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Australians at War Film Archive Neville Elliot - Transcript of interview Date of interview: 2nd October 2003 http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/992 Tape 1 00:34 Well good morning, Neville. I would like to start off today by asking if you can tell me a bit about where you grew up? Well, I grew up in the Newcastle area, I was born in Hamilton, 01:00 which is a suburb of Newcastle, and I was born 25th of January 1925. My schooling, I went to Hamilton Boys’ Public School and then I moved onto Newcastle Boys’ High School. 01:30 High School I found a bit boring, I went through to fourth year and then decided I would leave school and go and get a job. I got a job with a shipping company in Newcastle, and I had a wonderful time in that job. To do with shipping and ships; it was a very interesting profession then. 02:00 And I worked in an office in what we call Watt Street, which in those days used to be the street where the shipping officers were, the whole street was different shipping companies. And we were agents for the British Phosphate Commissioners. And they had three very nice vessels of 02:30 their own and they used to travel between Newcastle, Nauru and Ocean Island. And they would bring cargoes of phosphate into Newcastle. And we also used to get American ships form Texas brining sulphur in, and that was on a regular basis. And I worked there until 03:00 I was seventeen. I started there late fifteen, and I worked there until I was early seventeen. And then all of my mates and friends were slightly older than me, but they were eighteen, and they had joined the forces, some the air force, army, navy, and I was left fairly lonely. And then I decided 03:30 I would join the navy. I had always been interested in the sea, and I had done a lot of sailing early life, and I had done a lot of fishing outside. A friend of mine had a professional fishing boat, and I used to go out with him often and I had a leaning towards the sea from those experiences, and the sailing. 04:00 And Newcastle, the public, I don’t think were too worried about the war a great deal at that time. Until Darwin was bombed. And then people started to get concerned, there was talk that the Japanese were going to invade. I know a lot of people sent their children into inland areas, a lot of people left the areas, moved out of Newcastle. 04:30 And then the navy gave a talk one night out at the yacht club, I was a member of the Lake Macquarie Yacht Club. And they were setting up what they called Auxiliary Naval Patrol, which was a voluntary organization. There was a big panic on that the Japanese were definitely going to land on the east coast, and every boat was commandeered. 05:00 Any boat, rowing boat, yacht, anything, was commandeered and put on dry land so that it couldn’t be used by the Japanese, which thinking back is the silliest thing I have ever heard. And this navy chap asked for volunteers to join the Newcastle section of the volunteer coastal patrol. So quite a few of us did enlist, we signed up as volunteers. And we used to do 05:30 patrol work, two nights a week I think we used to do it, on motor cruisers that were owned by a lot of the Royal Navy Yacht Club chaps, they were another club at Toronto. And we used to do patrols on Lake Macquarie, patrols on Newcastle Harbour but not out in the open ocean. And one experience we had, a very good friend of mine who I 06:00 used to go out fishing with outside, he was a member and he used to provide his vessel, and we were doing a patrol in the Newcastle Harbour area, on the night of the, I think it was the 8th of June 1942, and our patrol used to take in the upper harbour area, and out as far as the end of the breakwater on Nobby’s Head. And on that night 06:30 was the night the Japanese shelled Newcastle. It was quite an experience. The first warning we had that there was something happening was the star shell, and it illuminated just like day the whole of the Newcastle area. And we carried an Aldis signal lamp, plus some other equipment, and we flashed a warning to the 07:00 the pilot station. And there is a fort which is still there, Fort Wallace was at Stockton, they had nine point two guns, I think, and the other fort on the headland at Newcastle had six-inch guns, they had three guns, and we signalled and signalled and got no response from them. And then there was an air- raid 07:30 siren went, and the whole of Newcastle was blacked out, and the power station is right up above Newcastle in an elevated position, it was lit up like a candle. And then the shells came over. And I think on records there was eight star shells fired to illuminate the area. And I think there was about twenty- four heavy calibre, they were about five point five 08:00 inch shells that the submarine carried. They fired all over different areas of Newcastle. Strange to say, only about three exploded; the rest were duds, but they were fairly accurate. They put two, I think, into the steelworks, they hit the wall of the powerhouse. One exploded up the top in Parnell Place, but no one was injured, and the rest were all failures. 08:30 But that brought Newcastle people to suddenly realise that they were exposed. After that a couple of months later, I think it was that time, I then decided I would join the navy. So I went to Sydney and enlisted but I had to 09:00 wait for a call up. And apparently when you join the navy, you go to a big training depot down in Victoria, called HMAS Cerberus. Well naturally, they can only limit their intake to the area they have got and how many they can train at a certain time. So I had to wait quite a few weeks before I got the call 09:30 to go down. And I think I went down to Cerberus in about October in 1942. And the course is a fairly long one and it is pretty hectic. And I always 10:00 remember how it taught everyone discipline. And thinking back and thinking what we have got today in Australia, that’s one thing we are lacking in our youth. And I think it would do them a lot of good to get a periodic call up and go and do some training. Getting back to the navy, I was down there for about 10:30 three months, I think, to start with. And then I decided I would do a course on gunnery, that’s heavy armament. And then that went on for another couple of weeks. And I failed the final gunnery shoot. It wasn’t my fault, I don’t think. It was almost dark and it was very hard to find 11:00 the target, so they failed me. So I could have saved that time and gone with the initial intake. But I stayed behind with a couple of other fellows. Then I was drafted to a big depot at Balmoral in Sydney. What they call HMAS Penguin. 11:30 It was a fairly new depot; it was a lovely depot. And that was the point where they drafted all of the intake to various ships. I got friendly with a nice young WRAN [Women’s Royal Australian Navy] who worked in the drafting office and asked her to keep her ear open and let me know if she heard of anything coming up for me. And finally she 12:00 told me that she heard a whisper that there was quite a few going to be drafted to the HMAS Shropshire, which was in England, and it had been given to the Australian navy as a replacement for the HMAS Canberra, I think it was, that had been sunk up in the Solomon Islands. Well, her information proved correct and I got 12:30 notification from the drafting office that I was going on pre-embarkation leave but I was to stay in the area for the next twenty-four hours so they could let me know to come back to the depot. Anyway, I went to Newcastle and I think I had about seven days leave, and I know I went away from Newcastle somewhere, I don’t know 13:00 where it was, and I had been there overnight and when I came back, there was a telegram there and to get to Sydney as quick as I could. By the time I got to Sydney and got out to the depot and they told me to get straight back to Central Station and catch the troops train, the train had left. So I missed that first troops train. And I had to 13:30 wait for the next one which was, I just forget how long it was it was, a few hours after that first one had gone.