HOB00000219 Draft MPS Witness Statement of John Hoban With
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RESTRICTED (when complete) MG11C WITNESS STATEMENT Criminal Procedure Rules, r 27. 2; Criminal Justice Act 1967, s. 9; Magistrates' Courts Act 1980, s.SB URN Statement of: John Hoban Age if under 18: Over 18 (ifover1Binsert 'over1B') Occupation: Senior Building Surveyor This statement (consisting of 13 pages) each signed by me) is true to the best of my knowledge and belief and I make it knowing that, if it is tendered in evidence, I shall be liable to prosecution if I have wilfully stated in it anything which I know to be false, or do not believe to be true. Witness Signature: .. oo .oo. 00 0 00000.000 00000 .oo o ooooo oo ·· 00 0 00 .oo. 00000000 .oo. 00000 .oo ......... oo . ............ oo .. Date: This statement relates to the fire which occurred at Grenfell Tower on the Tuesday the 14th June 2017 in the Royal London Borough Kensington and Chelsea. During this statement, I will be discussing the position I held within the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea Council as a Senior Building Control Officer, and my duties at the time of the regeneration project of Grenfell Tower. During my statement, I will be mentioning a number of colleagues. John Alien who was the Head Building Control and also the person I reported to. Jose Anon, who acted as John Alien's deputy when he was not in. Parvinder Verdee and Amir Fardouee were also senior building control officers and worked in my department. Paul Hanson was also a senior surveyor in my department and was the fire regulations surveyor for the council in Building Control. All of the afore-mentioned surveyors were on a higher grade than myself. I started my career in building control in 1979 with the Greater London Council, and then I transferred to the Royal Borough on 1st of April 1986. For the first 12 years of my employment with the council I was dealing with the Chelsea area of the borough, and then I was transferred to deal with various other districts as instructed by the head of building control when directed to do so. I have provided a map of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to assist with my description of my areas I covered, which I exhibit as JEH/01. I shall make reference to this map during my statement. I was responsible for administering various sections of the borough. My final area was from approximately the Cromwell Road and then Northward up Victoria Road the Eastern boundary of my area, which is Queens Gate wWard, half way along there, and then I travelled Northwards all the way up to West Way. I dealt with everything, building regulation matters, from Victoria Road and the boundary with Westminster, all the way up to the West Way on one side, and the boundary with Hammersmith, from the Cromwell Road all the way up to the West Way,. tThat was my final area. There was a major restructuring within my department about four years ago, in 2013, when the department was restructured and there was a reduction of staff as a consequence. My area just prior to that changed, it was approximately from Kensington High Street and it tied in with the borough of Westminster and then as far as the Camden Ward, which is approximately up to Holland Park in the Camden Ward. I was also doing the Pembridge Ward and Colville Ward, and then once that happened John Alien, who was the major projects surveyor, became the head of building control so he was dealing with major projects in the borough and when John Allan was not in I reported to his deputy Jose Anon. Witness Signature: .. 00.00. 00.00. 00.00. 00.00. 00.00 00 •• 00.00. 00.00. 00.00. 00.00. 00.00 . ...... ............ oo ............. oo ..................... 00 .... .. Signature Witnessed by Signature: .. oo. 00 .oo.oo. 00000.00.000 00000. ooooo oo · .oo . ooooo . 00 .oo . oo .00 . 00. ooooo oo ........ oo . ..................... .. Page 1 of 13 99/12 RESTRICTED (when complete) HOB00000219/1 HOB00000219 0001 RESTRICTED (when complete) MG11C Continuation of Statement of: I started working for the council in 1986 as senior building control officer the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea, and resigned as a senior building control officer a week before Christmas in 2016. I had to give three months' notice, my last official day at work was the 31st March 2017. I had five weeks' holiday owed to me, but I went back to hand in my telephone and card after that date, I can't remember when I handed my computer back. I resigned because I had enough, I was finding it impossible to do the job the way I was trained to do. lt was the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea who paid my salary. I worked in a senior role but didn't have anyone working for me, the exception being 'Qas' Waqaas Rashid please note that