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43rd PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development EVIDENCE NUMBER 005 Wednesday, November 4, 2020 Chair: Ms. Yasmin Ratansi 1 Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development Wednesday, November 4, 2020 ● (1600) dress COVID-19, but we must address the looming crises on the [English] horizon of climate change and rapid biodiversity loss. The work be‐ The Chair (Ms. Yasmin Ratansi (Don Valley East, Lib.)): I fore us, supported by the 2020-21 main estimates, is essential to en‐ call the meeting to order. suring that we can move forward effectively. The work we are dis‐ cussing today is focused on continuing to deliver real and effective Welcome to meeting number five of the House of Commons results. Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Develop‐ ment. The committee is meeting today to consider the main esti‐ The total funding in the 2020-21 main estimates for Environment mates. and Climate Change Canada is approximately $2 billion. This rep‐ resents an increase of about $154.8 million from the previous year's The committee meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pur‐ total estimates. suant to the House order of September 23, 2020. The proceedings will be made available via the House of Commons website. You all At home, the department is continuing to implement the pan- know the rules for muting your mikes, addressing everything to the Canadian framework on clean growth and climate change. With chair, etc. over 50 measures, this framework supports everything from electric vehicles and public transit to energy efficiency and renewable ener‐ I'd like to welcome our witnesses. We have with us today the gy. At the same time, the department is leading government-wide Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Minister Wilkinson. work to develop further plans to ensure that we exceed Canada's We also have Madam Martine Dubuc, associate deputy minister, 2030 emissions reduction goal and firmly put the country on a path Department of the Environment; Mr. David McGovern, president, to net zero by 2050. Impact Assessment Agency of Canada; and Ron Hallman, president and chief executive officer, Parks Canada Agency. In addition to the new measures, in the months ahead we will Minister, I believe you have five minutes for your opening re‐ seek advice from experts and consult with Canadians about path‐ marks. You will be with us for one hour, after which I guess your ways to achieve our goal of a net-zero economy by 2050 while department officials will be taking over and answering any addi‐ growing the economy and making life more affordable for all Cana‐ tional questions. dians. Minister, the floor is yours. ● (1605) Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson (Minister of Environment and Cli‐ [Translation] mate Change): Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the committee. These pathways must also integrate nature protection, which is vital to our efforts to combat climate change and a significant prior‐ I'm certainly happy to be here with you to discuss the 2020-21 ity. main estimates for Environment and Climate Change Canada, the Parks Canada Agency and the Impact Assessment Agency of Moving forward, we plan to conserve 25% of Canada's land and Canada. I am joined by my officials, as the chair has noted. They 25% of Canada's oceans by 2025, and we are working to reach 30% will certainly be happy to take questions from you in the second of each of those goals by 2030. hour. [English] I would like to start by recognizing that this meeting is taking The Chair: Minister, the translation is not working. The French place on the traditional territory of the Algonquin people, although is not being translated into English. I am situated on the traditional territory of the Tsleil-Waututh, Musqueam and Squamish first nations. When you're speaking French, do you have it on the French Without question, the world has changed significantly since we channel or the English channel? last met. COVID-19 has created tremendous loss and uncertainty Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson: I'm pretty sure it was on the French here in Canada and all around the world. What has become increas‐ channel. ingly clear is that we cannot choose between COVID-19 recovery efforts, climate action and the protection of nature. We must ad‐ Let me try it again. 2 ENVI-05 November 4, 2020 [Translation] We have the first round of questions for six minutes with Mr. Al‐ bas. Can you understand me now? [English] Mr. Dan Albas (Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, CPC): Thank you, Madam Chair. The Chair: Yes. Please proceed. Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson: Okay. Minister, thank you for the work you do and for your commit‐ [Translation] ment to our country. The department is also continuing its work to protect biodiversity Minister, your party committed to plant two billion trees over 10 and species at risk. years. We now know that none have been planted because there is no budget and there is no plan. Collaboration in that is also essential to all of our work, includ‐ ing our goal to achieve zero plastic waste by 2030, and ban harmful single-use plastics by 2021. As trees take time to grow, have any trees been ordered for plant‐ ing next year? [English] Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson: Thank you, Mr. Albas. Another vital service, Madam Chair, is the weather and environ‐ mental prediction services the department provides to Canadians 24 Certainly our government remains committed to planting two bil‐ hours a day. lion trees to help fight climate change and to address biodiversity The department is also developing further protections and taking issues. During this period, of course, there has not been a federal steps to clean up the Great Lakes, Lake Winnipeg, Lake Simcoe budget during the pandemic, but we have provided $30 million to and other large lakes. the forest sector so that businesses could safely continue tree-plant‐ ing operations during COVID-19. This has helped to ensure the In addition, we are working to modernize and strengthen the scheduled planting of 600 million trees. Canadian Environmental Protection Act. [Translation] We certainly remain committed to the two billion trees. I think you will see that we have been developing a plan, and you will see Let us now turn to Parks Canada. that coming forward in the near term. After a brief suspension of visitor services, Parks Canada adapt‐ Mr. Dan Albas: Well, Minister, the estimates process and the ed its delivery to respond to the challenge of COVID-19 and reopen supplementary estimates allow for you to be able to put something national parks, historic sites and marine conservation areas on into a budget. As you know, in our province of British Columbia, June 1. 314 million trees were planted this year. [English] This initiative was raised again as a commitment in your throne From June through September, over 13.4 million Canadians were speech. Why the discrepancy? Why are you simply saying that we able to safely spend their recreational and vacation time in Parks are going to get to it some day without actually having a plan? Canada-administered places. Through the fall and winter, opera‐ tions will continue in a number of parks and sites. ● (1610) The main estimates for 2020-21 for Parks Canada are $1.1 bil‐ Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson: With respect, I think the fact that it lion. Parks Canada will continue protecting nationally significant was in the throne speech is a measure of the commitment this gov‐ examples of natural and cultural heritage in Canada and sharing the ernment has to moving forward with that commitment. We certain‐ stories of these treasured places with Canadians. Parks Canada is ly do intend to move forward with it. also working on a proposal to develop a legislative framework that would strengthen the protection of cultural heritage in Canada. In the interim, during the COVID period, we worked very close‐ As for the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada, Madam Chair, ly with the forestry sector to ensure that they would be able to get its main estimates total $76.5 million. the tree-planting done that they had planned to do, but obviously that planting was impacted by COVID-19. That was 600 million Madam Chair, I hope this summary provides committee mem‐ trees, and we certainly intend to move forward with the two-billion- bers with the insight on the 2020-21 main estimates for Environ‐ tree commitment in the near term. ment and Climate Change Canada, Parks Canada and the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada that they are seeking. Mr. Dan Albas: Minister, this was in your election platform. This was a major announcement by your predecessor and by the I am very happy to engage in conversation and to try to respond Prime Minister himself. To say that it was simply raised again in to your questions. the throne speech and is a priority is not giving sufficient indication The Chair: Thank you, Minister. Thank you for keeping within that you're serious about it. Have you identified locations to facili‐ your time. tate the planting of two billion trees? November 4, 2020 ENVI-05 3 Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson: Yes. Certainly, the development of these issues, whether that's first nations in the south or Inuit in the the plan involves looking at locations. It obviously looks at the north. partnerships we would be utilizing in the context of developing those locations. It looks at urban and rural planting of trees. Those considerations all go into the development of a plan. As I say, we feel confident that we will be able to meet that num‐ ber.