Friday, July 15, 1977 Asadha 24, 1899 (Saka)
LOK SABHA DEBATES
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Second Session, i*77/i*9J (Saka)
(Vol. I l l contains Nos. 11 to 20)
L O K SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CON TENTS
No. 30, Friday, July 15, 19771Asadha 24, 1899 (Saka)
C o lu m n s
Oral Answers to questions :
♦Starred questions Nos. 485, 486, 488 and 490 to 492 . . 1— 33
Short Notice question No. 1 9 ...... 33—'42
Written Answers to questions :
Starred Questions Nos. 487, 489 and 493 to 504 . . . 42— 56
Unstarred questions Nos. 3592 to 3630, 3632 to 3696, 3698 to 3743. 3745 to 375° and 3752 to 3757 .... 56— 233
Statement correcting Answer to Unstarred Question No. 845 dt. 1 7 - 6 - 1 9 7 7 ...... 233— 34
Re. Deaths due to liquor-poisoning in Delhi .... 234— 35
Papers laid on the T a b l e ...... 235— 38, 367— 68
Statement re. Reservation of vacancies for the physically handicapped for certain posts in Central Government and Public Sector Under takings—
Dr. Pratap Chandra Chunder ...... 239_ 40
Finance (No. 2) Bill, 1977—
Motion »to consider . 240— 309
Shri H.M. Patel . • • • . 240— 53
Shri Yashwantrao Chavan . • • • 253— 70
Shri Parmanand Govindjiwala f • • 270— 78
Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu • * • • 1 VO E
Shri Janeshwar Mishra 1 • • . 294— 304
Shri Janardhana Poojary i • • • 304— 309
•The sign+marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor o f the House by that Member. C olumns
Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions Second Report • • • 1 *' • • • ■ • • 309
Bills introduced— (1) Constitution (Amendment) Bill {Amendment of article 217) by Shri Om Prakash Tyagi ...... 309
(2) Essential Commodities (Amendment) Bill (Substitution of section 10A) by Shri K. L a k k a p p a ...... 310
(3) Unemployment Allowance Bill by Shri K. Lakkappa . 310
(4) Caste System (Abolition) Bill by Shri K. Lakkappa . 310
(5) Eradication of Poverty Scheme Bill by Shri K. Lakkappa . 310
(6) Prevention of Social Disabilities Bill by Dr. Vasant Kumar P a n d i t ...... 311
(7) Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of article 51) by Shri Hari Vishnu Kamath ...... 312
(8) Haj Committee (Amendment) Bill {Amendment of sections 7 and 8) by Shri G.M. Banatwalla ...... 312
Publication and Import of Political Literature by Foreign Missions in India (Regulation) Bill, by Shri Samar Guha— Withdrawn 312
Shri Samar Guha ...... 313— 21
Shri P.K. Deo ...... 322— 23
Shri Vayalar R a v i...... 323— 28
Prof. P.G. Mavalankar ...... 329— 34
Shri Om Prakash T y a g i ...... 334— 40
Dr. Ramji S in g h ...... 340— 43
Shrimati Ahilya P. R a n g n e k a r ...... 343— 47
Shri M.N. Govindan Nair ...... 347— 50
Shri K. L a k k a p p a ...... 350— 53
Shri Charan S i n g h ...... 353— 65
Lokpal Bill—
-Shri P.K. D e o ...... 366 LOK SABHA DEBATES
" = *gT T nS r 2 LOK SABHA was to be paid in rupees in terms of the agreement between the sculptress and the Central Campaign Commit Friday, July 15, 1977 /Asadha 24, 1899 tee of the All India Congress Com (Saka) mittee. No actual release of foreign ex change has, however, been made by the Reserve Bank of India in the absence of any application from the The Lok Sabha met at Central Campaign Committee of the Eleven of the Clock All India Congress Committee.
