Eichlh Series, Vol. I ll No. 11 Monday, March 25; 1985 ------' ^ Chaitra 4, 1907 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Second Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
{Vol III contains Nos. 11 to 20)
LOK SABH^ SECRETARUT NEW DELHI Price : Rs, 4.00 CONTENTS Eighth Series, Vol. ///, Second Session 198511907 iSakd) No. 11, March 25,1985}Chaitra, 4 1907 {Saka)
C o l u m n s Oral Answers to Questions : 1—22 ♦Starred Questions Nos. 161 to 165 Written Answers to Questions : 23—219 Starred Questions Nos. 166 to 180 23—37 Unstarred Questions Nos. 852 to 856, 858 to 861, 863 to879, 37—216 882 to 923, 925 to 985 and 987 to 1018 , apers laid on the Table 219—222
Message from Rajya Sabha 222— 224
Government of Union Territories (Amendment) Bill, 1985— 224—225 Introduced
Matters under rule 377— 225—230 (i) Demand for allocation of sufficient funds for systematic development of Chilka Lake. Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik 225 (ii) Demand for reviving the licence to the Kisan Sahkari Cheeni Mill of Akbarpur (Faizabad) U.P.
Shri R. P. Suman 226 (iii) Need to start a ‘Vayudoot Air Service* to various parts of Jammu and Kashmir.
Shri Janak Raj Gupta 226 (iv) Demand for making provision in the Seventh Plan for irrigation facilities to Barmer and Jalore districts of Rajasthan from the Narmada river. Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 227 (v) Need for Central Government’s allotting sufficient funds for meeting the acute drinking water shortage in Anantapur district of A.P. Shri K. Ramchandra Reddy 228 (vi) Demand for un-conditional release of Swami Agnivesh and his colleagues before the tripartite meeting to settle quarry workers’ dispute. Prof. Madhu Dandavate 228
* The Sign f marked above the name of a Member indicates tbftt tli? question was ^tually asked pn the floor of the Hous? by that Member, (U)
C o l u m n s (vii) Demand for appointing a full time executive instead of the present part time one in the Bharat Brakes and Valvea, Calcutta.
Shri Saifuddin Chowdhury 229
(viii) Demand for setting up of an Industrial unit in Purnea district of Bihar in order to provide employment opportunities to the people of that area.
Shri D. L. Baitha 230 General Budget, 1985-86—General Discussion 230—287 and and Supplementary Demands for Grants (General), 1984-85 289— 324 Shri Laliteshwar Shahi 231 Shri K. P. Unnilmshnan 232 Shrimati Vyjayanthimala Bali 236 Shri P. Chidambaram 239 Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 244 Shri Hafiz Mohd. Siddiq 247 Shrimati Sheila Dikshit 248 Shri Lai Duhoma 249 Dr. Datta Samant 253 Shri Shantaram Potdukhe 256 Shri Shantaram Naik 257 Shri P. Shanmugam 259 Shrimati Prabhawati Gupta 261 Shri Banwari Lai Bairwa 263 Dr. K. G. Adiyodi 264 Shri Kali Prasad Pandey 266 Shri A. K. Panja 267 Shri B. K. Gadhvi 270 Shri Anadi Charan Das 272 Shrimati Phulrenu Guha 274 Shri Balram Singh Yadav 276 Shri Srihari Rao 278 Shri Ramdeo Rai • 280 SM G. S. Gholap 28? 1UI>
C o l u m n s Shri Rbjii Rfitan Ram 284
, Shri Mool Chand Daga 285 Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 289
Demands for Grants on Accounts (General), 1985-86 315— 324
Statement re Disappearance of Mr. Igor Gueja, an Official of USSR 287— 288 Embassy
Shri Khursheed Alam Khan 207
Appropriation (No. 3) Bill, 1985 325—327 Motion to introduce
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 325 Motion to consider
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 325 Clauses 2, 3 and 1 Motion to pass
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 326 Appropriation (Vote on Account) Bill, 1985 327— 335 Motion to introduce
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 327 Motion to consider
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 327 Clauses 2 to 4 and 1 Motion to pass
Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 328 Shri S. M. Bhattam 328 Dr. Datta Samant 329 Shri V, Sobhanadreeswara Rao • 330 Shri Saifuddin CJiowdhury 330 Shri V. S. Krishna Iyer 330 Shri Girdhari Lai Vyas 330 Shri Baikavi Bairagi 331 Shri Manoranjan Bhakta 331 Shri K. Ramamurthy 331 Prof. N. G. Ranga 332 Kumari Mamta Banerjee COLUMira Shri Ram Pyare Panika . 332 Shri Dileep Singh Bhuria 332 Shri Asutosh Law 333
Union Duties of Excise (Distribution) .^endmeot Bill, 19S5; Estate 335-345 Duty (Distribution) Amendment Bill, 1985; Additional Duties of Excise (Goods of Special Importance) Amendment Bill, 1985 Motioas to consider Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh 335 % Shri Janardhana Poojary 336 Shri Syed Masoodal Hossain 341 Shri K, Ramachandra Reddy 343
Union Duties of Excise (Distribution) Amendment Bill 345— 346
Clauses 2 to 4 and 1 Motion to pass Shri Janardhana Poojary 346
Estate Duty (Distribution) Amendment Bill 346 Clauses 2, 3 and 1 Motion to pass Shri Janardhana Poojary 346
Additional Duties of Excise (Good^of Special Importance) Amendment 347 Bill Clauses 2, 3 and 1 Motion to pass Shri Janardhana Poojary 347
Compulsory Deposit Scheme (Income-tax Payers) Amendment Bill, 1985 347— 350 Motion to consider Shri Janardhana Poojary 347 Dr. Datta Samant 348 Clauses 2 and 1 Motion to pass Shri Janardhana Poojary 350
Statutory Resolution re. continuance of Proclamation in respect of the 351— 372 State of Punjab, National Security (Amendment) Bill, Punjab Budget, 1985-86— Genera) Discussion, Damands for Grants on Account (Punjab), 1985-86, and Supplementary Demands for Grants (Punjab), 1984-85 Shri S. B. Chavan 351 Shri S. M. Bhattam 351 Shri Raj Mangal Pande 371 LOK SABHA DEBATES
LOK SABHA would like to know from the Miniiter whether he has got an estimate of this number of increase of houseless families every year Monday, March 25, J985IChaitra 4,1907 and also the total number of houseless 1q iSaka) this country and since the number is on th« increase—at the end of the Seventh Plan wo will have a large number of houseless people The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock, and the problem is of a gigantic magnitude-* does he envisage a suitable Plan outlay [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER considering all this projected number of houseless families in the Seventh Plan and ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS has he got a time-bound programme to tackle this gigantic problem ? [jEngUsh] SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR ; Yes. hou»* Hi£ber Allocation for Housing in Annual ing is a gigantic problem, no doubt, but it Planii does not mean that it can be solved by the Government alone. With regard to the •161. PROF. P. J. KURJEN ; Will the Seventh Five Year Plan, so far from this side Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be is concerned, we have pressed for higher pleased to state: outlays. But I am not yet in a position to say how much money they will allot for this (a) whether there is a proposal to allo- particular sector. cate a higher share for “Housing” in the annual plans by redetermining the priority; So far as the question of housing shor- and tage in India is concerned, an estimate waa made in the year 1981 and according to that (b) the details thereof ? estimate, 21 million housing units were need- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ed in India in the year 1981. Out of that HOUSING (SHRJ ABDUL GHAFOOR) : 16 million are in rural areas and 5 or 6 (a) The need for assigning higher prio- million are in urban areas. Whatever the rity for housing has been recognised. hon. Member has stated no doubt is a very gigantic problem, but you know the Seventh (b) It is not possible to indicate detailsFive Year Plan allocations are not yet out. as the outlays for the Seventh Five Year So I am not in a position to say how much Plan are yet to be finalised. money they will allot.We have asked for more money taking into account all these difficul- PROF. P. J. KURIEN : I am happy that ties. In the Sixth Five Year Plans Rs. 1493 the Minister has recognised the need for a crores were allotted but we are asking for higher outlay in the housing sector. Housing Rs. 8425 crores but how much they will give problem is a problem of gigantic proportions. in the Seventh Five Year Plan I do not We have to provide houses to lakhs and know. After that we will see how much lakhs of slum-dwellers, the rural houseless, problem is solved and how much remains. the urban houseless and also people who are landless in the rural areas. I know it PROF.fP. J. KURIEN : I am happy that is not a central subject; it is a State the Minister has understood the magnitude subject. L ie is giving assistance. Banks are of the problem and he is at it. But is ho giving assistance. Some of the State aware that in all the schemes of providing governments are also doing it in a large houses for the houseless, there is no scheme measure. But, in spite of all this, it is a to provide house-siles for the landless. Un- fact that the number of houseless families in less there are housc-sites, you cannot coni- the country is on the increase every year, I truct even a hut and especially in States li^c 2UDO$QVZHUV 0$5&+ 2UDO$QVZHUV
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would. like to ask the hon. Minister whether regions and Adivasi areas in the country; keeping in view the regional economic imba- lances in our country and the poverty of (b) if so, the names of such places where most of the people living in .the countryside these articles are not available even through which is one of the reasons of this regional fair pricc shops; and imbalance^ any direction or guidance would (c) what steps are being taken by Govern- be given by the Central Government to State ment for the proper distribution of vanas- Governments asking them to provide dwelling pati ghee and edible oils to the backward units to the poor in an equitable manner in areas and Adivasi areas of the country ? rural areas so that regional imbalances could be reduccd. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR ; You arc SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) i aware of the fact that it has been clearly (a) and (b). No specific instance of shortage stated in our 20-poim programme that the of vanaspati and edible oils in the country weakest section of our society should be particularly in the hilly regions and adivati given help for construction of houses. Simi= areas has come to the notice of the Govern- larly in all the States of the country, the ment, Presently, the availability of vanaspati highest priority has been given for providing and edible oilt is by and large satisfactory help to Harijans and the people belonging to throughout the country. However, temporary Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. For shortages of localised nature cannot be ruled the upliftnient of such people, some work has out, been done in your Bihar State and in your (c) There is no ccntralised control on the area...... distribution of vanaspati. However, the State SHRIMATI KRISHNA SHAHI ; What Governments and Union Territory Adminis- you are saying is based on caste considera- trations have been advised that they can tion where as my question is based on econo- procure about 30% of vanaspati produced by mic consideration. 1 am asking what the vanaspati units within their respective jurisdic- policy of the Government regarding reducing tion for sale through State Government the regional imbalances is. nominees or through Public Distribution System. There being keen competition amongst SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR ; This is a producers, vanaspati is being pushed to question on which all the hon. Members even remote areas of the country. Apart from will differ as to what should be the economic this» imported oil is being allotted to the base for different people. As we see in the State Government/Union Territory Adminis- villages, even the poorest man has a hut or trations for sale through Fair Price Shops shelter to live in. If you want that his hut including those in far-flung places in rural should be made pucca, then there is no such areas. plan before the Government, but so far as providing the minimum shelter is conccrncd, SHRl DHARM PAL SINGH M.ALIK : we are extending help for that. You have May know from the hon. Minister whether raised the question regarding improvement in there is any proposal by the Government to the economic condition of the people. You set up new units to produce vanaspati ghee are aware that we arc preparing our plans or edible oils in cooperatives or private sector, keeping this in view and all our efforts are and if so, is there any plan to set up such directed towards that end. units in Haryana ?
[English] RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : We have a policy of giving licences for new units and Shortage of Vanaspati in the Country under the existing policy, priority is given to public sector undertakings as number one, *162. SHRl DHARAM PAL SINGH then joint sector undertakings and then to MALIK ; Will the Minister of FOOD AND cooperatives. In backward and no industry CIViL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : districts, if these other'organisations do not come forward, then private applicants can (a) whether three has been acute shortage also be considered. of vanaspati ghee and edible oils in various . parts of the country, particularly in the hilly PROF N. G. RANG A ; Licences are t Oral Answers MARCH 25.1985 O ral Answers S given by whom ? Is it by Central Govern- against the dealers. The prices are printed oa ment ? the packages and the consumers know at what price Government has allowed these RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : Licences things to be sold. Therefore. I cannot say are given by central Government. But, I can whether there is any general complaint, as not say whether there is any application regard over-charging of edible oils that we pending from Haryana. import and distribute through the public SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK ; distribution system. Sir, is it not a fact that when the prices of There is one correction that I would like vanaspati are increased, simultaneously, the to make. I have stated that cooperatives price of pure desi ^ e e is also Increased ? Has would take the third place. But now 1 have the Government any plan to bring the prices been informed by my Ministry that coopera- of pure desi ghee under control ? At the tives arc second in priority for licensing of tame time I would like to know from the new units. hon. Minister as to what extra steps are being taken by Government to check the SHRI D. B. PATIL : it has been stated illegal marketing of vanaspati ghee or edible in the reply that the State Governments and oils, especially at the time of festivals like Union Territory Administrations have been Holi, Diwali, Id, etc. advised that they can procure 30% of vanas* pati produced by vanaspati units within their RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : Sir,Govern- respective jurisdiction for sale through ment has no control over the prices of desi Government nominees or through Public ghee and we do not plan to impose any cont- Distribution System. So, I would like to know Tois. regards, illegal marketing of vanaspti the names of the State which hav^ availed during festival season, I have not been able to of this facility. There is a provision of 30 understand the question of the hon. Member. per cent purchase of the produce in the There is no illegal marketing as such. jurisdiction of the States. Has any State Marketing is done under regulations through availed of this facility; if so to what extent ? fair price shops as aUo through private agen- cies that the manufacturers appoint. During RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : I am not festival season, we try to ensure that there is able to reply off-hand to this question. The BuffKient availability in the market for the hon. Member might be asked to give a sepa* consumers. rate notice. KUMARl MAMATA BANERJEE r I FROR SAIFUDDIN SOZ. : The hon. would like to know from the hon. Minister Minister has said that as of now government why vanaspati is not available at retail shops agencies and cooperatives will be given at fair prices. licences. But he has said if in backward regions the government does not come for- RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : Where ? ward or the cooperatives do not come for- ward, then the private parties will be consi- Unterruptiotis) dered for granting licences. In Jammu, KUMARl MAMATA BANERJEE : there are—this is my information—-four Every where in the country. parties which have established their vanaspati units. From kashmir, there are already RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : There arc six applications pending before the more than three lakh fair price shops through Ministry and not one of them has been which edible oils are distributed in our considere4 for granting linences; and Kashmir public distribution system and unless I know has a very special case for establishment of where the shortages have occurred, I will not a unit in Srinagar or any other part because be in a position to answer. our road, by and large, is a fair-weather road. When it gets closed, people of Kashmir are The prices of edible oils in the public put to a lot of trouble. Will be consider distribution system are fixed and prices of ‘ vanaspati are regulated through voluntary granting of licences to one or two partiet in Kashmir Valley so that this scarcity ii agreement between Government and the removed ? manufacturers. If there is any complaint of over-charging of pric^, then action is taken RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : All appU* Oral Answers CHAITRA 4,1907 ($AKA) Oral Answers l6 cations are considered on merit by the Licens- slight increase. ing Commiilee set up by the MLnistry of SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA : Mr. Industry. I am not in a position to say yes Deputy Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has or no to any request for a new licence. just mentioned that many State Governments PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Unless the are not availing themselves of the facilities Ministry of Food clears the applicaiion, a extended by the Central Governn^nt. 1 would licence cannot be granted by the Ministry like to know whether the hon. Minister will of Commerce. issue directions to every State Government in this respect. MR. DEPUTY SPEAiCER : You can write to him separately. Secondly, in some tribal areas, where PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : He has not power houses are being set up or work on answered my point. That is why we face a some other development complexes is going great difficulty. on, there is on propar arrangement for the supply of vanaspati with the result that the SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATUR- poor workers and the tribals have to pay VED! : I would like to know from the hon. more for it. Taking this in to consideration, Minister the quota of vanaspati fixed separa- will a country-wide survey be undertaken to tely for V.I.Ps. in the Gancsh Floor identify the pockets facing shortage of vanas- Mills, which is an undertaking of the pati and will t.he hon. Minister issue direc- Central Government, along with the names of tives to the State Governments to ensure that such VIPs as there is black marketing of there is no shortage of vanaspati in those Rs. 30 to 40 per tin of vanaspati. I would pockets ? Would the hon. Minister give an also like to know how the distribution of assurance in this regard here ? this quota is made as the benefit of this quota accrenes only to the quotaholden and not RAO BIRENDRA SINGH ; It is a to the common people. suggestion. But this suggestion has already been acted upon, when we provided this RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : A separate facility to the States. If they do not find it notice is required. With regard to another fit to avail of then the Central Government question, 1 would like to clarify. At that time, cannot do anything about it. I did not have the information. With regard to 30 per cent which the State Governments [English] . can acquire from the manufacturers in their jurisdiction, no Slate has so far availed of Bart on New Bengali Film for Chitramata this facility. SHRI BHATTAM SftEERAMAMUR- *163. SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN : THY : There is a sudden and steep rise in SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : prices of vanaspati in recent days. Is the Bovernment not aware of it or don’t they Will the Minister of INFORMATION contemplate taking some action about it ? AND BROADCASTING be pleased to As the Minister just now said there is no state : proposal for introducing any control about (a) the reasons behind the ban on new it, is it the assurance for the manufacturers Bengali films for Chitramala programme or will they take some steps to safeguard the whereas the Hindi films would be tclecast in Interest of the common consumers ? Chitrahar Programme; and RAO BIRFNDRA SINGH : Vanaspati (b) the steps taken by Government to prices are more or less controlled under a telecast new films in the Chitramala Pro- voluntary agrooment, as I slated. What I said gramme ? earlier v^ith regard to government having intention to control prices was with regard THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE to clesi ghee and not vanaspati. The price of MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND vanaspati for each pack recently had to be BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : raised on account of increase in excise duty (a) and (b). The ‘Chitramala’ programme and also in the budget from S per cent to 10 of Doordarshan consists of song and dance per cent. As a result of that, there has been a sequences from feature films in various rcftto* i 1 QrcU Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Orai Aitswers nal languages, including Bengali. The ‘Chi!ra- SHRl V. N, GADGIL ; I may state and har’ programmes consist of song and dance take this opportunity to say that we have sequences from Hindi feature films only. drawn up a calendar of the year what has Sequences from new feature films, including been on 10th of May, what has been on 11th those in Ujngfili. are accommodated in of May, i.e. based on births and death anni- ‘Chitramala' progromme, provided such films versaries of important people and other are made available to Doordarshan by parties important events. And accordingly, the pro- holding exhibition rights of such films. grammes arc arranged. Since he has men- tioned about Chaitnaya Mahaprabhu and a SHRl SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN ; film on him, certainly we will try to adjust Nobody can deny that the standard of an it during the year. average Bengali film is much better than that of an average Hindi film, SHRl BASUDEB ACHARIA : The Government has taken a decision to wind SHRl RAM PYARE PANIKA ; You up the Regional Film Division. Oflicc at cannot say so. Calcutta and transfer all film production equipment installed at Calcutta to Bombay. SHRl SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN : There is a widespread protestation all over ‘Average’ I said. Films by Satyajit Ray and West Bengal against this decision of the Mrinal Sen can be mentioned. Have you Government. In view of that, will the heard of Satyajit Ray’s name» Mr. Panika ? Government re-think, consider and give up Yet, Bengali films do not get wide market the proposal of shifting the P.egional Film because it is a regional language and due to Division OiBre from Calcutta to Bombay 7 the so-called tastes of the audience. And. in view of that, if the Government impose any SHR! V. N. GADGIL : Strictly speak- condition like exhibition rights it would not ing, this question does not arise out of the be possible for the Bangali films to compete main question. Nevertheless, I would like with Hindi films. So, I would like to know to state that this problem had been brought from the hon. Minister whether the Govern- to my notice by two Members—Mr. Sen ment would consider telecasting Bengali and Mr. Priya Ranjan Djis Munsi. I had films without any conditions, as before. some discussion with soms representatives in * Calcutta. 1 have fixed a meating with officers SHR! V. N. GADGIL : There is no ban, tomorrow to consider what is to be done. there is no condition. The only condition is that the person holding the exhibition rights SHRl SRIHARI RAO : On what basis should come forward. Unlcvs they offer, we docs not Government screen the language cannot decidc which Film to is to be shown pictures on TV and in Chitramala ? Is it or which not to be shown. • based on population or any other thing 7 How many pictures have been shown on TV For the information of the hon. Member, from 1-1-84 to 21-12-84 7 1 may add that no injustice is done to Bengali because last year, in 1984, the total SHRl V, N, GADGIL : Since there is a number of Hindi films shown in Chitramala large number of languages and the time avail* was 34 and extracts from 33 Bangali films able to us for showing Chitramala is limited, have been shown, only one less. the system followed is on the basis of rota* tion. Secondly, for Chitramala, the selection SHRl PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSl : is made by seven different centres where local May 1 know from the hon. Minister whether, languages are spoken i.e. Delhi, Bombay, for the last three years the National telecast- Calcutta, Madras, Hyderabad, Bangalore and ing frequency of Bangali songs by poets like Jullundur. They select a film in local language Tagore and Kaii Nazrul Islam have been and recommend to us. The basis for selec- reduced largely, if so the reasons thereof tion is availability of print, continued popu- and whether— this year being the five larity of the ?ong, entertainment and thcmatic hundredth birth centenary of Lord value and suitability for family viewing. On Chaitanya—the Government would consider this basis the films are selected by the local immediately telecasting his film and also his stations. We accept those rcconanawlations songs ? and they are shown oo rotation basis. 13 Oral Answers CHAITRA 4,1907 iSAKA) Oral Answers 14
House Building Loan to Central Governmcfit Employees (1) (2)
*164 SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY ; Will 1982-83 32.33 the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING 1983-84 36.29 be pleased to state t 1984-85 45.00 (a) the year-wise quantum of house- buikling loan sanctioned to the officers and 1985-86 56.00- employees of Central Governn^ent during the period 1980-84; ' (b) the rate of interest charged on such (b) The existing net rates of interest are loans from them; 7% per annum for the first Rs. 25,000; 8i% per annum for the next Rs. 25,000; J0|% (c) the rate of interest being charged on per annum for the next Rs. 25,000 and 12% loans being given to the employees of public per annum for any amount twyond Rs. sector corporations under the chargc of his 75,000 upto Rs. 1,25,000 (maximum limit Ministry; of House Building Advance). (d) whether any assessment has been (c) The Housing and Urban Develop- made from the annual property sutements of ment Corporation Ltd. which follows the officers and employed to find out how many Central Government House Building Advance of them own houses but live in Government Scheme, has adopted the same rates of accommodation; and interest. (e) how Government propose to ensure that such officers and employees do not enjoy (d) No, Sir. ' the three-fold benefit of getting loan? on low rate of interest, of getting fabulous rents for The forms of the property statements their houses and of living in Government prescribed under the rules do not contain any accommodation paying only nominal lease column for information about the Govern- charges ? ment accommodation allotted to the officials. Moreover, these statements are being sub- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND mitted in the regular course by Group A and HOUSES (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : B officers only.
(a) Year Amount (Rs. in crore) (e) Officers who own houses at or near station of their posting and are allotted (1) (2) Government accommodation are liable to pay 1980-8i 30.56 licence fee at higher rates. The details are contained in the statement laid on the Table 1981-82 30.87 of the House,
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SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : Govern- house to live in whereas there arc people ment is not hiding anything. Prior to 1977, who have houses here and at other the schemc was that the Government servants places also. Will the Government impose who have got their own houses have to live restrictions is this regard ? in them. In the year 1977 this rule was SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : Govern- changcd . . . (iruerritptions) Whether it was Ihc Janata Government, Congress Govern- ment are of the view that there should ment, whatever it is, the rule was changed in not be any restriction on the number of 1977. Now If a Government servant has got houses to be constructed by an individual his own house and if he lives in a Govern- becausc this will solve housing problem. ment quarters, he has to pay more as house rent than he would have paid, if he had no [English] house of his own . . . {inierrup!ions) When Government are not going to SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY ; Part (e) construct so many houses, if other persons of my question reads : are coming forward, then they should “hov/ Government propose to ensure construct the houses, that such ofTkers and employees do not [Translation] enjoy the thr«-fold benefit of getting loan on low rate of interest, of getting Tomorrow, the Members can say met fabulous rents for their houses and of if people having black money construct living in Government accommodation houses. Government will not take any note paying only nominal lease charges ?" of it. Please give your views for or against The Minister has stated that the lease charges it. which they have to pay will be 20 per cent [English] or 30 per cent. That is a very meagre amount. 1 know that some of the Secreta- Government will consider all those ries have let out their houses to Embassies things. and they are getting fabulous amounts as rent. [J>anslation] Will the Government come out with an SH RIGIRDHARI LAL VYAS : Mr. open statement that they are going to prohi- Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to know bit this ? from the hon. Minister whether Govern- ment has looked into the fact whether the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The Minister officials, who have taken loan from the has stated that a higher rent will be collected Government, have constructed houses from those Government servants owning whose valuation is more than the amount houses. of loan and the total amount spent is not SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : I have commensurate with their income. 1 would already answered the question. Prior to 1977, like to know whether Government has a the schemc was that the Government servants scertained the source of this additional who have got their own houses will have to amount spent. live there. This rule was changed in the SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR : This year 1977. We are following that rule.... question does not arise. I require a {.interruptions) If any proposal is given by separate notice for this. my hon. friend, the Government will look in to it. SHRI GIRDHARJ LAL VYAS : The main question is : [Translation] SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS ; Mr. [English] Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to know Whether any assessment has been made from the hon. Minister the criteria from the annual property statement of for giving loans to the employees and the ofifjcers and employees to find out whether the Adivasls and Harijans are given how many of them own houses but live m some concessions. Many people have no Government accommodation. 19 Orai Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Oral Answers 20
[Translation] Minister of Agriculture does not consider it advisable to have examination of pesti- My question is, therefore, relevant. cides through a reliable agency. Therefore, SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR ; Making there is a lot of adulteration in various an assessment is not the work of our brands of pcsticides and scab in orchards in department. We, of coursc, ascertain Kaohmir and Himachal Pradesh has gone whether the house has been actually on unchecked. But Ihe most important constructed or not. thing is the helth of the people. In view of gas tragedy in Bhopal, will not the Ministry of Agriculture go into the question of production of pcsticides and have the Cbemical Examinatiof) of Pesticides examination of pesticides done centrally ? That is my question. *165. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Win The Minister of AGRICULTURE SHRI BUTA SJNGH : My answer to AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be both the parts a) and (b) of the question pleased to state : was precis. I do not know how the hon. Member can find it controversial, because (a) whether chemical examination of 1 said there is no provision of it with the pesticides supplied by various agencies to Government of India, But when we intro- the States is being done by his Minisiry: duce any pesticide or insecticide, it has to and be brought under the Schedule of the Act operating. The Act that I mentioned ic (b) if so, whether Government have the main part of my answer is Insecticides brought out a report on the brands which Act 1968. The first step of introduction of arc useful or effective for various species insecticides in the country is no bring it of fruits in the country ? in to the Schedule of the Insecticides Act THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE so as to make it within the purview of the AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI act. BLTTA SINGH) ; (a) No, Sir. Most of the State Governments have their own pcsticides This is done by the Central Govern- testing laboratories and can test the sam- ment in the Ministry of Agricuture on ples of materials purchased by them. The the recommendations of the Central Insec- Ministry has been earmarking testing in ticides Board constituted under the Act capacity infovour of States/Union Terri- under the chairmanship of the Director tories not having the same of having inade- General of Health Services, Government of India. Then, Sir, the Board before recom- quate capacity. mending inclusion of that particular agro- (b) No, Sir. However, the compendia chemical in the Schedule, considers the on the approved usages of pesticides regis- merits of cach chemical on the basis of in- tered based on chemical/comm on name formation supplied by the manufacturer under the Insecticides Act, 1968 against or the supplier. This is how an insecticidc pests and diseases of agricultural crops is included in the Schedule. And then, the including fruits have already been brought application goes before the, Registration out. Committee which is also under the Ministry of Agriculture, Government of PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : I do not India.And then, the Registration Committee feel satisfied with the Minister’s answer. after going into various conditions Rather the hon. Minister has raised a mentioned in the Rule itself, registers the larger question. In reponse to my question particular insecticide or pesticide and after whether the Ministry of Agriculture docs that, it is being allowed to be distributed the chemicai examination of pesticides or to be used by the farmers. supplied by various agencies, the Minster has said that the Ministry does not arrange PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : Sir, the chemical examination of pesticides. He says production of these pcsticides is very vital that most of the State Governments have to the agricultural industry. After the their own pesticide testing laboratories. Bhopal tragedy, the Ministry should have Jt seems rather funny that the Union risen to the occasion and examined this 2i Oral Atiswers CHAITRA 4,190? (SAKA) Oral Answers i i question. They have not done. Sir, I raise wherever any malpractice is detected, this question. Will the Minister come for- action is taken under the Act and the warti with an amendment to the Insectici- person is booked. des Act of 1968 to provide for chemical examination of insecticides by the Union I have the figures with me . . , Agriculture Ministry, as also to regulate MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Hon. distribution of these pesticides. There is a lot of corruption. Adulteration brings in Members, I want to make an observation. Making reference to any person in this scab diseases. There is a lot of corruption manner is a short of allegation, I think. in fixing agencies. As is alleged. Agri- Therefore, this part will not go on record. culture Ministers in various States, in organising these agencies, get lot of money. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I did not In my own State, it is the sons of a make any allegation. I made an enquiry. Minister who get these agencics. Does the Minister have latest information on that ? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; Even mentioning name for telling this sort of SHRl BUTA SINGH : Sir. this Act thing is more or less an allegation. is implemented by the respective States and they are authorised to make sample survey. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : I mado They have their own laboratories. In the an enquiry. Let him deny. Central Government, under section 16 of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You art the Insecticides Act have set up a Central mentioning the specific something specific we have two insecticides laboratory ai and this is a sort of allegation. Faridabad with a Branch each at Central Plant Protection Training Institute. Hydera- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ ; It is not bad and the Quarantine Fumigation an allegation. He want to know the fact. Station, Bombay. The Central laboratory ^Interruptions) is extending facility for the analysis of the insecticide samples received from the State SHRI BUTA SINGH : Sir, I was authorities under the earmarking system. giving you the instance. In 1983-84 (prose- cution was launched) in Andhra Pradesh Similarly, the Stales have their own in 40 cases; in Haryana in 40 cases; in testing laboratories which test the insecti- Karnataka in 3 cases; in Maharashtra in cides or pesticidcs supplied to the farmers. 14 cases; In Punjab in 11 cases; in Rajas- Wherever cases of any malpractices detected, than in 25 cases; in Tamil Nadu in 43 proceedings are launched, the people are cases; and in Uttar Pradesh in 23 cases. booked and the punishment is awarded. In all, 199 cases were instituted in the About this particular case of Jammu year 1983-84 on the charges of repor- and Kashmir, if the hen. Member can tedly having supplied the misbranded send me an instance, we can have it look- pesticides or insecticides. ed into. SHRI SOBHANADREESWAJIA RAO : SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : In vew of In view of the fact that adulteration the widespread adulteration of pesticides is going on a large scale and the and also in view of the fact that agencies farmers- are cheated to the extent of Rupees of the pesticides belong to the persons Hundreds of crores in the matter of pesti- from the families of VIPs, will the Govern- cides, will the hon. Minister take some ment agree for double examination of more steps to prevent adulteration in addi- these chemicals by instituting its own tion to the steps or the methods which he machinery ? Does the Minister know has already announced ? that** of Jammu and Kashmir also has MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You can the agency of pesticides ? ask him afterwards. The Question Hour SHRI BUTA SINGH ; Sir, I am is over. sorry, the individual cases cannot be thrown at us like tliis. But as I said,
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This is more or less . (vi) development of small landing and at the same level as the current year and berthing facilities along the coasts will be enhanced later, if required. for traditional and small mechani> sed boats; The schemes to be undertaken during 1985-86 will continue to provide for income (vii) brackishwater fish/prawn farming generating assets to the identified families in Maritime States on area deve- and strengthening of infrastructure neces- lopment basis; sary for better utilisation of these assets. (viii) legislation to demarcate areas of operation for traditional boats, Poverty amongst Fishermen small mechanised boats and large fishing vessels; and ♦169. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (be) welfare schemes such as Group RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to Insurance, Techno-socio-economic state ; survey and National WWare Fund for Fishermen. (a) whether Government are aware of the cases of perennial poverty of fishermen The future schemes for the VUth Plan and constraints faced by them in increas- period are not yet finalised. ing fish production through mechanisation; and Financial A^»tance for Improring Water Supply in Bangalore {b] if so, steps Government have taken in this regard and the future schemes of Government for uplifting the economic *170. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA lYAR : condition of !he fishermen ? Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (a) whether Karnataka Government BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Fishermen has submitted a proposal seeking financial in the traditional Marine Fisheries Sector assistance for Cauvery 111 Stage scheme to are recognised as among the economically improve the water supply position in weaker sections in the country. The State Bangalore city; and and Central/Union Territory Governments (b) if so, the action taken thereon ? have, therefore, been following a policy of supporting this Sector through a number THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND of production-oriented and welfare pro- HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : grammes aimed at uplifting the economic (a) Yes, Sir. condition of the fishermen community. Some of the important programmes in (b) The Government of Karnataka this regard are : proposes to take up the Cauvary water supply scheme Stage III with World Bank (i) supply of essential fishery requi- assistance. This is estimated to cost sites on subsidy/loan basis; Rs. 2400 million. The proposal has been (ii) subsidy on outboard motors, in- examined in the Ministry and found techni- board engines and mechanised cally feasible. The Ministry of Irrigation boats; have made certain observations regarding the need for concurrence of the basin (iii) loan facilities for acquisition of States for any new use of Cauveiy waters. mechanised boats; The Government of Karnataka have been addressed on these issues. They have been (iv) training programmes for fishermen; requested to sort out the issues with the (v) support for production, marketing, Ministry of Irrigation. 27 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 28 Construction of a sector of Mahendra (a) whether a large area of DDA/ Raj Mars by C. P. W. D. in Nepal Government land has been unauthoriscdly occupied by many persons in front of *171. SHRIMATi GEETA Nirman Vihar of Patpar Gaiy Road and MUKHERJEE : Will the Minister of multi-storeyed buildings have been pul up WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to and used for business purpose; and state : (b) the action takan by Government (a) whether the M. R. M. Circle of to prevent occupation of these lands and C.P.W.D. is constructing a sector of also against the present occupants ? Mahendra Raj Marg in Nepal; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (b. if so, the total mileage so far cons- HOUSING SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR) : tructed, the balance which ranjains to be (a) and b). An area measuring about 3 constructed and the period during which acres on West of Patpar Ganj Road the project is expected to be completed; which was included in the land allotted to (c) whether the Ministries of Works and Ministry of Works and Housing Coopara- Housing and External Affairs entered into tive House Building Society is under an agreement with the representatives of unauthorised construction. The DDA the workers on 9 June, 1983 that all has reported that most of these unautho> workers on becoming surplus would be ri»d constructions were pul up prior to offered appointment in C.P.W.D. in 1977 and are, therefore, being considered India; and for regularisation in accordance with the Government policy for regularisation of (d if so, the number of workers accord- unauthorised colonies. Only four fresh ing to each category of post who have unauthorised constructions have taken place become surplus and have been offered on Patpar Ganj Road during 1984 and appointment in India according to para notices to the persons concerned have been 7(v) of the agreement and the number of issued by the DDA. under Section 31(1) workers who have accepted the offer ? of the Delhi Development Act, 1957. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR): Setting up of Pest and Disease (a) Y«, Sir. Sunreillanct' Centres (b) i) total milc.,gt so far construct- ♦173. SHRIMATI JAYANTi PATNAIK: ed 288.293 Km. Will the Minihtcrof AGRICULTRE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (ii) the balance which remains to state : be constructed * 14.207 Km. (a) whether Government have a (iii) the project is expected to be proposal to set up pent and disease surveil- completed by March, 1985. lance ^ centres in the country during the i,c; An agreement was entered into with Seventh Plan; the representatives of the workers which (b) if so, the name of the States where while providing for absorption of surplus such pest and d i^ s e surveillance centres workers also Inter alis provides for payment arc proposed to be set up; of retrenchment compensation to workers who do not get absorbed in India. (c) the names of districts identified in those States; and Cd) The information is being collected and will be laid on the table of the (di the criteria fixed for the opening of House, pest and disease surveillance centra 7 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Unauthorised occupation of Govvrnment AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl land in front of Nirman Vihar BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. It is ♦172. SHRl KAMALNATH : Will proposed to set up 20 Central Plant the Minister of WORKS AND Protcction*cum-Surveillancc Stations and HOUSING be pleased to state : five Co-ordinating Regional Stations in 29 Written Answers CHAITRA 4.1907 (.SAKA) Written Answers 30 addition to the strengthening of existing 19 further rise in the per capita availability of Central Surveillance and 13 Central Plant foodgrains is envisaged through increasing Protection Stations. the country’s production and productivity of various crops like rice, wheat, other (b)and(c). The names of the States cereals and pulses. Strategies for further and districts where these Stations will be increasing the pioduciton and productivity set up are to be finalised after the appro- of foodgrains during the Seventh Five Year val of financial outlays/schcmc by the Plan include timely supply of critical inputs Planning Commission and others concerned such as irrigation, fertilisers, HYV seeds, for the Seventh Plan period. plant protection, etc. Appropriate area (d) The criteria for opening of Central specific programmes, remunerative prices to Pest and Disease Surveillance Stations farmers for their producc, easy availabi- arc : — lity of credit, research support and transfer of technology, etc. are also being provided. (i) Areas prone to pest/disease inci- dencc are given proccdcncc. (ii) The dry land, tribal and backward Parliament Session in South ar«as which are not covered under the Surveillance programme of the *175. SHRI AMARSINGH RATHAWA : State Governments; and SHRI MOHANBHAl PATEL : (iii) Recommendations of the Stale Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY Governments. AFFAIRS be pleased to state : (a) the latest position in regard to Food Production ViS-A-ViS Population holding a Parliament session in South; Growth and ♦174. SHRI SAIFUDDIN (b) if it is not possible to hold a CHOWDHARY : Will the Minister of session in South whether Government will AGRICULTURE AND RURAL consider to hold it in Western Region, DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : particularly in Gujarat in Gandhinagar ? (a) the percentage of growth of food THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- production vis-a-vis population growth; MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H. K. L. B HAG AT) : (a) and (b). At present the (b) if food production is higher, what Government is not thinking to hold any arc the causes of decline in per capita Parliament Session outside Delhi. availability of foodgruins in the country; and Production of Sugarcanc in (c) steps proposed to be taken to bring Maharashtra a balance between the two ? THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE *176. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI PATIL : Will the Minister of FOOD BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to compound growth rales in foodgrains state : production and their net availability (a) whether during the last two years during the period 1970-71 to 1983-84 the production of sugarcane in Maharash- work out to 2.64 and 2.46 per cent tra has been regcistering a decline; per annum respectively. As compared to this, the annual growth rate in popu- (b) if so, the details thereof; and lation during the same period is estimated at 2.27 per cent. This clearly shows that (c) the remedial measures Government the rates of growth of foodgrains produc- are likely to introduce to chcck this declin- tion and their net availability arc higher ing trend, particularly when Maharashtra than the rate of growth of population. is the premier sugar producing State of out country and it is likely so affect her It may, however, be added that a national economy too ? 31 Written Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers 32 THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (b) whether the increase is in conson- aVIL SUPPLIES {RAO BIRENDRA ance with the targets laid; and SINGH) : (a) and (b). Sugarcane produc- (c) if not, the reasons for the defi- tion in Maharashtra during 1982-83 was ciency ? 313.6 lakh tonnes as against 287.8 lakh tonnes in 1981-82. During 1983-84, the MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE production was 265.5 lakh tonnes. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (c) Climatic conditions have been BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). Under the primarily responsible for shortfall in Integrated Rural Development Programme production during 1983-84. Suga.rcanc fIRDP), against a target of assisting 15 development programmes are undertaken million households below the poverty line by the State Government. In addition to in the Vlth Plan, up to January 1985, 15,4 other steps, the Maharashtra Government million families had already been assisted. have been advising the cooperative sugar The impact of the programme in terms factories to develop cane in their respec- of increase in the income would be tive areas. Similarly, efforts are being available when the evaluation report on made for the devlopment of cane in other IRDP, under preparation by the Pro- factory areas. gramme Evaluation Organisation of the Intensive sugarcane development Planning Commission will be out. measures advocated include : [English] (a) production and distribution of Production and Import of Chemical quality seed. Fertilizera (b) demonstration of improved prac- *178, SHRI N.V. RATNAM ; Will the tices of cane cultivation both for Minister of AGRICULTURE AND plant and ratoon cane. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (c) plant protection measures. slate ; (d) training of cane development (a) the chemical fertilize produced In workers. the .country and imported from other countries during each of the last three (e) construction of link roads. years; and (b) the method of distribution of such [Transtation] chemical fertilizers ? Increase in the Incwne of Persons Ltrliig THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE below Poverty Line AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) A statement is *177. SHRI DILEEP SINGH attached. BHURIA : Will the Minister of AGRI- CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP- (b) The fertilizers are made available MENT be pleased to state : to the farmers, through the Institutional and Cooperative agencies of the States and (a) the percentage of increase in the through the private dealers net work of incomc of persons living below poverty manufacturers and distributors, gaainst the line during the Sixth Five Year Plan as a allocations made bl the Central Govern- result of Integraten Rural Development ment to each State/Union Territory/ Programme being operated iD the country; Commodity Boards 33 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 3i Statement Indigenous Production and Import of Chemical Fertilizers (!n Lakh Tonnes Of Nutrients) Year Indigenous Production Import Nitrogen Phosphorous Potash Nitrogen Phosphorous Potash 1981-82 31.44 9.49 — 10.54 3.43 6.44 1982-83 34.24 9.80 — 4.25 0.63 6.44 1983-84 34.85 10.48 — 6.56 1.43 5.56 Impiemeiimtioii of L*iid ConsoUdalion 3. Besides the regular programme of Programme in Orissa consolidation, consolidation of 2,03,642 hectares hes also been done till August, • 179. SHRT SOMNATHRATH : Will 1983 under the Orissa Irrigation Project, the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Phase-I (International Development r u r a l development be pleased to Association assisted). This area was in state ; * the major commands of Mahanadi Delta (a) whether Government are aware that Stage-I, Stage-II» Heerakud and Salandi. the problem of fragmcniation of agricultural The details of expenditure on consolida- holding is very acute in Orissa; tion are not available. However, the entire credit of US $ 58.00 million was fully (b) if so, the assistance extended by the drawn by October, 1983 for the irrigation Centre to help the State Government to project. As a follow-up to the phase-I implement the Consolidation Programmes of the project, agreement for credit assis- in that State during each of the last three • tance of US $ 105.00 millions was signed on years; and 16.9.1983. It is expected that the entire credit would be drawn by 31.12.1987. As (c) the details of the steps proposed to on 31.12.1984,credit of US $18,896 millions be taken for the successful working of land has been utilized. This Phase-ll provides consolidation scheme in Orissa ? for consolidation of about 1 ,^,000 hectares THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE of irrigated land located in the Heerakud, AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Salandi and Mohanadi Della system. The BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c).No separate programme was taken up from October, assistance for the consolidation of holding 1983 to be completed within our years, scheme has been provided during the last i.e., upto 1986-87 at the rate of 40,000 three years under the plan. The conso- hectares per year. lidation of holding scheme, being a plan scheme of the State, has been fiaanced out 4. In case of externally aided project of overall plan assistance given to the being implemented by the State, Govern- State. ment of India {Department of Expenditure) 2. The actual expenditure on the provides additional central assistance to consolidation of holding scheme under the the States on the basis of 70% of the aid State Plan has been as follows :— disbursed. However, the adbitional central assistance is released for the project as a Year Expenditure whole, of which consolidation scheme is (in lakh Rs.) only one component. Separate figure for consolidation scheme would, therefore, not 1981-82 519.61 be available. 1982-83 500.00 1983-84 477.37 5. Since it is essentially a State Plan The provision during 1984-85 is Rs. I: Scheme, details would only be availably 490 lakhs. V^ith the State Govcmmeot, %S Written Ar^wers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 36 Fiiuuicial Assistance by HUDCO to Baroda scheme-wise and the number of houses Municipal CorporatioR built or proposed to be built for weaker sections of the people ? *180. SHRI R. P. GAEKWAD : Will ..Ihe Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND be pleased to state : HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) ; (aj the amount of financial assistance (a) No housing scheme has been submitted provided by HUDCO to the Baroda by the Baroda Municipal Corporation to Municipal Corporation during the last HUDCO during the last two years. 2 years for various housing schemes for » weaker sections, scheme-wise; (b) The scheme for the year 1985-86 as and when received from the Baroda (b) the amount of financial assistance Municipal Corporation will be considered -proposed to be provided to Baroda for financing by HUDCO. Municipal Corporation during the financial year 1985-86; and (c) The details of the housing schemes of Baroda Mudicipal Corporation sanc- (c) details of financial assistance asked tioned by HUDCO upto the year 1981 for by the Baroda Municipal Corporation, are contained in the attached statement. Statempnt S. No. Date of Name of Project Loan Contents Remarks ' Sanction Scheme Cost Amount (Rs. in Lakhs) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 I. 31.7.72 Tulsivadi 10.84 6.373 120 EWS Scheme Housing Scheme 10 Oth. Completed, Ph-I» Baroda. 2. 15.1.73 *MIG Housing 71.97 59.40 204 MIG Scheme Colony at 16 Oth. Completed, Budhadav, Baroda. 3. 27.9.73 EWS Housing 4.99 3.228 70 EWS Scheme at Tulsivadi, • Completed. Baroda Ph-II. 4. 22.11.73 EWS and LIG 79.915 64.09 232 EWS Scheme Housing at ' 352 LIG Completed. Tarsali Baro^ • 9 Ph-1 5. 19.22.74 EWS and LIG 113.33 91.53 298 EWS Scheme Housing Scheme 332 U G Completed. Ph-n Tarsali* 32 Oth. Baroda 15. 25.11.75 Harni Housing 99.47 32.96 344 EWS Scheme Scheme, 300 LIG Completed. Baroda 42 MIG 7, 30.3.76 Housing Scheme 47,43 37.26 257 LIG Scheme ii at Tarsal i 12 Oth. Completed, f>h-pI^Barod^ 3*7 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8. 30,11.76 Low Cost 11.83 9.73 9 0th. Schcme Housing Compe- 200 EWS Completed, tition Schcme Baroda. * 9. 16.2.77 LIG Houses in 120.24 92.85 668 LIG Scheme Tarsali Housing Completed. Sdieme Ph-IV Baroda. 10. 16.2.77 LIG Houses 54.00 41.70 300 LIG Schcme . under Urbcn Withdrawn Development by the Scheme of dist. Corporation Centre Akota, Baroda 11. 4.6.81 50 MIG II 14.69 10.50 50 MIG. II 30 Units Housing at in progress Tandelja Baroda II f . 12. 4.6,81 60 MIG/Housing 16.35 11.84 60 MIG. 11 All units at Tandelja, in progress Baroda 0 13. 4.6.81 LIG Housing 19.32 15.08 126 LIG All units at Tandelja in progress 14. 12.6.81 MIG Housing 33.31 24.32 108 MIG All units at Harni. 1 community in progrcfts Baroda Hall ' • Relief to the Workers of Closed and Lock^ this is a major polioy matter and my require out Units In the Country involvement of both the workers and the 852. SHRI BAJU BAN RIYAN ; Will the employers, it well require detailed exami- Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : nation in consultation with the interests ‘I concerned. (a) whether there is any proposal to give relief to the workers of closed and lock-out industrial units/mills/factories Setting up of New Agricultare UniversUIes in the country; 853. SHRI SU0HIR ROY : Will the (b) if so, when and the salient features Minister of AGRICULTURE AND of the said scheme or proposal; RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to (c) steps so far taken by Government state : in this regard; and (a) whether there is any proposal to (d) if not, the reasons thereof ? set up new agriculture universiti^ in the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE country; MINISTERY OF LABOUR : (SHRI T. (b) if so, when and names of those ANJIAH) : (a) to (d). Suggestions have been places; and made from time to time for introducing a scheme providing insurance cover to (c) progress made so far in this regard workers during lockouts and closures. As and details thereof ? %9 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 WrltUn Answers 40 THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE in the general quality of Campa Cola and AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl other aerated drinks being jold in Delhi. BUTA SINGH) : (a) No. Sir. There is no proposal to setup any more State Samples of the various soft drinks ar* taken and analysed from time to time and Agricultural Universiliw in the country. appropriate action taken wherever neces- However, the Government is considering the possibility of setting up a Central sary to ensure that the products conform to the standards laid down. Agricultural Univerity in the North Eastern * Hill Region. [Translation] (b) The location of the Central Agri- cultural University in the North Eastern Subsidy for lostallatlon of TabfsWells HiU R ^ od has not yet been decided. (c) A draft Project proposal set-up a 855. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRA_SAD Central Agricultural University in the SINGH ; WiU the Minister of AGRICUL- North Eastern Hill Region, for considera- TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT tion by the various Government agencies, be pleased to state : is under preparation. (a) whether Government are giving * subsidy for installing tube-wells for Deterioration In Quality of Soft Drinks irrigation; in Delhi (b) if so, the percentage of subsidy 854. SHRI ZULFIQUAR ALI KHAN : being given to different categories of Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL peasants; and SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) the time taken in granting subsidy (a) whether Government are aware that from the date of sanction of loan by a the quality of Campa Cola and other bank and the start of irrigation work from coloured drinks of soft variety in Delhi has the tube-wells ? gone down considerably in the recent past; and THE MINISTER 5 f AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ' (b) if so, remedial measures taken by BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Subsidy Government to ensure manufacture of is given to Small and Marginal Farmers good quality aerated water especially by for minor irrigation works like installation units situated in Delhi ? of tube-wells under the Centrally Spon- THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND sored scheme of assistance to small and CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA marginal farmers for increasing agricultural production. SINGH) : (a) and (b). Analysis of samples carried out in the Food Analysis Labora- (b) Subsidy is being provided on IRD tory of the Department of Food during pattern to different categories of peasants 1984-85 does not indicate deterioration as indicated below : Category of . - Subsidy admissible r peasants 1 (i) Small Farmers 25% subject to a ceiling of Rs, 3,000’ (Rs. 4,000 in case of DPAP areas). t ' ■ (ii) Marginal Farmers 33J% subject to a ceiling of Rs. 3,000 (Rs. 4,000 in case of DPAP areas). (iii) Scheduled Tribe 50% subject to a ceiling of Rs. 5,000. Farmers 41 Written Answers CHA1TRA4, 1907 (^AKA) Written Answers 42 (c) Government of India and Slate (e) A few cases where the workers have Governments arc taking all possible steps claimed Extended Sickness benefit for for immediate release of subsidy soon specified long term diseases on the basis after the loan is sanctioned by the Banks. of their previous contributions are under State Governments have been advised to examination and will be paid, if admissible. give preference in providing electricity connections to Small and Marginal Data on Rural and Urban Employment Farmers for commissioning of the Tube- wells. . 858. SHRI N. DENNIS; Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: [EngUsh\ (a) whether there is any proposal ESI Piiymcnts to the Employees of under the consideration of Government M/s. Wiaskar Textile Mill Ltd., for compilation of data on ruj'al and urban Jharsuguda (Orissa) unemployment so as to evolve a new strategy for increasing employment; 856. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : SHRI ANANDA PATHAK : (b) whether Government have planned for evolving/drawing up model programmes Will the Minister of LABOUR be for employment creation; pleased to state : (c) if so, the details in this regard ? (a) whether about 3000 workers of Bhaskar Textile Mills Ltd. Jharsugada THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (Orissa) are jobless due to lockout of this MINISTRY' OF LABOUR (SHRI T* mill since 2 October, 1982; ANJIAH) : (a) No, Sir. (b) and (c). The Approach Paper to the (b) whether these workers have applied Seventh Five Year Plan (1985-90) states for ESI payments from the Employees that the generation of gainful employment State Insurance Corporation, Jharsuguda; through integration of the sectoral produc- (c) whether the Employees State tion plans with employment plans and Insurance Corporation is refusing to make enlargement of on-going employment the payments; programmes under a National Employment Programme to cover specific target groups (d) if so, the reason for non-payment; will be emphasized in the Seventh Plan. and Employment Schemes will aim at the (e) whether Government are taking steps creation of durable assets, skill formation to settle the claims of workers of Bhaskar and generation of permanent and continu- Textile Mills in view of their unemploy- ing employment with progressively ment ? increasing income levels. In addition, the schemes will continue to promote self- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE employment in economically viable activi- MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T.. ties, backed up by the requisite training, ANJIAH) : (a) Yes, Sir. credit, marketing and orgaQisational linkages. (b) Yes, Sir. Some of the insured workers had applied for payment of cash Shortage of Vanaspati benefits. (c) and (d). The insured workers who 859. SHRI C. D. GAMIT : Will the were eligible for cash benefits on the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL basis of contributions paid before the SUPPLIES be pleased to state : lockout have been paid the banefits (a) whether there has been shortage of admissible to them. The workers who vanaspati due to non-availability of oil; were not eligible for cash benefit due to Don-fulfilraent of the contributory condi- (b) whether vanaspati and palm oil tion have not been paid the benefits IB being packed in 4 kg. tins and smaller claimed by them. . packages are not available; and 9 43 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 4 4 (c) if so, the steps Government have taken main programmes for providing employ- to make available suitable small packings ment in rural • areas which are being of vanaspati anJ palm oiJ during the implemented by this Ministry, namely, the festival season ? National Rural Employment Programme (NREP) and the Rural Laxidl^s Employ- THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND ment Guarantee Progranimc (RLEGP). CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Under the NREP, an amount of SINGH) ; (a) In the recent past,- there Rs. 230.0 crores has been allocated as has not been any shortage of vanaspati central share for implemention of the and the availability of oiJ to the industry programme during the current financial is satisfactory. year and the State Governments are (b) and (c). It is not correct to say that required to provide an equivalent amount Vanaspati and imported palm oil (pal- as their matching share. The RIEGP molein) are being packed in 4 kg. tins only. which seeks to improve and expand Vanaspati is being packed in small packs employment opportunities for the rural of i kg. pouch, 1 kg. pouch \ kg poly jair, landless has been provided an amount of 2 kg. tin and poly jar and 5 kg. tin and Rs. 400 crores in the budget for 1984-85. poly jar. (b) and (c) The NREP and the RLEGP In so far as packing of palm- oil (pal- are being implemented in all the States. In molem) is concerned, it was being the NREP the States share expenditure on marketed in 4 kg. and 2 kg, packs. a matching basis while the RLEGP is fully However,, with effect from 1.6.1984, 5 kg, funded by the Central Government. In 2kg, 1 kg and ^ kg packs have also been addition to these schemes the only signifi* introduced to suit the requirement of cant State scheme which guarantees different categories of consumers. This employment in rural areas is the scheme is in operation in 18 States and 4 Maharashtra Employment Guarantee Union Territories where these packs arc Scheme. This scheme provides guarantee handed over to agencies nominated by of employment for unskilled manual State Governments to sell them through labour. The budget provisio-n for this Fair Price Shop»s/coopcrative outlets. scheme during 1984-85 is Rs. 124.81 According to Package Commodity crores. The target for generating Rules, 4 kg. packs have been disconti- employment during 1984-85 under the nued. NREP and RLEGP is 309.13 and 300.0 million m and^s respectively. The target Jobs for Landless Labourers regarding employment generation under 860. SHRl LAKSHMAN MALLICK : State schemes is not monitored at the Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Central Government level. