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HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY SECOND SESSION THIRTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NEWFOUNDLAND 1977 >l, .: V Published under the authority of the Speaker of the House of Assembly Honourable Gerald Ryan Ottenheimer Detailed Index of Verbatim Report 2nd Session Thirty-Seventh General Assembly of Newfound I and From Fehrur” 2n’,l°77 o ?Tovether 24th, 1°77 Compiled by: Sara J. MacGillivray Hansard Division House of Assembly TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGES OFFICIAL OPENING 37th GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NEWFOUNDLAND (2nd Session) 1—2 ADDRESS IN REPLY AND AMENDMENTS thereto 3—7 ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS 8-27 BILLS 28—45 BUDGET DEBATE 46 COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY (Estimates) 47-66 MISCELLANEOUS 67-70 ORAL QUESTIONS 71-132 PETITIONS 133—142 REPORTS, REGULATIONS, etc. 143—147 RESOLUTIONS 148—160 RULINGS 161—180 STATEMENTS (Ministerial) etc. 181—186 OFFICIAL CLOSING 187 OFFICIAL OPENING (PAGES 1—2) OFFICIAL OPENING - THIRTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NEWFOuNDLAND (SECOND SESSION) DATE - February 2, 1977 PAGES BOOK THRONE SPEECH - Read by it. Gov. G.A. Winter 1—14. 1. MOVER - C. Cross, Y.H.A. Bonavista North 15—19. “ SECONDER - H. Twomey, M.H.A. Exploits 20-23. “ H.M. LOYAL OPPOSITION LEADER - Hon. E.M. Roberts 23-45. Congratulations to Newfoundland’s first woman Rhodes Scholar (Miss Jacqueline Sheppard) 24. PREMIER OF NEWFOUNDLAND — Hon. F.D. Moores 45—64. MOTION:- “Select Committee be appointed to draft Address in Reply’:— C. Cross, M.H.A. Bonavista North H. Twomey, M.B.A. Exploits M. O’Brien, M.B.A. Ferryland 64. NOTICE OF RESOLUTIONS: (I. Strachan) ‘Select Committee to study and improve the role played by Labrador people” 66. (S.A. Neary) “Representation to Government of Canada re joint ventures” 67. (W. Patterson) “Special assistance to side trawlers” 68. (Opp. Leader) “To study joint venture proposols” €9. (W.W. Marshall) “Compulsory pension plan” 70. fT. Rideout) “Occupational health and safety authority in Dept. of Manpower & md. Rel.” 71. (N. Windsor) “Fish stocks off the shores of Newfoundland” 72. (F.B. Rowe) “Abolish school assessments and school taxes” 72. —1— NOTICE OF RESOLUTIONS cont’d: PAGES BOOK (p. Winsor) “Patriation of the constitution of Canadri” 73. 1. (F. White) “Live coverage of Legislative debates” 75. (R. Wells) “Subsidy for energy conservation” 76. fE.W. Winsor) “Fishermen gear banks” 77. *See Resolutions NOTICE OF BILLS: (T.A. Hickman) “An Act to Amend the Legislative Disabilities Act” (Bill #6) 77. (T.A. Hickman) “An Act to Amend the Statues Act” (Bill #8) (T.A. Hickman) “An Act to Amend the Maintenance Orders Enforcement Act” (Bill #10) (‘I’. Fnrrc] 1)” An Act to Fstablish the Nfld. Statistics Agency” (Bill #9) 78. (W. House) “An Act to Amend the Memorial University Act” (Bill #7) (W. House) “An Act to Amend the Petty Trespass Act” (Bill #4) (A.J. Murphy) “An Act to Amend the Attachment of Wages Act” (Bill #5) (A.J. Murphy) “An Act to Amend the Nfld. Consumer Protection Act” (Bill #3) tA.J. Murphy) “An Act to Change the Corporate Name of the Society of Industrial Accountants of Nfld.” (Bill #11) “ (A.J. Murphy) “An Act to Amend the Direct Sellers Act” (Bill #2) “ “ *See Bills MOTION OF ADJOURNMENT:— (by T.A. Hickman) “That House adjourn until February 7, 1977” 78. 1. — 2 -— ADDRESS IN REPLY & AMENDMENTS THERETO (PAGES 3-7) DEBATE ON ADDRESS IN REPLY DATE MEMBER PAGE BOOK 77—02—07 Opp. Leader 119—146. 2. *(See Amendments Page 146.) 77—04—18 S.A. Neary 4570—98. 46. 77—04—19 4638—40. 47. (Tabled ten pointers) 4638. N. Windsor 4640—62. J.R. Smaliwood 4662-64. *fsee Amendments Page 4664.) 77—04—21 L. Woodrow 4952—59. 50. 77—04—21 4965—81. 51. J. Winsor 4981—5009. H. Twomey 5009-16. W. Callan 5016—39. J. Goudie 5039—59. 77—04—22 5088—94. 52. T. Rideout 5094—5125. W. Patterson 5125-44. P.J. Canning 5145—64. H 77—04—26 5192—5208. 53. H. Young 5208—16. T. Lush 5216—41. 0. Flight 5241—63. •1 77—04—26 5264—70. 54. W. MacNeil 5270—89. J. llodder 5289—5302. G. Cross 5302—12. H. Mclsaac 5312—29. R. Simmons 5329—51. I. Strachan 5351—58. *(See Amendments Page 5358) Motion to draft Address in Reply 77—06—14 adopted 12027. 122. —3— AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS IN REPLY AMENDMENTS BY WHOM PAGE BOOK To delete all the words after ‘that’ and replace them with the following:— ‘this House condemns the failure of the ministry to prepare and present to the House measures adequate to deal with the problems confronting Newfoundland and Labrador today and demands that the ministry forthwith Opp. Leader 146—219. 