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Street. The visitors included Councillor Mrs. N. M. Visher and the Rey. ©. W. Chastel de esolviles NO PRESERVA TION ORDER SANDGATE HOTEL
TONE Town Counciljof the buildings y to make a building pre- » recommended tonight! The Ministry stated that the corenionl order, which would make a building pre-jarchitectural and historic t ir confirmation by the rder in respect ofjest of the building had been re-|Minister of Housing and Local century Royal Kent} .ppraised and the Minister was|Government. at Sandgate. ladvised that, as an hotel dating| Mthe Housing and Town Plan- from Peon it _ he ad a certain} ning Comr that an order the
granti a outline per-. i for the ‘redevelopmen of the site which involves the}list es demolition of the hotel he letter from the Joint Sub-| COMMITTEE'S VIEW D committee report that|Committee for the Preservation] ‘T committee felt that the vr rk submitted|of Ancient Buildings requested|character and condition of the correspondence with the Minis-|that the building be preserved.|puildi ng did not justify the try of Housing and Local/The Sandgate Preservation making of a building preserva-| 3 , tr ndgate Pre- |Society supported the Joint |tion order with the consequent! _ ciety ¢ eu t|/Sub-Committee’s request. |heavy expenditure and, further- ‘committe: v re-| MATION |more, a proposal to make an servation Anci Bui ee CO te sie ee jorder of the Committee for the Pre-| The Town Clerk referred to)regevelopment would inevitablyof the area delay servation of Rural Kent relat-|the outline planning permission | = ee ing to the proposed demolition}granted on May 9th, 1961, for] of the hotel and development] demolition of the existing build posed The toBorough the committee Engineer sketch sub- of the site. jings, ction. of SnODS) saa sloping ACEH EE sou poe a NOY i0oT INC m0 BURED » je ‘an ad parking, ats with and rear stated|hotelaccess e. for the Lo erection of € shops, 0. c The Town Clerk stated that|that i i the building were to bejlicensed premises, restaurant the Royal Kent Hotel was not|preserved, it and flats showing the manner included in the Ii x prepared| ick nilar development i istry of Lown} 1] idertaken on adjoin- ge bua: MONEY TAKEN ees aor ened ICS x | jdevelopers de: od one formal en nientioned, BOW | FROM OFFICE |views of the Corporation. a supplem. list | f ¢ Naniteonite ‘al ox | The committee decided they h FTER forcing open a window) would require furthe informe at the back of Nisbet and/tion about the effect of mpany’s butcher’s shor roposed puleings upon for. Cheriton High Street on Friday|daylight to premises oppos applications|night, a raider stole £7 from the} the site. or development office, | RECOMMENDATION “IRL WAS UNCONSCIOUS IN #0: are recommending the been ar F WARDROBE Institute of British Architects in connection the town centre re edevelopment propose cheque, which was purported to] t advise them on_ the: scheme ‘gned by him and was made| 2nd its probable effect in 1 ‘savour of Miss Reeves. |tion to redevelopment of ad- "a had been pre- Jioining areas in Sandgate. Newt Hotel Sees eae mes SUSE pa Veen rae tmely New Inn PE — MACKESsv's BRew ERY THE HERALD. THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2000 THE HERALD. THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2000
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~ FEEL A PRESENCE? Eerie Dungeness and the old Mackeson’s brewery
nothing. The one watching on By ALEX HOAD the monitor saw him pass right LOCAL TALES OF GHOSTS — through the figure. HE history of ghosts in Folkestone stretches family went back to their Cow the magistrates court where premises before opening time} UNGENESS can appear a Godden identified him as saw a man of the same descrip-| rather bleak and desolate back centuries. One of Lane flat and dozens of people tion walk up the stairs onto the} place at the best of times with two the most famous is that of claimed to see strange things at George Kingsmill. His horse was Grove House. Many accounts used as evidence after it was upper floor before vanishing) sombre nuclear power stations, a |/J Grove House at the upper described a headless horse being revealed it was pure white into thin air. line of