23414 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 for the College of Micronesia, which was re­ new paragraph and renumber succeeding any such facility, the standards relating to ferred to the Committee on Appropriations. paragraphs accordingly: location established under subparagraph "(3) Notwithstanding any other provision (1) (A) of this subsection shall require such of this section, the Secretary shall determine location to be in a remote area in order to AMENDMENTS whether the siting and construction of any minimize the dangers to persons and prop­ LNG facility are in compliance with stand­ erty from discharge, explosion, or other mal­ Under clause 6 of rule XXIII, pro­ ards prescribed under paragraph (1) of this function. If the Secretary determines that posed amendments were submitted as subsection if such facility is one for which follows: initial construction was completed at least the facility is not in compliance with such H .R. 51 four years prior to the date of enactment standards, no application for the operation By Mr. MURPHY of New York : of tb:is Act but which has not been placed of such facil'ity shall be approved by the -Page 66, after line 8, insert the following in operation by such date. With respect to Department of Energy."

EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS A REPORTER'S VISIT TO VIETNAM the aid issue in meetings last fall. Washing­ "sanctuaries" needed to sustain their guer­ ton's subsequent decision to slow normaliza­ rilla operations against the Heng Samrin tion, Mr. Holbrooke added, was solely in re­ government. Vietnam does not consider the HON. BENJAMIN S. ROSENTHAL sponse to questions involving Cambodia, the action of the Thai Government to be "wise." OF NEW YORK refugee exodus and a Soviet-Vietnamese Vietnam's economy has suffered severe set­ economic accord, and had nothing to do with backs because of the border wars with China IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Washington decision to recognize Peking, as and the flghting with the Pol Pot forces in Wednesday, September 5, 1979 Mr. Thach charged.) Cambodia, and the Government needs to im­ Once the Vietnamese demand for an Amer­ port three million tons of food this year, a e Mr. ROSENTHAL. Mr. Speaker, dur­ ican aid commitment was dropped, Mr. figure it does not expect to achieve. ing the recent congressional recess the Thach said, "everything was agreed upon, As for renewed warfare with China, Viet­ New York Times ran a series of articles except for the writing down." He and the nam is "prepared for the worst" and the on present-day Vietnam by the noted American side had settled such matters as Chinese "must think it over before they investigative reporter Seymour Hersh. the size of the diplomatic missions in Wash­ launch another invasion." ington and Hanoi and had even begun dis­ CARTER POLICIES CRITICIZED Having visited Vietnam last month, I cussions over who would be assigned as applaud the tone of these articles and heads of mission, he said. The extended interviews with Mr. Thach request unanimous consent to insert The Vietnamese official said, however, that took place in a simply furnished living room them in the RECORD. he left New York after waiting in vain for a in the Government's guest house in the cen­ Mr. Hersh, who spent 10 days in Viet­ final meeting to conclude and sign the agree­ ter of Hanoi. Throughout the interview Mr. ment. Thach, dressed casually, as everyone is in hot nam speaking with top government of­ and humid Hanoi in midsummer, repeatedly ficials, United Nations and other relief "THE CHINA CARD PREVAILED" criticized the foreign policies of the Carter officials, and Vietnamese citizens he had Instead, he said, the United States ex­ Administration, but he distinguished be­ known as a war correspondent, depicts tended diplomatic recognition to China and tween what he called the Government and a Vietnam in severe economic need, and later accused Vietnam of making normaliza­ t he American people. a political leadership angered by the U.S. tion impossible because of its position on the "It is very bitter for the Government to outflow of refugees, its pending military in­ swallow the defeat" in the Vietnam War, he commitment to the "China card" of in­ volvement in Cambodia and its signing of said, "but for the American people it is an­ ternational politics-which apparently a long-term economic aid agreement with other thing. They are proud of their support precluded normalization of relations be­ the Soviet Union. of Vietnam during an unjust war." tween our two countries last fall. He also "I think they would like to arrange normal­ He accused China and the United States reports that over 2 million Cambodians ization with China and normalization with of conspiring to manipulate the refugee issue are threatened in the immediate future Vietnam," Mr. Thach said, "and the Ohina for international political reasons. "They with massive starvation. card prevailed above the normalization of would like, through the bias of the refugees, Vietnam. This is my assessment." to solve the question of Cambodia," he as­ While our visit was not as long as that Mr. Thach has emerged in the last six serted. "That is the biggest reason behind of Mr. Hersh, my observation is that the months as one o'f his nation's leading spokes­ the noise about refugees." Hersh articles and vignettes portray the men to the outside world, and Western and "Who is criticizing Vietnam?" Mr. Thach country well-its politics, its economy, nonaligned diplomats here believe that he asked. "First it is China and secondly the its security concerns, and the flavor of exerts great influence on Vietnam's foreign U.S.A. They are the most critical. The other the daily life. I commend the articles to policies. Handsome and self-assured, the nations are honestly very emotional about 56-year-old official made himself available the refugees, but it is a realistic emotion. my colleagues. for more than six hours of interviewing over But, you see, the United States and China As a member of Members of Congress two days in what seemed to be a major at­ have encouraged these emotion~." for Peace through Law, I think the series tempt to explain his country's policies The non-Communist countries in South­ will be of special interest to MCPL mem­ directly to the American people. Mr. Thach east Asia-principally Thailand, Singapore, bers. speaks excellent English. Indonesia and Malaysia---"have a right to [From the New York Times, Aug. 7, 1979) Among the other key points stressed by the be sensitive" a.bout the refugee issue, Mr. Secretary of State during the interview were Thach said. "It is a very great burden for HANOI SAYS U.S. DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH these: them," he acknowledged. "But you see, no­ AFTER REACHING ACCORD ON TIES Vietnam "has stopped and will continue body is excited about the fate of the four (By Seymour M. Hersh) to stop" the unauthorized flow of refugees million Cambodian people who are starving HANOI, VIETNAM, August 3.-Vietnam's from its shores. and the three million Cambodians who were Acting Foreign Minister said in an interview Hanoi "categorically" rejects any assertion killed by Pol Pot with the help of China." this week that his Government and the that the central Government has profited, "DOUBLE STANDARD" ON REFUGEES directly or indirectly, from the illegal exodus United States reached full agreement on The Vietnamese minister repeatedly com­ normalizing their relations during secret of refugees, many of whom paid enormous amounts to be allowed to flee. plained during the interviews about what talks in New York last fall, but that the Car­ he termed the double standard applied by ter Administration did not follow through Vietnam is opposed to any international the United States against his Government. on the agreement. conference on the neutrality of Cambodia "We have stopped the exit of refugees since Nguyen Co Thach, who holds the title of because the new Cambodian government 1975," he said, "but we were criticized be­ Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, said headed by Heng Samrin "has its own destiny cause we hg.d not given the people freedom that the breakthrough in the negotiations in its hand." No role for Prince Norodom to go away. Then we decided to let them go came last Sept. 28 when Vietnam dropped Sihanouk, the former Cambodian head of freely and we are criticized by the West for its demand that the United States agree to state, is possible. exporting refugees. a major aid commitment before normaliza­ Cambodia is now facing a desperate famine "And now we have agreed to channel them tion. that threatens the life of its four million through legal ext ts in part through the [In Washington, Richard C. Holbrooke, an people. United Nations High Commissioner on Ref­ Assistant Secretary of State who led the Thailand has been permitting troops of ugees and to stop all illegal exits. But now American team, confirmed subsequently that the former regime headed by Pol Pot to oper­ the Seventh Fleet is coming in and encour­ the United States and Vietnam had settled ate within its borders and to maintain the aging the people to go illegally."

• This "bullet" symbol identifies statements or insertions which are not spoken by the Member on the floor. September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23415 Repeatedly turning to the refugee issue, views here and in Ho Chi Minh City this while working in the fields in the last four he said there were two broad categories of week that 2.25 million Cambodians were fac­ years. people fleeing the country. The first group, ing starvation. OFFICIALS BESIEGED ON ARRIVAL he said, consists of "the 1.5 million people The officials, who agreed to discuss their The relief officials told of having been be­ who cooperated with the U.S. Army." He recent fact-finding trip to Oambodia after sieged by Cambodians on their arrival in went on: "There was no bloodbath. We have being promised anonymity, aJlso described the Phnom Penh* * * Wil;h many of them asking shown our humanity to them, our clem­ widescale starvation, shocking as it was, as the visitors to mail letters to family members ency. But they could not stay. Why? Because only one element of what seemed to be the and friends abroad. they have guilty consciences and, secondly, near destruction of Cambodian society under In one such letter, dated June 20, and they were used to the easy life under Amer­ the regime of the ousted Prime Minister Pol written to a doctor in Australia, a Cambodian ican aid. They cannot work hard, so they Pot. nurse, after explaining that only 6 of the 14 would like to go with the Seventh Fleet and "I have seen quite a few ravaged countries persons in her family had survived, pleaded: soon." in my career, but nothing like this," one offi­ "Please, doctor, would be sure taking my After the Communist victory in the spring cial said. He added that as much as $100 mil­ family to work in your country?" of 1975, many inhabitants of the former lion in food and medical aiid was urgently The woman added: "Sorry of my poor Eng­ South Vietnam were sent to so-called re­ needed. lish, because I never read for four years ago. education camps, where an attempt was PLIGHT HELD WORSE THAN REFUGEES ' My life always upset, no ideas, darkness in made· to instill Communist principles. The mind." austere life represented a sharp change for The officials, representing the Interna­ tional Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva The officials said they had read many of many. the public accounts of the isolation of Phnom "The second group of refugees," Mr. Thach and the United Nations Children's Fund in New York, expressed dismay that the concern Penh under the former regime, but they still said, "are the Chinese. There are two rea­ had been unprepared for the extreme de­ sons they left. First, you should know that of many Western nations over the plight of the Vietnam refugees had overshadowed struction they saw during their visit there. I have been in New York and I have talked "It cannot be understood," one experienced with the Japanese. They told me that after what they saiid would be a far greater tragedy in Cambodia. official said. "It's a dead city. I saw only one Pearl Harbor the Japanese were all concen­ pipe with running water." trated into camps and all their property con­ Relief efforts in Cambodia have been fiscated. slowed in part because of suspicion over the EVERY HOUSE HAS BEEN DESTROYED "Here the Chinese are free. You can see authenticity of the new Cambodian Govern­ "Honestly, we could not believe it," he went them in the streets. But they have the diffi­ ment headed by Heng Samrin, which was in­ on. "Every house has been destroyed and culty of being caught in a crossfire. If they stalled by Vietnam after the invas!ion of there are piles of garbage and furniture on support the Vietnamese against the Chinese, Cambodia eM"ly this year. the sidewalks." the Chinese are suspicious. If they support The reUef officials also said that during Under the Pol Pot administration, the of­ the Chinese against the Vietnamese, the their visit to Cambodia they had seen evi­ ficials said, foreign journalists and other visi­ same. If they are neutral, they are doubted dence of systematic torture in chambers tors were permitted to walk down one main by both sides. So it's very difficult for them operated by the Pol Pot Government at a thoroughfare that had been cleared of debris. to stay. Secondly, they are mostly big busi­ prison near Phnom Penh, the capital. Mem­ Seen from the street, buildings seemed to be nessmen and they don't like the socialist bers of the Pol Pot regime, they said, care­ empty but in relatively good condition. reformation of South Vietnam. They would fully logged the names and titles of their In fact, the relief officials said, every home like to go away." victims and the types of torture each suf­ had been ransacked. "It was not looting," Regarding the question of forced pay­ fered. The officials said they knew of one one official declared, "because the soldiers ments from the refugees, Mr. Thach again large burial site where the remains of per­ did not take anything for themselves." But, complained of a double standard. "Some haps hundreds of the torture victims had he said, all signs of modern civilization­ people say that we have taken money from been found after the Vietnamese invas!ion. typewriters, radios, television sets, phono­ these refugees, and at the same time they The relief experts said that the former re­ graphs, books-were destroyed. In the shut­ say that they are forced to go," he said. "So gime had not only forced citizens to evacuate tered hospitals of the capital, all the medical it is contradictory: If they are forced to go, Phnom Penh, and other cities to work in the equipment, textbooks and reference journals why must they pay money? If they must fields, as had been earlier reported, but also were found, broken and scattered, on the pay money to go, so they are not forced to had destroyed all vestiges of intellectual life floor. go." and whatever they could find of 20th-century A Roman Catholic cathedral in the center The minister, emphatically denying alle­ civUization in the country. of Phnom Penh had been razed, with not a sign of its existence remaining, the officials gations that the central Government col­ The Pol Pot Government took over lected . refugee funds, said: "There is no oam­ said. Similarly, the city's central market had bodia on April 17, 1975, after the defeat of been destroyed. such policy. I can reject