Political Studies | Summer Courses 2019 Syllabus
Each year, the Hertog Foundation brings together top college students to the nation’s capital to explore the theory and practice of politics in an intensive seminar setting with outstanding faculty. This summer’s offerings provide students the flexibility to create their ideal summer experience – by applying for a seven-week summer fellowship or choosing among one- to two-week seminars to create their own individualized course of study.
• The Political Studies Program is designed to reflect the broad curriculum of the Hertog Foundation. Political Studies Fellows take courses in a wide variety of subjects, from political philosophy to contemporary public affairs, from economics to foreign policy. Fellows spend the opening week together, and then participate in their choice of Summer Courses for the remaining six weeks.
• Students seeking a more specialized experience can apply directly to the Summer Courses within the Political Studies Program that best fit their interests and knowledge level. This option is also ideal for students who have other internships, jobs, or commitments during the summer.
All Summer Fellows have the opportunity to hear from leaders in American government and politics. Past guest lecturers include David Brooks (Aspen Institute), Senator Tom Cotton, Leon Kass (AEI), Harvey Mansfield (Harvard University), Walter Russell Mead (Hudson Institute), and Paul Wolfowitz (AEI), among others.
See last year’s schedule below to see what a typical day at a Hertog Summer Fellowship looks like.
Apply now to become one of our future fellows.
(June 10-14) Nuclear Strategy & World Order Edelman
Week 1 (June 17-21) PSP Opening Week — Virtue & Power Storeys
Weeks 2-3 (June 24-July 5)
Weeks 2 & 3 (Jun 24-Jul 5): Weeks 2 & 3 (Jun 24-Jul 5): Weeks 2 & 3 (Jun 24-Jul 5): Foundations: Ancients Religion & Politics Traditions of Freedom Aristotle — Bartlett The Bible — Cooper Smith – Hanley
Religion & Politics Foundations: Moderns Traditions of Freedom Religion & Liberal Democracy — Machiavelli — Sullivan Burke – Weiner Garsten
Weeks 4-5 (July 8-July 19)
Weeks 4 & 5 (Jul 8-Jul 19): Weeks 4 & 5 (Jul 8-Jul 19): Weeks 4 & 5 (Jul 8-Jul 19): Foundations: Statesmanship Nationalism & Liberal Democracy American Political Thought Plutarch — Liebert Liberal Democracy — Schaub APT – Staloff
Foundations: War Nationalism & Liberal Democracy Thucydides — Grygiel Nationalism — Reinsch American Political Thought Tocqueville – Ceaser
Weeks 6-7 (July 22-August 2)
Week 6 (Jul 22-26): Week 6 (Jul 22-26): The Courts, Chinese Grand Conservatives, & Strategy Week 6 & 7 Week 6 & 7 The Constitution Blumenthal (Jul 22-Aug 2): (Jul 22-Aug 2): White
American Varieties of
War Studies Democratic American Program Capitalism Conservatism Levin Continetti Week 7 Week 7 (Jul 29-Aug 2): (Jul 29-Aug 2): Russia Partisanship in Serchuk American Politics DiSalvo
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June 9–15, 2019 NUCLEAR STRATEGY
Sunday, June 9 Monday, June 10 Tuesday, June 11 Wednesday, June 12 Thursday, June 13 Friday, June 14 Saturday, June 15
Welcome Breakfast Breakfast Breakfast Breakfast Breakfast
8:30 AM – 9 AM 8:30 AM – 9: AM 8:30 AM – 9 AM 8:30 AM – 9 AM 8:30 AM – 9 AM
Introduction Session 2 Session 3 Session 4 Crisis Simulation The First Nuclear Nonproliferation Multipolar Disruptive Age & Grand Strategy Nuclear Competition Technologies Evan Montgomery Amb. Edelman Amb. Edelman Amb. Edelman Amb. Edelman
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Group Lunch Group Lunch Group Lunch Group Lunch Group Lunch & Summer Fellows Closing Conversation Summer Fellows Arrive Depart
Check-In 12 PM – 1 PM 12 PM – 1 PM 12 PM – 1 PM 12 PM – 1 PM 12 PM – 3 PM Check out by starts at 3PM 11 AM Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Guest Speaker on American on the Iran Guest Speaker on Deterrence Nuclear Strategy Nuclear Deal on Nuclear Diplomacy
Hal Brands Matthew Kroenig Ray Takeyh Amb. Bob Joseph
