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1 YUKON-KUSKOKWIM DELTA ALASKA FEDERAL SUBSISTENCE 2 REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING 3 4 PUBLIC MEETING 5 6 7 VOLUME II 8 9 10 Yupiit Piciryarait Cultural Center 11 Bethel, Alaska 12 February 26, 2015 13 9:00 a.m. 14 15 16 17 COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: 18 19 Lester Wilde, Chairman 20 Robert Aloysius 21 John Andrew 22 David Bill 23 William Brown 24 James Charles 25 Annie Cleveland 26 Dorothy Johnson 27 Raymond Oney 28 Michael Peters 29 Greg Roczicka 30 Dale Smith 31 Anthony Ulak 32 33 34 35 Acting Regional Council Coordinator, Carl Johnson 36 Adrienne Fleek 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 Recorded and transcribed by: 44 45 Computer Matrix Court Reporters, LLC 46 135 Christensen Drive, Suite 2 47 Anchorage, AK 99501 48 907-243-0668/[email protected] 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 3 (Bethel, Alaska - 02/26/2015) 4 5 (On record) 6 7 CHAIRMAN WILDE: Call the meeting to 8 order. The time is now 9:00 o'clock. First on the 9 agenda this morning is usually we have at the beginning 10 of the we have public and tribal comments on non-agenda 11 items. 12 13 Is there anyone here besides I think we 14 have one. Mr. Alex Nick. 15 16 MR. NICK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, 17 members of the Council and the Staff. Audience. 18 19 I appreciate this opportunity to 20 provide some comments on behalf of myself, my family 21 who lives here in Kuskokwim area and also in Yukon 22 area, as well as elsewhere within the area. 23 24 What I would like to speak about this 25 morning is, as you know, last fall during the October 26 meeting you were given overview of rural determination 27 process, and also at the time you were given I believe 28 a report on recommendations from other Council members. 29 I mean, not Council members, but other Councils within 30 the State. 31 32 I think what the Council needs to do is 33 to focus on the next steps that were provided to you 34 last fall, and that the next steps were included as 35 meeting materials in your meeting book in October 2014. 36 One of the things that I would like to speak about is 37 when we look at rural determination process, we need to 38 not only think about ourselves. We need to think about 39 the future, because rural determination process at one 40 point in time maybe in the future will adversely affect 41 subsistence hunting and fishing in the region. 42 43 As you know, last fall -- not only last 44 fall, and if I remember correctly also in April of last 45 year, you were listening to comments from people from 46 Bethel as well as neighboring villages. I think what 47 needs to be done is there needs to be some homework 48 done by the Council, not only by the Council, but 49 people who live in a village like, for example, in my 50 Village of Russian Mission, in the Village of Marshall, 113 1 in the Village of Aniak, Akiak, elsewhere in the 2 region, because when we look at will impact subsistence 3 activity in the future, it's not something that we 4 should set aside and forget about. It should be 5 something that we should do something about. 6 7 This morning I was listening to the 8 news, and I heard in the news that only one person 9 provided public comment from Bethel. Bethel has a 10 population of approximately 6,500 plus. And that's 11 Bethel only. And what about neighboring villages like 12 Kwethluk, like Akiak, Akiachak. When they talked to 13 you about aggregation last fall, they also talked about 14 possibility of putting together the population of other 15 villages and include them in the future. That's 16 possibility. Like, for example, if there's a road 17 system between here and Akiachak, between here and 18 Oscarville and Napakiak, and road system elsewhere, 19 that will also be part of this process in the future. 20 21 I would like to recommend that the 22 Council do its homework. I would like to recommend 23 that the Council revisit some of the characteristics 24 that were presented to you, some of this is like 25 population threshold. 26 27 (In Yup'ik) 28 29 INTERPRETER: What is it, what is 30 population threshold. And it's based on the number of 31 people. 32 33 MR. NICK: Population of the area. And 34 I kindly ask the interpreters to interpret the terms 35 that people need to understand, like aggregating 36 populations or transportation, for example. We think 37 nothing important about transportation. Now we have 38 ice roads. In wintertime probably from around November 39 through maybe April sometime, we have ice roads. 40 People have access to Bethel. These are the things 41 that we need to think about when we think about our 42 future. 43 44 I am in no way criticizing the Council 45 and its Staff or the Department, but in the future we 46 must be aware that some of us will say, oh, we didn't 47 know about that. We didn't know this is going to 48 happen. 49 50 Let's take a look at, let's take a very 114 1 hard look at legislation of Alaska National Interest 2 Lands Conservation Act of 1980. It's called ANILCA. 3 Under ANILCA .805 OSM is operating and so is the 4 Council. When I traveled during that time on behalf of 5 YKHC, at the time I was a board member for YKHC, and we 6 were trying to establish clinics in the villages. I 7 noticed ANILCA legislation on the tribal council's 8 office -- rather in the tribal council's office in the 9 table without being opened. And now we hear complaints 10 about why we did not inform the villages when ANILCA 11 was being legislated. 12 13 Now the -- you know, after the passage 14 of ANILCA there's some amendments that is impacting us, 15 and it is going to affect some of our future as well. 16 17 I am not here to tell the Council what 18 to do. I am not here to recommend what the Board may 19 do, but I want to make sure that down the road sometime 20 people will be awakened by something. What I mean by 21 that is they will realize, why didn't we do this or 22 that before the rules are in place. 23 24 What's going to happen is very exactly 25 Federal Codes of Regulations that you operate under. 26 Rural determination will also be in the Federal Rules 27 and Regulations. And commenting nowadays, unless it's 28 written like this and given to the Staff, commenting 29 nowadays is a very hard thing to do, because you have 30 to go to www. I believe it's regulations.gov. It's 31 called erulemaking, electronic rulemaking portal. 32 That's where all of the comments are entered. 33 34 So I am hoping that you'll give us 35 opportunity to be -- or rather to provide input in the 36 future when some of the things that were in your books 37 in the past, as well as today, I mean, you know, the 38 last couple of days, are revisited. 39 40 I thank the Council for this 41 opportunity to provide you comment. I am not an 42 expert, but I appreciate that I was given an 43 opportunity to be part of your staffing in the past. I 44 learned a lot. I'm not an expert. I'm not a 45 professional. I'm not an educated person. But I know 46 what I see in the books like this, because I've seen 47 them in the past. I'm not going to say on line or in 48 record, I'm not going to say that we could do this, we 49 could do that. But we do have some avenues that we 50 should take in order to make certain that we're dealing 115 1 with in this case, rural determination process, 2 something that will benefit the future of our children. 3 4 5 I thank you very much for your time. I 6 thank you very much for allowing me to provide this 7 comment, these comments. And thank you very much, Mr. 8 Chair. 9 10 CHAIRMAN WILDE: Thank you, Mr. Nick. 11 Any questions for Mr. Nick. Mr. Aloysius. 12 13 MR. ALOYSIUS: Thank you. 14 15 MR. BILL: Mr. Chair. I want..... 16 17 CHAIRMAN WILDE: Hey, Bill, he's got 18 the floor. 19 20 MR. ALOYSIUS: Thank you. Alex Nick, 21 you know as much information as has been handed down 22 for over the years, like you said, most of it is just 23 put on a table and forgotten. We cannot police the 24 people. They have an opportunity to come here like 25 everybody else for input. Unfortunately, yesterday 26 there was only one person -- last night, I mean, there 27 was one person, but it's open to everybody. 28 Information has been handed down for days, maybe weeks 29 about what is going on, what would go on yesterday, 30 last night, and today.