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Home , Amy Pond, Flesh and Stone, Karen Gillan

Interview by E Jane Dickson

12 weeks

that changed

my life

She hit the headlines by bringing sex appeal back

to the Tardis, but who is the real ?

Doctor Who I'm cowering inside, scared to put a foot wrong. Saturday 6.40pm BBC1, BBC HD "I went on the Tube the other day, at night, and no one looked twice. Bit of an anticlimax, really. 'M THINKING. I really am. I'm racking my brains," I can use public transport depending on the time of says Karen Gillan. The classical chin-on-hand day - if there were a lot of children around, it would Ithinker's pose is offset by poison-green nail probably be impossible. But that's not something varnish. As she concentrates, one long leg winds you can worry about. I mean, is just tightly about the other, slim and supple as the limbs the most brilliant job. I'm not going to take that of an elegant octopus. But it's no good. Gillan is for granted and start moaning about 'the stumped. She cannot come up with a single down­ cost of celebrity'." side to fame. Surfing on adrenaline, Karen "Kaz" It's three months since the red-haired, 5ft Gillan is the original breath of fresh air. lOin Scot first climbed aboard the Tardis When she giggles - and she giggles a and the escalating profile of Doctor Who's lot - it's not so much nerves as sheer latest is approaching warp good nature. None of which speed. Magazine cover shoots, disguises the best-foot-forward personal appearances and almost determination that, at 22, has daily puffs of tabloid outrage - the made her Britain's most bank­ kind of outrage, requiring exten­ able new talent. sive photo-coverage, that's Having left home in reserved for exceptionally at 16 to go to pretty girls in short skirts - drama school in , have all been taken in she went on to appear in Gillan's athletic stride. Rebus, Stacked and The "It's weird," she says, of Kevin Bishop Show - as her crash landing on Planet well as playing a sooth­ Famous, "but nice-weird. It sayer opposite David feels like you're being moni­ Tennant's Doctor in The Fires of tored a bit more and I really Pompeii (2008). wasn't prepared for that But as , she's raised kind of attention. Of the game of 's course, it's strange to companion from sidekick to wake up and find jour­ genuine co-star. There's a nalists staking out your classic screwball energy in house, but no one's been her professional relation­ nasty. And it's not like ship with >

