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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Twelfth Series, Vol. X, No. 21 Saturda~·. April 17, 1999 Chaitra 27, 1921 (Saka) LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version) Fourth Session (Twelfth Lok Sabba) a,zettel " DobetOil \Jnt ...J "'HamaR! J..ibrary 8uHdiAg Boom No. Fi~·C25 Aac. No ....•.......... ,." ...... D&t~d~._ ............................... (Vol. X contains Nos. 21 to 24) Gaze\t~. !l D9~tes ~n" , iament l.i!:;.rIHV ~L:tldi':1l Irl i\"" Boom r... C'. Hj~\J.;.I Jloek '(14 WK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI Price: Rs. 50.00 EDITORIAL BOARD . Shri S. Gopaian . Secretary':General Lok Sabha Dr. A.K. Pandey Additional Secretary Lok Sabha Secretariat Shri Hamam Singh Joint Secretary Lok Sabha Secretariat Shri P.C. Bhatt Chief Editor Lok Sabha Secretariat Shri A.P. Chakravarti S~pic)r ,Editor -t·.. ' Shr, V.1tt. Chhabra Editor [ORIGINAL ENGLISH PROCEEDINGS INCLUDED IN ENGLISH VERSION AND ORIGINAL HINDI PROCEEDINGS INCLUDED IN HINDI V~RSION WILL BE TREATED AS AUTHORITATIVE AND NOT THE TRANSLATIO~ THEREOF.] CONTENTS [Twelfth Series, Vol. X, Fourth Session 199911921 (Saka)) No. 21, Saturday, April 17, 19991Chaltra 27, 1921 (Saka) SUBJECT COLUMNS MOTION OF CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS. 1-30,31-50 Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee . 3-15 OBSERVATION RE: CASTING OF VOTE BY A MEMBeAiAl=TER BECOMING CHIEF MINISTER. 30-31 LOK SABHA DEBATES LOK SABHA MR. SPEAKER : There is no such procedure. Please take your seat. (Interruptions) Saturday, April 17, 1999/Chaitra 27, 1921 (Saka) MR. SPEAKER : There is no such procedure. Please take your seat. The Lok Sabha met at (Interruptions) Eleven of the Clock MR. SPEAKER : Shri Sathiamoorthy and Shri Muthiah, please take your seats. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair) (Interruptions) MOTION OF CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNCIL THE MINISTER OF POWER, MINISTER OF OF MINISTERS - Contd. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS' AND MINISTER OF NON· CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (SHRI P.R. [English] KUMARAMANGALAM) : We are telling that we sat till 5.45 in the morning. What is this? MR. SPEAKER : Han. Prime Minister, Shri Vajpayee. please. SHRI VAlKO (Sivakasi) : Let the Prime Minister speak now. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla) : Please give me five minutes' time. MR. SPEAKER : Please take your seat. When this is not the practice, I am not allowing you. MR. SPEAKER : No, please. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Shri Acharia, you are a senior MR. SPEAKER : You cannot speak because Member. What is this? Please take your seat. yesterday's sitting went up to six 0' clock of today morning. Please take your seat. (Interruptions) PROF. SAI'=UDDIN SOZ : Please allow me for MR. SPEAKER : Now, the hon. Prime Minister, five minutes. please. SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura) : Please allow him for one minute ... (lnterruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Soz, please take your seat. MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. Shri Lalu Now, the Prime Minister. Prasad, please understand this is not the procedure. What is this? Please take your seat. (Interruptions) PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara) : Please allow MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Soz, please take your seat. me to speak for one minute. You cannot speak now. Please take YOlK seat. MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. How can (Interruptions) I allow you? Please undPorstand this is not the procedure. Yesterday's sitting went up to six 0' clock MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. Now, the of today morning. Please understand this. Prime Minister please. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Yesterday's sitting went up to SHRI BASU DEB ACHARIA : You allow him one six 0' clock of today morning. Please understand. minute. SHRI SHARAD PAWAR (Baramati) : It is a KUMAR I MAMATA BANERJEE (Calcutta South) : sensitive issue. Please allow me for only one minute. No ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER : Shri Sharad Pawar, I am MR. SPEAKER : Please take your seat. appealing to you, do not create any new precedent. (Interruptions) PROF. P.J. KURIEN : He was not here yesterday. 3 Motion of Confidence in APRIL 17, 1999 the Council of Ministers 4 MR. SPEAKER : Yesterday's sitting went up to SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV : First of all six 0' clock of today morning. congratulate Shri Chandra Shekhar on his birthday... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) {English] MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. MR. SPEAKER: When the Leader of the House (Interruptions) is speaking, do not disturb him. MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. [Translation] (Interruptions) SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV : Will you not allow even felicitations? MR. SPEAKER: Shri Chaubey, please take your seat. