Tuesday, April 25, 1972 Vaisakha 5, 1894 (Saka) LOK SABHA DEBATES

(Fifth Series)

Vol. XIV

(April 2 5 to Miy 9 , 1972 /Vaittkba 5 to 19,1894 (Safes)

Fotrth Settios, 1972 /1893-94 (Saks)

(Vol. XIVcontains Nos. 31— 40)

LOK SABHA SECBKTA1 IAT NEW CONTENTS

I Fifth Series, Vol. XIV, 4th Session, 1^72 ]

N o. 3 1 - T u 2iday, Aptil 25. 1^72 Vaisakha 5, 1894 iSaka)

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Obituary Reference 1 3 Oral Answers to Questions— "‘Starred Questions Nos. 541, 543, 544, 546 to 548, 552, 553, 555, 556 and 560 3— 27 Written Answers to Questions — Starred Questions Nos. 542, 545. 549 to 551, 554 and 557 to 559 27- 39 I Instarred Questions Nos. 3778 to 3790, 3792 to ^918 and 3920 to 3968 37—184 Correcting Statement to USQ No. 936 dated 21.3 1972 184 Matter Under Rule 377— Reported token strike by LIC employees 184— 94 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance— Reported trafficking in Adivasi girls in Orissa 194-214 Release of Member— (Shri Bhogendra Jha) 214 Public Accounts Committee— Forty-third and 1 orty-fifth Reports 2 1 4 - 15 Committee on Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes- Seventh Report 215 Demands for Grants, 1972-73— Ministry of txternal Affairs 215—316 Shri Dasaratha Deb 216 - 20 Shri K . P. Unmkrishnan 220 - 26 Shri H. N. Mukerjee 228 - 35 Shri N. Sreekantan Nair 236— 38 Shri Shashi Phusban 238— 44 Shri K. Manoharan 244— 50 Shri Surendra Pal Singh 2 5 0 - 60 Shri Surendra Mohanty 260— 64 Shri Dinesh Singh 264— 70 Shri R. K. Sinba 271 76 Shri C. C. Desai 276— 82 Shri B, R. Bhagat 282— 87 Shri Samar Guha 2 8 7 - 92 Dr. H. P. Sharma 292— 96 Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee 2 9 6 -3 0 6 i Shri B. K. Daschowdhury 3 0 6 - 12 Shri Tulsidas Dasappa 312— 16 Shri Sant Bux Singh 316 The sign-f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was, actually asked on the floor of th# House by that Member. LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA public life i'tj his home district of Beilary where }he was a member ol the district boardjand also a member of the District Famine Committee and District Educational Tuesday, April 25, 1^2^01X0^110

MR. SPfcAKLR : lion. Members, l Scientific research particularly in the have to inform the House of the sad demise field of agriculture was another subjcct in of Shri H. Sitarama Reddy who passed which he took active interest. He was a away at Salim on the 21st April, 1972 at member of the Indian Central Cotton the age of 72 Committee and the Indian Council of Agticultuial Research. He also served as a Shri H. Sitarama Reddv was a Member member of the governing body of the CSIR. of the Constituent Assembly during the years 1946-48 and of the First Lok Sabha Our sincere condolences and sympathies during the years 1952-53 representing may please be conveyed to the members of Kurnool constituency of the then State of the bereaved family. Madras. Earlier, he was a Member of the Madias Legislative Assembly. He was also SHRl DASARATHA DEB (Tripura a Minister in the Madras Government during East) : We share in the feelings of sorrow 1947-52. expressed by the Prime Minister on the sad demise of Shri H. Sitarama Reddy, and I We deeply niourn the loss of this distin­ would request you to communicate our guished friend and 1 am sure the House condolences to the members of the bereaved will join me in conveying our condolences family. to the bereaved family.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): On THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER my behalf and on behalf of my party. I OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF associate myself with the sentiments expre­ ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME ssed by the hon. Leader of the House, the AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFOR­ Prime Minister, and 1 request you to convey MATION AND BROADCASTING (SHKI- our heartfelt condolences to the family MAT1 INDIRA GANDHI) : Mr. Speaker, members of late Shri H. Sitarama Reddy. Sir, we are deeply grieved to hcai of the demise of shri Sitarama Reddy, and 1 fully associate myself with the sentiments that «To sRFft smrcm *rr£s : you have expressed. a r e r a a m t t sfr

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3T*W ITjftW I 5T?f 3TT 3TTrTT t THE DEPUTY MIN1STFR IN I HI MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MOHD 3ffe ^ 1 1 SHAF1 QURESHI) (a) and (b) Yes, Sir It has been decided to carry out a rapid Depletion of Ground Water Re*«mree« engineering and traffic survey for extension in Ghittoor District Andhra Pradeah of the broad gauge line liom Indore to Mhow The Survey Report is expectcd to be *541 SHRI P NARASIMHA REDDY available by about December, 1972 Will the Munster of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state «ft m m $ (a) whether Government are aware of *nwfw sft % ^r?mT sn§?TT g fc the rapidly depleting ground water resources fW t£

(b) if so, the steps contemplated for Import of Cars for nse of conservation and re-charging of the resour­ S. T C. O fficials ces; *544. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be (c) whether Government propose to pleased to state : prepare and exccute a Masfer-Plan for the purpose with the assistance of the World (a) whether a number of foreign cars Bank and the United Nations; and have been imported for the use of Directors and other officials of the State Trading (d) if so, the broad outlines of the Corporation; and proposal ? (b) if so. the number of such cars THF DF.PUTY MINIS'! 12R IN THE maintained by the Corporation ? MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B N. KUREEL) : (a) and THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN (b). No, Sir. TRADF. (SHRI L. N. MlSHRA) : (a) No, Sir (c) and (d), No such proposal is undei the consideiation of the Government of (b) Does not ausc. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am happy SHRI P. NARASIMHA RFDDY : The to know that at present they are not import­ ing any car for the use of the directors and answer to part (a) is No’. There appears to other officials of the STC. But I would like be a conti adiction. If there is no depletion of ground water icsourccs in the Chittoor to know from the hon. Minister how many district, why is it that the Ground Water imported cars they have at present with the Directorate has stopped permitting sinking STC. of new wells in the district ? SHRI L. N. MISHRA : There are a number of cars with the STC. These cars are THE MINISTFR OF IRRIGATION those which aie surrendered by the embassy AND POWFR (DR. K. L. RAO) : As staff who go on transfer. Fust, these cars regards sinking of wells, it has not been are sold in auction and the highest bidder included by the State Government in any of gets them provided the price is reasonable. the plans. Being a hard rock area, they did not do so. But now investigation is being extended to include hard rock areas also. The Secondly, there are some categories of Ministry of Agriculture is taking it up with people or places like the Rashtrapati Bhavan, the Andhra Pradesh Government to see if Raj Bhavans, Cabinet Ministers and Speakers Chittoor can also be included in this. who arc given these cars at the standard price —cm f. value including customs, etc.

SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY : I am So far as the use of the staff cars by the thankful to the Minister for saying that he is STC is concerned, there are three people having Chittoor included in the plan. Will who can use them : the Chairman and the a study team or the Minister himself visit two directors, and that too on payment of the district to study the alarming situation certain amounts of money per month. But I now prevailing there in this respect ? cannot give the exact number of cars that the STC have for sale at the moment. DR. K. L. RAO : It is an important observation that hon. Member has made. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : My question When wells are drying up, we will take all related to the cars used by the Chairman, necessary steps to fiind out the facts and the managing director and other officials of take such action as will prevent further the STC, and whether the Minister is allow­ deterioration. • ing to import the cars, They are ustaf it 7 Oral Answtitf APRIL 25, 1972 Oral Answers 8

despite our objection; let them do it. But male a fabulous lot of money and also there the question is, how many imported cars, is underhand dealing going on ? Regarding purchased through the STC, are being used the auction of cars that are imported, many by the STC officials. people deposit money but they do not get the imported cars in auction. But in the SHRl L. N. MISHRA : As I said, only underhand dealings they will get all the three cars; for two diiectors and one Chair­ imported cars. May I know whether the man, and that too, on payment basis. The Ministry would examine this position and staff cars are used by the two directors and find out whether such erring officers are one Chairman, and that too, it is not for making an attempt to sell the cars outside long. Care is taken to see that the value of and make a fabulous lot of money and, if ir the cars does not depreciate and the car is is a fact, what action are the Government going to take ? changed.

SHRl S. M. BANERJEE rose— SHRI L. N. MISHRA : No one can import cars, not even the President, diiectly, so Jong as cars are available with the STC. MR. SPEAKER : Tt is all right; you There is no question o f the STC officers have already completed your quota. Shri importing any cars. These cars belong to Maurya. the embassy staff, and when they go on transfer, they cannot sell them publicly. They sft wto tfto : 3n^ sft t f t srr gfasjT | ^rr sonable pioftf in it. Tf there is no reasonable ^ tt tfr

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THE DLPU1Y MINISTER IN IH L (b) whether the diesehsation of tiains MIN1SIRY Or R\II WAYS (SHRI has necessitated the. extension of platfoims on all the Stations where diesel tiams stop M MID SHAH QURFSHIj (a) A sum of Rs 1,79,880 was outstanding against M/s due to the ineieased length of the trains and Suram Feitih/ei and Chemicals served by Dadh devi siding neai k o la Station on (c) if so the proposal under considera­ 11 4 72 tion of Government for the extension of platforms and sheds over them 0 No amount is outstanding against M,s J K Synthetics THF DCPUTY MINISTFR IN THfc MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MOHD (b) The amount referred to consist!* of SHAF1 QURESHI) (a) to (c) A statement demurrage charges ind detention charges is laid on the Table of the Houi»e Both these elaims ha\c been disputed b> the firm Statement

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The Works of providing sheds ovei plat­ a r> «rr ^ ? rr? ^ r t forms are done independent of the dieseli- vfY ?rw--tfT«r ar^T ferr sation piogrammc. The proposals for sheds for cover ovet the platforms are generally sn^rnT i approved every year at the time of the annua] works programme m consultation f with the Railway Users’ Amenities Com­ q?To X ^ o VT3ff t ^RTSTfTT { mittees and in accordance with availability of funds. '■sr^Tf’T iV spr 3T^?r 5 ^ t I® r^tfnr?T 3J^T ^TfT STfST 3Tt m ^ T ^ T , tit g i ^ t t zrf w I f% | fr fsrcRt w ir f t qr s*r ^ft^fr % irm m aft* m*ft % ^ *rrf?q i art ©>£ | tfV '^rfi «w qfc^F sipfi f w ^ w it w it § m ’T^n t vV aftr arrq^t sftq-R witft ft f nr^V h ir q-g-arr r rfT tt ft ^rr^r cT* f ? f t 'Tf5# t S*rfarr ^r^rTt f, U> wr«^rr«r ^'t s/rc T3r?r ftf|?TT3r> sft f t ’TTJTR H 3TffT m -*fr n f « p r w\ TiT*r*ft wt ?tfV •* rerfT % I ^ ^cT^r ft fifWPT *ft ? i ^ ?f,

<%£qiT*ft 3PT, m ¥T 35TT5f sr?T SHRl k S CHAVDA May 1 know f t£ 7 whether the extension of platforms on Delhi- Ahmedabad route has been completed and if so, when is the Government going to mtio- «ft 5^w r? 5HBt TFT duce dieselised tiams between Ahmedabad sfr^rrR* i sra'ft f r a e r *fr *rrfe*rf and Delhi ,f 55TcfT I , ?Tft t t^qjTTTT apt r^«T *rr*T 7S 3TTcfV t ^ srT^rnr tfr fT??r 3Twrar *t^ hw Ir % *TT5r 4 0 *%3T'*T 8rV ?rr«r TrFr?ftq- ^ w ?rf 5rr#^ i ?ft ar? % snrf-^f 3r*T5r **nTR Tt «TT'T *R ’ gfcfr cercTfiTstf anrftif i SHRI MOHD SHAri QURl-SHI . The work has been taken up I may not be able «ft srfsr t 3TFRrr ?tt g to give the exact date but it will be com­ pleted veiy soon w fr $ ^TT'T'TT ^T^cTT | f r WT ^ f t W ?£sT?ft

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7?TTt 5T*T? tftSFT TO9T s ttto I fan- itsra fair ^rr § ?rr«T ft tt ^ T f^ fT T l 3TT^5T TT tft fM*TC f^T ^T Relieving of Permanent Way Inspectors of Stores Responsi­ -r^j | i ?«r ?t^e n 'F bilities f3n%TTt sr^r sf»t ft t o t <*ftr ^ 3 ^ amr Tr^r ^ ^ <*nr ^ti f^w^r *548 SIIR1 HUKAM CHAND KACH- WAI Will the Minister ol RAILWAYS ?f^t 3TT r f j £ | be pleased to state sft puq W5* 3TT ^ T ^ t (a) wheihei Permanent Way Inspectors inspectors ^ ^ rtr to*t Tf fsn^rrr However, measures are being taken to simplify the accountal procedures and limit the size 3?TT 3Jpfi «ft eft e*fFf *T 73^ |q of the stores holdings W ^ f t s r f * ST«rf •grr TTtZt % ffT ^fT 5T Tl sfl ? g w «r*f h'stt *i$rar ?r 3Tt T^T f«F S £ R t Tl % T R TT «ft mt f^sft • frq^ f*T TT 5WW TT ? ?rt % t"i w x n afr ffrof’-?! | t *rfr STTTO ^TTprT | fa % ST^TcJT urafl1 % srm 7? ^rrr | fa*m far €»ar f a R T T t | f * * 5Tt *T^TT*r * STcT m ?ft 5rr^»fr i ^ 3*rr% f=rrfaT ^ w ft I faes the permanent wa> inspectois and the m «p*it ’ signal inspectors should be relieved oi their stores charges and should be held SW& f : qrf*r tft responsible only for the imprest issued to and required by them foi their day to fa**nrnft % *pt «fr are Tr day works ” frnSRTCt »FT *PT*T «FT5p fsn% t o | SrfaR sfansnsr far*3p?ret ssttf % $*fr faqRTfrsr t t w m ^ raar fr ^ % ^erwflr x^*fr i %fa* *$\ m far qrn ^ t r T t srifa gsrfc ^ jt| ctrt to^pt ^Tt fcpSrsifi J 5 Oral Answers APRIL 25. 1972 Oral Answers 16

% «tt T|jft srt m MR. SPEAKER : The question is about soap factory in Malaysia. | ^*Ft *rr$ s r S w fsrwr- sttV ^ fm t i w ’tor w ^ricfr % fa SHRI A. C. GEORGE : Wc are not w ?£\q spt fipjftrft ^r

Setting np of Soap'factory in SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : The fragrance M alaysia and beauty of the Mysore sandalwood soap has atiractcd people not only in South East *552. SHRI DH ARAM RAO AFZAL- Asia but also in Europe. Yet, it is a matter PURKAR : Will the Minister of FOREIGN of regret that so far no steps have been TRADE he pleased to state : taken by this Mmi-.tr> in the matter of the export of the Mysore sandalwood soap and (a) whether the Mysore Government its technical know-how. May I know whal have proposed to set up a Soap Factory in steps ate proposed to be (aken,by the Govern­ Malaysia in collaboration with Malaysian ment of India, specially the Ministry of Government with a capital investment of Foreign I rade, to improve the export of this Rs. 10 lakhs; and soap ?

(b) jf so, the shaie of the State in fo­ SHRI A. C. GEORGE : The aroma of reign exchange in this regard ? the Mysore Sandalwood has gone far beyond the Far East; it has spread all o\er the world. It is the policy of the Government of India, THE DliPUJ V MINISTER IN THE specially of the Ministry of Foreign Trade, MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE to encouriigc the export of sandalwood soap (SHRI A. C. GEORGE) : (a) and (b). and sandalwood oil. Cash subsidies, import Mysore Government Soap Factory, Bangalore, replenishment and various other export assis­ is setting up a sandalwood soap factory in tance are given to exporters of sandalwood Malaysia in collaboration with a Malaysian oil and soap. firm, v i z M/s. P. Lai Stores, Kuala Lumpur. Indian party’s share in the total equity capi­ tal of Rs. 10 lakhs will be Rs. one lakh to MR. SPEAKER : No more questions on be subscribed through exports. the aroma of the Mysore sandalwood ?

SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZALPURKAR: What are the terms and conditions under Unprecedented Power Crisis in Orissa which the Mysore Government is setting up a sandalwood factory in collaboration with a private firm in Malaysia ? *553. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : SHRI BAKSI NAYAK : SHRI A. C. GEORGE : The Mysore Government will provide the required tech­ nical know-how, experience and advice which Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND will include training of personnel, manufac­ POWER be pleased to state : turing information, designs, engineering techniques, testing process etc. and shall (a) whether an unprecedented power provide the necessary technicians, engineers crisis has recently developed in Orissa and and managerial officers for this purpose. Over it is likely to affect the R our kela Steel Plant and above this, the Mjsore Government besides other industries there; would be supplying perfumes to the tune of Rs. 1 lakh per annum. (b) whether Government have made an assessment of the situation and taken any SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZALPUR­ positive steps to resolve the power crisis; KAR: May I know whether it is a fact that and the Mysore Government intends to put up a similar factory in Japan in collaboration (c) if so, the steps taken by Government with a private firm ? in the matter so far ? 17 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 3, 1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI R. S. PANDEY : What is the MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND power shortage in the country today ? POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) to (c). A statement is laid on the Table of the DR. K. L. RAO : The total shortage in House. the country is about 1 million kw; a daily production of 14 million kw hour in all the Statement States of India.

SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : From (a) A severe power shortage has deve­ the statement it appears that 15 mw of load loped in Southern Orissa which is served by is being shifted from Ganjam-Berhampur to the Machkund Project on account of shortage Talcher-Hirakud, that is, from South Orissa of water in Machkund reservoir due to poor to North Orissa. In view of the fact that rainfall in its catchment areas and conse­ South Orissa is facing an acute shortage of quent reduction in energy availability. This power, because of which industries are being has necessitated cuts in power suppy to indus­ affected in South Orrisa, may I know what is tries in Southern Orissa. Diversion of Power the justification for transferring these 15 mw from the Northern Part of Orissa to South­ to the Hirakud-Talcher system ? ern part has made it necessary to limit the power supply to Rourkela to the level of contracted demand of 40 mw only. DR. K. L. RAO : It is the other way about. We are transferring power from the (b) and (c). The situation is being asse­ north to the south, that is, from the Hirakud- ssed from time to time by the Orissa Talcher system we are putting in 15 mega­ authorities and the following steps have been watts of power in order to meet the load in taken so far to mitigate the shortage. the Ganjam-Berhampur area.

SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : The (i) 15 mw of load in G anjam -B er- statement says something else. It says—- hampur area has been transferred to the Hirakud— Talcher system. “ 15 mw of load in Ganjam-Berhampur area has been transferred to the Hirakud- (ii) Major industries in Southern Orissa Talcher system.” have been asked to reduce their off­ take of power voluntarily. How do you reconcile this with your answer ?

DR, K. L. RAO : I am sorry, this sen­ 7?% % TcfT ^TcTT | f o iT O W ftarT O P T T tence is probably not understood. The load *T

DR. K. L. RAO : Of course, compara­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tively the power slioitage m Orissa is smaller MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MOHD. than in other States, it has occurred only in SHAFT QURESHP : (a) and (b). No, Sir. 2 1 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

(c) Docs not arise Uttar Pradesh Government in Madhya Pradesh aria The Madhya Pradesh Govern SHRI NAWAI KISHORI SHARMA merit has claimed now lhat they want to I have only to thank the hon Ministu make use of some amount of water lor instead ol asking a question irrigation N iturallj this has led to a discussion between the ivso State Govern­ ment They have not jet tome to an agree­ MR SPFAKER 1 thank you for ments so fai It >s an old irrigation system sitting down so early We are trying to sort it out I am suie we will be able to find a way out I will be T*g«tT q fo flsR T (* * * Slfcl) having a discussion on this nutter % TT* SI»lf?T *ft ?fT*Tm «rf$T3rrr . SRT sftsft *T 3 *T

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drwlr sft far^pr-f*pr®f fa st ^tt ^ i ^tTT?T % 5 ft qr ^TcT-^Fr «fV K t ? *ft »^T*TTT3Rr arffTOTT . % *T ^TORTT f DR K L RAO The Chief Engineers f a ?friHT ^ far* fra# of the two States had a discussion with the ft?r % fasrrc-faqtf *nc ^ | ’ srvft t o Chairman of the Central water and power Commission to find a wa> out But they were srersr * -® q?rr *r^p* fr^ T ?, 5 not able to do bo Then, the Uttar Ftadesh Srfa?r srfcr * tttr *fV aftr it T fa *fr Chief Engineer was to go there along with the Madhya Pradesh Chief Enginetr to get 3tt T^r I ft 5 * affoprr some way out But that was also not done Tt fiSr fa^r wt *

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^TRJTr ^rrgcn $ fa> *fT3prr ?r *r£ar st^ st 5r ^ ft? fair jtkt sr^r ^ x Pradesh I do not know the actual extent of land for irrigation, but, I think, it is 'bout 20,000 acrcs in kharif DR K I RAO The entire dam-site and 17,000 acies in rabi is in Madhya Pradesh aiea I he hon Member was saying that it wis a dacoit- MR SPEAKTR Shri N N Pandey mfested aiea and, therefore, ungation must be extended That js not so much an sft arc? *raT m z important reason There is a moie impoi- tant reason and that is, bomg one of the Tg ? \ an ft ^ *T^t f t Uigest States in India, M idh>a Pradesh has | i wft qrr srRTpfi got the Itast nngation while it has got a high migation potential li is in the inteiest # fr I of the country that we should see that this State is supplied with irr gation to a laiger DR K I RAO There is no tan.il extent than what \u ire doing nov How can theie be an> irrigation 7 As I said F am tiymg to soit out the canal alignment Where is tht, question of giving a wrong oIT SRJTT SW * information > t TTT ^ r f 7%T f , 7*T *T W 5T^r tfTiFI? apT f«T*TfTT t SHRI NARS1NGH NARA1N PANDI Y I want to know what are the impediments, ^rfr st^t fr^TR ®pt f^rf’Tr t ^ m the v\av which have not so far led to an w n % 3rra Pradesh 1 he dispute ts not about Piadesh Government is now claiming it money The question is about allowance of saying, ‘ It is m our aiea VS hy don’t >ou water, how much water should be allowed allow us to have some water and have to be used by Madhya Pradesh irrigation >' The Uttar Piadcsh Govern­ ment says, ‘It ou mlerlenng with it 1' This has got to be sorted out *560 SHRI VhKARIA Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWrR g W TOjSTOSf : W S #t be pleased to state fa spot * *it |a r > s t o grrc?rfa«F (a) whether the Rural Electrification Cor­ poration has sanctioned any loan to rural *n?nx izF n ^Tfcfr | 4 k *rwr electric supply cooperatives in Gujarat for «ift ’aRrspT ?r m tfr ^ c f r 1971-72 and 1972-73, and 25 Oral Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Oml Answer* 26

(b) if so the amount of the loan names SHRl VEKARIA May I know how of the co operatives and the purpose for many vilhges ire elcctrificd bv this co opera­ which it has been sanctioned 0 tive society, how manv pumpsets have been installed and how many small scale industries THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE are provided power by the »ocict> within MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND thtse two y**ars 0 POWER (SHRI B N KUREfrL) (a) and (b) A statement is laid on the Table of the DR K L RAO That I will not be House able to say The total number of villages Statement that may be electnhtd is given in the answer Actually what is the progress on th it particular item I will not be able to (a) and (b) One pilot rural clectric co­ give here 1 will get the information and operative in the State of Gujarat is beinj? financed by the Rural Electrihc mon Cor- supply it to the hon Member pnation This co operative covers 107 villages (out of which 85 are unelectrified) in kodnnr Tiluk of Anireli District and f a t * tphV s r 5fr t o portions of Una and Veraval Taluks of Jununih District The Coiporation has *fts£ tN t t t *tN t fa s r/r jttsrtjit T t sinetioned Imn assistance of Rs 183 12 #T5R T^cTT t ? lakhs ft r this co operative on concessional terms spread over a peuod of five vears to DR K 1 R \ 0 There ire certain w irds the implementation of their elcctnft criteria Munl> it is intended to serve the cition piogiammcs from 1971 These pro backwaid areas The genenl criterion thit grimmes envisage the electrification of 8^ thev have laid down is that there should be vill ges ind 50^0 pumpsets ind provision some fixed return on the chemc which is of powei to 210 small scale and agro tndus sanctioned Tvei then exemption is given tries The Corporation has so far disbursed if it is a backwaid ctate like Orissa and West in amount of Rs 5^77 lakhs as detailed below Bengal

sto m m tovnmr vfi&t 1970 71 — Rs 30 00 lakhs 1971 72 Rj, 23 77 lakhs * t^t I fa? 'Bfvm -rV qrfowi f r e t I dTtr ‘3‘fTfT m«Tf*nfWT 53 77 lakhs i t \ ST^5T TT S frF S^TTT *TT fqrasr fdTT t I *3*r V tffc TT Release of fuither lunds by the Corporation m the current financial year would be made Tt £ *rr stsR- ? according to the progress of works DR K L RAO I know Basfar iiea SHRI VEKAR1A It appears from the is a backward area we will be \erv happv to statement that the loan granted m 1970-71 sanction projects m tint aiea is about Rs 7 lakhs moie than that giantcd m 1971-72 May I know what are the SHRI S M BANf R Jtt The Minister reasons for the dccitast in the amount 7 has replied regirding the backward ncis of Madhya Pradesh He is alsi awaie about THE MINISTER OP IRRIGATION the backward areas of U P espeedily the AND POWER (DR X L RAO) The eastern district of U P Ruial Electrification Corporation has dis­ bursed this amount It is given from time MR SPEAKPR Please don t think to time according to the progress of the there is no question of iclcx wcv when there work If there is no progress, the amount is enough time available is reduced That is how it happens There is no reason for the reduction of the amount SH Rl S M BANFR J l I 1 would other than progress of the work request the Minister to let us know whether 27 Written Answers APRIL 2% 1972 Written Answers 28 adequate action has been taken to provide (b) the places where it is available 0 electricity at cheaper rate at some leasonable rate for-the rural sector in the cstern districts o' U P also THl MINISTFR OF IRRIGATION AND POWFR (DR K L RAO) (a) An area of about 2 25 lakh acres has been set DR K L RAO 1 am sorry that in apart m Rajasthan Canal Command for the U P the rate for rural electrification is the tehabilitation of Pong Dam Oustees Out of highest m the country Wc hive taken some this the actual area to be allotted will depend steps from time to time but we have not on the number of oustees entitled to allot­ succeeded so far At any rate the rate is ment higher than some other States

MR. SPEARER The Minister is very About 1 11 lakh acres is alreidy avai­ obliging Any other hon Membci 9 lable Anothei 90,000 acres will become available on completion of Niusheiu Branch uuder SHgt 1 bv 197^-74 The bilancc SHRl D BASUMATARI May 1 know 24 000 acres will be available on comple­ Assam is having the lowest consumption ol tion of Dal tor Branch undei Stape II of electricity in the country > If so, what steps the Pioiett the Government propose to take in this respect 9 (b) The land presently available is under the command of Suratgarh and Anupgarh DR K L RAO Assam always comes brandies of the Raiasthui Canal in Ganga- as lowest in this respect The average elec­ n\R» Distnct trification of villages in Ihe a untry is 20 pci cent In Assam it is 4 per cent Measures to save Foreign Exchange MR SPEAK.LR I am going to the on Import of Sophisticated second round Mi Vikram Mahajan Equipment for Railways abstnt Mi Horo Mr G \ Krishnan- absent Shri Sinkta Prasad-abstnt Shri Ram Avtar Shistri-absent Shri Sivasamy- *545 SHRl N 1 HORO SHRI C. Y KRISHNAN absent Shri Damani-absent Shi i Suryi- narayana-absent Shn Chandiappip-abscnt The Question List is over Will the Miniver of RAILWAYS be pleased to state

(a) the iccommcndatron made by the official committee set up to suggest measures WRITTEN ANSWI RS TO to save foieign exchange on import of sophi­ QUESTIONS stic itcd equipment foi the Railways, and

Land Required for Rehabilitation of (b) the action takes thereon ’ Pong Dam Oustees (H. P ) THb MINISTER OF RAILWAYS *542 SHRl VIKRAM MAHAJAN (SHRl K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) The Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND recommendations made by the Committee POWER be pleased to state are given in the statement laid on the Table of the House [Placed tn Library See No IT— 1845/72] (a) how much land was needed for the rehabilitation of the Pong Dam oustees (Himachal Ptadesh) in Rajasthan and how (b) The Government have accepted all much land so far has actually been nndt the recommendations However, in regard available by Government for their rehabili­ to Para 2, alternative at (b) has been tation, and accepted 29 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1 8 9 4 (& 4K 4) Written Answers

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Trade Turn-over of S. T G (b) the steps taken by Government to ensure earning of more profits by them ? *554 SHRl M S SIVASAM^ Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state THF MINISTER OF FOREIGN (a) the detailed trade turn-over and pro­ TRADF (SHRl L. N M/SHRA) • (a) The fits earned by State Trading Corporation and figures of trade turn-over and profits earned its subsidiaries dunng the last three years, by the SIC ajid its subsidiaries are as year-wise, and follows - 33 Written Aniwen VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

(Rs. crores)

Exports Imports Domestic Total Profit before tax

State Trading Corporation 1969*70 55 15 150 18 5 39 210 72 12 74 1970-71 70 58 141 90 5 36 217 84 6 43 1971-72 76 2S 16^68 10 9* 2^2 88 13 33 Subsidiaries of S FC Projects & f qutpment Corporation* 1969-70 — — — 1970-71 — — — — 1971-72 16 20 25 60 - 41 80 0 47 * PEC was incorporated in 1971 72 onlv (21 4 71) Cashm Corporation of India] 1969 70 — — ~ — — m o 71 1148 1 1 48 0 73 1971-72 0 25 29 02 0 02 29 29 2 34 I CC1 was jncorponted m 1970-71 only Handicrafts A. Handiooms F xport Coiporation 1969-70 1 90 — 0 62 2 52 0 01 1970 71 151 0 62 0 28 4 4"* 0 04 1971-72 4 13 0 35 0 14 4 62 (-) 0 07 Indian Motion Pit tines Fxport Corporation J 1969-70 — — — — 0 04 1970-71 — — — — 0 05 1971 72 —. - — ~ 0 04 } The business of IMPEC is inducct and on a service charge commission basis State I rading C orporalton (Canada) § 1969-70 — — 0 11 0 11 (— ) 0 02 1970-71 - 0 09 0 09 (—) 0 05 1971-72 — — — — ^ Since wound up

(b) The Corporation earns considerable (b) the areas benefited by it and whether trading profits Besides, the expenditure of full utilization is being made ot all the the S7C is well controlled The employment benefits and ot cash is kept under strict control The Cor­ poration is also switching its surplus lunds for (c) if not, the reasons therefor 9 use within the S7C Group, from one Company to another, to ensure the maximisation of THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION available sources and minimisation of interest AND POWFR (DR K L RAO) (a) to payments (c) Gandak Project is still under construc­ tion With the completion of the project, an Gftndak Project Benefits area of 11 51 lakh hactaret. in the districts of Sar&n Champaran, Muzaffarpur and *557 SHRTS R DAM ANI Will the Darbhanga of Bihar State and 3 32 lakh Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER hectares m the districts of Gorakhpur and be pleased to state Deorta of Uttar Pradesh State would get irrigation benefits During the year 1971-72, (a) the benefits which have accrued after irrigation potential of 1 6 Jakh hectares in completion of the Gandak pfbjcct, Bihar and 0 67 lakh hectares m Uttar 35 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 36

Piadesh is expected to be created against (d) Such information is not icadily which the utilization is expccted to be 0 29 available Enquiries aie being made and lakh hectares and 0 32 lakh hectares ics- full infoimation will be placed on the Table pectiveJy. The slow development of utili­ of (he Sabha zation is attributed to various reasons such as the existing Satta System, slow progress of construction ot field channels by the bene­ Crash Plan for Cotton Textile Exports ficiaries, delay in acquisition of land for construction of water courses, etc. *559 SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : Will the Minister of FORFIGN TRADE be Services of Northern Railway Officials pleased to state * Lent to Zambian Railways (a) whether Government have initiated *558. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA : a crash plan to revive cotton textile export; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased and to state :

(b) if so, an outline thereof ? (a) whether the services of a number of Railway Officials from the Northern Railway have been lent to the Zambian Railways and THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN Government of Zambia; TRADE (SHRI I . N. MISHRA) : (a) and (b). There is no crash plan as such in respect of cotton textile export. During the (b) if so, whether a statement showing year 1971-72, exports of cotton textiles the names and designations of the Railway appioximated to about Rs. 110 crores as Offidals-Classess IV to I will be laid on against Rs. 115cioies during the picvious the Table on the House; year. High prices of cotton last year seriously a fleeted the competitive position (c) the manner in which the selection of cotton textile exports from India, parti­ was made and whether the posts weie circul­ cularly ot cotton yarn Demand of some ated to all the Railways and if not, the of the yarn impoiting countries from reasons therefor; and India was also substantially lower. With a view to increasing exports of cotton textiles, (d) the number of the Officials selected besides continuance and strengthening of the who are sons of Oflicei s of the Northern normal measure of export assistance, spccial Railway ? attention is being paid to develop export production capacity of the textile industry by the installation of additional automatic THE MINISTER OE RAILWAYS looms. The demand of exporting mills for (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Yes, imported sophisticated textile machinery is Sir. being processed on priority basis. A scheme for the grant of soft loans for the moderni­ (b) A statement is laid on the Table zation of export-oriented cotton textiles of the Sabha. [Placed in Library. See No. mills has been evolved and other problems LT—1846/72] of modernization arc receiving serious attention.

(c) In all six requisitions were received from the Zambia Railways. The Railway In pursuit of new avenues in the field Zonal Administrations and Production Units of cotton textiles export tiade, a deal has were asked to recommend names of suitable been signed with the USSR, whereby the and willing persons. In three instances USSR would supply to India 20,000 tonnes covering the bulk of the requirements, the of cotton for conversion into cotton fabrics final selection was made by the Zambia and other manufactures to be exported back Railways. As the requirements were few in to the USSR. India would receive about the remaining three instances, the final Rs. 16*50 crores as conversion charges, for selection was left to a Railway Board team. the current year. 37 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answert 38

Posting of Senior Clerk at Kanpur Rail Link between Cochin and other Cities and Expansion of Container 3778 SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY Service Will the M im stu of RAILWAYS be pleased to state 3779 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to (a) the numbfci of casts where Court state Injunctions have been obtained by officials against orders of tnnsfei on different Divi­ (a) whether there is any propsal to sions of Ihe Noithun Railway during introduce container service on more loutes Jmuiry 1969 to December 1971, (b) if so, which are the routes to be (b) whether a Senior Clerk, Commer- immediately taken up ci il Branch who was shifted from public dealing sc it to non*public dealing seat (c) whether Government have got any suved Contempt Notices through Court scheme to link Cochin with other impoitant against the Division il Authorities of Allaha- industrial centres of the country with the bid Division Container Service and

(d) if so an outline of the scheme ? (c) whethei the ud Scnioi Clerk was origin ill> tianstcrred to South Tastern Rulwavon adveise Vigilance Reports but THF MINISTER OF RAILWAYS subsequent managed to get his posting at (SHRI K HANUMANTHA1YA) (a) Yes Kanpui on tht same Division and (b) Proposals to introduce container sen ices between New Delhi and Madras j (d) if so what were the considerations Bangalore, New Delhi and Secunderabad, for posting him at Kanpur on the same Cochin and Bangalore and between Bomb \y Division > and Arumuganery on Southern Railway, are under examination THfc M IN lST rR Ob RAILWAYS (SHRf K HANI/MANIII^^ A) (a) (c) Yes

23 f 1969 (d) It is proposed to link Cochin w ith I Madras New Delhi and Calcutta b> con­ Allahabad Dm^ion J 10 tainer sei vices j 1 Bikaner Division

| 1970 Works of Development of Railwaj s J 4 Allahabad Division in Kerala During 197s 73 j 1 Moradabad Division 3780 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI Will j 1971 the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to I 6 Allahabad Divison state ^ 1 Mor idabad Division (a) a brief outline ot the works to be (b) Yes done in Kerala for the development of Railways during the vear 1972-73, and (c) Yes However, he did not manage the posting himself (b) the Scheme-wise financial allotment for this period ’ (d) As his transfer to South Eastern Railway could have lesulted in serious delay THE MINISTER OF RAII WAYS in initiating the disciplinary pioceedings (SHRIK HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) and against him, it was dccided to post him to (b) Railway development schemes are not a station withm Northern Railway formulated state wise sepaiately but 19 Written Asnwers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 40

Railway wise, on the basis of specific ope­ Allahabad Kanpur and Lucknow cities, the rational and traffic requirements on various rates tor domestic and commeicial consumers routes As such, no separate Schemewise art lowti lor historical reasons No central financial allotment for the State of Kerala pool is giving bulk supply to thcie two is compiled States

(b) Does not arise Steam Cranes Manufactured in Jamalpnr Factory Names of Hydro, Thermal and 3781 KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI Nuclear Schemes in Bihar Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased and Uttar Pradesh to state

1781 KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI (a) whether Jamalpur factory is the only Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND one m India which is meeting the require­ POWFR be pleiscd to state ments of cranes for broad gauge railways,

(b) if so, the total number of steam (a) th** names of hydio, thermal and cranes manufactured so far, and nuclear schemes in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh for implementation (c) the estimated saving in foieign exchange on this account ? (b) whether all these will be implemented in the je irs 1972-74 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRl K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) Yes

(c) if not, the numbei and names of (b) One hundred and thirty five those which will be implemented in the year 1972 74 and (c) About rupees three crorcs

(d) the time by which all the schemes Uniform Power Tariff In Uttar in these two States will be implemented ? Pradesh and Bihar

THE DTPUTY MINISTER IN THE 1782 KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWLR (SHRI B N KURbEL) (a) The POWER be pleased to state names of Hydro and thermal power schemes for implementation during Fourth plan m (a) whether uniform power tariff are Bihar and Utter Piadcsh are enclosed at being established in Uttar Pradesh and Annexure-I No nuclcar schemes have Bihar to obtain power supply m bulk from been included for implementation in Bihar the central pool and and Uttar Pradesh during the Fourth Plan

(b) if so, the broad outline thereof ? (b) and (c) No, Sir The numVers and names of schemes u Inch are likely to be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE implemented by 1973-74 are indicated in MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND the statement-1 eneloscd POWER (SHRl B N KURfcEL) (a) The Bthar State Electricity Board as also the Uttar pradesh State Electricity Board have (d) All the remaining schemes included uniform tariffs for each categoiy of consu­ in the Fourth Plan are likely to be imple­ mers m their respective areas except that m mented within tl)ye Fifth Plan 41 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, J894 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

Statement

Schemes for Implementation I) ring Fourth Plan in Uttar Pradish and Bihai

A Schemcs commissioned or 1ikd\ to be commissioned by March 1974 I Bihar

Kosi Hydro 4 5 = 20 MW B in u m Lxleiv»ion 3 50= 100 MW Patratu Thermal I ' 5 0 1 2 X I 0 0 > ° MW Total 370 MW ' 2 Uttai Piadesh

\ainun-i H>dro Sta&t. - 1 1X17X1/11 28 MW \am u n a Hvdro St igc — 11 (C hibro) 4 > 60 - 240 MW Obra Iljdro 3 X 3 3 - 99 MW Yununa Hjdro Stapt —IV 1 X 10 10 MW Rumganga H>dtl 1 60 60 MW O b n therm tl 2> 50 •=100 MW Obn thumal I\tti sions Sta^ I 3 ^ 100 = 300 MW Hirduaginj Stigt IV(Thermal; 2 v S5 = -1 1 0 MW Total 947 MW

B Schcmes which will spil) over and be commissioned during Fifth Plan 1 Bthai

Subarmekha Hydtl 1 < 65- 65 MW Patratu Thermal I-xtcnsion 2 110=-220 MW North Bihar The i mil 1 X 1 1 0 = 1 1 0 MW Total 395 MW 2 Uttar Pradesh

Ramganga H>dcl 1 X 6 0 “ 60 MW Harduaganj Thumal Fxlcnsion 1 V 110=-110 MW Panki Theriml Fxttrsion 1 X 110=110 MW Iotal 280 MW

Exploitation oC Hydro Sources THE DEPUTV MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY Ol IRRIGATION AND 3784 KUMARI KAMLA KLMAR1 POWER (SHRIB N KUREH) (O pro- Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND granne of investigations of 62 potential POWFR be pleased to state generating schemes all over the countiy with an aggregate installed generating capacity of (a) whtther there is any pioposal lor a 12 million kw, has been taken up with the national plan for investigation of hjdro assistance of U N Special development sources with a view to exploiting them on a fund* The lmestigalions are being done by larger scale, and the State authorities with Central Water and Power Commission as a coordinating (b) if so, the time by which thii pio- authority, for procurement and distribution posal is likely to matet lalise ? of equipment 43 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 44

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(«) 5Prr fr?ft ?|pr % 3T3$fa?r (b) None 3TT% ^T «T^?T STETRTsrtf % ^ «TT S T * WH T fT a f t r (c) As these casting workshops meet the requirements of the Southern Railway, there is no proposal at present to set up any (»r) s f e $ f, cfr s? r * f? r ^>t fm r «Rrr moie woikshops m Kuala t ? Potential of Hydro Eletric Power in fcf («ft %o ^T^UT) (^) Chachai Fall* of Rewa District STf^ I (Madhya Pradesh)

3790 SHRI MART AND SINGH (sr) (»T) 5TOT ^grScTT I Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWFR be pleased to state Location of Railway Workshop Factories on Southern Railway (a) whether Government arc awaie that Chachai Falls of ot Raw a District in Madh>a 3789 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI Will Pradesh have large potential of H>dro the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Fltctnc Powei and sta te . (b) if so, the steps taken so far or (a) the number of major workshops and proposed to be taken m the near future factories on the Southern Railway and in this legaid ? the States m which they are located, THF DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) how many of them are in Kerala; MINISTRY 01 IRRIGATION AND and POWLR (SIIRl B N KUREEL) (a) Yes, Sir (c) whether there is any proposal to set up any moreworksops m Kerala m the coming (b) Madhya Pradesh Government have hve year* and it so, how many and where 9 submitted scheme for installation of a 690 MW powet station down stream of Chachai Falls in Tons Valley utilising a drop of 183 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Metres for developing 253 MW of firm (SHRI K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) The following are the major workshops and facto* power by utilising the waters of the Tons ries m the Southern Railway nvers and &ome waters diverted from the Sone river into the Tons valley (1) Perambur Locomotivc Workshop, Madras, Tamil Nadu As the project involves inter-state aspccts, the matter is under discussion bet­ (2) Perambur Carriage & Wagon Work­ ween the Govrnments of Madhya Pradesh, shop, Madras, Tamil Nadu Bihar and Uttar Pradesh 49 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 {SAKA) Written Answers 50

Supply of Stretched Nylon Yarn to Electrification of Kurai Village, Small Scale Industries District Meerut

3793. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : 3792. SHRI B. S. BHAURA : Will the Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Minister of FOREIGN 1RADE be pleased POWFR be pleased to state : to state : (a; whether work relating to electri­ (a) whether hosiery manufacturers wok fication by the rural electrification division, being given licences for the import of sti etch­ Meerut m village Kursi (Muradnagar) Dis­ ed nylon yarn and whether this practice has trict Meerut, U. P. has not been completed now been stopped and their share is now so fai; if so. the reasons therefor; being given to the big nylon yarn manufac­ turers; (b) whether the inhabitants of the said village have deposited the required amount (b) whether Government are awaie »f money with the rural electrification that the big concerns are chaigmg much scheme's office at Modmagar, if so, the higher price for the yam fiom the hosiery reasons for the delay in the implementation manufactuiors, and of the scheme; and

(c) whether Government have received (c) when the work ol the ruial clectri- any representation lrorn the hosiery manu­ lication scheme in the said village is likely facturers in this regard and ii so, the action to be completed 0 taken or proposed to be taken to ensure supply of yarn to them at leasonable THL DFPUTY MINISTER IN THE prices 9 MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWFR (SHRI B. N. KURELl) : (a) to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN IHL (c) W'ork in respect of the electrification of MINISTRY OF FOREIGN 1 RADE (FHRl village K u is i m the Rural Electrification A. C. GEORGE): (a) and

(c) whether any suggestion has been THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE made to the World Bank for rendering finan­ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE cial assistance for the projtct, and (SHRI A C GEORGE) (a) Cochm, Mangalore, Ratnagiri, Bombay, Madras and (d) whethei the construction of the Calcutta are the ports from where frozen project will be completed by the end of the prawns are now being exported regulaily Fourth Five Year Pkn, as scheduled 0 and m fur quantities

(b) The Government have considered THE DEPUTY MINJS1ER IN THE the demand foi shipments from VishKha- MINISTRY Of IRRIGATION AND patnam and Kakinada and taken up with POWER (SHRl B N KURFEL) (a) The the Confeience Lines m 1971 and impressed amount '.pent b> Government of Andra on them the need loi pioviding these facilities Piadesh on the construction ol Thungabhadra The Government has also made anange- High I evcl Canal Projcct, stage II, fiom ments for shipments when lequcsts weie 1967-68 onwaids has btcn as under made specihcallj during 1971

Year Amount spent (c) The Government arc keen to extend (in ci ores ol Rs ) these facilities but icgular arrangements will be possible with ofiers of adequate quantities 1967-68 0 52 of frozen products on rtgular intei vals I he 1968-69 1 67 quantity of cargo offered at present is samll 1969-70 1 82 cither at Kakinada or Vishakhapatnam to 1970-71 1 86 induce any shipping line to berth a vessel 1971-72 2 00 in these ports

Price of Coconut Husk (b) The revised estimated cost of the compleu proieci is Rs 16 11 crores lor 3796 SHRl VAYALAR RAVI Will Andhra Piadesh the Minister of FOREIGN TRADF be (c) No pleased to refei to the reply given to Un­ starred Question No 135 7 on the 28th March, 1972 re price of Coconut Husk and (d) The projcct is likely to be completed state during the Ilfth live Ycai Plan, m the light of the resources available foi its (a) whether Government since have implementation examined the High Court judgement regar­ ding the price of Coconut Husk, ai«d Export of Frozen Prawns from Vishakhapatnam and Kakinada (b) if so, the line of action determined m the light thereof 9

1795 SHRI K kODANDA RAMI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE REDDY Will the Minister of FOREIGN MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRl Trade be pleased to state A C GEORGE) (a) Yes Sir

(b) A revision petition is being filed (a) whethei frozen piawns are being before the Full Bench of the Kerala High exported mostl> from Madras and Cochin, Couit

(b) whether Government have considered Grievances of Handloom Weaver* the question of asking the ships to call at in Andhra Pradesh Vishakhapatnam and Kakinada also for the purpose ? and 3797 SHRI Y fcSWARA REDDY Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (c) whethei Government propose to be pleased to state . provide necessary shipping facilities at Vishakhapatnam and Kakinada to ensure a (a) whether Government are aware that regular export of marine products ? the life of lakhs of hand-loom weavers in 5 3 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1*04 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

Andhra Pradesh is becoming extremely bad Second/Third Class Tickets or Compliment­ due to prevailing high prices, in cotton yam, ary Passes, colours and chemicals, (b) whether Government have received (b) whether Government have rcccived complaints against the Reservation Staff ot any proposal to declaie cotton yarn as an Allahabad foi refusing to make reservations essential commodity and fix the price at a of First C lass berths against Second or Third reasonable level and, if so, the Government s Class Tickets and reaction thereto, (c) if so, the action taken thereon 7 (c) the amount of accumulated stocks of hand loom cloth with the master wea\us THL MINISTER OF RAILWAYS and m cooperative societies m Andhia (SHRI k HANUMANTIIA1YA) (a) Pi adesh proposed to be exported to Bangla Adxanee reservation of Fust Class berths Desh and against Second/Third class tickets or compli­ mentary passes can be made on payment of (d) other measures under consideration the difference of fare between First Class and to tedress their grievances 9 the class of Pass/Ticket held

I Hi DEPUTY MINISTER IN THL (b) No MINISTRY OP FORL1GN TRADF (SHRI A C GEORGE) (a) Handkiom weavers all (c) Does not arise o\cr the country have been aflected adversely by the use in pnas of cotton yarn trom the middle of 1970 onwards They arc now Booking of Wagons against Railway coming down No complaints in regard to Restrictions on Northern Railway the high prices or short supply of colours and chemical* are in the notice of Govern­ ment *799 SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased (b) and (c) Yes Sir As the prices of to state cotton yarn have fallen during the current year and are expected to attain reasonable (a) the number of wagons (full-load) levels, during the next two or three months, booked against Railway restrictions b> the it is not considered necessary to control its staft of Manjurgarhi Station of Northern puces Rahway during January 1969 to Apul, 1971 month-wise separately, (c) Information regarding the accumu­ lation of stocks of handloom cloth m Andhra (b) whether any enquiry was conducted Piadssh is not available to fix up responsibility and if so, the findings thereof, and

Advance Reservation of First Class Bertha (e) the staff/officeis who have been found Against Second/Third Class Tickets responsible for such mal practices together or Complimentary Passes on with action proposed to be taken against Allahabad Division (Northern them f Railway)

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 3798 SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY (SHRI K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) The Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased total number of wagons booked against to state Railway, restrictions by the staff ot Manjur- gaihi station of Northern Railway during (a) whether the rules permit advance January 1969 to Ap>J, 1971 v.s ”H8 reservation of First Cfiiss berths against Details month-wise arc as follows 55 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 56

Month No. of wagons Month No. of wagons booked booked

January, ’69 January, ’70 Febiuary, ’69 February, ’70 March, ’69 March, ’70 April, ’69 April, ’70 May, ’69 May, ’70 June, ‘69 June, ’70 July, ’69 July, ’70 28 August, ’69 August, *70 13 September, '69 September, ’70 71 Octobcr, *69 October. ’70 80 November, ’69 November, ’70 27 Decembei, ’69 December, ’70 94 January. ’7 I I* February, ’71 14 March, ’71 April, *71 (*c\cludmg 12 days for which records are being verified.)

