Frank Ryan
From: Rebecca Rector [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] McParlin/Hogan
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
The 1870 Troy census shows Bridget McParlin 36, b. Ireland, with 4 children. Children b. NY & she must be a widow as no husband listed and youngest child is 2. Her occupation is brush drawing. > Dennis Hogan 19, b. Ireland, is within the household
Bridget is also in the 1880 census of Lansingburgh (she was there in 1870), spelled Bridget McParttin, age 44 with 5 children: Mary is 19, John 17, Stephen 15, William 13, and Kate 9. John and Stephen both work as brush makers. It is odd that there would be another child, if she is in fact widowed... In 1860, there is a Bridget McFarlin, 24 in Lansingburgh with husband Frank. In the household are several others who are brush makers, probably unrelated (there were brush factories in Lansingburgh). It's likely that this is the same Bridget as she is the right age and born Ireland. There were other McFarlin and McParland families in Lansingburgh, possibly related. I just played around with the census on Ancestry.com, using the soundex etc. Names were never spelled correctly or consistently in the census, so it's always necessary to play around with every spelling possibility, and also search for people's ages - plugging in approx dates of birth and places of birth, looking for all possibilities, including other states.... Also, if you know that Dennis Hogan came From Co. Limerick, I would write to the Heritage Center there and see if they can find anything on his family. Search on CyndisList.com -- there are lots of hits for Limerick. Good luck, Rebecca Rector www.rbinforesearch.com
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From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] McParlin/Hogan
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Thanks, Rebecca, for this info. I'll try your suggestion. Carole
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Rector"
> The 1870 Troy census shows Bridget McParlin 36, b. Ireland, with 4 > children. > Children b. NY & she must be a widow as no husband listed and youngest > child > is 2. Her occupation is brush drawing. >> Dennis Hogan 19, b. Ireland, is within the household > > Bridget is also in the 1880 census of Lansingburgh (she was there in > 1870), spelled Bridget McParttin, age 44 with 5 children: Mary is 19, John > 17, Stephen 15, William 13, and Kate 9. John and Stephen both work as > brush > makers. It is odd that there would be another child, if she is in fact > widowed... > In 1860, there is a Bridget McFarlin, 24 in Lansingburgh with husband > Frank. In the household are several others who are brush makers, probably > unrelated (there were brush factories in Lansingburgh). It's likely that > this is the same Bridget as she is the right age and born Ireland. There > were other McFarlin and McParland families in Lansingburgh, possibly > related. > I just played around with the census on Ancestry.com, using the soundex > etc. Names were never spelled correctly or consistently in the census, so > it's always necessary to play around with every spelling possibility, and > also search for people's ages - plugging in approx dates of birth and > places > of birth, looking for all possibilities, including other states.... > Also, if you know that Dennis Hogan came From Co. Limerick, I would > write > to the Heritage Center there and see if they can find anything on his > family. Search on CyndisList.com -- there are lots of hits for Limerick. > Good luck, > Rebecca Rector > www.rbinforesearch.com > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > 2 >
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3 Frank Ryan
From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Dallaird thomas
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hello Rita O'Brien,
I never received what you have sent so I must have a problem with my email. I am sorry to be a pain in the side, but maybe if you want to try one more time at [email protected] I would appreciate it. jd ----- Original Message ----- From:
>I just got back all the Censuses I sent to you. What is your e-mail >address? > - all but 1890(fragmented) I could print and send snail mail. Let me >know Rita > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy > Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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From: John Sisk [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] The Keener by Maura D. Shaw
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
After seeing a message about The Keener by Maura D. Shaw on this list, I purchased a copy. It is an excellent novel about life and conditions in Ireland at the time of the famine. The main characters emigrate to Troy in order to survive and I think t he author gives a very good picture of life and conditions in Troy in the second half of the 1800s. I think anyone on this list would be interested in this book. Happy reading.
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From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] The Keener by Maura D. Shaw
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS i received the book as a St. Patricks Day gift from my husband, haven't got to reading it yet. Can't get a quiet weekend.....Kristin
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From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] The Keener by Maura D. Shaw
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Dear list, I ,too, have read Maura Shaw's wonderful book which I obtained at her reading and signing event at the Arts Center in Troy,March 11th. My grandparents,John and Johanna (McGrath) Shaw lived on 4th St in south Troy so this book was really exciting for me to read. Upon reading this book you will realize how much research was done to complete this book and I know the list members will enjoy this book as much as I have.Mary (Welch) Hayes
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7 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Dallaird thomas
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I'll try to get the censuses out to you as soon as I can-if this goes through. It just could have been an overcrowded network. Rita O'Brien
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From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Dallaird thomas
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I'll try again. Rita
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From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] The Keener by Maura D. Shaw
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hello Mary:
Your mention of Johanna McGrath caught my attention as I had just finished checking Page 66-1 from the Burden Death Record project. The following McGrath was listed on that page. My great grandmother in Ireland, by the way, was a Johanna Hayes McGrath from Thurles, Tipperary.
"McGRATH-In this city, Oct. 24, 1894, Johanna, wife of Patrick McGrath. Funeral from the residence, 134 Third street, on Saturday morning at 9 o'clock, and thence to St. Mary's church, where a requiem high mass will be celebrated. Friends are invited to attend. "
There are only THREE more pages to be done on the Burden Death Record project and shortly we will have approximately 6,000 records on-line searchable by name.
Regards,
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY ----- Original Message ----- From:
My > grandparents,John and Johanna (McGrath) Shaw lived on 4th St in south > Troy so > this book was really exciting for me to read. Upon reading this book you > will > realize how much research was done to complete this book and I know the > list > members will enjoy this book as much as I have.Mary (Welch) Hayes >
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From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] D & H Railroad-- question?
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Mike can you contact me off line so we can discuss how to get this book. Thanks, jd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAlonie"
> HI Donna and list: > That Shaughnessy book is great, lots of local pictures and old maps and is > thick- full of D and H history. I bought it for my pop because my > grandfather was a steam fitter on the old steam locomotives on the D and H > in Whitehall NY. I tested my 80 year old uncle and he could still call > off the stops in order between Cohoes and Whitehall on the D and H. That > author also published another great book about "The Rutland RailRoad". I > have access to both both. > > My question is this: Does anyone know if the D and H maintained employee > records from as far back as the 1920-30s and are they in an archives > anywhere? > > Mike > > > > Subject: [TIGS] D & H Railroad > > > I was talking to a couple of members at the meeting last week about the > D&H > Railroad. Here is some additional information for them, and anyone else > who > is interested (could also be added to our resource list, Jeanne): > > > Delaware and Hudson by Jim Shaughnessy (he is a retired HVCC professor > and > lives locally), Howell-North Books, Berkley, CA, 1967. > > > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > 11
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From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 5:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Cohoes/Troy Directories 1920's
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Donna, I'm there quite a bit, I could do a check. Sorry I haven't been on for a few days, just now catching up. Pat
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From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Reminder from your Nominating Committee (of one)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
If you have not yet sent me your nominations for our very first slate of officers for our local TIGS group, please do so. Our meeting is 2 weeks from this Thursday. You can E-mail me off list, or post directly to the list.
Thanks,
Donna
Nominating Committee
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From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Workshop
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Sponsored by the New York State Council of Genealogical Organizations (NYSCOGO) and Central New York Genealogical Society (CNYGS). The future success of genealogical and historical societies will depend upon their ability to rediscover and redefine themselves as they adapt to rapidly changing developments in the field. Leaders in these organizations will need the skills to build upon the best of “what is” and to be flexible in pursuing the possibilities of “what can be.” This workshop will be led by Carol Anne Kozik, a teacher/nurse practitioner with more than 20 years experience in developing leadership training for educational, nonprofit and healthcare groups. Participants will learn the skills needed to build their organization and help effectively meet the needs of the members. When: Saturday, April 30, 2005 from 9AM – 4PM, registration at 8:30AM Where: First United Church of East Syracuse at 823 Franklin Park Drive Take NYS Thruway to exit 34A, south on 481 to Kirkville Road, west on Kirkville Road, right on Franklin Park Drive, first church on the right. Cost: $25 (fee includes lunch)
Registration will be limited to the first 50 applicants. Please register by sending your check to: Diana Law, Registrar at 7213 Manlius Center Road, E. Syracuse, NY 13057 For more info email: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected] )
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From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] meeting minutes
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Marilyn Mahoney can you send me your e-mail address off list so that I can forward a copy of the meeting minutes. Attending members review for corrections before they are posted to the web site. I don't have you in my address book. Thanks kristin
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From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I just found this in yesterday's Times Union. Is this OUR Bill McGrath? Ruth Cherecwich
William B. McGrath
TROY William B. McGrath, 83, of Troy Towers Apts., died Tuesday, April 5, 2005 at St. Mary's Hospital. Born in Cohoes, N.Y. and attended Cohoes Schools, he was a resident of Troy for over 60 years and was the son of the late John J. and Dehlia Longtin McGrath and husband of the late Margaret Mack McGrath who died March 17, 2002. Mr. McGrath was employed for over 50 years at Oviatt Plumbing & Heating Co. in Troy, retiring as vice- president several years ago. He was a Navy veteran of both World War II and the Korean War from 1946-1952. Bill was an avid golfer at seve ral area golf courses and a member of the Van Schaick Country Club, Troy Elks #141, Cohoes K. of C., Lansingburgh Veteran's Club, Polish American Club, St. Patrick's Parish and the Holy Name Society. Mr. McGrath wintered in Port Charlotte, Fla. for the past 14 years. Survivors include his children, Maureen (Robert) Hernick, Marsha Briggs and Mark W. (Hilary) McGrath, all of Troy; grandfather of Pamela and Chistopher Hernick, Meghan and Maureen Briggs, Matthew, Connor and Alicia McGrath; great-grandfather of Christopher William Hernick; brother of John McGrath of Cohoes, Joseph McGrath of Hollindale, Fla. and the late J. Gordon McGrath and T. Donald McGrath. The family would like to take this opportunity to express a special Thank You to the 5th floor nursing staff at St. Mary's Hospice and Community Hospice of Rensselaer Co. Home Care, especially Cheryl Mazzola, R.N. Funeral services will be held Friday 9 a.m. from the Riverview Funeral Home, 218 Second Ave. (at 104th St.) and at 9:30 a.m. at St. Patrick's Church, Troy. Interment will be in St. Peter's Cemetery. Relatives and friends may call Thursday 4 to 8 p.m. at the funeral home. Contributions to St. Patrick's Church, 3027 6th Ave., Troy, NY 12180 or Community Hospice of Renss. Co., 295 Valley View Blvd., Rensselaer, NY 12144 would be appreciated.
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From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 6:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Noooooo, it is NOT!!!!!! "Our" Bill is nowhere near 83, and his lovely wife Cathy is very much alive. Perhaps it is a relative of Bill's, but it is definitely not "our" Bill.