pylons strung across the except for soot on his head. A recent book, Haunted Kent} countryside to the north, a lonely end of Mill Lane. led by a ghostly man. Today, was told the suited man} The house was built in 1770 by Godden was distraught. The Kingsmill had uncovered a black lighthouse and an endless gang of smugglers who used tun- is believed to be the ghost of} expanse of shingle dotted with a wealthy tradesman. For many house was falling into disrepair Albert Thorndike, who hanged| years local grocer Richard and no one wanted to live there. nels built under the house to wooden houses. Godden admired the house. bring goods from Copt Point. himself from the stairway when When the wind whistles acr He was losing money on it. he learned Mackeson’s to When the owner died the gro- Sturt returned at Christmas Kingsmill had made up the the shingle on a cold winter’s close, making him redundant. cer, who lived on Cow Lane oppo- and was told about the situa- ghost story so people would night it would be easy to imag- site the Guild Hall, took more of leave the house alone. ine the cries of long lost souls }} tion. Over the coming weeks he NLIKE most haunted build- an interest in the house. spent hours prowling around John Sturt was the hero and drifting on the wind. married Ruth later that year. He ings, the famous Ship Inn in The area is said to have its own The house eventually moved the property. One night he saw a Sandgate has only beet housing into the ownership of George later fought and died heroically ghost, that of Katherine Eve, a |} light glimmering through the ghosts for ten years. Kingsmill but after a few in the Battle of Trafalgar. young woman who saw tragedy cellar shutters. He approached Landlord Stewart Whiffen was months he moyed out claiming but the light went out and after throughout her life and who now talking at the bar when his it was haunted. Godden, being a waiting fruitlessly for someone ox of the most famous stories is said to lure young male n. religious man, said ghosts don’t from Hythe is that of the old friend turned white as a sheet. time wanderers into the sea to emerge, he left. He had seen a black robed exist and moved in with his wife The following day he returned Mackeson’s Brewery Building, their death by drowning. and 20 year-old daughter Ruth. now called the Malthouse, in hooded figure wearing a long and looked around. In the cellar dress. The figure stayed for a Few people have seen her but A series of strange noises he found smuggled goods includ- Hythe High Street. one man who has is Andy Mullen including thuds, grinding noises In 1997 a man was seen wearing couple of seconds before vanish- ing tobacco, gin and tea. He ing. After this incident Stewart who works for the Romney, and doors opening were heard, decided to hide in the cellar and a 1930’s style suit one morning. Hythe and Dymchurch Railway. but no one was found. One of the He walked until he was ques- contacted local historian wait for the smuggler. Eamonn Rooney who found the He says he w: taying at the noises sounded like a horse That night a man dressed as a tioned by a stallholder. He just Dungeness Station House one erunching over the gravel out- miller and covered in flour smiled and without saying a premises used to be a wet fish shop. The ghost was thereafter dark, moonless night when he side the house. arrived and took some of the word turned and went to where w a young woman in a long old Ruth’s lover, John Sturt, had casks. Sturt heard the sound of the only exit was a locked door. known as the ‘fish lady.’ Since that incident two bar fashioned style dress wandering been away with the navy for a horse on gravel. The stallholder followed him across the shingle. He said she months and she was getting ner- The following night half a but the door was locked and he staff saw an old woman standing ina passageway to the kitchens, seemed distraught vous. Her nervousness spread to dozen people hid in the cellar was nowhere to be seen. ~ @ Stories were taken from Ghosts the rest of the family and even- Not long after the incident: an ona TV monitor in the bar. One and pounced when he arrived. of Shepway by Paul Harris. tually they left the house. The in electrician working in the | eee aeeatte FOLKESTONE BOROUGH RECORDS uo
