1 SID: I'm Going to Tell You Something. I Have Been So Looking Forward To
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1 SID: I’m going to tell you something. I have been so looking forward to this show because my guest, many consider the foremost, best trumpet player in the world, Phil Driscoll. I mean, he has literally performed for five presidents. But something happened. Last thing he would have expected, after being a believer he ended up in prison. He is a broken vessel and I’m telling you the Glory will not be able to be contained about what you’re about ready to experience. Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It’s Supernatural. SID: Phil, I have to tell you. Obviously I’ve been a believer in the Messiah almost as long as you, no, longer than you, I think. But, and I’ve heard your music and I respect the gift that God has given you. But you’re in another realm at this point. I want to find out a little bit about you. Your mom was a musician. What instrument did she play? PHIL: She played piano and organ, and accordion, because my dad was a minister. He built 15 churches, IME churches. They would do street meetings and that’s how I started, plastic, a plastic trombone. SID: Did you really? How old were you? PHIL: Five. SID: I got a question from Facebook about you. PHIL: Oh boy. SID: And the question was, ask Phil about his mother’s word before you were even born. PHIL: When she was carrying me she said that there was a time that she was on the platform and there was a stained glass window in their church in Rock Falls, Illinois, I believe it was, and there was light coming through. And she said all of a sudden light came through the music, came through and went into her womb. And so what that means, you know, we all have gifts, but you can practice and you can study, but the gift is paramount, you know. SID: That’s in every field. PHIL: That’s in every field. SID: Your first music contract, Word Records. PHIL: Yes, sir. SID: Problem. You are wild. You’re too wild for Christianity at that point. 2 PHIL: You know what’s really funny is in the 1800s, you could read where they said the violin was too wild for church. SID: So you got offended, I would have to think, when they thought of your music, they didn’t appreciate your music, and you said, I’m going into, you didn’t mean it intentionally, but that’s what you did, you went into the world. Who did you work with? PHIL: Well I used to play with Joe Cocker for quite a while. Joe Cocker, [singing] You are so beautiful to me. [talking] That one. Right. Then I wrote for Blood, Sweat and Tears. Then I, you know, I grew up in Tulsa, so Leon Russell was a friend of mine, you know, that whole genre. SID: So you’re really in effect running from that wonderful call of God in your life. You have a $5000 a day cocaine addiction. PHIL: It wasn’t really 5000. I mean, maybe, maybe there were weeks that it was. But it was, you know, probably in my life I spent well over a half a million dollars on drugs and only to discover that it was really a counterfeit. All drug addiction is a counterfeit for God’s high. And you know, if you’re religious you won’t buy into that. But he is the most high and that’s not a misnomer. He is the most high God and the high that we get as believers when we come into his presence is a high that no drug can ever attain for us. SID: I have to tell you, Phil, I have never, fortunately, I’ve never done drugs. But when I came into an encounter with God I defy any drug in the world to compare to that. PHIL: That’s right. SID: There is nothing to compare to that. PHIL: That’s right. SID: Okay. So you’re running from God. Christmas morning, 1977, what happened? PHIL: I was living with a young lady by the name of Lynn and I at that time owned a couple of night clubs, and I was rocking. I think the greatest thing about that time was my dad was a pioneer minister, but he was a plumber and a carpenter, and he did everything. Right. And so my dad would come into the night clubs that I owned and he would bring his hammer and whatever, and he would fix something. He never preached to me. He just loved me. And when he showed up on my front door with Dunkin Donuts and coffee I could not say no. It was Christmas Day. He said, “Would you come to church with us.” And so I really had the mindset, because I was still, I got so turned off to the things of God because I could not understand how God didn’t like rhythm. I couldn’t understand how God didn’t like it funky. I couldn’t understand how he didn’t like it loud. Because thunder, my God, thunder is louder than any rock and roll show in the world. And so I went with that mindset. And I went into a place called Beaches Chapel in Jacksonville, Florida, and the people, it was in a gymnasium, and they were dancing. I mean, I looked at my wife and I go, “They’re having more fun than they have at midnight at the bar.” And that day was an encounter for us. And all I can tell you, it wasn’t like a great sermon. I couldn’t tell you even what they talked about. But all of a sudden I 3 felt this presence and it was, the only way I can explain is, it was like somebody pouring warm oil over me from the top of my head. It was like all of the bitterness and the stuff you carry when you live in the world, in the real world, all of the stuff, it was just melted away. And I looked at my girlfriend, and she had her hands in the air, and she didn’t know anything about that. And that day marked a change in my life. Three months later, my girlfriend and I were married. That’s whatever it is, almost 40 years ago now. My dad performed, that was his last official act before he went on to be with Jesus. So that’s where it all began with me. SID: Okay. There is a song about what happened to you. You call it “Christ Remains.” I call it “Messiah Remains.” What does that song mean to you? PHIL: The only way I can describe it is I began to sing in a studio, which is not a spiritual environment, and I began to sing, and all of a sudden it was like I went somewhere else and I was behind the camera. Right. And I saw my life, and I saw the places where it had been tough times. I saw the places where, I mean, except for God’s grace I would have spent in those rock and roll days, I would have spent about 70 years behind bars. SID: [Would you play that for us now?] PHIL: Okay. SID: And I’m going to tell you something else. You are going to have an encounter with God when you hear this music, because it’s not just entertainment. He’s in a different realm now. Here is Phil Driscoll, “Messiah Remains”. PHIL: [music, singing] When dreams are rudely shattered, and plans are torn apart and I'm left to try to gather up the fragments of my heart in the darkness hope is there, shining like a flame Messiah remains, Christ remains. He’s my provider my protector, always watching over me. He’s my comforter, my counselor, He is all I need, my constant in the chaos, my source of strength unchanged. Every day the same, Christ remains, Christ remains. When silence steals my prayers and I'm feeling' all alone, as the valley of the shadow claims the dearest ones I've known then I crawl toward my refuge, you’re my shelter in each pain. Christ remains, Christ remains. He’s my provider my protector, always watching over me. He is my comforter, my counselor, he is all I need. My constant in the chaos, my source of strength unchanged. Every day the same, Christ remains, Christ remains. [trumpet instrumental] We'll be right back to It's Supernatural. [music] [commercial] [music] We now return to It's Supernatural 4 SID: You know, what I love about Phil’s music is it’s impregnated with the presence of God. It literally is an atmosphere in which all things are possible. Miracles take place. Tell me, I was reading about a few that took place, tell me about the blind person that got healed. PHIL: There was a friend of mine in Detroit had a church and said, “Why don’t you just come and see what God does if you stay five or six days.” And I said, “I don’t know what I would do.” He said, “You do what you do.” I said okay because I believe there’s a frequency that you can plug into in Heaven where the songs come down to Earth just like that.