That must have been scary for you, Ruth, to think it was our Bill.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
I just found this in yesterday's Times Union. Is this OUR Bill McGrath? Ruth Cherecwich
William B. McGrath
TROY William B. McGrath, 83, of Troy Towers Apts., died Tuesday, April 5, 2005 at St. Mary's Hospital. Born in Cohoes, N.Y. and attended Cohoes Schools, he was a resident of Troy for over 60 years and was the son of the late John J. and Dehlia Longtin McGrath and husband of the late Margaret Mack McGrath who died March 17, 2002. Mr. McGrath was employed for over 50 years at Oviatt Plumbing & Heating Co. in Troy, retiring as vice-president several years ago. He was a Navy veteran of both World War II and the Korean War from 1946-1952. Bill was an avid golfer at several area golf courses and a member of the Van Schaick Country Club, Troy Elks #141, Cohoes K. of C., Lansingburgh Veteran's Club, Polish American Club, St. Patrick's Parish and the Holy Name Society. Mr. McGrath wintered in Port Charlotte, Fla. for the past 14 years. Survivors include his children, Maureen (Robert) Hernick, Marsha Briggs and Mark W. (Hilary) McGrath, all of Troy; grandfather of Pamela and Chistopher Hernick, Meghan and Maureen Briggs, Matthew, Connor and Alicia McGrath; great-grandfather of Christopher William Hernick; brother of John McGrath of Cohoes, Joseph McGrath of Hollindale, Fla. and the late J. Gordon McGrath and T. Donald McGrath. The family would like to take this opportunity to express a special Thank You to the 5th floor nursing staff at St. Mary's Hospice and Community Hospice of Rensselaer Co. Home Care, especially Cheryl Mazzola, R.N. Funeral services will be held Friday 9 a.m. from the Riverview Funeral Home, 218 Second Ave. (at 104th St.) and at 9:30 a.m. at St. Patrick's Church, Troy. Interment will be in St. Peter's Cemetery. Relatives and friends may call Thursday 4 to 8 p.m. at the funeral home. Contributions to St. Patrick's Church, 3027 6th Ave., Troy, NY 12180 or Community Hospice of Renss. Co., 295 Valley View Blvd., Rensselaer, NY 12144 would be appreciated.
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19 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
In a message dated 4/8/2005 4:59:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Noooooo, it is NOT!!!!!! "Our" Bill is nowhere near 83, and his lovely wife Cathy is very much alive. Perhaps it is a relative of Bill's, but it is definitely not "our" Bill.
Thank you for responding so quickly.
Ruth
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From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I say it was scary for Bill to see his obituary on list....Kristin
-----Original Message----- From: Donna Vaughn
Noooooo, it is NOT!!!!!! "Our" Bill is nowhere near 83, and his lovely wife Cathy is very much alive. Perhaps it is a relative of Bill's, but it is definitely not "our" Bill.
That must have been scary for you, Ruth, to think it was our Bill.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
I just found this in yesterday's Times Union. Is this OUR Bill McGrath? Ruth Cherecwich
William B. McGrath
TROY William B. McGrath, 83, of Troy Towers Apts., died Tuesday, April 5, 2005 at St. Mary's Hospital. Born in Cohoes, N.Y. and attended Cohoes Schools, he was a resident of Troy for over 60 years and was the son of the late John J. and Dehlia Longtin McGrath and husband of the late Margaret Mack McGrath who died March 17, 2002. Mr. McGrath was employed for over 50 years at Oviatt Plumbing & Heating Co. in Troy, retiring as vice-president several years ago. He was a Navy veteran of both World War II and the Korean War from 1946-1952. Bill was an avid golfer at several area golf courses and a member of the Van Schaick Country Club, Troy Elks #141, Cohoes K. of C., Lansingburgh Veteran's Club, Polish America n Club, St. Patrick's Parish and the Holy Name Society. Mr. McGrath wintered in Port Charlotte, Fla. for the past 14 years. Survivors include his children, Maureen (Robert) Hernick, Marsha Briggs and Mark W. (Hilary) McGrath, all of Troy; grandfather of Pamela and Chistopher Hernick, Meghan and Maureen Briggs, Matthew, Connor and Alicia McGrath; great-grandfather of Christopher William Hernick; brother of John McGrath of Cohoes, Joseph McGrath of Hollindale, Fla. and the late J. Gordon McGrath and T. Donald McGrath. The family would like to take this opportunity to express a special Thank You to the 5th floor nursing staff at St. Mary's Hospice and Community Hospice of Rensselaer Co. Home Care, especially Cheryl Mazzola, R.N. 21 Funeral services will be held Friday 9 a.m. from the Riverview Funeral Home, 218 Second Ave. (at 104th St.) and at 9:30 a.m. at St. Patrick's Church, Troy. Interment will be in St. Peter's Cemetery. Relatives and friends may call Thursday 4 to 8 p.m. at the funeral home. Contributions to St. Patrick's Church, 3027 6th Ave., Troy, NY 12180 or Community Hospice of Renss. Co., 295 Valley View Blvd., Rensselaer, NY 12144 would be appreciated.
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From: Michael McAlonie [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS lord no. bill- you sure as heck don't look anywhere near 83 to me. -30 years I'd say. I saw OUR Bill McGrath at that Irish cottage presentation and he didn'y look a day over 50, with a fine Florida tan to boot.
FALSE ALARM. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]
I just found this in yesterday's Times Union. Is this OUR Bill McGrath? Ruth Cherecwich
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From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Bill McGrath
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Mike give me a call privately, jd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAlonie"
> lord no. bill- you sure as heck don't look anywhere near 83 to me. -30 > years I'd say. > I saw OUR Bill McGrath at that Irish cottage presentation and he didn'y > look a day over 50, with a fine Florida tan to boot. > > FALSE ALARM. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected]
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From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I came across a couple of books on the Troy area that I found helpful and interesting. They are available via interlibrary loan. (Jeanne, could you please add to the resource list for the website).
Profiles Out of the Past of Troy, New York Since 1789 (pub. 1970)
By Samuel Rezneck, Ph.D. (Troy Library). Profiles of Prominent Troy Figures, including portraits/photos:
Berman
Blatchford
Brinsmade
Burden
Burns
Cluett
Crocker
Eaton
Fagan
Francis
Garnet
Gilbert
Greene
Griswold
Gross
Gurley
Hart
Havermans
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Judah
Marcy
Marshall
Meneely
Morrissey
Murphy
Murray
Pawling
Powers
Ricketts
Sage
Stanford
Stewart
Tibbits
Townsend
Tucker
Van Rensselaer
Van Santwoord
Ward
Wells
Willard
Wilson
Winslow
Wool
The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' Association of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by company names.
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If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another week.
Donna
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From: ANN PLAISTED [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Donna Vayghn From the second book ---- Knudson Scale Works or maybe a bakery run by Knudsons??? Anybody else ever heard of the scale works?
Thanks Ann NJ
>From: "Donna Vaughn"
29 > >Wilson > >Winslow > >Wool > > > >The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' >Association >of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of >industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed >by company names. > > > >If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for >another week. > > > >Donna > > > > > > > >==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy >Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >
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From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Will do! I think I will start a local "readings" page. Jeanne
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From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Could you look up Powers John,James Mary Margaret thanks Cindy
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From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Donna, would you please look at the Willard entry and let me know who, what, when? Thanks, Carole in Georgia
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Vaughn"
>I came across a couple of books on the Troy area that I found helpful and > interesting. They are available via interlibrary loan. (Jeanne, could > you > please add to the resource list for the website). > > > > Profiles Out of the Past of Troy, New York Since 1789 (pub. 1970) > > By Samuel Rezneck, Ph.D. (Troy Library). Profiles of Prominent Troy > Figures, including portraits/photos: > > Berman > > Blatchford > > Brinsmade > > Burden > > Burns > > Cluett > > Crocker > > Eaton > > Fagan > > Francis > > Garnet > > Gilbert > > Greene 33 > > Griswold > > Gross > > Gurley > > Hart > > Havermans > > Hooley > > Judah > > Marcy > > Marshall > > Meneely > > Morrissey > > Murphy > > Murray > > Pawling > > Powers > > Ricketts > > Sage > > Stanford > > Stewart > > Tibbits > > Townsend > > Tucker > > Van Rensselaer > > Van Santwoord > > Ward > > Wells > > Willard > > Wilson >
34 > Winslow > > Wool > > > > The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' > Association > of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of > industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by > company names. > > > > If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another > week. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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35 Frank Ryan
From: Lynn Grice [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Donna,
I would be interested in the entry for Pawling in the first book.
Many thanks for bringing both of these books to our attention and for your kind offer to do lookups.
Lynn
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36 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources-KNUDSON SCALE WORKS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
From Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens'Association of Troy, 1895, p. 100:
"Knudson & Jessen, Manufacturers of Standard Scales. Factory: Second Ave. and Twenty-Sixth St., West Troy, NY" (One page detailed description of the company and its products follows, too lengthy to transcribe). Organized in Sept. 1893. "Widely recognized throughout the U.S. and in many foreign lands as the best (scales) made."
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: ANN PLAISTED [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources
Donna Vayghn From the second book ---- Knudson Scale Works or maybe a bakery run by Knudsons??? Anybody else ever heard of the scale works?
Thanks Ann NJ
>From: "Donna Vaughn"
38 > >Tibbits > >Townsend > >Tucker > >Van Rensselaer > >Van Santwoord > >Ward > >Wells > >Willard > >Wilson > >Winslow > >Wool > > > >The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' >Association >of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of >industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by >company names. > > > >If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another >week. > > > >Donna > > > > > > > >==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== >Troy Irish Genealogy Society website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >
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40 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources PAWLING
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
From Profiles Out of the Past of Troy, New York Since 1789 (pub. 1970) By Samuel Rezneck, Ph.D.
Page 19 "Colonel Albert Pawling (1750-1837) Troy City Father and First Mayor (of Troy)" followed by an interesting 4 1/2 page profile of Col. Pawling and his accomplishments: "a founder and father of modern Troy." Page 18 is a full-page portrait of Col. Pawling.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: Lynn Grice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Donna,
I would be interested in the entry for Pawling in the first book.
Many thanks for bringing both of these books to our attention and for your kind offer to do lookups.
Lynn
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41 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] FW: Resources CORRECTION
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I got this reversed, sorry.The first book (Profiles.) is from Valley Falls Library, and the second (Industrial.) is from Troy Library.
Donna
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From: Donna Vaughn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:17 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Resources
I came across a couple of books on the Troy area that I found helpful and interesting. They are available via interlibrary loan. (Jeanne, could you please add to the resource list for the website).
Profiles Out of the Past of Troy, New York Since 1789 (pub. 1970)
By Samuel Rezneck, Ph.D. (Troy Library). Profiles of Prominent Troy Figures, including portraits/photos:
Berman
Blatchford
Brinsmade
Burden
Burns
Cluett
Crocker
Eaton
Fagan
Francis
42 Garnet
Gilbert
Greene
Griswold
Gross
Gurley
Hart
Havermans
Hooley
Judah
Marcy
Marshall
Meneely
Morrissey
Murphy
Murray
Pawling
Powers
Ricketts
Sage
Stanford
Stewart
Tibbits
Townsend
Tucker
Van Rensselaer
Van Santwoord
Ward
Wells
43
Willard
Wilson
Winslow
Wool
The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' Association of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by company names.
If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another week.