1 PM – 3 PM 1 PM – 3 PM 1 PM – 3 PM 1 PM – 3 PM Free Time Crisis Simulation Prep & Pizza Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study Evan Montgomery
4 PM – 6 PM
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WEEK 1: June 16–June 22, 2019 VIRTUE & POWER
Sunday, June 16 Monday, June 17 Tuesday, June 18 Wednesday, June 19 Thursday, June 20 Friday, June 21 Saturday, June 22
Breakfast
7:30 AM – 8 AM
Session 1 Session 2 Session 3 Session 5 Session 4
Storeys Storeys Storeys Storeys Storeys
8 AM – 11 AM
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Guest Speaker PSP Fellows on U.S. Politics Arrive Sen. Tom Cotton Optional
Group Lunch & Open Reading & Open Reading & Field Trip
Travel Lunch Break Lunch Break 12 PM – 1 PM 12:30 PM 12 PM – 2 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Tour of American Art Museum Guest Speaker
on Bridging our National Divide Office Hours Office Hours & Private Study Arthur Brooks & Private Study Free Time & Private Study 2 PM – 4 PM Office Hours & Private Study AEI Dinner Reception & Welcome on Policy & Poverty Discussion Dinner with Free Time Robert Doar | Harvey Mansfield Hertog DC & Private Study Richard Reeves |
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WEEK 2: June 23–29, 2018 POL PHIL
Sunday, June 23 Monday, June 24 Tuesday, June 25 Wednesday, June 26 Thursday, June 27 Friday, June 28 Saturday, June 29
Orientation Aristotle | Bartlett Aristotle | Bartlett Aristotle | Bartlett Aristotle | Bartlett Breakfast Bible | Cooper Bible | Cooper Bible | Cooper Bible | Cooper Smith | Hanley Smith | Hanley Smith | Hanley Smith | Hanley 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM
Aristotle | Bartlett Bible | Cooper Smith | Hanley
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Group Lunch & Open Reading & Open Reading & Open Reading & Class Lunch & Guest Speakers Lunch Break Lunch Break Lunch Break Optional Travel to Hertog on U.S. Foreign Policy Summer Fellows Field Trip
Arrive Lewis Libby & 10:30 AM Paul Wolfowitz Check-In 12 PM – 1:00 PM 12 PM – 2 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Tour of the starts at 3PM 12 PM – 2 PM National Gallery of Art 12:30 PM – 2:30 PM
Guest Lecture Group Travel & Guest Lecture Tutorials 1 & 2: on the State of Holocaust on the Ten Leo Strauss | Amer Lit Higher Education Museum Commandments Tour Alan Levine | Pano Kanelos Leon Kass Zena Hitz
2 PM – 4 PM 1:00 PM – 4 PM 2 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM Office Hours
& Private Study Dinner & Reception Guest Speaker Faculty/Student Mixer
Free Time on Holocaust Memory Office Hours
& Private Study & Private Study Walter Reich
5 PM – 8 PM 4 PM – 6 PM
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WEEK 3: June 30–July 6, 2019 POL PHIL
Sunday, June 30 Monday, July 1 Tuesday, July 2 Wednesday, July 3 Thursday, July 4 Friday, July 5 Saturday, July 6
Machiavelli | Sullivan Machiavelli | Sullivan Machiavelli | Sullivan Machiavelli | Sullivan Machiavelli | Sullivan Rel & Dem | Garsten Rel & Dem | Garsten Rel & Dem | Garsten Rel & Dem | Garsten Rel & Dem | Garsten Burke | Weiner Burke | Weiner Burke | Weiner Burke | Weiner Burke | Weiner
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Grad School Group Lunch Class Lunch & Open Reading & Lunch (Optional) & Closing Lecture Travel Lunch Break on Defending Straussian Halper | Sullivan Liberal Democracy Summer Fellows 12 PM – 1:15 PM Picnic Depart 12 PM – 2 PM 12:30 – 2 PM AU campus Peter Berkowitz Check out by 11 AM Tutorial 3: Museum of the (Optional) Hoover Institution Gettysburg Address Bible Tour (1399 New York Ave NW, Office Hours Suite 500) 12:30 PM – 3 PM & Private Study Leon Kass
2 – 4 PM 2 PM – 4 PM 12:30 PM – 2:30 PM
Moynihan Screening & Group Dinner Free Time with Chester Finn Office Hours & Free Time & Happy 4th! & Private Study Private Study Private Study
5 PM – 8 PM
55 students in residence
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WEEK 4: July 7–13, 2014 POLITICS
Sunday, July 7 Monday, July 8 Tuesday, July 9 Wednesday, July 10 Thursday, July 11 Friday, July 12 Saturday, July 13
