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2 79TH ANNUAL MEETING

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4 Bay Room Grand Traverse Resort Traverse City, Michigan 5

6 Sunday, July 26, 1987

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1 NATIONAL GOVERNORS' ASSOCIATION

2 79TH ANNUAL MEETING

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6 Sunday, July 26, 1987

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1 PRO C E E DIN G S

2 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Ladies and gentlemen, I now

3 call to order the 79th annual meeting of the National

4 Governors Association. I need a motion now from my vice

5 chair, Governor Sununu, for the adoption of the rules of

6 procedure.

7 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Chairman, I move that adoption.

8 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Is there a second?

9 GOVERNOR DI PRETE: Second.

10 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Second from Governor DiPrete.

11 All in favor?

12 (Chorus of ayes.)

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

14 (No response.)

15 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: We can now begin.

16 I would like to announce at this time that any

17 governor intending to offer a motion of suspension of the

18 rules for the purpose of introducing a policy statement for

19 consideration at Tuesday'S plenary session must do so in

20 writing by close of business tomorrow. If governors have

21 substantial amendments it would be appreciated if they were

22 also made in writing. Please give copies of all suspensions

23 and all amendments to Jim Martin of our staff.

24 Before we begin our formal business, ladies and

25 gentlemen, I would like to ask, on behalf of all of the

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1 governors, if we could observe a brief moment of silence in

2 memory of the distinguished Secretary of Commerce,

3 Mr. Baldridge, who had an unfortunate accident and passed

4 away yesterday. If we could just bow our heads for a moment

5 of silence.

6 (Moment of silence.)

7 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

8 At this time I would like to announce the members

9 of the nominating committee for next year's executive

10 committee. They are Governor Moore, chairman; Governors

11 Harris, Bryan, Martin and Branstad.

12 Now I would like to calIon our distinguished

13 host, Governor Blanchard, to formally welcome us to the state

14 of Michigan.

15 Governor Blanchard.

16 (Applause.)

17 GOVERNOR BLANCHARD: Thank you very much, Governor

18 Clinton. Welcome to all of you, one and all.

19 Before I give you the official welcome, I would

20 like to indicate that another tragedy occurred yesterday here

21 when one of Michigan's finest, a state trooper of 20 years,

22 was killed right in Traverse City in a hit and run accident.

23 His name is James Boland. He leaves behind a family and I

24 would like to recommend a moment of silence in his memory and

25 sympathy and love for the family of James Boland.

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1 (Moment of silence.)

2 GOVERNOR BLANCHARD: Now I hope from this point

3 forward, on a more optimistic note and productive note, let

4 me welcome you all to the great state of Michigan.

5 Governors, their families, distinguished guests, those who

6 will be testifying and advising us on policies, friends from

7 Washington, California, Maine, friends of the news corps and

8 those who are part of the political community of America. We

9 are delighted you are here.

10 You can see, without my explanation, why we are

11 the Great Lakes state. You may not know, however, that the

12 Great Lakes represent 95 percent of the surface fresh water

13 of America. 20 percent of the surface fresh water on the

14 face of the earth. You have known of Michigan as a great

15 manufacturing state and a state with great urban centers, but

16 you probably hadn't seen this side until this weekend.

17 But there are other sides to our state as well.

18 It's a major agricultural state. It is a citadel of thriving

19 small businesses. We have more state-owned forest land than

20 any state in the nation, and more shoreline than any state in

21 the nation, except Alaska. We have great universities, great

22 institutions which serve people, and that means that we have

23 all the ingredients that you have in your states, as well.

24 The potential as well as the problems, great resources and

25 ideas and systems in leadership, but also challenges, whether

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1 it's the black child in Detroit who grows up without hope or

2 opportunity through no fault of his or her own, or the

3 challenges of education, or the laid off auto worker in

4 Flint, or the working mother in Grand Rapids, or the

5 struggling farmer in mid-Michigan or the miner in Marquette.

6 Like you, we have many faces, we have many faces.

7 But we have the resources if we work together, and

8 if we provide the kind of leadership that I am proud to say

9 the nation's 50 governors have done. Governors of both

10 parties who believe that government can be a force for good,

11 that we can innovate, that we can solve problems, that we can

12 deal with the challenges without becoming obsessed with

13 ideology. In that spirit, in that spirit, we will go forward

14 in these next few days, I am sure, to have a productive

15 session. In the meantime, I would like to give you again a

16 very special Michigan welcome. We hope you will enjoy your

17 stay and we hope you will come back real soon. Thank you.

18 (Applause. )

19 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much, Governor

20 Blanchard. In this year in which you have given me the

21 opportunity to serve as chairman of the National Governors

22 Association, I have asked all of you to work with me on

23 determining how we could do better to make America work.

24 Today we deal with one-half of the great project we have

25 undertaken together, the task force on jobs, growth and

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1 competitiveness, cochaired by Governors Dukakis, Baliles and

2 Branstad. The purpose of this work, which is embodied in

3 their report, which you have before you, was to develop

1 4 strategies and actions that state government can implement to

5 make our country more productive in the new international

6 economy, and especially to implement strategies in the

7 depressed areas of our country, which will generate more jobs

8 and more rapid economic transformation.

9 The task force talked with farmers in Iowa,

10 production workers in , scientists in New Jersey,

11 researched and analyzed the problems and the potential

12 solutions. This report indicates that there is a new

13 economic reality, with an optimism that the governors and

14 state government are doing much and can do more to lead our

15 people and our economy to new heights in the 1990s.

16 I released this report yesterday, along with

17 Governors Sununu, Governor Baliles and Governor Castle

18 speaking on behalf of the task forces, both the jobs, growth

19 and competitiveness report, and the barriers report. I am

20 pleased to see that it received prominent coverage in many of

21 the major papers in our country today. I have to tell you

22 that even though we don't have some of the interesting angles

23 of that important event, I think that what we are doing here

24 is probably more important to the future of this country than

25 what is going on in the Iran/Contra hearings. I hope all of

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1 you believe that, too.

2 We have today, to open our conference, a

3 distinguished American who believed that government and

4 business and labor could work together before it was popular

5 to believe it, who believed that America could compete and

6 win again, before it was evident to everyone else, and I want

7 to ask his governor, Governor Blanchard, to come back to the

8 platform to formally introduce to you the chairman of the

9 Chrysler Corporation, Lee Iacocca. Governor Blanchard.

10 GOVERNOR BLANCHARD: Thank you very much, Governor

11 Clinton.

12 We governors know that leadership counts. We see

13 it in state capitals, we see it in Washington, we see it in

14 the private sector, business, labor, universities, all around

15 our country. Nowhere has this been more evident than in the

16 life story of the man I am about to introduce. He needs no

17 introduction. I will tell you that he is the cochair of my

18 governors commission on jobs and economic development. He

19 is, as you know, the chairman and chief executive officer of

20 the Chrysler Corporation, a Michigan corporation. His name

21 is Lee Iacocca.

22 Lee.

23 (Applause. )

24 MR. IACOCCA: Thank you very much, Jim.

25 Congratulations on hosting this great conference here. By

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1 the way, when Blanchard talks to you this week you better

2 listen. He got 68.5 percent of the vote last year.

3 But, seriously, thanks for coming up and helping

4 us celebrate 150 years of statehood. I might say it's also

5 good to see many other friends here, Governor Jim Thompson,

6 Governor Celeste, Governor Orr, Governors Castle and

7 Ashcroft. Maybe you have noticed, but wherever I have got a

8 plant, I know the governor, and I mean very well. My good

9 friend Governor Cuomo. I not only have a plant in his state

10 but he once offered me a job as head of his transit

11 authority. I won't go into why, except that it's something

12 to do with the fact that Mussolini got the trains to run on

13 time, so why not me. It's obvious today he couldn't get the

14 planes to run on time, because he didn't make it.

15 But I am truly honored that you asked me to be

16 part of this meeting, even though I have to say I seldom work

17 on the Sabbath, but I couldn't refuse. First of all, there

18 is a very good chance that someone in this room may be a

19 future president of the United States, and I wanted a shot at

20 him early. In fact, the odds are really pretty impressive,

21 because I looked these up personally. Did you know that 16

22 governors have gone on to become president, 17 if you count

23 Taft, because he was the governor of Cuba for a while.

24 Then 35, in 35 of the 50 presidential elections we

25 have held in this country, at least one of the candidates was

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1 a governor or former governor. Now, when I looked this up I

2 thought to myself, I don't know why you people have such a

3 burning desire to trade in a good job for a lousy one, but

4 that's your business.

5 I guess the real reason, though, so many governors

6 get to be president is because being governor is a great

7 training job for the country's top CEO position. You all

8 know what it's like running a big organization, meeting a

9 payroll, trying to keep the customers happy; and, most of

10 all, you happen to know what it takes to balance a budget.

11 Every governor balances his budget, and all but one state, by

12 law, and that's Vermont, and they do so well they don't even

13 need a law, I will have to say, though, that some governors

14 seem to forget everything they learned while they were

15 governing once they get to Washington, especially the part

16 about balancing budgets. They always seem to blame it on

17 defense, of course, or the Congress. I think we are getting

18 used to the idea in the country that defense is something we

19 really need, but something we don't have to pay for. We just

20 sort of put it on the tab as we go along. As for Congress,

21 the current fashion in Washington seems to be to pretend that

22 it's just not there.

23 Something else that certain governors seem to

24 forget about when they go to Washington is competing, which

25 is ironic, because it looks like competitiveness is going to

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1 be the big issue in next year's presidential election.

2 So I want to talk about competing for a few

3 minutes today, and then and this is really a big

4 announcement -- I am going to tell you who I am going to vote

5 for in that election and why.

6 First of all, I know that I am preaching to the

7 choir here today in a way. You discovered, as governors,

8 competitiveness long before it got to be the popular buzz

9 word that it is today. Your states and the programs for a

10 long time designed to attract new industries and support old

11 ones. In fact, four of you in this room covered me for $207

12 million in loans that helped Chrysler survive a couple of

13 years ago. And, things like that, well, you never forget

14 them, naturally. But today, I see 50 states fighting, really

15 fighting for jobs. But a funny thing, I don't see that same

16 kind of fighting spirit in Washington. I see 50 subsidiaries

17 doing a decent job, but, truly, you are not getting much help

18 from the home office. And every state seems to have a

19 foreign trade policy, with missions going allover the world

20 to increase exports and attract new jobs.

21 But I have looked for a long time now, and I

22 really cannot find an American trade policy. I cannot find a

23 policy in Washington with the same determination to compete

24 in the world.

25 Maybe it's simply, because you people here are

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11 closer to the problem. You see first-hand the human

2 tragedies that come from an America that seems to be losing

3 its competitive edge. You live up close with the realities

4 of a ghetto or a mill town where the mill just closed. You

5 have to, because over and above the human suffering, your tax

6 base changes every time you shutter one of them.

7 I couldn't help but notice over the years that

8 there just aren't many idealogues in state houses, and I have

9 known a lot of you for a long time. Hell, you have got to

10 get the damn trains to run on time. But there are plenty of

11 practicing idealogues in Washington, not in Lansing, not in

12 Columbus or Springfield or the other state capitals. I don't

13 think many of you tuck yourselves in at night reading Adam

14 Smith. 18th century economic theories don't help you to

15 explain to your constituents why the local steel mill is

16 going belly up next month.

17 As governors, you have got to be pragmatic, you

18 have got to govern, you have got to solve problems and you

19 have to solve them today. Some of you really got pragmatic a

20 couple of years ago when the GM Saturn plant was up for

21 bids. Anybody in the room remember that? You fought like

22 tigers. You tried to outgun each other with free land, free

23 training programs, free roads, low cost energy, tax

24 abatements, you name it, anything it took.

25 I thought to myself, this is really strange.

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1 Nobody in Washington is fighting for American jobs, but we've

2 really got the states fighting among themselves for those

3 jobs. By the way, I have to add at the same time, I saw our

4 old labor unions resisting productivity changes in myoId

5 plants but cutting any deal, any deal it took to represent

6 employees at a new plant financed by foreign capital.

7 Well, the sad fact is that you may be competing,

8 but without a coherent national policy and without the same

9 commitment in Washington that you people have, you are

10 competing for pieces of a smaller and smaller pie. I am

11 afraid, as an American now, that one of these days you are

12 going to find yourselves fighting over crumbs.

13 Let me tell you what we are up against as a nation

14 right now. This is a quote from Oturo Harasumi. He is a

15 prominent member of the Japanese diet, and he is talking to

16 an American reporter when he says this. He says, "Japan is

17 not going to change." That's straight English, right? "We

18 love to work hard and Americans don't. The result is that we

19 will continue to work hard and amass huge surpluses of

20 money. We will buy up your land, and you will live there and

21 pay rent, but we won't go to war. We won't destroy each

22 other, but we are condemned to live together."

23 Gee, that kind of takes your breath away, doesn't

24 it? I learned early in life how to read between the lines,

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1 living hell out of me.

2 Hard working Japanese against lazy Americans,

3 America as a nation of renters leasing back our country piece

4 by piece from the Japanese landlord, the two peoples merely

5 condemned to live together as though something a little

6 higher, like mutual respect is no longer possible. Is that

7 the kind of world we are going to hand off to the kids? I

8 don't really think so.

9 Mr. Harasumi has a lot to learn about Americans if

10 he thinks that scenario will ever play out. But I can

11 understand why he thinks it's coming.

12 Look at this. You probably saw this, I hope you

13 did. This is a full-page ad that a big Japanese conglomerate

14 took out in the New York Times just a couple of months ago to

15 brag that it had just "a landmark year." "It has awed U.S.

16 industry by snapping up $1.8 billion in real estate in a

17 scant 12 months," including some buildings you know of, the

18 Arco plaza in L.A., the ABC building in Manhattan, and the

19 kicker line in here, they say "stay tuned for future

20 developments because the best is yet to come."

21 They really know how to rub a guy's nose in it. I

22 will say that for them. A lot of Japanese made a fortune

23 exporting to the United States when the yen was $2.50. Now

24 that the currency finally has flip-flopped, some are taking

25 those windfall profits at $2.50 and buying American real

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1 estate at $1.50. Why get mad, I think they got a hell of a

2 bargain both ways.