it categorically." the United States-backed Government of EMIGRES RESTRICTED ON VALUABLES All the automobiles in the city, the officials Marshal Lon Nol. Mr. Pol Pot believed that said, were driven by soldiers to an empty field Mr. Thach said that Government policy the salvation of Cambodia was possible only and abandoned, left to rust as further sym­ called for punishment of those who took through the expulsion of all foreigners and bols of modern decadence. bribes but that illegal departures had an ob­ foreign influence and through "purification," vious advantage, because those who left or evacuation, of the oi.ties in an attempt to OUTBREAKS OF PLAGUE REPORTED could carry all their valuables with them, in reconstruct Cambodia's war-damaged a.grl­ The increase in rats and other vermin has contrast to the sharp restrictions on the cultura'l system. caused outbreaks of plague and other dis­ valuables that those emigrating legally were SOME FOOD SUPPLIED BY VIETNAM eases, the relief officials said. The treatment permitted to take. of the sick is complicated, they said, by a Since the fall of his Government and its lack of medical equipment, since the former Discussing Vienam's economy, Mr. Thach replacement by the Vietnamese-backed re­ acknowledged that most of the agricultural Government was scrupulously methodical in gime of Mr. Heng Samrin early this year, its destruction of hospitals. and industrial goals had not been met be­ Vietnam, itself faced with a deficit in food, cause of the wars with China and the fight­ has diverted some of tits supplies to Cam­ For example, in a hospital at Kompong ing in Cambodia. "But this is not the most bodia.. Speu, about 30 miles west of Phnom Penh, difficult time for Vietnam," he said. "The the relief team found 30 patients who had most difficult time for Vietnam is over. And Cambodia's social welfare apparatus has developed hepatitis in recent weeks because if during the American war we can stand been left in shambles, the relief officials said, of a lack of sterilizers for surgical instru­ and we can produce, why can't we now pro­ citing demolltion of hospitals, schools, water ments. The hospital had 500 patients when duce and stand?" supply facllities and sanitary systems. The the group visited it last month, with one The failure to meet industrial and agri­ destruction of s'uch fa.cm ties has been on a Vietnamese doctor who shuttled between it cultural quotas has been far more damaging scale far wider than prevlouSJly believed, they asserted. and other fac111ties. to the former South Vietnam and especially The relief officials reported that there were to Ho Chi Minh City, formerly Saigon, than Intellectuals were systematically purged, believed to be 10,000 orphans in Cambodia, to the north, Mr. Thach said. He acknowl­ the officials said. Survivors reported that all none of whom had been provided with the edged that many people were out of work in people who were known to speak foreign most basic immunizations. languages were hunted down, imprisoned Ho Chi Minh City and still slept and begged NEW EQUIPMENT 'URGENTLY NEEDED on the streets. and, in some cases, beaten to death with "They are having trouble, yes," he said, sticks. One doctor told the relief officials he Some medical supplies were provided ear­ "but it ls because they don't want to work had decided to hide his eyeglasses during the lier this year by Vietnam, the officials said, hard. They would like to have an easy life.'' four yea.rs of Mr. Pol Pot's rule for fear of and an emergency shipment of $10,000 worth being revealed as an intellectual, and of drugs and syringes was sent in this week. (From the New York Times, Aug. 8, 1979·] punished. stm urgently needed, they said, are new Of more than 500 doctors known to have surgical and medical supplies, such as X-ray 2.25 MILLION CAMBODIANS ARE SAID To FACE machines and sterilizers, for the ransacked STARVATION been p.ractlcing medioine in Cambodia before the defeat of the Lon Nol regime by the Com­ hospitals, most of which were in towns and (By Seymour M. Hersh) munist forces in 1975, the relief officials said, therefore were shut down. HANOI, VIETNAM, August 3.-United Na­ only 40 have been found. The rest are pre­ Complicating the medical supply efforts is tions and Red Cross officials said in inter- sumed to have been slain or to· have died the food crisis, the relief officials said. They 23416 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 were permitted to visit some outlying towns. PROBLEMS ARE SEVERE So I must tell you that if there a.re no human One of them, Kompong Speu, had been com­ The drain, however, is only one cf Viet­ right.<>, Vietnam could not sta.nd. these 30 pletely destroyed, they said. Everywhere they nam's current difficulties. Other critical prob­ yea.rs through these unthinkable difficulties, sa.w hundreds of children with the blank lems include the following: these unthinkable tests, if we do not have looks and distended bellies of the starving. The economy is stagnant, with little manu­ the support of the people." The officials said that the fragile govern­ facturing and little foreign-trade revenue. "There is no gap in Vietnam between the ment of Mr. Heng Samrln had set the daily Inflation, difficult for an outsider to as­ life of the people and the life of the officials," intake of rice per person at 130 grams, rough­ sess, has created 100 percent price increases Mr. Thach added. "I share in the poverty of ly 4.5 ounces. That ls less than one-third the over the last 18 months for some basic con­ my people. That's the way we can overcome average quota for other Southeast Asian na­ sumer goods. au the difficulties--even 50 million tons of tions, they said. Millions of tons of food have had to be bombs on our heads." The officials said that Cambodia's fall har­ imported to meet minimum food needs with The Vietnamese certitude and self-as­ vest was expected to yield almost nothing, much of that now being diverted to aid suredness is a source of oonstant annoyance since many of the rice fields had been devas­ famine-stricken Cambodia. to western diplomats, who repeatedly used tated in guerrilla warfare between Vietnam­ Most Western nations, shocked by the t"e­ the term "arrogant" to describe some Govern­ ese troops backing the Heng Samrin regime cent flood of "boat people," have cut off aid ment views. and the surviving Pol Pot forces. In addition, programs in retaliation. For example, Australia., New Zealand, the growing famine has forced many peas­ War with China and the ousted Pol Pot Britain and the European Common Market ant.<> to eat rice seedlings to stay alive, the Government in Cambodia have thrown all of recently cut back food aid and other pro­ officials said. grams in an attempt to influence Vietnam's Vietnam's planning programs and quotas refugees policies. EASTERN AREA CALLED A 'DESERT' into disarray. EMPTY l!ARRELS ARE VERY NOISY Yet another factor in the famine, the of­ The one million residents of Hanoi, having ficials said, is the apparent absence of any gone through 30 years of war, still suffer from Mr. Thach, however, when asked abourt significant population in the fertile rice­ antiquated transportation facilities. The only those outbacks, attributed them to those na­ growing areas east of the Mekong River, the automobiles in use are those owned by the tions' support for China. "Their aid is very area. between Phnom Penh a.nd the Vietnam­ Government and by diplomats. small, so it's not too bad," he said. ese border. "My first impress.ton after pass­ Housing is still dilapidated and shockingly "You see," he added with a la.ugh, empty ing the border ls that at present no more inadequate. One diplomat said he counted barrels a.re al ways very noisy." than 5 percent of the fields are cultivated," 80 residents living in the house next to his If Vietnam's attitude toward the West one relief official explained. "The eastern half embassy. · sometimes seems high-handed, a correspond­ of the country is a desert-no boats, no one IMPACT OF EXODUS ent encountered a touch of the same imperi­ on the roads," he said. Vietnamese officials have found it impos­ ousness toward the Soviet Union and it.<> huge The people who had lived in that area, the sible to calculate fully .the extent of the aid programs. While gra.teful for the Soviet official said, were viewed with special sus­ nation's loss stemming from the exodus of aid, Vietnamese officials made it pointedly picion by troops of the Pol Pot regime be­ ethnic Chinese in the last year. The Chinese clear that the aid would never turn Vietnam cause of it.<> proximity to Vietnam, and thus population, which once totaled 1.2 million, into a Soviet satellite, as some American they were forced to move out. traditionally has been concentrated in gov­ analysts seem to fear. A senior American official who deals with One relief official recalled his sharing some ernment offices, hospitals, schools and re­ search institutes, Vietnamese officials said. Southeast Asian affairs, interviewed in Wash­ canned litchi nuts with a group of Cam­ ington, expressed the view that the- Soviet bodian officials last month in the Govern­ They noted that 3,000 of the 13,000 Chinese living in Hanoi at the beginning of last year Union for political reasons stemming from a ment's guest house in Phnom Penh. He was reluctance to anger the United States, had astonished when the Oambodians told him worked in central Government offices. Many not sought bases or received bases in Viet­ it was the first fruit they had tasted in two of those have left, causing serious setbacks nam. "They're laying low until after the yea.rs. in the day-to-day operations of the SALT treaty passes," he said. COUNTRY KNOWN AS "LAND OF FRUIT" bureaucracy. Mr. Thach and other Vietnamese ofilcials "You have to understand," the official ex­ One senior Vietnamese official acknowl­ sa.id, however, that they would not let the plained, "Cambodia has always been known edged .that because of the outflow of Chinese Soviet Union or any other country maintain as the land of the fruit." medical doctors, "Now you can find parts of a. base on their soil. Vietnam where there are none." He added: The first-hand evidence of torture was The Vietnamese officials also said that the "We don't like to let the skilled people go Soviet Union had not interfered or applied found a.t a former French high school in away." Phnom Penh that had been converted to a. pressure to induce Vietnam not to seek nor­ political prison, the officials said. They re­ The loss has been felt not only in the malization with the United States. If such called having seen a prison file on a Cam­ upper reaches of Government and in medical pressure was brought, they said, it would be bodian doctor who was tortured to death clinics. More than 15 percent of Vietnam's dismissed out of hand. there. "The file indicated that he was tor­ coal miners were Chinese, and mining opera­ A nonaligned ambassador in Hanoi sa.ld tured a.t least 20 times," one official said with tions were said to have been hampered by the that the leadership of Vietnam had been an expression of horror, "and there were 5,000 exodus of key workers. impressed by the many social programs un­ files in the prison." Given all .these problems, Hanoi's leaders dertaken by the United States during the "You just cannot find anybody alive in remain firmly entrenched in power and seem years of America's support for the South Cambodia who has not lost somebody in serene and optimistic about the future. Vietnamese Government, and was anticipat­ his family," the official added. THE PEOPLE SEEM HAPPY ing large-scale aid to provide some needed de­ velopment programs in the North. He told of one couple who were overheard During a weeklong visit to Hanoi, a cor­ Eve.n more important, the ambassa.dor said speaking to ea.ch other in French shortly af­ respondent could only describe the attitude choosing his words carefully, ls "that with ter the Pol Pot Government came to power. of the people as happy. There were far more the United Staites, they don't have to cringe "They were accused of being intellectuals and individual styles of dress, and boy-and-girl to accept aid; with the Soviets, they do." arrested," the official said. "She was kllled the relationships were much more in evidence Surprisingly, the long years of war have next morning by sticks, but he escaped." than during a visit .to Hanoi in 1972, at the left Hanoi free of signs of damage, but even a. height of the Vietnam War. casual traveler can see the cost in terms of [From the New York Times, Aug. 9, 1979] Western values, manifested by blue jeans, social progress. The roads are few, narrow T-shirts and rock music, have begun to take and hopelessly jammed. Hanoi is still a city of EXODUS OF SKILLED ETHNIC CHINESE WORSENS hold, albeit tenuously. One young Vietnam­ HANOI'S PLIGHT bicycles and freshly slaughtered pigs being ese interpreter, a dedicaited Communist as­ slowly brought to market could be seen on (By Semour M. Hersh) signed to .the Foreign Office, conceded that the backs of the cycles.• WASHINGTON, August 8.-A crew of skilled he had a hankering for Rod Stewart Soviet longshoremen a.re now hard at work recordings. in Vietnam's busy harbor a.t Haiphong, un­ In many interviews, Western and nona­ MARY JANE JOHNSON TRIBUTE r~veling a. huge tie-up caused by a lack of ligned diploma.ts in Hanoi confirmed that, skilled workers. despite the continuing hardships, individual There are precious few factories in under­ loyalty to the Government was the corner­ HON. RONALD V. DELLUMS stone of Vietnam's viab111ty. industrialized Vietnam, but some of them had OF Asked about the Government's seemingly to be closed down recently because of a lack IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES of skilled workers. strong support at home, Nguyen Co Thach, Vietnam's Acting Foreign ¥inister, raised the Wednesday, September 5, 1979 The missing workers were ethnic Chines'!, issue of foreign criticism over the refugee and Vietnam's leaders acknowledged in inter­ exodus. • Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Speaker, for views in Hanoi last week that their nation "You see," Mr. Tha.oh said in an interview, many years people from throughout the is facing a major "brain drain" in part be­ "there are some people from the West who United States have looked to the city of cause of .the exodus of Chinese residents over say there is a lack of human rights and that Berkeley, Calif., for innovative leader­ the last year. lack is why people want to go from Vietnam. ship and ideas in the field of education. September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23417 Its programs of school desegregation, ent. You have the same opportunities as Because of past excesses, we have seen compensatory education, and special graduates before you. new government regulation, which, un­ education for minority and underachiev­ This morning, one thing we can all nod in checked, could invade personal freedom. agreement with-you: deserve a healthy pat We have made progress in correcting those ing youths have been instrumental in on the back for your achievements. Gaining excesses, but we have paid a price. With less providing the entire country with im­ a college education is one of the strongest economic independence, it is every person or portant guidelines to what is possible in vehicles you can have for entering the soci­ business for himself. Which has led to the elementary and secondary education ety. You are better equipped to enjoy our politicization of business. Many corporations programs. Berkeley is proud of