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First Session - Thirty-Eighth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LIV No. 1 – 1:30 p.m., Monday, June 23, 2003 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY First Session–Thirty-Eighth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. BJORNSON, Peter Gimli N.D.P. BRICK, Marilyn St. Norbert N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage la Prairie P.C. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach P.C. HAWRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HICKES, George, Hon. Point Douglas N.D.P. IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri Fort Garry N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. JHA, Bidhu Radisson N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MELNICK, Christine Riel N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn, Hon. Minto N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. OSWALD, Theresa Seine River N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Carman P.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. ROWAT, Leanne Minnedosa P.C. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 1 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, June 23, 2003 The House met at 1:30 p.m. The Lieutenant-Governor seated himself on the throne; the Sergeant-at-Arms made obeisance At 1:30 p.m., the Sergeant-at-Arms, carrying the with the Mace and retired to the east side of the Mace in the crook of his arm and followed by the Chamber. clerks of the Legislative Assembly, entered the Hon. Gord Mackintosh (Minister of Justice Chamber. The Sergeant-at-Arms returned to the and Attorney General): I am directed by His main entrance of the Chamber and shouldered Honour the Lieutenant-Governor to inform you the Mace. The clerks took post on the west side that he will not declare the causes of calling this of the Chamber, stood and awaited the arrival of Legislature until a Speaker has been elected in His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor. accordance with the law. Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): I am Madam Clerk: Please be seated. Members of pleased to advise the Assembly that I have the Legislative Assembly, pursuant to the received from the Chief Electoral Officer the Lieutenant-Governor's direction and the rules of lists of names of members elected to serve in the this Assembly, it is my duty to call upon you to Thirty-Eighth Legislature, and I am tabling those elect a member to preside over your delibera- lists. tions as Speaker. Would the Sergeant-at-Arms and the Deputy Sergeant-at-Arms please place The Premier and the military and civil aides the voting booths and the ballot box in position? accompanied His Honour to the Chamber in the Would the pages please distribute the list of following order: candidates to all members' desks and place one in each voting booth? The civil aide on the right; The military aide on the left; For your information before beginning the The Premier; election, I will briefly outline the process to be The Lieutenant-Governor. followed as set out in the Rules of the House. At the main entrance, the military and civil aides For each round of balloting, members will halted and turned inwards to allow the be asked to go to the blue carpets behind the Lieutenant-Governor and the Premier to proceed third row of desks on their respective sides of the through the north doors, where His Honour was House, then file past the Speaker's Chair and met by the Mace. down the steps to the head of the Clerk's table. At the table, each MLA will be asked to initial a Deputy Sergeant-at-Arms (Mr. Blake Dunn): list to verify that they have received a ballot. His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor. Please proceed to the nearest voting booth. In the voting booth, please print or write legibly the The Lieutenant-Governor then, preceded by the surname of the candidate you support on the Mace carried shoulder high and followed on his ballot paper, place it in the ballot box at the end left by the military aide and on his right by the of the Clerk's table and please return to your civil aide, proceeded along the west side of the place. You can only vote for one candidate, so Chamber to the throne. The Premier proceeded please do not list or rank all of the candidates. along the east side and stood on the floor on the Only write the surname of one candidate. east side of the Chamber. When all members wishing to vote have The military aide took up his position on the east done so, the House will recess while the clerks side of the throne and the civil aide took up his withdraw to count the vote. A majority of votes position on the west side of the throne. cast is required to elect the Speaker. If both 2 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 23, 2003 candidates receive the same number of votes, no Madam Clerk: Honourable members, the Mem- name will be dropped from the next ballot. ber for Point Douglas has received the majority Immediately before the start of the second or any of the ballots cast. Pursuant to the rules, I declare subsequent ballot, members who wish to with- George Hickes, the honourable Member for draw will be given an opportunity to do so. Point Douglas, elected as Speaker of the Thirty- When the count of each ballot is completed, a Eighth Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. five-minute bell will ring to call the members to the Chamber. The Premier and the Leader of the Opposition escorted the newly elected Speaker to the Chair * (13:40) and he was invested with the robes of office. The following members have declared their intention to stand for election to the office of The Mace was then placed on the table. Speaker. The candidates are, in alphabetic order, * (14:10) George Hickes and Conrad Santos. In prepa- ration for the vote, the Sergeant-at-Arms will Mr. Speaker: Honourable members of the inspect and lock the ballot box. Thirty-Eighth Legislative Assembly, I wish to thank the members for the high honour the The list of candidates is on each member's House has conferred on me. I leave the floor of desk and in each of the two voting booths. I will this House to take the Speaker's Chair. I leave now open the sealed ballots and proceed with the behind all political and partisan feelings and I beginning of the voting procedure. intend to carry out the important duties of the I will now ask those members who wish to Speaker of the Legislative Assembly with impar- cast their ballots to proceed to the blue carpet tiality and to the best of my abilities. behind the third row of seating on your respec- [Inuktitut spoken] tive sides of the House and then file past the Speaker's Chair and to the head of the clerk's What I said to you was thank you very much table where each will receive a ballot. Each for your support and I will do the best job I can. MLA's name will be checked off the list once they have been given a ballot and each MLA will I would like to take this opportunity to thank be asked to initial the list. Please then proceed to the clerks in the Clerk's Office and all the other the voting booth on the side of the table nearest offices that were involved in organizing the you. Please print or write legibly the surname of events today. I think we owe them a great round your candidate on the ballot paper, then proceed of thank you for a job well done. to the ballot box and place your ballot paper in the ballot box. The Speaker then took the Chair. The Premier left the Chamber to meet His If there are any members who have not Honour in the reception room. The clerks took voted and who wish to do so, would you please post on the west side of the Chamber.