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| Association are holding a Mal LE | (Continued From Page 5) Queen dance at the Institutd Hythe, on Thursday, May 2 Ihave been on the landing Jumpin dS eee ae, Dur the evening She had fallen and he and| «yp there were be Queen will be chosen. wife picked her up and| es.” declared ‘my visi iockcl not have to protest like END OF A CINEMA ied her Winifred into the Haw peas < "Gin RES daughter, said her mother = secs eek ese are pulling very deaf and suffering from |, eee Renan ti eT mse, one of old age. She complained of her|f20s ein te Be AU Des emas shoulder hurting. The next day St REID {LO Stop rn aa the doctor eH her removed to} =| Jictoria Hospital for| Sighted on the wing on|{ , and it was found) Good Friday—a butterfly at s b roken the neck of her! Morehall, the first of the se ene Paine av eshery | year. It looked like one of the lowing day she was ses] e Penn eauaetrord (nice penne rare pital, where an operation ¥ J 4 per! cone i GU Lf OF HONOUR Mrs. Allebone died on April re] i: ith at Ashford Hospital. 7 Seb. 5 ; was the & MISADVENTURE H. Bowers, ci a bilateral >: 7 . that broncho pneumonia due to the one Town E F.C. so_that| ture and to senility. a number of Jimmy's friends Summing up, the Coroner | could have the opportunity of said it was a ‘simple case of Spending an enjoyatt ee misadventure. st have been Mrs, wandering Allebone|With Marjorca, him before which will he notleaves be for] fo when she fe! a e while ye ensue ey | Di uring the pexty, ch went n quite late, Capt. March pre-|to_1 me. Wee ee nted Jimmy with a gold car} _ ndeed, the face : i | medallion which the reci- |pient said would alwa: eS Social evening at in umedne © a Be ‘welcom d jused it to start the er D mchurch |. Mr. Heath used an old S y ish custom to, show his fri ship towards those entertaining] t DN oan ee for mem-| him, He tapped each on the} eee , they i y ud of fol- e. ut in|state of ir cision and are OLD ROSE Inn! “THE .., $7. SANDSATE (53 HIGH MAAT- lh Name of Pub/ Bar When
Allied Arms - Sandgate High Street c. 1858-66
Alma - site unknown c.1854-8 Alexandra Hotel & Alhambra Theatre - formerly Bricklayers Arms. 103 c.1825-1914 Sandgate High Street British Flag - Sandgate High Street >. 1855-71 Castle Tavern formerly Martello Tower - 11 Sandgate High Street 1805-1911] City - Sandgate High Street >.1859-69 Duke of Cambridge - poss Sandgate High Street >.1857-69 - Brewers Hill .1859-present Duke of York - 5 Sandgate High Street >.1815-1911 - 23 Sandgate High Street >.1725-1974 Flower Pot - Sandgate High Street c.1859-69
Good Intent - possible Castle Road >. 1838-64 Marine Hotel - Sandgate High Street >. 1838-62 Military Tavern - Military Road (Military Hill) >. 1868-1963 Plates & Basins - site unknown >.1863 Sandgate Fort - site unknown >. 1765-72 Sandgate House - site unknown Cad Victoria Beerhouse - Sandgate High Street c.1861-9 Prince of Wales formerly Inkerman Arms - Sandgate High Street c.1858-69 - 47-49 Sandgate High Street c.1843-present
(Old) Rose Inn - 152 Sandgate High Street 1864-1968 Rose Tavern - Prospect Road 18th century formerly New Inn - 79-83 Sandgate High Street c.1775-1962
formerly Ship Inn - 7 Sandgate High Street c.1800-present Royal Oak - Sandgate Hill c.1865-1973 back bar of c.1843-69 n - 65 Sandgate High Street c.1798-present (Old) Trotting Horse - Castle Green c.1792-1804 True Briton formerly Duke of Cumberland - Chapel Street c.1858-69 Union - corner of Military Road/Sandgate High Street c.1856-60 Victoria Tavern - Sandgate High Street c.1830-71
(Duke of) Wellington - Chapel Street c.1841-69 28 -28 Sandgate High Street 1999 - current Bar Vasa - 4-5 Sandgate Esplanade 1996 - current lotel - 8-9 Wellington Terrace 1993 - current ees - rear of Royal Norfolk Hotel current BREWERIES & PUBS IN SANDGATE.
1843 Brewery run by Richard Hills recorded at Hillside. Possibly transferred to Brewers hill in 1852 c.1866 Frederick Sladden ran a brewery in Camp Rd.In 1851 became Ordnance Rd then Brewhouse Hill and by 1896,known as Brewers Hill.Brewery was
BEERHOUSES AND PUBS
ALLIED ARMS.c.1858-66 Exact location unknown.First mentioned in 1858 close to British Flag & George Worsall’s butcher shop.