Orientation APT | Staloff APT | Staloff APT | Staloff APT | Staloff Breakfast Plutarch | Liebert Plutarch | Liebert Plutarch | Liebert Plutarch | Liebert Democracy | Schaub Democracy | Schaub Democracy | Schaub Democracy | Schaub 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM APT | Staloff Plutarch | Liebert Democracy | Schaub
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Group Lunch Guest Speaker Class Lunch Open Reading & & Guest Speakers Open Reading & on Speechwriting & Lunch Break on U.S. Foreign Policy Lunch Break Careers in DC
Summer Fellows Fred & Kim Kagan Noam Neusner Optional Arrive Field Trip 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12:30 PM – 2 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12:30 PM – 2 PM
Check-In Tour of the starts at 3PM Folger Library Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Tutorial 4: on National Civility & Public on Family & Politics Conservatism Discourse David Azerrad Christopher DeMuth Mary Elizabeth Halper Heritage Foundation (214 Massachusetts Ave NE) 2 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM Office Hours Office Hours & 2 PM – 4 PM & Private Study Private Study Dinner & Evening Lecture on American Pop Free Time Culture Free Time & & Private Study Private Study Paul A. Cantor
5 PM – 7 PM
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WEEK 5: July 14–20, 2019 POLITICS
Sunday, July 14 Monday, July 15 Tuesday, July 16 Wednesday, July 17 Thursday, July 18 Friday, July 19 Saturday, July 20
Tocqueville | Ceaser Tocqueville | Ceaser Tocqueville | Ceaser Tocqueville | Ceaser Tocqueville | Ceaser Thucydides | Grygiel Thucydides | Grygiel Thucydides | Grygiel Thucydides | Grygiel Thucydides | Grygiel Nationalism | Reinsch Nationalism | Reinsch Nationalism | Reinsch Nationalism | Reinsch Nationalism | Reinsch
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Group Lunch Group Lunch & Closing Lecture Open Reading & Open Reading & & Guest Lecture on Nationalism & Class Lunch Lunch Break Lunch Break on the Statesmanship Jacksonian Democracy of Abraham Lincoln
Walter Russell Mead Allen Guelzo 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 2 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Summer Fellows 12:30 PM – 2 PM 12:30 PM – 2:30 PM Depart
Guest Speaker Check out by Tutorial 5: on Repairing Our 11 AM Churchill / Social Fabric James Q. Wilson Free Time David Brooks Free Time & Private Study Daniel Burns / & Private Study Steve Teles Aspen Institute (2300 N St NW, Ste 700)
2 PM – 4 PM Free Time & 2 PM – 4 PM Private Study Economic Nationalism: Alumni Career Talk A Debate with Richard & Reception Reinsch & Oren Cass Free Time & Free Time & Eden | Johnson | Seitz Ritz-Carlton DC Private Study Private Study (1150 22nd St NW)
7:30 PM – 9:30 PM 5 PM – 8 PM
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WEEK 6: July 21–27, 2019 AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC CAPITALISM
Sunday, July 21 Monday, July 22 Tuesday, July 23 Wednesday, July 24 Thursday, July 25 Friday, July 26 Saturday, July 27
Orientation Aristotle & Locke Adam Smith The Progressives & Responses to the Breakfast the Welfare State Welfare State
7:30 AM – 8:30 AM Levin Levin Levin Levin
Introduction
Levin
9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM Discussion & Open Reading & Open Reading & Open Reading & Opening Lunch Lunch Break Lunch Break Lunch Break Guest Speaker & Lunch Discussion on the Revolutions of Summer Fellows the ’60s & Arrive 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Conservatism
Check-In starts at 3PM Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Christopher on Measurement on Inequality & the on the Federal on the Coming Caldwell & Policy Middle Class Budget Demographic Crisis
Scott Winship Scott Winship James Capretta Jonathan V. Last 12:15 PM – 2 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Group Dinner & Film Screening Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Arguing the World Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study
