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A Conversation with Ambassador Carlos Trujillo on President Trump’S Strategy in the Americas AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE VIEW FROM THE SUMMIT: A CONVERSATION WITH AMBASSADOR CARLOS TRUJILLO ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S STRATEGY IN THE AMERICAS DISCUSSION PARTICIPANTS: ROGER F. NORIEGA, AEI CARLOS TRUJILLO, ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES 2:00–3:00 PM THURSDAY, MAY 3, 2018 EVENT PAGE: http://www.aei.org/events/view-from-the-summit-a-conversation- with-ambassador-carlos-trujillo-on-president-trumps-strategy-in-the-americas/ TRANSCRIPT PROVIDED BY DC TRANSCRIPTION — WWW.DCTMR.COM ROGER NORIEGA: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you very much for joining us today here at the American Enterprise Institute. Please, if you don’t mind, silence your phones. If they go off, they will be confiscated by our burly staff. We are very privileged to have with us Ambassador Carlos Trujillo, the US permanent rep- resentative to the Organization of American States. He represents us at the Permanent Council, that body which is the organ responsible for making the essential important decisions, in addition to the General Assembly. And he is confronting an extraordinarily busy agenda in Latin America, the Caribbean, our friends in Canada, confronting this altogether — these issues — as friends, as neighbors. And we are privileged to have him here today. Ambassador Trujillo was sworn in on March 30, 2018. He was the first political appointee of the Trump administration in the Western Hemisphere Bureau. He presented his credentials to the secretary general on April 5. He is a former prominent Florida attorney and politician. He served as a state representative for the 105th district in Florida. He was a founding partner of Trujillo Vargas Gonzalez & Hevia in Coral Gables, Florida. And we are delighted that he’s joined us here. And rather than read his bio, I thought I’d ask him — just so we could get to know him a little better — about — if you could tell us a little bit about yourself, your experience, your family, please. CARLOS TRUJILLO: Thank you, Roger. It’s an honor to be here. My name is Carlos Trujillo. I am the US ambassador to the OAS. It still gives me goosebumps to say that every once in a while. I’m the son of Cuban immigrants. Both of my parents were born in Cuba, got married, had four children. I went to law school at Florida State and was a prosecutor for four years in Miami, handling up to homicide cases. After that I started my own law firm and ran for state representative, a post that I held until March, when I resigned in order to accept this post. The last job I had as a state representa- tive — I was the budget chair. The state of Florida has a roughly $87 billion budget. I was in charge of appropriating that for two years. And I’ve been here for roughly a month. And I can tell you, I feel like I walked into the middle of the playoffs. Because I walked in — we had Lima. I was here for a week. Take a flight down to Lima. Attend the summit. Come back, we’ve had three — two or three Permanent Council meet- ings. We are heading into our General Assembly. Obviously, the Venezuelan elections are right around the corner, so there’s a lot going on at a very fast speed, but I’m very, very honored and humbled to be here with you all and to be in this position. AMB. NORIEGA: Well, I noted before to the Ambassador Trujillo, but before he came along, I was the youngest ambassador of the United States to the OAS. Then I went on to become the youngest ambassador — assistant secretary for Western Hemisphere Affairs. And you haven’t assured me yet whether you have designs on that job, but at least you’ll have to wait for a few years. It’s interesting — the Permanent Council — because I came from working as a congres- sional staffer, Senate staffer, and I found that it is kind of a legislative environment. Tell us a little bit about how you have acclimated yourself to that environment, to your team meeting with your counterparts. AMB. TRUJILLO: I think it is a very similar environment. Any political body, you have the organism in which you have to drive first an agenda and a policy and have a set of principles and ideals that you are committed to and try to advance those, and at the same time you have to build consensus and you have to build the votes. In my time at the Florida House, we had our agenda. And it takes time to define it and to craft it and to execute on it, but if you have an inability to build friends and to build con- sensus and to build like-minded people to support it, you are not really effective. So they both go hand in hand. And throughout my limited time at the OAS, I’ve seen that we some- what have an idea of our vision and our agenda. Now it’s really continuing to work on building the consensus in order to achieve it. That’s from the political side. And I think that from the budgetary side — my background really is budget. I’ve served also on the board of the fourth-largest hospital of the United States during the financial crisis, so I understand the budgetary side of things. I think the OAS has a lot of room for improvement. One of my focuses is going to be really on analyzing the institution as a whole and making sure that, first and foremost, it is a good return for the American taxpayer and that there is a longevity in the institution — that the decisions we make today are really going to put the institution in a better place in two and four and 10 years, which I think there’s a lot of work to be done as to that. AMB. NORIEGA: We’ll get down to those really gritty issues. Let’s stay at 30,000 feet if we could. The secretary — the State Department is now under new management. Your new boss, Mike Pompeo, arrived very recently and is beginning to put his own team in place. I’m not sure if you’ve had an opportunity to interact with him, but can you give us an insight on his perceptions of Latin America, what his priorities would be, and how that reflects President Trump’s mandate to him? AMB. TRUJILLO: I haven’t had an opportunity to interact with him. He was at the building this week, and our schedules haven’t coincided. He’s also very busy with a lot of other things that are forthcoming. But I think the president’s agenda, which the secretary will carry out, really is a restoration of democracy and human rights in the region. Some of the biggest violators are Venezuela and Cuba, Nicaragua. Those issues have to addressed. So I think his agenda and his vision, laid out by the administration now, with John Bolton also working toward that end, is really how do we achieve that. I think everybody agrees that we have to have human rights, we have to respect them, we have to have democracy, we have to have somewhat of a rule of law. So how do we achieve that, and how do we do it as expeditiously as possible? And I’m looking forward to working with the secretary in achieving those goals, and I’m really happy that he’s on board to really set the vision as we carry out that agenda. AMB. NORIEGA: We have been privileged to have former Director Pompeo here on this stage recently. He is a good friend of the American Enterprise Institute over the years, so I think I share your positive expectations for him, for the leadership he will bring there. He was very explicit that President Trump engaged with him on issues regarding the Americas very early on, and he gave some marching orders that put the US on the right side in terms of that dealing with that criminal regime in Venezuela. You just returned from the Summit of the Americas, as our event is organized about. And in the end, did it have a dramatic impact that our president wasn’t there and that we were represented instead by the vice president? He’s a man who’s had some interaction with leaders from the Americas already. Can you give us a sense of the tenor, the tone, the nature of those conversations that the vice president carried out? AMB. TRUJILLO: I think, obviously, everybody prefers the president to be present. But given the circumstances, it was more than acceptable. But the transition was absolutely seamless. The vice president showing up — he really hit the ground running. His ability to connect at a lot of those bilateral meetings, the amount of work that he has previously put into this region in meeting with leaders in Colombia and Brazil, down in Lima, I think was very well received. It was very positive that he has those personal relationships that he was able to connect and communicate and carry forward our agenda. One thing that he did that I thought was very powerful from the American perspective is meet with the civil society groups. He spent a significant amount of time meeting with dif- ferent civil society groups — Venezuelan and Cubans and others. And their reaction to those meetings were they felt reenergized. These are groups that just three years ago in Panama were beaten on the streets.
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