Donna
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44 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Mrs. Emma Willard (1787-1870), p. 69-72, portrait p. 68. "Emma Hart Willard, Pioneer Educator of Women and the Founder of the Troy Female Seminary"
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: carole lubbers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Donna, would you please look at the Willard entry and let me know who, what, when? Thanks, Carole in Georgia
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Vaughn"
>I came across a couple of books on the Troy area that I found helpful and > interesting. They are available via interlibrary loan. (Jeanne, could > you > please add to the resource list for the website). > > > > Profiles Out of the Past of Troy, New York Since 1789 (pub. 1970) > > By Samuel Rezneck, Ph.D. (Troy Library). Profiles of Prominent Troy > Figures, including portraits/photos: > > Berman > > Blatchford > > Brinsmade > > Burden > > Burns > > Cluett > > Crocker 45 > > Eaton > > Fagan > > Francis > > Garnet > > Gilbert > > Greene > > Griswold > > Gross > > Gurley > > Hart > > Havermans > > Hooley > > Judah > > Marcy > > Marshall > > Meneely > > Morrissey > > Murphy > > Murray > > Pawling > > Powers > > Ricketts > > Sage > > Stanford > > Stewart > > Tibbits > > Townsend > > Tucker >
46 > Van Rensselaer > > Van Santwoord > > Ward > > Wells > > Willard > > Wilson > > Winslow > > Wool > > > > The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' > Association > of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of > industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by > company names. > > > > If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another > week. > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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47 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Resources POWERS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
The Powers is Mrs. Deborah Powers (1790-1891) Lansingburgh Business Woman and Centenarian" She was married to a William Powers and had 2 sons, Albert & Nathaniel.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Could you look up Powers John,James Mary Margaret thanks Cindy
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48 Frank Ryan
From: Jeanne M. Keefe [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] TIGS April Meeting- NEWS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hello all: Ed Dyer has managed to secure us a new meeting venue in Troy City Hall. This month's meeting will be next Thursday, April 21 at 6:15 pm. Because there is a previously scheduled meeting in the conference room this month, we will be meeting in the lunchroom and Ed will post exact room directions in the lobby of city hall the night of the meeting. Hope to see you all there and THANKS ED! Jeanne
Jeanne M. Keefe Vice President, Visual Resources Association < http://www.vraweb.org/ >www.vraweb.org Visual Resources Librarian Architecture Library Greene Building, Rm 306 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: [email protected]
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49 Frank Ryan
From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Thank you. Don't think she is one of mine sorry to say. Carole
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Vaughn"
> Mrs. Emma Willard (1787-1870), p. 69-72, portrait p. 68. "Emma Hart > Willard, > Pioneer Educator of Women and the Founder of the Troy Female Seminary" > > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > From: carole lubbers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TIGS] Resources > > Donna, would you please look at the Willard entry and let me know who, > what, > > when? Thanks, Carole in Georgia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Vaughn"
51 >> >> Stanford >> >> Stewart >> >> Tibbits >> >> Townsend >> >> Tucker >> >> Van Rensselaer >> >> Van Santwoord >> >> Ward >> >> Wells >> >> Willard >> >> Wilson >> >> Winslow >> >> Wool >> >> >> >> The second book: Industrial Advantages of Troy by The Citizens' >> Association >> of Troy, 1895. (Valley Falls Library). Interesting brief write-ups of >> industries in Troy and surrounding areas, and illustrations. Indexed by >> company names. >> >> >> >> If anyone would like a look-up in either book, I'll have them for another >> week. >> >> >> >> Donna >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== >> Troy Irish Genealogy Society website >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >> >> > >
52 > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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53 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Our Website
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Jeanne, our Webmaster, sent me an Email about 2 things:
She added a new page on Green Island Resources http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/GreenIslandReferences.htm
And she also added a new page for Books and Articles at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/Bibliography-TIGS_Anotated.htm
I'm putting out a call to the list for other books and articles that we could add to the second page, please. If you have any, please either post or forward directly to Jeanne @ [email protected]
Thanks,
Donna
List Administrator
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54 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
4/12/05
Hi All
We will be starting the coping of St. Joseph, Holy Trinity and St. Lawrence in Troy.
The Date is next Tuesday Apr 19th at 9:00AM sharp! We are going to work until 5pm so bring a small lunch with you or if you wish we can go for lunch around the corner at sub way. If you can't do a whole day, let me know and maybe we can spit a the day with someone. The parish is more strict then the others that I've done. They would like a list of all the people coming to help. I told him I would do the best I can. As you know with my job it is hard for me to be there in the future, I will do my best to go as often as possible. Kevin Pemrick will be heading some of those day's I will also be asking Carol Weldron To take charge if she has the time and wouldn't mind doing it. It is always good to have a spoke person around.
Kevin Pemrick will be going on Saturday, April 23 at 10am to 2pm again there hours. I will also be doing a list for helpers then as well. We will be working with 2 copiers so I would like 6 people if possible. Two on each machine and one for each copier to proof all work coming out. Usually we take turns doing all the different spots. Wear sneakers or something that is conformable.
I have only one request If the staff or administrator asked any question on this project you are to refer them to m e. All question of any type are to be referred to me and only me. One of the reason why this project was put on hold was people were calling and asking of the project was completed. We hadn't even started it and I received a call with all kind of question from the administrator.
Please contact me ASAP
Thank You
David L Bonitatibus ACGS NY representative 573-3962 cell [email protected]
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55 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
David~
If there is any transcribing to be done, please let me know. I live in NC now and would not be able to help onsite but will be willing to help transcribe any info.
~ PJ
[email protected] wrote: 4/12/05
Hi All
We will be starting the coping of St. Joseph, Holy Trinity and St. Lawrence in Troy.
The Date is next Tuesday Apr 19th at 9:00AM sharp! We are going to work until 5pm so bring a small lunch with you or if you wish we can go for lunch around the corner at sub way. If you can't do a whole day, let me know and maybe we can spit a the day with someone. The parish is more strict then the others that I've done. They would like a list of all the people coming to help. I told him I would do the best I can. As you know with my job it is hard for me to be there in the future, I will do my best to go as often as possible. Kevin Pemrick wil l be heading some of those day's I will also be asking Carol Weldron To take charge if she has the time and wouldn't mind doing it. It is always good to have a spoke person around.
Kevin Pemrick will be going on Saturday, April 23 at 10am to 2pm again there hours. I will also be doing a list for helpers then as well. We will be working with 2 copiers so I would like 6 people if possible. Two on each machine and one for each copier to proof all work coming out. Usually we take turns doing all the different spots. Wear sneakers or something that is conformable.
I have only one request If the staff or administrator asked any question on this project you are to refer them to me. All question of any type are to be referred to me and only me. One of the reason why this project was put on hold was people were calling and asking of the project was completed. We hadn't even started it and I received a call with all kind of question from the administrator.
Please contact me ASAP
Thank You
David L Bonitatibus ACGS NY representative 573-3962 cell [email protected]
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57 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
What is this about? Where are you going to copy church records, at the parish rectory? Or as St. Joseph's is now called the priory because it is now under the Carmelites and it is also my parish. Pat
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58 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Free Access to NEHGS Database
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Celebrate Patriots' Day with Free Access to a Premium DB at NewEnglandAncestors.Org
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The complimentary open access period begins Wednesday afternoon, April 20, and ends seventy- two hours later on Saturday afternoon, April 23. If you are not yet a member of NEHGS, but want to spend some time researching in one of our premium databases, this is your chance. Now that tax season is behind us, we invite you to spend some of your free time researching your early New England ancestors.
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The easiest way to learn which database will be offered, and how to link to it, is to subscribe to the NEHGS eNews at http://www.newenglandancestors.org/education/articles/NEXUS_eNews/enews_main
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We invite you to forward this offer to a friend.
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59 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Thanks for your notes
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi Pat
I belong to a group who copy Catholic Church records We have copied over 45 churches in the local area since 1996. After receiving permission from the Bishop over 10 years ago I have copied and printed many churches with the help of over 20 very loyal people that do Data entering on the different parishes at one time. Right now we are completing St. Joseph in Cohoes Baptismal records and St. Paul's in Hudson Falls, NY is completed and is waiting to be printed. We are also working on St. Anthony's in Schenectady, and Our lady of Angel's in Albany. Chuck and the Carmelite Fathers feel this will help the hundreds of people contacting them yearly for Geneo information. When this project is completed you will be able to research your family by just looking up the whole family on one page. Marr/Death/Baptiaml. NO MORE BEGGING FOR INFO THAT IS YOURS!
I hope you and other can take part of this great project as well as I need help with data entering in the other parishes that I'm doing. Everyone has been so great helping with parishes of no interest to them, but for the sake of Genealogy they help.
I will need a least 10 people or more for data entering this large project, so please ask around for helpers in your group. There are a few other Troy parishes that I'm now working on coping and will let you all know where and when. These are the Following parishes completed.
Notre Dame Des Victories - Whitehall NY B/M/D Printed St. Joseph - Cohoes NY Mar's printed and now BAP (coming very soon) Sacred Heart - Schenectady NY B/M/D Printed St. Columba- Schenectady NY B/M/D Printed St. Joseph Schenectady NY Mar's Printed only at this time St. Anthony Schenectady NY B/M/D Next for proofreading St. Paul Hudson Falls NY B/M/D (Data completed now being proofread) Our Lady of Grace Ballston Lake NY B/M/D Printed St. George Albany NY B/M/D Printed Our Lady of Angels Albany NY B/M/D being data entered now NEED HELP! St. Gabriel The Archangel Rotterdam NY B/M/D (Almost completed for data entering) Our lady The Assumption Rotterdam NY B/M/D Printed St. Alphonsus Glens Falls NY B/M/D Printed St. Patrick Troy NY B/M/D Printed St. Jean The Baptiste Troy NY B/M/D Printed St. Anne Waterford NY B/M/D Printed Notre Dame De Lourdes Schuylerville NY B/M/D Printed Visitation of B.V.M Schuylerville NY B/M/D Printed Precious Blood Holyoke, MA B/M/D Printed 60 Our Lady of perpual Help Holyoke, MA B/M/D Printed St. John The Baptist Kesseville NY B/M/D completed but not printed yet St. Catherine of Seina Clintonville NY B/M/D completed but not printed yet Our Lady of Lourdes Schroon Lake NY B/M/D completed but not printed yet
Parishes copied but not data entered as of yet (lack of help to complete at this time)
St. Patrick - Cambridge NY St. Joseph - Salem NY St. Joseph - Greenwich NY Imm Heart of Mary - Hudson Falls NY St. Joseph - Fort Edward NY St. John The Baptist - Schenectady NY St. Luke - Schenectady NY St. Joseph - Schenectady NY B and D only Imm Conception - Schenectady NY St. James the Major - Lake Pleasant NY St. Mary - Indian Lake NY St. William - Blue Mt Lake St. Joseph - Ottisville NY St. Mary - Hudson NY upstate Hudson St. Ann - Wells NY
Permission has been granted for granted for other parishes thru out our Diocese, but without the help I've put them on hold for now. We need to product more data entering before any more projects can be excepted. You help is greatly needed.
Thank You
David L Bonitatibus
PS All coping will be done in the Rectory
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61 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Data people
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi All
I know some of you had sent me info on doing data entering, I need to have the following info.
Name/maidan/marraged name/address/phone contact's and any languages that you can read, even if it a little. For example Latin/german/Polish/ etc. No big deal if you can only read english.
I received a note from PJ? I'm not sure who this is Also a Doris Reilly a friend of Kay R.
We will not be doing the data entering on this for a while, as it will take a while to copy and set up in files.
I really need help with Our Lady of Angels in Albany for data entering
Thanks
David
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62 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Tuesday helpers
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi again
Here's the following people coming this coming Tuesday
Lynn Grice 11am to 5pm Kay Brearton 9am to 5pm Doris Reilly Moak 9am to 5pm Kevin Pemrick 9am to 5pm David L Bonitatibus 9am - 5pm
Thank you all again
David Bonitatibus
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63 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Next Week's Meeting
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi Everyone,
I hope that everyone is enjoying the BEAUTIFUL weather we are having. It is so nice to hear the birds chirpping. On another note, I am chairing next weeks meeting and am currently working on the agenda. If you have something that you want to add to the agenda, please let me know.
