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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 13111 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 27 June 2018 The Council met at Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. 13112 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK WING-HANG THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 13113 THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE ALVIN YEUNG THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WAN SIU-KIN THE HONOURABLE CHU HOI-DICK THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HO KAI-MING THE HONOURABLE LAM CHEUK-TING THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-CHUN THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN 13114 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HUI CHI-FUNG THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI THE HONOURABLE KWONG CHUN-YU THE HONOURABLE JEREMY TAM MAN-HO THE HONOURABLE GARY FAN KWOK-WAI THE HONOURABLE AU NOK-HIN THE HONOURABLE VINCENT CHENG WING-SHUN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S. MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 13115 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION THE HONOURABLE JAMES HENRY LAU JR., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY DR THE HONOURABLE LAW CHI-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE THE HONOURABLE JOHN LEE KA-CHIU, S.B.S., P.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY THE HONOURABLE FRANK CHAN FAN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING THE HONOURABLE EDWARD YAU TANG-WAH, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL WONG WAI-LUN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT THE HONOURABLE KEVIN YEUNG YUN-HUNG, J.P. SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION DR RAYMOND SO WAI-MAN, B.B.S., J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 13116 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Will the Clerk please ring the bell to summon Members to the Chamber. (After the summoning bell had been rung, a number of Members entered the Chamber) TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No. Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Pleasure Grounds) (Amendment of Fourth Schedule) (No. 2) Order 2018 ............................................... 119/2018 Declaration of Increase in Pensions Notice 2018 .............. 120/2018 Widows and Orphans Pension (Increase) Notice 2018 ..... 121/2018 Other Papers No. 113 ― Sir David Trench Fund for Recreation Annual Report 2017-2018 No. 114 ― Securities and Futures Commission Annual Report 2017-18 No. 115 ― Investor Education Centre Annual Report 2017-18 No. 116 ― Airport Authority Hong Kong Annual Report 2017/18 Report of the Bills Committee on Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill 2018 Report of the Panel on Public Service 2017-2018 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 13117 ADDRESS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Address. Mr POON Siu-ping will address the Council on the "Report of the Panel on Public Service 2017-2018". Report of the Panel on Public Service 2017-2018 MR POON SIU-PING (in Cantonese): President, in my capacity as Chairman of the Panel on Public Service ("the Panel"), I submit its work report for this session and highlight several major areas of work. The Panel welcomed that 6 700 new posts would be created in the civil service establishment in 2018-2019. Members of the Panel hoped that the new permanent posts created might further reduce the number of non-civil service contract staff. The Panel continued to actively follow up on the latest updates on the Administration's extension of the service of civil servants. In the 2017 Policy Address, the Chief Executive announced the re-examination of allowing serving civil servants joining the Government between 1 June 2000 and 31 May 2015 to choose to extend their retirement age on a voluntary basis, so as to meet the challenges arising from the ageing population and shrinking labour force. The Civil Service Bureau had launched a consultation this year from 20 February to 30 April to seek views of the staff sides and grade/departmental management on the proposed implementation framework of the new initiative, and received 470 submissions. The Panel also consulted the civil service staff unions/associations and the public on the initiative, and a total of 19 submissions were received. After studying the views collected, the Administration announced the implementation details of the initiative last week, which was scheduled for launching in July this year. The Administration regularly briefed the Panel on its provision of training and development for civil servants. This year, some members opined that the Civil Service Bureau should enhance the training of civil servants, particularly national affairs, the Basic Law and the relationship between the Constitution of China and the Basic Law. Since the Chief Executive had stated in the Policy Address that additional resources would be allocated for developing Hong Kong into a smart city to improve people's livelihood and make Hong Kong a more liveable city, members generally considered that the Administration should step 13118 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 up its efforts and organize more relevant courses for civil servants, such as Big Data and application of innovation and technology, so as to enhance service efficiency and quality of departments. Besides, members also welcomed the Chief Executive's proposal of establishing a civil service college. Members noted that the Administration had identified a site generally suitable for the construction of the civil service college, and was conducting further planning, studies and follow-up. President, the written report has given a detailed account of the work of the Panel. I so submit. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Questions. First question. Collection of personal data of participants of public assemblies 1. MR SHIU KA-CHUN (in Cantonese): It has been reported that some secondary school students arrived at the Victoria Park in the afternoon of the 4th of this month to get themselves ready for attending the June 4th candlelight vigil to be held there that night. During that time, a woman, for the reason of compiling statistics on the number of participating students, enquired with those students and jotted down the names of the schools they were attending, and she refused to disclose her identity to the reporters. Albeit not wearing a police warrant card, the woman was not stopped when she entered the Police Command Post on the spot. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council: (1) whether the aforesaid woman is a police officer; if so, of the duties she was discharging at that time and why she was not wearing her police warrant card; if not, the reasons why she was not stopped when she entered the Police Command Post; (2) whether the Police will deploy plain-clothed police officers to compile statistics on the number of students participating in public assemblies; if so, of the number of participating students in the past five years; if not, how it prevents lawbreakers from collecting the personal data from students under the guise of compiling statistics; and LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 27 June 2018 13119 (3) of the ranks of police officers who are generally deployed by the Police to assess the number of participants of public assemblies, and whether they will also collect the personal data of the participants; if so, of the items, uses and retention periods of the data collected, and the measures to prevent such data from being misused? SECRETARY FOR SECURITY (in Cantonese): President, Hong Kong residents enjoy freedom of peaceful assembly, of procession and of demonstration.