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Re Agitation of Dalit 212 Christians tor Reservation reached Andhra Pradesh alongwith 3 trucks loaded [English] with relief material. Further, this junior Shankaracharya 13.14 hrs. was about to reach Orissa. At this stage. Kumari Uma Bharati came and stood The hon'ble Members also raised a point related to on the floor near the Table science. We are equally concerned about it. We cannot stop cyclone. It is not in my control. Moreover, it is not MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : That will not go on record directed by the rules of the House. A meeting of scientists of Asia-Paicific region was being held here. We had (Translation] made an appeal to the scientific committee if it could (Interruptions) help us in growing small coconut trees and that the SHRI CHATURANAN MISHRA If the hon'ble crop is ripe before the cyclone comes This matter was Member is hurt then I beg pardon from her also raised in the World Congress We are neither (Interruptions) If anything is there in the record then scientists nor magicians. I. on your behalf have already it may be expunged and I have no objection to it If you asked them to take steps in this regard. are hurt then I have admitted, but all are not like you A point regarding national calamity was also raised. .(Interruptions) In that onnection. I as well as the hon. Prime Minister [English] had declared it a national calamity. National calamity means providing assistance first from the Relief Fund 13.14V* hrs. and then mobilising it from public. Members of Parliament and MLAs have also donated their one At this stage. Kumari Uma Bharati went month’s salary and we are also urging upon employees back to her seat and others to come forward in this regard As regards MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Shri Mishra come to the crop insurance, no country of the world, even America point. provides full compensation. Therefore it will take time SHRI CHATURANAN MISHRA I have already to decide as to what can be done in this situation. At finished my points. I am concluding with a request to this point of time. I assure you that nobody will be the House that this House should advise me correctly allowed to suffer or die for want of money. The hon. I will do everything Members can approach me and tell me about their grievances I shall try to arranage money from other MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now the House stands sources. adjourned for lunch till 2.15 p m .13,15 hrs. [Translation] The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch till Fifteen With these words I would like to request you again Minutes past Fourteen of the Clock to explain us in a concrete way as to how it should be done, As the announcement was made Umaji impressed upon it. She had also narrated a story about a husband 14.24 hrs. wife and a thief I would like to convey my thanks to her The Lok Sabha re-ajsembled after Lunch at Twenty- for the story.. (Interruptions) Four Minutes past Fourteen of the Clock KUMARI UMA BHARATI Mr Deputy Speaker. Sir. (Shri PC Chacko in the Chair) the way Mishraji is cutting Jocks in the House, is very shameful or him ...(Interruptions) You must be aware of RE : AGITATION OF DALIT CHRISTIANS FOR it that I sleep with my brother and my sister-in-law. I RESERVATION have also slept with my parents Such things happen in all families. It is a different thing if it is not so in your [English] family I used to sleep with my parents Presently. I SHRI PC THOMAS (Muvattupuzha) Sir, I have a sleep with my elder brother and sister-in-law matter to be raised. Just at some distance ...(Interruptions) I am very sorry that you are continuously ...(Interruptions) cutting jokes of my being a lady and a Sadhu. This is MR CHAIRMAN : Please be seated unbecoming of a person like you holding such a high post. Unless and until the hon‘ble Minister seek apology SHRI PC, THOMAS There was a rally I will not sit here in the House He will have to ..(Interruptions) apologise. ..(Interruptions) It should not go on record MR. CHAIRMAN : No. this is no Zero Hour. Shri ...(Interruptions). Thomas. SHRI PC. THOMAS Three hundred and seventy- MR CHAIRMAN : Shri Thomas, please take your five people, including ten Bishops are in custody seat. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR CHAIRMAN Will you please take your seat? SHRI G.M, BANATWALLA : Sir. you should also SHRI PC. THOMAS They are in cutody in the express your serious concern about it. Parliament Street Police Station (Interruptions) SHRI PC. THOMAS : Sir, we just want to say that SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA (Ponnani) It is a very (Interruptions) serious matter Sir. .