(b) Yes, an enquiry was conducted by a Committee of Northern Railway Officers into the incidents uplo the end of December 1970 and the Committee came to the conclusion that five officials ot the Northern Railway were responsible for such booking against restric­ tions. The incidents of Januaiy and I ebruary 1971 are beinc investigated.

(c) I he persons held responsible were :

(a) Station Master of Manjurgarhi station. (b) 1 he Siddmg Clerk of the Glaxo Laboratory Siding, Manjurgarhi. (c) The Commercial Inspector of Tundla. (d) The Transportation Inspector of Aligarh. (O rIhc Stock Controller at Tundla.

Action has been initiated against these employees under Discipline and Appeal Rules for imposition of a major penalty.

Blacklisting of M/S. Ballabh Das Howrah, which is owned by the son of the Handling Contractor for Manager of M/s. Ballabh Das; and Parcels/Goods (c) if so, the action proposed to be taken .3800 S1IRI CHANDRIKA PRASAD : by Government in the matter ? SHRI AZIZ TMAM : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) No. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (b) and (c). Do not arise.

(a) whether M/S. Ballabh Das, Handling Candidate for Rajasthan Legislative Contracts for parcels/goods on South Hast Assembly convicted for and Northern Railways, was black-listed on C orruption account of mal-practices; 3801. SHR1MATI B1BHA GHOSH GOSWAM1: Will the Minister of LAW (b) whether alter black-listing, the firm AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : took contracts on the Railways in the name of M/S. Allahabad Labour Supply Agency, (a) whether apy candidate, who was con- 57 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 vjcled for corruption, bad contested election ffrfwfnr w x $ £ t ?nr?n?r, to the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly; and T sft tft s^ifr ^ C(TT % fa-n;

(c) if so, the name of the candidate and fafr »ttt eft 5^ 3r spt t o t r ; art? the Party to which he belongs ? TfT*ft3T5TT3ff % fr if f '■TT- fvWRft ^ I THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRl NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDHARY) : Raising Railways Participation in (a) No, Sir. K. S. R. T. Corporation

(b) Does not arise. 3803. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH . Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state

(a) whether Government had dccided m g f ipffr May, 1969, to raise the Railways participa­ tion in the Kerala State Road Transport 3802. srnrwrm tt* : tot Corporation to a uniform level of 3 3 l; per ftrorf sf\r fatM freft ^ ^ cent; frrfr far : (b) whether there arc any arrears to be paid by the Centre «n the matter; and (ep) TOT 1970-71 a ftr 1971-72 fr TTKftir Tfoftsrcr ffrfrfa ?f> a§cr (c) if so, the main features of the deci­ sion and the steps taken by Government m & t ; clearing the arrears at the earliest ?

(s r) ?rf, eft ara cPF jp r f tjir f t THE MINISTFR OF RAILWAYS STffr I $ I ; art* «PTT ^TTtir f ; aftT (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) The Central Government (Railways) in Januaiy, 1969 agreed, in principle, to laise their level (*r) fr h t ^tr s r o tot of capital contribution to the State Road wfsrTfV | ? Transport Corporations including Kerala State Road Transport Corporation to 33* ffr*Tf sfk fiwfr **rasr fr s

1967-68 29 21 STTST Wt Stabilisation of Traditional Industries 1968-69 104*99 3TO in K erala 1969-70 100*17 srrer w r 3804. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : 1970-71 131-59 srre sqfr Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be 1971-72 loo-oo 5Tiw

(b) if so, l he salient features thereof; and Amount Outstanding against Cycle* Stand Contractors at Stations (c) the decisions taken by the Planning over Allahabad Division Commission thereon ? 3806. SHRI CHANDR1KA PRASAD : Will the Minisler of RAILWAYS be pleased THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to stale : MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE) : (a) to (c). The (a) whether any amount is also outstan­ Govt, of Kerala approached the Planning ding against the cycle stand Contractors at Commission with a comprehensive scheme for stabilisation of coir industry only and certain stations over Allahabad Division and not for cashcw. The schemc was considcicd if so, the total amount outstanding; and by a Study Group set by the Planning Com­ mission. The recommendations made by the (b) the steps Government propose to Study Group and the action taken thereon take against the staff who failed to realise arc indicated in the statement laid on the the dues in time ? Table of the House. [Placed in Lifaary. See No LT— 1847/72 ] THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a) Yes. A total sum of about Rs. 9029 00 is out­ standing against the cycle stand contractors Dues Outstanding Against Cycle-Stand at Allahabad and Aligarh railway stations in Contractor at Allahabad Allahabad Division.

3805. SHRI CHANDRIKA PRASAD: (b) As theic has been no failure on the Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased part of staff and railway dues aie rccoveiable to state : in terms of the agreements, the question of taking action against the staff docs not arise.

(a) whether a sum of Rs. 8,000 could Increase In Price of Coal not be rccovcrcd from the Cycle Stand con­ tractor at Allahabad during the years 3807. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : 1967-70; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) whether the contract of the party conccrned was terminated for breach of the (a) whether the Bureau of Industrial contract; and Costs and Prices has accepted the coal industry's demand for an increase in price;

(c) whether the outstanding dues have (b) if so, the demand made by the coal now been realised and if not, the reasons industry and on what ground the Bureau has therefor ? accepted the coal industry’s demand; and

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (c) the likely impact of the rise in coal (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) and price oo the Railway and other consumers of (b). Yes. The contractor was awarded the coal and whether Government have accepted cycle stand contract at Allahabad railway the recommendation of the Bureau ? station for two years on and from 1.6.1967, bat he left the contract without notice after THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS depositing 14 instalments. Hence his con­ (SHRI K. H A N UM ANTHAIY A): (a) Yes, tract was terminated. partially.

(c) Legal action is being taken to recover (b) Most of the collieries have asked for the outstanding railway dues from the con­ a price increase of Rs. 3 75 per tonne for tractor. supplies of coal to the Railways i.i 1972. 61 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

On the basis of its study of the coal produc­ (b) As a result of introduction of unified tion trends and the cost of raising coal, the system of maintenance the category of Bureau has recommended price increases Electric Fitters (Telegiaphs) has been ranging from Re. 0*37 to Rs 2*26 per tonne abolished. Two employees were posted in for ccrtain varieties of coal. the Control Room as Telecommunication Maintainers temporarily nnce qualified staff (c) The additional expenditure to the were not then available. In view of their Railways on account of increase in coal working in the Control Office for a long prices is estimated at about Rs. 16 crores period the two emplojces in question have per annum. The increase in the price of coal been asked to sit for the test for the posts of for the Railways is likely to affect the price Telecommunication Maintainers. for other consumers. The Government have taken into account the recommendations (c) The channel of promotion of As­ of the Bureau while deciding the coal prices. sistant Telecommunication Maintainers will not be affected as the Electric hitters (Tele­ Irregular Promotion of Electric Fitter graphs) are being absorbed against the duect Telegraphs of S and T. Department recruitment quota. (Southern Railway) (d> Does not arise. 3808. SHRl T. S. LAKSHMANAN : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state .* Export of Iron to Japan

(a) whether Government are aware that Electric Fitter Telegraphs of Signals and 3809. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY. Tele-communication Department on Southern Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be Railway have their channel of promotion as pleased to state ; Block Signal Maintainers only as per Indian Railway Establishment Manual; (a) whether Government have made anv study of the comparative qualities of iron (b) whether the Divisional Personnel ores supplied to Japan by India and by Brazil, Officer Madras vide his communication Australia, South Africa, Peru Chile, No. MP S35/13/111 of the J 8th March, Malayasia and U. S. A. and if so, the out­ 1972 has called Electric Fitter Telegraphs come thereof; for Trade Test for the post of TCMS which is not their legitimate channel of promotion; (b) how the price paid by Japan to India (c) if so, whether Government are aware for Indian iron ore compares with the price that the channel of promotion to ATCMS is paid by Japan to the aforesaid countries; blocked by such promotions of FFTS; as and TCMS; and

(c) whether all these matters were taken (d) whether Government propose to issue into account before finalising the export price orders to stop such trade tests without order­ of Indian iron ore to Japan; and if not, the ing the employees to seek their promotion in their avenue chart as per Establishment reasons therefor ? Manual ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) ; A, C. GEORGE) : (a) to (c). The Indian (a) Electric Fitter Telegraphs have not been exports of iron ore to Japan consist of diffe­ provided with a channel of promotion to rent grades and the f. o. b. prices secured posts of Block Signal Maintainers on are generally in line with the world market Southern Railway. prices for a particular grade. 63 Written Answers APRJL 25, 1972 Written Answers 64

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHA1YA) : (a) Yes, when accommodation is not available in Rest House. 3810. «ft 9fT5Tir> ^nf : *wr «fefV ^ sp-n^r ftt ^ fr : (b) No charges are realised for use of Inspection Carriages for temporary stay pur­ ( * ) nm JTTfrir spr fsrsnr poses, as the use of departmental coaches for such purposes has no financial implica­ *r *pNrfofr % f^^sTT tions. $ v tf %mx *r |; (c) No.

(w ) «ptt % STRTT^lf * t ^ (d) Does not arise. fr^Tf ft tfr wnr «rrrvr^ & *rt srfa- Complaint against Divisional Superin­ s r r o m ft; srfc tendent, Moradabad

(it) arfir ^f, ’rt rr tfsra ^ ^rpcr 3812. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACH- sq^^T % fair 5TTT VTT WAI : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : vr stt ^ t ? (a) whether he had received any com­ *r*ft («ft %o gginfrn): (*f ) sft plaint from the Congress workers of M oulded against the Divisional Superin­ vzf i tendent, Northern Railway, Moradabad regarding his allegedly anti-national activities (® ) tfr ^ i during Indo-Pak war; and

(*r) t o srsff ^ r r i (b) if so, the nature thereof and the action taken by Government in the matter ? Officers Carriage Misused Cor Rest* dential Purposes by Senior Officers of Allahabad THE MINISTFR OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Division (Northern K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Tvo com­ from Railway) plaints were received the Vice President, City C ongress Committee, Moradabad against the Divisional Superintendent, Moradabad 3811. SHRI AZIZ IMAM : Will the containing allegations of anti-national activi­ Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : ties during the Indo-Pak war.

(a) whether the Railway Officers are (b) One of the complaints related to the permitted to use the Inspection carriages for closure of a Canteen for Jawans at Morada­ temporary residential purposes without pay* bad Railway Station and the other regarding raent of any charges, when Railway Rest delay in running of a Military special; the House facilities exist at Allahabad Station; mutter is under investigation.

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; Trade in Films with Bangla Desh

(c) whether as a result of the occupation 3813. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : of carriages by the Officers, lesser number of DR. RANEN SEN : inspections could be carried out during November, 1971 to January, 1972 than Will the Minister of FOREtGN TRADE during November, 1970 to January, 1971; be pleased to state : and (a) whether the question of trade in (d) if so, the loss suffered by Railways films between India and Bangia Desh has on this accou nt. been settled; efnd 65 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answera 66

(b) if so, the mam features thereof > Payment of Travelling Allowance to Employees Sent to Railway Training Schools THE DrPUI\ MlNl<-TLR IN 1 HI MINISTRY OF iORHGN 1 RADL (SHRI 381*' SIIRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI A C GLORGE) (a) and (b) fhe Trade Will the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased Agreement between India and Bangladesh to state provides for impoits from ind expoitsto Bangladesh oi film* not exceeding Rs 15 lakhs in v iluc eich w xy It h is be< n agreed (i) whether as per R-nlwiy Lstxblish between the two Ci mmmcnls that tiadc in mcnt Rule 331 liavelling Allowance is due Cinema films would bt h indlcd 1 y the Indi in to the Railway cmpl iyecs sent to Rulway Motion Pictures Fxport C orp< ration and the turning schools and if so the reasons why Film Dc\clopmcnt Coiporition of Bangla it is not paid to them desh (h) whcthet the Running Staff is also paid 50° of running allowance Upgradation of Posts of Electrical (c) whether officer are paid full Travel and Mechanical Maintainers ling Allowance at Railwa\ Ofiiccrs College on Northern Railway B u o d t and

381 t SHRI R A JD IO SINGH Will (d) if so the reasons for the discrimina­ the Minister of RAH WAYS be pleased to tion 1 state THF MINISTER OT RAILWAYS (SHRl K HANt MAN IHA1YA) (a) In terms of (a) whether tie instruction* contained in Rule 3 31(2) of the Inch in Railway I stablish Railway Bonds letter No PCf8TF 2/4 nient C ode Volume 1 R t iIw iv employees dated the 9th November, 1971 legirding undergome training in Railway Training the scale of p i> of 1 iLCtrit il and Mich inical Schools are entitled to dnw TA DA onlv maint uneis on R.tlwijs Inu been imple when they arc liot provided wi*h free messing mcnted on the Norlhein Railway in accordance with Rule 429 of the same Gode (b) if so, the totil numbei of posts upgraded uptill new on the Northern Rail­ way dtMSion wise ind (b) Running stiff attending training schools for rcfreshci and promotion courscs are paid in allowance in lieu ol mileage at (c) if not the ie isons theitfor and the the following rates time bj which instructions are likely to be implemented *> Foi shunters and Fire- 120 Kms per men on Shunting dav or part THE MINISTER OF RAILWAY S (SHRl I ngmes thereof K HANUMANTHAIYA) (■») No For other running staff 160 Kms per dav or pait thereof (b) Docs not arise Where free messing is provided, orlv half (c) Railway Board’s instructions con­ the mileage specified abo\e is credited to tained in their letter of 9 l i 71 have been them circulated by the Northern Rulwn adminis­ tration to Divisional SurcunUndcnts who (c) Probationaiy Officeis receiving train­ are reviewing the pos'tion with a m cw to ing m the Staft College, Baroda are not implementing the same Thej have been entitled to any TA/DA of free messing urged to ensuie implementation as early as Other officers attending Refresher of Special possible Courses arc either allowed free messinj or 67 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 68

daily allowance on a sliding scalc laid down (Figures in thousand kgs.) under Rule 331 (2) of the Indian Railways Countries 1970 1971 Establishment (’ode. Volume-1 according to their option. In case they opt for daily U. K. 98,877 71.339 allowance they will have to pay for the mess­ Arab Republic of Egypt 11,318 9,172 ing. Australia 3,710 3,062 West Germany 3,752 3,537 (d) An option has been allowed in the Netherlands 2,751 2,461 case of the officers as the expenditure on Sudan 12,902 12.474 messing has been fixed with reference to the daily allowance drawn by them in the lower grade only whereas in the case of non-ga/et- The Tea Board have been undertaking tcd staff, the expenditure on messing has intensive promotion of Indian tea m all been fixed v»ith reference to the daily these countries and have also been trying to allowance payable to the staff in various pay remove difficulties regarding transport, shipp­ groups. ing, etc.

*teT-*rg*T f?r $ Set-back In Tea Exports

3816. SHRI PAMPAN GOW DA: Will 3817. «ft affalT STTO : ^TT the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleas­ SRT% fT'TT f*F : ed to state :

(a) the mmes of the major world mar­ (^ ) sRsrrfTtfr % v m % kets where India tea export have suffered a % frPT -o iftoFr * it ‘jftsrTFT setback: and tfsrsft ifta?rr | t'ft fo

(b) the reasons and the extent of fall and the steps taken by Government in this regard ? (n ) §f, eft ^rr w cR? f w 3rpt*iT ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI («ft %o sg iw n ) : (*f) A. C. G E O R G E ): (a) and (b). Though the total exports of tea from India increased 3ft I fiom 208-4 million kgs. valued at Rs. 148 81 croics in 1970 to 212 6 million kgs. valued (®) 5t?»t ?r$r sscrr i Rs. 160-34 crores in 1971, an increase of 4*2 million kgs. valued at Rs. 1153 crores, there has been a decline in tea exports to a Take over of Mahalaxml Textile few countiies which may be attributed to Mill) Beawar demand and supply position, commercial fluctuation, lack of adequate and timely 3818. SHRI ISHAQUE SAMBHAL1 : shipping facility, etc. Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state:

The names of the importing countries to (a) whether Mahalaxmi Textile Mill, which exports of Indian tea have suffered a Beawar was taken over under “Relief Under­ set-back in the year 1971 as compared to the year 1970 arc U. K... Arab Republic of taking” ; Egypt and Australia. Marginal declinc was also recorded in respect of tea exports to (b) if so, when the Mill was taken over; West Germany, Netherlands and Sudan. and India's tea exports to these countries in the year 1971 are set out bejow ;— (c) whether the Milt has made profits 69 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 since it was taken over, and if so, the extent between 1950 51 and 1970-71, by 77 6% thereof ? respectively with less than proportionate increase in physical resources like engines, r u r D r p u t y m i n i s t i r in T H r wigon, and length of track Number of MINISTRY or TOR! IGN TRADI (SHRI engines md wigons required to mo\c one A C GrORGL) (a) and (b) If exercise million net tonne kilometres per day has of the powers conferred bj Section 18-A ot shown appreciable decrease It has also tht Industries (Development ind Regulation) been possible to reduce the number of acci­ Act, 195 J the Centnl Government took dents substantially, the incidence per million o\cr the mtnagetmnt of the Mthalakshmi tram kilometres hastng dropped from 54 1 Mills to Ltd Beawat on the 9th J muary, in 1951-52 to 10 6 m 1969 70 1967 (c) The various steps adopted to improve (c) No, Sir railway operations will be intensified to effect further lmptovcment Reform In Operation of Railways Efficacy of Domestic Process 1819 SHRTP VFNK.AT ASIJBBAIAH Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be plcistd ^820 SHRI I* VENKATASUBBA 1AH to state Will the Minister of 1 AW AND JUSI1CF he pie ised to slatt O) whether rcfoim in railwiv operations has been considered, (a) whether the percent ige of \otes polled in the current L lections to the St'ite (oj if so, with what results ind Assemblies w is onlv 5 5 per cent

(c) the steps proposed to be taken in (b) wh<.thei the absentee voters point to this dircc* ion > lack oi awareness ol the efiieiency of demo­ cratic process among the masses, and THE MINIS rrR or RAILWAYS (SHRI K HANb MANT11 AlYA) (a) (c) if so tK steps proposed to be taken Railways ha\e been continuously endeavour­ in the matter 9 ing to improve Railway opeiation by Nanous modem methods, like icplacmg steam trac­ THE MIN 1ST 1R OT SIATfc IN THE tion by faster diesel and electnc traction, MINISTRY Ot LAW AND JUSTICE introducing moie modem tvpes of wagons (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDHARY) with highei cariymg capacity, increased (a) The percentage of \otes polled m the trailing load per train with wagons fitted last general elections m 16 Slates and 2 with centte buffer couplers, modern methods Union Tcnitories held in March, 1972 was of signalling & telecommunication, which 59 57 as against 59 ^5 m 1967 «nsure greater speed and safety, like auto­ matic block signalling, route relay inter­ (b) Any inference to be drawn is a locking and panel interlocking, modernisa­ mattei of opinion tion of major marshalling >ards and application of modem management techni­ (c) Does not arise ques like work study and operations research in increasing degrees Quality of service has Imported Zinc Ingots and Slabs been improved by introduction of faster found missing from Wagons passenger trains, fast express goods trains at Meerut City Station connecting important cities, container service, Quick Transit Service, fieight forwarder/ 3821 SHRI BHARAT SINGH CHOW scheme etc HAN • Will the Minuter ol RAILWAYS be pleased to state (b) As a result of these steps, it has been possible to increase the quantum of passen­ (a) whether imported zinc ingots and ger kilometres and freight tonne Kilometres, slabs valuing Rs 55 000/- were found miss­ 71 Written Answers APRIL 25. 1972 Written Answers 72 ing from three wagons in the yard of Mcorut vfTsfV («rt fco : (^T) ft City Station in Fehruaiy, 1972; (* r). ^ i

(b) whether it was due to the connivancc or negligence of supervisory staff of R.P.F., (s ) *n?p> f«r®ft fr o faftt sm ark Meerut City; ?nd % 3T5^t ft tr?

% f^ rr fftvrff* g^TT^r f ^ n ^TT?TT | I (c) if so, the action proposed to be taken by Government in the mattei. fftsff fftqfara XtfX* W % THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ^T ^ c S r 3THT (SHRI K. HANUMAN7HAIYA) : (a) There was a case of shortage of 2S tin ingots 3823. «ft ^ *>?$sntr : WT valued at Rv 25,000-- approximately from a wagon booked fiom Sealdah to Meerut f«r%wr b i t w r ftift w ^ ttt Cantt. The wagon was noticcd with its one % : side door open in Mcciu' City Yard.

(^) rfV'TF' T?rr f far M t o (b) Enquiries are in prepress for fixing responsibility. ^rfr firfr ft ^ rn ?pt faqrM^T srpfr fawn htf ^«t €i t o (c) Does not arise I , w f f a «rgf ft ^ t ? t ^ |c r ^ iz n r r 3tt ^ V ft fsstff * g«rre

3822. f5T*$*rTT OTFlft : WT ( ^ ) v f e ?jf, ?fr ^ t o j ft s R ^ rF TO TOft *TT fTTr q?rft fa : qn ^?rr *STJfaT??r qrr faqiT I ?

(v) w r ^rfr *irtan % fesft srf?r fft&T StTTqfTT ^^CFPCr ft STC-ftsft ft s f ^ r ^ t«ft ft f ; («ft ^0 311^) : (^) flTsprc *FT

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ft # »rS t t o ( ? t ) stiff ?npr ^ 5 ?tt i f«TH TT qft ?T-=fV 'T’TT *T$ | arV ft i m spt q*ifcsrf w f t i « r r f ^ T w t ^?qT5R w i t o ^ f r f ; 3824. ¥To ?ris*ft sTrnq^r q ran : fin

(*r) *wrr w * ft ^rer-ftfftfr’ fft& T W?T*TTT m \ ? m f t ap«TT ^ ‘ft $ft I fa d?rft qr?ft fa?rm ft^ ctt t^ tt f a : | T O f r 2TT«T-F1T ft ^TcfT ?T ^ T ( W t Srtw) ft faRT

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(*t) mn «PTTg^ % «3r nm «rr THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K HANUMAN FHA1VA) (a) Yes, faqfa fW ^TTcTT | ? the Indian Railways are one of the parti­ cipants in the Third Asian International f?R5f wrrorc *r*ra«r *r Trade fair. (sft t$© *fto 3fm) : (ap) WTTfaw*ifl (b) Display of an an -conditioned dining

(b) Does not anse 3827. ftl«C fHTT : *TT fafcr am re i»qT v v t Indian Railways participation in Third % : Asian International Trade Fair (jf) fcwft i‘>72 n arr^r 3826 SHRl P. GANGADFB; Will ^ qfV the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to WTct 3TTT fopft ^if^T state : 4 tr (a) whether Indian Ratlwa>s will be one of the major participants in the I hird Asian (is) settttt *r fo^r ?w International Tiade Fair to be held in November, 1972 in New Delhi, srw qn sn^rrspn | ?

(b) whether, among the highlights of the exhibits, there will be an on-conditioned «Vo fliTsi) : ( v ) o t (»i) dining car, and 5®rrTTT s r a m r

(c) if so, the salient featuics of the sp ^ tt i m b ?r epm *r 4 t o s exhibits proposed to be put .up by Railways > % ^ <*rrfwr w r m 1 75 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 76

( 1 ) Jr«r *r s r w r 31 Electrification Programmes in Chhotanagpur (Bihar) in the year 1972-73, srjtw o t £rtfi, (b) whether Chhotanagpur is neglected (2) firesft gsrr *r srsw afk <*ra?*rcT in this tegard, and arnr ^13 vn* rtw V * ^ 3l?" m t , (c) if so, the reasons theicfor ?

( 3 ) 5m *r »TF?T ffTT ?r?ft t o TIIE DFPUTY MINIS ITR IN THE SF the Biluu Mate Electricity Boaid to the AguciiJtui.il Finance Corpo­ f ^ T R m pcctcd duimg 1972-73 I l u s schtm e j s under ihe (.onsidcrution of ^ *r*rurcr3iT ^t *mT i the Agncultuui! r mance Coiporation (5) ft *t ".p ^ftrariir*Ri <*w (b) and (c) Chhotanagpur has not srrr?r g m f a w % *n*rf a m ‘t ' f t ’ ^ r been ncglectcd jn icspect of Jinancial tn- ar> Ezrr^r^f^fr *f? >t4ttt ?ror %t *t vc>tments tor rural electrification The Bihar State Hectricit> Boaid ha* aheadv spent a fr^TT T’T JrV ^ ^PT #lf«?T sum of Rs lb lakhs up to 1970-71 for *r$*n«r % f a n *frnr =f rf^r t t <*T

#k 'w r fa*?TR t « t % irpffaret «re fa^TR 3R *T%*T, 3l\T 3820. ssft : (6 ) FT *T% *T STc75T aTFTR Trfafafa amqiT jf#r s r ^ «Ff t w ^ f * : fa?T?ft 5 T O 3PJ*TR %% TT *TmfcT « r ?rr ' m m -srr w m $ i ( ^ ) m jjxvtt s* vm tft zrm- f.in t *pt Financial Help for Rural Electrification Programme« in Chhotanagpur arg-fT it ir ^ «rrar | f w f o (Bihar) % g / p f ta mm *m r if mfav % W?, f^rflf^cr fam 3TT ?T% fa TT^- 3828 KUMARJ KAMLA KUMAR! ■ Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND JTT^rp't «ft ^ POWLR be pleased to state rrr^flr tfrn , aftr

(a) the amount which will be available ( ^ ) eft VTTcT fR ^TT W( I*T% from Financial institutions foi Rural srf

fror wnqrrc «r*T*ro % w n ft tonnes of manganese ore valued at approxi­ mately Rs 7 70 lakhs has been received by (s ft o to ) : (8p) 4t ft t Xis$- MMTC from South Korea This contract irtnr^qr fof* % srfrss srfsnPTfoft vt srtfa is under final i&auon sjita fffa % sr?cr?fcr y f t i t o 3?Tf«r«F *rg sn r Financial Assistance to Madhya *r fffifaft % frnj 'rre f , Pradesh for Inter-State Power 5-6 snfcr, 1972 apt 5f^T *r f 3TT «TTI «nTtT transmission Lines

E(Tt * ‘*r§*m V * tt % 3831 SHRl RANA BAHADUR f%jt qr^r ^ fcrfo* s n m f ^ qr SINGH Wi'l the Mimstei of IRRIGATION srr ^ ^ ir w & z r *r ^fr*rer AND POWER be pleased to state fsrr «tt i (a) whether the Central Government have given financial assistance to the (*?) STRcT ffTTR OT, H V* Madhya Pradesh Government to the tune of SFfTT % S F ifarft n *TT*7 ^1 % w n I | Rs 1 99 crores during 1971-72 foi the construction of Inter-State power trans mission lines and Export of Manganese Ore to South Korea (b) it so, the details regarding the lines for which financial assist incc has been 383 SHRl SlIRlklSHAN MODI provided ? Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADL be pleased to state 1HT DEPUTE MIMSTtR IN THE MINIS IR^ Or IRRIGATION AND (a) whethei India has received any order POWLR (SHRl B N KURFLL) (a) A for supply of manganese ore to South loan amounting to Rs 11177 lakhs has Korea been given as financial assistance to Madhya Ptadcsh Govcnment during 1971-72 bung (b) if so, the amount ol the order, and mg the total amount of Imaneial assistance given to the State to Rs 1 9927 crores for (e) whether my contract has been signed the construction of Inter State transmission in this regaid ? lines since 1962 70

rH b DfrPUTY MINISTIR IN THJ (b) The details of t na ual assistance MINISTRY OF FORI IGN TRADL given to Madh\a Pia»ksh Gov trim *.nt for (SHRI A C GfcORGfc) (a) to (c) Yes financing the Inter State ttansmission lines Sir An order for supply of about 4,500 since 1969-70 are given below

SI No Name of the line Loan sanctioned (Rs lakhs) 1969*70 1970-71 1971~72

1 Satpura-Ambazan, 220 Kv S/C line 25 00 62 *'0 24 00 2 Chandni Bhusavl, 132 Kv line (Stringing 2nd Circuit) — — 2 1 0 7 3 Rihand-Morwe-Amarkantak, 132 Kv line (Stringing 2nd Circuit) — - 65 20 4 Bodhghat-Bahmala 220 Kv S/C Ime — — 1 50 Total 25 00~ 62 50 11177 Grand Total 199 27 lakhs 79 f Vrttttn Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Wrltnn Answtrs so

w * \ mg wmrc trow % various developmental schemes is provided in the shape of block loans and grants aud me** & fafawf W «F> is not titd to any particular project or head H'9frf fam to t n w w of development. Therefore, there is no earma­ rked central assistance for flood control schemes and the Slate Governments have to 3832. *To «wft *rem «ri«*: tot provide the funds required to meet the expen­ farssr arm * anrr* € r frqr q rv t diture on flood control woiks. f a : The Government of Bihar have spent the following amounts on flood control woiks (*f) *jfa3r ?r«rr srnj sjtt'ttt f^r«T*r % during the last three yeais : - n-ar s> toT it f a ^ ^ *r ws; faf^r W tfr OTfwf faJTi; aft* 1969 70 ... Rs 224"S lakhs 1970—7 1 ... Rs 241 8 lakhs 1971—72 ... Rs. 200 S lakhs ( t f ) ^ c f % frm , f5£TR cT«TT (anticipated) ^Tfw?sr TOT I ? Approval for Pulivendala Channel fwgrr wmnr w^rwcr Sr Scheme in Guddapah District (sft ifo *fto 530^) : (*fr) 5ft *rgV l (Andhra Piadesh)

( j i ) snrc st^V ss? rr i 3834. SHRI Y. ESWARA RLDDY : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to slate . Allocations for Flood affected Areas in B ihar (a) whether the Planning Commission 3833. Shri N. E. HORO : Will the has given itb approval for statting ‘‘Puliven­ Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER dala Channel Stlit me”, Guddapah District, Andhra Pmdeslt; be pleased to state :

(a) the total amount earmarked for the (b) if so, whether the collection of ad­ vance bctlci incut levj on Ayacut-dars flood affected aieas in the Slate of Bihar imposed bv the State Government has been during 1971, and stopped and cancelled, and

(b) the amount spent b> the Central Government during the last thu-e years on (c) the financial assistance pioposed to be given for the scheme in chronic dtought flood control in Bihar. affected aieas and when the work is going to be started and its total estimate ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER iN THE MINISTRY OK IRRIGATION AND POWFR (SHRI B. N. kUREEL): (a) The 1 HE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND ceiling of e'< 5>enditure on relief measures and lestoration works in the areas affected by PAWER (SHRI B. N» KURFEL) : (a) Yes. floods it) Bihar m 1971, fixed on the basis of the recommeiu'ttions of Central Team is (b) No such intimation has so far been R.s. 46 3 crores. Against this, Rs. 20 crores jeceivcd from the Government of Andhra including a grant of Rs. 4 crores has been Pradesh. sanctioned to the Government of Bihar based on the progress of expenditure. (c) The Government of Andhra Pradesh are pioposing to start the woik on the pro­ (b) Flood control works from part of ject, estimated to cost Rs. 2*98 crores during the State Plans. Under the procedure evolved 1972-73. Central assistance to State Plans in the Fourth Five Year Plan, central assis­ is being given in the form of block loans tance to the Stale Governments foi their and grants and*is not i elated to any indivi* S t Written Answers VAISAKHA 3, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answert 82 dual sector or Project The Annual Plan Compensation Paid to Families Effected of Andbia Pradesh for 1972-71 is bj Submerged Area of ^ulandi Rs. J05 croies of which Ccntial assistance is Project in OriBsa Rs. 46 56 croics 1M7 SHRI KUMAR ViAlHI Will the Munster of IRRIGATION AND POWER Secular Adoption Code be pleased to stile

3835 SHRI M S SfVASAMY Will (a) whethei a laige numtm ot families the Ministu of LAW AND JUST K b be pleased to stale mostly adivasis have been di placed ds a result of the Salandi Project in the Keonjher District ot Orissa, (a) whether the attention ol Government has been diawn to a news repoit appedrmg in the Hindus ton Turns dated I he 29th (b) the l Uc of compensation i'lven to March 1972 under the caption ‘Secular llic taimiiics tor each aeie ot land which has adoption code, an immediate need”, and been aflected b\ the Protect,

(b) if so, the reaction of Government (c) the numbcj of families which have thereto ? not rccc’Hd any compensation so / lr and the time Government will u*ke to lmalise settlement of their claims and THL MlNlSTf R OF STATl IN THF MINIS1 RY OF LAW AND JUS11C L (SllRl NII1RAJ SINGH CTlAl'UHARY) (a) \e , (d) whethci casvS have been repisteied Sir against a targe nun hti of f u i'ics who wanted to acquire fcliow I md* foj tbeu settlement * (b) Steps are being taken for undertaking a comprehensive legislation on (he subject THE DI PI 1 \ M lM V llttO F IRRIGA­ Salandi Piojeet Estimates TION AND POWIR (MJRI B N KURLIl) (a) to (a) lnfumation is being collcctt 1 from the Stati Oovci mu nt and 3M6 SHRI KUMAR MAJH1 W'llthe will be hid on the Tjbl« ot t'ie IIou>e Mmistei of IRRIGATION AN D POW1 R be pleased to state Coffee Plantation St heme m Indhra (a) what were the initial plan estimates PradebK of Salandi project and what w is the ptobable time duimg which the said project wa> to be SHRI P N\RASiMHA Rl DDY completed, and Will the MiniMct of 1 OR1 k .N 1R YDt te pleased to st *t_ (b) when the pioiect was started and what amount has been spent on it so far 1 (a) wbuler an Scheme ro» Co*kc plan­ tation has been tiken up jr* Anohra Piadesh, «nd THL DEPUTY M1NJSILR IN T1IL MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND (b) il so, Hie pioguss tiiejvv.1 * POWER (SHRI B N KURLfcL) (a) and (b) The Salandi Piojcct approved m October, 1969 at an estimated cost of Rs +65 60 riii j)ii»un m i n i s u r in i i j l lakhs was expected to be completed m 1965 MINIS 1RYOI 1 ORl 1GN I R \Dl (SHRI The revised estimated cost of the scheme is A C G I O R G l) (a) \ es, Sir assessed R* 1427 68 lakh>, out of which about Rs. 1400 lakhs have been spent till (b> J lit 1 oic >t iK paithunt ol \ndhra now. The dam, ban age and main canal have Ptade'-h is cvccuting a eiun >, loi cultivation been completed. Only gate installation and of coflce m Visakapainai > *ntl 1 ast Godavau some of the wojks on distnbution s\stem Districts * incc 1960-ol 1 ik nica planted remain to be completed. • with eortce till 1971 eomt t» * J 229 acres. 83 Written Answer* APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 84

Another 2,025 acres arc proposed to be STC Chairman’s Tour to South America planted in the Chinthapally and Padcru areas during the period 1972-78 under an Expan­ 3841. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will sion Programme which, inter-alia, provides the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be for the rehabilitation of 600 families of pleased to state : Ceylon repatriates. (a) whether the Chairman of the State T rade Agreement w ith G. D. R. Trading Corporation went to South America on a fact-finding tour recently; and if so, the 3839. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY: amount spent on this tour; Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state : (b) whether he has submitted any report; aud (b) whether Government have signed recently any Trade agiccment with the (c) if so, the salient features of the German Democratic Republic; and leport ? (b) if so, the salient features thereof ? THE DEPUTY MINIS!FR IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE A. C. GEORGE) : (a) Yes, Sii. An expendi­ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI ture of Rs. 5,386.50 in foreign exchange A. C. GEORGE) : (a) and (b). A Trade and and Rs. 22,101/- in indian currency was Payments Piotoco), valid for a period of four incurred on the fact finding tour. years (1972-1975) was signed at Berlin on 11th November, 1971, between the Govern­ ment of India and the Government of the (b) Yes, Sir. German Democratic Republic. Copies of this Protocol are available in the Parliament (c) The following are the main recom­ Library, mendations made by the Chairman, STC in his tour report : Take over of Sick Textile Mills in Ghittoor District (i) that the New 'toik ollke of the STC should be made responsible 3840. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY: for development of trade between Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be India and South America; pleased to state : (ii) that a small trade delegation be (a) whether any representations havj sent to South America for detailed been received for the taking over of the Sick examination of the maiket; Textile Mills at Renigunta, near Tirupati in Chittoor District; and (iii) that the STC should be liberal in extending invitation to South Ameri­ (b) if so, the reaction of Government cans to visit india to see what India thereto ? makes;

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (iv) that a co-ordination Committee, MINIS IRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI which may be sponsored by the A. C. GEORGE) : (a) and fb). Representa­ STC, may be set up for active con­ tions praying for the take ovei of Tirupati sultation and co-oidinaiion amongst Cotton Mills Ltd. Renigunta, were received different Indian public sector agen* some time ago. An Investigation Committee cies-STC, MMTC, Engineers India, appointed under Industries (Development & Cotton Corporation, Shipping Cor­ Regulation) Act to make a full and complete poration and such public undertak­ investigation into the circumstanccs of the ings as arc interested in importing case has submitted its report which is being from and exporting to South examined. America; and 83 Written Answers VAISAKHA 3, 1*94 {SAKA) Written Answers 86

(v) that a small management group trade policy. The export promotion measures responsible for steering trade with include supply of imported raw material South America be set up in the through the icplcnishntcnt licences schemes, S. T. C. removal of capacity constraints, abolition or reduction of expoit duty, drawbacks of India’s Share in World Exports import and excise duties, etc.

3842. SHRI N. E. HORO : Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased % arta *rf to state :

(a) whether India's share in World’s ex­ 3843. aft TR WTcT W7 ®fT (b) if so, the factors responsible for the poor performance and the steps taken by Government to increase its share ? spTFt *rr aftr

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE («r) MINISTRY OF TORLIGN TRADL (SHRl A. C. GLORGE) : (a). Yes, Sir. (*ft %o : (®f) a f h STSTFJT (fPT (b) Both external and internal factors have contributed to the present position 1 1 m m f t ?r w v r % fo rr regarding India’s share of world trade. World zTTfrrsmr t o m | i demand for our major traditional exports is not growing fast enough foi certain icasons. Commodities like tea have been faced with ( ^ ) tffsTW % 'Tf™TTiT SrTcf the problems of slow growth of demand in ^ STC?TT* TT the importing countries, excess production faqr ^ m r i and low prices for the last many yeais. The exports of jute manufactures were affected by the growth of synthetic substitutes as well as V[ % qT?T fastff competition from erstwhile East Pakistan. Development of indigenous capacity in other developing countries as well as quota restric­ tions in developed countries have alfeeted ex­ 3844. wtareft *nf : w r ports of cotton textiles. On the domestic front, more recently there have been short­ 5TcfT% Wt fr

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Allotment of Out-hou»e* to Class in its final report, among other measures, IV Staff a t DJbasbad (a) fixing of periodicity for these drives, (b) fixing of the duration of the drives, 3850. SHRl RAMAVATAR SHASTRT: (c) sanction of additional staff, magistrates Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased and adequate publicity. It is proposed to to state : tackle this problem of ticketless travel by adjustment and re-deployment of existing (a) whether representations from Railway staff and not by additional staff. No recom­ Employees lia\c been received by the Ad­ mendation has been made about the ministration for allotment of Oul-houses creation of a cell as such. Drives are of Officers/Inspectors to class IV staff at proposed to be undertaken periodically as Dhanbad; and recommended and adequate publicity will be ensured. (b) the total number of out-houses occu­ pied at Dhanbad by Railway Staff and by Handing Over of Trisuli Project to out-siders ? Nepal

3852. SHRI NAWAL K1 SHORE THE M1NISTFR OF RAILWAYS SHARMA : Will the Minister of IRRI­ (SHRf K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) and GATION AND POWER be pleased to (b). The information is being collected and state : wili be laid on the Table of the Sabha.

