Manchester Arena Inquiry

Day 9

September 22, 2020

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1 Tuesday, 22 September 2020 1 a true feeder and Christmas dinners were amazing with 2 (9.30 am) 2 everything you could possibly wish for and more. 3 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Mr Greaney. 3 She loved being outside and walking the dog. She 4 MR GREANEY: Sir, thank you. 4 was a true sun worshipper: if the sun was out, then mum 5 Pen Portrait of WENDY FAWELL 5 was out. She enjoyed reading and spending time with her 6 We’re going to begin today with the pen portrait of 6 family and friends . She had so much to live for and she 7 Wendy Fawell, prepared by her son Adam Fawell and mother 7 gave so much of herself . She was the one that could be 8 Julia Tiplady. Wendy’s family and friends are watching 8 relied on. 9 the proceedings remotely, including her son Adam, her 9 How can anyone put into words the devastation of 10 daughter Charlotte , and her mother Julia . 10 losing a loving daughter, mother and friend in such 11 The pen portrait takes the form of tributes prepared 11 tragic , insane circumstances? The loss is 12 by members of Wendy’s family and by Julia , Wendy’s 12 indescribable . We have never felt such grief . 13 mother. Those tributes will be read by 13 Her father never got over her death when he passed 14 Alex di Francesco, a member of the family’s counsel 14 away 11 months later, and her mother was left without 15 team. Before they are read, a presentation of 15 the support she should have had from Wendy. Her brother 16 photographs will be played . Once they’ve been read, 16 took her loss badly, as did the rest of her family and 17 a further presentation of photographs prepared by 17 friends . All this has left us all totally heartbroken 18 Wendy’s mother will be played , and at the beginning of 18 and our lives will never be the same. 19 that presentation there is a song: the song is 19 Every day little things bring home the fact that she 20 "Miss You" by Elvis Presley . 20 is no longer with us. This we will have to live with 21 So Mr Wilson, I ’m going to ask you to begin this pen 21 for the rest of our lives . 22 portrait , please , by playing the first presentation of 22 MR GREANEY: Next, Mr Di Francesco will read the tribute to 23 photographs of Wendy. {INQ035453/1} 23 Wendy by her mother, Julia . 24 (Photographs shown to the inquiry ) 24 ALEX DI FRANCESCO: On 12 December 1966, Wendy came into the 25 Next, I am going to invite Mr Di Francesco to read 25 world weighing 7 pounds and 7 ounces. It is amazing how

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1 the first pen portrait , which is entitled "Pen portrait 1 much love one can have for such a small being. She was 2 of Wendy Fawell by her loving family ". 2 beautiful and, along with her older brother Andrew, made 3 ALEX DI FRANCESCO: Wendy was born on 12 December 1966 in 3 mine and Michael’s lives complete. 4 Leeds. She attended at Rawdon Little Moor Primary 4 She was 8 months old when we moved to Rawdon and 5 School and then went on to Benton Park High School in 5 this is where she grew up. She was walking and putting 6 Rawdon. She gained employment working in Wendy’s Wools 6 three words together at 1 year old . At that time, when 7 Factory in Guiseley before working in Wilkinson’s 7 friends called to see us at Christmas, bringing a bottle 8 butchers . She then started working at a playgroup and 8 of Martini with them, we were asked if we would like a 9 got a job working at Eye Spy, a before and after -school 9 Martini , upon which Wendy piped up, "Wendy want a 10 club for St Oswald’s and Guiseley primary schools . She 10 ’ tini ". You don’t expect that from a 1-year-old . This 11 also worked as a dinner lady . 11 was Wendy: bright, sharp and a fast learner . 12 She loved her job, she loved children , and as she 12 She was about 18 months old, playing a game with 13 was fun to be around, children warmed to her and enjoyed 13 Andrew, when I noticed they were quiet . At that age, 14 spending time with her. She worked in this job until 14 quiet meant they were up to something. I opened the 15 the time of her death. Her death left all the children 15 lounge door to find Wendy sat on a buffet with a tea 16 she cared for bewildered . 16 towel round her neck playing barbers . Yes, she had sat 17 Wendy has always been a fun person, the life and 17 there and let Andrew cut her hair right down to the 18 soul of the party . She loved socialising and she loved 18 scalp . I just wish she’d been that good when I took her 19 her role of being a mum to Adam and Charlotte. She 19 to the hairdresser ’s to have it sorted out. 20 tried to mother everyone; she was just a nice and caring 20 She attended Rawdon Little Moor School, where I was 21 person that way. 21 on the PTA committee for a number of years. She enjoyed 22 Adam has fond memories of his friends calling round 22 her days there . One incident I remember was when she 23 to our house for pre-pub drinks and mum rustling up food 23 was 5 and I took her to the dentist . As I took her coat 24 for his friends to eat before they went out. She loved 24 off , she said , "I ’m not telling you what I have in my 25 people around her and was a brilliant cook. She was 25 pocket." At the time I was more concerned with how she

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1 was going to cope with being at the dentist , I just 1 paper while we made brake fast. I put the radio on just 2 said , "I don’t want to know." 2 in time to hear the announcement of Elvis’ death. 3 A few days later I was picking up her coat and 3 I looked at Michael, he looked at me. We both said the 4 remembered her remark, so I had a look in her pocket and 4 same thing, "I ’m not telling her." 5 found my silver charm bracelet all scratched . It turned 5 As they came back, Wendy was elated that they were 6 out she had been using it to play hopscotch at school , a 6 playing Elvis songs and danced around to the music. 7 chain being the in -thing for hopscotch. When I asked 7 Then the announcement came on again: "We are playing 8 her about it , she beamed up at me in all innocence and 8 an hour of Elvis tracks in tribute to the king who died 9 said , " It ’s brilliant , mam, a lot better than everyone 9 this morning." Well, that was it . We had a weeping, 10 else ’s ." I explained that she shouldn’t have done it 10 wailing child on our hands. There was just no consoling 11 and not to do it again and that was the end of that 11 her. The next day the promise of a trip somewhere and 12 I still have the bracelet , complete with scratches , and 12 treats soon brought Wendy back to normal, though I did 13 I treasure it . 13 spot the odd tear forming. 14 One day I had a call from Jack Eades, the 14 One day Andrew came downstairs fuming, "Have you 15 headmaster, who explained that while waiting for the bus 15 seen what she’s done?" I hadn’t, so I went upstairs to 16 to go swimming, Wendy had slipped backwards on some ice 16 see what had happened. Wendy had glued everything to 17 and banged her head on the ground. She was dazed and 17 the tops in his bedroom. I asked her why she’d done 18 a hospital visit was desired . As we got into Mr Eades’s 18 this and she said , "He accused me of moving things in 19 car , Wendy announced she felt sick . I took her swimming 19 his room and I didn’ t . He said when he put things down 20 towel and spread it over her in case she was actually 20 he expected them to stay there . Well, now they will 21 sick . The inevitable happened: she pushed the towel 21 stay there ." What could I say? She’d inherited my 22 away so not to soil it and you can imagine the rest . 22 wicked sense of humour. It took Michael ages to get rid 23 Our Sundays were special . As Michael would load the 23 of the glue . 24 car with tea-making facilities , I would do a picnic and 24 From Little Moor she went to Benton Park. There she 25 it was off to the seaside , usually Bridlington . Wendy 25 made many friends and brought them home to meet me; some

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1 really enjoyed this , especially when we took gran with 1 of them I’m still in contact with. One day when she was 2 us. 2 15, she came home with a friend. "This is Sharon", she 3 It has always been our aim to make our two children 3 said . Sharon Powell became a frequent visitor to our 4 equal, so when Andrew went on a school trip to London, 4 house and they became good friends, spending time in 5 Michael was determined to do something for Wendy. I was 5 Wendy’s bedroom playing music and discussing boys. On 6 helping out at a jumble sale at Little Moor when Michael 6 occasions they would come in with a bottle of Coca Cola, 7 came in and asked where Wendy was. He found her and 7 sneak my rum upstairs, and have a sneaky rum and coke. 8 said he was going somewhere and taking Wendy with him 8 They were never silly about it , just one naughty drink , 9 and he would see me back at home. 9 but they thought I didn’ t know. These were happy times 10 When I arrived home, Wendy was holding what looked 10 and Sharon became a lifelong friend . Through good times 11 like a small soft toy, then it moved. Honestly 11 and bad they were there for each other . Sharon still 12 I thought it was a rat . What is it , I asked. I then 12 calls me mam and I think I her as one of my own. 13 got one of Wendy as wonderful smiles, " It ’s a puppy." 13 After Wendy left school she went to work at 14 She had wanted a Yorkshire terrier ever since she saw 14 Wendy’s Wools with Sharon. They were always together. 15 the ones belonging to a friend of mine. That’s how we 15 Michael and I called them "The Terrible Two". Time 16 acquired the fifth member of our family. 16 moved on and although Sharon married Trevor and had 17 When Wendy was 7, I said to Michael, "There is an 17 a new life , their friendship was still strong . 18 Elvis film on television tonight ." Wendy chipped in, 18 Things have not always been easy for Wendy. With 19 "Who is Elvis?" I told her we would watch it and she 19 two failed relationships behind her, Wendy and her young 20 would find out. I expected her to turn her nose up and 20 son were back living with us. She got a job working for 21 go play , but no, she was hooked and an Elvis fan to the 21 Catherine Rigg, a preschool nursery in Yeadon. She took 22 end. She had all his films . I remember the day news 22 to this like a duck to water. Working with toddlers was 23 came out that he had died. We had bought a trailer tent 23 a dream for her. She decided she would get some 24 and were away at Skirlington . The routine was Wendy and 24 qualifications . She did and passed with flying colours . 25 Andrew would go to the shop on site to get the daily 25 Unfortunately , the nursery closed , she was very upset,

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1 but, Wendy being Wendy, she moved forward. 1 every day. I remember she organised foods from around 2 Around about this time, Sharon and Trevor moved into 2 the world for them, cooking different things for them to 3 the house next door, the Terrible Two ride again. It 3 try . 4 has never been the same since they moved out. 4 We often got phone calls from her. Did I have any 5 Wendy then went to work at Wilkinson’s Butcher’s and 5 of this , that or the other for something she was 6 many people still remember her warm, cheerful 6 planning for the children at Eye Spy. One time 7 personality and of course that smile as she served 7 I remember her telling me it was time to go home from 8 customers. Wendy didn’t go out at night , but it was 8 work but one child had not been picked up. The mother 9 just before Christmas and her birthday that Sharon 9 rang her because she’d been held up for some reason. 10 insisted they go out to celebrate . It was on this night 10 Wendy had to be home, so she took the little boy home 11 she met someone from her past. Things moved quickly and 11 with her, gave him his tea, and waited to his mother to 12 she moved in with Richard. They were married a few 12 pick him up. That was all part of the job to Wendy. 13 years later . 13 I also remember her being upset at the beginning of the 14 I remember the barbecues in their back garden. 14 6-week holiday because some of the children would be 15 There was enough food to feed an army. This was Wendy 15 leaving to go to secondary school . 16 at her best: looking after everyone, making sure they 16 Wendy will be missed by so many people. The days 17 were having a good time. 17 after we lost her, my house was full of flowers and 18 When they moved to Guiseley, Wendy went to work at 18 cards from many people who knew Wendy but I didn’t know. 19 a preschool nursery attached to Oxford Road School. She 19 My memories of Wendy are countless; these are just 20 was back where she belonged. She loved the children and 20 some. 21 they loved her. She had always wanted more children of 21 The day I lost her, a part of me died with her too. 22 her own. It was late coming but I remember I was in bed 22 I put on my make-up, brave a smile and face the world, 23 with a very bad cold when she came and sat on my bed. 23 but it ’s a different world now without Wendy. It was 24 Visitors were the last thing I needed, but she said 24 double heartache for me when, 11 months later, I lost 25 something that put me on top of the world, "You are 25 Michael, Wendy’s father. I like to think he is with her