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : Production and Requirement of Seeds (a) the amount allocated for providing employment in rural areas, particularly 861. SHPU G. VUAYA RAMA RAO : for providing jobs to the landless labourers Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE during the current financial year; AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to stale ; (b) whether some States have also announced that they have made plans to (a) whether there has been massive give jobs to every man for a certain increase in improved seeds in the country period; and notably by National Seeds Corporation (c) if so, the amount provided for and if so, details thereof; employment genefation and the num- (b) the quantum of these seeds (breeder, ber of persons likely to get jobs during foundation and certified) produced the current financial year ? and marketed by National Seeds Corpo- THE MINISTER OF AGPJCULTURE ration which were exported during each AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI of the last three years and incomc accured BUTA SINGH) : (a) There are two therefrom; 45 Written Answers CHAITR^ 907 iSAKA) Written Answers 46 (c) whether Goverrimcnl have worked Quantity Value out annual optimum national needs for (Lakh Quintals) (Rs. in crores) every crop/plantation grown in the country on the basis of present cropping Cereals 42.82 193.25 pattern; and Pulses 3.93 30.17 Oilseeds 8.04 81.67 (d) if so, details thereof including total Fibre Crops ‘ 1.08 9.91 value of seeds ? Potato 29.13 42.24 THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- TOTAL 85.00 357.24 TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) ; (a) Yes Sir. National Seeds Corporation produced 6,78,398 quintals of breeder, foundation Production and Export of Oranges and cerlttied seeds in 1983-84 as against 5,15,601 quintals produced during 863. SHRI GADADHAR SAHA : 1980-81. The estimated production Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE during 1984-85 of these seeds is 11,53,975 AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : quintals. . (b) National Seeds Corporation has (a) names of theorange producing not exported any quantity of breeder seed. States in the country; However, the quantity of seeds (founda- (b) total quantity of oranges produced tion and certified and its value exported in those Slates during the last three years, by the National Seeds' Corporation during year-wise and State-wise details thereof; last three years is as under ; and Year Quantity Value (c) the demand of oranges in the inter- (Quintals) (Rs. Lakhs) national market and export of oranges during the above mentioned period ? 1981-82 29.093.98 118.57 1982-83 603.46 2.86 THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- 1983-84 25,907.04 138.11 t u r b a n d r u r a l DEVELOPMEMT 1984-85 72,394.00 436.29 (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) Oranges ar« (upto 2/85) produced almost in all rhe States. The important States are Andhra Pradesh (c) and (d). The Government of India Assam, Kerala, Karnataka Maharashtra* have worked out annual seed requirements Madhya Pradesh, Orissa add West Bengal! of difTcrent crops on the basis of reco- mended seed replacement rates. The seed (b) Authentic figures on production of requirements, thus, worked out for 1985-86 oranges are not available. However, the is 85.00 lakh quintals. The estimated production of citrus including oranges in value of the seed would be Rs. 357.24 these States have been roughly estim ated crores. The details are as under : as follows *— Estimated Production 000’ Tonnes. Name of the State 1980-81 1981-82 1982-83 1. Andhra Pradesh 391 ' 391 391 2, Assam 66 70 73 3. Kerala 30 30 30 4. Karnataka 372 384 393 5. Maharashtra 145 145 145 6. Madhya Pradesh* 108 112 113 34 39 7. Orissa 29• 28 2H 8. West Bengal 1 26 47 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 48 (c) The international trade in citrus antennae for a large number of channel including oranges is to the tune of 52 lakh by all consumers. They also use more tonnes. The exports of oranges from India sophisticated and costlier TV receivers, during 1980-81 to 1982-83 are given with electronic tuners, programmeable below : channel selection switchers and remote control devices. Year Quantity Value (c) No change in the iransmissicn is (Tonnes) (Rs. in lakhs) necessary to enable use of a single antenna system. 1980-81 7090 127 1981-82 7124 135 Grant of Selection Grade to 1982-83 1015 17.09 C.P.W.D. Staff (Upto Nov ’82) 865. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH : Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to stale : Additicnal Antenna for Second Channel on T.V. (a) whether the Director General of Works, CPWD has prepared and circulat- 864. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD ed to all concerned the all India senio- SETHI : Will the Minister of INFOR- rity lists of regular transferred category MATION AND BROADCASTING be staff and isolated staff for purposes pleased to state : of confirmation and grant of selection grade; and (a) whether additional antenna and change over switch have to be installed in (b) if not, the reasons therefor ? the second channel T.V. plan; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (b) whether in Hong Kong, Manila, HOUSING (SHRIA BDUL GHAFOOR) ; London and New York only a flick of (a) All India seniority/eligibility lists for channel selector or remote control changes confirmation in the categories of Lift the channel and they all use only one Operators and Chowkidars have been antenna; and issued. In rcspect of other categories lists are under preparation. (c) whether Government propose to modify transmission so that only one Eligibility lists are generally not issued antenna of a new design, should serve the for grant of Selection Grade, The Selection purpc^, not only for the two channels Grade posts are distributed among but also for any additional channels com- regions and appointments to selection missioned at a later date ? grade are made from eligible employees THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE as per guidelines. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (b) Docs not arise. BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) Two TV channels at Delhi Import of Acids by S.T.C. operate in VHF Band I and Band III 866. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE : r«pectively. Use of separate antennae Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL for the two channels operating in different SUPPLIES be pleased to state: bands is available for obtaining best results. This also became necessary as (a) whether solvent fextiaction . units TV receivers in use were equipped with in the country have suffered hcalily due antenna cut to specific channel. However, to large scale imports of fatty acids by a single broadband antenna can be S.T.C.; and , used. (b) if so, what steps are being taken to (b) Many advanced countries have protect the units from closure ? introduced a central reception and distri- bution within an apartment block over THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND QVIL cables to avoid ghosts in TV pictures and SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : a Iso installation of clusters of individual (a) and (b). As per information availably 49 Written Ajiswers CHAITRA 4. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers Xi with the Directorate of Vanaspati, Vege- (iv3 The National Film table Oils and Fats, the overall capacity Corporation has entered into ^o-produ^,** utilisatioo of the solvent extraction units tion agreement for two documentaries to in the past 3 years has been as under : be produced for the Festival of India, The first is a television series entitled: “Asia : State Centre”, consisting of Per cent capacity utilization Year three segments. The Second is a documcD* tary film being produced by tl\e Metro* 1982 51.4 politan Museum of Art on its exhibition 1983 46.0 India’. ’ 1984 57.0 (v) National Public Radio of the United States would broadcast a 5 point It may be seen that the capacity utilisa- series entitled ‘Karnatak Music Traditior* tion has improved in 1984, although there during the Festival of India. was some decline in this regard in 1983. • (vi) Doordarshan will make selection Meeting of the Indo-\merican Joint of plays out of the American Playhouw Committee on Films and programmes. ' Broadcasting (vii) The Indian side will depute f( 867. SHRIMATI MADHURI SINGH : producer to United States to study the Will the Minister of INFORMATION production of science programme, for AND BROADCASTING be pleased to radio and TV broadcasts. Statet : (viii), Co-production in the field of (a) whether the eighth meeting of the Radio will continue between India and Indo-American Joint Committee on Films America. and Broadcasting was held in New Delhi recently; and Mariculture practice to increase Fish and Prawn Production (b) if so, the details of the discussion held ? 868. SHRI K. PRADHANt : WiU tho Minister of AGRICULTURE AND t h e m i n i s t e r OF STATE OF THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased tp MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND state : BROADCASTING (SHRl V.N. GADGIL) (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether Government have formu^* ted any plan to bring most potential arcM (b) Following important decisions were of tlie maritime States in the country under taken in the Joint Meeting on Films and the mariculture practice to increase prawn Broadcasting :— and fish production; (i) Exhibition of American video pro- (b) if so, the details thereof; ductions in selected places in India later this year. The video exhibition will dis- (c) the areas to be brought unde? play types of uses to which video is being mariculture practice in Orissa; and’ " increasingly put not only in Television, children’s programme etc. but also for (d) when the work Is likely to start T medical, management and other educa- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE tional uses. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl (ii) Exhibition of Indian films during BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. * the Festival of India to be held in America. Films will be shown in 12 (b) A Centrally Sponsored Scheme for different cities over 12 ?nonths period. development of 1500 hectares forbrackish- water fish/prawn farming in the country (iil) Possibility of direct satellite tale- on area development basis is in operatkin cast of the inaugural function of Festival since 1982. Under the Scheme, one half of India, to one hectare of the developed ppnds 51 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers ' 52 envisaged to be allotted to each fisherman Popularity of Rasika Fruit Juice family for culture of fish and prawn. 870. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN : . (c) An area of 448 hectares for which Will the Minister of FOOD AND OVIL sanctions have been issued by the Govern- SUPPLIES be pleased to state : ment will be brought under the Brackish- water fish and prawn culture. (a) whether the fruit juice ‘RASIKA’ is becoming increasingly popular; (d) A Fish Farm covering about 16 Kectares sanctioned in November, 1983 is (b) what is its total production at reported to have been completed. Work present; in other areas sanctioned in March, 1985 i# yet to commence. (c) whether Government propose to set up more plants in order to increase its production; and Maricultnre Practice in West Bangal (d) if so, the details thereof ? 869. SHRI SANAT KUMAR THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND MANDAL : Will the Minister of AGRJ- CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP- SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. MENT be pleased to state : ;■ (b) The total production during the - whether Government propose to period April, 1984 to 13 March, 1985 is step up annual production of fish and 134.88 lakh units of 200 ml. each. prawn from mariculture practice, parti- cularly in the estuarine areas of West (c) and (d). A proposal to set up more Bengal; if so, its broad outlines; such plants is under consideration of Modem Food Industries (India) Ltd., a (b) whether some areas in Sunderbans public sector undertaking of the Ministry. in W ^t Bengal are also likely to be brought under this maricultute practice; Relay of Delhi Television Programme in if so, the details thereof; and different parts of the Country ‘ (c) the role proposed to be assigned 871. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will to the State Government under this plan the Minister of INFORMATION AND of maritime activities ? BROADCASTING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE fa) whether the Delhi Television AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Programmes are being relayed to all the BUTA SINGH) : (a) A Centrally recently set up transmission centres in .Sponsored Scheme for development of different parts of the country; ^ >^500 hectares for brackishwater fish/prawn ' farming in the country on area develop- (b) whether in these relay programmes ment basis is in operation since 1982. the content in the respective regiona I Under the Scheme, one half to one hectare languages is nil; and of the developed ponds is envisaged to be (c) if so, the steps being taken to ■ ' allotted to each fisherman family for introduce programmes in the respective culture of fish and prawn. regional languages of different States ? (b) An area covering about 28 hectares THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR 'in the Sunderbans of West Bengal, has jbeen sanctioned by the Government for INFORMATION AND BROAD- development of brackishwater fish farms CASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) The National Programme put out by to culture fish and prawn. Doordarshan Kendra, Delhi is relayed by (c) -Government of West Bengal have all the TV transmitters in the country. In to identify more sites to formulate viable addition, programmes produced by Door- project reports and also provide 50% of darshan Kendra, Delhi are relayed, in full ^' the estimated cost in their budget for or in part, by all the transmitters in the ' consideration of the proposal by the network, including the relay transmitters T government. set up during 1984-85, 53 Writteti Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 54 (b) No, Sir. (b) the number of vacancies of doctors, nurses, para-medical and other staff in (c) Implementation of schemes enabl- these hospitals lying vacant for over ing relay of TV programmes in the (i) six months and (ii) one year and reasons (regional) languages of various States by for not filling the same; and all the transmitters in the respective States will depend upon availability of resources (c) the actual requirements of these in future. hospitals in respect of doctors, nurses and other staff ? ESI Hospitals THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRJ T. 872. SHRI ANAND SINGH : Will ANJIAH) : (a) A statement giving the the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to required information is annexed state : (Statement I). (a) the number, bed capacity and (b) and (c). The information is being location of hospitals working under the obtained and will be laid on the Table of Employees State Insurance Scheme; the House. Statement SI. No. Name of Hospital No. of beds 1 2 ' 3 Andhra Pradesh 1. ESI Hospital Adoni 50 2. »> Sripurkagazanagar 110 3. »» Hyderabad 310 4. Vijayawada 110 5. Visakhapatnam 110 6. >> Warangal 50 Bihar 7. Dalmianagar 72 8. Maithon 110 9. Monghyr 30 10. f » Phulwarisharif 50 11. Adityapur 50 Dlebi 12. Basaidarapur . 400 Gujarat ' 4 13. *> Bapunagar (Ahmedabad) 500 Si Written Answers MARCH 25» 1985 Written Answers 56 1 2 3 14. ESI Hospital Naroda 225 15. „ Baroda 200 16. „ Kalol 50 17. „ Rajkot 50 18. „ Rajpur Hirpur (Ahmedabad) 50 19. „ Surat 150 Haryana “20. „ Faridabad 188 21. „ Panipat 75 22. „ Yamunanagar 80 23. «, Dandtli 50 24. » Mangalore 60 25. „ Rajajinagar (Bangalore) 420 26. „ Mysore 100 Kerala 27. „ Alleppey 55 28. ,1 Asramam 115 29. „ Emakulam 65 30. „ Ezhukone 150 31. „ Mulakunathakavu 110 (TB) 32. Paripally 100 33. „ Peroorkada 75 34. „ Trichur 90 35. „ Udyogmandal 150 36. „ Vadvathur 65 Madhya Pradesh 37. >, Gwalior 75 * 38. »t Indore (General) 150 39. „ Indore (TB) 75 40. „ Ujjain 100 57 Written Answers CH/VITRA 4, 1907 (5 ^ ^ ^ ) Written knswers 5o Maharashtra €50 41. Hospital Andheri (Bombay) 410 42. 99 Aundh (Poona) 650 43. *9 Kandivalli (Bombay) 44. 9» Muland (Bombay) 650 45. 99 M. G. M. (Bombay) 700 46. 99 Nagpur 200 47. 99 Ulhasnagar (Bombay) 200 48. 99 Washi (Bombay) 650 550 49. H Worli (Bombay) 50. 99 Thane (Bombay) 632 51. 99 Brajrajnagar 50 88 52. 99 Choudwar 53. 99 Jaykaypur 25 50 54. f9 Kansabahal Pondicherry 50 55. 99 Pondicherry Punjab 125 56. 99 Amritsar 57. • 9 Jullundur 80 58. 99 Ludhiana 100 Rajasthan 59. 99 Jaipur 139 60. 99 Kota 60 Tamil NMdu 61. 99 Coimbatore 500 62. 9» Madras 625 63. 99 Madurai 202 64. 91 South Madras 500 155. Vellore !$0 Written Ansv^ers" MARCH 25,-1985 Written Answer 6a 1 2 3 • Uttar Pradesh 66. ESI Hospital Kanpur (General) 212 67. Kanpur (Chest) 180 68. » 5 Kanpur (Children) 144 69. Modinagar 100 70. Naini (Allahabad) 100 Lucknow 71. II ” 100 72. Ghaziabad 100 73. Agra 100 West Bengal 74. Asansol 150 75. Bally 150 76. > > Baltikuri-Bankura 416 77. Gaurhati 216 78. > > Budge-Budge 300 79. 99 Kalyani 266 80. Kumarhatti 175 81. Manicktolla 500 82. Sealdah 250 83. Serampore 216 84. > > Ulubcria 216 85. >5 Bandel (TB) 250 Total beds 17.102 Implementation of Food for (c) if not, reasons for non-implemcnta* Work Programme tion ? 873. SHRl NARSINGRAO SURYA- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE WANSHI : Will the Minister of AGRI- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP- BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (c). The Food MENT be pleased to state : for Work Programme was implemented (a) whether "Food for Work Pro* from 1977-78 and covered the entire gramme” has been implemented by country. It was replaced by the National Karnataka; Rural Employment Programme from Octobcr, 1980 i (b) if so, its success, particularly in backward areas of the State; and (b) Evaluation study of the Food fox 51 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 62 Work Programme undertaken by the Pro- (d) The report of the Central Team gramme Evaluation Organisation of the was considered and sanction for Rs. Planning Commission revealed that the 542.85 lakhs was issued on the 26th programme made a favourable impact on February, 1985, as ceiling of Central the life and living condition of the village assistance for the drought relief during community in terms of employment and 1984-85. income. Further, out oi‘ the persons provided with employment 42 per cent (e) and (f). The Government of Rajasthan started the relief operation as were Scheduled Castes and 13 cent early as December, 1984. Employment were Scheduled Tribes. generation which is a part of the drought relief has been going on in full swing and [Translation] during February, 2,15,119 persons were under employment under NREP, RLEGP Assistance to Drought Affccted and other works. The arrangements for Areas of Rajasthan supply of drinking water in rural and urban areas, supply of fodder of the cattle gratuitous relief, etc., have also been taken 874. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER on hand by the State Government, JAIN : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : [English] (a) whether Government of Rajasthan Setting up of Low Power T.V. • had submitted a report to Central Transmitters Government regarding the famine and scarcity conditions in various districts of 875. PROF. NARAIN CHAND the state and if so, when; PARASHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- (b) whether copies of the report will ING be pleased to state : be laid on the Table of the House; (a! whether any low power TV Trans- (c) whether a study team had also mitters, have been set up during the last submitted its report two months ago after 3 years in the country; an on-the-spot study of the situation; (b) if so, the names of the places, (d) if so, the reasons for not providing State-wise, where these have been set up assistance to the State Government by the during each of the last 3 years; Centre so far; (c) whether any more proposals for (e) whether relief operations have not opening such transmitter in some other been started by Rajasthan Government in parts of the States are still pending with the affected districts so far; and Government; and i (f ) is so, the time by which the relief (d) if so, the names of such places, operations will be started there ? State-wise and the likely dates by which these would be set up ? THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRJ MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BUTA SINGH) : (a) The Government BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. of Rajasthan submitted a Memorandum GADGIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. on 28th December, 1984, requesting Central assistance for drought relief. (b) A statement is attached. (c) Yes, Sir. (b) No, Sir. (d) State-wise names of places where (c) The Central Team visited the State low power transmitters (LPTs) are being during 16.L1985 to 21.1,1985 and submit- set up and the likely months of their ted its report subsequently. commissioning arc given below :— 63 Written A^V(er$^ MARCH J5 ,1985 Written ^ State LPT Centre Likely Month of Commissicminj 1 2 3 1, Bihar 1. DARBHANGA June, 1985 2. BETTIAH — do—' Z Jammu and POONCH — do— Kashmir (To be subsequently replaced by HPT) 3, Madhya Pradrah 4. KOREA —do— 5. SINORAULl —do— 4. Manipur ■ 6. UKHRUL July, 1985 5. Tamil Nadu 7. NEYVEU Jfine, 1985 6, Assam 8. JORHAT ' December, 1986 9. DIPHU 7. Nagaland 10. Dimapur December, 1986 Arunachal U . Tezu ’ ft IVadesV 12. PASSIGHAT^ Pecembgr, 19f6 Stateiqeiit LBTs set up during the last 3 years as on 25.3.85 Statc/UT LfTs S9t up LPTs set LPTs set up during 1982-83 up during during 1984-S5 1983-84 1 2 3 4 Assam Gaufaati Tezpur (Since replaced Dibrugarh by HPT) Siichar Andhra Lakinada -- Tirpathi Pradesh Nellorc Cuddaph % i;^ riru n a ^ 65 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 Written Ansy^erg 66 Visakhapatfiam Nizamabad Warangal Rajamundry Kuroool Anantpur Adorn Mehboobnagar ,jt. Bihar Patna Gaya Since replaced Munger by HPT (1 KW) Dhanbad Jamshedpur Pumia • * ■ Bhagalpur Gujarat Vadodara Surat Bhavnagar Patan Bharuch Navasari ’ - Dwarka Haryana Hissar add Bhlwani Himachal Pradesh Simla Kulu Jammu and Kashmir Jammu Leh Kargil a K.arnataka Mangalore Devangero phadravati 0$53+ Writ4eti %0 9A8 %LMDSXU %HOODU\ *DGDJ%HWJDUL 5DLFKXL 'KDUZDG 0\VRUH %HOJDXP +RVSHW .HUDOV 7ULYDQGQXQ &DOLFXW 6LQFHUHSODFHG &RFKLQ E\ +37 .: &DQQDQRUH 3DOJKDW 0DGK\D3UIGFI-E %KRSDO *ZDOLRU -DEDOSXU ,QGRUH %LODVSXU 6LQFHUHSODFHG E\ +37V 6DJDU 3RZ 5DWODP 0XUZDUD %XUKDQSXU 0DQLSXU ,PSKA 0FAOD\D 6KLOORQJ 7XUD 0DEDUDVKWUD $NROD 1DVLN W .ROKDSXU $KIO0GQDJDU -DOQD $XUDQJDEDG 'KXOH /DWXU $PUDYDWL 6KROVSXU 6$ Afi sw&^s CH A ttkA 4 ,i9 m m K A ) i^rf«n Atirmf^s tO Parbhani Chandrapur Handed Jalgaon Gondiya Sangli Malegooii Bhixsawai NagalailQ Kohima Orissa Bhubaneshwar - Behrampur (Since disconti- Rourkela nued as town covered Koraput by HPT Cuttack Punjab Bhatinda Pathankol Rajasthan Suratgarh Ganganagar Jodhpur Udaipur Kota Alwar Khetri BilkAnor BhitwaiA Ajm«r JaisaliDer ' Bvmier Sikkim Gangtok Tamil Nadu Tiruchirctialii Vellore 4 f Salem Coimbatore KumbakOtuun' Written Answers • MARCH 25.1985 Written Answers jfi 1 2 3 ‘ 4 Tripura Agartala '■ Uttar Pradesh Dcoria — Shaluahanpur ■ Sultanpur Rai-Bareilly ' Bareilly Jhansi ^ * Nainital t Rampur Fanikhabftd . . ■ r Faizabad ' ■ Etawah AUgarb ■ Moradabad Pauri -f > « ■ Bahraich Sambhal Pithoragarh Agra (Since replaced by HPT) * • West Bengal , Matda —“ Kharagpur * * ; .f Bardhaman ; t V-t' 'i Baluigbat \ . Shantiniketan t. ' Andamans and ' Nicobar Islands^ Part Blair — Car-Nicobar Aruoacbal Pradesh ‘ Itanagar * . Mizoram " Aizwal PoDdichcrry — — Pondicherry ------!------NOIX : (i) HPT—High Power Transmitter (10 KW or 1 KW) ‘ (ii) LPt—Low Power Transmitter (100 Watt) ' 73 Written Answers CHAITRA 4. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers Memorandum submitted by National (a) the number of Technical Assistants Sugar Institute, Kanpur Diploma holders in Civil Engineering working on daily wages in National 876. SHRI B. B. RAMAJAH ; Will the Building Construction Corporation in Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Delhi at present; SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) whether Government are examin- (b) the rate of instant daily wages paid ing the Memorandum from the National to a Technical Assistant; and Sugar Institute (NSI), Kanpur for revi- talising and strengthening the institute (c) whether Technical Assistants who and if so, details of the recommendations are working on daily wages are appointed and Government's reaction thereto; in regular service as Junior Engineer ? (b) whether grant of an autonomous THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND status is one of the suggestions made and HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): if so, decision thereon; and (a) There are no Technical Assistants in (c) whether Government propose to National Buildings Construction reorganise the NSI and link it directly Corporation Ltd. with the sugar industry by having effective representation of the producers and indu- (b) and (c). Question does not arise, stry on its governing body with sufficient in view of reply to part (a) above. powers and authority to deal with its func- tioning effectively ? Procurement of Rice by F. C. I. from THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Andhra Pradesh CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). No memorandum 878. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA has been received by Government from RAO : Will the Minister of FOOD the NSI, Kanpur regarding revitalisation AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to and strengthening of the Institute, However, state : a memorandum has been received from the NSI Officer’s and Technical Staff (a) the total quantity of rise procured Welfare Association listing various from Andhra Pradesh by the food diflGculties, administrative and procedural, Corporation of India in 1983-84 and 1984- experienced and making suggestions for 85; and .improvement including that of granting (b) the quantity of rice given to the an autonomous status to the Institute. Government of Andhra Pradesh for public Government arc constantly keeping under distribution system in 1983*84 and 1984- * review the functioning of the Institute and 85 and the issue price thereof ? have for this purpose the benefit of the guidance of an Advisory Board consisting THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND of representatives of the sugar industry, CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA eminent professionals and the Director of SINGH); (a) In Andhra Pradesh, the Food the Institute. The difficulties and problems Corporation of India procured 14.74 lakh faced by the Institute in carrying out the tonnes of rice (including paddy in terms assignments entrusted to it will continue .of rice) in 1983-84, and 10.97 lakh tonnes to be reviewed so that the Institute in 1984-85 marketing season (upto functions effectively. 19-3^85). . * Paym ent of Daily Wages to Technical (b) The offtake of rice from Central Assistants in National Building Pool by the State Government, amounted Construction Corporation to 10.19 lakh tonnes in 1983-84 and 4.08 lakh tonnes in 1984“85 (upto February ’85). 877. SHRI M. L. 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SHRI R. ANNA NAMBI : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL 884. SHRI G. G. SWELL : Will the SUPPUES be pleased to state : Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state ; (a) whether a major problem facing the sugar industry is the cyclical fluctua- (a) whether Government have made tion in production arising from instability contingency plans to with stand the Id supply of sugarcanc; and occurrence of severe droughts and lack of drinking water in coastal areas as occurred (b) if so, the remedial steps taken by in Tamil Nadu in 1983; Government ip this regard ? (b) whether he is considering setting THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND up reverse osmosis plants in certain select- CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA ed areas on an experimental basis; and SINGH) : (a) Inadequate supply of sugarcane is one of the factors that creates (c) the names of such areas and the fluctuations in sugar production. lickely cost for those plants ? (b) Among the more important steps THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND to ensure adequate supply of sugarcanc to HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR); sugar mills include : (a) The States are expected to make such plans. Drought affected areas are given (i) demarcation of reserved areas for priority in providing water supply facilities sugar mills; under normal plan programme. (ii) ensuring remunerative cane price (b) This Ministry is funding a Research to growers; project on large scale application of water desalination reasearch with a view to (iii) cane developmental and marketing providing safe drinking water in areas activities undertaken by the State affected by salinity problems.* Governments and sugar mills; (c) Under the above project 8 (iv) checking diversion of reserved cane demonstration plants based on reverse for sugar mills to the manufacture osmosis and electro-dialysis processes are of khandsari and gur by power being set up on experimental basis in crushers; selected villages in the State of Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Rajasthan and (v) further licensing of sugar factories Tamilnadu. The cost of each unit will as well as permitting expansion in be approximately Rs. 3.2 lakhs and will be the existing factories to provide for met fully by the Ministry of Works and better and more efiacient utilisation Housing. of available cane; (vi) developing intensive cultivation of Handing over of Flats (SFS UI) in sugarcane through the production Vijay Mandal Enclave by D.D.A. and distribution of better quality seed cane, cane cultivation practices, 885. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : undertaking plant protection Will the Minister of WORKS AND fppARiires and training of farmers HOUSING be pleased to state : and field level workers; • (a) whether the D. D. A. has handed (vii) urging the States Governments to over possession of the D. D. A. SFS-III ensure timely payment of cane flats at Kalu Sarai, Vijaya Mandal Enclave price to the growers. by the end of February, 1985; 79 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Arts'wers 80 (b) if not, whether DDA will pay THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE interest to the allottees for the inordinate AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI delay in banding over possession; BUTA SINGH) ; (a) No statutory enquiry under the provisions of the relevant Co- (c) the specific reasons for the delay opwrative Societies Act, has recently been in handing over possession of the houses instituted or conducted into the working to the allottees; of any national level cooperative society. (d) by what specific date these houses (b) to (e). Does not arise. will be handed over to the allottees; and (e) the details of the supporting services Ratification of Conventions and Recommendations of International at the above mentioned housing complex ? Labour Organisation THE MINISTER. OF WORKS AND 887. SHRI AMAL DATTA : Will the HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : (a) No, Sir. (a) whether Government’s failure to (b) Yes, Sir. ratify the major conventions and recom- mendations of the International Labour (c) Delay in construction is because of Organisation was resented at a seminar on revision in layout plan owing to an International Labour Standards; objection raised by the Director (G), Archaeological Survey of India. (b) what are those conventions and recommendations; and (d) 196 houses .presently under cons- truction are expected to be handed over to (c) when these conventions and allottees by July, 1985. recommendations are going to be ratified by Government ? (e) Supporting services like roads, drains, water supply, sewerage and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE electricity are being provided simul* MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. taneously. ANJIAh ) : (a) No, Sir. In so far as unratified conventions selected for the Enquiries into the Working of Seminar are concerned, the objective of Cooperative Societies the National Tripartile Seminar held in New Delhi in Octobcr, 1984 was to 886. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS ; examine the possibility of their eventual Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ratification. A view was expressed during AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be general discussion that there should be no pleased to state : difTcrcnce in attitudes as at the stage of adoption of a convention and as at the (a) whether Government have instituted stage of ratification. or conducted any enquiries into the work- ing of coop>erative societies on the national (b) and (c). In view of reply to (a) level recently; above does not arise. (b) if so, the details thereof; Housing Programnie for Weaker Sections in Bfbar (c) whether any guidelines were recommended to the erring cooperative 888. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA : societies; Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING l>e pleased to state : (d) if so, whether these guidelines were complied with by these societies; and (a) whether progress of housing pro- 4 gramme for economically weaker sections (e) if not, what action has been taken is far behind the targets in the Eastern against them ? < 3tates including Bihar; 1 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Wrtften Answers , gj (b) if so, reasons thereof ; and ments. However, the Union Government monitors the scheme of Housing for (c) it not, the State-wise targets and Economically Weaker Sections which achkvemeirts during the Sixth Plan ? forms part of the New 20-Point Programme. t h e m i n i s t e r o f w o r k s a n d HOUSING (SHRI ABDtTL GHAFOOR); 2. A statement indicating the States (a) to (c). Housing, being a State subject wise targets and achievements for the all the Social Housing Schemes including Eastern States including Bihar during the houses for Economically weaker sections Sixth Plan (Upto January, 1985) is arc implemented by the States Govern- annexed. Statement Housing Programme for Werlcr Sections in the Eastern Region Including Bihar ■ 1 ■ ■ -• y , ■ _ , 1 1 , , 111^ SIXTH PLAN Name of the States Target Adhlevements upto 31.1.85 1. Assam 19,333 7,266 2. Bihar 68,133 31,833 3. Manipur 8,133 ' 318 4. Maghalaya 5,800- 109 5. Nagaland No scheme is in operation 6, Orissa 25,133 29,174 7. Sflckim 5,833 58 8. Tripura 14,500 207 9, West Bengal 90,867 3,026 Shifting of Officer from Vikas (f ) if so the detafls; and Mlntr to Vlkai Sadan (g) whether some floors of Vikas 889. SHRI VTJAY KUMAR YADAV: Minar now vacant are going to be rented Wift the Minister of WORKS AND out ? HOUSING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF WORKS ^ D (s) whether some sections and oflficers HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOit^ of DDA have been shifted from Vikas (a) Yes. Minar to new birilding (Vikas Sadan); (b) In the first phase, the following (b) if so, the particulars thereof; sections/departments have been shifte . (v) Allotment of LJG, MIG and (b) TTie reasons for import of edible General Housing. oils and Sugar are as follows : (vi) Ground Rent Section. Edible Oils ; There has been a gap (vii) Commercial Cell Branch. between the demand for and availability of indigenous edible oils in the country for the (viii) Sale of commercial plots and last few years. The gap is partly being ^ built up shops. met by imports. ' (ix) Housing Department, Sugar : Sugar is being imported to (x) Building plans sanction work. augment the availability, to curb specula- tion and hoarding tendencies and to keep (c) 56,700 Square feet. the price index under check. (d) (i) By giving more space to Plan- (c) Yes, Sir. ning and Architecture Depart- ment already located in Vikas Minar, for relieving their {T>ansiation] ^ congestion. (ii) By shifting some branches of Fixation of Price of Agricultural Planning and Architecture Produce Departments, located elsewhere, to Vikas Minar. 891. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : - DR. A. K. PATEL : ■ (iii) By shifting Chief Engineers presently located elsewhere to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Vikae Minar. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT bt pleased to State : (e) Yes. f (a) whether Government’s attention ( f ) (i)) Members of the Authority has been down to the demand of farmers’, (ii) Secretary and his office organisations that while fixing the price of agricultural produce, cost of production, (ill) Financc and Accounts Branch the extent of loss suffered due to national * (iv) Personnel Department calamities and other reasons and the extent of remuneration to be given to farmers (v) Public Relation Department. on their produce, should be taken into account; and ,.(g) No. (b) if so, Govirnment’s reaction there- Import of edible Oil and Sugar to and the action taken in this r ^ r d ? ’ 890. SHRI S. M. GURADDI : Will the THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI SUPPLIES be pleased to state : BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Government have taken keeping in view ^ (a) whether there is a proposal to the demands made by farmers’ organisa- import edible oil and sugar; tions from time to time and are fixing support prices of various agricultural (b) if so, the reasons therefore; and commodities with the objectives of provid- ing remunerative prices. These prices (c) whether palm oil will also be not only cover the cost of production but imported ? also provide a reasonable margin of profit to the farmers. Losses suffered on account THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND of natural calamities are sought to be CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA mitigated through various relief SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. measures. 85 Written Answers CHATTRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 8^ [English] the produce of its members, including small and marginal farmers. . Effective Marketing System for the Produce of SoiaJl Farmers Funds to the States under RLEGP 892. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA : ^HRl MOHAN BHAI PATEL : 893. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE- Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : pleased to state ; (a) whether there is any effective (a) the amount released to major States marketing system for the produce of the for Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Progromme, State-wise and year-wise; - marginal and small farmers to ensure ■« good returns to them; and (b) whether the State schemes, ’foir RLEGP ^sistance require prior approval (b) if so, the details thereof and if of Central* Government; not, the steps Government propose to take for creating effective marketing system m (c) if so, the prescribed approval the country ? procedure; and . THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (d) the interval between receipt of pro^- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI posal from the States and their approval BUTA SINGH) ; (a) and (b). There is a by Central Government in respect of net-work of agricultural produce markets Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, in the country which are regulated under Karnataka, Maharashtra, Orissa and the relevant State Acts. As on 31.3.1984, Uttar Pradesh for 1983-84 and 1984-85 ?. 5579 agricultural markets were provision- ally reported to have been regulated in THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE various States/Union Territories. In AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRi addition, in order to bring the market BUTA SINGH) : (a)The amount releas^a system within easy teach of farmers, in- to the States in 1983-84 and 1984-85 cluding small and marginal farmers, the under the rural Landless Employment Government of India provides assistance Gurantee Programme (RLEGP) is given for the development of agricultural in the Annexure. ' - * markets under a Ontral Sector Scheme. (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Under tlie Till 28.2.1985, ccntral assistance of RLEGP, the State Governments are reW Rs. 4820.66 lakh has been released for quired to prepare specific projects in the development of 2833 agricultural accordance with the instructions issued markets in various States/Union Terri- for the formulation of projects and sub-| tories. mit them to the Department of Rural Further, the Commission for Agricul- Development for approval and sanction^ tural Costs and Priccs recommends • by the Central Committes for ,NREP/ support prices for agricultural commo- RLEGP. ^ .^1 dities within its purview. Where (d) The interval between receipt ©f^ necessary, price support operations the proposals from the States and their j are undertaken by agencies like the Food Corporation of India, National Agricul- approval by the Central Government has tural Co-operative Marketing Federation varied between less than a monfli t6'* approximately four months. However^^ of India Limited, Cotton Corporation of India, Jute Corporation of India, a majority of the proposals have! been ^ etc. as • also various State level approved within a month of their receiptj; corporations* and cooperative societies as all proposals received by the due date*" have been placed before th in ease a project proposal is cither in- will be evident from the fact that complete or not properly fonnulated though this programme was launched on according to the instructions that a larger 15.8.1983 with the Sixth Five Year Plan interval is involved as the State Govem- allocation of Rs. 600 crores, projects inents are requested to provide necessary involving an estimated cost of Rs. 904.37 information or revise the project. The pro- crores have been sanctioned and are in 9MU made in the approval of projects various stages of implementation. Statement State-wise releases made under the Rural Landless Employment Guaranttee Frogratnme during J983-84 and 1984-85 (jupto 15.3.198S) (Rs. in iakbt) BL States Releases made in Releases of advance No. 1983-84 1984-85 subsidy of food grains 4k during 1984-85 t 2 3 4 S ■% 1. Andhra Pradesh 990.00 4040.10 47.025 2. Assam 216.00 862.00 12.825 3. Bihar 1425.00 5692.00 77.533 4. G^iarat 320.00 1305.50 16.447 5. Haryana 84.00 335.00 2,997 & Himachal Pradesh 60.00 240.00 ’ 3.367 IF. Jammu and Kashmir 75.00 150.00 3.572 8. Karnataka 470.00 1877.00 34.352 % Kerala 470.00 1877.00 22.325 10. Madhya Pradesh 823.00 3072.75 52.006 i u Maharashtra 790.00 3156.00 60.902 u . Manipur 11.00 — 0.532 13. Meghalaya 15.00 30.00 0.893 14. Nagaland 10.00 — 0475 15. Orissa 450.00 1667.74 35.625 Puigab 135.00 540.00 — 17, Rajasthan 240.00 1200.00 12.339 u . Bikkim 8.00 15.50 0.418 Tamil Nadu 890.00 4450.00 60,401 Tripura 33.00 13L00 1.957 2U Uttar Pradesh ’ 1705.00 6957.56 90.114 22» ' West Bengal 770.00 1538.30 59.348 TOTAL 9990.25 39137.45 595,453 89 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 90 ProducUoo and Procurcnent of (a) whether Government are providing Foodi^rains any special facility to the magazines exclusively for tribal reading; 894. SHRl ANIL BASU : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so, the details thereof; and SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) whether more facilities will be (a) whether in view of the record extended to them as tribals need special production and procurement of foodgraiofi^ attention ? Government are considering to bring down the prices of rice and wheat for Public THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR Distribution System in the country; and INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ING (SHRl V. N. GADGIL) : (a) and (b) if not, the reasons therefor ? (b) Newspapers/journals published in tribal Languages or primarily meant for t h e m i n i s t e r o f f o o d a n d tribal readers having minimum paid circu- Ci v i l s u p p l i e s (r a o b i r e n d r a lation of 500 copies per issue qualify for SINGH) : Ca) and (b). No proposal to Government advertisements as against redu(» issue prices of rice and wheat is minimum paid circulation of lOOO in other under consideration of Government. cases. Similarly, relaxation is available for newspapers/journals published in tribal [Translation^ - language or primarily for tribal readership in the prescribed print area. These news- Insurance Scheme for Frait Crops papers are also entitled to all other cpncessioas/benefits available to snoaJl and 895. SHRl HARISH RAWAT : Will medium newspapers. the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (c) No such proposal is under consi-* RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to deration of the Government. state : (a) whether there is any proposal to Training to the Raral Youtbis for introduce insurance scheme for fruit crops, Self-Employment in Goa especially for the fruits produced in the temperate climate; and 897. SHRl EDUARDO FALEIRO : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (b) if so, the steps being taken by his AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT bo Ministry to compensate the farmers for pleased to state : the damage caused to fruits by frost, hailstorms and strong winds ? (a) whether Government are running a programme for training rural youths for THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE self-employment in the States and Uoipn AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl Territories; BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b) It has been (b) if so, the target for providing dwjided to introduce a comprehensive training to the rural youths for self- scheme of crop insurance as an integral employment in Goa during 1985; and . part of crop loans. To begin with, the scheme will cover Wheat, Paddy, Oilseeds (c) the financial allocation for this and Pulses only. For the present, the programme ? scheme does not cover fruit crops. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTlfRE \.English-\ ' AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes. Sir. The Facility to Magazines for Triiial Reading scheme is called ‘Training of rural youth for self-employment” . 896. SHRl RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : (b) The target for training of rural WiU the Minister of INFORMATION youths for self-employment is fixed for the AND BROADCASTING be pleased to financial year and not for the calender state ; year. The target fixed by the Adminislra- 91 Written Answelrs MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 92 tion of Goa, Daman and Diu for 1984-55 (a) whether India is likely to export is 2,400 youths, one million tons of wheat during the current year; ’ (c) No separate financial allocation is noade for this scheme, TTie expenditure (b) the wheat production target likely to be incurred under this scheme is met to be achieved during the current year; out of the funds allotted for the Integrated Rural Development Programme, (c) whether the quantity of wheat proposed to be exported will be surplus; if not, the reasons for exporting the same; {Translation] and Extension of Lai Dora in Delhi (d) the foodgrains India is importing 898. SHRI BHARAT SINGH : Will at present and the steps taken or proposed the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING to be taken to see that the imports are be pleased to state : eliminated in a passed manner over a short span of time as also the position of r (a) whether despite increase in popu- import and export of cereals in this lation the problem of Lai Dora is still regard ? there and its limit has not yet been extended; and .THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA- (b) whether the limit of Lai Dora will SINGH) : (a) to (d). It has been decided be extended and if so, when ? to supply one lakh tonnes of wheat as aid to some of the drought affected African THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND countries. HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) Yes, Sir, The Government also keeps the option » ' to export wheat from the country, if (b) The Delhi Administration have necessary and feasible, having due regard informed that Lai Dora cannots ‘abadi to our own requirements within the Deh* determined during the course of country. settlement under the Land Revenue Act. In areas now comprising the Union The production of wheat in 1983-84 territory of Delhi, the last settlement took was 45.15 million tonnes. place in the year 1908-09. Another India is not importing any cereals at revenue Settlement in the changed situation of Delhi has not been found practicable. present. , However, abadi site can be extended by way of ‘consolidation of holdings’ opera- Rural and Urban Unemployment tions in meeting legistimate demand for building additional dwelling units 900. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM ; Will necessitated due to increase in population. the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : . ’ A detailed scheme for ‘consolidation of •holdings’ has been submitted by Delhi (a) the year-wise figures of rural and Administration to the Planning Commis- urban unemployment during the last five sion for inclusion in the 7th plan and years; making available needed plan Outlay in (b) whether and specific new steps ari the Annual Plan for 19B5-86. 7th Five being undertaken to solve this problem; Year Plan has, however, not yet been and finalised» . (c) if so, the details thereof ? [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF TH£ Export of Wheat MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) : (a) Available information S99. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : relates to the number of persons registered Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL with the Employment Exchanges. The SUPPLIES be pleased to state : same is shown in the enclosed statement; Written Answers 94 9^ Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (^SAKA) AJl the persons registered with the (a) total requirement and actual Employment Exchanges are, however, not availability of oil-seeds in the country; necessarily unemployed and all the and unemployed persons do not nccessarily register with the Employment Exchanges. (b) the reasons why Government do not import oil-seeds instead of oil from (b) and (c) The Approach Paper to the abroad ? Seventh Five Year Plan (1985-90) states that the generation of gainful employment THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND through integration of the sectoral produc- CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA tion plans with employment plans and SINGH) : (a) The production of edible enlargement of on-going employment oilseeds during 1983-84 was 128.1 lakh programmes under a National Employment tonnes. The requirement of oilseeds Programme to cover specific target groups during that period is not available. will be emphasized in the Seventh Plan. However, the requirement for edible oils Employment schemes will aim at the during 1983-84 was 47 lakh tonnes. creation of durable assets, skill formation and generation of permanent and continu- (b) Some of the reasons fornot ing employment with progressively importing oilseeds are ; increasing incomc levels. In addition, schemes will continue to promote self- (1) The import of oilseeds is likely to employment in economically viable acti- act as a disincentive to the fanners vities backed up by the requisite training, producing oilseeds. credit, marketing and organisational linkages. (2) Bulk import of any kind of seeds \ into the country will attract quar- Statement antine requirements. The seeds can be moved into the country Number of Persons Registered with the only after the health authorities Employment Exchanges at the ports have given clearance. This may take time. (In millions) (3) The import of oilseeds is associat- As at the Total Registrants from ed with the problem of handling, end of Rural Areas storage, transportation and (included in processing for recovery of oils Col. 2) leading to a time lag in the supply of oils to the consumers. This will entail severe logistics pro- (1) (2) (3) blems and may call for additional storage and other overhead costs. * 1980 16.2 Not available (4) Oilseeds crushing comes under 1981 17.8 Not available special regulation of industry 1982 19.7 10.7 under Industries (Development and Regulation) Act. This in case 1983 10.-8 21.9 crushing of oilseeds is concerned, 1984 23.5 11.7 ' the activity will have to be ------covered by licensing. Allowing import of oilseeds will thus Requirement of oil-seeds mean granting licenses based on imported material. 901. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (5) Oilcakes, produced out of MUNSI : Will the Minister of FOOD “crushing” of oilseeds, are not a n d c i v i l s u p p l i e s be pleased to alowed to . be exported because *tate : the meal will still continue 95 Writien Ans'wers MARCfl 25» 1985 Written Answers 96 to have significant cTt content. Training to Youths of West Bengal Export of oilcakes is allowed under Trysem only after* the oil is extracted under the solvent extraction 903. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : Will process. Such exports of the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND oilcakes, based on imported RURAL DOVELOPMENT be pleased to oilseeds, may seriously jeopardize slate : our own efforts for increasing (a) the number of rural youths of West export markets for oilcakes made Bengal, who were trained during the period out of oil&eeds grown within the between 1980-81 to 1983-84 under the country. Lniining of rural for Self-Employment (TRYSEM) for equipping them with neces- Additional Avenues for Women’s sary skills and technology to enable EmpIoym^Bt ‘ them to seek self-employment; 902. DR. PHULRENU GUHA : WiTl (b) the number of such rural youths the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to who were actually self-cmployod or state : « absorbed in their respective trades after completion of tbelr training; (a) whether Government have taken (c) the actual achievement as compared itepb to identify areas and sectors where to the target fixed; tfSniployment of women is (bither low or is cm the decline; (d) the reasons why substantial number of such rural youths could not become fb) if so, the areas and sectors which self-employed or absorbed in Tnufcs des- beeb so identified; and pite training under the above Centrally sponsored schemes; and (c) what corrective measures have (e) the amount of Central assistance bten initiated/proposed to promote sanctioned and the amount actually utilis- additional avenues for women’s employ- ed for such schemes in West Bengal upto ment in such identified areas and sectors ? 1983-84 ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Mi n i s t r y o f l a b o u r (s h r i t . AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ANJIAH) : (a) to (c) Statistics available BUTA SINGH) : (a) The number of with the Ministry of Labour do not show rural youth trained under TRYSEM bet- a steady trend regarding employment of ween 1980-81 to 1983-84 in West Bengal women in the various sectors. The over is approximately 12,000. all picture, however, indicates that over the years the total number of women (b) Approximately 2,640. employed in the organised sector has gone (c) About 22.40 per cent in terms of up. youth trained. While reviewing the employment situa- (d) The reasons for the substantial tion ffom thne to time attempt is made to number of trained rural youth not becom- identify the areas and sectors which ate ing self-employed or no^ being absorbed suited to the employment of women and in trades despite training under ‘Training efforts are made in that direction to of Rural Youth for Self Employment’* are fireside necessary training facilities through being collected from the State Government the various training institutions. An of West Bengal. Advisory Committee under the Equal Remuneration Act, i976 has also been (e) No separate funds are allocated cbnstituttd which reviews the position of state-wise for TRYSEM. The expendi- women's employment and, inter-aliCf ture for training under TRYSEM is met considers necessary prortiotional measures from the budget for Integrated Rural in that regard. Development Programme. 97 Written Answers CHAITRA 4.1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 98 The actual expenditure inoirred is f (b) TV coverage in Ratnagiri and shown below : Sindhudurg districts is expected to improve with the augmentation of power of the i KW TV transmitter at Panaji to 10 KW. Training expenditure Year With the augmentation of the power of (Rs. in lakhs) the existing 1 KW TV transmitter at Nag-* pur to 10 KW, TV service is expected to 11.77 1980-81 become available to Wardha and parts of 1981-82 18.03 Yavatmal districts and the present TV coverage of Nagpur, Bhandara, Chandira* 1982-83 ■ Not reported pur and Amravari districts is expected to improve. 1983-84 35.96 [7>ansiaf/on] Total 65.76 Commodities sold through Public Distribution System Extension of TV Facilities in Maharashtra 905. SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL 904. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will SUPPLIES be pleased to state : the Minister of INFORMATION AND (a) the commodities sold through tbe BROADCASTING be pleased to state : public distribution system and the crite- ria adopted in fixing their prices; (a) the districts of Maharashtra which have been extended T.V. facility; and (b) whether any request has been received by the Government seeking addition of (b) the districts of Maharashtra propo- more commodities to .the list of those sed to be included in T.V. extensioD pro- being sold through public distribution gramme for the year 1985-86 ? system at present and if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (c) the number of days in a month for BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL) : which fair price shops in rural aica3 (a) The districts of Maharashtra which remains open; and are at present covered by TV service in (d) whether any working hours hav« full or in part, are given below : been fixed for the fair price shops ? (1) Greater Bombay (13) Akola THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (2) Thane (14) Sholapur SINGH) : (a) and (b). The Central (3) Ratnagiri (15) Sangli Government has taken the r^ponsibility for supplying certain key essential com- (4) Sindhudurg (16) Kolhapur modities like, wheat, rice, sugar, edible (5) Raigarh (17) Lature oils, kerosene, controlled cloth and soft coke to the States/Union Territories for (6) Satara (18) Nanded distribution through the network of fair price shops. These commodities are (7) Pune (19) Parbhani supplied to the State Governments at (8) Nasik (20) Chandrapur uniform issue prices which are fixed from tim.e to time by the Central Government. (9) Dhule (21) Nagpur The States are permitted to add to these prices local handling and transportation (10) Jalgaon (22) Bhandara charges etc. so as to arrive at the end (11) Aurangabad (23) Amravati retail price for the commodity. In the case of levy sugar, however, there is a (12) Jalna (24) Ahmediiagar uniform retail price of Rs. 4 per kg. Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Ans>vers lOO ^which it is issued to the consumers under* MATION AND BROADCASTING be ^'the public distribution system. In addi- pleased to state : tion to the commodities made available (a) whether the existing norms fixed ;by the Central Government to the States/ by Government justiry T.V. centre at Union Territories, the latter have also been Bhawanipatna in District Kalahandi of *^vcn the option to include such other Orissa; hems of mass consumption under the public distribution on system as they (b) if so, when Government propose deem fit by arranging supplies of their to open a T.V. centre in Kalahandi Dis- "own. trict of Orissa; and (c) and (d) The number of working (c) if not, whether Government would days and working hours of fair price relax the criteria to extend this facility to shops, both in rural and urban areas, the people of this backward region in the are fixed by the State Governments/ State ? ■ Union Territory Administrations. THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR [English] INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) to HUDCO Loans not Utilised by Kerala (c). There is no approved scheme, at present, to set up a TV Centre in 906. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Kalahandi district of Orissa. *Will the Minister of WORKS AND -HOUSING be pleased to state ; Increasing TV CoYerage for North (a) whether Government are aware Eastern States * and Jorhat in the North-Eastern region (b) and (c). All commercial advertise- have been approved and are under im- ments on Doordarshan are subject to the plementation. Domestic TV coverage in provisions of “Code for Commercial the North-Eastern region, including Mizo- Advertising on TV.” xam, vi^ould improve considerably on commissioning of the transmitters men- Bonded Labour Freed and Rehabilitated tioned above. • in Bihar ' Setting up of T.V. Relay Station 911. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD at Amlapuram SINGH : Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : . 909. SHRl A.J.V.B. MAHESHWARA RAO : Will the Minister of INFOR- (a) the number of bonded labour freed MATION AND BROADCASTING be in Bihar during the years 1983 and 1984; pleased to state ; (b) number of those rehabilitated and ' (a) whether there is any proposal to those who have been sent to their home set up a TV Relay Station at Amlapuram States; and , East Godavari Distt. In Andhra Pradesh (c) details regarding their rehabifitation ? which will benefit 10 lakh listeners, specially agriculturists; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. (b) whether considering the importance ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). As per ^ the of the proposal Government will take reports received from the Government of sympathetic view in the matter ? Bihar, the number of bonded labourrirs THE MINISTER OF STATE OF identified and freed in the State during tllo THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION years 1983 and 1984 was 62 and 469 AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. respectively. The corresponding number GADGIL) : (a) No, Sir. of bonded labourers rehabilitated was 800 and 2,177. The information regarding tho (b) With the implementation of number of bonded labourers sent to their schemes in hand, TV service expected to home States is not available. be available to half of East Godavari distnct. Further expension of TV service (c) The Government of Bihar Is ‘ to uncovered areas would depend upon rehabilitating the freed bonded labourers availability of resources during future Plan under land based, animal husbandry based’ periods. and skill/craft based schemes. • Advertisement of State Governments on T. V. Representation from Betel Leaf Growers 910. SHRJ SAIFUDDTN CHOWDHURY : Will the Minister of 912. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : INFORMATION AND BROAD- Will the Minister Of AGRICULTURE CASTING be pleased to state : AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT bo pleased to state : • • * (a) whether some State Governments advertisements of their achievements on (a) whether Government have teceived T.V.; . any memorandum from the represeptatives of betel leaf growers; (b) whether there is any set norm for Doordarshan to accept such advertise- (b) if so, details of proposals for ments; and ' • improving the lot of betel leaf growere; (c) if so, the details thereof ? (c) whether Government have- ^nsi- dered the proposals; and . - • THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE m i n i s t r y o f information AND (d) the steps taken by Govemmwt to broadcasting (SHRI - V. N. increase betel leaf production, to do GADGIL) : (a) No» Sir. research for developing its quality, and to 165 Written Answers MARCH 25.1985 Written Answers 104 ensure rcmuneralivc price for betel leaf (a) the number of Employment growers ? ' Exchanges in the country» State-wise; THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (b> the number of registered un- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI employed in those Employment Exchanges BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). No, Sir' indicating separately the number of uneducated and educated amongst them; (d) The Indian Council of Agriculture and Research has sanctioned an All India Coordinated Research Project on betel vine (c) among educated unemployed, how dise£«es in April, 1981. In March, 1983, many are under matric, matriculates, the Council strengthened this project and intermediates* graduates (of various included other important areas of betel streams), post graduates and others with research such as improvement in culti- still higher qualifications 7 vation method, selection of high yielding THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE varieties, etc. The Project is implemented MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI t. in betel vine growing States. Some State ANJIAH) : (a) Information is furnished in Governments are giving assistance in the the Statement-1 enclosed. production and marketing of betel leaf. Statement-I Nttmber* of Employment Exchanges as at the end o f 31-J2-1984 SI. No. States/Union Territories Number 1 2 3 States 1. Andhra Pradesh 33 Assam 45 3. Bihar 55 4. Gujarat 39 5. Haryana 34 6. Himachal Pradesh 15 ■ 7. Jammu and Kashmir 14 8. Karnataka 37 9. Kerala 37 10. Madhya Pradesh 63 ■ 11. Maharashtra 43 12. Manipur - 7 13. Meghalaya 5 105 Written Answers CHAITRA 4. 1907 {SAKA) Written An:iWers 106 1 2 3 14. Nagaland 4 . 15. Orissa 22 16. Punjab 40 17. Rajasthan 31 18. Silckim 19. Tamilnadu 28 20. Tripura 4 21. TJttar Pradesh 89 22. West Bengal 68 Union Territories 1. Andaman and Nicobar Islands 1 2. Arunachal Pradesh — 3. Chandigarh 2 4. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 1 , 5. Delhi 20 6. Goa 1 7. Lakshadweep 1 8. Mizoram 5 9. Pondicherry 1 All India Total : 745 Note . —* The number relates to such units as are functioning independently. The number also includes University Employment Information and Guidance Bureaus functioning in various States/Union Territories. Statement-n Number of educated and uneducated job-seekers on the Live Register of Employment Exchanges as on 31-12-1984 Noinber COOO) as on 3142-1984 SI. No. States Below Matric • Educated Total Job- (including (Matric and seekers illiterates) (P) above) (P) (Col. 1+ 2) 1 1 3 4 5 1. Andhra Pradesh 1076.5 10963 2172.8 2. Assam 255.4 231.7 487.1 ' 3. Bihar 1161.4 1507.1 2668.5 4. Qiijarat 241.7 390.1 631.8 io7 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers io5 1 2 3 4 5 ’ 5. Haryana 232.1 235.5 467.6 6. Himachal Pradesh * 102.9 154.7 257.6 7. Jammu and Kashmir 39.0 27.7 66.7 8. Karnataka 330.5 439.5 770.0 9. Kerala 1244.7 1284.4 2529.1 10. Madhya Pradesh 550,4 565.1 1115.4 11. Maharashtra 1122.9 977.5 2100.4 12. Manipur 91.3 94.7 186.0 13. Meghalaya 7.0 4.9 11.9 14. Nagaland 12.3 1.5 13.8 15. Orissa 300.8 258.6 559.4 16. Punjab 241.7 284.5 526.2 17. Rajasthan 215,6 289.1 504.7 18. Sikkim* 19. Tamilnadu 868.1 838.4 . 1706.5 20. Tripura 50.5 42.2 92.7 21. Uttar Pradesh 713.3 1159.9 1873.2 22. West Bengal 2145.9 1978.3 4124.2 Unioii Terrisorles - 1. Andaman and Nicobar 9.0 2.6 11.7' Island 2. Aninachal Pradesh@ 3. Chandigarh 40.4 47.8 88.3 4. Dadra and Nagar • ■ Haveli** 5. Delhi 96.6 354.6 451.2 ■ 6. Goa. . 19.6 23.4 43.0 7. Lakshadweep 4.5 1.7 6.3 8. Mizoram 10.0 6.7 16.7 9. Pondicherry * ‘ ■ 31.7 32.3 64.0 11215.9 12330.9 All India Total : t ■ 23546.8 :__1. *No Employment Exchange is functioning in thiVState. ‘ ' - r' .. 2'. **One Employment Exchange is functioning in this Union Territory, but ' data are yet to be received. ' 3. @No full-fledged Employment Exchange is functioning. Some Employment Cells are functipning, data relating to which are yet to be receiv*^. . " 4 Figures m^ay not add up to total due to rounding off. ' ' ♦ ' 1 P—ProvisionaU , - - I « 6. All the job-seekers on the live register are not necessarily Unemployed... '109 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 Written Answers 110 f Closure of Sugar Mill in Jamunanagar , Export of Wheat 914. SHRI B. V. DESAI ; Will the 915. