LOK SABHA DEBATES = 957 958 LOK SABHA Loot~D a Cloth Shop in Village KANGRI When Intercepted by Our Border Pat- Monday, February 17
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Third Series1R.6 Monday, February 17, 1964 Magha 28, 1885 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Third/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi CONTENTS [Third Series, Vol. XXV-Seventh Session, 1964] [No. 6.-Monday, February 17. 1964/Magha 2.8,1885 (Saka)] COLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions- *Starred Questions Nos. 121 to 129 957-95 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 130 to 149 . 995-1011 'Unstarred Questions Nos. 2.35 to 290 1012-50 . Arrest of Member . 10 50 -51 Statement re: theft of sacred relic from Hazratbal- Shri Nanda Papers laid on the Table . Motion on address by the Vice-President discharging the functions· of the President. 1053-Il92 Shrimati Renu Chakravartty J053--68 Shri R. G. Dubey 1068-76 Shri Brahm Prakash 1076-82. Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia 10S2--IIOO Shri Rishang Keishing 1100--05 Shri T. Subramanyam II05-IO Dr. L. M. Singhvi . IIIO-IS Shrimati Jyotsna Chanda. 1II8-2.r Shri Maniyangadan II2. 1-26 Shri N. C. Chatterjee 1I2.7-33 Shri Samnani . II33-57 Shri P. R. Patel II57--6I Dr. B. N. Singh II61--6g Shri Badrudduja II 69-S I Shri N. R. Gosh II 8 1-92. Correction to statement 1192 "The sign +marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. LOK SABHA DEBATES = 957 958 LOK SABHA loot~d a cloth shop in village KANGRI When intercepted by our border pat- Monday, February 17. 1964/Magha 28, rol, the raiders recrossed the cease- 1885 (Saka) fire Ene, throwing away 13 bundles of stolen cloth. I C I The border police patrol main- The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of tain vigiiant guard to prevent Or foil the Clock. such raids. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair J -it f~ ~ : it,,~;;wr;n ~ ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS t fir. ;;it ~ qIF"'~IF~41 ~ ¥ iRllft Raid by Pakistanis on J. & K. Border ~m<rif~~~~ (K:mgrt Village) 'fiT ~ foNT, ~ ~ liT ~ ~ fWIT lJ'llT ? -r (Shri Vishram Prasad: Shri Nath Pai: The Minister of state in the MiD- Shri Yashpal Singh: try of External AIlairs (Shrimati Shri Bishanchander Seth: Laksluni Menon) : Such incidents Shri Dhaon: which happen on the cease-fire line *121. ~ Shri P. C. Borooah: are generally reported to the UN Shri D. C. Sharma: observers and this has been done. Shrimati Savitri Nigam: That is the usual procedure laid Shri Jedhe: down. Shri Mohan Swarup: Shri Onkar Lal Berwa: ..,f\' ~1lf1'l'! ~ : it 'ifT'f'iT ;;rr~ l Shri P. R. Chakraverti: ~ f'fo ~" ~ '1fT f"Rl"ft f~ 'for ;n:ff Will the Prime Minister be pleased ~ ~ ~ ~iffl'f f<:m lJ'llT, ~ to state: ~Jnrite gm, liT m fuili 'fo": ~ (a) whether it is a fact that some ~T~ 'f,f'foTl1~~'3'<1' '1{ ~ Pakistanis raided Kangri village 60 miles from Jammu on the 31st De- ~~liT;;~ ? cember, 1963; Shrimati Lakshmi Menoll: I have (b) if so, the details about the pro- said that there is a particular kind perty looted; and of procedure laid dOwn for any kind of violation of the cease-fire line. (c) the steps taken to stop such This matter is referred to the UN recurrences? observers and usuallv thev say that either one party is guilty or the other The Deputy Minister in the Minis- party has violated the cease fire agree- try Of External Allain (Shri DiDesh ment. That. is all that is possible. Singh): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. On 31st December, a group of Pakistani Mr. Speaker: The point is whether Pakistan-occupied Kashmir civilians only a record is kept by UN observer. 2080 (ai) LS-l, 959 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 17, 1964 Oral Answe1"s 960 to be used afterwards or some action ~ ~ ~ r.rn ~ ~ I ~ iii' is also proposed by them? m iF afr-;r ;iT ;ncr ~, 'l;I'f,t ~ iF ~ Shrimati Lakshmi Menon: Usually no action is taken. They only say ttiT ;ncr 'l'@ & I ~ ~ ;;it ~ whether there has been a violation of l!.c If'I'o ~~~~1'<'T~ I the cease-fire agreement or Pakistan ~~;w~f!;~~ has violated or India has violated. ~~~,~~~if~ Shri Nath Pai: In view of the fact oof!;~~~~rrn~ that Pakistan has been able to enlist sympathy for herself by a diabolical ~~;iTmrn<tT~;;ft~ exploitation of India's alleged mis- m;r~~~~tT~lm I deeds against Pakistan, may I know ~~<riTm;~~~ I~ why the Government of India did not prepare an annual white paper list- rn~~m;iF~Tmi~~ i'I;; the myraids of real misdeeds of ~~<tT~'ti"T I Pakistan against this country includ- ing raids, incursions, violations of the lII"m""""~ ~ border, etc.? 