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1 going to be a grandma again." 1 now doing what he always did: looking after her. 2 I was with Wendy when Charlotte was born. Richard 2 Lots of love , mum. 3 at one side of the bed, me at the other . I can still 3 MR GREANEY: That was the tribute to Wendy by her mother, 4 feel the vice - like grip she had on my hand. It ’s hard. 4 Julia Tiplady, and I am next going to ask Mr Wilson to 5 It was hard watching her go through it , but it was an 5 play the compilation of photographs accompanied by music 6 experience I would not have missed for the world, 6 that Julia has put together . 7 witnessing a miracle . 7 (Photographs shown to the inquiry ) 8 She was a wonderful mother to Adam and Charlotte. 8 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you, Mr di Francesco, and 9 They were always paramount in her thoughts and deeds. 9 thank you to the family for telling me about Wendy. 10 Then there were the caravan holidays , particularly 10 While not encouraging others to do it , I particularly 11 the ones in Devon at Shrubbery Caravan Park. We were 11 liked the story about the glue . And thank you to the 12 often joined by Tony, Sue, Stewie and Lorraine . If 12 family as well for telling me the gap in their life that 13 I close my eyes I can still see us walking from one end 13 her death has caused. She was a larger -than- life 14 of Lyme Regis to the other , stopping now and then for 14 figure , who gave so much to make the lives of others 15 Charlotte to have a go on the small rides or playing 15 happy. Thank you. 16 push penny in the arcades , and the cheesy chips . 16 MR GREANEY: Sir, would you rise now, please, and we’ ll 17 The evenings we spent in one of the awnings with 17 return to the hearing room at 11 o’clock? 18 a takeaway and a few beers . So simple, no frills , but 18 (9.50 am) 19 oh so happy. I have had many holidays abroad but none 19 (A short break) 20 stay in my heart the way these do. 20 (11.00 am) 21 As Charlotte grew up, Wendy moved from the nursery 21 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Mr Greaney. 22 where she worked to the after -school club Eye Spy, where 22 MR GREANEY: Sir, thank you. This is the pen portrait of 23 she became the manager looking after older children . 23 Saffie -Rose Roussos, who I will call Saffie during the 24 They all loved Wendy, especially the girls with long 24 course of my introduction . She was aged just 8 years 25 hair . They would go home with differently plaited hair 25 when she was killed and this pen portrait has been

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1 prepared by her family . 1 could sit in the car where she liked . Laid-back Xander 2 In the hearing room alongside me are Saffie ’s dad 2 didn’ t know what hit him as she worked him to her 3 Andrew Roussos, and Saffie ’s older sister , 3 advantage, but I remember the first time Xander had 4 Ashlee Bromwich. Watching remotely are Saffie ’s mum 4 a sleepover the back of the car was silent and when 5 Lisa , who we will see in a short time pay tribute to her 5 I looked back the tears were running down her face. 6 daughter in a video recording . Lisa will be with 6 Bravery and strength is one thing that she has. 7 Xander, Lisa and Andrew’s son, and the brother of 7 Just like her mum, she will fight to the end and not 8 Saffie . Also a family friend , Sam Harrison, will be 8 show defeat in anything she faced. From smashing the 9 there with them. Other family and friends will be 9 record on a pogo stick to climbing the highest , 10 watching our proceedings from locations throughout the 10 somersaulting in the most daring places , I ’ve got to 11 United Kingdom and in Cyprus. 11 say, kept us on our toes . I always watched in amazement 12 Andrew will read his tribute to Saffie . He will be 12 and admiration on how someone at 8 years old had so much 13 on the screen as he does so, save where he indicates 13 charisma and confidence to become whatever she wanted to 14 that photographs should be shown on the screen. Ashley 14 be. Even though mum was biting all her nails down and 15 will also read her tribute and she too will be on the 15 worrying on Saffie ’s every move, we both quickly 16 screen . Once Ashlee has finished , a presentation will 16 realised on how much of a free spirit Saffie is . 17 be played . 17 We watched and protected. I used to try and 18 So sir , I ’m now going to invite Andrew, when he’s 18 calculate the dangers ahead that could occur as Saffie 19 ready, to stand and pay tribute to his daughter. 19 was skipping down the pavement without a care in the 20 Pen portrait of SAFFIE-ROSE ROUSSOS 20 world. From climbing a 10-foot pole , hanging off the 21 ANDREW ROUSSOS: First I would like to thank you, sir, the 21 top with one hand, to doing back flips off the couch in 22 inquiry team, and my legal team for their hard 22 front of a large mirror weighing around 15 kilos , she 23 dedication for our daughter Saffie . Mr Greaney, we are 23 would not stop until she had perfected what she was 24 watching the inquiry remotely and you are coming across 24 doing. 25 with the highest compassion and sensitivity . 25 The first night Saffie had a sleepover I remember

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1 My daughter, Saffie . How can I describe perfection ? 1 waking up at 3 am having my very first panic attack and 2 How do you describe heart-melting love? How can 2 worrying about what could happen as our friends might 3 I explain them big brown eyes? How can I stand here and 3 not fully understand how daring she could be. I wanted 4 explain to you all in words what a beautiful little girl 4 to go and fetch her so I could keep her safe , but at the 5 she is ? It ’s like the best artists got together and 5 same time, knew how disappointed Saffie would be as she 6 drew her from top to toe with a heart so pure, so 6 was sleeping over for the first time. 7 innocent she melted people’s hearts . 7 I talked earlier about perfection . Saffie loved 8 Her mum worried in this world that we live in about 8 gymnastics. She would practice and practice until it 9 how open, trusting and social she is . I use "she is " as 9 was perfect . "Couldn’t do it " wasn’t Saffie ’s style . 10 I can’t accept I ’m doing this without Saffie . It ’s like 10 Mum and I took her to join a class and we were getting 11 having an out-of-body experience, it can’t be real . 11 worried about how these all back flips and somersaults 12 That will never happen. I am never going to accept life 12 and jumping off walls would end up in disaster . On her 13 without Saffie . She is my star, my admiration, my 13 first lesson her teacher says she needed to moved to 14 perfect daughter. 14 more advanced class as she was special . So I looked at 15 Going out with Saffie was like magic. She captured 15 Saffie and I said , "Are you excited?" for her to reply , 16 people by just looking at them and smiling. We would 16 "No." I looked at her and said , "Why?" "I already know 17 constantly get stopped on the street by people 17 everything , daddy." 18 commenting how beautiful she is with her amazing eyes 18 To become something in life you need to push forward 19 and smile . She always made people laugh, filled them 19 and not let anything get in your way. The knocks, the 20 full of love , always wanted to stop and help people in 20 bangs, the injuries throughout whatever Saffie was doing 21 need, and even then got a compliment and a smile. Don’t 21 never once stopped her or complained about it ; just 22 get me wrong, she had a naughty side that drove us up 22 a cuddle and a kiss is all she wanted. 23 the wall , from pranking her brother , Xander, 5 minutes 23 She loved to explore and see new things. She loved 24 before school , she used to put empty yogurt pots in his 24 big cities , big cities of a night time when all the 25 shoes, stalling him getting out of the house so she 25 lights were switched on. I remember the first time we

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1 went to New York, I waited for dusk before I took her to 1 The highlight of my weeks were when I went to visit 2 Times Square. As we turned the corner I covered her 2 my family. Away from the troubles of the world, I knew 3 eyes . What can I say? That look of amazement will stay 3 they were always there to keep me going and keep life 4 with me forever . 4 wholesome, being able to spend time with Saffie and my 5 We walked around and she spotted Toys R Us on 5 brother , Xander. Saffie would always ask me, "Ashlee, 6 Times Square and that’s where we were heading. Saffie 6 can we play a game?" I’d never hear the end of it until 7 spotted somebody dressed as Olaf and it was mine and 7 I gave in and said yes . 8 Saffie ’s favourite Disney character . He was outside the 8 I ’d sometimes surprise Xander and Saffie by picking 9 store taking pictures for a fee . Well, not Saffie . She 9 them up from school. I ’d be waiting for them in the 10 smiled and said , "Do you want your picture taken with 10 school playground, waiting for them to spot me. She’d 11 me?" Olaf said , "How could I resist ?" Saffie got 11 come running over, "What are you doing here?" And she 12 her picture , kept the money and, headed into the toy 12 would always ask, "Have you got me anything?" usually 13 store . 13 meaning sweets. So I learned my lesson to never arrive 14 On another full day in New York we headed back to 14 empty-handed when coming to see Saffie. 15 the hotel as we were all hungry. When Saffie gets 15 I was always proud to call Saffie my sister , I still 16 hungry, then you know about it. We got to the hotel at 16 am. She was someone I always wanted to tell people 17 4.30 pm but the restaurant didn’ t start serving until 5. 17 about and talk about. She was more than special : a rare 18 You can just imagine. But Saffie being Saffie , with the 18 soul . I didn’ t really ever realise just how precious 19 big brown eyes and her beautiful smile , walked up to the 19 each and every one of those times would be. How I wish 20 manager and explained the tiring day that she had had in 20 I had said yes to every single time she would ask me to 21 the city and how hungry she was. But guess what? The 21 play a game with her. What I would give to see her 22 kitchen was open. 22 running out of those school doors again directly towards 23 I can go on and on. Never will there be another 23 me. Our family will never be the same. Each and every 24 Saffie . Never will there be another kiss , a cuddle or 24 one of us remains a spare part watching the world pass 25 a smile . I try and picture what she would look like 25 us by.

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1 now, what she would be doing. What career she would 1 I have lost the ability to feel such emotions other 2 choose to the wedding dress she would pick to the adult 2 than grief and anger. It ’s like falling down 3 Saffie would be. I hope I can put across this precious 3 a never-ending empty pit of sadness. We are here but 4 little girl , a victim of innocence, that all she wanted 4 not. Our bodies move and our voices can be heard, but 5 to be is happy, loving and free to be a child , as every 5 our minds are absent. Still we carry on the days for 6 child should be. 6 each other , my family. It doesn’t get easier , just more 7 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. 7 and more confusing and the constant question of why. 8 MR GREANEY: I’m now going to ask Ashlee, once she’s ready, 8 The things that once brought us joy don’t . How can we 9 to stand, if she wishes to do so, and read her tribute 9 feel joy in our lives without Saffie ? She was our joy . 10 to Saffie . 10 The way I see the world will never be the same. 11 ASHLEE BROMWICH: Saffie-Rose, my sister, was the most 11 I feel so naive to think that life could bring no harm 12 beautiful and innocent little girl , yet very cheeky and 12 to those I love . Saffie didn’ t know of the horrors of 13 mischievous in her own way. She would know exactly how 13 this world. A child should be allowed to live an 14 to get what she wanted with one big, huge beaming grin. 14 innocent life . At 8 years old she should have only 15 It was impossible to ever say no. Her soul beamed so 15 known of love and happiness and what she could only 16 much joy and energy. She would always be dancing, 16 dream to become one day. She should never have had to 17 singing , spinning , doing acrobatics . She was a born 17 experience that . 18 entertainer and I knew that for the rest of her life she 18 I ’ ll never get to see Saffie grow from a child to 19 would live to put a smile on everybody’s face , even 19 a bright young crazy teenager and into the beautiful 20 a stranger ’s. 20 woman I imagined her to become. 21 She loved to make everybody laugh, usually by doing 21 Somehow she still gives me the strength to go on. 22 something ridiculously silly , and if she knew she could 22 She won’t get to meet my daughter, but I know she would 23 make you laugh the first time, she would never stop. 23 have been the most loving , incredible aunt and role 24 And if you didn’ t laugh, she would never stop trying 24 model. But my daughter will know her because we will 25 until she had you in the palm of her hand. 25 never stop keeping her alive and taking her with us

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1 wherever we go. 1 least we had it . We’re very grateful for that time. 2 Thank you. 2 Anything else you want to say?" 3 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. 3 "Another funny memory: I used to love coming home 4 MR GREANEY: Sir, I’m next going to ask Mr Wilson to play 4 because they would all run to the door whenever you came 5 the video presentation . 5 home and there would be a fight to get to the door and 6 "I ’m Chris, this is Pat and Anastasia. I ’m Andrew 6 for whoever got to greet you first , to say hi to 7 Roussos’ brother and Saffie -Rose Roussos’ uncle and I am 7 whatever was coming in, and obviously because we all 8 just here to say a few words about Saffie . 8 came home at different times because of working hours, 9 "We had the pleasure of all of us being together in 9 we ate at different times, but Saffie used to think it 10 this little house of ours. At this stage or at some 10 was her eating time every time someone sat down and she 11 stage we were nine of us in the house, was it ? We all 11 would buddy up to you and she’d be, like , hello , trying 12 lived to the. There was Andrew, Lisa, Ashlee, Xander 12 to eat your dinner again, for like the fourth sitting , 13 and Saffie , of course, and our two girls . Renee is not 13 with her hand usually ." 14 with us right now, she’s in the UK, that’s why she’s not 14 "I hope this gives some insight into what Saffie 15 in the video . 15 was, what she was to us, what she meant to us, and as 16 "I used to come home from work and Saffie used to 16 I repeat , in the few months that we had together here, 17 come round with my kids as well , going, ’Dad, dad, dad!’ 17 even though it was difficult , it was the best times of 18 Her dad was not me, she thought Dad was my name. Her 18 our lives , I think , that we had with Saffie , Andrew, 19 dad was daddy, so daddy was daddy and I was dad. That 19 Lisa , Ashlee, Xander, Renee and Anastasia, and of course 20 was my nickname from Saffie. 20 me and Pat -- and the dogs!" 21 "She was a bit of a character . She just wanted to 21 "To everyone who met her, she was someone special. 22 play all day and wanted to know things, wanted to do 22 She lit up the room. She had no fear , no scares . 23 things all the time. She sneaked into the bedroom of my 23 I remember we went to England to visit them and we 24 eldest daughter and drew pictures on the wall without 24 didn’ t have much time, so I said , ’Come on, let’s take 25 nobody realising . To this day they’ re still there . 25 Xander and Saffie and let ’s go round to Tesco.’ I said ,