3 Well, the Japanese always talk a good line on free

4 trade, of course, but when our construction companies wanted

5 to bid on the new airport in Osaka -- you know all about that

6 the Japanese said "no, no, no, you don't understand the

7 soil conditions here." When our steam manufacturers wanted a

8 piece of the action in Japan, they were told, "no, no,

9 Japanese snow is different from American snow." Is that

10 their idea of free trade? I have got to back off here a

11 minute. I really hate to pick on the Japanese, but they give

12 us such great material to work with, I can hardly help

13 myself.

14 Well, I think we are spinning our wheels in a

15 bunch of theoretical debates, when we really need to cut

16 through all the fog and get down to the business of

17 competing. We have run up a cumulative trade deficit since

18 1980 of almost $700 billion. That is one hell of a lot IOUs

19 out there. While we have been debating, we have been losing

20 the economic war. Like anybody who does that, when you lose

21 a war, you have got reparations to pay. We only have a

22 couple of options available to pay those reparations. Think

23 of it; we could default, but I don't think that's American at

24 all. I think that's unthinkable. Maybe it's an option in

25 South America, but not here.

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1 Two, we could start the printing presses and

2 inflate the currency, and maybe hope that we inflate it

3 enough to pay back the debt at 50 cents on the dollar. That

4 cure is worse than the disease, Germany tried it in the '20s;

5 it doesn't work too well, by the way.

6 We can swap, number three, all the rous we have,

7 the paper for our land and businesses, but there's a limit to

8 that. Gee, they already own a good chunk of Hawaii and

9 southern California.

10 We could here is one for the governors we

11 could cut our wages and lower our standard of living so we

12 can undersell the competition. My economics department at

13 Chrysler, that's one guy by the way, one man guy, tells me if

14 we cut our standard of living by roughly 10 percent a year

15 for 10 years, we could probably do it that way. How would

16 you like to sell that idea to the voters? Great platform to

17 run on, huh?

18 Or, simply, we can regroup and get serious about

19 competing through a combination of greater American

20 productivity and smarter American economic policies so we can

21 start exporting more goods and services and payoff that

22 debt.

23 That's the only option we really have. r don't

24 know about you, but r think it's the only one that makes any

25 sense. We'd better, together, figure out how we do this.

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1 Let me bring back Mr. Harasumi for just a minute

2 he is the diet member who is going to rent back America to

3 us one day. He had something else to say in that same

4 interview, that I happen to agree with 100 percent.

5 He said, his quote again, "Americans have never

6 had an economic or business competitor of this magnitude.

7 This is why Americans are having a hard time with us. You

8 are unnaturally scared."

9 Hell, he is absolutely right. We are unnaturally

10 scared. But what the hell are we afraid of? Have we

11 suddenly forgotten how to compete? Have we gotten soft? The

12 American farmer, he is still the most productive in the

13 world. With all his problems, he is still the most

14 productive farmer in the world, isn't he? Come on down to

15 Detroit when you are through here and I will take you through

16 some auto plants that are as modern and efficient as anything

17 they have got in Japan or anyplace else. We still have the

18 natural resources when the chips are down. A little short on

19 oil here and there, but we have got the natural resources.

20 We have got the technology. We have got the human talent to

21 compete with anybody. What we seem to be lacking, I think,

22 is the will to compete.

23 I am not just talking here about individual will,

24 you know, the guy who wants to feather pin on the job, goof

25 off, or the guy who wants to stay home on Monday mornings to

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1 sober up. I'm not talking about him. I am talking about the

2 national will here, I am talking about national policies

3 designed to help America compete, like the national policies

4 in the countries that are cleaning our clocks right now. And

5 maybe, just maybe, the bottom of this whole lack of will is a

6 fact that we don't want to face up to the costs of

7 competing.

8 Getting competitive again is going to be

9 expensive. We won't do it with pep rallies, lapel buttons,

10 T-shirts. We won't do it that way. It is going to take one

11 hell of a lot of sacrifice.

12 Now, I have got a plan to make America competitive

13 again. But then, who doesn't? Everybody has got a plan

14 these days. It doesn't take a real genius to put one

15 together. The things we need to do aren't hard to see. They

16 are right before our our eyes. But I am afraid that what we

17 don't want to see is the cost. My plant happens to have

18 seven points, all of them simple, all of them very

19 expensive. I will go through them quickly with you.

20 Number one on my list, and it had better be number

21 one on everybody's list on this room, is to cut the federal

22 budget deficit. Is there any arguing on that one anYmore

23 with anybody in the world? Politician, businessman, union

24 leader, press. That is the root of all evil and we have got

25 to dig it out and quick. Almost a trillion and a half

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1 dollars of new federal debt in just less than 10 years, and

2 an annual interest bill alone that is pushing $190 billion

3 annually? We have got to be losing our minds in this

4 country. We went from the biggest creditor nation -- you

5 have heard this a million times to the biggest debtor

6 nation, but in just a couple of years, because we have had to

7 suck in so much foreign capital to feed this monster.

8 When we try to get the Japanese and others to mend

9 their mercantilistic ways they throw our debt right in our

10 faces and say, hey, if you didn't have such a big budget

11 deficit, you wouldn't have such a huge trade deficit. Of

12 course, they are interrelated, I think everybody has agreed

13 to that too. They are absolutely right. By the way, I have

14 got to say, even on that score, because I deal with a lot of

15 Japanese businessmen, I say you guys could help out a little

16 by sharing the burden of our defense budget. At $300 billion

17 a year for defense and yours, theirs, we don't look red hot.

18 The debate raging in Washington right now is over the last 5

19 percent, or 15 billion of the 300. Why don't we ask the

20 Japanese to help out a little? Has anybody even asked them

21 to kick in? I am not sure of that. I doubt it.

22 But how do you really fix it? Well, you can dance

23 around the truth all you want, but it will not go away. You

24 have to cut spending. Why am I telling you this? Some

25 defense and some of the entitlements out there, and you have

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1 to raise some taxes. Politicians, like yourselves, have to

2 call them revenues, I can get away with just yelling right

3 out, "raise taxes." Mondale tried that. He got his head

4 blown off. I don't think that can happen to me.

5 But that means sacrifice, that means sacrifice by

6 everybody, even for you governors, because it might mean, I

7 don't know, it might mean fewer dollars going from Washington

8 to the states. You would have to make up for it somehow.

9 Well, I am sorry about that. We all have to face the music,

10 one way or another.

11 Number two on my list is the competitive trade

12 policy. We are playing by different rules than everybody

13 else, and we can't keep this up too long. If you really

14 believe in free trade, or, I hate to say it, fair trade, we

15 should, as a country, right now, be retaliating under the

16 definition of free and fair trade.

17 Instead, even though we are the ones getting

18 mugged so badly, we are worried about the guys with the super

19 surpluses retaliating on us. Do you know these people? Do

20 you think they are crazy? This is not only their biggest

21 market, it's where all their profits are, and it's our

22 market, and they respect it. I went to Washington earlier

23 this year -- don't snow me, some of you guys; I lobbied for

24 the Gephardt amendment because I thought it was at least a

25 start. But it's been labeled so protectionist, and any

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1 red-blooded guy down in Washington would rather be called a

2 pervert rather than a protectionist, believe me, right now.

3 Hell, nobody is talking about closing the borders

4 or bringing back old Smoot-Hawley. I spent about three hours

5 one night reading about Smoot-Hawley. I'm sorry to tell you

6 the Depression started long before Smoot-Hawley, but forget

7 that. To me it's almost become a battle cry, you yell

8 Smoot-Hawley, it's like "fire" in a theater. Everybody says,

9 "God, that wrecked the country. Remember the Depression."

10 Well, to me it's a bit of a red herring that -- I have to say

11 ofttimes the New York Times and the Washington Post throw up

12 -- every time they bring up the subject of free trade, old

13 Smoot and Hawley are in the article. But we can't let the

14 American market be the dumping ground for the world's excess

15 capacity right now either. And that's what we're doing right

16 now.

17 We need a trade policy with teeth, that says to

18 our friends -- the way I talk to them, why can't you talk to

19 them that way -- "Hey, trade has to be two-way, guys, don't

20 give me any crap about soil conditions or your snow being

21 different. It's okay for you to corne and sell here, but

22 while you are in town, you damn well better be doing a little

23 shopping." But, of course, a tough trade policy, you know,

24 has got some costs, too. We will probably all pay a little

25 bit more at the store for imports. The odds are you will,

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1 and it might be tougher to control inflation, but there's no

2 free lunch.

3 Number three, if you are going to compete, you

4 have got to change the tax code. You can say, now, wait a

5 minute, we just did that last year. That was the first

6 change in the tax code in 74 years. True, but we screwed it

7 up.

8 A tax code should do three things, think about

9 it. It should be fair to everybody. It should raise enough

10 money to pay the bills, and it should, in this one world of

11 ours, now, it should help the country compete in the world.

12 We spent a whole year in tax reform and only got

13 one of the three right. I will grant the new law is a bit

14 fair. But it had to be revenue neutral, they said, going in,

15 so it didn't raise a dime against the scandalous deficit, and

16 it shifted, in case you didn't know this, about $120 billion

17 directly on to the backs of American business. So we got

18 less competitive with the change in the tax code.

19 Toyota, make no mistake about it, made out better

20 than Chrysler, and it was our bill. Everybody else writes

21 tax laws that encourage exports. Ours do nothing, nothing to

22 encourage exports. I will give you an example. I want to

23 start exporting, big deal, a few cars to Europe this fall --

24 first time in my lifetime I will be shipping the other way.

25 But guess what, I can make $11- to $1200 more per car if I

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1 ship them from my plants in Mexico or my plants in Canada,

2 instead of Michigan, Illinois, Missouri, purely from the tax

3 savings. Of course, 11- or $1200 is enough to break the

4 deal, but that's the way it is.

5 So we have to do tax reform again. This time I

6 have a strong hunch that some of those rate cuts that most of

7 us got last time -- gee, I used to be in the 90 percent

8 bracket, then went to 70, then to 50, now I am at 38.5 and

9 they are taking me to 28. I am almost saying I don't need

10 that much, slow it down a little. Part of those rate cuts

11 (Applause. )

12 MR. IACOCCA: Don't applaud too loudly. I got a

13 break but my company got hit for, I think, $106 million a

14 year more, so it wasn't fair to my business. We may lose

15 some of the rates. I don't know what will happen, but I

16 don't think it will stay the way it is. Why do I say that?

17 Part of the price of competing.

18 Point number four. We need an energy policy. We

19 had one for a while but we dropped it when OPEC guys started

20 fighting among themselves and oil prices dropped like a

21 rock. But right now we are right back in the '60s,

22 joyriding, literally joyriding on cheap gas again. We will

23 not learn from history as Americans. I don't know, I'm the

24 same way. We just will not read histories. We have already

25 been clobbered twice and we are setting ourselves up -- you

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1 can quote me on this one -- we are setting ourselves up for a

2 third fall and soon, especially when you look at some of the

3 headlines out of the Persian Gulf, it doesn't give you any

4 good feeling. The import share of our oil is higher than it

5 was just before the first oil embargo. The federal economy,

6 standards for cars, went out the window last year. We just

7 tossed them away.

8 I have got to tell you, I wish I had a lot more

9 big V-Bs because that's about all I can sell, but I make all

10 the money on those. I don't know what I am mad at. I don't

11 know how we got so blind so fast after all we've been through

12 before. The Senators standing in line at 4:00 in the

13 morning. Maybe we need another shot at that. I don't know.

14 But we cannot compete without a secure and independent energy

15 source. We have been capping our wells and the oil patch in

16 Texas and Oklahoma has been bleeding just like the Rust Belt

17 was just a couple years ago.

18 To maintain our energy independence, we have all

19 got to bleed a little. We need -- I have been saying this

20 for six years -- we need an oil import fee, or in my book,

21 better still, a gas tax, or both, so we don't get hooked on

22 foreign oil again. Between the states' and our federal

23 government's 9 cents, we are only up to about a quarter; the

24 next closest country in the world's taxes are 86 cents. In

25 Italy and France they go to $2. I don't know what is scaring

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1 us so much. I think that's another cost of competing, by the I

2 way, on oil tax.

3 Number five, we have got to gang up on the

4 corporate raiders and run them out of town. Last year more

5 money was spent on takeovers in this country than on all the

6 new plant equipment and a lot of our best management talent

7 that should have been trying to ward off the Germans and the

8 Japanese was busy warding off the raiders -- happened to a

9 lot of friends of mine. My biggest supplier, in fact, was

10 Goodyear. Goodyear escaped by the skin of their teeth by

11 taking on $2.6 billion in needless debt, and an Englishman

12 named Goldsmith, who I happen to know, walked off with a cool

13 $94 million in greenmail profit in one week's time. Not

14 bad. All that money, though, moving around, and not a dime

15 of it made either Goodyear, the company, or the country,

16 United States of America, one bit more competitive.

17 I have to say we are involved in a big acquisition

18 of our own right now, but it's not a very sexy one, because

19 there are no raiders involved -- doesn't get much press -- no

20 raiders, no greenmail, no proxy fights, no poison pills, no

21 junk bonds, no LBOs. Who wants to read about that stuff,

22 just buying the company. Our American Motors acquisition is

23 just an old-fashioned deal that will, by the way, make

24 everybody involved more competitive. We are buying the

25 company back from the French government and bringing it

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1 home.

2 But the big money lately has been made on deals,

3 deals that pull equity out of the company and load up the

4 balance sheet. We need to stop that. Of course, if you stop

5 that, there's another cost involved. All the easy money made

6 by the raiders, the arbs and the paper pushers on Wall Street

7 will have to be made, as Mr. Houseman says, the old-fashioned

8 way, by competing.

9 The sixth point of my plan -- I almost hate to

10 bring it up before this group is to -- everybody is

11 talking about it, but it's true and it's real give our

12 kids an education that equips them to compete later on.

13 Here is an irony I have never been able to

14 fathom. America still has, by far, the best graduate schools

15 in the world; Harvard, Stanford, MIT. They are the meccas

16 for the brightest students from Japan, Korea and everywhere

17 else. They come over, they study hard, then they go home and

18 beat our brains out.

19 But across town, in our own high schools, we have

20 students who can't read, can't write, can't count, and you

21 can bet on it, they can't compete.

22 Japanese kids go to school longer and they study

23 tougher subjects at an earlier age. They are not only taught

24 math and physics and other tools of a high-tech future, but

25 they are taught how to compete. Geez, they even take tests,

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1 by the way, to determine what kindergarten they get into. We

2 have got to spend more money on education if we're going to

3 catch up. We have to do a lot more than just throw money at

4 the problem, but -- we cannot duck the cost is a point I am

5 trying to make.