Donna is still taking nominations for officers. If you want to nominate someone, you still have time. Hope to see you next week, Thursday, April 21, 2005 at the Troy City Hall Lunchroom at 6:15pm.
Toodles,
Lizette
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64 Frank Ryan
From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Is this info that will be published/available for research? In book form? Carole inGeorgia
----- Original Message ----- From:
> What is this about? Where are you going to copy church records, at the > parish rectory? Or as St. Joseph's is now called the priory because it is > now > under the Carmelites and it is also my parish. > Pat > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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65 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi
You will be able to go to the parish and look up your info freely. This is the main reason for this project.
Thnak you David
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66 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi David,
Your efforts are fantastic!
Will the information ever be made available on the Internet?
(Of course this would be helpful for those of us who can't make it to the parish and who have lots of surnames to look for.)
Tracey ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:13 am Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
> Hi > > You will be able to go to the parish and look up your info freely. > This is > the main reason for this project. > > Thnak you > David > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy > Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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67 Frank Ryan
From: Brian Martin [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Tombstones from various Catholic church burials
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I am looking for James MARTIN who supposedly married Mary O'LEARY probably about 1855-60. I thought I had the right family and that James had been married first to a Catharine as they were listed with sons John and James of the right ages. Then on a trip to Salt Lake last week I turned up both families in the 1880 census with sons of the same age. I only know that John had the middle initial H. and that he married Anna WACHTEL about 1902. I have not been able to find either marriage record. I do have the WACHTEL census and cemetery records. John and Anna moved to Seattle, Washington in about 1904, raised their 3 sons and died there. I obtained the baptism record for James and Catherine MARTIN'S first son, William and thought I was on the way to finding the father of James until I realized there are two James MARTINs. Any help from someone with access to church records would be gratefully received. I subscribe to most of the Ancestry data bases and would be happy to do a lookup for others. Jan Martin
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68 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Tombstones from various Catholic church burials
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Please provide the area where you are looking for these records (town, city or county) so we can help you. You mention Seattle, but because this is the Troy area list, I'm guessing you are looking for church records somewhere in this area??
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Martin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Tombstones from various Catholic church burials
I am looking for James MARTIN who supposedly married Mary O'LEARY probably about 1855-60. I thought I had the right family and that James had been married first to a Catharine as they were listed with sons John and James of the right ages. Then on a trip t o Salt Lake last week I turned up both families in the 1880 census with sons of the same age. I only know that John had the middle initial H. and that he married Anna WACHTEL about 1902. I have not been able to find either marriage record. I do have the WACHTEL census and cemetery records. John and Anna moved to Seattle, Washington in about 1904, raised their 3 sons and died there. I obtained the baptism record for James and Catherine MARTIN'S first son, William and thought I was on the way to finding the father of James until I realized there are two James MARTINs. Any help from someone with access to church records would be gratefully received. I subscribe to most of the Ancestry data bases and would be happy to do a lookup for others. Jan Martin
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69 Frank Ryan
From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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That sounds good - if you live there. I live in Georgia - not good for me. Carole
----- Original Message ----- From:
> Hi > > You will be able to go to the parish and look up your info freely. This > is > the main reason for this project. > > Thnak you > David > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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70 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:15 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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Carole, I emailed him and he will send out materials anywhere in the country for us to transcribe. He said he forgot to put that in the email. My sheets to transcribe were put into the mail today. I live in Utah.
Ruth Cherecwich
That sounds good - if you live there. I live in Georgia - not good for me. Carole
----- Original Message ----- From:
> Hi > > You will be able to go to the parish and look up your info freely. This > is > the main reason for this project. > > Thnak you > David
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71 Frank Ryan
From: carole lubbers [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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Oh, didn't know that! Thanks, Carole
----- Original Message ----- From:
> Carole, I emailed him and he will send out materials anywhere in the > country > for us to transcribe. He said he forgot to put that in the email. My > sheets > to transcribe were put into the mail today. I live in Utah. > > Ruth Cherecwich > > That sounds good - if you live there. I live in Georgia - not good for > me. > Carole > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
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73 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Last call from the Nominating Committee
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
The slate of nominated officers will be presented at our local meeting on Thurs. April 21. Thank you to all who participated. If you do not see your nominee's name on the slate (which will be posted after the meeting), it is because they declined the nomination.
We do have a proposed name for every office, but at this point, it appears it will be an unopposed election for each of our nominees. Therefore, I just wanted to send you this reminder: If you have someone in mind for an office, PLEASE contact me no later than Wed. April 20.
Thanks,
Donna
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74 Frank Ryan
From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I was looking over Ancestry.com page on my ggrandfather and lo and behold there are a number of Armenians listed in Troy. I don't know if you know but there were millions of Armenians killed by the Turks who intended to practice their genocide till the Armenians were all gone. They called them dirty because they would ha ndle money. But was there a large contingency of Armenians in Troy in the old days. jd ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Hi > > You will be able to go to the parish and look up your info freely. > This is the main reason for this project. > > Thnak you > David > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy > Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ >
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75 Frank Ryan
From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I live to far south of Troy to make a day trip out of it David. I was just curious if people remember any Armenians in Troy. The fellow who played Mannix the PI on TV was on a talk show and he said he was Armenian and talked about going to spend his summers in Troy with his grandmother. Just another curiosity. jd ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dolllard"
>I was looking over Ancestry.com page on my ggrandfather and lo and >behold there are a number of Armenians listed in Troy. I don't know if >you know but there were millions of Armenians killed by the Turks who >intended to practice their genocide till the Armenians were all gone. >They called them dirty because they would handle money. But was there >a large contingency of Armenians in Troy in the old days. jd > ----- Original Message ----- > From:
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77 Frank Ryan
From: Brian Martin [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] James Martin
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Sorry that I wasn't more specific. I am looking for church records in the Troy area. My husband's father, Theodore Roosevelt Martin was born in Cohoes, New York. The family of James and Mary Martin are living in the 8th Ward of the City of Troy, Rensselaer County, New York in the 1875 census. Sons William 14, John 12 and James 7 are listed as being born in Albany County. That would be between 1851 and 1858. Thomas age 1 was born in Rensselaer County. The census was taken in June 1, 1875. James is 40 and born in Ireland (about 1835). In 1870 I found James and Catherine with sons matching the 3 older boys of just the right ages in the Village of West Troy.
In 1875 William Martin, a carpenter lived at rear 242 Fourth Street, Village of West Troy. In 1876 William is apparently gone and James Martin, laborer now lives at that address and continues there until 1884 when a James Martin, laborer appears at 19 Hill. This information was taken from the City Directory for Troy & Lansingburgh, E. Troy & Green Island, Cohoes & Waterford. The residence for James is confirmed in the 1870 and 1880 census.
I obtained a certificate of Baptism for William Martin born at Watervliet, New York on 26 March 1861, baptized 30 March 1861 by Rev. William Fernelly, Church of St. Patrick, 515 19th Street, Watervliet, N. Y. Sponsors- John Graulty and Elizabeth Martin. The Martin family name disappears from the records of that church in 1876. I did look at records of St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church when I was in Troy but found no mention of James and Mary Martin.
I have not been able to find marriage records for James and Mary (O'Leary) Martin nor for John H. and Anna (Wachtel) Martin. The latter couple may have been married at St. Henry's Catholic Church where most of Anna's family are buried. Several letters to St. Henry's have produced no response though $20 checks have been cashed. Again any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Jan Martin
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78 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
There an Armenian Church called St. Peter's in Watervliet, NY I know there is a big community of them as I use to work in an Armenian restaurant in Watervliet years ago. The Food was great!
Thanks David
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79 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] James Martin
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi Jan
I have the B/D/M records for St. Patrick in Troy and as well as St. Jean The Baptiste and I found no name matching the names you gave. But there were a lot of Martins in there thought. I also looked in the St. Joseph in Cohoes, NY mar book and again I found many Martins but none of the names you gave.
Kevin Pemrick who belongs to this group is related to the Martin fami ly. But truly related to most of Troy :) both of his familles go a long way back in the area.
I think when you make your next trip to the area, you should stop at St. Henry's and remind them that you sent them a check for "research" and not a donation to there fund. The Canon law is that everyone is initialed to there family info. The exception is if there is a mark on the record, annulment, adoption's, illegitimate births. (These are all conferential) Depending on the staff at a church, they can be grea t or really miserable! Good luck
Thanks David L Bonitatibus
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80 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] James Martin
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Daivd~
I was wondering whether the St. Patrick and St. Jean the Baptiste information was available online and if so, where I could look up family information. Thanks!
Also, please let me know if you need any data entry help. If you want to mail me info, just let me know.
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81 Frank Ryan
From: Gillian [[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] James Martin
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
David: may I ask if St Pats has any records for McNamee?? many thanks.
[email protected] wrote:
>Hi Jan > >I have the B/D/M records for St. Patrick in Troy and as well as St. >Jean The Baptiste and I found no name matching the names you gave. But >there were a lot of Martins in there thought. I also looked in the St. >Joseph in Cohoes, NY mar book and again I found many Martins but none of the names you gave. > >Kevin Pemrick who belongs to this group is related to the Martin >family. But truly related to most of Troy :) both of his familles go a >long way back in the area. > >I think when you make your next trip to the area, you should stop at St. >Henry's and remind them that you sent them a check for "research" and >not a donation to there fund. The Canon law is that everyone is >initialed to there family info. The exception is if there is a mark on >the record, annulment, adoption's, illegitimate births. (These are all >conferential) Depending on the staff at a church, they can be great or >really miserable! Good luck > >Thanks >David L Bonitatibus > > >==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy >Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > > >
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82 Frank Ryan
From: John Dolllard [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Thanks for Camera Advice- batteries! printer? archival ink?
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Where are you my chubby little pink Irishman? Go private, means use other mail besides TIGS mail, it does not mean go potty. Go private so I can discuss coming up and going to a meeting with you. I haven't been to an AA meeting in years. The last one I went to I was drunk and they kicked me out. Yes sir, a sour stomach, heartburn and throwing up all the time cured me of drinking, that and the cost of a fine bottle of Jameson's. Did you make it to the Gay Pride weekend down in NYC. I looked for you on the news. jd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAlonie"
>I second the motion about the rechargeable lithium batteries. That's big. >Sony seems to have good batteries. I have a 5mp sony cybershot and am >amazed at how long the battery that comes with it lasts. Also if you >have a sony video camera you can interchange batteries if one dies. >Mine works great with both regular photography and for photographing >documents, papers, microfilm viewers, books, etc. I cant seem to get >the manual focus to work well up close, but the auto setting works just >fine. I agree with Jeane about the glass lens, it has a "Karl Zeis"? lens and takes very nice >pictures. Too much camera for me. If you get a plastic camera body get a >thick camera bag. I cant tell you how many times I have dropped mine >in the library when I grab for it after finding a pesky obit. > > My next logical question is this? I was listening to computer geek > Kim Commando on 810 wgy the other weekend and a caller asked about how > to best back up the old family photos he has digitized. He asked > about backing them up on cd and on an external hard drive. She > recommended that both were a good idea, but with her valuable images > she does not entirely trust how long either technology will last over > time and she uses good old paper to save hers- archival inks and > archival photo paper. And like few of us today have functional > players to hear the 8 tracks we may be saving in our attics, I wonder > how long the cd will be around and readily readable. can you imagine > our great grandchildren going through our old trunk or shoe box, > looking at a cd or external hard drive and saying, what the H*** is > this? And we all thought that leafing through the box of keepsakes > and seeing old pictures without names was so bad and a tease. That would be even worse. It would go right in ! > the garbage. Then again there may still be geeks like me who still have > their atari saved in a box. After all I still see phonographs players in > antique shops around here. Thank God for the folks who save things. > but I still agree with the paper idea. > 83 > so , can anyone recommend which combination of products- printer and > paper-, or external hard drives, etc- would be best for that task? I > am paranoid that all the pictures I have on my pc could be erased some how. > very curious to hear this. > > Thanks, Mike > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy > Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > >
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84 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Cohoes/Troy Directories 1920's
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi Susan, Was at the Troy Library today. Elizabeth and Margaret lived at 17 Olmstead in 1922, ditto 1923. In 1924 directory Elizabeth it states died July 22, 1924. Margaret continued to live at this address until1930. In the 1930 directory it states she lived at 147 Saratoga St., ditto 1931, 1932, 1933, and 1934. In 1935 the directory states she lived at 187 Main St., ditto 1936. In 1937 it states 149 Saratoga St., ditto 1938. That's where I left off for today, my eyes were getting a little tired. So I'm guessing she should have been in the 1930 census unless for some reason she was not counted. I'll go back another day and see how far it goes. Later directories they had just put down Margt for her first name but I'm sure it's still her. Pat
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85 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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One of my best friends in high school was Pat Nazarian, I believe she was Armenian. Pat
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86 Frank Ryan
From: Jeanne M. Keefe [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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As I understand it, there was a large community of Armenians who lived around an Armenian Church on 5th avenue between Grand and Jacob Streets. Now the only Armenian Church I know of in Troy is on Spring Avenue opposite to where the old Van der Heyden Hall used to be.