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1 "Another memory is when they came over for the last 1 ’ I ’ ll let you buy whatever you want’, and she filled the 2 Christmas. We saw Saffie in Cyprus. We sort of sneaked 2 trolley up: can I have this , can I have that , can I have 3 Saffie into the car and told her mum we were going to 3 the other , Polly Pockets. As I say, she had no fear , it 4 our house for a sleepover , and off we went. I ’ ll let 4 was just joy . Just a happy child . Lovely child . 5 you tell the story , Pat, because you brought her home 5 Always wanted to do things . 6 in the car ." 6 "Later on, which my dad says he used to go to 7 "We just talked all the way home. Saffie was good 7 England and visit , and there used to be gymnastics, she 8 at that , chatting away, and we got home, put a DVD on, 8 used to do dancing. The last time we were here, 9 snuggled down, ready to settle in for the night , and 9 before -- we took the Mickey out of her saying -- she 10 10 minutes later her dad turns up to get here: no 10 was telling us she was going to see Ariana, and we were 11 sleepover with us only ; he liked the family all to be 11 saying , ’Who is she, we don’t know who she is ’, and she 12 together ." 12 would go crazy. 13 "At least we got that half an hour! We had a small 13 "So that’s it . We’re done. A thousand words are 14 sleepover . It was the one and only time we had her on 14 not enough to explain what Saffie meant to us. It ’s 15 her own. 15 goodbye from me and it’s goodbye from them." 16 "Lisa is a bit too stuck to her kids . I remember 16 "I ’m Saffie ’s godmother. I miss my beautiful girl 17 taking Xander one day and we sent her a picture of him 17 so much. One thing I remember about Saffie is that she 18 holding a beer bottle and she went crazy. 18 learned the word godmother in Greek, which is Nona, and 19 "But Saffie was something special . I think we’ve 19 kept calling me that every time. She was always very 20 all lost something really , really good. Who knows what 20 happy and full of energy. One thing I will never forget 21 she could have been? I think she could have been 21 is while I was baptizing her, she didn’ t scream or cry , 22 something spectacular . Amazing. Unfortunately , it was 22 instead she was telling me to put on her baptizing 23 not to be. But at least we had some times, some 23 outfit . 24 memories. I think we have just ... I don’t know how to 24 "She loved dancing and singing . She would always 25 say it . The time that we had was so precious and at 25 send me her videos . Her smile filled the room with

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1 happiness. I miss her so much and I love her so much." 1 she tried , she could dance, she really could. I miss 2 "I ’m Saffie ’s cousin . Saffie was a brilliant , 2 her so, so much, words can’t even describe it . 3 brilliant kid . I guess one thing I remember is that she 3 " It ’s not like any normal -- it ’s not a normal day 4 used to call me monkey. She came up with this nickname, 4 without Saffie . A normal day with Saffie would be 5 and she would always play with me and run around the 5 crazy , but now a normal day to us is just calm, and 6 house, she would hide, she was always full of energy, 6 I don’t like it , I really don’t . I have dreams of 7 she wants to go out and do stuff , so that ’s one thing 7 Saffie waiting for me at the school gate and wake up and 8 that -- it was Saffie ’s identity , she was always so 8 it isn ’ t real . I feel torn , I feel broken, and I just 9 playful . 9 miss her so, so much." 10 "One thing I remember, the only second that I left 10 "I just want to speak about Saff , an 8-year-old who 11 her to go and get some rest because she wouldn’t stop 11 had clearly , clearly been here a million times over. 12 playing , I went on the couch and I slept for like 12 The funniest , the best sense of humour out of any 13 10 minutes and then she came up, climbed the couch, and 13 8-year-old I ’ve ever met in my life . The biggest heart , 14 she woke me up like that , and she was like , ’Come on, 14 the laugh -- oh, you’ve never heard a laugh like her. 15 monkey, it ’s time to play again ’, and she was sucking 15 She wasn’t like a normal 8-year-old . She might have 16 her thumb. So even though at that time she was 5, 16 looked like one, but she definitely wasn’t a normal 17 I remember I couldn’t outsmart her. She was so smart. 17 8-year-old . She knew exactly what she wanted to do. 18 Even though I was 20 years older than her, I couldn’t 18 She knew where she wanted to go in life , she knew how 19 trick her, she’d always find a way to beat me in 19 she was going to do it , and nothing was going to stand 20 anything that we were doing at that moment. 20 in her way. 21 "I have met and I have seen many kids playing , but 21 "My daughter met Saffie at school and instantly they 22 everyone knows that Saffie had something really special . 22 were inseparable . They went for dinner with each other 23 Her smile , the way she talked to people, the way she 23 at each other ’s houses, they had sleepovers , many, many 24 approached people. She was very much sure for her age 24 sleepovers . They’d play their music too loud and you’d 25 and always she would like at you in a way that she would 25 tell them to stop it and they would just turn it up

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1 understand. If you were going through something, she 1 a bit more. 2 would come and ask you if you were okay. And it’s 2 "I don’t understand how she’s not here. I don’t 3 something you don’t expect from a 5-year -old little girl 3 understand how someone can just go, just disappear . The 4 at that time. And yeah, we miss her so much. We wish 4 roll -on effect it has on family , friends , even people 5 she was here with us." 5 that didn’ t even know each individual person who passed 6 "Hi, I ’m going to be talking about my best friend , 6 away. But for us, Saffie was our biggest challenge 7 Saffie . I took her to her first disco and she loved it , 7 we’ve ever , ever come across in our whole entire life , 8 but before the disco we gave each other facial tattoos 8 and I know for a fact that the day Saffie was gone, that 9 with red Sharpie , and it never came off, so we went to 9 was the day my daughter disappeared. 10 the school disco with big red blotches on our face . 10 "Not once have I ever seen something just disappear 11 "But when we went to her house we always used to 11 from her eyes . It was like the sparkle had gone out of 12 sing and play the drums in the chippy, and the first 12 her eyes . I didn’ t really understand it straightaway . 13 thing she’d say to me when we got in the car was, ’ I ’m 13 It was more: but she’s got a birthday party , mum, her 14 going to have a burger ’, and she goes, ’because that ’s 14 birthday is the week before mine, because we’ve got the 15 my favourite thing in the whole wide world .’ Then 15 invitation , we’re going to be going to the party , she 16 I ’d say, ’ I ’ ll have fish and chips because that ’s my 16 will be back by then, she’ ll be back by then. I don’t 17 favourite thing .’ So that was her favourite food. 17 think anyone’s ever tried to explain to another 18 "Our signature thing was when we were in bed and we 18 8-year-old child that it doesn’t work like that . 19 had hot chocolate . For sleepovers , hot chocolate was 19 "I remember picking my daughter up from school on 20 our thing . We loved it . 20 the day that everything was announced. And I walked 21 "Her favourite song was ’One Last Time’ by 21 into the school hallway and she just dropped to her 22 Ariana Grande and her favourite singer was 22 knees and she was uncontrollable . She couldn’t catch 23 Ariana Grande. 23 her breath, couldn’t get her words, couldn’t get her 24 "When she’s older, I reckon she would be a famous 24 words, couldn’t get her words, and all of a sudden it 25 dancer. I don’t know why, I could just tell . And when 25 just stopped, just stopped. There was nothing, she felt

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1 nothing. She didn’t want a cuddle. She was the most 1 " Saffie was special . She would put a smile on your 2 cuddliest person in the world, my daughter, and that 2 face without even trying . She would have grown up to 3 went. That went for a long time. 3 have been an intelligent girl who put others first with 4 "Having to be the strong person for your daughter 4 love and laughter ." 5 who’s just lost her best friend when deep down you can’t 5 " It ’s hard to talk about Saffie . It has taken 6 get to grips with it yourself , that will be the hardest 6 a long time to make this video . There’s so many things 7 thing that my daughter and myself and her father will 7 that you can talk about with Saffie . There’s also two 8 ever , ever go through in our whole entire life . 8 versions of Saffie . It ’s really hard to remember 9 "Every birthday that goes by, every anniversary that 9 because you remember all the happy times and then 10 goes by, every picture that gets put up in my daughter’s 10 obviously you remember all the bad times, so it ’s very 11 bedroom. Every couple of days there ’s something new, 11 hard to look back. 12 there ’s something here: mum, but Saffie loved this , that 12 "I first met Saffie coming into my shop and she had 13 was Saffie ’s favourite colour , can I buy it because 13 a phone to repair or something like that . Quite often 14 I would want to wear it , Saffie would have loved that , 14 I ’d fix her iPads and phones -- every week actually -- 15 mum. You keep going and keep going and keep going, but 15 and it seemed to become a regular thing . She also used 16 she still can’t accept it . 16 to play with my children , Lily especially , and she was 17 "One day my daughter came to me and said, ’Mum, 17 a regular in our house. It was routine that she’d come 18 I want to go to heaven, I want to go to heaven and I 18 to our house. My mum and dad were cooking fish and 19 want to be with her, I wish I went to the arena with 19 chips , and she’d go back at 8 o’clock and then there was 20 her, I would have got in the way and I would have pushed 20 the first stopover that she ever had was at our house. 21 her out of the way.’ It was like it was guilt . And 21 I felt very , very privileged and very protective , 22 every single day it ’s guilt . It ’s guilt , and there ’s 22 I suppose, of that little girl because obviously it was 23 never a single day that goes by that Saffie isn ’ t 23 my friend that said , ’This is the first time she’s ever 24 involved in our life at all . We’ve got pictures of her 24 stopped out .’ On that first night I think that ’s where 25 round the house, songs come on the radio, the radio gets 25 my real bond with Saffie came about.