6 You can debate all the day in this forum whether

7 the money should come from the feds, the state or push it

8 down to the municipal governments. All I am saying is, we

9 better get our act together on that one.

10 Finally, number seven, companies such as mine have

11 to spend whatever it takes to get more productive than the

12 people overseas. There's some good news on this one, at

13 least we are at Chrysler -- Chrysler is going to spend $12.5

14 billion over the next five years on plant and product. I am

15 proud of this.

16 Our productivity at Chrysler has gone up -- are

17 you ready for this -- since 1980, 9.1 percent every year,

18 compounded. The whole manufacturing sector, by the way, has

19 chalked up productivity gains in that period since the '80s

20 started of more than 4 percent a year. That compares to

21 about half of that, 2 percent a year during the '70s. Most

22 people don't realize that. Manufacturing productivity in

23 this country has been, by those figures, a raging success.

24 But you know what the productivity gains have been

25 in the nonmanufacturing side of the house, the service

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1 sector? Zippo, zero. That's right, zero.

2 Here is the punch line: With the shrinkage in

3 manufacturing that has taken place since '80, 76 percent of

4 our whole labor force in this country is now in the service

5 sector. That's a big group, of course; not manufacturing,

6 all service. But now that 76 percent of the workforce --

7 they don't do much about our trade programs, by the way,

8 because services are a little tough to export. On the other

9 hand, the service sector is a whole lot safer place to have

10 your dough in these days because there's virtually no foreign

11 competition. Banks, by the way, being the big exception, and

12 you know the jam they are in right now.

13 The fact is, there isn't too much incentive to

14 improve productivity in any establishment because nobody from

15 Japan or Korea is breathing down your neck. We don't send

16 our laundry to the Far East, is the point I am making, yet.

17 We can't call up Swiss Air to get a run from Detroit to

18 Chicago, but New York Times, I tell them and the Wall Street

19 Journal, they can write editorials all day long telling

20 people like you and me how to handle foreign competition, but

21 being a service, they never in their lives have ever faced

22 any foreign competition in selling newspapers or ads.

23 Never.

24 Do we really want to become just a service economy

25 and maybe hide a little bit longer? Or do we want to

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1 encourage investment needed to make our heavy industry and

2 our country even more competitive? I think the answer gets

3 pretty obvious, if we are serious about competing in this

4 world.

5 Well, those are my seven simple points: cut the

6 deficit, give us a trade policy, take another stab at tax

7 reform, maintain our energy independence, run off the

8 corporate raiders, give our kids a better deal on education

9 and encourage more investment in our industrial

10 productivity. They are simple, but they are all very

11 expensive. They all mean sacrifice.

12 NOw, I will be honest. I have lost track of how

13 many people want to be President next year. There's a slew

14 of them out there. My hat's off to anybody who wants it,

15 because that poor soul is going to pay for a lot of sins over

16 the past few years. We are either going to end up in this

17 country with another Herbert Hoover or Franklin Roosevelt, I

18 don't really know which one at the moment, by the way. One

19 thing is sure, every candidate will have his or her own

20 competitiveness program. Maybe it's a five point program or

21 10 point, doesn't matter. What does matter is that they

22 level with us about the cost, and that's how I want to wind

23 up today.

24 You see, everybody is saying that we have got to

25 get more competitive, and almost nobody is willing to talk

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1 about the cost of getting competitive. As a voter, that's

2 what I am going to be listening to in the next 15 months. I

3 will listen to anybody's campaign promises as long as the

4 last line on the promise always is the same: "By the way,

5 folks, here is what it will cost you." Promise me anything

6 you want, but then tell me what the bill is going to be.

7 I will toss off as phony candidate who implies

8 that somebody else out there is going to pay the cost, and if

9 I ever hear "competitiveness is free," I am turning off my

10 hearing aid completely. I am just not going to listen. I am

11 going to assume that the candidate with the guts to talk

12 about the costs will be the right one to tackle the

13 problems. NOW, even though I am not a politician, I

14 understand how risky it can be to take that kind of message

15 out to the voters. But presidential elections are about

16 leadership, and this is going to be at least my measure of

17 leadership. We do not need anYmore blue ribbon commissions

18 to study American competitiveness. All we need is a blue

19 ribbon commitment to accept the costs of making America

20 competitive again. The candidate who asks for that

21 commitment is the one who gets my vote, so there.

22 Well, my best to all of you here today, whatever

23 your political ambitions, and thanks for having me here.

24 Thank you very much.

25 (Applause.) (Standing ovation.)

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1 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

2 Mr. Iacocca has generously agreed to answer some questions.

3 Some people wished that he were in the process of telling

4 people what the cost is. I can only say when he began his

5 talk by saying that he made the point to know the governors

6 in the states where he had plants, I sure wish he knew more

7 governors.

8 (Applause.)

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: I also couldn't help noting

10 that there was a little -- he did play fun and games with one

11 set of numbers. He said there had been 16 Presidents who

12 were governors and then a lot later in another section he

13 said there had been 35 elections in which governors were

14 involved, which means we are rating less than SO/50, not as

15 good as we had hoped. Governor Sununu has a question.

16 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Thank you very much. Thank you,

17 Mr. Iacocca, for coming to spend a little time with us. Two

18 of the industries in this country that are extremely

19 important are the auto industry and the electronics

20 industry. Frankly, they seem to be the two industries that

21 have worked the hardest to move a lot of their manufacturing

22 offshore.

23 What specifically can we do to get your plants and

24 your sister company's plants and the auto industry back here

25 and the electronics industry back in terms of assembly

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1 manufacturing within our own country?

2 MR. IACOCCA: Well, Governor, the biggest single

3 thing, I have to admit openly, has happened already. I used

4 to be a crybaby at 250, even 200 yen, but at 140 to ISO, most

5 of my problems are gone. I have a -- I give you a good

6 example of it. I have a plant with Mitsubishi where we went

7 half and half to build a car in '88. It was going to be

8 shore 60 percent, the good stuff, in Japan, and 40 percent

9 here. Since the dollar/yen changed, it has already flipped

10 to about 2/3 and 1/3 there. That change alone is making more

11 supplier jobs to build those 150,000 cars end up here. So,

12 to me, that's the biggest single thing.

13 When you get in other areas, we could still be

14 helped on tax policy, we can probably get some Rand D

15 credits. I am dismayed that the steel industry is gone. The

16 auto industry -- this is an old bias -- we plowed $40 billion

17 back since '80. We plowed them back. So we are going to be

18 there when the bell rings. We're am not worried about that.

19 I am worried that our Toland electronics industry,

20 telecommunications, the works, went into a deficit for the

21 first time about 18 months ago. I didn't think they would

22 join us that fast. So I don't know what the government can

23 do other than -- as a businessman, all you have to do is have

24 some parameters of stability. I am only talking change

25 rates. I don't demand 140, but of 150 to 175 I can live

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1 with. I deal in oil prices. My cars happen to use

2 gasoline. I can deal in a band of 80 to $1.20, but I can't

3 go from 60 to $2.

4 Interest rates, I can deal at 10 to 12 percent,

5 but I can't go to 22 like last time without dying. So all

6 government can do on a federal level on a macro look is give

7 us as much stability as they can.

8 If you are any company and can't stand a 10 to 15

9 percent drop, you should sell the company. You have to

10 weather those kinds of storms. But in '80, to '81 we dropped

11 over 50. I don't know of any business in the world that can

12 drop in two years' time 50 percent of all its revenue and

13 survive. Of course, we almost tested the thesis at Chrysler,

14 didn't we? We hung by our toenails and just barely made it

15 during that crisis. I don't know if I've answered your

16 question the long way around, Governor, but that's the only

17 way I see for maintaining a good backdrop for us to give us

18 stability as currency rates, interest rates, things of that

19 nature.

20 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: If I may follow up, is the

21 anticipation, then, that in particular in the auto industry

22 that we are going to be looking at a return on shore for some

23 of the manufacturing and assembly operation?

24 MR. IACOCCA: Yes. Somebody suggested the other

25 day in a meeting that the yen might drop to 88 to the dollar,

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1 less than 100. That might be wishful thinking, but then I'd

2 show you how to compete. Stay about 140 and you will see a

3 red-blooded competitor, because I think we're okay. We will

4 bring jobs back, yes.

5 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Then you will be calling on

6 other governors, I presume.

7 MR. IACOCCA: Right, exactly. I don't know about

8 New Hampshire, Governor, but --

9 (Laughter. )

10 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: You are right. Our unemployment

11 rate is 2.3 percent. We probably couldn't accommodate you.

12 (Laughter.)

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Gardner.

14 GOVERNOR GARDNER: You made the argument that -- I

15 am over here. You made the argument that plant and product

16 innovation is necessary to compete and if we assumed that

17 most of the workforce that will be working in the year 2000

18 is working today, that assumes a great deal of technological

19 advance and training and retraining. My question is, do you

20 think the traditional institutions of higher education are

21 capable of meeting these retraining needs?

22 MR. IACOCCA: That's a great question, because I

23 am deeply involved in it and personally involved in it. I

24 deal with Pennsylvania because I was born there and I am very

25 close to my alma mater and I deal with Governor Blanchard

ACE-FEDERAL REPORTERS, INC. 202-347-3700 Nationwide Coverage 800-336-6646 34 here in Michigan. In both those cases, we have all the university people in, when we have all the labor people in and all the banking people in, and I am there, and I see my governor and local government all together in one room.

Specifically, academia has to change their approach to life. The professors are telling the students,

"We have done this." I have talked to all these universities for a decade. We send the good Harvard business school guys into Wall Street. We send all the good technical minds into

NASA for the Defense Department. You suggest to some brilliant guy -- because the answer is the factory floor manufacturing things better, the process. The professor tells me, "You have to be crazy to get your hands dirty and go into an auto factory." First of all, they are not dirty anYmore. They're very clean, they're robotic, there are laser equipment for fits. I mean, we have really arrived.

But unless we change our whole approach early that producing goods and services is not something dirty -- we can't all be working on Star Wars. My contention always is -- Hughes, which was bought by General Motors, is a fantastic national asset.

I think they've got 23,000 scientists all working on this exotic stuff. Japan has 23,000 guys like that. They are all back home doing new instrument panels. We're beating our brains in. We won't let them do defense stuff, you see.

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1 Our real assets in brains are being pointed in you say the

2 areas of growth. I hear professors say, "don't go into a

3 factory. Are you crazy?" The auto business and steel is all

4 gone. If they keep saying that, it definitely will be

5 doomed.

6 "Well, where should I go?" Teacher says, "Go

7 where the action is; defense industries, exotic

8 electronics." And I can say for MIT -- I have been with them

9 -- I would say for Lehigh, where I am raising $40 million to

10 start an institute, campus, at the top of their campus, a new

11 school that will bear my name, by the way. I guess for $40

12 million they will do that. And it's intended to do one

13 thing, to train the businessman of the future and start with

14 the process in the factory and then also remind him that he

15 can't operate unless he gets into labor relations and

16 exchange rates and environmental protection laws, which are

17 costly. I am not against them, but it's 99 bucks a car now

18 at Chrysler; 99 bucks a car. Got to have them, price is

19 being competitive.

20 Korea, they say, "What? EPA? Are you guys

21 crazy? Just give us the jobs." It's not $1 a car over

22 there. I am not suggesting we imitate them, that's taking

23 our standard of living down. We don't want to do that. But,

24 sure, academia and their change in recognizing this problem,

25 I think, is absolutely key to all of this.

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1 I think -- we are going to try to be a prototype.

2 Give us three years and I will be able to answer your

3 question better, whether we have made it or not.

4 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Orr, Indiana.

5 GOVERNOR ORR: Mr. Chairman, thank you.

6 Mr. Iacocca, I am wondering if you would be willing to

7 entertain the addition of one more to your seven points.

8 That is a pOint which comes home to me every time I visit

9 overseas, and I was just over in the Pacific area three weeks

10 ago on Taiwan. I was banging some of them over the head

11 about some of the things you are talking about. Let's lower

12 some tariff barriers, let's get rid of some of the things

13 that are interfering with our ability to do business with

14 you.

15 This young man, who was familiar with the United

16 States of America, said, "Well, strange thing, sir, every

17 time we do lower from barriers, it's not the Americans that

18 come in and sell the products to us, it's the Japanese."

19 My point simply being something which I think most

20 of us as governors struggle with, it's important to educate

21 our children, your sixth point, so that they will be able to

22 compete when they are grown ups. But that's a generation

23 away. It seems to me it's essential that we change America's

24 attitude about our ability to sell. Competitiveness alone

25 won't do it. We have to get over in the marketplace, just as

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1 the automobile companies have so successfully done through

2 their dealer network, we have to sell. It seems to me it's

3 absolutely vital to do it in a current basis, rather than

4 waiting for the next generation.

5 MR. IACOCCA: I agree, Governor. I can give you a

6 lot of shining examples, but I won't take your time. You

7 have got to sell the hell out of the product. You've got to

8 get the cost down, get competitive. Then you have to go to

9 market, and that means -- marketing is not just running ads

10 in Japan, for example. It's financing, it's your

11 distribution system.

12 Did you know there's a barrier? You can't -- as

13 an auto dealer in Japan, you can't take on another

14 franchise. Well, I am going to buy American Motors. I think

15 I can sell a lot of Jeeps, but I can't get representation.

16 We don't have a law like that. They can come in and duel

17 with anybody under our laws. So we can't get shelf space.

18 By law, you have got to start scratch. I am only selling 18

19 Chryslers a year there. I can't get the volume to get a

20 distribution center started.

21 So I would like them to go to GAT and tell them,

22 "Those barriers have got to go, buster."

23 GOVERNOR ORR: But there are products where the

24 barriers have been lowered, but we aren't over there

25 selling.

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1 MR. IACOCCA: I agree.

2 GOVERNOR ORR: It would be an encouragement, I

3 think, to most governors who have made a conscientious effort

4 to encourage their people to sell oversees to add that eighth

5 characteristic, American salesmanship in the market.

6 MR. IACOCCA: I agree with you, Bob. I am going

7 to hear from all the governors in the Midwest now, because

8 they have taken more junkets over to these foreign spots and

9 they have been selling hard, and they could teach me a thing

10 or two. Go ahead, Thompson, I know you are going to talk.