[Mr. Deputy Speaker in the Chair] (b) and (c). Since the Govern ment of India did not place any order ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS for the construction of the statue, it is not possible to indicate wliethei Installation of Statue of former Prime the order for the construction of the Minister statue has been placed and when the work of construction of statue is like •485. SHRI BAPUSAHEB PARU- ly to be completed. In view of this, LEKAR: Will the Minister of FIN the question of the Government in ANCE AND REVENUE AND BANK tending to fix up the said statue does ING be pleased to state: not also arise. SHRI BAPUSAHEB PARULEKAR: (a) whether it is a fact that an The hon. Minister in his reply says amount of U.S. $30,000 (nearly Rs. 2.7 that no actual release of foreign ex lakhs) was sanctioned by the Finance change has been made by the Re Ministry through a letter in February, serve Bank of India because no appli 1977 for putting up a statue of the then cation has been received from the Prime Minister Mrs. Indira Gandhi; Central Campaign Committee of the AICC. May I therefore ask the hon (b) if so, whether the order for the Minister whether he would release construction of the statue has been this amount of $ 15,000 if an applica placed and with*whom; and tion is received from them? ...... (Interruptions) (c) when the work of construction of statue is likely to be completed and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let the where do the Government intend to Finance Minister reply. fix up the said statue? SHRI H. M. PATEL: The money THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND would be released if the demand REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI comes. H. M. PATEL); (a) The sculptress SHRi BAPUSAHEB PARULEKAR: who was commissioned by the Cen In reply to parts (b) and (c) the tral Campaign committee of the All hon. Minister says, “the question of India Congress Committee ko prepare government intending to fix up the a statue of Smt. Indira Gandhi was said statue does not arise’*. If such a to receive payment equivalent to request is made by the committee, $ 30,0001 T h i s Department sane- may I know whether the government tioned foreign exchange amounting to proposes to give permission to erect $ 15,000/? only as the remaining sum that particular statue? 1533 LS— 1 3 Oral Answers JULY 15, 1977 Oral Answers 4
SHRI H. M. PA T E L : This is a that while sanctioning money, you question to which I am not in a posi will see that...... tion to answer today MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER; Mr. DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDIT: Kundu, You should be very short in The hon. Finance Minister stated that putting your question. money would be released in case an SHRi H. M. PATEL: This sanc application is preferred. Has he made tion of foreign exchange was convey enquiries whether the sculptress had ed before this Government c«tnie into already started on the work and power. who is the person on whom the order has been placed and what is her SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE : You nationality? can withdraw it now. SHRI H. M. PATEL: The sculp SHRI H. M. PATEL: It can be tress on whom the order was placed done. That is something which we is Mrs. Freda Brilliant. I am not in can consider certainly. But the gene a position to say what her nationality ral policy of this Government is, is I am also not in a position to say whatever commitments have been as to Whether she has started the made by the previous Government, work or not. The order was placed by those commitments have to be hon the Central Campaign Committee of oured. Therefore, we shall make en the All-India Congress Committee. A quiries to see whether this order has request was made by the Central been placed. Campaign Committee for placing order for such a statue, pointing out that it ( Interruptions) involves so much of foreign ex MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Let him change. What they asked for was the complete his answer. assurance that such an amount of foreign exchange would be released as SHRj H. M. PATEL : In view of and when the sculptor would become what the hon. Member has said we available. The approval has been shall make enquiries as to whether given and if the demand comes we the order has been placed. Then we shall consider it. can consider this matter. SHRI S. KUNDU : Mr. Deputy *ft w r it e * : *5ft *ft ^ ^ Speaker, Sir, it is indeed shocking to hear the Finance Minister saying that fo 15 ^*nr srar ^ ir ^ the money would be sanctioned if the r«Kk A W * ^ ?ftfcr application is made. He holds a very important portfolio and the Janata ^ f% fnTc9
srf^mr w t irfa f a n xft* trefrr «pt fo r *f ftf^TT + SHRI SONU SINGH PATIL: May «ft tA t sftft ^ siRthi I know who was heading this Central Campaign Committee of the AICC «ftf ^7T and what was the compelling ground >»lH+lO «fV ^ ? for sanctioning 15,000 dollars for erecting such a statue? SHRI H. M .PATEL: There is no SHRI H. M. PATEL: I think the information with me about it. letter that was received by the Fin SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: May I ance Ministry was from Shri Yashpal know when this application was re Kapur. The letter said that they have commissioned the world-famous ceived from this so called Central Campaign Committee? The Chairman sculptress Freda Brilliant to prepare of the Committee was very respect a 7 feet high bronze statue of Mrs. Gandhi at a cost of 30,000 dollars. As able. He commands respect even to I said, we will see what progress has day. Babu Jagjivan Ram was the been made and if nothing has been Chairman. My question is: When was this application received from Mr. done, we shall cancel it. Yashpal Kapur for foreign exchange? THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI And later, did you receive a copy of MORAjRJl DESAI); Even if an order the contract entered into by the Com is placed, Government is going to mittee and the concerned persons cancel it. * abroad making the statue?