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1 switched off , my daughter can’t process songs. I don’t 1 "I remember everybody fell asleep and Saffie knocked 2 know if she ever will . 2 on our bedroom door and she came in and she said, ’My 3 "We do still go to concerts . My daughter loves 3 mum and dad always give me a kiss and a cuddle before 4 concerts . Saffie loved concerts . Why should a child 4 I go to sleep ’, so we had to do the thing of giving her 5 not go to a concert? We’re not going to stop doing 5 a kiss , giving her a cuddle, which is very bizarre not 6 anything, nor would have Saff . Saff would have kept 6 being our child , but it also showed how much she trusted 7 going, of course she would have. She would have been at 7 us and how much she thought of us. That made me think 8 the next Ariana Grande concert that we went to. She’s 8 about her a lot more. 9 not allowed , she’s not here. 9 "After that , it was like she was one of the children 10 "She would have made the best, the best, entertainer 10 in this house. It was very bizarre , very bizarre , but 11 in the whole entire world. She loved to sing , she loved 11 she was lovely . Adorable. A pain in the arse , a very 12 to dance. She loved to get on the sofa at our house and 12 big pain in my arse. She would come running in at 13 jump from one corner to the other , from the other to the 13 4 o’clock every day, demanding to phone Lily off my 14 other , and I used to just look at them and think, ’You 14 phone, asking if she could come out to play . We called 15 are never, ever going to get that time back, enjoy it .’ 15 them The Trio at one point because they were all playing 16 "They’d leave a mess. They’d drop drinks . They’d 16 together all the time and it was amazing for my children 17 be 8-year - olds . They were 8. Saffie is 8. She should 17 because they didn’ t have anybody around this area that 18 never, ever have had to miss out on anything. Just like 18 they knew and vice versa , so they just played and 19 I ’m going to make sure that my daughter misses out on 19 played . 20 nothing." 20 "What do I think she could have been? I don’t know, 21 " Saffie was my best friend . When I had bad days at 21 I don’t know. An astronaut, brain surgeon, a nurse, 22 school she’d be there for me when I got home. Most 22 a housewife. Whatever she would have been, she would 23 nights we would sit at the TV and watch Pitch Perfect 23 have been amazing. She would have been -- she was very 24 together and then dance to our favourite bits until Lisa 24 competitive and she always wanted to do better than 25 shouted at us. 25 everybody else or show off , so I can imagine that her

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1 job or what she would have been, she’d have been the 1 also had a very special connection and bond with George, 2 best at. 2 so she spent most of the day with George going on all 3 "I really miss her presence and I think all this has 3 the rides , the faster the better . She dragged me on the 4 changed everything. She gave me love and looked at me 4 log flume and I could hear her laughing behind me as we 5 in a certain way that made me feel like somebody, and 5 all got soaked. I am so very grateful now for that day 6 I loved that back. 6 and will treasure those memories forever . 7 "She was just amazing. Yes. She wasn’t one of 7 " Saffie was intelligent , funny, caring and had so 8 these girls that come round and play with your kids and 8 much passion, determination and excitement about her. 9 you just think they’ re bloody annoying, she wasn’t one 9 We all knew that she was going to do great things in 10 of them kids, she was just funny, laughing all the time, 10 life . There is a huge hole in our lives now she has 11 used to like to wind me up. She knew that I was 11 gone and we miss her very much." 12 overprotective of her and scared that if she got 12 "I am George and I was a friend of Saffie ’s. Me, my 13 a graze, her daddy would tell me off and she knew that 13 mum and my sister spent a lot of weekends with Lisa , 14 I was scared of that fact , so she used to play on it and 14 Andrew, Xander, Ashlee and Saffie . A lot of memories 15 used to stand on top of a wall and wave at me, saying , 15 were made. Me and Xander would just be chilling out and 16 ’Mike, look, Mike, look ’, and give me a thousand heart 16 Saffie and my sister , Ava, who’s a similar age to her, 17 attacks , but that was Saffie . She was very sarcastic , 17 would just come in, teasing , making jokes, pranking all 18 very funny. She seemed to work out my level of how to 18 of them, and even at that point you could see Saffie ’s 19 scare the shit out of me." 19 adorability , charisma, her energy. She had so much 20 "Hi. My name is Sam and I’m a very close and dear 20 potential and she could have done whatever she wanted, 21 friend to Lisa and Andrew, who I have known for around 21 I think . Everyone who knew her would agree with me 22 25 years and I would like to share with you today some 22 there . 23 of my memories of Saffie -Rose. I have two children , 23 "My favourite memory with Saffie would have to be 24 George, 16, and Ava, 13, and we have spent many weekends 24 when we went to the fair one time. Me and Saffie 25 with Lisa , Andrew, Ashlee, Xander and Saffie , making 25 partnered up -- the two fearless ones, it was -- and we

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1 some wonderful memories together. 1 just went on every scary - looking ride there was. There 2 " Saffie , even from being a baby, was beautiful , 2 were times where I was more doubtful of a ride than 3 bubbly and had an infectious nature about her. 3 Saffie was. That’s a true representation of her 4 I remember those huge eyes, big smile , always laughing , 4 character : just fearless and just so energetic and how 5 and so content in the world. On the weekends we would 5 amazing she was. 6 visit , Saffie would be the first at the window waiting 6 "The world is a worse- off place without her and she 7 for us with her big smile . She was so full of 7 is dearly missed and her memory is so loved . I ’m sure 8 excitement: bouncing around, making dance routines up. 8 she’s looking down on her family and friends and she’s 9 She had so much confidence and energy and also gave the 9 proud of them and how strong they’ve been." 10 best cuddles . 10 "Hi. I ’m Chloe and I know Saffie from the chip shop 11 " Saffie would let me have her room whenever she 11 in Leyland. I was an employee, a babysitter , a teacher , 12 stayed . She would creep back in early in the morning. 12 all rolled into one. She was somebody that you cannot 13 I could hear that infectious giggle and when I opened my 13 put into words. She was cheeky, charming, confident -- 14 eyes , I would find her upside-down, challenging Ava to 14 a bit too confident sometimes with the fear factor was 15 handstands or practising gymnastics, which she 15 zero . There’s a lamp post and anyone in Leyland that 16 absolutely loved . Saffie knew who she was and what she 16 knows the lamp post outside the chip show will know she 17 wanted and had so much determination. I remember Lisa 17 used to make it to the top regularly and slide back 18 would leave clothes out for her in the morning to wear, 18 down. I had my heart in my mouth a few times. We would 19 which Saffie would completely ignore and bounce into the 19 go to the park and Saffie would be the one that wanted 20 room in a completely different random and mismatched 20 to go on the highest swing and the thing where you 21 outfit . We’d just roll our eyes and laugh. Lisa would 21 dangle with one hand or something, and you’d get Xander, 22 know she wouldn’t win this argument. 22 the complete opposite , who wanted to take it easy and 23 "Our final memories of Saffie were a few weeks 23 stick to the safe side , but he always looked after her. 24 before the attack and we decided to go to the fair . 24 "She was somebody that I would hope would have been 25 Saffie was fearless and wanted to go on everything . She 25 in my life forever . I think about her every day. Not

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1 a day goes by ... One thing that I wish I could have had 1 the reception class Saffie got on with everyone, but had 2 was Saffie to be able to come to my wedding day. 2 a small select group of friends . She had one in 3 I always imagine now Saffie being a bridesmaid or 3 particular called Imogen, and they were thick as 4 something, maybe like aged 18, and it ’d be, I don’t 4 thieves , playing together and most importantly having 5 know, probably her first bridesmaid go. But she will 5 fun .’ 6 always be there even though she’s not there . 6 "’ Saffie loved outdoor learning and this was a great 7 "I struggle to talk about what happened. I struggle 7 passion of hers in her formative years . When asked what 8 to look at any news posts, talk to people about it , look 8 she wanted to learn about, Saffie wanted to learn about 9 at photos. I don’t mind thinking about it now, because 9 flowers as she found them both interesting and 10 before I couldn’t even think , I had to try and shut it 10 beautiful . She showed great curiosity in her learning , 11 off all the time. It affected a few of my relationships 11 especially watching caterpillars turn into butterflies 12 and just general life , really . I have got a tattoo 12 and a lesson where her teacher made it snow in the 13 which I got for Saffie on the back of my neck, so I ’m 13 classroom by banging a balloon on the ceiling , resulting 14 proud when people ask about that, I ’m proud to tell them 14 in Saffie playing happily in the snow. 15 who she is and what it ’s for . That will always be with 15 "’She would also spend many hours across the year 16 me forever . 16 in the craft area as she had an incredible imagination , 17 "She was something else . I ’ ll never forget : I ’ve 17 when designing and making things, as well as being 18 never known a little girl be able to eat a full fish all 18 a very talented drawer. Saffie really came alive when 19 on her own at age 4 or 5, with a tub of curry sauce and 19 she could dress up and role play as well as when there 20 still be sniffing round for yours after . It ’s food, 20 was any music involved . At the Christmas disco the 21 I mean there’s certain foods that I eat now and they 21 quiet little girl became confident whilst dancing and 22 remind me of Saffie , like pesto, pesto and chicken 22 singing and having a thoroughly good time putting 23 pasta. Fish and chips reminds me of everybody. Yogurt 23 a smile on everybody’s face . 24 remind me of Saffie . When I have a yogurt, I always 24 "’ In other classes teachers reported that Saffie 25 imagine getting a yogurt out of the fridge and looking 25 continued to enjoy dressing up and role play , always

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1 down when I’m taking the lid off and seeing her little 1 enjoying putting on a costume in the Annual World Book 2 face underneath. 2 Day. On one occasion the class travelled to Salford to 3 " If you knew Saffie , you were blessed . I ’ ll never 3 the BBC Studios to participate in a show, CBeebies 4 forget her, ever . She made a part of me that will never 4 Swashbuckle. Saffie loved every minute of this , 5 disappear . She was the un- biological little sister and 5 arriving at school early to go on the trip . 6 everybody that meets me will know about Saffie . 6 "’ Saffie was again quiet in class but came alive on 7 "Bye-bye. Love you, Saffie ." 7 the playground, with her friends acting out scenarios , 8 "My name is Chris Upton and I’m the headteacher of 8 dancing and singing . Saffie had a long plait in her 9 Tarleton Community Primary School in Lancashire. I also 9 hair and the class would see each day whether or not it 10 had the privilege of being the headteacher of 10 had grown enough for her to be able to sit on it . This 11 Saffie -Rose Roussos, the youngest victim in the 11 was done in a playful manner and Saffie would sit 12 Manchester Arena attacks. The following statement aims 12 quietly , taking it all in . Clearly the other children 13 to reflect the life of Saffie -Rose Roussos as a learner 13 thought the world of her .’ 14 and a member of our school community, as well as 14 " Saffie then left Kew Woods Primary School, joining 15 reflecting what her future could have been in line with 15 our school , Tarleton Community Primary. The school is 16 her friends and other children within our community. 16 part of a close - knit community in a small village in 17 "As Saffie joined our school in Year 2, I have also 17 Lancashire . Saffie and her brother Xander settled in 18 spoken to Saffie ’s teachers at her previous school , 18 well and she was again highly thought of by everyone. 19 Kew Woods Primary School in Southport, to reflect her 19 " Saffie ’s teacher reflects that Saffie was 20 younger school years . Saffie is fondly remembered by 20 a beautiful little girl , both inside and out. She was 21 the Kew Woods staff, with one teacher describing her as: 21 extremely well - liked by her classmates and always had 22 "’A lovely , quiet member of the class . Saffie would 22 a kind word and a smile for everyone. 23 sit near the back of the class trying not to get picked 23 "She was an exceptionally gentle and caring child 24 to answer questions and preferred working with her 24 and would go the extra mile to make sure her friends 25 friends rather than the adult - led activities . Within 25 were happy. On one occasion two of her best friends

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1 were arguing on the playground and Saffie was trying to 1 regularly see those children walking past. Saffie 2 get them to stop. They wouldn’t listen to her, so in 2 should have been and would have been there proudly 3 the end she did the splits in the mud. All three of 3 wearing her blazer . 4 them fell about laughing and immediately the argument 4 "At Christmas, my deputy and I popped into the café 5 was forgotten . 5 at Booth’s supermarket between various Christmas plays . 6 "During a gym lesson Saffie reluctantly agreed to 6 As we walked in, we were warmly greeted by the academy 7 let her teacher film her performing a sequence that she 7 choir , which was filled with Saffie ’s friends excitingly 8 had created. Even though she told her that the sequence 8 telling us about their first term. Saffie should have 9 was fantastic , she wasn’t one for showing-off at school 9 been and would have been there. 10 and was much happier celebrating the achievements of 10 "We have close contact with our former pupils , such 11 others . She performed the sequence to perfection and 11 is the nature of our school , and it would have been 12 a look of relief spread across her face as the class 12 likely that Saffie would have been a young sport leader , 13 cheered and applauded. It was then her teacher realised 13 helping out at sporting events that are held across the 14 she hadn’t switched the camera on. Most children would 14 local primary schools . 15 have politely refused to perform again but not Saffie , 15 "Each year there is a show hosted by 16 delivering yet again another perfect performance. 16 Tarleton Academy in which every school from the cluster 17 "That’s the kind of person Saffie was: kind, 17 performs with the academy pupils acting as role models. 18 generous, caring , always thinking about others and 18 I am sure we would have seen Saffie there too. She may 19 modest to a fault . 19 well have nervously come to see me as a Year 10 pupil to 20 "Her teacher will never forget Saffie ’s excitement 20 ask me if she could do her work experience with us. I , 21 when we returned to school after the Christmas holidays 21 of course, would have said yes . 22 and she stood in front of her classmates telling them 22 "And beyond that, Saffie could have been anything 23 all about the concert tickets she had been given as 23 she wanted to be career -wise. She was talented and 24 a Christmas gift . Saffie was so excited and the envy of 24 driven with a wonderful family behind her. She was 25 all her friends . They could not believe that she had 25 curious about the world and kind, two lovely qualities ,