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT- Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL NAIK : Will the Minister of FOOD AND SUPPLIES be pleased to state : CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) whether Government propose to (a) whether a private mill was closed export wheat during financial year 1985- on January IT in Jamunanagar after the 86; growers refused to bring the cane for crushing; (b) if so, the total quantity of wheat proposed to be exported; (b) if so, the main reasons for closure of sugar mill; (c) whether any other foodgrains arc also proposed to be exported; and (c) whether the mill was closed due to (d) if so, the details thereof ? the demand of the farmers for an increase in cane price; THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (d) if so, whether, Government has SINGH) : (a) to (d). The export policy taken steps to increase the cane prices; for the year 1985-86 has yet to be announced. (e) the other demands that are being considered by the Government; and Supply of Poor Quality Wheat byP. C. L (f) whether the farmers' agitation has greatly affected the suger production in 916. SHRJ C. D. GAMIT ; Will the the country ? Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CrVlL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (a) whether there have been complaints ^SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. The crushing . that the Food Corporation of India has operations were, however, resumed on 26th supplied poor quality wheat; and January, 1985. . (b) if so, the details thereof and the * (b) and (c). The growers, who were stops Government have taken in this demanding 'higher cane price, stopped regard ? supplying cane to the sugar mill. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND ' (d) The Central Government fixes only CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA the statutory minimum price of sugarcane SINGH) : (a) and (b). A few complaints payable by sugar factories and no factory about the quality of wheat issued to rollor can pay a pricc less than this. This price flour mills have , been received. All is uniform for all the States. The actual allottees are allowed to inspect and satisfy prices paid are decided mutually by the themselves about the quality of wheat growers and the producers of sugar, before taking delivery from the FCI wherein State Government may help in godowns, and a certificate to that effect is arriving at the agreed price. also obtained from the allottees. Before delivery, the FCI also inspects the stocks (e) There is not demand under the to ensure that they conform to the consideration of the Central Government. prescribed standards. (f) Thfe State Government ensures Setting up of Soyabean Rcsearrh that all the available cane in the mill area Institute is crushed before it finally closes down for the season. As such sugar production on 917. KUMARl PUSH PA DEVI ; Will account of the closurc of the mills from the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND January 17 to 25 is not likely to affect RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased production, to state ; Ill Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 112 (a) whether steps have been taken by Conference on Processing of Cereals Goverament to set up Soyabean Research Pulses and Oilseeds held at Kharagpur Institute in the Soyabean growing States; (b) whether any such Soyabean 919. SHRI G. VUAYA RAMA RAO : Research Institute has been opened in Will the MINISTER OF FOOD AND Madhya Pradesh; CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) if so, at what place; and (a) whether a conference on processing of cereals, pulses and oilseeds was held at (d) if not, the steps taken to open Kharagpur (I. I. T.) in December, 1984 such Soyabean research institute in that and if so, outcome thereof; State ? (b) the follow up section taken by THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Government on the recommendations AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl made; and BUTA SINGH) ; (a) to (c). Yes, Madam. The Indian Coundl of Agricultural (c) the number of delegates who Research has proposed to establish a attended the conference and total expen- National Research Centre for soyabean in diture incurred, including TA/DA etc. ? Madhya Pradesh during the Seventh Five THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Year Plan.A team of exp>erts has selected an CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA agricultural farm at Indore in consultation SINGH) : (a) and (b)v Yes, Sir. Recom- with the Government of Madhya Pradesh mendations made in the Conference have for the establishment of this Centre. not been received so far by the Govern- (d) Doc$ not arise. ment. (c) A total number of 105 delegates AchieT«‘inent af Targets Set for is reported to have attended the IRDP and NREP Conference. Total estimated expenditure incurred on the or^nisation of the Con- 918. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK : ference is stated to be approximately Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Rs. 40,000. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : Time Alloted to Gu}arati Laasuage Programmes Telecast from Delhi (a) whether there is any likelihood of Doordarshan targets for 1984-85 set for Integrated Rural Development Prc^amme and 920. SHRI MOHAN BHAI PATEL : National Rural Employment Programme Will the Minister of INFORMATION being achieved; and AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (b) 'if so, the details in this regard ? state : THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (a) the number of Gujarati feature films AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI telecast from Delhi Doordarshan Centre BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. during 1984; (b) Against the target of 30 lakh (b) time alloted (percentage) to beneficiaries to be assisted under Integrated Gujarati language programmes, feature Rural Development Programme during film, folk music, Chitramala and other 1984-85, total number of beneficiaries telecast from Delhi T. V. Center during covered upto February, 1985 is 29.88 lakhs 1984; . (provisional) i. e. 90.6%, As r ^ r d s (c) time allotted to other regional National Rural Employment Programme languages (percentage) during 1984; against the target of 309.13 million mandays for 1984-85, 285.04 million man- (d) whether there is any increase in the days have been generated upto February, total time allotted to different regional 1985 (92.2%), ' languages during 1984 as compared to 113 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SARA) Written Answers 114 1983, with special reference to Gujarati (c) if so, the action taken thereon; language; (d) if no action has been taken, the (e) it not, the reasons thereof; reasons thereof; and (f) whether Government propose to (e) action now proposed to be taken allot nrK>re time to all regional languages to im pro^ the functioning of the said with a view to strengthening cultural T.V. relay transmitter ? unity and emotional integration; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (g) if so, the details thereof ? MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION GADGIL) : (a) and (b). Reports of AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. frequent failures of power supply to the GADGIL) : (a) to (g). During 1984, TV transmitter, Asansol and consequent Doordarshan Kendra, Delhi telecast two interruptions of telecasts were received. ' Gujarati feature films. The Kendra also (c) to (e). A stand-by diesel generator telecast Gujarati programmes in various has been provided to the TV Centre. formates for a total duration of 156 Main power supply from an alternate minutes. Within the available resources source has also been sought. for programme production and the limitation of telecast time, Doordarshan Disposal of Flats Constructed in Kendra, Delhi attempts to put out as Asiad Village many programmes in various regional languages (including Gujarati) as possible. 922. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : As compared to 1983, Doordarshan Will the Minister of WORKS AND Kendra, Delhi telecast more programmes HOUSING be pleased to state : in regional languages during 1984. These include three feature filnis in regional (a) the number of flats in Asiad languages (one of which is telecast on the Village in New Delhi; natioi\al network) and one regional language play per month. To provide (b) the monthly expenditure incurred •quitable representation within the avail- on the maintenance of the Asiad Village; able telecast time, programmes in (c) whether there is a proposal to regional languages are put on a rotational dispose of the flats constructed in Asiad basis. Implementation of schemes for Village: providing additional programme produc- tion facilities in different parts of the (d) if so, how these flats arc likely to country and dissemination of TV pro- be disposed of; and grammes in the regional language of a (e) when action will be taken and th9 State by all transmitters in that State reasons for the delay in their disposal ? would, however, depend on the avail- ability of resources in future. Percentage THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND wise statistics of programmes in various HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR); languages are not maintained. (a) 853. Fcnctioning of Asansol T. V. Relay (b) Rs. 2.10 lakhs. Transmitter (c) to (e). Some (190) flats have already 921. SHRI SUDHIR ROY : Will the been disposed of to the Public Sector Minister of INFORMATION AND Undertakings and a small number (28) to BROADCASTING be pleased to state ; the Indian Nationals residing abroad. Remaining flats are under process of (a) whether Government are aware of disposal. the malfunctioning of the Asansol T. V. The flats arc being disposed off Relay Transmitter; gradually depending upon the progress (b) whether Government have repieved of negotiations/offers of concerped parties |toy complaiDt in this regard; agencies. 115 Written Answers MARCH 25,1985 Written Answers 116 Allotment of Foodgrains, Cemeot C.P.W.D. Workshops Registered etc. to Gu}armt under Factory Act 923. SHRI AMARSrNH RATHAWA : 925. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH^ Will Will the Minister of FOOD AND the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to ING be pl^ed to state : State : (a) whether the C.P.W.D. workshops have been \ registered under the Factories (a) whether Gujarat Government have Act; and requested the Centre to allot more food- grains, cement, edible oil etc. to the State (b) if so, locations and divisions to meet the increasing demand of essen- under which they exist ? tial commodities due to natural calamity such as drought, fioods etc. during the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND year 1984-85; HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) Three workshops of CPWD have (b) if so, the details of the demand been registered under the Factories made; and • Act. (b) (i) Fan Repair Workshop, (c) the quantity of items suppli^ to Vidyut Bhavan, Gujarat State against their extra New Delhi. demand ? <• Under Air Conditioning Division No. HI. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (ii) Mechanical Workshop, SINGH) : (a) to (c). No request from American Warehouse, the Government of Gujarat for additional Netaji Nagar, New Delhi, allotment of foodgrains, cement, edible Under Mechanical and Wojk- oils etc. to meet the increasing demand shop Division. due to natural calamity like drought, floods etc. was received during 1984-85. (iii) Horticulture Workshop, However, at the request of the State Sunder Nursery, Government for enhancement of its New Delhi. monthly allocation of wheat for stream- Under Horticulture East lining its public distribution system, the Division. monthly allocation of wheat to Gujarat was increased in January, 1985 from Removal hf Anomaly in C.P.W.D. 17,500 tonnes to 30,000 tonnes and the Enquiry Officcs increased level of allocation has since 926. SHRI SODH RAMAIAH ; Will been maintained- the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- ING be pleased to refer to the reply In June, 1984, the State Government gi^ren to Unstarred Question No. 5926 on requested for increasing its monthly allo- 2 April, 1984 regarding removal of cation of rice. This request could anomaly in CPWD Enquiry offices and not be agreed to because of paucity of state : rice stocks in the central pool. . I 1 (a) whether tlic decision to transfer Factory Road Civil Enquiry Oificc of F. In February, 1985, the State Govern- Division under New Delhi Zone of ment requested for additional allocation CPWD to Food Zone has been imple- of 4,500 tonnes of imported edible oils to mented; and meet the increased dennand during festivals like ‘Holi’. This request could not be (b) if not, the reasons therefor ? agreed to as Gujarat is an oil producing Sta^ and the allocation of imported THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND edible oils to States is only supplementary HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): |n nature. (a) No. Sir. i i 7 fi'r/tten Answers; CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 i 8 (b) The said Enquiry Office is exclusi- Export o f Orcuiges^ fresh or dried vely for the maintenance of requisitioned houses of the Ministry of Defcncc. That (Quantity: In tonnes) Ministry made a commitment to take (Value : Rupees in lakhs over the maintenance of these quarters from CPWD by June 1984. Despite best Year Quantity Value efforts no final decision has been taken 1980-81 7090 127.50 yet. It has, therefore, not been consi- dered appropriate to transfer the Civil 1981-82 7124 135.51 Enquiry Office from New Delhi Zone to 1982-83 1015 17,09 Food Zone till a final decision is taken (Upto Nov. 82) to transfer the maintenance of these houses back to the Ministry of Defence. Oranges were mainly exported to Bangladesh. Orange Prodaction in West Bengal And Export Thereof Use of Imported Oil for rnanufactiire of Vanaspati 927. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND 928. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL sUte ; SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) whether West Bengal is producing (a) whether Vanaspati manufacturer oranges: have been directed to use compulsorily the high priced imported oils; and (b) if so, details thereof; (b) if so, the reasons thereof ? (c) whether Government are export- ing orange from West Bengal; THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (d) if so, where and total quantity SINGH) : (a) and (b). Presently Vanaspati exported during each of the last three manufacturers can use 100% indigenous years; and oils or a maximum of 60% imported oils (e) the State and Central Government’s in lieu thereof. Imported oils are supplied earnings from such export ? through State Trading Corporation at a significantly low price of Rs. 9,500 per THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- M.T. TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) ; (a) and (b). Purchase of Wheat from Opeo Market Yes, Sir. The Jalpaiguri and Siliguri dis- tricts of West Bengal are the important 929. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE : orange growing districts. Rough estimates Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL for Citrus crop in West Bengal are given SUPPLIES be pleased to state : below : (a) whether North Zone Flour Mills ( Chambers have urged the Government to (Area : thousand ha.) allow the flour mills to purchase wheat (Production: thousand tonnes) from the open market; and 1980-81 1981-82 (b) if so, Govenunent’s reaction thereto ? Areii 3.42 3.70 Production 26.25 '28.25 THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) to (e). State-wise data on export of oranges are not available. However, (b) It has not been possible to consi- export of oranges, fresh or dried, from der the request, as the present policy does India during the years 1980-81 to 1982-83 not permit roller fiour mills to purchase (upto November, 1982) is given below . wheat in the open market. ii9 Written Answers MARCA 25. 1985 'Written Answers 1^6 Representations from Potato Growers Master Plan for Delhi/New Delhi for In West Bengal Transport System 930. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK : 931. SHRI DHARAMPAL SINGH Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE MALIK : Will the Minister of WORKS AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be AND HOUSING be pleased to state : pleased to state : (a) whether a tentatively modified (a) whether Government have received Master Plan for Delhi/New Delhi and any representations from the Potato some parts of the walled city for trans- growers of West Bengal expressing their port system is imder consideration of difficulties due to falling prices; and Government; (b) if so, main features of the plan; (b) if so, whether Government have taken any action for protecting their (c) funds allocated for the purpose; Interests ? and THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (d) by what time it will be introduced ? AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRi THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND •BUTA SINGH) : (a) and (b). Represen- HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): tations have been received from potato (a) and (b). The Master Plan for Delhi growers of West Bengal about fall in promulgated in 1962 is proposed to be prices of potatoes. At the request of the modified. The Master Plan for Delhi W THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ments are enforcing the provisions of the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Essential Commodities Act and similar BROADCASTING . (SHRI V. N. legislations to curb the activities of GADGIL) ; (a) and (b). An expenditure boarders and blackmarketeers and other of Rs. 695.68 lakhs was incurred by the anti-social elements. Directorate of Advertising and Visual Publicity in 1984 for publicising the Intcr-State Wage Parity in Beedi policies of the Government through the Industry media of press advertising, exhibitions, printed publicity etc. This included an 934. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will the amount of Rs. 387.21 lakhs spent on Minister of LABOUR 'be pleased to release of advertisements—both display state : ftnd classified— to the newspapers. (a) whether Government propose to (c) Whereas the level of publicity is introduce Inter*State wage parity in the generally proposed to be maintained, the b«edi industry of South India; and Budget Estimates for 1985-86 in respect of Directorate of Advertising and Visual (b) if so, the details thereof ? Publicity on visage a marginal increase in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the allocation of funds for the purpose in MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. view of cost escalation. ANJIAH) : (a) No, Sir. Price of Essential CommoditleJ (b) Does not arise. 933. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : Representation for Increasing House Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Construction Assistance for SUPPLIES be pleased to state : Rural Workers (a) whether any study has been made 935. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : Will the lo know the causes of the rising prices of Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING essential commodities in the country; be pleased to state : (b) if so» what are the j&ndings; and (a) whether Government received representations for increasing house (c) what steps are being taken to check construction assistance for rural workers; the trend in rise of prises of essential and commodities in the country ? (b) if so, the reaction of Government THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND thereto ? CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). While no special THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Study has been made by the Central HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : Government to examine the causes of (a) Yes, Sir. ■ rising prices of essential commodities in * general, their prices are being continuously (b) Representations have been examined. Final view will taken when the monitored by the Central and State be Seventh Plan is finalised. Governments with a view to taking appropriate remedial action as and when necessary. Loss to Crops due to Insufficient Rains (c) The main thrust of Government policy has been to increase the production 936. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH of essential commodities particularly the MALIK : ones which are in short supply. The SHRI HARISH RAWAT : public Distribution System is being Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE expended and improved. The supplies of AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be some essential commodities arc supple- pleased to slate : mented by imports. The export of essential coffljnoditiea is regulated. State Oovern- (a) whether there have been insuflBcient ]23 iVriften Answers MARCH 25, 1 98$ Wri{ten Answers IM rams during (he last four-five months (li) Assessment of fish resources in various parts of the country; in the country by a team of scientists. (b) the extent to which it has affected the crops and estimated Joss of crops as (iii) Banning of purse-sciners in a result thereof in each State; and territorial waters. (c) what steps are being taken by (iv) Production of inboard and Government to provide relief to the outboard engines and their farmers ? spare parts in the public sector and establishment ctf THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE training centres in this AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl regard. BUTA SITSGH) : (a) Yes. Sir. Rain- fall has been generally deficient or scanty, (v) Availability of inboard and as compared to normal, over major part outboard engines and their of the country during the North-east spare parts free of texes and monsoon period October-December, 1984 excise duty. Availability of and the winter season January-Fcbruary, sufficient quota of kerosene 1985. to fishermen. (b) Insufficient winter rains have (vi) Joint ventures for exploita- aflfccted the crops in some States, However, tion of deep sea fish the rabi crops are still to be harvested resoures. and as such at this stage it is not possible (vii) Restriction of trawling and to indicate the extent of estimated loss of purse-seining during night crops. and during spawning season. (c) The crop-weather situation is (viii) Establishment of Fishermen's constantly under review and availability Welfare Corporation m all of electricity and agricuJtural inputs is the coastal Slates. being monitored in consultation with the State Government. (ix) To develop aquaculture both in freshwater and coastal Enactment of Mariiie Regulation Laws waters. 937. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH (c) The memorandum received recently MALFK ; Will the Minister of AGRI- is under examination. CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP- MENT be pleased to state : Grapes Cultivation in Drought Prone Areas (a) whether National Fishermen's forum of India has recently represented to Government for enactment of Marine 938. SKRT SATYENDRA NARAlN Regulation Laws; SINHA : Will the Minister of AGRl. CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP*- (b) if so, the detailsof the memo- MENT be pleased to state : randum presented; and (a) whether there is considerable f>copc (c) reaction of Government thereto ? for grape eultivation, particularly in THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE drought prone areas of the country; AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT [SHRI (b) if so, whether grape cultivation is BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. being extended to benefit lar^c number of (b) The salient details are ; farmers; (i) Enactment of Marine Fishing (c) whether there are any constraints Regulation Acts by Coastal in further extending grape cultivation; States. and 125 Written Answers CHAITRA 4. 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 126 (d) whether Government will also Two projects for red oil Palm consider developing a wine industry as an Plantations have been taken up in imporlant agro-industry for rural areas ? Kerala and Andaman and Nicobar Islands where suitable agro-climatic THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE conditions exist for IIS’ cultivation. So AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI far, 3,705 hectares have ceen planted BUTA SJNGH) ; (a) and (b). There Is in Kerala and 1,300 hectares in con&iderablc scope of grape cultivation in Andaman and Nicobar Islands. the country, in the drought prone areas, however, this crop can't be grown with- iTrans/at/nn] out assured irrigation. Area under this crop is going up. Krishi Vlgyan Kendras (c) Yes, Sir. Grape cultivation requires assured water supply for irrigation, heavy 940. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : initial investment and adoption of proper Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE cultivation techniques. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (d) Production of varieties suitable for wine is not enough now. Moreover, there (a) the places in the country where the is a ban on creation of additional capacity Indian Council of Agricultural Research or expansion of existing capacities for has opened TCrishi Vigyan Kendras’; the distillation or brewing alcoholic drinks objectives and the dates of opening there- including wind except in 100 per cent of and the expenditure incurred on each export-oriented cases. of them; Supply of Palm OH through F.P.S. (b) whether any assessment of their work was ever undertaken; 939. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN (c) if so, whether Government are in SINHA : Will the Minister of FOOD possession of information in respect of AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to those ‘Kendras’ which have faild to state : achieve their objectives; (n) whether supply of Palm Oil through (d) if so, in which areas they are fair price shops is being extended to all located; Slates; (e) whether Government would open a (h) whether there is any consumer Krishi Vigyan Kendra in Pali district of resistance to Palm Oil; and Rajasthan; and (c) if not, the steps being taken to (f) if so, by what time and if not, the incrcace palm Oil availability and local reasons thereof ? manufacture of Palm Oil ? THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI a v l L SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA BUTA SINGH) : (a) A list of Krishi SINGH) : (a) Imported edible Palm Oil Vigyan Kendras, their locations, date of is being allocated to some of the States sanction and their sanctioned allocations for distribution through fair price shops. under the VI Plan is given in the State- !t is proposed to cover more States, ment attached. The objectives of the (b) No complaint about consumer's Krishi Vigyan Kendra in general are as resistance to Palm Oil has been rec«ivcd follows : from any State Government to whom Palm Oil is allocated. 1. Planning and conducting survey of the operational area in order to (c) The following steps have been taken prepare a resources inventory with by the Central Government to increase special rcfcrence to identifying the availability of Palm Oil and local the training needs of the farming nianufaciure of Palm Oil. community; 127 Written Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers 128 2. Planning and conducting produc- nutrition education for the rural tion-oriented, need-based short community; and long duration training courses both on the campus as well as in 9. Gradually enlarging the training the villages for various target facilities to encompass other groups with priority to the weaker important areas such as home and the poor; crafts cottage industries etc. consistent with the requirements 3. Developing and organising non- of integrated rural development, formal educational programmes in collaboration with the concern- by way of field days, farm visits, ed organisations; farmer’s fair, radio talk, Farm 10. Implementing all such schemes of Science Clubs etc. as the follows- the ICAR and other related up information support to train* oi^nisations which intend to ing courses; strengthen the training pro- 4. Organising Farm Science Clubs, grammes of the Kendra. both in rural schools and in € villages in order to induce in the (b) Yes, Sir. A High-Level Evalua- younger generation a liking for tion Committee has already evaluated the and an interest in agricultural and performance of the Krishi Vigyan Kendras allied sciences and for scientific and the Trainers’ Training Centres during farming through supervised pro- 1980. jects; (c) The Evaluation Committee hai 5. Developii^ and itiaintaining brought out the strong and weak points campus farms and demonstration of the Kendras and has given recom- units on scientific lines as facili- menodations for improving the project ties for providing work-experi- performance. Appropriate action has ence to the trainees as also also been taken by the Council on the disseminating the latest technical recommendations. know-how; (d) Does note arise. 6. Providing practical training facilities of the Kendra to the (e) The target of establishing Krishi teachers and the students of voca- Vigyan Kendras in the Sixth Five Year tional agriculture of the higher * Plan has already been achieved. During secondary schools; this plan, therefore, it may not be possible to open a Krishi Vigyan Kendra in Pali 7. Imparting some general education district of Rajasthan, to rural illiterates and school (f) If Government approves the estab- drop-outs in order to make them lishment of more Krishi Vigyan Kendras not only good farmers but also during the Seventh Five Year Plan, the better citizens; proposal to establish a Krishi Vigyan Providing added training facilities Kendra at Pali can be considered at that in the areas of home-making and stage. 129 Written Answers C H A im A 4 ,1907 (SAKA) Written Answer^ 13Q Stateme n Budget allocation and date of start [sanction of Krishi Vigyan Kendras for Sixth Five Year plan Name of Krishi Vigyan Kendra Budget alloca- Date of start/ tion (Rs. in lakh) sanction 1 2 3 * 1. Hayatnagar, Hyderabad (A.P.) 19.28 April, 1977 2. Gaddipally (A.P.) 10.12 16.7.84 3. Rajahmundry (A,P.) 12.66 1.4.83 4. Anantpur (A.P.) 13J6 22.4.83 5. Amdalvalsa (A.P.) 11.81 16.7.84 6. Rastakuntabi (A.P.) 12.34 3.3.84 7. Basar (Arunachal Pradesh) 23.74 May, 1979 8. Munger (Bihar) 23.06 April, 1980 9. Banka (Bihar) 15.91 2.4.83 10. Sokhodeora (Bihar) 20.82 June, 1979 11, Putida (Bihar) 15,91 2.4.83 12. Agwanpur (Bihar) 11.26 14.3.84 13. Ranchi (Bihar) 24.61 1.2.77 14. Fatchpur, Deoghar (Bihar) 8.98 25.2.84* 15. Hazaribagh (Bihar) 8.98 25.2.85 16. Napani (Assam) 21.54 Feb., 1980 17. Gassaigaon (Assam) 9.18 Jan., 1985* 18. Ela Farm (Goa) 14.01 1.4.83 19. Deesa (Gujrat) 19.06 4.12.76* 20. Dcogarh Baria (Gujrat) 14.72 1.1.83 21. Waghai (Gujarat) 12.72 22.10.84* 22. Randheja Gram (Gujarat) 17.49 15.10.79 23. Shikohpur-Rampura (Haryana) 20.68 April, 1984 24. Kama! (Haryana) 20.80 July, 1976 L L T n t9> ! Cn *j 3 •» n 'Z 'L i rr'o t , (on^JCS) »s*na»s '£9 Written Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers 132 V‘ 1 2 3 31. Mudigere (Karnataka) 10.36 Feb,, 1985* 32. Bidar (Karnataka) 10.36 Feb., 1985* 33. Hulkoti (Karnataka) 10.86 Feb., 1985* 34. Narakkal (Kerala) 25.81 Dec., 1976 35. Mitraniketan (Kerala) 21.24 Feb., 1980 36. Pattambi (Kerala) 18.46 Nov., 1982 * 37. Ambalvayal (Kerala) 11.81 1.6.84 38. Bilaspur (M.P.) 11.27 19.6.84* 39. Chhindwara (M.P.) 13.01 April, 1984 40. Jhabua (M.P.) 11.27 1.9.84 41. Indore (M.P.) 12.26 20th Nov., 1976 42. Bhopal (M.P.) 27.97 Sep., 1978 43. Kosbad Hill (Maharashtra) 15.61 April, 1977 44. Sclsura (Maharashtra) 21.68 27.12.1979 45. Aurangabad (Maharashtra) 13.34 1.9.83 46. Shirgaon (Maharashtra) 14.34 June, 1983 47. Dhule (Maharashtra) 13.49 9.5.83 48. Pal (Maharashtra) 10.37 1.8.84 49. Lamphelpet (Manipur) 23.01 March, 1980 50. Tura (Meghalaya) 23.77 27.5.1980 51. Kolasib (Mizoram) 22.99 July, 1977 52. Jharnapani (Nagaland) 23.51 5.3.79 53. Dhauli (Orissa) 23.50 3.1.77 54. Keonjhar (Orissa) 15.26 28.5.82 55. Simliguda (Orissa) 15.26 11.1.82 56. Balia pal (Orissa) 15.26 11.2.83 57, Bhanjnagar (Orissa) 12.33 25.2.85* 58. Pondicherry (Pondicherry) 29.63 25.3.74 59, Gurdaspur (Punjab) 16.45 1.4.82 60. F. Sekhawati (Rajasthan) 25.31 Jan., 1977 61. Becchwal (Rajasthan) 14.18 10.12.83 62. Banswara (Rajasthan) 14.28 J u n e ,1983 63. Jodhpur (Rajasthan) 14.02 1.4.83 64. Badgaon (Rajasthaii> 13.10 27.2.84 133 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 iSAKA) Written Answers 134 1 2 3 67. Coonoor (T.N.) 15.51 1.11.82 68. Coimbatore (T.N.) 20.13 2.5.79 69. Kattupakkam (T.N.) 10.17 24.8.84* ■ 70. Chhebrikhowari (Tripura) 23.25 Dcc., 1979 71. Birchandra Nagar (Tripura) 14.82 May,, 84* 72. Sultanpur (U.P.) ' 22.50 Nov., 1976 73. Awagarh (U.P.) 15.81 1.11.82 74. Ranichauri (U.P.) 16.36 14.9.82* 75. Bharari (U.P.) 14.82 19.3.83* 76. Dariapur Farm, Rai Bareily 11.93 1984* 77, Bcreilly (U.P.) 8.95 Jan., 1985* 78. Bahraich (U.P.) 16.50 22.3.84 79. Basti (U.P.) 9.30 Jan., 85* 80. Mirzapur (U. P.) 15.22 March, 84* 81, Raya, Mathura (U.P.) 15.97 March, 84* 82. Kapgari (West Bengal) 22.22 1.12.76 83. Nimpith (West Bengal) 23.94 2.5.79 84. Kakdwip (West Bengal) 21.60 Dec., 1979 85. Ramshai (West Bengal) 14.99 March, 1983* 86. Sonamukhi (West Bengal) 15.59 March, 1983* 87. Sujitra (Gujrat) 8.72 March, 1985 * Date of sanction. [English} (d) what steps have been taken by Government to avoid adulteration in the Requirement of Vegetable Oil in vegetable oil ? the Country THE • MINISTER OF FOOD AND 941. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAG A : CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Will the Minister, of FOOD AND CIVIL SINGH) : (a) and (b). The requirement! SUPPLIES be pleased to state : production and import of vegetable oils (edible) during the last 3 years have been (a) the details of requirements of the as under ; country in respect of vegetable oil during the last three years with year-wise break- Year Requirement Production Import up; 1981-82 43.81 33.83 9.98 (b) what is the year-wise production 1982-83 43.71* 30.21 11.50 of vegetable oil in the country and also 1983-84 49.34 33*00 16.34 year-wise imports; ♦The figure is lower as the total (c) what steps arc being contemplated availability (indigenous production plus to meet the shortage of vegetable oil in import, shown as the Requirement) of the country; and edible oils in 1982-83 was lower^ ■ 13) Written Answer& kA RCH 15, 1985 Written Answers 136 (c) Concerted efforts are being made from the market and take action as pres- by the Government of India to attain sclf- cribed under the Act in respect of failing iuflSciency in vegetable oils in the country. samples. Towards this end, the following measures have been taken : Sale of Plots/Shops through Auction (1) Intensive pro^amme for develop- by D.D.A. ment of oilseeds in oilseed producing States. The scheme 942. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : aims at demonstration on farmers’ Will the Minister of WORKS AND fields, strengthening of seed pro- HOUSING be pleased to state : duction and distribution arrange- ment, expansion of plant pro- (a) the reasons for following policy of tection measures, extension of selling plots/shops by auction by D.D.A. irrigated areas etc. (b) whether the policy of selling by (2) Launching of special projects on auction is being followed by concerned production of groundnut in authorities in other Metropolitan cities; Saurashtra region of Gujarat and and Soyabean in Madhya Pradesh. (c) if so, whether this policy is causing (3) Better incentive to producers inflation and escalation of land prices ? through fixation of minimum support prices. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : Intensification of research efforts (a) The scheme of Large Scale Acquisi- for increasing the productivity tion, Development and Disposal of land of oilseeds. in Delhi lays down that as a general policy, disposal of developed land should (5) Increase in area under non-tra- be made by auction and the premium ditional oilseed crop like soyabean should be determined by the highest bid and sunflower and exaploitation except in the following cases where of oilseeds of tree and forest predetermined rates are charged : origin, rice bran etc. (i) alternative residential plots offered (6) Setting up of necessary pro- to the persons whose lands are cessing and infrastructural facilities acquired under the scheme for to keep pace with the production the planned development of Delhi; programme of oilseeds. (ii) Industrialists asked to shift theif (d) In terms of the provisions of the factories from their present non- Solvent Extracted Oils, De-oiled Meal and conforming locations. Edible Flower (Control) Order, 1967 and Vegetable Oils Product (Control) Order, (iii) Individuals in Low and Middle 1947, the samples of vegetable oils pro* Income Groups. duced by these factories are periodically (iv) Cooperative House Building collected by the Inspectors of this Societies and Cooperative Directorate, The samples are got analysed Societies of Industrialists and in the laboratory of the Directofate Manufacturers for constructing to check conformity of the samples to residential houses. the standards of Quality laid down under the relevant Control Order. Appropriate (v) Land allotted for the Central/State bctlon is taken in respect of failing Government Departments, Public Sairiplfts. Besides, in terms of the provi* Sector Undertakings and othsr sions of Prevention of Food Adulteration Governtment Organisations for Act* the Food Inspectors of Ministry of construction of oflBce accommoda*- H*alth also draw samples of vegetable oils tion and staff quarters. i^7 Written Answers CHAJTRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 158 This policy has also been reiterated in THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Rule 8 of the Delhi Development Autho- CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA rity (Disposal of Developed Nazul Land) SINGH) : (a) No, Sir; the stock of Rules, 1981. The total area of land foodgrains with the public agencies as on disposed of by DDA through auctions is 1-1-1985 was 22.61 million tonnes. insigni6cant compared to the land acquired for planned development of Delhi. The (b) Yes, Sir; the overall position resources generated through auction of improved during the year. commercial plots are utilized for meeting the cost of development of land under the (c) The latest stock position of food- scheme. grains as on 1-3-85 was 21.91 million tonnes. The built up shops being commercial properties are disposed of by DDA through (d) The slock position of wheat and auction, through restricted tendering, etc. rice as on 1st January, 85 was 14.80 These are also allotted by way of alterna- million tonnes and 7.71 million tonnes tive/rehabilitational allotment to those respectively. While the wheat stocks have whose lands have been acquired. The allot- exceeded the required level, the rice stocks ment is made through restricted tendering are on the lower side. to the members of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes, and through the same (e) Yes, Sir. The strategy of price method among the ex-servicemen. The support has contributed to increase in physically handicapped persons are allotted production of rice in the country in through draw of lots. general. (b) and (c). The information is being (f) The stocks with the public agencies collected and will be laid on the Table on are built up through- procurement opera- the House. tions in the country and also through imports when considered necessary. Stock of Foodgrains (g) No, Sir, there is no proposal for imports at present. 943. SHRI B. V. DESAI : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : Restrictions on Lending by Commercial Banks to Build Houses (a) whether the foodgrains stocks with Government have touched 25 million 944. SHRI B. V. DESAI ; Will the tonnes at the begining of January, 1985; Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be (b) if so, whether food stocks have pleased to state i been comperatively better during 1984; (a) -whether the National Conference (c) if so, the latest position in regard sponsored by his Ministry has urged the Reserve Bank of India to lift restrictions to the food stocks; on lending by commercial banks to build (d) whether wheat and rice have also houses; exceeded the targets set for the same; (b) whether his Ministry had also (e) whether on production side the discussions with the banking department strategy of price incentive had the desired on giving credit on concessional terms for impact on rice producing and consuming construction of houses; States; (c) if so, whether several other steps (f) steps being taken by Government are being undertaken by his Ministry in to improve the food stocks; and this regard; and I (g) whether import are being consi- (d) if so, to what extent Reserve Bank dered to keep sufficient stocks of food- of India has agreed to lift curbs on grains with the Government ? housing loans ? 1 f 139 Written Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers 140 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND of recommendations docs not arise at this HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : stage. (a) The opinion of the lateraction parti- cipents was that the Government should Constitution of All India Fishermen move the Reserve Bank of India to Commission liberalise the restrictions on commercial bank loans for shelter. 946. SHRI AJOy BISWAS ; Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (b) to (d). The consensus of opinion RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to emerged in the Interaction is being proces- state : sed for further action. (a) whether Government have any Recommendations of ConfereDCC plan to set up “All India Fishermen Organised by the Council of Indian Commission’* to study the problems of Employers at Bangalore fishermen of the country; 945. SHRI B. V. DESAI : WilJ the (b) if so, when this Commission will Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state ; be constituted; and (a) whether the Centre has contemplat- (c) if not, the reasons thereof ? ed establishment of standing bodies of experts for making recommendations on THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE wages of employees in both the public and AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI private sectors; BUTA SINGH) : (a) No. Sir. (b) if so, whether a body will collect (b) Does not arise. information and lay down parameters from (c) Problems of fishermen arc being time to time; taken care of under various Central as (c) whether a two day conference well as Slate Governments' schemes organised by the Council of Indian Emplo- introduced for welfare of fishermen. yers was held in Bangalore in the first week of February, 1985; Cases Pending in Labour Courts (d) if so, the main recommendations 947. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the of the conference; and Minister of LABOUR be pleased to (e) whether enactment of any legis- state ; lation is being considered in this regard ? (a) the number of cases pending in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE different labour courts of the country MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. upto the end of 1984; and ANJIAH) : (a) and (b;. The question of evolving a national wage policy has been (b) what steps Government are taking under consideration of the Government to dispose of the pending eases ? for quite some time. Various suggestions THE MINISTER OF STATE OF received in this regard are being examined. THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI No decision has so far been taken regard- ing the manner in which the wage policy T. ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). 1183 casei and 2796 applications are pending before has to be implemented, if ^ d when 10 central Government Industrial Tribunal finalised. cum Labour Courts. The Central (c) to fe). It is a fact that a two day Government have set up two Industrial Industrial Relations Conference was orga- Tribunal cum Labour Courts at Chandi- nised by the Council of Indian Employers garh and Kanpur and have laid down at Bangalore in the first week of February, the norms of disposal of disputes and 1985. However, Government have not the progress is monitored. The Industrial received any recommendations of the Disputes Act, 1947 has been amended so Conference from the Council of Indian as to provide time bound disposal of Employers. In view of this, the question disputes. The Industrial Disputes of considering any legislation on the line* (Central) Rules, 1957 have been amended 141 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 142 to provide time frame for different stages (b) the targets fixed and actual pro- for disposal of disputes. The State duction of milk in Punjab during 1981-82; Governments/Union Territories set up 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-83; Labour Courts and Industrial Tribunals (c) the daily average milk produced for cases and applications in the Slate per cow and buffalo in Punjab vis-a- sphere. As per available information, vis average per family per day milk 1,90,086 cases were pending in the States/ produced; Union Territories before the Industrial Tribunal/Labour Courts as on 31.3.1984. (d) the year-wise targets set under Operation Flood-II for Punjab and what Milk Production in Punjab under were actual achievements; and Operation Flood-II (e) whether Government are satisfied 948. SHRTMATI GEETA with milk procurement in Punjab and if MUKHERJEE : Will be Minister of not corrective measures proposed ? AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE- THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE LOPMENT be pleased to state : AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (a) the private and public sector BUTA SINGH) : (a) The quantity of agencies which procure, collect and handle milk procured and distributed by the milk in Punjab and quantity of milk private and cooperative sector organisations produced and distributed as on 29 as on 29 February, 1984, 30 October, February, 1984, 30 October, 1984, 1984, ] January, 1985 and 28 February, 1 January, 1985 and 28 February, 1985; 1985 is given below :— 29.2.84 30.10.84 1.1.85 28,2.85 Private Companies - (a) Procurement (lakh Kgs.) 4.37 4.21 6.04 6.40 (b) Distribution (lakh Kgs.) — — Punjab State Cooperative Milk Producer’s Federa- tion Limited. (a) Procurement {lakh litres) 3.64 3.26 5.47 6.05 (b) Distribution (laks litres) 1.71 1.47 2.55 2.97 (b) The targets fixed and the estimated milk production in Punjab during 1981-82, 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 are given below ’ ' (’000 tonnes) Year Targets Estimated milk production 1981-82 3514 3494 1982-83 3750 3599 1983-84 3997 3620 1984-85 4254 3810 (Anticipated) (c) The estimated average milk yield per day per animal in milk is given below ; (in Kgs.) Year Cow Buffalo Cross-bred Local cow 1981-82 ^ 5.856 2.658 3.813 1982-83 5.325 2.632 3.951 1983-84 5.585 2.963 3.867 143 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 144 The information regarding average per family per day milk produced is not available. (d) The estimated milk production in Punjab has increased since 1970 due to the impact of various Central, Centrally Sponsored and the State Plan Schemes which also includes Operation Flood Programmes, The year-wise targets set under Operation Flood-ll and actual achievement for milk procurement are given below : (Figures in lakh litres per day) 1980-81 81-82 82-83 83-84 84-85 85-86 86-87 Target 0.70 1.78 4.42 6.64 9.07 12.02 14,89 Achievement 0.92 1,47 3.85 2.74 3.23 — — (Upto Jan. 1985) (e) During the year 1983-84, procure- (b) The DDA has served notices under ment of milk was less as compared to the section 31(1) of the Delhi Development previous year due to the fact that the Act, 1957 and passed demolition orders price of ghee was more during that period in 60 cases of unauthorised construction and the producers retained maximum including the 11 cases mentioned against quantity of milk for conversion into ghee. (a) above, basides launching prosecutions However, the milk procurement has in Criminal Courts in 25 cases. picked up during 1984-85. (c) The P.W.D., Delhi Administration Unathorised Construction in have reported that there are no permanent East Delhi structures on the footpaths and sideways of the Vikas Marg in these areas. How- 949. SHRI KAMAL NATH : Will ever, there are squatters and collection the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS- of building materials in small quantity ING be pleased to state : which are purely of temporary nature and are being removed now and then. (a) whether it has come to the notice of Government that multi-storeyed build- ings with underground floors have come Scheme for Development of Towns in the Country up on both sides of Vikas Marg in Shanar- pur and Lakshmi Nagar in East Delhi without caring for any municipal regula- 950. SARI AMARSINH RATHAWA ; tions as no building regulations have yet SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : been enforced in these areas; Will the Minister of WORKS AND (b) the steps taken by Government to HOUSING be pleased to state : prevent such unauthorised constructions; and (a) whether there is any Centrally sponsored schemc for development' of (c) whether Government propose to towns in the country; clear the footpaths/side-ways of the Vikas Marg in these areas ? (b) if so, the details thereof and the amount earmarked for each State under THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND the project; and HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) r (a) The DDA has reported that, amongst (c) the number of towns in each ^Stato the cases of unauthorised construction on likely to be developed under the scheme Vikas Marg, there are 11 cases with and names of such towns which are underground floors out of which two arc likely to be developed in Gujarat aoct ^Dder construction. Orissa ? 145 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 146 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 4. The towns taken up under the HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR): Scheme were entitled to Central assistance (a) Yes, Sir. provided in the form of a loan to the extent of 50% of the cost of the project or (b) A note is attached in the form of Rs. 40.00 lakhs, whichever is less. The a statement-I which gives the details of Central loan is normally released tin suit- the Scheme. A Statement II is also able instalments at an interest rate of attached as indicating the tentative 1\% per annum subject to a rebate of amounts earmarked for each State in for timely repayment. TTie repayment 1984-85. period is 25 years including a raoratoriuna (c) This will be decidedafter finalisa- of 5 years. tion of 7th Plan. 5. The components eligible for central assistance under the Scheme are as Statcment-I follows :— • The Centrally Sponsored Scheme for (i) land acquisition and develop* > the Integrated Development of Small ' ment; and Medium Towns was introduced under (ii) traffic and transportation the Central sector in December, 1979 to including construction of roadi promote the development of smaller towns and bus stand but excluding in order to subserve the development of purchase of vehicles; and • the rural hinterland and to reduce the rate of migration of population to (iii) development of mandis and metropolitan cities. Initially 13 towns with markets, industrial estates and a population of less than 1 lakh were other facilities. covered. • I 6. The components in the State Plan 2. In the 6th Five Year Plan, approval include slum improvement, urban renewal, ’ of 200 additional towns with a population small scale industries, water supply, of less than 1 lakh according to 1971 sewarage, drainage and sanitation, census were taken up. medical facilities, parks and playgrounds. ' 3. A total number of 321 towns were 7. Low Cost Sanitation has since been • allotted to different States in accordanc*; included as an additional item for central with the proportion which the urban loan assistance under the Scheme. Under podulation of the State bore to the urban this component, a sum of Rs. 15.00 lakhs population of the country in 1971. A would be released to the State Govern- few additional towns were included in ments over and above the ceiling o^ the Scheme one each in Manipur, Tripura, Rs. 40.00 lakhs provided the State Kerala, Orissa, Meghalaya and Jammu Governments spend atleast Rs. 12.00 and Kashmir making a totol of 237, lakhs out of their own funds on low coSt towns. sanitation. Staiement-ll Tentative allocation of funds to various StatesjUTs for 1984-85 under Integrated Development of Small & Medium Towns. Si State/U.Ti Towns Allocation of funds 84-85 Total No. allocation For IDSMT For Law Cost alloca- Sanitation tion t 2 3 4 5 6 1. Andhra Pradesh 18 81.00 36.00 117.00 2. 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Enquiry into the Diversion of Truck THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND carrying Sugar to Faridabad CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA- 952. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE SINGH) : (a) Initially some delay PATIL : Will the Minister of FOOD AND occurred in the settlement of these claims^ CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : due to administrative/legal diflScultios. However, by and large, delays have (a) whether Government’s attention occurred because of factories furnishing has been drawn to the News in Hindustan incomplete, incorrect and wrong claims; Times, dated 25th February, 1985 (Behind dispite repeated instructions on the correct the scenes page 8 col. 8) that a few years procedure to be adopted. ago an entire truck load of sugar belonging to the Stare (Super Bazar, Connaught (b) The Annexure gives the position in Place, New Delhi) was diverted to Farida- details. Laid on the Table of the House. bad and sold there; [Placed in Library. See No. LT-642/85] (b) whether any inquiry into this episode was made; (c) Does not arise. (c) if so, the details thereof; and (d) The procedures are* under review with a view to taking steps for ensuring (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? that ■ payment of subsidy is made, as THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL expeditiously as is feasible. SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) The management of Super Bazar has Rise in Pricc Index due io intimated that it is not aware of any case Sweetening Agents of diversion of a truck load of sugar to 954. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Faridabad for sale and consequential loss PATIL : Will the Minister of LABOUR be to Super Bazar. According to Super Bazar, pleased to state : the news item which appeared in the Hindustan Times dated 212.1985 is not (a) whether Government have main- correct. ■ tained any record to determine how the (b) to (d). In view of reply at (a) above, sweetening agents dufing the last six the question docs not arise. months have pushed up tht Consumer Price Index in the country; Payment of Subsidy for holding (b) if so, the particulars thereof; and Buffer Stock of Sugar 953. SHRI BALASAHEB VlKHE (c) how much of it is due to sugar PATIL : Will the Minister of FOOD AND only ? CTVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state • * THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether it is a fact that under the MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T, present system long delays are occurring in ANJIAH): (a) to (c). Yes* Sin The Govern- payment of subsidy for holding buffer ment maintains a record of the impact of Stock of sufiar; two sweetening agents namely Sugar and t * * ' 151 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers is l Gur which are generally included in the on the All India Consumer Pricc Index index basket at each centre, as well as the Numbers for Industrial Workers (Base All India Index. The weights of Sugar and 1960=100) for the period of six months Gur in the All india index basket are 1.95 from August ’1984 to January, 1985, is and 0.70 respectively. A statement show- enclosed. ing the impcct of these sweetening agents Statement Year/Month All-India Difference Impact on All-India Index Index ( + / - ) *uger Gur Total (Sweetening Agents) 1 2 |3 4 5 6 1984 August 586 (+ ) 1 (-)0.13 (+)0.14 (+)0.01 September 589 ( + ) 3 (+)0.02 (-)0.02 0,00 October 592 ( + ) 3 (—)0.09 (-f-)0.06 (—)0.03 November 595 (+ ) 3 (+)0.15 (+>0.19 (—)0.04 December 588 (— ) 7 (-t-)0.09 (—)0.I5 (—)0.06 f 1985 January 588 — 0.00 (+)0.13 (+)0.03 \Translation\ [English] Construction of Types *C’ and ‘D’ Cheap Houses Built in Adivasi Quarters for Special Pools Districts 956. SHR! SOMNATH RATH ; Will 955. SHRI DILEEP SINGH the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING BHURIA : Will the Minister of WORKS be pleased to state : AND HOUSING be pleased to state ; (a) the various special pools constituted (a) whether it is a fact that Adivasis for providing accommodation to the do not live in the cheap houses built in Central Government employes in Delhi Adivasi districts as the same do not and New Delhi; conform to their needs; (b) the number of employees entitled for Type ‘C’ and Type ‘D* quarters in the (b) if so, whether Government have waiting lists as on 31st January, 1985 taken any action to increase the floor area under special pools; of these houses' or to make structural (c) the number of Types 'C* And 'D* changes in them; and quarters meant for special pools undef construction at present; I (q) if so, th^e details thereof ? (d) how many of those quarters are expected to released to different special THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND pools by the end of financial year 1985-86; HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) to (c). Housing is a State subject (e) whether there has been a slow and the type of houses to be constructed progress in the construction of thos« for a particular section of society or in a quarters; and pafticulat area is decided by the State (f) if so, the steps taken to expedit# Qovemmont/UTs. the construction works ? iil3 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 154 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Survey Regarding the Landless Families HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : in Rural Areas (a) to (f). The requisite iiiformation 958. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD 1b being collected and will be laid on the SETHI : Will the Minister of WORKS Table of the Sabha. AND HOUSING be pleased to state : Ground Nut oil in Gujarat and its (a) whether Government have conduct- Export ed any survey regarding the landless families in rural areas needing assistance 957. SHRI R. P. GAEKWAD : Will to construct houses of to improve their the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL existing housing facilities; SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (b) whether Government have also (a) the total requirement of edible oil mack; assessment regarding the landless in Gujarat and the total production of families covered by construction assistance groundnut during the last year; during the Sixth Five Year Plan; and (b) the quantity of groundnut oil- (c) if so, the details thereof ? exported during last year from Gujarat THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND out of the total production of groundnut HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL oil in the State; GHAFOOR) : fa) An enumeration of (c) whether the export represents the houseless population was conducted during surplus available in the state; the 1981 census operation. (b) Yes, Sir. . (d) whether the price of groundnut oil has risen anormally in spite of the fact (c) During the Sixth Plan period (Upto that Gujarat is one of the biggest ground- January, 1985) construction assistance has nut oilseed producing States; and been provided to 17.65 lakh families. (e) whether the State will be allowed Civic .Amenities in Small and Medium to meet its requirement of groundnut oil Towns of Bihar first before the same is exported out of the State ? 959. SHRIMATI KISHORl SINHA : Will the Minister of WORKS AND THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND HOUSING be pleased to state : CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) The total requirement of (a) the number of towns taken up in edible oil and production of groundnut in Bihar under the programme for improving Gujarat during last year was 2.96 and civic amenities in small and medium 19.41 lakh tonnes respectively. towns; (b) Export of groundnut oil is not (b) the details thereof; and permitted from the country under Import (c) whether any foreign aid has been ftnd Export Policy. made available for this programme ? (c) Does not arise in view of reply at THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (b) above. HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) and (b). 18 towns have been taken up (d) The prices of groundnut oil moved in Bihar under the Centrally Sponsored Up in March, 1984 but it showed declining Schem.e for the Integrated Development trend from August, 1984. of Small and Medium Towns. So far Central loan assistance has been released (e) There is no restriction on the inter- to 15 towns originally approved. state movement of edible oils in the ipountry^ Moreover, the Central Govern- The Scheme provides.for central loan ment have no control on the distribution assistance to the extent of 50% of the of indigenous edible oils in the States. post .of the project or Rs* 40,00 lakh* 155 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 156 whichever is less on matching basis. The additional item for central loan assistance components eligible for central assistance under the Scheme. Under this component, are land acquisition and development, a sum of Rs. 15.00 lakhs would be traffic and transportation including released to State Governments over and construction of roads and bus stand, above the ceiling of Rs. 40.00 lakhs development of markets and mandis, provided the State Government spends industrial estates and other facilities. The atleast Rs. 12.00 lakhs out of their own components in the State Plan includes funds on Low Cost Sanitation. slum improvement, urban renewal, small scale industries, w'ater supply, sewerage, A Statement is attached indicating the drainage and sanitation, medical facilities, releases made so far to Bihar. parks and by-grounds. Recently low Cost Sanitation has been included as an (c) No, Madam. Statement Statement Indicating the releases made to the Towns in Bihar approved under the Centrally Sponsored Scheme for the Integrated Development of Small and Medium Towns ; S.No. Name of the towns Funds released Funds released under IDSMT under Low Cost Proeramme Sanitation Scheme (Rs. in lakhs) (Rs. in lakhs) I. Hajipur 35.00 2.18 2. Gopalganj 20.00 1.15 3. Saharsa 4.00 — 4. Daltenganj 10.00 — 5. Dhapra 10.00 — 6. Dumka 18.50 — 7. Chaibasa 10.50 — 8. Begusarai 33.50 9. Deoghar 26.00 — 10. Arrah 26.00 11. Hazaribagh 7.50 6.70 12. Bettiah 29.00 7.87 13. Giridih 15.00 6.70 14. Dhanbad 12.00 2.91 * 15. Katihar 21.00 6.70 16. Siwan* 17. Sitamarhi* 18. Lishanganj* Total 238.00 34.21 ♦The three towns namely Siwan, Sitamarhi and Kishanganj have recently been included under the scheme. The financial allocations for these towns will be made only in the next financial year i.e. 1985-86. * 157 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 158 Poor functioning of TV Relay Stations THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- . 960. SHRI S. M. GURADDI: Will the ING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) Minister of INFORMATION AND and (b). Central Board of Film Certi- BROADCASTING be pleased to state : fication certify films suitable for public exhibition, after examining them in the (a) Whether several T.V. Relay Towers light of the guidelines issued by Central erected during the months of November Government under Section 58(2) of the and December, 1984 in different parts of Cinematograph Act, 1952. A copy of the the country have been out of order since guidelines is laid on the table of the last two months; house. [Placed in Library. Sec No. LT- 643/85] ’ (b) if so, their number and the rea- sons for large-scale failure of the func- (c) It is compulsory for the cinema tioning of these T.V. relay stations; and Licensee to regulate the exhibition or cinematograph films in a manner that at (c) whether Government have insti- every performance open to the public, an tuted any enquiry in this regard. ‘approved’ film is also shown. An ‘appro- ved’ film is one which is a scientific film, t h e m i n i s t e r o f s t a t e o f t h e film intended for educations purposes, film MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND dealing with new and current events, docu- BRODCASTTNG (SHRI V.N. GADGIL) : mentary film are catagorised as such by (a) to (c). No, Sir. These transmi- Film Advisory Board' set up by the tters arc generally functioning satisfacto- Central Government under Sub-Section rily. However, occasionally there are (4) of Section 12 of the Cinematograph interruptions due to technical faults or Act, 1952. power supply failure. Necessary action is immediately taken to attend to such (d) and (e). In as for as Films Division faults and provision of stand by diesel is concerned none of its documenteries/ generators at all transmitting centres to newsreels was banned, as such films do avoid such interruptions in transmission not contain any element of election pro- has been taken on hand. paganda. Criteria for Screening Pictures in Cinema Houses ILO's Recommendations Regarding Lifting of more than 50 Kgs. ' 961. SHRI S. M. GURADDI: Will Weight by Coolies the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state ; 962. SHRI S. M. GURADDI : Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to (a) whether the Central Board of Film state : CcrtificatioD has laid down any critaria with regard to screening of films and news (a) whether the I.L.O. recommendation reels in the public cinema houses; of prohibiting the carrying of bags weigh- ing more than 50 Kgs. by human beings (b) if so, the details thereof; on their heads, is accepted by Govern- ment; (c) whether it is compulsory to show news item before the start of every (b) if so, whether this practice has been f picture; in existence in many of the godowns of the Food ’ Corporation of India and (d) whether showing of the news reels Various godowns belonging to the Public which contain election propaganda is Sector; banned during the election days; and (c) whether Government propose to (e) whether Government are using prohibit this system by the introduction this teedia during election days as per the of a legislation during the present session; prescribed critcjia ? ' and " !59 Written Answers MARCH 25, *1985 Written Answers 149 (d) whether any incidents of death of Assistance for Natural Calamities in men and women workers in this process Orissa have been noticed by Government ? 964. SHRl LAKSHMAN MALLICK;, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRl T. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). The ILO Recom- pleased lo state : mendation, No. 128 concerning the Maxi- (a) whether Government extend mum Permissible Weight to be carried by financial assistance to State for damages one worker is in the nature of guidelines caused by natural calamities as they for the men>bcr countries. The packages hamper the development of agriculture; of different weights exceeding 50 kgs. are handled in the godowns of the Food (b) if so, whether Government of Corporation of India and the Central Orissa have requested Central Government Warehousing Corporation excepting wheat for financial assistance in this regard; and and rice for export purposes which are (c) if so, steps taken by Government packed in 50 kgs. bags by the Central or proposed to be taken to save human Warehousing Corporation and fertilisers lives, cattle heads and cropped areas from which are handled by the Food Corpora- severity of natural calamities ? tion of India and the Central Warehousing Corporation in 50 kgs. Bags. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl (c) There is no such propose!. BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. (d) There have been no incidents of (b) Yes, Sir. death of workers while handling bags weighing more than 50 kgs. in We rehouses (c) A ceiling of Central assistance to of the Food Corporation of India and the tune of Rs. 2342.90 lakhs has been Central Wcrchousing Corporation. sanctioned for relief and rehabilitation of flood affected people, repair and recons- Deaths of Workers due to truction of damaged property, Occupational Injury both public and private, inputs subsidy for farmers, etc. during 1984-85. La 963. SHRl CHITTA MAHATA ; Will addition, at the request of Government of the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to Orissa, the Central assistance for drought state ; affected areas of the State is under consi- deration. In the meanwhile, the Central (a) whether every three minutes a Government have released Rs. 5 crorw as worker dies of an occupational injury/ “On Account Payment” to the State illness; Government for meeting urgent expendi- (b) if so, the details thereof; turc. The State Government have also got a margin money of Rs. 871.00 laiths. (c) steps Government propose to take The Central assistance for drought cover* in this regard; and gratuitous relief, subsidy on agricultural inputs, drinking water supply, subsidy for (d) if no steps are proposed to be cattle feed/fodder, employment generation, taken the reasons therefor ? etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR fSHRl T. Production of Art FJims ANJIAH) ; fa) No, Sir. 965. SHRl EDUARDO FALEIRO s (b) Dose not arise. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (c) and (d). Instmctions are issued to state : ' State Governments and administrations of Union Territories from time to time to (a) whether Government are aware of ensure that the safety and health provi- the need to educate the public in sions of the Factories Act and Rules are cinematic values and to encourage'thp observed in this regard. production of art films; and _ 161 Written Answers CHAITRA 4. 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers (b) if so, steps contemplated in this in International Film Festivals regard ? and Indian Film Weeks in other countries and by recommending to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the State Governments and Union THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION Territory Administrations that AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. they should be exempted from GADGIL) : (a) Yes, Sir. payment of entertainment tax. (b) The following steps taken by the (v) The National Film Archive of Government aim at achieving these India, Pune has been making objectives : available on regular basis Indian (i) The National Film Development and foreign film classics to more Corporation, a public sector than 300 film societies/film clubs undertaking under the Central all over India for study and Government provides loans appreciation of good cinema. on concessional interest for National Film Archivc at India is production of good artistic films also organising Film Appreciation and also undertakes production of Programmes for the benefit of public at Pune and other cities. such films of its own. To ensure that good artistic films have adequate exhibition outlets, the Housing Schemcs for Goa Corporation provides loans for construction of low cost theatres 966. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO : in different parts of the country. Will the Minister of WORKS AND It also exhibits good quality, HOUSING be pleased to state : artistic films in Akashwani theatre, Bombay procured by it and in (a) whether Government arc aware of the theatres the construction of serious shortage of housing accommoda- which is financed by it. tion in the Union Territory of Goa; (ii) The Government organises every (b) if so, the steps proposed to be year a national film festival which taken in this regard; and aims at, inter alia, encouraging the production of films of aesthe- (c) the specific housing schemes pro- tic cxcellance and social relevance. posed for South Goa area ? (iii) The National Film Development THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Corporation also organises an HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) ; international film Festival every (a) As per the estimates made by Natio- year (a competitive International nal Building Organisation (NBO), the Film Festival of India in New current housing shortage in the Union Delhi and a non-competitive Territory of Goa Daman and Diu is Filmotsav in other importent 67,000 dwelling units. Indian cities, every alternative year) to expose the Indian Film (b) and (c). Housing is a State subject. makers and the public at large to State Governments/UTs are free to the excellence in the art of cinema formulate and implement Various social of the world. Housing schemes in accordance with their needs and plan priorities. (iv) Every year, the Government selects about 21 feature films ]TransIation] and some short films for the Indian Penerama Section of the Employment to the Students who international Film Festival of come out from Schools and India/rilmotsav, These films Colleges which are the best of the Indian cinema are given recognition in 967. SHRI BHARAT SINGH : Will Other ways. e.g. by entering them the Minister of LABOUR be pleased Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 164 to state tb<5 steps being taken Initially a list of -612 unauthorised by Government to provide employ- dolonies was drawn up by the DDA and ment to the students coming out of MCD for consideration for regularisa- schools and colleges, so as to remove tion but this was subsequently umemployment which is becoming acute revised to 607 colonies excluding day-by-day ? certain unauthorised colonies in notified slum areas and unauthorised extensions of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE villages. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANHAH) ; The Approach Paper to the The latest position about regularising Seventh Five Year Plan (1985-90) states these 607 unauthorised colonies is as that the generation of gainful employment under :— toough integration of the sectoral pro- duction plans with employment plans and Authority Colonics enlargement of on-going employment Colonies Cases programmes under a National Employ- regularised not regu- under ment Programme to cover specific larised/ proccss target groups will be emphasized in the rejected Seventh Plan. Employment schemes will D.D.A. 138 7 10 aim at the creation of durable assets, M.C.D. 400 skill formation and generation of perma- 49 3 nent and continuing employment with Total ; 538 56 13=637 progressively increasing incomes levels. In addition, the schemes will continue to It is not feasible to lay down any time promote self-employment in economically limit for this purpose. viable activities backed up by the ^ u isite training, credit, marketing and organisational linkages, [English] Regularisation of Colonies in Delhi Increase in Production of Oil Seeds to Curtail Import 4_ " 968. SHRI BHARAT SINGH : Will 969. SHRI MOHAMMAD the Minister of WORKS AND MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN : Will the HOUSING be pleased to state : Minister of- AGRICULTURE AND (a) whether Government recently gave RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to an assurance to regularise 612 unautho- state : iised colonics but no concretc steps have been taken in the matter so far; and (a) whether the Central Organisation of Oil Industry and Trade, Bombay has made certain suggestions to Government (b) the time by which these colonies to increase the domestic production of would be regularised ? oilseeds to minimise imports and to eliminate it ultimately; and THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND h o u s i n g (SHRI ABDUL (b) if so, the details thereof; and GHAFOOR) : (a) and (b). No assurance of the kind has recently been given by the (c) the reaction of Government Government, However, it had been decided thereto ? by Government on 16.2.1977 to regularise unauthorised colonies in Delhi covering THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- residential and commercial structures TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT constructed therein after fitting them into (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). a layout plan, keeping clear space for Yes, Sir. The Central Organisation for roads and other community facilities. Oil Industry and Trade has suggested The date for regularisation of the residential that a production target of 75-80 lakh structures was swbsequently e^t^ndedjto tonnes of vegetable oils might be achieved 30,6.1977, by the end of Seventh Plan. The measures 165 Written Ansv>ers CHAltRA'’4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers ifeS suggested for achieving this include * Policy for Appointment of Casual corporate/joint sector farming for the • Labour , iproduction of good variety seed, encourag- 971. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: ing plantation of oilseed bearing trees, Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased use of fallow and desert areas for oilseed to state : ^ cultivation, mcreasing irrigated area under oilseeds at last by one per cent, exemp- (a) whether there is any policy with tion of land under oilseed specially regard to appointment of casual labour in marginal and marshy lands from land the public sector enterprises; ^ revenue, putting into practices technologi- cal advances at farms’ level and increas- (b) whether Government have given ing the production of ricc bran oil. Such and directive to the Government depart- measures, among others, are taken into ments such as Railways, Post and Tele^ consideration by the Government while graphs and Telephones and Central formulating the programmes for oilseeds Public Works in this regard; and , development in the country. _ \ (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? Hike in Price of Mother Dairy Milk in Delhi THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI 970. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : T. ANJIAH) : (a) to (c). The Minist^ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE of Labuor had circulated In November! AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be J971 a set of Model Standing Orders fot- pleased to state : Casual Labour for adoption and imple- (a) whether Mother Dairy has in- mentation by the Central Government creased the price of its milk for consumers departmental undertakings. These an? only advisory in nature. These Order in the capital; seek to regtilate theconditions of employ (b) the reasons for this price rice; ment including regularisation of casual and labour subject to certain conditions. All the employing Ministries (including (c) whether any analysis of production those of Railways, Communicatio and and procurement prices has been made Works and Housing) were requested that before increasing the price of milk; if so, these standing orders may be treated as the details thereof ? Model and adopted for various depart- mental undertakings under their adminis- THE MINISTER FOR AGRICUL- trative control. TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) ; (a) and (b). Due to increase in the procurement price Allotment of J.and to Cooperative of milk supplied by various State House Building Societies by DDA Co-operative Federations, the Mother Dairy, Delhi, has increased the sale price 972. SHRI MOHAMMAD of full-cream milk in polypacks from MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN : Will thQ Rs. 4.50 to 5.10 per litre with effect from Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING the 21st February, 1985. be pleased to refer to the reply given to * (c) Yes, Sir. The cost break-up is the calling attention notice on April 2; ^ven below :— 1984 regarding allotment of land to Co-< operative House Building Societies by Rupees per litre DDA and state ; Cost of milk Rs. 4.42 (a) the number of Cooperative House Overheads including Building Societies in Delhi which have cost of packaging Rs. 0.65 been allotted land and how many of them have been actually given posstesion of Total cost Rs. 5.07 land by DDA by the end of December, 1984; i67 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 168 (b) the reasons for delay in the allot- Benefits of the Scheme for Rural Drinking Water Supply to ment of land to the remaining Cooperative SCS & STS House Building Societies; and 973. SHRl NARSrNGRAO (c) whether Government have consi- SURYAWANSHI : Will the Minister of dered the question of giving reasonable WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to interest on the deposits made by the state : Cooperative Societies on account of delay io the allotment of land and giving the (a) how far the benefits of the scheme actual possession; if so, details thereof ? for Rural Drinking Water Supply have reached the lower strata Scheduled THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Castes, Scheduled Tribes, other backward HOUSING (SHRl ABDUL classes and weaker sections of the society GHAFOOR) : (a) 127 Cooperative House in Karnataka in comparision to all India Building Societies registered for plotted level; and development and 503 cooperative group housing societies have been attotted land (b) the details of achievements made by DDA. Possession has been given to under this scheme in Karnataka i,e. all the 127 cooperative house building number of wells, tube-welis, tanks and societies and to 463 group housing hand-pumps etc. dug during the last three societies leaving 40 group housing years ? iocieties unallotted by the end of December, 1984. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (b) Possession of land could not be (a) About 9.24 lakli people belonging to given to the remaining 40 Cooperative scheduled castes and 1.03 lakh belonging Group Housing Societies for the following to scheduled tribes in covered problem reasons ; villages of Karnataka have been benefited by the rural drinking water supply pro- (i) encroachments on the land gramme as against the All India coverage meant for these societies could of approximately 166.78 lakh population not be removed; belonging to scheduled castes and 95.13 lakh population belonging to the scheduled (ii) Litigation in connection with tribes for the period from 1980 to 1984. some of these lands. The details regarding the population of (iii) requests from Societies for other backward classes and weaker change of sites. sections of society in Karnataka are not readily available with the Union However, 14 societies have recently Government. been offered sites in Rohini Project. (b) Out of 15456 identified problem Cases of 15 societies have since been villages in Karnataka as on 1.4.1980, closed for reasons of non-payment/liqui- 15443 villages have been provided with dation/refund allowed on request from the atleast one source of safe drinking water Societies. by 31st December, 1984. Details regard- ing the number of bore-wclls, dug and (c) There is no provision for payment hand-pumps fixed during the last three of interest to Cooperative Societies for years furnished by the State Government bdated allotment/handing over of land. are given in the statement attached. :ULWWHQ$QVZHUV &+$,75$ -6$.$ :ULWWHQ$QVZHUV ª UaUa P 9V G 6 !ª = ! 6 + 8 A R U U U R? 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SHRI NARSINGRAO been fixed for procurement of rice and SURYAWANSHi : Will the MINISTER other foodgrains for 1984-85 and 1985-86 OF INFORMATION AND BROAD- marketing seasons. , CASTING be pleased to state : (b) During 1984-85 Kharif and Rabi (a) whether his attention has been Marketing Seasons, a total of 86.19 lakh drawn to the news-item appeared in the tonnes of rice (including paddy in terms Deccan Herald dated 1st March, 1985 of rice), 1.61 lakh tonnes of Kharif captioned ‘Press Council to be moved in coarsegrains and 92.96 lakh tonnes of attack on Editor’; wheat have been procured, as per reports available till 20th March, 1985. (b) if so, the action taken regarding the alleged attack on the Editor of Exchange of Radio and T.V. Lokavani, a Kannade daily; Programme with other Countries (c) whether the State Government has submitted a detailed report on the incident; 976. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK : Will the Minister . of (d) if so, details thereof; and INFORMATION AND BROAD- (e) if not, the reasons therefor ? CASTING be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR (a) whether Government have a pro- INFORMATION AND BROAD- posal to exchange Radio and Television CASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) programmes with China; Yes, Sir. (b) if so, when such proposal is going (b) to (e). The relevant information is to be implemented; and being collected. (c) names of other countries with Procurement of Rice and other whom radio and television programmes Foodgrains arc proposed to be exchanged ? THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR 975. SHRIMATI JAYANTI INFORMATION AND BROAD- PATNAIK ; Will the MINISTER OF CASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be Yes, Sir. pleased to state : (a) the target set for the procurement ■ (b) It is being implemented through of rice and other foodgrains by the end the Programme of Cultural Exchanges for the year 1985. of financial year 1984-85; (b) the achievement made in the pro- (c) Exchange of Radio and Television cureraent of rice and other foodgrains in programmes with other countries is done the above year; and under Cultural Exchange Programmes, Protocols/Agreements and Bilateral (c) the target set for the procurement arrangements. A list of such countries is of rice and other foodgrains in 1985-86 ? given in the attached statement. Statement List of Countries with whom Radio and Television Programmes are being Exchanged or Proposed to be Exchanged 1. Abu Dhabi I'l 4. Argentina 2. AfganisUin 5. Australia 3. Algeria 6. Baharoin Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 174 7. Bangladesh 42. Korea (D.P.R.) . 8. Belgium 43. Korea (Republic) 9. Bhutan . 44. Kuwait 10. Bolvia 45. Loas 11. Bulgaria 46. Libiya 12. Brazil 47. Lesotho 13. Chile 48. Malavi 14. China 49. Malaysia 15. Colombia . 50. Maldives 16. Congo 51. Malta 17. Cuba 52. Mauritius 18. Cyprus 53. Mexico 1$. Czechoslovakia 1 54. Mongolia 20. Denmark 55. Morocco 21. Ethiopia 56. Mozambique 22. Egypt 57. Nepal 23. Finland 58. Netherlands 24. Fiji 59. Nigeria 25. France 60. Norway 26. Feder al Republic of Germany 61. Oman 27. German Democratic Republic 62. Pakistan 2^. Ghana 63. Panama I 29. Greece 64. Peru 30. Guinee * 65. Philippines 31. Guyane 66. Poland 32. Hong Kong 67. Portugal 33. Hungary 68. Qatar 34. Indonesia 69. Romania 35. Iran 70. Saudi Arabia 36. Iraq 71. Senagal 37. Italy 72. Spain 38. Jamaica 73. Sudan 39. Jordan 74. Singapore 40. Kampuchea - 75. Somalia 41. Kenya 76. Syria 175 Written Answers MARCH t5, 1985 Written A nswers 176 77. Sri Lanka 88. United Arab Emirates 78. Surinam 89. United Kingdom 79. Sweden 90. U.S.S.R. 80. Switzerland 91. Tenezuela 81. Swaziland 92. Vietnam 82. Tanzania 93. Yamen (P.D.R.) 83. Thailand 94. Yugoslavia 84. Tunisia 95. Zaire 85. Turkey 96. Zimbabwe 86. Trinidad 97. Zembia 87. Uganda Raising Livestock Production (c) Statement showing the names of the districts where SLPP is in operation is 977. SHRI SOMNATH RATH : Will furnished in annexure-II laid on the table the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND of the House. DPlaced in Library. See No. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to LT-644/85]. state : (d) Statement showing the States and (a) whether steps have been taken by Union Territories-wise progress made since Government to raise Livestock production inspection of SLPP is furnished in in some selected districts in the country; Annexure-Ill laid on the table of the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 644/85]. (b) if so, the names of the States and Union Territories where such districts have been identified to raise livestock produc- Setting up more Warehouses in West tion; Bengal (c) the names of districts where such 978. SHRI PRIYA RAN JAN DAS special livestock production programmes MUNSI : Will the Minister of FOOD have been launched; and AND CIVIL SUPPLIES, be pleased to state : (d) the state and Union Territories-wise progress made since the inception of such (a) the number of warehouses in India programme ? under Central Warehousing Corporation; (b) whether there is any proposal to set THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE up more warehouses in West Bengal; and AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Special (c) if so, keeping in view transport Livestock Programme (SLPP) is in opera- facilities and wagon movement, whether tion in selected districts in the country. Government propose to construct more This programme has two components warehouses in Howrah, West Bengal ? (a) cross-bred calf rearing scheme and (b) establishment of poultry, piggery and THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND sheep production units. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) As on 31-1-1985, the total (b) Annexure-I showing the names of number of warehouses of the Central the States and Union Territories where Warehousing Corporation, owned and SLPP is in operation is laid on the table hired taken together, was 403, of the House. [Placed in Library. See No, LT»644/85], (b) Yes»Sir. 177 Writ ten Answers CHAITRA 4,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 178 (c) A proposal to construct two Jware- gainful employment through integration houses in district Howrah is at present of the sectoral production plans with under the consideration of the Central employment plans and enlargement of on- Warehousing Corporation. going employment programmes under a National Employment Programme to \Translation\ cover specific target groups will be em- phasized in the Seventh Plan. Employ- Setting up of a T.V, Relay Centre in Songadh ment schemes will aim at the creation of durable assets, skill formation and genera- tion of permanent and continuing 979. SHRT C. D. GAMIT : Will the employment with progressively increasing Minister of INFORMATION AND income levels. In addition, the schemes BROADCASTING be pleased to state ; will continue to promote self employment (a) whether a demand has been made in economically viable activities backed to set up a T,V. relay centre in Sonpadh up by the requisite training, credit, tribal area in Surat District in Gujarui; marketing and organisational linkages. Projections for employment in different (b) if so, the reaction of Government sectors by 1985-90 are not available. thereto; and (c) the time by which T.V. relay Incentives to Farmers to Boost ccntre is likely to be set up in Songadh Production and the details of the action taken by Government in this regard ? 981. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND state the incentives proposed to be pro- BROADCASTING (SHRl V. N. vided to the farmers to encourage increase GADGIL) : (a) Requests for extending in production of various crops and to TV coverage in Surat district have been ensure fair and remunerative prices to received from time to time. them for the produce ? (b) and (c). A low power TV transmitter THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE was commissioned at Surat on 29-7-84. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI There is no approved scheme, at present, BUTA SINGH) : Apart from fixing the to set up a TV Relay Centre at Songadh. support prices of major agricultural com- modities at remunerative levels. Govern- [English] ment provide subsidy on a wide range of agricultural inputs in order to encourage Formation of Employment Policy for the Seventh Five Year Plan production. These subsidies are given for specific inputs as well as agricultural 980. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN ; Will operations. In addition, demonstrations the Minister of LABOUR be pleased and training are also subsidised. For to state : example, Government arrange supply of required quantity of chemical fertilizers to (a) whether Government have framed farmers at subsidised prices through sale its employment policy for the Seventh Five points established throughout the country. Years Plan period 1985-90; and Government also provide subsidy for (b) the details of the policy, projections encouraging usage of inputs like seeds, for employment in different sectors by pestisides etc. under different programmes. 1985-90 and how the policy is proposed Moreover, the electricity tariff, irrigation charges as well as interest rates have been to be implemented ? kept lower for agricultural purposes. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Efforts are being made to improve the MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. delivery systems of agricultural inputs to ANJIAH) (a) and (b). The Approach encourage farmers to take to improved Paper to the Seventh Five Years Plan technology. In various subsidy pro- (1985-90) states that the generation of grammes, small and marginal farmers are 179 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 180 ■-T'! specially catered to. A comprehensive the State share, during 1980-84 was Rs. scheme of crop insurance is being intro- 3001.12 lakhs. duced for paddy, wheat, oilseeds and pulses for which insurance charges will be (d) The main reason for the shortfall low and the charges for small and in the achievement of target and utilisation marginal farmers would be subsidised. It of assistance in West Bengal was the late is also proposed to strengthen the price start of the Programme resulting in slow support operations for the benefit of the progress in the implementation during the farmers. initial years of the Sixth Plan. The pace of implementation has picked up from Target for Raising the Income of 1983-84 onwards. Families of Target Group Funds for Developnient of Rural Roads in 982. SHRI BHOLA NATH SHN : Will Hilly Areas of Maharashtra the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to 983. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : Will state : the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (a) the target for raising the income of RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to the families belonging to the target group state ; consisting of small and marginal farmers, (a) whether his Ministry has any pro- share croppers, agricultural labourers, posal to sanction funds for the develop- landless people and rural artisans in West ment of rural roads in hilly and Bengal under the Integrated Rural inaccessible areas of Maharashtra; Development Programmes during the Sixth Five Year Plan period 1980-85; (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) to what extent the above target has (c) the areas of Maharashtra to be so far been achieved in West Bengal; included in that proposal ? (c) the amount of assistance sanctioned THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE by the Centre and the amount of this AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI assistance which was actually utilised for BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The develop- the above purpose by the Government of ment of rural roads is mainly taken up as West Bengal upto 1983-84; and part of minimum needs programme in the state sector, funds for which are provided (d) the reasons for shortfall, If any, in in the state plans. As per information achieving the target or utilisation of the given by the State Government in the assistance sanctioned by the Centre ? Draft Seventh Five Year Plan and Annual THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Plan 1985-86 document for Maharashtra AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI the State Government undertook rural BUTA SINGHJ ; (a) and (b). A target of roads development in backward areas of assisting 10.05 lakh families was set for Vidharbha and hilly areas of Western West Bengal under the Intergrated Rural Maharashtra during the Sixth Plan. An Development Programme during the Sixth amount of Rs. 17.29 crores is likely to be Five Year Plan period (1980-85). Against spent on Vidharbha roads and Rs. 7,39 this target, 5.52 lakh families had been crores on special roads prc£ramme in hilly assisted under the programme during the areas during Sixth Plan period. In hilly Sixth Five Year Plan period upto Decem- areas 585 foot bridges are expected to be ber, 1984. completed with an expenditure of Rs. 7.37 crores. (c) Against the Central allocation of Rs. 4522.50 lakhs, an amount of Rs. The States can also take up rural road 1319.92 lakhs was released by the Central schemes under the Rural Landles Employ- Government for the IRD Programme to ment Guarantee Programme which is a West Bengal for 1980-84. In addition, an central sector programme launched in amount of Rs. 661 lakhs released by August, 1983. Rural roads projects costing Centre in 1978*80 was also available with Rs. 29 crores for Maharashtra have been t|ie State, The tot?iI utilig^tipq, ipduding approved under this programme. A 181 Written Answers CHATTRA 4, 1907 {ISAKA) Written Answers ii82 Proposal to Remove Control on Prices is no Scheme for Central assistance to of Essential Commodities States for sea search and rescue operations. 984. SHRl HUSSAIN DALWAl : Will Fish Landing Centres in Keraia the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to stale : 987. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (a) whether there is any proposal under AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be Government’s consideration to remove pleased to state; control on the prices of essential commo- dities : (a) the details of proposals received by Central Government from Kerala Govern- (b) if so, the details thereof; and ment for setting up fish landing centres in Kerala; (c) if not, in order to control the prices of essential commodities, whether there is (b) whether the request of the Kerala any effective alternative ? • Goverrunent will be considered only after sanctioning more such centres in other MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL States; and SUPPLIES (RAO BIR£NDRA SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, the reasons for this discrimina- (b) Does not arise. tion considering the fact that Kerala has a large fishery potential which needs to be (c) The main thrust of Government harnessed ? policy has been to increase the production of essential commodities particularly the THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE ones which are in short supply. The Public AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Distribution Sysiem is being expanded and BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). Twenty propo- improved. The supplies of some essential sals for setting up of fish landing centres commodities are supplemented by imports. were received from the Government of The export of essential commodities is Kerala out of which 17 have been regulated. State Governments are enforc- sanctioned. ing the provisions of the Essential Com- modities Act and similar legislations to curb the activities of hoarders and black- Setting up of a Television Centre at Nagercoil in Kanya Kuniari District marketeers ond other anti-social elements. 988. SHRI N. DENNIS : Will the Central Assistance for Sea Search and Minister of INFORMATION AND Rcscue Operations BROADCASTING be pleased to state ; 985. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR : (a) whether there is a proposal under Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE the consideration of Government to open- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be a Television Centre at Nagercoil in Kanya pleased to state ; Kumari District; and (a) Government’s policy regarding the Central assistance to States for sea search (b) if so, the details thereof ? and rescue operations in order to protect I ' the life and property of fishermen ai sea; THE MINISTER OF STATE ON THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (b) funds allocated for the Sixth Plan BROADCASTING : (SHRI V. N. * period and their utilisation; and GADGIL): (a) and (b). The transmitters at (c) the stage of the scheme submitted Trivandrum and Kodaikanal, when commis- sioned on full power of 10 KW by May^ by Kerala Government in this regard ? 1985, are expected to provide TV service THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE to Kanya Kumari district. There is no pro- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI posal to set up a transmitter in Kanya BXJTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). Presently there Kumari district. i83 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 184 Conversion of AIR into an Autonomous improving the productivity of land through Organistation appropriate land treatment measures cou- pled with suitable agronomical practices. 989. SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA The programmes are reviewed from time RAO : Will the Minister of INFORMA- to time with the State Governments and TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased other agencies. to state : Socio-Economic Condition of Rural (a) whether a proposal to take away the and Unorganised Labour All India Radio from the control of his Ministry and convert it into an autono- mous organisation like BBC is under consi- 991. SHRI JAGANNATH PATNAIK : Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased deration of Government; and to state : (b) if so, the steps proposed to be (a) whether Government have under- taken in this regard ? taken any fresh study to assess the present socio-economic condition of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE rural labour, particularly unorganised MINIS FRY OF INFORMATION AND labour; and BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GADGIL) : (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof ? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. Dry-Land Farming Plan to Boost ANJIAH) ; (a) and (b). Four Tripartite Agricultural Production Study Groups have been constituted, with representatives of Central/State Govern- 990. SHRI K. PRADHANl : Will the ments, Workers and Employers, to examine Minister of AGRICULTURE AND the working and living conditions and to RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to suggest administrative as well as legisla- state : tive measures considered necessary, in respect of the workers employed in the (a) whether Government have formula- following sectors of unorganised labour ; ted any long term intensified dryland farming plan to boost agricultural produc- (i) Handloom and Powerloom; tion throughout the country with a view to (ii) Leather; have strong national food security system (iii) Fishermen; and and a balanced economic growth in rural parts of the country; (iv) Building and Construction. (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof; Production and Demand of Sugar and 992. SHRI K. PRADHANl : Will (c) the role assigned or proposed to be the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL assigned to State Governments and their SUPPLIES be pleased to state : various agencies ? (a) whether his Ministry has worked THE MINISTFR OF AGRICULTURE out the possible shortfall during the current AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI season on the basis of a revised estimate BUTA SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Govern- of sugar, production and demand; ment has accorded high priority to dryland development programmes which have been (b) if so, Government’s assessment of iflcluded as item No. 1 of the new 20- the situation; point programme. These programmes inter alia aim at increasing the production of (c) whether Government propose to main dtyland crops, namely, pulses, import sugar this year alst) to tide over oilseeds and coarsegrains, in order to the likely shortage of the commodity in stabilise and increase foodgrains produc- the coming months; tion and raise productivity in rainfcd (d) if so, the countries of import and areas. Broadly, these programmes aim at whether it wiU be on Government account 185 Written Answers CHAITRA < 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers i86 and how will it be allocated to the States Withdrawal of Free Credit Facility like Orissa which are entirely dependent for Replacement of Imported Edible Oil dues on Central supplies; and 993. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: (e) the quantum of sugar imported Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL during the last year to meet the shortfall SUPPLIES be pleased to state : in output and the price variation between the GIF and indigeneous production per (a) whether his Ministry has decided tonne ? to withdraw “free credit” facility extended to the State Governments for repayment THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND of the imported edible oil dues from the CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA end of this month; SINGH): (a) to (c). Sugar production upto 7th March in the current J984-85 season (b) if so, the reasons therefor; has reached 45.17 lakh tonnes as against 43.13 lakh tonnes upto the same data in (c) whether its impact on West Bengal 1983-84 season. Since the crushing opera- will be particularly severe since the State tions are still in progress, it is premature may lose its overall monthly allocations and rather difficult to estimate with any of imported oils for the Public Distribu- degree of precision the extent of shortfall tion System; and etc. if any, at this stage. (d) whether the quota of West Bengal Besides about five lakh tonnes of sugar is likely to be reduced by 2,000 tonnes; contracted for imoort in 1984, some if so, the reasons therefor ? imports of sugar have been contracted by the State Trading Corporation THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND for supply during this year, with CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA a view to keep the stocks ai adequate SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. level. However, it is not possi- ble to indicate for the present the exact (b) losson account of "edible oil opera- quantity of sugar that may have to be tions incurred by the Central Government imported. was the major reason. The continuance of credit facilities without payment of (d) The contracts for the purchases interest was adding to the deficit. have been made through International Traders. Therefore* the countrywise parti- (c) No, Sir. This will not affect the culars are not known. The imports of monthly allocation of imported edible oils sugar arc being canaliscd through the of any State including West Bengal. The State Trading Corporation and are on monthly allocation of imported edible oils Government account. So far as supply of to States/Union Territories for issue levy sugar to Orissa is concerned, it is through Public Distribution System are arranged through Food Corporation of made on consideration of various factors India and, therefore, the Corporation is such as realistic assessment of demand, responsible for supplying the allocated consumption pattern, availability of stocks quantity both from indigenous and with State Trading Corporation and pace imported ' sugar to the State of lifting of oils and other relevant Government. factors. (e) The quantum of sugar imports (d) During flush season, because of against the contracts entered into easy availability of indigenous edible oils, in 1984 is 4.94 lakh tonnes. The CIF cost the allocation of imported edible oil to of this imported sugar is about Rs. 2288 States for Public Distribution System is per tonne. Levy sugar is being exported reduced. This is not peculiar to West and its all India average ex-factory price Bengal alone. The allocation for the month is Rs. 3110.70 per tonne based on the of March, 1985 to West Bengal was existing notified prices. reduced by 2,000 MTs. 187 IVrittcn Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers IsS Oilscc’ds Production ject for Restructuring of Edible Oils and Oilseeds Production and 994. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL | Marketing through National Dairy Wiil the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Development Board. SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (v) National Oilseeds and Vegetable (a) whether Government have formu- Oils Development Board has been lated any long-term plan for meeting the set up to bring about integrated wide gap between demand and supply of development of oilseeds produc- vegetable oils; tion, processing and marketing and also for the development of (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof; Vegetable Oils and Industry. and (c) It is proposed to achievc a produc- (c) the extent of growth rate in oilseeds tion target of 170 lakh tonnes by the end production sought to be achieved by the oF 7th Five Year Plan from a level of end of the Seventh Five Year Plan ? 130 lakh tonnes during the 6th Five Year THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Plan. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Fishing Project in Kerala under the AEGIS ofNCDC (b) The following measures have been taken to increase tlie production of 995. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN : oilseeds ; Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (1) During 1984-85, a Centrally AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be Sponsored National Oilseeds pleased to state : Development Projcct has been (a) whether a big fishing project is sanctioned reorienting and integra- being started in Kerala with the help of ting the Oilseeds Development National Co-operative Development Schemes in operation upto Corporation; and 1983-84. , (b) if so, the details thereof ? (ii) The crop and location specific approach through Special Projects THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- has been extended to four major TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT crops, namely, groundnut, rape- (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. secds mustard, soyabean and sun- flower in selected States. (b) As per information received from the State Government of Kerala, the (iii) The intensive approach has been salient features of the project are as extended to other oilseeds crops follows : namely, sesamum, sunflower and niger besides groundnut, (i) to be implemented by the Kerala rapeseed-mustard, soyabean and State Cooperative Federation for sunflower in 14 States. The pro- fisheries development; gramme inter-alia, aims at deve- (ii) will be implemented in a phased lopment of non-traditional oilseeds manner over a period of six increase in areas under irrigated years; crops particularly groundnut in rabl/summer season, adoption of (iii) project envisages provision of improved package of practi ccs, infrastructctural facilities for supply of basic inputs and free better landing, handling and distribution of seed and fertiliser marketing of fish in all fishing minikits on a large scale. villages in the State; board engines and gear to marine various facilities provided there; fishermen; (c) whether it has been set up as a (v) development of 3000 hactare part of the scheme for setting up a dry brackish water area into fish and port at Delhi; prawn farms; (d) how far this would replace the dry- (vi) establishment of six new prawn port scheme; and hatcheries of 75 million seed pro- (e) how it would be linked with the duction capacity; ports for export/import purposes ? (vii) efficient marketing system through THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND the auction of entire fish landings CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA of traditional sector by village SINGH): (a) to (e). A Container Freight societies; and Station (CFS) has been set up by the Central Warehousing Corporation at (viii) welfare programmes for improving Patparganj for Less-than-Container-Load the standard of living of the (LCL) cargo to augment the facilities and fishermen. capacity of the Inland Container Depot functioning at Pragati Maidan.lt would offer Centrally Sponsored Scheme for facilities for (i) handling and clearance of Welfare of Kerala Fishermen export and import cargo; (ii) storage of uncleared cargo; (iii) documentation, 996. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will the customs examination and payment of duty Minister of AGRICULTURE AND drawback; (iv) transportation of con- RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to tainers to and from Inland Container state : Depot, Pragati Maidan which is linked to (a) whether there is any Centrally the port of Bombay for export-import sponsored scheme for the welfare of the purposes; and (v) negotiation of docu- traditional fishermen of Kerala; and ments and other normal banking facilities. (b) if so, the details thereof? The CFS, Patparganj has not been set THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE up as a part of the dry port scheme. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI BUTA SINGH) ; (a) Yes, Sir. Simplification of Withdrawal Proce- dure from Provident Fund (b) The Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Group Accident Insurance for active fishermen is being implemented in the 998. SHRI ANAND SINGH : Will the form of ex-gratia payment by the Kerala Minister of LABOUR be pleased to Government. Another Centrally Sponso- state : red Scheme of Techno-Socio-EconOmic (a) whether Government have under Survey of Fishermen Community is also their consideration, the question of simpli- being implemented in the Kerala State. fication of procedure for withdrawals and loans from the Provident Fund of Setting up of a Container Freight employees especially when they have to Station for Dry Port in Delhi stay away from job without wages during strikes and lock-outs; 997. SHRT ANAND SINGH : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so, specific difficulties encoun- SUPPLIES be pleased to state : tered by the employees in this regard; and (a) whether a Container Freight Station providing for dry port facilities has been (c) the decisions taken in the matter ? set up at Patparganj (Delhi) by the Central Warehousing Corporation; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI (b) if so, the nature and extent of T. ANJIAH) : (a) Simplification of prq* 191 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 192 cedure for withdrawals by the employees and the employers, it will require detailod from Provident Fund is a continuing examination in consultation with the exercise. The rules already provide for interests concerned. withdrawals by the employees in the event Implementation of NREP in Rajasthan an establishment remains !ocked-up for more than 15 days. There is no provision 1000. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER for allowing similar facility when the JA IN : Will the Minister of AGRICUL- workers stay out of the job due to strike TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT and consequently do not get wages. There be pleased to state the yearwise is at present no proposal to further funds received so far by Rajasthan liberalise the provisions relating to with- from the Centre, the funds mobilised drawals. by the State itself, th^ details of the assets created in the State and the (b) If any specific difficulty experienced number of days on which labourers got by employees due to procedural matters their wages under the National Rural is brought to the notice of Government, Employment Programme ? the same is looked into. (c) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRJ Insurance Cover to Workers during BUTA SINGH) : Statement-I, indicating Lock-Outs and Closures the central assistance released to Rajasthan 999. SHRT ANAN DSINGH : Will the under National Rural Employment Progra- Minister of LABOUR be pleased to mme during the years 1980-81 to 1984-85 state : and the contribution made by the State Government during these years under the (a) whether any scheme for providing programme together with employment gene- insurance cover to workers during lock- rated each year is enclosed. Statemeni-ll, outs and closures is under Government’s indicating the assets created in the state consideration; under the programme during these years is (b) if so, the details thereof; and also enclosed. (c) decision taken in this regard ? As works under NREP are taken up all over the State, the days on which payment THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE is made in difTerent works is not monitor- MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRl T. ed. Under NREP guidelines issued by the ANJIAH) : (a) to (c). Suggestions have Central Government, prompt payment of been made from time to time for intro- wages is enjoined on the implementing ducting a scheme providing insurance cover agency and it is emphasised that under no to workers during lockouts and closures. circumstances should a delay in payment As this is a major policy matter and may of wages of more than a week be allowed require involvement of both the workers to take place. Statement-1 StoAement showing the cash funds released under National Rural Employment Programme during the years 1980-81 to 19H4-85 in Rajasthan Year Cash funds released Employment Generated (Rs. in lakhs) (lakh Mandays) Central State Total 1980-81 2602.50 — 2602.50 259.52 1981-82 468.00 468.00 936.00 95.48 1982-83 457.55 436.00 893.55 48.16 1983-84 488.65 510.00 998.65 67.38 1984-85 775.00* 775.00 1550.00 71.49 (upto Feb. 1985) ♦includes additional central assistance of Rs, 225,00 lakhs. :ULWWHQ$QVZHUV &+$,75$ L6$.$ :ULWWHQ$QVZHUV ©! R 7` &2 6 Ua , , R? 22 I F6A , , P 92 &1 A22 2 ª S RR &2 RR T 00 P2 UU , ªUO L- A R? , FQ 92 6 P A &6 ª RRRV FQ 92 ! P U!ª 92 ©1 R 2V 6 2 R?22 I1 9 I1 , WQ 92 2V 92 22 *2 22 RR R FQ UM A &1 , 2V 6 RR , 92 26 R , , , , Zª 92 RR G 26 A 26 &6 UW 2 Ŷ WZ D 2 R R X ' '& ] ; N 9 R! FV R &2 Ŷ9 ! % 2 R2 % RU ³W 2 V F R V R , 0 Ŷ9 ! D FG " R WR R 9 HV & UU R (OL 4 = V P 92 22 2V Written Answers M AROl 25, 1985 Written Answers 19<> Proposal of West Bengal Government (a) and (b). On these points the report of j to set up a Vanaspati Plant Technology and Demand Projection Panel of Development Council for printing ! 1001. SHRI SANAJ KUMAR Industry is as follows : R a n d a l : wni the Minister of FOOD [AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to ‘Majority of work turned out in Govt, plate : of India Presses is less than average in point of design, quality and legibility. One \ (a) whether the West Bengal Govern- often finds forms issued for public use ,mwt has approached the Mational Coope- badly printed and illegible. Vigorous fratlve Development Corporation and the attempts to improve quality and intro- Central Government with their plan to set ducing modern methods in technology for up a vanaspati plant with a capacity of improving quality and cost reduction are 100 tonnes per day and also the promo- required.’ It also indicates that one of the ,ti6n of an oilseeds growers co-operative; and reasons for such quality of printing is on account of the quality of paper and ink (b) if so, the assistance v^hich the available in the country. The report also National Cooperative Development indicates that even in private presses (with Corporation and the Central Government the exception of specialised categories of propose to render to the State Government? books produced by a few leading printers), THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND the quality of book work in general ranges CIVIL SUPPLIJES (RAO BIRENDRA from fair to average. SINGH) (a) and (b). The West Bengal Government had recommended the appli- Occasionally, Govt, of India Presses cation of the West Bengal Stale Federa- have produced good quality work and tion of Wholesale Consumers Cooperative received national awards for excellence in 'Societies Limited for issue of licence to set printing. up a 50-tonne per day vanaspati plant. TTie application was not within the policy Modern methods and technological improvements have been adopted in some parameters and, was therefore, rejected. of the presses and these are in the process of being implemented in the remaining, Improvement of Printinf* Work in Presses presses also in order to improve the 1002. SHRI SANAT KUMAR quality of printing. MANDAL : Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state : (c) The Govt, of India has already taken steps to improve printing and to (a) whether Government printing work modernise the printing technology and in India is less than average in point of machinery in the Govt, of India Presses. design, quality and legibility according to This also applies to the Govt, of India the technology and demand projection Presses in Calcutta, In the Govt, of India panel of Government’s Development Press, Temple Street, Calcutta, in particular Council for Printing Industry; four old letter press machines have been rcplased by two fast running web off set (b) whether according to the above printing machines. A training centre for panel report, forms issued for public use the staff has also been set up at the Govt, were often found to be badly printed and of India Photolitho Press, Faridabad. Is is illegible and called for introduction of hoped that these measures would result in modem methods and technology to im- improving the quality of printing. prove printing quality and reduce costs; and Diploma Holders in Civil Engineering! (c) if so, whether Government propose Registered with Fmployment Exchanges to improve printing and modernise the printing technology and machinery in the 1003. SHRI M. L. JHIKRAM : Will Central Government Presses, particularly the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to to its Presses in Calcutta ? state : ■i THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (a) how many First Division Diploma HOUSING (SHRJ ABPUI, GHAFOOR) ; Holders in Civil Engineering are at present 1^1 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Ans wers 19^ ‘ on the live register of Delhi Employment Villages Connected with all Weather/' Fair Weather Roads Exchanges seeking employment; and (b) the total number of such diploma 1004. SHRI SOBHANADREESWAiiA holders registered during each of the last RAO : Will the Ministef^'df five years ? AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE- LOPMENT be pleased to state ; , . THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) the villages yet to be connected with MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRl T. all weather roads. State-wise; , ANJIAH) : (a) 1764 First Division Dip- loma Holders in Civil Engineering were on (b) the villages yet to be connected with the live register of Delhi Employment fair weather roads, State-wise; and _ Exchanges as on 31-12-1984, (c) the date by which Government (b) Available information relating to intend to connect all the villages with all number of registrations made in respect of weather fair weather roads ? all diploma holders in Civil Engineering THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE each years during the period 1980-1984 is AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHKl furnished below BUTA SINGH) : (a) A Statement is attached. Year Number (b) Information of this nature is nOt maintained in the Department. 1980 629 (c) According to the Sixth Plan docu- 1981 627 ment,, all the villages with a population of 1982 716 over 1500 and 50 per cent of the villages 1983 882 with population between 1000-1500 are to be connected by all weather roads under 1984 995 the minimum needs programme by 1990. Statement Statement showing number of villages yet to be connected hy all weather roads as on 31.3.1984 (Provisiondl). SI. State/U.T. No, of villages yet to be connected No. by all weather roads as on 31.3.1984 (Provisional) 1. Andhra Pradesh 16464 2. Assam 9762 3. Bihar 46155 4. Gujarat 7148 5. Haryana 128 6. Himachal Pradesh 9973 7. Jammu and Kashmir 2662 8. Karnataka 18832 9. Kerala — 10. Madhya Pradesh 55335 11. Maharashtra 24289 12. Manipur 5121 13. Meghalaya 2267 ■ I " Written Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written Answers 260 1 2 3 14. Nagaland 332 IS. Orissa 53154 16. Punjab 162 17. Rajasthan 27348 18. Sikkim 175 19. Tamil Nadu 10390 20. Tripura 2698 21. Uttar Pradesh 102044 22. West Bengal 20631 23. Andaman and Nicobar Islands 145 24. Arunachal Pradesh 3463 25. Chandigarh — 26. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 20 27. Delhi — 28. Goa, Daman and Diu 33 29. Lakshdweep @ 30. Mizoram 654 31. Pondicherry 22 TOTAL ; 415807 @ Separate Islands^No villages. Source : Planning Commission. Projected Shortfall in supply of THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL Vegetable Oils during Seventh Plan Period SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : ( a) and (b). A copy of the integra- ted plan for meeting vegetable oils demand 1005. SHRl K. PRADHANI : Will and supply gap in the seventh plan period, the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL received from the Central Organisation for SUPPLIES be pleased to state : Oil Industry and Trade indicates the follw- (a) whether the Central Organisation owing position about requirement, availa- for Oil Industry and Trade (COOIT) has bility and shortfall in v^etable oils in the projected a big shortfall of 18.5 lakh country :- tonnes in supply of vegetable oils in the 7th Plan and suggested a 10 per cent com- Vegetable Oils Quantity of lakh pound growth rate in oilseeds production to bring this gap ; Total requirement 56.70 Availability (b) whether the COOIT has submitted 44.00 an integrated plan to the Government Shortfall 12.70 indicating that while the total abailability of vegetable oil is 42 lakh tonnes, the The Central Organisation has suggested a estimated demand in the 7th Plan is likely 10% compound growth to bridge the to be around 60.5 lakhs tonnes; and shortfall. (c) if so, the action Covemment pro- (c) Concerted efforts are being made by pose to take to raise oil production to the Government of India to attain self- atleast 75 to 80 lakh tonnes by 1989-90 ? sufiBciency in vegetable oils in the country. iol Written Answers CHA1TRA4, m iiS A K A ) Written Answers 202 Towards this end, the foliowing measures one—for distribution through the public have been taken distribution system ? 1. Intensive programme for develop- THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND ment of oilseeds in oilseed produc- CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA ing States. The scheme aims at SINGH) ; (a) and (b). The allocation of demonstration on farmers fields, imported edible oils to States/Union Terri- strengthening of sheed production tories is decided on a month to month ' and distribution arrangement, basis on consideration of various factors expansion of plant protection mea- such as realistic assessment of the demand sures, extension of irrigated areas and preference of oil indicated by the etc. State Goverment, consumption pattern, availability of indigenous edible oils within 2. Launching of special projects on the State/region, availability of stocks with production of groundnut in Saura- State Trading Corporation of India and the shtra region of Gujarat and Soya- pace of lifting of edidle oils allocated bean in Madhya Pradesh. earlier. The allocation to Orissaj during 3. Better incentive to producers 1985-86 will also be determined on these through fixation of minimum considerations. No indigenous edible oil is support prices. supplied to States/Union Territories under PublicDistributions System since the Central 4. Intensification research efforts for Government have not imposed any control increasing the productivity of oil- on the distribution of indigenous edible seeds. oils in the country. During the Oil Year 1984-85 (November, 1984 to October, 1985) 5. Increase in area under non-traditi- onal oilseed crop like soyabean and till March, 1985, the Government of Orissa sunflower and exploition of oil- has beenUfallocated 11,000 MTs. of imported edible oils. seeds of tree and foreset origin, ricc bran etc. Financial Assistance to the Calcutta and Bomby Municipal Corporations 6. Setting up of necessary processing and infrastuctural facilities to keep 1007. SHRI R. P. DAS : Will the pace with the production progra- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING mme of oilseeds. As a result of be pleased to stale : the measures indecated above, the production of cultivated oilseeds (a) whether Union Government have during 1983-84 has been 128.1 lakh extended any financial help to the budgets tonnes. The production target of of the Calcutta Corporation and Bombay cultivated oilseeds by the end of the Municipal Corporations; Seventh Five Year Plan, viz. 1989- (b) if so, the details of the said 90, has been fixed at 170 lakh assistance; tonnes. (c) if not, whether Government Sappy of Vegetable Oils to propose to extend such finacial help in the Eastern States near future; and 1006. SHRI K. PRADHANl : Will (d) if not, the reasons therefor ? the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : (a) whether there exists any yardstick (a) Ministery of Works and Housing for the supply of vegetable oil, particularly does not extend any financial help to the to the Eastern States which are deficient budget of any Municipal Corporation. in their production; and (b) Does not arise. (b) if so, the quantum of vegetable oil (c) Does not arise. likely to be supplied to Orissa during 1985-86—both indigenous and imported (d) Does not arise. * 203 (Vritten Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 204' Import of More Sugar in Addition to fertilizer is one of the reason for the sameji Already Planned and 1008. SHRl R. ANNANAMBI : (e) if so, the steps Government Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL propose to take to deal with the situation ? SUPPLIES be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (a) whether in view of poor carry- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI over stock and prospectes of lower BUTA SINGH) : (a) The consumption production during 1984-85 sugar season, of fertilizer in the country has increased the Union Government would resort to from about 64 lakh tonnes in 1982-83 to more imports of sugar in addition to the an estimated lavel of about 84 lakh tonnes import of 5 lakh tonnes already planned, of nutrients in 1984-85, and thus, regis- in order to keep the sugar prices under tering a growth rate of about 31 per cent. check as well as to maintain a minimum level of buffer stock; and (b) and (c). There has been growth in fertilizer consumption in all the States (b) if so, the reaction of Government except Jammu and Kashmir and Manipur. in this regard ? Since the consumption of fertilizers depends on a combination of several THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND factors like weather conditions, availability CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA and price etc., it would be difficult to SINGH) : (a) and (b). The carryover of clearly delineate anyone as being sugar with the factories as on 1-10-1984 exclusively responsible for the shortfalls. was about 23.75 lakh tonnes. As regards However, the lower rates of consumption the sugar production in the current 1984- in these two States were mainly attibutable 85 season, the production upto 7th to weather aberrations. March has reached 45.17 lakh tonnes as against 43.13 lakh tonnes upto the same (d) and (e). Price of fertilizers would date in 1983-84 season. Since the crushing have certain bearing on the consumption operations are still in progress with a large of fertilizers. With a view to induce the number of factories still operating, it farmers to use fertilizers, the Government is rather difficult to estimate with any of India reduced the price of all varieti es degree of precision the extent of short- of fertilizers in June, 1983 by 7^% and falls etc. if any, at this stage. also allowed a further rebate of 10 per cent on stocks lying for over two years Besides five lakh tonnes of sugar with Food Corporation of India. contracted for import in sugar year 1983- 84, some imports of sugar have been Reopening of Industries Under Lockout contracted by the State Trading Corpora- tion for supply during the current year. 1010. SHRI AJOY BISWAS ; SHRI A.T1T KUMAR SAHA : Consumption of Fertilizers Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : 1009. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : Will the Minister of AGRI- (a) the number of small, medium and CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP- large scale industries in the country MENT be pleased to state : (State-wise) which are under lockout and closure till today; (a) whether the consumption of fertilizer in the country has recorded any (b) the steps Government propose to increase during the last three years; take to reopen those mills; (b) if so, the States which have (c) the State-wise number of such shown improvement; units re-opened during January and February, 1985; and (c) if not, the reasons for lack of growth in the consumption rate; (d) the number of workers out of employment buc to closure and lockout of ■(d) whether the hike in price of such units ? 205 Written Ans^fers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 206 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE appropriate authorities to resolve disputes MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRl T. relating to closures and get the closed ANJIAH) : (a) and (d). Information units restarted. Similar action is taken relating to lockouts and closures is by the Central Government, being the maintained by Calendar Year. A State- appropriate Government, in respect of ment showing State-wise number of lock- establishments falling in the Central outs and closures and workers affected sphere. during 1984 is attached. (c) Information relating to the (b) Under the Industrial Disputes Act, reopening of closed units is not 1947 the State Government are the maintained. Statement Statement Showing the No. of lockouts and closures and workers affected thereby during 1984 (/*), State-wise. States/Union No', of No. of No. of No. of Territories lockouts workers closures* workers affected affected 1 2 3 ■ 4 5 Andhra Pradesh 49 34,346 3 168 ‘Assam 1 1,489 . . . • • • Bihar 16 12,938 7 11,461 Gujarat 18 6,621 35 31,230 Haryana 6 6,668 9 3,745 Himachal Pradesh ■ • « 1 74 Jammu and Kashmir • ■ • ■ ■ • .... • • « • Karnataka 1 150 1 52 Kerala 7 1,252 19 14,584 Madhya Pradesh • 2 2,050 1 23 Maharashtra 39 18,163 37 1,344 Manipur Meghalaya .... ------. < . . • « • • Nagaland ...... • > • • Orissa 10 5,564 11 6,060 Punjab 4 145 Rajasthan 28 4,203 16 1,170 — Sikkim • • • a . • • Tamil Nadu 23 11,848 24 1,258 Tripura • a I • — 1 65 Uttar Pradesh 12 2,211 17 482 West Bengal 123 79,286 .... • * • • Andaman and Nicobar — — — Arunachal Pradesh • • ■ • .. * * Chandigarh • • • ■ — .... ■ .«■ Dadra and Nagar Haveli — — ------— 207 Written Answers MARCH 25, 1985 Written Answers 208 1 2 3 4 5 Delhi * 2 4,242 1 9 Goa, Daman and Diu 5 570 — Lakshdweep ■ ■ • • ■ • • ■ • • •« • • • • Mizoram .... • a • ■ ■ • • • « • • • Pondicherry • • • • TOTAL 342 191,601 187 71,870 (P) = Provisional. ( _ ) = Nill. (..) — Not Available. (*) = Closures are due to reasons other than Industrial Disputes and include both permanent and temporary closures but exclude ‘off season’ closures. Symposium on Environment and National Seminar on Metropolitan Industrial Safety Transport 1011. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH : 1012. SHRIMATl GEETA MUKHERJEE : Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased SHRIMATI MADHURI SINGH : to state : Will the Minister of WORKS AND (a) whether Government are aware of HOUSING be pleased to state : the proceedings of a Symposium on “Environment and Industrial Safety” held (a) whethqr his attention has been recently at New Delhi from 2nd to 5th drawn to the speach made by the Minister February, 1985; of State in the Ministry of Planning (Shri K. R. Narayanan), while inaugurating the (b) if so, whether Government are National Seminar on Metropolitan Trans- studying the various important suggestions portation in Delhi on 1 March, 1985, made at the symposium to tackle the wherein he stressed the need for priority problems of industrial safety and environ- to the public transport system particularly mental preservation in the light of recent an efficient bus sei-vice to meet the needs gas tragedy at Bhopal and other industrial of the vast majority of the commuters; accidents that took place in the country and . recently; and (c) if so, the remedial steps being (b) if so, the conclusions reached at taken as suggested by the said symposium the Seminar and Government’s reaction to to avert such industrial accidents and the suggestions made at the Seminar ? pollution of environment ? THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) : MITSIISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRJ T. (a) Yes, Madam. ANJIAh ) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The proceedings of the Seminar (b) and (c). The Seminar discussed and the summary of recommendations various aspects concerning environmental made therein, have, however, not been safety, nuclear safety and radiological received from the organisers. protection and contribution of trade union movement in tackling the industrial CLUSA Oilseeds Project environment and accident problems. The recommendations of the Symposium are 1013. SHRI SRIHARI RAO : Will being finalised. the Minister of AGRICULTURE ANp 209 Written Answers CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Written Answers 210 RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to 1983. The broad recommendations made state : by the team were furnished to the Lok Sabha in reply to Unstarred Question No. (a) whether Government are aware of 2369 on 12-3-1984. These are as under : the dismal picture in oilseeds production leading to imports touching Rs. 1200 1. Procedure for licensing of proces- crorcs in 1983-84 which are expected to sing facilities may be streamlined. touch Rs. 3000-4000 crorcs by J990 as per World Bank estimates; 2. Centralised market analysis and forecasting functions may be (b) whether Rs. 116 crore CLUSA developed. oilseeds project started in 1979 has been successful in achieving its targets and if so, 3. The project strategy may be to details thereof; stabilise year to year yield at a moderate level in rainfed areas (c) whether any independent evalint\-)n raher than trying to substantially has been made of this project and the increase annual yields. reports provided to the Parliament and if not reasons thereof; and 4. Society Secretaries should be given adequate training to perform their (d) whether the ICAR and other functions. insti tutions have made claims of new varieties which are not true and if so, 5. Where it is necessary to staff corrective steps taken ? agricultural positions with non- agricultural candidates, intensive THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE and formal training in agricultural AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRl subjects should be arranged for BUTA SINGH) : (a) The oilseeds pro- them. duction has made a significant increase in Sixth Plan. The production has increased 6. There must be a firm commitment from a level of 87.4 lakh tonnes in 1979-80 on the part of the State Govern- to 128.1 lakh tonnes in 1983-84. The ments and the NDDB to place Sixth Plan oilseeds production target of well qualified people in the upper 130 lakh tonnes is likely to be achieeve. level management positions of the However, the imports of eddible oils federations and to keep these the past have been made to meet the people to their positions at least increasing demand mainly due to rise in three to four years. population. Further, it is too early to say regarding value of imports of edible oils 7. State federations should be divided in 1990, The quantum of edible oils to into geographical regions and the be imported in each year is decided by the processing plants Manager should Government taking into consideration the be given semi-autonomous juris- demand and production of indigenous oils diction within their area. in the country, foreign exchange availa- 8. The movement of raw material or bility and international prices etc. finished products ocross region should be decided at federation (b) The National Dairy Development headquarters. Boards Oilseeds Project of Rs. 150 crores initiated in J979, has achieved its 9. Larger plants may be appropriate objectives in as much as seven oilseeds in irrigated areas where production, growers cooperative federations have been procurement and optimal capacity registered in seven oilseeds growing States Utilisation are more certain. for assisting in production, procurement, processing and marketing of oilseeds and 10. The State federations should gradually reduce the use of NDDB vegetable oils. procurement support and begin (c) The last evaluation of the National utilising to the extent possible the Dairy Development Board’s Oilseeds commercial vehicles for procure- Project was carried put by a joint team ip ment. 1 Writtef! Answers MARCH 25. 1985 Written AfisMfers 212 11. Procurement be conductcd round THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the year. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). Yes Sir. According (d) The Indian Council of Agricultural to the Delhi Administration, M/s. Shriram feescarch and other institutions have Food and Fertilizers Ltd. located at evolved the following improved varieties Kajafgarh Road, New Delhi, around which of different oilseeds crc^s : the area is densely populated poses a Crop Improved varieties danger. It is a reported that recent inspection Groundnut JL-24, Kadri-3, MA-10, has revealed the inadequacies in the safety C-355, RS-138, G-201, requirements, particularly in the event of : 02 — leakage in any of the liquid chlorine Rapessed- RH-30, Sita, Kranti, storage tanks; mustard RW-351, RLM-198. RLM-514. — leakage from the transfer of liquid chlorine from one tank to another; Saflflower Tara, Bhima —absence of arrangements for neutrali- Linseed Neelam, SPS-77/23-10, sing the toxic gas before releasing it Himalini, LHCK-39, in the atmosphere; LHCK-131, LHCK-21. —absence of automatic gas detection ^Sunflower Surya, Morden, BSH-1, system with alarm for adequate CO-1. warning; and Niger Phule-1, IGP-39, — lack of training to the workers in the RCR-18. use of protective equipment. Soyabean Gaurav, Durga, Monetta (c) to (f). The Delhi Administration is contemplating drastic action against the All these varieties with suitable produc- management for failure to lay down tion techniC[ues have potential of increasing effective safely system to prevent a major the yield level of these oilseeds crops. disaster to the workers and the Lack of Adequate Safety Measures at community. Shri Ram and DCM Chemical Mills Complex Motinafiar, Delhi Provision of Basic Facilities in Laxmi 1014. SHRIMATl BIBHA GHOSH Nagar, Trans Yamuna Area GOSWAMl ; Will the Minister of 1015. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR : LABOUR be pleased to state ; Will the Minister of WORKS AND (a) whether Government are aware HOUSING be pleased to state ; that the Shri Ram DCM Chcmical Mills complex near Mot inagar, Delhi lacks (a) whether it is a fact that the Delhi adequate safety measures and that its Development Authority is not paying any location in the densely inhabited area is attention to the provision of basic facilities positively dangerous; like surfaced roads and diainage in Laxmi Nagar, Trans-Yamuna area; (b) if so, the details thereof; (b) if so, the reasons why the work of (c) whether Government propose to tarring the roads on which gravel layer enquire into the matter; was put some two years ago has not b^n (d) whether Government propose to started as yet; take any action against the management of (c) by what time the roads would be the said factory; metalled with tar and drainage facilities (e) if so, when and the nature of will be provided; and action to be taken; and (d) the action taken in this regard (f) if not» thQ rea$Q|T5 thereof ? during the last two months in this colony ? 213 Written Ans^^ers CHAITRA 4, 191Q7 (SAKA) Wri(ten Answers 214 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (d) There is no divergence between HOUSING (SHRl ABDUL GHAFOOR) ; the statement made at the 24th Convoca- (a) This is not a fact. tion address at Indian Agricultural Research Institute on 2 February, 1985 ' (b) The DDA work of providing and the views expressed in the R.B.l, surfaced roads, including metalling and Annual Report, 1983-84. Notwithstand- black topping and drainage is going on in ing some marginal shortfalls anticipated all earnestaess. in the achievement of Sixth Plan targets (c) It is likely to be completed by of a few agricultural crops, the fact December, 1985, even though the benefici- remains that the country had harvested aries have not so far deposited the record foodgrains and oilseeds production development charges as required. in 1983-84, as a result of which the all- India index of agricultural production had (d) The DDA have completed about registered a growth rate of 13.6% over the 20% of the work during the last two year 1982-83. months. Agricultural Pricc Commission Divergent views on the Achievements of Sixth Plan Targets of Crops 1017. SHRI N. V. RATNAM; Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND 1016. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE state: AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state. (a) the basis on which the Agricultural Prices Commission was established and (a) whether during the 24th Convoca- details of its composition; tion address at Indian Agricultural Research Institute on 2 February, 1985, (b) whether the Government of Andhra he intcr-alia observed that Sixth Plan Pradesh had written to the Centre on 26 targets for few agricultural crops such as June, 1984 to fix the support price for pulses, sugarcane, cotton, jute and mesta paddy etc. more than the present price may not be achieved in full; fixed by the Commission; (b) if so, the reasons for non-fulfilment (c) if so, the action taken thereon; of fixed targets; and (c) whether R.B.l. in their report for (d) the reasons for not making Govern- ■ 1983-84 had attributed sound economic ment of Andhra Pradesh a member of growth mainly ttie achievements made in the Commission through Andhra Pradesh agriculture sector; and is mainly an agricultural State ? (d) if so, the precise reasons for diver- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- gent views expressed in relation to TURE AND RURAL DEVELOLMENT agriculture sector ? (SHRI BUTA SINGH) : (a) The Agricul- tural Prices Commission, now re-named THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE as Commission for Agricultural Costs and. a n d RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI Prices, was set up in 1965 on the recom- BUTA SINGH) : (a) Yes Sir. mendation of Jha Committee of foodgrain prices to provide advice on a continuing (b) The main reason for non-fulfil- basis on agricultural price policy. The ment of Sixth Plan Targets in respect of present composition provides for a Chais- a few crops is attributed to inadequate map, two Members and one Membec rairifaJl and prolonged dry spells ex- Secretary, One Member of the Commis- perienced in some parts of the country sion is a non-official with understending during 1984 monsoon , season (June to of agricultural production and consumer September) and subsequent failure of problems. past-monsoon and winter rains. (b) The Commission is only aj recom- (c) Yes, Sir. mendatory body. However, Government .1 ii5 Written Answers MARCrt l5 ,1985 Written Answers 216 of Andhra Pradesh had suggested to the details of the action taken or proposed to Central Government that support prices be taken ? be fixed at levels higher than those recommended by the Commission for THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL kharif crops of 1984-85. SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). the Government are aware (c) After a carcful consideration of all of the matter regarding the expension the relevant factors including the views of undertaken by Shri Madhi Vibhag Khand Government of Andhra Pradesh and other Udyog Sahakari Mandi Ltd. Mandi, Distt. State Governments, the Government of Surat raising their factory’s capacity from India had fixed the following support 2500 T.C.D. to 3500 T.C.D. The legal prices for 1984-85 kharif crops: ramifications of the entire matter are under active examination of the Commodity Support Prices fixed Government. for 1984-85 season (Rs. per quintal) 12.00 hrs. Paddy (Common) 137 [Eng/ish] Jowar, Bajra, Maize 130 SOME HON. MEMBERS Rose Urad 275 [//iterniptiofts] Moong 275 Tur (Arhar) 275 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I have Groundnut 340 already told the House in the beginning itself that if all of you stand up and 535 Cotton (H-4) speak at the same time, 1 cannot hear you. All of you please sit down. Then (d) The present composition of the only I can call you. {interruptions)* If Commission which consists of experts has all of you are speaking like that, 1 can- been devised on scientific lines to examine not hear you. Nothing is going on record. all aspects of price policy. However, the All of you sit down first; you can raise Commission consults the State Govern- your hand and 1 will call you. But not ments before formulating its views on the like this. {Interruptions)* price policy. [Tlrans/ation] I would request the hon. Members to please sit down. Nothing is being recor- Increase of Capacity of Sugar Factory ded. I am very strict in this regard. by Shri Madhivibhag Khand XJdyog When I am standing, you please sit down. Sekhari Mandali Ltd., Gujarat (jnterruptions)* Nothing will go on 1018. SHRI C. D. GAMIT : Will the record. 1 am very Particular about it. I Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL am asking everyone to sit down. Then SUPPLIES be pleased to state : only I will allow. Otherwise, you are all taking the time of the House.* (a) whether Shri Madhivibhag Khand {Interruptions)* Udyog Sehkari Mandali Ltd., Madhi, district Surat, Gujarat has increased the Everything is important. But I will capacity of its sugar factory from 2500 not allow in this way. I am repeatedly T.C.D. to 3500 T.C.D. without obtaining telling you to raise your hand, not to permission from Government of India, stand up and shout, and I will call you. Ministries of Food and Civil Supplies and Otherwise, how can I hear you ? This is Industry not an orderly way. I am rupeatedly requesting you not to go on speaking and (b) if so, the details thereof; and shouting like that. All of you please sit dowh first. I will call you. (c) whether the Government of India have taken any action against this concern PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE for violating the’licensing^laws; if so, the (Rajapur) : Shall I make a submission ? ♦Not recorded. il7 Written Answers CHAITRA 4. i90^ (SAKA) Written Answers 21B On 23rd March, the Lok Sabha was and the Seventh Lok Sabha. already in session. When the Lok Sabha was in session, the Prime Minister made THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE a policy announcement about Punjab out- AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI side the House . . . (.Interruptions) There BUTA SINGH) : It is totally irrelevant. are Precedents. I want to quote three There is nothing in that. Precedents, the rulings given by the ilnterruptions) Speaker. During the Fifth Lok Sabha, when the Union Labour Minister announ- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I simply ced the bonus policy outside the House, said that we received his notice. There is he was told that he could not do it out- no privilege in that. There is nothing. side . . . Unterruptions). I have moved a privilege motion about SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI the Prime Minister, making a policy (Srinagar) : Elections were scheduled announcement about Punjab outside the to be held in Ladakh in the month of House when the House was in session on June. But the Election Commission has 23rd March. I have sought your consent changed the date of elections in Ladakh to the motion. to April this year. This change of the time of the elections in Ladakh will create MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I have a number of problems to the people of received your notice regarding this matter. Ladakh and therefore the date of the There is no question of privilege involved. elections in Ladakh should not be changed. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Have you received three precedents that MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The I have ? There are precedents about the Election Commission is an independent Union Labour Minister, Mr. Khadilkar Body. We cannot do anything about the and the Railway Minister who made change of the date of elections in Ladakh. policy announcements outside the House. 1 had told this to you in my chamber The speaker said, “You cannot do it out- itself. We cannot interfere in the matter. side the House. You can do it only in the {Interruptions) House.” MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; Please sit MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Nothing down. will go on record. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Are PROF. K. K. TEWARY (Buxar) : you keeping it under your consideration ? The Soviet official has been murdered in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : No Delhi. We have given notices for a consideration. discussion. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We have What about my Privilege motion ? already discussed this matter when you came to my Chamber. I have already MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : There is told you regarding this matter. The hon. no question of privilege in that. Minister Is going to make a statement in the afternoon. I have alread consulted PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Is it him. your ruling that there is no Privilege SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basir- involved in it ? hat) : I have given you a very urgent MR. DEPUTY SPEAKFR : There is notice. The Ministry of Information and no privilege involved. Broadcasting has suddenly issued orders closing down the Eastern and Southern PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : 1 Regional Production Centres of the Films will resume my seat. But I want to tell Division. you that I shall substantiate ;ny notice with the precedents in the past during the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; The hon. Fifth Lok Sabha, the Sixth Lok Sabha Minister has already answered this when 219 Papers laid on the Table MARCH 2$, 1985 Papers laid on the Table lift a supplementary question was put to him. immediate legislation by the Requisitioning and Acquisition of Immovable Property PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Bara- (Amendment) Ordinance, 1985. mulla) : The Home Minister must [Placed in Lii)rary. See No. LT-564/85] convince us as to why the elections in Ladakh are postponed .... Notifications under Essential Commodities Act, Review on :ind Annual Report of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKJER : We can- West Bengal Agro Industries not do anything. 1 have already told you Corporation Ltd. Calcutta for that the Election Commission is an 1980-81 etc., independent body. THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (Bankura) : Kindly allow me also — BUTA SINGH) : 1 beg to lay on the {Interruptions) Table : (1) A copy of Notification No. GSR MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : All the 93 (E) (Hindi and English versions) hon. Memixsrs may please sit down. We published in Gazette of India dated the are considering all the notices. I have 18th February, 1985 containing the Older already told you this. We shall consider regarding supplies of fertilizers to be made them in the Business Advisory Committee. by domestic manufacturers of fertilizers to various States/Union Territories/Commo- dity Boards/during the period from Isi 12.07 hrs. October, 1984 to 31st March, 1985, under PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE sub-section (6) of section 3 of thff Essential Commodities Act, 1955. Notifications under Delhi Development [Placed in Library. See No. LT-565/85] Act and a Statement re Requisition and Acquisition of Immovable (2) A copy each of the following Property (Amend.) Ordinance papers (Hindi and English versions) under section 619-A of the Companies Act, 1956 : THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING (SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR) ; (a) (i) Review by the Government I beg to lay on the Table : on the working of the West (1) A copy each of the following Bengal Agro-Industries Cor- Notifications (Hindi and English versions) poration Limited, Calcutta, for the year 1980-81. under section 58 of the Delhi Development Act, 1957 : (ii) Annual Report of the West Bengal Agro-Industries Cor- (1) The Delhi Development Authority- poration Limited, Calcutta, for Deputy Director (Planning) the year 1980-81 along with (Recruitment) Regulations, 1985, Audited Accounts and the published in Notification No. Secy/ comments of the Comptroller V and C/682/79~Part I in Gazette and Auditor General thereon. of India dated the 1st March, 1985. [Placcd in Library. See No. LT-566/85] (ii) The Delhi Development Authority- Director (Horticulture) and Deputy (b) (i) Review by the Government Director (Horticulture) Recruit- on the working of the Punjab ment (Am.endment) Regulations, Agro-Industries Corporation 1985 published in Notification Limited, Chandigarh, for the No. F. 7 (11)/ PB-1/43 in Gazette year 1979-80. of India dated the 13th March, fii) Annual Report of the Ptiajab 1985. [Placed in Library. See No. Agro-Industries Corporation LT-563/85] ' Limited, Chandigarh, for the year 1979-80 along with (2) An explanatory statement (Hindi ’ Audited Accounts aruj the and English versions) giving reasons for comments of the ComptrpUci 2l\ Papers laid on the Table CHAITRA 4, i907 (SAKA) Message from Rajya Sabha 222 and Auditor General thereon. Government on the working [Placed in I.ibrary. Sec No. of the National Cooperative LT-567/85] Land Development Banks’ Federation, Bombay, for the (c) (i) Review by the Government year 1983-84. on the working of the Kerala [Placed In Library. See No. Agro-Industries Corporation LT-570/85] Limited, Trivandrum, for the year 1980-81. Notifications under Food Corporations Act (ii) Annual Report of the Kerala Agro-Industries Corporation THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Limited, Trivandrum, for the CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA year 1980-81 along with SINGH) ; 1 beg to lay on the Table a Audited Accounts and the copy of the Food Corporations (Amend- comments of the Comptroller ment) Rules, 1985, (Hindi and English and Auditor General thereon. versions) published in Notification No. [Placed in Library. See No, GSR 146 (E) in Gazette of India extra- LT-568/85] ordinary dated the 12th March, 1985 under sub-section (3) of section 44 of the Food (d) (i) Review by the Government Corporations Act, 1964. on the working of the [Placcd in Library. See No. LT-571/85] Karnataka Agro-Industries Corporation Limited, Banga- Annual Report of and Review on lore, for the year 1981-82. National Safet>^ Council, Bombay for 1983-84 and a Statement re Delay (ii) Annual Report of the in laying these Papers Karnataka Agro-Industries Corporation Limited, Banga- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE lore, for the year 1981-82 MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. alongwith Audited Accounts ANJIAH) : I beg to lay on the Table : and the comments of the Comptroller and Auditor 1. (i) A copy of the Annual Report General threon. fHindi and English versions) of [Placed in I ibrary. See No. the National Safety Council, LT-569/85] Bombay, for the year 1983-84 (3) Four statements (Hindi and along with Audited Accounts. English versions) showing reasons for delay (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and in laying the papers mentioned at (a) to English versions) by the Govern- (d) of item (2) above. ment on the working of the [Placed in Library. Sec No. LT-569/85] National Safety Council, Bombay, for the year 1983-84. (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) 2. A statement (Hindi and English of the National Cooperative versions) showing reasons for delay in Land Development Banks, laying the papers mentioned at (1) above. Federation, Bombay, for the [Placed in Library. See No. LT-572/85J year 1983-84. (ii) A copy of the Annual 12.08 hrs. Accounts (Hindi and English MESSAGE FROM RAJYA SABHA versions) of the National [English] Cooperative Land Develop- ment Banks’ Federation, SECRETARY GENERAL : Sir, I have Bombay, for the year 1983-84 to report the following message received together with Audit Report from the Secretary-General of Rajya thereon. Sabha : (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi “I am directed to inform the Lok Sabha and English versions) by the that the Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held or^ 223 Message from Rajya Sabha MARCH 25, 1985 Govt, o f Union Territories 224 {Amendment) Bill the 22nd March, 1985, has passed the House, namely :— enclosed motion referring the Mental Health Bill, 1981, to a Joint Committee of 1. Shri Bhuvnesh Chaturvcdi ' the Houses and the request that the 2. Shri Sukhdev Prasad concurrence of the Lok Sabha in the said 3. Shri Kishor Mehta motion and the names of the Members of the Lok Sabha to be appointed to the said 4. Shri Natha Singh Joint Committee may be communicated to 6. Shrimati Amarjit Kaur this House.” 6. Shrimati 11a Bhattacharya Motion 7. Shri Era Sambasivam “Whereas this House at its sitting 8. Dr. Bapu Kaldate held on the 27th July, 1982, adopted a motion, that the Bill to consolidate and 9. Shri Jagdambi Prasad Yadav amend the Law relating to the treatment 10. Shri Leonard Soloman Saring and care of mentally ill persons, to make and 20 members from the Lok Sabha; better provision with respect to their property and affairs and for matters That in order to constitute a meeting connectcd therewith or incidental thereto, of the Joint Committee the quorum shall be referred to a Joint Committee of the be one-third of the total number of mem- Houses consisting of 30 members, 10 bers of the Joint Committee; members from this House and 20 members That in other respects, the Rules of from the Lok Sabha; Procedure of this House relating to Select And whereas this House appointed Committees shall apply with such varia- 10 members from this House to the said tions and modifications as the Chairman Joint Committee; may make; And whereas this House recom- That the Committee shall make a mended that the Lok Sabha do join in the report to this House by the 31st October, said Joint Committee and communicate 1985; and to this House the names of members to be That this House recommends to the appointed by Lok Sabha to the Joint Lok Sabha that the Lok Sahba do join in Committee; the said Joint Committee and Communi- And whereas a message was there- cate to this House the names of members after transmitted to the Lok Sabha on the to be appointed by the Lok Sahba to the 28th July, 1982, communicating to the Lok Joint Committee.” Sabha the adoption of the said motion by this House; 12.10 Hrs. And whereas the Lok Sabha at its GOVERNMENT OF UNION TERRI- sitting held on the 13th August, 1982, TORIES (AMENDMENT) BILL* adopted a motion concurring in the said [English] recommedation of this House and nomina- ting 20 members from the Lok Sabha to THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS serve on the said Joint Committee; (SHRI S. B. CHAVAN) ; Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further And whereas the Lok Sabha was to amend the Government of Union dissolved on the 31st December, 1984, Territories Act, 1963. before the Joint Committee could conclude its deliberations and a new Lok Sabha was MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The ques- thereafter constituted on the same day; tion is : Now therefore this House do resolve “That leave be granted to introduce that the aforesaid Bill be referred to a a Bill further to amend the Government Joint Committee of the Houses consisting of Union Terriories Act, 1963.” of 30 members, 10 members from this The Motion was adopted. ♦Pbulished in Ga?ette of India Extraordinaiy, Part-ll, Section-2, dated 25-3-1985. 225 Matters Under Rule 377 CHAITRA 4, 1907 (S^KA) Matters Under Rule 377 226 SHRI S. B. CHAV AN: Sir, I introduce (ii) Demand for reviving the licence of the Kisan Sahkari Checni Mills of the Bill. ' Akbarpur (Faizabad) U. P. [Translation] SHRI R. P. SUMAN (Akbarpur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, under Rule 377, I MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 would like to submit that approval was accorded by the Central Government for setting up of a sugar mill named ‘The (i) Demand for allocation of sufficient Kisan Sahkari Cheeni Mills Ltd.’ Akbarpur funds for systematic development district Faizabad which is the most back- of Chilka lake ward area of eastarn Uttar Pradesh in the year 1975-76. An office was opened in *SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK Akbarpur therefor and it functioned for (Cutlack) : Sir, the Chilka lake, which is more than a year and encouraged the one of ihe most beautiful lakes in India sugarcane-growers in Akbarpur and Tanda and is a place of national tourist import- tehsils resulting in more sugarcane produc- ance, is losing its beauty as sufficient interest tion. A sum os Rs. 20 lakhs collected has not been shown for its development. from the farmers as share-capital is still This biggest lake of the country is silting lying in the Government treasury. The site has also been selected. Sir, the licence up very fast. of the said mill was cancelled during the Different kinds of birds in large groups, Janata Party rule due to which there is a including swans, migrate to this lake every lot of resentment among the farmers and year. They are the main attraction for the the amount of share-capital is lying tourists. It is rightly said that Chilka lake unused. On the request made by the then is the home of swans. But it is a matter local MLA and myself, the hon. Chief of great concern that their number is Minister of Uttar Pradesh has written to dwindling every year. the Central Government to revive the licence of the said proposed sugar mill. Akbarpur Lok Sabha Constituency is very The lake water sometimes gets conta- backward. Thousands of areas of waste- minated and lakes heavy soli of birds due land are lying without being put to any to spraying of pesticides by cultivators on use in that area. J, therefore, urge upon the land around it. Unless necessary the Government to revive the licence of measures are taken to develop the lake to “the Kisan Sahkari Cheeni Mills” of attract the birds, their migration will come Akbarpur in view of the above facts, to an end. to provide funds in the Seventh Five Though the proposal to open a bird Year Plan and also ensure that this Mill is observatory centre at Chilka was mooted set up. many years back, it has not been imple- [English] mented so far mainly due to lack of resour- ces. It is necessary to prepare a scheme (iii) Need to Start a ‘Vayudoot Air Service* for the systematic development of Chilka to various parts of Jammu and lake. Measures like desilting the lake, Kashmir keeping the lake free from pollution, plantation of dense forest around the lake SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu) ; to attract the birds and creation of a bird Sir, I want to bring to the notice of the observatory centrc should be included in hon. Minister for Civil Aviation a serious the above scheme. problem which the people of various parts j of J and K State, namely, Poonch, Rajouri, I urge upon the Prime Minister to Kishtwar, Bhadarwah, Bani and Kargil, allocate sufficient funds to implement the are facing as there are no adequate means above scheme for the all-round develop- of transport to reach the district, tehsil or ment of Chilka lake. block headquarters. Moreover, the hon. Minister has already promised to consider ♦The spcech was originally delivered la Oriya, 227 Matters Under Ruh 317 MARCH 25, 1985 Matters Under RuJe 377 228 starting of ‘Vayudoot’ Air Scrvicc in these [Engliih] areas to provide transport facilities to the people of these areas. (v) Need for Central GoverDment’s alloting Sufficient Funds for meeting the acute drinking water I would like to request the hon. Mini- shortage in Anantpur ster of Tourism and Civil Aviation to start district of A. P. the Vayudoot Air Service in these areas at the earliest keeping in view the difficul- SHRIK. RAMACHANDRA REDDY ties faced by the inhabitants of these areas. (Hindupur) : Anantpur district in Andhra Pradesh is a chronic famine- affected area. This district has got the [Translation] second lowest rainfall in the country. Continuous drought has created a very (Iv) Demand for making provision in the acute water problem in the talukas, Seventh Plan for irrigation facilities namely, Kadiri, Satya-Sai, Penukonda, to Barmer and Jalore Districts of Dharmavaram, G.K. Palli, Hindupur and Rajasthan from the Narmada Madakasira. People in these Talukas are river facing acute shortage of drinking water. All the drinking water sources are dried up. SHRl VIRDHl CHANDER JAIN : The Drinking water bores have gone dry as Narmada Water Dispute tTribunal in its water lev'el is receding below. People are award has allotted 0.50 million acre-feet forced to go a few miles to fetch a pail of of water of the Narmada river for irrigation water. To save the people of this area in Barmer and Jalore districts of Rajasthan. from water famine Central Government The Rajasthan Government propose to is requested to allot sufficient funds and irrigate 99,035 hectares of agricultural deploy deep drilling rigs to drill drinking land in these districts but the project water bores to a depth of 300 ft and save report has not been submitted so far. The the people from thirst and also provide Central Government should, therefore, sufficient funds for single point distribution impress upon the State Government to water system to all villages, immediately prepare the project report and submit the same. (vO Demand for unconditional release of Swami Agnivesh and his Colleagues before the Tripartite meeting to According to the construction work settle quarry worker’s dispute going on at present, the main canal in Gujarat is likely to be completed by 1995- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE 96 upto Rajasthan border. The Rajasthan (Rajapur) : While replying to my call Government has emphasized the need for attention notice on 20th March, 1985 on its completion by June 1991. the stone quarry workers’ agitation at Faridabad for the implementation of the Being the representative of that area, it Supreme Court’s judgment regarding the is my submission that in the desert and workers and killing of a Harijan worker, border districts of Barmer and Jalore, the Union Labour Minister had announced wtiere there is acute Scarcity of drinking on the floor of the House that a sym- water, the waters of the Narmada may be pathetic view would be taken about the made available by 1991 so that the land demands of the quarry workers and a lying dry for thousands of yearse could be tripartite meeting would be held of settle irrigated. the dispute. Violating the spirit of this assurance, Swamy Agnivesh, the leader of The Central Government should provide the Bhanduao Mukti Morcha has been special assistance to the State Government arrested along with his colleagues. I urge keeping in view the backwardness of these the Labour Minister to ensure uncondi- districts, so that the work is under- tional release of Swamy Agnivesh and his taken on a war-footing and completed by colleagues prior to the tripartite meeting 1991 in order to make the Narmada to settle the quarry workers’ dispute. waters available to Barmer and Jalore districts for irrigation, thereby converting SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA the desert area into fertile land. (Basirhat) : We support this, 229 Matters Under Rule 377 CHAITRA 4, /907 {SAKA) General Biulget, 1985^86 23q PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; as the workmen are ready to extend their Sometimes when we raise matters under full co-operation. Rule 377, the Speaker is pleased to direct the concerned Minister to make a state- (vHi) Demand for setting up of an industrial unit in Purnca district ment. This is a very important matter. ... of Bihar in order to provide employment opportunities MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : If the to the people of that area Minister wants, he can reply. But I cannot SHRtD. L. BAITHA (Araria) : Mr. compel. Deputy Speaker, Sir, 1 would like to draw PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Why the attention of the Government to an not, Sir ? I would Ukc you to use your important matter of public interest. good offices. District Purnea is very backward PROF N. G. RANG A (Guntur) : industrially. Although raw material such as He may send it to the Minister concerned- jute, rice, paddy-straw, paddy-husk and other agricultural produce is available (vii) Demand for appointing a full time there in abundance yet in this area, executive instead of the present pan especially in Araria Constituency, no time one iir the Bharat Brakes industrial un't has been established so far and values Calcutta which could provide means of livlihood SHRl SATFUDDIN CHOWDHURY in this labour-predominant area. A jute (Katwa) : There has been a move by mill that was set up there is not function- some interested quarters to ruin a nation- ing and is in the same condition as it was alised company, v/z-, Bharat Brakes and ten or eleven years ago. As a result, a Values, Calcutta. This public sector unit number of local labourers are leaving the made profit before tax in the year 1980-81 villages for other places in search of and production rose from 17 lakhs to 80 livelihood. The village is wearing a, lakhs. The production and growth of this deserted look. unit reached a record level and the joint I would, therefore, request the Govern- production committee worked well till ment to set up an industrial unit in this M a r c h , 1984. Deputationists from Bum backward area soon so that the local Standard and some officers of this unit people could be provided with employ- are now involved in fighting amongst ment. themselves. Such is the situation now that all s^tions of employees have become 12.20 hrs. frustrated including a good section of GENERAL BUDGET, 1985-86— young engineers. Factory production has GENERAL DISCUSSION got retarded. There is not plan and AND initative to bring the new products in SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR production line. Ad kocism has become the GRANTS (GENERAL), 1984-85 order of the day. Demand for workers’ —Contdf participation in the management for growth and welfare of the workers including [English] implementation of old settlements are denied. Even Government’s directives are DR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now, the being disregarded. House will take up items No. 7 and 8 together. Already we have taken more A new diversified item viz-> LPG than the allotted time but still many Mem- cylinder is virtually closed as this is being bers are interested in participating. imported from Brazil. Therefore, I urge upon the Government to appoint a full- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE time executive instead of the present part- MTNISTRS OF PARLIAMENTARY time Chief Executive and remove the a f f a i r s . (SHRI GHULAM NABI high-salaried deputationists from the . AZAD) : Sir, 1 propose that time be Company. The Company should initiate a extended by another two hours and the proper enquiry into the affairs and bring Finance Minister may reply to the debate back, this public sector unit in proper gear at 2.15 p.m. 231 General Budget^ 1985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 232 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : All right. all other basic commodities, like foodgrains But as there are still many members who vegetables, fruits, etc. Then, there will be want to participate I request the Members higher cost of power rates, that is, elec- to be very brief. Each member will be tricity. Therefore, rise in prices in the given four minutes. At the end of three basic items which are very necessary for minutes I will ring the bell and if the the common man cannot be ruled out. members exceeds four minutes it will not But the question is : what is the option go on record. left to meet the situation? The only option SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI left to meet the situation is that we need (Muzaffarpur) ; Sir, 1 rise to speak in to increase production in agriculture and support of the budget proposals but at the industrial fields. There had been certain same time I would like to make some liberalisation in the licensing policy. But observations. It is true that the present the question arises as to whether this budget is indicative of a practical approach liberalisation is going to bring the desired towards the budget proposals and what- result within the period of one year for ever may be said it is certainly a non- which this budget has been presented. The conventional budget that has been placed oflBcial machinery has been accustomed to before us. It has given relief to 10 lakh a long procedural process in which there workers who come within the Rs. 15,000- are delays here and there. I do not know 18,000 slab. It is also a welcome approach whether the action on one item of libera- that CDS has been discontinued but there lisation of licensing would be able to is one implication to this. The implication quicken the pace and bring in the required is that not only the withdrawals have not speed in the economic development. If that been allowed this year but also they will is not done, then certain mid-way will have to deposit CDS amount this year. have to be made in the agriculture produc- The facility of withdrawing one-fifth of the tion in the country. There is a major earlier deposits is not available this year. scope for rise in agricultural production This has created lot of hardship to the if underground water potential is har- salaried class. nessed. The underground water potential assessment was made a few years back and At the same time I would like to point according to them underground water out that while it has given relief to limited potential exists in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, sections of persons it has touched many part of Madhya Pradesh and Bengal pockcts by increasing the price of diesel, where the difference between the agricul- kerosene oil, vegetable oil,and soap. Tax tural potential and the actual production soap is supposed to be a tax on cleanliness. is high. If that is done, it will go a long I realise that scope of manoeuvrability way to check the price rise. Thank you. before the Finance Minister is not much because he has to defray a huge SHR! K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN amount on the defence expenditure, that (Badagara) ; Mr, Deputy-Speakerj Is, about Rs. 7686 crores, repayment of Sir, I am a greatful for your indulgence. interest charges to the tune of Rs. 7075 Sir, I am sure you will agree with me crores, fertiliser subsidy to the . extent of that every budget of this Cover nment is Rs. 1800 crores and than to the extent of framed in a particular milieu, external Rs. 1100 crores towards subsidy to the milieu, consisting of the factors dominate Food Corporation of India. All this along ing the world economy and our own with the non-plan expenditure of about interactions with international political Rs. 32,000 crores will make a total of Rs. and economic forces. It has also to reflect 50,000 and odd. Some amount woul d also the concerns of the government and the go towards the Post and Telegraph sub- party in power, and 1 presume the interests lidy. All this expenditure might discourage of 700 million people, majority of whom developmental expenditure. The scope for are still steeped in abject poverty, filth, manoeuvrability is also limited. There is misery and squallor. Therefore, it has to going to be price rice because of the rise concern not merely with 4 million tax* in diesel, coal and transport charges. payers and their needs but it must have When the transport charges go up, we a social philosophy and perspective. I have may except consequential rise in price in been looking at this Budget from this 3 G eneral Bu iget, 1985-86 CH\ITRA 4, 1907 iSAKA) General Budget, 1985-86 -JllA angle, a Budget which has been welcomed ning which began in 1950 and adoption of by luminaries of the corporate world and Avadi Resolution of socialistic pattern of particularly my esteemed friend, Shri society, with the Industrial Policy Nani Palkhiwala, for whom I have great Resolution of 1956 and adoption of respect, but to those, as it used to be said socialism as its goal in 1964 at Bhubanes- in the United States ‘What is good for war session of the Congress and even the General Motors is good for the U. S.’ and inclusion of the word ‘socialism’ in the 60 what is good for Tatas and Birlas is Preamble of the Constitution itself in good for India. 1976, there was a continuty in perspective and approach. Socialism may have So, I concede the right of Mr. Rajiv become an obsence word for some and Gandhi, the new Prime Minister and his many in the ruling party, and particularly party, to strike his own path in the those who control its destiny, but I want context of a massive mandate. to point out that it is this pers- But the question I want to pose in all pective and approach which is sought to sincerity seriousness and humilits to be destroyed today through this Budget. Members of the Congress benches on the Therefore, whether on land ceiling or other side is whether this is their policy nationalisation of certain essential indus- and perspective and this is the direction tries or assigning the commanding heights that Congress had charter for itself under of economy to public sector or in the Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru and fiscal policy instruments like wealth tax even Indira Gandhi. which could not be collected, or the estate duty, there was a design and The Finance Minister has talked of purpose. It was to emphasis- on certain 'new responses to the objective conditions.’ distributive aspects of economy and forge A very good phrase indeed. But what are appropriate policy tools. That is how we the objective conditions ? Objective condi- built up planning process and a regulatory tions of the society whice we wanted to framework of economy and a legal frame- drastically change and orient to an egali- work for planned democratic solialism. It tarian social order or objective conditions is this very object which has been given a of business and business environments. go-by in this Budget. There was a party called Swatantra Party in India, which, I am sure you remember, The underlying potulates and motiva- has disappeared in the limbo of history tions of a pattern of society we had in our and which Jawaharlal Nehru used to say is a mind are in a shambles today. According fossilised growth. Swatantra Party is dead to Dr. Brahamnanda who is by no means and gone, but I regret to say its ghost has a socialist economist but one who shares resurrected itself in my esteemed and dear the prospective of the national struggle, friend Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh’s at least Rs. 1000 crores have been given budget, and the philosophy of Swatantra away to relatively affluent sections, abdi- Party has been revived unfortunately by cating the national goals. It is a total Shri Rajiv Gandhi’s Government and his retreat from the path of an egalitarian Finence Minister. society and self-reliance based on a faulty Budgeting is essentially, as they say, a premise that development of corporate book-keeping excrcise, but whose books sector holds the key to the solution of the do you keep ? If lou look at the books of problems of poverty, unemployment, Tatas, Birlas etc., this is exactly the kind disease and ignoranse. It is towards priva- of budget you would have. tisation—I repeat—of initiatives in the economy at the expence of the poor and From the days of the National Plan- it is even in defianse of what is reflected ning Committee in 1938 to the Congress in the Approach Paper to the 7th Plan Economic Committee of 1948 and adoption framework. One has only to go through of your Constitution with Directive the amount proposed to the spent on Principle of policy of charging the State certain vital areas. What has this Budget with the responsibility of creating an done ? Under NREP, from Rs. 236 crores egalitarian social order to Industrial in 1984-85, 'the allocation has been .Policy Resolution 1948, process of plan* brought from to Rs. 230 crores. 235 General Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 236 Allocation for drought-prone areas have been taken for a ‘go’, they have programme has been brought down from been taken for a ride by certain people. Rs. 10 crores to Rs. 8 crores. Allocation Therefore, this budget will encourage for agricultural financial institutions which widening of dispariies and ide^ualities, are playing a vital role has bean brought against which the nation has long ago down almost by 142 crores, from Rs. 297 decided, in the distribution of income crores to Rs. 155 crores. Collage and and wealth. There could be an inflow of village industries which is used with a funds to share market. With what Pundits certain approach on the technological like Nani Palkhivala and other numerious instruments, whatever may be one’s diffe- tax experts and those who manage the rences, has been brought down by Rs. 19 share markets, praising the Finance crores. Allocation for self employment Minister and the budget, the private schemes for educated unemployed has been sector will undoubtedly corner the resour- brought down from Rs. 149 crores to Rs, ces which the Finance Minister has 69 crores, by 80 crores of rupees. refused to pick up and mobilise. He has shifted away from resource mobilisation Sir, housing, which is another vital of the kind that was necessary to have a sector has been brought down from Rs. 84 large plan frame and expenditure on crores to Rs. 39 crores. Allocation for the public sector or expenditure on the total welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled framework of the Seventh Plan. Tribes, which 1 thought would be a prime concern, has been brought down from Rs. Sir, in addition, this budget has certain 71 crores to Rs. 42 crores. Rural Landless inherent factors. 1 do not want to go Employment Guarantee Programme and the into all the details because the time at my Drought-prone Areas Programme remain disposal is limited. It will only build a stagnant. This explaint the pattern as also higher rate of inflation. Keeping the a design and purpose. existing distribution of income in our Sir, now the argument may be that the society in view, I am sure, you know State Governments are supposed to pick whom it hits hard. It will hit hard the up and create revenue base, which is non- bottom 30 per cent. If you care to read existent, for pursuing some of these the National Sample Survey reports. You goals and programmes. Now, can the will find that, unfortunately there are Finance Minister tell this House honestly more destitutes today in 1985, than that the State Governments (consider- in 1950, 1960, 1970 or 1980. This ing the context of the approach that they unfortunately being the condition have towards the State Governments, today in our society, the Finance Minister whether their own party or other parties) has chosen willingly—I do not know with the existing huge budgetary deficits, whether unwillingly—a path to cut at the huge overdrafts and a shrinking and very hands, not merely the hands narrow revenue base, can ever pick up but the very existence of the rural even the threads of what has been left and urban poor. Sir, there is a story behind for them ? in our parts, I do not know whether it is there in Tamil also. It is like send- Therefore, the rural and urban poor, ing a neighbour’s child down in a disused Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, the small well to dauge its depth. If he came out farmers, and even the better of farmers, alive, you knew the depth. If he died, the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled after all, he was not yours. That seems to Tribes and all the other under privileged be the approach of the Minister. sections of the society and all those who Struggle to eke out an existence, just existence, have been sacrified in the inte- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE rest of a few corporate giants and multi- (Rajapur) : The story is borrowed from nationals. This is a systematic approach Marathi Sir. and there is a clear design and purpose. SimiMATI VYJAYANTHIMALA BALI: _ I shall concede this to the new Prime Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir; 1 am grateful Miaister and the Finance Minister. They to you for giving me this oppprtunity * . . 237 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4.1907 General Budget, 1985-86 238 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; Only five honestly and willingly. With this relief in minutes. income tax and so much relief in the Corporate taxes on companies, this Budget SHRIMATI VYJAYANTHIMALA is going to make people pay their taxes BALI : You are already limiting my time, without murmur or grumbling. The Centre even before I start. Let me thank you will be able to distribute more financial for allowing me to express my views on help not only to various States, but be the Budget. able to plough substantially finances for rural development and public welfare I heartily welcome the Budget, and schemes and projects. , support it completely. This Budget, pre- sented by our hon. Finance Minister totally justifies the promises made to the I assure you that as a tax-payer, I feel nation by our young, dynamic Prime that by abolishing Estate Duty and Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi. What our Compulsory Dcdosit Schemes, our dynamic Opposition Members have been saying is Prime Minister’s policy has proved beyond rather pathetic. Just because they are in boubt that heavy taxation is definitely the Opposition benches, they believe they detrimental to the progress of our economy, can criticize, just for the sake This Budget is definitely going to be a great boon to our economy, by the middle of criticism, a Budget which has made a new landmark for its sheer concept and and the poor classes being thoroughly protected. They will be more than youthful thinking, a Budget which has given a new direction, and a Budget which compensated by the galloping improvement will benefit greatly the economy and the in our growth rate in all sectors, whether public or private. progress of our country. I would like to say about the Opposi- While speaking on this bold and tion Hain Aadat se majboor\ isliye bolenge progressive Budget, 1 would like to make zaroor : I would like to say that no less a an appeal to our dynamic young Prime son than Shri Palkhivala who is one Minister and his Government on a very of the most leading economists in the v=tal issue, namely the scarcity of water country, a severe critic of the Government throughout the country. With is to-day all praise for the Budget. He regard to the problem of water surely knows what he is talking about. He scarcity, I would like to appeal to the has said that this is the finest Budget in Centre to bring the Himalayan waters to the last four decades. He is an authority the length and breadth of the country by to-day, or he is an acknowledged autho- joining the rivers from the north to the rity on income tax and Company Jaws. rest of India. This can only be possible by The Opposition Members are ill informed... linking the rivers and letting their waters (.Interruptions) They can take time to through cannals to all the States of the laugh, later. country. I feel that this will serve five The Opposition Members choose to major purposes. (1) The floods and attack the Government, because they call droughts which cause immense damage it a rich man’s Budget. 1 would say that every year— in loss of life and properly— this is the best garibi hatao Budget, Our in loss of crops and cattle worth crorcs-— beloved leader Shrimati Indira Gandhi will disappear. (2) It will bring about had given the slogen Garibi hatao, and it national integration—and once the rivers is going to become a reality, because this are nationalised, the constant disputes and Budget is aimed at garibi hatao, by amiri friction between the States over river badhao. How can darkness be dispelled ? waters will be settled once, for alt. (3) The Only by bringing in light. How can poverty water supply from the mighty Himalayas be removed ? Only by increasing the w'ill bring prosperity to 95 per cent of our wealth of the country. And by doing this, population living in villages who will have I am sure, the economy of this country is wet land. (4) The mobern lechnoicgy will going to make good progress. give us ample scope to put up innumerable fertilizer plants. Abundance of water This Budget is going to encourage many supply and fertilizers will bring in the people to pay their income tax more greatest agricultural revolution in the 239 General Budget, 1985^6 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 240 country. India can soon be the granery of It is with deep humility that I rise to the world. (5) The unemployed millions speak on the Central Budget for the year living below the poverty line will get 1985-86. I sat heree for three days listening employment in this stupendous task. to the members of the opposition; they have opposed it lock-stock and bareel. When the super powers are busy stock- What had amazed me was not that they had piling deadly and destructive atomic opposed the budget of this government, weapons and arms, they will have to buy but they should have paid posthumous food to live because their polluned tribute to the budget presented by the late atmosphere will stop yielding them any Shrimati Indira Gandhi’s government. edible crops. Gandhiji’s prophecy will come true— that India docs not have to Just out of curiosity, I went to the produce anything-except food, to get rid Library and looked up the debates of of poverty. I know if will not be an last year. I found, not to my surprise, ordinary or easy task—Herculean task—but that even last year and the year before the youth always likes the challenge. In that, they opposed the budget with the this year of 1985 which is marked as the same vehemence. So, one has to conclude year of the youth, I would like to request that the opposition oppose this budget our Young Prime Minister and call upon generally, but will not dare stand up and the Youth of the country to take up this say, which concession is bad and which challenge and make India a dreamland of relief is bad. the world, green luscious and rich, prosperous, strong and united. National I have just heard my hon. friend Mr. integration and unity of the country is of Unnikrishnan. Let me ask him. Or, when paramount importance to every nationalist hon. friend Shri Indrajit Gupta went to Indian today. A great unifying force and the Finance Minister and asked him to fool-proof method to bring about, this abolish Compulsory Deposit, did he not integration is through the system of then know that the abolition of the education. I congratulate the hon. Finance Compulsory Deposit will benefit only 75 Minister for providing sufficient funds in million tax payers and not the 715 million the Budget to modernise our educational non-tax payers ? When my hon. friend system. I would appeal that education Shri Indrajit Gupta went to the Finance throughout the country should have or Minister and said, “Raise the Income follow a uniform system so that children Tax limit from Rs. 15,000 to Rs. 18,000” from different States can be admitted to did he not then know that any tax any school in any part of the country. concession benefits only the tax payer ? That can only be possible if the standard I thought it was elementary, as Sherlock of education and the text-books are the Holmes said. same throughout the country. Even if it SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : That was comes to nationalizing education, it will be not my only suggestion. I made other a step in the right direction and put a suggestions also. stop to all mushroom schools that give substandard education and demand dona- SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM ; It is my tions for one reason or the other. In many maiden speech. Please do not disturb cases there arc unqualified and untrained me. teachers handling the future citizens of India. As Sherlock Holmes used to say, “It is elementary, my dear Watson”, I think I This is really a matter of grave convern should tell Mr. Gupta, "It is elementary, to all, rich or poor alike. I am sure that my dear Mr. Gupta.” in this budget, maximum attention will be paid to revolutionize the system of If tax concessions are granted, whether education as assured by our dynamic it be by this Government, or the Janata Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi. 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Any price rise occurs Under the Act there is a six months in 1985-86 will be on top of 4.4 per cent period for accountability. The accountable which was on top of 13.7 per cent. I person has to file a return after a death. would urge the Finance Minister to kindly Logically this benefit should be given re-consider these levies, particularly levies effect to from 16-9-84 so that all accounts on aerated water, printing and writing which are pending and where the accoun- paper, bidis soap and travel goods. The table person has not yet filed the return, total of this comes to about Rs. 60 crores. should be relieved of the burden of filing If these levies are not imposed, I do not of the returns in respect of a death which think the total deficit will increase so occurred after 16-9-84. enormously that one has to make up the With these misgivings, which, I hope, deficit by imposing these levies. stir a debate and the hon. Finance Mini- My other misgiving is on Tariff Item 68. ster will be pleased to clear in his reply, I Let me congratulate the Finance Minister think, by and large, this Budget fulfils the that he is the first Finance Minister, who promises for growth and social has stood up to the mechanised match justice and it will fulfil the pro- industry’s lobby. He has now rationalised mises that we arc going to emphasise it. But, I think, his Department has let on food, work and productivity. 1 do him down in Tariff Item 68. Tariff Item sincerely hope that the hon. Finance 68 is the new Kamdhenu. When it was Minister will take note of the sentiments introduced by Shri C. Subramaniam, we expressed in this House and in his reply knew that it would be stirring the hornets’ will give us some clarifications to nest. From 1 per cent it was increased to the m.isgivings which I have expressed. 10 per cent and now it is increased to 12 SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore per cent excise at the specific levy whereas South) : Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was Tariff Item 68 is the residual basket. It is really feeling happy when the new Govern- a mindless levy without knowing exactly ment was formed at the Centre and our what will come in Item 68. Mostly the young Prime Minister said that ^his year’s industries are small scale industries. And it Budget will be a departure from the past, will give rise to an all sound price increase. I have gone through the Budget Speech of The ancillaries etc. will be affected. I the hon. Finance Minister. Of course, it would urge the Finance Minister to do has been a departure in the sense that the away with Tariff Item 68 and introduce deficit has been so huge as Rs. 3,394 specific commodities as he has done in the crores. It is unprecedented. Never in the case of four commodities, in the Schedule history of the Central Budget has there and let us not have this residual basket been such a fantastic figure of deficit as and have a blanket levy of 10 or 12 per this. Just now one of the hon. lady Mem- cent. bers from Madras said this is a "garibi There is one other thing about Tariff hatao" Budget. Looking at the Budget Item 68. Until this year there was a full from this point of view, I would like to exemption upto Rs. 30 lakhs. In 1977 ask how is the poorest of the poor, the there was a sliding back and we reduced it man below this poverty line, going to be to Rs. 15 lakhs. But this year, I find benefited by the Budget. Just now I have that the Finance Minister has taken away heard a very interesting speech from the full exemption upto Rs. 30 lakhs. There is hon. Member Shri Chidambaram. He a levy at Rs. 20 lakhs and at made a very good speech indeed. I want Rs. 25 lakhs. This is not good for the to ask whether it will really help the poor. small scale industry and the ancillary Except one silver lining in the Budget, industry. The Finance Minister should that is crop insurance and social s^urity, restore the full exemption upto Rs. 30 in which other aspect the Budget has lakhs for Tariff Item 68. helped the poorest of the poor ? The other things like NREP, IROP, etc. are routine Finally, about Estate Duty. I welcome things going on for the past several years. abolition of Estate Duty. But I cannot In spite of these programmes if you see understand why it is to take effect from the number of persons who are below the March, 1985. Nobody can plan ?ihead. poverty line, you will find that their num- 245 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) General Budget, 1985-86 246 ber has remained constent. . There are two or three projects in Karnataka which have been ignored. We 13.01 hrs. have been urging in this House and in the [Shri Vakkom Purushothaman in the Chair] other House that the Vijayanagar steel plant must be taken up and executed. I do welcome certain reliefs given but those will not help the poorest of the poor. We are surprised and we are shocked In the case of income-tax, the hon. Fin- to find that during the current year only ance Minister has raised the limit from Rs* Rs. 1-5 crorcs have been provided, as 15,000 to Rs. 18,000 and has also reduced against Rs. 2 crores lats year. Government the slabs. He has also done away with the should come forward and say whether surcharge on income-tax. Of course, this they are going to take it up or not. I will help to the extent that the irritation is want a categorical reply from the Govern- removed, but whatever relief he has given ment of India whether the Vijayanagar steel from one hand, he has taken away from plant is going to be taken up or whether the other* During the last two-three you are going to shelve it. This is a very days I have done a little home work. I important matter, so far as Karnataka is was shocked to learn from the middlc- concerncd. Therefore, I would request the class people, even from those who are hon. Minister to state the position cate- income-tax assessees, that the monthly gorically. expenditure of a middle-class family in Bangalore City will increase by Re. 100 Another disappointment to the people because of the taxes levied by way of the of Karnataka is that, though the Govern- two Budgets presented by the Finance ment of India promised that the Electronic Minister and the Railway Minister. Of Telephone Exchange Factory will be set up course, I cannot say about those who are in Bangalore, not a single paisa has been below the poverty line because they have earmarked for that purpose. no income at ail. Their living is going to Thirdly, so far as the Kudremukh project become more miserable. The middle-lass in Karnataka is concerned, while last year people have told me that though other- you provided a sum of Rs. 17.93 crores, wise they would have had to pay a tax of this year the allotment has been reduced Rs. 225 to Rs. 500 but now they will have to Rs. 11.5 crores, yet another instance to pay nearly Rs. 1,200 because of the of Karnataka not getting its legitimate due. new levies. Particularly because of the increase in the excise duty on petrol which Finally, 1 come to my constituency. has been enhanced from Rs. 100 to Rs, Bangalore City, where the water problem 300 per metric tonne, the petrol dealers in has become a matter of grave concern* Bangalore City have increased the price of Only today morning, I had a question in petrol by Rs. 1.05. The petrol dealers have my name on this subject. Unfortunately, their lobby and if you increase the price it was not reached. We have submitted a by eighty paise, they will add another scheme for taking up Cauvery Third Stage. twenty paise of their own. I have also In the proposed reply of the Minister to made calculations in respect of kerosene the question it is stated that the Karna* and other articles of daily use like cosme- taka State should get the concurrence of tics, soap, etc. I visited about three-four the basin State before it is taken up. So families of various income groups between far as drinking water is concerned, what Rs. 500 and Rs. 1>500* All of them feel is the necessity for the Government of that their cost of living will really go up Karnataka to get the concurrence of the and it will be impossible for them to bear basin State ? It is not at all necessary. It this burden. So, 1 urge upon the Finance is a matter of life and death for 35 lakhs Minister to withdraw these levies. If these of people in Bangalore City. So, I would levies are mdant to give relief to the per- request the Government of India to give sons in the matter of income-tax, then I do immediate clearance for the taking up of not oppose these, but you have not given the Cauvery Third Stage scheme in the relief to any person. Of course, you have Seventh Plan. They should give not only been able to remove irritation but no relief clearance, but also financial aid, especially has been given. when Bangalore has many Central Govern- 247 General Bmiget, 1985-86 MARCH 25,1985 General Budget, 1985^86 24ii ment industries and defence establish- ments. SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT I oppose the levies suggested by the (Kannauj) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise Finance Minister. But I do welcome the to support the Government’s Budget for one or two social security measures and 1985-86. The first Budget of the Govern- the introduction of the crop insurance and ment deserves congratulations and acclaim as it promises to give a new direction to abolition of CDS. ' * the financial resources of our country to face the requirements of a modern India SHRl HAFIZ MOHD. SIDDIQ moving to meet the challenges of the 21st (Moradabad) ; Mr. Chairman, Sir, I century. There is, as has been erroneously am obliged to you for giving me an oppor- purported by some hon. Members in the tunity to speak, on the Budget presented Opposition, no break from the past; nor a by Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh. The deviation from our country’s commitment proposals included in the Budget are to bring development with social justice to important for our country. Similarly, all. the concessions given to industrialists would accelcrate the pase of progrees and The comprehensive scheme of crop solve the problem of unemployment. insurance is a major measure of security Along with this, it has encouraged our and incentive to the farmer for greater taxpayers to reveal their income correctly investment and consequently more produc- in their returns. I congratulate the tion. It is a luadatory and a welcome Finance Minister for presenting a good scheme. I would, however, whenever the Budget. All sections of our society will be Government announces the details of the benefited by it. There are many industrial crop insurance scheme, plead for its units manufacturing utensils in Moradabad. extension to ihe growers of potatoes and These utensils are exported. As compared onions as I would plead for the extension to 1980, the export has gone down. I of effective price support operations by the would request the hon. Minister to for- Goverment to the potato and onion grow- mulate an export policy which may pro- ing farmers. mote the utensil industry and check unemployment among artisans and crafts- The resolve of the Government to man. Until means of transport are restore donations by companies to political available, no industry can flourish. There parties is a step in the right direction. It is no train to Allahabad, Bombay and not only recognises the responsibility of Agra from Moradabad and, therefore, we industry towards the political process, but have to face a lot of diiliculty in the also goes a step ahead to further the export of utensils. commitment made by the Prime Minister to cleanse public life. • As far as this Budget is concerocd» there Reduction in the rates of income-tax, are no two opinions that it has given us a including reduction in the rate of corporate •' new direction. It seems that we would be taxation, the withdr.twal of the dreaded able to remove unemployment. The funds C.D.S., the enhancement of the rate of allocated for IS REP are too inadequate. gratuity and increase in pensions will Similarly, the amount allocated for the bring much needed relief and confidence to weaker sections is also meagre. The Prime that section of the people, who had come Minister, Shri Rajiv Qandhi, deserves to beheve that they alone were being congratulations for saying a word of singled out for taxation. It is also a step encouragement to the poor and the back- that would encourage and induce vage ward people in Ahmedabad. Hon. earners to pay taxes and contribute thcit Members are aware that the situation had mite willingly to the task of funding the deteriorated there. I would lik that steps nation’s growth. should be taken to prevent ^communal classes. I congratulate the hon. Finance In indirect taxation, however, we must Minister and with these, wofds conclude. strive towards a system of progi-essive 249 General Budget, 1985-86 LCHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) General Budget, 1985^86 250 levels and discrimination in favour of policy which reduces taxes and yet ensures essential comm:,dities and manufactures better tax compliance resulting in higher constituting the predominant spending of revenue for the Government. the economically weaker sections of Some critics have said that the high society. deficit in the Budget will lead to inflation. Inifoduction of the social security 1 do not agree with this argument. If one » scheme covering risk of death by accidents really cares to study the recent behaviour of landless farmers, craftsmen and other if the industrial and even agricultural unorganised labour is commendable and growth, it will be seen that the growth has welcome. been affected by the shortage of demand. In other words, the demand was not increa- The Finance Minister also deserves sing as fast as production could be raised. congratulations on the proposed legislation In the type of situation, pumping more to ensure payment of legitimate workers’ money in the economy is more likely to will dues at par with secured creditors in the rather serve as a tonic to the growth that event of closure of a company. as a stimulus to pric^ increase. However, The proposal to raise the present rate I concede that sometimes one has to accept of Rs. 25^000 to Rs. 50,000 as loan to the hard facts of life. This Budget too educated unemployed is realistic and will may not be totally free from such hard- ensure better utilisation of sanctions. decisions taken. We have to understand and accept such measures them if any as Energy and power are of critical impor- necessary evils. They are much more tance. On generation of power depends necessary and less of an evil than many both out industrial and agricultural growth. of my hon. friends sitting on the This is beyond dispute. Generation of otherside generally tend to believe so as a power has increased by nearly 50% in the matter of habit. 