ALMA ¢.1854-58 Exact location unknown. First mention in trade directory 1858.Possibly on Military Rd.Alma cottage may have been the site
ALEXANDRA HOTEL. Formerly BRICKLAYERS ARMS. 1838 John Elgar listed as butcher and beer retailer. 1858 Newly built room at rear of premises opened as a Music hall. 1863 Named the ALHAMBRA. 1867 Renamed ALEXANDRA. 1890 Sold by auction to Tom Maltby who named it NEW ALHAMBRA PALACE OF VARIETIES or commonly,Maltby’s Mansion of mirth. 1925 Became Sandgate picture palace. 1939 Rex Cinema. 1951 Closed. Demolished.Block of flats on site.
BRITISH FLAG c.1855-71 Possible location next to what is now Sandgate Café
CASTLE TAVERN c.1805-1911.Formerly MARTELLO TOWER. Located opposite Enbrook Park.Became a garage in 1911.
CITY ¢.1859-69 Location unknown except it was in the High St
DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE.c.1857-69 Location unknown
CLARENDON INN c.1859- present.Located on Brewers Hill.Named after the 4" Earl of Clarendon.Damaged in landslip of 1893 noted unable to cook for customers.Sladden’s Brewery stood at the rear in Wellington Place.
DUKE OF YORK c.1815-1911.Located a few buildings east of the Royal Norfolk.In W.W,1 it became ALLIES CAFE.Remained a café for a number of years and also Le BOUGIE BISTRO.
FLEUR DE LIS c.1725-1974.Recorded in 1778 only 3 houses in Sandgate one being the Fleur.Said to have been a meeting place for smugglers and haven of rest for shipwrecked sailors. 1888 Almost completely rebuilt. Licence remained in the Flisher family for 175 years from 1741 FLOWER POT c.1859-69.Location thought to be across High St from Providence Inne
GOOD INTENT. C.c.1838-64.Possible location what is now York House in Castle Rd
MARINE HOTEL.No dates.Located on the site where the present Coastguard Cottages stand.Duke of Wellington known to have stayed there.
MILITARY TAVERN. c.1868-1963.Popularly known as the Hole in the wall.Demolished .Site now village green and car park opposite War Memorial bottom of Military Rd
PLATES AND BASINS c¢.1863.Site unknown.Only mention of it by Colonal Fynmore in1863 report
SANDGATE FORT. C.1765-72.Location unknown.Possibly became Castle Tavern
SANDGATE HOUSE.c.1717.Location unknown.In 1717 list of Folkestone beerhouses.Foot of Sandgate Hill to thr Fleur De Lis was Folkestone until boundry changes in 1934.
VICTORIA BEERHOUSE.c. 1861-69. Location unknown.Near ssite of Rose Inn possibly.One of two names Victoria.
PRINCE OF WALES c.1858-69.Formerly INKERMAN ARMS 1860 Records show Inkerman Arms 1863 Records show Prince of Wales.Exact location unknown.
PROVIDENCE INNE c.1843-present.Exact year of opening unknown. 1826 Directory lists John Elgar as Pork Butcher. 1838 direcrory now a butcher and beer retailer. 1852 Slaughter house built at the back. 1854 Named PROVIDENCE. 1970s Extended into Sea Breeze Café on corner
ROSE INN c.1864-1968. On High St. Listed in 1864 Closed 1968.Early 70s was an Art Gallery.Now private dwelling
ROSE TAVERN c.18"" century.Prospect Rd. Only information is a consultancy document in 2000 stating that Lawn Cottage was an Sis century inn named ROSE TAVERN
ROYAL KENT & TAP c.1775-1962.Formerly NEW INN. 1848 Tap built 1859 Refitted and refurbished,name changed to KENT HOTFI 1866 Renamed ROYAL KENT HOTEL due to discovery that Princess Victoria (later Queen) had stayed there. 1890 Extensive damage inin severe storm 196? Finally closed to he demolished Onnoasition to this resulted in the farmatian of the Sandgate Society.Unable to stop it.Block of flats now on site ROYAL NORFOLK HOTEL. C.1800-present. Formerly named the SHIP 1QKA Riret referred ta oc the RAVAT NAREOT K dna ta the Ducheace af Narfall having an extended stay there with her children 1901 Old building demolished to make way for new building opened in June 1902
ROYAL OAK c.1865-1973.Sandgate Hill.Last Licence holder was Ena Pafford a retired Music Hall and ENSA artiste under the name of Ena Dayne.She lived in the property until her death in 1977.Now a private house.