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1 tickets to see their idol , Ariana Grande. 1 to do something wonderful and continue to be a fantastic 2 "She was so excited and filled with hope for the 2 human being." 3 future , just like all the children should be. Saffie 3 "Hi, my name is Lisa Roussos, the proud mummy of 4 loved creative subjects such as music and art and often 4 beautiful Saffie -Rose. Saffie as a little girl was 5 could be found making pictures and cards for her 5 gentle and shy yet at the same time she loved to be 6 friends , teachers and family . These were always 6 around people, especially friends and family . She was 7 accompanied by loving messages and kind words; she just 7 a very helpful and pleasing little girl , who loved to 8 wanted to make people happy. 8 dance and make people laugh. 9 " Saffie ’s capacity for hard work and determination 9 " Saffie at school . I remember taking Saffie to 10 to succeed was most evident to her teacher in her bid to 10 school on her first day. She was very excited now that 11 become elected to our school council . Most children 11 she could go to school with her brother , Xander. I left 12 used a computer to create their campaign posters but not 12 her at school playing happily as I walked away in tears . 13 Saffie . She drew and coloured her posters by hand and 13 Later that day, as I walked to pick her up, her teacher 14 must have spent hours writing out stickers for her 14 spoke to me and informed me that Saffie had been playing 15 supporters to wear. Her teacher discovered a whole roll 15 dress -up and had lost a shoe. They had looked 16 of them in her tray weeks later , each one carefully 16 everywhere but couldn’t find it , so she came in with one 17 handwritten and colourfully decorated. Thankfully she 17 shoe. Saffie found it very funny. 18 got her wish and was able to spend many happy months 18 "As Saffie grew, she became more confident and 19 serving on our school council . Saffie was incredibly 19 outgoing. She remained very gentle and helpful , always 20 hard-working and always tried her best no matter what. 20 giving us cuddles and leaving little notes of ’ I love 21 "The future. Saffie was a kind, friendly and most 21 you’ everywhere. She looked up to big sister , Ashlee, 22 talented little girl . It may sound like a cliché , but 22 and absolutely adored Xander. Once Xander had 23 the world really was her oyster . Her friends left our 23 a sleepover at his friend Oliver ’s house and after we 24 school in July 2019, moving up to Tarleton Academy, 24 dropped him off , she cried all the way home. 25 which is approximately half a mile away, and we 25 "She was a sensitive soul who loved and gave

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1 generously . She had a way with people, she could engage 1 an understatement. Saffie completed our family and was 2 with them whoever they were. She could and would talk 2 a huge part of it , the leader of it , you might say, 3 to people and have their complete attention , all the 3 always taking centre stage with her beautiful smile . 4 time being her gentle , funny self , almost animated. She 4 "The day I woke up from the coma, Andrew held my 5 had this amazing, magnetic personality that drew people 5 hand and looked up at me. I instantly knew. ’ Saffie 6 to her of all ages and I would just watch with wonder. 6 has gone, hasn’t she?’ and he replied , ’Yes’. I cried 7 "I remember being in Croatia on holiday and we were 7 and begged and pleaded with him to let me die too. 8 staying on a local resort . We had a meal in the busy 8 ’ I can look after her ’, I cried . 9 restaurant and Saffie wanted dessert . We looked over at 9 "I did die that day. Inside I ’m dead. My heart is 10 the dessert table and there was a long queue. Saffie 10 so heavy, it weighs me down. I’ve still got my part to 11 stood up and walked to the front of the queue. She 11 play in my family. I ’m a wife and a mother and I have 12 looked up at the man behind her and gave him the biggest 12 to be there for Andrew, Ashlee and Xander. When my 13 smile . He returned her smile with first a smile and 13 children are grown and have their own families and 14 then a laugh. Other people in the line began to laugh 14 I have fulfilled my role as a mother, I ’ ll be with my 15 too. Saffie had an infectious smile that she would 15 little Saffie again. 16 share often . She was a beautiful soul , one I had never 16 "I ’m so desperate to hold her close and smell her 17 known before. 17 hair and to feel her cheek on mine. My precious baby 18 "She was special and I understood this the moment 18 girl ." 19 she was born. Saffie ’s school has a heritage plaque for 19 ANDREW ROUSSOS: Sir, could I just say something before 20 her and a stage . Her teacher asked me for three words 20 I finish ? 21 to describe her. How do you find three words to 21 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Of course. 22 describe somebody like Saffie ? It ’s impossible . 22 ANDREW ROUSSOS: I just feel I need to say a couple of 23 "You had to meet her to know who she was. She was 23 words. 24 8 years old , yet she felt empathy and pain for others . 24 Sir , with the highest respect , I feel I need to say 25 She was clever and imaginative , she was bright and 25 this . What we’re all going through, the failures we are

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1 beautiful , funny and kind. She was enthusiastic about 1 all listening to and the excuses we will all sit through 2 everything . She lit up any room and was so very 2 needs to stop. Enough is enough, sir . At present in 3 precious . We settled in the end for ’ beautiful ’, 3 2020, if we are still learning lessons , then nothing 4 ’ captivating ’ and ’kind ’, with contributions from her 4 will ever change. 5 friends . 5 The biggest lesson and wake-up call should have come 6 " Saffie was a very energetic little girl who loved 6 from 7/7 and 9/11. Saffie ’s life is not a practice 7 dancing and gymnastics. She was a natural gymnast and 7 exercise for the security services or the emergency 8 would constantly be doing different routines . She was 8 services . Lessons should have already been learned and 9 very active and would always be riding her bike or her 9 in place . 10 scooter or doing 200 jumps on her pogo stick . More than 10 Sir , with the greatest respect , thank you. 11 once we caught her climbing up the telegraph pole 11 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. 12 outside the shop. 12 It ’s very difficult to say anything after those 13 " Saffie found joy in everything that she did . She 13 tributes . But can I say, thank you to Andrew and Ashlee 14 didn’ t like people being sad and would do her best to 14 for reading them, those moving tributes , and to all 15 make everyone laugh with success . She loved school and 15 those on the video who have given equally moving 16 her friends , she loved her family and she loved to 16 tributes . 17 entertain and make people smile. She was a pure, 17 Andrew, you described Saffie as your star , and from 18 gentle , beautiful soul who touched people’s hearts with 18 all we have heard, you were right to describe her 19 her kindness and infected people with her smile . She 19 in that way: she was a star . Her death and the manner 20 would never walk past a homeless person without giving 20 of it has been and still is devastating to her family 21 them money and a smile. It was just her way. She would 21 and friends , and we do understand that. Her star will 22 smile at strangers and they would smile back. The world 22 continue to live in your hearts . For the rest of us, 23 was a joyous and happy place for Saffie with so much to 23 the star that was Saffie has stopped and we are all the 24 offer and in turn she had so much to offer the world. 24 losers for it . 25 "To say our lives now are completely devastated is 25 Mr Greaney.

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1 MR GREANEY: Sir, would you now, please, rise, and we will 1 in contact with a friend called Joanne and asked if she 2 return to the hearing room at 1 pm? 2 would like to come along with me. She declined as she 3 (12.11 pm) 3 was not into music that much, but I wondered if she knew 4 (A short break) 4 anyone who might want to come along with me as I had the 5 (1.00 pm) 5 spare ticket . Joanne mentioned this to her friend , 6 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Mr Greaney. 6 Laura, who was a work colleague of Elaine ’s. Elaine was 7 MR GREANEY: Sir, thank you. 7 single and also had a love of music. Between them they 8 This is the pen portrait of Elaine McIver prepared 8 thought it would be good to introduce Elaine and I , not 9 by her partner , Paul Price . Paul is present in the 9 just to go to the concert but also because we were both 10 hearing room alongside me, along with Jo Doyle, a family 10 single and shared that interest in music. 11 friend , and Jo’s husband, Charlie . 11 "Laura mentioned the show to Elaine and Elaine 12 Jo worked alongside Elaine as a police officer and 12 agreed to go. I thought it would be good if we met up 13 had known her for 17 years and she will read Paul’s 13 and introduced ourselves before the concert . We 14 tribute to Elaine . In the background, as she does so, 14 arranged to meet at Liverpool One for a coffee late one 15 a collage of photographs will play . 15 afternoon. I am from Liverpool and I just presumed that 16 Sir , at this stage I ’m going to invite Jo to stand 16 Elaine was also from Liverpool . I knew that Elaine was 17 when she’s ready and, before she starts to read the 17 a serving police officer so I just assumed that she 18 statement, I ’ ll ask Mr Wilson to please start the 18 worked for Merseyside Police . I had no idea how the 19 collage of photographs. 19 date was going to go, so once the date and time were set 20 Pen portrait of ELAINE McIVER 20 up, I arranged to go from the coffee shop on to a yoga 21 JO DOYLE: I am lucky enough to say that Elaine was my best 21 session just in case the date wasn’t going too well and 22 friend . The words that I ’m about to read, though, are 22 I had a get-out clause . 23 not mine. They are from Elaine ’s partner , Paul Price . 23 "Elaine and I met at Starbucks for coffee and we got 24 They are all his words and it is clear that they come 24 along just great , but I had the yoga session booked so 25 from the heart . I only hope that I can do them justice , 25 I told her I only had an hour before I had to make my

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1 for Paul and for Elaine . Paul’s words are as follows : 1 way to the session . Unbeknown to me, Elaine had driven 2 "These are the hardest and most heartbreaking words 2 from Warrington to meet me. I only found that out 3 I will ever write . I know that words will never be 3 during the concert , but when I found out I felt awful. 4 enough to convey my feelings . Quite simply, there are 4 I now know that Elaine was not best pleased about it 5 no words. So this is the pen portrait for my partner, 5 either . 6 the love of my life , Elaine McIver, who was murdered 6 "When I first met Elaine, I really liked her. She 7 during a terrorist attack on Monday, 22 May 2017 at the 7 had a lovely , pretty face and a great personality too. 8 Manchester Evening News Arena. I was also seriously 8 We got on really well during the coffee date and I was 9 injured during the attack and I am still recovering from 9 a bit annoyed with myself that I ’d actually booked the 10 my injuries . 10 yoga session and could only stay for the hour, 11 "This statement is intended to paint a picture of 11 especially when I found out that Elaine had travelled 12 Elaine , show what type of person she was, how we met, 12 from Warrington. I lived only a few miles outside 13 the life we had together and the future we had planned. 13 Liverpool city centre so I didn’ t have far to go home 14 "Elaine and I met in 2014, through mutual friends on 14 and I just presumed Elaine was the same. 15 a blind date. I have previously been married and have 15 "I can’t remember the exact date I first met Elaine, 16 two children , Miles and Gabrielle . Elaine hadn’t been 16 I ’m rubbish with dates because I keep everything in 17 married and didn’t have any children from previous 17 a diary , so I don’t really need to remember, but Elaine 18 relationships . We came together because of our love of 18 would know the date: she had a fantastic memory and 19 music. I love music and love going to concerts . If 19 retained lots of detail . I can only assume that the 20 there was a concert I fancied going to, I would often 20 concert was in or around October 2014 and I recall that 21 buy two tickets in advance in the hope that by the time 21 we would have initially met maybe 2 weeks before the 22 the show came around I had met somebody and we could go 22 show. 23 together . 23 "After the first coffee we went on to speak a few 24 "I had bought two tickets to see the Human League 24 times on the telephone and arranged to meet up and have 25 and, as the date for the concert was approaching, I was 25 a meal on the night of the concert at a restaurant

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1 nearby on Hope Street. This was the second time I ’d met 1 exactly the same views. However, no sooner had we had 2 Elaine . I don’t recall the name of the restaurant but 2 that conversation , we both started to think some more 3 it was just around the corner from the Philharmonic Hall 3 about it . I remember Elaine asking me if I would like 4 where the concert was being performed. On that evening 4 to move in with her as it was silly for us both to have 5 Elaine picked me up in her car . The meal was excellent , 5 a house with the costs and live quite a distance away 6 the meal was lovely . There was no awkwardness and 6 from each other . We might as well live together , and 7 I just felt at ease being in her company. As we spoke 7 I agreed. 8 we realised that we both shared so much in common. We 8 "So around March/April of the following year , 2015, 9 both shared a love of music and enjoyed going to 9 I moved in with Elaine . I must admit when I first moved 10 concerts . The conversations just flowed . The show was 10 in with Elaine , I struggled to live in Frodsham. I ’m 11 great and all in all it was a lovely , enjoyable evening. 11 from Liverpool , a big city . All my family and friends 12 "After the concert we spoke on the telephone many 12 live there , my work was there too. To me, Frodsham was 13 times. I ’d purchased two tickets for another show to 13 in the middle of nowhere and I used to tell Elaine that . 14 see The Who at the Echo Arena; again Elaine accompanied 14 She used to laugh, she would say it wasn’t, but Elaine 15 me. We had another lovely evening and we went for 15 had lived there for several years so she was used to 16 a meal at East is East before the show. After the 16 driving everywhere. To me, just crossing the 17 concert , we went to a bar in the Albert Dock. 17 Runcorn-Widnes bridge was a nightmare and outside of my 18 I remember being in the bar looking at Elaine and 18 comfort zone initially . 19 thinking , you look beautiful , and before I could think , 19 "When I first moved to Frodsham I didn’t know 20 I said it out loud, which is so unlike me. It was while 20 anyone, I didn’ t know any of the neighbours and it was 21 in the bar I knew that I was very much falling in love 21 initially a struggle , a significant change and 22 with her. Later in our relationship , Elaine mentioned 22 everything was so unfamiliar . There was even a time 23 it to me and said that it meant a lot to her. 23 when I thought for a few weeks that I didn’ t want to be 24 "By now I knew that Elaine wasn’t from Liverpool , 24 living in Frodsham as I missed Liverpool and my family 25 and she didn’ t work for Merseyside Police . She was 25 and friends .