11 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: He's not next, though. I have

12 got to keep this in order and we are running late, but I want

13 to recognize everyone who wants to be recognized, but try to

14 ask a question instead of giving a speech.

15 Governor Kean. There he is.

16 GOVERNOR KEAN: Lee, first of all, thank you what

17 you did for all of us last year in the Statue of Liberty,

18 that well known New Jersey landmark. That's what Cuomo gets

19 for not coming.

20 But one of the things which we are all trying to

21 do in the states, as you know, is really reinvent the school

22 in many ways. Businessmen help us, because every time we ask

23 them to serve on a commission or help in some way they do.

24 But talk to them privately and there's an incredible sense of

25 outrage. There's no other expression for it, outrage at what

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1 the American education system is doing and what they find it

2 is doing when they try to hire somebody.

3 Now, "outrage" to me means energy. How do we, as

4 governors, take examples -- take advantage of that kind of

5 outrage and energy so that the business people are not just

6 involved at the margins, but really involved at the guts of

7 it in trying to reinvent the school just as you really

8 reinvented the American car.

9 MR. IACOCCA: Well, I should defer to Blanchard

10 because we are working with him here in our own group here at

11 Michigan. You have got to get in early. You've got to get

12 in the grammar schools and junior high schools. We have just

13 got to have standards. What business can do is say, "Hey, if

14 you don't meet some minimum standard like, reading and

15 writing, you ain't going to make it in this country."

16 Everybody decries it's -- Michigan State

17 University turns outs a lot of teachers. They tell us the

18 problem is that some people we get in our plants -- I often

19 said in foreign plants you put up, because you have guest

20 workers, symbols, international symbols, because they don't

21 understand English. I am not being facetious, but I think we

22 have to do that in some of our American plants. They can't

23 even read the simplest words. You've got to put up a picture

24 for them. They are all supposed to be knowing the English

25 language. So, I agree with you, you can't be outraged. You

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1 have got to see what you can do early on. I think business'

2 role is not only to participate, but convince them there is

3 no future for them in any kind of a job unless they get back

4 to the ABCs.

5 I know Michigan is trying to do a lot in this

6 area. We really -- we have great graduate schools here and

7 great colleges. You know, in Japan they don't go to

8 college. They are terrific through high school and then

9 college is kind of a goof-off time for them. Then they

10 really get into work. I think it's really from grades 1

11 through 12 where all the action should be concentrated,

12 myself, not in the universities.

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Sinner.

14 GOVERNOR SINNER: Mr. Iacocca, in 1983, in

15 September, you gave a brilliant speech to the Washington

16 Press Club and I have to apologize -- I hope it wasn't

17 copyrighted, because I have distributed hundreds and hundreds

18 of copies of it.

19 MR. IACOCCA: We named a truck after you because

20 of that.

21 (Laughter. )

22 GOVERNOR SINNER: And I was there to help Jerry

23 York with that christening. That was a great show, and I am

24 grateful.

25 One of the issues that you addressed briefly in

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1 that talk was the issue of the disparity and the cost of u.s.

2 Regulation on our industries. And you cited all the ones

3 that we all know about; EPA, OSHA, Equal Opportunity,

4 retirement costs, health costs, liability costs. You went

5 through them all.

6 But you also made a point about the terrific cost

7 to industry of the disparity between states in these

8 regulations and I wondered, with all the fuss and the furor

9 that we make over states' rights, if we haven't actually

10 increased the cost tremendously on industry with 50 sets of

11 truck regulations, 50 sets of environmental regulations, and

12 on and on. Have we made any improvement or are we going

13 downhill there?

14 MR. IACOCCA: I, very honestly, don't know the

15 answer to that. I am always for having one standard in

16 anything, because even in California, even when they started

17 on emission standards, having that set of emission standards,

18 we had to have two sets of cars made and it gets costly. We

19 have to pass on those costs to the California drivers one way

20 or another.

21 If you had 50 states with evaporative emission

22 standards, which are up now -- they want to slap, EPA, $80 to

23 the cost of every car for a canister three times the size of

24 the present one. It's going to cost billions every year.

25 It's gotten into an intramural battle, by the way, between us

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1 and the oil companies because the oil companies say, "You do

2 it on the car. You want us to do it at the pump." Well,

3 it's cheaper to do it at the pump. In the long-term somebody

4 has got to pay for this.

5 So, if you start to proliferate the standards, the

6 cost just skyrockets. I am of the school that says can't we,

7 where it's meaningful certainly in the areas of -- many of

8 the areas of safety, environmental, I don't know about

9 healthcare, but even there -- one set of rules would do. But

10 I am talking as a national company. I respect states'

11 rights, but I don't want to do 50 Chryslers for 50 states,

12 it's murder. So, I don't know. I don't know more to say

13 than that.

14 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Last question to Governor

15 Thompson.

16 GOVERNOR THOMPSON: Lee, where do you draw the

17 line between warding off the greenmailers and protecting

18 shareholders and getting companies innovative again by

19 outside challenges to management? Is there some commonly

20 accepted standard that we could use to reach what you want to

21 do?

22 MR. IACOCCA: Well, I am a great believer that the

23 shareholders, their money should be protected first and

24 foremost. I happen to be of the school -- I am not turning

25 socialist, but there are other people involved when a plant

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1 shuts down. There are employees, the townspeople, the

2 citizens out there, not just the shareholders.

3 If it's a true restructuring, you are getting more

4 efficient, that's one thing. My great concern is when there

5 is a takeover, who are these stockholders? So many of them

6 are in the hands of a couple of guys that are going for the

7 ride for 72 hours. So many are in the hands of little people

8 sitting there with their computers, that one huge pension

9 fund saying, "I have to make a buck because the quarter is

10 closing."

11 If they are true shareholders, that's one thing.

12 If they are there to make 5 bucks more -- a guy once told me

13 he would sell anything for $5, his mother, but if suddenly a

14 guy came in and offered $5 a share more than the going market

15 price for Chrysler, he would dump it. I said, "Geez, an old

16 loyalty?" He said, "I represent pensions. That's my

17 fiduciary responsibility. If I didn't take the $5, I would

18 be illegal." And he suggested with me there's only one

19 answer. You know what he said? "Legislation, it's an abuse

20 that has to be tackled."

21 You know what they are going through now in the

22 banking committees, waiting periods, can't sell for a year.

23 If Goldsmith couldn't sell for eight weeks he's have taken a

24 powder. For a year, he'd have said, "NOW, wait a minute."

25 That would have tested, because he said to Goodyear, "you

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1 guys are in the wrong business. You shouldn't be in oil."

2 They have been in oil because you need seven gallons of oil

3 to make a tire. They have been in it for 50 years. He

4 forgot to do his homework. "You shouldn't be in the

5 aerospace business." They were there for 50, 60 years. He

6 said, "We have got to get back to the core of what you know

7 best, tires, and I can do that better than Goodyear

8 management can." So they went for $2.6 billion sleighride.

9 I happen to believe this, I don't like more

10 legislation, but I think in this case you need some running

11 rules. I think it's gotten out of hand. I really do.

12 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

13 (Applause. )

14 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much for a

15 terrific job. We are running late, but I know all of you

16 wanted to ask those questions, and I think they were very

17 well taken.

18 I especially appreciated the strong emphasis that

19 Mr. Iacocca put on the exchange rate issue. I have heard a

20 lot of people deny the fact that the overvalued dollar for

21 four years had a terrible impact on our trade deficit. Every

22 reasonable study I have seen indicates that it was possible

23 for more than half the growth of the trade deficit. And I

24 was happy to hear him address it.

25 Now we are going to hear from Governor Dukakis,

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1 Governor Baliles and Governor Branstad who cochaired our

2 report on jobs, growth and competitiveness, after which we

3 will have some time for some questions from the floor.

4 First, Governor Dukakis, to address the issue of

5 productive workers and labor/management relations. I would

6 like to ask the Chairman to come up to the podium, and then

7 we will take questions from the floor.

8 GOVERNOR DUKAKIS: Let me begin by thanking Bill

9 Clinton and all of you for being part of this. It was really

10 Bill's leadership which got us involved. I know I speak for

11 Jerry, Terry and myself when I say that without his

12 leadership and constant prodding we wouldn't be here with

13 this report. What we tried to do was divide it up into

14 sections. I am going to try very briefly to summarize the

15 first couple of chapters, first on the challenges and

16 opportunities of international competitiveness and then on

17 the whole question of how we help to make a productive

18 workforce and Terry and Jerry will be summarizing the rest of

19 the report.

20 I am not sure you are going to find anything here

21 that is tremendously new, that's dramatically different. We

22 have just heard from a very impressive spokesman and

23 corporate leader who has said a great deal, frankly, Bill, of

24 what is in this report. But there are some particular

25 points, emphasis, kinds of things which I think every

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2 we tried to do.

3 It was an interesting process, we had an

4 opportunity to visit some very interesting places. An

5 opportunity, incidentally, to be encouraged and inspired by

6 some of the things we saw. In rural and small town in Iowa,

7 in a steel mill in -- which these days isn't much

8 of a steel mill, but has one building in the middle of it

9 which has been cleaned up, fixed up, which has new equipment,

10 new machinery, new technology and a whole new relationship

11 between management and labor -- they are making galvanized

12 steel in that building and they are knocking the socks off

13 their Japanese competition. But it's a very different way of

14 making steel and it's a very different way of building good

15 relationships between management and labor. There is a

16 lesson in that steel plant. Terry, there is a lessen in

17 Oceola, Iowa and a lesson, Tom, in New Jersey and in those

18 parts of this country and in our basic industries that are

19 competing and are competing successfully. Some of it has to

20 do within investing, a lot of it has to do with transforming

21 human relationships, whether we are talking about community

22 relationships or relationships between those who manage and

23 those who work on the shop floor. You will find a great deal

24 of that in this report and especially stories, anecdotes,

25 examples, because in a very real sense, it's in these living

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1 examples of people and communities, companies and industries

2 that are working hard at this and succeeding at it that we

3 have the answer to how we are going to create good jobs at

4 good wages for people of this country and be competitive.

5 There have been some dramatic changes, obviously,

6 in the international economy. I hate to be monotonous. You

7 have just heard Bill and you have just heard Lee Iacocca.

8 But those trade practices that we all complain about, and

9 rightly so, the kinds of things which take up a great deal of

10 time, great deal of debate in the Congress of the United

11 States, were restrictive trade practices seven years ago, 10

12 years ago, 20 years ago. We haven't suddenly confronted,

13 over the past four or five or six years, an epidemic in

14 restrictive trade practices. I don't really believe that

15 Japanese trade practices in the '60s and '70s, Bill, were

16 much different than they were in the early and mid-80s. That

17 doesn't mean that we don't have a right to get mad if they

18 violate a microchip agreement, or when barriers to American

19 goods are thrown up or maintained as third world countries

20 become more modern and more industrial.

21 But something has happened in this country in the

22 last four or five or six years which has hurt us and hurt us

23 badly, in the face of what, to repeat, have been restrictive

24 trade practices -- have been around for a long time. You and

25 I know what it is. We have been sitting for a lot of time

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1 around this table discussing it, suggesting, recommending. I

2 remember in 1983, when, under Jim Thompson's leadership, we

3 passed a budget deficit plan, reduction plan, which I think

4 it's fair to say, if it had been adopted by the President and

5 the Congress of the United States, would have us today in a

6 much, much stronger position, financially.

7 Unfortunately, they didn't listen to us, here we

8 are. There is no question in my mind, and I think in the

9 minds of most of the people who we talked with and listened

10 to in preparing this report, that this is largely a

11 government made disaster. That isn't my phrase, it's Pat

12 Moynihan's phrase on the floor of the Senate when they were

13 debating the trade bill. This is largely a government-made

14 disaster.

15 When you run up a $220 billion deficit, when you

16 drive the value of the dollar through the roof, when you, in

17 effect, give every single foreign good a 50 percent discount,

18 and that's what we did, or conversely, impose a 50 percent

19 export tax on American goods, we shouldn't be surprised if

20 what has happened has happened.

21 Now, it is true, as Lee Iacocca just said, that

22 now that that is changing and the value of the dollar is

23 dropping, that we are not going to see some of those things

24 happening quite as much.

25 In the meantime, we have destroyed American

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1 markets, we have seriously damaged American industry, and

2 it's not an argument against doing all of the things that we

3 suggest we should do at the federal and state level. But it

4 is simply a recognition, once again, that you can't spend a

5 buck for every 78 cents you're taking in and not do serious

6 damage to your competitive position, serious damage to your

7 productivity, serious damage to your farmers and to American

8 industry. And this wasn't their fault, this was a public

9 failure. It was a government failure. It was a failure of

10 public pOlicy.

11 So, in dealing with the issue of jobs and growth

12 and competitiveness, quite obviously, the report talks at

13 length about federal deficit and its impact about those trade

14 relationships and equity and fairness in those relationships

15 -- and there must be some -- about economic disparities

16 across states and regions, which can be minimized so that all

17 Americans share in our economy. That is why we recommend

18 some very specific focused regional development strategies.

19 It's terrific for John Sununu and me to be able to

20 get up here and say that we have record low unemployment

21 rates and I am proud of the fact that one out of every 10 New

22 Hampshire residents works in Massachusetts and we are

23 providing that kind of employment for John's people so he can

24 make those statements. But the fact of the matter is there

25 are whole regions of this country which are hurting and

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1 hurting badly. You know where they are because many of you

2 have to struggle with those problems. So we do recommend

3 some very specific things to deal with the problems of the

4 iron range, Rudy, and Minnesota and the heartland and south

5 Texas and so many places that are hurting badly, need help,

6 need resources, in partnership with states, communities,

7 business, labor, the educational community, because it is

8 those partnerships in the last analysis, as all of us have

9 learned, which really are going to make a difference.

10 The second chapter in this report has to do with a

11 productive workforce. Here, again, Bill, the governors have

12 been deeply into this for some time. "Time for results," in

13 my judgment, was one of the great achievements of this

14 organization; one of the great achievements of this

15 organization. We are very grateful to you, Tom, for

16 maintaining and expanding on that and providing the kind of

17 leadership you have. We are all working very hard. We all

18 learned from that report.