Setting up of a Special Cell to Check (a) whether the Trisuli project by India Ticketless Travelling is proposed to be handed over to Nepal Government shoitly and if so, when; 38^1. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : SHRl MUHAMMED SHERIFF : (b) the estimated capacity of the project; and Will the Mtninstcr of RAILWAYS be pleased to slate : (c) whether some share of electricity generated by this project will be given to (a) whether a Committee appointed to India: and if so, the amount thereof ? suggest measures against ticketless travel has recommended to Government to set up THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE a Special Cell to cheek this problem in MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND co-operation with the State Governments on POWER (SHRI B. N. KURE1X) : (a) Yes, diffeient zones of Railways; and Sir. The Trisuli Hydro-Flectric Project is proposed to be handed over to His Majesty’s (b) if s.o, the main features of the Government of Nepal after the construction suggestion made by the Committee in the of the desilting basin is completed which matter and whether Government have taken will take two working seasons for comple­ any final decision thereon ? tion.

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) The project has an installed generat­ (SHRl K. HANUMANTHAIYA) ; (a) and ing capacity of 21 MW. (b). No Committee was appointed to suggest measures against ticketless travel. However, (c) No, Sir. a Joint Committee consisting of officials of Railway and State Government of Haryana Transit Facility to Nepal to Tirade was formed under the guidance of Minister, with Bangla Desh Railways and Chief Minister, Haryana to take measures to combat the evil of ticket- 3853. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE less travel in the State of Haryana. This SHARMA : Will the Minister of FOREIGN Committee launched a drive against ticketless TRADE be pleased to state ; travel for 2£ months commencing from November, ’71 in Haryana and recommended. (a) whether India has granted transit 93 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5. 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 facility to Nepal to have trade with Bangla (b) and (c). Do not arise. Desh via Radhikapur; Attaching m ore A. C. C. Coaches to (b) if so, whether the facility has been T rains given on a special request made by the Nepal Government or is in pursuance of Indo-Nepal trade agreement reached last 3855. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE August; and SHARMA : Will the Minister of RAIL­ WAYS be pleased to state : (c) the extent to which India will be benefited by providing this facility to Nepal ? (a) whether more A. C. C. coaches are being added to the trains on the various THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Railways; MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI A. C. GLORGF) • (a). To meet the immediate needs of Bangladesh for price (b) if so, the number of such coaches and similar supplies, the Government of added to the trains I ist year and the /ones India has expressed its willingness to facili­ served by the trains; and tate, through mutually acceptable ad hoc anangements, tiade between Nepal and Bangladesh. (c) whether it is being done on a perma­ nent basis or on temporary basis and if on temporary basis, the reasons therefor ? (b) and (c). The question of providing overland routes for Nepal to develop and diveisify her trade is a separate issue. It is THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS the understanding between India and Nepal, (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a) to at the time of signing the Treaty of Trade (c). One fully An-conditioned coach is and Transit last year, that such overland pioposed to be introduce between Scildah routes would be provided through regional and New Jalpaiguri by 4 3'44 Darjeeling or subregional cooperation agreements when Mail on Eastern and Noithcast Frontier mutually satisfactory trade and transit Railways from 1-6-1972 as an experiment.*! arrangements take place between India and measure. During the last year, the following the icgional member countries concerned. services were intioduced ;

Bifurcation of Export and Import (i) One A. C. coach between Delhi function» of S T. C. and Allahabad of live days a week, by J1 U p/12 Dn. Howiah-Delhi 3854. SHRl NAWAL K1SHORE txpiess over Northern Railway as SHARMA : Will the Minister of FOREIGN a regular measure. TRADE be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal under (li) One bi-weckly A. C. coach between the consideration of Government to bifurcate New Delhi and Hyderabad by the export and import functions of the Stale 21 Dn/22 Up Express as an Trading Corporation of India; experimental measure during sum­ mer months on Northern, Central (b) if so, an outline therof and the and South Central Railways. advantages thereof; and (iii) The frequency of tri-weekly A. C. (c) the time by which the decision coach between New Delhi and thereon is expected to be taken ? by 59 Up/60 Dn. Sringar Express over Northern THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Railway was increased to daily from MINISTRY OF FOREIGN JRADE (SHRI 3.2.72 to 31.3.72 to cicar extra A. C GEORGE) : (a) No, Sir. rush. 95 Written Answer* APRIL 25. 1972 Written Answers 96

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(*?) zfT^nrr *rsr Board of Irrigation and Power uptil now in the work connected with the research scheme ?fap F f t e f a Sr ? on Power as applied, to 20 Irrigation and Power Research Stations in the country; and f^rsnf aftr fr o a 3 (sft : (*p) sft, I (b) when the results obtained are going 1971 *T I to be translated into practical reality ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (sr) Tfefmr

(b) Does not arise. (a) whether an appraisal has been made recently regarding the electrical power (c) Does not arise. industry in the country;

Research Scheme on Power (b) if so, its highlights;

3860. SHRI V. MAY AVAN : Will the (c) the regions and States which have Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER suffered acute shortages and those which are be pleased to state : not able to find immediate use for their surplus power together with the reasons (a) the progress made By the Central therefor; and 99 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 100

(d) the solutions that are being thought Pradesh in Western Region and Kerala and of to overcome the imbalance ? Mysore in the Southern region. All the surplus power available is being utilised in THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the neighbouring systems subject to load MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND requirements and transmission capacity POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) Yes. Sir. An appraisal of power demands and (d) A plan for power development power availability, regionwise and statewise (generation) has been drawn up for the up to the year 1974-75 has been made by decade 1971-81 by the Ministry of Irriga­ the Seventh Annual Power Survey Com­ tion and Power wherein the need to remove mittee. regional imbalances in powei development has been kept in view while indcntifying projects for implementation A massive pro­ (b) The survey envisages that the All gramme for interstate transmission lines India Peak demand for power of about 10 8 and load despatch facilities is also proposed million kw at the end of 1970-71 will rise to about 17-7 million K.W at the end of for ensuring full utilisation of the generation facilities becoming available. 1974-75. The margin of the generating capa­ city available over the peak loads would decrease towards the end of the Fourth Plan Supply of Power to Gujarat and then start increasing as the proposals for accelerated power development take effect. 3862. SHRI D. P. JADE IA : SHRI VEKARIA :

(c) During 1970-71, acute power shor­ tages were experienced mainly in the Will the Minister of IRRIGATION Northern Region in the States of P u n ja b , AND POWFR be pleased to state : Haryana Uttar Pradesh and A Kashmir. Outs on consumption of energy (a) the progress made in the supply of were imposed in Haryana and Punjab. The power in Gujarat for use by mdustnes and power position Jn the country in 1970-71 agricultuic during the last two ycais; and was satisfactory except for some load shed­ ding done in Tamil Nadu mainly due to (b) whether any assessment of the total inadequate availability of lignite in Neyveli need of Gujarat to meet the demand at pre­ Power Station. sent and during the next two years has been made ?

During 1971*72, load shedding and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE energy cuts have been imposed in Gujaiat MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND and Maharashtra in the Western Region POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) The mainly due to forced outages of generating consumption of electric energy by industries units at Tarapur Nuclear Power Station and in Gujarat increased from 2,222 million KWh to accrtain extent those at the Nasik Thermal at the end of 1968-69 to 2,711 million KWh Station. In the Southern Region, substantial at the end of 1970-71; the consumption by load shedding has been resorted to in agricultural sector rose from 335 million Andhra Pradesh mainly due to low water KWh to 405 million KWh during the same conditions in Machkund reservoir and reduc­ period. tion in the generation of power at Neyveli much below the normal schedule. The power supply position in Southern Orissa has also (b) Yes, Sir. The unrestricted peak de­ deteriorated due to low water conditions at mands in Gujarat at present and during 1972- Machkund resulting in voluntary cuts on 73 and 1973-74 have been assessed at 800 industries. There has been some load shed* MW, 950 MW and 1100 MW respectively by ding in Tamil Nadu chiefly due to reduction the 7th Annual Power Survey. It will be of power generation at Neyveli on account necessary to have an installed capacity of of labour trouble. The power supply position 1040 MW, 1230 MW and 1440 MW respec­ in Punjab and Uttar Pradesh in the Northern tively. Against these requirements, the Region is also unsatisfactory. At present, installed capacities likely to be available are some surplus power is available in Madhya respectively 880 MW (200 MW from 101 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

Tarapore not available now), 1162 MW and Supply of Wagons to Salt Manufac* 1349 MW. turers of Gujarat

3864. SHRI D. P. JADEJA : Will the Extension of Transmission Lines Minister of RAILWAYS be pfeised to state : in Villages in Gnjarat

(a) whether complaints about irregular 3863. SHRI D. P. JADFJA : Will the supply of wagons have been tectived from the Minister of IRRIGATION AND salt manufacturers in Gujarat; and POWER be pleased to state : (b) if so, the action taken by the Rail­ (a) whether the Rural Electrification ways in the matter ? Corporation has approved projects for extension of transmission lines in villages; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS and (SHRI K. HANUMAN THAIYA) : (a). Yes. (b) the number of villages in Gujarat where electricity has been provided so far (b) Consistent with the commitments of and where electricity will be provided during the railways to move higher priority traffic the current year ? preferentially, eveiy effort is being made to clear traffic in salt as expeditiously as possible. During the jear 1971-72, 31,569 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Broad gauge and 40,474 Metie gauge MINISTRY Oh' IRRIGATION AND wagons were loaded with salt from stations POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a). Com­ in Gujarat. ponents of cost of tural electrification pro* jects generally eligible for financial assistance New head Quarters of Chief Electrical from the Rural Electrification Corporation Engineer for electrification are extension of the transmission system Projects (South Central from the sub-station to the distribution trans­ Railway) formers, step-down from 11 KV, extension of the distribution lines to consumption 3865. SHRI S. B. GIRl : Will the points and service connections to pumpsets/ Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to tubewells. In respect of those States state : Electricity Boards where the progress of rural electrification is below the all India average (Assam, Bihar, Madhaya Pradesh (a) whether a major portion of Electri­ Rajasthan, Orissa, West Bengal and Uttar fication Project from Madras to Vijayawada Pradesh) the Corporation have introduced a lies in South Central Zone; special scheme of providing loan assistance for extension of high tension transmission

Construction of an Under Bridge at (^r) SPR ST^r I Level Crossing between Bhima- dolu and Sftampet Railway Circular/Tube Railway for Stations (South Central Ahmedabad Railway) 3868. SHRI VEKARIA : Will the 3866. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA : Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased state : to state :

(a) whether the West Godawari Co­ (a) whether Government propose to operative Sugars Limited has requested the make survey for a circular/tube Railways for Railway Administration to construct an the city of Ahmedabad; and under-bridge at the level crossing in between Bhimadolu and Sitampet Railway Stations (b) if so, the salient features of the in Vijayavada Division of South Central proposal ? Railway on the trunk road from Madras to Calcutta; ard THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a). There (b) if jo , ihe action taken thereon ? is no proposal aL present.

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) Docs not arise. (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Yes. Attaching Third Class Sleeper (b) The proposals for replacement of Coach to Ahmedabad Mail/ existing busy level crossings by Road over/ Express under bridges are to be sponsored by the State Government/Road Authority together with an undci taking to bear their share of 3869. SHRI VFKAR1A : Will the cost. The Government of Andhra Pradesh Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to have not so far sponsored the above propo­ state : sal. Action can be taken by the Railway only if such a proposal is sponsored by the State Government. (a) whether no third class sleeper coach from Delhi to Saumhtra is attached A'lth Ahmedabad Mail/Express; ariifT ^<3%

gsr wtt (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and

3867. TTOT5FT (c) whether Government have any proposal under consideration in this regard ?

(sp) srt THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS tn > f?*nT srfsnr (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a). Yes. o t Fc fiPTfar vlrsrTf 8 f tr (b) For want of room on 1 Up/2 Dn. Delhi-Ahmedabad Mail. ( m ) trfa $f, eft ^ «frsr frt $ (c) With the dieselisation of 1 Up/2 Dn sn^TT ? Delhi Ahmedabad Mail from 1-5-1972, it is proposed to introduce one III Class w x t (sft % 0 : ( v ) 2-tier sleeper coach between Delhi and I Okha, 103 Wrlu$n Answtn VAISAKHA 3, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 106

Project Report on Irrigation Schemes irrigation schemes in Gujarat State have been in G ujarat received; and (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? 3870. SHRI VEKARIA : Will the Mini­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ster of IRRIGATION AND POWER be MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND pleased to state : POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) and (b). The following new projects have already (a) whether project reports on various been sanctioned in Gujarat during the Fourth Plan :

Name of project Estimated cost Benefits (Rs. in lakhs) (acrcs)

1 . Sabarmati reservoir 1,758*56 91,000 2. Bajajsagar 1,765-83 Linder Mahi Project 3. Panam 684-78 54,670 4. Madhuvanti Irrigation Scheme 51-81 5,297 5. Jhanjeswari Irrigation Scheme 65-72 4,130 6 . Dhari Irrigation Scheme 38*86 2,000 7. Kharicut Canal System 27-41 10,200

The State Government have also proposed the following new projects, which are under technical examination :

Name of Project Estimated cost Benefits (Rs. in lakhs) (acres)

1 . t>amanganga 1,738-76 1,15,000 2 . Sipu 594-66 62.500 3. Kalindri 4 6 3 1 3,900 4. Phophal 165-53 1 0 , 0 0 0 5. Datarwadi 108-22 6 , 1 0 0 6 . Bhadar 417-29 42,400 7. Bagad 74-66 3,800 8 . Nara 77 97 2,700 9. Moj Dam 54-89 13,500 10. Sorthi 65'72 4,600 1 1 . W atrak 295-65 36,000 12. Chhaparwadi Schcme 149-57 9,300 13. Machhan Nala Scheme 89 03 8,600

Unirrigated Land in Rajasthan (c) the amount of Central loans and grant to be given for the same ? 3871. SHRIMATI KRISHNA KUMA- RI : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE AND POWER be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND (a) the total acreage of land without POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) to (c). irrigation facilities in Rajasthan at present; The total cropped area in Rajasthan is about 143 lakh hectares of which, at present, about (b) how much of that is proposed to be 25-6 lakh hectares are provided with irriga­ provided with irrigation facilities during the tion facilities under major, medium and Fourth Plan; and minor irrigation. This area is expected to 1 0 7 Written Antwert APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 1 0 1 increase to 27 lakh hectares at the end of rence has been received for opening of this the Fourth Plan. line for commercial traffic.

Central assistance to State Plans is in (b) The capacity on this line is just the form of block loans and grants and is sufficient for movement of export ore traffic not related to any sector or project. The for which it was primarily built. The section Fourth Plan outlay of Rajasthan is Rs. 302 is also being electrified. Works connected crores out of which central assistance is with electrification will, for the time being, Rs. 2 2 0 crores. further denude the capacity. As a result, opening of this line for commercial traffic In addition, Spccial Central assistance of has not been found feasible. However, South Rs. 6 2 crores was also given to the Govern- Eastern Railway has been directed to conduct mcnt of Rajasthan to accclcrate the works an immediate survey for optimising the capa­ on Rajasthan Canal Project during the last city of the Bailadila-Kotabalasa line. three years. Export Performance of Public Introduction of Passenger Train on Sector Projects Bailadila-Kotabalasa Section on South Eastern Railway 3873. SHR] D. K. PANDA : Will the Minister of 1'ORHGN TRADE be pleased to state : 3872. SHRl D. K. PANDA : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (a) whether Government have made an appraisal with regard to the export perfor­ (a) whether the Central Government mance of each of the public sector projects have been approached by the Orissa Govern­ during 1969-70, 1970-71 and 1971-72; and ment with a suggestion to introduce com­ mercial goods traflic and passenger traffic on (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? the Bailadila-Kotabalasa section of the South Eastern Railway; and Tin: DEPUTY MINlSTfcR IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI (b) if so, the reaction of Government A. C. GEORGE) : (a) and (b). A continuous thereto ? appraisal is made of the export performance of public secioi agencies mainly engaged on T1IL MIN IS I HR OF RAILWAYS (SHRl exports fiom the country. Their role in the K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Yes. A refe­ export trade is being progressively increased as will be seen from the following statistics :

Exports during 1969-70' 197CI-71 1971-72 (estimated)

(in crores of Rs.) 1. Minerals ;wd Metals Trading 91 i 05 97 Corporation 2. State Trading Corporation 55 71 73 (including Projects Equip­ ment Corporation) 3. Handicrafts and Handlooms 2 24 3*51 4-30 Exports Corporation 4. Indian Motion Pictures Ex­ 032 0*47 060 port Corporation 5. Cashew Corporation 0 2 2 1 0 9 Wrlttm Antwtrt VAJSAKHA S, 1194 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 1 0

Vaehhaghat and Jarau Harabhangi Western KosI Canal Project Project R eport 3876 SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA • 1874 SHRI D K PANDA Will the Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Minuter of IRRIGATION AND POWER POWER be pleased to state to refer to the be pleased to slate reply given to Starred Question No 15 on the 14 Mareh, 1972 regarding Progress of (a) whether \achhaghat Piojcct Report Western Kosi Canal Project and state and Jarau Harabhangt Project Report have been received by the Central Water and (a) whether the Union Government Power Commission, and have had anv consultations with the newly elected Government of Bihar for early execu­ (b) whether tht work will be taken up tion of th s project, during the current year 9 (b) if so, the results thereof, and TIIL DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND (c) wnether the Union Government have POWrR (SHRI B N K.URLI L) (a) and undertaken the responsibility oi financing (b) The Jarau Harbhangi Proje t has been this project in the Nepalese territory f revived and examined by the Central Water and Power Commission Replies to some THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE comments of the Central Watei and Power MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND Comnu sion arc awaited from the State POWER (SHRI B N KURLFI) (a) Yes Govunment Its implementation can be taken up oi ly after the replies are received from (b) and (e) The Government of Bihar the State Government and the project is con­ are also anxious about earlj implementations sidered by the Planning Commissiem No of the project and have requested some spe­ proposal loi the Vaehhaghat Project have cial Centra] assistance outside the State Plan been received from the Government of framework for the works in the iirst 2 2 Orissa miles on the canal The possibility of provi­ ding such special assistance is being looked Proposal for re-organisation of into Legal System Reciprocal Arrangement for Export of Indian Films to America *875 SilRI BIIOGl NDRA JHA Wil] the Mmistci of I AW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state 3877 SHRIB K DASCHOWDHURY SHRI MUHAMMED SHERIFF.

(a) whether there is any proposal to Will the Minister of TORE1GN TRADE reorganise the legal wstem to make the same be pleased to state cheaper and expeditious and (a) whether Government have taken any (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? stpcpsto work out a recipiocal arrangement for the export of Indian films to America THE MlNlSItR OF STATF IN THF and import of American films to India, and MINISTRY OF LAW AND 1USTICE (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDHRY) (b) if so, an outline thereof 7 (a) and (b) No, Sir THI DIPUTY MINISTER IN THE There is no proposal to re-organise the MINISTRY OF FORFIGN TRADE (SHRI legal system However the Code of Civil A C GtORGE) ( . 0 and (bl The Agree­ Procedure, 1908 has been referred to the ment with the Motion Pictures Lxport Asso­ law Commission foi re-examination from ciation of Amenta for the import of Ameri­ the baic angle of minimising costs and avoi­ can films expued on 30 6 1971 and has not ding delays in litigation been renewed Alternative arrangements for i l l Written Answer* APRIL 25, 1971 Written Answers U 2 the canalisation ot the import through S T 0 (c) whether a plea has been made that on the basis of ret iprocity, to the extent there should be an immediate reduction in possible are being worked out excise duty to boost up the industiy and if so, the reaction of Government in this regaid 7 Textile Mills gone into liquidation THl DbPUTY MINJSILR IN THE MINISTRY OF I ORHGN IRADF (SHRI *87*- SHRI P k Dro VI III the A C CFORCit) (a) to (t) Yes, Sir The Minister of tORt ION IRAPI he plciscd pioblems of the tea mdustr> all over India to state including Assam relate to increasing costs, declining piohtabilny and incidence of excise (a) the number of textile nulls which dut> Ihese die under constant leview by have gone into liquidation dunng the list Govei nment two years, Total ban on import of Cotton (b) the lotdi investment ol public money in these textile mills and 1880 SHRI P k DIO S1 1 R 1 MUHAMMI l> SlirRlFF (e) how Government piopose to le a n e r its money fiom the closed mills ’ Will the Mmisiei ot IORL1GN 1RADL be pleased to state Till 1)1 FI) IT MINIS 11 R IN THF MINISTRY Or lORLIGN TRADL (S11R1 (a) whether some suggestions have been A C GIOKGf) fa) to (c) rhc information made to Government lorniall) and informal!) is bcim* collected and will be laid on the for imposing total ban on the impoit ol Table ol the House cotton

Problems in Assam Tea Gardens (b) whether Government have studied these suggestions and if so the reaction of Government in thi> regard, and 3879 SHRI P K DLO Will the Minister of f ORHGN TR ADI he pleased to state (O the quantitv and value of cotton impoitcd dunng the last thiec veus *

(i) whethci Assam tea gaidtns aie facing a number of problems THI DIPUIY MINIS If R IN THE- M1N1S1RY 01 I ORLIGN TRADF (SHRI A C GI ORGl) (a) Vcs, Sir (b) whether these problcm> have bem brought to the notice of Government and if (b) Cotton imports are regulated taking so, an outline thereof and the reaction of into consideration the total availability and Government in this regard and icijutrements Total ban on import for various reasons will not be feasible (c)

(September— August)

1968 69 70 197 0 -7 1 Qty Value Qty Value Qty Value lakh m Rs lakh m Rs lakh m Rs bales bales bales crores croits crores

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%? t r t Tt s tnvel ilami chain ^frrr tsr% «r «rr^T fsr^r pulling, thefts and pilltragts on Railways and s o ? ^ ^ srF R g T « ? r c ^

^ % STPfEJ?V SrPTRTT T T 3TTf^T^ (b) if so, the main fcatuus thereof f ^ ?t ?rr arfasr

Investment In Foreign Countries by (c) if so, the reaction of Indian Govern­ Indian Industries ment thereto ?

3886 SHRI RANA BAHADUR THF D1PUIY MINISTER IN THE SINGH MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADI (SHRI SHRI VAYALAR RAVI A C GEORGI) (a) A statement showing (he names of Indian industrialists who Will the Minister ol FORLIGN TRADL have set up 29 plants and lactones outside be pleased to state the countiy and which have gone into pro­ duction, is enclosed In addition there arc (a) the names ol Indian industnahsts 67 other |oint ventures which have been who have invested capital abioad and set up appioved by the Government and aie in plants und lactones outside the country, vatious stages ol implementation (b) whether the Indian industrialists art building up huge bank balances in foreign (b) No, Su countries instead of repatriating the profits to India, and (e) Do not arise

Statement

Field ol Collaboialien Name ol Indian Collaborator

1 2

ETHIOPIA 1 Textile Mill M/S Bnla Bros (P) Ltd , Calcutta 2 Soap Factory M/S Bombay Soap 1 actory Bombay 1 Woelcn lextile Mill M/S Duncan Bros & Co Calcutta K1 NYA 4 Textile Mill S11RI R M Goculdas Bombjy 5 Gupc Watei PI uit MS K 1 Dongrt&Co (P) Ltd Bombay 6 Woollen Textile Mill M S Ravmond Woollen Mills Ltd Boim 'w 7 I ight l» gg ( ompltx M S H L Malhotiu

1 2 3

MALAYSIA 19 Manf of steel furniture M/S Godrej & Boyce Mfg Co , Bombay 2 0 Confectionery unit M/S Parrys Confectionaiy I td , Madras 2 1 Piecision tools A guage mfg unit M/S Gupla Machine Tools (P) 1 td , Calcutta 2 2 Textile Mill M/S Birla Bros (P) 1 td , C alcutta SINGAPORE 23 Automobile accessories M/S Teksom (P) i td , Bombay THAILAND , 24 Synthetic fibre Spinning Plant M/S Birla Bros (P) Ltd , Calcutta IRLLAND 25 Manf of tufted carpet yarn M/S Mafatlal Gagalbhai, Bombay U K 26 Asbestos Cement Products plant M S. Brla Bro*> (P) Ltd , Calcutta CANADA 37 Hard board fauoiy M/S Anil Hardboaids 1 »d , Bombay WEST GERMANY 28 Manf of oil T ngines Rice- milling machines ctc M/S Kirloskar Oil I ngincb, Poona 29 Manf of hose clips Shn N knshnan Bangaloic

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faS * T> ^WTf?T??T 3^T the supplv store:, and the stations in Kerala aflects operational efficiency of Railways in ^ n fa ^ T % fa*?fa * arffc the State,

3S8Q. sto ?r^Tmtn>i qrttr: ttt (b) whether there is any proposal to fa*5T SITTOTT *sff W Tt TT*T open a Stores Depot m Kerala, and if so, an outline of the proposal, and fT m ^q'f q fir^T Tt £faT?*T, TPT-

^feT~*T ? fasfa IT f w r t (c) what is the general critcnan adopted srffT5r?r t t »fir ? i P ? for the location of general Stores Depots

fat*T ttTHTTT * 3ra-*T3ft («ft Till MIN1STT R Oh RAILWAYS tfo *fto 3fT^) : ‘WFTTKl *f(% ^ STTat (SHRI K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) No (b) No

(q & t ? m *t) (c) I he general criteria adopted for location of Geneial Stores Depots are fcrcfar

f^w H t ¥ t * (i) their pioxtmity to the bases of TflT Tt SfaSRTrn’ supply ,

1968-69 129 (11) availab ht> of transport facilities 1969-70 163 26 srftrcrcr to the aieas catered b> the Depot, and 1970-71 171 5 srfa-^rcr (in) central situation of the Depot m Distance between Store Depots and relation to the various consuming Railway Stations (Southern points Railway) are m w i f f c ^ t 3890. SHRl VAYALAR RAVI • Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to ^sr%) if

(a) whether the long distance between ( t ) wr fvfoRsr ter* amerm 123 Written Answer* APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 124

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(sr) STR ?T^ ^5^ I ( t ) * r n ^ tr T T ^ sr * f t er«TT fK TfoTPTST t* T * 5=TT^ T t T f * t 3 ft* Draft Report!) on Ten Sub-Zonea of ifttftjT ffcspft % vrfamr T ?^* ITT* Homogeneone Hydrological and TO tt mtoT ^ *Td>, aft* Meteorological Characteristics

3898 SHRI R P ULAGANAMBl (< 9 ) ?rfa |TT, m 5*T% TTT TT*^T fc, Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND aft* irrfazfr t t * t r t ^ a m w § t POWER be pleased to state 5rr*?Tr? (a) how many diaft reports regarding the ten sub-zones of homogeneous* hydio- fcr *f?ft («ft fco 5f**a*n) . ( t ) logical and meteorological characteristics sft* (sr). s*r w r T?

(b) when the remaining draft reports proposed to be adopted m the case of are likely to be finalised reports foi the various sub-zones

(c) when the analysis of data pertaining Schemes sanctioned by R. E. C. to the remaining 17 sub-zones is progia- in States mmed to be done, and 1899 SHRI R P ULAGANAMB1 . (d) what action is proposed to be taken Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND on the finalised reports 9 POWER be pleased Jo state

(a) the Slate-wise break-up of 88 THF DF PUTY MJNIST1R IN THl schemes of the State Flectricity Boards MINISTRY OF IRRJGAIION AND sanctioned by the Rural Fleetrification POWrR (SHRI B N KURTH) (a) to Corporation and

Statem ent

State-wise abstract of schemes sanctioned by Rural Electrification Corporation as on 11st March, 1972

(Rs. in lakhs)

SI. Total No. Number of Number of Loan No Name of State of Schemes villages pumpsets assistance

1 2 3 4 5 6

1 . Andhra Pradesh 15* 1012 29678 1202 900 2 Assam 4 432 245 330 723 3 Bihar 16 1930 - 26492 921*850 129 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

1 2 3 4 5 o

4. Gujarat 13* 661 21412 792 138 5 Haryana 10 618 12263 5 19 640 6 Himachal Pradesh 3 332 263 97 883 7 Kerala 8 246 5046 358 676 8 Madhya Pradesh 16 759 37051 853 946 9 Mysore 12* 760 14015 713 993 10 Maharashtia 17* 1717 30201 1408 7S8 11 Meghalaya , , 1 32 3* 24 455 12 Onssa 1 1 1059 16826 **05 637 13 Punjab 14 1789 19630 773 649 14 R m sth an . 16 1010 22538 859 406 15 Jamil Nadu 12 1549 30575 812 672 16 Uttar Pradesh 27* 3476 26059 1956 439 17 West Bengal 16 3387 12784 1186 679

Grand 1 otal 211 19769 1 0 5 n i 13139 444

♦Includes one schcme of Rural 1 Icctnc Cooperative

Implementation of Pay Scales for (b) if so whether it is also paid on other Pharmacists in Indian Railways, and R ailw ays (c) whether T A is also paid to them 1900 SHRI RAJDI'O SINGH Will along with cash witness allowance > the Mimstci of RAILWAYS he pleased to state THH MINIS ITR Or RAILWAYS (SHRI K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) Yes (a) whether the recommendations of the Sub C onumttce appointed to look into the (b) No icvisiou of pay stales and to widen the than in. S of promotions for Pharmacists on (c) No the Indian Railways have been implemented, and Representation from Class 111 Staff Regarding Uniforms (b) the cflcct of its implementation (Northern Railway) Division wise on all Indian Railways '>

1HI MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 3902 SHRI RAJDrO SINGH Will the Minister ot RAILWAYS be pleased to (SHRI k HANUMANTHAIYA) . (a) and state (b) Inclination is being coilcctcd from the R ailw ay ind will b elaid on the T ableoi the Sabhi (a) whethei in the last winter, Northern Railway have supplied uniforms of very inferior t>pe to class III staff, G a s h Witness Allowance to Station Mai>tn» and Assistant Station Masters (b) whether there was any representation received from the staff against the Purchasing 3901 SHRI RAJDEO SINGH Will and Stoic Branch m regaid to the said the Mimstci of RAILWAYS be pleased to uniform, and state : (c) if so, the action taken thereon 0 (a) wlidln.1 Cash Witness allowance is paid to Station Mastcis and Assistant Station THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Masteis ol Southern Railway; (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) No. 131 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 132

(b) Yes. Railway Wagons for despatch of Goal

(c) The representation was mainly in 3904. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : respect of quality of uniforms and uniforms SHRI P. GANGADEB : not fitting properly. On investigation it was Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be found that the impression of inferior quality pleased to state : was due to Serge cloth ot indigenous wool with some admixture of Nylon having been (a) whether Railway authorities have supplied by Director of Textiles, Bombay, not been in a position to solve the problem as permitted in the latest Indian Standard of shortage of Railway Wagons for the Specification. In the specification it has despatch of coal; and been mentioned that use of Nylon up to 15% is permitted as import of wool has been banned and that admixture of Nylon (b; if so, the reasons therefor and the is due to indigenous wool neither being soft steps taken in this regard ? nor having the required strength. However, the matter is being looked into to see if any THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS improvement is possible. As regards (SHRI K. HANIJM \NTHA1YA) : (a) and misfit garments it was found that it was due (b). No, Sir. Coal loading which suffered a to incorrcct indenting of sires of uniforms. set back since Scptembci 1970 due to the dis­ Suitable instructions have been issued to locations in the Eastern Sector serving the the Divisional officers to ensure that sizes West Bengal-Bihar fields on account of the appropriate to the measurements of the various anti-social activities followed by employees arc indented to avoid misfu. floods, rains, breaches, heavy, movements of foodgrains for refugees and Defence moves etc. has started looking up again since the Decision on Report of Uniforms middle of January’ 72, as would be noticed Com mittee from the figures given below : —

Daily Average number of 3903. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : wagons loaded SHRI CIIANDRIKA PRASAD : Month 1971 1972

Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be January 7512 7993 pleased to refer to the reply given to February 7490 6138 Unstarred Question No. 1269 on the 4th March 7694 8337 Angust, 1970 regarding action on report of Uniforms Committee rc : supply of uniform," Loading in March '72 was better than and state : the level achieved even in 1969-70, when the consumer demands of coal were met in (a) whether the recommendations of the full. Uniforms Committee have been accepted in All out efforts arc being made to step up full; and loading further.

(b) what arc the final decisions taken Arrangements to step up purchasing by the Railway Board in so far as (he capacity of S. T. C. employees of Signal and Telecommunication Department are concerned ? 3905. SHRI P. MEHTA : SHRI P. GANGADEB : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a) and Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (b). Adoption of the various recommenda­ be pleased to state : tions of the Uniforms Committee, have been deferred for consideration till the framing of (a) whether Government have taken any the Budget for 1973-74, due ti> tight finan­ decision to enable the State Trading Corpora­ cial position, tion to step up its purchasing capacity; aq

(b) if so, the nature thereof and when it The total outlay upto March, 1972 on is likely to be implemented ? these works is about Rs. 7 crores.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE The important works, which are currently MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE under execution are— (1) Scheme for protec­ (SHRI A. C. GEORGE) : (a) The STC docs tion of right bank of river Teesta from not suffer from any constraints, financial or Mondalghat to Bibiganj, (2) Scheme for otherwise, in its purchases locally for export diversion of river Kerala for the protection or its purchases abroad for import. of Jalpaiguri town, (3) Scheme for preventing diversion of the river Sil Torse into Chel and (b) Does not arise. (4) Scheme for protection of Bijanbari town. The Mahananda Embankment Scheme (West Flood Control Measures in West Bengal Bengal) has recently been approved for implementation. Construction of an embank­ 3906. SHR] JYOTIRMOY BOSU : ment on the left bank of the river Ganga to Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND protect areas in the Malda district has also POWER be pleased to state the progress been approved for implementation, as a part made so far in regard to the implementation of the Farakka Barrage Project. of long term scheme of flood control in North Bengal District (West Bengal) ? Export Production Plan

THE DEPUTY MINISTER TN THE 3907. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be POWER (SHRl B. N. KUREEL) : The pleased to state : North Bengal Flood Control Commission, which had been set up by the Government of (a) whether his Ministry is presently West Bengal, in October 1971, have taken engaged in drawing up concrete export pro­ up the investigations and preparation of a duction plant in respect of items having comprehensive plan for flood control in the maximum export potential; and North Bengal region. Pending the prepara­ tion of a comprehensive plan, works are (b) if so, an outline thereof ? being implemented to the extent necessary in the vulnerable areas, which will ultimately fit THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in the overall plan of flood control. MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE) : (a) Twelve Inter- The works implemented up to the end of Ministerial Working Groups have been set March, 1972 include construction of 110 up to draw up concrcte export production Kms of new embankments and 10 town plans in respect of some specific commodity protection works, river training works and groups and to implement those plans. raising and strengthening of existing embank­ ments. These works aim at providing pro­ (b) A statement giving the names of the tection in a substantial degree to an area of Working Groups & Products with which they about 1-6 lakh hectares. are concerned and their terms of reference is attached.

Statement

I. Names of the Working Groups

Group Products Remarks

Group-A Pig Iron, Mild Steel, Tool The Chairman of the Working Groups Alloy & Special steel are the Joint Secretaries of the Depart- Group-B Electronic Equipment A ments jftdministratively concerned with components. * 135 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 136

1 2

Group-C-J (i) Aluminium Metal Group-C-II (ii) Petro-Chemicals & Deri­ vatives thereof: Integrated Petro-cheraicals com­ plexes, Dyes & Interme­ diates, Drugs & Pharma­ ceuticals. (iii) Plastic Resins & M anu­ factures. Group-D Mctallurigical Equipment Small & Cutting Tools, Hand Tools, Metal Cutt­ ing Machines, Metal For­ ming Machines, Chemi­ cal & Fertilizer Plants. Group-E Automobile ancillaries. Group-F-I Ferrous Castings and For­ gings, Stiuctural Steel fabrications. Gtoup-F-M Aluminium Metal Manu­ factures. Group-G Sewing machines and Bicycles, Sewing Machine and Bicycle components. Group-It Processed foods: Marine Products, Canned Fruits & Vegetables. Gtoup-I Leather A Leather Pro­ ducts, Rubber Manufactu­ res including tyres and tubes. Group-J Other selected products in the small scale sector.

II Terms of Reference The terms of reference for all the Work­ tion, expansion and creation of capa­ ing Groups arc as follows :— city with export component.

1. Pin point specific products with 6. Overseas provision of production export potential within the group. inputs and piloting of individual cases through production control 2. Review existing capacity and produc­ system (Industrial Licensing, capital tion including export production. goods licensing and foreign collabora­ 3. Build export elements. tion) both for generating new produc­ tion and for continuing existing pro­ 4. Identify gaps in existing capacity in duction. regard to ranges, specifications, quality 7. Develop information, reporting and and deficiency in quantity. reviewing systems for discharging 5. Plan at the micro level for diversifica­ functions ftt J to 6 above, H i &rltmi Answers VAIfcAltHA S, 1194 t&AKA) Written Answers I S A

Extension of 407 Up from Sthuaa Distribution of Tea Caddies Junction to Bsnmankhi Junction and back (North Eastern 3909. SHRI R. P. YADAV : Will the Railway) Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state : 3908. SHRI R. P. YADAV : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (a) the total number of tea caddie* of each size distributed thtough Calcutta and Delhi offices of the Boaid and the amount (a) whether there is a proposal under spent thereon during the last three yeai*; and consideration of Government to extend 407 Up from Saharsa Junction to Banmankihi (b) to whom these caddies weie distri­ Junction and back; and buted in India ?

(b) if so, the time by which it will be THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE implemented ? MINISTRY OF FORLIGN TRADt (SHRI A C. GEORGF) (a; Distribution of THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI Caddies of diffeient si/cs from Tea Board’s K. HANUMANTHALYA) : (a) and(b). Yes, Head Office in Calcutta and its regional as an experimental measure for 3 Months Office m New Delhi and the amount spent from 1-5-1972. thereon during the last thiee years are given below : —

Distribution from Head Office in Calcutta

Year Animal/Bird Large Medium Small Total Value No. size si?e size No. in Rs

1969-70 46 97 353 1 2 0 616 3828 55 1970-71 46 50 175 1 1 302 2 *08 59 1971-72 153 91 91 32 367 5015 73 Distribution from Regional Office in Delhi

1969 153 130 149 153 585 4106*57 1970 138 291 464 640 1 53 ^ 8752*72 1971 203 481 191 203 1078 9567 49

Note : Figures according to financial year basis for Delhi Office are not teadily available.