Jeanne Keefe
At 06:36 PM 4/19/2005, you wrote: >One of my best friends in high school was Pat Nazarian, I believe she >was Armenian. >Pat > > >==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy >Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/
Jeanne M. Keefe Vice President, Visual Resources Association < http://www.vraweb.org/ >www.vraweb.org Visual Resources Librarian Architecture Library Greene Building, Rm 306 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: [email protected]
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87 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] St Joseph in TRoy NY( help needed)
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If I remember correctly my friend Pat Nazarian lived around that area of Fifth Ave. and did belong to a church there. Pat
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88 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Irish Perception Lecture Series
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
This message is being sent to the Troy Irish Genealogy List and the Rensselaer County List:
The Capital District Celtic Cultural Association is presenting another of their Irish Perception Lecture Series which are FREE and open to the public.
This weeks lecture, by Aidan O'Sullivan, Department of Archaeology, University College Dublin is on "Exploring People and Their Worlds in Early Medieval Ireland"
"Recent archaeological discoveries in Ireland have transformed our knowledge of the landscapes, places and peoples of early medieval Ireland, AD 400-1100. This lecture, illustrated with pictures of recent discoveries, will discuss archaeological insights into the way people organized their homes, fields, and route ways. it will discuss the types of object that were used in daily life, from preparing food, working the land, to displaying wealth and social status. The lecture will explore how the introduction of revolutionary agricultural practices transformed both the Irish landscape and society."
Date: Saturday, April 23, 2005 at 7 P. M.
Where: Capital District Celtic Cultural Association Celtic Hall 327 Columbia Turnpike (East end of Plaza) East Greenbush, NY
Telephone: 479-1029
Web site: www.cdcca.org
Some members of the above genealogy related lists may be interested in attending this lecture.
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
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89 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] TROY AREA DEATH RECORDS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
ANNOUNCING NEW DATABASE: TROY, NY AREA DEATH RECORDS (1890-1895)
This message is being sent to: Rensselaer County List Troy Irish Genealogy Society List Albany County List Saratoga County List Schenectady County List Genealogy-NYS List Irish-NY-Troy List NY Irish List Ulster County List Chenango County List NY-Hudson River List NY-Old-News List US-Obits List NY-Rollcall List NY-Mohawk-Valley List NY-Warren-Washington-Saratoga County List
The message can be forwarded to other lists where you feel it would be appropriate.
If you are researching relatives with a TROY, NY area connection, you will be interested in this new on-line, name searchable, data base of death records which is under construction.
Members of the Troy Irish Genealogy Society have been working with the Rensselaer County Historical Society, 57 Second Street, Troy, NY 12180, in automating various records from the Burden Iron Co. collection of papers.
The latest project which is going on-line, in stages, is a database of deaths from newspaper clippings from Troy, New York newspapers which were collected by employees of the Burden Iron Company. The 73 pages of records cover the period March 1890 through April 1895 and list 6,031 surnames. Records cover individuals from Troy and all the surrounding communities, as well as a number of entries from other areas of New York State and other states. There are even a few records covering deaths in foreign countries. These death records cover the general population in the area and are not restricted to Irish surnames.
All 6,031 records have been date entered and are now being formatted to go on line. As of Thursday, April 21, the first 141 records, whi ch cover ALL surnames beginning with the letter "A" are on line. Subsequent letters of the alphabet will be added as soon as possible and it is expected that all 6,031 records will be available for searching before the end of May.
Twenty-six volunteers from the Rensselaer County mailing list as well as the Troy Irish Genealogy List transcribed these records. Eighteen of the volunteers were from the Troy area while the other volunteers lived in Massachusetts, Iowa, Utah, North Carolina, Michigan, Maryland and California.
You can view these records by going to the Troy Irish Genealogy website located at: 90
www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ and click on TIGS PROJECTS. Check back at the site frequently to see additional death record names as they are added.
You will also be able to review other records automated by TIGS members; Burden Iron Company Steam Mill Payroll Records, Troy Area Marriage Records and an index to names listed in the book, "History of the Troy Police Department". These data bases are part of a continuing effort by the Troy Irish Genealogy Group to make available on line, Troy area records that will be of interest to researchers.
There is a wealth of information in these death notices. In addition to the NAME of the deceased, you MAY find the following information:
Street address of Residence. * Date of Death. * Time of Death. Place of Death. * Cause of Death Age at Death. * Date of Birth. Place of Birth. Occupation. Name of Employer. Maiden Name. Middle Name. Names of other Relatives. Names of In-Laws. Military Rank & Unit Designation. Funeral Services. * Place of Interment. *
* Almost all of the death records will show these particular items.
There are also a number of very moving lengthy obituaries as well as a few memorial poems.
Many of the records carry entries at the end of the obituary like "12-3-t*. It is thought that these entries were for the typesetters and represent the date the notice first ran and how many times it was to be published .
Even if you do not find a surname you are researching, the material is informative about the time period where death came at a very early age to a large number of infants and young people. The material also gives a perspective on funeral customs of the time where nearly all events took place at the family residence, and how some funerals were linked to the arrival of local trains where carriages would be awaiting the arrival of mourners. The given names of the 6,000 plus individuals show the names in vogue during the mid to late 1800's. A large number of notices also carry instructions for out of area newspapers to "PLEASE COPY" the notice and some particular newspapers are even mentioned by name.
I would be interested in hearing from individuals who found the data base useful in locating their relatives. You can write me off list at: [email protected]
I also want to express my thanks to the volunteers for the great job they did on this project.
91 Regards,
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
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92 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] TROY AREA DEATH RECORDS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
BIll~
Thanks for coordinating this project. I'm sure the information will open many doors for those of us researching our families! Keep me posted if you have any other transcription projects in the works!
Best regards,
Pam
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93 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] TROY AREA DEATH RECORDS
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi Pam:
Thank you for all your work.
I have a file of the 6,000 names so if you want a heads up on any of your surnames, let me know and I will copy them and send in a email to you.
Regards,
Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "PampChefPam"
> BIll~ > > Thanks for coordinating this project. I'm sure the information will open > many doors for those of us researching our families! Keep me posted if > you have any other transcription projects in the works! > > Best regards, > > Pam > > ______> Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== > Troy Irish Genealogy Society website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ > > >
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94 Frank Ryan
From: Laura Draiss-LaCroix [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Message from List Administrator on our List Rules
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hi! Thank you for re-posting this. I'm from the Capital District area and am researching my biological maternal family from Troy, NY: William Lewis (ggf), Mary Murphy Lewis(ggm), & Bridget McGinty (gggm, not sure of spelling on McGinty-have not seen any matches). I'm a 5th generation descendent of women who worked at the the Arrow Shirt Factory (Cluett & Peabody) in Troy. Bridget and Mary emigrated here from Co. Sligo when Mary was a child. I'm very familiar with your meeting locations and would love to attend them as time permits..
Laura Draiss-LaCroix Watervliet, NY
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98 Frank Ryan
From: ConnorsGenealogy [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Message from List Administrator on our List Rules
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> > >Bridget McGinty (gggm) >
I would love to hear more about your Bridg et. I have a Mary Ann McEntee b ca 1850 (also know as McGinty) whose parents were Patrick and Bridget. My baby book says they were from Connaught, which encompasses County Sligo and County Mayo. Since I only found MeEntees in County Mayo, also Patrick, I assumed mine came from County Mayo. Mary Ann married my James O'Connor/Connors and they lived in South Troy, not far from Watervliet.
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99 Frank Ryan
From: ConnorsGenealogy [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] state census?
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> > >Is there a 1935 NYS census "coming out" in 2005? > I have all the censuses with their LDS Family History Library film number listed on this page of my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NewYorkState/
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100 Frank Ryan
From: Michael McAlonie [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] griffiths access help
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Hi you used to be able to search Griffith's valuation on godfrey.com but last I looked it was kaput. Is there anywhere else where you can search it for a reasonable amount? If not could some kind soul look something up for me? Boland in Co Westmeath. Prevalent first names Bernard, John, Lawrence, Patrick, William. Near Ballymore/ Athlone/ Moate area? Mother/ wife was supposedly a Katie Kelley. Thanks for the help
Mike
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101 Frank Ryan
From: ConnorsGenealogy [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] griffiths access help
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Hi Mike, I use OrignsNetwork.com which is a subscription website. I did a quick look and found:
Occupier's surname and first, Lessor's surname and first, County, Civil Parish, Townland BOLAND JAMES HOPE MICHL. WESTMEATH BALLYMORE BALLYMORE BOLAND DENIS CORRIGAN THOMAS WESTMEATH CASTLELOST DERRY BOLAND TIMOTHY JUDGE ARTHUR WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND JOHN JUDGE ARTHUR WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND JAMES JUDGE ARTHUR WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND PATRICK PIGOTT WILLIAM WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND JAMES PIGOTT WILLIAM WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND JAMES PIGOTT WILLIAM WESTMEATH KILCUMRERAGH KILCUMRERAGH BOLAND JOHN DIBBS JOHN WESTMEATH MULLINGAR MULLINGAR BOLAND MICHAEL PILKINGTON CHARLES WESTMEATH NEWTOWN RATHGARRETT BOLAND MARGARET PILKINGTON CHARLES WESTMEATH NEWTOWN RATHGARRETT BOLAND CONNOR PILKINGTON HENRY WESTMEATH NEWTOWN RATHGARRETT BOLAND PATRICK BAGNALL WM. WESTMEATH RAHUGH LOWERTOWN BOLAND PATRICK BAGNALL WM. WESTMEATH RAHUGH LOWERTOWN BOLAND THOMAS CHENIVEX S. WESTMEATH RAHUGH MONASSET
BOLAND MORGAN BROWN WESTMEATH ST. MARY'S ATHLONE
BOLLAND PATRICK ENNIS JOHN WESTMEATH ST. MARY'S MEEHAN
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103 Frank Ryan
From: Michael McAlonie [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] griffiths access help
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HI Pat I fond a great map that lists all the parishes in Westmeath. Looks like Kilcumreragh where 6 of that Boland bunch were was adjacent to Ballymore. Is there anyway to take this any further and actually identify where in that townland that family lived? I ordered film from the lds of the ballymore church records, I hope I can pin down a fathers name.