6th Plan Period. During April-December, Mr. Chairman, Sir I do not want to 1984, it increased by over 13% over the waste m.y limited time in going on these corresponding period in 1983. But it may beaten tracks. Let me give some concrete be noted that even this impressive growth suggestions on this Budget, so far as it is not adequate to meet the acute actual relates to the fate of the poorest of the poor* shortage which still persists. Existing the downtrodden and the under-feds of capacities should be utilised efficiently and our country. To me, the nation marching to the fullest extent* Greater encourage- towards progress is like running or relay- ment and iiscal inducements could be given race in which everybody, weak or strong, to the private entrepreneurs to invest in has a role to play. As the chain is as this vital sector. strong as its weakest link, so is the nations ' It is with great pleasure that we note economy. It is, therefore, very necessary, that during the 6th Plan, 2 lakh problem to remove regional imbalances in order to villages were covered under the accelerated have healthy growth of national economy. Rural Water Supply Programme. I would For that purpose, I may give my own like to congratulate the Government on constituency Mizoram as an examnle, not this ochicvement. I am using this occasion because that I am concerned only with my to plead with t lie hon. Finance Minister constituency alone but because Mizoram that we must make a commitment and has a number of difficulties, similar to the pledge to provide all villages with hygienic other backward areas of our country. Now, drinking water at the very earliest and in the case of Mizoram, it was only in with the topmost priority. 1972, that for the first time, the Fifth Five Year Plan was introduced in a meaningful SHRI LAL DUHOMA (Mizoram) : Mr. manner. Since independence all the other Chairman, I rise to support a commend- States of the country have been marching ably pragmatic Budget any exercise which towards progress along with the introduc- is sure to stimulate growth, improve tion of the Five Year Plan. What I efficiency and provide relief where needed mean to say here is that the Fifth Five and inviograte the economy as Year Plan for the rest of the country before. It iis a sound fiscaV bappcned to b© oniy tho ftrat Five Yew 251 General Budget, 1985-B6 ' MARCH 25, 1985 Generai Budget, 1985-86 252 Plan in the case of Mizoram. the people there in those dark days. I am happy to sec many measures introduced in We are now approaching the Seventh this Budget whicn will win over the hearts Plan which is going to be only the third of the people. The first thing necessary is Plan in the case of Mizoram. What I to put and end to the shifting cultivation, would like to point out is that there are that is the traditional method of cultivation some areas and regions in our country which is most destructive and unproductive. which are late starters, lagging and stagge- It is very harmful for the ecological ring along behind the rest of the country, balance, environment and wild life, etc. To where we have not made any meaningful slop the shifting cultivation, we have to asset or any infrastructure or any financial commercialise the cash crops and forest institution. produce. There is a Peculiar problem faced by 1 suggest that the crop insurance scheme Mizoram. That is fortunately or unfor- may also be extended to cash crops like tunately, the literacy percentage is very ginger, potato, etc. Social service scheme. high there. It is the second highest in the Market Intervention Operation and the country. But, at the same time, we cannot price support schemes are going to be provide any means of livelihood to our answes to these problem provided by this educated young people. Henc« they get Budget. To sell those items in Calcutta agitated and frustrated to the extent of market, opening of the closed Railway saying, “We are not Indians” . That is why service from Calcutta through Bangla- they have demanded complete independence. desh may be taken up with the Bangladesh In a situation where insurgency is there, Government. the Government has to iaVe a firm action The assistance for animal husbandry, which is bound to be followed by various IRDP and NREP may be given in some suflferings. cases in cash because, for txample, the May I tell you, from my own experience, cows given to the beneficiaries are not that one fine morning myself, along with suitable to the local conditions in the Hills. all the villagers were driven out of the They used to die very soon. If it is given is village by the army like a flock of cattle cash, they can purchase the cows of their driven towards a Grouping Centre due to own choice. When it is given in kind, the security reasons only. This happened to contractor manipulates and tries to take about 411 villages in Mizoram during his own share, thereby reducing the real 1966-70. We left all our belongings and value of assistance actually given to the everything in the villages which were burnt beneficiaries. to ashes by the Army. The world does not Regarding water supply and sanitation, know it. The hon. members of this House I want to mention that one bucket of water do not know the depth of the wounds is sold at Rs. 3 at Aizwal in Mizoram. inflicted on the innocent people there. The The water scarcity is very acute and Tribal traditional Ceremony was, thus, chronic. Hence the World Health Organi- made upside down. sation and the UNICEF assisted pro- gramme may kindly be exlended therefor I am happy to point out that this which we have Rs. 300 crores in the Budget is going to serve two purposes. Budget. One is healing the wounds of the people to bring them into the mainstream the Regarding civil aviation, we used to national life and the other is economic have Vayudoot service direct from Calcutta progress as such. There are many untold to Mizoram which was cheaper and shorter sufferings there which 1 have no time to than flying via Silchar. The service has narrate. been discontinued for several months now due to the ground repair. I would request What is more relevenl now is what we the Government that there should not be are going to do for the people who have been any delay in starting the service due to beaten up and even killed, I do not use paucity of funds since Rs. 59.96 crores are the legal word murder because they were being earmarked for this purpose. Besides hardly murdered, not amounting to even a one full-fledged airport may kindly be con- culpable homicide. This was the fate of structed in Mizoram as soon as possible. 253 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4,1907 (SAKA) Cereral Budget, 1985-96 254 {Translation} What concessions have been given to the workers ? It is correct that the limit of DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay salary for the payment of bonus has been South Central) : Mr. Chairman increased from Rs. 750 to Rs. 1600. Even Sir, 1 have been given very little time. On the organised workers are not benefited by seeing the entire Budget, it seems that the the Bonus Act becanse the mill-owners do concessions given to industrialists and not show any allocable surplus as the capitalists far exceed those given during money is shown to have been used the last thirty years of Pt. Nehru and Mrs. against depreciation fund or as Indira Gandhi’s rule. The new Congress investment allowance and other expenses Government want to run the economy on in mill-owners account. The workers are new lines. subtly rut off on the above pleas. Workers in some cities shali, of course, benefit but Much concession has been given in Central Government is not implementing income-tax. Accordir.g to MRTP, if the the Wage Board award and other schemcs capital investment increases from Rs. 20 for workers and only talk of pension crores to Rs. 100 crores, the employers scheme as also of the Railway employees. i^nd the big industrialists enjoy more con- cessions. The Estate Duty has been You have made a provision of paying abolished. The Government should ensure Rs. 3,000 as compensation in the event of that the concessions allowed to the indus- an accident. 1 would like to submit that trialists and the employers do not only there is more propagenda on the radio, benefit them but also benefit the poor, the television etc. regarding the concessions to needy and the unemployed. I would like be given to the warkers. The number of to know whether the concessions given in anorganised labour in our country is more. the present Budget would benefit the poor Half of the workers are temporary. There and the unemployed. is casual labour and contract labour and there are eight or nine per cent agricul- Alongwith this, I would like to draw tural labourers. There are people living your attention to the sick textile mills and below the poverty line. Yeu are doing other sick mills. The number of sick mills nothing for them. Today, there is much is increasing. Do the Government have profit in tea, coffee and sugarcane. What any control over tnese mills where public are the steps proposed to be taken by funds have been invested ? Did you take Government in this regard ? You have given any remedial action to reduce the number some concessions to the organised labour. of these sick units ? The textile mills in Bombay, Gujarat, Kanpur, and Delhi have You are promoting agriculture in the closed down and about 3 lakh workers country. You give concessions to the have been rendered unemployed and Shri agriculturis|^, provide seeds, fertilizers and Rajiv Gandhi had given assurance to them analise other inpute. Maximum amount during the elections. Assurance was given from the national exchequer is being spent during Presidents’ rule also and the same on the agriculture. Although about forty is reflected in this Budget, /.c.. the Govern- years have elapsed, yet it has not been ment would soon announce a new textile examined whether tax should be levied on policy. You are giving concessions to the agricuitural income or not. For example, power-loom and hand-loom industry. We in Maharashtra, sugarcane worth Rs. 1,200 have never protested against it. You are crores is sold. Government may exempt going to put an end the textile industry, the small farmers but should levy income- but have you ever thought of the workers tax on these big farmers earning lakhs of engaged there ? You talk of rural employ- rupees of profit from coffee, tea and ment and try to make political capital out sugarcane. You want that the production of it but what have you thought about should increase. But what immediate these workers ? If the Government do not relief is being provided in the Budget for take a decision on the textile policy soon 44 p>er cent people of this country living and undo the injustice being meled out to below the poverty line ? The prices will these three lakh workers, it would further naturally increase when the taxes go up. increase resentment and discontentment You have increased the import on petroleum ^ o n g the workers. products by 15 per cent and import on 255 General Budget, 1985-86 MARC3125, 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 256 other items also has been increased, People {English] having average income will have to pay the increased trice now. What immediate SHRI SHANTARAM POTDUKHE steps do Government propose to take to (Chandrapur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I solve this problem ? congratulate the hen. Finance Minister for his bold, imaginative and dynamic Budget. You are encouraging big industrialists. He has very rightly remem.bered late Shri- These big industrialists and capitalists are mati Indira Gandhi while presenting this miserly people. They would not like to Budget. He has said : part with a single paisa. They will not pay anything either to the Government or “No section of our vast and diverse to the workers. You may be going in for population should feel forgotten. Their free economy. Yon will find in the indus- neglect is our collective loss.” trial estate of Faridabad that there are 75 This is how he has remembered Shrimati per cent contract labourers. These conces- Indira Gandhi while presenting this Budget. sions ultimately would be usurped by the capitalists. The Sixth Five Year Plan is I congratulate the hon. Finance Minister coming to a close. According to the Plan- specially for laying more stress on family ning Commission report out of the target planning. The annual addition to our fixed for providing employment in the population is 15 million people and that Sixth Five Year Plan, employment for requires us to have 1.4 miilion tonnes of 3.10 crores only has been provided. Unem- foodgrains- This is equal to starting 7,900 ployment is increasing on the whole. This new houses per day and 40 new schools fact has been mentioned in the Palkhiwala per day. So, this is the great task which report and in your report as well. The our Finance Minister is having before him. Seventh Five Year Plan in going to start 1 really want to congratulate the Finance and the problem of 5 crore unemployed Minister for this outlay for environment of youth is before you. What steps are you Rs. 36 crores. The environment aspcct going to take to solve their unemployment had been neglected earlier. He has kept problems. You are providing funds to the Rs, 10 crores for prevention of pollution industrialists for introducing automation of the Ganga river, but what are you going to do in regard to the increasing unemployment ? In the 20-point Programme, there is much stress on afforestation. The recent I will conclude after saying a few words Lok Sabha election have given a big about the employees. You have raised the mandate, a big majority, to Shri Rajiv income-tax limit from Rs. 15,000 to 18,000. Gandhi. About gains in planning, Shri- You had given many assuran«es hut they mati Indira Gandhi had said that our have remained unfulfilled. The previous gains in planning should not result in limit of Rs. 15,000 actually comes to Rs. losses in our enviroDment. The olher day 20,700 due to increase in prices. So this in this House many Members have said concession is meaningless. If you raise that a lot of our forests are being this limit to Rs. 25,000, only then destroyed, the percentage of forests is some benefit may accure to the decreasing. employees. Therefore, much stress is to be laid on afforestation. I must point out about two Keeping in view the rising political multi'State projects going on. One is the stature of Shri Sharad Pawar in Mahara- Jnchampalli project between Andhra Pra- shtra, the Prime Minister Shri Rajiv desh, Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra, Gandhi had told the farmers that remune- The second one is the Bhopalpatnam rative Prices would be fixed for agricultural project between, Madhya Pradesh and produce but the Budget does not reflect Maharashtra. A lot of forest land is com- anything to this effect. Similarly, nothing ing under projects, Around 1 lakh of has been done in this Budget for the poor. tribal people are being affected and look- Government should do something for them ing to the loss of forest covcr it now needs i9Pi ^hat it should be given a rethinking becau^ 257 General Budget, /9SS^86 CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) General Budget, 1985-86 258 the environmental aspects should be given 22 States in this country. The budgets of due consideration. all the 9 Union Territories are made directly by the Central Government. The I congratulate the Finance Minister for Central Government finances us directly. abolishing the licence fee on TV and radio. To-day a territory like Goa, Daman and TV and radio are means of education and Diu is financially sound and it can stand they are a means of mass communication. on its own feet because of the budgetary They educate and entertain and now TV assistance given by the Central Govern- and radio are no more luxuries and they ment for the last so many years. Now the have become essential for middle class time has come that this Union Territory people. of Goa, Daman and Diu can be granted ' In this budget relief for the common the status of a full-fledged Statehood. I man has been given. In regard to income would like this to be considered, because tax 40 lakhs tax-payers have been given a if our territory is financially sound and it great relief. As Madam Gandhi has said can stand on its own feet, then the and which has been quoted by our Fin- Central Government can consider whether ance Minister in his speech we have got we can be granted statehood or not; other- faith in new India and the new India shall wise the status of a Union Territory is march ahead. That is the message of this very pitiable. 1 might say that just now, a budget and I support the budget. shortwhile ago the Minister for Home Affairs introduced a Bill to amend the SHRl SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji) : Union Territories Act. * Now it is a settled thing that this Budget is a budget which no sale man can criticise. A few days back we had introduced Earlier I have seen that cricitism used to here a Bill on anti-defection and this law come from several quarters but there never which has amended the constitution of used to be any constructive criticism. For this country does not apply to our tcrri-- instance, now when the petrol prices have tory because we are ruled by the Union been raised, no Member of the Opposition Territories Act, 1969 whereas you are all Parties has said how this gap can be filed. governed by constitution. We would also If they have suggested any particular made like to be governed by the constitution of by which this gap of hundreds of crores India in Slate. Therefore, I would request can be filled, then it can be said that there the Government of India that a chapter be is a proper and constructive criticism. But added in the constitution for the purpose this was not done and on any asp^t has of Union territories also. there been any constnictive criticism. Further, if the Council of Ministers in To-day Palkhiwala has come out with a Union territory makes recommendation a clear-cut statement that this is a good to the Administrator, namely, Lt. budget. Not that the past budgets were Governor it is not binding on him to bad budgets. But, then with due respect accept it. He can reject it whereas the to Mr Palkhiwala, often Mr Palkhiwala advice by the Council of Ministers in a used to oppose the budget for opposition State is binding on the Governor. sake. Because for the last 30-35 years the I would also like to submit that a place country has been progressing and every should not only be developed materially year Palkhiwala has been saying that the but also developed culturally. When Goa budget is a bad one and it is inflationary became liberated the Constitution of India and all that. But we have been seeing that was already there. We were taken into its the country is progressing. TTnen how is it ? fold and rightly so but our language— That means that he has been proved wrong. Konkani— has not been put in the Eighteth Otherwise the country could not have Schedule. This should be done. progressed so much. Lastly, we have a TV centre at Goa With respect to my territory of Goa, with 10 KW capacity, However, only 1 KW Daman and Diu, I would like to take capacity is used as the tower is not of some suggestions and I would request the sufficient height. I would request that Finance Minister to take note of certain since Goa is a centre of art and culture, things. There are 9 Union Territories and ENG equipments be provided for it io 2^9 General Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25,1985 Geneval Budget^ 1985-86 260 produce small TV prograimmcs. fact that a sum of Rs. 130 crores, has been invested in modernisation of machi- At the end I would say that the legal nery in these textile mills. It is inex- Bid work has been going on satisfactorily. plicable to me how the private sector However, I would suggest setting up of a textile mills arc running profitablly, while Directorate of Legal Aid to look after the the NTC mills are suffering recurring implementation of the legal aid pro- losses. This is primarily due to encapacity gramme, and inefficiency of those in charge of National Textile Corporation. The NTC [Translation] seems to have become a refuge for *SHRI P. SHANMUGAM(Pondicherry): inefficient officials. I want that radical Mr. ’ Chairman, Sir, I am grateful to you decisions should be taken to change the for giving me this opportunity to partici- entire administrative set up from top to pate in the Debate on General Budget for bottom in NTC. Then only we can exp^t 1985-86. I am happy to say that this NTC to deliver the goods. epoch-making Budget presented to this I have been elected from Pondicherry House under the leadership of young and Union Territory, In Pondicherry there is dynamic Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi only one big textile mill by name Anglo- has received universal support. Though this French Textile Mill. From June 1983 this is the maiden budget of the new Government, has remaind closed. 7500 workers are yet it has been acclaimed by the people of struggling between life and death. The our country. Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh, Pondicherry Administration does not have our Finance Minister deserves whole- money to take over this mill. It is the hearted commendation of the entire persistent demand of 7500 workers, their House for this unprecedented Budget, In 40,000 dependents and the people of 1983-84 the foodgrains production rose Pondicherry, that this Mill should be 151,5 million tonnes from 130 million nationalised by the Central Government tonnes in 1982-83. The power generation and then handed over to NTC. For the increased from 7.6% to 13.5%. the coal past 20 months the economy of Pondi- production went up by 6.9%. The spiralling chcrry has been in shambles. The other inflation has been controlled. The export day in reply to a parliamentary question, earnings rose by 23%. In 1984 our Govern- the hon. Minister of Finance and Commerce ment did not avail of the balance loan Stated that an inquiry has been instituted from IMF because the resources positions to find out the feasibility of nationalising proved to be sound. The countries which this Mill. 1 want that this inquary should feel jealous about the stable Indian economy be expedited and immediately after getting are instigating communal violence within the report the mill must be re-opened. The the country and are also supporting the hon. Minister of Finance should rescue neighbouring countries like Sri 7500 workers and their dependents from Lanka in their anti-Indian activities. You the clutches of death. know. Sir, how the Tamils of Sri Lanka are being subjected to all kinds of atroci- I am compellad to say here that even ties. Our Opposition Parties, like the the NTC Mills in South, which were jaundiced man whosees everything yellow, making profit, have started incurring arc prone to oppose everything done by losses. This aspect has also to be gone in^ the Government. Unless they behave reason- to by the Hon. Minister of Finance. ably, and responsibility, democracy will Adequte steps must be taken to make NTC not lake deep roots in the country. a profitable institution. In the textile industry, there are 125 Pondicherry is the capital of Union sick units. They have been incurring losses Territory having Central Government year after year. According to the statistics offices, natlonlised banks, industries, furnished to the House by the Minister of JIPMER, the premier medical research State for Commerce, the loss of NTC is of institute in Asia, the internationally renow- the order of Rs. 590 crores, inspite of the ed Aurobindo Ashram which is v isits "^The speech was originally delivered in Tamil, 261 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4, 1901 {SAKA) General Budget, 1985-86 262 'by thousands of devotees from all parts of Secondly, equal treatment has been given the world. There are thousands of retired to plaiincd and non-planned expenditure. Array Personnel of French Army, receiving In this Budget, encouragement has been fabulous pension amounts. This has con- given to the Private Sector also. tributed to continuous rise in prices of essential commodities. There is acute The most important aspect of this shortage of housing and the rents are very Budget is that the Finance Minister has high. This has affected the living condi- implemented the assurance of abolishing tions of the employees of Pondicherry the compulsory Deposit Scheme and Estate Administration. They have been demand- Duty embodied in the election manifesto ing for long that Pondicherry be made in- of the Congress. Similarly Government have to B-2 city, which will enable them to get embarked upon inplementing other assur- higher rent allowance. I want the Hon. ance given in the Congress manifesto. Finance Minister to look into this and do This Budget provides relief to every the needful. Similarly, Kuraikkal, Mahc, section of the socicty. Many hon. Enam should be given C status so that Members including Shriraati Vyjayanthi- employees get higher benefits. Two years mala observed that this Budget would go the former Minister of Civil Aviation eradicate provcrty and also benefit the rich. laid the foundation-stone for Pondicherry The middle-income group people as well as Airport. Since then the people have been the pensioners will also be benefited. For expecting that the lAC will start a service the first time, incentives have been given between Pondichcrry and Madras. Unfor- to the industrialists. Now, they have to tunately, after the lying of foundation-stone prove how far they can develop the no work has been started so far. At least industries benefiting the country at large. in the 7th, Five Year Plan, Pondichcrry By giving encouragement to industries we Airport should be completed and Pondi- shall be able to rcduce inflation. cherry should be linked by air with Madras and other metropolitan cities. Recently, In this Budget, new taxes to the tune the democratically elected Ministry has of Rs. 141 crores have been levied and a taken office in Pondicherry. I take this deficit of Rs. 3,349 crores has been shown. opportunity to demand that the elected Dcficii financing is not always undesireable- representatives of Pondicherry Assembly In some cases deficit financing culminates should be enabled to vote in the Presiden- in stabilising the prices and containing the tial election. Presently they have not got infiation. I am sure this Budget will prove this right. All the Union Territories should helpful in containing the inflation. be brought under the ambit of our Cons- titution. With these words 1 conclude my The Seventh Five Year Plan wiil speech. commence from first April. I congratulate the Government on the achievments made SHFJMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA in the Sixth Five Year Plan. Our economy (Motihari) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I has become strong due to our remarkable welcome the Budget for 1985-86 presented success in agriculture. This has provided by our dynamic Finance Minister and us with the requisite infrastructure for thank him for presenting such a good economic development and this will be budget. conducive to further strcnghtcning our ^onomic condition during the Sevoth Five The Finance Minister has given a new Year Plan period. direction to the Budget. This is an unpre- cedented and revolutionary Budget and Welcoming many commendable will accelerate the pace of development in features of the Budget, I would like to the country. Through this Budget, the urge upon the hon. Minister that the country has been put on the path of import on kerosene oil, which is used by progress. the poor, should not be enhanced. It should rather be reduced. I feel that for the first time the Central Government, instead of merely taking I would also like to submit that a high recourse to statistics, have given special powered television centre should be set up attention in the Budget to development. in Patna, the capital of Bihar« 263 General Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 2^. 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 264 SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA is also reduced to half. Electricity is tTonk) : 1 am thankfui to the hon. available some time for five to six hours Finance Minister for presenting such a and sometime for eight hours. Today, the sound and balanced Budget. The Budget, farmer is not prepared to reconcile him- prepared under the guidance of our self to the fact that electricity is made young Prime Minister, will result in giving available to him only for jSve hours. He form and meaning to the hopes and advances the argument why when in the aspirations of the youth of the country cities electricity is available for 24 hours, and will strengthen their resolve to march it should not be made available for 24 ahead on the path of progress. hours in villages also. This needs more attention. Mr. Chairman, Sir, Budgets are presen- ted every year and we make some Mr. Chairman, Sir, many years have progress aiso. Our Finance Minister has passed since the country attained indepen- presented a balanced Budget making dence, but the proplem of drinking water provisions therein for every section of the has remained unsolved. So, attention society. An attempt has been made to should be paid towards it. provide relief to every scJ:tion of the society especially to the industrialists and In the end, I come to my Slate. The the Government employees who have been Rajasthan Canal, which has been rechris- provided with relief in income tax and io tened Indira Gandhi Canal, will be the many other taxes. Mr. Chairman, Sir, due longest Canal not in our State or country to paucity of time, 1 shall not go in detail but in the whole world. Its work should but draw your attention to some main be expedited. Similarly, work on the points only* Bisalpur Dam should also be com-pleted at the earliest. This will transform our The 20-Point Programme has changed district and drinking water will be made the face of the country. The condition of available to Ajmer. Irrigation facility will the villages has been transformed. The be made available to Sawai Madhopux, need of the hour is to pay still more Bundi, Tonk and other places and - attention towai ds this. We had promised cosequently 66,000 hectares of land will in the election that in the next budget be irrigated. more funds would be made availabe for rural reconstruction. Even today, the I welcome the Crop Insurance Scheme. condition of our village is not satisfactory. This should be made applicable to other Today, the people living in the villages crops also and then it will be more have lost their patience. They are no beneficial. However, this is a good longer prepared to wait any further for beginning. Sufficient amount of loan should electricity, water, road, school and hospital be provided to the poor. For example, if facilities. 1 urge upon the hon. Minister loan is to be provided for purchasing to examine all these problems on priority bullockcart, the amount of loan should be basis. When we go to villages, the people sufficient to enable a person to purchasi it. there confroRt us with the complaints that we ask votes from them but I have done. “ electricity is made available to the cities. You have allocated Rs. 2,000 crores for [English] electricity. This amount is not sufficient. _ Further allocation for it is required. In MR. CHAIRMAN : Will the hon. Rajasthan, the total electricity generated member kindly resume his seat 7 Nothing from all sources is 1,730 megawatts. Our will go on record, if he continues to speak. main source of electricity is K.A.P*P. of Kota. You have stated in Paragraph 45 DR. K, G. ADIYODJ (Calicut) : Res- of the Budget speach that efforts would pected Chairman, Sir, by presenting a be made to ' consolidate the gains Of the progressive budget, the new government past. In this context, you should look into has justified the trust that the people had the proplems of Kota Atomic Power Plant. reposed in it. It has aimed at making the When it closes down, our power capacity country’s economy strong, viable and of 265 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4, 1907 Ccneral Budget, 1985^86 266 sustained growth. This is a budget with by the World Bank as a model for social fundamental difference and departure as it development, is not in a position to invest has a perspective for growth during the more in productive activities. It is in the 'Whole Seventh Plan period, besides annual grip of a chronic deficit. This is largely "financial adjustments. because the Stale has been unable to go in for industrial development, with its huge ’ However, despite hopeful estimates, bills in respect of social sarvices. In our the economic targets may lag State, in each of the panchayats we are behind due to the lack of orientation having a high school. Secondary education among implementing officials and proper is free not only for girls, but also for boys. evaluation of goals and targets being There is a dispensary in each panchayat. achieved. For instance, a major share of the incomes of the business class and Regarding communications, we are agricultural land owners is not taxed due having roads everywhere, and Fucca to the absence of proper mechanism to bridges have been constructed. The public assess their incomes and collect the taxes. distribution system is in our State, Therefore, I feel that the present system compared to other States. Because we are of tax collection requires changes whereby much ahead of other States, we are tax evasion and suppression could be penalized. Unless there is a drastic chang curbed effectively and promptly. OflBcials in the terms of reference of the Finance should be specially trained, re-oriented and Commission,- as also of the Planning motivated for the job. The well-performing Commission, our country is not going to oflficials should be rewarded promptly, and achieve the target in respect of industrial the corrupt and incompetent should be investment. punished. In view of all these, I plead that Government should consider these two 14.00 hrs, aspect, especially in respect of the terms of reference of the Finance Commission. There is no need for increasing the There is no change effected in them during taxes or hiking the rates. A proper the last so many years. So, this has to be collection of present taxes could raise the taken into consideration. States should revenue much. The orientation of the new not be penalized. Budget in this direction is commendable. 1 am not taking too much time of the From our experience in Kerala, I would House. I am not pleading, for the time say that during my tenure as a humble being, for my constituency. I congratulate Finance Minister, I could mobilize three the Finance Minister, and I fully supporjt times the revenue from sales tax and agri- the Budget. culture tax, by streamlining the law and plugging the loopholes. In 1973-74, our [Translation] target was Rs. 40 crores from sales tax, but after a thorough study and without SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY ' making the rate higher, we mobilized Rs. (Gopalgaiy) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I 120 crores the same year. So, this^ is the support the Budget for the year 1985-86 proper time. The need of the hour is that presented by the hon. Finaacc Minister. we should plug all loopholes, and the old I support the Budget because a definite laws should be re-structured. Dedicated attempt has been made in it to uplift the officials could come to the forefront and poor. There is paucity of time, but I help the country move forward. would like to say that Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh has had a very good reputa- The Finance Minister has stressed the tion as Chief Minister of U.P. I belong to need for industrial growth and social Bihar but still I would say that U.P. has security schemes. The States which have a history of its own. Whosoever is in already made big achievements in social trouble goes to Varanasi to worship security schemes are not able to make ‘Vishwanath*. Here, I would like to sub- rapid progress in the industrial field. For mit a few points considering him to be instance, our own small but beautiful Vishwanath. Whereas he has abolished State of Kerala which has been hailed even T.V. licence, be has increased taxes un 267 General Budget^ 1985-86 MARCH 25. 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 268 gas, salt, kerosene oii etc. which are items fruitful. By now, we have seen in the of daily use particularly by the poor. In newspapers and also in various other books our country 55 per cent of the people live supporttor and attack against this budget in villages and these are the people who from various angles. I am sure, the hon. cannot raise their voice in respect of their Finance Minister, is not only taking notes demands and are too poor to iutiniate their of the speeches of the members but also difTiculties to you. Therefore, I request making a complete analysis of the various that certain concessions should be announ- aspects which have been highlighted, which ced on those items of daily use, at least have been explored by various people, by on bidi, salt, gas and kerosene oil. Our various economists and so on. Why has Prime Minister, during his visit to Bihar, such a debate started ? In my view, had declared that decline in production becausij of new approach. Whenever a new capacity usually resulted a burden on the approach is made, there would be various finances. You should see how production debates on that. If you look at it, you capacity can be increased. If you look at will find that the emphasis has been on Bihar, you will find that Rohtas Indus- economic management. Some names of tries. Hathua Suaar Industries and many our great leaders have be«n taken in vain factories in Champaran have been lying by the opposition alleging that the Finance closed. In this Budget no provision has Minister has given a go-by to the path of been made in respect of the closed mills socialism which was established by Gandhyi, of Bihar which ought to have been made. Nehruji and Indiraji. It is not correct. If Since you are an experienced person, my we analysis the entire budget and look at it submission is that you should make some we will find that the Finance Minister has provision in respect of the closed mills looked after the interest of the 700 million of Bihar. Along with it, you should also people. If we examine carefully we find allot some funds for constructing school that the whole budget, has been divided buildings for those schools wherein into various groups like the very poor, the children are studying in the open. poor, the low income group, middle income group and the richer section. In conclusion, I would submit three things—first, you should .make arrange- We have to look after the entire 700 ments to open all the closed mills in million and in doing so the attempt has Bihar; secondly, you should withdraw the been quite balanced. Jf we look at our enhanced imposts on items of daily use own household, I would say that our Uk? gas, salt, kerosene oil etc., and thirdly Finance Minister has behaved like a good you should set up some industries in mother. In the whole household there are Gopalganj, which c('nnects Nepal and various types of family members, of Western Champaran. With these words I various income groops, having various support this Budget. types of propensities of earning, some [English] doing business, some are without any education, some with better education, but SHRI A. K. PANJA (Calcutta North little eetning and so on. In my opinion East) : Mr. Chairman, I rise to support this budges, shall infuse savings, encourage the budget which has been presented to investment and increase the output. the Finance Minister. Since the presentation of the budget, you must have noticed that The Opposition attacked the Budget by this is the first time a thought-provoking saying that those who have got more, they budget has been presented in this House. have been allowed to keep their extra Discussion is not only going on in this money in their pockets. From savings House in the Lobby or in the Central Hall aspect in my opinion this Budget has given but all over India, Eminent and well- a new light so far as the Indian economy known economists and experts have started is concerned. It is also bound to generate deliberating on shis budget. employment in the long run. Who is going 14.08 hrs. to give employm.ent ? Arc we going to employ all those unfortunate unemployed [Shri Soranath Rathin the Chairl people only in Government undertakings I am sure that such deliberation will be or only in Government offices, whether in 2«9 General Budget, 1985^86 CHAITRA 4. 1907 (5'.4jP^) General Budget, 1985-86 270 the State or in the Centre ? They have to pensioners should get the benefit in my opinion. be employed in agricultural field or in the private sector. Therefore, private sector Mr. Gupta also forgot about crop has been encouraged so that there may be insurance. He did not say a single word a little bit of saving and with that they in favour of it. This is the first (Ime that will be bound to expand and generate it has been brought in. Like that 10 very employment. good things have been provided for in the budget. One thing; through you, I want to bring to the notice of the hon. Finance Minister Many opposition Members are talking for taking a special look at what is about inflation and saying that there will happening in West Bengal. As soon as the be a great danger. The financial net budget was presented by the Finance deficit is expected to be Rs. 3349 crores. Minister on the floor of this House, the Why do I say so ? Because our total Government there, the entire Government deficit is Rs. 3660 crores and if we rediic e machinery there, in inciting the people, it by Rs. 311 crores which the Government against the Central Government encourag- is going to get by way of additional levies, ing the black‘marketeers and hoarders and the net deficit ccmes to Rs. 3349 crores. giving them complete protection for the Last year, when the deficit was Rs. 3985 purpose of taking the goods out of the crores, the inflation was only 5 per cent. market for creating artificial shortage and This year, because of the steps taken, in unncccssarily escalating the prices. Even the long run, it is going to be a good the increase due to the Budget is small Budget. It is no use decorating someone goods are allowed to be taken out of the with ornaments as very rightly stated by market for hoarding and be sold at higher the young Finance Minister, but to see rates. Taxi-strike has been forced there, that the entire 700 million people of mini-bus strike has been forced and the various categories of income are 'taken petrol pumps have been closed. The State together and given good fcod and shelter. Government is not taking any action. In my opinion they are allowing the black With these words, I support the Budget. marketeers in such a manner as to blame the Central Government. 1 want a special SHRI B. K. GADHVl (Banaskantha) : team to be sent to West Bengal to find Since there is not much time left, I shall out the actual effect of the budget. There- bring to the notice of the Government two fore, a special experts’ team should go or three points. there. One is that whenever we look at the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Yes, yes. economic review— not only of this year but of any year and whenever there is a SHRI A. K. PANJA ; Mr. Indrajit reason given by the Finance Minister that Gupta while looking at this Budget, he the unbridgcd gap would not lead to analysed about 10 items and said that ‘It inflation, then it is sought lo be has been minimissed, it has been impressed that this would be possible minimised’ .... In our student days we when our agriculture would be in a good used to invite Shri Indrajit Gupta for a shape. This Budget has been received reasoned argument. Shri Indrajit Gupta well by some sections. But with regard to in his speech here has wrongly analysed agriculture, I would say that it has really and after mentioning saying “shortfall” of put a heavy burden on the farmers because one, two, three, four items, did not of the price like in petroleum products. mention anything about social security Farmers are now using modern techniques. measures, or other beneficial measures. They are running tractors, diesel pumpsets, Mr. Indrajit Gupta is representing a party etc. So far as electricity is concerned, it which claims to be a very good loud- is the cheapest mode of energy to the speaker of the worker, did not even farmers besides canal irrigation. Now, it mention about the workers’s security is high time that we look to the farmers* granted if there is a closure. 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R. D. P., such entrepreneurs to enter new business E. R. R. P., N. R. E. P., Draught-prone and no fresh graduate etc. should be Area Programme, R. L. E. G. P., Schedu- encouraged or helped bo Government or led Caste Component Plan, Tribal Sub- finacial institutions to enter business. This Plan, etc. What I have studied is that all policy will create great avenues of employ- these schemes are not being implemented ment for more people and more new fami- in their letter and spirit. The subsidy lies also have a change to enter Govern- portion of the loan amount given by ment service. The fresh graduates, who are Government to poor beneficiaries, actually helped by Government financially, have no goes to bank people, bureaucrats and capital of their own, nor experience, and middlemen. Besides, the loan amount much of the loan amount is spent on given to beneficiaries under these schemes pleasing or entertaining officers, while is also not being utilised properly setting up new projects or industries. The by the beneficiaries and is being spent on result is that they also develop bad habits marriages, birth or death ceremonies, of drinking etc. This will also check infla- house construction, etc, without any tion. return. In conclusion, I thank our dynamic young Prime Minister and the Minister of In fact, this amount of loan is being Finance for the steps taken to unearth utilized as consumption loan. As such, I black money and I hope more vigorous suggest that provision should be made to steps would be taken to unearth black give consumption loans to the individuals money. by the banks, because now almost all the . private money-landing business has been MR, CHAIRMAN : Shrimati Phulrenu abolished. The subsidy portion of the loan Guha. Shrimati Phulrenu Guha (Contai) should not be given and in its place interest Sir, I rise to support the budget. free loan should be given for some years, so that the benficiary may repay the hundred [Translatiort] per cent loan amount. In fact, the interest should be borne by the Government. This SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV will check the pilferage of the loan amount (Mainpuri) : Mr, Chairman, Sir, I rise a and invation will also be kept in check. point of order, I w'ant to know the rules All the public sector undertakings should and regulations under which the Members be asked to curtail their expenditure by at are called upon to speak in the House least ten per cent. At present, these public ilnterruptions). On Saturday, I vas told scctor undertakings are maintaining their that 1 would be called upon to speak at own guest houses, fleet of hired cars, guest two or three clock but till now I have not houses on rent and they are spending lakhs been given a chance to speak. of rupees on their maintenance. The Deputation Allowance admissible to a {EnglisK\ Government employee when he is asked to MR. CHAIRMAN ; Kindly hear me. go to some other department should be Your name is there. You will be called in abolished altogether. This will result in due course, ‘ saving of crores of rupees annually. SHRIMATI PHULRENU GUHA : To check inflation, the salary of Govern- Sir, I congratulate the Finance Minister ment employees should be fixed in such a for his very bold budget. There are certain way that no employee gets less than Ra. issues which fall within the scope of the 1,000 and not more than Rs. 3,000 per budget discussion, which 1 would like to mensem. The service period of 30-33 deal with. I welcome the change of years of Government employees should be nomenclature of the Ministery as Social curtailed to only 20 years and after retire- and Women’s Welfare. In this connection, ment the employees should be given advance I would like to remind the House that pension for ten years. This will help though in the Sixth Plan quite a good them to inves t their earnings and pension amount of money was allotted for the (imount in future business or investment. development of women, as far as w© know, 275 General Budget, 1955-55 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget^ 1985-86 276 tfaere^is no report and so nothing could be Duty should be imposed on the people known as to how that money was spent who come within a certain backet of and how many women were benefited by income-taxation in our country. it. So, I would request the Government to have a. cell in the Planning Commission There arc so many other points ot\ to monitor the progress in regard to the which I wanted to speak, but because allotment of money. of the paucity of tirpe I will restrain myself to only this much by But I regret to say that in saying that I support the Budget whole- the border areas racketeering in heartedly. wonen is very much rampant and is on the increase. We all know that PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : 'if the Government is aware of this menace there is taxation on the length of the and is trying to take possible measures to speech, you will have to pay no tax. stop this. But, I would requst the vigorous effective and early steps should be taken {Translation] to stop this menace, especially SHRT BALRAM SINGH YADAV : the menace of racketeering in Mr. Chairman, Sir, I thank you for giving women. The crime against women are me an opportunity to speak on the Budget on the increase in the country. The proce- for 1985-86 presented by the hon. Finance dure of getting justice should be simplified Minister. and culprits should be given deterrent punishment. If required, the existing laws Sir, I think by and large this Budget should be revised. has been welcome by every section of the society in the country. I thank the hon. I welcome the social security scheme. Finance Minister for presenting such a 1 know the opposition will say that is too Budget. The hon. Finance Minister has meagre a measure. But they should note provided many concessions which are that if something is started, it can be being hailed everywhere. Today, there is expanded also. So I welcome this schemc to strengthen the economy of the country. whole-heartedly. In this connection, I It appears from this Budget that in future would request the Government of India the economy of our country will definitely and the Government of West Bengal to be strengthcd under the leadership of Hon. include Midnapur as one among those Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi. first districts in the scheme. Perhaps you will remember that Tamluk subdivision of Since independence, our country has Midnapur was the place where first pro- made much progress in the matter of vincial Government was established in industrialisation and today also if we are 1942. So, I would request that Midnapur to eradicate poverty and unemployment, should be included in this scheme. For we shall have to encourage the setting up the development of the area 1 would of industries. V/e want to thank the hon. request that from Tamluk and Bigha Financc Minister for giving many conces- railways should be started. Digha sions to the industries and we hope that is one of the sea-coasis in West Bengal. with his policies, we .shall be able to It should be dev'eloped to become not only compete with the other countries of the an Indian sea-coast, but an international world which are marching towards rapid sea-coast also. industrialisation. Since kerosene is used by all, even by Sir, we have observed that if we do not the poorest of the poor, I would request supply power adeqately to the industries the Finance Minister to consider not to set up by us at different places, our dream consider not to increase its price at all. of industrialisation cannot be realised. Similarly I would request him not to Therefore, 1 request the hon. Finance increase the price of diesel also. Minister to talk to the State Governments and find out how difficulties regarding Lastly, I would like to point out that supply of power can be removed promptly the ^ ta te Duty should not be abolished so that the industrialisation of the country aUogether. I feel very strongly that Estate takes place swiftly. • 277 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4. 1907General Budget, 1985-86 278 India is predominantly an agricultural years if funds are not provided for their conntry. We should, therefore, look into maintenance. the problems relating to agriculture. Out Fjpance Minister had been the Chief Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 represent an area Minister of U,P, and the decisions he had which is a dacoit-infested. One-third of the taken in that capacity would always be total land there is barren. Hon. Shri remembered in the history of U.P. Today, Vishwanath Pratap Singh is well acquain- our Government deserve congratulations ted with the area. It is an area where one as they have fixed the support pricc of cannot have peaceful sleep. Murders, wheat at Rs, 157 per quintal. But, on the dacoitics are the order of the day there. other hand, we should ensure that the 1 would request the Government of India Crop Insurance Scheme announced at the to formulate a separate scheme for such time of the presentation of the Budget districts so that there is integrated develop- does not remain on paper only, because ment of these districts resulting in eradica- in many states crop insurance schemcs are tion of poverty and unemployment Setting already there but they are not being imple- up of big industries there should form mented proF>erly. Government should give part of the integrated development. wide and effective publicity to the Crop In the end, I support a very good and Insurance Scheme among thi masses so progressive Budget presented by the hon. that the people may come to know about Finance Minister, the details of crop insurance and how the farmers would be benefited by this scheme. *SHRI SRIHARI RAO (Rajamundry) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, this is a good budget. Oilseeds and pulses are consumed mainly It is a nice budget and it is an unpre- hy the poor, but the prices of these com- cedented budget. But, for whom ? Nor modities are skyrocketing. Therefore, only some people. Not to all people of Government should engage all the agricul- this country. It is good, it is nice and ture universities and agricultural scientists an unprecedented budget for only those to produce such type of seeds of these who earn money by exploiting the poor. commodities as may increase the produc- How about others who struggle hard to tion per hectare so that the prices come find both ends meet. This is not good down and there commodities become for all and certainly not for those who available to the poor at cheaper rates. are below the poverty line and who i constitute more than 55% of our total NREP and LREGP are revolutionary population. Sir. the basic needs of any schemes in our country for which we are man are food, shelter and cloth. It must thankful to the late Prime Minister Smt. be the ondcavour of any Finance Minis- Indira Gandhi. Taking personal interest, ter to see that these basic requirements she implemented these schemes in the of the man are provided to the poorest country. But at the moment I would like of the poor. One needs some food for to draw the attention of the hon. Finance his surval, some roof to get some protec- Minister towards this aspect that though tion and a picce of cloth to cover his LREGP scheme is a very good scheme and body. It seems that the hon. Finance the common man has welcomed it yet Minister has forgotten this basic and if the Government do not provide money simple fact. The Finance Minister has for the maintenance of the projects executed provided no relief at all to these unfor- under this scheme, crores of rupees being tunate broth ren of ours. These poor spent on it will go waste. The General people, Sir, have voted Congress Government should make provision for party to power expecting many things their maintenance also. The financial from that party. The gift that they position of the State Government is bad received from the hon. Finance Minister and they are unable to provide adequate for returning the party to power is that funds for maintenance. Whatever roads he rejected them in to. Never before or other projects you may construct, they the poor have been neglected so badly. will become useless within two to three But I want to tell the hon. Fiuance ♦The speech was originally delivered in Telugu. 27$* General Sueget, 1985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 General Buds^t, 1985-86' 280 Minister that the poor can also afford every reed to relex these lules. 1 request to forget the Congress party if the party the hon. Finance Minister to relax these forgets the poor. Forget they will, but rules immediately. This is very much only after teaching the party a good necessary. If concerned rules are relaxed, lesson. So please don’t underestimate the many more persons will come forward poor. ^ and invest their money in industries. It will boost our production. Nation becom« Sir, since the time at my disposal is rich. It will also solve the unemployment very short, I will make a few sugges- problem to a considerable extent. The tions. If implemented these suggestions wheels of progress will move on and pros- can turn the budget into one which is perity will down on the horison of our acceptable to one and all. country. Sir, the hike in diesal oil is unpardon- Sir, the suggestions that 1 have made able. If you increase one paisa here, by are quite reasonable. I hope the hon. the time it reaches the common man it Finance Minister will not hesitate to accept will become an increase of ten rupees. the suggestions I made and will make Everyone in the society will be hit by necessary changes in the budget. If these this hike. Hence the proposed hike on suggestions are incorporated io this budget, diesel, which is considerable should be it will really become a good, nice and withdrawn. unprecedented budget and will be accep- table to all. Thanlc you very much for The priccs of kerosene and cooking giving me this opportunity. .gas have also been increased. What a wonderful gift, presented to the women, SHRl RAMDEO RAI (Samastipur): for voting Congress party to power. Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 welcome the Budget The cooking gas costs 5 rupees more now presented by the Finance Minister for the per cylinder. The hon. Finance Minister year 1985-86 and would like to submit a should not harass a common housewife few points in this regard. and hence withdraw the hike. The Central Budget presents the picture Sir, the value of the rupees has been of our country before the people who ex- eroding very fast. Now its value is 6 pect the Government to ameliorate their times less than what it was some lot by removing the difficulties being faced time ago. For Gift tax, the exemption by them. The hon. Finance Minister has limit of Rs. 5000 is very inadequate. If a ' tried to meet their expectations. The hon. grand father wants to gift something valu- Finance Minister has taken a fresh initia- able to his grandson, how he do it with tives in the field of agriculture, education, the small amount of Rs. 5000. Unfortuna- industries and power. This Budget has tely it has not been taken note of all not only increased the possibility of fulfii- these years. Hence I suggest that the ing our hopes but has also boosted looks exemption limit to be raised at least to Rs. our morale. Consequent we shall be 30,000. able to achieve success in other fields also. I also suggest that the exemption for income tax be raised to Rs. 25,000. 1 would like to say one thing more. In the agricultural sector» shortage of power The industries which are involved in Is the main problem. Power supply in all production arc facing one serious problem the States of the country is dispro- now. As it is there are not many who are portionate to the demand. I would like to prepared to invest their money in indust* say about Bihar particularly. Power gene- ries. Their investment means increased ration there is not in keeping with the production and employment for many available capacity, as a result of which we jobless persons. But before investment the cannot meet our requirem.ents. You should new entrepreneurs are being harassed by the pay attention towards it because Bihar officials to disclose the source of their does not lag behind any other State in so capital and incoffte. No amount of expla- far as doing service into the country is nation seams to satbfy them. So there is concerned. If the Finance Minister does 281 General Budget, 1985-85 CHMTRA. 