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Debates Proceedings Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Speaker The Honourable Peter Fox Vol. XV!ll No. 2:30 Thursday, June 24th, 1971. Third Session, 29th Legislature. 88 p.m., R. Printed by S. Evans - Queen's Printer forProvince of Manitoba ELECTORAL DIVISION NAME ADDRESS ARTHUR J. Douglas Watt Reston, Manitoba Steve Patrick Red Robin Place, Winnipeg ASSINIBOIA 10 12 BI RTLE-RUSSELL Harry E. Graham Binscarth, Manitoba Hon. Leonard S. Evans Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg BRANDON EAST 1 Edward McGill Princess Ave., Brandon, Man. BRANDON WEST 222B Hon. Ben Hanuschak Legislative Building, Winnipeg BURROWS 1 Arthur Moug Willow Ridge Rd., Winnipeg CHAR LESWOOD 29 20 Gordon Wilbert Beard Riverside Drive, Thompson, Man. CHURCHILL 148 Cy Gonick Kingsway, Winnipeg CRESCENTWOOD 115 9 DAUPHIN Hon. Peter Burtniak Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 Hon. Russell J. Doern Legislative Building, Winnipeg ELMWOOD 1 EMERSON Gabriel Girard Lomond Blvd., St. Boniface 25 6 FLIN FLON Thomas Barrow Cranberry Portage, Manitoba FORT GARRY R. (Bud) Sherman Niagara St., Winnipeg L. 86 9 - FORT ROUGE Mrs. Inez Trueman Oxford St., Winnipeg 179 9 GIMLI John C. Gottfried - 3rd Ave., Gimli, Man. 44 GLADSTONE James Robert Ferguson Gladstone, Manitoba INKSTER Hon. Sidney Green, Q.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 KILDONAN Hon. Peter Fox Prince Rupert Ave., Winnipeg 627 15 LAC DU BONNET Hon. Sam Uskiw Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 LAKESIDE Harry J. Enns Woodlands, Manitoba LA VERENDRYE Leonard A. Barkman Box Steinbach, Man. 130, LOGAN William Jenkins Alexander Ave., Winnipeg 1287 3 MINNEDOSA Walter Weir Room Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 250, 1 MORRIS Warner H. Jorgenson Box Morris, Man. 185, OSBORNE Ian Turnbull Wildwood Park, Winnipeg 284 19 PEMBINA George Henderson Manitou, Manitoba POINT DOUGLAS Donald Malinowski Burrows Ave., Winnipeg 4 361 PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE Gordon E. Johnston Room Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 248, 1 RADISSON Harry Shafransky Maplehurst Rd., St. Boniface 4 6 RHINELAND Jacob M. Froese Box Winkler, Manitoba 40, RIEL Donald W. Craik River Lane, Winnipeg 2 8 RIVER HEIGHTS Sidney Spivak, Q.C. Mathers Bay, West, Winnipeg 1516 9 ROBLIN J. Wally McKenzie Inglis, Manitoba ROCK LAKE Henry J. Einarson Glenboro, Manitoba ROSSMERE Hon. Ed. Schreyer Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 RUPERTSLAND Jean Allard Provencher Ave., St. Boniface 602 - 245 6 ST. BONIFACE Laurent L. Desjardins Des Meurons St., St. Boniface 357 6 ST. GEORGE William Uruski Box Arborg, Manitoba 580, ST. JAMES Hon. A. H. Mackling, Q.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 ST.JOHNS Hon. Saul Cherniack, 0.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 ST. MATTHEWS Wally Johannson Burnell St., Winnipeg 23 - 500 10 ST. VITAL D. J. Walding Lochinvar Ave., Winnipeg 31 6 STE. ROSE A. R. (Pete) Adam Ste. Rose du Lac, Manitoba SELKIRK Hon. Howard Pawley Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 SEVEN OAKS Hon. Saul A. Miller Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 SOURIS-KILLARNEY Earl McKellar Nesbitt, Manitoba SPRINGFIELD Hon. Rene E. Toupin Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 STURGEON CREEK Frank Johnston Overdale St., Winnipeg 310 12 SWAN RIVER James H. Bilton Swan River, Manitoba THE PAS Ron McBryde Box The Pas, Manitoba 1295, THOMPSON Hon. Joseph P. Borowski Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 TRANSCONA Hon. Russell Paulley Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 VIRDEN Morris McGregor Kenton, Manitoba WELLINGTON Philip M. Petursson Banning St., Winnipeg 681 10 WINNIPEG CENTRE J. R. (Bud) Boyce Winnipeg Ave., Winnipeg 777 3 WOLSELEY Leonard H. Claydon Sherbrook St., Winnipeg 116'h 1 - -- - -------�---�--- r - --- - 1 2133 THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2:30 o'clock, Thursday, June 24, 1971 Opening Prayer by Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER: Presenting Petitions; Reading and Receiving Petitions; Presenting Reports by Standing and Special Committees; Ministerial Statements; Tabling of Reports. TABLING OF REPORTS MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Minister of Health and Social Development. HON. RENE E. TOUPIN (Minister of Health Social Development) (Springfield): Mr. & Speaker, I would like to table an Order for Return No. 10 dated May 3rd, 1971, on the motion of the Honourable Member from La Verendrye. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Minister of Municipal Affairs. HON. HOWARD R. PAWLEY (Minister of Municipal Affairs) (Selkirk): Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to table the report dealing with Autopac supplementary rates and truck rates - farm truck rates. MR. SPEAKER: Any other ministerial statements or reports to be tabled? Introduction of Bills. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS HON. RUSSELL PAULLEY (Minister of Labour) (Transcona) introduced Bill No. 72, an Act to amend The Public Servants Insurance Act. (Recommended to the House by His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor. ) ORAL QUESTION PERIOD MR. SPEAKER: Oral question period. The Honourable Leader of the Opposition. MR. SIDNEY SPIVAK, Q. C. (Leader of the Opposition) (River Heights): Mr. Speaker, my question is to the First Minister. In an interview, the First Minister indicated that the policy people of Metro and the City of Winnipeg indicated that it was advisable that the proce­ dure being followed with respect to the staging of the uni-city bill be proceeded with. I wonder if he could indicate to the House what policy people he was referring to. HON. EDWARD SCHREYER (Premier) (Rossmere): I'm not sure that I follow the ques­ tion entirely. MR. SPIVAK: In an interview, the Premier indicated that policy people of Metro and the City of Winnipeg had indicated that the staging was advisable and necessary with respect to the uni-city bill and no delay should be un dertaken. I wonder if he could indicate to the House what policy people he is referring to. MR. SCHREYER: Well, Mr. Speaker, that is basically correct. I indicated at the time of the interview that it was my distinct impression that no members of the Metropolitan Corpor­ ation Council or the City of Winnipeg Council -- that the majority view was that we should proceed with the bill without any delay. MR. SPIVAK: A supplementary question. Then I take it that the Premier was referring to the politicians and not to the administration. MR. SPEAKER: Order, please. The honourable member is making a statement. The Honourable First Minister. MR. SCHREYER: Well, Mr. Speaker, yes, that is correct. I was referring to the policy people, which is the elected people - the elected people, not the administrative. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Member for Fort Garry. MR. L. R. (BUD) SHERMAN (Fort Garry): Mr. Speaker, I'd like to direct a question to the Honourable Minister of Transportation and ask him, although my line of vision may be impeded, if there's any reason why he is not a part of the flower power being demonstrated on the government side of the House. MR. SPEAKER: Order please. The question is irrelevant. The Honourable Member for Birtle-Russell. MR. HARRY E. GRAHAM (Birtle-Russell): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is also for the Honourable Minister of Transportation. Some time ago I asked for an Order for Return and got some of the information; could the Minister indicate when the rest of the information in that Order for Return will be forthcoming? HON. JOSEPH P. BOROWSKI (Minister of Public Works and Highways) (Thompson): I'm 2134 June 24, 1971 (MR. BOROWSKI cont'd.) .•...not sure what Order he's referring to. Could you tell me what it's about? MR. GRAHAM: For the information of the Minister, it was regarding the number of drivers in the province over the age of 65 and those that had been tested and those that hadn't. I did get a partial reply to my Order but the full thing was not filled in. MR. BOROWSKI: Well, Mr. Speaker, as is normal, the request goes to the Department and I expect that they answered the question. If they haven't, I'm sure the information will be forthcoming shortly, if it's available. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable First Minister. MR. SCHREYER: Well, Mr. Speaker, on a point of order in connection with the last question. The procedure is well understood that when an Order for Return is moved and accepted and then replied to, that the person receiving the reply may not be satisfied with it but he is not to assume that there is additional information yet forthcoming. What he should do in that case is to file a new Order for Return making more precise exactly what information it is that he would like, and then the Order is treated de novo. MR. SPEAKER: The point of order is well taken. Orders of the Day. The Honourable Attorney-General. HON. A.H.MACKLING, Q.C. (Attorney-General)(St. James): Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the proceedings of the 52nd Annual Meeting of the Conference of Commissioners on Uniformity of Legislation -- (Interjection) -- Oh I'm sorry. By leave, Mr. Speaker, I would like to table the Proceedings of the 52nd Annual Meeting of the Conference of Commis­ sioners on Uniformity of Legislation in Canada. (Agreed) ORDERS OF THE DAY - GOVERNMENT BILLS MR. SPEAKER: Adjourned debates, second readings. The Honourable House Leader. HON. SIDNEY GREEN, Q (Minister of Mines, Resources and Environmental Manage­ .c. ment) (Inkster): Mr. Speaker, the Attorney-General had a bill which I believe he discussed with members of the opposite side the other day. He wants to proceed with it today on the basis that it's referred by leave to the Committee of the Whole House and comes out of the Committee of the Whole House so we won't have to leave the Chamber, and I take it that leave is given for him to do that. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable Member for Morris. MR. WARNER H. JORGENSON (Morris): As I indicated to the Minister yesterday, we would be prepared to deal with that in all of its stages today if the government so desires. MR. SPEAKER: The Honourable the Attorney-General.
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