(b) Caddies were distributed/given to— Circular Railway Project for Calcatta 3910 DR RANTN SfcN : Will the (i) Foreign dignitaries aod members of Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state ; delegations and trade missions who visited India from time to time. (a) whether Government have decided (ii) Officials of Ministry of Foreign trade to give clearance to the construction of during their tour abroad for pur­ circular railway project in Calcutta; poses of presentation; and (b) if so, the broad outlines of the deci­ (iii) Government officials for presenta­ sion; and tion by them to important visitors and foreign dignitaries who called (c) when the construction woik will on them, stait ? 1 5 9 Written Answin A rtU L lS , Written Answer* l 4 o

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) if so, the decision taken in the K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) No matter ’

(b) and (c) Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRl K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) Not yet Wagon Building in West Bengal (b) The construction of this line can be consideied only after the Repoit of the Study 3911 DR RANFN SFN Will the Group appointed by the Government for Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state development of Malangtoli deposits is avail­ able (a) the number ol wagons for which the Centtal Government have placed orders with manufacturing firms located in West Bengal mR VfiWT ('pffrTT TT during 1971-72 > TT (b) whether the Central Government propose to allot 67 per cent of the others for manufdctuiing wagons with firms in West Bengal during 1972-73 *T?fT t ? w \ fqri sftt fo

THF M1NISH R O r RAILWAYS (SHRI ( ^ ) WT 1972 % drf-rPT K HANUMANTHAIYA) (a) 4609 5 * ^ r f r P ” ^ TTT T f ^ T T^ wagons in terms of foui whcclcis ha\e been ordered on the Wagon Builders in West ^SiTT 3PT % TT Bengal against 1971-72 Wagon Building ffT*T ffiTT T?TT «TT, tfV Programme TTWT^ ^ Sft »rt «ft, tfV

(b) In order to revive the Wagon Build ( q ) ST,

3912 SHRI CHIN TAMANI PANI­ (b) whether there is any machinery within GRAHI Will the Minister of RAILWAYS the framework of the Ministry which studies be pleased to state the problem and reports to the Ministry about the ways of its eradication, and (a) whethei the engineering survey report of Talcher-Bimlagarh Rail link in Orissa has (c) if not, whether there is any proposal since been examined, and to set up some machinery for tbe purpose ? 1 4 1 Written Aruwtn VAISAKHA 5, 1B94 (SAKA) Writttn Answera 1 4 2

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI (b) the names of the State Governments K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) and (b). A which are insisting on veiy high rates of statement is attached. electric supply to the Railways; and (c) Does not arise. (c) the areas contemplated to be put on the clcctric map of the Railways in the pie- Statement sent and the next Five Year Plan ? A full-fledged Vigilancc Organisation functions on each of the /ones of the Indian THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Railways and also in the Ministry of Rail* (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) No. wajs (Railway Board) for dealing with complaints/ allegations of corruption and (b) Docs not arise. malpractices against Railway Servants. All genuine complaints/allegations and informa­ (c) During the Fourth Plan (1969-74), tion received arc looked into and enquiries/ electric traction has already been introduced investigations as warranted are conducted. on the following sections : Apart from these investigations, the Vigilance Organisation also conducts on its own. pre­ ventive checks and selective studies with a ( i ) Rourkcla-Durg Scction ol South view not only to unearth conupt practices Eastern Railway; and and bring to light the inodus-opcrandi of (ii ) Kanpur-Tundla Scction of Northern and the scope for such corruption but also Railway. to help to plug the loopholes or lacunae in the Rules delected during such checks/ studies in the day-to-day working of the Further elcctric traction is expected to Railways. Such preventive chccks are also be introduced on Ahcmcdabad-Baioda Sec­ conducted bv the Vigilante Oiganisation tion of Western Railway and Panskura-Hal- jointly with the Special Police Establishment dia Section of the South Eastern Railway. (S.P.K.). Investigations into complaints of malpractices and bribery against public In addition, electrification wuiks are now servents (including Railway servants) are also in progress on the following sections and conducted by the S.P.F. likely to be completed during the Fifth I i\e Year Plan : 2. The activities of the Vigilancc Orga­ nisation on the Zonal Railways including ( i ) Baroda-Virar (Western Railway) the detection of lacunae in rules and proce­ (ii) 'Iundid- Delhi (Northern Railway) dure brought to light and action taken to rectify them are reported by such orga­ (iii) Waltair-Kirandul (South Lestern nisations to the Ministry of Railways in Railway) the form of monthly, quarterly and annual reports. (iv) Madras-Vija.vawada (Southern A South Central Railways). Negotiations with State Governments for Utilizing Surplus Electric Further programme of electrification Energy for Trains works to be taken up during the Fifth I ivc Year Plan has not yet been finalised. 3915. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Expansion of Railway Workshop sta te : K haragpur

(a) whether negotiations with various 3916. SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA : Will State Governments having surplus electrical the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to energy are in progress for the use of their slate *. surplus power by Railways for running electric trains, and if so, the stage of negotia­ (a) whether Government have any pro­ tions; “ posal under consideration for the expansion 141 Written Answers A tk lL iS, 19 i t Written Answers 144 of the Railway Workshop at Kharagpur (b) the break-up of the wagons ordered (West Benga1), and the dates by which their deliveries are scheduled } (b) if so tht broad outlines thertof, and THF MINISTEROI RAILWAYS (SHRI (t) when it is likely to be expanded > K HANUMANTIIAIYA) (a) Yes

THF MIN1SILROT RAI1 WAYS (SHRI (b) A statement is placed on the Table K IIANUMANTHAIYA) (a) lo (t) Some of the Sabha expansion sthtmts die being taken up at Kharagpui workshop to enable the woikshop Statement to deal with the moie modem and sophisti- taitd typt of rolling stock including ditstl Against 1971-72 and 1972-7 1 Wagon locomotives electric loco bogie parts and Building Programme, the number and type the new ICF and BEML toathts of wagons (other than lank Wagons) ordeicii on Private Wagon Buikleis and then sche­ Particulais of tht pioposed sthemes art duled deliverv dates ate given below furnished in the statement I lid on the Table of the House [Placed m Libraiy Ste No 1971-72 Wagon Building Piognmme L T — 1848 72} (Private Sectoi )

Export of Tobacco to USSR Typt of N um btr Contract wagons ordutd dthvtiy date 1917 SHRI S A MURUGANAN- 1HAM Will the Minister of FORLIGN BOXT 24*5 31-12-1972 TRADE1 be pleased to statj BOY *150 * 1-12-1972 C R /C PT 1828 11-12-1972 BWT/A 101 1 0 -6 1272 (a) whether the Soviet Union has offered MBVG 120 11-12-1972 to purchase additional quantity of tobacto MBTPZ 2 2 ‘> 11-12-1972 fiom India and MBWZ S9 M 7 -1 9 7 2 1972 71 Wagon Building Programme (b) if so, the qumtity expcetcd to bt purchased by Soviet Union and the value BOX! n o o U 1-1974 CRI theieof 9 1214 11-1 1974 BOY 9 SO 11-1 1974 1HI DFPLI\ MIMST1R IN THr MINISTRY O) 10RHGN TRADt (SHRI Additional oidtT s foi the lolloping types A C GFORGF) (a) and (b) 1 N 000 tonnes and quiiitny of wagons aie being plated on of tobacco valued at Rs 16 0 tiorts tht Piivatt Wagon Buildtrs (approximately) is cxpecttd to be txportcd to USSR dunng 1972 against 7,000 tonnes 1 ype of Quantity Delivery date valued at Rs 5 5 croies exported during wagons 1970-71 There is no offer from U SSR to putchtse tobacco over and above the BOXT 706 11-3-1974 Trade Plan Piovision ku 1972 CRI 2677 11-1-1974 BVCiT 210 11-1-1974 Inordinate Detention of Rail Wagons and Wagon shortage Railway Workshops 1971-72 Programme 3918 SHRI J) D DLSAI Will the NIL Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state 1972-73 Programme (a) whether manufacture of additional goods wagons of different types besides tank- BOXT - 150 Expected to be wagons has been ordered for programmed CRT - 500 completed by deliveries, and BCX — 115 March, 1974 14$ Written Answer* VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA} Written Answen 146

Details of orders for 7 ank Wagons placed asked the Central Government for setting against 1971-72 and 1972-71 Piogrammes up I rade Centres at Lrnakulam and other on Private Wagon Builders arc as under places in Kerala, and

1971-72 Programme (b) if iO, the broad features of the suggestion nude by the State Government Type of Number Delivery and the reaction of Central Government wagon ordered date thereto 7 I PR I 3 H 31-12-1972 792 1 0 -4 -197** 1 HI DLPU1Y MINIS!FR IN THE MfNISIRY Ol FORT ION 1RADF (SHRI A C GFORGF) (a) and (b) 1972-71 Ptogiamme The State Government authonties have put up a proposal for setting up a Tiade Centre I PR 1000 11-12-1971 at Frnakulam for development of exports CiOO 11- 1 -1974 of products of Small Scale industries in 400 11-12-1972 Kerala State 1 he proposal is under consi­ deration of Government No ordeis foi Tank Wagons have been placed on Railway Workshops against Extension of Hydel Project at Devighat 1971-72 and 1972-73 Programmes 1922 SHRI M M TOS1 PII Will the Dual Policy by C C I. Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state 1920 SHRI D D DESAI Will the Mumtei of f ORFIGN TRADL be pleased (a) whethet Government are aware of to state the decision of the Nepal Government to undertale the extension of the Indian-built (a) whether the Colton Coipontion of hjdel project at Devighit. and India ts on the one hand publicising every now and then that it is intensifying purchises of indigenous cotton to lend support to the (b) if so the bioad out-lme tnercof 7 prices and on the otlif hand piivakiy nego­ tiating with tiadcrs foi sdling cotton out of IHl DIPU1V MIMSJIR IN THF Us stocks, thus atccntuitmg paniekt condi­ MINIM R\ Ol IKRIGMION AND POWER tions m the maiket (SHRI B N kLRl J I ) and (b) Yes, Sn Ilowevu other alternatives aie a lso (b) whether the prices ol cotton had under consideiJtion and a tinal repoit is yet slumped and the farmers traders, banks, ere to b e ev o lv ed had lost faith in the Cotporation as a result of such a dual policy, and Export of Bicycles to U S. A

(c) if so, the action taken b> the Ministry 1921 SHRl G ^ kRISHNAN Will tn this lcgaid 7 the Mimstei of IORL1GN TRADE be pleased to stale THF D IP IH Y M IN IS IIR IN T11L MINISTRY OF rORtiGN IRADI (SHRI (a) wh'thei (Icmtnd foi Inuiui bicycles A C. GIORGF) (a) No, Su lb increasing in U S A , and (b) and (t) Do not at ise (b) the number ol bievclcs exported to the U S A dunng 1970-71 and 1971-72 Setting up of Trade Centres in Kerala and the am >unt of foicign exchange earned 3921. SHRI M M JOSI PH • Will the by this industry * Minister of FOREIGN I RADI be pleased to state : HU D iPim MINIS! 1 R IN I HE ♦ MINIS! R\ Ol I ORFIGN TKADI (SHRl (a ) whethei Keiala Government haJ A C G l ORGfc) (a> Yes, Sir 1 4 7 Writttn Answtrt A rtuIts. 1912 Writttn Answtrt US

(b) During the period April *71 to Outlay for Rural Electrification of January ’72 (10 months), 8682 complete H ill D istricts o f U. p. bicycles valued at Rs. 12*53 lakhs were exported to U. S. A. as compared to 3925. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH 13152 bicycles valued at Rs. 15 83 lakhs B1SHT : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION exported during 1970-71 (12 months). The AND POWER be pleased to state : Projects and Equipment Corporation of India have recently secured a firm contract for (a) whether Rural Electrification Cor­ the supply of 60,000 three speed hub poration has prepared a comprehensive cyclcs, valued at U. S. <14,76,000 (/. o. b.) scheme for rural electrification of hill dis­ to U. S. A. tricts of Uttar Pradesh;

(b) if so, the broad outline thereof along- Central assisatnce to States for Irriga­ with the proposed outlay and time tion Development schedule; and

(c) if not, the reasons for neglecting the 3924. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : Will area ? the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) to (a) the amount of grants given by the (c). The Rural Electrification Corporation Central Government to the State Govern­ have introduced special concessional terms ments for the development of iriigation for financing of rural electrification schemes during the last three years, and submitted by the State Electricity Boards for specially under-developed hill areas. The (b) the total area in acres covered by Corporation has so far sanctioned one such irrigation as on the 31st March, 1972 ? scheme for Uttar Pradesh m lespect of the Nainital District envisaging loan assistance of about Rs. 56 lakhs for the electrification THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of 215 villages and 109 pumpsets. The MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND estimated cost of the scheme is about Rs. 77 POWER (SHRr B. N. KUREFL): (a) Irriga­ Idkhs and is expected to be completed with­ tion is a state subject and funds fot construc­ in a period of 3 years from the date of its tion of irrigation projects arc Provided by sanction in January, 1972. the State Governments in their budgets with­ in the framework of the overall developmental Railway Line from Tanakpur to plans. Central assistance was given in the Bageshwar in Uttar Pradesh form of block loam and grants for the State plans as a whole and not related to any individual head or sector or project, 3926. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH BISHT : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : The total plan outlay of the States for the first three years of the Fourth Plan was (a) whether Government have decided to Rs. 3456 crores, out of which Central construct a 170 km. tailway route in the assistance was Rs. 1950 crores The outlay Hill Districts of U. P., from Tanakpur (Dis­ made by the State Governments during these trict Nainital) to Bageshwar (Distnct Almora) three years on major and medium irrigaation at an estimated cost of the Rs. 20 crores; projects was Rs. 627 crores. and

(b) if so, the time schedule for construc­ |b) The total area provided with irriga­ tion and whether it will be linked further tion facilities in the country by March, 1972 with the Districts of Pauri-Garhwal, Tehri- is about 100 million acres. Garhwal and Vithoragarh ? |4 9 Written Answers VAISAkHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 150

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Company; Afghanistan for feasibility studies (SHRI K. IIANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) No. for some micro-hydel schemes including the preparation of projcct designs and estimates (b) Docs not arise. for two power stations; and by the National Industrial Development Corporation in Jobs Undertaken by Water and Power connection with their assignment in Iran. The Development Consultancy Service Company has been entrusted with feasibility studies for the Mak Nao Projcct in Laos. 3927. SHRI C. CHIT TIBABU : Will Assistance has been provided by W. A. P. C. O. S. to the Zambia Electric Supply Cor­ the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER poration and Tehran Regional Electric Com­ be pleased to state: pany for selection of Indian engineers. It also arranged for provision of services of engin­ (a) the jobs inside and outside India eering experts for work in Tanzania, Thai- undertaken by ihc Water and Power Deve­ land and Nigeria. lopment Consultancy Services (India) Limited since its inception; (b) and (cj. Apart from minor assign­ ments of technical advice, the comany has (b) the number of assignments both inside completed four assignments abroad and three and outside India that have been completed in India. The Coiporation earned about so far, Rs. 79000 out of which an amount of Rs. 5f>000 is m foreign exchange. (c) the earnings of the Company on the assignments completed; and (d) About Rs. 15-25 lakhs aic expected from assignments not yet completed including (d) the total fees for the assignments to about Rs. 7 lakhs in foreign exchange. be completed ? Setting np of Regional Load THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Despatching Stations MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KURF.LL) : (a) For 3928. SHRI C. CHITTIBABU : Will rPojects within the country, the Water & the Minister of IRR1GAHON AND Power Development Consultancy Services POWER be pleased to state : (India) Limited (WAPCOS) was entrusted with the work icgatdmg the preparation of the (a) lunv many Regional Load Despatch- feasibility report for the Northern Region mg Stations to enable integrated operation Load Despatch Station. In addition the ol the power system m the various regions assignment undertaken by the Company have been established; include chemical analysis of raw and demm- eralised water for Barauni Power Station in (b) the total number of such stations Bihar; storage for the tailing dam for the with their location to be established through­ Bailadila Deposit Project as desired by the out the country; 3nd National Industrial Development Corpora­ tion; additional water supply for expansion of plant of the Travancore Titanium Products (c) when this work is likely to be com­ Limited, Kerala; studies relating to fresh pleted ? water sources for Greater Bombay; advice required by the Damoder Valley Corporation THE DEPUTY MINSTER IN THF. relating to the Konar Dam; and enquiries M1NIS1RY OF IRRIGATION AND concerning the Manjira Water Supply POWER (SHRI B. N. KURtiEL) (a) to Scheme at Hyderabad. In the international (c). To enable operation of power sys­ sphere, the services of W. A. P. C. O. S. tems in the regions, efforts arc being were availed of in Malawi in connection made to establish Four regional Load with land surveys; Sumatra for the Wampoo Despatching Stations at Delhi (Badarpur) for Flood Control Project in respect of which the Northern Region, at Bangalore for the the Asian Development Bank availed of the Southern Region, at Bombay (Kalwa) for the services of a senior expert" deputed by the Western Region and at Calcutta (Howrah) 1 5 1 W ritm Answtrs AJ*RlL 25, litl Wrttt*n Amwtn i i t

for the Eastern Region The establishment the normal rules for reckoning travelling to of the Regional Load Despatching Stations and fiom the site of the accident for pur* will be phased to suit the system needs and poses of hours of work and eligibility for requirement, the more sophisticated equip­ Daily allowance. ment like automatic control etc. being install­ ed later. The first phase of the establishment Since the staff of the Signal and Tele­ of Northern and Southern Regional Load communication Department are treated in Despatching Stations which is being taken the same manner as the generality of staff of in hand is expected to be completed by the other Departments, there is no discrimination end of the Fourth Plan/eaily m Fifth Plan. to their disadvantage. Earmarked staff of the Similar stations in the other Regions are also running shed, carriage and wagon shed and likely to be taken up during the Fourth Plan electrical relief train unit at the location of after the proposals arc finalised. the relief train are however on a different footing being in charge of the relief train Free Food and Break-Down Allowance equipment and hence arc paid a breakdown to Essential Category Staff of allowance. S & T Department Accommodation for Signal and Tele­ 3929. SHRI CHANDRJKA PRASAD : com m unication Staff., Delhi Divi­ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased sion (Northern Railway) to Mate :

(a) whether the Signal and Tele-com- 3930. SHRI CHANDR1KA PRASAD : munication sta aie required to attend to Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Railway Accidents and Break-downs like to state ; derailments, trailing through of points and damaging of level cu rsin g gates; (a) whether the staff posted to maintain the Signal and Telecommunication equipment at Okhla, Safdarjang, Tilak Bridge. Sahibabad (b) whethct the staff of other Depart­ ments while attending to accidents or break­ Jind, Budladha, Tughlakabad, Ganaur, Siihind etc. in Delhi Division are lequired to downs arc allowed free food and Mreakdown attend to the failures of Signalling and Tele­ allowance and the Signal and Telecommuni­ cation sUfl attending to the same job are communications equipments; at any time denied these facilities and benefits; and during day or night;

(c) if so, the reasons therefor ? (b) whether this staff is in ‘Essential* category in regard to provision of Railway accommodation; THF MINISTER OF RMIWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) (.1) Yes, if neces­ sary. (e) whether the staff at the places are not provided with Railway accommodation nearer to their place of duty; and (b) and (c). Breakdown allowance is not sanctioned to staff of all other Departments, but only to a small number of specifically (d) if so, the reasons therefor and what earmarked peisonnJ anvMig ihe staff of action the Administration propose to take to running shed-,, carnage and wagon sheds and solve this giievancc of the staff? relief train electrical mi'ts at junctions where relief trains arc stationed T hey are compul­ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI sorily to accompany the Relief trains on call. K. HANUMANTHAIYA): (a) Yes.

Other stafT of all Departments including (b) Yes. Signal & Telecommunication Department actually detailed to attend bieakdown duties (c) and (d). Railway accommodation is are granted free food during the peiiod they provided to the extent available. Fssenlial are engaged in bieakdown duties and also staff are allottqJ Quarters according to avai­ allowed certain conee'Sions in relaxation of lability and their turn in the waiting list. 15 3 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

Construction of new quarters is taken up THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI annually on a programme basis according to K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) In a personal availability of funds. quarrel between sonic gangman and Railway Protection Force Armed Wing men, some Use of Photographs of Chief of Army gangmen received injuries. Subsequently a staff in Darbhanga Bye-Election number of gangmen and villagets including to Lok Sabha students assembled there and assaulted th Railway Protection Forcc men who got 3931. SHRI MADHU DANDAVATE : panicky. Apprehending that their rifles will Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be snatched away and their lives exposed to be pleased to state : danger, they opened fire icsulting in death of three persons and injury to a few others. (a) whether photographs of the Chief of the Army Staff were used in the eampaign (b) Railway Piotection Force posted for bye-clection to the Lok Sabha from there have been withdrawn to bring back Darbhanga Parliamentary constituency; normally. The accused Rakshaks are under Police custody and hnvc been placed under suspension pending further investigation. (b) if so, the names of the candidates Suitable instructions have been issued to the who used the photographs; and Railway Protection Force staff to be more tactful and tolerant in their dealings with the (c) whether any action was taken by people. Government under the Llcction Law ? Slow Progress of Canal Projects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Rajasthan MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAUDHARY) : 3933. SHRI SHRIK1SHAN MODI : (a) The Government and ihe Election Com­ Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND mission have no information either from the POWER be pleased to state : contesting candidates or the State authorities regarding the use of the photographs of the (a) whether there is a demand for Chief of the Army Staff, in the bye-election appointment of a Committee to probe into to Lok Sabha from the Darbhanga Parlia­ the slow pragiess of the Canal Schcmes in mentary Constituency. Rajasthan and to recommend measures to utilise the Boas water that continues lo flow (b) and (c). Do not arise. into Pakistan two years after Indus waters treaty obligations arc over; and Firing by R. P. F. Personnel at Khirai Railway Station (Sooth Eastern (b) if so, Government’s reaction thereto ? Railway) THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND 3932. SHRI JAGADISH BHATTA- POWLR (SHRJ B. N. KUREEL) : (a) No, CHARYYA : Will the Minister of RAIL­ Sir. WAYS be pleased to state : (b) Does not arise. (a) the reason for firing by Railway Pro­ tection Force personnel at Khirai Station on Rail Wagons for Kapadvanj Railway the South Eastern Railway In West Bengal Station (Westarn Railway) resulting in the death of four men including a student and a gangman on the 27th March, 3934. SHRI PRABHUDAS PATEL : 1 9 7 2 ;and Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (b) the steps taken by Government to slop the recurrence of such incidents in (a) whether there is a great shortage of future ? • rail wagons at Kapadvanj railway Station 155 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 156 for transportation of cotton resulting in with the neighbouring States of Maharashtra, slump in cotton priccs and difficulties to Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan. The ques­ traders; and tion of improving supplies of fuel oil and gas to Dhuvaran power station to enable the (b) the steps taken by Government to maximum power generation possible from solve the wagon shortage there ? the existing generating sets and the location of a new atomic power station in Saurashtra were also discussed. The delegation was T1IE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI apprised of the action being taken by the K. HANUMANTHA1YA) : (a) No. Ministry of Irrigation and Power on these points. The delegation noted that the (b) The loading is being done currently. Ministry of Irrigation and Power were mak­ During the period from 1st Januaiy to 17th ing efforts for improvement of the power April, 1972. 121 wagons were loaded as situation in Gujarat on several fronts. compared to 117 wagons loaded duiing the corresponding period of last \ear and no demand was pending compliance on Power Shortage in Gujarat 17.4.1972. 3936. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Discussion with Delegation of SHRI D. D. DESAT : Gujarat Chamber of Com­ merce Regarding work­ Will the Minister of IRRIGATION ing of Tarapur Atomic AND POWFR be pleased to state : Power Station (a) whether work on war fooding has 3935. SHRI PRABI1UDAS PATH. : been stalled on nine power projects in Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Gujarat to meet the power shortage in that POW ER be pleased to .state : State;

(a) whether an eight-member delegation (b) what are the other measures that of the Gujarat Chamber of Commerce visited the Central Government have asked the New Delhi and had discussions with him State Government to take to solve the acute in regard to the working of the Tarapur problem; and Atomic Power Station; and (c) whether the Central Government (b) if so, the points discussed and the have directed the State Government to outcomc of the discussion ? impose a 25 per cent cut in power supply to the hightension consumer ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND THE DFPUTY MINISTER IN THE POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEI.) . (a) and MIN1S1RY OF IRRIGATION AND (b). Yes, Sir. A delegation of the Gujarat POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a). The Chamber of Commerce aud Industry called Gujarat Elcctrieity Board had taken up for on the Deputy Minister of Irrigation and execution the installation of nine generating Power on 25th March, 1972 and discussed units totalling 754 MW to enable them to various matters regarding power shortage meet the demand at the end of the Fourth conditions in Gujarat. During the discussions, Plan the difficulties faced by the Tarapur Atomic Power Station, which is managed by the' 1. 4 Nos. generating sets of 75 MW Atomic Power Authority, were also briefly cach at Ukai Hydro. recounted. The different projects in hand for improving the power supply position in Gujarat were reviewed. This included pro­ 2. 1 No. generating set of 120 MW at gress on the installation of two sets each of Ukai Thermal. 140 MW capacity at Dhuvaran thermal power station and construction of inter­ 3. 2 Nos, generating sets of 140 MW state lines linking Gujarat power system each at Dhuvaran. 157 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

4. 2 Nos. gas turbines of 27 MW each Year Qty. exported FOB realisation at Dhuvaran. (tonne) (Rs. lakhs) Total:— 9 Nos. generating units totalling 1968-69 1,640 14 54 754 MW 1969-70 2,069 12-45 1970-71 1,23,870 1 6 229 Of these nine generating sets, two gas 1971-72 35,993 48-45 turbine sets totalling 54 MW have been (upto Oct. ’71) commissioned. The first generating set of 140 MW at Dhuvaran has been installed and is under going commissioning tests. It will be immediately followed by the com­ (b) This Ministry docs not maintain missioning of the second set The other such statistics. sets are being expedited to the extent possible. (c) Lx-factory price paid to sugar (b) Surplus power has been arranged factories :— from Madhya Pradesh and Mysore. Addi­ tional fuel oil supplies have also been The prices paid to individual sugar fac­ arranged for Dhuvaran Power Station to tories varied depending upon the quality of enable maximum generation at the station. molasses, the distance of the sugar mills The State has also been asked to expedite from rail-head/loading port and f. o. b. commissioning of power generating seti un­ export realisation etc. The minimum and der erection. maximum prices paid during the last 3 years are given below : (c) The State authorities had on their own imposed a 25% cut on power con« sumption in March 1972 on the high ten­ Year Minimum pt ice Maximum price sion consumers which has since been reduced to 16(\„ The Centre has been kept 1969-70 Rs. 10 per tonne Rs. 40 per tonne informed. 1970-71 Rs. 8 „ „ Rs. 40 „ ., 1971-72 Rs 8 „ Rs. 22 „ „ E xport of M olasses

3937. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : Import and Export of Alcohol Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state : 3938. SHRI M. RAMGOPAL REDDY: Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE (a) the quantity of molasses exported be pleased to state the quantity of alcohol from India during the last three years and exported from and imported into India dur­ yearwise f. o. b. realisations; ing the last three years and the f. o. b. price realised for exports ? (b) The States from which molasses was exported with quantities and ports of ship­ ment; and THE DEPUTY MINSTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI (c) what the ex-factory price was paid to A. C. GEORGE) : sugar factories for the molasses procured for export ? Year Import Exports f. o. b. price THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE of exports MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRl (in Litre) (Litres) (in Rupees) A. C. GEORGE) : (a). The quantity of 1968-69 8,13,320 12,181 30,884 molasses exported from India during the 1969-70 13,09,290 8,077 last three years and yearwise f. o. b. realisa­ 40,518 1970-71 2 ,51,752 11,329 75,818 tions were c$ follows : * 159 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answer* 160

Shortage of Fruit Parcels from (b) Government Railway Police, Meerut Wagons on Kela Siding at City registered a case under section 420 New Delhi Railway Indian Penal Code and 120 Railway Act on Station 8-2-1972 against Booking Clerk Shri Tara Chand of Meerut City, who surrendered him­ 3939. SHRI LALJI BHAf : Will the self in the Couit and was released on bail. Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to The case is under investigation. state :

(a) whether Government are aware that Wool Combing Capacity damage/dcficiency messages are issued by the parcel staff on ‘Kela’ Siding of New Delhi Railway Station fi'r the shoitage of 3941. SHRI TR1DIB CHAUDHUR1 : fresh fruit parcels from the wagons with Will the Minister of rORFIGN TRADE be seals intact, with the connivance of mer­ pleased to state : chants; (a) the total wool combing capacity now (b) if so, the amount of claims paid due operative in the country outside the woollen to the shortages shown fiom such wagons mills having then own wool-combing facili­ during the years 1970, 1971 and 1972; ties but including their spare capacities over and and above their own requirements;

(c) whether Government piopose to (b) whether the Textile Commissioners issue instructions for preparation of test Organisation or Government have made any wagons at the booking and sealing stations arrangements foi the utilisation of the avai­ to check these losses in future ? lable wool combing facilities for the benefit of woollen textile mdustiy in general, parti­ cularly fox the smaller woollen mills and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS wool pow'crloom industrj; and (SHRI K. HANUMANIHAIYA) : (a). No such case has come to notice. (c) whethei Government piopose to issue instructions for preparation of lest wagons (b) Does not aiise. at the booking and scaling stations to check these losses in future ? (c) No.

Complaint against Booking Clerk THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Meerut City Station MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE): (a) The total sanctioned 3940. SHRI LALJI BHAI : Will the capacity for commission combing is 38‘3 Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to million lbs. per annum. Out of this, 5 mill, state : lbs. sanctioned to all India Wool Combers Cooperative Society Limited, , is not operative. Hence the operative commis­ (a) whether a complaint was icceived by sion combing capacity is 33*3 million lbs. the Government Railway Police, Meerut So far as captivc combing units are con­ City, against a Booking CJeik of Meerut cerned they were permitted to undertake City Station from a passenger who was commission combing only for a period of six allegedly cheated while purchasing the ticket months ending 25th February, 1971. After in January, 1972: and this date no extensions for this facility have (b) if so. the action taken thereon ? been given by the Textile Commissioner.

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) Textile Commissioner’s Office has (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) A made the following arrangements For utili­ complain! was received by Government sation of the available wool combing Railway Police Meerut City on 8-2-1972 facilities for the benefit of the woollen textile from a passenge* who was cheated, industry in general : 161 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

Instructions have been issued to all the capacity for export and Defencc purposes combing units to the effect that half of the would apply separately to noble and french total effective wool combing capacity avai­ combers. Combing of raw material consign­ lable with each individual comber should be ments is to be undertaken strictly on first rcseived exclusively for combing of such raw come first served basis. Priority combing for material as are specifically to be utilised in exporters and Defence suppliers on the one the manufactute of goods intended for ex­ hand and for remaining on the other hand ports against firm orders or are required for should be followed separately on first come Dcfence against D. G. S. and D. contracts. first served basis. Where a comber has both noble and french combing capacity, the 50% reservation of (c) A statement is attached.

Statement

No. State Commission Cpative Total combing combing (in Million Lbs.)

1. West Bengal 1 3 0 0 Nil 1 3 0 0 2. Maharashtra 1*50 3-60 5-10 J. U. P. 3 0 0 3-75 6-75 4. 4 5 0 Nil 4-50 5. Rajasthan 3 0 0 Nil 3 0 0 6. Haryana 0 80 Nil 0-80 7. Punjab 12-50 3 8 8 16-38

Total : 38-30 11*23 4 9 5 3

Power Crisis in West Bengal THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRl B. N. KURELU : (a) Yes, 3942. SHRl TR1DIB CHAUDHURI : Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Sir. POWER be pleased to state : (b) The Government of West Bengal have submitted the following schemes for (a) whether the Central Government augmenting the power availability m the have had any discussions with the West State : Bengal State Electricity Board or the West Bengal Government about the steps for remedying the power crisis in the State; (i) Installation of second hand diesel generating sets totalling 4 7 MW at Siliguri, Cooch-Bihar, Dhirpada (b) whether the Union Government have and Jalpaiguri power stations as a received any request from the West Bengal short term measure. Government or the West Bengal State Electricity Board to make more power (ii) Extension to the Bandel thermal available to them from outside sources or for power station by the addition of additional equipment for increasing their own a 200 MW generating unit. generating capacity; and (iii) Import of diesel generating sets totalling 12 MW for supplementing (c) if so, Union Government's reaction the installed capacity in North- thereto ? Bengal. 163 Written Answen APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 164

(iv) Setting up of a new thermal (w;) *tct cfH sref % nrfW V % power station at Kolaghat with two units of 200 MW each i \ m ^ src

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T^TtrTT ^ m ^ T o r % ^pror 3^T) ITT5T fiKTSTcT % VPT'T 1970-71 % ^ P T *crf *r Tm^r t o t *r m t afk w sr tfr frra ^ srft: ’m t’T faft *nt fw to * I1 srrcfrire w m - i k f t % ^ «F*ft $ i i 165 Written Answers VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

% tfsrsr if W qr (c) the manner in which the appointment to these posts have been made presently; ^ e^n^r faqr ^Tcrr | srrt if ^ST^r and m *r a r ^ «rrfff % ht*t sr«r s s ra ^ f^ J T s f k z r p ft ^r whether the Railway Service Com­ and will be laid on the Tabic of the House mission at Bombay is being shifted to in due course. Nagpur; (c) On Ad-hoc basis, so far as the post (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and in the Main Ministry is concerned.

(e) whether it will affect the interests of (d) Yes, Sir. the candidates from backward areas of Rajasthan ? Introduction of a Night Train from Dharamnagar and Silchar to Tin: M INISTER or RAILWAYS Lumding (SHRl K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Yes. 3946. SHRIMATI JYOTSNA CHAN­ (b) The decision was taken in response DA : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be to demands for locating Railway Service pleased to refer to the reply given to Un­ Commissions in more central places and in starred Question No. 1298 on the 28th pursuance of my statement in the House oil March, 1972 and state : 15.6. 1971 while winding up the discussions on demands for grants (Railways) 1971-72. (a) whether the train No. 203/204 does not run through Badarpur-Lumding during (c) No. night;

Appointment of Public Relation Officer (b) whether Government propose to in Foreign Trade Ministry introduce extra trains from Dharmanagar and Silchar to Lumding and Gauhati during 3945. SHRl K. SURYANARAYANA : night; and Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state: (c) if so, an outline of the proposal ?

(a) whether any Rules have been framed THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS under the Proviso of Article 309 of the (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) No, Constitution for appointment to the posts of 203 Up/204 Dn. Passenger trains do run Public Relations Officers in his Ministry and during night on Lumding-Badarpur section. its Attached and subordinate offices; No. 203 leaves Badarpur at 19*00 hrs. and reaches Lumding at 5*00 hrs. No. 204 (b) if so, whether he will*lay on the leaves Lumding at 18 45 hrs, and arrives Table of the House a copy thereof; Badarpur at 5*05 hrs, thereby effecting 167 Written Answers APRIL 25, 1972 Written Answers 168 appreciable reduction in wailing hours at (*§r) w ^ft «WRRpri*r Lumding for connection with Assam Mail. cI«tt < w r ftnsT% % snflr

(b) No, but No 201/202 Silthar- ?pf f® ^ fa*rr n*rr 3fk Gauhati Passenger is being extended to New Bongatgaon. (»t) 5rfe $f, m w r s r’frn: «ft f a ^ n : (c) Does not arise •^Fcr ifr^nrrafY % ?*rfira % * p ® r JTTfrrcrt T t ?nfa*r | ? a w f % f^TT ftraapr *fa> (»ft *« g jw rr) : (*) 3947. : *RT fa ttf (»r). ^ f a r r a r r ^ an% ?*rr?r *r «n«T T T *T5fV 5RTFT tit f a . ^ ^R T 3TT T^r ??T%cr ^?r W % fa^V ^rr -^fir arftr^ fain ^rr ( ^ ) c T ^ r f % C$1 I ? f, 5T|T affr; % ^ r f^ iT cPSTT affc % f?TW ^rrzt * tt^ t % 5^f ?rW or % ?faf^ qwr fa ^ o R fa m src m i % f a ^ * r ?t«tt ^ rq trE ft, w ^ n M r % f^fr ^fr, irri, r n fa (*j ) sfc ft, m ssrr f®r sra wr ^?tt% % f?rq ^ 5 pt ^ r W ? r f ; afa- !=r*r«r*r 24 ^ 1971 %

(*r) aft* ?«rmr *rsr ?ft Brfinrf«r fa^rr w r «rr i w fa sfsr srm ift ? srrfER?Tf^ sttt ^ sr^mn w t f m t f q fr>q% k fasn^r j t w ^rfa^T 3 *: faitf airm 3 3*Mr*y (*ft % tfiw T t s r e ?tr& ^ ftraTC q o tfe *ntf) : (m ) Sr (*r). cr*srrf -rata ^ t1 ^ ^ ^ ^nftrrf % *mft »Tf^3T> *FT5T % facr vt 3ftt snf?r fift g’serr fsrtRrT ^ f- trsp 5TT«rf^ eft# S ffiR ^ 'ET«TTtR T fa^TCT- grRT ^ sr> 3*rc % ^ 3 5 T: ^^sn>r % s f a | 1 tfsfsr n ti t s s r w i w * * % irefan^rT ^5H arftnr^r srart^TRT faaft * h t h ( w f a ii f a u r «T*TT I 1 m i t ) *ft Wagons for Movement of Cement 3948 : to T rip ara

*ft ®ffaTT ?fm $T*T 3949 SHRI DASARATHA DEB : Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to *rcrr ^pt 5(?th ti\ ^rc»t state : fa (a) whether Government are aware that ( ^ ) SRTT Wtvvr %

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) It is (SHRI K. HAUMANTHAJYA) : (a) The not a fact that owing to non-availability of sanctioned strength of Assistants in the wagons cement cannot be transported to Railway Board's Office as on 1-3*72 was Tripura. During January, February and 359 permanent and 95 temporary posts. As March *72, 156 wagons were loaded with per the Railway Board Secretariat Service ccment for Tripura State on the South Rules, 50% of the permanent posts i. e., 180 Eastern, Eastern and Central Railways. are required to be filled by direct recruit­ ment through the examination conducted by (b) On account of heavy strain on the the U. P. S. C. Railway system in the Eastern sector during the major part of the last financial year due (b) 138 permanent, 16 temporary inclu­ to very heavy movement of foodgraius for ding 5 due to join shortly. refugees into the sector, due to unsatisfactory law & order situation in the area and difficu­ (c) 8 against permanent posts. lties in movement across Farakka due to adverse riverine conditions, movement of (d) The shortfall will be made good cement into Tripura, like movement of other during the subsequent recruitment years. general goods, was affected. with the opening of the bridge across Farakka and the gradual reduction in the number of special moves for Transfer Policy Regarding Class I Defence, every effort is being made to move and Class II Officers the required quantity of cement into this State. 3951. SHRI AMBESH : Will the Minis­ ter of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : Posts of Assistants in Railway Board (a) whether maximum period of stay at 3950. SHRl P. K. GHOSH : Will one place has been prescribed for officers of the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to class 1 and II, and state : (b) if so, the gist of the orders issued in (a) the number of permanent and this regard ? temporary posts of Assistants under the Railway Board which existed on 1st March, THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 1972 and the number of permanent and (SHRI K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) No temporary posts out of these required to be period of stay at one place has been filled up by direct recruits from the prescribed for officers of Class 1 and II; trans­ U. P. S. C. as per the Extant Orders; fers are effected according to administrative requirements. (b) the number of the U. P. S. C. selected direct recruits actually in position on 1st (b) There arc no ordets regarding the March, 1972 against permanent and tempor­ period of stay at one place for officers of ary posts of Assistants; Class I and Class II nor arc any such orders considered necessary. (c) the number of peimanent and tempo­ rary vacancies of one year's duration for which the requisition has been sent to the Import Licence for Tallow U. p, S. C. for filling them up on the basis of the forthcoming Assistants Grade Examina­ 3952. SH RI AMBESH -.Will the Minis­ tion in June, 1972; and ter of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state : (d) if vacancies so intimated to the U. P. S. C. fall short of the existing number (a) the names of the firms which have of vacancies meant for direct recruits, the been given licences for importing mutton reason therefor and when the remaining tallow and other tallow for the years 1971- vacancies are likely to be filled tip V 72 and 1972-73; and i l l Wrttttn Answtrt APRIL 23, 1912 Written A/uwtrt 172

(b) whether separate licences are given to Representation against Inadequate these Companies for importing other tallow Supply of W agons to which is also used in manufacture of soap ? Andhra Pradesh

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 3954. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased (SHRI A. C. GEORGE) : (a) and (b). Im­ to state : port of Mutton tallow has been canalised through State Trading Corporation during (a) whether large quantities of minerals 1971-72 and 1972-73. The imported such as Barytes, Soapstone, Slabs, Limestone material is distributed to actual users by the Lumps and Chips and Yellow Ochre are canalising agency on the recommendations of being booked from Veldurthi, Betamcheral, the sponsoring authorities or as replenish­ Malkapuram in Andhra Pradesh on the metre ment under the import policy for registered gauge line of the South Central Railways to exporters. Information regarding the names many important industries both in the public of firms to whom mutton tallow has been and piivate sectors including the Minerals released duiing 1971-72 and 1972-73 is and Metals Trading Corporation in far off being collectcd and will be placed on the places; Table of the House. The Import of other types of tallow is not permitted. (b) whether there has been an irregular and inadequate supply of wagons affecting Supply of Tank Wagons to Rayalseema the industries and also cteating financial Region of Andhra Pradesh difficulties for the mine owners; and

3953. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : (c) whether representations have been Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased made by individuals in this legard, and, if so, to state : Government's reaction thereto ?

(a) whether large quantities of vegetable THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS oil are hcing booked from Gooti, Anantpur, (SHRl K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) Yes. Guntakalam, Yerra guntala, Tadpatri in the South and South Central Railways; (b) and (c). Some representations have been received for inct cased supply of wagons (b) whether representations have been for movement of limestone, Slabs, Soapstone, made for supply of adequate number of tank etc., from Bclarncherla, Malkapuram and wagons; and Veldurthi stations. The total loading of these commodities from these stations in the (c) if so, the action taken by Govern­ current year is more. During the period from ment in the matter ? 1st January to 10th April 1972, 2591 wagons were loaded as compared (o 1443 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS wagons during the corresponding period iSHRl K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) and of last year. Every effort is being made to (b). Yes, Sir. step up the loading further.

(c) Action has been taken to step up loading to meet the increased demands. faflgTT fartr ftnBTTi ^ tft^FTT Loading of vegetable oil in tank wagons on the Southern and South Central Railways has 3955. vrm m increased by 58-8% during 1971-72 as compared to the loading during 1969*70. ftrsrr? afrc fasra sarr% «ffr The co-operation of the trade has been f a : requested to reduce the heavy terminal delays at some of the destinations, so that the (*p) «rrcr q fo tfto r % loading could be improved further. Action fsr^R *f 1w £ vt vtf ifm r $ has also been taken to press additional tank wagons into service, where necessary. H i Writttn An*wtn VAlSAKftA S, 1894 (SA&A) Writttn Answtrs 1H

alia reinstatement of these workers went on (*sr) z fe f t , eft strike from 22-3-1972. The strike was called t o t | ? off on 18-4-1972.

fiwrrf aftr fa«ra & c m t if a w f t The workmen have been paid retrench­ (srt 4 irw $*ta) : (ap) afh: ($•). fa^rc ment compensation and benefits admissible under the Uttar Pradesh Industrial Disputes ^ ark % Act. In addition they were paid wages for s o r t e r v r f r *r an* % *rr sr^re 3 months, 15 days as ex-gratia. These terms were accepted by the retrenched workers. tu t | fsrcrcr to t $ *r*r*r»T i,44,ooo crspsr srk ^srrctenr n l ,70,000 ijfir Memorandum From General Secretary, National Product* Construction Corporation, Agra

srecn^r % f® sF^ffrc ^?r 3957. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : fa%

vifT tf+d'f I I (a) whether any memorandum has been received from the General Secretary, National Demands of N P.C.C. Worker* Union Projects Construction Corporation, Agn, the District Labour Federation and the Secietary Labour, Sub-Committee of District Congress 3956. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Committee, Agra, Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : (b) if so, the main features thereof; and

(a) whether 48 workers, with a service (c) Government's reaction thereto ? tecord of 10 to 15 years of National Pro­ jects Construction Corporation, Agra were THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE retrenched; MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL) : (a) Yes, (b) whether the National Projects Con­ Sir. struction Corporalion Workers Union, has made a demand that the retrenched workers (b) The main points made m the Memo­ should be taken back; randum related to the losses incurred by the National Projects Construction Corporation (c) whether the workers of the Corpora­ (NPCC) and retrenchment of 48 workers of tion’s Central Workshop, are on strike fiom the NPCC Central Workshop at Agra. the 22nd March, 1972; and (c) The mam contributaiy factois leading (d) if so, the reaction of Government to the losses of the NPCC arc the piovision thereto ? of ilde depreciation of machinery, payment of idle laboui on account of gradual retrench­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ment of surplus labour bccause of completion MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND of works; payment of mteiest on borrowings POWER (SHRI B. N. KURELL): (a) to (d>. to meet the Jack of working capital. Various Due to substantial reduction of work at the steps have been taken to impiove the work­ Central Workshop and Stores of the National ing of NPCC. These includc inter aim, Projects Construction Corporation (N.P.C.C.) disposal of unserviceable and surplus machi­ at Agra, 48 workmen who were found sur­ nery; retrenchment of surplus labour, improve­ plus had to be retrenched from 1-2-1972, ment in the field inspection of works under­ None of them had completed 10-15 years taken by the Corporation and cost control. of service. The Members of the N.P.C.C. Besides a drive has been launched for obtain­ Workers’ Union which had demanded inter ing new works in order to increase the out­ J 7 J Wrltttn A/uwtrt APRIL 21, 1972 Writ tv i Atuw rt 116 turn of the Corporation. Due to reduction (b) the reasons for their closure; and of work in the NPCC Central workshop at Agra, 48 workmen who were found surplus (c) the number of factories reopened and had to be retrenched. These workmen have what action is being taken in regard to the been paid retrenchment compensation and remaining ones ? benefits admissible under the Uttar Pradesh Industiial Disputes Act. In addition they THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE were paid wages for 3 months and 15 days MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI as ex-gratia. These retrenched workmen have A. C. GEORGE) : (a) 251 cashew factories accepted these terms. were closed in Kerala during 1970-71 and 34 factories remained closed by tha end of Central Assistance to Kerala for 1971. Power Projects (b) The salient reasons were ; 3958. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THA- NKAPPAN : Will the Minister of IRRIGA­ ( i) Want of raw cashew nuts; and TION AND POWER be pleased to state : (ii) Financial stringency. (a) the amount proposed to be given by the Central Government to the State of (c) 217 factories re-opened in 1971. A Kerala foi power projects in the State during loan of Rs. 20 lakhs to Kerala Government, the Fourth I ive Year Plan; and and 90 days’ ciedit of Rs. 20 lakhs to Kerala State Cashew Development Corporation, have (b) the amount actually given by the been made available to help reopen, the Central Government to the State of Kerala ? closed factories.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE New Plan to improve Export Trade MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND of Cashew and Pepper PONVLR (SHRI B N. KURFXL): (a) Since the commencement of the Fourth Plan, 3960. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI 1HA- Central Assistance to State Pian schemes is NKAPPAN : Will the Munster ol FOREIGN being given in the form of block loans and TRADE be pleased to stale : grants towards theii overaJl Plan expenditure and not for anv specific projects. The total (a) the total amount of foicign exchange Central Assistance allotted to Keiala for the earned by Government during the last tluee Fourth Plan is Rs. 175 crores. In addition, years by export of cashew and pepper; and loan assistance outside the State Plan is also given under the Centrally — sponsored (b) whether Government have any new scheme for constiuction of inter-State trans­ mission lines based on actual expenditure. plan to improve the export trade in regard to cashew and pepper, and if so, an outline (b) The Central assistance given to thereof ? Kerala upto the end of 197J-72 is Rs. 97.68 crores foi State Plan schemes. Rs. 0.55 crores THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE were given to the Slate for inter-State trans­ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRl mission lines under the Centrally-sponsored A. C. GEORGE* : (a) schemes. (In crores of Rs.)

Closure of Can>hew Factories in Kerala Year Cashew Pepper Total Exports Exports 3959 SIIRIMATI BHARGAVI THA- 1969-70 57-42 16-2 73-62 NKAPPAN : Will the Minister of FOREIGN 1970-71 5 2 0 6 ' 15*2 TRADE be pleased to state : 67*26 1971-72 61*73 14*8 76*53 (Provisional) (a) the number of cashew factories closed down in Kerala during 1970-71 and 171*21 46'2 217-41 by the end of 1971; 177 Written Answers VAISAKHA 3, 1894 {SAKA) Written Answers 178

(b) Following steps have been taken to The draft plan had been examined in the improve the export trade in respect of cashew Central Water and Power Commission and and pepper : the State Government had been requested to revise the plan taking into account the (1) Cashew t On the recommendations experience of floods subsequent to 1963. of Ministry of Foreign Trade, Mini­ The revised plan is yet to be finalised by the stry of Agriculture has launched a State Gavernment. Pending fmalisation of crash programme under a centrally the Plan, protection measures, as considered sponsored scheme, costing about necessary in the vulnerable areas, are being Rs. 1 crore, in the remaining period implemented as part of the State Plan. of the Fourth Plan, for raising pro­ duction of raw cashewnuts. It is Strength of Commercial Clerks expected that under this scheme, ao in Booking, Parcel and Goods additional area of 10,000 hectares Offices Dhanbad Station will be brought under cashew planta­ (Eastern Railway) tion.