19 I don't know where Lamar Alexander is right now,

20 but he, himself, deserves a bouquet for his leadership in

21 helping us to see how important it was for us to invest in

22 quality education at all levels. Improving the productivity

23 of the current workforce. You have heard from Lee Iacocca

24 how dramatic those improvements have been in the

25 manufacturing sector and they are and they have been.

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1 People talk about manufacturing employment

2 dropping in this country. But the percentage of GNP in this

3 country going to manufacturing is staying about the same.

4 That has to tell you something. It tells you we are making

5 more manufactured goods with your people and that, whether we

6 like it or not, is what productivity oftentimes is all

7 about. The question is, how do we take advantage of that,

8 how do we make that transition. And how do we deal with some

9 of the consequences when that happens?

10 The efficiency of our labor markets. I think I am

11 correct in saying that 70 to 75, maybe 80 percent, of the new

12 people entering the workforce in this country between now and

13 the year 2000 will be either women or minorities, in some

14 cases, both. That is something to think about.

15 How do we help to train those workers? How do we

16 do what we discussed just a few minutes ago at the executive

17 committee, in talking with Senator Moynihan and Congressman

18 DOwny about welfare reform? How do we make it possible for

19 hundreds of thousands of people in this country that aren't

20 part of the world of work, haven't been part of the world of

21 the work, to get the skills, get the support for themselves

22 and their kids that would make it possible for them to

23 support them and become productive and self-sufficient?

24 How do we improve the relationship between

25 management and labor, the kind of thing that has meant

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1 success for that new unit within that steel mill in

2 Cleveland? How do we increase the quantity and quality of

3 scientists and engineers? And how do we deal with the fact,

4 as Lee Iacocca just pointed out, that investing in defense,

5 as we must, we are taking scientists and engineers from

6 nondefense activities; and, if we think we have to do that,

7 and we must, we better start making some investments in the

8 training of additional scientists and engineers to deal with

9 nondefense activities as well.

10 Finally, Bob, we talk about understanding the

11 international marketplace. What does it take to sell? How

12 do you sell?

13 You fellows may be making some trips to the

14 Pacific from time to time. I suspect they are very valuable

15 for you. I think one of the things that you have discovered,

16 as I have discovered, is that, at least until recently,

17 countries like the Japanese are outselling us, outhustling

18 us. We all know about the 10,000 Japanese salesman in this

19 country, all of whom speak English and what, 500 Americans

20 until recently who could possibly speak Japanese in Japan.

21 That isn't selling. That isn't going out and marketing.

22 That isn't doing the kinds of things that we have to do.

23 Those are some of the issues that we address in

24 the first two chapters of this report; again, things many of

25 us have been working on, things many of us have been

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1 collaborating in, as John says, constructively plagiarizing !I 2 as we do all the time because we learn from each other. But

3 we hope in offering this report to you that it will be

4 helpful, will give you ideas, will give you examples of

5 successful partnerships that are taking place in virtually

6 everyone of the 50 states. Again, we are very grateful to

7 you, Bill, for keeping us on track, keeping us moving. And

8 we hope very much that this report will be valuable, too. Is

9 it Jerry or Terry?

10 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: I think Governor Baliles is

11 next to discuss international education, research and

12 development and technology. I want to thank Governor Dukakis

13 for those fine remarks and also, at least, to abuse the chair

14 a moment, to associate myself with the point he made that

15 while we shouldn't countenance restrictive trade practices,

16 neither can we blame our present predicament primarily on

17 them and I appreciate you making that point.

18 Governor Baliles.

19 GOVERNOR BALILES: First, let me tell you what

20 this report does not do. This report offers no quick fix,

21 ideologically driven solutions, panaceas or get-happy-fast

22 formulas.

23 Rather, this report talks in sensible terms about

24 real problems which must be addressed at the ground level.

25 This report is about jobs; how states are helping to create

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1 them, what states are doing to keep them and what states do

2 when they lose them. So I am honored to participate in the

3 delivery of this task force report, and I am going to do it

4 in about 10 minutes, or about the time it takes Lee Iacocca

5 to sell a dozen cars.

6 Ladies and gentlemen, the states have confronted

7 administrative impasse with innovation and economic

8 difficulty with determination. The task force report tells

9 the story. History instruct us, unambiguously and

10 unequivocally, that economic strength follows efficient

11 travel and transportation. States know that without an

12 ability to efficiently travel and transport, without highly

13 developed skills of communication and understanding and

14 without the desire to economically move past the provincial

15 to the global, our economic aspirations will remain beyond

16 our reach.

17 The history of this very region tells us as much.

18 Here, in the heart of a continent, a maritime world was

19 built. Five inland seas which hold a fifth of the earth's

20 fresh surface water. In the early 1600s, the French

21 penetrated this forested country and began turning natural

22 resources into economic strength. Yet, real economic

23 progress would await the effects of transportation

24 improvements in the early 19th century.

25 In fact, the laying of adequate infrastructure

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1 enabled Michigan to grow faster than any other territory or

2 state in the 1830s. Similarly, across the continent,

3 commerce followed roads, rails and waterways.

4 Yet today, in many of our states, we witness and

5 endure an increasing morass of crammed, inefficient, urban

6 and suburban highways and crowded, unreliable national

7 airways. We watch as our productivity declines from the

8 simple inability to quickly move our people to work in their

9 products to market.

10 Accordingly, the task force recommends a variety

11 of initiatives to improve local access to public works

12 financing, to provide new technology for infrastructure

13 investment, to develop quick response mechanisms for

14 accelerating projects and to secure interstate cooperation on

15 strategic regional projects.

16 In short, it's critical that we establish new

17 avenues to action to insure that the future is not

18 compromised by an inability to move our people in their

19 enterprise.

20 Likewise, our intellectual infrastructure must

21 consistently reflect the realities of world commerce and

22 political competition. In the past, Americans possessed a

23 unique ability to work together and to use the advantage of

24 cultural diversity.

25 We understood the world because we were the

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1 world. In 1910, for example, when less than 15 percent of

2 the U.S. population was foreign born, almost 1/3 of the

3 residents in the northern Great Lakes region had been born

4 abroad. We grew as a nation of many lands, where every

5 citizen had an immigrant for an ancestor. Yet we lost our

6 sense of the world. To almost 3/4 of high school juniors and

7 seniors, geography is a black hole.

8 They can neither identify the states nor make

9 informed guesses as to whether Ireland is to the east or west

10 of England, but which country lies south of Texas. In one

11 study, only two students could locate Chicago. A junior at

12 UCLA opined that Toronto must be in Italy. A prelaw student

13 put the nation's capital in the state of Washington. "How,"

14 one student asked, "could Latin be called a dead language,

15 when there are millions of people living in Latin America?"

16 We pay a political and economic price for our

17 inability to understand and communicate with our global

18 neighbors. Knowing the language of trade is to be able to

19 communicate with the buyers and sellers of the world.

20 Knowing the geography of other nations is to appreciate the

21 basis of other economies. In a sense, we urge the

22 acquisition of a heightened sensitivity and an appreciation

23 of the diversity of the people of our planet. The task force

24 concludes that if we are to benefit from global

25 interdependence, members of our current workforce must

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1 understand the world around them. Accordingly, as the

2 principal providers of education in the nation, states must

3 invest in and internationalize their schools. Our economy

4 rests upon, it depends upon our physical and intellectual

5 foundations. And when deterioration sets in, states must

6 act.

7 But investing transportation and education is not

8 enough. We must not stop there. To the contrary, the task

9 force report catalogs innovations and collective action,

10 efforts of the 50 states that are taking across -- taking

11 shape across the country to shape the future, rather than be

12 shaped by it. Whoever may ask of today's challenges, "Well,

13 yes, but what can we do about them," here is an answer: Read

14 the report.

15 The task force reports detailed ground floor

16 responses created by states and tested by experience. Here

17 is some of what the report says: "To make our workers more

18 productive, we must build bridges between classrooms and

19 marketplaces to establish a flexible, adaptable workforce

20 with programs similar to those in Georgia and Indiana. We

21 must increase the quantity and quality of our scientists and

22 engineers. In fact, we must increase the number of students

23 in these fields by 50 percent, as a program is seeking to do

24 in South Carolina. We must balance training programs between

25 long-term investments in education, which is critical for

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1 future productivity, and short-term market driven

2 requirements for retraining, which is necessary for current

3 productivity, just as is being done in Missouri, Florida and

4 Delaware."

5 But what about where the workers work? What can

6 states do? This report tells you, "States can encourage

7 development in the application of new technology. States can

8 promote more productive employer-employee relationships.

9 States can help identify new markets for exports. States can

10 help with financial assistance in leverage capital."

11 How do we do these things? The task force report

12 tells us how. We do it by making work places more efficient,

13 by stimulating technology development with links between

14 businesses and universities to upgrade research and

15 development, as is being done in North Dakota, North Carolina

16 and Virginia, by increasing the rate of technology

17 transferred through incubators and centers for applied

18 technology so that America, not others, capitalize on our own

19 inventions we can do it with programs such as those found

20 in Michigan and West Virginia -- by promoting state exports,

21 so that the 200,000 American companies with export potential

22 are encouraged to find overseas buyers. And we do it by

23 finding new markets and expanding old ones, just as it is

24 being done in state after state across America.

25 We can make work places more efficient by

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1 establishing financial and technical services with small

2 business financing, with direct and indirect programs, as is

3 being done in Illinois, Pennsylvania and Ohio. States are

4 taking these actions, and we know we can do more. We know

5 that our task is to come to terms with today's complex,

6 integrated world along with other cultures, other ideologies

7 and other economic systems. The task force report says that

8 the ground work must be laid now, not with the false promise

9 of instant redemption, but with the understanding that our

10 efforts must be crafted across generations.

11 Further, we believe that states are uniquely

12 qualified, politically and administratively, to provide the

13 leadership and the direction. Louis Brandeis once

14 characterized a constitutional arrangement between national

15 and state governments as vibrations of power. Now is the

16 time to use that power, not as a source of division and

17 indecisiveness, but as the genesis for the future of

18 America. The task force report is a functioning document, a

19 centralized clearinghouse of good ideas and working

20 programs. This report and its supporting documents will be

21 taken back home by governors and used, not as a plan for

22 study, but as a plan for action.

23 A few years ago, the National Governors

24 Association did the same thing for education, and it's made a

25 difference. Our schools are better. We believe that this

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1 report will make the difference as well. We must push the

2 states forward. We must push the outside of the envelope, as

3 Chuck Yeager likes to say, so that our people and their

4 enterprise are made stronger and brought faster to the

5 economic future that they desire and deserve. This report

6 underscores what Governor Clinton has said so well for all of

7 us; we must make America work. Thank you.

8 (Applause.)

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much for that

10 excellent statement and for your fine work, Governor

11 Baliles.

12 Governor Branstad.

13 GOVERNOR BRANSTAD: Governor Clinton, thank you

14 very much. I want to thank my colleagues who served as

15 cochairs on this task force on jobs, growth and

16 competitiveness. I want to especially acknowledge our

17 chairman, , who really gave us the leadership,

18 the insight and the devotion to really pursue this task force

19 and to give you the report that we are presenting today.

20 Also, as you know, we had the opportunity to host one of

21 these meetings in the state of Iowa, and Mike Dukakis was one

22 of those who came, along with Governors Clinton, Mickelson

23 and Sinner. Mike liked it so well, he has come back several

24 times since.

25 Bill, on the other hand, has decided that he would

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1 rather stay in Arkansas, at least for the present time. But

2 we appreciate all of your visits and your commitments to this

3 very important task.

4 The health of our economy depends upon the health

5 of our individual communities in both rural and urban

6 America. It is our communities from which we draw our

7 strengths. They provide the basic social and economic fabric

8 of this nation. Just as our nation draws on the strength of

9 our states, we, as states, draw on the vitality of the

10 individual communities that make up our states. Yet, we are

11 witnessing in this country today an increasing disparity

12 between the health of some communities and the sickness of

13 others.

14 We have what some have called a bicoastal

15 economy. The coasts are doing very well economically. Yet,

16 the great middle struggles to recover from a prolonged

17 economic downturn. And we see the disparities within our

18 individual states, with regions and communities doing well

19 and seeing significant growth contrasted with areas of great

20 poverty.

21 We see it across the land, with urban areas Cdoing

22 generally well and being areas of significant growth and

23 leaving rural areas in the dust.

24 Indeed, rural areas and communities, whether they

25 be in places like Iowa, Oregon, Texas or West virginia, has

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1 suffered more during this decade as a result of uneven

2 economic growth. Consider these facts: But migration of

3 people from rural areas to urban areas in the years 1985 and

4 1986 was larger than during any similar period in the

5 previous three decades. Three times as many new jobs were

6 created in metropolitan America than in rural America during

7 this period. Per capita, personal income in rural areas, 25

8 percent less than metropolitan areas.

9 Incidentally, that is in stark contrast to Japan,

10 where it is just the opposite and rural areas have 40 percent

11 higher personal income than they do in urban areas, and where

12 they subsidize agriculture to the extent of $40 billion a

13 year.

14 In the 1960s and '70s, the nation's focus was on

15 urban blight and the need to target resources to our cities

16 and to our inner cities. In the 1980s and the '90s, many of

17 these urban areas have become centers of renaissance and

18 redevelopment and growth in our country. Yet it is our rural

19 areas that need to be targeted for assistance and help during

20 this time.

21 What can we do about it? In many respects, many

22 of our communities are facing the same problems that Lee

23 Iacocca had when he took over in Chrysler in 1978. Chrysler

24 needed strong leadership, adequate financing, a working

25 partnership between the government and a commitment to be

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1 competitive to survive.

2 Our communities need the same prescription for

3 success. In our task force hearings, it became apparent that

4 we have some communities that have demonstrated their ability

5 to succeed even against the odds. We found out, for example,

6 despite adverse economic conditions in the rural heartland,

7 communities like Oceola, Iowa or Cuba, Missouri were building

8 strong economies for the future. Drawing from those

9 experiences and from the report, we have a five-point plan

10 that is offered for state assistance to help with these

11 communities and to develop their leadership.

12 First, the states need to have a rural development

13 strategy to deal with these pockets of poverty and problems

14 in rural America, a strategy based on economic

15 diversification so the communities are not so dependent on

16 one industry like agriculture, forestry or mining. We need

17 to be providing transitional services and targeted

18 infrastructure investments.

19 Second, investing in both development of our human

20 resources and physical capital is critical. Quality

21 education programs and public services are essential to

22 economic success.