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1 a police officer but she worked for Cheshire Police . 1 "However, I knew that I wanted to be with Elaine and 2 Elaine lived by herself in Frodsham and she invited me 2 this was the whole reason I was there . After a few 3 over to her house the following weekend and cooked 3 weeks, I settled in and enjoyed living with Elaine in 4 a meal for us both. Shortly afterwards we both started 4 Frodsham. I made friends and became familiar with the 5 seeing each other regularly . She would come to my 5 life outside of Liverpool . 6 house -- I was living with my mum and dad at their house 6 "Our love of music is what first brought Elaine and 7 at the time -- and in turn I would visit her at home, 7 I together . During our time together we enjoyed going 8 and this went on for about two or three months. 8 to lots of concerts . Some evenings Elaine and I would 9 "During our conversations , we both established that 9 just sit on the sofa and listen to music all night . 10 we were very alike and had quite a lot in common. We 10 Even though we both loved music, Elaine liked some types 11 had both been emotionally hurt in past relationships and 11 of music that I didn’ t and vice versa , but we’d happily 12 although we were both looking for somebody to settle 12 listen to each other ’s choice of music even if it wasn’t 13 down with, we were both reluctant and were very much 13 to our taste . 14 afraid as we didn’t want to be hurt again. 14 "Elaine and I enjoyed going on weekends away. She 15 "Although I was living back with my parents, I was 15 would plan everything . Sometimes we would go and visit 16 also in a position to buy a property in my name. I was 16 Elaine ’s best friend , Jo, who lived in Norfolk , and stay 17 looking for an apartment or something similar in 17 over at her house for a couple of days. Jo used to work 18 Liverpool . I initially thought that I wasn’t ready to 18 with Elaine earlier in their careers for Cheshire Police 19 live with somebody; I was simply looking for 19 and they’d known each other for years . Jo has since 20 companionship, someone who I could spend time with, stay 20 moved to a different force and has a young son called 21 over at each other ’s houses, and go on holiday together , 21 Ollie . Elaine is Ollie ’s godmother. 22 but at the same time be separate and have our own 22 "Elaine wasn’t a fan of gardening or that kind of 23 properties . 23 thing , but if it needed doing we would spend the weekend 24 "I had a conversation with Elaine and told her what 24 doing it together as we enjoyed having a lovely garden 25 my thoughts were. Elaine agreed and said she had 25 but not necessarily the gardening.

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1 "Elaine had a big circle of friends , she had friends 1 her. 2 from college , work, and also from the Frodsham area. 2 " If Gabrielle was coming over to spend time with me, 3 She was very well thought of and liked by all . She had 3 Elaine was prepared to make herself busy and keep out of 4 a warm and friendly personality . One of Elaine ’s 4 the way if that was what I wanted, but she was also 5 friends , Karen, moved to Frodsham after Elaine did so 5 happy to spend time with Gabrielle as she also wanted to 6 they could be close together . If Elaine and I ever went 6 have a relationship with her and get to know her and so 7 out around Frodsham everyone used to stop and chat with 7 we’d often spend time together playing board games or 8 her and I was continually saying , ’Who’s that?’ Elaine 8 whatever Gabrielle wanted. 9 knew so many people from work, she would stop and talk 9 "In the year leading up to Elaine ’s death, Elaine 10 to everybody. That was what I loved about her. 10 and Gabrielle were getting along so well . Gabrielle was 11 "Elaine is originally from Ellesmere Port and she 11 asking Elaine about things such as hair , make-up and 12 moved to Frodsham from there when she got her job with 12 nails , the sort of things I knew nothing about and 13 Cheshire Police . Elaine ’s family still reside in 13 something that Elaine was interested in too, and they 14 Ellesmere Port and she would visit her parents regularly 14 were getting along brilliantly . 15 each week and, on occasion, visit her sister and two 15 "We all went away at Easter 2017 to North Wales, 16 nieces . 16 saying in a caravan and we took Gabrielle ’s best friend , 17 "Elaine and I spent many weekends away together, 17 Macie, with us. It was a Haven holiday and I ’d been 18 visiting the Lake District , and to London for my 18 there before so I knew what it was like and I decided to 19 birthday and concerts . We loved travelling but equally 19 book the platinum package as it ’s a little nicer and 20 loved spending our weekends together, snuggled up on the 20 away from the hustle and bustle . I didn’ t tell Elaine 21 couch. We couldn’t have been happier. 21 and I know she was thinking it was a Haven holiday in 22 "During our time together , we had two holidays 22 Wales at Easter half -term and we’re taking two teenage 23 abroad. I remember saying to Elaine before our first 23 girls . Not her idea of a holiday , but she went with it 24 holiday to Tenerife that it was going to be the best 24 because she knew that I ’d love it and it would be a nice 25 holiday ever . I just couldn’t wait and was very 25 break for us all .

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1 excited . Although I very much hoped it would be the 1 "Elaine told me after the holiday that when we 2 best holiday , I guess deep down I didn’ t believe that 2 pulled up at the reception and there were loads of kids 3 it would be, but it turned out to be just that . 3 running everywhere, she was sat in the car thinking to 4 Everything about that holiday was just perfect . We were 4 herself : oh God, I ’ve got a week here, I ’ ll just have to 5 so in love and looking back, it was so perfect , it 5 put up with it . But as we drove past all the other 6 almost doesn’t seem real now. 6 caravans parked a few feet from each other and ended up 7 "I told Elaine when which first met that I had two 7 in a beautiful gated area with lovely accommodation 8 children , Miles and Gabrielle . She was not phased and 8 overlooking the countryside , she had a massive sigh of 9 was happy as she loved children , but by her own 9 relief . The holiday was brilliant and everyone got on 10 admission, she couldn’t eat a whole one. Elaine 10 so well . It was just what I wanted. 11 probably met Miles before she met Gabrielle and this 11 "Elaine was such an amazing person, always putting 12 would have been before I moved in with Elaine . Miles 12 others before herself and I wanted her and Gabrielle to 13 was at Keele University and we drove to him and took him 13 get along so much. Elaine had the top of her ear 14 out for a meal. Elaine and Miles got on excellently . 14 pierced and Gabrielle was interested in it , asking her 15 "When Elaine first met Gabrielle , Gabrielle was 15 about it . Gabrielle has decided to get that same 16 a bit reserved at first . The past 9 years had just been 16 piercing now that Elaine has passed away. She wanted to 17 Gabrielle and I , and now there was this other person in 17 get it done for Elaine ’s funeral but because of where 18 our lives when we were together. Although Gabrielle 18 the piercing is , she can’t have it done until she’s 19 never said anything, she probably felt that her nose was 19 16 years old . 20 being pushed out a little bit by this other person in my 20 "The impact Elaine had on my parents was incredible . 21 life . Elaine met Gabrielle when she was about 10 or 21 Elaine was very much a hug type of person, which is the 22 11 years of age. Elaine took to having Gabrielle as 22 complete opposite of what my dad is. He has never been 23 part of her family and bonded with her very well . She 23 a hugger, but when he met Elaine, whether he wanted 24 eased herself in and was conscious that Gabrielle had 24 a hug or not, he was getting one. When I look back, 25 her mum and Elaine didn’t want to impose or overpower 25 I think before I met Elaine I had only ever hugged my

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1 dad once. Elaine changed that. 1 circumstances until my children had grown up. Widnes 2 "My mum, who has recently passed away, had dementia. 2 was closer to Liverpool and suited us for family and 3 The impact Elaine had on my mum was massive. My mum 3 work commitments. 4 would change when Elaine was in the room. Elaine would 4 "Elaine and I both wanted to live by the sea 5 talk to her, she would take her out for the day, take 5 eventually , so when the time was right , we thought we’d 6 her for coffee or to the local garden centre . They both 6 look to buy somewhere else, either on the Wirral or 7 loved her and she was like the daughter they never had. 7 towards Southport, Crosby way, somewhere preferably with 8 "I remember one time my mum asking Elaine’s mum, 8 a sea view, but for the time being we were looking to 9 Pat, if they could have Elaine as their daughter too. 9 move to Widnes. 10 Pat said she could be an honorary mum provided they 10 "When I said we were looking , obviously I mean 11 could have me as a son too. I think both our parents 11 Elaine was looking . She was a very organised person in 12 could see just how happy we were now that we had found 12 all aspects and when she decided she was going to do 13 each other . 13 something, that was it , it was planned and done. She 14 "Elaine had a lovely personality . She was always 14 was always looking at potential houses in Widnes. 15 sorting things out for everyone or helping them. It was 15 Eventually , she found one she loved and when she showed 16 like her job was to make other people happy. If there 16 it to me, well , I was blown away. It was lovely , but 17 was an occasion, a get- together or a party to plan, 17 I thought it was too expensive for us to buy, but Elaine 18 Elaine would sort it out. That was her thing . Plus she 18 had her heart set on it . We did our maths, and with the 19 was very good at it . She always had lots of ideas to 19 sale of Elaine ’s house, some savings I had, and some 20 make things extra special . 20 money from my dad, we could afford our dream home 21 "Elaine had a close circle of girlfriends and they 21 together . 22 would all get away together every so often . Elaine 22 "Then our plans changed from Widnes just being 23 would organise everything and plan it and book it . She 23 a stopgap to it being our forever home. We put in an 24 enjoyed organising . 24 offer for the house, which was declined , and we were 25 "Elaine did everything for me too, and she took me 25 told someone else was looking at it , and then we had the

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1 under her wing. She was very thoughtful and bought the 1 mind games and the stress of trying to buy it . I would 2 most thoughtful amazing gifts , not necessarily the most 2 say to Elaine , ’Even if we don’t buy this house, as long 3 expensive ones but Elaine always put a lot of thought 3 as we are together we will be happy, we’ ll just be in 4 and effort into them, always choosing something just 4 a different house.’ 5 perfect . She was great at picking up on things and 5 "Purchasing the house became an obsession. We 6 everything she ever bought me was a wow present. 6 wanted it so much. In the spring of that year we ended 7 "I was 50 years old in June 2017 and Elaine had 7 up just putting in an offer for the asking price . It 8 planned a nice gift for my birthday. She was going to 8 was accepted. We had someone who wanted to buy the 9 buy me a personalised registration plate . The September 9 Frodsham house and we were just so happy. Everything 10 registration plate was a 67, which was the year I was 10 was just coming together nicely and it was everything 11 born, so Elaine spoke about finding a registration 11 that Elaine and I wanted and we couldn’t wait to start 12 personal to me. Starting with PP67, the remainder of 12 our new life together in our new dream home. 13 the registration was going to be decided by Elaine . 13 "We couldn’t stop talking about our new house and 14 Maybe something to do with Liverpool, LFC or the Kop or 14 our new future together , what we were going to do, how 15 perhaps a band name. Elaine was going to sort all that 15 we were going to have the house, with the spare room for 16 out. However, it never happened and now I’ ll never know 16 people to stay over, a room for my children if they came 17 what she had lined up for me. 17 to visit and stay . Elaine and I even had our rooms in 18 "As our relationship developed and deepened, the 18 the new house: she had her make-up room with a walk-in 19 conversation turned to moving house and buying 19 wardrobe and I had a music room in which to keep my huge 20 a property together . We were both so excited at this 20 vinyl collection and music memorabilia. We talked about 21 prospect and in no time Elaine had decided to advertise 21 our future together continuously . It was everything we 22 her house for sale and we began looking for our dream 22 both wanted and we couldn’t have been happier. 23 home together. After taking all factors into account, 23 "My daughter Gabrielle is a massive fan of 24 we finally decided on buying a property in Widnes. It 24 Ariana Grande and I took Gabrielle to see her in 2015. 25 made complete sense to us both and suited our 25 That time, I got Gabrielle meet-and-greet tickets .