its freedoms and economic system, while con­ new resemble quasi-governmental enter­ leadership role, and through its successes tributing something in return. prises. Leadership initiatives are easily and failures have come a recognition of Every commencement speaker probably re­ stymied by courtroom challenges. Indi­ its distinguished position in American minds his or her audience they are entering viduals feel they have little role to play in the most critical stage in our history. But the continuing tug-of-war between big education. like a successful play with different scenes business and big government. One citizen of Berkeley, perhaps more and turns, opening in many cities, there are The emerging distinctions which mark our than any other, has been both a symbol many stages. And the next few years will institutions are cloudy. Where do you fit in? and an instrument in Berkeley education prove as critical. Perhaps in a different way, This dilemma is sure to touch your lives. achievement. That person, Ms. Mary than any other time. Are we willing to be lead? Jane Johnson, has recently retired from You are entering a job market, or the Hedley Donovan, President Carter's Sen­ graduate school routine. At a time when ior Advisor and new Economic consultant, the board of education, after having people are questioning the strength .of our served two terms as its president, and put it succinctly, "One secret of America's institutions and the people who are supposed strength is that two strains-rebelliousness two as its vice president. to lead. and willingness to accept orders-run Mary Jane Johnson was active in edu­ A national publication recently addresses strongly through our national life." cation in Berkeley long before she served the problem quite well, in almost an agoniz­ The Imperial Presidency is gone. And has in her official capacities. She was a com­ ing fashion. We ar!" experiencing a lack of been for the past ten years. Americans munity leader who pioneered the de­ leadership. Commentators and politics com­ elect--and then devour a President. Appar­ segregation program, and who fought plain that President Carter is a nice guy, but ently, we concluded that the Presidency is for its retention and success. Through­ he just cannot lead the country. Some of not infallible and that we don't have to do the same people who rejected the decisive what the President says. We want to pro­ out her career, her performances have leadership of a Lyndon B. Johnson today tect our own interests and privileges more been marked by an extraordinary combi­ almost yearn for such a distinctive figure. than we are willing to balance national in­ nation of keen intelligence, inexhaustible But the malaise in our country goes be­ terests. We want more income, less taxes, energy, and a magnificent humility. yond the person who sits in the Oval Office, less regulation and more retirement than Those of us who have worked closely or who bangs the legislative gavel, or who ever before. with her admire her without measure; directs a corporation. Americans have ques­ This does not make us "bad people"­ tioned the need for strong leadership and but rather that we have been accustomed we plan soon to pause, as a community, the willingness to be followers. As TIME puts to lead the good life and leave the account­ and communicate to her our sincere it, "Americans in the '70s have developed ing to others. We do not want to be con­ thanks and appreciation for her many almost a psychological aversion to leading trolled or regulated-or led-or, are we? Do years of service. Because that service has and to being led, even while they complain you want strong leadership? Are you willing been a service to her State and her that no one seems in charge anymore." to accept it? I think we are. I think Ameri­ Nation, I felt it appropriate to enter This curious contradiction arises during cans, in this time of excesses and problem •these comments of commendation into the time when the 1960's impetus to expand, of energy shortages, are willing to do what­ to improve and make a better society has ever is necessary-and follow a leader-if the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD .• been substituted with the so-called "me­ they believe it is necessary. Rebelliousness decade" of the 70s where we've lowered our on our part today is not against a man or a THE 75TH ANNIVERSARY OF SOUTH­ expectations. The striving of the 60s, to go single institution. It is an attitude that the out and save the world, has been replac~d by individual should be let alone. That cannot WEST TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY the self-improvement movements and fads be done-quickly, at least. of the 70s. We should try to take a lot of govern­ People don't seem to have time or the ment out of our individual and business HON. J. J. PICKLE desire to follow a leader, because past lead­ life, but we must accept the fact that, in OF TEXAS ers have not delivered on pledges, have not doing so, we must largely give up federal IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES addressed the real issues, or have not avoided assistance. We can't have it both ways. We, being convicted. We also worry about our the older generation, are trying to turn the Wednesday, September 5, 1979 own personal, economic concexns. Alexis de corner now. As young leaders coming onto • Mr. PICKLE. Mr. Speaker, on August Tocqueville predicted in 1835, that the the scene, how do you vote? 18, I had the honor of addressing the American Dream always ran the risk of de­ Out of our materialistic desires and our summer graduating class of Southwest generating into anxiety-ridden material­ lack of desire to be led, there is room to ism ... that Americans would be perenially turn the tide. This country still possesses Texas State University in San Marcos, unsatisfied, always wanting more, turning personal freedom and traditions to insure Tex. Over 900 students sacrificed what the land of plenty into the land of excess. great personal opportunities. Your right to could have been carefree summer vaca­ Was Mr. de Tocqueville right? Are we be­ seize the opportunity is one of our strengths. tions to complete their school work and coming that materialistic? We can and we must participate in the become graduates of the same excellent This struggle for abundance is quite un­ continuing evolution of excellence that institution as President Lyndon B. derstandable. Traditional economics and marks our country's history and can char- Johnson. personal finances don't seem to worlc any­ acterize our future. · more. As graduates, expecting to enter the The most famous graduate of this Uni­ This graduating class helped celebrate housing market, you'll be shocked. Your versity, who learned many principles of life the 75th anniversary of Southwest Texas college diploma salary will have trouble fi­ in "Old Main" was President Lyndon B. State. During that time, the school has nancing the average cost of a home, which is Johnson. President Johnson excelled in his produced many national leaders, includ­ over $70,000. The Washington Post recently personal life and made an almost unmeas­ ing President Johnson. I thought it would wrote that a house cannot be found for urable leadership contribution. He recog­ be appropriate to consider the concept of much under $100,000 in the nation's capital. nized that change is healthy, that constant leadership in my remarks, to question In Washington, real estate wheeling, deal­ improvements and reassessments constitute ing and talking takes up almost as much progress. Speaking to the 1965 commence­ why Americans seem not to want to be time as running the government-and we ment class at Howard University in Washing­ led, while sometimes craving for more are not far behind here in Texas-and else­ ton, the President said ... "Our earth is the benefits and stronger leaders. where. the home of revolution. In every corner of Mr. Speaker, I would like to submit Instead of hopes for the future, young every continent, men charged with hope these statements for the RECORD, along people are feverishly attaining goods, which contend with ancient ways in the pursuit with a resolution of congratulations from may be cheaper today than they will be to­ of justice. They reach for the newest of the leaders of San Marcos to these fu­ morrow. All the while, people run the risk weapons to realize the oldest of dreams, that of overextending themselves. Contrary to each may walk in freedom and pride, ture leaders of tomorrow. our country's early days of abundance, when stretching his talents, enjoying the fruits ADDRESS BY CONGRESSMAN J. J. PICKLE we could always keep going West and con­ of the earth." To these critics who say that America has quer virgin areas, we have settled the fron­ Despite new problems and current crisis, gone to heck in a handbasket, I say we have tiers. Our resources are finite. Americans are the words of Lyndon Johnson apply today not-at least not yet. We are becoming a fighting for their turf instead of finding as they did 14 years ago. In ten years from "softer Nation," and as such more independ- visionary leadership. now, your generation will l1ave its name, 23418 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 Just as the 60s was known as the activist which he learned to play baseball. He was AWACS deal and delineation of current bot­ generation and the 70s marked the "me­ a sports hero who won respect in the tlenecks, I would like answers to the follow­ generation." You have the unique chance Horatio Alger manner of hard work and ing questions: To what extent has the United to seize the opportunity, to improve the States lived up to any arms sales agreements human condition, promote freedom and personal sacrifice. made in conjunction with the NATO AWACS liberty and t.o contribute to the strength Thurman was a rugged individualist, project; Have we, in fact, been slow in our of our country. admired for the way he played the game. procurement from West Germany; What His teammates showed their respect for concerns has the West Germany government RESOLUTION !'OR SOUTHWEST TEXAS STATE his abilities by recognizing him as the raised on this subject; What is the exact na­ UNIVERSITY team leader and field general. Only the ture and extent of the "compensatory deals" Whereas, Southwest Texas State Univer­ great Lou Gehrig before him had held we have made with West Germany in con­ sity commemorates 75 years of service as a that position. nection with its participation in the NATO state-supported institution of higher educa­ AWACS project; Would a determination by tion during the 1978-1979 school year; and He was an All-American while a stu­ the West German government that the 1Whereas, The official university slogan, "the dent at Kent State University, the United States had not fulfilled commitments progressive university with a proud past," Americ1an League's Rookie of the Year associated with the project be appropriate also serves as the 75th anniversary celebra­ in 1970, the league's Most Valuable grounds for reconsideration, or even cancel­ tion theme, one which encourages the univer­ Player in 1976 and an All-Star Team lation, of the West German role in that sity community and residents of the San choice seven times. project; What do we plan to do in the near Marcos area to reflect on the rich hist.ory and future to meet West German doubts on this tradition that have helped to make South­ Thurman Munson was admired for his count; and What similar arrangements have west Texas one of the state's truly outstand­ brusque frankness and complete honesty, been made for U.S. purchases of military ing colleges; and his extraordinary athletic talents and equipment from the other European partici­ Whereas, Chartered in 1899 by the State competitive spirit, and his unstinting pants in the NATO AWACS project and what Legislature as a two-year normal school loyalty to his team and his friends. is their status? Southwest Texas State Normal School opened A teammate and friend, Lou Piniella, I appreciate the information you have pro­ its doors t.o 303 students who were taught by said of the Yankee captain: "He exem­ vided me in the past on this NATO AWACS 17 instructors; and project and look forward to your response Whereas, After 75 years and three name plified a leader, he played hard, he played to these questions. changes, Southwest Texas State University tough, he played hurt." , With best regards. had an enrollment of more than 15,000 stu­ He had a burning desire to excel and Sincerely yours, dents and a faculty of more than 600 mem­ he did. LEE H. HAMILTON, bers; and As the baseball season draws to its Chairman, Subcommittee on Europe, and Whereas, With its original red-steepeled close, sports fans throughout the Nation the Middle East. building, Old Main, still in full academic use, are missing the exceptional play of one the school blends its progressive educational [From the Washington Post, Aug. 3, 1979) programs with cultural enrichment and rec­ of the great baseball players of our time. Those who live in and near the commu­ BONN POLITICIAN CRITICIZES U.S. SLOWNESS reational opportunities that provide students IN NATO ARMS DEAL with a well-rounded atmosphere for learning nity he loved so much miss his achieve­ and maturing; and ments even more.• (By Michael Getler) Whereas, Known throughout the state for BONN, August 2-A leading defense spe­ its teacher education program, Southwest cialist in West Germany's opposition party Texas gained national attention when one of STATUS OF NATO AWACS PROGRAM has threatened to block Bonn's pa.rticipation is most famous graduates, Lyndon B. John­ in the $1.8 billion NATO project to buy U.S.