SEBASTOPOL c.1843-69.South View.(back bar of Ship Inn) 1861 Owner and tenant fined for state of repair.No further record of Sebastopol.
SHIP INN.c.1789-present 1798 Documents show building was built. 1838 Directory shows Mr.Hogben carried on business as a Fishmonger and Beer Retailer in the SHIP. 1890 Beer is now sold in front part of building as Fish shop has ceased.Extensive alterations took place resulting in present appearance. 1929 Granted Full Licence to sell Beer,Wines and Spirits. 1954Extensive alterations to interior. Said to have a ghost of a “Fish Lady’ whose appearance is accompanied by a strong smell of fish.
TROTTING HORSE.c. 1792-1804 Castle Green. 1792 Earliest reference. 1798 Plan shows the location near the Castle when the building was up for sale In Fynmore’s reference to Castle Green School,he says it was originally the Trotting Horse InnThis would indicate that the Trotting Horse and the Good Intent were in fact two different houses.
TRUE BRITON.c.1859-69 Fomerly DUKE OF CUMBERLAND 1858 Directory lists Duke of Cumberland. 1859 Directory now lists True Briton.
UNION c.1856-60.Corner of Military Hill & High St,Rear of premises opened onto Reynolds Lane (now Gough Rd.) 1860 1860 Folkestone Chronicle reports on state of building and nightly occurances that outrage public decency. 1861 Demolished.
VICTORIA TAVERN c.1830-71.Located where War Memorial now stands 1859 For sale with Spirits bar,livery stables and assembly room. 1871 Licence not renewed.Premises sold. 1873 Demolished.
(DUKE OF) WELLINGTON.c. 1841-69 Chapel St. 1868 Had a skittle alley 1869 Licence refused. 1893 Badly damaged in landslip, Most of the beerhouses in Sandgate had their licences withdrawn by the Local Board of Health in 1869.
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‘(HE Military Tavern, betterremembers his first drink in the known as the “Hole in the|bar when he came to Shornclifle Wall,” one of the many public y ago on his return from houses opened in Bandeete dur- ing in the South African the |; century, ended a long) Wa association with the Army and e still dropped into. the Shorncliffe Camp on Monday ili Tave! for a drink when the landlord called * t tlemen, please,” for the 1: At that 1¢ the beer sold me t 2 Flint’s Canterbury E The tiny public-house, at the|al inthis _ s has taken place on the corner over the years. This photograph wa Military Road, was/ares The ery was taken Very little change bottom of on St. Patrick’s Day at the turn of the century, when the opened in about 1868 a beer|over by 940 taken outside the public house house 3 FOR THR "EARS Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers marched down Military Road. At that the Government,| _, n 1 to chan I present Deere of the peopl S arit Ling habits, allowed|Military Tavern, Mr. < Field- y houses to sell beer but not|Send and his wife a both spitits In the area near to the|Lor » have be pulling camp and in Folkestone many T > for the last three premises which now house more|¥ , ; 43, was pec le businesses were con- Mieldsend, now verted into rather din beer|born and L t up in Ilford He joined the R.A.F. befor houses The experiment was from|Second World War and sex assful: most of tl sey |for nine years until 1947. Ss closed down after a f In the years that followed he years and the problems of drink|/@2d his wife managed a number were not solved. of London public-houses, includ- ng the Trevor ms in Knights- SURVIVED bridge and th 3 Lour 3ut 2 better beer ho which included the M vthe seven years Tavern, remained open and Mr. F sidiwou! fox many survive to this day as|Messrs. Nev eto pubile houses ‘foun der
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: licence to convert a; pub now a thrift club w house into the beer|pays out £2,000 a year the time Henry John k”) pub, ichlan, who die is collected about : Y © Oh 0 URE EDR AOROSS THE ROAD When they moved on Monday the did not ave to go far rhe: » the new landlords of he - 5 on the other g member of Sand-|side of ate High Street 3} ‘ about ards away M nid on Tue y to thank all 5 middle of the ars their support. last centur fack” was.ajin-th@ last three years. I_hap< very ndlord they will drop into r ew pub for. a drink and a game of NICKNAME cribbage, S probably at about this At Seabrook Court for the at the Tavern got its|transfer of the licence of the Hole in the|Fleur-de-Lis Mr. Tom to preve. t|Shakespeare Fieldsend g inside the house} be Mr. C. He’ 1-Phillips a ved with beer|hotel valuer of Whitstable hatch in the wall of} He remembers that in 1800 he was working as_ an office boy pub” has had ¢ ng\with a firm of aluer who ASsociation with transferred the licence for the stationed at Shorncliffe. One of|public-house He clearly recalls its oldest Regulars, 89-year-old|the horse-drawn trams which Mr. Jim Richmond, of 90,j/ran between Hythe and Sand- Chiche Road, Sandgate,|gate. stone, Hythe & District He