sft rrtwwirm : SHRI H. M. PATEL : Why should I STETR' ^ If W receive any contract? The letter was | I farT W t ^ received by the Finance Ministry on the 16th of November, 1976, from Shri «»T ^ ?»T I Yashpal Kapur, General Secretary of 7T HjSRHI nttft aft 5PII% the Central Campaign Committee of the All India Congress Committee, % fait jts b io 'll % *tpt *ft iftx stating that as indicated already they have commissioned a sculptor. fowfl tfXTR ^ ^ ft if *TaT ftTOT$ fcfT g I *£Y*T?T V? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The hon. Member wants to know whether i?? frraff * t qsnsr-qw#3T aft there is any proposal to change tbe PfnjT WT «TT, ^ fwr ^H^TT, names of roads and statues having v ro r *5t sprat -n iy m ff *T foreigners’ names. That does not arise from this question. ftf^rr ^ i fair t^r ar^cT z f t farst ?ftft | ft aft ¥*T % iroftvr, im tv r r tr y | ftn^R % fat* f*rrtt tjffWf ^TT?ftiT ^TO*4fl ti $ TOT*T ^ToPr ^ ^Tj^TT g— sr^rc % ^rr% *tt * 4 8 6 * TOHT FTPft : SRTT ^ afr *A ipft TTO *T*T*t : t t z m VEfoT, fn^lcT f®Fm anRTT ^ ? flqW % *rr*F tr^r ?rtr wft THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE *TT^TT arft ^ I IT© 7JTT ^ft^X AND CIVIL SUPPLIES AND CO OPERATION (SHRI MOHAN DHA- ^rr i *ft— w fa g *f RIA) : '(a) Efforts made for market ing of Indian goods to South America, ^ tH!5T ^TS^TT ^l^rll ^ I 3T o Africa and South Rist Asia include rm TTTtfr S *r? conducting of market surveys, send ing sales delegations, holding of Indian «ft f r fa^ ft sr^rff SFt?ftT exhibitions, participation in interna fq^H WTTf % TTRT 'TT «Rt V tional exhibitions, commercial publi ♦TPTT 4M\ ajTPf | 3FTT MtIH HcTl city, granting soft credits, concluding of Trade Agreements, holding of trade aft YftX fW9P? fc4M ^T f% talks at Government level, tender wrovt % *rnft v t ti'S+l % *tt*t ing for international tenders, opening *lkd|q- tiyiM % A n x fi offtces of export promotion organisa tions and efforts by our Commercial sftr % *pft qr Missions for collection and dissemina % 5fnr tt| arm tftr tion of information. The same efforts are proposed to be intensified in *mraff % ^cft * t ? zt anr? future. ^T^cTT % f^TTT 4l^ft % ^T*rr?t anqf ? (b) Statement is enclosed. 9 Oral Answers ASADHA 24, 1&99 iSAKA) Oral Answers 10
Statement AFRICA SOUTH OF SAHARA
List of countries with which toe Botswana have trade relations. Burundi SOUTH AMERICA Cameroun Canary Island Argentina Cape Verde Island Bolivia Central African Republic Brazil Chad Chile Comoro Island Columbia Congo (Braz) Costa Rica Zaire Cilba Dehomey (Benin) Dominican Republic Ethopia Ecuador Gabon El Salvador Gambia Guatemala Ghana Haiti Guinea Honduras (British) Ivory Coast Mexico Kenya Nicargua Lesotho .Panama Republic Liberia Paraguay Malawi Peru Mali Uruguay Mauritania Venezuela Mauritius American Niger Semoa SOUTH ASIA Bahamas Afghanisthan Bermuda Pakistan Barbados Nepal French West iAdies Bangla Desh Sri Lanka AFRICA NORTH OF SAHARA EAST ASIA ARE (EGYPT) Australia Sudan Burma Algeria Cambodia (Khmer Republic) Formosa Libya Fiji Morocco Hong Kong r Tunisia Indonesia Chad Japan I I Oral Answers > JULY 15, 1977 ?A Oral Answers