­ son, became president of the United States; built early-warning radar planes unless the and HON. LEE H. HAMILTON United States speeds up its promised com­ Whereas, All university divisions have con­ OF INDIANA pensatory purchases of German products. tributed t.o the anniversary observance, IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES The threat came in a letter from Christian which culminates with the summer academic Democrat Carl Damm to Bonn Defense commencement; and Wednesday, Sep~ember 5, 1979 Minister Hans Apel. Damm called on Apel Whereas, Since its opening in 1903, South­ to warn U.S. Secretary of Defense Hiarold west Texas State University has grown into a e Mr. HAMILTON. Mr. Speaker, I would Brown of the seriousness of the situation, first-class regional, state, and national insti­ like to bring to the attention of my col­ and to urge that the United States "fulfill tution of higher learning, and students, leagues correspondence I have had with its responsibil1ties." alumni, and all the people of Texas can be the Department of State concerning the Damm is an influential member of the proud of its progress and its dedication to status of the NATO AWACS program. defense committee of parliament, and it is excellence; now, therefore, be it Early in August, it was reported that generally felt here that he has enough sup­ Resolved by the Commissioners Court of the Federal Republic of Germany, which, port to carry out his threat. Hays County, the City Council of the city of The letter reflects growing impatience in San Marcos, and the Board of Directors of along with the United States, is the ma­ some quarters over getting the United States the San Marcos Chamber of Commerce that jor participant in this project, might to live up to its commitment to a "two-way these bodies commemorate the 75th anniver­ block funds allocated to it, because of the street" in international military hardware sary of Southwest Texas State University and alleged slowness with which the United purchases. This frustration arises from a offer best wishes for continued growth and States had purchased certain West Ger­ perception that the U.S. m111tary, Congress ac!W.emic excellence; and, be it further man communications and transportation or industrial lobbies can slow or derail for­ Resolved, That official copies of this resolu­ eign purchases to which the U.S. adminis­ tion be prepared for Southwest Texas State equipment. tration has a.greed. University and for its president, Dr. Lee H. An August 21, 1979, letter from Mrs. "As a parliament, we have to deal with Smith, as an e·xpression of highest regard Lucy Wilson Benson, Under Secretary of the United States of Ainerlca. as a whole," from the citizens of the community.e State for Security Assistance, Science said Damm in an interview, and not with and Technology, should help to clarify the U.S. Army, trucking lobbies or the the situation regarding West German Congress. TRIBUTE TO THURMAN MUNSON participation in this important program After years of controversy and debate, NATO last year agreed to buy 18 of the big of NATO standardization and improve­ Boeing radar planes-known as AWACS, for HON. RALPH S. REGULA ment. airborne warning and control system-with OF OHIO The correspondence follows: West Germany picking up 30 percent of the AUGUST 7, 1979. cost, the United States paying 42 percent, IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HON. LUCY WILSON BENSON, and the other NATO nations sharing the re­ Wednesday, September 5, 1979 Under Secretary of State for Security Assist­ mainder. In return for its major support, ance, Science and Technology, Depart­ however, Bonn was promised a number of • Mr. REGULA. Mr. Speaker, many peo­ ment of State, Washington, D.C. compensatory deals, including the U.S. mil1- ple of our Nation were saddened Au­ DEAR MRS. BENSON: On August 3, 1979, The tary purchase of some 9,000 Genna.n vehicles gust 2, by the tragic airplane crash which Washington Post reported that a leading worth $111 million and a. German telephone took the life of one of baseball's greatest member of the West German parliament had system to replace the antiquated U.S. mili­ catchers, the New York Yankee's Thur­ threatened to block West Germany's partici­ tary network, for a.bout $105 million. man Munson. pation in the procurement of the AWACS Damm complained that rather than some aircraft for NATO because of what he con­ 1,500 vehicles a year, the United States thus Thurman was a resident of the Stark sidered a failure on the part of the United far has purchased only 282 vehicles and has County community in Ohio, and one of States to purchase in a timely fashion cer­ not let the contract for the phone system. its best-known citizens. He was a devot;ed tain West German equipment. In Damm's view, that is not nearly enough family man who also loved the city in In addition to a status report on the NATO to give parliamentary committees here con- September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23419 fidence that the United States will live up to expressed displeasure with the pace of ac­ concerning the lack of any evidence that its pledge, given its historical lack of interest tivity in the telephone system and ad­ in foreign purchases. ministrative vehicle programs. motorized rafts were harming the can­ "I'm in favor of AWACS and don't want Progress on the telephone system has been yon, the Colorado River, or animal and to kill it," Damm said. "What I'm trying to on schedule. However, in a closed mark-up, plantlife in the canyon. In that meeting, do is send a warning signal to the U.S. gov­ the Defense Subcommittee of the HAC ap­ Park Service officials admitted (and ernment-three or four months before the parently cut ETS FY 80 from $17.5 million to many times since) that the motors did defense committee here meets-that if noth­ $9 million. DOD hopes that the Congress not harm anything but "their own aes­ ing happens before then, it is my feeling wm restore this reduction. Still, in the worst thetic values." A letter was sent to the that we will not release the next $55 million case, the program should be approved and Secretary of Interior by the Arizona del­ in our 1980 budget for AWACS." started in October, but with fewer switches. Another cause of German frustration, Regarding administrative vehicles, the Air egation requesting empirical evidence Damm said, is that purchase of the French­ Force buy should be completed on schedule of harm and answers to nine questions German Roland air defense missile is still in FY 83 (3,032 vehicles valued at about $45 concerning the EIS. The Secretary re­ stalled in congressional disagreement and million) . The Army program has not been as sponded to the requested information the U.S. Army, rather than buying 10-ton successful as originally anticipated, inas­ after 7 weeks; however, the information trucks already in service with the German much as its FY 80-85 program is not firm at could not be sent to the public for in­ army, is going out for bids on another, simi­ this time, but we expect that it will reach lar vehicle. clusion in the RECORD, because it was levels which, when coupled with the Air received 1 day before the end of the pub­ Andreas von Buelow, the number-two man Force program, will total $100 million which in Bonn's Defense Ministry, said in a radio was anticipated by both the FMOD and DOD lic comment period. interview, "If we should come to the con­ for the Administrative Use Vehicles (AUV) Subsequently, on May 1, 1978, I asked clusion that the American attitude is devel­ buy. the Secretary for a time line as to when oping along the lines suspected by Damm. I might add that the 120 mm tank gun we would consider this a basis for destroy­ the Environmental Impact Statement program is proceeding on schedule and that would be published. I did not receive a ing the contract." He added, "But for the both our governments are satisfied with its time being this is not so." progress. reply from the Secretary until Octo­ Damm acknowledged that he has no hard ber 23, 1978, almost 6 months later, and evidence that the United States will eventu­ On balance, we believe that German De­ fense Minister Apel and his colleagues in the then with no specific details as to when ally fulfill these projects. U.S. officials in the EIS would be announced. As you Europe admit the truck program is going German government are convinced of the more slowly than it should, but they also firmness of our commitment to arms coop­ know, people make plans months, even say there is no intention to back out. eration and to improving NATO standardiza­ years in advance to go on these river tion and interoperability in order to increase trips, and suspension of the motors the effectiveness of the AlUances' military UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE, would be disasterous to thousands mak­ FOR SECURITY ASSISTANCE, forces. ing plans. SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, I believe that the above answers all the questions raised in your letter. I would be On January 31, 1979, the Park Service Washington, D .C., August 21, 1979. announced in a briefing that publication Hon. LEE H. HAMILTON' pleased to discuss this matter further with Chairman, Subcommittee on Europe and the you if you believe that might be useful. of the final EIS would be tentatively set Middle East, House of Representatives. With best regards. for April 1979. This was later confirmed DEAR LEE: Thank you for your letter of Sincerely, by lettter from the Park Service. April, August 7, 1979, concerning a report in The LUCY WILSON BENSON .• May, June came and went. Public assur­ Washington Post of August 3, 1979, dealing ances were given that July 1, 1979, dead­ with the procurement of AWACS and com­ STUMP CALLS COLORADO RIVER line would be met or the present system pensating United States purchases. would be continued into the 1980 season. The US offered ea.ch government par­ ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATE­ ticipating in the NATO AWACS program a MENT DISCRIMINATORY On August 3, 1979, the final EIS was Memorandum of Understanding that would published. permit its industries to compete on an Aside from the public participation equitable basis for US defense procurements HON. BOB STUMP sham under which the EIS was sup­ until its share of AWACS acquisition costs OF ARIZONA posedly written, I have several major (minus any economic benefits it received IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES from AWACS acquisition expenditures) were objections to this EIS. offset. The MOU offered no guarantees, ex­ Wednesday, September 5, 1979 Mr. Bill Whalen, Director of the Na­ pressed or implied, to NATO governments. • Mr. STUMP. Mr. Speaker, on August tional Park Service, on October 25, 1977, Only the FRG requested such an MOU, and said at Estes Park, Colo., "we must work it was signed on November 14, 1978. 3, 1979, in the Federal Register, the Na­ tional Park Services released a sham to remove all barriers that keep people The US government did not agree to pro­ out of the parks, for parks must not con­ curements in Germany as compensation !or called the final Environmental Impact its participation in the NATO AWACS pro­ Statement for the proposed Colorado tinue to be exclusive." I agree with Direc­ gram. On the other hand it seems clear that River management plan for the Grand tor Whalen that we must open up our Carl Damm and a number o! members of the Canyon. The final EIS calls for the ban national parks to the public and quit Bundestag view the European Telephone of motorized trips down the Colorado being exclusive. But the Colorado System and administrative vehicle procure­ River in the Grand Canyon within 5 River-Grand Canyon EIS does just the ments as "compensation" for German par­ opposite. ticipation in the NATO AWACS program. years. This action will at the same time To clarify this apparent discrepancy, we restrict the number of people wishing to My chief objection is that the EIS have reviewed the record and believe it dem­ take a trip through the Grand Canyon would ban forever the use of motors on onstrates clearly that the United States in the summer by a third. the river, and thus preclude the public of proceeded with procurement of a European The entire public participation and the option of going on the river through Telephone System (ETS) upgrade and with comment process has been a sham. Let­ the canyon on a motorized craft. Ap­ purchase of administrative use vehicles be­ ters and cards written to the National proximately 80 percent of the public cause, after long consideration, both were Park Service opposing the removal of usage on the river is on motorized craft. considered on their own merits to be cost­ The average motorized trip takes 7 days effective. Jn fact DOD evaluation of German motors on the river were not included administrative use vehicles began before in the public response by the Park Serv­ to complete, while most oar trips average initiation of discussions with our Allles con­ ice. Last August, during the public com­ 12 to 16 days. The average person with a cerning NATO AWACS. ment process, the Director of the Na­ 2-week vacation will be precluded from However, the Bundestag Defense Commit­ tional Park Service and the Secretary of taking the trip, because of time con­ tee linked both procurements to the NATO Interior publicly announced in a news­ straints and the higher cost of the longer AWACS program by formally noting that its paper interview that the National Park oar trips. As these trips are already ex­ agreement to AWACS was based on the as­ pensive, increase in cost for the longer sumption that the US would go ahead with Servir.e "will be cutting down on the those procurements as well as concluding a number of popular motorized rafts al­ trips would place them financially out of license agreement for the 120 mm tank gun. lowed down the River." The comment reach of many people. The Defense Committee further requested was made before the plan had been com­ This discrimination would be further the Ministry of Defense to submit relevant pleted and the public participation had extended by safety factors in which the contracts at the beginning of deliberations concluded. young and the very old are excluded. A on its 1980 budget request. It ls in this con­ In March of last year, I called a meet­ 35-foot, 3-ton motorized raft is safer text that some German officials have recently ing with National Park Service officials than a 16- to 20-foot, 400-pound boat 23420 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 going down the Colorado River in "the he leaves with us a rich legacy which league was there with abrupt and bad news. could-and I hope will-lead medicine to Podoll had a. hernia, yes, but he also hact greatest white water in North America." cancer. The doctor told him matter-of-factly, One further point-it looks as though, a new and more compassionate method succinctly. at first appearances, the Park Service of treating those who have contacted the That was 2Y2 years ago. He had two pro­ has expanded the season and enlarged most dread of diseases. longed chemotherapy treatments, two bouts the user days. Just the opposite is true. The article follows: of radiation therapy. As the cancer spread Traveling the Colorado River in early THE LIFE AND DEATH OF ELLIOTT PODOLL­ finally and voraciously, he refused a third spring or late fall when temperatures A P~RSONAL ACCOUNT OF DYING treatment of chemotherapy. (By Beth Dunlop) Throughout the videotapes-filmed for the are around freezing during the day and University of Miami Medical School where below freezing at night is not feasible, Thousands of Louisville children learned Podoll taught in the department of family and thus the park goes unused. The Park to say "Dr. Podoll" about the same time they medicine-the doctor tells a story of anger Service takes a way the summer user day learned to say "Mommy" and "Daddy." and humanity suspended in time. and puts it in the winter when no one Dr. Elliott Podoll, 59, a pediatrician who The first begins in January 1977. It cap· wants to use it. Usage during prime time practiced in Louisville for nearly 25 years, tures Podoll three months into chemo­ died July 1 in Key Biscayne, Fla., of lym­ therapy, both bitter and hopeful. Bitter on the river will, in fact, decrease. phoma, a cancer that kills about 18,000 As I have said numerous times before, about how medicine is practlced-"We're Americans a year. He had moved to Miami doing things the wrong way around: we find the Park Service should keep the use of tn 1971 and became associate professor of the disease, treat the disease, treat the per­ motors, as there is no evidence anywhere ramily medicine and pediatrics at the Uni­ son." Hopeful because the process was just that suggests harm to the canyon, the versity of Miami. beginning-"My personal belief is that ill­ Podoll was more than a doctor, as his six­ waters, plant, or wildlife. The percei~ed ness can be controlled by the individual. If esthetic views of the Park Service page curriculum vitae shows. He was active I had a poor attitude, I would start dying ln a variety of community projects both in today. I'm feeling mentally and emotion­ should not be the dictates by which the Louisville and in Miami. He was also in­ American people can see their parks, ally stronger than I ever was before." ternationally known. The videotapes are informal interviews con­ especially the grandest of them all, the As a captain in the Army Medical Corps, ducted by Thomas Crowder, a minister who Grand Canyon. he was assistant chief of medicine at the teaches at the medical school. They are for I will be introducing legislation Friday 49th General Hospital in Tokyo from 1945 use in classes on treating the terminally 111 to statutorily mandate the continued op­ to 1947. In 1976 he was director of the Sum­ patient and for seminars for doctors and tion for the American public of con­ mit School for Disturbed Adolescents in nurses throughout the community. Podoll tinued motorized trips on the Colorado Jerusalem. He lectured at medical meetings made numerous other teaching tapes-most ln Venice, London and Jerusalem and was of them dealing with pediatrics, his specialty. River in the Grand Canyon. a consultant on family and community Any Member wishing to join me in this Podoll's first cancer film opens with a de­ medicine in Bogota and Cartagena. scription of his self-diagnosis and the discov­ legislation, please contact my office.