23 Additionally, selected infrastructure improvements

24 with a goal of stimulating the economic growth is an

25 important factor. New telecommunications technologies can

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1 link up rural America, in this information age, to the other

2 parts of the country.

3 Third, entrepreneurial development must be

4 encouraged and supported. A recent study of the Council on

5 State Planning and Policy Agencies looked at rural Iowa in

6 the decade of the 1980s during this period of agricultural

7 crisis. They found some interesting things.

8 Despite the loss of jobs related to farm machinery

9 manufacturing and related to agriculture, there had been

10 108,000 new jobs created; and, 20,000 new business ventures

11 started right in the midst of these agricultural troubles in

12 rural America.

13 As states, we need to recognize there is this

14 wealth of entrepreneurialship. We need to capitalize on it

15 and use it and use the technological and financial assistance

16 programs that we can provide to encourage and assist the

17 entrepreneurial development and growth. Increasing emphasis

18 needs to be placed to the development of new businesses

19 within our states and our communities.

20 The fourth point, access to financing new economic

21 initiatives is vital for success. Both state and federal

22 assistance is needed to attract financial investments,

23 especially to rural America. When the banks have been hurt

24 by major losses in farm loans, it's hard to get them to make

25 the loans, even though there are great opportunities there.

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1 Banks and other financial institutions need the

2 funding sources that will motivate them to reinvest in rural

3 America. They need to be able and willing. We need to make

4 sure that they take advantage of a willing and able

5 workforce, a spirit of individual initiative and a high

6 quality of life that exists in so many of these communities.

7 Finally, and I think this is crucial -- and we saw it in

8 Oceola, Iowa and you have seen it in communities in your

9 states -- local leadership is critical.

10 As governors, we need to do everything we can to

11 promote it, to stimulate it, to nurture it, and we can't do

12 it by ourselves. We have got to do what we can to generate

13 that at the local level. One characteristic that runs

14 throughout the successful rural communities is that they have

15 aggressive and visionary local leaders who have taken it upon

16 themselves to do something for themselves and for their

17 communities.

18 In Iowa, we recently initiated a program to try to

19 take the star players, the Oceolas and the Mount Pleasants

20 and those leaders, out to talk to the other communities that

21 aren't doing as well. We call it the STEP program, Shaping

22 Tomorrow's Economic Progress. As a part of this program, we

23 are setting up town meetings in communities across the state

24 where the successful communities can go and visit with the

25 leaders in the other communities and say what they went

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1 through and the experiences they had and how they were

2 successful in helping with the diversification of their local

3 community, how they used a local commitment, how they built

4 the partnerships and how they developed the public and

5 private leadership that made it a success.

6 We have certainly seen what has happened in New

7 England. That is beginning to happen in some of the rural

8 areas of this country as well, and we need to tap on to

9 that.

10 Each community will then organize its own

11 development team to assess its strengths and weaknesses and

12 to develop a plan and to aggressively pursue their

13 initiative.

14 I hope that we can designate each of those areas

15 as an enterprise zone so they can get state incentives to

16 match their local initiative.

17 I During the course of this project, our task force

18 devoted most of its efforts to state actions and to the

19 accomplishments that we have seen in economic development at

20 the state and local level. We deliberately avoided going

21 into great detail about actions that could occur at the

22 federal level. But it would be remiss in our

23 responsibilities as a task force if we did not address that,

24 so in my closing remarks here, I want to talk a little bit

25 about what the federal government can do to help us.

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1 States do not operate in a vacuum. We are all

2 part of a great federal system. Our programs, our work, our

3 plants, our daily lives, are influenced by federal policies.

4 We certainly heard that in such things as the value of the

5 dollar versus the yen. In our approach, we did identify four

6 broad areas where federal action is imperative.

7 First and foremost, a stable federal economic

8 environment and reducing the federal deficit. We all agree

9 on that. We also need to encourage more private savings to

10 promote a stable international and financial framework that

11 contributes to fair trade and to high productivity and

12 growth. The debt in less developed nations must be better

13 managed. The federal government can playa role in getting

14 that accomplished.

15 Combined monetary and fiscal policies with our

16 major trading partners is very important. Establishing a

17 more equitable trade relationship and reviewing export

18 policies and export licensing procedures, broadening the

19 scope of the GAT agreement, all need to be pursued. We need

20 to provide for an effective rational targeting of flexible

21 state programs. To the final point that I want to brief you

22 on, and that is the governors are calling for a more

23 effective federal/state partnership, a partnership that will

24 help build that national competitiveness to minimize the

25 economic disparities to help us all work together to be

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1 competitive in a world economy.

2 We need to create a flexible and responsive

3 employment system. That means looking at some of the

4 national programs, like employment service, the unemployment

5 insurance program, the job training and vocational education

6 programs, and not looking at them separately, but look at

7 them together and see how they could be adopted -- adapted to

8 become more responsive, so that we don't just merely cope

9 with the misery of the disparities and the problems, but we

10 use these programs in a creative way to train people to

11 become more competitive for the jobs of the future.

12 The federal/state partnership needs to be

13 redefined. The states are assuming new roles and

14 responsibilities. We are becoming more aggressive. We need

15 the flexibility to be responsive to today's needs.

16 Much can be done. However, often separate actions

17 and programs from the federal government conflict with each

18 other. We need to be competitive in the international

19 environment and we need to make sure that one hand of the

20 government knows what the other hand is doing so that we

21 don't have the intolerable duplication or the poor

22 coordination of programs where they could make a difference.

23 It is time that the federal and state governments pull

24 together and that we target our resources, we reevaluate our

25 present relationship and we make a new partnership between

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I the two levels of government.

2 So, Mr. Chairman, with that, I am pleased to close

3 this report to say that our focus is on economic growth in

4 all parts of this nation. Our goal is to make all of America

5 work, and our commitment is to focus the resources of this

6 nation to make us competitive again in a global economy.

7 Thank you very much.

8 (Applause.)

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much, Governor

10 Branstad, for that fine statement. We now have a few

11 questions, beginning with Governor Martinez.

12 GOVERNOR MARTINEZ: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I

13 think all the subchairmans did an excellent job in presenting

14 the document. I know that before us lies a great challenge

15 in terms of how to expand the economy to absorb the newly

16 trained people that we hope to put into the labor market.

17 I know that we have heard some great speakers here

18 today, including Lee Iacocca, and our ability to compete in

19 terms of creating jobs here.

20 I, for one, would like to join with all governors

21 to make sure that our national government sets the proper

22 policy to expand jobs so that our road is not simply to

23 relocate jobs; that my mission, out of Florida, would be not

24 simply to take a company from another state, but to truly

25 expand the economy to create the opportunity for all those

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1 that I think this fine document will educate and train for

2 the future of this country. So that I think we are good

3 partners, but I think the partnership we need at this moment,

4 the strongest partnership, is the federal government.

5 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much. I think

6 Governor Harris has a statement or a question.

7 GOVERNOR HARRIS: Mr. Chairman, I would like to

8 take this opportunity to commend you and these three

9 cochairmen that have work so hard with members of the task

10 force in compiling the report. It's an excellent report

11 which gives us tremendous insight into our current economic

12 conditions of our states and also outlines the ways that we

13 as governors can respond to the many challenges that face us

14 in our state that need attention, such as jobs and growth and

15 competitiveness and also the four-step framework for economic

16 competition. What the report sets forth is, I think, an

17 excellent and sound approach for revitalizing our states'

18 economies and moving us forward as a nation.

19 I can say, with a lot of appreciation, that we

20 have already tried a number of the recommendations that have

21 been made in our state of Georgia from education, to our

22 quick-start special training program, the aggressive

23 industrial recruitment we have had and the market development

24 programs that have been recommended in this report, and it

25 has been effective for Georgia. The working relationship

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1 that we have established with the local governments and the

2 team spirit that has presented itself from that relationship

3 has certainly enhanced our capabilities.

4 So I would like to just calIon each one of the

5 governors that are here today to join with me in giving you

6 and these three cochairmen and the members of this task force

7 a hand of appreciation. Would you join with me at this

8 time.

9 (Applause.)

10 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much. We have

11 to hear now from Governor Ashcroft. Are there any further

12 questions or comments that anyone wants to make at this

13 time?

14 Governor Orr.

15 GOVERNOR ORR: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am

16 sitting where I don't belong, but in a sense, I am sitting

17 here by Lee Iacocca's sign. I wanted to reaffirm what I had

18 suggested to him, sort of in the form of a question. You

19 took me a bit to task for making a statement rather than a

20 question, Mr. Chairman.

21 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: I agreed with you, though.

22 GOVERNOR ORR: This report that has been put

23 together here, we have heard from this afternoon, is a true

24 achievement for the governors, in my opinion. It is setting

25 a course of action for all of us to observe as we move into

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1 the future. But, more particularly, it is dealing with a

2 future that is beyond tomorrow, especially with education.

3 That is not going to have its effect until some time well off

4 into the future.

5 I most strongly believe that we have a major

6 undertaking in each of the 50 states to cause our business

7 community, to cause our people, to understand what is

8 happening in the world; and, therefore, what they need to do

9 to hustle business. I am not sure exactly how to approach

10 it, except that it seems to me very important indeed that we

11 carry forward with what has been found in this report and

12 what has been made evident to us as a result of the report.

13 I believe that the most important thing we need to do in the

14 next two or three years is to awaken America's attitude

15 towards doing business in the rest of the world.

16 We have been fortunate, over a period of the last

17 200 years, not to have to go elsewhere to get business. We

18 have been enjoying doing it within our borders. We could

19 enjoy doing it on a basis where we are selling to each

20 other. And very few of our more enterprising companies have

21 gone abroad and sold their product.

22 But the point I was trying to make of the young

23 man who spoke to me in Taiwan was that in response to what

24 America has asked us to do in lowering tariff barriers and

25 things of that kind, it's not Americans that come in and sell

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1 I with products to us, it's the Japanese who do so. We are I 2 being beaten out because the attitude of America about

3 hustling business is, unfortunately, confined mostly to our

4 domestic economy rather than to the international world. I

5 would like to suggest that a thing we ought to be doing in

6 the future is to work on what we have been found in this

7 report, but to bring some of that to the current period and

8 doing what we can do as governors to encourage a quicker

9 response to the opportunities that are now becoming so

10 evident throughout the world.

11 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you. Anyone else? I

12 would like to pOint out that tomorrow there will be several

13 opportunities to follow up on and flesh out this report. And

14 for the benefit, not only of the governors, but others here,

15 will be speaking at the governors

16 workshop on rural development that Governor Branstad will

17 chair in the morning. Governor Dukakis's committee will

18 feature a very important session on responsive communities,

19 including the mayor of New Haven. The committee on trade and

20 international relations, which Governor Blailes chair, will

21 have a big focus on Governor Orr's subject of a moment ago,

22 exports of governors' secret weapon.

23 Then at 10:15, we will have a special work session

24 on this report, which we will be able to hear from the

25 private sector; from business, from labor, from the

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1 scientific community, about the importance of this report and I

2 'its relevance to the future.

3 So I think we will have a very good day tomorrow

1 4 working on this. We are going to talk about worker

5 adjustments and a number of other things in the other

6 committees.

7 Before we adjourn, I have to calIon Governor

8 Ashcroft, who was the cochair or the chairman of our task

9 force on literacy which is part of the various projects. He

10 will not be able to be here on Tuesday, unfortunately, and

11 therefore has asked for a few minutes to be heard today.

12 I want all the governors who are here who weren't

13 on that task force to know I think that he did a terrific job

14 on the report. I would hope that all of you would sit here

15 just a few more minutes and listen to what he has to say,

16 because he won't be able to be with us on Tuesday.

17 Governor Ashcroft.

18 GOVERNOR ASHCROFT: Thank you, Chairman Clinton.

19 I want to thank you for letting me give the report early. I

20 will trying to make it very quick.

21 None of us would expect a team that was playing a

22 player short to be able to be successful in the competition.

23 If we allow people who can't read or write to continue to be

24 on our team, or if we continue to carry them without those

25 skills, they can't play effectively. We simply must have all

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1 the members of our team in our productive capacity and with

2 that capability of helping contribute to what we want to do.

3 Illiteracy is one of the most imposing barriers to

4 participation in our society, to joining the productive

5 engine or community we call America.

6 Today, over 20 million Americans can't read or

7 write above the fourth grade level. Another 30 million can't

8 read or right above the 8th grade level. By the year 2000,

9 well, six out of every seven jobs, almost 90 percent of the

10 jobs, will require more than a high school education in order

11 to do successfully.

12 If we are going to be competitive, we are going to

13 be productive in the years ahead. We are going to have to

14 have even higher levels of skill than we now have. We simply

15 face a major challenge in terms of literacy.

16 Our task force took very seriously your charge to

17 be action-oriented rather than merely study-focused. We have

18 worked very closely with Capital Cities, ABC, the Public

19 Broadcasting Service and their highly successful PLUS

20 project; Project Literacy, U.S. With the National Alliance of

21 Business, who have benefited from the work of the U.S.

22 Department of Education's adult literacy initiative. The

23 National Assessment of Education Progress has published solid

24 information on literacy skills of America's young adults.

25 The task force met twice, once to take expert testimony, a

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1 second time to convene with the education commission of the

2 states with ABC, with PBS; a national literacy summit. I

3 think both of those meetings were helpful. The summit was

4 the first of its kind of event on this topic. There were a

5 number of people there from private as well as public

6 agencies in the literacy movement. And we worked on building

7 partnerships for a literate America. We made a good start.

8 We plan to follow up on that meeting with another literacy

9 summit in the months to come.

10 Literacy task force also worked closely with one

11 of NGA's affiliated groups, the Council of State Policy and

12 Planning Agencies. The first week of June, CSPA sponsored a

13 state policy academy on increasing literacy for jobs and

14 productivity. Academy attendees came from 10 states to learn

15 how to develop and improve state literacy policies related to

16 its work on the policy academy and with input from our task

17 force. There was a state policy guide for literacy, which is

18 on the table before each of the governors today. I recommend

19 it to you; it's important. Each of you can find ways to

20 improve our approach to the problem of illiteracy.

