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The Choo Choo Jazzers and Similar Groups: a Musical And The Choo Choo Jazzers and Similar Groups: A Musical and Discographical Reappraisal, Part Two By Bob Hitchens, with revised discographical information compiled and edited by Mark Berresford Correction to the preamble to Part 1 of this listing. The words “the late” in connection with Johnny Parth should be deleted. Happily Johnny is going well at around 85 years of age. My apologies for the mistake and for any upset caused. Bob H. Please see Part One (VJM 175) for index to abbreviations and reference sources. GLADYS MURRAY, Comedienne Acc. By Kansas Five Clementine Smith (vcl, comb and paper) acc by: poss Bubber Miley (t) unknown (tb) Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. November 24, 1924 5740-5 EVERYBODY LOVES MY BABY (Williams - Palmer) Regal 9760-A Rust: LM? or BM,BF,LH,ES. B&GR: LM or BM??,BF,LH,ES. Kidd: u/k,BF,LH,u/k. Miley disco: BM,u/k (tb)BF,LH,ES. Rains: BM. May be pseudonym for Josie Miles. (David Evans, notes to Document DOCD5518) Miley disco emphasises that other commentators have missed the trombone. So did I. I don’t think BM is here but Rains implies that the label states Miley (VJM157). I agree with KBR and feel that this is the same team as the 21 Nov Edisons. JOSIE MILES – JAZZ CASPER Josie Miles, Billy Higgins [Jazz Casper] (vcl duet) acc by: Bubber Miley (t) Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. November 24, 1924 5741-1-2 LET'S AGREE TO DISAGREE (Smith - Durante) Ban 1499-A Rust: BM or LM,LH,ES. B&GR: LM or BM??,LH,ES. Miley disco: BM,LH,ES. I agree with the latter. CLEMENTINE SMITH Clementine Smith, Billy Higgins (vcl) acc by: Bubber Miley (t) Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. November 24, 1924 5742-1 I'M DONE, DONE, DONE WITH YOU (Al Bernard) Ban 1483-A Rust: LM? or BM,LH,ES. B&GR: LM? or BM??,LH,ES. Kidd: BM,LH,ES. Miley disco: BM,LH,ES. This sounds more like BM. Same session as above Josie Miles & Billy Higgins and The Choo Choo Jazzers Josie Miles, Billy Higgins [Jazz Casper] (vcl duet) acc by: poss Bubber Miley (t) Bob Fuller (cl-1) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31725 I'm Done Done Done With You -1 (Bernard) * Ajax 17080- 31727 A to Z Blues (BF omitted) (Butter Beans)* Ajax 17080- Rust, B&GR: BM,BF,LH? Miley disco: BM,BF,LH. 31727 sounds more like BM, but on 31725 it is uncharacteristically staccato. The artist credit is from Bryant and unconfirmed here as no copy could be located. Susie Smith and The Choo Choo Jazzers Monette Moore (vcl) acc by: prob Bubber Miley (t) poss Charlie Irvis (tb) Louis Hooper (p) prob Joe Davis (bell and train whistle effects-1 New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31729 The Bye Bye Blues (Paul Carter) Ajax 17079-A 31730 Weeping Willow Blues (Paul Carter) -1 Ajax 17079-B Rust, B&GR, Kidd, Miley disco: BM,JF,LH . I think prob BM but tb more like that on matrices 31709-15 Josie Miles & Billy Higgins and The Choo Choo Jazzers Josie Miles, Billy Higgins (vcl duet) acc by: Bubber Miley (t) Bob Fuller (cl-1) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31733 Satisfied (Briers) Ajax 17083- 31735 Picnic Time (1) (Bernard) Ajax 17083- Rust: u/k personnel. B&GR: BM,BF,LH? Miley disco: BM,BF,LH. I agree with the latter. The artist credit is from Bryant and unconfirmed here as no copy could be located. Susie Smith and The Choo Choo Jazzers Monette Moore (vcl) acc by: Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31737 Meat Man Pete (Jackson) Ajax 17081-A Rust, B&GR: BF,LH. Agreed. 11 Bob Fuller Bob Fuller (cl solo) acc by Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31740 Crossword Puzzle Blues (Fuller - Ray)* Ajax 17088- 31741-2 Sweet 'n' Pretty Mama Blues (Fuller - Ray)* Ajax 17088- Rust: BF,LH or AR,ES. Kidd:BF,LH,ES. LW: BF,LH or AR,ES. I have not heard these items. MB wonders whether the composer credits may give a clue to the pianist on this session? Josie Miles and The Choo Choo Jazzers Josie Miles (vcl) acc by: Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) unknown (bj) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31743 Cross Word Papa (You Sure Do Puzzle Me) (Ray - Moore)* Ajax 17087- 31745 I'm a Cabaret Nightingale (Overstreet) Ajax 17090-A Rust: BF,LH,ES? B&GR: BF,LH,u/k. Kidd: BF,LH,ES. The bj (very faint on 31745) plays only on