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Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Fourth Session - Thirty-Sixth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Louise M. Dacquay Speaker Vol. XLVIII No. 65- 1:30 p.m., Tuesday, June 16, 1998 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Sixth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ASHTON, Steve Thompson N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky Wellington N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise, Hon. Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Roblin-Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary Concordia N.D.P. DOWNEY, James, Hon. Arthur-Virden P.C. DRIEDGER, Albert Steinbach P.C. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside P.C. EVANS, Clif Interlake N.D.P. EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East N.D.P. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo P.C. FINDLAY, Glen, Hon. Springfield P.C. FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley N.D.P. GAUDRY, Neil St. Boniface Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa P.C. HELWER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KOWALSKI, Gary The Maples Lib. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord St. Johns N.D.P. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McALPINE, Gerry Sturgeon Creek P.C. McCRAE, James, Hon. Brandon West P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane: Osborne N.D.P. MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia P.C. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn St. James N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East P.C. NEWMAN, David, Hon. Riel P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PITURA, Frank, Hon. Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet P.C. RADCLIFFE, Mike, Hon. River Heights P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack, Hon. Niakwa P.C. RENDER, Shirley St. Vital P.C. ROBINSON. Eric Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Gladstone P.C. SALE, Tim Crescentwood N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Broadway N.D.P. STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin N.D.P. SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye P.C. TOEWS, Vic, Hon. Rossmere P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. Fort Garry P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River N.D.P. 4507 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, June 16, 1998 The House met at 1:30 p.m. WHEREAS several lines were targeted immediately by CN for abandonment; and PRAYERS WHEREAS CN gave notice on May 6, 1998, that the Erwood Subdivision will be discontinued in 1998; and ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS WHEREAS the loss of this line would severely impact PRESENTING PETITIONS upon the communities of Bowsman and Birch River as well as surrounding communities; and Rail Line Abandonment WHEREAS in 1997, westerngrain farmers lost millions Ms. Rosano Wowchuk (Swan River): Madam of dollars due to backlogs and delays by the major Speaker, I beg to present the petition ofR. Stringer, T. railways; and Wasylciw, I. Wasylciw and others praying that the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba request that the WHEREAS as a result the federal government set up provincial governmentgo on record requesting CN and the Estey Grain Transportation Review which is CPR to not proceed with any discontinuance of lines scheduled to release a report later this year. until the report has been tabled, that being the Estey Grain Transportation Review report. WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba request that the READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS provincial government go on record requesting CN and CPR to not proceed with any discontinuance of lines Rail Line Abandonment until that report has been tabled. Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the * (1335) honourable member for Swan River (Ms. Wowchuk). It complies with the rules and practices of the House. Introduction of Guests Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? Madam Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would An Honourable Member: Dispense. like to draw the attention of all honourable members to the Speaker's Gallery where we have with us today a Madam Speaker: Dispense. delegation of Partnership of Parliaments State Parliamentarians from Germany under the leadership of WHEREAS affordable transportation is a critical Mr. Klaus Leroff. component of grain production; and On behalf of all honourable members, I welcome you WHEREAS under the Crow rate benefit, Manitoba was here this afternoon. the cheapest place on the Prairies from which to ship grain but became the most expensive following the I would like to also draw the attention of all abolishment of the Crow rate; and honourable members to the public gallery where we have with us today Dennis Whitebird, Vice-Chief of WHEREAS the Canada Transportation Act proclaimed AFM, and Pascal Bighetty, Chief of Mathias Colomb. on July 1, 1996, gave railways the ability to discontinue and scrap branch lines without public On behalf of all honourable members, I welcome you input; and this afternoon. 4508 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 16, 1998 Also seated in the public gallery we have fifteen development proposals still have to go to public Grade 5 students from Chapman School under the meetings that are still required and dictated under The direction of Mrs. Cathey Gornik. This school is located City of Winnipeg Act. in the constituency of the honourable First Minister (Mr. Filmon). So I am not too sure exactly where the member is coming from saying that there is the elimination of We also have sixteen Grade 4 students from Pinkham public meetings. There will still be public meetings. School under the direction of Mr. Richard Scrapneck. They possibly will be even enhanced because of the This school is located in the constituency of the city's ability to make these decisions on their own for honourable member for Burrows (Mr. Martindale). where and when they believe public participation should commence. I am not sure if this school is present; seven Grades 4 and 5 students fi:om Voyageur Elementary--oh, there Mr. Doer: Madam Speaker, you are removing the they are-under the direction of Mrs. Rosalind Dick. guaranteed right of citizens to participate in community This school is located in the constituency of the committees. If the minister does not understand that he honourable Minister of Education and Training (Mrs. is giving more power to the City Hall politicians and Mcintosh). less power to the citizens of Winnipeg-it is a very simple change in power, which we think is contrary to On behalf of all members, I welcome you this the democratic rights of people. afternoon. In fact, Cam Neirinck, a worker at Hydro dealing ORAL QUESTION PERIOD with the hydro underground wires at Mcivor and Bonner, said that this Bill 36 is antidemocratic, and we The City of Winnipeg Amendment Act lose the guaranteed rights of citizen participation in Community Committees community committees. Mr. Gary Doer (]Leader of the Opposition): Madam On behalf of many other average citizens who Speaker, many citizens, average citizens, were opposed appeared last night before the committee-there were to the removal of a guaranteed right of citizen groups for the bill, groups against the bill, but average participation in community committees at hearings that citizens were against the removal of their guaranteed were held yesterday and last evening. I would like to right-will the Acting Premier please amend this law ask the government again: why is it eliminating the and guarantee the rights of citizen participation in guaranteed right of citizen participation in community community committees? committees, and why will we leave up to the whim of City Council, in the future, important decisions about Mr. Reimer: Madam Speaker, the member for the quality oftheiJr community, such as the location of Concordia is of the opinion that this government here adult video stores? In the future, why can we not should be the ones that dictate how and where and what maintain that as a citizen right under law here in the City of Winnipeg should be doing in their type of Manitoba in this Legislature? addressing of public participation and how public meetings should be conducted. They are of the opinion Hon. Jack Reimer (Minister of Urban Affairs): that it should beprescriptive, narrow, focused on what Madam Speaker, in my answers to questions yesterday, they believe should be covered as to public I pointed out to the� member for Concordia that the City participation. of Winnipeg has been empowered with more decision­ making capabilities as to how they will be able to We are saying we are letting the City of Winnipeg, conduct public meetings and presentations that they the councillors, the mayor, make the decision as to how feel are in order to accommodate some of the concerns and where they feel they should be having public that the citizens bring forth. Zoning applications, consultation and that the duly elected people are the subdivision applications, major variances, land people who should make this type of decision. June 16, 1998 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 4509 I should point out that public hearings would still Mr. Downey: Madam Speaker, I will take the details have to be made for Plan Winnipeg, the zoning variance ofthe question as notice, but one thing I can confirm is by-laws, variance conditional use, subdivision that this minister and this government has put $20 applications, secondary plans and local improvement million more into the foster carehome program to make districts. Public participation is guaranteed in The City sure the children are looked after, far more than the of Winnipeg Act under almost every circumstance that previous administration.
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