• He was a 1939 graduate of the University ery of the lymphoma. He talks about hie of Louisville School of Medicine. His inter­ early dealings with his doctors. ests included hypnosis, psychiatry, psycho­ His treatment was flatly outlined for him. THE LIFE AND DEATH OF ELLIOTT therapy, sex education, unwed mothers, "The oncologist said, 'You're going· to get PODOLL mental health, drug addiction and adoles­ chemotherapy. We're going to give you the cent diabetes. He had been president of the latest things. They're only five months old.' Louisville Children's Hospital staff and the That's it. It wasn't reassuring. HON. ROMANO L. MAZZOLI Louisville Pediatric Society and was medical "They separated my body from me as an OF KENTUCKY director at the Kentucky School for the individual. I felt schizoid. Your body is taken IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Blind for 22 years. away from you. It belongs to the National Two and a half years ago, PodoII learned Cancer Institute. It's like you're being in­ Wednesday, September 5, 1979 he had cancer. He fought the good fight vaded with a process. e Mr. MAZZOLI. Mr. Speaker, Elliott and during his illness tried to persuade his "They gave me three drugs. The oncologist colleagues to be less clinical, to treat people said they're going to make you sick as the Podoll was my friend. He was an out­ as people and not just patients. Podoll also standing physician, specializing in pedi­ devil. Then he took out three large syringes­ found some humor in the process of dying. which really frightened me. I'm a human atrics. He practiced in Louisville until He put his thoughts on videotape for the being as well as a physician.'' 1971 when he joined the faculty of the University of Miami Medical School, to be He wanted to read about the chemicals. University of Miami Medical School. used as a teaching tool. The tapes are not He was told that anything in print would be Elliott fought a valiant battle against universally popular with physicians. But out of date. He wanted to know everything cancer. He lost the battle on July 1 of Podoll's son, Dr. Ronald Podoll of Louis­ he could about his body, his mind, his emo­ this year. ville, said, "The medical community knew tions. But before he died, he recorded his him well. Some of his views were different "The oncologist said there's a 75 to 80 per­ thoughts, impressions-and, yes, his but he was wen respected." cent chance that I wlll get a remission. They The younger Podoll has 13 partners in the talk about the quantity of life but not the fears-on videotape so that future gen­ practice of emergency medicine at Suburban quality of life. There's a feeling of split-­ erations of doctors might learn how bet­ and Sts. Mary & Elizabeth Hospital. He said the chemotherapy ls working on this invader ter to treat those who fall victim to the his father's example "is hard to live up to." to my body." relentless scourge of cancer. Before his father's death, he visited him The first night he had weird dreams­ The following article about Elliott first in Florida every other week for two months. that he was choking to death, that he was appeared in the Miami Herald and was The following story originally appeared skiing down an endless white mountain never reprinted in the Louisville, Ky., Courier­ in The Miami Herald on J-q.ly 8, a week after reaching the bottom. Podoll's death. The next day, he went to work. "My imme­ Joumal on August 5, 1979. Elliott Podoll didn't want to be immortal­ It is poignant. It is heart-rending. But, diate thought was, gosh, if 57 ls my magic ized with bronze plaques on wans in hospi­ number, then that's it. If I'm going to live, it is the stuff of life. And, life was what tals. His legacy to life ls captured on thin then I want to be effective. I have a place in Elliott Podoll was all about. strips of mylar videotape. the world and I want to continue it." In commending this article to mv col­ In a 30-month struggle with cancer, Podoll The predominant emotion wasn't fear. leagues attention, I also commend it to -pediatrician, teacher, psychiatry student, "Gee, I'm lucky. Other people don't know oncologists and all physicians who deal counselor, husband, father-made video­ they're going to be run over by an auto or with cancer patients. tapes analyzing the deb111tation of his body, murdered in this terrible world. we live in. I'm As Elliott said : sharing his most personal thoughts, invading lucky. I have a time span.'' his own privacy to leave behind a teaching He threw himself into that time span­ I don't want to be derogatory to the medi­ playlng tennis, working, becoming a better cal profession . .. but they need to soften tool for generations of future doctors, looking at cancer as both a physician and a human teacher, a more empathetic doctor. their approach, establish a way of communi­ Once, he had lunch with a friend, who cation, build up a relationship with their being. He fought a weary battle, persuading asked him why he was doing so much for patients ... his own colleagues to be less clinical and more other people and less for himself. It depressed ·Young doctors can be taught respect of the empathetic as they tried to fend off the him because "my self was out of my hands. human body, respect of the human mind fast-multiplying cancer cells. It was in the hands of three large syringes­ ahead of medicines (and) respect of mechan­ He was 57 when cancer struck. prednisone and these exotic antibiotics ical gadgets. It started simply, ironically. The doctor did they're giving me.'' a. self-diagnosis. He thought he had a hernia. Two months passed. Podoll did a short in­ All of us who knew Elliott Podoll will He went to a colleague for an operation. terview for a Miami television program. He miss him as a person, as a physician. But, When the anesthesia wore away, the col- talked more about his feelings, about his own September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23421 treatment. His bitterness was more institu­ He doesn't mind dying. "I'm prepared for being respected and cared about--would stay tionalized, his optimism stronger. death. I'm also prepared to fight death with with him until the last moments of life. "There was no informed consent," he said. a positive approach." "Young doctors can be taught respect of "Just you have this, and this is what we're The decisions are. easy at this point. No the human body, respect of the human mind going to fio." more chemotherapy. He has persuaded his a.head of medicines, respect of mechanical He would have preferred a choice--even doctors not to give him the cardiopulmonary gadgets." though the choice was chemotherapy or resuscitation should his heart stop. He And then he talked of why he-a person nothing. doesn't want to die with someone thumping who so safeguarded his privacy, who strove "The key, the awful key, to medicine is two on his chest. to control even his ulltimate decisions--de­ things: giving the patients the utmost edu­ "All I want is peace. That may be heroics. cided to share .his emotions, his private cation about the disease, plus giving them But I'm a person, and my body belongs to thoughts. options about therapy. This puts the patients me. I fight for my ability to make decisions, "When you die, you leave pa.rt of yourself in the position where they are part of the to be part of my own therapy." in a way in the feelings you express. I guess treatment." Too often, he says, patients aren't. "I call that's your big privilege. That's why I ma.de The camera panned from the interview set them victims of the PDR-the Physicians the tapes. That's my way of leaving a. piece to Podoll swimming, to him and his wife, Desk Reference. The patient is always a page behind-not just a plaque on a hospital wall. Rosalie, walking at the edge of the ocean. He in the PDR. The physician can always find This is my philosophy. And it's a pholosophy talked about the new medical possibility of a something in ·that book to control the of life, as well as a. philosophy of death." cure for lymphoma. "I'm looking forward to patient." July 1. Elliott Podoll died in his sleep at that. I'm looking forward to a cure." Podoll chose to take Brampton's Cocktail­ 10:30 a.m. His widow, Rosalie, said death July 1977. He is making the second teach­ a mixture of cocaine, morphine and alco­ came peacefully. He did not suffer excrucla..t­ ing film for the department of family medi­ hol-a painkiller mixture often used with ing pain.e cine-a program for physicians who will work terminal cancer patients. The alternative in pediatrics or general medicine. Later, would have left him simply coping with the Podoll confided that his teaching tapes were pain of the now-enveloping cancer. ANOTHER UNKEPT CARTER not universally popular with the doctors who June 25-eight days after the final video­ saw them. They are too radical, too tough on tape and six days before his death-Podoll PROMISE, OH-HUM doctors. recorded his thoughts about dying, his feel­ Yet cancer is tough. Cancer reduces the ings of the Brampton's mixture: "With the strongest, most analytical, most detached, to Brampton's mixture, medical science has HON. ROBERT H. MICHEL sheer humanity. It melds together the vic­ found a way to dissect your head from your OF ILLINOIS tims-who, in search of survival, surrender body. I'm very alert. I feel able to do any­ IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES their bodies to the best of scientific knowl­ thing. (But) physically, I walk from here to edge. Cancer can even separate doctors from the john and I'm worn out." Wednesday, September 5, 1979 their colleagues. He talked about the humor in dying-a. • Mr. MICHEL. Mr. Speaker, instead of By this time, Podoll has finished his initial, virtually untouched topic, one that most shy using space by giving a long preface to six-month chemotherapy. He has "an empty, a.way from-and about how people react to the article I will insert, let me simply hollow feeling." He hated the chemotherapy, the dying patient, a dying friend. It is a. state that Don Lambro, United Press In­ hated his loss of control. But it was "sort of blunt, loose, honest tape. a. protection-I still had a feeling I was get­ ternational reporter, has examined the "Once everyone knows the diagnosis and ting treatment." Jimmy Carter promise of cutting back The distance of six months let him describe the prognosis, their treatment of you on the bureaucracy and has found-how his feelings: "I was angry, depressed. Sud­ changes. They don't come in to see you. They become uncomfortable. They become solici• best to put this?-certain discrepancies denly this magical figure that I thought was between the Carter promises and the healthy, suddenly it went to pieces. My des­ tous." tiny was in those syringes in my veins." A dying patient, he said, loses his privacy. Carter performance. It hurt. His veins ached. He lost hair. He The hospital starts to own the temporal So what else is new? was nauseated. His vision blurred. His skin body. At this point I wish to insert in the had a "peculiar odor." His mouth had "ape­ "And yet I have the feeling that if I took RECORD, "Carter Has Not Fulfilled Pledge culiar taste." off my pants and streaked down the hall, To Cut Bureaucracy" as published in "Many times I thought I'd rather leave my I'm sure the nurse ,would be severely critized Human Events, August 17, 1979: life in God's hands. I persisted because I because she's allowing her patient to expose CARTER HAS NOT FULFILLED PLEDGE To CUT knew this was the only treatment." himself. I'd love to do that. I'd love to run BUREAUCRACY But there was a distinct la.ck of psychologi­ up and down the hall naked, be a streaker. cal support from the professionals. "People The only reason not to do this is that you (By Donald Lambro) with malignancies look for some hope, with lose your creditability." Despite President Carter's campaign some chance. They're looking for another hu­ His friends, he said, didn't know what to pledge to "cut the bureaucracy down to man being saying, 'Hold on, old fella, we're expect. They would "come into the room ex­ size" and throw out wasteful programs, going to give you some help.' The profession­ pecting me to look much worse than I do. few govermµent agencies have actually been als thought they had to be objective. But ob­ They say, "You look good.' There's humor abolished. jective is knowing there's a human being in this, in how people expect someone who's One of Carter's major campaign promises with feelings. You can't just treat a human dying to look. They expect you to be in in 1976 was to consolidate the bureaucracy's being with medication. agony. They expect you to be in a position 2000-plus federal agencies and programs "I was not able to communicate. I'd say, where they can look at you and say 'God, down to about 200 tightly organized units 'I'm hurting.' They'd say, 'We expect you to.' " he looks horrible. When you come up quote, of government. In 1978 there was a remission. Then the unquote, looking good, that upsets them.'' While much of this reduction, Carter said, lymphoma 'recurred. It invaded his lungs, his would be achieved through general reor- He told his friends and his physicians that respiratory tract, his throat. At the end, ganization, he also vowed that ·through zero­ Podoll sat in a Mount Sinai hospital room, he found humor in the fact that he could based budgeting-under which each pro­ no longer sleep in a bed, that he had to get an oxygen tube his last lifeline. gram must justify its existence-"unneeded It is June 18, 1979. He is filming the thlrd­ in a bathtub and run warm water to sleep or obsolescent programs" would be abolished. or lie on the :floor or in a hammock on the and final-teaching videotape. "The challenge before the nation ls to This one ls unedited. It begins with Podoll balcony of his Key Biscayne apartment. "You cut the bureaucracy down to size," he said can say it was sad. I say it was humorous. I primping, worrying whether the oxygen tube in Columbus, Ohio, on Sept. 9, 1976. If was preparing for death. As 1f someone was will look bad. elected, he promised he would "shut down He ls dying. "The issue ls," he ls saying, saying you can't live your life in a 12-hour day, so we have to make you uncomfortable out_dated agencies and programs once and "how long you want to stretch out the period for all." at night. Althou~h I suffered, I enjoyed when you're dying. The mind is well. Your thinking of ingenious ways to sleep." How has the President succeeded two and body is being eaten by termites. You wonder a half years later? if