South Korea Togo Laos Uganda Malaysia Upper Volta New Zealand West Africa Philippines Zambia Singapore Thailand LIST OF COMMODITIES Peoples Republic of China 1. Iron Ore Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea 2. Manganese Ore Mangolia 3. Marina Products Peoples of Republic of Vietnam 4. Pearls, Precious and semi* precious stones. SOUTH AMERICA. 5. Machinery electic Guiana 6. Engineering Goods French Guyana 7. Jute Manufactures Honduras not British 8. Cashew Kernels Virgin Island 9 Fruits and Vegetables Jamaica 10. Coffee Leeward Island 11. Tea Netherland 12. Spices Antilles 13. Tobacco unmanufactured and Puerto Rico manufactured Surinam 14. Groundnut kernels, H.P.S. Trinidad and Tobago 15. Wood, lumber and cork Windward Islands 16. Mulbery silk waste ✓ 17. Mica including splittings and AFRICA SOUTH OF SAHARA waste 18. Crude Minerals Nigeria 19. Chemical element and com Mozambique pounds Mozambique Re-union 20. Dyeing tanning c and colouring materials Rwanda Saothemeet Prim'ips 21. Medical and pharmaceuticals products Senegal 22. Leather Seychelles 23. Mineral manufactures Sierra Leone 24. Metal manufactures Somalia 25. Machinery other than electric Spanish Sahara 26. Iron and steel St. Helena and Accenstin 27. Aluminium Svaziland 28. Transport Equipment Tangier 29. Travel goods, hand-bags and Tanazania similar articles I j Oral Answers ASADHA 24, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers
30. Cotton textiles and clothing machinery, jute machinery, textiles, (readymade garments) coffee, tea, spices, tobacco, ground . 4- 31. Leather manufactures and foot nut kernels; and there are so many wear things which can be exported by this country. They are all included in this 32. Handicrafts list. 33. Chemicals and allied products 34. Paper, paper board and manu «#t fita 5WT9I flTPft : 3W TCT factures ^ T , ^ «TT f% P m f ^ T ^ f T 35. Glass and glassware ^ t *TT?T ^3TT 5< R T 3 d l 36. Ores and concentrates of men- 5cRT 5TR rft *ft ganese (+ d *l S R M ih ^ h i i 37. Sandal wood 38. Shellac ^ r ft ^ T T ? 39. Oil seed cakes and meal and other vegetable oil residues * i t snfrm : wezrer aft, 40. Animal feeds *ft q*RTTti ^ ^ tr^7 41. Rubber manufactures % 5f t 5P R T 5,000 ^ r r t * 12. Scientific, optical and medical wc* ^jt ^?tt t i ^*ft ^ f*t»d^ instruments W W T eft 43. Plastic materials jftfor ^t *TTW H *TT I I fRTTY Cinematographic films 44. ^TT 3 TIT5T% 45. Perfumery and toiletteries M TTT^T ^T, tiqm 46. Sugar ^ «rr I 47. Cement 48. Fish products. sit vita 5HFT9T wnft: Jf ?t IV**i P tr ^nr % ^rnr vrr^Ft ^i-s vita SUM91 fljpft : *T5Tt vftr faR PfR ^ff % ht*t if «RTPTT ^ Pf ^rHi w T rtft *r szmR f^RTT | vftr ^ ^ I t ^ Ptid^l P+»4|| ^ ?