4, 1 ^7 (5^AT^) General Budget, J985.S6 m not pay attention to its difficulties, it will be repaired immediately. The Central naturally create resentment among tlie Government should provide financial people of Bihar and will dampen their assistance to the State ^Government for morale. The people of Bihar are ever this purpose. ready to work hand in band with full determination. Now, I would like to draw your atten- tion towards educational policy. The Bihar is industrially backward. I do not children of Central Government employees want to increase your difficulty by present- get good education in Central schools. ing a detailed picture of our industrial Along with this, the Government should backwardness before you, but I consider pay attention towards the education of chUd- it my duty to draw your attention to the ren of the people living in villages. We are problems being faced by the cAcimon going to formulate an educational policy people of Bihar. under which children of both the poor Thakur Paper Mills in Samastipur has and the rich will have uniform education. I been lying closed for years together. You would request speedy implementation of the are aware that Samastipur is situated in same. You must ensure that all children the northern part of Bihar to which to get uniform education in the schools in Satya Narain Babu and Lalit Babu be- accordance with this policy becaure you longed. In their absence, the development are determined to eradicate proverty from the country. of Samastipur has come to a standstill whether it be in the matter of railways or I congratulate the hon. Prime Minister industries. The people of Bihar, particu- who has been managing the affairs of larly Samastipur will always be ready to the country with great patience and cour- make their humble contribution in the age. Along with himi we are also deter bold stepts'proposed to be taken by our mined to put our shoulders on to the Prime Minister for taking the country wheel as the steps taken by him and the forward. sentiments expressed by him have in fused I would like to say something about confidence in us. Today we can say : irrigation facilities in our State. The Yug Yug ka tarn dur hua, Minister of Irrigation is not here at the Navprabkai vihansne wala hai moment. I would like to point out to the Einance Minister that many tube-wells Sadiyon ke pichhrepan ka with larger diameter have been dug by the Kala itihas badalne wala hai. Centre for layer-testing. They are lying With these words I congratulate the idea because attention was not paid in the Finance Minister on presenting the Bud- first instance to the correct diameter re- get which will radiate the homes and quired. If these tube-wells could be hearths, towns and villages and farms and handed over to the State Government, the barns. We are all ready to work hand-in- major problem of irrigation in Bihar can hand with you. be solved, otherwise these tube-wells will {English] be lying unused. SHRI G. S. GHOLAP (Thane) ; I am Our river water goes waste. If we uti- delivering my first speech in the House lise the river water, we shall be doubly today. The subject of my first speech benefited. An ordinary tube-well costs happened to be the budget of the year. I Rs. 2 lakhs. With this very amount, thank the hon. Members who are hearing people can get double benefit if irrigation my speech. are implemented by hafnessing these ' rivers. We can have better crop with the I support the Budget. use of river water as compafed to tube- Everybody has appreciation for the well water. There are five main rivers and Budget because concessions are given to some tributaries in Bihar, namely the Ganga, many and progressive steps have been the Gandak, the Kosi, the Vaya, the Balan taken for the development of the nation, the Bainti, etc. Their waters should be utilised for irrigation purposes. The tube- The Central Government has appointed wells lying out of order in Bihar should a Pay Commission with a view to increase 233 Gen ?ral Bi Igct, 1935^80 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget^ 1985-86 284 the salaries of the Central Government are staying in ‘Jhopadpatti’. What about employees. This has created a problem in water supply ? What roads? What about the States. The State Government emp- Railways ? All these problems have to be loyees also are now agitating and are now solved by the State Government, and it going on strikes demanding more salaries. is not possible for the State Government Is the Central Government going to give to solve all these problems. Bombay is some financial help to the State Govern- not a city of Maharashtra only; it is a city ments so that the State Governmenfs also of the whole nation. Therefore, Gan increase the salaries of their employees. the Central Government should help t he Is there any such relationship between the State Government by giving some grants Centre and the States ? or funds. Our Chief Minister has reques- As regards bonus, we are under the ted t|^t an amount of Rs. 1,000 crores be impression that bonus is given to the pro- provided for Bombay only. At least some ducers, those who produce more. It should amount should be provided. I request the be given to the workers in the factory. hon. Finance Minister to look into it. Now, the Central Government is also Regarding accidental death, some pro- giving bonus to the Government servants. vision is being made. We are already What the State Governments are to do in following the same system in Maharashtra, this regard towards their employees ? The in the case of accidental death, the person State Governments employees also going is entitred to get Rs. 2,000 Here an on strike demanding bonus. There is amonnt of Rs. 300 is being provided. going to be a dispute between the State It is good. It should not be ‘death by Governments and their employees regard- accident’ but it should be ‘accidental ing bonus. death*, and cases like snake-bite, lighting, I would, therefore, request the hon. electric shock, etc., where death occurs all Minister that this problem should be of a sudden should be covered and an solved through mutual consultations bet- amount of Rs. 3,000 should be given. ween the Centre and the States so that I think, that is the idea and Government there can be coordination between the will do that. Centre and the States, Regarding fishermen, they are required Regarding the development of the hill to pay sales-tax on the diesel that they areas which happen to be generally the use. But in the case of deep-sea fishing forest areas, we have passed on Act in were the vessels used are big, they are 1980 under which not a single inch of land exempted from payment of sales-tax on can be given for any purpose what- diesel. soever without the matter being referred to the Contral Government. Such an exemption is not given to small fishermen. This disparity should be re- It takes two or even three years for the moved, and the small fishermen also Central Government to clear the file. How should get the exemption. is it possible to develop a backward area or an adivasi area in such circumstances ? With these words, I support the Budget. They want land. So, I request that the power of giving land be delegated to the [Translation] State Cabinet or the State Chief Minister SHRI RAM RATAN RAM (Hajipur) : io that the Chief Minister can give the Mr. Chairman, Sir, I wholeheartedly land on condition that they will provide welcome the Budget presented by the the money from out of their project to Finance Minister for the year 1985-86. develop forests on other forest land. I While supporting the Budget, I would like request that the power of the Central to draw the attention of the hon. Finance Government to give land for public pur- Minister to some points. The Finance pose be delegated to the State Govern- Minister has made a provision for expan- ment. sion of power in the Central sector. The Bombay is a city where 80 lakhs of allocation therefor has been increased people are living. Out of these, 42 lakhs from Rs. 1,446 crores to Rs. 2,090 crores. 285 General Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4,1907 (S'^AT^) General Budget, J985^86 286 In so far as production of coal is concer- [English] ned, Bihar produces 60 per cent of coal in the country but as to the electrification in In the words of Henry George, “poverty the State, I am much pained to say that is the open mouthed relentless hell which barring Kahalgaon, a small village in yawns beneath civilised society. And it is hell enough.” Bhagalpur district, no effective step has been taken in the Central Sector for [Translation] electrification although the requisite facilities are available in Bihar. Electri- What is the recovery of direct and in fication should, therefore, be given top- direct taxes levied by you. I would like to priority because it has become a part and quota figures pertaining to 1971: parcel of life. Electricity has become a [English] basic need in every field whether it is small scale industries, large scale industries or The total amount was Rs. 4,658 crores agriculture. As Bihar produces 60 per cent and the amount recovered was only Rs. of coal, a thermal power station may be 537 crores. set up there in the Central Sector, parti- [Translation] cularly in the Chhota Nagpur area. In 1971-72 there was 88.47 per cent Under the 20-point programme the less recovery. provision of Rs. 4,141 crores has been in creased to Rs. 4,900 crores in the Central [English] plan, there has been an increase of For the following years the figures were: 18.3 per cent. Welfare activities will be 1972-73— 86.24 per cent, 1974-75— 88.24 undertaken particularly in rural areas. I per cent, 1975-76— 84.75 per cent, 1976-77 would like to thank the Finance Minister 86.94 per cent, 1977-78— 88.68 per ccnt, for this. Similarly, a social security Scheme and 1978-79-89.43 per cent. has been introduced for the benefit of poor p>eople killed in accidents. Such a step has [Translaiion] been taken for the first time. I welcome This is percentage of recovery not made this measure and congratulate him for by you and still you impose 89.43 per cent providing Rs. 3,000 to a poor person, who income-tax. Statistics clearly show that works throughout his life and is not insured you are not able to recover income-tax. for some reasons and is killed in an acci- You have challaned certain cases under dent. The hon. Minister also deserves COFEPOSA. 1 would like to know how congratulations for the decision taken in much property has been seized and how regard to imparting free education to girls many persons have been prosecuted. It is up to higher secondary level. I would also evident from the Government figures that like to congratulate the Finance Minister prosecution has not been completed for introducing Crop Insuranse Scheme against any one. which will benefit small farmers and marginal farmers. Most of the people in UEnglish] Bihar depend on agriculture. I would like Coming to administrative expenditure, to suggest that the increase made in the it has increased thrice to fourfold. Only prices of diesel and kerosene oil may be on overtime allowance, the expenditure, reduced so that people can get some was Rs. 49 crores in 1976-77, Rs. 56.21 relief. crores in 1977-78 and in 1978-79, was SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : Rs. 72,09 crores. Mr, Chairman, Sir, the hon. Finance [Translation] Minister has held consultations with the big economists and industrialists, Similarly, in the Budget for the year I would like to know whether he ever 1980-81, there was a provision of Rs= 72 held consultations with the poor people crores. You know very well how much reco- also ? I know that his answer would be in very of income-tax has been made by you. I the affirmative...... {Interruption) I would am referring to administrative expejiditure. like to say one thing. 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[English] It is very hard fact that we arc faced with and that is what I want to share with the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND hon. Members of this House. COMMERCE AND SUPPLY (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) ; Mr. Sir, it has been said that it is a risky Chairman, Sir. with my short expen.nce budget. Indeed, I have taken risks. I in the Finance Ministry, 1 feel that the could not have come to the Parliament Financc Minister is like a punch bag and with a riskless budget. For that budget on the first sight, perhaps, there is an would also have been a listless budget. We instinctive desire to give him a punch. were given the resource constraint, faced Well, to be punched is my professional with four options. habit to get a pat, evert from my friend, First is to cut plan size and thereby Mr. Indrajit Gupta is my exceptional risk development. luck. Well, whether it is a punch or pat, I will be grateful for both because at least Second is to administer stiffer dose of so far as they arc convinced that there taxation thereby leading to further tax is a substance for what I have presented to evasion and after a point it will lead to the House in the Budget. inflation itself. Sir, I am grateful to all the hon. Third is to go in for heavier borrowings Members, those who have complimented, running the risk of unserviceable debts in those who have criticised and by their the future. wisdom I have impressed. I also want to put on record the guidance I have received Fourth is that in the background of and the backing from the Prime Minister, ample foodgrain stocks and comfort tabic Shri Rajiv Gandhi, in formulating many foreign exchange reserve, to go in for a of the ideas in this Budget. Sir, I had the manageable deficit and carry out he needs occasion to witness the reaction of the hon. of tax reforms and also maintain the thrust Members sitting on the opposition ben- of development for projecting the plan. It ches earlier also. Usually it used to be, is the fourth option that we have taken. when the budget, came, that there is Certainly, anybody was at liberty to take nothing new in it. In this Budget, they any other alternative, but certainly that say that there is nothing old in it. My alternative would have meant cutting of difficulty is that my friends sitting on the the Plan or a stiffer does of taxation. Opposition benches are never in the Within these parameters, I do not think present. I have heard v^^ith rapt attention there can be a practical solution. Some the speeches, their logic is good, their risk has to be taken and that is what wc rhetoric is even better. There is only one have done. It is not so much of the thing amiss, that is, their arithmetic. They deficit of the Plan, but I think, it is a little have a very simple prescription, that is, deficit in the understanding of the total ‘increase the plan size, decrease your situation and its complexities. imposts, be tardy' on borrowing and presto, your deficit will come down.’ I The Prime Minister had said that the know. Some of the hon. Members on the economic philosophy of the Government Opposite would spring up and say that would be embodied in the Budget, This ‘you have forgotten a very important is what we have precisely done. It is not ingredient*, as some of the hon. Members mere juggling of figures, it is an expression were pointing out, Mr. Daga was saying of faith, and every faith has its concomj- 291 Ceveral Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25,1985 General Budget, 1985-86 292 tant dangers and wc have braccd ourselves countries and having some consumer good to facc the dangers too. industries. The colonial regime was against installing of any heavy industries in the We do recognise that Budget is a very developing world or those which were important fiscal tool, and while it affects under it. That is why we were suffering the economy, the economy is more basic and it was a right direction and right push. than the Budget, and so wc addressed It was also necessary that we kept ourselves to the economy, to its growth multinationals out of the country. Because, and giving it an impetus compatible with had this gap been there of the heavy the national priorities we have in view. industry, not developed by our own strength, sooner or later, we would have A point has been made that there has succumbed to the pressure for the resources, been a departure from the past. True, we technology and the support. We have had a past and we should be proud of it. sagacity. But today, in this process, this It is in very difficult conditions that our also has happened. This protective regime ■ political leadership steered the country has created islands of high profits. Also, towards not only political independence, it has led to a protective market, where but also economic independence, and the cost inefficiencies did not hurt the industry perceptions are as valid today as they were very much and it could afford a high cost * ever. It was a response to a situation then in an inefficient regime also. as also after independence. We had ■ constraints of foreign exchange. There Now, it is time to take a second look were compulsions of development. We as to how we can correct this position. It could not overnight develop new markets, is not a question of a break from the past, ^ we could not overnight increase the exports but it is a question of response to the - of our traditional items. Foreign resource future, that is at stake. It is only in this ‘ flow was not on terms which we would light that wc have to assess what wc have have liked according to our national to do. And even at the present situation, priorities. We did decide at that moment we have to take stock again and see in for import substitution and rightly did so. what direction we have to go. There is For that we did have a protective regime, still the foreign exchange constraint. Sir, we very frankly so and it was right. And in know the developed countries are starving this protective regime, import substitution the developing countries of concessional became the symbol of our industrialisation flows now. Our ODA and IDA are being and our progress. It led to a demand-led stopped and they are pressing us more and growth of industry and what wc have as more towards commercial borrowings, an industrial infrastructure is due to the which is high cost money. The rate of oil foresight of our political leadership then. production which we are getting now is coming to the plateau, not being at that . As about the anxiety of having industry high rate. In the coming years, our main and basic industries in public sector, it was foreign exchange saving oil will not be able a correct strategy that we built the public fo keep the same mom.entum. IMF loans scctor and that is our concern even now. start falling due. In this context, we should . I must dispel all such doubts and 1 want see that from now this is what we are to quote Jawaharlal Nehru on this : going to the faced with. We should tighten “The basic strategy governing our belts and not go the way of some planning is to industrialise and that South American countries. Petroleum means the basic industries given the products are a heavy drain on our foreign . first place.” exchange and it is a bulk item of imports. It is for this sake that we have decided to There was a reason for developing basic give a single to the country that this form and heavy industries, and I am sure, Shri of energy, which we have to shift from, Tndrajit Gupta will agree with me, it was which we have to conserve should not be , a correct strategy. Firstly, because it re- wasted. We should not be wasteful about structures the colonial structure of the it. The imposts on crude oil should be economy, where it was basically geared to seen in that light. 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While we take out the has been said that it is all to the white dement of competition, build the struc- collared people, about this tax exemption ture of licensing permits, we take away limit that has been given; that it is for the that element of competition which finally better people. Mr. Datta Samant said it— works against lower priccs for the 1 do not know whether he is here or common man. not. SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN : So AN HON. MEMBER : He is here. what you were doing all these years was wrong. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH : He said that it has all gone to SINGH : It was not wrong, in that con- w'hite-collared people and at the same text, We have to take a look at it now. time he recommended that . . . SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Licence- DR. DATTA SAMANT : You are con- permit Raj was built by your Govern- fused. These middle class workers arc benefited. Some of my workers are ment. * benefited. 1 am not referring to them. SHRI VISWANATH PRATAP SINGH: I am referring to five to six millions It was necessary at that time. In the of unorganised workers, poor workefs, present context, we have to see what for whom there is nothing. Whatever options we have. Had we been critical you give raising it from Rs. 15,000 we have to think what would have been to Rs. 18,000 it goes to some only; our stake. We had to resort to fiscal con- but it should be increased to more trol at that time because that was the than Rs. 20,000. What you have given situation of the growth of the is all right but it should be increased to economy. Now, we are in a better Ra. 20,000 or 25,000. position. We have to take a second look. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: In the some breath he says that it should About the small scale sccter, we have be raised to Rs. 25,000, If we go upto said that wc have taken care of small Rs. 18,000 it goes to white-collared people, scale sector. Now, this small scale sector, and if we raise it to Rs. 25,000 it will be- when it used to be Rs. 70 lakhs they were come “blue-collared” ? not getting the benefit of excise concession; wc said, that it may be now up to Rs. 35 The general approach has been for lakhs and it can go up to Rs. 75 lakhs growth, productivity, savings, and better and progressively more. That is how we compliance of taxes. The approach was to have taken carc. lower the taxes, but take away the exemp- tions. What was happening is, we had a Big companies can get the money. But high marginal tax rate, but many exemp- the small companies if they wanted tions. So virtually we had big companies money, they had a difficulty. They were paying no tax at all. They took the bene- insisting on interest. We have now tried to fits of all the exemptions. W'e have give a little more interest, and with a little snatched away all those exemptions, in back more capital they can complete with the doors and windows through which they big companies. used to run away. But at the same time, we made it a tax rate which would be reason- Ev^en advertising, let us see. The big able and which would be complied with. companies are spending on advertising. What was happening ? With unreasonable They can live with it because they have tax rale we were only getting the rate, but heavy turnover, while new entrants—what- not the taxes, and tax rate becam.e a mere ever be the amount of expenditure-^ slogan. could not get money— without some concessions. That is why we took this We mean business when we say that measure* this is to be taxed aud we are goin]^ to 299 General Budget^ 1985-86 MARCH 25,19«5 General Budget, 1985-86 300 take it and there shall have to be no with the Plan, because the economic reality escope. It is not that haye gifted away is not segmenled. And if it is not segmen- concessions to the corporative sector. ted, our response also cannot be segmented. After all these calculations, if you look at The policies of trade, financial, agriculture the Budget, we arc going to extract and industry should integrate as one gigna- Rs. 251 crores from the corporate sector. tic effort to fulfil the Plan* Today in the We are not gifting away concessions to . Plan we have to deal with economic the corporate sector as you have i>een aggregates like savings, employment, talking about. investment. And they have inter-relation- ship. But it is not backed by solid commit- I do not want to take the time of the ments on credit, fiscal policy, import and House an personal taxation, because it is export controls or licensing regime. I think in the same light that wc have brought it this is what we are aiming at and 1 hope, down. by the time the Plan document comes, we will be able to come with a long term .About compulsory deposit scheme. fiscal policy co-terminous with the Plan. Mr. Krishna Iyer said that it was an In this I will be initiating a wide debate irritant. We have removed that after this Budget session in which I would irritant. It was our commitment also. request hon. Members also to contribute This has tjeen the light of our taxa- so that we are able to formulate for the tion proposals. You may ask: If you have national good a direction and policy that made these concessions, where will you will be useful!. get the revenue from ? I will get the revenue exactly from the concessions them- Talking about some of the problems, selves, By having better tax compliance I I do not have to go into details about will get the revenue. That is the funda- resource position. A point was made by mental assumption of these changes. Shri Madhav Reddy J i . when he started the debate that the States are being It has be^n said that this Budget is squeezed of resources. It is the first time pro-rich. It is pro-rich because we are in five years that an increase of 34 per cent going to have special courts to Central assistance has been given to the deal with the tax evaders. It is pro-rich States. Last year it was 13 per cent and because anybody taking loan or advance during Janata regime it was only 22 of more than Rs. 10,000 without cheque per cent as an average. In 1979-80 it was and commit an offence, we are going to very much less. 1 do not remember the lock him in from six months to seven figure. The borrowings have been doubled years. It is pro-rich because the right to from ten per cent to 20 per cent, and go and disclose income and get scotfree while this has been done, we are being has been snatched away. It is pro-rich charged that we are squeezing the States because we have given noticc to bad of the funds. I did not want to trade managers that if they ruin industries, they poverty for publicity though I could have. will not have any access to institutional Instead of giving a 40 per cent rise in finance. It is pro-rich because the statu- Central aasistance, since last year it was tory liquidity ratio which would have 13 per cent, this year I could have given gone to the private sector, we have 15 per cent rise and said I have increased increased to 1 per cent and made it avail- the rate and, thus, I could have a 20 per able to the public sector side. I would say cent rise in the Central Budget which, that these are solid facts. today, I am being criticised, is only 7 per cent. I could have done that but our When Shri Indrajit Gupta said that this interest in the States is not only news- Budget was transparent, 1 thought, it paper deep, it is deeper, and today we are would be transparent to this level. The guilty because we have given trust to the Budget is transparent but I cannot make States. We wanted to push agriculture, the vision transparent if it is cloudy. irrigation, education, our poverty program- One thing wc have made. I would seek mes, and today I am in the decks the comments of the hon. Members to because I have trusted that the States can hav« a long term fiscal polity co-terminous do it, and allocated more funds to the 2C]' Cfrcrcl Pi(fset,J985-86 CHAITBA 4, m i(S ^ K j4 ) Ccr.erd Budget, J985-S6 ^02 , States. Arc the slates anti-poor ? When This budget has been said to be anti- Mr. Panja mentioned West Bengal, there poor. It has been said to be anti-poor, was some comment from that side. In the because we have raised the allocation for first four years of the Sixth Plan, the Stale. the 20-Point Programme by 18.3 per cent, * Government’s plan expenditure was Rs. it has been found to be anti-poor because 1.796 crores—a little more than 51 percent we have brought a social security scheme of the total outlay, and out of these Rs. to stand by a bereaved family, which has 1.796 crores spent by the West Bengal nothing to look forward to; it is called Government, Rs. 1,7C0 crorcs came anti-poor bccause we have brought in from Centrally administered resources crop iusurance for the farmer, who had or through overdrawals from the RBI. no such relief earlier; it is anti-poor The State Government’s budgetary and because we have raised the bonus calcu- public sector contribulion to this expen- lation from Rs. 750 to Rs. 1600 for the diture in four years was an insignificant workers; it is anti-poor because w'e have amount of Rs. 96 crores only. And we given the workers’ dues the position equal are charged, “ Why is your deficit grow- to secured debts; it is anti-poor because ing ? Why you have unmanageable we have increased the retrenchment deficit ? Why you are running to inflation” allowance from Rs. 25,000 to Rs. 50,000, Now, what is this situation, can any which we have t'Ktvc\pXt&...{I^‘terruptions) one underrate this ? ijnterruptions) it is anti'poor because we have committed ourselves to increase the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : What workers* participation in management, it have you taken out of West Bengal ? is anti-poor because we have ... [Interruptions] {Interruptions) SHRI YISHWANATH PRATAP The only point that has been made is SI'NGH: I can soften my words, I can soften the reduction in allocation for IRDP and my tone, but I cannot soften the facts NREP sehemes. Hon. Members from this which are there (Interruptions). side have also mentioned it. As I have said on the floor of the House, we will make a MR. CHAIRMAN : Let the Finance response to it. Many States have been Minister finish first. . . [Interruptions], pleading that they could not finalise their plan. In many of the schemes, 50 per ccnt SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Mr. of the contribution has to come from the Chairman, my only request to you is States. This could not be discussed. I said that this debate should not degnarate on the floor of the House that the anti- into a tirado against West Bengal . . . poor progranime will not suffer from this {Interrupt ions) reduction at all. Thot is the commitment of the Government. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: I will say no more about West Bengal... Shri Reddy mentioned about the (Interruptions). reduction in the hill area programme. We have made a provision of Rs. 170 crores, MR. CHAIRMAN : Order, order. which is higher than that of previous Please resume your seats. year. For the Scheduled Castes component ' (Interruptions) plan, the Central Plan allocation, which was Rs. 140 crores in the 1984-85 budget SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: estimates, has been increased to Rs. 165 Sir, our budget is said to be in favour of crores. For the tribal areas programme the the better off, for the rich, because the allocation has been increased from Rs. duty on motor car has hot t>een reduced 126 crores to Rs. 140 crores. Shri Indrajit from 11 per cent ... {Interruptions) and Gupta mentioned that the power goes to West Bengal Government has reduced the private sector. I do not know if he sales tax from 11 per cent to 8 per cent. has forgotten Lenin’s maxim about power. Now this revolution is in tune with the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : That is revolution ... {Interruptions). Before we different power, not electric power. utter something, we should see ... SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH; {Interruptions) shoyld ^ removed. Much has been said about inflation and 303 Cencra! Budget^ 1985-86 MARCH 25. 1985 Certeral Budget, J985-86 3C4 its impact. When the second oil hike came The then Finance Minister, Shri H. M. with the increase in the prices of petro- Patel is here. You can ask and verify leum products, the Janata Party was here from him. and many of the members of the opposi- tion were in the Government. At that SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; Do you time, they did not make any adjustment consider the new prices which have been of the oil prices. Finally, they were announced by the public sector oil caught in inflation. They did not raise the company to be fair in relation to the price of oil and they just kept quiet. duties which you have increased ? One is Finally, they were caught with an inflation getting you Rs. 600 crores and the new rate of 22 per cent. prices are getting you Rs. 900 crores. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: SHRIS. JAIPAL REDDY: When? What about the dollar exchange rate which Which year ? has taken Rs. 1,000 crores ? You have SHRI VISHWANATH FRATAP put a question about the effect of the rise SINGH : In 1979-80. in dollar exchange rate on the IMF loans, but on this question you are not applying SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : Janata it. Rs. 1,000 crores is because of the rise Party was not there then. It was thrown in the dollar exchange rate and that has out because of your conspiracy. been neutralised. PROF. N. G. RANGA r Mr. Poojary SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP had referred to it the other day. SINGH : Who was there if Janata Party was not there. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH: Now I come to a very mundane thing— SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY ; When you soap. I would like to explain this point lefer to June 1979, why don’t you talk of because there is some misunderstanding 1977, 1978 and 1979 ? an soap. Toilet soap valued less than Rs. 7800 per metric tonne this being charged SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP at five per cent ad valorem. Wc have SINGH : It was thrown out because so raised the limit. Now five per cent will be many defections took placc. levied right upto Rs. 10,000 per metric {Jnterrupti ons) tonne. So the lower rate has been increa- sed. But on the costlier household soap — SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: and if all Members of the Opposition use Apart from poor performance in power costlier household soap—I have a right to and railway, there was a fall in the get something. That has been increased to national income by 4.8 per cent, there was 15 per cent. It is true. 1 may inform the ft fall in industrial production by 1.4 per House that 80 per cent of the produc- cent and the whole fiscal system was tion of household or laundry soap would collapsing at that time. We were compe- qualify for the concessional rate of 5 per lled to increase petroleum prices by 50 per cent. So, the poor man and the washerman cent when we came to power. We did it are not going to be hit. boldly aod the inflation rate did not go up. Inflation rate was reduced to 16.7 per There was little misconception about cent from where you had at more than 22 TV. The point was made that„ impost on per cent. It was further brought down to TV has been left out while it has been 2.4 per cent. We took a bold step and imposed on Bidi. Here we are recovering adjusted the economy to realities and we from the initial purchaser and the manu- got the better of it. facturer himself, but the only thing that we have is that we have relaxed the {Interruptions problem of running about for its licences. MR. CHAIRMAN : You had your say. It is not that TV has been left scot free Please hear the reply of the Hon. and we have imposed on Bidi. Minister. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : About SHRI B. K. GADHVI (Banaskantha): pidi there should be concession. 305 General Budget J985-86 CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Cenercl Budget, J985-86 306 SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH; On diesel and kerosene, I have already How much ? You see, smoking is injurious told you the reasons. I need not repeat to health. I do not know whether the out the background of this increase and Hon. Member is interested in Bidi or in the rationale behind it. But, hon. Members, cigarette. with a view to giving relief to the faLrm sector and the poor section of the people SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY : 1 am who use diesel and kerosene, wc have interested in neither. What I am interested dccided to reduce the prices announced in is poor people. on the I6th March, 1985 in respect of high SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: speed diesel and kerosene by 7 paise per All right. There has been the large con- liter. sensus among Members from this side AN HON. MEMBER : What about also. Everyone has been demanding that pan masala ? this impost should not be on Bidi. So, we are going to remove the extra burden we SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP had put on Bidi. SINGH : About pan masala..,. (Interruptions) SOME HON. MEMBERS ; No. SHRI INDRAJJT GUPTA ; What about SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: kerosene ? (Interruptions). Sir, I will go by the feelings of the House, [Interruptions] SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH : Anyway, Sir, I am grateful for MR. CHAIRMAN : Order please. this applause from the House. Bnt it has cost me about Rs. 10 crores. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH : Sir, I have to recover this from AN HON. MEMBER ; It is a poormao’s somewhere. While these concessions haver entertainment. been made, my hon. friend from South has come and shown something as \Translation\ pan masata. That problem, I will loo^ it separately. But about the pan rnasateu^ SHRI BALK AVI BAIRAGl (Mandsaur): the general consensus is, it should remain. It is a matter of happiness that the hon. Finance Minister has taken care of [Translation] bidin.. \Interrupti(>ns\ AN HON. MEMBER : Yon may [English] increase the impost on pan masala,.., SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAPSINGH: {Interruptions). Sir, hon. Members have expressed thair co.ncern about the farmers and the farm [English] sector. The House may remember that our AN HON. MEMBER ; What about farmers arc the backbone of our economy. betel importers ? It is from their contribution that we derive'strength for*our economy. We have SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP decided now to exempt all agricultural SINGH : Betel importers will not bo implements including power-operated affected, I will tell you. implements which fall under item 68 from Sir, I have to recover it somewhere. the levy of excise duty. Somehow, I don’t have the knowledge of AN HON. MEMBER : What about mathematics which my hon. friends on diesel engine and tractors ? the opposite have. I have to recover it from som.ewhere. I propose therefore to SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP raise the excise duty on cigarettes; SINGH ; Sir, for the farm sector, I propose (Interruptions.) The rates of duty on to exempt excise duty specified for poultry cigarettes are proposed to be increased by equipments, namely, incubators poultry one paisa per cigarette. In the case of feed mix and grinders. So, these are cigarette whose adjusted sale price is more for the farm sector and for the farmers. than Rs. 3 per packet of JO, the incrcas? t&J General Budget^ J 985-86 MARCH 25. 1985 General Budget^ 1985-86 308 will be higher. No changc is being effected MR. CHAIRMAN: I shall now put the in cheaper varieties of cigarettes costing Supplementary Demands for Grants about 60 paise per packet of 10. The (General) for 1984-85. measure is estimated to yield an additional The question is : revenue of Rs.9 5 crores. The copies of Notifications will be placedon the Tabic “That the respective Supplementary sums not exceeding the amounts on of the House. Revenue Account and Capital Account I thank all the hon. Members who shown in the third column of the Order have participated in the debate on the Paper be granted to the President out General Budget... (Interruptions)’ of the Consolidated Fund of India to defray the charges that will come in 16.00 hrs. course of payment during the year MR. CHAIRMAN : please allow the ending 31st day of March, 1985 in Finance Minister to reply. respect of the following demands entered in the second column thereof : SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP Demand Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, SINGH : You cannot cook without salt, 11, 12,17, 18, 19, 21, 23,25, 26,27, On salt, the Railway Minister would be 31, 32,33,34. 35, 36, 37, 38,39, 40, responding There was no tax increased 41. 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 52, 53, on salt. {Interruptions) 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66. 68,69, 71, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, SOME HON. MEMBERS What 82, 83, 85, 86, 88, 89, 91, 96, 100, 101, about cooking gas ? 104, 105, 108 and 109.” The motion m s adopted. List of Supplementary Demands for Grants {General) for 1984^85 voted by the Lok Sabha No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Grant voted Demand by House 1 Revenue Capital Rs. Rs, Mini§try of Agriculture 1. Department of Agriculture and Cooperation 35.85.000 2. Agriculture 19,30,01,000 3. Fisheries 1,62,00,000 4. Animal Husbandry and Dairy Development 1,000 7. Department of Agricultural Research and Education 10.27.000 Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers 9. Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers 119.59.34.000 Ministry of Commerce 10. Ministry of Commerce 19.15.000 11. Foreign Trade and Export ProdiKrion 3,000 I?, Textiles, Handloom and Handicrafts 22.98.55.000 141*35,89,000 ³ P *HQHUDO %X-JHW- A &+$,75$ ^6$.$ *HQHUDO%XGJHW -,2 0LQLVWU\RI&RPPXQLFDWLRQV &DSLWDO 2XWOD\RQ 3RVWV DQG 7HOHJUDSKV 0LQLVWU\RI'HIHQFH 0LQLVWU\RI'HIHQFH 'HIHQFH 6HUYLFHV²$UP\ 'HIHQFH 6HUYLFHV²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cticral Budfi'Ct^ I985"86 MARCH 25. 1985 General Budge t, 1985-86 312 1 Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 47. Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 5,00,000 ... 48. Medical and Public Health 4,17,06,000 12,22,94,000 49. Family Welfare 10,12,88,000 ... Ministry of Home Affairs 50. Ministry of Horae Affairs 1,49,12,400 52. Department of Personnel and Administrative Reforms 1,83,03,000 53. Police 82.98.19.000 7.68.21.000 54. Other Administrative and General Services 54.17.48.000 4.60.60.000 55. Other Expenditure of the Ministry of Home Affairs 5.42.17.000 56. Delhi 34.54.22.000 5,000 57. Chandigarh 5.04.94.000 58. Andaman and Nicobar Islamds 3.12.86.000 1,61,68,000 59. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 44.99.000 • • • 60. Lakshadweep 2.47.35.000 84,69,000 Ministry of Industry 61. Ministry of Industry 20.15.000 62. Industries 37,03,79,000 63. Village and Small Industries 2,53,75,000 ' Ministry of Information and Broadcasting 64. Ministry of Information and Broadcasting 21.34.000 65. Information and Publicity 6,47,19,000 66. Broadcasting 13.42.21.000 5,16,87,000 Ministry of Labour and Rehabilitation 68. Department of Labour 16.77.000 69. Labour and Employment 57.18.06.000 7,00,000 , I Ministry of Law, Justice and Company Affairs 71. Ministry of Law, Justice and Company Affairs 23.58.000 Ministry of Planning 75. Planning Commission 59»43,000 313 Gvr.eral Budget J985.86 CHKITKK A, m iiS A K A ) General Budget, 1985-86 M 1 2 3 Ministry of Rural Development . 76. Ministry of Rural Development 1,000 • t • Ministry of Shipping and Transport 77. Ministry of Shipping and Transport 47,11,000 • • • 78. Roads 8,64,90,000 10,98,52,000 79. Ports, Ligthtouses and Shipping 4,000 4,000 80. Road and Inland Water Transport 1,000 12,12,50,000 Ministry of Steel and Mines 82. Department of Steel 138,98,24,000 449,97.46,000 83. Department of Mines 1,000 24,55,00.000 Ministry of Tourism and Cifil AviatMHi 85.. , Meteorology 36,59,000 4 • « 86. Aviation • « « 1,000 Ministry of Works and Housing 88. Ministry of Works and Housing 18,76,000 ■ • • f 89. Public Works 1,87,18,000 * « t 91. Housing and Urban Development . 1,65,00,000 2.00,01,000 Department of Electronies 96. Department of Electronics 1,000 1,000 Department of Science and Technology 100. Survey of India 3,47,70,000 • • • 101. Grants to Council of Scientific and Industrial Re^arch 8,50,00,000 « • • Department of Supply 104. Department of Supply 4,75,000 • il • 105. Supplies and Disposals 25,00,000 » » i Parliament, Department of Parliamentary Affairs, Secretariats of the President and Vice-President and Union Public Service Commission 108. Ds partm«nt of Parliamentary Affairs 3,35,000 k • k 109. Secretariat of the Vice-President 1,85,000 » > • 315 Gateral Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 2^, 1985 General Budget, 1985-86 316 MR. CHAIRMAN : I shall now put to the President out of the Consolidated the Demands for Grants on Account Fund of India, on account, for or (General) for 1985-86. The question is : towards defraying the charges during the “That the respective sums not exceed- year ending on the 31st day of March, ing the amounts on Revenue Account 1986, in respect of the heads of demands^ and Capital Account shown in the third entered in the second column thereof column of the Order Paper, be granted against Demand Nos. 1 to 106«’* The motion was adopted. List o f Demands for Grants on Account {General) for 1985-86 voted by Lok Sabha No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Grant Demand' on account to be submitted to the vote of the House 1 2 3 Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development 1. Department of Agriculture and Cooperation 78.57.000 1, Agriculture 41.38.40.000 3,71,00,43,000 3. Fisheries 4.47.80.000 1.64.01.000 4. Animal Husbandry and Dairy Development 22.71.77.000 7.18.01.000 5. Co-operation 2.41.80.000 38,98,67,000 6. Department 6f Agricultural Research 14.81.000 and Education ■ 7. Payments to Indian Council of Agricultural 24.73.19.000 Researc 8. Department of Rural Development 1.88.22.14.000 7,52,000 Ministry of Cliemicals and Fertilizers 9. Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilizers 2.06.31.51.000 27,27,83,000 Ministry of Commerce and Supply 10. Ministry of Commerce and Supply 57.33.000 11. Foreign Trade and Export Production 1.35.87.38.000 18.20.58.000 12. Textiles, Handldom and Handicrafts 43.75.32.000 36.62.97.000 13. Supplies and Disposals 2.54.05.000 Ministry of Communications . 14. Ministry of Communications 92.46.000 7.12.33.000 15. Overseas Communications Servio® 7.54.20.000 2.23.33.000 16. Postal Services 1.31.59.16.000 5.91.33.000 *HQHUDO%XGJHW &+$,75$ A A *HQHUDO%XGJHW 1 7HOD RPQQLXQLFDWLRQ 6HUYLFHV 0LQLVWU\RI'HIFQFH 0LQLVWU\ RI'HIHQFH 'HIHQFH3HQVLRQV 'HIHQFH 6HUYLFHV² $UP\ 'HIHQFH 6HUYLFHVA²1DY\ 'HIHQFH6HUYLFHV² $LU )RUFH &DSLWDO 2XWOD\ RQ 'HIHQFH 6HUYLFHV 0LQLVWU\RI (GXFDWLRQ 0LQLVWU\ RI(GXFDWLRQ (GXFDWLRQ 0LQLVWU\RI,LWYLURQPHQWDQG)RUHVWV 'HSDUWPHQW RI(QYLURQPHQW 'HSDUWPHQW RI)RUHVWV DQG :LOG /LIH 0LQLVWU\RI([WHUQDO $IIDLUV 0LQLVWU\ RI([WHWMRDO $IIDLUV 0LQLVWU\RI)LQDQFH 0LQLVWU\ RI)LQDQFH &XVWRPV 8QLRQ([FLVH'XWLHV 7D[HV RQ ,QFRPH (VWDWH'XW\ :HDOWK 7D[ DQG*LIW7D[ 6WDPSV $XGLW &XUUHQF\ &RLQDJHDQG 0LQW 3HQVLRQV Ŷ 2SLXPDQG $ONDORLG )DFWRULHV 7UDQVIHUV WR 6WDWH *RYHUQPHQWV N 2WKHU([SHQGLWXUH RIWKH 0LQLVWU\RI)LQDQFH /RDQVWR *RYHUQPHQW6HUYDQWVHWF 0LQLVWU\RI)RRGDQG &LYLO6XSSOLHV 'HSDUWPHQWRI)RRG ¶ " 'HSDUWPHQWSI&LY86XSSOLHV O6 319 General Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget^ 1985-86 320 Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 43. Ministry of Health and Family Welfare 33,31,000 ■ V r* 44. Mcdlcal and Public Health 52,67,88,000 17,90.53,000 45. Family Welfare 88,94.33,000 1,86,33,000 Ministry of Home Affairs 46. Ministry of Home Affairs 1,25,85,000 47. Cabinet 1,23,54,000 48. Police 97,45,71,000 6,40,32,000 49. Other Adminisirative and General Services 46,65,97,000 6,99,91,000 50. Rehabilitation 25,30,56,000 1,29,33.000 51. Other Expenditure of the Ministry of Home Affairs 65.66,39,000 36,69,76,000 52. Delhi 67,67,51,000 46,82,19,000 53. Chandigarh 11,19,44,000 6,24,58,000 54. Andaman and Nicobar Islands 10,63,06,000 6,18,60,000 55. Dadra and Nagar Haveli 1,37,62,000 98,33,000 56. Lakshadv/eep 3,14,81,000 55,52,000 Ministry of Industry and Company Affairs 57. Ministry of Industry and Company Affairs 1,85,91,000 16,000 58. Industries 17,92,08,000 51,14,00,000 59. Village and Small Industries 34,10,25,000 25,50,67,000 Ministry of Information and Broadcasting 60. Ministry of Information and Broadcasting 27,21,000 61. Information and Publicity 7,72,19.000 30,50,000 62. Broadcasting . 28,70,10.000 20,45,14,000 Ministry of Irrigation and Power 63. Department of Irrigation 29,77,31,000 4,41,34,000 64. Department of Power 38,49,31,000 2,80,76,11,000 • • Ministry of Labour 65. Department of Labour 30,31,000 66. Labour and Emplo^meat ^9,99,40,000 18,66.000 321 General Budget, 1985^86 CHAITRA 4. 1907 {SAKA) General Budget, 1985M 322 Ministry of Law and Justice 67. Ministry of Law and Justice 5.46.11.000 68. Administration of Justice 17.86.000 Ministry of Parliamentry Affairs 69. Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs 8,24,000 Ministry of Petroleum 70. Ministry of Petroleum ' 42.71.000 45,23,31,000 Ministry of Planning 71. Planning 1.28.25.000 72. Statistics 4.46.83.000 Ministry of Science and Technology 73. Department of Science and technology 10.70.50.000 5.75.000 74. Survey of India 7.09.16.000 1.67.000 75. Meteorology 5,19,69,000 1,22,30,000 76. Department of Scientific and Industrial 26,30,58,000 45.00.000 Research 77. Department of Non-Conventional Energy 20,09^41,000 40.00.000 Sources Ministry of Shipping and Transport 78. Ministry of shipping and Transport 1.01.14.000 79. Roads 38.44.17.000 45.49.94.000 80. Ports, Lighthouses and Shipping 17.20.24.000 21.07.48.000 81. Road and Inland Water Transport 2.25.27.000 26.50.02.000 Ministry of Social and Women’s Welfare 82. Ministry of Social and Women Welfare 21.26.97.000 11,08,000 Ministry of Steel, Mines and Coal 83. Department of Steel 2.43.11.000 1,17,32,83,000 84. Department of Mines 20.47.79.000 50,24,16,000 85. Department of Coal 24.74.48.000 1,77,50,01,000 Ministry of Tourism and Civil 'Aviation 86. Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation 22,64,000 ... ?7t Aviatiop 10,95,57,000 15.13,50,000 323 General Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 General Budget^ 1985-86 324 1 2 *3 88. Tourism * 3,03.40,000 2,23,63,000 Ministry of Worfcs and Housing 89. Ministry of Works and Housing 37,17,000 • • • 90. Public Works 20,61.10,000 11,57,22,000 91. Water Supply and Sewerage 50,16,66,000 • • « 92. Housing and Urban Development 6,00,77.000 14,46,85,000 93. Stationery and Printing 10,31,32,000 • • • Department of Atomic Energy 94, Department of Atomic Energy 22,41,000 • • « 95. Atomic Energy Research,Development and Industrial Projects 32,46,76,000 71,94,39,000 96. Nuclear Power Schemes 75,94,03,000 32,96,20,000 Department of Culture 97. Department of Culture 5,44,67,000 • t • 98. Archaeology 2,65,83,000 « • • Department of Electronics 99, Department of Electronics 9,32,50,000 8,40,83,000 Department of Ocean Development 100, Department of Ocean Development 4,32,43,000 11,66,000 Department of Personnel and Administrative Reforms 101. Department of Personnel and Administrative ' Reforms 2,54,85,000 « • • Department of Space 102. Department of Space 24,59,26,000 18,36,44,000 Department of Youth Affairs and Sports 103. Department of Youth Affairs and Sports 5,60,60,000 21,66,000 Parliament, Secretariats of the President and Vice* President and Union Public Service Commission 104, Lok Sabha 1,89,70,000 ft • • 105. Rajya Sahba . 66,49,000 • ■ ■ 106. Secretariat of the Vice-President 1,88,000 • • • 325 Appropriation (No. 3) CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Appropriation {No. 3) 326 Billy 1985 Bill, 1985 • 16.03 hrs. Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the Title were added to the Bill. .» APPROPRIATION (N0.3) BILL, 1985* SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND SINGH : Sir, 1 beg to move : COMMERCE AND SUPPLY (SHRI “That the Bill be passed.” VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a SHRI S. M. BHATTAM (Visakha^ Bill to authorise payment and appropria- patnam) : The hon. Minister was good tion of certain further sums from and out enough to make some announcements of of the Consolidated Fund of India for the certain concessions. I would like to raise services of the financial year 1984-85. the issue of public sector undertakings, particularly of Visakhapatnam. It is a MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : huge public sector undertaking whose outlay is to the tune of Rs. 8,300 crores. ■ “That leave be granted to intro- duce a Bill to authorise payment and MR. CHAIRMAN : You have not appropriation of certain further sums given any notice. from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : At the stage year 1984-85. of the Appropriation Bill, we can make submissions. The motion was adopted. MR. CHAIRMAN : Please refer to Rule 218(6) of the Rules of Procedure SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP and Conduct of Business of Lok Sabha. SINGH : I introducetf the Bill. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : At the final I beg to movef : stage, we can discuss. Rs. 8,300 crores are “That the Bill to outhorise payment given... and appropriation of certain further MR. CHAIRMAN : Please go through sums from and out of the Consolidated the rules. Fund of India for the services of the financial year 1984-85 be taken into SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : At the consideration.” Appropriation Bill stage, we can participate in the discussion and make final observa- MR. CHAIRMAN ; The question is : tion in the matter. “That the Bill to authorise payment . MR. CHAIRMAN : Have you given and appropriation of certain further notice ? suras from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the SARI S. M. BHATTAM : Notice is not financial year 1984-85 be taken into necessary. consideration.” MR. CHAIRMAN : Unless you give The motion was adopted. notice, how can I call you to speak ? You must give notice. Then if I call you, you MR. CHAIRMAN : The House will can speak. I would just invite your attention now take up clause by clause consideration to Rule 218(6) of the Rules of Procedure of the Bill. , and Conduct of Business of Lok Sabha. The question is : SARI S. M. BHATTAM : You have “That Clauses 2, 3 and the Sche- to allow me to parti cipate in the discussion dule stand part of the Bill.” at this stage. This is my legitimate demand. MR. CHAIRMAN : You must give , The motion was adopted. prior intimation. So far as the Appro- * Clause 2, 3 and the Schedule were priation Bill is concerned, there is a added to the BUI. specific rule. Please go through it. ♦Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary Part II, Section 2, dated 25-3-1985. flatroduced/moved with the recommendation of the President. • T 327 Appropriation {Vots on MARCH 25.1985 Appropriation (Vote on 328 Account) B///, 1985 Account) Sillf 1985 SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : 1 do not MR. CHAIRMAN : I have invited your know it, attention to the rule. The rule is rule of the House, and unless the rule is amended, MR. CHAIRMAN t The question is : I cannot help. I cannot break the rule. “That the Bill be passed.*’ The House will now take up clause by The motion was adopted. clause consideration of the Bill. . . . APPROPRIATION (VOTE ON SHRI H. M. PATEL (Sabarkantha) : Although you draw our attention to the ACCOUNT) BILL, 1985* rule. I wish to point out that it has always THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND been the practice of the Speaker to permit COMMERCE AND SUPPLY (SHRI any observations on Appropriation Bill, VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : Sir, whether there is notice or not. It is a I big to move for leave to introduce a discretion that is exercied, and the discre- Bill to provide for the withdrawal of tion is always exercised in favour of giving certain sums from and out of the permission rather than otherwise. Consolidated Fund of India for the services MR. CHAIRMAN : Unless the House of a part of the financial year 1985-86. agrees, the rule cannot be suspended. Only MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : if the whole House agreesj any rule can be suspended. If the House agrees, I can “That leave be granted to intro- do it. Anyway, I will allow the hon. duce a Bill to provide for the with- Member to seek clarification at the time drawal of certain sums from and out of Third Reading. of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the finan- The question is ; cial year, 1985-86.” “That Clauses 2 to 4 and the Schedule stand part of the Bill,” The motion was adopted. The motion was adopted. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH ; Sir, I introducefj' the Bill. Sir, I Clauses 2 to 4 and the Schedule were added to the Bill. beg to move*!" : Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the “That the Bill to provide for the Title were added to the Bill.- withdrawal of certain sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP for the services of a part of the SINGH : Sir, I beg to move ; financial year 1985-86, be taken into' “That the Bill be passed.” consideration.” MR. CHAIRMAN : Motion moved : MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : “That the Bill be passed.” "That the Bill to provide for the withdrawal of certain sums from Mr. Bhattam. and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of a part of the SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : 1 was on financial year 1985-86, be taken into the point that the public sector under- consideration.** taking are being given a very raw deal, t have been particularly referring to the The motion was adopted. Visakhapatnam Steel Plant. This year a provision of only Rs. 215 crores has been SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : Sir, at this made as against Rs. 650 crores given last stage I may be allowed to speak. I have year. As against the total estimated cost given in writing. of about Rs. 8,300 crores, this year only ♦Published in Cazette of India Extraordinary Part 11, Section 2, dated 25-3-1985. +Introduced/moved with the recommendation of the President. 329 Appropriation (Vote on CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Appropriation {Vote on 33o Account) Bill, m s Account) Bill, 1985 a meagre amount of Rs. 215 crores has like the Minister to clarify the Govern- been given whereas the undertaking ment’s stand. recjuires at least a thousand crores of SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA rupees for this year. That being so, the RAO (Vijayawada) : The hon. Minister project can never be completed within the for Finance was telling that this Govern- time schedule given. Is it proper. Can the ment is giving utmost priority for agri- provision for a public sector undertaking culture. But even now the farmers in rural be so severely slashed like this ? Will the areas are suffering for want of credit and hon. Minister kindly consider this and they arc compelled to take credit at higher make adequate provision for this ? rates from the money-lending people. Will the Finance Minister increase the amount SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- that will be made available through MAN (Alleppey) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, NABARD by at least another Rs. 200 in the Third Reading of the Bill, he can crores ? speak either on the general policy or about the implementation of the Bill. He SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY cannot raise any specific issue in the (Katwa) : The hon. Minister has given Third Reading. some concessions on diesel and kerosene. But the remaining larger increases in MR. CHAIRMAN : He wants to seek petroleum prices are going to affect the some clarification. It is all right. fares of buses and transport. Now the States are under compulsion to agree to SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : i particularly an increase in the bus fares and it is going invice the attention of the hon. Finance to causc a lot of hardship to the Minister to this and request him to look commuters. into this aspect. The period of gestation of public sector undertakings has got to be Now I would like to know whether you necessarily reduced so that they can be will be considering giving some subsidy completed within the stipulated time on this account so that the State Govern- schedule. Otherwise, there will be cost ments can give that subsidy to the bus- escalation. Originally, the Visakhapatnam owners if possible and convince them not Steel Plant was estimated to cost Rs. 2,839 to hike the bus fares. crores, but now it has gone up to Rs. SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER 8,300 crores. At this rate, we will not be (Bangalore South) : What are the criteria able to complete the project at all. Kindly on which central assistance is given to the do consider this and make adequate drought-affected areas ? In Karnataka provision for this. This is my submission. State out of 135 taluks there are drought conditions in 103 taluks and the Karnataka DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bomaby Government has submitted three South Central) : In the President’s address memoranda requesting for assistance of and also in the Finance Minister’s Budget nearly Rs. 255 crores whereas the Central speech the Government has assured that Government has given oly Rs. 32.5 crores. the textile policy concerning all textiles— The hon. Chief Minister of Karnataka has powerloom and handloom also will be been repeatedly reminding your good self decidcd by the Government. Already in and all the Members from Karnataka— we Bombay, Ahmedabad, Delhi and Kanpur have received copies of that—that so far the 3 lakh textile workers are out for the last Central Government has given only Rs. 6 to 7 months. The Government is 30 crores. The State has to incur increased categorically assuring every time that they expenditure and when it is forccd to take an are going to announce the textile policy. overdraft, of course, the Gentral Govern- This is a major important issue. Therefore^ ment accuses the State Government I want I would like to know from the Government to know the criteria on which such when it will be announced and how soon assistance is given. it will be announced and what will be the relief because the workers are literally [Translation] dying in all the cities. Even in Delhi 4 SHRI GIRDHARILAL VYAS (Bhihvara): mills are closed. On this issue 1 would Mr. Chairm.an, Sir, through you, I want 331 Apppt'opriation {.Vote on MARCH 25, 1985 Appropriation (f^ote on 33l Account) Bill^ 1985 Account) Billy 1985 to bring to the notice of the hon. Financc raised to Rs. 1600 and Rs. 1600 limit Minister that the nationalised banks are should be raised to Rs. 2500. I would charging compound interest, many times like to know whether the hon. Finance more than the principal, on loans advanced Minister will reconsider this issue and to the farmers. Rs. 15,000 are being realis- concede the demands of the trade unions. ed against a loan of Rs. 3,000, whereas PROF. N. G. RANG A : Mr. Chairmao» there is a provision in the Civil Procedure Sir, as has been pointed out by my Code that recovery of more than double colleague from the Congress side, I would the amount of principal cannot be made. like to say that so far as Agricultural Similar provision also exists in the Act credit is concerned today the cooperatives relating to money lending, but in the and banks go on charging penal rates for absence of any rules in this regard in the failure to pay the loan on the due date banks, the farmers are being subjected to fixed by the banks. As far as ordinary loot and their lands are bsing auctioned. private moneylenders are concerned we Therefore, I would like to know from have Debt Relief Act but in rf^ard to the hon. Minister wliether he would bands and cooperatives there is no such formulate rules to protect the poor farmers legislation at all. So, consideration has to from this loot ? be given to this particular point as to at SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI what stage and in what manner peasants (Mandsaur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, 1 would can be given relief from such penal rates. £^lso like to draw the attention of hon. The peasant should not be made to pay Finance Minister to an important point. twice the amount loaned to him. I would The non. Finance Minister has been kind like the hon. Finance Minister to give enough to remove the extra excise duty spKjial consideration to this. on bidi. I thank him for that. This KUMARI MAMATA BANNERJEE is the first Government of which we have (Jadawpur) : I want to say that a large hopes they have raised the duty on soda section of our sick industries in West while they have not touched wine. May I Bengal has been closed down. Many know the reasons behind it ? Wine is an workers are now in starvation. I want to item on which you can increase excise know what is the government policy duty, but you have spared it. regarding this serious matter. It is a very [English] serious matter. Sir, many workers will be unemployed. West Bengals economy will SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA be ruined. (Andaman and Nicobar Islands) : Sir, I also want to seek a clarification from the \Tran.slation] hon. Finance Minister. The State govern- ments have revenues for resources but so SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA far as the Union territories are concerned (Robertsganj) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, it is partlculary like Andaman and Nicobar heartening to know from the hon. Finance Islands—we are completely dependant on Minister that States’ share in the the Central Government for our shipping matter of budget allocation in the plan services and other things. I would like sector is being increased by 39 per cent. to know whether the case of Union territo- But allocations from the Centre to tribal ries like Andaman and Nicobar will be welfare sector, scheduled caste welfare considered favourably. sector, backward classes walfare sector and desert development sector have been SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY comparatively lower. In this connection, (K.rishnagiri) : Sir, I want a clarification I would like to know from the hon. in regard to bonus. Previously the Bonus Financc Minister whether he would write Act of 1965 was having the lower limit of to the States to allocate funds from their Rs. 750 and upper limit of own resources for these sectors 7 Rs. 1600. The trade unions in this country ware agitating and submitted lot of memo- SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA randa and had also taken up the matter (Jhabua) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, due to with the Prime Minister, Shri Rajivji .that insufficient rains this year, drinking water the lower quantum of Rs. 750 should be is not available in many cities and villages 333 Appropriation {Vote on CHAITRA 4,'1907 [SAKA) Appropriation (Vote 334 Account) Billy 1985 on Account) Bill, 19S5 in our State. I belong to Madhya Pradesh. has made its recommendations, a Group There are 45 districts in this State, out of Committee was formed which had given which 25 are drought affected. Conditions its recommendations and an Expert Com- of severe famine exist there due to non- mittee and also given some recommenda- availability of drinking water. I would tions. They will be procesed and we will like to khow whether the hon. Finance come up with a policy at the earliest. Minister would make some arrangement About the agricultural credit to be to provide drinking water in these raised to Rs* 200 crores, I cannot rise it districts ? because it is the public money. About the bus fare, it is being asked, ‘if subsidies are [English] being given, we could afford to leave it MR. CHAIRMAN : This question has untouched but why the rate is raised ?’ l already been raised. may point out that so far as the fares are concerned, it is the Corporations which MR. CHAIRMAN : Again it will decide. The autonomous body can take become a debate. You can ask only the the decision. clarifications, if any. About drought conditions in Karanataka ■ SHRI ASUTOSH LAW (Dum Dum) : and Andhra Pradesh. 1 think these are Sir, I would like to know whether the the discussions for deciding about the hon. Finance Minister will consider that special assistance with reference to the the scheme for pensioners will be at par special difficulties of the States. When the pari passu with the workers in case of the plans are discussed, the Planning Commis- company in liquidation. sion would discuss these things and some adjustments might be made. But immedi- [Translation} ately now I will not be able to say how SHRI G. BHOOPATHI : Rice at the much assistance would be given. rate of Rs. 2 per kg. for the poor in Andhra Pradesh. About bank loan interest that it should not be more than double, I think nobody [English\ asked that it should be doubled. One thing is necessary; that is, that it should be MR. CHAIRMAN : That point was paid in time. The other thing is that all already made. this money which we receive by way of {Interruptions) taxes go to the bank deposit as public money which will be loaned. But if it is SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP not returned, some day the bank will go SINGH : The first point made was that hunting after the debts. I must tell yery the public sector is being neglected and frankly that we have to tone up the allocation for the Visakhapatnam Steel recovery and it is the important thing for Plant has been low. I may assure the hon. banking system. Otherwise some other Member that the public sector is not poor people will be deprived if the money being neglect*id and the allocation for is not recovered in time. Visakhapatnam Steel Plant is in accor- dance with the resources available and in Now, a point raised was : why not tax the context of the resources we have. be levied on alcohol ? Now, there is About the textiles, a point was raised by industrial alcohol and there is potable Mr. Datta Samant as to when the policy alcohol, I think the hon. Member is referring to the potable alcohol. That is a would be announced. I could share his concern that sickness is the main problem State subjcct and we cannot consider that here- About bonus, it was Rs. 750 and in this industty. We have seen the two sides of the sickncss in Bombay and a now it is raised to Rs. 1600. The question was : why not we raise it to Rs. 25,000 ? very concerted policy keeping in view the I think this is what we have done at the balance between handloom, powerloom moment and we cannot consider raising and organised sector, employment of the the limit further. ’ workers, sickness and fibre policy will be decided. Now, the Textile Advisory Body Regarding our policy about sick indus- 335 Union Duties of Excise (Distb) MARCH 25, 1985 Additional duties of excise 336 Arndt. Bill, J985; Estate duty ({good o f special importance) (distb.) An^t.bill, J985 Arndt, bill^ 1985 tries, even in the Budget we have made an “That the Bill further to amend announcement about this, and that is the Union Duties of Excise (Distribu- that if the net worth is eroded by fifty tion) Act, 1979 be taken into considera- per cent, the company will have to call tion.'