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Meeting of the Parliament Tuesday 30 October 2018 Session 5 © Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Information on the Scottish Parliament’s copyright policy can be found on the website - www.parliament.scot or by contacting Public Information on 0131 348 5000 Tuesday 30 October 2018 CONTENTS Col. TIME FOR REFLECTION ....................................................................................................................................... 1 BUSINESS MOTION ............................................................................................................................................. 3 Motion moved—[Graeme Dey]—and agreed to. TOPICAL QUESTION TIME ................................................................................................................................... 4 United Kingdom Budget ................................................................................................................................ 4 NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE FINANCIAL OVERVIEW ........................................................................................... 10 Statement—[Jeane Freeman]. The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Jeane Freeman) ................................................................. 10 DIGITAL INCLUSION .......................................................................................................................................... 22 Motion moved—[Kate Forbes]. Amendment moved—[Donald Cameron]. Amendment moved—[Colin Smyth]. The Minister for Public Finance and Digital Economy (Kate Forbes) ......................................................... 22 Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) ....................................................................................... 26 Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) ........................................................................................................... 29 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) .............................................................................................................. 32 Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) ................................................................................................. 34 Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) ...................................................................................................... 37 Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) ........................................................................................................ 39 Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) ........................................................................ 41 Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) ............................................................................................... 43 Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) .................................................................................... 45 Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) .............................................................................. 47 Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) ........................................................................................... 49 James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) ..................................................................................................................... 51 Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)........................................................................................................ 53 Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) .................................................................................................................. 55 Colin Smyth ................................................................................................................................................ 56 Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) ................................................................................. 59 The Minister for Business, Fair Work and Skills (Jamie Hepburn) ............................................................. 61 DECISION TIME ................................................................................................................................................ 65 EXPORT OF LIVE ANIMALS FOR SLAUGHTERING AND FATTENING ....................................................................... 68 Motion debated—[Colin Smyth]. Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) ........................................................................................................... 68 Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) ....................................................................................... 72 Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) ............................................................................................... 74 Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) ................................................................................................... 75 Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) ........................................................................................... 77 Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) ................................................................................................. 79 Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) ...................................................................................................... 80 Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) ............................................................................................. 82 Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) .............................................. 84 The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Mairi Gougeon) ........................................... 86 1 30 OCTOBER 2018 2 Knox and others. On the title page of that work, we Scottish Parliament find these words: Tuesday 30 October 2018 “Exhibited to the Estates of Scotland in Parliament in August 1560 and approved by their public vote as doctrine founded upon the infallible Word of God”. [The Presiding Officer opened the meeting at In other words, the Scottish reformation was built 14:00] on the belief that the Bible is the revealed word of Time for Reflection God, and that what it teaches about Jesus, God and humanity is true. The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh): Good So, as a former politician turned pastor, and as afternoon. The first item of business is time for a Scot—albeit one who is currently exiled 14 miles reflection. Our time for reflection leader is Pastor across the border—I wish you well in your Michael Veitch, who is from Wooler evangelical endeavours to serve the people of this great church in Northumberland, and is a former East country. The Bible teaches that those in authority Lothian councillor. have been appointed by God, so may he be your guide this day and in the weeks and years ahead. Pastor Michael Veitch (Wooler Evangelical Church, Northumberland): Presiding Officer and Thank you very much. members of the Scottish Parliament, it is a great honour to stand before you today. When I stood down from politics at last year’s council elections to begin life in my ministry, it would be fair to say that I thought that I had forfeited any opportunity of ever appearing in the Official Report at Holyrood, so I suppose that my presence here in some way demonstrates that God moves in mysterious ways. In June, I visited an old congregational chapel in Norwich. Pinned to its door were the following words: “This chapel is not a museum for saints but a hospital for sick souls”. Sadly, the church is very often perceived as being the place for people who have their lives sorted out or—even worse—for people who think that they are in some way morally superior to everybody else. In reality, Jesus had very little time for religious hypocrites. He said: “I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance”— in other words, only people who know that their lives are a mess and who realise that they need a saviour and that they need Jesus. For such as them did Jesus die, so that they may be reconciled with God by faith in him. None of us would care much for a medic who offered us only vague solutions. As politicians, you are in the business of promoting tangible solutions to the nation’s problems each and every day. Likewise, Jesus Christ came into the world to offer truth. Alongside having my ministry in Northumberland, I continue to study theology here in Edinburgh. This year, we have been looking at the wonderful old document “The Scots Confession” of 1560, which was written by John 3 30 OCTOBER 2018 4 Business Motion Topical Question Time 14:03 14:04 The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh): The United Kingdom Budget next item of business is consideration of business motion SM5-14532, in the name of Graeme Dey, 1. Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP): To ask the on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out Scottish Government what its response is to the a revised business programme for today. UK budget. (S5T-01279) Motion moved, The Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Economy That the Parliament agrees to the following revision to and Fair Work (Derek Mackay): Yesterday’s the programme of business for Tuesday 30 October 2018— budget from the United Kingdom Government failed to live up to the Prime Minister’s after commitment to end austerity. Given the followed by Topical Questions continuation of UK welfare reforms, and that insert Scotland will receive less funding than had previously been promised, it was a budget of followed by Ministerial Statement: NHS Financial