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1 I knew that she was touring again in 2017, so I got two 1 Because of the loss of Elaine , I can’t even start to 2 tickets for Gabrielle as a Christmas present . Gabrielle 2 think about me and my injuries . Words can’t even begin 3 decided to take her good friend Macie to the concert . 3 to describe how devastated I am. My whole world has 4 On the night of the show, the plan was to take the girls 4 been turned upside down. Elaine and I had both just 5 to the arena, drop them off, then Elaine and I would 5 found each other , the love of our lives , after years of 6 have an evening in Manchester while the girls were at 6 heartache and being alone, and now we had our whole 7 the concert and, once it finished , we’d pick them up and 7 future to look forward to. All we did was make plans 8 take them home again. 8 for our future . We’d planned to move to our new house 9 "On the morning of Monday, 22 May 2017, I dropped 9 that year in the summer of 2017, Elaine was going to 10 Elaine off at work. As I was going to be picking her 10 retire at 55 years of age, after working 30 years for 11 straight up from work it was more convenient to do so. 11 Cheshire Police , and we were going to do everything that 12 That afternoon, I collected Gabrielle and her friend , 12 we’d planned and always wanted to do. 13 Macie, from Liverpool and drove to Warrington to collect 13 "We spoke about travelling , maybe spending a few 14 Elaine from her place of work. We all went into 14 months of the year in Spain during the winter . Elaine 15 Manchester and I parked the car up. 15 wanted to visit Australia and New Zealand and I wanted 16 "We took the girls to the arena and made sure that 16 to take her to see Israel and show her where I used to 17 they got in there safely . Once we got in the arena, 17 live . We wanted to see America and Canada. The list 18 we’d planned to get Gabrielle a T- shirt before she went 18 was endless . We wanted to do so much. She was 19 into the concert , but it was just too busy by the 19 everything to me. No one has ever truly understood me 20 merchandise stall , so I told her that I would pick one 20 or known me like Elaine . 21 up for her when I collected her later . 21 "For the first and only time in my life , I was able 22 "I remember it being a beautiful evening and once 22 to be me. I think everyone puts on different faces with 23 the girls were safely inside the arena, Elaine and 23 different people; I know I do. I ’m one person with 24 I just wandered around town for a bit . We found a nice 24 friends , another with family , work colleague , a dad, 25 little bar and we stopped for a drink and we chatted 25 a brother and a son. Being with Elaine , I was able to

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1 about the new house. We left the bar and found 1 be myself . Elaine was able to get me to lower all my 2 a Mexican restaurant and had a meal together . 2 defences and I was able to show her who I really was. 3 "Afterwards, we made our way back to the arena to 3 "I loved her unconditionally and gave her the most 4 collect the girls . Elaine and I were waiting for the 4 precious thing that I could, knowing that she would keep 5 girls near to the merchandise stall as I ’d just bought 5 it safe . That was my heart. Elaine was an 6 the T- shirt for Gabrielle as promised. 6 extraordinary person, and everyone who knew her would 7 "After the bombing, at first it was hard for me to 7 say the same. She just had a way with people. You felt 8 remember the wonderful times I had shared with Elaine 8 that you could open up to her and tell her anything. My 9 and the time we’d spent together . It was upsetting for 9 dad’s auntie , who is 99 years old , described Elaine as 10 me as I would do anything for things to go back to those 10 an earth angel that had come into my life , and that is 11 days. But now, as time has passed, and I am beginning 11 precisely what she was, an angel. 12 to cope with the loss of Elaine and process my emotions, 12 "I loved Elaine so much. We had our whole future 13 I truly feel blessed to have those memories, which 13 ahead of us and we were finally going to live happily 14 I will always treasure in my heart. 14 ever after . Now that that has been so cruelly taken 15 "I was incredibly proud of the fact that Elaine was 15 away, I don’t even know what the future holds for me, 16 a police officer and I told her so. Elaine was also 16 I don’t know if I will work again or where I will live . 17 proud to be an officer and she loved her job, although 17 I can’t go back to the house we shared. Too many 18 she never talked about her work with me. She would just 18 memories. The loss of Elaine is unimaginable and 19 say, ’ It ’s just a job and it pays the bills ’. It ’s only 19 I don’t know what the future will hold for me. I am 20 since her death that I have learned she has been given 20 lost and I am alone. In one way, my life ended on that 21 several awards for her contribution to policing . 21 night , but I know that Elaine would want me to be happy 22 " It ’s hard to describe the effect the bombing has 22 and enjoy life again. 23 had on me. If I took the loss of Elaine out of the 23 " It is so hard to face each day without her, but 24 equation and it was just me with the life -changing 24 I hope one day to return to work and to try and find 25 injuries I have, that alone would be all -consuming. 25 some happiness again. But I am forever broken-hearted

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1 and the sadness will never go away." 1 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. I’m very grateful for those 2 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you, Mrs Doyle. 2 words. Thank you, Mr Weatherby. 3 I ’m confident that Paul is happy that you have done 3 MR GREANEY: Sir, I will now ask Mr Wilson to play Charlotte 4 justice to his words, so thank you. 4 Hodgson’s tribute to her daughter. {INQ035498/1}. 5 Mr Price, thank you for telling us so eloquently the 5 Pen portrait of OLIVIA CAMPBELL-HARDY 6 type of person that Elaine was and the life you had with 6 " Ollie is my daughter. She would have been 18 years 7 her. You have also told us of your plans for the 7 old now. She was just 15 years old when she was killed . 8 future . Tragically , those plans were never to be 8 Ollie had an older sister , my first born, Catriona. 9 brought to fruition because of the actions of a violent 9 When Ollie was 6 years old I met Paul and they got on 10 criminal , the sort of person who, as a police officer , 10 immediately. Paul’s daughter, Chelsea, also lived with 11 Elaine devoted her working life to protecting the public 11 us. She and Ollie became the best of friends , but were 12 from. Thank you. 12 also the most strongest sisters . 13 MR GREANEY: Sir, would you now rise, please, and we’ ll 13 "Whilst I was pregnant with Ollie , I felt as if her 14 return to the hearing at 2.30. 14 foot was permanently stuck in my ribcage. I said then 15 (1.35 pm) 15 she was going to be the biggest pain in my life . This 16 (Lunch adjournment) 16 was towards the end of my pregnancy. Instead of being 17 (2.30 pm) 17 fit and well , I was just in pain. I knew she would go 18 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Mr Greaney. 18 on to give me hell . 19 MR GREANEY: Thank you, sir. This is the pen portrait of 19 " Ollie was born 17 days late . She had been due on 20 Olivia Campbell-Hardy, known by her mum, 20 11 November, but was eventually born on the 28th. This 21 Charlotte Hodgson, as Ollie , and Charlotte Hodgson is 21 trend of being late continued all throughout her life . 22 the author of the tribute that we are about to hear. 22 She simply wouldn’t do anything, not before she was 23 The family and friends of Ollie are watching the 23 ready, so she was late for everything . She would have 24 proceedings remotely, as Mr Weatherby will explain in 24 made a great lawyer , though, because she would con you 25 a few moments, and the pen portrait takes the form of 25 and convince you that she was always right about the

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1 a video in which Ollie ’s mum gives her tribute to her 1 timing and that you had got it wrong. 2 daughter. 2 "Throughout her toddler years Olivia and Catriona 3 It contains a recording of Ollie singing "On My Own" 3 either got on or they didn’ t . They would fight like cat 4 from Les Miserables and singing also "There You’ll Be" 4 and dog in the house or they would be the best of 5 by Faith Hill . 5 friends , but if they were outside and one of them got 6 Before I invite Mr Wilson to play the video , I know 6 picked on, by God you’d know about it off the other one. 7 that Mr Weatherby wishes to address you. 7 They struck together . 8 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. Mr Weatherby. 8 " Ollie was my shadow and I couldn’t even have a bath 9 MR WEATHERBY: Thank you. Charlotte, Ollie’s mum, very much 9 without her, go to the toilet , anything. I couldn’t get 10 wanted to be in the hearing room for this moment, but 10 her to go to nursery . The only way I could was to agree 11 because of her vulnerabilities to the COVID virus, she’s 11 to promise that afterwards , we could sit and watch 12 not able to be here, and therefore Charlotte is watching 12 Supermarket Sweep. I hated that programme but she was 13 from home along with Ollie ’s stepdad, Paul. She’s asked 13 obsessed with it for some reason and this continued on 14 me to mention a number of people who will be watching: 14 to be the start of her shopping addiction . 15 Nana and Gramps, Grandma Hilary, Grandad Jack, sister 15 " Ollie made lots of friends at nursery , but her best 16 Trina, stepbrothers Daniel and Colin , stepsister 16 friend was one of her teachers called Kerry. She 17 Chelsea, and many other many and friends. 17 absolutely doted on her and Kerry doted back. 18 Charlotte has specifically asked me to say, and 18 " Olivia ’s favourite things to do were to dress up 19 I quote: 19 and drawing. She was always creative and enjoyed 20 "We as a family would like to thank the chair for 20 performing. When Ollie was very young, for some reason 21 making our princess a person and not a number. The 21 everyone thought she was a boy. I hated that fact . She 22 family hopes and trusts that the way in which the 22 had really tight curls and it didn’ t matter what 23 families have been engaged in this part of the process 23 I dressed her in , she still looked like a boy. It 24 will continue throughout and at every stage of the 24 didn’ t help that she loved nothing more than the rough 25 inquiry ." 25 and tumble with the boys and getting muddy. It wasn’t

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1 until her hair started to grow longer that she started 1 yet again Ollie talked them round. 2 to look like a girl . One day I put her in a stripy top 2 " Ollie also had decided on her mode of transport for 3 and dungarees and the photographer turned up at nursery 3 the prom. I ’m sat thinking , my God this is going to 4 and for all the world she looked like a boy. I ’d show 4 cost me. It turned out that she wanted Paul’s brother 5 you the picture but Ollie would literally kill me. 5 Stephen’s blue scooter and that’s what she got. The 6 "One year we went to Haven in Blackpool with 6 school said it had never been done before, but they 7 friends . Ollie was about 5. She decided to enter the 7 could facilitate it . That was Ollie : always wanting to 8 talent competition with her sister and my friend’s 8 announce that she was going to arrive . Stephen drove 9 daughter. All three of them had made a dance routine up 9 her in through the school gates , just as a stretch 10 to the Tiger Club song. They came second; Ollie was 10 Hummer arrived. No one cared about the Hummer, 11 dead proud of herself . She always said she hated being 11 everybody turned and was so impressed that this 12 the centre of attention , but I could see how much she 12 11-year-old girl had turned up on the back of a scooter . 13 enjoyed herself that night in the limelight . 13 " Ollie had a date for prom called David. Knowing 14 "After finishing nursery Ollie went on to St Peter’s 14 Ollie so well , he bought her a prom gift of blue 15 school , which was the same school her sister went to and 15 earrings . She had a great night and danced her socks 16 that I had also been to when I was younger. Her first 16 off . When I went to pick her up, all she wanted was 17 few years there were great and she made many friends. 17 a photograph with her three favourite teachers . They 18 However, a new headmaster started and she began to hate 18 adored her. 19 the school . 19 "Any of the school reports I got for her said she 20 " Olivia ’s sister , Catriona, was about to move to 20 was funny and cheeky and that they couldn’t shout at her 21 high school and Paul’s daughter, Chelsea, also living 21 because she would make them laugh and she was just 22 with us needed to get into a high school . We wanted 22 a pleasure to have. 23 them to all be in the same school together so they could 23 "At some stage she went away with the school to 24 look after each other , so after finding the right one we 24 London and she loved it and she was amazed how different 25 finally moved Ollie to a different primary school which 25 it was to her town of Bury. Her teacher called me