^TTT^r faR ^9ft^rt f+dHI «ft aifon : ^TTSTO’, H^t<5^, Prtnn e\ ^>T ftv vftT ?rtr ^t^ +nrPROF. R. K. AMIN: Irdia was f%^TT h i *TT ^ ft SJRTcT f^TT trying to have a Common Market of 3 rnniT frotr^r ft v r the Asian countries. Quite recently, some Asian countries have formed a ^t®T T#*ft tftr ^*ft % viyiT preferential bloc in order to increase r | i
gwnq tnrraor n rw : f k t t i ft 3 ‘5T^’ ^?t 5Hi«f^er^rr ^ttft, ^51^ 3 Tf#*r I 3 ft Pi^Tct jftaT | *rr ft srnrfiT ffftlT ^ 3ft ' (b) Dbes not arise. SHRI MOHAN DHARIA : 1 made it clear on so many occasions here ' (cy NoT Sir. '■ ^ ‘ ' T *9 Oral Answers JULY 15, 1977 Oral Answers 20
SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Is there any proposal to have a trade agreement with USA? nr*iiq % qpft |TT VT 3[JflT TOT ^ I SHRI MOHAN DHARIA: We shall always be happy to have trade agree ments with all the countries in the (iii) tftro? tT^r world as they are going to serve our firorrer HRt'Pa't* srreft own interest. imvr TOft | i Display of ‘Welcome to Maharashtra9 (^ + '1 sftror "HfJITTOf STT'T^T Posters at Belgaum Airport w i4m VTrTT ^ ^HT *490. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: vdR^iRsia i SHRI F. H. MOHSIN: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND ( ) ^rr CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state:
(a) whether the Karnataka Govern ( v ) ^TRTT ment has taken up the matter with the I Civil Aviation Department of his Ministry regarding display of ‘Welcome t0 Maharashtra* posters at Belgaum srk qte'O" % h p t h f t 3?re(iii) airport; t o t (iv) '?f fafoe *TfTTT^ *r (b) if so, the reaction of his Minis qfter «ft to to - sh to shr^nr try thereto; i*icid qr 5r i (c) whether any action has been j t t ^ rfr? 3r TOfw fen t o t «tt i taken against those held responsible; t o t o to ^pr, ^ t % f^T
(d) whether the town of Belgaum df*MHT^o , TOT ^T^KMo % TOfiiRT is in dispute between the two States; ?RT TOW PVT •TPTC fWT*M (*ft ^tt *nr ^ f^nr ?r ^T^ff fe r T TOT ^ gwfcnr i (^) Sr (^). 'fte ft ^ ft 1 -7 -1 9 7 7 % ^TTOTHfTOFT- t o t t ^ tt ^ i sra* *tt *ft *n^t ?t snrftiw f e n TO T | I (^■) ( * ) « , ft I T O T 5TO swfifia q ir apfW " h^KP*1 t^7 fq^lH Mlfd'O TOCT Vt iTlrdlf^d % STT^V 5TTWT fql«ia «=rXci I % farfro njf qr s r S r t ^ qrter % srfm^r srfirfw fiRrr ^rraT t * i«fn^ *rf qr ^P5T | f 5 ^ t# ^ srcftra’ * f :— % fro^r '4rfl ^tt ^ i (i) cTfwm-mrcr- ^ n t irf TfiprfTOf Jf fe ft % *hl^ VpNn^t ®FT ilH ^ *1^ I I 21 Oral Answers"'1 ASADHA 24, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers
SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I have care- *t ^rr ?rqT §*t | i ^t ^ ^ fully gone through the statement and from this I find that answers are given ?r t ^TT^sr ^rr eft j t t % ^ to those"1 questions which are not