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104 Frank Ryan
From: ConnorsGenealogy [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] griffiths access help
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> > > Is there anyway to take this any further and actually identify where in that townland that family lived? > Mike, other than the big cities like Dublin, Ireland doesn't have street addresses, however, there are Griffith's Valuation maps, that show the plot of land where a family lived. They are available through OriginsNetwork. James Boland is on plot #46 on the Ballmore OS map. I will send them to your privately.
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105 Frank Ryan
From: Laura Draiss-LaCroix [[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Message from List Administrator on our List Rules
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HI.. Although I've seen listings many times for your Bridget and Patrick.. It's not the same Bridget. I learned recently that her dad was John McGinty, mom's maiden name was Carroll. They're all here in Renss. Co. Cemeteries in NY... My Bridget had a sister Mary, but she married a Martin. Good luck in your searches Laura
-----Original Message----- From: ConnorsGenealogy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Message from List Administrator on our List Rules
> > >Bridget McGinty (gggm) >
I would love to hear more about your Bridget. I have a Mary Ann McEntee b ca 1850 (also know as McGinty) whose parents were Patrick and Bridget. My baby book says they were from Connaught, which encompasses County Sligo and County Mayo. Since I only found MeEntees in County Mayo, also Patrick, I assumed mine came from County Mayo. Mary Ann married my James O'Connor/Connors and they lived in South Troy, not far from Watervliet.
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106 Frank Ryan
From: Gertrude Limber [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Martin surname
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My great grandfather, Warren Martin was the oldest son of John Martin of Northumberland, Saratoga co. Warren's youngest sister, Celia Ann married William Ashley and they lived in Troy. On the 1850 Census, their father, John Martin stated that his father had been born in Ireland, and that he was born in Sussex Co, NJ. John Martin m. Elin or Clark, b. 1801 in Ft. Ann, and their children were: Prudence Jane, b. 1828, m. Martin Gifford
Warren, b.1830; m. Cordelia Manchester
Arba, b 1832; m. Anne Smith
John, b. 1834; died young
Sarah Ann, b 1838; m Unknown Brown
Cecelia Ann, b 1842; m William Ashley
The Martin surname is on the list, and I would be glad to exchange notes with other Martin descendants.
Trudy Limber, Carmel, CA
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107 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Martin surname
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Trudy, this is a real long shot but; my gr-grandfather was Michael Cooney born Ire. 11/1860, in Troy NY 1865. I followed him through the census, directories, etc. and all I had was that he was married to Margaret, born 7/1865. Recently found record of the marriage of their daughter in St. Patricks in Troy. That record showed Margaret's surname to be Martin. Did you have any Martins In Troy? Do you have anything on a Margaret born 1865 to any of your Martins? I have found only one good possibility, th at being a John Martin in the 1870 census, Town of Hoosick (not far fromTroy). John born in Ireland, 50 at the time of the census, wife Margaret E. (32 yrs) with children Catherine 12, James 8, MARGARET 5 and William 4. One other a Edward Martin in 6th Ward, Troy, with a MARGARET aged 8? and then a John Martin in Schaticoke(near Troy) with MARGARET aged 1? I know that the census takers erred on ages often. Anything in your records?? Kristin Cooney-Ayotte
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108 Frank Ryan
From: Jeanne M. Keefe [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Burden Death Records webpage complete
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Hello everyone, I have completed the Burden Death Records web page and now all 6000+ names are viewable. Please see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/Project-BurdenDeathRecordsPage.htm . Happy hunting! Jeanne
Jeanne M. Keefe Vice President, Visual Resources Association < http://www.vraweb.org/ >www.vraweb.org Visual Resources Librarian Architecture Library Greene Building, Rm 306 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Tel: 518-276-2727 Fax: 518-276-6753 E-mail: [email protected]
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109 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Martin surname
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Hi Trudy:
In reply to your posting on the name Martin, I have two Martin's in my family tree.
1. Thomas J. Martin married my relative Mary E. McCormick
Thomas was born in Troy, NY to James and Mary Martin. He died in Troy on September 25, 1949. Mr. Martin was a retired Captain in the Troy Fire Department.
Thomas and his wife Mary McCormick had no children. His obit indicates there were no immediate survivors.
Outside of the newspaper obit and funeral notice, that is all I know about him.
2. A Mary Martin married a Maurice Rainey, most likely in Troy, in the mid 1850's. His son, Maurice, married Anna Carroll, a sister of my grandmother Mary Elizabeth O'Connor.
That is all I know about Mary Martin.
Not much to go on.
Regards,
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gertrude Limber"
> My great grandfather, Warren Martin was the oldest son of John Martin of > Northumberland, Saratoga co. Warren's youngest sister, Celia Ann married > William Ashley and they lived in Troy. On the 1850 Census, their father, > John Martin stated that his father had been born in Ireland, and that he > was born in Sussex Co, NJ. John Martin m. Elinor Clark, b. 1801 in Ft. > Ann, and their children were: > Prudence Jane, b. 1828, m. Martin Gifford > > Warren, b.1830; m. Cordelia Manchester 110 > > Arba, b 1832; m. Anne Smith > > John, b. 1834; died young > > Sarah Ann, b 1838; m Unknown Brown > > Cecelia Ann, b 1842; m William Ashley > > > > The Martin surname is on the list, and I would be glad to exchange notes > with other Martin descendants. > > Trudy Limber, Carmel, CA > >
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111 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Burden Death Records webpage complete
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Jeanne thanks for all your efforts, it is fantastic. kris
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112 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
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Well that e-mail failed terribly, sorry about that. Jim Baker forwarded to me some information concerning the town of Emly and asked that I forward to the list. Emly has a website _www.emly.ie_ (http://www.emly.ie ) that gives some history of the town. As the list is aware many of our Troy Irish emigrated from Emly. Please take the time to visit their site. I suggest we contact them and form a Brother/Sister Hood, kind of like "Adopt a Village". There must be people there looking for family that came to Troy, perhaps we could be of assistance and they in turn could assist us.....since I have no family from that area, this is not personal but from what I have heard at some meetings there is a big Troy connection, I say we reconnect....they do have a guestbook, as we visit their site we can sign in as members of TIGS.....i suggest we fill their guestbook.....Kris
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113 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Emly
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Kris, As you are the current secretary and VP candidate, why don't you go ahead and contact them as you suggested, and explain the Emly connection with TIGS? If I were you, I would Email or write to them directly, rather than just post on their guestbook.
They DO have a very nice website! Pictures of Emly, history, etc. But no actual records are posted. They mention "well-kept parish records." I have a feeling that they charge for research, but they do not say this on the site so I could be wrong. They do charge $200 for a memorial to their emigrant wall.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
Well that e-mail failed terribly, sorry about that. Jim Baker forwarded to me some information concerning the town of Emly and asked that I forward to the list. Emly has a website _www.emly.ie_ (http://www.emly.ie ) that gives some history of the town. As the list is aw are many of our Troy Irish emigrated from Emly. Please take the time to visit their site. I suggest we contact them and form a Brother/Sister Hood, kind of like "Adopt a Village". There must be people there looking for family that came to Troy, perhaps we could be of assistance and they in turn could assist us.....since I have no family from that area, this is not personal but from what I have heard at some meetings there is a big Troy connection, I say we reconnect....they do have a guestbook, as we visit their site we can sign in as members of TIGS.....i suggest we fill their guestbook.....Kris
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114 Frank Ryan
From: Lynn Grice [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
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I'd like to thank Kris for reminding me of the apparent connection between Troy and the village of Emly in Co. Tipperary. I had c ompiled some information on this topic close to two years ago. Since the TIGS website was not functional at that time, I had filed my notes away and forgot about them.
I will retrieve the information now for posting on the website and would like to g ive advance credit to Jim Baker (Troy), Janet Crawford (?, Co. Tipperary), Father Seamus Rochford (Emly) and the late Des Mulhall (Emly) for their kind advice and assistance.
Lynn Carey Grice
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115 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
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As mentioned previously in a write-up on research techniques, you should always look for the newspaper story on the funeral services for the deceased. While this is generally not done in the papers today, the earlier years of the Troy newspapers always carried such an item.
The useful information in these articles is the name of the pall bearers which show family name connecti ons and in some cases, identifies the relationship to the deceased. Many of the items I have collected mention in the write-up my mother, Mary Elizabeth O'Connor McGrath (1901-1981) as the organist in St. Michael's Church, Troy and my Aunt, Agnes Theresa O'Connor (1912-2002) as the soloist. Most of my family resided in St. Michael's Parish and the large number of surnames in the O'Connor, McCormick, Halpin, Keating and McGrath lines buried from St. Michael's have my mother mentioned as the organist in the write-up.
Also outlined in the newspaper articles are the songs used at the burial service. The titles of the songs are generally unknown to us today since they are no longer used in the liturgy, but they sound like there were beautiful and appropriate to the occasion. I have looked through my collection of burials notices on family members and have come up with the following list of songs, the year of the funeral and the family name involved. Many of the songs were used by the same family names over a nd over. This list may be of interest to list members.
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
ABIDE WITH ME 1925 - Halpin 1948 - Bouchey
AVE MARIA 1922 - McCormick 1925 - Halpin 1933 - Malanify 1936 - Halpin 1938 - Keating 1939 - Halpin 1940 - McCormick 1941 - O'Connor 1943 - McCormick 1945 - Zepf 1946 - Carroll 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath 1952 - McCormick
CHRISTIAN'S GOODNIGHT 1936 - Carroll
116 DOMINE JESU CHRISTE 1938 - McGrath 1938 - Gleason 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McGrath 1957 - McCormick 1958 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
HARK, HARK MY SOUL 1939 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey
HEART OF JESUS HEAR 1938 - Purcell
HEAVEN IS MY HOME 1940 - McCormick
IN PARIDISIUM 1949 - Martin 1955 - McGrath
JERUSALEM, MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McCormick
JESUS, SAVIOR OF MY SOUL 1924 - Post 1948 - Bouchey 1952 - Gleason
JESUS, THOU ART COMING 1960 - O'Connor
LADY OF THE WAY 1943 - Martin
LUX ETERNA 1938 - Purcell
MARY UNTO THEE I CALL 1960 - O'Connor
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MISERERE 1938 - McGrath 1939 - Gleason 1941 - O'Connor 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1949 - Martin 1949 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McGrath 1956 - McCormick 1957 - McCormick 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1963 - Manning
MOTHER AT YOUR FEET IS KNEELING 1947 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick
MOTHER DEAR, O PRAY FOR ME 1936 - Halpin 1938 - McGrath 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath
MOTHER OF CHRIST 1956 - McGrath
MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin
MY HEAVENLY HOME 1925 - Halpin 1939 - Halpin
O SALUTARIS 1938 - Purcell 1949 - Martin
ON RESURRECTION MORNING 1948 - McGrath
OUT OF THE DEPTHS 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
PANIS ANGELICUS 1954 - Malanify
118 1955 - McGrath
PEACE, PERFECT PEACE 1943 - McCormick 1946 - Carroll 1952 - Gleason
PIE JESU 1925 - Halpin 1956 - Dillon
SOFTLY AND TENDERLY JESUS IS CALLING 1933 - Malanify 1943 - McCormick 1947 - McGrath 1954 - Malanify
SOFTLY NOW THE LIGHT OF DAY 1941 - O'Connor 1957 - McCormick 1959 - O'Connor
SOUL OF MY SAVIOUR 1958 - McGrath 1960 - Akin
THE LAND OF ETERNAL LIGHT 1922 - McCormick
VALE 1933 - Malanify
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120 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
If anyone comes to my funeral, please be sure they play "HOW GREAT THOU ART." (Not anytime soon, please)
Donna -----Original Message----- From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
As mentioned previously in a write-up on research techniques, you should always look for the newspaper story on the funeral services for the deceased. While this is generally not done in the papers today, the earlier years of the Troy newspapers always carried such an item.