(2) Pepper : India has signed Pepper 3962. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA : Community Agreement with Indo­ Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased nesia and Malaysia with a view to to state : taking such collective measures by the major pepper producing countries (a) the total senctioned cadre strength as would ensure overall stiengtnening of Commercial Clerks in each grade, separa­ of the pepper economy, and also lead tely m Booking, Parcel and Goods Offices to longer expoits. of Dhanbad Station of Eastern Railway;

Plan to Protect Kerala From Flood* (b) the number of the Commercial Clerks, “Permanent and Officiating" in the 3961. SHRIMATI BHARGAVJ THA- Grade of Rs. 150-240 posted m Booking NKAPPAN : Will the Minister of IRRIGA­ and Parcel Office at the station and the TION AND POWfcR be pleased to slate : dates from which the said staff are officiat­ ing; and (a) whether Government have formula­ ted any concrete scheme to protect Kerala (c) the outline of rules framed by the State from devastation caused by floods; Railways to give officiating chance to the station sialY ? (b) if so, the salient features thereof and the time by which it will be completed; and THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI K. HANUMANTHA1YA) : (a) to (c) if not, the reason therefor ? (c). The information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B. N. K U R E F l) : (a) to (c). Exports to EEC Countries and The Government of Kerala had formulated the U.K. in 1963, a draft plan for flood conttol m the State at an estimated cost of Rs. 22 4 ciores. 39<>V SHRI HUKAM CHAND The important categories of woiks included KACHWAl : Will the Minister of FOREIGN in the Plan and their cost are as follows : TRAD! be pleased to state :

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3965. SHRI RAM SWARUP : Will the (a) whether in cases of promotion from Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased clerk grade II to clerk grade I in the to state : Accounts Department of Western Railway recommendations of the Shankar Saran (a) whether in handicrafts sector there Award, i e. 75 per cent from the qualified is no marketirg service facility even in craft staff and 25 per cent from the unqualified concentration areas exporting goods worth staff are adhered to; five to ten crorc rupees; (b) whether in the cases of reversions (b) if so, whether there is any proposal from C. G. I. also the recommendations are to provide suitable marketing service facility followed; in such areas; and (c) if so, whether in cases of promotions (c) the number of crafts concentration and reversions during the period 1st April areas having export potential of more than 1968 to 24th September, 1969 the above a crore of rupees and how many of them arc recommendations were followed; and proposed to be covered during the Fourth (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? Plan ?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE K. HANUMANTHAIYA) : (a) to (d). In­ MINISTRY OF FOREIGN TRADE (SHRI formation is being collected and will be laid A. C. GEORGE) : (a) to (c). Marketin i faci­ on the Table of the Sabha. lities for handicrafts arc available though the various Emporia run by the Ccntial and the State Governments and private organisa­ «r?rr?nT fsrsft 3?q»¥prf frz rffft tions. The total number of such empona is about 220 in the country. The craft concen­ 3967. VfTT SWT? ***** : TOT tration areas with an export potential of more than a croie of rupees are as f a n i f w r follows: *R»T far :

1. Bhadohi (Mirzapur) (*f) *rai®pr cwt fcsfar Saharanpur 2. cfsTT f?renT srrarta Jr 3. M oradabad facFT tfjiTPT m r | z f tx snr^rr- 4. Fartukhabad 5. fnfi ^ wr I; 6. Trivandrum 7. Varanasi ( « ) ^ 8. Bombay % f ’Tff TOT *FTjfani> * r 'SIT 7?fr I ? 9. Ahmedabad fw ni afa *srr*rar * «r»r-*W 10. Srinagar (« ft : («F) (Sf). The All India Handicrafts Board have *rar?r?r f a i j t antft*r opened two Market Extension Centres at % 5R fasHT if ?T STc^ $ Moradabad and Nagarcoil and a few more am proposed to be started. f m fq itit % T O TT?p.nff, 1 8 3 Written Amwtrt APRIL J3, 1972 Matttr Vndtr Huh 3 7 7 1 S 4

| fara** s s f a c f «T5f T i Kosi Kanal Project have been finalised with the Government of Nepal; and a r ^ r T | : —

(b) if so, the broad outline thereof ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND m f a s n r POWER (SHRI B. N. KUREEL): (a) and w to r *Tt*T (b). The detailed technical aspects of the Western Kosi Canal Project like the align­ ment, designs and canal structures were dis­ %*fr srfaTm ! 1 cussed and settled between the officials of the arj-arrw s s - i t t 2 Government of Bihar and His Majesty’s ff*ff J 1 Government of Nepal at Kathmandu from 9th to 11th April, 1972. f§*ft ar^RT 2 3 4 ^fVsr) 1 fTO W ^FTT 3 3 1 CORRECTION OF ANSWER TO U. S Q. 936 DATED 21 3 1972 RE: INCREASE IN EXPORT DUTY ^ * T R TPT-STR TT KUT'T % \ m f ^ , ON JUTE fasr/r ?rsr *r fg?£r arfwfnrV sit re sftr f ^ r argprrer ( w z - z r ) tt f t q ? w - THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE f*T

?r*ra- «rc * f t t c s m ^rrft fr% srr% sri% 11*47 hr*. ^rr*TT^r tow r ?ttt apjsnfarr fftrft 1 1 Tir^rfnff tf ^rr Tt fcrfaff MATTER UNDER RULE 377 anfe % sfsfar % frtft 5Pi5 Tt % Tz t t R e f o r t k d T o k e n S t r i k e h y L I C q

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : In that MR. SPEAKER: Are hon. Members context, may 1 mention that we had given a only interested in being listened to or arc calling-attention-notice a lor^g time ago be­ they interested in listening to the hon, fore the strike started, and before they went Minister ? 187 Matter Under Rule 377 APRIL 25. 1972 Matter Under Rule 377 188

SHRl K. R. GANESH : I regret that employees on an agreement which is still the class HI and class IV employees of effective, want to raise the same question, the L. 1. C. have gone on a token-strikc. and since their negotiations have not com­ pletely led to their demands being met, they SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Why ? have gone on an one-day strike. As I said, the LIC is an autonomous organisation. For SHRl K. R. GANESH : Shri S. M. the last 15 years, all their matters have been Banerjee has raised this question, and, there* settled bilaterally. That being so, 1 do not fore, I might say what the position is. There know what Shri Banerjee wants me to say is an agreement between the L 1 C and its here. It is true he is serving a cause by employees effective for four years, which raising this question. But he cannot ask me was signed in June, 1970. The agreement is to commit Government here in regard to a valid till 31st March, 1973. Now, the matter which will involve Rs. 15 crores. It L1C workers are taking a stand that is not possible. since the L. 1. C. has rflSde more profits, in spite of this agreement they want to raise this issue... SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : He is mis­ leading the House. SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam): Because of the agreement LIC improved in its efficicncy, working, etc. 3% srmrt rrcf: fcOTTftrarc-ipr *frfwr

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : In spite of forr 113ft the agreement being there, there are so many 11 §T s sfHr | i things which have been settled.

SHRI K. R. GANESH : The LIC em­ ployees are taking a stand, in spite of this fatrtrrfsrenr sft spr % srro ? z m agreement which is effective and which is *rt m qm ?>rr i m n * legally binding on both the parties, that because the LIC has achieved some pros­ «TTcr y r ^ - m perity this year, they would like to leopen ffR V sth arr | ? this question. This is the issue involved. The LIC has taken the stand that since the agreement is there and the agreement is spft »ft ra ro anrfo ^ effective till 1973, therefore, the discussions Tjjft fj I have not led to any result. Of course, I do not deny the right of the employees to dis­ cuss this matter with the LIC... : f i t f o r

F ^ n r r r ^ t ?tt t ? t f i SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Discrimi­ nation. MR. SPEAKER : Now that it has been raised, questions may be asked. SHRI K. R. GANESH : Another point that I would like to submit is that the LIC is an autonomous corporation for the last SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The basic fifteen years. The employees have been dis­ question is about the discrimination that is cussing and bilaterally solving their problems being practised between classes I and II with the LIC. This particular agreement to employees, officials, on the one side, and which I have referred was referred to adjudi­ classes III and IV employees. In regard to cation. Later on, it was bilaterally settled, house rent, for classes I and II, it is 15 per and in the adjudication machinery, it was cent of the salary; for classes III and IV, it signed as an agreement. is Rs, 20 and Rs. 15. As for medicar benefits, classes I and II have far greatle Now, the issue is this, that the HC concessions, The same is the c*se with 189 Matter Under Rule 377 VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Matter Under Rule 377 190

house building loan. For the officers, the Rs. 234 crores only, they were getting a State Bank gives loans free of interest. For bonus at the rate of one and a half months’ the other staff, classes III and IV, it is at 5 basic salary. Now, the business has gone up per cent interest. For classes I and II, they from Rs. 234 crores to Rs. 1,651 crores. allow Rs. 20,000 to purchase a car without Still, they want to peg them down to one charging interest. and a half months' salary.

la hr*. Then there is the question of recognition of the All India Insurance Employees’ Asso­ ciation which commands an overwhelming The recognition question is another thing. majority of classes III and IV employees. I would only read two sentences from the Recognition has not been accorded by the letter of the then Chairman, Mi. Pai and I LIC management. The membership should be will finish. He is no longer the Chairman. verified and immediate recognition should be The then Chairman of the LIC, on 23rd granted. October, 1971, while acknowledging the resolution, ( said, “I may assure you”— that is, the federation, the all-India association— I regret that the hon. Minister is mis­ “that I am no less anxious about the demand leading the House. Because of Government’s of the Class III and Class IV employees in callous and indifferent attitude, the nation the Corporation to bring them on a par with stands to lose 42,000 man hours today due other classes of employees in the matter of to the token strike. It is a public sector amenities." But at that time, there was the undertaking. But they are ruining it them­ Bengal refugee influx. He said it in October, selves, 1971. Mr. Pai addressed an open letter to the employees, saying that “they were aware SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I made my of the serious crisis through which our statement with full knowledge because I am country is passing on account of the large- connected with the movement of the LIC scale influx of refugees into West Bengal employees. I am the Vice-President of the from Bangla Dcsh, and that has placed a All-India Insurance Employees' Association. severe strain on our country’s economy.” The hon. Minister has said that there is an agreement in force which will be valid upto In the penultimate paragraph of the same March or April 1973. May I remind him letter, he says, “the extension of any ame­ that this agreement was signed on 20th nities for the staff will also have to await June, 1970 on the definite understanding the passing of the crisis.” Now, the crisis that amenities to the employees will be has passed. 1 am sorry that the hon. considered subsequently and that the pros­ Minister, Shri Ganesh, who is a friend of perity of the LIC will be reflected in the ours, does not seem to have read the re­ amenities and benefits afforded to the em­ solution which was sent to the Corporation ployees ? Is it not a fact that after signing and to the Government. The All-India this agreement, certain other important Insurance Employees Association waited issues, though covered by the said agreement, patiently for more than a year, but since the were reviewed and reconsidered and settled negotiations are closed, sincc they have said amicably through bi-partite negotiations ? that nothing could be done, and since Mr. The net result of this was that there was Pai has resigned and has now become a actually a very good atmosphere created; Member of the Rajya Sabha, and the other after this, certain amenities were there. More Chairman has come and he did not negotiate business was realised. There was an increase properly, now is the time,—the time has in general efficiency and lowering down of come— when this agreement does not stand the expense ratio from 16-15 to J4’65 per in the way. 1 feel that the bonus has to be cent. The business of the LIC has shot up raised to three months' basic pay, and their from Rs. 234 crores in J957 to Rs. 1,651 demands should be considered, and they crores in 1971-72. But it is tragic that should be recognised, and the other demands the rate of bonus to Class HI and Class IV should also be considered. If at this time employees of the LIC is still stagnating at it is not taken serious note of, I am sure one and a half months’ ba^ic salary since that this will develop into a general strike )9£7. Since 1957, when their business was today, or tomorrow or any other day. 191 Matter Under Rule 377 APRIL 25, 1971 Matter Under Rute 377 192

SHRI H. N. MUKHERJEE (Calcutta- think it does not. No agreement can take North-East) : Sir, may I have your indul­ away the right of workers to come and gence to say a few words ? I was yesterday discuss the problems with the management in Bombay at the headquarters of the L1C, (Interruption). I understand from the hon. Yogakshema , and 1 had to address meetings Minister and I hope he will clarify this point of the workers who have gone on strike all because it is a question of bonus and other over India, some 42,000 of them today. My emoluments and it is a question of differen­ only point is, apart from the many long­ tial treatments between class I and II, and standing grievances of the insurance em­ between class III and IV employees and ployees of which the lack of recognition, also the recognition of the union. 1 hope which was withdrawn sometime ago, of their the Government has not closed its mind. association is the most important from the As Mr. Mukerjee had suggested, has the point of view of basic principles, here and management any objection to have a dialogue now the demand for bonus has come up, and discussion with the employees so that and the Minister himself has recognised that this problem could be solved. 1 hope the the workers have a right to ask for a higher hon. Minister will use his good offices for quantum of bonus. The last decision in this purpose. regard to the quantum of bonus was in 1957 or 1 9 5 8 — one and a half m o n th s' bonus. Since the idea of bonus is something of a participation in the amount of profits made and since the profit made by the LIC largely on account of the work of the employees has risen to a very high amount, it is only 11 t arrq^t f ? right and proper that the workers, in piesent-day conditions, should ask for a SHRI K. R. GANESH : The LIC has higher bonus. They aic demanding a higher already invited the employees to discuss bonus. They arc going to boycot the accep­ these questions on 10 and 11 May, 1972. tance of bonus; there is going to be created a very peculiar situation Why does not the Government come forwaid and say that they SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Why so late ? arc going to sit down and discuss this question of bonus and they are not going to stand on ceremony and say that you have SHRI K. R. GANESH : Many other signed an agreement validly in 1953, so on points have been raised by Shri Jyotirmoy and so forth ? Bosu about differences in pay and all that. These were matters that were discussed in Why does not Mr. Ganesh say on behalf 1970, there were protracted discussions in of Government that the LJC would be sitting 1970 and the matter was referred to down with the association, with the em­ adjudication and later on bilateral discussions ployees’ organisation, discuss the question of took place and an agreement was reached bonus and discuss also the other outstanding and it was recorded before the tribunal as issues in so far as they are relevant at this an agreement. Some of these points did present moment and solve the problem which not form part of the agreement, therefore has arisen, bccausc this token strike might the employees left it. In reply to the hon. very well lead to a boycott the bonus and Member's question, I should say that no other kinds of demonstrations which hurt agreement closes the door for any discussion the economy of our country and which because bilateral discussions are always Government should try to avoid ? possible. I have taken the stand, that the agreement does not prevent the employees SHRI CHINTAMANl PANIGRAHI from discussing with the employers and (Bhubaneswar) : As far as I understand finding out solutions for problems. the hon. Minister, I would like to know whether this agreement takes away the The Government’s positon is this. The right of any discussion with the management, LIC is an autonomous organisation. For discuision of any of the problems that are 15 years the employees have negotiated and arising. Does it take away the right 7 I won their demands as a result of discussions 193 Matter Under Rule 377 VAJSAKHA 5, 1894 {SAKA) , Trafficking in Adivaii 194 girls m Orhxa (C.A .) with the LIC. The LIC has called them foi dis­ sf) tTflo qwo : ?rt -srnr Tiforrr I c u s s i o n s T hope out of this discussion some settlement would be arrived sit and that it sranr ir^nar: ^ artar m *rcr i will be advantageous to both the employcis a s well as the employees. fT^o tTTio fft 3TT% Now, about recognition, this matter was ^ 3 T T T \ referred to the central evaluation committee ol the Ministry of Labour and the infor­ MR SPKAKFR : I allowed it today. mation given to me is that the AH India There is one more pending. I want to Insurance employees Association has refused accommodate them aNo. to sign the code of discipline and in a resolution passed iii February 1972, the SHRI JYOT1RMOY BOSU : Your own association has repudiated this dode... assurance should be honoured by these (Interruption\) If you feel that the infoi- people. mation that I am giving to you is not correct, and if your information is correct, the situa­ tion becomes simplex. Meanwhile you have also to find out facts because recognition is bjsed on the code of discipline. ia*i 2 hrs.

CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTLR OF URGFNT m fsqrr i PUBLIC IMPORTANCF

R l I'OUTEU 'I UAPFU K1N(. in A ih\ asi a r« W an fr 5ft t r t I C llil.rt IN O kimsa 3% v j ^ f r ^ f t t i SHRI D. K. PANDA (Bhanjanagar) : j p m f sr?fr«n I call the attention of the Minister of Home Affairs to the following nutter of urgent T>? T.g'T f , W S3IT3PT ’■ public impoitancc and I request that he ?A ^T^TT I may nuke a statement thereon :

w a r n : m w r eft **Thc reported trafficking in Adivasi girls in Orissa.” s n w i w m t ft i 3r*ft #

f I THE MINISTER OF SIATF IN THE MINISTRY OF HOML AFFAIRS AND SHRI S. M. BANBf*9B&t*'*ou had IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL issued instructions, that the statement should (SHRI RAM N1WAS MIRDHA) : Sir, as be supplied half an hour before, the statement a result of the closing down of mining has been supplied only at 11 45. It is for operations of the Tata-owned iron mines at your information. They do not care for us. Gorumasiani and Badampahar in the district That is all right. But they should at least of Mayurbhanj in Orissa a few years back, care for the Speaker. a large numbei of workers engaged in the mining operations in these mines and, belong­ ing mostly to the Adivasi communities, were MR. SPEAKER : Sometimes they say thrown out of employment. Some of them that there arc difficulties. In spite of that 1 had moved to nearby mining areas and repeat my direction that it should be there, industrial townships ia Bihar while others are still unemployed. Recruiting parties, w «r on behalf of mining contractors have, from a resR srsr i r m i *?r anrsr ?r> time to time, made recruitment in this region and taken the recruited labour to the mining areas and factories mostly in Bibar. 195 Trafficking in Adivasi. APRIL 25, 1971 girls in Orissa (C.A.) 196

[Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha]

Two incidents we.re reported recently SHRI D. K. PANDA : There are three from Orissa in which the local agents of aspects of the matter which the statement the contractors recruited women labour has either knowingly suppressed or of which from the area. According to the Srate police, they are ignorant. Firstly, certain incidents in one case in September 1971, three young took place and it was brought to the notice girls and one old woman were taken from this of this Government in September, 1971, area to Narsingh Garh in Bihar wherefrom, on but the Central Government bas not taken the pretext of getting them better wages in any steps so far and has remained content other areas, these four persons were taken with the State Government's appeal to the by train to an unknown destination. After villagers in those areas. alighting from the train, the young girls were asked to change over to 'Kurta' and Secondly, it is mentioned in the state­ 'Salwar' and were taken away leaving behind ment that the Gorumasi:ini mines were the old woman, whose movements were closed a few years back. But, since 196 I watched by one of the contractor's men. The these mines were closed and the Adivasis, old woman however escaped from there and who c@nstitute 60·60 per cent of the total after 15 days of travel and unsuccessful population in Mayurbhanj district and also search for the girls in Jamshedpur came the working population in those mines, have back to the village and reported the matter been thrown out of employment. Thirdly, to the police at Gorumasiani. the statement does not say anything with regard to the responsibility of the Centre i In the second incident from Rairangpur towards the tribal people. There is a provi­ police station a few days before the Pujas sion in the Constitution which categorically in 1971, three girls, who had gone to a speaks of the responsibility of the Govern­ local 'hat' were tempted out of the State ment to the tribal people. In Orissa Schedu­ with promises of better wage� and their led Tribes constitute 24.5 per cent and 15 whereabouts are still not known. Some Scheduled Castes constitute per cent of other older women who were taken away the total population. One-third of the total by the same contractors along with area in Orissa has already been · declai ed as these girls, however, returned home and scheduled areas. 90 per cent of the mineral reported the matter to the parents who, production area comes under the tribal after making their own searches for the girls areas. Because of the non-working of the in the industrial townships of Bihar, came mines and the accumulation of iron ore on back unsuccessfully and reported the case account of the shortage of wagons, thousands to the Rairangpur police station, Mayurbhanj and thousands of workers have been thrown District, in November, 1971. out of employment and 90 per cent of them constitute Adibasis. Yet, government seem satisfied with the present position and they In view of these incidents that had taken have only _made a statement. place last year, the State Government have ordered a thorough investigation into the There is a recommendation made by a entire matter through the State Police Central Study Team on Tribal Development C. I. D. Programme in 1968 which says at page 72 :

The State Government have reported that "In the tribal areas of Orissa State, it is not true that a large number of Adivasi which is more than 90 per cent, more girls have been kidnapped from this rq�ion. mineral-based industries could be The appeal to the local residents of Mayur­ established in tribal areas which are bhanj District and the other mining areas potentially rich in minerals. This will of Orissa was made by the Inspector General widen the economic base of the tribal of Police with a view to eliciting the coope­ people by opening up employment ration of the local population in preventing opportunities, in addition to its assis­ such kidnapping and alerting them against tance to the national economy." unscrupulous agents indulging in this activity. Since 196� have any steps been taken 197 Trafficking in Adivasi VAISAKHA 5. 1894 (SAKA) girls in Orissa (C.A.) 198

towards the implementation of the recom­ and simitar matters. Whenever such things mendations made by the Central Team come to our notice, wc take up the matter which toured the entire tribal areas ? May with the Stale Governments. When we came I also know whether the Government is now across such incident', in 1909, we wrote to going to appoint a Commission of Inquiry ? the Governments of Orissa and Bihar saying Are they going to abolish the contract that these things were happening; our system of icauitment in the mining areas '! repoi is showed that these kidnappings were Are they going to have a long lange pro­ taking place and we asked them to be more gramme to remove the cc >nomic distress in vigilant, to take a serious note of these the tribal areas 0 Are they going to supply happenings and alerted them as to their wagons immediately so that the accumulated duty and respon .ibi'ity foi the maintenance of stocks of iron ore can be moved ? The law and order particulirely with respect police have been saying that the Suppression to these offences. Since then we have been of Immoral Traffic Act requires drastic constantly in touch with the two State changes so that it can he enforced effec­ Governments. But it has to be admitted that tively. Ah' they going to make the necessary basically the problem of registering cases, changes in this legislation? I mally, are they investigating them, arresting people and going to ask a Central Team to go into sending them up for trial, belongs to the this ? State Governments; the responsibility prima­ rily is of the State Government so far as Lastly, T want to refer to one case. In these things are concorncd. The Central Bhanjanagar of Gan jam district of Orissa G o\er'im ent, o;; its part, is vifilant on this. sometime back three officers, namely, one We have been collecting informatron and district forest officer, another sub-di\iaional intelligence on such happenings. We have officer and a mines officer misbehaved with been passing them on to State Governments an Adibasi girl. When we eame to know and hm* been urging them to be more about it we arranged for a protest meeting vigilant. I tlv ik, our taking up some matters and m response to our request a Commission with the State Governments has resulted in of Inquiry was appointed. A sessions judge the detection of certain cases and the State held the inquiry and came to the finding Governments are taking all steps that are that one of the officers was criminally guilty necessary to detect these cases. and the other two were his accomplices. Because the State Government of Orissa is As a;j,uds the particular Ganjam Dis­ a reactionary government, instead of helping trict case. 1 do not have any information the enquiry, lhey heljwd the accused officers; about this; therefore, I cannot say anything they did not permit even the sending of now. witnesses to Beihampur to the court of the District Judge. Is the Central Government SHRI D. K. PANDA : What about the going to give free legal aid to these Adivasi inquiry comrniiiee ? That was my specific people ? question.

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : The MR. SPEAKER : This was a very specific hon. Member has raised a number of points question and not a very general question. which do not arise out of this particular incident on which the call-attcntion is based. SHRl PI LOO MODY (Godhra): All He generally talked of the development of lost ' Where are those girls. ? Adivasis, particularly about starting of metaj-based industries in Tribal areas where SHRl ARJUN SETHI (Bhadrak) : Sir, most of the iron ore mines are situated. A it is a very serious problem. This was lot of industries arc being started and from discussed in Parliament not once but many time to time the Government has been times. Many Members of Parliament have taking steps for the amelioration of the drawn the attention of the Minister and the general condition of the Tribal people. Government to this so that the condition of the weaker section of the people and their As regards this particular incident, it is fife may be safeguarded by the Government. not correct to say that the Government of But wnat appears from the statement i$ only India has not taken adequate steps in this this ; 199 Trafficking in Adhmi APRIL 25, 1972 girls in Orissa (C A.) 200

[Shri Arjun Sethi]

“In view of these incidents that had these poor Adivasi people, who are the weaker taken place last year, the State Govern­ sections of our society, have been experienc­ ment have ordered a thorough investi­ ing and facing so many difficulties and pro- gation into the entire matter through blems. the State Police C. T. D.” I want to ask (wo questions to the hon. 1 have a press report wherein the CIIJ Minister and, J hope, he will answer them. officer himself, who is now in charge of the Why is not the Government appointing a investieation, expresses his worry and special Commission of Inquiry for the anxiety. He said: purpose of dealing with the cases of such nature so that when any case of such nature .according to the investigation so far, occurs, it goes to the Commission and it can Gorumahishani and Rairangpur tehsils be dealt with by them and every kind of of Mayurbhanj diMrict were the mam delay may be eradicated ? Secondly, why is centres of trafficking in women since the not the Government creating some special iron ore mines in Gourumahishani were cells foi the Adivasi dominated areas to see closed in 1967 creating unemployment that contractors and the men of motive may among the Adivasi labour there. not exploit these poor Adiva&i people.

About 2,000 Anivasi girls from these SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : The tehsils had been taken out of the State hon. Member referred to the press report this year and the wherer bouts of most that 2000 girls have been kidnapped from of them were unknown aftei their these areas. But the State Government has departure...” informed us that it is not true that 2000 oi any large number of girls have been kidnap­ But from the statement, it appears that all ped They aie not aware of it. Whatever these facts have not been taken notice of. cases arc with them, (hey aie investigating Moreover, the Government has given the them and, particularly the two cases out of chargc to C. I. D. to investigate all these which this Calling Attention notice arose are matters. When the investigating officer being very thoroughly investigated by the himself has expressed worry and anxiety over State Government branch of the C. 1. D. these things, I am afraid, how he can inquire Firstly, it was the normal police which were into these things and see that justice is meted looking into it but because of the important out to these poor Adivasi people. nature of the case, they have brought in their C. I. D. agency for investigating into it. Further, article 23 of the Constitution says ; As regards the hon. Member’s suggestion “ Traffic in human beings and beggar and for appointment of the Special Commission other similar forms of forccd labour arc of Inquiry to deal with such cases in order prohibited and any contravention of to avoid delay, r beg to state that it is not this provision shall be an offence puni­ possible to have a Commission of the type shable in accordance with law.” suggested by the hon. Member. We have under the laws of our land the courts which This is the guarantee gi\ en in Chapter III, try such coses and it is, basically, the respon­ sibility of the State Government to investigate Fundamental Rights, of our Constitution. and send these cases for trial. Why is it that the Central Government has asked the State Government, the State officials, to inquire into this matter ? I think, As regards the general question of aboli­ it is the primary responsibility of the Central tion of the contract labour and other ways Goveri.ment to inquire into all these matters of dealing with tae situation, I am not in a because these are the people who have been position to say anything at present. This is subjected to inhuman treatment from times a much wider question on which the Labour immemorial and, since our Independence, Ministry may be able to say something. 501 Trafficking In Adivasi VAISAKHA 3, 1894 {S iKA) girls in Orlsia (C.A.) 202

SHRI B. R. SHUKLA (Bahraich) : In the mining operations. It appears that some the Statement which has been given to us, unscruplous elements are involved in this it is stated that the closure of mining opera­ nefarious thing. The other question which 1 tions in ccrtain areas has thrown out of would like to ask is this, whether these girls employment many girls belonging to Sche­ had been or arc being used for immoral pur­ duled Tribes and to othei weaker sections of poses in brothais. It has also been reported the community. Now. the closure of opera­ in the press that these girls, after having tions took place pretty long lime ago, I think, been kidnapped on the lure of employment, in the year, 1967. I request the hon. Minis­ are being used in brothels. ter to throw hght on this aspect of the matter, whether after the closing of the On all these points I would like the hon. operations in that area, any steps were taken Minister to make his comments and to to rehabilitate those percons who were thrown enlighten the House. out of employment bccause the reported eases arc not ordinary cases of kidnapping SHRI RAM NIWAS M1RDHA : It is and abduction undei the Indian Penal Code; true that these mines were closed in 1967, this affects a particulai community which and iince then there has been some constitutes a very weak section of our popula­ unemployment in that area. I myself said tion. Prevention of trafficking in girls and that as an introduction to the statement that women for immoral purposes is the direct I made. That is the background why this responsibility of the Centre. Moicover, it area has particularly attracted this sort of has also been reported in press that the crime. I cannot say what ameliorative steps Inspector-General of Police of Orissa, were taken to see that unemployment caused Sl’ri V. V. Mishia, has made a public by this closure was not aggravated. 1 am not announcement about the menacing situation in a position to say that at present. But there arising out of these case'*. If it had been are a number of other industries that are merely a case of just kidnapping or some coming up in the neighbourhood. It is isolated case concerning a few girls, certainly presumed that a number of these workers it would not have been a matter of such who were working in the mines formerly public importance as to constitute the sub- must have gone to work in these industrial ject-mattcr of a call attention motion. But it townships. It was as part of the exodus to appears that there is something deeper, some the industrial townships that this particular thing more serious. Otherwise, such a high aspect of the matter has come to light, dignitary as the Inspector-General of Police namely, kidnapping of women or enticing of would not have gone to make a public warning women from these tribal areas to areas where about these matters. So, the fact that there are there are industries or where employment is only two isolated cases which have been re­ available. ported with the local police does not mean that the trouble is confined only to those two cases Well, as regards the Commission of which have comc to light. Through you, Sir, Inquiry which the hon. Member has sug­ I would ask the hon. Minister whether he gested, I do not think that it will serve any is going to institute a broad-based inquiry- purpose. There have been two or three cases through a committcc of inquiry—to find out which have come to notice as L mentioned as to how many cases, as a matter of fact, and certain cases are under investigation. have taken place in this context, and whether The names of culprits have also been identi­ the recurrence of such cases in future would fied. There are some contractors, subcon­ be prevented by providing suitable jobs and tractors and certain small gangs who are employments to these young girls. It is also doing this work and necessary action is being intriguing in this context that both males taken and enquiries made. It is not as if and females have been thrown out of employ­ the whole thing is not known. The extent of ment. The closing operation would not have mischief is also known and the State Govern­ affected only some young girls; it would have ment is taking concrete steps to apprehend equally affected the other persons who are the culprits and particularly the ring leaders. males but nothing untoward has happened to That is what we have been impressing upon then. It means that the genesis of the trouble them. The people who ha\e been organising lies somewhere else then in the unemploy­ this thing on a commercial basis are the ment of the girls as a result of thf closure of worst criminals than their agents or 'Hher 203 Trafficking in Adivasi APRIL 25. I9T2 girls in Oris

(Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha people taking them away. The Sia*c G ovctii- to them, to apprehend the culprits, because ment has given certain names of persons who the young Adivasi girls have been sold to the are involved in this and they are making brothels ? In remoise, in anguish and in sym­ enquiries against them. pathy I say, shame to those persons in authority thcie who have not been able to The Central Government ate deeply con­ protect the honour of our women, the cerned about this thing. Larltei also, when­ honour of the adivasis and who have not ever we received such information, on our been able to prevent staiintim your people. own, we had taken up the miittei with the Even when there are starvation deaths State Governments. They infoim us about which we pointed out, they denied them. the action taken. Wc aie in constant touch But they were the persons who would unlease with them. We have otTeiul oui services, the brutal police actions against a peaceful services of the Central police agencies. If demonstration, against the kadei of the they so desire, foi checking this most obnox­ opposition and beating. Members of Parlia­ ious racket. ment and MLAS on 6th January, 1972. Here is a matter which needs the immediate attention of the Government of India. The SHRI CHINTAMAN1 P\NIGRAHI hon Ministfi should not tieat it so lightly— (Bhubaneswar): This is a grau* and serious the Jionom of our women is involved. This matter. They commit a most heinous crime. is what I would j>a>, Sir. This matter i* beng treated lightly by the Government. ( Interruption) SHRI JYOTfRMOY BOSU : On a point of ordei,., S1IRI B I*. MAURY\ (llapui) : They must give spccml protection to those sections of the people. ( httenuption) SHRl CIIlNTAMANI PANIGRAHI : He is a CPM fellow; he is m league with the Syndicate people thcie. What is the point of SHRl KART1K ORAON (Lohardagu) : order ? He is a CPM Member who is in We are not satisfied with a Calling Attention league with the Swatantra Mcmbets there. Notice. Wo warn to have discu&MMi for if They aie members who suppotted XJtkal hours. (Into iuption) Congress again.st the National Congress in recent by elections there. SHRl CHIN7AMANJ PANIGRAIH : I want to bring this to the notice ol the hon SHRl SURENDRA MOHANTY Minister. He should not treat this mattci so (Kendrapara) : What docs the bon. Member lightly. So far as I understood, !.e is also opposite think ol himself ? I rise on a point having the feeling that thcie is something of order... which is hidden, which must come to light. The e. i. d. investigating officer who inves­ tigated into this matter himself has said that SHRI CH1NTAMANI PANIGRAHI : 2,000 adivasi girls have been taken away. Sir, please see the combination. He specifically mentioned the number. 2,000 adivasi guls had been taken away to other SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : What States, U. P., Bihar, Punjab and other states. is this ? What does the hon. Member opposite One thing has become cleat. As the hon think of himself ? He is crossing the limits Minister said, a gang is operating. Names of decency and he is utilising this forum, for of the contractors have come to notice. political vendetta. Names of certain persons whe ate taking these girls have come to light. Sir, this is SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras not a new thing. Since 196* till today, till North) : The hon. Member Shri Chlntamani April, 1972, has the Orissa Government Panigrahi has attacked the State Government gjveo any intimation to the Central Govern­ in a cavalier fashion. I never expcctcd that ment ? If so, what is the action taken ? Is he would indulge in such an attack to des- it not the duty of the Central Government credit the State Government which is an to come to (heir rescue and render assistance Opposition Government. 205 Trafficking in Adivasi VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) girls in Omsa (C.A.) 206

DR KAILAS (Bombay South) He is expunction of those remarks ? You yourself stating only the facts.., (Interruption*) have admitted that he has gone too far.

“§HRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU We die not MR SPFAKER After all, everv Member going to be shouted down here in this has the light to sa> that such and such State manner. Government have tailed in their duty The hon Member himself says it every time,., Abiding by the ruling granted by the Chair a couple of years ago, we have accep­ *HR! K M \N O H A R A N After you ted a code of conduct here, namely that we have sud that he has gone too far is it not shall not take in our hands a long stick to light on youi part to expunge those observa­ beat the State Government or the Chief tions *> Minister with, whatever may b*‘ then politi­ cal affiliations, because the Centre or tins SHRI nOHRWOY BOSU 1 could Paihament has no right to uiUeise the State give >ou one example where 1 had attacked Government or the State Assembly «>i its a State Government on the floor of the Chief Minister here on the floor ol the House Hou,e and jou had expunged it. So, what because they are not heie to delend them­ jo u aie ‘•a^uig ts not d ir e c t selves Now, Shri Chintamam Panigiahi, an old veteran Congressman has behaved in this SHRI 1* M M HIIA (Bhavnagar) This manner, but we aie sorr> to lind that he has is no asunuloi (ustonc State only, but not been pulled up at all by the Clmr I Ins it is a matter of shame foi the whole country whole thing should be expunged trom the It is a mattei of shame for all records This cannot go on record it should be expunged from the letords SHRI PUOO MODY (Godhia) They go and Kidnap these girls and then they SHRI CHINTAMAM PANIC.RAIII blame the Government The hon Member opposite thinks that any­ thing can be expunged } SHRI SLR1 NDRA MOHANTY On a point of ordti Is it in order for the hon. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSLJ I submit Member to before you that the whole thini; should be expunged from the reeoids. MR SPr \K f R The hon. Minister said tint th Stile Government were doing everv- MR SPEAKER Shri Chintamam Pam- thirv I he hon Membci said that the State grahi belongs to that State, and, therefore as Govei iiiieiit weic not doing everything T feel, he has got quite emotional So tar as What is w rtng about it ’ the State Government were concerned, the hon Minister replied th it the Suuc Govern­ SHRI SUR1NDRA MOHANTY ment were doing everything Shri Chintamani lnmieiJ»es w e r e m ide suggesting that the Pamgrahi ts contradicting the hon Minister's Slate Govcmmtnt wcu failing in their duty statement 1 think he went just a little futhei, lhe innuendo was .( hit irrupt tons) It is for but there is no point of older in tt t h e Speaker to decide, and not for the hon. Members SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU I a n soriy SH.xl JYO!lKMO\ BOSU May I ask to see this attitude on yout part that theie my hon fiiends thiough you, Sir, what they is no point of order What jou have said had done when lor instance, 14 Santhals should be expunged We fiom the Opposition wete beaten to death by a foimer Congress expect protection from the Chair His observa­ Speaker in Bengal > W h it did they do about tions against the State Government should it tfm,t(lutciiuptw ns) Their own Congress­ be expunged. men had been muidenng tubals everywhere ...( Inten^ptiom ) SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Since you yourself, Str, have said that he has gone too MR SPFA kLR I think only a few far, ts it not right on your paif to order the dass back, the Ik n. Member himself made 2 0 7 Trafficking In Adlveul APRIL 23, 19Y2 girte in Orissa ( C.A.) 1 0 *

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such a virulent attack against the West SR ? <1*% f tr W* STHt ^ t | Bengal Government and the Chief Minister * f ft *rrt $3r ¥t there. He himself did it % f t i t o SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Where ? 5TPTJT it f t *TT| 3TT^% W T * * I Never. That was something dilterent On a 5 * 1 spftc vt tresrwt *rr a w ftaT ^rrff point of order, Sir... a ftr arrq-srt m 3 tr > =*rff2r i ^ *irftrt % SHRI K MANOHARAN One wrong ^ TT SFT S T S X ^ § I WIT cannot be subsituted by another wrong. farm tfT *TC*>TT *t ft, ‘ * Now, we are discussing about the present situation.., SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU We con­ «HR1 JYOTIRMOY BOSU : 1 ha\e done demn thts, but we do not appiove of this nothing wiong. What you arc saying is not idea We condemn the atiocities committed. correct. Fribals were murdered m Bihar by Congress­ man Interruptions ) DR. SARAD1SH RO> (Bolput): You aie not impartial «ft «rto qto : *rr! srfffsr

SHRI &URLNDRA MOHANTY The $ i f *H r*fi 5TFPT Jr jft, innuendo that he had suggesttd was that the r s r m t w *r s n m $T»ft Slate Government of Omsj had been srV i ^ anwta p r fa encouraging this kind ot abduction It was entirely wrong... (fntenuptiom) Let it be s r f m * t w t *rt verified whether these are facts Othei wise, s r k w m sf»rf i those obseivations should be expunged

MR. SPLAKER , Shri B P Maurya MR. SPEAKER : Whatever be the may kindly sit down now reasons, whosoevei’s fault it may be, from the story that came out, the feelings that we have on this are verj different things and I SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA must say that under that impression wc are (Begusarai) . My humble submission is that bound to be earned away by emotions also... it should be your pleasure to examine the records and find out if something undignified SHRI SURENDRA MOHAN IY But has been said about a State Government, how does he suggest that the Onsaa Govern­ and if jou find it necessary to expunge the ment encourages it . remarks, you may expunge them.

MR. SPEAKER Let not Shri Chinta- MR SPEAKER • I will see to it. mam Pamgrahi please do it. SHRI B. P. MAURYA : He is talking SHRr PILOO MODY : Am I to take it of the remarks, but I am talking of human that the Speaker of the Lok Sdbha is also life, and 1 am talking of our respect and I trying to say that the Government of Orissa am talking of our womanhood; they are talk­ is aiding and abetung this. ing of words, but I am talking of our womanhood... MR SPEAKER ; Well, I shall tell him when 1 go to my chamber, how I feel about MR. SPEAKER : May I request the bon. it. " Member now to resume his seat ?

: W STOTT wft SHRI B. P. MAURYA : It is really a w r r f f H % irre «rf f err? matter of shatne that when such an zmpor- 20* Trafficking in Adivasi VAISAKHA 5, I894 iSAKA) girls in Orissa (C.A.) 210 tant issue is being discussed, they are talking SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : The of points of order... % exact figure has also not been given by them.

MR. -SPEAKER : May I request him to AN HON. MEMBER : The State Govern­ sit down now ? ment is fooling the Central Government.

SHRI K.D, MALAVIYA (Domariaganj): SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA: As I Am I to understand from what Shri Piloo said earlier, we are in touch with the State Mody has said that we are going to minimise Government not only when this incident the gravity of the situation which has been came to our notice, but continuously for a pinpointed here ? long time. It was our own agencies which brought these things to our notice and we SHRI D. K PANDA : About this mat­ on our own have been taking up this matter ter... with the Governments of Bihar and Orissa, and we would continue to do

AN HON. MEMBER : In 1967 ? SHRI VASANT SATHE : 1 am coming to the question. The question is, what are you, the Central Government, doing ? SHRl VASANT SATHE : We do not Because this problem covers the whole know how many were taken in 1967. He country. Therefore, this Stale Government speaks about this year. He says : may be guilty, and what action is to be taken against them is also iclevant. What action “The whereabouts of most of them were are you taking against the State Govern­ unknown after their departure.” ment ?

Secondly, what arc we doing to have this This is the version of the State CID officer problem basically tacklod, so that in urban and yet the State Government has the check aieas, these women, these girls, are not to inform the Central Government that brought and sold like chattel here ? That is nothing serious is taking place. Not only the basic thing I hat is a peimaiicnt pro­ this, but what is most painful and shameful blem not only in this ca->e but m every case, is this. If they were taken from one State in Bombav, Calcutta and Delhi What are to another and given jobs by these contrac­ we going to do about that ? I hat is the first tors somewhere else, in Punjab or U P. or and fundamental question Now'net e have somewhere else, it could be understood But you stated what action Ins been taken that was not why they have been taken agamsl all these contractor You know who away. The CID officer himself says : the contractors are. The women have re­ ported against these \u> contiactuis What action has the State Government taken “However, investigations based on the against them ? Ihe> have brought and sold new formal complaints received so far them in Punjab oj Uttar Pradesh, Is that showed that the labour contractors or not under youi jurisdiction, or wul you say traffickers posing as contractors usually that “ we aie not concerned with it and it is received Rs. 100 per girl.” for the Punjab oi the UP Government 7” Can we teally thiov* uwa> our hands and What can be more shameful than this that say that wc aie riot responsible m the human beings are sold in this age, even matter ? 1 want to know from the Central now in Free India “A large number of Government what action are wc taking to these girls eventually reached brothels in see that those jjailty in- brought to book by Punjab and Uttar Pradesh from where their youtcelf if the Stale Government fills Arc ignorance, and distance from home made we gouts' to be helpless '* H u t is what I their escape almost impossible.” Mr. Das want to know, added. SHRl B. P. MAURYA : What measures aie you going to take 0 AN HON. MEMBER : Shame, shame.

SHRI RAM NJWAS MIRDHA: We SHRl VASANT SATHE : This is have seen press reports that a large number what the investigating officer has to say. of girls have been kidnapped from this area. What 1 want to submit is that this malaise Even the figure ol 2,000 has been mention­ is something deeper, something basic, and ed. Wc took it up with the State Govern­ we cannot really have a casual approarh to ment, and .is I said eailier m my statement, this problem. This is ingrained in fact in they deny that 2,000 or any large number our whole system; this new class, the con­ of girls are involved in this. tractors’ class which is an appendage to the present capitalistic system, this new-rich AN HON. MEMBER : Have a Parlia­ class, particularly in the urbanised sectors, mentary Committee appointed. {Interruption) poses this problem.

SHRI B. P. MAURYA : They have got MR. SPEAKER : Come to the question the vigilance department. Whal is their very soon. vigilance doing V 213 Trafficking in Adivatl VAISAKHA S , 1 8 9 4 (SAKA) P. A. C. Reports 214 girls in Orissa (C.A.) MR. SPEAKER : Do not interrupt. and Scheduled Tribes. We want a full dis­ cussion on this subject. SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : About the investigating officer that made the state­ MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down; I am ment or is alleged to have made, thp state­ standing now. ment—we have nothing to say on that. But we referred all these facts for the comments ( ^ r ) : snarer of the State Government. This is what they informed us, that except iti certain cases w fare* qr st ^ spV frtift which have been registered and which are i being properly investigated into, no large- scale kidnapping cases have taken place. MR. SPEAKER . I shill look into it. I That is what the State Government states. should also request ihc whip on this side to (Interruption) 1 hope the hon. Members will please see that when the Speaker is standing understand and appreciate the limited no Member gets up. It is too bad...(/«h?r- function that the Central Government can ruptions ) If you want a discussion, let the perform in respect of the particular cases hon. Minister (ind time; I have no objection. registered in the State Government.