21 The formal report of our task force recognizes

22 that governors want to shape an environment in which citizens

23 can prosper and participate. Successful state strategy will

24 encourage, I believe, every ablebodied person in our society

25 to be a part of the team, to have the skills necessary to be

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1 productive workers in a competitive universe, in a global

2 circumstance of competition. I think we can help develop a

3 set of strategies -- we might call these strategies a line up

4 for literacy -- that can help our citizens improve their

5 basic skills. The task force has identified seven major

6 components of what we would call an effective state literacy

7 strategy. More detail will be given about these on Tuesday,

8 but I want to share some of the broad, quick outlines.

9 First, we need to focus on the needs of adult

10 learners. We are doing a lot in education to try to prevent

11 illiteracy. This task force focused on the intervention; how

12 do we correct illiteracy?

13 Second, find ways to enhance literacy training in

14 the workplace, cooperation with the private sector. State

15 government should take advantage of the motivation to learn

16 in the work setting as we structure effective literacy

17 programs and -- working together with individuals in the

18 workplace.

19 Third, we need to foster cooperation among state

20 agencies, the private sector and volunteer groups that deal

21 with literacy.

22 Lots of people want to be involved. Some of them

23 want to teach other people how to read, but they don't know

24 how to teach reading in spite of the fact that they know how

25 to read. Sometimes a state can be the agency that helps

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1 train volunteers who will later on through the volunteer

2 agencies provide the actual instruction.

3 Fourth, state government should improve

4 productivity and accountability of literacy programs. We

5 need to make sure that literacy programs that are supported

6 with tax dollars are very effective and that they use those

7 tax dollars wisely. We need better opportunities for parents

8 and children to work together on literacy skills. The PACE

9 program in Kentucky and the Parents as Teachers program in

10 Missouri are just two of the programs that can help

11 accomplish that goal.

12 Although our focus was on adult literacy and on

13 successful intervention strategy, we do recognize the need to

14 follow through with existing efforts to reform secondary and

15 elementary education to prevent adult illiteracy. Our

16 schools must do a better job so that we aren't pumping

17 additional illiterates into the workforce.

18 Finally, the task force believes literacy

19 strategies can play a large part in efforts to reform our

20 welfare system. We suggest that governors formalize plans to

21 help welfare recipients develop basic literacy skills that

22 will help them find productive emploYment.

23 I currently am working on a program called "Learn

24 Fair" in the state of Missouri, which is designed to require

25 people who do not have high school or GED skills to work

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1 toward those skills of they are to continue as recipients in

2 the -- in our system. Literacy is simply a matter of

3 fundamental importance, which I believe is key to our being

4 competitive.

5 If I may have another 30 seconds, I need to make

6 one other item as a report.

7 Governor Joe Frank Harris of Georgia and I are

8 serving on a committee of the National Thanksgiving

9 Foundation, which is putting together programs to celebrate

10 the benefits of 200 years of life under the United States

11 Constitution. Both houses of the Congress have enacted

12 legislation which was signed by the President designating

13 1987 as the national year of Thanksgiving. Bob Hope is the

14 national chairman of the committee.

15 The purpose is to express or develop an attitude

16 of gratitude in the United States for the blessings of life

17 and liberty under the Constitution for 200 years. There are

18 a lot of important plans. Last week the U.S. Conference of

19 Mayors sent a letter to well over 800 mayors of the country

20 to help them get involved in organizing this celebration of

21 Thanksgiving. Governor Harris and I, through the NGA, will

22 be writing to you in the near future to ask you to

23 participate in this exciting and historic event. For now, I

24 want to urge you to issue a state proclamation similar to the

25 national proclamation designating the period Thanksgiving '87

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1 to '88 as a year of Thanksgiving in your state.

2 Thanksgiving 1987 could be a very exciting and

3 meaningful celebration. While we think about

4 competitiveness, I think it's important for us to understand

5 that we have all benefited from a structure and circumstance,

6 set of values in this country, for which we ought to be

7 grateful which will allow us to be competitive in the

8 future. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much for that

10 excellent statement. Does anyone have a question of Governor

11 Ashcroft on the adult literacy or comment? Then I am going

12 to adjourn this meeting. Keep in mind that we begin

13 immediately now with the committee on criminal justice,

14 Governor Deukmejian's committee, and Governor O'Neill's

15 committee on transportation.

16 We are adjourned.

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2 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: This morning we have a very

3 tight agenda. We are going to hear from a very distinguished

4 American executive on the subject of competing, on the matter

5 of winning and losing. We are going to discuss the summary

6 reports from the five governors who chaired the task forces

7 on bringing down the barriers. We will consider proposed

8 policy statements and elect the executive committee for the

9 coming year.

10 I would like to ask everyone to please take your

11 seats. We need quiet in the back. We are going to have a

12 speech here that the governors want to hear, and all the rest

13 of you should too.

14 Our guest this morning is the chairman of Ford

15 Motor Company, Donald Petersen. He is going to be introduced

16 by his governor, Jim Blanchard. But before I calIon

17 Governor Blanchard, I just want to say a personal word of

18 thanks to Mr. Petersen for joining us here. Last year, when

19 I was writing the report on leadership for the Education

20 Commission to the States, I tried to make arrangements to

21 interview a few distinguished Americans about leadership and

22 effectiveness. Last December in Arizona Mr. Petersen was

23 kind enough to take about an hour of his time to visit with

24 me about that subject. I think anyone who has witnessed the

25 stunning effects of his company or driven the cars which

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1 produced that success, knows that he has a lot to tell

2 America's governors and America's business community. I am

3 very grateful that he has come to be with us today. I want

4 to ask Governor Blanchard to come forward now and introduce

5 him.

6 GOVERNOR BLANCHARD: Thank you very much, Governor

7 Clinton.

8 Our next guest is another proud resident of

9 Michigan. He was born in Pipestone, Minnesota; was educated

10 at the University of Washington and Stanford.

11 He happens to be chairman of the Ford Motor

12 Company, but what I like about him most of all is that for a

13 number of years he has paid careful attention to the

14 importance of education at all levels. On the skills of our

15 workforce and the brain power of our country. He also serves

16 as a member of my Governor's Commission on Jobs and Economic

17 Development, and presides over, without any doubt,

18 overwhelmingly, the most profitable automobile company in

19 America today. He is a classic example of how it is that

20 nice guys finish first.

21 Don Petersen, chairman of Ford Motor Company.

22 (Applause. )

23 MR. PETERSEN: Well, thank you very, very much,

24 Jim, for that most friendly introduction.

25 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I am honored

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1 to have this opportunity to address the 79th annual meeting

2 of the National Governors Association, and it's a pleasure to

3 be meeting with you in my home state of Michigan. When I

4 received the invitation to be here, I simply could not

5 refuse. Just think of it, a chance to speak to and meet with

6 most of the 50 governors, that's almost as many people as are

7 running for president.

8 But what really drew me here today was the theme

9 of your conference, and your recognition that international

10 competitiveness is mandatory today for the success of our

11 nation and the wellbeing of our people. The need for

12 international competitiveness dominates my business. It's a

13 24 hour a day, seven days a week concern. I think I even

14 dream about it. That is, when it isn't keeping me up

15 nights.

16 But if I lose a little sleep, that's okay. I

17 think a lot of us are going to have to lose a little sleep

18 and work a little harder and a little smarter if we are going

19 to have a competitive edge in the worldwide economy. I don't

20 think we have an option on this. We must have that edge.

21 The United States cannot allow its economic leadership to

22 falter.

23 I think Governor Booth Gardner quite plainly told

24 us why, in his state of the state address this year, and I

25 quote him:

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1 "Our standard of living, our quality of life, our

2 status as a leader in this world, all depend on our ability

3 to meet the dramatic challenge faced by the changing world

4 economy. "

5 I think we as a nation are finally understanding

6 this. I think Americans may be accepting the unpleasant

7 possibility that we could lose. Competition among economies

8 is like competition in anything else. There will be winners

9 and there will be losers. It's more than a question of

10 simply playing the game. Thinking about what I would say

11 here, I also had on my mind a series of events that have

12 occurred or are occurring at Ford in July.

13 For example, this morning, Ford enters national

14 negotiations with United Auto Workers. These may be

15 difficult negotiations because the issues are difficult. But

16 this is not a time for confrontation. It is a time to pull

17 together as a team against all corners. It is a critical time

18 to find new and innovative ways to work together.

19 Running through every issue, we will face at the

20 bargaining table, is the central theme of competing. How do

21 we compete and at the sarne time assure our employees a decent

22 standard of living and some degree of security. Tough

23 questions.

24 The answers won't corne from one side of the table

25 or the other, only from both sides working together.

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1 Another event occurred at Ford last Thursday, when

2 we announced record earnings at a time of increased

3 competition in markets here and abroad.

4 Those earnings were more than nice. They were

5 important to the company and its employees, because they

6 allow us to reinvest in future product programs and

7 manufacturing and other technologies required to face the

8 competition.

9 Investments, such as the more than half a billion

10 dollars for a new line of light trucks announced two weeks

11 ago. Governor Collins shared in announcing that $260 million

12 of investment, which will go towards expanding and retooling

13 our Louisville assembly plant. It will create 300 new jobs

14 and help secure 700 existing jobs at that plant. For

15 investments such as the $900 million investment that we

16 announced just yesterday, almost $400 million of that will go

17 towards converting our Romeo, Michigan facility, to a state

18 of the art engine plant. That is something we will need to

19 compete with the newest engine technologies of the '90s.

20 Investments such as these, in high quality products and new

21 manufacturing processes, do payoff.

22 I would like to think that similar efforts in the

23 past have a lot to do with Ford's car market share being up

24 2.6 percentage points this past quarter.

25 NOw, I have to tell you that talking about how a

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1 business has to compete is not very hard; it's actually doing

2 it that is difficult.

3 But the formula is simple. You have to get your

4 product right, because in any business, you have to appeal to

5 the customer with quality, with value and attractive design.

6 You must keep your costs down. At Ford we have

7 taken $5 billion a year out of our ongoing costs and

8 continued with the effort. You have to apply the best

9 technology to help insure a state of the art system; and you

10 have to apply it at the right pace. Finally, you have to

11 help people involved with training and allow them to fully

12 participate in the work that they do with their ideas and

13 commitment.

14 The final judgment as to whether a business is

15 competing is in the bottom line. Earnings to reinvest in the

16 business allover again, in projects such as those in

17 Louisville and Romeo and a lot of other places. I won't

18 mention all the states where we are planning investment,

19 because I don't want to start a free-for-all among you here

20 this morning.

21 But last year, we invested about $3.5 billion into

22 our products, our plants and our people. That amount can

23 only go up in the future. So I guarantee you, Ford is

24 competing. But like any other business, we know we have to

25 compete even more intensively.

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1 But I haven't come here simply to regale you with

2 stories of Ford. Much of American industry in the past few

3 years has come to the same conclusion and has been compelled

4 to take similar actions. Compelled not only to play the game

5 but play to win. We are competing in a new era; and I think

6 understanding this is a key to the future. But there is more

7 than one lock to be opened.

8 While the primary responsibility for international

9 competitiveness remains with us, the businesses and

10 industries of America, we have to accept that government

11 policies matter also.

12 There is simply no denying this in today's

13 environmental I am sorry, international economic

14 environment. It certainly isn't denied in other countries

15 and other economies. Much of our foreign competition is

16 aided directly by coordinated government policy in their home

17 countries. If we are to compete here in the United States,

18 then we need a similar relationship. We need a policy

19 environment consciously supportive of our international

20 competitiveness. Everything that American business and

21 industry does to compete will work only if government abides

22 by a basic ethic, and that is the belief and the need for a

23 sound environment in which commerce can compete and

24 flourish.

25 The welfare of the people, a fundamental

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1 responsibility of the governments we create, includes their

2 being able to work, strive, achieve and take pride in being

3 productive members of society. Since the start of this

4 decade, I and many of my colleagues in industry have spoken

5 often of the government's role; of the need for appropriately

6 valued and stable currencies; of the need for opposing

7 adversarial trade, that is trade and export strategies that

8 create serious dislocations in the importing country; of the

9 need for responsible economic policy in our country and in

10 those of our trading partners; and of the need for

11 responsible tax and regulatory policy.

12 Most of these actions can't be taken in

13 isolation. They require the cooperation of our trading

14 partners. If the goal is correcting world imbalances, yet

15 some nations have expressed complete indifference to the

16 problems in our international trading system.

17 Just a week ago I sat and listened rather

18 incredulously to a Japanese business leader who questioned

19 why Japan should import American goods when the same goods

20 are manufactured in Japan. This leader couldn't understand,

21 or chose not to, that u.S. manufacturers, using that

22 argument, could take the same position, a position which, if

23 practiced, could cause massive damage to the Japanese economy

24 or any other export-based economy.

25 But we don't take that position. Anyone can come

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1 to our market with goods to sell, and most do. The results

2 are that about 1/3 of all goods sold in America are

3 imported. Many of our basic industries are under immense

4 pressure, and some even for their survival.

5 I would like to think that I am a free trader at

6 heart. Yet I am frustrated that we are competing in a world

7 where there is little free trade and certainly less fair

8 trade than there is restricted trade. The frustration is

9 heightened when the restrictions and adversarial trading

10 practices come from those who proclaim the merit in the free

11 movement of goods and those who most benefit from the

12 wide-open markets of the u.s.

13 The trade bill moving through Congress right now

14 is a realization of the problems in our world trading

15 system. It is an attempt to put our trading partners on

16 notice; an attempt to say that the U.s. will deal with the

17 situations that threaten our economic wellbeing.

18 I hope that Congress and the administration can

19 work out an accommodation on the more important issues and

20 provide a law which promotes a fair competitive international

21 environment for U.s. businesses and industries. It is clear

22 that the action that Congress is taking reflects the mood of

23 the American people. Many of our national leaders are

24 recognizing that, to a large degree, America's competitive

25 ability is determined by the international and national

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1 environments the government provides.

2 Not the least of this recognition has occurred in

3 the individual states, and with good reason. When the United

4 States isn't competitive, it shows up in Washington as

5 numbers in a government publication. It shows up in

6 corporate America as red ink on the ledger sheets. But in

7 your states and local communities, it shows up in

8 unemploYment or under emploYment, an eroded tax base,

9 foreclosures and business failings. That gives the states a

10 mighty big stake in the competitive ability of this country

11 and its ability to retain and hopefully expand our

12 manufacturing base and the jobs that result.