21 < that knocks sparks out of the screen. things get a bit more complicated. I don't think "Actually," she says, as if confessing to a great he sees her like that all. I think he basically still cheat, "it's the same off screen. We just kind of sees her as the little Amelia he met when she was bounce off each other. The banter that you see on seven. So when she kisses him, he's like, 'Ooh, screen - that's what we're like all day on set. this is all wrong,' and she's like, 'Why isn't he I sometimes wonder if it's our way of keeping reciprocating?' So she pushes it a bit, just to test our energy up between scenes, but it's all her power. But in the morning, she's back to subconscious. And I think we might have been being his annoying little sister again." like that if we'd met in any other situation. "The one thing I never wanted to do with BOVE ALL, THE relationship between Amy," she goes on, "was to base her on any kind Amy and the Doctor is a relationship of formula, to conform to what works - or what Aof equals - or as equal as a relation­ has worked - in a companion; you know, the ship between a 21st-century girl and an whole, likeable, girl-next-door business. Amy alien can get. Former companions have is likeable, I hope, but she's not ordinary. been more politicised - notably Sarah She's quite complicated and there are Jane Smith in the 1970s was a card- layers to explore. So I was taking a few carrying feminist with outfits to match risks with her and I think it works." (see overleaf). But Amy, like Gillan and her generation, takes equality as "the RUCIALLY, AMY JUMPS the line absolute baseline". from camaraderie to frank sexual "Feminism is not the issue any more, Cattraction. A scene in last month's not for me, anyway. It's just never episode , in which she occurred to me that a woman wouldn't attempted to seduce the Doctor, was be equal, in any sphere, to a man. It's sufficiently steamy to attract the attention nothing that has ever come up in my life of Mediawatch-UK, the successor to Mary and nothing I've thought about in terms Whitehouse's public morals protest group, of Amy. She's just a strong girl, woman, while some viewers on Doctor Who whatever. Oh, let's just say she's a strong internet forums felt that Gillan's short female. And I really like that she gets to skirts - she made her first appearance drive the plot sometimes and gets her own as a kissogram cop - and general sexiness story lines. She's not just standing around were inappropriate to the BBC's flagship in awe of the Doctor all the time. I mean, family show. I can 'do' awe," laughs Gillan, falling "Yeah," says Gillan, "I guess there was a seamlessly into an attitude of slack- bit of an uproar and I really didn't see jawed wonder, "but it's just not in me to that coming. I just don't get it with the hold it for long. skirts. It's what any girl on the street is "I guess Amy's default attitude is wearing. I mean, Amy's not a schoolgirl, 'Come on, impress me'. And she's not she's 21, pretty much the same age as going to mope around when the me, and we all wear stuff like this." As if Doctor's not there - she's going to do to prove the point, Gillan does the her own thing, whether it's fighting elegant octopus thing again - a kind of monsters in strange new worlds or just sitting-down twirl that shows her own getting on with her life in her own striped mini-dress to advantage. village. I really loved the episode "I wouldn't say Amy and I have the \_Amy's Choice] where she's t> same style. There's a kind of non- matching thrown-togetherness about Amy's costumes that says she doesn't spend a lot of time on her appearance. Her outfits really say something about her and I think that's what an outfit should do - it's making a statement about who she is." Nor, insists Gillan, is Amy's occasionally suggestive behaviour toward the Doctor in any way unusual. "It's part of who she is, but it's quite a small part. She's a normal girl with normal impulses. I suppose I find it hard to define the relationship between Amy and the Doctor - I'think we all do - because there are so many aspects to it." So, will they or won't they? On balance, thinks Gillan, probably not. "Ultimately, I think they're like brother and sister - he's quite protective of her nd they bicker like siblings do, but ltimately they'd do anything for each mfcther. Sometimes, though, she's (attracted to him, and that's when I RadioTimes 19-25 June 2010 <\ married and pregnant. I grew really attached where Doctor Who has a vast following, already? to that pregnancy bump - I'd catch myself can't get enough of Amy Pond and the call to; rubbing it. But I was quite happy to take it off at Hollywood is surely a matter of time. the end of the day. I suppose I realised I'm not "Do you know, there really hasn't been timeH ready to be pregnant!" think of all that," says Gillan. "We start on the new series in a couple of weeks and I'll be filming OR is SHE ready to discuss the impact of for nine months, so I can't even get into tafl her new-found pin-up status on her about anything else. Once I've finished DoM Nprivate life. "Och no," she says, smooth­ Who, I'm just going to have see what the world ing away a blush with the flat of her hands. has to offer!" "Let's just say I've had lots of nice letters, some There's neither cockiness nor false modeH lovely letters, but my relationship with my here, but Gillan's smile is not without a hint of boyfriend [photographer Patrick Green] is challenge. "Come on," it says. "Impress me." exactly the same as it always was. I don't really talk about him, because I'm sure he'd rather not be talked about, but all the Who craziness hasn't & See more photos of Karen at affected us at all. We still go to the same places STONE ME radiotimes.com/karen-gillan, and see the same people. Stonehenge, () and the learn about former companions at "In fact, nothing in my life has really changed, head of a ... What does it all mean for radiotimes.com/doctor-who-classic Amy and the Doctor in the epic two-part finale? except that I've got this really great job and a bit and read our weekly blog at more money. And to have that sense of security I can't drive, but I'd quite like to own an Aston radiotimes.com/who-blog at this age and stage of my career is a very nice Martin or something. If we're going all-out, I'll feeling. Though, actually, I'm rubbish with have a chauffeur with it! Then I can sit in the NEXT WEEK money. I don't think I'm mentally extravagant, back and play my iPod. But that's fantasy terri­ but every so often, I'll go out and buy really nice tory -1 don't know if that will ever happen." MATT SMITH IN things and deal with the consequences later. As fantasies go, it's not so far-fetched. America, THE RT INTERVIEW

WHAT MAKES THE PERFECT COMPANION - HAS AMY POND GOT IT ALL?

SEX APPEAL BRAINPOWER RESOURCEFULNESS BRAVERY COMPASSION POLLY (Anneke Wills) ZOE HERIOT LEELA (Louise Jameson) ROSE TYLER () 1966-67 (Wendy Padbury) (Elisabeth Sladen) 1977-78 2005-2010 After an initial run of 1968-69 1973-76 "You will do as the Doctor Impulsive Rose was the perfec frumps and urchins, Zoe was the first companion A freelance journalist with instructs or I will cut out your woman to help a despondent Polly was the first sassy to bring dazzling intelligence a nose for trouble, plucky heart." No one messed with (Christopher modern woman in 1960s into the equation. Belying Sarah was a liberated 1970s Leela. Armed with a dagger Eccleston) rediscover his joie Doctor Who. No dumb her teenage demeanour, woman who didn't take no and deadly Janis thorns, de vivre. She empathised with blonde, posh Polly worked she was a highly educated for an answer. Decades later, this noble savage was the the last of the Daleks and we as a PA at the newly astrophysicist from the late she's still saving the Earth most fearless and intuitive back to the 1980s to save he opened Post Office Tower 21st century. She frequently in her own CBBC series of all the 's allies. dad's life. Rose fell in love wit and hung out at London's outsmarted her friends, The Sarah Jane AdventuresDoe s Amy match up? \/ the tenth Doctor (David hottest nightclub - once saying, "The Doctor's (where she'll be teaming Tennant) - an emotion he Inferno. It was as if Julie almost as clever as I am." up with 11th Doctor Matt reciprocated for the first time.' Christie had suddenly Does Amy match up? X Smith this autumn). Does Amy match up? J stepped aboard the Tardis. (But then even the Doctor rarely Does Amy match up? J 4tfl" Does Amy match up? J topped Zoe!)