SHRI B. P. MAURYA: Not with regard 13*01 hrs. to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. RELEASE O f MEMBER SIIRT RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : Even then*, the Government h:is been very con­ (Shri Bhogcndra Jim) cerned and active in exercising a general responsibility that devolves on us through MR. SPEAKER : I have to inform the the Constitution for the welfare of the back­ House that I have received the following ward classes. But 1 still do not think that telegram, dated the 24th April, 1972 from it gives us the power to go and take over the Sub-Divisional Magistrate, Mirzapur : police powcis of a particular State and arrest those peisons on our own. All that we can “Shri Bhogendia Jha, Member, Lok do is lo work in concert with the State Sabha. who was detained in District Jail, Governments. I do hope that the Slate Mir/apur, for tiial undet section 1H8, Government is also alive to the situation as Indian Penal Code, was released from it is, and we will constantly be in touch with jail on the 24th April, 1^72, on furnish­ them and we will get some more facts about ing personal bond pending trial.” the allegations that have been made in this House, and what sort of vigilance could be SHRI S. M. BANLR.TEE (Kanpur) : He maintained by the Central Government. We is a Member of Parliament... (Interruptions) would act in concert with the State Govern­ MR. SPEAKER : ft is only for civil ment to the utmost possible extent and I do cases, not criminal. hope that the culprits who have been named will be brought to book; some of them are absconding. We are after it. I would not like to discuss all that we have done or all that 13*02 h rs. our branches have done all over the country. J can assure the House that the Government PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE of India feels greatly concerned at things like this and it will do all in its power to see FouT'sr-THim* anu IY H m -v n m i that those offenders are brought to book... (Interruptions.) SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam) : I beg to present the following Reports of the >3 hr*. Public Accounts Committee :—

SHRI KARTIK ORAON ; This is not (1) Forty-third Rcpoit regarding Chapter enough. Please protect the Scheduled Castes II oi* Report of the Comptroller and 215 D. 0. Min. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 216

[Shti Sezhiyan]

Auditor General of India for the «3'°5 hr*. year 1969-70 Central Government (Civil)-Revenue Receipts relating to The Lok Sab ha adjoutned for Lunch Customs. till Fourteen oj the Clock.

(2) Forty-fifth Report regarding Appro­ priation Accounts (Railways), The Lok Sahha re-i\sembled after 1969-70 and Report of the Comp­ Lunch at three minutes pas troller and Auditor General of India Fourteen o f the Clock for the year 196V-70, Central Government (Railways). [Sum K. N. T i W a k v in the Chair] DEMANDS FOR GRANTS, 1972-73 —Co* ft/. COMMITTEE ON WELFARE OF

SCHEDULED CASTES AND M i n i s t r y o f E x t e r n a l A f f a i r s — Contd. SCHEDULED TRIBES SHRI DASARATHA DEB (Tripura S e v e n t h R e p o r t East) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, yesterday I was narrating how American imperialism, which SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY revealed itself as the enemy of the Indian (Cooch-Behar): 1 beg to present the Seventh people only a few months back, is now Report (Hindi-and English versions) of the attempting to subjugate another part of Committee on the Welfare of Scheduled Asia. It is a matter of great shame that for Castes and Scheduled Tribes on the Ministry years the Government of India, which were of Defence (Department of Defence Produc­ heavily depending on American loans, tion)—Reservations for Scheduled Castes would not condemn American aggression in and Scheduled Tribes in the Defence Public Vietnam. The Government of India have Sector Undertakings. so far followed a policy of relying on foreign aid, particularly US aid. Their policy regard­ ing the Provisional Revolutionary Govern­ ment is still more regrettable. Even today 13*04 hr*. there is a tendency on the part of the Government of India to equate the puppet DEMANDS FOR GRANTS Government in Saigon with the Provisional 1972-73 -Contd. Revolutionary Government established by the people in South Vietnam. This is totally M i n i s t r y o f E x t k iin At. A f f a i r s — Contd wrong. This is a damaging attitude which is indirectly helping the American imperialists MR. SPEAKER : We shall continue to cover up the American aggressive design with the discussion on the Ministry of against the freedom-loving people of External Affairs for the whole of this day Vietnam. and some time will be left tomorrow, Our party has always been demanding THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL that India should recognise the Provisional AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): I Revolutionary Government of South shall need about 40-45 minutes. Vietnam and sever its diplomatic relations with the Saigon Government. But I am M R. SPEAKER ; Tomorrow we will sorry to note that the Government of India have about on hour and a half for this is still hesiting to take positive steps in this Ministry of which the hon. Minister will direction. take 40-45 minutes; the rest of the time Will be available fox hon. Members even Our party welcomes the statement of the tomorrow. Shri Deb may now continue his Government of India calling for the with­ Speech; be may take another ten minutes. He drawal of all foreign forces from the soil o f will begin his speech after lunch. Vietnam and holding the American Govern* 217 D. C. Mitt, of VA1SAKHA 5. 1894 (S/UT/I) Ext. Affairs 218 meat responsible for the conflict. We also China. The present condition, we consider, welcome that the Government has accepted is more favourable to normalise and establish the seven-point programme sponsored by the friendly relations with China and Pakistan, PRG. But, at the same time, we feel, consi­ both. Our party welcomes every step taken dering the extreme gravity of ths situation in that direction despite all hurdles that and the vital issues involved, that this state­ come in the way. ment along is too inadequate to meet the situation. The Government of India should In this report it is mentioned that the take positive steps to help the fighting forces Foreign Minister, addressing the UN of the Vietnamese people and, first of all, Security Council on the 21st December, recognise the Provisional Revolutionary 1971, said ; Government and sever all relations with the puppet Government of South Vietnam which “In the course of this conflict, as also had recently been heaping one insult after in 1965, it was crossed by troops of another on the Indian people and creating Pakistan at various places. India had, all hurdles in the functioning of the Inter­ therefore, to cross this line then, as now. national Control Commission. There is thus need to avoid the repetition of such incidents by making some This puppet Saigon Government remains adjustments in the cease-fire line in as a cancer in the whole of Asia, particularly order to make it more stable, rational in Indo-China, endangeriug the peace and and viable. This we propose to discuss independence of the nations in the Asian and settle with Pakistan. ” continent. It is a crime on the part of the Government of India to continue to recog* I feel, this spirit and attitude of the nisc a Government which acts as an agency Government of India should be maintained of foreign imperialism and is responsible for and pursued. In the ensuing summit talks getting its own citizcns murdered in thou­ between Pakistan and our Government, they sands through aerial bombings. should take up this matter and-—1 have no hasitation in saying—even if some minor Regarding Bangla Desh, we have very adjustment is necessary, it should be made friendly relations with the newly born State just to settle all outstanding disputes. of Bangla Desh. But we must not be blind in seeing that some anti-social forces, in Regarding China, in the Report, the furthering the vested interests on both sides, Government express its desire to normalise encourage illicit trade and large-scale smug­ its relations with People’s Republic of gling which puts the new State's economy China. We welcome this attitude. In fact, under great stress and strain. Unless the we have been demanding that for years Government takes effective steps to curb together. But, 1 say, the mere expression of such activities of interested parties on this a desire will not do. We should go further side of the border, the good neighbourly than that. Concrete steps in achieving this relations between India and Bangla Desh objective should be thought over to open the built up in the course of the great sacrifices negotiation and settle the dispute with will be in jeopardy. China.

No individual capital should be allowed Our party urges upon the Government to flow to Bangla Desh. If India wants to of India to pursue a consistent policy of give aid, it should give aid to the newly peace and non-alignment instead of playing born State of Bangla Desh but it must flow between the camps of imperialism and from Government to Government level; socialism. For the last 20 years, the Govern­ otherwise, these greedy capitalists might be ment of India has been playing between creating more troubles there and thereby out these two camps, that is, the impesialist relations might deteriorate. camp and the socialist camp. On many an occassion, we find, on the pressure of With regard to Paki*£afi, it has been our American Government, the Government of stand always to try to settle the dispute with India have refused Soviet aid. This should the neighbouring States *of Pakistan and not be there. We must improve our relations 219 D G Min of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext Affairs 220

{Shri Dasaratha Deb] with socialist Government If our Govern­ (4) Recognise the Government of ment pursues that policy on tht, pressuie of Combodia headed by Sihtnouk the American Government, it will oi.ly harm our economy (*>) Break away from the British Com­ monwealth Then, we must increise our trade with (6) Raise the full diplomatic status with socialist countries I fail to understand why Korean people s Democratic Re­ the Government of India is following the public and German Democratic same old policy of no tiade relations with Republic Cuba while tiade relations with Chile have been established We urge upon the Govern­ (7) Restore trade ond eloser relations ment of IndKi to trade with both with socialist Cuba

(8) Extend all out suppor to the people Coming to the question of raual discri­ of Vietnam in their struggle against mination, India must take a bold stand American imperialism against racial djseiimination . (9) Maintain friendly relations with our MR CHAIRMAN The hon Member neighbours, B mgladesh, Pakistan may ti> to conclude now Nepal and others (10) Restore friendly relations with the SHRI DASARATHA DEB Tust 2 People’s Republic of China and clo­ minutes more ser ties with the Soviet Union and all socialist countries Our Indian people have been facing serious troubles in U S A and m other MR CHAIRMAN If you don’t conclude foreign countries also All these troubles now, nothing will go on record I am calling arose mamly bccausc th< Governments ol another Member Shu Unmknshnan those countries die pursuing the policy of racial discrimination You vondcmn racial SHRI DASARATHA DIB Just half discrimination ol U S \ But you do not a minute condemn racial discrimination piactised by the British Government Yciy recently, the British Government imposed 15 percent Lastly, extend the suppoit to the African duty on oui textiles Is it not a sign of racial people’s hghtmg against the racist Govern­ discrimination ? ments of South Afnca, Rhodesia and against Portuguese imperialism and to the people of Latm Amtrica lighting againsi American MR CHAIRMAN Please conclude imperialism now

MR CHAIRMAN Now, the thing is, SHRI DASARATHA DEB I am con­ every party has been allotted time If every cluding party takes more time, then it will be very difficult for the Chair to regulate the debate In conclusion, I demand that the I will give two minutes after the first bell Government of India must take the following and, at the second bell, if the hon Mem­ steps ber does not sit, I will call another (1) They must severe diplomatic relations Member with the Saigon Government SHRI K P UNNIKRISHNAN (2) Recognise the Provisional Revolu­ (Badagara) Mi Chairman, it was a pain­ tionary Government of South Viet­ ful experience to have listened to my friend, nam immediately Shri Dasaratha Deb, because there were the (3) Demand the withdiawal of American same old cliches, the same old slogans; and forces from Indo-China forthwith it is amaztnft thus* movement he represent* 221 D. G. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 222 has not changed during the last 25 years. recognise Bangla Desh. You people were There was the same thrust of attack; his hesitating. party and his mentors had in those days called Juwaharlal Nehru “a lackey of im­ SHRl K. P. UNNIKR1SHNAN ; I do perialists” or “running dug of imperialism.” not submit to this. Despite your mentors, The refined foim of I hat movement, the the epileptic mandarins of Peking, the new Marxist Party of Shri Deb, has shown today nation of Bangla Desh has emerged and that the movement has not changed. Simi­ will continue to prosper in freedom despite larly, the thrust of attack from right has Mr. Dasaratha Deb and everybody. always been that wc were not following the (Interruption) It has added a heroic chapter policy of non-alignment but were following not only to the history of this country and a crvpto-communinst policy or whatever my sub-eontincnt but also to the history of friend, Shri Piloo Mody, would like to national liberation which Mr. Deb must call it. learn. What is more, the people who had ridiculed, the people who sent the 7th Fleet, SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : I have today recognised the reality of Bangla would like to call it, plain Soviet policy. Desh. Despite all that has happened during the last year, we want enduring peace in the SHRl K. P. UNN1KRI SHNAN : That sub-continent. We have always been prepar­ is what 1 meant. But the plain truth is that ed to talk, to negotiate, if there are any no alternative framework of foreign policy outstanding issues. But we have been very has ever been suggested in this country by clear in our minds; it should be for enduring the opposition, whether right or left. It is peace in the sub-continent; it cannot be regrettable that, durmq the last 25 years of merely for exchange of prisoners ol war or indepenpence. our opposition has never been for other peripheral or marginal aims; it able to present a coherent picture of what must be for lasting and enduring peace in foreign poficy they would like to have in the sub-continent. this countiy iV they came to power. This has been the most regrettable feature... Similarly, during the last year, there (Interruptions) A s far as we are concerned, have been significant changes in the inter­ there is no question—no apologies are national landscape. New alignments have needed* of returning to commitments taken place, new relationships, new power because wc have always stood by them; wc equations, have taken place, which are have stood for enduring peace in this w'orld; bound to have a lasting impression on the wc have stood foi anti-imperialism and events to come not only in a year or two enlightened national interest. Mr. Piloo but probably on all the international Mody might laugh at us, but 1 can tell you problems viewed in a longer perspective. that w'e have stood for enduring peace. The cracking empire of dollar has forced the United States into new postures. SHRl PILOO MODY : I am laughing. In my view it is really not merely a question The whole world is laughing at you. of individual whims of President Nixon or (Interruption) of his Parly, but it is basically the crisis of multi-national firms that the United States SHRI K. P. UNNIK.R1S1INAN : economy has thrown up, of the military During the last one year we have had industrial complex over which President significant changes in the whole of the sub­ Nixon presides, that has forced them into continent. The most significant fact has been new postures and new alignments. I am the emergence of Bangla Desh. It has shown very clear about it. This is of considerable that despite the 7th Fleet, despite the White significance to us, and we have answered House spokesman,., (interruption) and despite this w?ith a principal treaty with the Soviet M r . Piloo Mody and despite Mr, Dasaratha Union last August—the Indo-Soviet Treaty. Deb, a new nation with 75 million people I don’t know whether Mr. Piloo Mody has come into being... (interruption) welcomed it or not, but the entire country, the entire 550 million people or our country, SHRI DASARATHA DEB : We were the entire Indian political spectrum, wel­ the first people to ask the ^Government to comed it. 223 D.

SHRI PI LOO MODY : You should never said—go with a begging bowl. Nothing know, 1 condemned it. 1 am telling you for of that sort. the fifth time, 1 condemned it. I still con­ demn it. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : If it means reciprocity then certainly we will have SHRI K. P. UNN1KRISHNAN : The to consider what steps we have to take. Bnt most significant new development m Europe realistically speaking, I don’t think it would has been the Berlin agreement. I hope it be possible in the foreseeable future. will be ratified because we have also a stake in peace in that part of the world because Regarding our relations with the USA, Europe is a very vital factor in the inter­ during the last year the relations have been national relations. This also gives us new deteriorating day by day The culmination opportunities and new rcsponsiblities. of this was the entry of the Seventh Fleet in Geographically we arc in a position to the Bay of Bengal. Kissinger and Nixon had influence; we are the largest country of the to learn that Bay or Bengal will not be Asian region. The idea of collcctive security a Bay of Pigs. Whatever they may say of Asian Region is no* merely a part of the about the cold bloodness of our Pnme Brezhnev doctrine; it is an lndi'tn doctrine. Minister or otherwise, we shall firmly I would like to tell this to Mr. Piloo reject being satellite of any country whether M ody... it be Soviet Union or United States. We have always stood for mdepennence SHRI PILOO MODY : Now they have and we will always stand foj national adopted Brezhnev ! independence and sovengnty. Unfortu­ nately 1 have heard reports that our SHRI K. P. UNNIKR1SHNAN : It is Ambassadoi in the United States said some­ indian doctrine because India wants the thing. I don’t know what he means when he security of Asia. India wants security. It has says that India and U.S. have to be closer. always been the concept for which the vota­ But, Ambassadors don't make policies in ries of peace have worked... this countiy, The foreign policy of this country is decided here in this House and SHRI PILOO MODY: You always by the Government and the Prime Minister. opposed it all ihesc year. The USA will have to understand the realities and come to us rather than our SHRI K. P. UNNlKRfSHNAN : Peace going to them. and security in the Asian region, in the Regarding West Asia there have been his- South-East Asia is vital. It will make its vital contribution for peace in the world torical relations in the past. Many critics have sought a revision of our policy. Friends like and we have to make our contribution. Mr. Piloo Mody have said this. They said, As for the Indo-Soviet Treaty, the in view of the reaction of some of the Arab Soviet Union has stood by us and it is pro­ States we should review our relations. bably the only country that stood by us But f must say there is no question of any through thick and thin. They will continue review of our situation because our friend­ to be with us; and 1 am sure our relations ship with the Arabs is vital. When I had with Soviet Union and East European an opportunity some months age to visit countries will improve from strength to some of the Arab countries, I said this in strength. unmistakable terms ‘we are sorry and we are deeply hurt at your attitude, but I hope you Last year during this Debate I was the will understand that our attitude towards first man to suggest improvement of relations you will not be conditioned by this because with China. I do not know whether Mr. Das- we have vital and lasting stakes in this aratha Deb wants us to go with a begging friendship. Similarly, I hope the External bowl and touch the feet of Chairman Mao. Affairs Ministry will make use of opportuni­ If that to so, our answer is a firm no. ties in Latin America to build closer rela­ tions, not only with Chile, as Shri Dasaratha SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras Deb mentioned, but also explore new possi­ North): He never mentioned like that. He bilities in Venezuela and Colombia. 225 D. G. Min. of VA1SAKHA 5, 19)4 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 226

SHRI DASARATHA DEB : What about country, much depends upon developments at C uba? { home. As Jong as India's* internal policies are guided by our Prime Minister and our party SHRI K. P, UNN1KRISHNAN : We which has received a decisive mandate, I am have good relations with Cuba. sure this country's international prestige will go up and we will be able to stand erect in this world, f am sorry India has not been as active as she has been ia the past in the disarma­ ment negotiations or in the whole concept SHRI H. N. MUKERJEfc (Calcutta and range of problems connected with North-East) : I beg to move : disarmament. A great friend of India, Prof. Gunnar Myrdal, and other friends of India “That the Demand under the Head all over the world hove been considerably External Affairs be reduced by Rs. 100.” concerned, and they had occasion to tell some of us about India's attitude towards (Need for developing close commercial the disarmament problem. I hope Fxtemal and cultural links with Cuba, Chile and Affairs Minister will take note of this. other Latin American countries rstruggling against American imperialism (18)]. I would conclude by referring to the problems of our foreign service which arc “That the Demand ^under ’ the Head very vital. As 1 said earlier, though we External Affairs be reduced by Rs. 100.” make policies, the people who have to implement^hem are the Ministry of External [Need for special effoitjo rectify the lag Affairs as well as the embassies abroad. I in India’s relationship with forward-looking am glade that led by officials like Shi i countries in Africa'(19)]. T. N. Kaul, Shri D. P. Dhar and others excellent work has been done by them during the last year. But I am not quite sure that “That the • Demand under the Head some of our embassies are functioning well. Exterernal Affairs be reduced by I would not like to name them. 1 had an Rs. 100.” experience of one when I was in Paris. 1 wanted to meet Louis Aragon. One officer [Need for immediate establishment of full came along and asked : ‘Who is Louis diplomatic relations .with the German Demo­ Aragon V In this case I told him his Educa­ cratic Republic (20)]. tion and training has been sadly neglcted. Is this their training ? If this is so, it is “That the Demand under the Head unfortunate. External Affaiis be reduced byRs. 100.”

There is an impression in this country that our foreign seivice officers are highly [Need for immediate recognition of the paid. I would like to remove this. An officer Provisional Revolutionary Government of in any public sector undertaking starts life South Vietnam (21)]. on Rs. 1250. But an IFS officer, class I, begins on Rs. 400. 1 must say the whole SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond range of problems connected with foreign Harbour) : 1 beg to move : services must be thoroughly investigated because we cannot allow such a vital service to suffer from this kind of deficiency. In the “That the Demand under the Head UK, they had the Duncan Commission to go External Affairs be reduced to Re 1.” into such problems. I would suggest that we appoint a Commission to explore the pos­ {Failure to severe diplomatic relation with sibilities not only of increasing the salary but the U. S. Puppet regime, of South Vietnam also examining other related problems. (22)].

In conclusion, 1 would only say that “That the Demand under the Head after all, when we project ttfe image of a External Affairs be reduced to Re. I,” 227 D. G. Mm of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext Affairs 228

[Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu]

[Failure to condemn the U S impen- [Need for reducing expenditure of the alists* military intcn cation in Vietnam Laos country's Fmbassies and Missions abroad and Cambodia m unequivocal ttrms (23)] (10)]

“That the Demand under the Head “That the Demand under the Head External Affans be leduced to Re 1 Txternal Affairs be reduced by Rs 100 ”

[Failure to take positive and vigorous [Urgent need for normalising relations steps to safeguard the interests ol lndnns with the Peoples Republic of China on the who have been living in fortign countries basts of the five pimciplcs of peaceful co­ (24)] existence O l)]

“That the Demand undei the Head ‘ That the Demand under the Head External Affairs be reduced to Re 1 ’ F xternal Affnrs be reduced by Rs 100 ’

[Failure to give diplomatic recognition to the Provisional Revolutionary Government [Urgent need for maintaining and pro of South Vietnam (2*5)] moting friendly relations between India on the one hind and the countrus of Asia, Africa and I itm \nierici on the other (32)] “That the Demand under the Ikad External Affairs be reduccd to Rt 1 SHRI N SRFEKANTAN NATR (Quilon) I beg to move [Failure to give diplomatic recognition to the Democratic Republic of Gcimany (26)1 ‘That the Demand undei the Held 1 \t

[Unaccounted money under ‘ discretion­ That the Demand under the Head ary Expenditure” for which no details have Fxternal Affairs be reduced to Re 1 been or are being given and spending of this money to finance the activities, of “ Research [hulure of Indnn diplomacy in the and Analysis Wing’1 a secrcl oigamsation under the Ministry of Home Affairs headed Middle Fast and African umntnes (35)] by the Prime, Mimstci of India (28)] ‘That the Demaad under the Head “That the Demand undei the Head I xternal Affairs be reduced to Re 1 ” Fxterna! Affairs be reduced by Rs 100' [Continuance of incompetent and irres­ (Corruption m various fndnn Embassies ponsible diplomatic personnel in our Embas­ and Missions abroad (29)] sies (36)]

“That the Demand under the Head SHRl H N MUKERJEE (Calcutta- External Affairs be reduced b> North-Easi!) This is the year of the silver Rs. 100 ” jubilee of our independence and it is a happy 229 D. G. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (&4£4) Ext. Affairs 230

coincidence that participation in the glory of Otherwise, in the changed conditions even of the emergence of Bangla Dcsh and co-opera­ today, the Minister would not be found to tion in the tasks of recosnstruetion have come to this House and to argue as he did brought us something of a sense of fulfilment. the other day that he saw no evidence of it— However, the heightened perspectives of that is what Shri Swaran Singh told us the today have also placed on us further respon­ other day—there was no evidence of the sibilities both in the sphere of national and United States influencing the Saigon Govern­ of international politics. If Garibi Hatao is ment in behaving as it has done lately to us seriously intended, it is a struggle of our in India and in the International Control people to complete the national democratic Commission of which we are the Chairman. revolution. And this is closely linked with Shri Swaran Singh need not push discretion, our struggle to defeat the global strategy of in his phraseology, to ridiculous lengths. imperialism led by the United States, now in There is no need for him to certify that the crafty collusion with the Chinese leaders, both Saigon Government is an independent entity, intensely keen on somehow queering the because that is just not true. pitch for India and for Bangla Desh. Perhaps from this flows his recent stand Therefore, the performance of our in this House that the provisional revolution* national economic task" is closely linked with aiy government of South Vietnam does not the urgency of strengthening and deepening yet qualify for reconition as a State. How he our friendship and co-operation with ihe says this, in spite of what has been going on Soviet Union and other countries of the for years now in that part of the world, socialist camp. seems extra-ordinary. It is good that the Prime Minister and also the Foreign Minister Sir, I do not grudge Government and its in his own way have praised the fantastic supporters like my friend who has just spoken counge and the stupendous human spirit of and got away, a ccrtain complacency born out the liberation fighters of Vietnam which is of the happy euphoria that overtook us last almost unparalleled in history. But that December. Nothing succeeds like success, gesture has to be followed up by some and this country and especially the Foreign tangible action. Nixon has stepped up his Minister has the right to a kind of deep con­ savage assaults but he will have to get back tentment over the way things have gone. But to the conference table in spite of the report the Foreign Minister ncads also to be self- which I saw Pasted on the board there in mtrespective and self-critical. I do not like to Parliament House which says that Nixon has recall it, but it remains a fact that the Minis had a fling add has made insulting remarks tcr's first reaction to Bangla Desh was about Madam Binh suggesting that Americans entirely tepid and overcautious. There was get back to the conference table in Paris or delay in recognising the hberationist aspects elsewhere. Sooner rather than later, Nixon of the struggle rather than the philanthropic would have to got back to the conference aspects of certain problems thrown up by the table either in Pans or in some other place Bangla Desh movement. For manths, his in order somehow to save his malodorous aides in the Ministry persisted in trying to face. prove that recognition of Bangla Desh was not very important, and I shall never forget Recent experience has taught us,—at that the one and only article that was least it ought to have taught us— what to published on the issue of recognition of expect in crucial times by way of aid from Bangla Desh in the Indian and foreign imperialism. This is why t ask this Govern­ Review published by the Ministry was ment, and particularly Shri Swaran Singh against the idea of recognition. because his Demands for Grants are being discussed this afternoon. I ask him to come As 1 said, I do not want to recall these forward and declare what was nearly the things, but these are facts which have to be unanimous desire of the House the other day remembered because the trends represented when we discussed Viet-Nam, namely the in those months when shilly-shallying was recognition of the Provisional Revolutionary going on in the Foreign Ministry and also Government of South Viet-Nam. The fear elsewhere in the leadership ff the Govern­ of the United States and it friends, 1 hope ment, those trends are very much there. and trust, should be no longer a major factor 231 D. G. Min. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 232

[Shri II. N. Mukerjee] in ouj foreign policy and let us also, as remember in a public meeting in Delhi a Mr. Dasaratha Deb suggested, determine to Central Cabinet Minister referred in his severe, give up and stop all diplomatic rela­ speech to his desire to welcome very soon in tions with a puppet State, with a criminal Delhi GDR ambassador. This question has regime like that of Saigon. That this fear been hanging fire foi so long that we should of the United Slates persists in our have a sense of shame and guilt about it. country is seen in the Gosermnent's failure yet to have full embassy level diplomatic The Federal Republic of Germany can relations with a country like the GDR. blackmail us by threatening to cut off aid and we truckle down even though wc have Last session more than 500 Members of come to know what this aid business means. both the Houses, a clear majority of Parlia­ *Iho socialist countries led by the USSR be ment, gave a memorandum to the Prime have decently and cordially towards us. GDR Minister asking for the immediate recogni­ particularly is a %ery friendly country, co­ tion of the GDR which is more than over­ operative with us and we seem to be taking due. With GDR our political, economic, advantage of their civilised qualities to cultural, commercial and other relations arc unconscionably delay putting our relations extremely friendly and co-opcrative. Many on a proper State-to-State basis. Socialist nations including our neighbours like Cej Ion, countries are not poing to be vindictive but Burma and Nepal, undeterred by the old, on that basis we should not behave in the outdated scarecrow of the Hoiis*em doctrine fashion that we have been doing. Let not fully recognised GDR. Unlike the Federal this tardy procrastination continue; let the Republic of Germany, GDR showed imag na­ Government implement the often declared tive understanding over Bangla Dosh and wish of Parliament in this regaid, and with­ appreciated particularly India’s role in the out fuither delay announce the full diplomatic brave new phenomenon emerging in our sub­ recognition of the GDR. continent. Mutual and happy recognition of Bangla Desb and the GDR led to the Bonn Perhaps tomorrow at Murree discussions Government, with its tail between its legs, will stait between India and Pakistan at the rushing (o Dacca to recognise Bangla De'h. ollicidl level. I hope its course is smooth incite of the unspeakable Bhutto’s apparently In international conferences India tries histrionic but very deeply thought out politi­ to do her duty by upholding the sovereign cal gimmickry. There is India's treaty with status of the GDR. I myself attended on Bangla Desh the Soviet-Bangla Desh Joint behalf of Parliament tl.e Intcr-Pailunicntaiy Declaration following in the wake of the conference in Comeroon where the Indian Indu-Soviet Treaty on Peace, Friendship and delegation unequivocally supported the Co-operation; these are positive steps towards G D R ’s entry into that body. But it was normalising relations of peacc and security opposed by the usual western clique. This in our sub-continent, and they indicate a time the argument of the western clique was new perspective of advance. defensive; they could oflci nothing cxcept a plea for deferring the matter till the retilica- I am sure the Government will assure us tion which is due in a few weeks’ lime of that there must be no letting down of the treaties of the Federal Republic of Bangla Desh. 1 he return of the prisoners of Germany with the Soviet Union and Poland, war will obviously require Bangladesh's per­ and the ratification of the four-party agree­ mission since they had surrendered to the ment on Berlin. joint Indo-Bangla Desh command. The wishes of Bangla Desh have got to be respected over I feel that we in India should assert our the issue of the trial of war prisoners. India, self-respect as a State and wc can dem­ Pakistan and Bangla Desh must participate in onstrate our esteem for a friendly socialist talks for an overall viable peace settlement country. We could prove our concern for covering all outstanding issues. detente in Europe and for world pcacc by having immediate embassy level relations The status of Kashmir as an integral part with the GDR. A couple of years ago I of India is not a negotiable matter, but 233 D. G. Min. of VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Aj) airs 234

Pakistan sadder but wiser, may be peisuaded, also not particularly adequate to the job. I if its mischievous Western friends do not suppose if the Prime Minister can go to intervene and poke their nose into this countries like Cuba and Chile, and if the business, Pakistan may conceivably be pet- Prime Minister can try to repair our fences suaded to accept a permanent international with Zambia and Tanzania, and perhaps boundary with Jndia, with suc.i adjustments visit a country like Guinea, it would be a to the cease-fire line as may be essential to good job well done. She has, at the moment, our interests. This job is tricky and wc w ish a certain charisma, whether we like it or not, government tackle this with care, matching even for people abioad, and this asset the the devilish wits that are going to be pitted Ministry should seek to put to some use. against us.

I have some important questions to ask The recent Nixon-Chou declaration with of the Minister in regard to the Demands for China slyly tiying to slip in a point on Giants. I find, for exumple, the discretionary Kashmir is a pertent. Inside Bangladesh the expenditure of the Ministry has expanded. intensification of CIA activities had a vily The discretionary expenditure of the Ministry significance. The Anglo-American combine of External Affairs, budget estimates 1971-72 with a chain of military bases from the was Rs 12 crores. In 1970-71 it was Australian coast to Africa operates todav its Ks. 6.06,68,000 while the budget estimate aggressive global strategy, determined to fight for J 972-73 is Rs. 13,88,00,000. So, when the last ditch battle to the bitter end. The I think of the Nagarwala case and that sort latest US barbarity in Vietnam is fresh of thing, 1 begin to worry why this discre­ evidence of this threat. tionary expenditure has increased in this manner. India’s light against it ii.iist be the con­ solidation. first of all, of out friendship with I find again that to something called the Bangla Desh on the basis of demouac>, Commonwealth Secretanat, which heaven secularism and socialism, the fo:giug ol knows what work it does, and the Common­ fner.dly relations with Pakistan, and the wealth Foundation we pay nearly Rs. 15 stiengthening of good-ncighbouilines*, with lakhs. Why do we continue to pay a sizable all our neighbour States, and then with the sum of money, Rs. 1,34,000 to the Attlee help of the socialist countries we can build a Memorial ? I do not see why this country powerful shield against the Nixon lice of year after >ear should p,o on paying to the making Asians fight Asians. We can volunta- Attlee Memorial. Why is there a big increase rily oiganise a system of co-operation and in the allotment to the Indian Council for security in our Asian neighbourhood. This is Cultural Relations ? The allotment in 1971- a big job, a fundamental task, which the 72 was Rs. 14,50,000 and this year it is government must turn its attention to. Rs. 29,25,000 at a point of time when the Khosla Committee is inquiiing into the working of the Indian Council for Cultural During my recent visit abioad, I noticed Relations. the Ministry’s failure to keep in touch with countries like Chile, where a most significant experiment in revolutionary democracy is There are so many other matters but taking place, fiom which we in India must there is no time and I am sure you will stop learn. Even though there is an Embassy with me. But 1 would also like to draw the Minis­ a charge d' affaires, we have hardly any con­ ter's attention to the fact that only the other tact, and no trade, with Cuba, where a clean, day we were told — and we are told from young and exhilarating leadership is valiantly time to time — that from the PL-480 funds trying to build a socialist society. In much during the nine months since April 1971 the of Africa and the Arab world, while the amount spent on account of United States Gadaffls have done a lot of damage, there is uses in India was Rs. 33,69,00,000. The among the people — not always among the United States uses only fiom out of PL-480 governments concerned — a great deal of funds in nuie months’ time nearly Rs. 34 goodwill for India, But our diplomatic per­ crores and our Ministry’s total budget is sonnel are unequal to the task. Visiting Rs. 28 crores-and-odd plus Rs. 50 crores, Ministers and Membets of Parliament are that is Rs. 79 crores at the outside. More 2 s s jD o . ^ APRIL 25, 1972 236

[Shri H N Mukerjee]

than half the total budget of the Ministry SHRI N SREEKAN TAN NAIR (Qui- for a whole year is spent out oF PI 4 SO lon) Mr Chau man the year under question funds xn nme mouths’ time for US uses in has certainly been a >ear of great achieve­ this country This is the sort of pressure — ments in all spheres of life in the country political, economic and other kinds of pres and that is also ti ue of the 1 oreign Aftairs sure — that is orougbt on us That is why Ministiy But based on that fact when the wc have to be veiy careful The CIA works Minister claims that the embassies and the everywhere, m Bangla Desh p irticularly depaitmcnts of the Ministry are all doing today, causing all these difficulties of smug­ well 1 e is not correct My hon friend Shri gling and whatever else you choose to think U miknshnan just referred to it But either of, and we have to do something about it he did not get tune oi he did not want to finish what he had to sav I am lemmded Therefore, I say to the Minister, in con­ of what Shu Unmkrishnan said from his clusion break out of this grip, show some experience and his uimmg into contact with courage, recognise the Provisional Rcvolu thcfrmbissy sn f who did not appreciate tionary Government of South Vietnam fully our attitude to Bmgla Desh and who weie recognise the GDR, step up your hicndship more sympathetic to P tkistan than to our with the socialist camp go ahead with the ciuse Such people the icmnants ol our movement for lnendship with the neighboui officiisou are going to laise their Let us have something which will warm the sal uy, you are going to have fresh problems cockles of the heart of the Indian people when (hey come back to India Let us have something which will me*»n tint we are turning a new leaf tint we mean There was a lefcience to our immediate business that in the silver jubilee year of our neighbours You know that the Srimavo- independence, Indian foreign policy and Indian Shastn Agieement of 1964 has been a faulty national economic policy are going hand in one ‘There was no reason why they accepted hand to build a new India which will func­ 7 4 proportion The Agreement has another tion on a self-respecting basis in a new world very serious flaw and that is that out of 1 million people who were actually the people MR CHAIRMAN Shri Sreekuntan of Indian origin in Ceylon, about 1* lakhs Nair has got some business and wants to go of people were left out The Agreement was away If parties would not mind, 1 will call only for lakhs of people There also, him now. 15 years duration was fixed for implement­ ing the Agreement Why this 15 years’ dura, SOME HON. MEMBERS Yes tion 9 If Indih wanted to be serious about 237 D. G. Min. of VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 238 giving citizenship to them, we must have bargaining m numbers and years, the got them back immediately. If we had done arbitrary determination of percentages that, the entire country of Ceylon would have and proportions without any reference suffered and they would have been forced to to the wishes and implicit rights of the come down to ask us to send them back. people concerned, that should be the basis of any solution." That happens. The meanest labour of Keiala, the toddy tappers, came en bloc. The Anyhow, that has been done. What have we Ceylon Government is now entreating those done to expedite this process ? Let us take people to come back because nobody in all ihc people whom wc have agreed to take Ceylon is prepared to do that job. even though they comprise only 50 per cent of the people who are involved. And Now, years have passed, that i*>, 50 you are not putting any pressure. You say, per cent of the total period envisaged m the you have better relations. I am very sorry, Agreement for settling 1 million persons. our l-oreign Munster, our Government, What is the achievement ? Accoidtng to my had the extreme audacity to send out military information, according to trade union leaders, help to destroy small uichines and boys from we have brought back about 46,000 persons schools and colleges who had adoped a wrong and Ceylon has accorded citizenship to revolutionary path. We sent them helicopters 22,000 people, out of 1 million people At and arms and ammunitions to kill those the time of the Agreement, l| lakhs of poor children. Was it not tragic ? Does it people were left out. The number of pcisons conform to the not-ahgned approach ? tThis who come under the Agreement must have was inhuman, brutal, and you have ceratinly multiplied. Naturally, the number is increas­ to answer to this crime. Some time in the ing. What will you do about these people ? future, our country will have to regret when some other country will send arms and ammunitions to bomb our children. I am reading to you a passage from the publication of Shri S. 1 h indaman, a veteran trade union leader — I quate : Then, there was a reference to Bangla Desh. Shri (Jnnikrishnan was talking about the sacrifices of the people. 1 hat is not the “In approaching the problem in this question. I want to sound a note of warn­ manner, was not a Nelsonian blindness ing. You know, Maulana Bashani, one of disclosed to the realities under lying it. your old friends and colleagues, has taken up The real isUue underlying it is a social cud g els, and he was right also. I have found one : the unfortunate fate of a million that the African countries, the newly liberat­ people most of whom have been in ed nations are against India. It is because Ceylon and know no other motheilend o f your black-marketeeis and rackteers who and whose foibears over a period of a go and start everything that is dishonourable hundred years came into this country in life. Those people have ganged up in aod faced untold hardships to create the Bangla Desh also. Lven a man like Sheikh base of an economy which has been the M u jib u r Rahman, I am told, has said that salvation of the people of this country. their relations with Britain are better than Is not the real issue the immediate deter­ their relations with India,. They have shed their mination of the ignominous situation blood, but we have also shed our blood for that has been descubed as 'statelessness'? them. Yet, we are not getting proper recogni­ And what does ‘statelessness’ mean ? It tion. Why should we be so complacent about is a deprivation of civic lights and our relations with Bangla Desh ? Jf you do liberties, the existence in a countiy merely not control the black-marketeers and racke­ to earn a living without enjoying and teers who have gone to exploit the people of participating in those matters in a coun­ Bangla Desh, once again our relations with try’s growth that give a human being that part of the country will become pride and satisfaction, to be treated as strained. some form of mercenary, sordidly selling one’s labour. It is the inhumanity of this ignominous condition of ‘statelessness' (hat requires solution #and not the ^ tit f a t * jftfer *n?r *r 239 D. C. Min, of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affair 240

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«t^ t? ?t|T ^fr ?mrsr?3TfT k m % frr«r sqrrrrT-Hsiff a r k ^srfT The foreign policy of any government is a systematic statement of a deliberately ark f|?|fciH vt w ^Trr^r^R't spif*R^T?r selected national interest. On the basis of ^ r Sfstt 5rr?rr snfgtr i that, I want to review the functioning of the Txtcinal Affairs Ministry, and I want to place before the House some international f%2T5T a r ^ ^?r *r *r developments which axe vitally affecting the ^ srpft iTT^rrTTsr^ wk i f i interests of the country. A nation is judged 2 4 5 D. G. Min. o f V A I S A K H A 5, 1 8 9 4 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 2 4 6 not by its size or by its landscape but defini­ the international butcher, had undertaken a tely by its power. Mr. Clement, a very good journey for peace to Peking. After the political writer has said as follows : historic talks were over, there was a wides­ pread news flashed in papers all over the “Insolvency of power will mean, pre- world that there would not be any escalation ventible wars are not prevented, the un­ of the war in Vietnam. Immediately after avoidable wars are being fought without that, we see what is going on in North Viet­ being adequately prepared for and settle­ nam, South Vietnam and Cambodia. With ments are made which are the prelude an undying spirit, with an indomitable will, to a new cycle of unprepared wars and with undaunted courage, the finest flowers of unprevented wars and unworkable settle­ the North Vietnam soil have btaved the ments.” oddities of time and exposed the callous barbarity of Nixon and his administiation. So, what is necessary is power. Without power, no nation can survive. 1 recall what I want to touch on another point. While I spoke on the last occasion on the Demands our Piime Minister had gone to the US, she of this Ministry. I still remember that I had was given a dinner by Mr. Nixon. There then characterised the diplomacy of our Mr. Nixon, the cuisc of humanity, had said Government as dilly-dallying, negative and that as Vice-President he had undertaken a unproductive. But now I could find some tour of the world. He said : tolerable improvement registered and record­ ed m the Ministry of External Affairs. I am “On that trip around the woild of 73 grateful and thankful for the successful days, in 20 countries, 1 abked every head functioning of the Ministry under Shri of government and State what he wanted Swaian Singh, especially during the time of most for his countiy. Some said i oads, the Indo-Pak war. others industrial development, others said education. Piimc Minister Nehru did Utilising this opportunity, I want to say not answer that way”. He thought for a something about what is going on in Viet moment before stressing the need for “a Nam and the attitude of naked American generation of peace”. imperialism The report continues : SHRl PILOO MODV : Oh ! “Mr. Ni\on had acknowledged at the SHRl K. MANOHARAN : What oh ? banquet that he had since nude these 1 want to bring to the notice of the House words his own". the amount of atrocities committed by Arrcrican imperialism in that part of the This is what Mr. Nixon said while our country. To get a sense of the scale on Prime Minister was there quoting our pre­ which violence is being done on Asian soil, vious Prime Minister, Pandit Nehru, that consider the following repoit: what he wanted was a generation of peace. Immediately after that, wc have been watch­ “The savage battering of the Viet Namese ing how mercilessly the people ol North Viet­ continues without pause. In scale, it is nam have been mangled, gashed and muti­ unique in the history of warfare. We lated and the skulls scattered all around. learn that the aerial bombardment alone exceeds 100 lb. explosive per The Prime Minister is saying that there person, and 12 tonnes of explosives per is every possibility of restoration of mutual sq. mile, distributed almost equally understanding between the Government of between North and South Viet Nam. the United States and the Government of Hundreds of thousands of acres have India. I have got my doubts. So far no been subjected to defoliation,with what signs are visible. I am sure understanding ultimate consequences no one knows.” . can be reached between the US and India minus Nixon, becausr I want to show how Now it is a past story* The President mean, how low, Mr. Nixon has been, and is, of the United States of Ajmirica, whom I call how his administration h functioning very 247 D. G. Min. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 248

[Shri K. Manoharan] callously, nauseatingly. Here is an account That is the character of the Nixonian ad­ which would be interesting to read, and it ministration. would be very helpful to understand the content, colour, character or culture of the Another thing is this. “We also telex Nixonian administration. This is written by all Washington hostesses to say that if he is Art Buchwald. He says : invited to a dinner party, the President wishes him to be seated' ‘below the salt’.” “Deep in the bowels of the State Depart­ ment, there is a bureau whose sole The third one is, “When the Ambassador function is to make life miserable for requests to see the Secretaiy of State, he is the embassy of a country that the United given an audtencc with a code clerk trainee. States is feuding with. It is known as We tow his car away while he's in the the ‘anti-protocol office" and it is at building ” Then, “You people don’t fool present headed by Horace Bitterman, a around,” said Buchwald. Then, he asked, former guard at Attica prison. “What if the Ambassador gets angry ?”—he “1 talked to Mr. Bitterman the other is being treated like this—“and goes back day, and while he lefused to confirm or to his own country in a huff ?” The answer deny that the screws had been put on of Bitterman with a smile was, “We notify the Indian Ambassador, he did tell me the airlines and they arrange to lose his how the anti-protocal office operates” ... luggage.” That is exactly how the American Antiprocotol Office is functioning. It may Without telling that our ambassador be a satire, I do not know. But from the has been put into a diplomatic deep way in which Buchwald writes, I have got freeze— every reason to believe that Nixon is capable “When we get alerted by the White of living up to his satisfaction. House that the President wishes to show a certain coolness to a country, we go Another thing is this. Recently, ‘ I read immediately into action. The first thing from the news-papers that the Government we do is notify the sanitation department of India had invited all our envoys from all not to pick up the embassy’s garbage.”— the Asian, South-East Asian and East Asian countries. Our envoys were here and an This is how the anti-protocol office understanding has been reached. It is a functions— good undei standing. I could see the emer­ “Then we send out a fteet of used cars gence of a third bloc in this part of the to block the embassy's driveway.” world It is a must for the collective security of this part of the region, I stress. “We also begin digging a subway station ; in front of the ambassador's residence | with our workers starting to drill at 5 In the conference, eight points emerged. O’ clock in the morning. This serves The first point was, India’s role in this ( two purposes. It prevents the ambassa­ legion is one of mutual co-operation based dor from getting any sleep; and the dug- on equality and partnership. Second, India up street makes it impossible for him to does not accept domination by any power hold any diplomatic receptions because nor does it seek leadership for itself. Third, people have nowhere to park”. Tndia believes that the countries in this region should safeguard their sovereignty, There is another one which is \ery inter­ national independence, and be free from any esting. “That is pretty good,” said Buch- outside domination. Four, India would like ws0d. “What do you do when someone in to see strong and stable neighbours and has the White House says that an Ambassador no desire for territorial gains. Five, India is n o t to be treated at too high a level ?” would support a move towards guaranteeing “The first thing we do”—the answer the soverignty, independence and territorial comes— “is notify all the restaurants in town integrity of the countries of the region that if the Ambassador reserves a table, he through an international convention or is to be seated next to the kitchen door." agreement. Six, Ifldia attaches importance 249 D. G. Min. of VAISAKHA 3, 1894 (SAKA) Ext, Affairs 3 5 0

to the development of bilateral relations with South Vietnam. Our relations with the all countries, especially its neighbours. Asian countries, African countries as well as the Latin Ametican countries must be streng­ Two more points are there. Everything thened. While I was in Africa, I was told by relates and emphasises that we should have a number of persons : your Prime Minister a collective security in the light of the recent did not at all come to our country for the developments in respect of the super-powers simple reason that we are a small coun­ and the super-powers’ nauseating activities try. Prime Minister Nehru did not visit all indulged in this country. those African countris; Lai Bahadur Shastn did not tisit those countries, except Egypt. The Prime Minister had visited so many Why had Mr. Nixon undertaken a countries of the world; she should visit all journey for peacc to Peking ? According to the Latin American countries which are him, he said that it was a journey for peace. struggling for their liberation. But Kissinger, while he was talking to Chou- En-lai, said and it was repeated by Chou-En- lai to one professor from the United States SHRI PILOO MODY: Mr. Karuna- of America, according to newspaper repoi ts- nidhi had visited those countries. that Mr. Nixon was going to visit Peking first and formost to seek rc-election in his SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA own country. It is a political job. If he is (Begusarai) : Then there will be no time left in the While House continuously, peace in for our country. the region as well as in the world can be assured. So, why he undertook the journey SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Unfortu­ was very clear. It was for political reasons nately she cannot leave the entire responsi­ for the next election. bility to Mr. Mishra; that is the reason she cannot go. I wish the people of the United States of America, I wish the thinking section of THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER the United States of Amcrica, I wish the OF ATOMIC ENI-RGY, MINISTER OF land of Lincoln, the land of Kennedy, the ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME land of Martin Luther King, I wish them all AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFOR­ to sec that Nixon is defeated in the larger MATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRl- interests of the countries of the world I MATI INDIRA GANDHI) * 1 have visited hope that it would be done. The Foreign some Latin American countries. Minister is noted for his coolness which I am sorry I understood in the past as dullness. SHRI K MANOHARAN : Fvcn then I am sure that in addition to his coolness, I request her that she should visit countries he is noted for his sobriety. He is very sober in those regions and our foreign policy and and is handling international problems diplomacy should be dynamic and far-reach­ remarkably and wonderfully well, in collusion ing. with the Prime Minister of this country .. .(Interruptions) I request him to do one thing without any delay. The Prime THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister is noted for her sense of timing. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS While we have been clamouring for recogni­ (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : Nations tion of Bangla Desh, she has been saying : and States, like individuals come to cross­ wait, wait. Then the time came and roads of history sometimes when they have immediately she rccognised. 1 think the time to take a decision as to which turn they has come for recognising G. D. R. should take. If they take the correct turn, it leads to the path of stability and success and if a wrong turn is taken that leads to SHRI PILOO MODY : All this is a conflicts and problems. India found herself plea to recognise the D. M,K.".(Interrup­ in such a situation and predicament not ver> tions) long ago when we had to take a decision as to what turn we should take. I am happy SHRI K. MANOHARAN : So also the to say that our wise and far-sighted leader Provisional Revolutionary Government of and Prime Minister took the correct turn 251 D. G.•Min. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 252

[Shri Surendra Pal Singh] and the country came out successfully in the Asia, unfortunately, still have a number of crisis. wars in this region, a number of confron­ tations, and a lot of suffering alt round. T India occupies a very stiategic and am sorry to have to say that some of the impoitant place on the world map. She is countries in Asia stiil succumb to pressures at the crossroads of Asia and she forms a and domination from outside, and then; are l'in

It is rather sad and strange that while Since our emphasis in our policies is on countries of Europe which have suffered a economic and technical co-operation and in great deal during the last two wars have order to bring this idea into fruition we are come to realise that wars and confrontations gradually trying to increase the economic will not be in their ultimate interest, and content of our foreign policy. Economics they are working for detente among them­ and politics, as hon. Members know, act selves, and even the erstwhile enemies in and react on eqph other. They aie insepara­ Europe are coming closer together, we in ble and sometimes they act as catalytic 253 D .G .M tn.of VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 254 agents for each other. A number of steps notwithstanding this, there is no reason why have been taken by our Ministry to streng­ with a basic understanding of each other’s then this Scheme and to give more economic difficulties, problems and interests, even the content to our foreign policy. For instance, most difficult of problems cannot be resol­ our Economic Division in the Ministry has ved. been considerably strengthened by adding another Joint Secretary and suporting staff to the Division. For instance, wc have the case of Nepal before us. Some time back we bad some problems with Nepal, as the House knows, An idea hasalso been mooted that and at one time over the question of the perhaps a full-fledged Secretary should be treaty on trade and transit we had many in charge of this division and that matter difficulties with that country and there were is under consideration. a number of other problems also. But the House knows very well that ultimately we Proper training and orientation in overcame all those difficulties and we were economic work is given to 1FS officers at able to sign a treaty with Nepal, and the all levels and the idea is to change them other smaller problems have also been solved. from being diplomatic agents to trade agents This just shows that if an understanding is as far as possible. All our Foreign Service there between two neighbours, if there is ofllccrs have also been told very dearly that understanding in regard to their interests and problems and if there is a little bit of their promotion in future w jII depend on their performance in this field. Our heads give and take among them, there is no of missions have also been told that they reason why even the most difficult of prob­ have to keep a watch over the economic lems cannot be solved successfully. needs of the countries of their accreditation and they have to feed back infomation to While on Nepal, 1 would like to say headquarters so that necessary action can be that the recent \ isit of the Nepalese Prime taken from our side to implement whatever Minister to our capital and our country has schemes they put up for our consideiation. been very helpful and useful in bringing In fact, we have told them that they should about a better understanding between our act rather like commercial salesmen on two countries. He came here and had very behalf of a private firm and they should not useful and purposeful discussions with our consider this work as infra dig or below Piime Minister. That has led to a great their dignity. deal of understanding.