Qas's full name is Waqaas Rashid and Qas is an abbreviation of his first name, which people including my-self would use when addressing him and/ or referring to him in conversations, who was a graduate, who I took out to explain things to, and also the mentoring I did with junior members of staff. Parvinder and Amir were also senior building control officers, but they also dealt with dangerous structures and so got paid more than me. Jose was a principle and was a team leader. The structure changed when John Allan was head of building control. My qualifications are, an Ordinary certificate in Building Studies, Higher certificate in Building Studies, a member of The Charted Association of Building Engineers but only an associated member, I am not a full member as I am not fully qualified. When I first joined the Greater London Council I was on a training programme for about nine months where I attended training seminars covering regulations two or three times a week. I had interview boards and had a mentor and acted like his PA in the early stages of my career, and then when I joined Kensington we had seminars and I would attend training courses from time to time. Prior to the demise of the GLC (Greater London Council) there were separate regulations for Inner London called the London Building Acts and constructional by-laws. When that was abolished we then went to the national regulations and then universal guidelines for England and Wales, but there were still parts of the London Building Act that was in force. I and the other surveyors dealt with perhaps the not so big projects, and then in November 2013 John Alien gave me the Academy and the Leisure Centre and also please note that the fu ll names for Academy and the Leisure Centre [ afore-mentioned] is the Kensington Aldridge Academy and Kensington Leisure Centre Kensington Albridge Aldridge Academy and Kensington Leisure Centre. John had been working on it and contractors had commenced the actual building works at that stage, and I was instructed to deal with them. Grenfell Tower came along at a later stage. John Alien and Paul Hansen did the initial meetings regarding Grenfell Tower. My area was there and I had those projects to deal with at that stage. Later on Hilary Wyatt who was the person was dealing with Netting Dale and Norland Wards left, and I was instructed to deal with her area at a later stage at that time, I can't give you a date, those records can be found with the council. And then as time progressed the person that was dealing with Holland Ward, Celia Burt, left and again I was instructed by John Alien to deal with that area, plus my other area. John Alien's deputy, Jose', was dealing north of West Way and there was a gentleman in our office that dealt with this area. I'll explain the wards, Jose would have been dealing with part of the Brompton and Hans Town, Queens Gate and Abingdon Wards, and Parvinda Verdee dealt with the rest of Brompton, Hans Town, Courttfield, Redcliffe and Earls Court. And Amir Fardouee dealt with Stanley, Royal Hospital and the Chelsea riverside area. At that stage I believe John was still dealing with a number of major projects, but he handed those over to various people as time progressed. Then unfortunately Colin Ryan passed away, he was quite a young man, and his area was divided up and that's when I got that final bit of the area, which was half of Queens Gate. I can't remember if Adbingdon Ward was given solely to me or whether it was divide up between Amir, Parvinder and myself, but I was certainly doing projects along there as well as my other duties. I dealt with projects in Netting Dale, Norland, Colville, Pembridge, Holland, Camden and parts of Witness Signature: .............................................................................. ........................ .......... ............ ..... HOB00000219/2 HOB00000219 0002 Signature Witnessed by Signature: ............. ........................................................................................... .. Page 2 of 13 RESTRICTED (when complete) MG11C Continuation of Statement of: Abingdon, I may have dealt with all of it but I'm not certain. Colin passed away and we shared out his work and I had part of Queens Gate area. I would now like to discuss my main duties, which I take from my statement, exhibited a JEH/02. My main duties comprised of dealing with building regulations applications within the designated area of the borough, for which I have been instructed to administer. My responsibilities include vetting of applications, attending meetings both on site and in the office, as is necessary to discharge the Councils obligations and functions under the Building Act and Building Regulations and other applicable statutory instruments, for which the building control officer was responsible for administering.