the beat, therefore not ES. Monette Moore and The Choo Choo Jazzers Monette Moore (vcl) acc by: Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31747 Nobody Knows The Way I Feel Dis Mornin’ (Tom and Pearl Delaney)* Ajax 17086- Rust, B&GR, Kidd: JF,BF,LH. Agreed. Josie Miles and The Choo Choo Jazzers Josie Miles (vcl) acc by: Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31749 There'll Be Some Changes Made (Higgins - Overstreet)* Ajax 17087- Rust, B&GR, Kidd: BF,LH. Agreed. Susie Smith and Her Choo Choo Jazzers: Monette Moore (vcl) acc by: Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31751 Sore Bunion Blues (Williams)* Ajax 17089- 31753 Put Me In The Alley Blues (Callens)* Ajax 17089- Rust, B&GR, Kidd: JF,BF,LH. Agreed. Helen Gross and The Choo Choo Jazzers Helen Gross (vcl) acc by: Rex Stewart (cnt) Jake Frazier (tb-1) Bob Fuller (cl-2) Louis Hooper (p) New York, November 23 – Dec 3, 1924 31755 Last Journey Blues -1 (Jones) Ajax 17090-B 31757 Bitter Feelin' Blues (1) (Jones)* Ajax 17086- 31759 Workin' Woman's Blues (2) (Williams, Waller) * Ajax 17133- Rust, B&GR, Kidd: RS,JF,BF,LH. Very prob RS (much vibrato). KBR is sure this is not JF: he invites speculation that it might be Rex’s buddy Herb Gregory instead. Composer credit ‘Jones’ is Duke Jones = Arthur Ray. SIX BLACK DIAMONDS Bubber Miley (t) Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl,ss) Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. December 2, 1924 5758-1,2,3 Those Panama Mamas (Johnson - Bibo) Ban 1456-B Rust: LM?,JF,BF,LH,ES. Kidd, Miley disco: BM,JF,BF,LH,ES. Rains & MB hear only BM and no purported 2nd t. CLEMENTINE SMITH Clementine Smith (vcl) acc by: poss Bubber Miley (t) Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl,ss) Louis Hooper (p) Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. December 2, 1924 5759-2 NOBODY KNOWS WHAT A RED HEAD MAMA CAN DO (Fain - Mills) Ban 1479-B 5760-2 Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now) (Yellen - Ager)* Ban 1464- Rust: LM? or BM,JF,BF,LH,ES. B&GR: LM? or BM??,JF?,BF,LH,ES. Kidd: LM?,BF,LH,ES. Miley disco: BM,JF,BF,LH,ES. Same session as last despite which this sounds much more LM to me and probably JF (little is audible on 5760). 12 NETTIE POTTER Monette Moore (vcl) acc by: poss Bubber Miley (t) Jake Frazier (tb-1) Bob Fuller (cl-2) Louis Hooper (p) New York, c. December 15, 1924 5786-1 A GOOD MAN IS HARD TO FIND (Eddie Green) -1 Ban 1483-B 5787-1 Blind Man Blues (Green - McLaurin) -2 Regal 9781-B 5787-2 Blind Man Blues (Green - McLaurin) -2 Ban 1484-B Rust: BM or LM,JF,BF,LH. B&GR: BM or LM??,JF,BF,LH. Kidd: LM?,BF,LH. Miley disco: BM,JF?,BF,LH. Could be BM. May be Monette Moore under pseudonym (and no bj) BOOKER'S JAZZ BAND prob Bubber Miley (t) Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl,as) Charles Booker (as) Louis Hooper (p) poss Elmer Snowden (bj) New York, c. December 15, 1924 5788-2 HOT SAX (Charles H. Booker) Dom 3439-B 5789-1-2 THE WEST TEXAS BLUES (Booker) Dom 3474-B Rust: BM?,JF?,BF?,CB,LH?,ES? Miley disco: BM,JF,BF,CB,LH,ES. MB: BM. Presumably same session as above. Bj less prominent than most ES. EDITH WILSON AND HER JAZZ HOUNDS Edith Wilson (vcl) acc by: unknown (tp) (tb) (cl) (as) (p) (bj) New York, December 17, 1924 140189-1 He's a Mean Mean Man (Perry Bradford) Col 14054-D 140190-1 Double Crossin' Papa (Perry Bradford) - Rust: all u/k. B&GR: BF?, others u/k. Miley disco: BM/,JF? Rest u/k. Not the usual suspects here. Edith was starring at the Cotton Club at this time and this may well be a contingent from the Cotton Club Orchestra. CLEMENTINE SMITH Clementine Smith (vcl) acc by: Jake Frazier (tb) Bob Fuller (cl) Louis Hooper (p) New York, c. January 6, 1925 5800-1 NOBODY KNOWS THE WAY I FEEL DIS MORNIN’ (Tom Delaney) Ban 1484-A Rust: JF,BF,LH,ES. B&GR: JF?,BF,LH. There is no banjo present JOSIE MILES – (mxs 5827/5828) JOSE MILES – JAZZ CASPER – (mx 5829) Josie Miles (vcl) acc by: Bob Fuller (cl-4,ts-2,ss-5) Joe Davis (poss. mellophone-3,sound effects- 7) or unknown (sax-3) Louis Hooper (p) Billy Higgins (Jazz Casper) (vcl-6) New York, January 26, 1925 5827-1-2 BITTER FEELIN' BLUES (Ray) 2,3 Ban 1498-B 5828-2 THUNDERSTORM BLUES (Williams - Ray) 4,7 Ban 1498-A 5829-2 IT'S THE LAST TIME I'LL BE A PASTIME FOR YOU 3,5,6 (Grossman) Ban 1499-B Rust: BF,Ernest Elliott?,LH,BH,JD.
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