(Interruptions) MR CHAIRMAN : Shri Paswan. please take note MR CHAIRMAN It is very serious but you cannot of this raise a matter like this. (Interruptions) (interruptions) MR CHAIRMAN : You please take your seat. SHRI PC. THOMAS I would like to bring it to the SHRI G M BANATWALLA : Sir. he must say notice of Shri Paswan . (Interruptions) something to the House. ..(Interruptions) MR CHAIRMAN Any urgent matter you senior MR. CHAIRMAN : Please take your seat. I have Members should know should be raised under certain already told the Minister, the Leader of the House to rules. take note of this problem. (Interruptions) SHRI PC. THOMAS ; Sir. let him respond . .(Interruptions) SHRI PC THOMAS Sir. they have been taken into custody. They are in custody now (Interruptions) three MR CHAIRMAN Now, we take up Item number hundred and seventy five persons including two nine please resume your seat. Members of Parliament. They have been called by the SHRI PC THOMAS ; Shri Paswan. please respond. Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is not here just now Otherwise you will force me to sit h ere...(interruptions) They have been called (Interruptions) A small MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Thomas, please resume your delegation is going to meet him seat. MR. CHAIRMAN Shri Thomas please take an SHRI PC THOMAS Sir. let him respond. Otherwise appointment with the Prime Minister and discuss the we will be forced to sit here. matter with him MR CHAIRMAN No. I have given the direction. SHRI PC THOMAS : Sir ten Bishops are also Shri Thomas, please resume your seat. arrested (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA Sir you ask the Minister SHRI P.C. THOMAS Shri Paswan. please respond, to clarify This is a very serious m a tte. r(Interruptions) On a genuine demand ten Bishops are arrested THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN) What is the matter9 First of all. I must know (Interruptions) what you want to say SHRI PC THOMAS Sir the matter is simple It is SHRI PC THOMAS ; The demand is to include the to persuade the Government to bring a Bill That is Dalit Christians in the Schedule. The Bill is to be brought all (Interruptions) It has been brought out in the Common Minimum SHRI G.M BANATWALLA Sir you call upon the Programme This has been specifically said Minister to make a statement here (Interruptions) ...(Interruptions) But till now, the Bill has not come. We SHRI PC THOMAS Actually they are under understand that it is coming...(Interruptions) surveillance. They cannot go. .(Interruptions) MR CHAIRMAN No. that is not the question. Shri MR. CHAIRMAN Shri Thomas, you have already Paswan, the matter is made your submission I made it very clear that if you (Interruptions) have to you please approach the Prime Minister and MR CHAIRMAN Please do not interfere. discuss the matter with him (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : Sir. all are arrested. Ten SHRI P.C. THOMAS Sir I would urge upon bishops are arrested . (Interruptions) the hon. Leader of the House. Shri Ram Vilas Paswan SHRI KODIKUNNIL SU^ESH (Adoor) Sir. this is a ** here. He is a Dalit leader. Shri Paswan. please serious matter. respond. MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Suresh, will you please [Translation] resume your seat9 SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : The Government SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : Sir. this is a serious wants that the Dalit Christians should be included in matter.... (Interruptions) the list of Scheduled Castes but how it can be done will MR. CHAIRMAN : I am trying to help you. Please be decided in a meeting of various leaders. So far as resume your seat. Jhe second issue is concerned, we will bring the notice of the concerned officers, the matter of demonstration Shri Paswan, some agitation is going on outside. and arrests of M.Ps. and other kind of excesses. They have explained the thing. They are being arrested. Somebody is being manhandled. That is the report. [Enghs h] When a Member is making this report in the House, you please take a serious note of this and take appropriate MR CHAIRMAN : You should be satisfied with this action. SHRI PC THOMAS : Sir. the meeting is going to be SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : Sir. ten Bishops are called. It was assured earlier that it will be brought in arrested. this Session We would like to .know whether this will be brought in this Session or not ...(Interruptions) SHRI PC. THOMAS : Sir. I came to. MR. CHAIRMAN : I am not allowing you to raise MR CHAIRMAN : Do you not want the response9 that issue of bringing the Bill in the House. The issue [Trans I a tion] is only about what happened today outside the Parliament House and you are allowed to raise it. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN : Mr.