While on this question of economic and As the House is aware, wc are playing technical cooperation, I would like to say a veiy important lole in the development something about our immediate neighbours of Nepal. Wc are giving that country consi­ also, because we are trying to implement derable assistance to the best of our ability this policy in regard to our neighbours also. and Nepal her*. If is making considerable The main pillars of our policy towards our strides towards economic and industrial neighbours is friendship, understanding and development. The House may be interested cooperation. It is said, and very rightly so, in knowing that during the period 1951-71, whether it is an individual or a country, our the last 20 years, we have given to Nepal worth is judged by our reputation that wc nearly Rs. 81 crores in the form of aid or enjoy among our neighbours. I am vety grants for the development work. India is hippy to say that, apart from Pakistan and involved in more than 100 projects in Nepal. China, our relations with our neighbours are Recently, I think, an arrangement has been extremely good, very friendly and very arrived at to carry out a preliminary survey cordial. This does not, however, mean that for tne construction of the Kamali Project problems or difficulties do not crop between which, if it comes through, will be very ourselves and our neighbour. That is, I useful to people on both sides of the border. suppose, inherent in fhe situation. When we We have also undertaken to survey, with an are living so close to them, out interests are idea of constructing, a portion of the east- bound to overlap and certain problems and west Hghway in Nepal. The border between misunderstandings are bound to arise. But our countries, as hon. Members know, is 255 D.G. Mtn. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 256

[Shri Surendra Pal Singh] completely free and open, which s,ymbolises providing nearly Rs. 33 crores to Bhutan our very close friendship with that country. for her development projects.

With our another neighbour, Sikkm, we Burma is another neighbour of ours have very close and friendly relations and with whom our relations are very friendly. we are also doing our best to help Sikkim We understand cach others problems. Wc in her development programme. For her not only respect each others sovereignty and first three Plans we gave Sikkim about integrity but we also cooperate fully to safe­ Rs. 20 crores and in the Fourth and current guard the same. We recently signed the Plan the allocation is of the order of Tndo-Burma Boundary Agreement which is a Rs. 18‘5 crores. It is, of course, true that land-mark in our growing relationship with the work in regard to the construction of that country. The hon. Members will be roads and bridges is undertaken by our own happy to know that the work of demarcation organisations for which Sikkim does not of the boundary is going on very satisfactorily pay. and according to schedule.

About Bhutan I would like to make a As for the other question about the special mention because with that country people of Indian origin in Burma and about we have very intimate and very close rela­ their properties left behind that is a matter tions and very good understanding. The which is under discussion between our two House already knows that Bhutan has Governments and though a very difficult and already become a member of the UN and delicate subject, it is being discussed by our that event wc have hailed as a great land­ two Governments in an atmosphere of friend­ mark; we arc very happy about it. ship and cooperation We have been assured by the Burmese Government that they will deal with this matter with atmost sympathy and Very recently, when our representative compassion. We have very hope of a satisfa­ in Bhutan paid a visit and was met by the ctory solution coming out of these discussions. King, the King himself spoke m very friendly terms about India's support to Bhutan. He used words which I would like to quote foi Now, I will turn to our neighbour Ceylon the benefit of hon. Members which go to about which one or two references have been show in a nutshell as to what the King of made by the hon. Members who spoke just Bhutan feels abaut Ihdia’s help and assis­ now. I would say that our relations with tance to Bhutan. This is what the King said: Ceylon are also very friendly and very close and they are getting better every day. The recent visit of their Minister of Internal and “Our fundamental policy of friendship Externa] Trade has gone a long way in with India has been further strengthened bringing about better understanding. The after our entry in to the international hon. Members must have read in newspapers scence. In fact, it has cieated another wbat their Minister said after he got back area of close cooperation between our to Ceylon. He admitted that his visit to two countries." India had opened a new chapter in the Indo- Ceylon relations. This in a nutshell sums up our relationship with Bhutan. Sometime back, the hon. Members know that propaganda had been started in Ceylon Bhutan is progressing very rapidly under by some anti-India elements and also by the able and far sighted guidance of her some countries in order to spoil relations enlightened monarch and we, on our side, between India and Ceylon and it was said ate doing our very best to help Bhutan to that India being a very big country, she join the mainstream of international life as has expansionist designs against Ceylon. I quickly as possible. We are also giving condsi- am happy to say that this Indian expansionist derable financial assistance for her develop­ bogey, is now giving place to a realisation ment plans. Jn the current Plan, we are in the minds of the Ceylonese that perhaps 2 5 7 D. G. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 2 5 8 a time has now come when it will be better were a n umbei ot othei problems because a in their own interest and in the interest of large number of people are invoved in this. India if both the countries can cooperate in It was a big scheme. A number of adminis­ the economic, technical and other Gelds. I trative and other difficulties had to be over­ am happy to say that some proposals have come before it could start functioning pro­ been put forward according to which India perly. But I am to say that all the initial and Ceylon are going to put up joint colla­ difficulties have been got over now and both boration projects in Ceylon. We welcome the Governments have geared up their this very much. I take this occasion to machinery properly and it will be implement­ assure our friends in Ceylon that we have ed very soon and properly and we are absolutely no designs against their country, hoping that we will be able to complete the no ulterior designs, either economic or whole scheme within the stipulated time political or territorial. We want to sec that limit of 15 years. Ceylon, and for that matter all our neighbour­ ing countries, economically and industrially I would like to say a few words about strong. If they are strong and viable, it will the Indian Ocean also because that has been be a source of strength to us. In the same talked about a great deal recently in our manner, if India is strong and viable, indus­ country and outside. Over the last few years, trially and economically, it should be a it is a fact that the presence of foreign naval source of strength to those countries. Ceylon ships has increased; not only conventional should not have any suspicion of any ships or war ships have increased but vessels such designs from our side because it goes which carry nuclear weapons have made their against the very grain of the national chara­ appearance in the Indian Ocean. This is a cter of this country. We want to live in development about which wc are very peace and friendship with all out neighbours. anxious. Not only India is anxious but all the littoral countries of the Indian Ocean are SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Why did anxious. This development is causing a great you send the Indian Defence forces there ? deal of anxiety. We feel that this develop­ (Interruption) ment is full of potential danger and that the big Power rivalry will lead to tension and generate a fear psychosis and an atmoshere SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH : This of cold war which will impede the quick question was dealt with by my senior economic development of the backward colleague sometime back. We have reasons countries of this region. Horn. Members can why wc sent them. There is a legitimate very well ask us as to what wc are doing Government in Ceylon, duly elccted by the about this. We have taken up this matter people, and when that Government was in at the international forums and we have had I think, it was incumbent on us difficulties, bilateral discussions with a large number of to go to their help. I do not feel that we littoral countries and there is, I must say, had done anything wrong in sending them a complete identity of views and approach there. ( Interruption) in regard to this question with all the coun­ tries which are concerned with this matter. Shri Sreekantan Nair mentioned about At the Lusaka Conference a declaration was the Indo-Ceylon Agreement of 1964. He made on behalf of the non-aligned countries said that this was not being implemented pro* in September, 1970. It declared the Indian perly and that we should do something Ocean area as an ocean of peace and a about it to get the people from Ceylon as nuclear-fiee zone. India was a signatory to quickly as possible. As far as the delay is that and subscribed to that declaration. 1 concerned, he is right in saying that there must say that the Lusaka Declaration sym* has been a delay. There were a number of bolises the feelings and wishes of all the factors for this delay. One was that Ceylon countries of (he Indian Ocean littoral. There had no enabling legislation to give citizen­ was also the U. N. Resolution which was ship to the stateless people; they took a num­ sponsored by Ceylon in the United Nations ber of years to pass a suitable Act for that Assembly and which we also supported. We purpose. The Act was passed in 1968, and have agitated this point considerably in the they called in applications for citizenship world forums and we have been able to some time towards the end of J1968, There mobilise considerable public opinion in favour 259 D. G. Min. af APRIL 2-5, 1972 Ext. Affairs 260

[Shri Surendra Pal Singh]

of this move, so much so that even the big for Cultural Relations will be actively asso­ Powers who are inter.:sted in the Indian ciated with the working of these missions in Ocean and whose navies have made their this respect. appearance here not only recently but quite some time back, have begun to discuss this Sir, these are the only points that I matter, and they are debating this point as wanted to highlight. Mr. Manoharan made a to what should be done to bring about some mention about the Conference held recently. kind of a check on this arms race in the I agree with him wholeheartedly that we Indian Ocean. We are very happy that this should put across to those countries our debate has started in their minds. And there point of view that we want peace, that we is also some talk of a conference being held have no am!Jitions or other designs. All these some time later on in which the big Powers ideas were discussed with the participants of may participate to decide this matter. We the Conference and we are hopeful that in only hope that when this Conference takes all these countries there will be an awaken­ place, it will not be confined or limited only ing in this respect, that India is trying to to those who call themselves big Powers but, give its fullest cooperation to all those coun­ the smaller Powers and all the countries of tries. the region of the Indian Ocean will be allowed to participate where they can put forward SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY their point of view, and whatever decisions (Kendrapara) : Today more than ever before, are arrived at it, will be arrived at after the country stands in a very comfortable and taking .into consideration our views on the enviable position particularly in the context subject. This is a matter which we are pursu­ of the events leading to the independence of ing and about which our position is clear. (Interruption) Bangla Desh. I congratulate the Minister and the Government of India on that account. The developments leading to the emergence J would like to say a few words about of Bangla Dcsh as a free independent country the cultural activities also. We attach a great were due to certain fortuitous circumstances deal of importance to our cultural relations of history for which really speaking the with countries all over the world. I know Foreign Ministry alone cannot take any that political and economic relations are also credit. Sir, till the very last, it may be recalld, very important. Cultural relations are also the Government of India's stand was for a important and cultural links at people-to­ political settlement of Bangla Desh, within people level are more enduring than even the framewNk of undivided Pakistan. My economic and commercial relations. With only submission is, the Foreign Ministry had that end in view we are enlarging our activi­ never spelt out in clear terms what it meant ties in this field and we have cultural agree­ by political settlement of Bangla Desh within ments with a large number of countries all the framework of Pakistan. over the world and especially in those coun­ tries where there are large numbers of people of Indian origin. We are going to open two 15.54 hrs. cultural centres in Fiji. and Goy an a where there is a large population of people of Indian [SHRI R. D. BHANDARE in the Chair] origin. That does not mean that we are trying to shut out any kind of cultura1 activity on SHRI SW ARAN SINGH : Acceptable to the part of foreign missions in our country. the leaders of Bangla Desh, the Awami - We are giving them full opportunities in our League leaders. country to carry on their legitimate cultural activities and we have set up a Central Cul­ SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY: My tural Committee in order to regularise and only point is, why this bad not been spelt to supervise the cultural activities of these out in full, that India's Foreign Mi;1istry missions here so that these cultural activities stood for the independence and freedom of can go on smoothly and they fall within our Bangla Desh. Therefore, this leads me to rules and regulations and no anti-national conclude that the emergence of Bangla Desh activities are indul�ed in the Jnqian Collocil was due to-certain fortuitiou$ circumstanc'e$ 261 D. G. Min. of VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs_ 262 for which really the Foreign Minister cannot Asia, but will make them pieces of pawns in claim credit. If Bangla Desh issue has created the chess board of international politics. an impression that India is a big power, I venture to say it is illusory. It is illusory in This was a doctrine which had been -as much as only the other day, the Foreign voiced by Mr. Breznev three years ago. Asian Minister was speaking with a spirit of help­ Security System, at that time, as propounded lessness that nothing could be done to stop oy Mr. Breznev had not found much ac<:ep­ the super powers from utilising the Indian tance. Is it that the Foreign Minister is acting ocean for their naval exercises. Today we find to-day as the salesman of USSR for making the United States have their Enterprise, the South East Asian nations accept this the UK Aircraft carrier Albion is there and doctrine? the Soviet Naval forces also are there using the Indian ocean for their naval exercises and SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: You are building tension. Just now the Foreign talking nonsense. Minister said, India is craving their sympathy and their indulgence, to see that Indian SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : It ocean could be maintained as an area of might sound you nonsense because you have peace. This is neither the language nor the lent your brain to someone who thinks for posture of a Big Power. In all humility I may you; because you have delegated your think­ say these are mere platitudinous observations ing power to somebody else. which are neither here nor there. The only conclusion that one comes to is that unless you develop a very strong defence base you SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : It is cannot have a credible foreign policy which better to delegate to her than to Biju Patnaik. will have an impact. Sir, to-day the latest exercise of our foreign policy is the Asian SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : Why �ecurity System, and I wish to devote the bring in Biju Patnaik here ? You are not minutes at my disposal to an examination of thinking objectively. this Asian Security System. The Asian Security System is nothing new. In fact, this is an SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN You echo of the days of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru should know. and even in 1968 when our Prime Minister had visited Malaysia, she had also thrown SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : What out the idea that there should be some kind I know, that I know. It is for the Foreign of an Asian security system under the Minister to clarify. You should not, interrupt umbrella of the UNO where the sovereignty, others who at least apply their own thinking. the integrity of the nations of the South East What I was going to say was that as the Asia could be guaranteed. But it had drawn Deputy Minister said that the foreign service a blank from the concerned countries. Now to-day would be acting as the tradesman or this is being revived and the Foreign Ministry as Indian trade agents, I think the Foreign is petering out as its only credible foreign Minister is selling this idea to South East po-licy. Asian nations otherwise why should the schemes of the Asian Security system include According to the Asian Security system, provision for inviting a super power to join while India will not accept domination by the Asian system. May I ask in the context, any power or a group of power in this region, whether the USSR 'is an. Asian power or a she will not be averse to any big power or European power? It is an Asian power as country joining any such co-operation. I much as it is a European power also. And would like to know from the Foreign Minis­ that leads me to submit that there can be no_ ter, what is exactly meant by this-an Asian Asian security system without the participa­ Security System to which invitations are being tion of China. Though I am not an admirer thrown to big powers to join it, and for what of the political system that is being experi­ purpose ? According to me this is an invita­ mented upon in China, I still would repeat tion to the big powers for-s'larting their power what I said last year, that there should be a rivalry in Asia. This will not safeguard - the new detente with China, and there can be integrity and sovereignty of the Asian nations, no Asian security system without the parti­ particularly tile pa�ion� of the "South East cipation of China,, 263 D. C. Mm of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 246

{Shri Surendra Mohanty]

16 bra the ASEAN experiment is certainly a non­ starter. The countries affiliated to the This brings me to another matter In ASEAN have not been able to find a perma­ the days of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and nent secretariat of their own. They have not thereafter, our foreign policy was remarkable even been able to woik out an agenda on for its involvement in world affairs Today, which to work In the light of that ex­ we find we have shrunk within and our perience, I do not know how thij» Asian foreign policy lacks that posture and that security system is going to function and how involvement, and this can bo borne out by it is going to work if we aie going to invite our policy over the recent happenings in the big powers or any big power, whoever it Vietnam The other day, the Foreign may be, whether it be the USSR or the USA Minister said that he would neither convene or even China I would like to know how a summit conference, nor the International by inviting any big power and by throwing Control Commission nor would he accept open the Asian security system to these big even to pass a resolution in the House nor powers, the Government of India are going WOild he take steps in order to withdraw to ensure the integrity Rnd sovereignty of the from the commission of which India is the nations of South-East Asia presiding authority This onlv shows how India is lacking in involvement When we are talking of the Asian security system, wc Since the time at my disposal i* already must have a sense of involvement and we over, while congratulating the Foreign Minis­ must have that sense of leadership If we ter I would only repeat my plea that India remain non-mvolved and remain as mere must evolve a credible foreign policy A acquiscent observers of happenings then I credible policy does not mean speaking am sure that among the Asian countries and platitudes and working as the tiade agent of South-East Asian countries m particular, we some superpowers in the international will not evoke much response markets tor making their policies acceptable to others

The other day, when it was suggested that an Asian summit should be convened for With these words, 1 support the considering the issues arising out of the Viet­ Demands nam happenings, the Foreign Minister gave us a very simple prescription He had ad­ SHRI DINESH SINGH (Pratapgarh) . vised Members, those who had suggested it, Mr Chairman, foreign policy is really a two- to take a piece of paper and a pencil and to tier arrangements There is the wider, gene­ jot down the names of the countries in Asia ral international objective and there is an and find out for themselves whether that inner, more direct progiamme of action motley crowd would ever join together at a linked again more directly to one’s own conference table to find out a common national interest The global arrangement solution in our case has been an arrangement for peace because without international peace our SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU That is a own development would not have been pos­ feather on his cap, of jather I mean his sible It is a larger international co-operation pugree. which would provide us with the resources for our own development since we have SHRI SWARAN SINGH And on his always wanted to develop m freedom, free bare head. from foreign control.

SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY : In This has been what one may call the the light of that experience, I would ask the global strategy of India and it remains the Foreign Minister how he hopes that the same today because the objectives of develop­ Asian security system would be a success ? ment, of international peace and co-operation, Ha* he not drawn any lesson from the ex­ remain as valid today as they have been at perience of the ASEAN experiment ? Today, the time of*our independence, *63 Z>. 0. Min, of VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affaln 2 6 6

Then we come to the more direct pro­ day that you gave me an opportunity to gramme. Our direct programme, as evolved speak in this House and express my views, by our first External Affairs Minister and t say only this. Whether it is a question of Prime Minister, Pandit Nehru, was a pro­ Vietnam, whether it is the question of the gramme which embodied in it the hopes and recognition of PRG in South Vietnam, or aspirations of the Asian people as a whole. whether it is the question of recognition of It was a programme of assisting in the free­ GDR, whether it is the question of support dom movement of other countries; it was a to the people struggling against apartheid in programme which wanted the freedom that South Africa, whether it is the question of had come to be retained. This was embodied supporting people still living under colonial in what was called the concept of non-align­ domination in the Portuguese colonies, or ment, of panehsheel, of peaceful coexistence. whether it is the question of giving support This concept, again, remains as valid today to the people a!l over the world in the as it was 25 years ago when it was enuncia­ developing countries who wish to build for ted by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. But the themselves an economic system free from emphasis has shifted because it is no longer foreign control, there cannot be a division. a concept that has got to be accepted. It is One cannot look at this in compartments. today accepted not only by our friends but Just as peace is indivisible, so are principles also by those who had vehemently opposed indivisible. Either we support the oppressed it. whether at home or abroad, and then we have to support the PRG in South Vietnam, Therefore, the question arises as to what the GDR, the struggle in South Africa or in are the next steps we have to take both in the Portuguese colonies, or we withdraw. the direct service of our national interest as And when we withdraw, then lip-sympathy welt as in mobilising the aspirations of the alone will not serve the ends. people around us. It is here that we have to do some thinking. It is hetc that a new dynamic initiative is called for to regroup the countries of When the Prime Minister spoke of larger Asia, of Africa, of Latin America which are Asian co-operation, which was followed by now facing new challenges, neo-colonialism; our support to the legal government of which arc facing the challenges of super­ Ceylon as also to the aspirations of the power rivalry. It is not a question of change people of Bangla Desh, it was hoped that a in the context; the validity, whether of non- new Asian policy had emerged, an Asian alignment or peaceful co-existence, remains policy of which Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru the same. But it is its application that is himself talked at the very beginning when he important. 25 years have gone and one said that we could not be petitioners in the cannot repeat like a mantra that our policy chanceries of the western countries, that remains non-alignment and peacful co-exis­ Asia must come of its own, that Asian tence. Of course, it is there; there is no people must take their own destiny in tlieir alternative. But what beyond that ? hands. If you see the situation in Bangla Desh, the conflict mixed up with super­ We have had here the meetings of the power entanglement, with big power involve­ heads of our missions in Asia. Our distingui­ ment, and yet the determining factor had shed Deputy Minister gave us an indication been the wish of the people of Bangla Desh of the broad discussions and certain conclu­ assisted by those who bad cherished these sions bordering on what may be called a values, and success came not to the super­ a further emphasis on economic affairs. But powers but to the people of Bangla Desh is that all ? Can we say that because we themselves. have asked our ambassadors to become salesmen we have served our purpose in But then we see what has happened in Asia ? Even in terms of the chelleoges we Vietnam. 1 cannot help saying that it is a face, it is beyond our capacity to meet even matter of regret that we have not taken the China on purely economic ground*. My actions that were expected of us. friend Mt. Bhagat reminded me not long ago that China had spent as much as $ 2-4 ! do not wish lo go in any* great detail billion in assistance to the developing coun­ in this regard because it was only the other tries. Can we match that ? Or is it enough 3 6 ? D. 0. Min. o f APRIL 35. 1972 Ext. Affain 2 6 9

[Shri Diatth Singh] just to tend some people and say, “Yes; we Vietnam. It is an obligation placed on it by have a few goods to offer ?” the Geneva Agreement. It can meet, discuss and make its recommendations to the It is a question of policy, and that Cochairmen. May be nothing will coroe out policy will not be made by trade alone. It of it; still it would have done its duty and is a question of co-ordinating the develop* we as the Chariman, have done our duty in ment of one country with the development of mobilising world opinion. Beyond that it is another country. It is a question of utilising a question of national effort. The Foreign our surpluses in the building of economic Minister did not accept the suggestion of processes in other countries, and it is a my friend, Shri S. N. Mishra that we should question of utilising their surpluses in the have an Asian Conference. With due respect development of third countries. It is then to my friend Mr. Mishra, 1 do not agree only that a co-operative, economic asso­ with it either ., .(Interruptions) because accor­ ciation can emerge; not merely trade ding to the Foreign Minister it is imprac­ exchanges which can have a diminishing tical. return over a poriod of time. SHRI S11YAMNANDAN MISHRA : But even this, I would not say is At the crucial moment, you will go with the sufficient. Jt is a question of establishing Foreign Minister, not with the opposition. that India stands for certain values, and that India will stand for the oppressed people wherever that oppression may be. SHRI DINESH SINGH : That does not It is this that has carried India through two mean that between the confcrence and this decades when India herself did not have inactivity there is no other alternative. If any riches to offer, and yet, its counsel was we have not taken that coursc of action, it valued, and it was valued bccause it was is bccause there is, to my mind, an effort at linked with certain principles. It is these greater buicaucratisation of the initiatives as principles which have now to be spread such. further down in the creation of a new dynamic policy. I say with some personal knowledge that v.c have one of the finest foreign Sir, in talking about Asian affairs, it is service. Our younger representatives and neccssary for us to see what are the new members of the foreign service are the challenges and what is the power equation finest that you could find anywhere in the in Asia. world; yet there is a bureauctacy topping that, like a lid, which frustrates all their What are the points on which explosions hopes and aspirations and initiatives. Where can occur ? I have talked of Vietnam; I will they go, my friend asks. 1 can give a have talked of it at length. I can not help list of some very nice places to settle down repeating that it symbolises the entire in India after retirement; I shall be glad to struggle of the Asian people against foreign send the list to either him or the Foreign domination. Minister. 1 do not wish to get invoved in the lules and we are looking forward Ito the I have said on the last occasion that we changes that are likely to come before this should have made a more serious attempt to House very soon from what 1 see in the mobilise world opinion and that the Jnter* newspapers. But 1 do say that the course of national Control Commission had a spccial initiative in the service should be open. Our role in this regard. I am sorry my friend friends are now being assured that there will the distinguished Foreign Minister did not be greater recognition of merit. I am golad fully agree with me. He felt that the ICC to hear that. But I hope that this recog­ was not in a position in the present context nition of merit will not mean a commit­ to take any great initiative. I beg to differ ment to bureaucracy on top but a commit­ from him; it is the duty of the Commission ment to dyrvamic work in the Ministry of to take cognisance of the changed situation in External Affairs. 269 D, G. Min, of VA1SAKHA 3, 1894 {SAKA) Ext. Affairs 270

When our ambassadors met here, can the policies of the Government of the we say that they bad been given a specific United States, which my friend, Shri Piloo brief in regard to our policy as such ? 1 do Mody, has never appreciated. Nevertheless, not mean only the econmic policy. 1 would 1 hold to that even today. On the other not wish the Foreign Minister to spell this hand, we have to see the tremendous support out but only to assure us that he is satisfied that wc are receiving from the people of that a brief has been given to our represe­ the United States. What has North Vietnam ntatives in Asia, which will represent the done ? North Vietnam has made a direct new dynamism which wc all hope will appeal to the people of the United States, emerge from the Asianness which the Prime over the head of the Government of the Minister has been speaking of. If we have United States, and it is paying dividends. done this, then wc have made a move for­ You can see the tremendous support that ward. If wc have not, perhaps it is not yet Vietnam receives from the Senators, from too late to evolve this so that there could be the people of the United States, which is a more meaningful co-operation in Asia. making inroads. We have got to try to crysta­ llize the support that we have of the people You look at the other extreme of Asia. of the United States and further strengthen I talked of the conflict in the East, and it, because the people of the United States there is the conflict in the West, the conflict are both democratic and friendly, and the in the Arab lands. What does it represent ? government will keep changing. I do not To my mind, it is not merely a clash bet­ subscribe to the theory that we must assist ween Israel and the Arab countries. It is in the change of the government. That is again basically a clash of neo-colonialism their domestic affair. They can choose one with emerging forces in the Arab world. President or the other; may be, they arc about Wc may not have been too pleased with the the same for us; at least in the past they attitude of the Arabs over Bangladesh but, have been roughly the same. But it is the that aside, there is still the basic question that people who can make a basic change. the Arabs are fighting for their independent existence and we must continue to support Similarly, in regard to China, we cannot them in their struggle against colonialism. wait for China to take the initiative. China And it is here that a meaningful co-opera­ will take the initiative when it suits China. tion can emerge between Asian countries, What is necessary for us today ts to end based upon both political ideals and econo­ this waiting; to sec whether wc can bring mic co-operation, not merely in terms of about a changc, not necessarily by state­ trade, but in terms of the weaving in of the ments here, not necessarily by public development of one another. declarations elsewhere.

When we look at the picture of Asia we find that a balance of power exists today. SHRI PILO O MODY ; By eating It is not a bi-polar balance, but a balance Chinese food. in which China has forced itself in. We have to see how it affects our own national SHRI DINES11 SINGH : 1 agree with interest. Today one of the major powers is the hon. Member. It is good food which he with us, two are against us. The success of and I sometimes, I hope, will be able to diplomacy will depend on the retention of share. But it is not the food alone. Beyond friendship, even further strengthening of food is the food for thought to which we the friendship with the power that is with us must at this moment apply ourselves. It is and, at the same time, neutralisation of the my hope that with the discussions that are powers which are working against us. taking place and the constant review that the Foreign Minister applies to our policy, It is in this context that there is need it will be possible to evolve a dynamic for fluidity, whether it is with China or it is approach which will strengthen the policies with the United States. I know the senti­ that we have followed and will give a new ments expressed by my dear friend, the direction in which a new and a meaningful bon. Member, Shri Manoharan, about the association of Asian countries, of the deve­ United States. 1 have had sevemi occasions loping countries, will emerge Which will be in this House to express my own views about triggered off by India. r r i D. tf. mto. o f APRIL *5, 1991 Bet. Affoin ITS

SHRI R. K. SINHA (Faizabad) : Sir, friend Nixon via the agency of Mao Tsc-tung the foreign policy of a country is based on challenges the Indian sub-continent and very certain principles. In the case of our country, indirectly says that the strongest power in from the very inception of our freedom, the South Asia is India. When the chain of foreign policy of peace, non-alignment and imperialism was disturbed in South Asia, it enlightened self-interest has been a policy was the re-emergence of the glcry of India, for us. the sovereignty of India. This is forgotten by the Opposition benches. My hon. friend from the Utkal Con­ gress praised the policies of Pandit Jawaharlal About the liberation of Bangla Desh, Nehru, It is the role of the Opposition Professor Mukeijee said that we were becom­ always to praise the policies of the past ing complacent. Why shall we not ? The Governments of India. moment of glory is a moment where the ruling party shall be rightly proud of many SHRI PILOO MODY : Never. firsts which came in the course of the libera­ tion of Bangla Desh. The biggest influx of refugees in the history of the world was SHRI R. K. SINIIA : In the past the faced by India. The liberation of one of principles of our foreign policy were proved the biggest countries in the world was also successful when we took part in the com­ the result of our foreign policy. mission for Korea when we emerged as the trusted Chairman of the Commission in Indo- China and when during the war in the During the crisis days, when the Middle East India was entrusted with the Seventh Fleet was threatening the Indian task of leading the forccs of peace. sub-continent, it proved the success of the foreign policy of the Government of India. It also proved the fact that while it is true In our national affairs, unlike the great that liberators are fighting the battle for liberator, the People's Republic of China, the freedom of Arab people or the freedom we liberated Goa and parts of our country of the people of Indo

Now, the question of Indo-China is be­ In the last year we saw so many speakers fore us. I wish to place before you some parts from the Opposition benches pillorying us of the speech of our revered Piime Minister. as to when Bangla Desh shall be recognised. While inaugurating the Asian Seminar oq I remember the months of July and August Trade Unionism, she said : when speaker after speaker came up in the Opposition benches of the House and said that the policy of the Prime Minister and “The classic example of (he old colo­ our foreign policy were a failure. Then came nialism yielding places to new interven­ the treaty of friendship and peace between tion is the order of the day today.,,” the Soviet Union and India. Then, after, a few month-., came the greatest ciisis in the She also said : history of the Indian sub-continent when Pakistan launched a war against us. “Imperialism initially advances through the reluctance to abandon its hold,..** What is the lesson of the liberation of Bangla Desh ? In terms of the history of Today, neo-colonialism is the new form world imperialism, one of the basic links in of world imperialism. Imperialism is not the Chain of imperialism was disturbed in dead. Imperialism has not abandoned its the Indian sub-continent. It is lost on our allies in Africa. It continues to exploit the Marxist revolutionary friends. They choose people of Portuguese colonies. Today, the to call us sympathiser of America. Their the United States of America continues to 273 D. 0. Min. of VAISAKHA 5. 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Afflato 114 send arms to strengthen the Portuguese the country because the country must imperialism. The chain of imperialism con­ be run down. There is a moment of tinues to suffocate the people of Arab world glory when the people can stand together through bribery, via Saudi Arabia and Jordon and say that the country is great bccause the and, through bribery or other channels, today, country is great. There lies the strength. imperialism is trying to influence both the What shall we use it for ? We shall use it sectors of the Middle-East. Through Israel, a for btrengthening friendship w ith our piece of the flesh of the Arab people has neighbours. been torn and thus neo-imperialism has discovered a way to keep the people of Nepal has already said that the Treaty of the West Asian region completely divided. 1951 of friendship with India is alive. It is That is the face of thy world imperialism ahve today because Bangladesh is not part today. of Pakistan. It is alive today because India and Bangladesh have a treaty of friendship. W hat is happening in Indo-China? AH It is alive bccause India and Soviet Union the experiments of genocide, alt the experi­ have a treaty of fiiendship. The friendship of ence of which Hitler and Yahya Khan would Soviet Union and India should not be con­ be ashamed, have been copicd by American sidered as the emergence of opportunism imperialism in Vietnam. Such people who but a fact of friendship which has been are the gloty of the history of a nation, the cultivated in 25 years of the freedom of our people who should be the proudest - a small country. Look at the opportunism of set of people - have chellcnged the might of China and America. Mr. Kissinger, as a the biggest imperialism. What our Prime commission agent for Yahya Khan, went to Minister says on this subjcct I wish to place Peking in order to arrange a holiday for the as a justification of the glorious foieign policy Presidant of the United Stjies who is harassed of India which has discovered its feet and by the people of that country. Neither the inrooted in the conditions of India where problem of Vietnam nor the problem of today our obliging journalists cannot report Taiwan has been solved. That was sheer back from America that Mr. Johnson is opportunism. The friendship of India and refusing to send food aid to India because the Soviet Union should not be equated wilh India has spoken something on foieign policy that. On the issue of Kashmir, on the issue matters. Today, there may not be that oil of strengthening our national economy, on black-mail because India has come nearer to the issue of strengthening the defence self-sufficiency. industry of India, the Soviet Union has always stood by us. If the Soviet Union has As Lenin oncc said, the foreign policy is stood by us and if our friendship is celebrated the expression of the inner policy of a coun­ as a Treaty of Friendship, why shall we be try. Today, our foreign policy icflecis the ashamed of it ? Ashamed shall be the fact that India is a socialist, democratic, Chinese, ashamed shall be the Americans. secular united society. India has its own feet Neither China has completely abandoned and that foreign policy finds its expression in communism nor America, the capitalist the foreign policy of strength where India is democracy. reckoned as one of the biggest countries in the world, not for super-power status, not On my way, while returning from the for colonialism, but for supporting those Afro-Asian Solidarity Conference, one of my values which were recommended to the world Indian Embassy friends said that he would by the Father of the Nation, Mahatma like to introduce me to an ex-Maoist. You Gandhi, and the greatest thinker and mission­ know what that ex-Maoist said. “Maoists ary who came on the surface of politics, the used to give us ideology. If we want resouices late Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru. and strength, the Soviet Union can give us. If we want arms, the Soviet Union can give Therefore, when we discuss our foreign us. But the Maoists could give us only policy, it may be, because an Opposition has ideology and even that has been abandoned to play the role of an opposition, because an by the great Maoist revolutionaries.” opposition has to say something and a certain Our Marxist friends who are on retieat opposition is reflected by oui *friends of the should take a- lesson. This is our home­ Utkal Congress who will always run down land, our country, and this can be a great 2 7 5 D. a, Min, of APfUL 25, 1972 Ext. Affair* 2 7 0

[Shri R. K. Sinha] socialist country, friendly to all its neighbours Europe is the future of the world, Africa is and with a foreign policy to assert its right the present. This half a century shall be to emphasize the basic principles for which that of Africa. Africa and Latin America wc have stood. are going to determine the future of the world. After all, the problems of the world 1 wish lo request our Foreign Minister are not going to be decided by war. They that we should make a special study of South are going to be decided by the voice of the East Asia and West Asia. Wc should also small nations of the world in the United emphasize the .study on Afncan region. These Nations. That is why we have to cultivate are our natural allies. Africa.