The useful information in these articles is the name of the pall bearers which show family name connections and in some cases, identifies the relationship t o the deceased. Many of the items I have collected mention in the write-up my mother, Mary Elizabeth O'Connor McGrath (1901-1981) as the organist in St. Michael's Church, Troy and my Aunt, Agnes Theresa O'Connor (1912-2002) as the soloist. Most of my family resided in St. Michael's Parish and the large number of surnames in the O'Connor, McCormick, Halpin, Keating and McGrath lines buried from St. Michael's have my mother mentioned as the organist in the write-up.
Also outlined in the newspaper articles are the songs used at the burial service. The titles of the songs are generally unknown to us today since they are no longer used in the liturgy, but they sound like there were beautiful and appropriate to the occasion. I have looked through my collection of burials notices on family members and have come up with the following list of songs, the year of the funeral and the family name involved. Many of the songs were used by the same family names over and over. This list may be of interest to list members.
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
ABIDE WITH ME 1925 - Halpin 1948 - Bouchey
AVE MARIA 1922 - McCormick 1925 - Halpin 1933 - Malanify 1936 - Halpin 1938 - Keating 1939 - Halpin 1940 - McCormick 121 1941 - O'Connor 1943 - McCormick 1945 - Zepf 1946 - Carroll 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath 1952 - McCormick
CHRISTIAN'S GOODNIGHT 1936 - Carroll
DOMINE JESU CHRISTE 1938 - McGrath 1938 - Gleason 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McGrath 1957 - McCormick 1958 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
HARK, HARK MY SOUL 1939 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey
HEART OF JESUS HEAR 1938 - Purcell
HEAVEN IS MY HOME 1940 - McCormick
IN PARIDISIUM 1949 - Martin 1955 - McGrath
JERUSALEM, MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McCormick
JESUS, SAVIOR OF MY SOUL 1924 - Post 1948 - Bouchey 1952 - Gleason
122 JESUS, THOU ART COMING 1960 - O'Connor
LADY OF THE WAY 1943 - Martin
LUX ETERNA 1938 - Purcell
MARY UNTO THEE I CALL 1960 - O'Connor
MISERERE 1938 - McGrath 1939 - Gleason 1941 - O'Connor 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1949 - Martin 1949 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McGrath 1956 - McCormick 1957 - McCormick 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1963 - Manning
MOTHER AT YOUR FEET IS KNEELING 1947 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick
MOTHER DEAR, O PRAY FOR ME 1936 - Halpin 1938 - McGrath 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath
MOTHER OF CHRIST 1956 - McGrath
MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin
MY HEAVENLY HOME 1925 - Halpin 1939 - Halpin
O SALUTARIS 1938 - Purcell
123 1949 - Martin
ON RESURRECTION MORNING 1948 - McGrath
OUT OF THE DEPTHS 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
PANIS ANGELICUS 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath
PEACE, PERFECT PEACE 1943 - McCormick 1946 - Carroll 1952 - Gleason
PIE JESU 1925 - Halpin 1956 - Dillon
SOFTLY AND TENDERLY JESUS IS CALLING 1933 - Malanify 1943 - McCormick 1947 - McGrath 1954 - Malanify
SOFTLY NOW THE LIGHT OF DAY 1941 - O'Connor 1957 - McCormick 1959 - O'Connor
SOUL OF MY SAVIOUR 1958 - McGrath 1960 - Akin
THE LAND OF ETERNAL LIGHT 1922 - McCormick
VALE 1933 - Malanify
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125 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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I would like to propose that those who are interested in dinner before our meeting could gather at a local restaurant before the next meeting (Thurs. May 19). I would suggest meeting someplace between 5-5:30, and then having our business meeting start at City Hall at 6:30. I love the social gathering outside of the meeting, but it is too late for me afterwards.
Is anyone who attends the local meetings interested in this idea?
Thanks,
Donna
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126 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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Donna,
It sounds like a good idea to me and when possible, I would love to join the group for dinner.
Kay B
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127 Frank Ryan
From: Jeanne M. Keefe [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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I am. Jeanne
At 09:57 AM 4/29/2005, you wrote: >I would like to propose that those who are interested in dinner before >our meeting could gather at a local restaurant before the next meeting (Thurs. >May 19). I would suggest meeting someplace between 5-5:30, and then >having our business meeting start at City Hall at 6:30. I love the >social gathering outside of the meeting, but it is too late for me afterwards. > > > >Is anyone who attends the local meetings interested in this idea? > > > >Thanks, > >Donna > > > >==== NY-TROY-IRISH-GENSOC Mailing List ==== Troy Irish Genealogy >Society website http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/
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128 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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Sorry I will be out of town. Carol
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129 Frank Ryan
From: Donna Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
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Oh my, in reading my posting (below), I hope that didn't sound like I chose that song for my funeral because I think I'M great (How Great Thou Art). It's just one of my favorite spiritual songs. Obviously, the song is about Our Higher Power and how great GOD is. Not to make a religious statement on the list. (I'm reall y trying NOT to offend anyone here!)
Seriously, I was surprised not to see that song on the list of funeral songs that Bill provided, as it's pretty popular for funerals. But I guess families do choose to repeat the same songs as part of their own family ritual.
How Great Thou Art was written over a hundred years ago and is used in many different denominational churches.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: Donna Vaughn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
If anyone comes to my funeral, please be sure they play "HOW GREAT THOU ART." (Not anytime soon, please)
Donna -----Original Message----- From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
As mentioned previously in a write-up on research techniques, you should always look for the newspaper story on the funeral services for the deceased. While this is generally not done in the papers today, the earlier years of the Troy newspapers always carried such an item.
The useful information in these articles is the name of the pall bearers which show family name connections and in some cases, identifies the relationship to the deceased. Many of the items I have collected mention in the write-up my mother, Mary Elizabeth O'Connor McGrath (1901-1981) as the organist in St. Michael's Church, Troy and my Aunt, Agnes Theresa O'Connor (1912-2002) as the soloist. Most of my family resided in St. Michael's Parish and the large number of surnames in the O'Connor, McCormick, Halpin, Keating and McGrath lines buried from St. Michael's have my mother mentioned as the organist in the write-up.
Also outlined in the newspaper articles are the songs used at the burial service. The titles of the songs are generally unknown to us today since they are no longer used in the liturgy, but they sound like there were beautiful and appropriate to the occasion. I have looked 130 through my collection of burials notices on family members and have come up with the following list of songs, the year of the funeral and the family name involved. Many of the songs were used by the same family names over and over. This list may be of interest to list members.
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
ABIDE WITH ME 1925 - Halpin 1948 - Bouchey
AVE MARIA 1922 - McCormick 1925 - Halpin 1933 - Malanify 1936 - Halpin 1938 - Keating 1939 - Halpin 1940 - McCormick 1941 - O'Connor 1943 - McCormick 1945 - Zepf 1946 - Carroll 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath 1952 - McCormick
CHRISTIAN'S GOODNIGHT 1936 - Carroll
DOMINE JESU CHRISTE 1938 - McGrath 1938 - Gleason 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McGrath 1957 - McCormick 1958 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
HARK, HARK MY SOUL 1939 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey
131
HEART OF JESUS HEAR 1938 - Purcell
HEAVEN IS MY HOME 1940 - McCormick
IN PARIDISIUM 1949 - Martin 1955 - McGrath
JERUSALEM, MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McCormick
JESUS, SAVIOR OF MY SOUL 1924 - Post 1948 - Bouchey 1952 - Gleason
JESUS, THOU ART COMING 1960 - O'Connor
LADY OF THE WAY 1943 - Martin
LUX ETERNA 1938 - Purcell
MARY UNTO THEE I CALL 1960 - O'Connor
MISERERE 1938 - McGrath 1939 - Gleason 1941 - O'Connor 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1949 - Martin 1949 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McGrath 1956 - McCormick 1957 - McCormick 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1963 - Manning
MOTHER AT YOUR FEET IS KNEELING 1947 - McGrath
132 1950 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick
MOTHER DEAR, O PRAY FOR ME 1936 - Halpin 1938 - McGrath 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath
MOTHER OF CHRIST 1956 - McGrath
MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin
MY HEAVENLY HOME 1925 - Halpin 1939 - Halpin
O SALUTARIS 1938 - Purcell 1949 - Martin
ON RESURRECTION MORNING 1948 - McGrath
OUT OF THE DEPTHS 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
PANIS ANGELICUS 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath
PEACE, PERFECT PEACE 1943 - McCormick 1946 - Carroll 1952 - Gleason
PIE JESU 1925 - Halpin 1956 - Dillon
SOFTLY AND TENDERLY JESUS IS CALLING 1933 - Malanify 1943 - McCormick 1947 - McGrath 1954 - Malanify
SOFTLY NOW THE LIGHT OF DAY 1941 - O'Connor 1957 - McCormick 1959 - O'Connor
SOUL OF MY SAVIOUR 1958 - McGrath 1960 - Akin
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THE LAND OF ETERNAL LIGHT 1922 - McCormick
VALE 1933 - Malanify
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135 Frank Ryan
From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] TROY OR NORTH GREENBUSH?
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The following information may help researchers looking at South Troy records.
My McCormick's, Halpin's and Keating's all lived on Forbes Avenue, which is the very last street on the left just before crossing the Troy-Menands Bridge over the Hudson River.
I have found most records of these family names in the Troy City re cords but was puzzled that earlier records were not there.
In looking at the McCormick name in the 1900 census recently, I found my answer to the puzzle. The census page for my McCormick family was identified as North Greenbush, NY (not Troy) and annotated with the words "Annexed to City of Troy - January 1, 1901". So that section of South Troy was the Town of North Greenbush prior to January 1, 1901 and my missing records would be in the North Greenbush vital statistics office instead of in Troy.
To top it off, the census taker had sloppy handwriting so Matthew McCormick and one of his sons names Matthew, were listed in the census index as "Watherin McCormick" and "Wathern McCormick Jr."
Regards,
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
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136 Frank Ryan
From: Gertrude Limber [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Martin surname
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From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
I would love to go, but the time would be too early for me. I usually do not get out till 5PM and sometimes a little later than that. Maybe we could order pizza and have it delivered if it is allowed.
Lizette
-----Original Message----- From: Donna Vaughn
I would like to propose that those who are interested in dinner before our meeting could gather at a local restaurant before the next meeting (Thurs. May 19). I would suggest meeting someplace between 5-5:30, and then having our business meeting start at City Hall at 6:30. I love the social gathering outside of the meeting, but it is too late for me afterwards.
Is anyone who attends the local meetings interested in this idea?