it would be better if you were in a coma." June 28. He sat fn a lounge chair-the only Despite ambitious plans to reduce the size The termites are very real to him-and comfortable position for him-and talked and cost of the bureaucracy, only a very very painful. They are his imagery for the a.bout his message. tiny number of actual agencies have been cancer cells. He ls using a positive-image "I don't want to be derogatory to the medi­ actually abolished at a very small saving. method to fight off the pain. cal profession," he said. "They do as well as On the contrary, by virtually every other "I'm alert, aware of the outside world. they can. But they need to soften their ap­ (Illeasura.ble criteria the government has There is a de·tachment I have. I have a feel­ proach, establish a way of communicating, grown by leaps and bounds. ing of a hpllow body with many termites in­ build up a. relationship with their patients. By this fall yearly spending will have in­ side. But they haven't gotten to my brain. I often felt things were out of my control.'' creased by $70 billion since President Ford Mentally, I'm trying to stamp out the ter­ Control was very important to him. Keep­ left offi.ce-up to $532 billion. Since January mites. I have a feellng mentally I'm making ing that control, t:hat sense of di~ity, of 1977 the total civ111an payroll has risen by progress." humanity, that c;ense of being ·a · person- over 34,000 workers to more than 2.8 mil- 23422 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 lion, excluding 2 million military men ano and job slots remain alive and well in Carter's "Instead of getting rid of old programs, they women. now-named Domestic Policy Staff. are starting new ones." But this is only part of the story. Other Other White House offices abolished by One of the new programs is the Depart­ growth areas are hidden. The budget does Carter, like the Energy Resources Council, ment of Housing and Urban Development's not include about $9 billion in off-budget the Federal Property Council and the Eco­ $5 million "Livable Cities Program" for grants agencies. Also excluded from e~ploye~ rolls nomic Opportunity Council were nothing but to local governments to support architectural are about one million workers in quasi-gov­ "shadow agencies," according to one White and art programs. The city of Lewiston, ernment agencies and four million contrac­ House official who said "they were pretty Maine, for example, is seeking a grant under tors, researchers, consultants and local and much moribund by the time we got to them." this program to finance its annual winter state employes whose salaries are paid by More important, several independent agen­ carnival. the government. . cies listed on the Administration's abolished In the past two years, at least 68 separate As for Carter's campaign pledge to shrmk list were killed be ca use Congress chose not government down to 200 consolidated units, to extend their authority despite support grant programs have been abolished, but in White House officials would rather forget for them by the Administration. those two years Congress and the Adminis­ tration put an additional 62 in their place. that he made it. One was the Renegotiation Board, which "I don't know ..,.,here that figure actually Essentially, Carter is applying the same died March 31 despite Carter's support, after approach to organization that he did as gov­ came from," reorganization chief Harrison Congress failed to reauthorize it. The Presi­ Wellford said in an interview. "Frankly, I ernor of Georgia when he consolidated 300 dent's fiscal 1980 budget asked for $7.3 mil­ state offices, boards and commissions into wish it had never been used." A White House lion for the agency, an increase of $1 miUion inventory-the first ever undertaken-found over the previous year. 22 super agencies. This effort, however, re­ sulted in the state payroll going up from there were 1,846 departments, agencies, What happened to the board's 180 em­ boards, commissions, administrations and ad­ 34,322 employees to 42,400 and the state ployes? Some sought early retirement or got budget rising by 58.5 per cent. visory committees, which alone numbered jobs elsewhere, but many went to work for over 1,000. (Excluded from this count are the White House Council on Wage and Price The White House is sensitive about keep­ hundreds of interagency committees spread Stability, among otJher federal agencies. ing its list of 760 abolished agencies and throughout the government which the White Other agencies like the Commission on committees intact, believing it represents House says would be impossible to tabulate.) Federal Paperwork and the American Revo- the truest picture of what the Administra­ From this master list, t he Administration 1u tion Bicentennial Administration appear tion's reorganization efforts have accom­ says it has trimmed a total of 760 units of on the White House kill list. But both went plished. government and added another 348, for a out of business because Congress enacted When asked to provide a distilled list of net reduction of 412 committees and agen­ "sunset" expiration deadlines for them, not those agencies that were actually termi­ cies. because the White House sought their demise. nated-deleting the advisory committees The cuts, however, are not as substantive This was also the case with the Indian and any agencies whose functions have been as they may appear. This is because 677 of Claims Commission which went out of busi­ transferred elsewhere-a reorganization task them are carved from the plethora of infor­ ness last September, not because the Ad­ force official said that such a list would be mal advisory committees which meet only ministration sought its termination, but be­ "impossible to compile." occasionally, rarely involve any permanent cause Congress in 1976 set a deadline for it White House reorganization officials speak staff, and represent little if any cost to a to cease operations. bluntly about the obstacles they have had budget that spends $1.5 billion a day. The National Center for Productivity and to combat in their two-year bureaucracy­ Yet even with the reduction of 677 Quality of Working Life, for which Carter cutting exercise. through terminations and mergers, the cost provided $3 million in his fiscal 1979 budget, "The reality is that there is no office so of advisory committees is still up-from $64.9 closed its doors last September 30--again, be­ humble or useless that it doesn't have some million last year to an estimated $74.1 mil­ cause Congress had placed a termination date passionate defender," Wellford said in an lion this year. This is because both Congress in its authorization law. interview. "You don't have anyone lobbying for the elimination of unnecessary agencies. and the White House continue to create new Yet the Center hasn't totally disappeared. ones each year. In 1978, 204 new panels were You never feel any pressure on that. But Two employes continue part of its work at there is always someone pushing for one of added. the Commerce Department's National Tech­ Excluding, then, these 677, that leaves 83 these limp-along, useless groups. actual Cabinet or non-Cabinet agencies nical Information Service. And last October "The zeal for pruning the bureaucracy in which the White House says it has abol­ Carter created a "National Productivity general never matches the resistance against ished. Board." cutting the specific," he continued. "That's Closer examination, however, reveals that More important, however, is the fact that just the way it is. This is a bad season for most of the 83 were merged into other, many others the White House places in its reformers. Interest groups are flourishing. larger programs-with their missions and "loss" column were just renamed and moved It's very difficult to marshall grass-roots sup­ payroll still intact, and often enlarged. into larger agencies. port and opinion on Congress. Look at them: In fact, only about a dozen functioning The National Fire Prevention and Control Common Cause, Ralph Nader's Citizens governmental units or agencies have actually Administration was moved from Commerce, Lobby, the Fortune 500. There's an extraor­ been terminated in the last two years as a renamed the U.S. Fire Administration, and dinary imbalance here. They are all protect­ result of Carter's efforts, most of them being placed in a new agency called the Federal ing some program or privilege." tiny advisory offices or councils, some with Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). That is why, Wellford said, the Adminis­ little or no staffing. And in most instances FEMA will in fact be the repository for tration's focus moved from program termi­ the employees of these agencies remain, tak­ many small agencies, including the Federal nation, which Carter emphasized in the cam­ ing other government jobs. Disaster Assistance Administration, the Fed­ paign, to one of program consolidation. For example, one of the agencies the White eral Insurance Administration, the Federal "The focus has widened," he said. "The House "abolished" was the White House Of­ Preparedness Agency and the Defense Civil emphasis is on improving efficiency-on con­ fice of Telecommunications Policy (OTP), Preparedness Agency. solidation. Having been in office for over two which was created by President Nixon to re­ The Agriculture Department's 1,000-Em­ years, we feel this is the emphasis that ls search and coordinate communications poli­ ployee Economic research Service, which does the wisest and best approach." cies and technology. marketing reports for big agricultural indus­ Why the change? "Obviously we are influ­ enced by what the market will bear on the In truth, tJhe OTP was transferred to the tries, was merged with the Statistical Re­ Hill," he said. porting Service and renamed the Economic Commerce Department and merged with its Wellford fervently believes there are still research arm, the Office of Telecommunica­ Research and Statistics Service. A spokes­ many more "programs and agencies we could tions. The merged agency, which includes woman at ERS said that no one lost their get rid of," but he also is acutely aware that some related programs from HEW, was then job as a result of the merger "the amount of political capital required to renamed the National Telecommunications Likewise, many of the old energy programs, eliminate a government agency that has a and Information Administration. like the Energ1' Research and Development Congressional subcommittee chairman as its Did the merger result in a net savings? Administration and the Federal Power Com­ protector, is very, very large." Before consolidation, the two agencies cost mission, now called the Federal Energy Reg­ By that he means that any fight to abolish less than $10 million a year. Their cost for ulation Commission, were moved lock, stock some obscure program or agency inevitably this fiscal year is nearly $12 million. and barrel into the new Department of En­ leads to opposition in Congress, sometimes "It certainly cannot be considered a termi­ ergy. making permanent enemies of lawmakers nation," a Commerce official said. "The pro­ Similar transfers of agencies occurred when whose votes the Administration needs for gram was simply lifted out of the White the Civil Service Commission was abolished major legislative battles. House and moved over here." Thus, while and renamed the Office of Personnel Manage­ Carter, he explained, is better off conserv­ the White House unit was eliminated on ing his "political capital" for major congres­ paper, its costs, employes and functions con­ ment. The new agency inherited at least sional battles, rather than waste it by alien­ tinue to exist. seven sub-agencies from the old Commission. ating lawmakers in an attempt to-erase some Similarly, while the Domestic Council, "I don't see too much evidence of programs obscure $25-milllon agency. created under President Nixon, is considered being knocked out," said Senate Appropria­ "It doesn't make sense to alienate them," abolished by the White House, its functions tions Committee staffer Tom 7an Der Voort. he added. "Carter came here with high ideals September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23423 and came up against a wall of congressional CALIFORNIA ( 119) MacDonald, Loveland; Kenneth Maughan, resistance." Jamie Aponte, San Bernardino; Ali Badja, We;;;tminster; Stella Patrick, Denver; Oscar Has the President fulfilled his campaign Los Angeles; John Barnes, Hollywood; Bar­ Pugh, Pueblo; Oval Silvrants, Denver; Steven promise to cut back the bureaucracy? bara Bennett, Lenwood; Ted Berman, Sole­ Tackett, Lakewood; Mary Westbrook, Den- "Within the realm of the political climate dad; Ronald Bowles, San Diego; Joseph Ca­ ver. and the political realities, I think he has," biera, Riverside, Edward Calleros, San Ber­ CONNECTICUT ( 5) Wellford said. While conceding that overall nardino; Jo Ella Champion, Torrance; Bar­ "growth is up," the pace of that growth has Mattie Hooten, Stamford; Paul Izzo, West bara Chase, Azusa; Alfred Clark, Los Angeles; Haven; Alonzo Reed, Hartford; Melvin Rul­ been slowed. Bruce Colemn, Compton; Larry Columbe, Nonetheless, like its predecessors, the Ad­ nick, New Brita.in; Janice Walker, New Modesto; Lynn Congaon, Azusa; Brad Con­ Britain. ministration's chief hurdle to cutting un­ ner, Sunnyvale; George Crocker, Marin Co.; necessary programs and agencies remains the Jesus Cruz, Moorpark; Roland De Armond, DELAWARE ( 1) same: Congress. Los Angeles; Antonio Del Rio, Stockton; Anna Watson, Wilmington. As he did last year, Carter proposed that Felipe Espino, Watsonville. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ( 2) 80 existing programs or agencies-totaling Ada Ezes, Yucca Valley; Clarence Ezes, Alexander Lecount and Loring Topp. $4.5 billion-simply be deleted from the fiscal Yucca Valley; Evelyn Fischer, Vallejo; Poli­ 1980 budget. They run the gamut from $3.6 capio Flores, Oxnard; Juan Gaitan, Oxnard; FLORIDA (22) million in Beekeeper indemnities (payments Theresa Glass, Monterey; Ernesto Gomez, San Solomon Anderson, Key West; Steve Ay­ for dead bees) to $1 billion in unnecessary Fernando; Michael Gonzales, Fresno; Ramon cock, West Dade; Dorothy Bell, Jacksonville; or low priority public works projects. Gonzales, Modesto; James Graft, Lancaster; Willie Clark, Chiefland; Elva Dotson, Pen­ White House sources say the list was itself Vertis Hallman, San Diego; Helen Henry, San sacola; James Filion Jr., Miami; Fannie Hand, pruned from an original proposal more than Diego; Segisfredo Herrera, Long Beach; Ba.inbridge; Freda. Kelly, Pensacola.; Daniel twice as long, but was whittled down, ac­ George Hill, Torrance; Willie Hoefke, San Laverne, Boynton Beach; Charles McField, cording to one White House official,"because Pedro; Robert Hope, San Rafael; Stephen Opa-Locka.; Robert Nichols, Fort Lauderdale. it just would have created more enemies on Hopkins, Modesto; Ada Ives, Joshua Tree; Beverly Novak, Miami; Ignacilio Nunez, the Hill than we can afford." Clarence Ives, Joshua Tree; Olin Jenkins, The consensus of opinion among congres­ Hillsborough Co.; Buelah Player, Jackson­ sional Appropriations Committee aides is Riverside. ville; Paul Sa.lamida, Miami; Edward Single­ that relatively few items on the list will be Kieron Kittle, Claremont; Douglas Krumpe, ton, Deerfield Beach; Iris Woolcock, Venice; cut in this year's budget process.e Central Valley; Carol Kumagai, Apple Valley; Thomas Young, Sarasota; undentified male, Rubin Levrette, San Bernardino; David Broward; unidentified male, Orlando; un­ Lewis, Oroville; Cornelio Llamas-Montes, identified male, Apopka; unidentified male, HANDGUN VIOLENCE CLAIMS 696 Fallbrook; Michael Lyil!ll, Fresno; Velma Miami. LIVES IN JULY . Lyons, Oakland; Manuel Magallanez, Bell GEORGIA (29) Gardens; Juan Martinez, Torrance; Martha Gen. Grant Banks, Atlanta.; Franklin Maza, Lennox; Howard McDaniel, Pacifica; Batts, Rome; Clarence Beard, Augusta; Dor­ Michael Mejia, La Puente; Terrance Meyer, othy Cooper, Ashburn; Grover Cooper Jr., HON. ROBERT F. DRINAN Lincoln; Eddy Montgomery, Hawthorne; OF MASSACHUSETTS Ashburn; Willie Cooper, Atlanta; Richard Darlene Morford, Palo Alto; James Jorford, Ewins, Atlanta.; Fulton Faniel, Atlanta.; IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Palo Alto; Ronald Morrison, Inglewood; Roy Porche Franklin, Atlanta; Madison Gordon, Wednesday, September 5, 1979 Moulton, Wrightwood; David Myers, Wood­ Ludowici; Charles Green, Savannah; Bar­ lan'.l Hills. bara Harris, Perry; Robert Harris, Perry; • Mr. DRINAN. Mr. Speaker, the un­ Karl Neuenschwander, Buena Park; Philip Niles, Los Angeles; Alfonso Olivares, Santa Charles Landers, Atlanta; Benjamin Lang­ necessary misuse of handguns resulted in ford, Atlanta. the death of 696 lives during the month Ana; Carl Olson, San Jose; Brian O'Neil, Huntington Beach; Robert Opel, San Fran­ Barbara Lanier, Atlanta; Chancey Lawson, of July-the largest number during any cisco; Adolfo Partida, Los Angeles; Javier Colquitt County; Elaine Lowery, V111a. Rica.; month yet this year. The continuing in­ Pedrosa, El Rio; Antonio Perez, Dixon; Willie Milsap, Atlanta; Julio Rozcorocco, At­ crease in the number of people who Thomas Phillips, San Diego; Janette Pinen­ lanta; Johnny Ruff, Atlanta; David Sinkfeld, needlessly perish each month is a man­ tal, San Francisco; Suwanna Quadro, Sunny­ V1lla Rica; H. W. Smith, Decatur; Barry Spa.