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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 9295 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Thursday, 3 May 2018 The Council continued to meet at Nine o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. 9296 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK WING-HANG THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 9297 DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE ALVIN YEUNG THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WAN SIU-KIN THE HONOURABLE CHU HOI-DICK THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HO KAI-MING THE HONOURABLE LAM CHEUK-TING THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-CHUN THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN 9298 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HUI CHI-FUNG THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI THE HONOURABLE KWONG CHUN-YU THE HONOURABLE JEREMY TAM MAN-HO THE HONOURABLE GARY FAN KWOK-WAI THE HONOURABLE AU NOK-HIN THE HONOURABLE VINCENT CHENG WING-SHUN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S. MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 9299 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, G.B.M., G.B.S., M.H., J.P. FINANCIAL SECRETARY THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH, J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS THE HONOURABLE JOSHUA LAW CHI-KONG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE MR SONNY AU CHI-KWONG, P.D.S.M., J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR SECURITY MR LIU CHUN-SAN, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT DR CHOI YUK-LIN, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR EDUCATION MR ANDY CHAN SHUI-FU, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MS ANITA SIT, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MISS FLORA TAI YIN-PING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 9300 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 GOVERNMENT BILLS Consideration by Committee of the Whole Council CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): Committee continues to consider the Appropriation Bill 2018. Dr KWOK Ka-ki, please speak. APPROPRIATION BILL 2018 DR KWOK KA-KI (in Cantonese): Chairman, today I am going to propose Amendment No. 2 to cut half of the emoluments of Chief Executive Carrie LAM. Some people asked: why did I not propose to cut the full emoluments? There is indeed a hidden meaning. As we all know, Carrie LAM is a very calculating official, who has been hiding behind the scene in many controversial issues. She thought if she hid behind the scene and stayed out of people's view, she would be fine. For example, she said the disqualification of Agnes CHOW and the demonstration against the funding for the North East Territories New Development Project had nothing to do with her. And over the years, due to widespread public grievances arising from wrong policies or policies reliant on the Mainland, some members of the public took to the streets to demonstrate but were thus prosecuted by the Government and sent to jail. As regards their predicament, she also said it had nothing to do with her. Carrie LAM is truly very smart. But do Hongkongers see through it? Actually people are not foolish apparently. The results of the latest opinion poll indicate that people gave a popularity rating of 53.9 to Carrie LAM, with 45% approval rate, 41% disapproval rate and a net popularity of +4%, making her one of the least popular among the several Chief Executives. Of course, people compare her to "689", but it seems rather inappropriate to draw a comparison between her and the worst Chief Executive. However, some people evaluate her together with the several former Chief Executives. In comparison, I find certain things quite intriguing. The first Chief Executive was TUNG Chee-hwa. It is common knowledge that he resigned for reasons of leg pain. TUNG Chee-hwa had his strengths: he at least took responsibility and was prepared to assume responsibility. Even being battered due to the introduction of the "85 000" LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 9301 housing policy, he did not hide but came forward to admit that the "85 000" policy was introduced by him. He also truly tended to and made strenuous efforts for the people who were yet to be allocated public rental housing ("PRH"). Next came "Greedy TSANG". It is well known that his housing policy tilted to real estate developers. And I do not wish to mention what happened next. He was followed by "689". People saw him say one thing but do quite another. Taking phases 1, 2 and 3 of the Wang Chau project as an example, he discussed with some "officials, businessmen, villagers and triads"―some bigwigs in the New Territories and then the three phases of the Wang Chau project became one phase. But it does not matter. The subject of our discussion today is Carrie LAM. Carrie LAM is very smart. As everyone knows, in the Chief Executive Election in 2017, not many people wanted her to be elected. At the time, "Moustache TSANG" John TSANG had the highest popularity rating and Carrie LAM took office with low popularity. However, she did better than "689" because she obtained 777 votes―99 votes more. Some people said: "Forget it. With these extra 99 votes, let us wait and see how she will fare". Many Hongkongers wrongly harbour the fantasy that Carrie LAM is truly a "good fighter" and that she is capable of solving many problems for Hong Kong. I will first discuss the housing policy or the land policy referred by Carrie LAM as the top priority. As everyone knows, the land or housing problem in Hong Kong did not come up just yesterday. At the time of having freshly assumed office, Carrie LAM repeated the remark of "689" and said that it was the top priority. Then what has she done? Before taking office, she had already mentioned public-private partnership. Indeed, at the very mention of public-private partnership, we all understand that it means the Government would give favours to developers. Carrie LAM was very shrewd that she did not do so herself but made two moves―first, she was all talk; second, she "killed with a borrowed knife" and assigned such a controversial land problem to Chairman Stanley WONG and the members of the Task Force on Land Supply. I will not surmise that Stanley WONG and other members have a hidden agenda because I think many of them do not quite understand the land problem. They commented that there must be housing for people, in a way similar to what HO Hei-wah or members of the Federation of Public Housing Estates said: "yes, we do not have properties so it is necessary to find land; when there is land there will be properties." It is not true, nothing but a lie. Land has never ever been lacking in Hong Kong, but what is our land used for? The Government simply 9302 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 3 May 2018 has no planning. What has the Task Force on Land Supply or the Government stated? Hong Kong has 1 300 hectares of brownfields, 540 hectares of which are included in the new development areas, namely North Kwu Tung, Fanling and Hung Shui Kiu.