2. take all measures possible within their 268—314. 3. constitutional authority to alleviate 316—349. 4. these problems.’ Seconder J. Nolan W. Carter 281. 3. C.R. Brett 293. A.B. Peckford 349—409. 4. 540—568. 6. J.R. Smaliwood 364,402. 4. S.A. Neary 569—585. 6. Sub Amendment ‘and the House regrets that which hath been done hath been done poorly and that which hath not been done hath brought sorrow to every corner of this land.’ S.A. Neary 639—693. 7. Seconder E.W. Winsor *letter read by S.A. Neary from Premier to denturists S.A. Neary 682. 7. 720—788. 8. 846—888. 9. 1024—46. 11. J.A. Carter 1093—96. 12. Sub Amendment defeated 1096. 12. Amendment W.W. Marshall 1096- 1120. 12. F. White 1120—48. R. Wells 1149—61. 1254—62. 13. 1340—42. 14. T. Lush 1343—53. 14. 1501—14. 16. R. Winsor 1515—25. 16. M. O’Brien 1525—35. 16. 1575—86. 17. L. Woodrow 1586— 1612. 17. J.R. Smaliwood 1612-31. “ J. Collins 1690— 1708. 18. —4— AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS IN REPLY AMENDMENTS BY WHOM PAGE BOOK Amendment (cont’d.) R. Simmons 1708—12. 18. 1748—66. 19. W. Carter 1766— 1800. 19. T.A. Hickman 1800-09. 19. 1936—45. 21. G. Flight 1945. 21. Sub Amendment ‘and this House further regrets the action of the Ministry in agreeing to borrow without prior approval of the House the sum of $50 million in excess of the amount needed to defray the expenditures approved by the Legislature in respect of the financial year which ends 31st March 1977.’ G. Flight 1971. 21. Seconder H. Mclsaac Changed by Mr. Speaker to read: ‘And this House further regrets the action of the Ministry in agreeing to borrowing the sum of $50 million without providing prior opportunity for debate in this House’ Mr. Speaker 2016. 22. C. Flight 2046—55. S.A. Neary 2055—79. *5.A. Neary quoting from letters re Health Science Complex 2069—78. “ W.W. Marshall 2080—92. “ C.W. Doody 2092- 2105. Opp. Leader 2106—14. 22. 2135—79. 23. J.A. Carter 2179—88. R. Simmons 2189—2 2210. Sub Amendment lost on division 2210. 23. Amendment T. Rideout 2210-13. 23. 2243—64. 24. F.5. Rowe 2264—89. 24. *Letter read by F.B. Rowe r€ gravel pit in Bay de Verde area 2269. G. Cross 2289—98. “ W. MacNeil 2298— 2310. “ —5— AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS IN REPLY AMENDMENTS BY WHOM PAGE BOOK Amendment (cont’d.) W. MacNeil 2464. 26. Sub Amendment ‘And specifically demands that the govern ment forthwith set up a royal commission to enquire into and report upon all the circumstances surrounding the donation of $52,600 to the Progressive Conservative Party by the firm of Scrivener Projects Newfoundland Limited, such Commission to have all the powers that may he conferred upon the commissioners under the Public Enquiries Act, Chapter 314 of the Re vised Statues of Newfoundland, 1970.’ W. MacNeil 2473—80. 26. Seconder H. Mclsaac Opp. Leader 2481— 2503. 26. 2559—86. 27. J.A. Carter 2587—93. J.G. Rousseau 2593— 2605. S.A. Neary 2605—26. 27. *Letter re Scrivener donations 2613. 4547—54. 46. J. Nolan 4554—57. T. Rideout 4557—60. A.B. Peckford 4560—63. T. Lush 4564—66. E. Dawe 4566—68. Sub amendment defeated on division 4570. Amendment defeated 4570. 46. ‘And urges your Honour’s ministers to introduce legislation designed to purify election of members to the House by putting severe limitations on the amount of money that any political party or can didate or any person or organization in their behalf may spend by requiring the de tailed reports of all expenditures be made to the public authority by all who spend or receive such money, that no person or corporation or organization of any kind be permitted to contribute any money or money’s worth to a party, candidate, agent, canvasser, or any other person or organ ization in their behalf at any time, that all lawful and proper expenses of parties, candidates or their authorized agents or representatives be paid out of the public funds of the Province.’ J.R. Smallwood 4664—92. 47. —6 AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS IN REPLY AMENDMENTS BY WHOM PAGE BOOK Seconder to amendment F. White J.R. Smaliwood 4693— 4712. 48. S.A. Neary 4712—35. E. Dawe 4736—39. T.A. Hickman 4739-65. J.A. Carter 4765-69. Opp Leader 4770—88. 48. 4938—42. 50. W. Callan 4943—49. Amendment defeated on division 4951. 50. To delete all the words after ‘that’ and replace them with the fo11owing- ‘That this House regrets the failure of the ministry to develop the natural and physical resources of this Province for the benefit of the people of the Province.’ I. Straclian 5358—60. 54. Seconder F.B. Rowe 5358.