There should be study in depth of South Coming to our neighbours, in spite of East Asia. There should be non-official the fact that China has been hostile to us, organisations encouraged by our Government 1 feel, we should try to bridge the gulf, we for a study of South East Asia. South East should have contacts with China, we should Asia is a region where our ancients have some level of understanding and friend­ spread Buddhism and Hinduism. South East ship with China. We should liberate Pakis­ Asia is the region where still the Rama>ana tan from the conspiracy of the imperialists and the Mahabharatha are celebrated. South and Chinese who want tension to be created, East Asia is our region of friendship and not to be perpetuated in the sub-continent. That of sphere of influence. is why we should tell them plainly that India has got no territorial claims on them. It is India which has embarked on the unilateral About West Asia, 1 would say that we ceasefire. We have the best of sentiments should not walk into the trap of world for the people of Pakistan and if possible, Zionism. It is a tool of woild impciulism. with the Government of Pakistan. If possi­ Let us. not walk into that camp by saying ble, we should establish a durable border of that their opponents have not been very peace with that country. There should bo responsive to us in the past. They might not an international border of peace between have been very responsive. But from the these two countries. My only hope is, let suffocation which has been imposed by the India, Pakistan and Bangla Desh emerge as CIA, the Pentagon and the imperialists, the defenders of the great principles about which revolutionary secularist is trying to liberate our great seers spoke to us. Thank you. himself. Shall wc strengthen him. Shall we build a biidge between the Arabs, the socialists among them and ourselves. For SHRI C. C. DESAI (Sabarkantha) : The that, I would request the Foreign Minister whole attention of the country today is that more efforts should be made to focussed on the forthcoming Indo-Pakistan cultivate friendly relations at all levels, talks. The main object of these talks is to including the non-official level, with the achieve durable peace in the sub-continent. West Asian region. Nobody can quarrel with that. But the point is, what is the content of the durable peace. That is the crux of the situation Then we come to the problem of Africa. because signing of a no-war pact will not There may be small countries in Africa: mean durable peace. Mere assertions by there may be big countiics in Africa. But Mr. Bhutto that he wants to live in peace there arc a great number of countries repre­ with India will not bring durable peace. We sented in the United Nations. Let them have to take into account the ability of not have an impression that the great India, Pakistan to strike at India. If we can do which has emerged greater in the conflict something about the striking power of Pakis­ with Pakistan, is trying to ignore them. Let tan by an agreement on the limitation of us cultivate them at non-official levels. armaments, then, I think, that will be, what Let us send delegations to them. We should we call, durable or credible peace. invite more delegations from them. Let us understand the problem of Africa because if The point is this. In Pakistan today India is the mid-future and if the socialist there aie 55 million people. In India today 277 D. 0, Min, of VAISAKHA 5, 1194 iSAKA) Ext. Affairs 278 there are 560 million people. Pakistan is SHRI C. C. DESAI : I am coming to thus one-tenth of India. If there is real that. The external assistance is there. It is intention on the part of Pakistan to live in not only external assistance from certain peace, then there should be no difficulty in countries but the externa] assistance from their agreeing to certain amount of limitation neighbouring countries and I was surprised on armaments expenditure, on the millitary to lind some people on the other side saying and defence expenditure in Pakistan in rela­ that we should be friendly with all these tion to India. There should be some Arab countries. It is a matter of shame, Sir, relationship of their military expenditure to that a number of these Arab countries have ours. There should be some understanding behaved most disgracefully towards India on that. ]f that is achieved then I think on this occasion, tven Afghanistan which one can be sure that their professions on has got a certain amount of stake in Pakistan peace will be practised in future. Otherwise and certain sympathy for Pulhtoons has not we will think he is only concerned with yet recognised Bangla Desh. Hgypt is a repatriation of prisoners of war. He will great friend of ours. It is saying that only say all kinds of statements. He said he is when Mr. Bhutto tells them they will recog­ concerned with two problems today. Accor­ nise Bangla Desh. Bangla Desh is a country ding to him one problem is the prisoners of of 75 million people all these Aiab countries war and the other, the long term problem of out together number only 100 million people Kashmir. In my judgment the question of and they are at present talking about Bangla prisoners of war should be linked with Desh as some small country ju->t born the durable peace and with the security of this recognition of which would be delayed. country. He has come out with a gimmick. He Ultimately they will find that Bangla Desh says he is prepared to release even without is about next to I ndonesia the largest Muslim the consent of the Prime Minister of India country in the world and therefore they will the Indian prisoners of war in Pakistan. have to pay respect to Bangla Desh. What Well, we have got about 600 prisoner!; of about Jordan ? What about Lib>a ? I think war in Pakistan. So, it is no charity it is no every Member of Parliament has received a peace, it is no movement for peace on the cyclostyled copy of a letter written by some part of Mr. Bhutto to agree even unilaterally Col. Gaduifi — I donot know what Gadaifi to the release of these 500 or 600 prisoners means-but some Col. Gadaifi signs as of war in Pakistan. However, if that gesture President of Libya making all kinds of has to be responded to, it should be respon­ insinuations, allegations and aspersions ded to in the like manner, that is, those against India particularly during the Indo- Pakistanis who have taken prisoners on the Pakistan war. The same Libya, Sir—wc read Western front can be released as quid-pro- only this morning in the papervhad appa­ quo for the release of the Indian prisoners in rently given a frigate to ihe Pakistani Navy Pakistan that will be roughly about the same which was involved on the 4 th December figure. But the fate of these 93,000 prisoners 1971 in the action near Karachi. The same of war in India taken under the joint cus­ Libya had also sent B-52 members or some tody of India and Bangla Desh is a different American aircraft to Pakistan. Joidan is matter and has to be linked up with durable another country which had vehemently peace, with durable security and therefore, opposed Indian stand in the 1^65 war, os I said earlier, there should be a voluntary which again lent 4 ships and gave aircraft admission or voluntary agreement on limita­ and other assistance to Pakistan in the 1971 tion of armaments. Wo can even say this, war. What reasons have we to show the Sir, that immediately both countries will slightest sympathy to these countries like agree to reduce their defence expenditure Joidan, Libya, Turkey and so on. As against by 20% and in addition Pakistan will that there is Israel. Israel has been friendly reduce its defence expenditure so as to go to us. J do not give out any secret when 1 say down eventually, say in the course of three that in the height of the lndo-Pakistan war, or four years, to that proportion to the some of the best, some of the most sophis­ ratio jo population. That would be the ticated war material was supplied by Israel, real test, to India and Israel could have done much more if we had been a little more friendly. SHIU K. NARAYANA RAO (Boblilli) ; I do not suggest, Sir, that we under-mine or under-rate Israel's aggression or we say any- What about external assistance ? JT9 D, 0. Min. of APRIL 11, 19J2 Ext. A ffair* 288

[Shri C. C. Desai}

thing in favour of Israel. But we must at- they would like to have. They have no least know who our friends are, who our future there and they have no future friends are in time of need. Israel was the here; they have no friends there and they first country in West Asia to offer recogni­ have no friends here, There are about tion to Bangla Desh, For reasons well-under­ 700,000 people there drawn from Tamil stood, Bangla Desh did not fall to the bait. Nadu and Bihar. They are a prosperous But the fact remains that when Egypt, when community, educated community and a well Afghanistan, when Iran, when Turkey and trained community of whom any country when every other Muslim country was oppo­ can be proud. But they suffer because India sing— was not recognising Bangla Desh, it does not show the same amount of cultural was that little country of two million of consideration which they arc entitled to Israel, which came forward to recognise expect. Bangla Desh. As 1 said, Israel is a poor country; it may be small country, but tech­ Ever since the last elections in 1971 nologically, culturally and in many other there has been a series of decisions which ways, it is fur more advanced than many could not have been more correct. There other countries of the world. Israel is a was first the open-door policy to the refu­ member of the UN, and yet we do not have gees from B tngla Desh; in spite of pressure diplomatic relations with that country. They from many sides of the House, the Prime have a small consulate in Bombay, but we Minister did not accord recognition to are not allowing a consulate to be opened Bangla Desh. There was suppoit to the even in New Delhi. This is how we treat Mukti Bahini, There was support to the our friends. Whatever one might say, 1 see liberation movement of Bangla Desh. Ulti­ no reason for us to show any sympathy to­ mately, when Pakistan attacked us, there wards these Arabs who have been a failure, was massive intervention and a war in which who have done uo good to us. there was spectacular success of the Indian forces. Then, there was a unilateral Some friends have also talked about declaration of cease-fire by our Prime African countries. Where are friends among Minister, the credit for which all the coun­ the African countries ? You may go and see tries of the world are now trying to take. the conditions of Indians in African coun­ The US President says that he inspired this tries. I have been there; t have been to uniiateral declaration of ccase-fire. The Kenya, I have been to Tanzania and Uganda UK says that they were responsible for it. and also to South Africa. I may tell you The Soviet Union thinks that they were that with all the apartheid of South Africa responsible for it. But they will not give the which the whole civilised world condemns, credit to where it belongs, that is, the Prime the Indians or the Indian population or the Minister of India, the Indian Government people of Indian origin or I would call the and the Indian people. Indian South Africans are far happier there than those Indians who are in Tanzania or Uganda or Kenya and some of those coun­ Pakistan has offered to renew diplo­ tries with which we profess to be friends. matic relations with India. That is very Why do we not see where our interests good. I hope that even before the summit He ? takes place, there will be an equal response from this side. As every Member has said in Wc condemn and rightly condemn the the House, we have nothing against the practice of apartheid against the Indian people of Pakistan. I have been a High population in South Africa, under the Commissioner for India in Pakistan for Group Areas Act, segregation, in regard to nearly four years, and I know how friendly employment and so on. But we also practice and how anxious the people of Pakistan are a certain amount of what I would call cul­ to establish friendly relations between the tural apartheid against the Indian population two countries, and how anxious they are to in South Africa. Wc do not give as many visit each other. But they have been the seats for admission to those boys in our victims-1 of thdkpolicies o f their Governments. medical colleges and other institutions as Lei the visa restriction be abolished, if you 281 D. G. Mm. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1 8 9 4 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 282

like, because no two countries are so similar adequate representation in the Common­ and so alike and have got so much in com* wealth Secretariat. mon in the whole world as Tndia and Pakistan, which were one until the 15th SHRI B. R. BHAGAT (Shahabad) : August, 1947. So, let the difficulties and The year 1971 was a year of turmoil and distress or 'he people of these two countries terror in international relations for our be uppermost in the minds of our negotia­ country. It goes to the credit of our Govern­ tors and let the visa regulations be abolished ment, Parliament and people that they stood as quickly as possible. Let anyone travel up to a man to face this unprecedented anywhere he likes, whether it be to Ajmer challenge to our freedom and integrity and to pay homage to the most sacred shrine achieved notable gains. The country’s grati­ for the Muslims in India or to Kashmir. tude is due to the Prime Minister for her They should be able to go anywhere. Simi­ remarkable feat of leadership during this larly, our people should also be entitled to most difficult period. This will go down as travel anywhere in Pakistan. the brightest patch in our history, something like our finest hour. Wc should also aim at one thing : when peace is restored, it should be one of the The Minister of External Affairs and understandings that both countries will with­ his Ministry showed great skill and adroit­ draw their cases from the Security Council ness in handling the most difficult and deli­ of the U. N. Technically, India’s case cate problems arising on the diplomatic against Pakisan is still there; technically, front during this period. Even the external Pakistan’s case against India is also there. publicity moved in perfect unison to project With the return of peace which I hope will our image abroad. I think the appreciation to be result of the sunmit talks in the near of the House is due to them. future, there should be withdrawal of cases by both parties so that these irritants are removed and thete is not only peace but During this period, great and cataclysmic genuine peace in the sub-continent. changes have taken place in the political scene in Asia. Every country is reassessing Papers report that there has been a treaty its national interest and realigning its external between Pakistan and the U. S. for mutual relations. India has emerged the most defence and it was registered with the U. N. important country down the Himalayas and As a member of the Consultative Committee is also at present engeged searching for of the Ministry and as an M. P., I asked new foreign policy options in such a vastly for a copy of that treaty. But so far it has changed situation. I think the House will not been furnished to us. We would like to agree that at present the critical continent is know why Government are so shy of telling Asia. And world politics seems to revolve the Indian public what defence treaty exists round it. Even if the present bipolcr world between Pakistan and the U. S , a matter of becomes triangular, and may with the inclu­ supreme concern to every Indian. sion of western Europe and Japan be extend­ ed and becomes a Pentagon, international politics in the near future, I think, will be Lastly, there is the Commonwealth Secre­ decided in Asia in the main. tariat. I have been to London and have seen how it works. In my opinion, it is nothing but a refuge for some of the foreign service *7 hr*. officers retiring or who have just retired. We contribute a substantial sum to the upkeep There is a tendency, however, to ignore and maintenance of the Secretariat office. I India’s importance in Asia, but 1 am sure it see no reason why we should help maintain is going to be temporary. India, in its own an institution which has been set up and right, by its size, its cultural and historical which is being kept up mainly for the bene­ heritage and its growing industrial and econo­ fit of the U. K. Government. They pass on mic power will not and cannot be prevented some of their burdens to India and other from playing its role in world affairs. countries. If we subscribe to the maintenance of this office, we should have a say in the th e sheet-anchor of India's foreign policy jjmtter of appointments and v*c should have bits been the singleminded objective of the 283 D. G. Min. o f APRIL 21, 1972 Ext. Affair* 284

{Shri B. R. Bhagat]

pursuit of peace. 1 think no other country neighbours so that they can resist external can match this pursuit Non-alignment, peace­ pre«sures alone, bilaterally or together. ful co-existence, independence and economic progress, and interdependence have been the In this context, the instruments of instruments of the realisation of this policy. economic co-operation promoting trade rela­ tions, creating a new lever and instruments The President, in his Address to the joint of understanding and inter-dependence, can­ session, said that “India does not seek not be overemphasised India, because of its leadership of domination nor will it tolerate paucity of resources, because it was itself a domination by any country.” India rejects developing country, could not roaster enough the doctrine of spheres ol influnce or the resources to put forward at the disposal of balance of power in Asia or anywhere in the the countries in the region. world. All countries, developing and developed, Sir, in this context of South-East Asia, have followed this policy. what do we see ? It has been our declared policy that this region, South-East Asia, must be free of foreign domination, influence and The Chinese came on the scene much involvement. As far back in 1968, during later than India in international trade. They her visit to Malaysia, the Prime Minister grew rapidly in their total volume of trade suggested that “Big powers should guarantee and their economic co-operation. They follow the security and neutrality of the countries two policies. They do not diffuse their of the region under the over all umbrella of resources over a number of countries. They the UN Charter.” India is lukewarm to knew where their national interests lie. They the Soviet proposal for an Asian collective went on the basis of selectivity. For example, security. This is because of the unwelcome they gave 800 million dollars to Tanzanian political overtones and the fear it may cause railways, one third of their total assistance. in the smaller nations who have long traumatic They have given assistance to Pakistan and experiences of military alliances and security a number of other countries also in the pacts ? Rather, she prefers to emphasise thd Persian Gulf. Although we have provided economic co-operation as a factor towards aid to countries like Nepal, the hon. Deputy regional stability. In her view, Asian security Minister said that we had given so far Rs. 81 has essentially to be ensured by the countries crores. We are very much behind in the total of the region. This is possible only when volume of assistance that should go from a their neutrality is assured by the big powers country like India to support our national whose continued presence either through objectives, international policies, peace and military involvements or through pacts like inter-dependence and to promote regional SEATO has kept the area in a state of stability. As a Member of the UNCTAD utmost tension for the last two decades. India is committed to provide one per cent of its GNP towards economic assistance. If India does not fully subscribe to tha we we take up countries with which it would western view that the Brezhnev doctrine of be in our national interest to promote closer collective security will lead to the creation relations in this region, we can use this lever of a new power bloc with the Soviet Union of economic inter-dependence and assistance having a leverage. India, having consistently in the promotion of peace and stability in advocated the “hands off Asia” doctrine, can­ this region. not fully support a proposal with mixed reactions and the fears of a new power It is true that we have made a beginning alliance which the American association in in Nepal and Ceylon where we have signed a Asia has evoked. Therefore, a certain me­ trade pact. We have deliberately allowed asure of internal stability and security is Ceylon to export more to India to narrow the essential for the preservation of peace in gap of their trade balance. Similarly, if we this region. India’s belief is that stability is adopt liberal policies in various other count­ possible through a greater degree of economic ries of East Afrieea, Persian Gulf and South co-operation. We want strong and stable East Asia certainly we can go a long way in 2*5 D. G. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1894 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 286

promoting our concept of stability in this new changes, and that is Japan. Its whole region through economic inter-dependence In mental and politcil attitude is in the melting this vastly changed situation, we cannot sit on pot. It is one of tho most industrialised and old laurels. We have to take new initiatives. technologically advanced countries of the What are the directions in which our world, as one example will sh'>w. They are diplomatic initiatives are required ? The first loading one million tonnes of cargo every priority is in the subcontinent where great day. You can imagine the enormity of its changes have taken place; the entire picture industrial power. 1 think it will be advan­ has changed Our relations with Bangla Desh tageous to our national interests that we arc on secure and sound foundation with the forge closer economic, cultural and other signing of a tieaty of peace, friendship and relations with Japan. It will be specially co-operation As far Pakistan, at the moment advantageous for promoting peace and pro­ I do not want to dilate on this subject beausc sperity in this continent. Mr. D. P. Dhar has gone to Islamabad, it is a delicate subject. I think here also our There are areas of common interest bet­ objectives are very clear. The old policy of ween India and greater Europe. The House confrontation between India and Pakistan will appreciate that the attitude of the that was nurtuied by some leaders in Pakistan European countries, Great Britain, France and and by some world powers also is dead. The Germany, on Bnngla Desh was in refreshing sooner the leaders of Pakistan realise that it contrast to the attitude of the United States. is fruitless to carry on the process of con­ They have recognised the realities of the frontation with India, the better it is for situation there. Europe today is the chief them. Our Prime Minister and the Foreign centre of rival power, both to the United States Minister have said that we are interested and USSR, and they match their technologi­ in a durable peace. I think there is no cal, industrial and other resources. There­ harm in Parliament and the country experess- fore, since they recognise the realities and ing the hope that we are interested m a econ­ they have shown their awareness to come omically viable and strong Pakistan and closer and appreciate our point of view, I politically stable and, philosophically, if 1 think it will be of greater ad\antage to us to may say so, peaceful Pakistan. In that promote greater relationship with Western pursuit, if any concession is to be made, well, Europe. Western Europe is asserting its in the interest of peace, in the interest of independence from the United States and its durable peace, that can be made. But it most real is tic approach to the Bangla Desh should be remembered and it should be known issue should hearten us. to every body that India does not believe in bullying anybody, nor does it allow itself to Coming to the three major powers, be bullied by anybody. USSR, United States and China, our rela­ Therefore, w i have to build our relations tions with the USSR have developed stea­ with Pakistan on this basis and bring an era dily and strongly over the decades and of regional co-operation in this part of the culminated in the signing of the Treaty of world, between Pakistan, India and Bangla Peace, Friendship and Co-operation. It is Desh, something like the success which the a model for relation between two countries European community has achieved. It is true iu the present day world, based on mutuality that the latter is in a different context and the of interest, equality of status and not based nations concerned are affluent nations, on exploitation of one another. It is in developed nations with vast resources and sharp contrast to the attitude which the advanced technological skill at their disposal. United States has taken about this continent, Here we have a different heritage of culture and India in particular, (t is because the and wisdom in this part of the world. United States policy is divorced from reali­ Certainly, all the countries in the Indian ties and it has not realised its follies that sub-continent can build an area of co-opera­ it is meeting one defeat after another in tion as another example of success Asia. As the Prime Minister said yesterday, of regional co-operation based on freedom, the day is not far off when the people of co-existence and peaceful relations. Vietnam will liberate themselves and the American army will be withdrawn from We have to look to another country Vietnam. Let us hope they will change their Winch has been affected very sharply by the attitude As we say, if they are friendly to us 287 D. G. Min. o f APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 288

[Shri B. R. BhagatJ we will be friendly to ihera. If they do not greater objective of developing a new fra- want to be friends to us, we cannot help it. termty. We will follow our own policies, according to our own national interest and the basic Bangla Desh freedom fighters and the objectives that have been laid down since Indian freedom fighters jointly fought the independence. war for the liberation of Bangla Desh and it is not only expected but it is our duty that we should also jointly conclude the So far as China is concerned, it is our peace treaty with Pakistan. great neighbour The logical extension of China’s current posture would have been, to try and resolve the Sino-lndian dispute I am sorry to say that some of ihe and normalise relations with New Delhi. world powers are trying to exercise pressure There were indications of that earlier. We on us to enter into bilateral talks with hoped that, with the exchange of ambassa­ Pakistan. But our joint effort with Bangla dors, it would have been possible to promote Desh enjoined upon us that our approach to our relations. But, to our regict, probably Pakistan should not be a bipartite approach their efforts to counter Moscow’s diplomatic but it should be a tripartite approach. From trust in Asia have, undoubtedly, provided that standpoint, I feel that it would have some distortions in their policies, parti­ been in the fitness of things if one of the cularly towards the Indian subcontinent. secretaries of the Foreign Office of Bangla That shows theii attitude to Bangla Desh Desh had joined Shri D. P. Dhar in his crisis, Pakistan and India. We hope, although talks with Shri Aziz Ahmed in Rawalpindi. we rule out any sudden change in their atti­ tude, slowly Peking will respond to India’s I feel very strongly that our Prime efforts to normalise relations and we will Minister should not have bilateral talks extend the hand of friendship if it is accep­ with Mr. Bhutto, leaving Sheikh Mujibur ted by them. Rahman alone. It means that Pakistan will have to recognise Bangla Desh first and Finally, Indian diplomacy has to actively only then theie should be a summit talk not pursue the advancement of national interests between India and Pakistan alone but bet­ in these directions. More option will be ween India and Bangla Desh and Pakistan available to us as the situation unfolds itself where our Prime Minister, the Prime Minis­ in the coming months. These or similar ter of Bangla Desh and the President of moves will remove any misconceptions over Pakistan will be represented. Also, it is the Indian role in the major capitals of the desirable that such talks should be held world. They will show that for India the not in Pmdi but prefeiably at Dacca. If world power structure is neither bipolar nor there is any peace treaty, that peace treaty triangular. W hat we seek is a world rela­ has to be signed jointly by the President of tionship in which a large number of powers Pakistan, the Prime Minister of India and are involved. For us the world order should also the Piime Minister of Bangla Desh. cease to be the exclusive prerogative of a group of powers, whatever be their size, In our desire to sign the peace treaty we their GNP or their arsenal. The world today should not in any way give up the right of is particularly conscious of India. Let us Bangla Desh to try the war criminals at not miss this opportunity of driving home Dacca. Wc should also not forget all the this lesson to them. damage caused to the people of Bangla Desh and reparation for the war losses as also for SHRT SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Sir, the exploitation during the last decades Baogla Desh is the beginning of a new era, of the revenues and foreign exchange of a now history not only for Bangla Desh but Bangla Desh by the Pakistan Government for the whole of the Indian sub-continent. should also be asked for from Pakistan, for It is for this reason that we should very the reconstruction of Bangla Desh. carefully, judiciously and even with warm feeing nourish this process for future deve­ The issue of repatriation of prisoners of lopment and future consummation of a war of Pakistan from India and our prise- 289 D. O. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1*94 {SAKA) Ex/. Affairs 296 nets of war from Pakistan and the issue of Government as I want to be enlightened occupied Kashmir should be finally solved. about the role of Shri D. P. Dhar. He has There should not be any question of with­ played a big role in the Bangladesh matter. drawal of oar army from occupied Sind T think, this gentleman, without knowing unless Pakistan agrees to vacate their army the cultural background of Bangladesh, from our land, from the occupied Kashmir. without knowing the linguistic background Mr. Bhutto is using many generous words, of Bangladesh and also the historical back­ soft words and kind words. It is known to ground of Bangladesh, has meddled and everybody and nobody requires any expla­ created more problems rather than to solve nation as to the motive of Mr. Bhutto. It is the issues. to get back the prisoners of war to Pakistan. As soon as he gets back the prisoners of I want to know what is the real status war he will have a different face. His whole of Shri D. P. Dhar. He is the Chairman of attitude towards India will change. There­ the Policy Planning Division of the External fore, if you have to resolve the problem of Affairs Ministry —which is a peculiar innova* Indian sub-continent, you should bring about tion. Is he a Super-Minister ? Is he a a correlation of stability, peace and security Minister ? Does he belong to a rank of in the sub-continent. The whole matter is to bureaucracy ? Whenever he goes to Bangla­ be thrashed out, and thrashed out finally, desh, he poses himself as a Super* Minister. with a resolute will that we are not tricked He has created a lot of troubles and mis­ into the politics of Pakistan when they are understandings in Bangladesh. He has said talking of the summit meeting to get back manythings there. I have no other alter­ the prisoners of war to Pakistan. native but to come out openly in this House about the role of Mr. D. P. Dhar. I used 17 33 h r s. to communicate to the Prime Minister as much information as I got from Bangladesh. fSiiRi K. >». T iw m iy in the Chair ] 1 do not know what is the status of Shri D. P. Dhar. He always poses as a Super- In regaid to Indo-Bangladesb relations, Minister. He creates more trouble in Bangla­ I want to draw the attention of the Govern­ desh in relation to maintaining Indo-Bangla- ment that the political relations arc of a dcsh relations.. '(interruption). nature which fluctuate very often. As has been already said by the Minister of States the abding relationship between Bangladesh SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola) : You and India will be on socio-cultural basis, seem to have a personal grudge against the relationship between Bengalis on our him. side and on that side of Bangladesh and the caltural, social and economic relations SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I have not between us will provide the foundation for had the occasion to meet him personally, developing a permanent Indo-B^ngladesh except perhaps once in a party... (Interrup­ friendship. From that standpoint, we have tion). to see that travel facilities between Bangla­ desh and India should be as free as possible. SHRI V \SANT SATHE : Should a man be a Bengali to go to Bangladesh ? What kind of attitude is this ? I also want to draw the attention of the Government to another issue. The Enemy Property Act of Pakistan days still continues SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Should I say in Bangladesh. I know it is a delicate issue. then you have some personal relationship You have to carefully deal with the Enemy with him ? ( Interruption) I want to know Property Act issue with Bangladesh, if you from the Government what is actually the do not do, it will be difficult for the minori­ position of Shri D. P. Dhar. He is not ties who have gone there to stay there. The responsible either to this House or to Rajya real secularism that we want to develop here Sabha. I want to know whether he is ranked and their will not be possible. as a bureaucrate in the Foreign Affairs Ministry or he is a Minister or a Super- I want to draw the attention of the Minister. 291 D .G .M tn .a f APRIL 23, 1972 Ext. Affairs 292

SHRl ATAL B1HARI VAJPAYEE Then there is the question of Asian (Gwalior) : He is Minister in the making. Security Pact and also neutralising the Indian Ocean area. I want to draw your SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I want to attention to one point—what I have said know about that. It is a peculier inno­ about India getting involved into bloc vation. Our 2| decades’ policy of non-in­ politics. It will be our endeavour to see volvement in the international arena that the Indian sub-continent as well as the appears to be at stake. Nowadays we find Indian Ocean get neutralised from the forces a new pattern of international relation deve­ of big power politics and big power conflict. loping. Even those Powers who were involv­ If we continue in our over-emphasis to one ed in the NATO or SEATO power blocs, particular big power, then naturally we will — like West Germany, Britain, Japan, etc. have to face a perpetual tension in the — are trying to disentangle themselves from Indian sub-continent. ( Interruption) 1 want their commitment to bloc politics. That is to say frankly that we should avoid big why Japan is making overtures to Russia, powers like China or U. S. A. or Russia. I That is why West European countries are want to see that there is stability, security, also making overtures to Russia. A new and cooperation among the Asiatic countries kind of trade relations are developing bet­ of the southern part of Asia. For that ween different countries which were hostile reason, if there is a security part or under­ to each other, which were inimical to each standing, that will be among the powers other a few years before. Tt is clear that surrounding the Indian Ocean without a new pattern is developing. Wc find that bringing any big power of the world. many powers which were fitmly committed to bloc politics are disentangling themselves My concluding remark is that our foreign from their commitment to such power align­ policy should be guided by our national inte­ ments. I am all for Indo-Soviet friendship. rests; our foreign policy should be directed 1 am greatful as an Indian to the friendship, towards stability, security, and to lesson the effective and realistic friendship of Soviet tension in the Indian sub-continent. We Russia to India. But the over-bearing should avoid our involvement with the three posture of lndo-Soviet Friendship, and also big powers like USA, China or the Soviet our over-bearing commitment to Soviet Union. Russia bloc politics are creating international complications for us. The other nations of the world are getting themselves disentangled DR. H. P. SHARMA (Alwar) : 1971 from their commitment to bloc politics, but will be remembered as the year when the somehow or other, we are getting involved country came face to face with its real self, into bloc politics of Soviet Russia. I want to it is surprising how a country cun become a draw your attention, Sir, to what was said prisoner of some of the abstractions and by Netaji Subash Chandra Bose, as the myths planted on it by other countries. 1971 President of Haripura Congress, He made a was not only the year of liberation of very far-reaching observation about the Bangladesh but I would say in one sense, it foreign policy of India when he said : "The was the liberation of India from some of foreign policy of India should not be mixed the abstractions in which it found a prisoner up with the internal policy of India.” But, of itself. I am not trying to oversimplify it, unfortunatly, our Indo-Soviet Friendship is that a country becomes a prisoner of its not confined to foreign policy only; but own. One of the important developments of our Government have brought that policy last year was that thete was the end of the into our internal politics also. A pattern of vicious doctrine of the co-equation of India internal alignment of political forces is with Pakistan. That was our main problem developing in India. I will only ask the for the past 25 years. This has prevented Government to take a lesson from us from getting our rightful place in the Indonesia and also take a lesson from Egypt comity of nations which was due to us by before this kind of mixing up of foreign our geo-political situation, by our population policy with the internal policy is done. If and by our economic strength. It also put they are mixed up, I do not know where an end to the political merry-go-round in it may lead us to. I want to caution the which every country thought that it had a Government about such political alignment. right for a free ride 293 0 . &, Min. of VAtSAKHA 5, 1S94 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 294

Another myth that was exploded was little while ago, Mr. Dinesh Singh—a very that Judia would take a low posture and senior Member —was saying that we should would never dig in its toes and fight for try to reach the public of the United States its legitimate rights. So, I said that 1971 over the head of the Government. It still was more than a year of liberation of shows that in spite of all the contradictions Bangladesh, because India really did recog­ and everything that the country has, demo­ nise its interest and fought for it. There was cracy still does have a certain bearing in the a heavy price paid for it. I don't want to go life of the country. Sir, I will not go into into this. But we did not get into this, pro* all the dis-appomting stances taken by the blem without having realised the magnitude of United States at the 1965 war, imposition of it. I remember the Prime Minister had said embargo on arms and exceptions made to it that we would have to go through the hell and all that. But it all boiled down to one and I am very glad to say that to the thing that the United States has faild to eternal gratitude of the nation, the Prime stand by the constructive traditions of its Minister has steered the nation through own policy and that of course created a the troubled waters of, let us say, hell, with great deal of problem. I would just like to the leadership of the highest order. The end this part of the action of the United Prime Minister showed the right amount of States culminating in the despactch of its force at the right time and took right Seventh Fleat to the Indian Ocean. Perhaps decisions at the right time in spite of the we were also a little naive in the sense that pressures that were built on the Government we thought jf we could only represent the and on the Prime Minister. It may be said true facts to Washington that would correct lo the credit of the Government that it their policies. But I think Washington's refused to be stampeded ioto granting policies, for good or bad, or atlcast the way recognition even a day earlier that what was they dccided are crudc. really due. The credit is due to the Foreign Ministry also for its policy pronouncements MR. CHAIRMAN : You can take two which bore the stamp of the highest minutes. order. DR. H. P. SHARMA: Sir, 1 will try President Nixon got his Bay of Pigs in to cut down all these things and come the sub-continent of India, and China was straight to the point that 1 want to say. We exposed to what it was-bullying neighbour. have quite a number of friends who have Let us leave it at that. spoken about Vietnam and about other places. But I would like to say that perhaps One of the tragic parts of the drama we could devote out attention more to the that we went through last year was the problems which directly concern us. Which cynical part which was played by USA. Our means Pakistan, which means China, which Prime Minister pleaded with the US and meaws the Soviet Union. Sir, what do we said that every nation has its own cross to do about China ? There was a tot of talk bear. She even expected that understanding that things were getting improved, that we would come from the land of democracy, were even near the exchange of Ambassadors but in reality, the stand of the USA was but then suddenly with the onset of the one of the most disappointing experience Bangla Desh problem, their situation has that we had during the course of last year. changed entirely. Sir, what I am trying to It said one thing and did just the other. say about China is this. Mention has been It must be considered that in the life of the made in newspaper reports and it was United States some of the most forthright contradicted by our Foreign Minister, statements and stand were taken by respon­ and that is of course the conect version of sible people in public life in the United it, that we even offered to talk about Aksai States. I do not have to quote what Senator Chin with China. I want to emphasise Kennedy said or what some other Senator one thing. Offering Akasi Chin offering said or even newspapers like New York unilateral ambassadorial relations with Times and Washington Post. But I just want China, I think nothing would get us to draw the attention of the House, Sir, that to China unless China dccides that it is in in the United Stat

[Dr. H. P. SharmaJ

They are already in possession of it and they totally by the stand of Soviet Russia, which do not think they would gain very much by article 4 provide, that would also mean that just accepting it. But the real problem about we are also taking the stand with the Soviet China, Sir, is that we should really under- Russian troops on the Sinkiang border. stand the mind of China. One thing which These are the problems. I am not trying to I have seen all through their statements say one thing or the other against, but we during the past six monts especially, is that must take into cognizance these points and they have a security problem which is upper­ must not rush into a dialogue with China most in their minds and they consider the which perhaps in the present circumstances USSR their main enemy or adversary — will be unproductive. of course Japan is the secondary one-and in the same circJetbey put somewhare India also. Now, unless China feels sure that it «ft f^rrct wrafcft (jsrrfw) : has solved its security problems with USSR, *WFTfcT 5rt, SRifoJ *lft since we are bound in a treaty with USSR, our unilateral apptoch will never dis-engage sfiro % ^sTrTTT^nr m us with our problem of China. China must f t x |3 t t w m 1 1 f a r^ r % feel secure that they have solved their pro­ m % srrcsf?, blems with the USSR. Of course, when we see their speeches m the UN we find that they have always spoken about Soviet s r k ^rrprfsRFrm % troops is being amassed on there borders and Sinkiang; therefore, we can see the same fftar a n w f % a r ra F t t s w t play of forces in the Indian Occan that fjn rfa 3tt i ar*K fartfY while they are trying to be friend Iran. Kuwait etc., they want at the same time to % f^ff *r fjtar | ffr srrfrr be at the soft under-bolly of Soviet Russia. ?TPSRr ^TTcTT vfe TJtpV f^ft VT fm W t 1 feel that right now just the unilateral I f ? % fast *ft 33t

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vm arf?r ft aftr ar^ anfta % m * ger SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY s fte ^ l (Cooch-Behar): Mr. Chairman, Sir, the whole day long I have been hearing the speeches of hon. Membeis on this debate on f*TT^ T T ^ c ft *> 3 m t

% f f \ f n # t fa?n% v r s n ? ^ faSnr srr The hon. Deputy Minister said that T$r«nri w r f a r ^ T O 5 f i r % ^ ^ x m because of peculiar positions of our coun- 307 D. G. Min. o f APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 3 0 8

[Shri B. K. Daschowdhury]

try, because of our own size and because of The non. Deputy Minister clearly ex­ special interests, India has a special role to plained that, by and large, we have good perform. There is no doubt that India has relations with Nepal, good relations with to take the leadership today, in order to Ceylon, good relations with Burma and the have a peaceful zone in the entire Asian only exception that we find amongst our area. Not only in South-East Asia, not only immediate neighbours is Pakistan. It has in West Asia but also in Central Asia. been dealt with by an hon. Member that any sort of scttement should not be dabbled Sir, we know that the entire world is in so long as the entire Jammu and Kashmir praising Government of India’s measures and area is not given to us. 7 hat is an inter­ foreign policy adopted under the dynamic national issue. This is not the time that we leadership of our Prime Minister and also should go on with this ticklish problem. the External Affairs Minister. As a result No doubt, I say, as far as possible, we have thereof, a new nation has come up—that to settle the issue with a resolute will that is, Bangla Desh. In the last year, the Bangla our rights, our tertitorial rights, to what Desh situation was not appreciated by most extent it is possible, must be defended. of the countries of the world. But, by and Even if it is so neccssary, I do not think large, they are coming to recognise Bangla there will be anything wrong on the part of Desh and they are appreciating the situation. this Government or anything wrong on the Even America, only the other day, recognised pm of foreign policy that is to be adminis­ Bangla Desh. But still what is their objective ? tered by the Government to have a settle­ What is still the view of America towards ment in order to have peace and cooperation Asian nations, towards our country ? It is and in order to see that developing nations that let the ‘Asians fight *ith Asians’ and have a foothold in their economic-building America to have a foothold into South-East programme. Only this should be considered Asia in order to make these Asian nations by the Government that we must carry the weaker and weaker, in order to not give confidence of the leaders of Bangla Desh in them any chance to have self-determination our terms of settlement with Pakistan. * * and self-realisation. With this end in view, * it is the American policy, the Nixon Administration's policy, to offer help to It has been said about the Arab coun­ tries. It is a fact that in spite of our best certain nations, to certain countries neigh- t bouring India, so that those can work friendship, in spite of our wish to have against us. friendship with Arab countries, most of the Arab countries did not respond to a proper i Bangla Desh is a fact now. In view of appreciation of the Bangla Desh situation at * * the fact that wc want developing nations to the time. But now that situation is over. build up their own economic footholds so Only because at a particular time some of that they become big nations of the world, the countries did not respond or did not should we allow this country i. e. America, appreciate the situation, does it mean that to poke their nose into our affairs and help we should not have any relation with that some countries amongst our neighbours so country now ? that they can always work against our plans 1 and policies ? Take, for example, Pakistan. The hon. leader of the Jana Sangh Party It is quite reasonable to understand that it ought to have taken another example of is the correct time, the Government of India developing relations between America and should settle issues with Pakistan. It is not China. These two countries have had no the matter for consideration today as to good relations for Jong, long, years. Under what was the situation, what was the attitude the pressure of circumstances for political i of the Pakistan Government, the military interest of both the countries, these two regime or even later the present President countries, we know, are making their friend­ Bhutto had taken in respect of Bangladesh ship. Though it is a fact that China has not and what still they are thinking about it. recognised Bangladesh, atilt for their interest It Is for our interest and for our own benefit or looking to the pressures of the American that we must have good relations as far as people, in general, the American Government possible towards our neighbours. bad to recognise Bangladesh. It does not 309 D. G. Min. o f VAISAKHA 5 1*94 (SAKA) Ext. Affairs 310 mean that, in the international sphere, we mentary. I would like to remind these hon. have to limit our appreciation, we have to Member that while he referred to Horipura limit anybody’s appreciation or anybody or speech of the then Congress President, Netaji any country should limit its appreciation to Subash Chandra Bose, he said that Netaji such an extent as to cut down the sizes for Subhash Chandra Bose had said in this speech past actions. In the international sphere today that there should not be any mingling of the entire world has undergone a certain foreign policy and home policy. I think, the change, not only due to this technological hon. Member should go through the speech development with the beginning of this year again and he would have this clarification 1970, of this decade, but there are certain of the matter. It was said that a country's changes and the effect of these changes we foreign policy should be the projection of find today in the power politics or in the Home-Folicy. super power politics. We find that the power blocs have been divided not according to SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Are you trying ideologies but according to their national to teach me those things ? What did he say, interests. An hon. Member asked why should and in what context ? You should go through we involve ourselves with some countries in that speech again. What you are trying to such a fashion that our interests might be analyse what is just the reverse of what he hampered. That is not the case. We m ^t said. always make our home policy in such a fashion that we can properly project our SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : If foreign policy; or, we can say, in other words, any one says that he has the monopoly of that foreign policy and home policy are saying something or quoting something, I do nothing but complementary to each other. not have anything to say. I will simply requ­ We cannot differentiate between these two. est the hon. Member to go through the spe­ Unless we are in a position to have a home ech again. If I am wrong, 1 will certainly policy regarding economic development, more get myself corrected. But what I personally and more industrialisation, agrarian reforms, feel is that the Hon’ble Member should have etc., we will not be in a position, as some of proper interpretation of the speech. the hon. Members and senior Members said, to contribute better through our foreign effec­ tive policy, (interruption) What I was going to say was this. In the entire South East Asian region, we find that SHRI SAMAR GUHA : There were two the Americans are having their foothold. In flags crossing each other ^^(Interruption) that context, I must refer to Vietnam. Only yesterday our Prime Minister said that the Americans must vacate it, and sooner they SHRl B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : My vacate, it is better for the Asian nations. We hon. friend and my CPM friend to whom I must have the proper interest foT Vietnam. have great respect and regards seem to be The hon. Member from the other side said : upset with these two flags. It is not a ques­ ‘nowadays we find a certain change in the tion of flags. Look at Bangla Desh today. foreign policy of the Government of India, What was the flag last year or even a year regarding Vietnam, as we are taking proper before ? This flag has changed. It is not a steps’, as if we had not taken proper steps question of flag. It is a question of mind so far. That is not the question. We might with which you have to work, with which you have committed some mistakes in the past. have to proceed ahead. We must have this But what is the policy today ? What is the perspective. What I was going to tell you... present policy of the Government ? What are ( interruption ) we going to do in the future ? In that con- text only, this matter has to be discusscd and SHRl SAMAR GUHA : It is develop, debated upon. ment of certain minds.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Please do not make Sir, we must have proper interest in the a running commentary. development of Vietnam bccause what will happen in Vietnam will certainty affect the SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : The Sauth-East Asian nations and it will certainly hon. Member was making a "running com* affect the future development of this country 3 1 1 D. G. Min. of APRIL 25, 1972 Ext. Affairs 3 1 2

(Shri B K. Daschowdhury] also. Supposing today there is a barter system cooperation in the entire region. With these between the Americans and the Chinese, to words, I thank you very much. have a sort of development of their interests, China ft going to try to put its big thumb SHRI TULSIDAS DASAPPPA (Mysore): over the South-East Asian region and put I rise to support the Demands of the External pressure on some of the countries in favour Affairs Ministry. At no time the External of their own ideologies or values or whatever Affairs Ministry has deserved our congratula­ they might be, or in their own national tions as now, especially, the Minister for interest, regarding Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, External Affairs, Sardar Swaran Singh ji and and unless we take our strongest interest in his able team have been able to achieve this Vietnam issue our interest in future will during the last one year something which also be affected, and our Government should this country has never witnessed. Last year not overlook this situation. has been extremely eventful and the struggle that we have gone through has resulted in extraordinary success. The laurels that we 1 would like to make two suggestions have is the result of years of painstaking, before I conclude. Hon. Members said about patient and indomitable endeavour of our the reorganisation of the Foreign Policy Prime Minister. Administration. I would suggest this, not in order to cnticisc our Foreign Policy Admini­ stration, but to improve matters, I would MR. CHAIRMAN : Be very concise. suggest to the hon Minister to consider that this is an age of specialisation. So, would SHRf TULSIDAS DASAPPA : This was it not be better on our pan to see that our because of the unstinted support of the people embassy administiators or our Indian Foreign of our country who were there behind the Service personnel should be trained properly Prime Minister in the great role that she with the culture and the language of the played recently. country to which they are going to be posted ? Sir, 3 or 4 days ago, the Australian High With regard to Bangla Desh, I am afraid, Commissioner presented his credentials to the I need not take much time because much Bangladesh authoiities in Dacca and fortu­ has been said about this. I would only add nately, Sir, this Australian High Commis­ that we should at this time give credit to the sioner, while introducing and presenting his people of Bangla Desh for their extraordin­ credentials spoke in Bengali, the local langu­ ary valour and the great spirit of sacrifice age of the country and the nation. But to that they showed. It is indeed a great gain that extent our officials have been giving this for our nation that we have got such a good sort of training for the countries to which neighbour and friend in Bangladesh. they are posted ? We find sometimes that officials are transferred at very short notice During the last year, the most glorious From Moscow to Moracco and from Mexico action of our nation, perhaps, according to to Tokyo. This is something which our hon. me, is the time when we took the decision Minister should consider, as to what extent to ceasefire. That has in fact enhanced the we can give them proper training, to know prestige of this country. Our country had culture, language, history and politics of the been misunderstood by many of the nations, country, where they arc posted. but now they have started rethinking about their assessments of our country. In this Secondly, about China, I wish to say respect, 1 would say that even some of the this. Wc must have secured good relation Middle East countries and Arab nations, with Cntna, whether China wants it or not. I am sure would have revised much of their It ati depends upon how we approach this opinion about our nation. problem. If necessary, as one of the hon. Members suggested, Jet us place one of our We are just now at the threshold of our talk* ambassadors there. Let us understand them. with Pakistan. I am sure our Extern?! Affairs Let us give them a chance to understand us Minister has been extraordinarily cautious in properly so that we can have peace and this matter. Shri Atal Bibari Vajpayee wa$ 513 A 0 . Min. o f VAISAKHA 5, 1894 Ext. Affairs 314 saying something about what our External the Government of India in regard to Viet­ Affairs Minister had said on the 21st Decem­ nam. We have consistently been rational ber, 1971 in the UN Security Council, If I and we have always been sympathetic to the may requote what Shri Afal Bihari Vajpayee Vietnamese people and in their struggle we had quoted, it would go to show that what­ have always wished them well. But the time ever adjustment we would like to have in has come when we could divert our attention regard to the ccase-fire line in Kashmir can from some of those international problems only to be our national interest; whatever by rendering assistance and help to the minor adjustments we would like to have affected and distressed peoples elsewhere. would be towards bringing about more “stability*’, and it would be more “viable”, There has been a question raised here and I am sure that we would never take a with regard to the recognition of the PRG wrong step in this direction. As the hon. in Vietnam. But as has already been said Members of the Opposition themselves have by a Member of the Opposition, even with complimented, we find in our External Affairs regard to rhe recognition of Bangla Desh we Minister an extremely cautious and wise had our own timing, and the hon. Prime man, and, therefore, 1 do not think that Minister has in fact been complimented for Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee should have any her keen sense in this regard. So, 1 do not apprehension about the statement that had understand why hon. Members should be been made by our External Affairs Minister worried so much now about the question of in the UN Sccurit> Council. non-recognition of the PRG in Vietnam now.

We also know that President Bhutto has I would like to point out that the Prime given enough of warning to us by his own Minister had enunciated her policy very well utterances. Only jcsterday, he said, I quote: only yesterday in regard to neo-colonialism. Wc want peacc, because we have not the She said ; resources to step up a war. 1 his was what President Bhutto had said only yesterday. It “A people who look to outside for help is not that we are unaware of this statement cannot be strong The pursuit of econ­ of President Bhutto. I am suic that our omic scif-rehance and social advance delegation will have all that necessary equip­ also acts as a deterrent to new foims of ment to meet the proposals which might be economic and political colonialism.” brought forward by Pakistan.

This has been consistent with our party Yet another question had l*een raised in policy. Also in our election manifesto, par- this House just a little while ago in rcgaid agtaph 3 1, we have said : to the status of Shri D. P. Dhar whom wc have sent to Pakistan. Of course, at the moment, he is not any non-otticial or “In the past, we have been able to resist Government leader of that t>pe, but even and frustrate such pressures by summon­ according to our own arrangements with ing every ounce of our will and energy. Pakistan, we wanted to have the talks at the Self-reliance is the economic counterpart official level before the summit meeting of political independence and us achieve­ could take place, and I think, therefore, that ment will deter other powers from the whatever steps have been taken now by the temptation of attempting to put pressure Government of India are just the right on us.” things. 1 would once again repeat that we are very clear even before we could go for Last year we have hud the unique the talks that President Bhutto is not inter­ achievement of the conclusion of the Indo- ested so much in co-operation as in confron­ Soviet Treaty of Friendship. This is a great tation. landmark in the history of our nation and of the world because it is a pace-setter for all Since Z do not have much time at my other nations. disposal I would not like to expatiate on the Vietnamese policy of the US Government. One word abcut the European countries However, I must say that there has been no led by UK. They have been extraordinarily change in the policy, according to me, of realistic iq their approach. When they, 3 1 5 D. G. Min. of A P R I L 25, l * n Ext. Affairs 3 1 6

[Shri Tulsidas Dasappa)

specially UK, found that they had to revise A word about cultural relations specially their own earlier stand, they did not hesitate with those countries which are hostile to us to do so. They did not stand on prestige and these nations which are indifferent to and they were able to persuade themselves to w . I think we must step up our cultural abstain from the Resolution in the General relations with them. We must try and send Assembly on the issue of Bangla Desh. as many delegations as possible of artists, literateurs and so on to those countries. 1 must compliment the work of our foreign missions. They have been extremely MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Sant Bux alert and have done a good job in trying Singh. to keep up the best of relationship with other nations. There was a general com­ SHRI SANT BUX SfNGH (Fatehpur) : plaint —and I was also one of the persons Mr. Chairman... who made it—about their functioning, but I must say that the India-Pak conflict and MR. CHAIRMAN : He may continue the Bangla Desh issue definitely acted as tomorrow. catalytic agents to some of our foreign missions and they have become very active. 18*34 hr*. I hope they will be able to continue their alertness and fine performance in future The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven also. We shall look to their achievement o f the Clock on Wednesday, April 26, with great interest. WlfVaisakhu 6, 1894 (Sako)

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