* the General Body, and only than it will have the right to manage the factory or THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the enterprise, and if it erodes hundred MINISTRY OF FINANCE ■ (SHRI per cent of net worth, then it will have JANARDHANA POOJARY) : On behalf to go and they will have no right to of Shri Vishwanath Pratap Singh, I beg manage it and we will have to take action to move : against those people, who for selfish pur- “That the Bill further to amend poses or surreptitiously make these the Estate Duty (Distribution) Act, industries sick... (Interruptions), 1962 be taken into consideration.” ' t As regards shipping facilities in certain I also beg to move* : Union Territories, this, I think, will come in the Demands of the Shipping Ministry. “That the Bill futher to amend the Additional Duties of Excise (Goods of SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA : But Special Importance) Act, 1957, be taken the finance has to be allocated by you. into consideration.** SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP AH those Bills which have been moved SINGH : But I cannot allocate finance in today arise out of the recomnfiendations of advance before it comes. the Eighth Finance Commission* The report of that Commission along with About the drinking water etc. these are Memorandum as to the action taken was schemes which come under the State laid on the Table of the House on 24th sector. General allocation is made to the July, 1984, as required under Article 281 States and the States take up these of the Constitution. schemes. In terms of article 280(3) on the About the pension being equivalent to Constitution, the Gommission is required the wages when the units are closed, I to make recommendations in regard to ;— have made a note of it and I will explain the position to the Member. (i) the distribution between the Union and the States of the net proceeds MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : to taxes which are to be, or may “That the Bill be passed.” be, divided between them and the allocation between tlie States of The motion was adopted. the respective shares of such proceeds; 16.33 hrs. UNION DUTIES OF EXCISE (ii) the principles governing the grants- (DISTRIBUTION) AMENDMENT BILL, in-aid under article 275 of the 1985; ESTATE DUTY (DISTRIBUTION) Constitution; and AMENDMENT BILL,1985; ADDITIONAL (iii) any other matter referred to the DUTIES OF EXCISE (GOODS OF Commission in the interests of SPECIAL IMPORTANCE) sound finance. » AMENDMENT BILL, 1985 The recommendations of the Commis- MR. CHAIRMAN : The House will sion are implemented in the case of now take up items Nos. 14, 15 and 16 income tax and grants-in-aid by an order together. of President, while those in the case of THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND Union duties of excise, additional duties COMMERCE AND SUPPLY (SHRI of excise and the estate duty are imple- VISHWANATH TRATAP SINGH) : I mented by Parliamentary legislation. The * beg to move : ______remaining recommendations are imple- ^ *Moved with the recommendation of the President. 337 Union Dufies of cxctse (Disth.) CBAITKX 4, 1907 (SAKA) Additional duties of 338 Antdt. bill 1985\ Estate duty excise (goods of special Im- {distb.) Admd. bill, 1985', portance) Admt.billf 1985 mented by executive orders. The three The total transfer of resources to the Bills whicli 1 have moved for considera- States under the recommendations of the tion are for giving effect through Parlia* Eighth Finance Commission as indicated mcntary legislation to the Government’s by the commission is Rs. 39,452 crores decision on the recommendations of the for the five year period 1984-89 as com-, Eighth Finance Commission contained in pared to the transfer of Rs. 20,843 crores the final report in regard to distribution envisaged by the Seventh Finance Com- of net proceeds of Union excise duties, mission over the preceding quinquenuium additional excise duties and Estate Duty 1979-84, involving a step up of about 89 on property other than agricultural land. per cent. The scheme of transfer confers a Before 1 deal with each of these three surplus of Rs. 26,775 crores on twelve Bills, I would like to say a few words States, On the other hand, grants-in-aid about the recommendations of the Eighth of Rs. 1691 crores have been recommended Finance Commission. Hon’ble merr.l ers to cover deficits of eleven States. Addi* are aware that the Eighth Finance Com- tional grants-in-aid have been recommen- mission was appointed by Presidents’s ded for the deficit States to provide for Order in June, 1982 to make recommen- sanction of dearness allowance for State dations for a period if five years 1984-85 Government employees on par with the to 1988-89. Central Government employees. Grants of Rs. 967.33 crores to seventeen States The Commission submitted an interm have been recommended for upgradation report for the year 1984-85 on 14th of standards of administration and for November 1983. The Government accep- tackling special problems. The Commission ted the recommendations of the Com- also recommended as grant-in-aid Centres’ mission as contained in the interm report contribution of Rs. 602 crores over and implemented these for the year 1984- the five year period 1984-89 representing 85. On 30 April 1984, the Commission half of the ‘margin money’ payable to all submitted its final report to the the 22 States for financing of relief President, covering the entire five year expenditure. period of 1984-85 to 1988-89. The Government decided to continue to adhere While the share of States in income to the recommendations of the Eighth tax has been retained at 85 per cent, Finance Commission made in the interm their share out of Union excise has been report for the year 1984-85 and to increased from 40 per cent to 45 per cent. implement the final report of the com- The extra 5 per cent of the States’ share mission for the four years 1985-86 to of Union excise is earmarked to 11 deficit 1988-89 only. States, to be distributed in proportion to The report of the Commission along their assessed deficits. For the first time, with the Explanatory Memorandum as to a uniform formula for distribution of the action taken thereon by the Govern- States’ share of Union excise and bulk of ment was placed taken Table of this income-tax has been recommended. The House on 24th July 1984. The reason for quantum of the annual compensatory non-acceptance of the final report of the grant in lieu of the tax on railway Commission for the year 1984-85 have passenger fares has been enhanced from been succinctly given in paragraph 4 of the Rs. 23 crores to Rs. 95 crores. Explanatory Memorandum. Debt relief of Rs. 2285.39 crores to The Report and the Government’s States through consolidation and re- decisions thereon were extensively debated scheduling of outstanding Central loans, in this august House on 8th and 9th and by way of write-off Is recommended August 1984. It is, therefore, needless for for the five-year period 1984-89. Besides, me to go into vorious aspects of the a realief of Rs. 117,08 crores by way of recommendations made by the Commission moratorium on repayment is recommended and Government’s decisions thereon. to be continued in respect of repayment However, I would like to highlight some of small savings loans in 1984-85. The of the important recommendations of the Commission adopted a normative appro- Commission. ach in the matter of assessment of receipts 339 Union Duties of Excise {Distb.) MA,RCR[ 25, HSS Additiona/duties o f excise 340 Arndt, billy 1985 ; estate duty {goods of special importance) (Distb.) Amdt. bill, 1985 Arndt, bill, 1985 and expenditures of both Central and these duties are being levied from 1957 State Governments, keeping in view (he with the consent of the State Govern- scope for better fiscal management, better ments, and are in lieu of the sales tax asset-maintenance and economy in expen- levied by them on these commodities. diture consistant with efficiency. It also The scheme provides for the distri- kept in view the need ensuring reasonable bution of the entire collections other returns from investments in irrigation and than the portion of the proceeds attribu- power projects, transport undertakings, table to Union Territories, among the industrial and commercial enterprises and States in accordance with the principles the like. recommended by the Finance Commission. The Eighth Finance Commission has With a view to reduce regional imbalances recommended that the proceeds of the betw^n the States, the Commission vested duties may be distributed among the its scheme of devolution with a redistribu- States on the basis of equal weightage to tive role through progressive devolution the State Domestic Product and popu- formula, based on inverse of per capita lation. Transfers ro the States on this income and distance from the highest per account during the four years 1985-86 to capita income-state. Interestingly, this 1988*89 are estimated to be about Rs. factor has been taken into account by the 3,318 crores. Commission even in the matter of debt relief to States. Apart from basic excise duties, additional excise duties and estate duty Now, let me give a brief resume of the for the distribution of which among the three Bills which 1 have moved today. States the three Bills have been moved The first Bill provides for sharing and to-day, States will also get 85% of the net distribution of basic excise duties. As proceeds of ineome tax under Article 270 stated earlier, the Eighth Finance Com- of the Constitution. It is estimated that mission has recommended that 45% of the States will get Rs. 5,706 crores over the excise-duties on all commodities the next four years. Besides, grants-in- should be paid to States during the aid of the order of Rs. 2,937 crores are period 1984-89. Of this, 40% are recom- also payable to States under Article 275 mended for distribution to all the twenty- of the Constitution over the next four two States, while the remaining 5% are years. All the statutory and legal earmarked for distribution exclusively to formalities will be completed before the the eleven deficit States in proportion to close of the current fiinancial year for their assessed deficits. The estimated transfer of tax shares and payment of transfer on this account to the Slates grants-in-aid to the States from 1985-86. during the four years 1985-86 to 1988-89 is of the order of Rs. 18,920 crores. There arc several other recommendations of the Commission which need to be The second Bill. viz. the Estate Duty implemented through executive orders. Amendment Bill seeks to formalize the These are at various stages of processing decision of the Government to adhere to in consultation with the concerned the recommendations of the Finance Ministries/Departments and other agencies. Commission contained in the intarim Two such recommendations to which I report for the current year. As mentioned would like to invite Hon. Members* in the Budget Speech, Estate Duty Act attention are regarding grants-in-aid to will be replaced in due course. Through States in lieu of the repealed tax on the passage of this Bill, the payments railway passanger fares and debt relief. made to the States in 1984-85 on provi- The Commission has enhanced the railway sional basis in terms of the interim report fares grants from Rs. 23.15 crores to 95 of the Commission, will be treated asfinal. crores per annum. This recommendation The third Bill seeks to give eflFect to has been referred for acceptance to the the recommendations for the distribution Railway Convention Committee of Parlia- of the net proceeds of the additional ment. As regards debt relief-and write off duties of excise levied on sugar, tobacco of Central loans, necessary provision has textile fabri(?s. As the Hoyse is a w ^ . been made in tbe Central budget and 341 Union Duties of Excise (Disth.) CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Additional duties of 342 Arndt, bil /, J9S5\ Estate duty excise (^goods of social im- (Disib.) Anidt. bill 1985 portance) Adnit, bili^ 19%5 formal orders will be issued in due course. given to Rajasthan. Rajasthan would not be getting any funds fram 1985 to 1989. Hon. Members may recall that the As per recommedations of the Eighth Government have decided to abolish the Finance Commission, the funds were to be surcharge on income-tax as stated already allocated in the first year, not after that. in the Budget speech. The Eighth Finance West Bengal’s share of five per cent in Commission made a recommendation to respect of special aid has been successively this efTect in its report. Thus, it may be reduced in 1985-86, 1986-87, 1987-88 and seen that the Government have implemen- 1988-89.' Jt was 19.081 per cent in 1984- ted this major recommendation at the first 85, 16.273 per ecnt in 1985; for 1986, it is available opportunity. Similarly, as recom- 11.934 per cent, for 1987, it is 7.935 per mended by the Finance Commission, the cent and for 1988 it has been kept at 0.5 Government have decided to increase the per cent. The share of excise duty for the stamp duty on bills of leading and letters State has been reduced whereas it has of credit, the proceeds of which will been increased in respect of other States. entirely accrue to the States. I am happy For 11 States, grant-in-aid was kept at to state that on the suggestion of the Rs. 2,200 crores. Out of it, the share for Finance Commission, the Government first year was Rs. 644.39 crores and West have also constituted an Expert Committee Bengal’s share in it was Rs. 142.11 crores to review the apportionment of cost of which was not given at all. It is repeatedly collection between income tax and corpo- said in the House that West Bengal draws ration tax. overdrafts. This is true. But, at the same In conclusion, may T reiterate our time, you should remember that the total Government’s commitment to place the overdrafts come to Rs. 215 crores whereas Union-Statcs’ financial relations on an the amount which was not given in the even keel in order that balanced regional first year was Rs. 325 crores. Since you development is promoted as an integral did not allocate this amount, we had to part of the overall national growth. Our take overdraft worth Rs. 215 crores. If decisions on the recommendations of the this overdraft is adjusted against this Finance Commission reflect our firm amount, you owe some money to us. Our commitment to the objective of harmonious friends from West Bengal on that side federal fiscal reductions which is an make much hue and cry about the essential prerequisite for accelerated and overdraft...... {Interruptions). balanced economic growth. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS [Translation} MUNSHI (Howrah) : We make sugges> tions only. SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN (Murshidabab) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to oppose all these three Bills, The report SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN : of the 8th Finance Commission was What I want to say is that if this amount presented in the House on 24th July, 1984. of Rs. 325 crores, which has been withheld It contained recommendations for the is adjusted against Rs. 215 crores, our period from 1984 to 1989, The Central Government would get Rs. 110 crorc. Government with held the recommenda- tions for 1984 without consulting the Stale SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS Governments. As a result thereof, none MUNSHI : If you provide work to the of the States could get 40 per ccnt share poor and do not indulge in irregularities, Of excise duty earmarked for 22 States. I will extend my full support to you...... During this year. West Bengal had a total {Interruptions). deficit of Rs. 325 crores. You have also withheld the separate allocation of 5 per [English] cent for 11 Stales as provided in the final report. Vt'csI Bengal’s share in it for 1984- MR. CHAIRMAN ; No side talk 85 is 19.081 per cent, which comes to please. {Interruptions) If there is going to about Rs. 90 crores. Rajasthan’s share be side talk, that wi not from part of the was 1.940 per cent; even this has not been record. (Jnterrupti ons), 343 Union Duties of Excise {Distb.) MARCH 25, 1985 Additional duties of excise 344 Admt. Bill, i985\ Estate duty (goods of special im- i^Distb.) Admt. Bill, 1985; portance) Admt, Bill, J985 \Translation] this would increase the quofa of the States SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN : from 35 per cent to 39 per cent. This is Mr. Chairman, Sir, just now, an hon. only a myth, because the amount which had Member from West Bengal has said that been kept pending with the Central Govern- he would extend his support. ment for the past year out of the increased quota, had deprived the States from [English] implementing many of the developmental activities. Thus the act of the Finance PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE Minister or the previous Government in (Rajapur) : For all Members of West keeping over these Rs. 2000 crores, Bengal, let there be a third chamber. amounted to some discrimination to the State. So, the Finance Minister taking [Translation^ credit that he has increased the share of the State Governments by 39 per cent is SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN : not correct and he does not deserve any When they talk of helping us, I want to credit for it. . remind them that per capita income of SHRI JANARDHANA FOOJARY : West Bengal is more then the All India Some of the points raised by the hon. average. Whereas the per copita national Members, who contributed their views, income is 13.40, the per capita income in are out of the purview of these Bills. In West Bengal has risen to 16.06 per cent. fact, one point that has been made is that There is no misuse of money there...... the Finance Commission has not taken in {Interruptions)...... It is a fact. You have to consideration all that aspect. withheld grant-in-aid and share of railway Here is a body which is a statutory freight due to West Bengal for the first body, an independent body, and this year. 1 would request you on behalf of consists of experts. This body has recom- my State to release that money. At the mended the share that has to flow from same time, I want to say that the Estate the Central Government. Here I may tell, Duty abolished by you was the States’ for the information of the hon. Member share. Now, the abolition of this duty, that so far as the Central Government is is bound to be reflected in some way in concerned, their resources are - also sub- the State. In these circumstances, I would jected to vigorous test and scrutiny and suggest to the Central Government that this body has acted as an independent, the recommendations of the Eighth Finance impartial body. This body has not taken Commission for 1984-89 should be accep- any side and it has considered all the ted in toto and the amendments made by implications, all the aspects of the economy the Government should be withdrawn. and the available resources, and then With these words, I resume my seat. they have given the recommendation SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY which is a judicious recommendation. (Hindupur) : The Eighth Finance Commis- Here I can say that this Report has been discussed thoroughly in this House last sion’s Report was submitted to Parliament year. Not only the hon. Members from as early as in 1984 itself, immediately after this side but from the other side have the Budget proposals were passed. But the also contributed to the debate and all the Central Government kept pending allot- points raised by the hon. Members have ment to the State a sum of Rs. 2000 been answered and have also been publi- crorcs. So, the States were deprived of shed outside the House. The State this amount for a period of one full year. Governments also know about it. So, I The Central Government kept this amount need not add anything more so far as the with it for the whole year and now. they points raised here today are concerned. are coming forward with these allotments. Had the States got this sum a year ahead Keeping in view the relationship between as per the recommendation of the Commis- the States and the Centre, the States have sion, they would have gone for many more also got a duty to tap the resources but developmental schcmes. The Finance Mini- I am told, and in this House also it is said, ster was very very eloquent in saying that that there is a deficit so far as the 345 Union Duties of Excise CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Estate Duty {Disth.) 346 (Disib.) Admt. Bill Adnit. Bill Karnataka Government is concerned, “That Clause 1, the Enacting there is a defi.cit so far as the West Formula and the Title stand part of Bengal Government is concerned and so the Bill.” far as Andhra Pradesh Government is concerned, no new taxes have been levied The motion was adopted. this year. Here, I w'ant to make it very Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and clear that the State Governments should the Title were added to the Bill. know that they have also got the responsi- bility to tap the resources. It is not the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The duty of the Central Government alone. Minister may now move that the Bill be But they do not want to become un- passed, popular, they only want the Central Government to become unpopular. They THRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; do not want to levy any taxes, they do Sir, I beg to move. not want to create any misunderstanding, “That the Bill, be pasted.” they went to be very popular among the people of their State. But this is not the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; Motion case with the Central Government. Central moved : Government is an agency which has got more responsibility and, so* they have “That the Bill, be passed.” raised resources. Therefore, it is the duty The motion was adopted. of the State Governments also to raise resources. ESTATE DUTY (DISTRIBUTION) 17.02 hrs. AMENDMENT BILL (Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The I do not want to add anything question is : more as I have covered all the points in my opening speech. I have also mentioned “That the Bill further to amend about the share of the States and a the Estate Duty (Distribution) Act, detailed spacch has been given in the 1962, be taken into consideration.** beginning itself. So, I commend the Bill The moiton was adopted. for the consideration of the House. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We will MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The now take up clause by clause considera- question is : tion. The question is : “That the Bill further to amend “That clauses 2 and 3 stand part the Union Duties of Excise (Distri- of the Bill.” bution) Act, 1979, be taken into consi- deration.” ^ The motion was adopted. The motion was adopted. Clauses 2 and 3 were added the Biil. UNION DUTIES OF EXCISE (DISTRI- Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and BUTION) AMENDMENT BILL the Title were added to the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The House will now take up Clause by Clause SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY ; consideration of the Bill. The question is : I beg to move : “That Clauses 2 to 4 stand part “That the Bill be passed.” of the Bill.” MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The The motion was adopted. question is : Clauses 2 to 4 were added to the Bill. “That the Bill be passed.” MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now the The motion was adopted. question is s 347 Compulsory Deposit Scheme MARCH 25, 1985 Amendment BillJ9H5 ilncome-Tax Payers) ADDITIONAL DUTIES OF EXCISE of interest, which will otherwise fall due (GOODS OF SPECIAL IMPORTANCE) in the financial year 1985-86. AMENDMENT BILL As stated by the Finance Minister in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The the budget spcech, the scheme of compul- question is : sory deposit by income-tax payers is being discontinued from 1st April 1985. “That the Bill further to amend This is being done in fulfilment of the the Additional Duties of Excise promise made in our Election Manifesto. (Goods of Special Importance) 1957, However, keeping in view the overal 1 be taken into consideration.” ways and means position, it is considered The motion was adopted. desirable to provide that repayment of instalment in respect of earlier deposits MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We will and payment of interest due in the now take up clause by clause considera- financial year 1985-86 should be post- tion. The question is : poned by one year. “That clauses 2 and 3 stand part I would like to bring to the notice 'of of the Bill. the hon. Members two important points. The motion was adopted. Firstly, the unpaid amounts will continue to earn interest. Secondly, the proposal Clauses 2 and 3 were added to the Bill. contained in the Bill does not aflfect the Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and other provisions of the Compulsory the Title were added to the BUI. Deposit Scheme (Income-tax Payers) Act, 1974 relating to the repayment of depo- SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY : I sits in cases of extreme hardship, or in beg to move : ■ cases of persons attaining the age of 65 “That the Bill be passed.” years. The amounts which would other- wise fall due for payment in the financial MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The year 1985-86 will be paid with interest in question is : the financial year 1986-87. “That the Bill be passed.” Considering the relief extended to the income-tax payers by way of discounti- The motion was adopted.] nuance of the requirement of making deposits as well as the reduction in the income-tax rates, I hope that the 17.08 hrs. sacrifice which I am asking for may not cause much inconvenience. COMPULSORY DEPOSIT SCHEME (INCOME-TAX PAYERS) Sir, I trust that this Bill will rcceive AMENDMENT BILL, 1985 the support of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Motion MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI moved : JANARDHANA POOJARY) : I beg to “That the Bill further to amend move* : the Compulsory Deposit Scheme “That the Bill farther to amend (Income-tax Payers) Act, 1974, be taken the Compulsory Deposit Seheme into consideration.” (Income-tax Payers) Act, 1974, be taken into consideration.” DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay South Central) : Sir, considering the fact This short and simple Bill seeks to that the workers are opposed to the amend the Compulsory Deposit Seheme Compulsory Deposit Scheme, the abolition (Income-tax Payers) Act, 1974 with a of this scheme is a very good move. But, view to iTOstponding by one year the while taking the money from the workmen, repayment of instalment and the payment the Government had made a commitment ♦Moved with the recommendation of the President. 349 Compulsory Deposit Scheme CHAITRA 4, 1907 {SAKA) Amendment Bill, 1985 350 {Income-Tax Payers) and assured the workers that the money There is some reason for postponing will be repaid on a particular day. The the repayment. There is constraint on our postponement of the payment may not resources. When the payment of instal- cause serious hardship, but lam seriously ments is postponed, it will earn seme concerned because this is a Government interest and there will be some interest on of the people and it has made a certain interest. The Hon. Member, as the leader commitment to the people while accepting of the labour class knows we have to the money. meet the requirements of the weaker sections. We have started welfare schemes That is a very important point, because and we have to look after our defence, by this you arc collecting money from the maintain our development activities. The public and the workers. You are collecting Hon. Member knows when we are money from the public in so many ways. giving so many concessions to the people, Even the State Governments are collecting the people will not mind waiting for money by way of long-term deposits and another year. Bhort-teim deposits. And whatever dates are given for repayment, so far as my MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The knowledge does, the Government has question is : always honoured those dates since “That the Bill further to amend Independence. While cancelling such a the Compulsory Deposit Scheme scheme, if you make a little black-spot by (Income-Tax Payers) Act, 1974, be delaying its payment by one year, the taken into consideration.” Government will lose m.uch on its credi- The motion was adopted. bility and by making timely payment it will not lose much monetarily. And if the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The House Government makes these payments now will now take up clause-by-clause conside- and takes loans from the Banks, 1 think ration of the Bill. the Government will be more benefited. Therefore, I would request the Govern- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The ment that instead of making this one-year question is : delay for payment, if there is a shortage “That Clause 2 stands part of the of money, you take a loan from the banks. Bill.” Interest rate payable to the public will be saved. The interest charged by the The motion was adopted. banks will be more or less equal. So, by Clause 2 was added to the Bill. this way you will honour the commitment made to the middle class and educated MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The class of people. And subsequently if the question is : Government asks money from the public, “That clause 1, the Enacting there will be no hesitation on their part. Formula and the Title stand part of the Therefore, I say that your commitment Bill.” made to the people should be honoured. The motion was adopted. Therefore, I again request the Govern- ment to withdraw this Bill and see that Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the money is repaid immediately. In case the Title were added to the Bill. of shortage of money you can lake loans THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE from the banks and other institutions. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY) : I beg to SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: The move : Hon. Member has made a point, but here we have to take into consideration other “That the Bill be passed.” points also. The Government has reduced MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER ; The the taxes on income and the people will question is : get benefit of these reduction in taxes. “That the Bill be passed ” Moreover this CDS scheme itself if being abolished. That means they need not pay The motion was adopted. ^his contfibytion next year. 351 Punjab Budget^ J985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 Punjab Budget, 1985-86 352 17.14 hrs. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The point is, whichever point you want to raise you STATUTORY RESOLUTION Rc. can raise during the coursc of your speech. CONTINUANCE OF PROCLAMATION You can speak either on Resolution or IN RESPECT OF THE STATE OF Bill or both. You can speak on anything PUNJAB covered in these items. NATIONAL SECURITY (AMENDMENT) BILL SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : As far as the Bill is concerned, it is a difTerent PUNJAB BUDGET, 1985-86-GENERAL matter. But is the Minister not to move DISCUSSION the resolution : jSrst ? DEMANDS FOR GRANTS ON ACCOUNT (PUNJAB), 1985-86, THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AND AFFAIRS (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT) : SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR Let him move - the Statutory Resolution GRANTS (PUNJAB), 1984-85 regarding Proclamation first. Items up to 22 may be taken up together. The Govern- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We now ment have no objection, if the statutory take up items 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 resolution is taken up separately. Wo together. have absolutely no objection. THE MINISTER OF HOME MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It was AFFAIRS (SHRI S. B. CHAV AN) : 1 beg discussed in the Business Advisory Com- to move : mittee and it was decided that all the “That this House approves the items might be taken up together. And continuance in force of the Procla- the time allotted is 3 hours. That is why mation, dated October 6, 1983 in resp^t all the items have been taken up together. of the State of Punjab, issued under You could have pointed this out in the article 365 of the Constitution by the Business Advisory Committee. President, for a further period of six months will, effect from April 6, SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT : In all fairness, 1985.’’ I must point out that the Business Ad- visory Committee considered this matter Sir, as the House would be aware,.. and the hon. Deputy Speaker is right MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You can that the Business Advisory Committee move the Bill also. . decided that all these matters would be taken up together and three hours would SHRI S. M. BHATTAM be devoted to them. That was the decision (Visakhapatnam) : The National Security of the Business Advisory Committee. (Amendment) Bill is a different one. This is regarding Proclamation. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It was decided. It was adopted by the House. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Earlier it You are now going back. has been agreed that item Nos. 18 to 22 may be discussed together. That is why SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : We are not I announced that these items would be going back. (Interruptions.) The question discussed together. These are all relating is only of procedural aspect which I am to Punjab. pointing out. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : But the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You Statutory Resolution is to be discussed could have told that when we had adopted separately. this report of the BRC. You could have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You will pointed out at that sta^. Allotted time be discussing everything. for discussion will be three hours. They were all clubbcd together. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : There must be some rationale or some pr-ocedure. You SHRI R. P. DAS (Krishnagar) : This always insist on some procedural aspects. Resolution can be discussed separately. 353 Punjab BidfietJ985-B6 C U kll'R h A, m i{S A K A ) Punjab Budget, 1985-86 354 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You can The idea of the Business Advisory Com- raise the matter and you can focus on the mittee was that within 3 hours all these Resolution when you speak. These items three items should be completed. are more or less related to Punjab. -That is why, we have clubbed together. When SHRI S. M. BHATTAM ; The discus- the Minister is replying, he will reply to sion should be separate. everything definitely. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : There may be a combined discussion on the Statutory SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT : The question Resolution approving the Proclamation is that within three hours, the whole issued by the President in respect of a State thing has to be finished. The procedure of and a Bill for the delegation of legislative each item will have to be followed. Every powers of the State. There is a provision like item will be put before the House formally that. We will take up these items separately and approved but within a period of three at the time of voting. For the future, ihe hours. feelings of the members will be conveyed MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : That is to the Business Advisory Committee. We why we are taking oil the items together. will see. We are discussing all the items together. The hon. Minister may also move the (Jnt err upt ions.) Bill listed at item No. 19, SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : If this SHRI S. B. CHAV AN : Sir, I beg to becomes a precedent and if things are move : done in the same fashion in future also, I think it will lead us to certain complica- “That the Bill further to amend tions. That is not being appreciated. We the National Security Act, 1980, in its have no objection personally. application to the State of Punjab and the Union territory of chandigavh, be Technically, it is a procedural lapse, a taken into consideration.” serious lapse. How can you club a Statutory Resolution, a Bill and the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Resolution Budget, all the three items, together to be moved ; discussed in the House ? Has it been done “That this House approves the before at any time ? Is there any such continuance in force of the Proclama- precedent in the past ? tion, dated October 6, 1983 in respect MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I may of the State of Punjab, issued under tell the hon. Members that previously article 356 of the Constitution by the also there have been so many such President, for a further period of six instances where these items have been months with effect from April 6, 1985.” taken up and discussed together in the Motion moved : House. But at the time of taking vote, we take up ever>' item separately. This can be “That the Bill further to amend conveyed to the Business Advisory Com- the National Security Act, 1980, in its mittee for the future. This may be kept application to the State of Punjab and in view for tne future. You are members the Union territorry of Chandigarh, be of the Business Advisory Committee. We taken into consideration.*’ will see it next time. Motions moved : SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : You have to “That the respective sums not give a ruling. exceeding the amounts on Revenue MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I will put Account and Capital Account shown in it before the Business Advisory Committee. the third column of the Order Paper be I will convey the feelings of the hon. granted to the President, out of the Consolidated Fund of the State of Members to the B.A.C. Punjab, on account for or towards SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT : Procedurally, defraying the charges during the year each item is to be taken up separately. ending On the 31st day of March, 1986 3S5 Punjab B u d g e J 985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 Punjab Budget, 1985-86 351 in rcspect of the heads of demands of Punjab to defray the charges that entered in the second column thereof will come in course of payment during against I>eniands 1 to 41.” the year ending the 31st day of March, 1985 in respect of heads of demands “That the respective Supplement- entered in the second column thereof ary sums not exceeding the amounts on against ; Revenue Account and Capital Account shown in the third column of the Order Demand Nos. 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, Paper be granted to the President out 16, 17. 18, 19. 20, 21, 22, 23. 25, 28, 29, of the Consolidated Fund of the State 31, 32. 34, 35, 36, 38 and 40.” L/st of Demands for Grants on account {Punjab) for 1985-86 submitted to the Vote of the Lok Sabha Demand No. Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Grant on account to be submitted to the Vote of the House 1 2 3 Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. 1. State Legislature 58,91,000 2. Council of Ministers 42,94,000 3. Administration of Justice 2,80,68,000 ■ ■ • 4. Elections 61,40,000 • • • 5. Revenue 7,54,37,000 • • f 6. Excise and Taxation 3,24,10,000 ■ • ■ 7. Finance 41,58.33.000 • • • 8. Public Service Commission 10,21,000 9. Civil Secretariat 2,74,51,000 « • # 10. District Administration 4.01,19,000 11. Police 28,00,94,000 t • • 12. Jails 2,54,17,000 13. Stationery and Printing 2,26,80,000 14,20,000 14. Miscellaneous Services 3,22,80,000 15. Rehabilitation, Relief and Resettlement 6,37,000 16. Education 1,11,13,33,000 • « • 17. Technical Education, Science and Tcchnolegy 1,78,62,000 28,00,000 18, Medical and Public Health 43,56,27,000 50.000 19. Housing and Urban Development 1,32,21,000 6,02,80,000 ?0. Information and Publicity 1,28,51,000 11* 357 Punjab BuJgetJ985-86 CB.klTKS. 19Q7 {SAKA) Punjab Budget, 1985-86 358 1 2 3 21. Tourism and Cultural Affairs 45,29,000 10,00,000 22. Labour, Employment and Industrial Training 4,92,72,000 8,52,000 23. Social Security and Welfare 14,77,16,000 37,50,000 24. Planning and Statistics 87,15,000 • ■ • 25. Co-operation 4,73,20,000 8,55,14,000 26. Agriculture 20,45,08,000 2,05,90,000 27. Soil and Water Conservatian 1,85,17,000 « « • 28. Food 1,01,30,000 4,57,44,20,000 29. Animal Husbandry 6,57,88,000 • * » 30. Dairy Development 33,46,000 • • • 31. Fisheries 56,28,000 • • • • 32. Forest 8,56,06,000 4,50,000 33. Community Devolopment 28,70,88,000 • • • 34. Industries 5,84,30,000 3,94,00,000 .35. Civil Aviation 32,27,000 2,50,000 36. Roads and Bridges 12,18,30,000 23,27,50,000 37. Road Transport ’ 37,27,82,000 6,00,00,000 38. Multipurpose River Projects 6,75,29,000 20,81,80,000 39. Irrigation, Drainage and Flood Control 34,42,86.000 27,03,37,000 40. Buildings 30,01,67,000 9,15,98,000 41. Loans and Advances by the State Government f • • 1,31,37,69,000 List of Supplementary Demands for Grants {Punjab) for 1984-85 submitted to the vote of the Lok Sabha * No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Demand Grant to be submitted to the Vote of the House 1 3 ' 3 Revenue Cttpilal Rs. Rs. 3. Administration of Justica 87,53,000 5. Revenue 2,59,25,000 7. Finance 9,64.08,000 359 Punjab Budget, J985-86 MARCH 25, 1985 Put)ab Bulget, /955-S5 360 9. Civil Secretariat 54,42,000 • • • 10. District Administration 27,80,000 « • • 11. Police 6,61,07,000 • • • _ 16. Education 22,35,57,000 « ■ * 17. Technical Education, Science and Technology 75,04,000 • • • 18. Medical and Public Health 3,27,64,000 ■ • • 19. Housing and Urban Development 23,42,000 ■ • • 20. Information and Publicity 20,82,000 • ft « 21. Tourism and Cultural Affairs 1,73,000 • • • 22. Labour, Employment and Industrial Training 58,74,000 • • « Z3. Social Security and Welfare 34,96,000 25. Co-operation 49,88.000 • • • 28. Food 31,54,000 29. Animal Husbandary 12,08,000 « • ft 31. Fisheries 4,99,000 • ft • 32. Forest 9,21,000 ft • • 34. Industries 10,31,000 4,72.000 35. Civil Aviation 10,60,000 ft « ■ 36. Roads and Bridges * • • 1,20,00,000 38. Multipurpose River Projects 40,64,000 2,66,61,000 40. Buildings 1,63,91,000 11,80,000 SHRI S. B. CHAV AN : Sir, as the Proclamation was to expire on October 5, House is aware, in view of the prevailing 1984. The situation in the State continued situation in Punjab, the Proclamation under to be uncertain and it became necessary article 356 of the Constitution in relation to extend the term of the President’s rule. to the State of Punjab was issued on As according to the then existing Constitu- October 6, 1983 on the recommendatioii tional provisions, the Proclamation could of the Governor and the State Legislative not be continuded beyond the period of Assembly was kept under suspended one year. Article 356(5) of the Constitu- animation. tion was amended by the Constitution (Fortyeighth) Amendment Act, 1984 for The Proclamation issued by the President further continuance of the Proclamation was to continue up to April 5, 1984. issued on October 6, 1984 in respect of However, as there was no sign of improve- the state of Punjab up to a maximum ment in the situation, the Proclamation period of two years. continued for a further period of sbt months from April 6, 1984 with the Consequently, the term of the Proclama- approval of Parliament. The term of the tion was extended with the approval of 361 Piwjah Btuigc^t,m5M CHAITRA 4, 1907 p W /1 ) Punjab Budget J98S.M 362 parliament for a further Period of six not exceeding six months v/ithout obtaining months with elTcct from October 6, 1984. the opinion of the Advisory Board. The Proclamation ceases to be in forc^ after April 5, 1985. The Government are These provisions are of a temporary constantly reviewing the situation in Punjab nature as they apply at present only in and we wish that'an elected Government the case of persons detained before 3rd would take office as soon as the situation April, 1985. so Permits. Though the situation in the Hon. Members are aware of the situa- State has improved during the Past few tion in the State and I, therefore, do not months, yet the extremist elements consider it necessary to dwell any further continue to indulge in sporadic acts of on it. The circumstances which had violence and anti-national activities. The necessitated the insertion of Section 14A authorities are vigilant and it will take in the Act in 1984 by and large continue some time more before complete normalcy to exist. To enable the authorities to is restored in the State. immobilise anti-national and anti-social As the hon. Members are aware, a elements in the disturbed areas of Punjab Cabinet Sub-Committee consisting of and Chandigarh, it is necessary to amend three senior Ministers which has been the provisions of Section 14A of the Act formed to study the Punjab problem and so as to bring within the p ui-view persons to look at the alternatives for a peaceful who may be detained on or after 3rd April, settlement as early as possible is currently 1985 but before 3rd April, 1986. looking into various aspects of the matter. The Bill seeks to amend National A number of Akali leaders have been Security Act, 1980 accordingly. I may recently released in furtherance of the above assure the August House that the Bill is objective. primarily meant to check the activities of Tt is hoped that this gesture on the part the anti-national, anti-social and commu- of the Government will lead to the nal elements in the disturbed areas. creation of a more congenial atmosphere SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : I request in the State and will evoke positive to give some statistics. response from Akali leadership. However, the situation needs to be closely watched. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now Shri Having regard to all the aforesaid S. M, Bhattam will speak. You can speak circumstances and considerations, it is after Shir S. M. Bhattam speaks. necessary to continue President’s rule in Punjab for a further period of six months SHRI C. JANGA REDDY : When after the expiry of the present term. Government is moving motion through a Bill, they have to explain. They can I may reiterate Government’s intention give statistics of how many persons are for that President’s rule will not be conti- killed. nued even for a day beyond what would be absolutely necessary. SHRI S. B. CHAVAN : If the hon. Member cared to listen to the speech I have In view of the position explained, I made, he would have been satisfied on the request the hon. House to approve this point that he is raising. If he wants any resolution. statistical information, I have the full About the second one, as the House is statistical information with me. I can give aware, the National Security Act, 1980 in the information provided I must know its application to the disturbed areas of what kind of information he wants. If you Punjab and Union Territory of Chandigarh are interested in knowing what is the total was amended in 19tS4. The provision of number of deaths and other crimes Section 14A as inserted in the National committed during 1984-85, I am prepared Security Act, 1980 specifies the circums- to give. But you must raise youre point. tances under which and the classes of cases in which persons may be detained MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You can for periods longer than three nioolhs but raise whatever point you want. 36^ Punjab Budget, 1985-86 MARCH 25, J985 Punjab Budget^ 1985^86 364 SHRI S. B. CHAV AN : From statistics Congress Parliamentary Party and outside regarding incidents due to extremist in Punjab, but not in this House so far. activities during the period 1-1-84 to.... This is the status to which this House is reduced and which I would like to bring SHRI RAJ MANGAL PANDE particularly to your notice. Sir, because (Deoria) : 1 am on a point of order. This you arc presiding over an august body, is the first* time in a parliamentary the honour and prestige of which you will democracy that I am hearing that the have to uphold and maintain. I tried- to aims and objects of the Bill have not been bring it up in some form or the other for explained. If the hon. Members want to discussion, but all avenues were blockcd. have any information, it will be through I gave noticc of a Short Notice Question, the debate. Here is a paculiar situation. I gave notice of a Calling-Attention I do not know what procedure you have Motion, we wanted a separate discussion adopted. on the Punjab issue, but none of these things came up before the House. Now the MR. DEPUrV SPEAKER : That is deadlock continues, the stalemate continues, what I explained to the Members. But the and the Minister has been forced to come Minister has come forward to furnish the up before the House by virtue of efflux of figures. I cannot stop him. time—because the proclamation is bound SHRI S. B. CHAV AN : I wanted to to lapse in the month of April. That is cut short the entire discussion which was how the House is seized of this matter. It going on. I am giving these statistics is for the first time in the recent times regarding incidents due to extremist that this has come up before the House. It activities during the peried 1-1-1984 to is indeed a very sad state of affairs, and 30-6-1984 : murders-number of incidents I make this observation with a heavy 220, number killed 273, persons injured heart. 217, explosions— 66, number of persons 1 would, at the same time, like to bring killed 10, persons injured 107; damage or to your kind notice that any important arson— 137, persons injured 3; others 404» decision pertaining to the policies must number of persons killed 77, number of be made, while the Parliament is in session, persons injured 132; the total for this only on the floor of the House and not period comes tonumber of persons elsewhere. But that practice is not kept killed 360 and number of persons injured up, and it is very unfortunate. If we are 459. not to look to the Chair, who else will Total from 1-7-1984 to 28-2-1985: safeguard and uphold the rights of the murders—total number of incidents 53, House and the prestige of the House ? number killed 38, persons injured 44; Therefore, I would request you once again to reconsider whether it is appropriate at explosions—total number is 23, number killed 5, persons injured 74; arson— 63, all for a Minister—he will have to be person injured 1; others— total number pulled up however high-placed he may be, of incidents 360, number killed 38 and including the Prime Minister— to make a persons injured 33. speech pertaining to matters of important policies outside the House and not inside SHRI S. M. BHATTAM : During to the House. The papers continuously for course of some discussion previously in 3 to 4 days talked of a series of econo- Rajya SaUha, I do remember very well mic measures going to be announced by the various points made out by the hon. the Prime Minister during his ensuing Minister for Home while answering to the visit to Punjab and the nature of the various questions raised by some of the measures are also indicated. That being Members at that time. Similarly on diffe- so and when it is a matter of public rent occasions the question croppcd up discussion and at the ministerial level and during the discussion in the Congress even at the party level the matter was Parliamentary Party and later outside in being discussed, we are kept in the dark and Punjab also when the Prime Minister we are not aware of the situation. What I ' visited Punjab. I would like, at the outset, mean to say is that the House is not at all to say that this matter was discussed both taken into confidence. It is unfortunate. I in the Upper House and also in the am not speaking in terms of the Opposition 365 Punjab Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4. 1907 Punjab Budget J 985-86 366 being taken into confidence and holding been plaguing this country for the Iasi 3 discussion with the Opposition parties. I years. So, now how can negotiations take am not at that point at the moment. The place? Who should take the initiative ? What House os such should be taken into first gesture should they make ? No confidence. They should divulge the stand doubt the Coveinment han taken the first which they want to take and which they step- namely, the release of Akali leaders. have taken now. They should from time Some leaders are still behind the bars. They to time place before the House the develop- think a conducive atmosphere has been ing situation. created by such release. 1 do admit and I do congratulate the Government for having 1 do remember the Government has released them and for seriously attempt- constituted a Cabinet Sub-committee. ing to achieve a solution to the Punjab What has happened to that Sub- problem. But after releasing seme leaders, Committee ? How many times has it met ? vhy not follow it up ? Why not releasing What are the decisions taken by that the rest of the people ? Why should they committee ? It was reported sometime still rot in jails ? By doing this thing if back in the Press that while the hon. the Government think that any negotia- Minister giving a reply in the other House tions will yield any fruitful results, my has said that this Committee has decided apprehension is that will not contribute to visit Punjab and collect public opinion to any successful negotiated settlement so on various issues concerning the State of long as they keep some people behind Punjab. What has happened to that pro- the bars and want to continue negotiations posal ? Is it a fact-finding committee ? Or with other sections of the people who are ar« they just beating about the bush released. There is no half-way house. again ? On what matters do they want to Either you release them lock, stock and collect evidence ? Are they going to collect barrel or the entire situation remains as evidence from all and sundry ? What it is. Therefore, there is no prospect of cxactly are they meant to do ? We are not any congenial atmosphere for the purpose exactly aware of it. of conducting negotiations. This is my Instead of dilating on that point, I first point. would request the hon. Minister to enlighten the House as to what specific steps which It is reported in the Press that the the Committee or the Sub-Committee has Prime Minister while addressing the taken so far and what is the nature of in- Congress Parliamentary Party had stated quiry they want to conduct during the that Government may also consider and proposed visit when it takes place and is, in fact, considering actually the ques- if at all it takes place ? Are they going to tion of releasing the rest of the leaders. extend invitations to various political Of course, the reply of the hon. Home parties and or those people who Minister when asked on this point in the come voluntarily when they declare their Raiya Sabha was different. He said that intention to visit ? What is the there are certain cases against some per- operandi they want to adopt ? All these sons and as long as those cases are things will have to be made very clear. pending the Government will not be able It is redundant, it is superfluous. Such a to move in the matter. That was the visit will not yield anything tangible and position he took the other day when he substantial and it will not yield anything was replying on the Floor of Rajya Sabha. beneficial for the purpose of achieving any- Subsequently the Prime Minister is credited thing concrete. This is my initial apprehen- to have said that he is actually consider- sion which I am only mentioning. I am not ing the question of release of leaders ? criticising. I am not saying that you do So, where do we stand now ? What is rhe not do that. My apprehension is that it final position with i*egard to other leaders ? will not at ali yield any benefit. Then are If their release really contributed to (he you contemplating and going in for a congenial atmosphere should we noi follow negotiated setllemcnt or something else you it up so that a more congenial almosplicre have in mind ? A negotiated settlement for the purposes of achieving satisfactory alone can bring about a peaceful solution and peaceful solution is rcached at the to the vexed problem of Punjab which has earieicst ? 367 Punjab Budget, 1985.86 MARCH 25, 1985 Punjab Budget, 1985-86 368 The Prime Minister is also credited to one and the country is one and it cannot have said a number of times that he hopes be disintegrated, it cannot be bifurcated to achieve a solution to Punjab very soon. and there can be no divisive forces and That is what he has said ? I am very happy secessionist forces to which we will have about it that he is determined to achieve to bow. Our party will not agree to this a solution. Not only this he said for that solution at all and we will not contribute purpose if necessary an inquiry would be to this. So, it is very good that the Prime made into the orgy of violence both in Minister has stated very clearly and cate- New Delhi and other places after the gorically that he is prepared not to raise assassination of the late Prime Minister, and emphasise the question of withdrawal Shrimati Indira Gandhi. This appeared in of Anandpur Sahib Resolution for the the weekly Sunday when its correspondent purpose of arriving at a solution. It is interviewed the Prime Minister. Laicr the very good that he has said this and there- Home Minister said provided this will fore having said this, he has said one help achieve a composite solution to the thing more. He is also prepared to with- problem then we will be prepared to draw the army. Of course, this was contra- consider this. Sir. the point is that the govern- dicted, different versions appeared in the ment are prepared to consider the question press. One set of office-bearers gave one of instituting an inquiry into the orgy of version and another set of office bearers violence which has shaken both Delhi and gave different versions. He is prepared to other parts of the country after the withdraw the army and restore normalcy assassination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi, there and see that democratically elected I think, this step is very necessary and body comes to office, democracy is restored essential with a view to give confidence. and elected representatives take full charge It is a question of crisis of confidence. of the situation in Punjab. Sir, the inten- The mutual misunderstanding and all this tions are very good, motive is very gord should disappear, Afterali supposing they the approach is basically very souii. form a Ministry you will not be able to That being so, what is the next ste^ ignore them. After ail they are valiant Having said all this, what is the next ^ freedom fighters who contributed to the which you are going to take in furthere freedom of this countr>\ We will not be of the goal which you are having in mi able to hoodwink them or continue to Nothing is clear in the Statutory Resc .s- permanently alienate iheir sympathies. If ■ tion. The Minister wants the extension government institues a judicial inquiry, I for six months, hut the Bill—NSA—moved hope it will certainly promote a better fpr consideration and for passing is for understanding and necessarily help expedite extension for one year. Why ? And -cause reaching a proper solution to the problem, he himself is not sure of what"is go g to of Punjab. The government will have to be done, let him come forward— witen he give serious consideration to this. is not sure— with an extension for one year. Why should it be for six months ? But I Sir, the Prime Minister was also good don’t want this to be extended at all. The enough to say— this again we get from the sooner we do it the better it w'ill be Press based on his speech delivered to the for us. In this context. I may quote a Congress Parliamentary Party— even line in Telugu— 3TJTrfTT Anandpur Sahcb Resolution was not It means even in the ease of ‘Amrit*, insisted on as pre-condition for having if it is delayed it becomes poison. So, negotiation. No pre-condition was attached. let there not be further delay and Only he takes objection to certain procastination. Unless you apply your clauses. That is correct. Those mind to this and find a solution to thiv clauses which are injurious for the mainte- the dangerous evil of communnhsm is going nance of unity and integrity of the country to enrulf the country and overiakc all and are objected to. It is rightly so. Any ultimately create a situation which wl’’ solution should be found and can be found very difficult for us to control. Alrt only within the four corners of the there is alienist thinking between Sl' hs Constitution. 1 do not think that any and Hindus. There is a perpetual aniniU. ty, solution can be found outside the scope 1 am sorry to say ‘perpctunl’, it cannot be of the Constitution. The Constitution is and it is wrong to say so. After all w? 369 Budget, 1985-86 CHAITRA 4, 1907 (SAKA) Punjab Burlget, I985M 370 comc from the same stock, same group. While conducing, I would urge the hon. We arc one, we are bound to be one. But Minister that he should come forward why this kind of animosity ? The entire with specific steps in this direction. It is Sikh community wherever they are—they a question of holding discussions with the may be in Punjab, they may be in other persons concerned. Whether he consults parts of the country—feel a sort of aliena- the opposition parties or not, that does tion ind this is a very dreaded evil and not matter. The Prime Minister at one we wil! have to annihilate this evil. You time stated that Akalis alone do no will have to create confidence in them present the majority opinion, there are and unless you do that, they will not feci other people also. Who are the other secure. After all, what are the demands ? people, with whom he is going to discuss The demands are religious ones and they the problem ? For all practical purposes, arc all almost conceded. But where there we shall have to take it that a solution are certain demands which are territorial, has got to be reached necessarily with they do not defy solution. Only the Akalis and nobody other than Akalis. political problems defy solution. Now, how does the Government want to solve the In this connection, 1 would invite the political problem ? How does the Govern- attention of the Home Minister to a ment want to solve the law and order reported speech which his esteemed pre- problem ? decessor, the Home Minister, seemed to have made during the course of a Con- If you employ the army or BSF and sultative Committee Meeting some time ago. increase the number of petrols, is it going He went to the extent of stating that the to solve the problem ? Has it solved the Congress Party would be even prepared to problem? This may be done when required; form a coalition Government with the I do not say it is wrong. Let these forces Akalis. Whatever agreement they are able be withdrawn al the appropriate time. to reach with Akalis, whatever possible Let the Home Minister decide what is the adjustments they are able to make with appropriate time, but 1 would once again them, it is upto them. Once again, I say that these measures will not yield would request the Home Minister to take dividends, will not lead to desired suitable steps and create a congenial results. atmosphere to find a p>®rtnanent solution to this problem, by involving all parties On certain occasions, draconian laws, concerned, and all sections of the which have been called black laws, have people. been promulgated, but they were found neccssary under the circumstances. All The Prime Minister recently made an right, you do that and continue them for announcement about Punjab. I have to some time, but that is not going to result objection; they are all very well intention- in a solution. In spite of those laws, t he ed; they are all laudable intentions. activities of the terrorists have been Whether it is the development of industries continuing and you are not able to curb in Punjab, or development of major them. Even yesterday, a leader of the BJP projects in Punjab, that is all good; they has been shot dead at Chandigarh; a may not be there in the Budget. That student leader has also been shot dead. docs not matter. As regards Vizag Steel And we are unable to check these terro- Plant, they say there are financial cons- rist; activities. In fact, it is not happen- traints, and money is not available. But ing in Punjab, but in other parts of the something has got to be done. Of course, country as also in other countries. there is no comparison between the two. Terrorist activities are there. These have However, I hope that better counsels will got to be dealtwilh with a heavy hand. prevail with the Government and they We will not be a party to such activities will be able to see wisdom and make by anybody. We do not mince words and sufficient allotment for Vizag Steel Plant. we depreciate them with all the force at But as I said, they do not stand on th« our command. But, at the same time, you same footing. The Prime Minister has can And a solution of the problem only made an announcement about soma by a negotiated settlement. There is no major economic relief in Punjab. It is Other alternative to this. rei7 good giving such concessions. h i Punjab Budget, J985-86 MARCH 25.19S5 Punjab Budget, 1985^6 372 Therefore, I congratulate the Govern- This is a very simple Bill in the sense ment. Before I concludc, once again 1 take that any person who could be detained objection that similar announcements are upto the 3rd of April 1985 or even before being made, not on the floor of the house, 3rd of April 1986, he could be detained, but outside, on the back of the House, because the order that was passed earlier which I think is detrimental not only in had lapsed. So, it is in the interest of the the interests of the democratic functioning nation that this Bill be passed. The in the country, bul also to the very passing of the Bill will really go a long prestige of the House itself. way to help the situation in soothing the hurt feelings. My friend on the other SHRI RAJ MANGAL PANDE (Dcoria): side has spoken that unilateral action Sir, it is a very simple Bill and docs will not only depend on giving some not need much of discussion Sir. Evcr> - concessions, but also soothing the feelings body knows that disruptive forces have of the Akalis with whom some kind of been at work ih this country for some settlement or under-hand deal is being time now. Initially even when people organised. I do not know what design he could not realise the situation, our laic has in his mind, I am very frank to Prime Minister who realised the situation submit that things cannot go one-sided. told in the Parliament and also outside Our Prime Minister has made it perfectly about internal disturbances and external clear that the talks will be held within aggression from other countries neigh- the ambit of the Constitution. We are bouring our border. Then we have some prepared to go to the forthest limit so far apprehension. Initially our political as the other demands are concerncd, as opposition parties took it as a political far as, they do not "hurt to hinder the trickery, but subsequently they were proved dignity or integrity of our country. There- wrong. Subsequently the whole country fore. Sir, there is nothing to hamper the knows as to what transpired and ultimately talks between the Akalis and our leader, our military had to take action. It is provided they have an intention. But at known to everybody. Now, the situation the same time, 1 do not think that they has not lessened even a bit. have softened their attitude even a bit. We thought that our unilateral action They said that their Anandpur Sahib in releasing the Akalis and talking to Resolution is their as much as it was them in a harmonious spirit might soothe some time back. Whai is there in that their feelings and even the statement resolution? Prc-cminence of the Khalsa made by the Prime Minister making raj- How can we give pre-eminence to certain announcements regarding the Khalsa raj in the Indian democracy, when Coach Factory and other things is also other States are as much to be recognized? in this direction only. I do not think that And people there arc as good as people it is a policy mattter. It is to soothe their in any other State. If we recognize one feelings under such situation so that the State, what is the guarantee that the other people of the Punjab may feel that they States will not raise their heads? So, it is are part of this country and that its against the integrity of the country, and developnitent is a part of the national no Government worth its name will development. The Government should do accept that kind of a situation. its best to heal up the wounds that were MR. DUPUTY SPEAKER : Mr. Pande, somehow or other created by animosity you can continue tomorrow. We now between two classes of people. adjourn. Therefore, this Bill, which has given power for three months, now gives power 18,01 hrs. for six months more to detain a person The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Gleven so that until the situation is harmonised of the Clock on Tuesday, March 26, 1985/ End to the extent the situation in Punjab Chaitra 5,1907 (Saka). absolutely gets back to normalcy, things Will not come to a pass. . Cbowdhury Mudran Kendra, Dclhi-55