5 PM – 8 PM
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WEEK 7: July 28–August 3, 2019 AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC CAPITALISM
Sunday, July 28 Monday, July 29 Tuesday, July 30 Wednesday, July 31 Thursday, August 1 Friday, August 2 Saturday, August 3
Trade & the Higher Education & Guest Speaker on Health Care & Tax Policy National Question Liberal Education Choice in Education Entitlements
Levin Levin Levin Levin Rick Hess
9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM 9:30 AM – 12 PM
Open Reading & Open Reading & Open Reading & Group Lunch & Lunch Break Lunch Break Lunch Break Concluding Guest Speakers Discussion on the Future of 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM & Group Lunch Conservatism All Fellows
Depart Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Guest Speaker
on the Free Market & on Coping with on K-12 Education Ross Douthat & Check out by the Labor Market Climate Change Levin Reihan Salam 11 AM
Oren Cass Oren Cass Rick Hess
12 PM – 2 PM 12:15 PM – 2 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Closing Dinner Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study
6 PM – 8 PM
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WEEK 6: July 21–27, 2019 CONSERVATISM
Sunday, July 21 Monday, July 22 Tuesday, July 23 Wednesday, July 24 Thursday, July 25 Friday, July 26 Saturday, July 27
Orientation Breakfast Critics of Modernity Anti-Communism I Guest Speaker National Review on Anti-Communism 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM Classical Continetti Continetti Continetti Liberalism Lee Edwards
Continetti 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9:30 PM – 11 AM 9 AM – 12 PM
Open Reading & Open Reading & Lunch Break Lunch Break Guest Speaker & Guest Speaker & Lunch Discussion Summer Fellows Lunch Discussion on Reagan & Arrive Open Reading & on Libertarianism Conservatism 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Break Today Check-In
starts at 3PM Christopher
Megan McArdle Guest Speaker Caldwell 12 PM – 5 PM on Kirk & Anti-Communism II
Traditionalism
12:15 PM – 2 PM Daniel McCarthy Continetti 12:15 PM – 2 PM
1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Group Dinner & Film Screening Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study Arguing the World Private Study
5 PM – 8 PM
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WEEK 7: July 28–August 3, 2019 CONSERVATISM
Sunday, July 28 Monday, July 29 Tuesday, July 30 Wednesday, July 31 Thursday, August 1 Friday, August 2 Saturday, August 3
Neoconservatism I Neoconservatism II The Religious Right The Unipolar Moment Conservatism Today
Continetti Continetti Continetti Continetti Continetti
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Open Reading & Open Reading & Lunch Break Lunch Break
Group Lunch & 12 PM – 1:15 PM Closing Discussion & 12 PM – 1:15 PM All Fellows Guest Speakers Group Lunch on the Future of Depart Conservatism
Continetti Check out by Turbulence: Guest Speaker 11 AM Conservatism on Conservatism
in the 1970s & the GOP Today Ross Douthat &
Reihan Salam 12:15 PM – 2 PM Continetti Fred Barnes Free Time &
Private Study
1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 12:15 PM – 2 PM
Closing Dinner Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study 6 PM – 8 PM
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WEEK 6: July 21–27, 2019 SUPREME COURT
Sunday, July 21 Monday, July 22 Tuesday, July 23 Wednesday, July 24 Thursday, July 25 Friday, July 26 Saturday, July 27 Orientation Breakfast
Republican 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM Judicial Restraint Originalism Judicial Engagement Remedies
Foundational White White White Debates White
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM White 9 AM – 12 PM
9 AM – 12 PM