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y_explosive| his com-|P¥ two ad c ad Dther than sthundertsso-saidit-wasmot his own car witness stated regimental sergea nt | “In these conversations he major of the battalion, O.1|}was quite serious, but on tl he Dodkins, said that other hand it Js di sae to 18th he Ss order: ses {know when he: is play x 0) Rees rivate n thelis genuine. I am" still not sur AY ar Raflael told him|whether the whole thing was al ) ey would find it anyway/hoax, even now , and he would give it to me. At the time he appear to he accused had earlier been asked whether he was in posses DY serious. Frankly, I was a bt red and I did not hesitate to sion of and ad|s mont the matter the following i,|replied t making. no da h- BLALEMENL » I found that in joining i THE HERALD. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2000
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Presi and Sally Russell, of The Street, charabanc, stacked with passengers, standing % Postling, Hythe, are both descended outside the Wonder Tavern, which stood on another oro street corner. from publicans in either Folkestone Eamonn and Martin tell us that the South Foreland or Sandgate and thought Memories was opened in 1855 as wine and spirit vaults by James readers would be interested to see some Golder Robinson. He died just two years later but his photographs of the old public houses. widow carried on the business for another five years, Mrs Russell was prompted to contact me after the until 1862. publication of the excellent locally produced book Then Charles Jordan obtained the lease. He was the “Tales From the Tap Room” by local history first of five of his family to hold the licence until the enthusiasts Eamonn Rooney and Martin Easdown. South Foreland’s untimely end - blown to pieces by a She was quick to notice that the only photograph German parachute mine on the night of November 18, the authors had been able to track down relating to 1940. The damage was photographed by the Herald. Harry Jordan’s South Foreland pub, on the the ill-fated South Foreland public house, was a 1912 It is hardly surprising that it was a member of the corner of Seagate Street, with his daughters view showing a glimpse of the corner of the building Jordan family who should turn up with family Florence and Nancy Jordan in the doorway. and the Pavilion Livery Stables, which once stood on photographs of the South Foreland public house. Nancy, the youngest is believed to have been the the opposite corner of Seagate Street — which ran For Mrs Russell is a descendant of Charles Jordan and, as well as photographs, she has copies of winner of the county’s first beauty contest, at from Dover Street to Beach Street. the Folkestone Hippodrome, in 1902. Brother Obscuring most of the ground floor was a big documents concerning the lease of the public house to members of the family. Frank was a later licensee. LEFT: The Providence On the death of Charles Jordan Inn, Sandgate, picturing Peter Russell’s great- In 1874, his widow Maria took grandparents, Charles and Annie Russell. The over the lease for 14 years, the family also had the Ship, at Dymchurch. first seven years at £80 per annum and the second seven at in the public house during the air- Next door to the South Foreland Harry Jordan was quite a cele- 90 a year. Unfortunately Mrs raid. But, sadly, Ronald ran aged according to my 1938 Kelly's brity, being well known as a bit of Jordan failed to see out the term 20, was, "and he was ki directory, was another public an expert on horses and of her lease, dying on September According to a Russell" s house, the Chequers Inn. greyhounds and also for his roses copies of the leases of the South Mrs Russell is a grand-daughter and