Motorized Use of State Parks Long-Distance Trails Public Comments--August 27-October 20, 2015
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Motorized Use of State Parks Long-Distance Trails Public Comments--August 27-October 20, 2015 1 AS an infrequent but supportive equine user of the JWT, I strongly support local agricultural use of the JWT as needed. 2 Trails like "John Wayne" looks like a dirt roads. But I think allowing motorized use will make them unsafe for other users : hikers, runners, bikers, climbers, dog walkers e.t.c I have experience of hiking/running on trails for dirt bikes and I can say: - motorized use destroy trails; - motorbikes produce a lot of dust; - if trail is not technical (like John Wayne trail), the only fun for biker is to go really fast - which mean very unsafe for others; 3 I am against allowing recreational use of the long distance trails with motorized vehicles. If someone needs to access their property periodically then they could do so with writting prior permission. Long-distance trails are heavily used by hikers, cyclists, skiers, equestrians and rock climbers accessing climbing areas. Non-motorized uses should continue to be the primary focus of long distance trails. Recreational and concessionaire motorized use should not be permitted for long- distance trail use. Motorized use of long-distance trails should be restricted to some agricultural use for adjacent land owners to reach their properties. Motorized use ( via crossings and/or linear travel) should be permitted only in circumstances where there are absolutely no viable alternatives, such as an adjacent/alternate road or the permitted user cannot construct an access road to their property. 4 I am commenting on the request for public input on motorized use of traditionally non-motorized trails. Long-distance trails are heavily used by hikers, cyclists, skiers, equestrians and rock climbers accessing climbing areas. Non-motorized uses should continue to be the primary focus of long distance trails. Recreational and concessionaire motorized use should not be permitted for long- distance trail use. Motorized use of long-distance trails should be restricted to some agricultural use for adjacent land owners to reach their properties. Motorized use ( via crossings and/or linear travel) should be permitted only in circumstances where there are absolutely no viable alternatives, such as an adjacent/alternate road or the permitted user cannot construct an access road to their property. The size and type of vehicles that may be authorized should not prevent safe passing of/by hikers, skiers, bicyclists or equestrians. A consistent permitting process should be used for evaluating applications for motorized agricultural use. This process should include a public comment period on each permit application. A permit fee should be charged that is sufficient to cover the costs to State Parks for both the evaluation process and ongoing inspection to ensure compliance with permit requirements. In addition, as part of the permitting process, permittees should be held fully responsible for all costs associated with repair to any damage that is done to the trail. Thank you for your time and consideration. Regards, 5 When and where is motorized use of the trail surface reasonable and appropriate? Long-distance trails are heavily used by hikers, cyclists, skiers, equestrians and rock climbers accessing climbing areas. Non-motorized uses should continue to be the primary focus of long distance trails. Recreational and concessionaire motorized use should not be permitted for long- distance trail use. Motorized use of long-distance trails should be restricted to some agricultural use for adjacent land owners to reach their properties. Motorized use ( via crossings and/or linear travel) should be permitted only in circumstances where there are absolutely no viable alternatives, such as an adjacent/alternate road or the permitted user cannot construct an access road to their property. When motorized use is allowed, what limitations should be enforced? The size and type of vehicles that may be authorized should not prevent safe passing of/by hikers, skiers, bicyclists or equestrians. What kind of monitoring is needed to ensure state property and facilities are protected? A consistent permitting process should be used for evaluating applications for motorized agricultural use. This process should include a public comment period on each permit application. What fees are appropriate? (How much should a permit cost? How should trail damage be addressed?) A permit fee should be charged that is sufficient to cover the costs to State Parks for both the evaluation process and ongoing inspection to ensure compliance with permit requirements. In addition, as part of the permitting process, permittees should be held fully responsible for all costs associated with repair to any damage that is done to the trail. 6 Please keep our trails quiet and not motorized. Nearby I - 90 provides plenty of noise to disrupt quiet travel on our Mountain Greenbelt. 7 Adding my comment that I would not like to see motorized use on the trails you are considering it for. Thanks! 8 I would like to see the John Wayne trail stay a trail where motorized vehicles are banned, with the exception of designated wintertime snowmobile use. I enjoy the trail through out the Ellensburg and South Cle Elum area. I also walk up in the Hyak area. One of the reasons I enjoy the trail is the fact of no motorized vehicles. I thought the Green Dot system was in place for ATV's and dirt bikes. Please allow the trail to be as serene as possible, with out additional noise traffic. Thank you. 9 Please keep motorized vehicles off long distance trails. It will provide a safer environment for current teal users. If you open it up to one groip of users others would also try to take advantage of it I don't think their would be adequate resources to monitor usage. 10 1st of all This proposal addresses use of WA St. Park Trails by adjacent land owners. We are adjacent land owners and we did not receive any notice from WA St. Parks or anyone that this proposal was being considered. It was only by chance that we received notification that it was even being considered. We think it is only appropriate that all adjacent land owners be notified directly of this comment period. What appears to be taking place is that WA St. Parks is trying to sneak something through without notifying those directly involve that a comment period is even being offered. We have only learned of this comment period today, Sept. 12 which appearantly ends on Sept. 15. STOP! Don't Do anything until you have contacted each and every adjacent land owner directly!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you will delay the comment period until you have properly notified all adjacent land owners and provided adequate time for them to make educated comments. 11 I am opposed to motorized use of long distance trails to access private property. The specific concern I have is the Willapa Hills Trail west of Chehalis. I think it is fine to cross the public trail but to use the public property for private use is not in keeping with the State Parks mission. This section of trail in question near Ceres Hill Road in western Lewis County is a lovely stretch of pathway that is about to become much more heavily used by recreational walkers, cyclists and others that seek to have a safe place to walk, run or ride. The agricultural entities that are currently using the trail are not the owners of the agricultural ground that lies adjacent to the Willapa Hills Trail. The owner of the land is absentee and purchased the land to hunt ducks. The agricultural land lease is to a neighbor that hasn't historically farmed that ground. There are other ways to access the property although not nearly as convenient. I'm not willing to sacrifice my safety or especially the safety of the children who are sure to use this stretch of trail when the bridge is replaced across the Chehalis River. The trail will get a lot more recreational use with the new bridge and there will be many conflicts with the heavy equipment traffic on a narrow stretch of rail bed with steep drops on either side. I would hate to see someone get hurt when it could be prevented. The only benefit to anyone in allowing motorized use of this trail is a matter of convenience for one person who leases the land. The risks are many and great. A simple risk/reward computation would tip the scales heavily in favor of the exclusive use of recreational trail users. 12 I am opposed to motorized vehicles using State park trails for property access. It is a complete contradiction to the purpose of these trails and destroys the safe and calm atmosphere for which we visit these trails. I am specifically concerned with a manure hauling use on Willapa hills trail past Adna near Ceres hill road in Lewis county. This operation has left wheel ruts in the trail surface and dripped manure on a beautiful trail along the Chehalis river. This motor vehicle user is completely incompatible with growing pedestrian and bicycle use on this trail section. Please restrict this user to only crossing Willapa trail and using the accessed property's original ingress route via an adjacent forrest road. Thank You 13 Yes we want motorized use long distance trails in WA. I love what we have, but to be able to connect them across the state would be legendary. I support open to all motorized uses. 14 All trails capable of supporting motorized use should be allowed. There are many who can only explore away from general tourists via motorized means due to injuries or other handicaps.