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Whole Day Download the Hansard Monday Volume 664 9 September 2019 No. 341 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Monday 9 September 2019 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2019 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 475 9 SEPTEMBER 2019 476 Alan Brown: Some 96% of EU students who study at House of Commons Scottish universities enrol on courses that are longer than three years. Does the Secretary of State agree that Monday 9 September 2019 Scottish universities cannot but be adversely impacted by the Home Office’s current temporary leave to remain scheme, which allows for students being here for three The House met at half-past Two o’clock years, as in Scotland they would then need to apply for a tier 4 visa? Does he agree this is unfair? PRAYERS Gavin Williamson: The hon. Gentleman raises an important point. I know this matter has been raised [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] with me by a number of Scottish Conservative and Unionist MPs and it is certainly something I am looking at closely, but I thank him for taking the time to raise it Oral Answers to Questions in the House. Justine Greening (Putney) (Ind): I think leaving the EDUCATION European Union with no deal would be one of the most anti-social mobility steps this country could have taken in many years. Does the Secretary of State agree with The Secretary of State was asked— me that the left-behind communities that are so often talked about by Ministers will be the ones worst hit? Leaving the EU: Tertiary Education Perhaps the only double whammy that could follow that would be to scrap the opportunity areas, which are 1. Patrick Grady (Glasgow North) (SNP): What at least helping some of them to improve education assessment he has made of the potential effect on standards. tertiary education of the UK leaving the EU without an agreement. [912309] Gavin Williamson: I have spoken to quite a number of colleagues about the really valuable work the opportunity 20. Alan Brown (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (SNP): areas are doing and the impact—the very positive impact— What assessment he has made of the potential effect on they are having on the communities in which they are tertiary education of the UK leaving the EU without an operating. We are looking at how we can develop that in agreement. [912329] the future. The Secretary of State for Education (Gavin Williamson): Leaving the European Union with a deal remains the Maggie Throup (Erewash) (Con): Will my right hon. Government’s top priority. We will work in an energetic Friend reassure the House that as well as ensuring our and determined manner to get the very best deal, and a great universities—such as Derby and Nottingham near better deal than has previously been put to this House. my constituency—can continue to educate overseas students We are supporting the sector to manage the transition from the EU, he is working towards reciprocal agreements through Brexit, including providing reassurance on so that young people in my constituency of Erewash participation in EU-funded programmes, future migration can continue to study in EU countries? arrangements and access to student support. Gavin Williamson: We are having such discussions Patrick Grady: The right hon. Gentleman was always with European member states, and we are making very energetic and determined when he was the Government good progress on this. It is very important that we Chief Whip and we worked together. What reassurances ensure the United Kingdom remains a destination that can he provide to the University of Glasgow in my EU students want to come to study in, and we have big constituency, which is having to issue emergency advice ambitions to ensure we continue to deliver on that, but in the event of a no deal? It is reminding research teams also that our students from our constituencies have the to conduct inventories of their materials in case it is not opportunity to study abroad. possible to pre-order perishable goods such as gases. It is reminding staff and students Carol Monaghan (Glasgow North West) (SNP): There “that, in the event of a no-deal withdrawal, EU countries may not admit individuals with passports which are due to expire within have been alarming reports that the Department for six months of the date of travel.” Education is considering an Erasmus+ replacement programme for England only, with potentially no This is the kind of debilitating effect it is having. Would consequential funding for the devolved Administrations. it not be better to accept the inevitable, and rule out no Will the Secretary of State admit that this would amount deal and ask for the extension now? to a complete abandonment of students across the UK, Gavin Williamson: We have worked and will continue and will he take this opportunity to confirm that an to work closely with higher education institutions, including England-only scheme is not something this Government the University of Glasgow, to ensure, if we do leave will consider? without any deal with the European Union, that all mitigations are put in place. I very much look forward Gavin Williamson: We think that it is important for us to working with the hon. Gentleman in this role as I did to look at the interests of all students across the whole when we were both Chief Whips together. United Kingdom. 477 Oral Answers 9 SEPTEMBER 2019 Oral Answers 478 Carol Monaghan: I am not sure that that was an autonomous electric vehicles and healthcare to replace answer. Last Thursday, my hon. Friend the Member for those that the Black Country has lost in traditional Glasgow Central (Alison Thewliss) asked the Under- industries? Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union about the status of Erasmus students who are currently Gavin Williamson: I take this opportunity to pay in Scotland, specifically if they go home, for example at tribute to the hon. Gentleman and to my hon. Friend Christmas, whether there is a guarantee that they can the Member for Dudley South (Mike Wood) for all the return in the event of a no-deal Brexit. In response to work they have done in campaigning to deliver this for her question, the Minister stated, “Yes.”Will the Secretary Dudley, and for the work they have done to deliver the of State detail how that process will work, given that institute of technology in Dudley as well. That will all those students are not applying for settled status? go towards generating the right skills and the right educational outcomes not only for the whole town of Gavin Williamson: I am very happy to write to the Dudley but much more widely. I very much hope to visit hon. Lady with more details and give her the reassurance Dudley. Hopefully, the hon. Gentleman will be able to that she seeks. We recognise how important it is for the join me to discuss how we can do more for Dudley and UK as a whole to remain an attractive destination for the surrounding area. people who wish to study, and that is vital in every component part of the United Kingdom, including Margot James (Stourbridge) (Ind): Following the Scotland. deeply regrettable closure of Stourbridge College earlier this summer, will my right hon. Friend consider meeting Angela Rayner (Ashton-under-Lyne) (Lab): Well, well, the principals of all the Dudley colleges—Dudley College, well. The Secretary of State has had quite a start. Halesowen College and King Edward VI College—with Rumour has it that he forgot to appoint a Skills Minister, a view to discussing their wish to continue to provide and we are now waiting for our fifth Higher Education vocational skills training, particularly adult education, Minister in just two years. Will he tell us the fee status of in my constituency of Stourbridge. European students after 2020, and will our universities still benefit from Horizon, Erasmus, and the European University Institute or not? Gavin Williamson: I would be very happy to meet my hon. Friend to discuss that in detail with those stakeholders. Gavin Williamson: We continue our negotiations and discussions with the European Union to ensure that we Further and Higher Education: Quality and Choice have access to these schemes. 3. Mary Robinson (Cheadle) (Con): What steps his Angela Rayner: Well, I am sure that the Secretary of Department is taking to improve (a) quality and (b) choice State would like me to shut up and go away, but I am in (i) further and (ii) higher education provision. not going to do that. He has to try harder with his [912311] answers. Will he publish officially his no-deal impact assessment and contingency plans, and tell us how much his Department is spending on no-deal preparations? The Secretary of State for Education (Gavin Williamson): Can he give us a clear guarantee that his no-deal plans We are increasing the funding for 16-to-19 participation do not include suspending or weakening food standards through T-levels, and providing support for college in our schools? improvement. The Office for Students and Ofsted hold HE and FE providers to account for delivery quality Gavin Williamson: I can give the hon. Lady that and successful outcomes. The teaching excellence and assurance, yes. student outcomes framework and new digital tools provide data support in student choice. Funding Educational Facilities: Dudley Mary Robinson: Last week, at the invitation of sixth- 2. Ian Austin (Dudley North) (Ind): What plans the former Anna, I visited Cheadle Hulme High School to Government has to allocate funding to educational speak to students.
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