sweet peas. And he did his According to Tales From the Tap Foreland, ‘Harry’ Jordan was of Frank Jordan and his wife Clara share of what one may term Room she was succeeded as mine granted a 28 year lease of the Ellen (née Herring.) She and her charitable work behind the host at the South Foreland, in South Foreland in 1888 by husband have three children, scenes, particularly in the turn, by son Henry (1883-1913), Rebecca Robinson. Nicola Trimble, Neil and Matthew Fishmarket area. known to all as ‘Harry,’ Henry's He died on January 30, 1913 but jussell. Peter Russell's great widow Annie (1913-24) and then his wife Annie carried on the It was unusual for a licensee's grandparents, Charles and Annie ‘grandson’ Frank Jordan from public house and, by agreement, name to be painted on a public Russell, were licensees of the 1924 uel 1940, when it was became the official tenant from house in such large letters - bigger Providence Inn, Sandgate. The destroyed. March 25, 1916, on a yearly than the name of either the ‘local’ Russells also had the Ship, at The athens probably meant the tenancy at £85 rent per year. or the brewers, Leney’s of Dover. Dymchurch at one time. grandson of Charles Jordan, for Previous to taking the South But Harry Jordan was an | slipped up in the caption to Alan 7 Mrs Russell points out Frank Foreland Charles Edward Jordan institution. Bluff and outspoken, Taylor § picture in Memories of the AISNAP lef licenses MaRrankwordaniand daughter Beaty Jordan, Charles Jordan was the son of was described as a fly proprietor. he was a typical John Bull, says a turbine steamer Onward, in saying it was pictured leaving Folkestone. It later Mrs John Cooper, at the bar of the South Foreland. Dorothy, Henry and Elizabeth Ann Jordan. Mackesons took over the pub glowing tribute in “Rambles Fortunately for Frank he wasn't was Boulogne. Sorry Alan. who married John Cooper in 1934, was Sally Russell’s mother. around 1920. Around Folkestone” (1891-1913.)
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Still Time To Save The |spir wey Royal Kent |Labe Sir—On read ing in last week's} JT Herald” of the imminent} are demolition of he Ri oyal Kent) tow: Hotel, Sandgate, I am’ amazed suit hat there was, jele apparent y, no | a tempt on the ‘part “of th he}, Counet il to save ZeC his historic} suff. 17) h century. old. coas ching inn’ Once the” Roy: } Kent is pulled do’ wo, he continuation of SANDGATE gate a. {li limi a quiet, unspoil t jot i fishing ‘villag, e of great. charm WILL DELIGHT } ; YOU BECAUSE |is doomed. This in | Sr sea-angling, golfing, health and itself will be} {ei the most inviting little bathing, boating, It is one of whos sé Visitors.alway; S find “the orts in Great Britain. contras| holiday res in eve ry way, the more sophisticated between. Folk 2 While Sandgate is distinctly unconventional ant walk away. spaciousness and moderni: ride—fare 2 d.—or pleas: gai attractions of Folkestone are only a short bus arm and pleasant gularly equabl e. It is actually w. climate of Sandgate i sin; Sand-|m The Leas at Folkestone. times when people sh iver on the I ave “no -voice| here at all ordinary req’ uirements. uction: o: if orig: ate has sufficient ex! cellent shop: s to meet sai nd. muck art Sandg le broken by patc hes of smooth firm n.that is’ p: of he history. Proc ne clear n yellow shing an d charm their vi dr The B each is of fi lore the most picturesque age and base from which the motoris t may exp raordinary. |so fé It is a convenient land. Sandg: ate is midway between be known that jo ft historically interestin g corner of En 2) Pi ortion of th e most gi er Race Course is five miles distant ; fashionable Folkestone. Westenhan >) reservation Societ ancient Hythe and Ashford, thirteen ; Deal, fifteen ; is affiliated to and bei: is also five ; Dover 1s e1: g ht and a half 7 and Room Lympne Air P ort Rye an d Winchelsea, twenty-one ; The Billiard and Smoking by the Committee for Canterbury, seventeen ; Sandwich, seventeen |Servation of Rura en! The Society also has:as its}for v London, sixty-nine. honorary | advisor the well-' Su own. architer t, Mr. Anthony sma Page Twelve ° Swaine » PRIBIA. who as: by bl tl | Chairman | of. the Canterbur; y} |Pr rva ion Societ; and wi h Be 10/10, E appeared on Southern ITV } Hy | Speaking’ on: beha! Jf of these shis- |toric and interestin old: build- ings and-villa Ze: Sand igate Preserva ti ion Socie | lis di loing all-in its power to stop }