'IT it • f.!; fit;Gift ~;qf" qlf"'fdlf'lcii it Shrimati Lakshmi Menon: It is a ~lII" ~~~lII"~qrm ~etion for action but all these things are answered in Parliament ~ iF f<;ro; ~ ~ '3OTlIT lflIT &? whenever questions are asked we have given a full statement of their viola- llft"""""~"~ :itm'l'@& tions, etc. f!;~~~'!ft~'ff'i~~ Mr. Speaker: It is a suggestion, I lTl!;~11 mmT~merr~lIT also agree. But why did not the Government consider that suggestion ~<tT~~~, err;;~ ~ earlier? Do they propose to take that f'lim "!TaT t ~ ~ ~~ "!TaT ~ I up now? Shri P. R. Chakraverti: May I know The Prime Minister and Minister whether in this raid the raiders came or External Mairs and Minister of inside three miles of the cease-fire Atomic Energy (Shrl Jawaharlal line and were given cover by the Nehru): The question is whether we Pakistan army and, if so, what pro- should issue a white paper and cir- tests have been lodged against the culate it in regard to these raids from Pakistan Government on this score? Pakistan. We shall consider that. Shrimati Lakshmi Menon: These llft"~~it"lT;t~~~ people carne there; they were civilians ~~~l!~o~~~l!;~ armed with rifles and other weapons, and they just looted. If the hon. 'l'@ ~ ~ ~<'I" ~ lTq. ~, err ~ ~ Member will be satisfied with this ~~~ifm~~~~~ reply, I may tell him that such inci- dents are very rare. In the whole of ~~~~'tiTerr~ 1963, there were just five such inci- dents, and the actual loss is only 51 ~'l't I heads of cattle and one Indian killed. and three injured. Ron Rlfrlf ~ l'f," ('ll """" ~ '8miI') ;;ft~~it~~ Mr. Speaker: He wanted to knoW" whether they came within our terri- ~fr~~ I m't~<n~ tory. ;nf~~ I f~~liif~~~~ Shrimatl Lakshmi ~ The,- t~~~if~;nf~ I~l~ were not supported by forces. The,. Orat Answers MAGHA 28, 1885 (SAKA) Om! Answers were only Pakistan civilians armed taken against this Pakistan move- with rifles. ment? Shri RaDga: May 1 know, when we Speaker: In this incident, have make these complaints to the U.N. Mr. they moved? observers, what is the procedure? Do they go to the spot and then make Shri Hem Barua: During the last a study and then ascertain whether fortnight, and it has been reported our complaint is correct or not, and to the Government of India. may 1 know whether they would make any report' to us as well as to the Mr. Speaker: Here, we are concern- United Nations; and, if so, what is the ed with this particular incursion. report or what is the judgment that they have reached in regard to this Shri Hem Barua: This particular particular incident? ~ incident is connected with that. They have drawn courage from that. Shrimati Lakshmi Menon: Usually, when a report of any incident is Shri La) Bahadur Shastri: I do not made, when any incident takes place, think this incident is connected with the observers of the U.N. or whoever that at all, but from what the hon. it is, go to the spot and they make Member has said, if he had some an investigation and they say who other area in mind .... has violated this cease-fire agreement. The military observers have not given Shrl Hem Barua: No; my report their decision in this particular case. is .... Their decision is awaited. ·Mr. Speaker: Order, order. Shri Ranga: May 1 know whether Government will be willing to place Shri Lal Bahadur Shastri: I might on the Table of the HOUSe some make it clear. All kinds of reports time .... appear in the press, but we have to remain vigilant; and our forces are Mr. Speaker: No report has yet there and we keep a guard and watch. been given. Shri Abdul Ghani GoBi: These inci- Shri Ranga: .... about the report dents, whether major or minor, are a that the U.N. observers have made regular series of incidents indulged in regard to the earlier incursions in by the Pakistan Government to that Pakistan has made? In regard disturb the areas, particularly the to the past, We have got no report at border areas, to keep that isSUe alive. all. So, may 1 know what steps are being taken by the Government to reinforce Shrimati Lakshmi Menon: If the the border forces and border police? hon. Member wants a statement on Sbrimati Lakshmi Menon: I have all these cease-fire violations, then we already answered that. Vigilance is might consider placing it on the Table increased. .of the House. Shri S. N. Chata.rvedi: May I know Mr. Speaker: That is all right. Shri what advantage we derive from the Hem Barua. decision of the UN observers in our !avour and whether it entities us to Shrl Hem Barua: May I know if it any sort of compensation for the vio- is a fact that during the last fort- lation of our territory? night Pakistan has moved her troops to the cease-fire line in Jammu and Shrimati Lakshmi MenOD: &J far as Kashmir State and, if so, may I know I am aware, they just say that viola- what steps the Governm.ent have tion has occurred and nothing __ Oral Answers FEBRUARY 17, 1964 Oral Answers 964 Mr.