­ date to take strong measures to curb the vale; Louis Ramirez, Torrance; Robert Rey­ kowsky, Smyrna; Jobie Thomas, Atlanta; misuse of these weapons. For the first 7 noso, San Fernando; Adam Romero, San Ber­ Alan Wllliams, Stephens County; Unidenti­ months of this year, a total of 4,512 nardino; Reginald Scoby, Compton; Serena fied female, Macon; Unidentified male, At­ media-reported handgun related deaths Savino, Indio; Perry Shuck, Roseville; Ma­ lanta; Unidentified ma.le, Doraville. have been compiled by Handgun Control, tilda. Simental, Corona; David Simmons, Au­ HAWAII (1) burn; Jim Yi Simmons, Suisun City. Raymond Wolcott, Honolulu. Inc. Otis Simmons, Suisun City; Rubin Solis, Legislation has been introduced in the La. Puente; Denim Suenram, Lake Sun; Ross IDAHO (3) House that will effectively combat this Swift, Hollywood; John Treadway, Sunny­ Gail Bock, Naples; Deborah Rayfield, Lew­ dangerous problem. I urge my col­ vale; Robert Vargo, Argus-Courier; Juan iston; and Cecil Snapp, Weiser. leagues to seriously consider such meas­ Vega, Santa Paula; Guido Viera, Anaheim; ILLINOIS (28) ures in a concerted effort to save lives, Virgil Vizina., San Diego; Anthony Volz, In­ Freddy Bell, Chicago; Leona. Brantley, Chi­ and protect innocent citizens from hand­ dio; Heinrich Vorum, Daly City; Ronald cago; Cheryl Dawkins, Chicago; John Daw­ Waddel, Hawthorne; Harold Ward, Riverside; kins, Chica.go; Cleophus Fisher, Chicago; Bo­ gun misuse. Rona.Id Warner, Oxnard; Robert Weisswa.sser, The Handgun Control, Inc., list guslaw Grabski, Chicago; Jesus Gutierrez, Los Angeles; Lynn Whinnery, Fremont; Dar­ Chicago; Melvin Horton, Arlington Heights; follows: ryl Wlllia.m, Los Angeles; Billy Williams, Alexander Jackson, Chicago; Van Jackson, ROLL OF HANDGUN DEAD Stockton; Joyce W1111ams, Petaluma; Ray­ Chicago; William Jenkins, Peoria.; Kit John­ ALABAMA ( 14) mond Wong, San Francisco; Joseph Yar­ son, Chicago; Donald Lawson, Chicago. brough, Whitethorn; Clarence Young, Los Walter Beasley, Salem; Ramsey Randolph, Angeles. Ronald Lee, Chicago; Michael Matusiak, Mobile; Johnny Blackburn, Birmingham; Unidentified female, Sanger; unidentified Chicago; Pa.trick McAndrew, Chicago; Syl­ Austen Couch Sr., Huntsville; Bonnie Couch, female, Laguna Hills; unidentified male, San vester Norris, Chicago; Frank Parrill!, Evan­ Huntsville; Alice Howard, Mobile; John Na­ Francisco, 7-1; unidentified ma.le, 23, San ston; Herve Ricourt, Chicago; Antonio Rod­ deau, Huntsville; Larry Parsons, Birming­ Bernardino, 7-8; unidentified male, 30, San riguez, Chicago; Angel Roman, Chica.go; ham; Clince Phillips, Anniston; Clement Bernardino, 7-8; unidentified male, Los An­ Esther Sepmeyer, Edwardsville; Emily Thomas, Bolingbrook; Jonathan Thompson, Stewart, Mobile; Coines Walker, Tuscumbia; geles, 7-11; unidentified ma.le, Madera, 7-16; unidentified ma.le, Los Angeles, 7-17; uniden­ Chicago; Donald Trier, Skokie; Oscar Wil­ John Whisenant, Ider; Meredith Whisenant, liams, Chicago; Kathy Young, Chicago; Un­ Ider; Sharon Williams, Tuscaloosa. tified female, Lenwood; unidentified male, Linda. Vista, 7-20; unidentified male, Perris, identified female, Harvey. ARIZONA (7) 7-25; unidentified ma.le, San Bernardino, INDIAN A (14) Stanley Edberg, Phoenix; Albert Hert, 7-25; unidentified male, Simi Valley, 7-26; Ned Brooks, Gary; Robert Brown, Gary; Phoenix; Jennifer Hopkins, Phoenix; Will unidentified male, Los Ange·les, 7-27; uniden­ Warren Buel, Michigan City; Luther Collins, Peel, Wenden; Sherri Perez, Eloy; Joseph tified ma.le, San Bernardino, 7-27; unidenti­ Indianapolis; Mae Collins, Indianapolis; fied male, Lytle Creek, 7-27. Tomberello, Phoenix; Debbie Vaughn, Donald Cross, Anderson; Arnell Glass, Jr., Phoenix. COLORADO ( 14) Gary; Denise Glass, Gary; Kathy Jones, In­ ARKANSAS ( 4) James Cotter, Denver; Raymond Cuevas, diana.polis; Larry Marsha.II, Indiana.polis; Carl Adams, Corning; Donald Frederick, Vail; Phyllis Elcess; Alvin Ephriam, Denver; James Pounds, Indianapolis; Brett Rodgers, Harrison; Leon King, Pine Bluff; Mildred Reginald Henry, Boulder; Steven Lambert, Starke County; Frederick Walker, Gary; Rogers, Arkadelphia. Denver; John Lilly, Jefferson Co.; Thomas George Williams, Indianapolis. CXXV--1474-Part 18 23424 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979

IOWA (4) Ralph Sharick. Geene County; Ralph Smith, Steven Wisdom, Oklahoina City; Ray York, St. Louis; James Ward, Kansas City. Oklahoma City. Brent Gullion, Des Moines; Robert Joslyn, Cedar Rapids; Tony Millard, Ottumwa; Jef­ MONTANA (1) OREGON (11) fery Reisinger, Des Moines. Caroline Wylie, Columbia Falls. John Arias, Beverton; Jasper Belle, Port­ KANSAS (9) NEBRASKA ( 4) land; Alan Blattman, Portla.nd; Jerald Cam­ pion, Portland; Lawrence Ebbs, Dayton; Kym Grant Avery, Peabody; Frank Foley, Lan­ Leroy Dorman, Lincoln; James Goslee, Fearrien, Redmond; Orville, Hakanson, sing; Williiam George, Wichita; Carol Meeker, Council Bluffs; Judy Ott, York; Sylvester Grants Pass; Dona.Id Ryks, Eugene; Arthur Kansas City; Tito Mejia, Kansas City; Martha Windholz, Omaha. Schroeder, Medford; George Sweitzer, Brook­ Schultze, Olathe; Amelia Skala, Belleville; NEW HAMPSHmE ( 2) Baron Slutter, Pittsburgh; Dorothy Tate, ings; John Talbott, Bend. Leavenworth. Joseph Demet, Hanover and Alaric Gustav­ (18) son, Jefferson County. KENTUCKY ( 13) Joel Bockol, Philadelphia; Michael Branch, (4) Wesley Adams, Winchester; Gilbert Allen, Philiadelphia; Theodore Cintron, Philadel­ Crab Orchard; Jesse Bowling, Confluence; Vincent Ferguson, New Brunswick; Cyn­ phia; Juan Colon, Philadelphia; Robert Chester Grimes, Frankfort; Roger Hymer, thia Gold, Newark; Eileen Gold, Newark; Hartz, Philadelphia; Ollie Helem, Overbrook; Stamping Ground; Marsha Ingram, Flem­ Donald Leotta, Bellmawr. Johnny Jennings, Philadelph~a; Kinford Krauss Sr., Spinnerstory; Mrs. L. Krauss, ingsburg; Robert Ingram, Flemingsburg; NEW MEXICO ( 5) Sp,innerstory; James Lewis, Germantown; Robert Ingram, 9, Flemingsburg; Sam Jones, Don Doucette, Albuquerque; Juan Garcia, Carter County; Billy Martin, Lexington; Janice Lewis, Germain.town; John Pizzo, Albuquerque; Chester Jones, Clovis; Epitacio PhHadelphia; Wiley Roger.s, Phlledelphia; Herbert Taylor, Jamestown; Neal Turner, Lucero, Albuquerque; Marybelle McCoy, Flora Harlan; Marshall Witherspoon, Paducah. Robert Sheppard, Germantown; Tom Single­ Vista. ton, Philadelphia; David Stanley, Phila­ LOUISIANA ( 24) NEW YORK (25) delphia; Deborah Watkins, Philadelphia; Jimmie Allen, Mansfield; John Bonnell, Robert Borwn, Harlem; Scott Cantrell, Hilda Young, Philadelphia. New Orleans; Darrell Brown, Monroe; Bal­ South Salem; Michael Christmas, Roosevelt; RHODE ISLAND ( 1) domero Cuarisha, New Orleans; Walter Dacks, Jocelyn Fermin, New York; Jose Fermin, New Covington; Ronald Dean, Shreveport; Leon­ York; Nancy Gage, Queens; Robert Gage, John Simpson Jr., Providence. ard Doucet, Jennings; Clinton Fuller, New Queens; Damon Gustavson, Long Island; SOUTH CAROLINA ( 9) Orleans; Edwin Goodwin, New Orleans; An­ Deborah Gustavson, Long Island; Lascelle Rlonnie Allen, Sr., Mount Ple8iSaillt; Elijah thony Holmes, New Orleans; Leon Jones, Hines, Bronx; George Hollaway, Brooklyn; Belin, Sr., Florence; Belin, 1st name not Port Barre; Vanessa Latson, Shreveport; Jes­ Warren Lewis, Buffalo. given, Florence; Archie Craft, Columbia; sie Lewis, Shreveport. Eliezer Lopez, Brooklyn; Earl Martin, New John Gainey, Oharleston; Sandra Gainey, Edith Marshall, New Orleans; Emile Mau­ York; Mario Pinagas, Queens; Maurice Reid, Charleston; R. A. Mobley, Florence; Jerry rice, New Orleans; Sandra Miro, New Or­ Brooklyn; Victor Roudakoff, Rockland Sieben, Summerville; GeoTge Skipper, Myrtle leans; James Pinkney, New Orleans; Dorothy County; Fernando Santiago, Brooklyn; David Bea.ch. Poland, Shreveport; Rosita Savoie, New Or­ Southard; Sally Stroup, Mattydale; Oscar SOUTH DAKOTA ( 1) leans; Lucita Ward, New Orleans; Thomas Sussman, New York; Gerald Tillem, Staten Bria.n Bundy, Rapid City. Watson, New Orleans; Leslie Webb Jr., Den­ Island; Robert Weisswasser, New York; Un­ TENNESSEE (36) ham Springs; Charles Winn, West Monroe; identified person, Salina; Unidentified male, unidentified male, Lake Charles. New York. Phillip Ad1ams, Nashvn.le; Bob Beecham, NORTH CAROLINA (18) Nashville; Peggy Beecham, Nashville; Joseph , MARYLAND ( 20) Berry, Nashville; Dana Boone, Memphis; R. D . Clark, Odenton; Bernard Clemons, Bobby Atkinson, Raleigh; Luther Davis, Novella Bowllng, Johnson City; Charley Box­ Baltimore; Arthur Contee, Baltimore; Rob­ ' Greensboro; George Decher, Fayetteville; ley, Memphis; Norvin Brown, Memphis; Le­ ert Dixon Sr., Baltimore; Horace Forney, Arthur Hayes, Apex; Carolyn Hicks, Win­ onard Broyles, Memphis; Vance Crawford, Baltimore; John Frick, Baltimore; Melvin ston-Salem; Donald Howard, Kannapolis; Jr., Memphis; J·ames Delones, Huntsville; Glass, Elkton; Harold Jenkins, Baltimore; Juanita Lamance, Sanford; Bert Lindsey, Jr., Janet Durhaim, Whitehaven; Timothy Dur­ Henry Jones, Bowie; James Joshua, Balti­ Bessemer City. ham, Whitehaven; Monroe Frank, Memphis; more; William Lawrence, Baltimore; Eric Robert McCauley, Mebane; Theodore Mc­ Florine Gaines, Knoxville; Riachel Gibson, Rada, Ridgely; Leo Shapiro, Baltimore; Cray, Dunn; Charles McDonald, Dunn; Cedla.r Grove; Norvell Hightower, Memphls. Rully Sims, Baltimore; Harry Spalding, Hlll­ Bradley Miles, Greensboro; Floyd Nichols, Jerry Hord, Kingsport; Larry Jamerson, cest Heights; James Vass, Baltimore; Steven Dlll"ham; Pansy Nichols, Durham; April Athens; Lula Jones, Columbia; Fred Keyes, Witherspoon, Baltimore; unidentified male, Radford, Mars Hill; Jane Richard, Reids­ Jr., Rutherford County; Michael Knalls, New Carrollton; unidentified male, Balti- ville; Charles Simpson, Atlantic Beach; Nashville; Robert Lynn, Winchester; more. Nathan Smith, Kenansville. Charles Maynard, Sevierville; Patricia Moss, MASSACHUSETTS ( 5) OHIO (36) Memphis; Andrew Owens, Memphis; John Sonny Alicea, Dorchester; Anthony Corllto, Frank Bly, Akron; Alfred Braxton, Cleve­ Purdy, Nashville; Tammy Ragsdale, Knox­ Boston; Roy Coull, Gloucester; Joseph Da­ land; Walter Carter, Cincinnati; Stanley ville, Elizabeth Richardson, Johnson City; melio, Boston; Faical Mouhaidly, Boston. Cetner, Cleveland; Charles Clark, Cleveland; Robert Steele, Columbia; Walter Stewart, MICHIGAN ( 18) Antonio Conte, Brook Park; Alfred Davis, Gleason; Lon Tucker, Franklin County; Barbara Utt, Sullivan County; Ella Watson, Diane Benward, Bay City; Elethea Ben­ Columbus; James Davis, Cincinnati; Frank Dillard, Cincinnati; Duane Dixon, Cleve­ Gallatin; Terry Watson, Nashville; Joe ware, Bay City; Jason Benware, Bay City; Wolfe, Rogersville. Jeffrey Benware, Bay City; Thomas Ben­ land; Lessie Ellison, Springfield Township; ware Bay City; Weldon Benware, Bay City; Violet Ellison, Springfield Township. TEXAS (102) Verdia Billings, Pontiac; Theresa Coryell, Richard Flowers, Lorain; John Fa-ye, Rut­ Corey Aiello, Richmond; Louise Allen, Durand; Lenel Flemming Jr., Flint; Larry and; Carl Greer, Columbus; William Guido, Houston; Lupe Araiza, Houston; Ed Atta­ Jones, Flint; Robert Ledford, Flint; Pauline Brook Park; Sophie Hartman, Columbus; way, Odessa; Pedro Avila, Santa Maria; Murry, Flint; Theresa Onvell, Durand; Randy Clifford Hartwig, Norwalk; Darnell Jeffries, Jimmy Bacon, San Antonio; Ernest Barrera, Pititti, Durand; Arthur Quentmeyer, Harri­ Columbus; James Kennedy, Columbus; Houston; Felix Bermea, Midland; Lester son; unidentified female, Detroit; unidenti­ James Lewis Jr., Canton; Thomas Liddy, Bernat, Houston; Lela Bradic, Plainview; fied male, Detroit; unidentified male, De­ Eastlake; Robert Maidlow, Toledo; Frank Robert Brem, Odessa; Edward Burchell, troit. Morse, Columbus. Denton. MINNESOTA ( 3) Leonard Ramseur, Cleveland; Jan Reiser, Clyde Burns Jr., Abilene; John Butler, Alonzo Bridges, Minneapolis; Victor Mer­ .Cleveland; Ralph Schrader, Mimishillen Fort Worth; Kathy Carroll, Del Rio; Lcinnie cado, St. Paul; and Heidi White, Beardsley. Township; Charles Sedar, Cleveland; Mark Carter, Dallas; Fred Casares, Dallas; Daniel MISSISSIPPI ( 4 ) Sipcich, Brilliant; Kenneth Smith-Burnett, Constancio, Lubbock; Richard Corona, Houston; Landa Davis, Dallas; James Eg­ David Bailey, Ackerman; Michael Mayer, Columbus; Timothy Talley, Aberdeen; Ken­ neth Toinaszewski, Lorain; Ronnie Wall, gert, Houston; Rosendo Elizando, Houston; Biloxi; Teresa Mayer, Biloxi; Alvin Seely, Cleveland; Joseph Wente, Cleveland; Dean­ J. P. England, Midland; Freddy Fletcher, Biloxi. na Wolgamott, Tuscarawas Township; Uni­ Texas City. MISSOURI ( 15) dentified male, Springdale. Lindy Fonsera, Houston; Robert Ford, Carl Adams, Corning; Jerry Bernat, Hous­ Harris County; L. B. Gamble, Mexia; Mar­ OKLAHOMA ( 11) ton; Donald Brinkley, St. Louis; Osborne garet Gamble, Mexia; Jesse Gaona, Galves­ Campbell, Kansas City; Sheldon Collins, Elmo Gandy, Anadarko; Opal Gandy, ton; Santiago Garcia, Houston; Ubaldo Springfield; Reubin Cruise, Kansas City; Anadarko; Henderson Harris Jr., Oklahoma Garcia, Brownsville; Alfredo Garza, San An­ Kathryn Farnsworth, Kansas; Walter Hagan, City; Jerry Husted, Oklahoma City; Dolly tonio; Leroy Gloger, Houston; Buck Gordon, St. Louis; Michael Johnson, St. Louis; Joice, Wagoner; James Leach, Oklahoma Arlington; Allan Graham, San Antonio; Thomas Miller, Linn Creek; Charles Polatty, City; John Malone, Muskogee; · Sandra Ma­ Jacquelin Hancock, Woodway. Springfield; Clarence Sampson, St. Louis; lone, Tulsa; Kathryn Stelle, Broken Arrow; Martha Hart, San Antonio; Margaret September 6, 1979 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 23425 Hawkins, Hurst; Robert Haynie, Fort E. Capehart, passed away on Labor Day. up to 30 warheads, instead o! the limit of 10 Worth; Jun~ Heffner, Everman; Robert Homer Capehart, a successful