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f End Rota Lv \ mw 1 Hole L “” Site ‘For’ Flats At ‘Sandgate _ pov = SA one LAT = rf ; ‘ stone (QbXL HE Royal Kent Hotel in Sandgate High Street,’ in cot T stone the oldest:\hotel in Folkestone, is» closing; is as! down in a-fortnight’s time and will be demol- by th year. It has been sold: The ished by the end of the 68 en to a group of property developers who plan’to put up a Riviera-style plock of luxury flats with restaurant and garage: s on the site, It, is understood >that’! the’ seaside resort,” he ‘said. ;“* De- developers are negotiating * to spite-some reports to whe con- buy ‘Caffyn’s Garage *next, trary, we have had a very bad the hotel, using ‘both sites .for season’ in the town. My hotel their’ proposed building.» has: been: full*for only the past A ‘spokesman ‘at “Messrs. fortnight, and it will be full for Caffyn’s Ltd.. head office “at another. fortnight unti? I close _. Eastbourne told the Folkestone lown, |" 3 rf the Herald on Thursday: ‘“¥You cannot run a hotel on t? good business for four weeks of|® but nothing has been fixed ye' the year-and forget, aoout the Folkestone Corporation -are other. 48. If I‘ were ccntinuing aware pf the proposed deyelop- as a’ hotelier in’ Folkestone ‘I ment, although no plans have’ should *be very\,worricd about yet been officially laid before my prospects.” « ‘ : the Council's Building’ Plans Co) * Committee. Mr. Fyson has no definite four Both the _hotel-and the gar- plans for the future. When he perie age are--within an) area in leaves ‘the hotel at the end of three respect of which the Council|O have decided to engage planning consultants ‘to advise on future redeyelopment. The Royal Kent Hotel, which Mr: Fyson took over in 1948, has THIRD HOTEL LOST a long and hohouraple' history: The Royal Kent Hotel, which was built about the year 1600, Ruskin was a regulsr. visitor, has. 28.\bedroom. It will be the and Mrs. Siddons, the: actress, third important hotel; lost. to was so enchanted by it that she the town this year. 4 had her own house built in the The former Majestic Hotel at grounds. This house was sub-| the‘ corner: of Sandgate Road’ sequenly taken: over as part of 3 and: Castle “Hill Avenue closed the hotel. 5 down on March 3ist, and the ROYAL GUESTS Queen’s Hotel, opposite Folke- The ‘most illustrious guest, -stone Town Hall, will be empty however, -was Queen Victoria,|i by the end of December, await- who, in the days when she was ing: demolition preparatory to Princess Victoria, .staved there the building of a shopping and with her mother, the Luchess of office centre. ent. 1 The developers of the Royal x The result of her visit was Kent.“Hotel have not been the addition of the Royal appel- named to the Press, but Mr. Jation- tothe name of the hotel. : Christopher Fyson, the hotel The Royal Kent has been proprietor, said.that they plan associated. with the Army for to start demolishing the build-| ing on November Ist, whether centuries, and was ii regular or not their development plans use by: the militia during the Napoleonic’ Wars. > have been approved. by the Council. X | During Mr. Fyson’s: pro- “T have seen the plans,” Mr. prietorship the*,military tradi- Fyson said, “ and I'can tell you tions “have ‘been maintained, that the. flats ‘they intend ‘to and many officers and men from build are quite unlike anything Shorncliffe. Hythe,- ¢nd other Folkestone has seen ‘before, ,* garrisons have:.been. enter- +.“ They’ will, be’ large ‘luxury tained. there. z flats—the sort you would expect’ In ‘those .14 years Mr. Fyson to find at a place like Cannes.” has built up a unique collection t A BAD SEASON .. “jof.. regimental plaqtics which Mr. Fyson said that;although) ‘nave been presented *to him by, , “he and many others: would= be satisfied customers. 5 ;.Sad to, see such a-historic-builds| >There sare now -abdut= 160. of ing as the tRoya}-K enbsdlemols| 3 4 thi ex andsomely ‘nrvunted,. on ‘ished, he was not worried‘ abou' thé walls of his bar, and they the effect 6n Folkestone of the will be. presented td ‘the, Bed- loss of another, hotel. fordshire .’ Regiment." by Mr; “Folkestone is finished. as’ a Fyson‘in*February. Forecasts (Channel. Cargo Shir