Thanks,
Donna
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138 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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I don't get home from work until about 5:45, sorry can't make it. Good idea though for those that can. I know everyone is hungry at the meetings now adays... Kris
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139 Frank Ryan
From: ConnorsGenealogy [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
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If you are looking for Emly records, I have transcribed the Griffith's Valuation for both the townland and the village and have them on a website I host at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip/townlands/EmlyT.htm
Under links, you will find the link that was recently posted to the list plus others, which have been up there for almost a year.
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140 Frank Ryan
From: Richard Shea [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Proposal for the next meeting
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Donna, Eileen and I plan to attend on the 20th, sound good to us depending on where. Other then the South End Tavern we're not sure what's left that we could still get to City Hall in time. Rick
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141 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
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Donna Vaughn
Seriously, I was surprised not to see that song on the list of funeral songs that Bill provided, as it's pretty popular for funerals. But I guess families do choose to repeat the same songs as part of their own family ritual.
How Great Thou Art was written over a hundred years ago and is used in many different denominational churches.
Donna
-----Original Message----- From: Donna Vaughn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
If anyone comes to my funeral, please be sure they play "HOW GREAT THOU ART." (Not anytime soon, please)
Donna -----Original Message----- From: Bill and Cathy McGrath [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
As mentioned previously in a write-up on research techniques, you should always look for the newspaper story on the funeral services for the deceased. While this is generally no t done in the papers today, the earlier years of the Troy newspapers always carried such an item.
The useful information in these articles is the name of the pall bearers which show family name connections and in some cases, identifies the relationship to the deceased. Many of the items I have collected mention in the write-up my mother, Mary Elizabeth O'Connor McGrath (1901-1981) as the organist in St. Michael's Church, Troy and my Aunt, Agnes Theresa O'Connor (1912-2002) as the soloist. Most of my family resided in St. Michael's Parish and the large number of surnames in the O'Connor, McCormick, Halpin, Keating and McGrath lines buried from St. Michael's have my mother mentioned as the organist in the write-up.
142 Also outlined in the newspaper articles are the songs used at the burial service. The titles of the songs are generally unknown to us today since they are no longer used in the liturgy, but they sound like there were beautiful and appropriate to the occasion. I have looked through my collection of burials notices on family members and have come up with the following list of songs, the year of the funeral and the family name involved. Many of the songs were used by the same family names over and over. This list may be of interest to list members.
Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY
ABIDE WITH ME 1925 - Halpin 1948 - Bouchey
AVE MARIA 1922 - McCormick 1925 - Halpin 1933 - Malanify 1936 - Halpin 1938 - Keating 1939 - Halpin 1940 - McCormick 1941 - O'Connor 1943 - McCormick 1945 - Zepf 1946 - Carroll 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath 1952 - McCormick
CHRISTIAN'S GOODNIGHT 1936 - Carroll
DOMINE JESU CHRISTE 1938 - McGrath 1938 - Gleason 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McGrath 1957 - McCormick 1958 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
HARK, HARK MY SOUL 1939 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1954 - Malanify
143 1955 - McGrath 1959 - O'Connor 1962 - Casey
HEART OF JESUS HEAR 1938 - Purcell
HEAVEN IS MY HOME 1940 - McCormick
IN PARIDISIUM 1949 - Martin 1955 - McGrath
JERUSALEM, MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin 1956 - McCormick 1956 - McCormick
JESUS, SAVIOR OF MY SOUL 1924 - Post 1948 - Bouchey 1952 - Gleason
JESUS, THOU ART COMING 1960 - O'Connor
LADY OF THE WAY 1943 - Martin
LUX ETERNA 1938 - Purcell
MARY UNTO THEE I CALL 1960 - O'Connor
MISERERE 1938 - McGrath 1939 - Gleason 1941 - O'Connor 1947 - McGrath 1948 - Bouchey 1949 - Martin 1949 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath 1956 - Dillon 1956 - McGrath 1956 - McCormick 1957 - McCormick 1960 - Akin 1960 - O'Connor 1963 - Manning
144
MOTHER AT YOUR FEET IS KNEELING 1947 - McGrath 1950 - Gleason 1952 - McCormick
MOTHER DEAR, O PRAY FOR ME 1936 - Halpin 1938 - McGrath 1948 - Halpin 1949 - McGrath
MOTHER OF CHRIST 1956 - McGrath
MY HAPPY HOME 1943 - Martin
MY HEAVENLY HOME 1925 - Halpin 1939 - Halpin
O SALUTARIS 1938 - Purcell 1949 - Martin
ON RESURRECTION MORNING 1948 - McGrath
OUT OF THE DEPTHS 1962 - Casey 1963 - Manning
PANIS ANGELICUS 1954 - Malanify 1955 - McGrath
PEACE, PERFECT PEACE 1943 - McCormick 1946 - Carroll 1952 - Gleason
PIE JESU 1925 - Halpin 1956 - Dillon
SOFTLY AND TENDERLY JESUS IS CALLING 1933 - Malanify 1943 - McCormick 1947 - McGrath 1954 - Malanify
SOFTLY NOW THE LIGHT OF DAY 1941 - O'Connor 1957 - McCormick 1959 - O'Connor
145 SOUL OF MY SAVIOUR 1958 - McGrath 1960 - Akin
THE LAND OF ETERNAL LIGHT 1922 - McCormick
VALE 1933 - Malanify
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147 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TIGS] Obits & Funeral Music
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In regards to church music, our priest last weekend told this story:
A preacher was giving his homily and told the congregation "we should pour all the liquor in the river". The congregation gave a big "AMEN". He continued by stating "we should then pour all the wine in the river"; another big "AMEN" followed. Finally he stated "we should then pour all the beer in the river"; that too was followed by a big "AMEN". The preacher goes and sits to wait for the music director to start. The music director just stands there looking at the preacher then out to the congregation and then back to the preacher. He slowly walks to the microphone and gently says our next hymn is "Shall We Gather at The River".
I think that'd have to my funeral song...being Irish and all!
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148 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Nominating Committee Results
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I lived on First St. in South Troy.... The real south troy, below canal ave. I lived at 433. My great aunt Elizabeth Cleary owned several houses in South Troy.
Pat
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149 Frank Ryan
From: PampChefPam [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Nominating Committee Results
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We lived at 430 First Street when I was little (1960's). My grandparents (Marie [Clancy] & John Powers) owned the house we lived in. We were on the first floor and my g. aunt and uncle lived upstairs. (Mary & Mike Nugent. She was a nurse and worked at Eden Park Nursing home but helped several of the neighbors at times.)
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150 Frank Ryan
From: Donna K. Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] Subject lines
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS
Just a gentle reminder, please change the subject line if it no longer has to do with what you are posting.
Thanks, Donna List Administrator
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151 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: RE: [TIGS] Emly
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I never have been charged for any information I have gotten from the parish of Emly.
They have been more than generous with their time and information; needless to say, I did make a contribution to the church, but I was not asked to do so at any time.
I think linking up with Emly is an excellent idea.
One of the reasons they charge $200 for the inscription on their monument, exactly the same charge I paid for an Ellis Island inscription by the way, is the hope to restore one of their wonderful little buildings (near the church, and I forget what it used to be). They wanted to turn this into a genealogical center for all of the descendents of those who left Emly. They did not raise nearly enough from the monument in 2000 to restore their buildings.
I got a couple of relatives to kick in with me for our inscription, so the cost was not awful, and this center would be totally to our advantage.
I went to one day of Failte Week 2000. The lecture and events I attended were wonderful, and the hospitality superb. If you have an Emly connection and can go, I would suggest you do so.
Now I will climb off my soapbox. :o)
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152 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] OBIT for POST
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Wondering if someone can locate OBIT's for husband and wife. Paul J. Post born 1915 in Troy, Re nssalear Co. died September 1988 (believe in Wynantskill, Renssalear Co.) OBIT for his wife Ruth DENNIN POST born 1916 in Essex Co. died September 1983 Renssalear Co. Thank you, Jayne
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153 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
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Hello
Helen Batters Rowley here, and I am so happy to see the name of EMLY appearing!
I narrowed down the strongest possibilities of a place in Ireland that the Batters family emigrated from, and I came up with Emly. I have wanted to get to more research for a long time. I have visited their lovely website and imagined my ancestors living there. I will be happy to contribute if we as a group can "adopt" the village - or give a group lump sum contribution for information kept there.
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154 Frank Ryan
From: Donna K. Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] O'Connor part 1 (National Hibernian)
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>From The National Hibernian, "Genealogical Department" column, Nov. 1924:
"The O'Connor, O'Connor, Connor, Conners, etc.: one of the most numerous and widespread of Irish family names. The name signifies high-will or desire; it is an ancient personal name. There are at least six distinct families so called, namely: the Connors of Connacht, who derive their name and descent from Concobar, King of Connacht in the latter part of the 10th century, and were long the ruling race in that province, and of whom 2 became kings of all Ireland. They were divided into 3 great branches: O'Concobar ?Oonn (the brown O'Connor), O'Concobar Ruad (the red O'Connor) and O'Concobar Sligoac (the O'Connor of Sligo). The present head of the family is known as the O'Conor Don. 2. The O'Connors of Offaly, who derive their descent from Ros Failghe, son of Cathabir Mor, King of Ireland in the second century, and their surname from Concobar, son of Flonn, Lord of Offaly, who died in the year 979. They were a powerful and warlike race, and for more than 300 years succ! essfully defended their territory against the English of the Pale. Their chief stronghold was Dangan, now Philipstown. They were dispossessed in the reign of Philip and Mary." to be continued....
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155 Frank Ryan
From: Pamela Ward [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Emly
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Helen,
Are youi related to any of the Rowleys from Troy???
Pam
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Hello
Helen Batters Rowley here, and I am so happy to see the name of EMLY appearing!
I narrowed down the strongest possibilities of a place in Ireland that the Batters family emigrated from, and I came up with Emly. I have wanted to get to more research for a long time. I have visited their lovely website and imagined my ancestors living there. I will be happy to contribute if we as a group can "adopt" the village - or give a group lump sum contribution for information kept there.
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156 Frank Ryan
From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TIGS] Nominating Committee Results
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Did your Elizabeth Cleary live in Troy, NY? I am seeking information on Elizabeth Cleary who lived in Ballston Spa, NY. Carol
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157 Frank Ryan
From: Donna K. Vaughn [[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TIGS] o'connor part 2 (national hibernian)
Categories: GENEALOGY TIGS part 2 of O'Connor from the National Hibernian Genealogical Department, Nov. 1924
"3. O'Connor of Kerry. Before the Anglo-Norman invasion the head of this family was lord of that portion of Kerry lying between Tralee and the Shannon, but owing to the encroachments of the Fitzmaurices and other Anglo Norman settlers, this territory was narrowed down to the limits of the present barony of Iraghticonor, which remained in the possession of the family until the close of the reign of Elizabeth, when it was confiscated and given to Trinity College. The chief stronghold of the O'Connors was Carrigafoyle, near Ballylongford. 4. O'Connor of Corcomroe. This family derives its name from Concobar, son of ?Maelaeachlain, lord of Corcomroe, who was slain in the year 1002, and the head of the family was lord of the barony of Corcomore in West Clare, down to the close of the 16th century. 5. O'Connor of Keenaght. The head of this family was lord of ?C____, now the barony of Keenaght in County Derry until dispossessed by the family of O'Kane, shortly before the An! glo-Norman invasion. 6. O'Connor of Ul Bru_____a branch of the O______." (Sorry, that part of the copy was pretty blurred.)
If anyone can actually use this information because they have gotten back that far, I am VERY jealous.
Donna
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