business­ provided by the treaty, an overall potential Heffner, Everman; Maurice Herrera, Fort man, served the people of Indiana with increase of 6,000 warheads or more, which Worth; Rodolfo Hinojosa, Brownsville; Ger­ distinction and fairness for three terms would otherwise be prohibited under SALT ald Hunt, Houston; Adolphus Irabor, Hous­ II. ton; Anthony Jackson, Houston; George in the U.S. Senate from 1944 through Or take the argument that the Soviet Back­ Jasso, San Antonio; Jack Kennedy, Dallas; 1962. fire bomber is not counted within the treaty Rebecca Kennedy, Houston; Randall Kings­ While I did not have the opportunity ceiling. If there were no treaty, the Soviet ton, Beeville. of working with Senator Capehart, or Union could increase the range of the Back­ Jose Lara, Houston; Raymond Lawrence, knowing him well, he did leave a legacy fire and its production rate without limits. Lone Star; Robert Leigh, Pecos; Aaron Lewis, of accomplishment in the private and Instead, in assurances that are integral to the Houston; Carl Livingston, Houston; Eddie public sectors. treaty, the Soviet Union has specifically Martin Jr., Houston; Marion McGee, Beau­ agreed to restrict the capacity of the Back­ mont; Marcus McGuinn, Fort Worth; During his years in the Senate he left fire to less than intercontinental range and Richard Meadows, San Antonio; Terry Mil­ his imprint on business and housing to limit its production to no more than 30 a. ton, Waco; Manuel Montoya, Giddings; legislation, and he was a staunch ad­ year. Tommy Morlock, Fort Worth; Joaquin Ne­ vocate of a strong defense and forceful Or, take the argument that compliance varez, San Antonio. foreign policy. As we view with alarm with the terms of the treaty is not ade­ Merle Newbauer, Wills Point; Norma New­ the growing presence of Soviet military quately verifiable. If there were no treaty, we bauer, Wills Point; Larry Padgett, Amarillo; would be required to rely entirely on our forces in Cuba in 1979, we recall that ability to penetrate what is happening in a Sandra Palmer, Fort Worth; Humberto it was Senator Capehart of Indiana who Pecina, Houston; Marion Peppers, Dallas; closed society in order to know what mis­ Virginia Philen, Athens; Joel Pomeroy, Dal­ urged the blockading of Cuba and the siles the Russians were testing or deploying. las; Margaret Pomeroy, Dallas; John Pool, forcing out of Soviet missiles and bases Instead, under the treaty the Soviet Union is Dallas; Pedro Portillo, Hart; Juanita Powell, 90 miles from our shores in 1962. required to take affirmative steps to aid us in Rosharon; Hans-Gerd Promper, Houston. Homer Capehart was the son of a monitoring these same developments. Enrique Ramirez, San Antonio; Jose Reyes, tenant farmer whose love for his State Or, take the argument that our Minute­ Baytown; Richard Reynolds, Crosby; Pablo and Na tion enabled him to succeed as a men missiles will be vulnerable in the early Rios, Jr., Houston; Alejandro Rivera, Galves­ 1980's. No one can argue that this is in any salesman, advertising agency head, to way due to, or caused by, the terms of SALT ton; Obie Robinson, Marion County; David manufacturing executive and to a Rocha, San Antonio; Olivia Rodriguez, Lub­ II. However, any steps to counteract this vul­ bock; Melvin Roland, Fort Worth; Melvin lengthy and successful tenure in the neraJbility are made much simpler by knowl­ Savoy, Beaumont; Ernest Simone, Houston; U.S. Senate. In 1962 he returned to edge under SALT II that the threat to be Mary Sproles, Fort Worth; Kevin Swain. Indiana and remained active in the Re­ counteracted comes from a limited and Arlington. publican Party. known number of Soviet missiles. Joyce Sypert, Haltom City; Felix Trinidad, Mr. Speaker, we extend our heartfelt You may be surprised to find that your Houston; Tran Minh Tung, Houston; Maria Senator, if he is opposed to the treaty, may sympathy to the Capehart family-his not be able to point to a single substantive Vasquez, San Antonio; Rosendo Villarreal, wife, Irma; his son Earl; and daughter, Houston; Diana Wanstrath, Houston; John objection that would be remedied to any Wanstrath, Houston; Kevin Wanstrath, Patricia Pearson; and his 12 grand­ extent by a defeat of ratification. Houston; Elton Williams, Dallas; unidentified children. We pray that God will com­ 2. What do you propose be done to en­ male, Houston; unidentified male, Houston; fort them in their sorrow.• hance our security that cannot be done under unidentified male, El Paso. SALT II? The fact is that whatever is being credibly UTAH (2) TWO QUESTIONS ON SALT proposed to improve our security or the se­ Donald Mitchell, Salt Lake City and Louise curity of our allies involves questions for Valdez, Kearns. broad national debate that are not inhibited VERMONT (1) HON. JONATHAN B. BINGHAM by SALT II. Should we deploy the MX mis­ OF NEW YORK sile and, if so, how? Should we enlarge our Howard Gould, Montpelie.r. nuclear forces in the European theater? VIRGINIA (14) IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES You may a.gain be surprised to find that Howard Allen, Pol"tsmouth; Leroy Booker, Wednesday,' September 5, 1979 our choices on these and the other important Richmond; Shirley Booker, Richmond; Rob­ issues of security remain the same, SALT II or ert Deutsch, Evergreen; Bruce Draper, Ever­ • Mr. BINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, a com­ not. The difference is that under SALT II we green; Renaa. Franklin, South Boston; Eileen pelling short article on SALT by Arthur can make these choices with greater cer­ Fulcher, Roanoke; Robert Keating, McLean; B. Krim appeared in the New York tainty of the extent of the strategic forces Micha.el Mayo, Richmond; Lucille Net, An­ Times for August 21. Mr. Krim, a dis­ deployed against us. nandale; Todd Net, Annandale; Stephen Pil­ tinguished lawyer and motion picture The argument that SALT II should not be green, Evergreen; Eunice Sowers, Floyd Joyce executive, is a member of the President's ratified unless and until these choices are Terry, Danville. General Advisory Committee on Arms made, even though they are unrelated to any WASHINGTON ( 8) SALT II restrictions, in effect says that one­ Control and Disarmament. The article third instead of a majority of our Sena.tors Michael Braun, Tacoma ; Ronald Estabrook, follows: should control our defense decisions. Seattle; Seigfried Harmon, Lakewood; Flor­ These two questions recognize that your ence Mansfield, Ronald Nowicki, Tacoma; (From the New York Times, Aug. 21, 1979] 2 QUESTIONS ON SALT Senator's decision cannot turn on what an Ricky Wheeler, Tacoma; Patricia Wilcox. ideal treaty might be but on whether we Prosser; Robert Wilson, Sumner. (By Arthur B. Krim) are better off under the terms of this treaty WISCONSIN ( 6) To those millions of Americans to whom or by opting for the foreseeable future to go Marjorie Brunn, Fox Lake; Oliver Brunn, evaluation of the strategic-arms treaty has our own way without restraints on either Fox Lake; John Denn, Ellsworth; Esteban become lost in technicalities and conflicting side. If you insist on satisfactory answers, Ledesman, Milwaukee; John Maertz, Meno­ generalities, I suggest that you ask your Sena­ the bottom line becomes clear·• monee Falls; Jose Renova.to, Milwaukee. tors two basic questions. You will be amazed' by the extent to which the answers will WYOMING (3) cut through to the bottom line, not only for Susan Bradley, Point of Rocks; Martha yourself, but also for your Senators as they REDTAPE SYNDROME Hopkins, Cheyenne; and Robert Middaugh, approach their own moment of truth in ma.k­ Douglas. ing one of the most crucial decisions in our country's life. 1: Which of your objections to the terms HON. BOB STUMP HOMER E. CAPEHART OF INDIANA of SALT II would be satisfied or alleviated by OF ARIZONA a repudiation of the treaty? IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES The fact is that the principal arguments HON. DAN QUAYLE against the treaty would actually in most Wednesday, September 5, 1979 OF INDIANA instances be exacerbated if the treaty were • Mr. STUMP. Mr. Speaker, one of the not to be ratified. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES major concerns voiced to me during the As an example, take the argument that the district work period was the excess Wednesday, September 5, 1979 treaty allows the Soviet Union the unfair advantage of the 308 heavy missiles now in amount of Government regulation and • Mr. QUAYLE. Mr. Speaker, one of place. If there were no treaty, this limit high taxes. The following poem, written Indiana's distinguished and outspoken would be lifted; even more, the Soviet Union by my friend Bobbie Broumley, clearly political leaders, former Senator Homer could then arm each of these missiles with expresses the concern and feelings of 23426 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS September 6, 1979 many. I am sure you will find the "Red­ prescriptions or conducting 40,000 dental while the top salary for an Army physician in tape Syndrome" of interest. checkups-all in a single day. the same specialty is $46,000: Neimes said. (But that's part of the routine for the But, Neimes said, "What attracts a phy­ "REDTAPE SYNDROME" Army's Health Services Command, which is sician is job satisfaction." A Crisis of Confidence the President said, headquartered at Fort Sam Houston. And, the Army is striving to increase job But he didn't hit the nail on the head. (Light medical writer Donna Jones exam­ satisfaction while making only "modest im­ The folks are just tired of all being bled, ines the worldwide operations of the health provements" in salaries. And the nation is sorta "seeing all red ..." service and what it means to San Antonio.) Part of what makes a job satisfying is The President can see folks begin to relax. The U.S. Army Health Services Command working in a modern facility with modern When they get out of our pockets and of! of at Fort Sam Houston is housed in an in­ equipment, Nelmes said. our backs ... nocuous building that belies its power. Plans for modernization at Fort Sam will We've so much red tape and suoh regulations, Operating with a.n annual budget that add health and dental clinics and expand Enough to choke the entire world of nations; tops $1 billion, the Army's physician­ Brooke Army Medical Center during the next Now, add to all that the rate of inflation; administrators at Fort Sam direct health seven years. The improvements are expected And how Proposition 13 created sensa- services thwt cover 3 Illillion beneficiaries to run up a bill approaching $160 million. tion .... and more than 3 Illillion square miles. By training physicians' assistants at the If Washington wants the folks to relax Six years ago, when the Army was search­ academy, administrators seek to assure that They can get out of our pockets and of! of ing for a home for this impressive command, physicians will devote their time to the chal­ our backs.... Fort Sam Houston was vying with posts in lenging aspects of medicine while assistants Long years ago when folks were discreet, Washington, D.C., and Denver. take histories and do routine tests. It often was mentioned those who work shall HBC chief of staff Col. R. E. Nelmes specu­ HSC stays in contact with congressmen eat; lates that San Antonio may have been and local leaders and keeps them up-to-date But with such give-awa.ys and our own tax chosen because since 1946, the city has been on the Army's medical needs and assets, receipt, home to the Academy of Health Sciences, a Nelmes said. Our Zero Bank Accoull!t's complete . . . clearinghouse for all Army medical person­ The Army is improving its health services The Natives are restless but we could learn nel. Approximately 40,000 enlisted men and not only because it wants to attract more to relax, officers pass through the academy, the physicians, but also because "It's an asset to If they'd get out of our pockets and of! of world's largest military training activity, the nation," Nelmes concluded. our backs.... annually, Nelmes said. And, he added, San Antonio is "a nice Every expert has an instant solution, pl&ce to be." For energy, inflation and horrendous pollu­ Besides the Academy of Health Sciences, THE "MYTHS" OF VIETNAM tion, where students can earn college CTedits It seems there may be an expert's collusion, toward associate, bachelor and master de­ 'Dhat could bring about a New Tax Revolu­ grees, Fort Sam is home to Brooke Army HON. JACK BRINKLEY tion .... Medical Center and a Regional Dental I believe, Mr. President the people would OF GEORGIA Activity. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES relax. With 10,000 sta.fI members, the HSC em­ If Washington got out of our pockets and ploys approximately 76 percent of the mili­ Wednesday, September 5, 1979 off of our backs. . . . tary personnel lllt Fort Sam Houston. -Bobbie Russell Broumley, July 25, 1979.e The command also employs 500 civilians •Mr. BRINKLEY. Mr. Speaker, for the from the San Antonio area. benefit of my colleagues, I wish to place Having a major command at Fort Sam into the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD an arti­ FORT SAM HOUSTON, TEXAS Houston has obvious economic benefits for cle which appeared in the Columbus ARMY HEALTH SERVICES San Antonio merchants who serve the mili­ Ledger-Enquirer on August 19, 1979, en­ tary population, Nelmes said. titled "The 'Myths' of Vietnam." The But, perhaps more importantly, the HSC author, Mr. Millard Grimes, draws some HON'. HENRY 8. GONZALEZ enhances San Antonio's scientific commu­ OF TEXAS nity, he added. profoundly accurate conclusions regard­ IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES The command often hosts scientific meet­ ing our Government's involvement in, ings, and the military's medical experts take and withdrawal from, South Vietnam. Wednesday, September 5, 1979 time to share their knowledge with civilian This excellent analysis of the Vietnam e Mr. GONZALEZ. Mr. Speaker, the researchers and physicians, he explained. situation sets the record straight, and I most prestigious and historical defense As a community service, the HSC operates commend this superb commentary to my installation of our country is Fort Sam one of the nation's five programs called Mili­ colleagues: tary Assistance to Safety and Traffic. This THE "MYTHS" OF VIETNAM Houston. Images and memories of great service makes available to civilian author­ soldiers who served at Fort Sam are ities military personnel and helicopters to (By Millard Grimes) evoked: General John J. "Blackjack" quickly transport traffic accident victims and As the 1970s draw toward an end, several Pershing, Foulois, Eisenhower-just to other medical emergency patients to local myths from the 1960s have become virtually mention a few. hospitals. accepted as truth and dogma, and they are Here now at this memorable 1and much But, San Antonio is only a fraction of the dangerous myths that should not pass into desired as a duty post is headquarters HSC's service area. The command provides the history books unchallenged. health care, throughout the continental First, there is the broadly-accepted myth for the U.S. Army Health Services United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, that the U.S. leaders who made the decisions Command. Johnston Islands, Guam, the Pacific Islands that led to this nation's mission in Vietnam Despite great odds, such as perennial and to other government departments, agen­ were wrong in both vision and morality. budgetary shortfalls, much needed mod­ cies and organizations. Secondly, there is the corresponding myth ern physical facilities