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : I, in the House ... (Interruptions) (Interruptions) SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV : Today is the MR. SPEAKER : This is not good. You are all birthday of Chandrasekharji. senior Members. Please understand. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : Whose birthday (Interruptions) is today? MR. SPEAKER : Today is the birthday of MR. SPEAKER : Senior Members should not Chandrashekhar Saheb. f behave like this. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : Many happy Now, the Prime Minister, Shri Atal Bihari returns of the day! Vajpayee. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have been associated with the {Translation] Parliament for about 40 years. I have seen many minority Governments. There was minority PRIME MINISTER (SHRI ATAL BIHARI Government run by Smt. Indira Gandhi. Nobody then VAJPAYEE) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, day before yesterday, accused her of unprincipled politics. Shri Narasimha while initiating the discussion on the confidence Rao also continued to head the minority Government. motion, I had said that before speaking, I would like to hear. Now today it is my turn. So I too should be I do not want to go into what was done to convert heard uninterruptedly. The opposition has complained that minority Government into a majority one but if that... (Interruptions) the opposition wanted to know whether I enjoyed majority or not, it could bring forward a motion in SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV (Sambhal) : Mr. this regard. Why the opposition instead of knocking Speaker, Sir, mike is not working well. Please have at the door of the Hon'ble President of India, did not it repaired. bring forward a Motion against me? When the Hon'ble President desired that we should seek the [English] vote of confidence, we at once agreed to it. The MR. SPEAKER : Hon'ble Prime Minister, could debate has continued for two days. It is going to be you pleae use the second mike also? over soon. It could still be better in quality and standard. We claim to be the greatest democracy of [Translation] the world. We indeed are. But, judging us from the goings-on in our Parliament, what the countries SHRI ATAL BIHAR I VAJPAYEE : Mr. Speaker, Sir, which nave recently joined the mainstream of I thank the Hon'ble Members that they want to hear democracy, must be feeling about us, can easily be me. gauged. When shall our social life break loose from the trammels of allegations and counter-allegations? SHRI MULAYAM SINGH YADAV : We do want to When we hurt allegations, we feel called upon to hear you. corrobarate them. We can just repeat what has SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE : I was saying that appeared in the press or the media in corroboration. the opposition has a complaint and they have alleged But that is not a very foolproof or effective way. that I did not observe canons of political morality. Mr. Speaker, Sir, my Government was formed just Parliament is in session. Hon'ble Members and the 13 months back. We are being subjected to a trial of opposition were going to get opportunities to vote strength. I never claimed to be seasoned statesman. against the Government almost daily. But I do submit that I have never aspired for anything 5 Moti~n of Confidence in CHAITRA 27, 1921 (Saka) the Council of Ministers 6 than to serve the country. When I was in the agendas become a recipe for economic Opposition. nobody ever charged me with doing disaster and social turmoil." anything detrimental to the interests of the country. Then, have. I changed my character after coming to [Translation] power? Does power change a man to such an extent? If it is true, what to say of people who remained in If this is your assessment of the regional parties. power for 40 long years. We all know the conditions then how and on what basis will you enter into an in which the elections were held. On the basis of the alliance with them? I also quote below for the benefit results of the elections, it was only the coalition of our friends belonging to the leftist parties a Government that could be forward. Even at the very relavent comment of the Congress Party about the last moment, we had submitted to the Hon'ble regional parties President that since democracy is a game of [English] numbers, we didn't have with us the adequate number of M.Ps .• and that if someone also was in a "As for the left Parties, even after seven IJosition to form the Government, he should better decades, the CPI and the CPM, have not invite him for the purpose and we would prefer to sit been able to integrate themselves into the in opposition for some days more. But nobody was national mainstream". prepared to form the Government. But now, surprisingly enough, after 13 months, they are ready [Translation] to form the Government. It is a good thing. It is a very serious charge. It is part (If the Mr. Speaker, Sir, the main opposition said that Congress manifesto. It is a declaration. Now an theirs would be the constructive opposition and that alliance is perhaps being entered into in an attempt . they would neither support anybody, nor get support to integrate the left Parties into the national from anybody and would wait for the day when they mainstream.
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