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1 would eventually take her to the same high school as her 1 whilst she was away, quite concerned at the fact that 2 sisters . 2 Ollie had had a full conversation during her sleep about 3 " Ollie moved to Totty Primary in Year 5. She loved 3 sausages and handbags, and then had told the teacher to 4 it and she thrived . She became a different child . She 4 eff off but was quite clearly asleep . The teacher was 5 joined the choir , and her education came up. It was the 5 in fits but had to let me know about this conversation . 6 best marks she was ever getting . She was a different 6 I just couldn’t do anything but laugh because that was 7 child overnight and was coming home from school so 7 just Olivia . The conversations we had in her sleep over 8 happy. The teachers loved her, and when she left they 8 eyelashes and bags and she didn’ t have any recollection 9 didn’ t want her to go. They all cried . 9 of them. It was hilarious . 10 "When the time came to leave primary school , there 10 "She said she was going to go to London again, but 11 was a primary prom. Ollie ’s favourite colour was blue, 11 she didn’ t , she never got there . She didn’t want to be 12 so she decided that everything had to be blue . And 12 away from me for one. And two, she was too young. 13 I mean everything. She loved blue so much. She had 13 " Olivia then moved on to Totty High School. She 14 this gobstopper once that was blue and it coloured her 14 loved it there . She did find it hard because there was 15 tongue, her fingers , in fact her entire face . She was 15 a lot of pupils , but she made lots of friends . She 16 so proud of herself . I managed to get some of the blue 16 thrived , especially with her music. She got so much 17 off her face , but she had to go to school with blue 17 from her lessons and the teacher really invested a lot 18 fingers and a blue tongue. She said the teachers didn’ t 18 of time into Olivia because he could see how interested 19 pull her up about it , but she was so cheeky she’d have 19 Olivia was in her music. 20 talked her way out of it if she was in trouble . 20 "She really enjoyed being at school and hated having 21 "So prom time. She has the blue hair , the blue 21 to miss it when she was ill . She was never any trouble , 22 nails , blue dress . Aaron, Ollie ’s adopted uncle, my 22 except for talking and singing in class . 23 best friend , dyed the ends of her hair blue . We managed 23 "At some point Olivia developed a severe problem 24 to get the school ’s permission for this , which we were 24 with her legs , which caused her a lot of pain. The 25 quite shocked about because they were quite strict , but 25 muscles weren’t growing properly and she had to have

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1 physio to stretch them. At this time Ollie had been 1 on Paul’s head. The crack was horrendous. But we 2 playing football for Bury Junior Girls . She had to stop 2 couldn’t tell her off because we were all busy laughing . 3 playing for 18 months because the physio meant she 3 It was impossible to be angry with her. All she did was 4 wasn’t allowed to do certain sports . But Ollie was 4 make you laugh. 5 determined. She was going to get her legs right and get 5 "One thing Ollie was serious about was her music and 6 back to her sports . She had the determination to do it . 6 singing . This was her life . If anyone had taken that 7 "When she was about 12 years old, the school was 7 away from her, her life would have been over. Music or 8 holding a charity swim gala and Olivia was going to take 8 make-up or her bed, those were her favourite things . 9 part in that . Even though she was advised by 9 " Ollie was good at doing her make-up. She was 10 specialists , myself , doctors that she wasn’t to do it , 10 self -taught, watching videos on YouTube. She spent 11 she was so determined and she managed it. The 11 hours and hours trying different stuff out. She got me 12 headteacher watched the event and told me he was so 12 mad with it . But she had to have her contouring and her 13 proud of Olivia . Even though she’d had this difficulty , 13 eyebrows on fleek . I still don’t know what that means, 14 she wanted to raise money to help others . When she 14 but she always said it . 15 finally climbed out of the pool I could tell she was in 15 "Although the school was strict about pupils not 16 agony, but she still had that smile on her face because 16 wearing make-up, Ollie got away with it because she was 17 she was proud she’d done it . That was Ollie : always 17 so good at it and you just couldn’t tell she had it on 18 putting others before herself . 18 half the time. Despite her love of make-up, Ollie 19 " Ollie were a funny kid . She would always do things 19 wasn’t a girly - girl . She loved her sport and she was 20 purposely to make people laugh. We once had a bag 20 basically a tomboy in make-up. I remember the first 21 in the front room and she was determined she was going 21 time she FaceTimed me, she was at her friend Laura’s, 22 to fit in it . She didn’t ; she got her head and top in 22 and I was in shock. Ollie and Laura had been playing 23 and that was it and she then crawled around the floor 23 make-up and had tried to do it like a drag queen. 24 trying to get the rest of her body in. 24 I took a photo and Ollie asked me why. I told her 25 "On other occasions , we decided to go to McDonald’s 25 it would come in handy one day when she turned 18.

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1 for food. She got dressed in her onesie , her wellies 1 I never got the chance. 2 and her coat, but there was no talking her out of it , 2 " Ollie had really wanted to make music her career , 3 I told her we were staying in and she was determined 3 either as a singer in the West End or as a music 4 that ’s what she was going to wear. If that ’s what she 4 teacher . It always had to be about music. She told me 5 wanted, that ’s what she got. She said , ’Mum, if I can 5 she was going to be famous one day and get a house in 6 make someone smile, then my day’s happy.’ 6 New York and she said she wanted me to have a big house 7 Ollie didn’ t walk into a room; she made an entrance. 7 and a cleaner and someone to do my ironing so I could 8 The door would fling open and standing in the doorway 8 have a break. Her house was going to be decorated with 9 and she’d shout, ’Bonjour.’ It was her way of saying , 9 llamas and dinosaurs and unicorns . She was a funny 10 ’ I ’m here.’ She opened the door with such force that 10 girl . 11 Paul had to put a doorstop in because we were worried 11 " Ollie had a thing about dinosaurs . She never 12 she was going to break it . 12 really said , ’ I love you’ to people. She told us that 13 "Anything she did , she made funny. We were painting 13 in dinosaur language ’ roar ’ means ’I love you’, so she 14 the living room one day and the song ’Writing on the 14 would come up and just say, ’Roar, mum’, and that was 15 Wall’ by Sam Smith came on the radio. Ollie could sing , 15 her way of saying that she loved me. 16 but she started singing along in this silly voice and 16 " Olivia ’s other favourite TV programme was 17 she changed the words to ’The Paintings on the Wall ’. 17 Judge Rinder. He would do his thing and would put his 18 All I could do was laugh at her. 18 hand up and say, ’ Talking ’, if someone tried to 19 "She was always coming up with something to make 19 interrupt him and she would do a great impression of 20 people laugh and you just had to have your phone 20 him. Olivia learned to do the song ’On My Own’ from 21 constantly on and ready to catch her in the act. One 21 Les Mis. The song contains a line , ’ I ’m talking to 22 Easter she’d left her Easter egg in the fridge and it 22 myself but not to him.’ Every time that line came on, 23 was rock solid . So instead of just breaking it on a 23 she couldn’t keep her face straight and she would always 24 worktop or something, Ollie walked over to Paul, sat 24 revert to Judge Rinder’s impression for the word 25 beside him, waited for him not to look, and whacked it 25 talking , but then seamlessly go back to the beautiful

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1 love song. 1 just silence . I ’m never going to hear her laugh again. 2 "When Olivia was 12, she sang at my mum’s wedding. 2 The house is silent . It could be full of people, but 3 She stood up in front of 150 people and sung "All of Me" 3 there ’s a silence and an emptiness that can’t be 4 by John Legend, completely a cappella . All night people 4 explained because that was only filled by you. The fun 5 were coming up to me saying there hadn’t been a dry eye 5 and the laughter has gone with you. We sit in the 6 in the house, grown men crying over an 11-year -old ’s 6 living room and every now and again the door will fling 7 voice and how beautiful it was. The pride I felt in her 7 open and we know it’s you. I never believed in anything 8 was only matched by the pride she rightfully felt in 8 like that but it ’s your way of saying hello . Her way of 9 herself . 9 saying bonjour and Olivia ’s way of saying roar . 10 " Ollie had too much to give. She had her whole life 10 "With all her funny ways, Olivia also hated odd 11 ahead of her. With her determination , she would have 11 numbers. If the volume on the TV was 11, she would turn 12 accomplished whatever she set out to achieve . She put 12 it to 10. When she died, she was given a body number. 13 100% into everything , but she always did it with a smile 13 She was number 5. She would have hated that. Being an 14 on her face . She’d have made people laugh. She just 14 odd number, whoever gave her that number is surely being 15 wanted everyone to be happy. 15 haunted by her. Olivia is not a number. To the world 16 " Ollie made an impact on everyone she met. My best 16 she is one of the 22 angels , not to me. She is Ollie , 17 friend Aaron said: 17 she will never be just a number. 18 "’ Ollie was the perfect annoying little 18 " Ollie was a 15-year-old girl , she had her whole 19 sister /daughter/niece/ friend anyone could ask for . She 19 life ahead of her. She got to meet her first nephew 20 was passionate about everything she put her mind to and 20 Thomas, who was born just days before she died , but she 21 knew just what to say in every situation , even if it was 21 never got to meet Piper Olivia , but Piper is a mini 22 to be said in a silly way. No one will come close to 22 Olivia . Even her due date was 22 May. Piper has 23 that girl . She was and she will always be in my heart. 23 definitely got Ollie ’s attitude and flings the door open 24 Olivia , I miss you, love Uncle Aaron.’ 24 in the same way. I tell Catriona all the time, ’God 25 My mum Ruth, Ollie’s nana, said : 25 help you.’ Olivia would have loved Piper and she would

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1 "’ Ollie , to miss you would be an understatement. 1 have spoilt Thomas and Piper rotten. 2 You know that as I tell you every day, the one thing you 2 " Ollie , my princess , I miss you so much. You were 3 can’t tell me is what boy it is this week, but I dare 3 special , or speckle , as you would say. You know we love 4 say you’re telling your grandad or should I say bugging 4 you so. I will simply say, ’Roar from mummy’. 5 your grandad. You can’t sit on my sofa on your phone, 5 "This is Ashley Rowe, Ollie ’s 10-year-old niece and 6 headphones in, and say, "You all right , nana?" And 6 this is what she wrote: 7 I would say, "Yes", and you would say, "I love you", or 7 "’When I was sad, she was always there . When my 8 you would just say ,"Roar", and I would just say, 8 world was dark, she stood by me and lit it up again. 9 "I love you too, baby girl ." It ’s strange you not 9 She was understanding of my problems and she was the 10 telling me what you want for your birthday from January 10 only one I could trust with my feelings and emotions. 11 to October and Christmas from September. You were 11 She dreamed to be a singer . She made the world a better 12 funny, loving , smiley and also a pain in the neck when 12 place for me. She was my world. When she went, my 13 you had one of your moods on. But that’s what made you 13 world went dark. I ’m nothing without her. All of me 14 you. 14 loves all of you.’ 15 "’You would have loved your niece , Piper Olivia . 15 "And she does." 16 She was named after you. She’s a star . I bet you have 16 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Mr Weatherby, I am very grateful to 17 a laugh when you’re watching her. Well, baby girl , 17 Olivia ’s mother Charlotte for helping me and all of us 18 I could go on and on about what I miss about you, but 18 get to know her daughter. This has been a very 19 I expect you have to go and sing with the other angels , 19 important process for me and for all of us involved with 20 so for now, until we have our little chats, I will say 20 the inquiry . Neither Olivia , nor any of those who died, 21 I love you and look after that piece of heart you took 21 are or will be simply numbers to us. And with her 22 from me with you. Hold it tight and you will know I’m 22 determination and sense of humour, Olivia would have 23 always with you and you are always with me.’ 23 made a success of a life in music or in anything else 24 "Since Olivia ’s gone, the laughter ’s left us too. 24 she chose to do. Thank you. 25 I tell a story and expect to hear her laugh but there ’s 25 MR GREANEY: Sir, that completes those pen portraits that

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1 we were due to hear today. So we will now invite you to 2 rise , please , and we’ ll resume tomorrow morning at 9.30. 3 SIR JOHN SAUNDERS: Thank you. 4 (2.58 pm) 5 (The inquiry adjourned until 9.30 am on 6 Wednesday, 23 September 2020) 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

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Opus 2 [email protected] Official Court Reporters +44 (0)20 3008 5900 September 22, 2020 Manchester Arena Inquiry Day 9

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Opus 2 [email protected] Official Court Reporters +44 (0)20 3008 5900 September 22, 2020 Manchester Arena Inquiry Day 9

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