Opening Group Lunch: Open Reading & Open Reading & Lunch Careers in Law Lunch Break Lunch Break Group Lunch & Summer Fellows Guest Speaker White White Summer Fellows Arrive on First Principles Depart 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM Check-In Check out by starts at 3PM Guest Speaker Guest Speaker 11 AM Hon. Neomi Rao on Judicial Restraint & Guest Speaker on Judicial Guest Speaker Judicial Engagement on Originalism Engagement on Law & Tradition
Randy Barnett Matthew Spalding Ilya Shapiro Marc DeGirolami 12 PM – 1:30 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study
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WEEK 6: July 21–27, 2019 CHINA
Sunday, July 21 Monday, July 22 Tuesday, July 23 Wednesday, July 24 Thursday, July 25 Friday, July 26 Saturday, July 27 Orientation Breakfast Qing Dynasty Mao | Deng: The End of Reform The CCP’s 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM Reform & Opening & China’s Decline Strategic Approach Xi Jinping & the Chinese Dream Blumenthal Blumenthal Blumenthal Blumenthal Blumenthal
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Opening Lunch & Guest Speaker on Lunch Break Lunch Break Summer Fellows Lunch Break Closing Lunch Summer Fellows the Chinese Military Arrive on US-China Depart
Strategic 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 1:30 PM Check-In 12 PM – 1:30 PM Competition Check out by
starts at 3PM 11 AM
Dean Cheng Unification Guest Speaker Guest Speaker
& Mao on the Chinese on Human Rights
Economy in China
Blumenthal Derek Scissors Sarah Cook 12 PM – 2 PM 12 PM – 2 PM
1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time &
Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study
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WEEK 7: July 28–August 3, 2019 PARTISANSHIP
Sunday, July 28 Monday, July 29 Tuesday, July 30 Wednesday, July 31 Thursday, August 1 Friday, August 2 Saturday, August 3 Orientation Breakfast
Polarization & Polarization & Party Reform Fixing Our Parties 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM Government The Public
American Parties DiSalvo DiSalvo DiSalvo DiSalvo
DiSalvo
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
Open Reading & Open Reading & Open Reading & Closing Lunch Opening Lunch & Lunch Break Lunch Break Lunch Break Guest Speaker & Guest Speaker on Millennials/Gen Z Summer Fellows on the Parties & Republican Arrive 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM 12 PM – 1:15 PM All Fellows Government Depart Kristen Soltis Check-In Anderson starts at 3PM Check out by
11 AM Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Guest Speaker Jay Cost on Party Reform on Congress & on The Parties & 12:15 PM – 2 PM & Political Realism Partisanship Campaign Finance
12:15 PM – 2 PM Jonathan Rauch James Wallner Raymond La Raja Free Time
1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM 1:30 PM – 3 PM
Closing Dinner Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Free Time & Private Study Private Study Private Study Private Study 6 PM – 8 PM 16 | 2019 SYLLABUS
WEEK 7: July 28–August 3, 2019 RUSSIA
Sunday, July 28 Monday, July 29 Tuesday, July 30 Wednesday, July 31 Thursday, August 1 Friday, August 2 Saturday, August 3
Orientation Group Breakfast & Breakfast Bush II Obama, Obama, Guest Speaker Summer Fellows Administration Part 1 Part 2 Arrive 7:30 AM – 8:30 AM
8 AM – 9 AM Check-In The Clinton Serchuk Serchuk Serchuk starts at 3PM Trump Administration
Serchuk Serchuk 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM
9 AM – 12 PM 9 AM – 12 PM Group Lunch Group Lunch Group Lunch Group Lunch & Closing Lunch & Discussion & Discussion & Discussion Guest Speaker & Discussion Opening Lunch All Fellows
Depart The End of the Cold War 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 1:30 PM 12 PM – 2 PM Check out by 11 AM Bush I Administration The Clinton Bush II Obama, Obama, Administration Administration Part 1 Part 2
Serchuk Serchuk Serchuk Serchuk Serchuk
12:30 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM 1:30 PM – 4 PM
Wargame Simulation Group Dinner Closing Dinner
Free Time & Free Time & Free Time &
Private Study Private Study Private Study
6 PM – 8 PM 6 PM – 8 PM 5 PM – 8 PM