13 I know that you realize this. While

14 competitiveness is an issue relatively new at the federal

15 level, states have long been involved in programs and

16 strategies to strengthen their own competitive position. In

17 recent years, these strategies have become quite

18 sophisticated. Changing Alliances, a recently published

19 Harvard study on the auto industry and the American economy,

20 says, and I quote, "Even though the relationship between the

21 Federal Government and the auto industry appears to be mired

22 in preglobal orthodoxies, at the level of state governments

23 across the country, a new model is emerging, one that

24 emphasizes the value of government as a competent partner, a

25 catalyst for competitiveness."

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1 Exchange rates, budget deficits and unfair trading

2 practices may be in the purview of the Federal Government.

3 But whether the products from a particular plant are

4 internationally competitive can also be affected by what a

5 state does or doesn't do. There is a wide array of

6 incentives offered by states to lure industries and help keep

7 them. There are, of course, tax incentives, highway

8 improvements, state financing programs and many more.

9 But I don't want to dwell on those types of

10 specifics today. Don't get me wrong, those incentives and

11 assistance programs are very important to us. They lower our

12 investment and operating costs, and cost is a major factor in

13 being competitive.

14 But there is a much broader viewpoint demanded by

15 today's world. We need to foster a total environment for

16 competitiveness; and, in many respects, state governments

17 will be in the forefront of promoting such an environment.

18 There needs to be a commitment to the importance of

19 cooperation. I think this is well demonstrated in my own

20 state of Michigan.

21 The auto in Michigan project, set up by Governor

22 Blanchard's administration, formally recognizes that the auto

23 industry and Michigan have common interests. The project

24 pulls together representatives from the industry, government

25 and labor, to assess trends and develop options for dealing

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1 with a changing, but still very important part of the state

2 economy. It is, in a very real sense, a partnership.

3 More and more evidence of this cooperative spirit

4 is springing up throughout the states, foreseeing more state

5 support for research and development. And much of this R&D

6 is being tailored to the state s' major industries, or their

7 economic development plans. We are seeing states assist in

8 the commercialization of new technology, by linking research

9 centers with potential commercial users of new technology,

10 and even with direct financial assistance for businesses and

11 entrepreneurs seeking to bring new products to the market.

12 But there is another area where a cooperative

13 spirit is needed, and it starts much further back in the

14 process. I truly believe that one of the most critical

15 factors in our future competitive ability will be our people,

16 their skills and determination to succeed.

17 I have no doubt of their determination, but they

18 must have the skills as well if we are to compete. Your

19 report notes that the vast majority of people who will be

20 working in the next two decades are already in the labor

21 force. To succeed, these people must receive the training

22 and retraining they will need to work in a world of

23 ever-increasing technological complexity.

24 Ford recognizes industry's role in this effort,

25 providing our employees with the training and new knowledge

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1 they need to do the best job possible, is a critical element

2 of our push to be competitive. Employee education and

3 training must be a life-long commitment. The ability to

4 adapt and keep our knowledge current is crucial.

5 Still, long before the workforce welcomes a new

6 member, the education system will have left its mark. If we

7 are to compete on into the next century, our education system

8 must be much better. The dropout rate, undereducated or even

9 illiterate graduates, curricula insufficient to prepare for

10 an increasingly technical and changing world. Too few

11 students taking up the sciences and mathematics. These are

12 more than depressing observations. They are dangerous

13 trends.

14 Governor Clinton, you and the other governors are

15 leading this nation's effort in a monumental task. But if

16 some of the statistics and trends are frightening, many of

17 the state actions thus far are encouraging.

18 Just a few of numerous examples, Indiana has

19 recently passed the most comprehensive education program in

20 its history. A critical feature provides for bonus funding

21 to schools that improve student attendance and improve math

22 and reading skills.

23 South Carolina has approved money for a math and

24 science high school. It will bring together the state's top

25 juniors and seniors for two years of intense study in those

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1 disciplines. In Minnesota, students can enter technical

2 institutes to study curricula designed in concert with

3 industry representatives. The students graduate when they

4 demonstrate mastery of the course of study. I applaud all of

5 these efforts, but much more will be needed.

6 David Kearns, the chief executive officer of Xerox

7 has suggested that we need to rethink our education system

8 from the ground up. We need to reorganize it, as we have our

9 businesses, for high quality an productivity, because we

10 can't remain a world-class nation otherwise. And I agree.

11 I believe that accomplishing this most critical

12 task will require the commitment of us all, including

13 American business.

14 Funding, beyond the judicious use of tax dollars,

15 will remain an important area of support. Already,

16 educational gifts are the largest category of corporate

17 giving, but our commitment must be even broader.

18 A recent survey of public school officials by

19 proeducation magazine found the following: 87 percent of

20 respondents thought more communication was needed between

21 schools and the business community concerning each other's

22 needs. 75 percent felt that the business community should

23 lend support in developing relevant curriculum. 59 percent

24 said that business should playa role in student motivation.

25 Clearly, the involvement of American business can

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1 and should take many forms. It's a big investment, but it's

2 the best investment we can make. A schoolhouse has been

3 described as four walls with the future inside. In today's

4 world, that future has to be international competitiveness.

5 Rather than think in terms of trade deficits or

6 productivity or market share, I sometimes find it easier to

7 focus on the importance of competitiveness by taking a more

8 personal perspective. And that is this, the American dream

9 has always centered on the next generation believing they can

10 aspire to something better than the previous generation; and

11 that previous generation has always helped pave the way to

12 those aspirations. Whether it was the Founding Fathers

13 forming a new nation or the pioneers of expanding a nation,

14 or in this century, the generation that fought for an ideal

15 or way of life, Americans have always passed something on. I

16 don't want to be in that generation that leaves something

17 less for those coming behind us.

18 Competing is a matter of winning or losing. We

19 have a lot to lose. But together, we can win. We can pass

20 on a stronger America and be proud of what we leave behind.

21 Thank you very much.

22 (Applause. )

23 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Mr. Petersen is going to take a

24 few questions beginning, I think, with Governor Sununu.

25 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Mr. Petersen, thank you again

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1 very much for taking the time to come and address us and

2 giving us a chance to discuss some of these issues with you.

3 One issue that I think a lot of us are concerned

4 with, and certainly you have addressed the issue of training

5 and education and the refocusing of our external resources in

6 this country. But one issue that I am concerned with is the

7 question of corporate philosophy and the fact that for a long

8 time in this country it seemed that the private sector was

9 content to make products that met our own domestic market

10 needs and hoped that they might be able to sell those abroad

11 without very much of an effort to tailor those products to

12 the desire of foreign markets.

13 In appliances, we were content to change the plug

14 to fit their electric system and never worried about the size

15 or cycle of our washers. The automobile industry built

16 automobiles for a large size in our domestic consumption and

17 was reluctant to down size for foreign markets.

18 Certainly there's been significant change in this

19 direction, certainly in your industry and others. But still,

20 I don't feel the trend has gone far enough. Could you

21 comment a little bit on what you see the reason for

22 continuing reluctance to tailor-make our products for foreign

23 markets.

24 MR. PETERSEN: I think the first observation I

25 would make is that the u.S. market is such a huge one that in

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1 many cases many companies find -- have thought in the past

2 that if they could get a good chunk of the American market,

3 that that was a very adequate effort on their part. Also, I

4 think until relatively recently, competition tended to be

5 much more localized, geographically, than it is now. I think

6 we have seen a true internationalizing of competition in the

7 last decade or so.

8 The very current problem that American industry

9 faces is that we had a prolonged period in the first part of

10 '80s, '80 to '85, especially when it became almost hopeless

11 to try to compete in any external markets because of the

12 extraordinary imbalance in our currency. The dollar just

13 made it absolutely impossible for most anyone, unless they

14 had a product that was unique, to be able to compete.

15 I think we saw many of the nation's companies and

16 industries virtually close up their export efforts, export

17 departments, in the first half of the '80s, because there was

18 no business. I believe many are now taking a look at the

19 sharp change in the other direction in currency

20 relationships. And as they believe, come to believe, that

21 those sharp changes are going to be relatively permanent, I

22 think what we are going to need and will see in this country

23 is a gearing back up, industry by industry, and company by

24 company, of efforts to export.

25 The largest -- one last comment I might make --

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1 the largest multinationals in this country have not had any

2 reduction in any significant percentage terms, in the total

3 amount of export those companies do worldwide. This is true

4 for the Ford Motor Company. All that has happened is that we

5 have changed -- Ford has, and all the other majors have

6 changed the countries from which we export. We couldn't

7 export from here, so we exported from elsewhere.

8 Our percentage of our total business that is

9 exported from one country to another, to repeat, is

10 absolutely the same level that was in the '70s or the '60s,

11 when this country traditionally ran tremendous surpluses.

12 It's been a movement from this country, which was

13 inhospitable to exports, to countries that were hospitable

14 that has occurred in so many cases.

15 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Other questions?

16 Governor Thompson, then Governor Orr.

17 MR. THOMASIAN: On that pOint, Mr. Chairman, do

18 you agree with Lee Iacocca when he says the current tax bill

19 is unfair to American manufacturers and that it encourages

20 exports from offshore operations like Canada and Mexico

21 instead of exports of automobiles, for example, from u.s.

22 factories?

23 MR. PETERSEN: I didn't hear that particular part

24 of Lee's speech, so I am not exactly sure what he said. The

25 last Federal tax law did reduce the competitiveness of

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1 America's manufacturing base somewhat by reducing some of the

2 tax incentives for capital investment. I would hope -- now,

3 the trade-off that I saw on that for the manufacturing sector

4 was the hope that the reduction in income taxes would

5 generate sufficient additional strength in the economy to

6 offset.

7 But as far as incentive to invest, incentive to --

8 in new capital equipment, I would hope the next round of tax

9 policy or tax action remembers that there was this action

10 taken, the previous occasion.

11 As far as thinking there was anything in the tax

12 law that unduly favored other countries, specifically, I

13 can't think of anything that I would comment on. In that

14 respect, the one concern that certainly I have for the auto

15 industry is the practice that is occurring now in Canada of

16 permitting foreign manufacturers with very modest investment

17 activity in Canada to have access to the American market

18 outside of the auto trade pact. This is clearly working to

19 the significant disadvantage of the American auto sector.

20 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Orr.

21 GOVERNOR ORR: Mr. Petersen, most governors are

22 spending a great deal of time on ventures overseas attempting

23 to hustle business, either encourage businesses elsewhere to

24 take a look at our perspective states; or I think in an

25 increasing way nowadays , encouraging businesses from our

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1 states to export to other parts of the world.

2 One of those things that I have noticed, and I

3 think many other governors, is that while, yes, the major

4 multinationals, many of them, but by far not all of them, are

5 very active in foreign markets, that you don't see very many

6 American salesmen out hustling business for their companies,

7 anywhere in foreign areas. This is particularly true, I

8 believe, in the areas across the Pacific.

9 Admittedly, Ford is doing an extremely good job

10 internationally. But I am wondering if there isn't a need

11 for top business leadership in this country to encourage the

12 smaller companies, where growth is more apt to take place

13 than perhaps anywhere, to get with it, to get over there.

14 We do lower, from time to time, barriers. But

15 what happens is that the Japanese rush in and sell those

16 products, like automotive components parts, for example.

17 Right now in Korea, there is a major opportunity for the

18 manufacturers of component parts, but you don't see salesmen

19 over there.

20 Do you have any suggestions that you can give to

21 all of us as to how we can bring that about?

22 MR. PETERSEN: You certainly touch on a

23 characteristic, I think, of Americans. We certainly don't

24 have as great a tendency to go over to the other person's

25 country and to work on that aspect of business as others do.

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11 Again, I think it's the size of this country. We tend to I 2 grow up in a rather insular environment, that's been our

3 history.

4 There definitely is a huge need and huge potential

5 for this country if we can between us and among us find ways

6 to motivate both our business and government sectors as well

7 as our individual citizens and workers and employees to have

8 an interest in going overseas and living overseas, working

9 there.

10 I think you touch on the area where it would be

11 far most useful, and that is among the smaller size, medium

12 size companies. As you get into the larger-size companies,

13 we tend to be positioned in the countries overseas, and you

14 don't see us as Americans because we aren't.

15 We are now starting in Korea. As you look for us

16 in Korea, you will find us as Koreans, and so on all around

17 the world. There are just a few hundred of us Americans in

18 Ford's empire of 23 nations, I think it is, where we are

19 manufacturing today. There are just a few hundred of us.

20 We believe that we should become part of the

21 nation and develop jobs in that nation, if we want to be an

22 important participant in that nation.

23 It's gotten us around this dilemma of how in the

24 world do you get Americans willing, especially I can touch on

25 a key problem, willing to live in Asia? Because, in my mind,

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1 there is no question but what we are entering an era that I

2 think of as the Asian era. This will remain true now for

3 decades.

4 I think that it's a very fortunate fact for the

5 United States that we are positioned as we are geographically

6 where we can simply refocus ourselves across the Pacific,

7 where we have until now lived with such a dominant focus

8 across the Atlantic. If we can only do that and bring

9 ourselves to realize that's absolutely what we must do, I

10 think we have every opportunity to remain one of the vital

11 focal points in international trade.

12 How to do it, how to generate the interest, I

13 guess I would start right in the schools. I talked about how

14 business certainly has to be more active than it has been in

15 working in the school environment. We could be helping to

16 generate interest in living overseas, in the tremendous

17 environment that can provide a stimulation, stimulating

18 environment that it can provide. Our people who do go

19 overseas invariably consider it among the highlight periods

20 in their lives.

21 So I think there are many things that we ought to

22 be able to do to generate more interest among Americans in

23 outreach, if you will. I certainly hope so, because I think

24 it's a very important element.

25 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Bryan. This will have

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1 to be the last question.

2 GOVERNOR BRYAN: Mr. Petersen, many of the

3 commentators who have compared American business philosophy

4 with Japanese business philosophy make the comparison that

5 Japan has a long-term focus, that they are prepared to accept

6 some short-term losses for long-term advantages.

7 Just the opposite seems to be the American

8 corporate philosophy. That is, we are so anxious to see what

9 the bottom line is this year that we have often lost sight of

10 the long-term advantage and market share that might be gained

11 from that new product that initially involves enormous

12 expense with no apparent short-term benefit.

13 Could you comment on that observation.

14 MR. PETERSEN: I think there's an element of truth

15 in it. In some respects, I think it's been even more true in

16 these past years, in the '80s, when -- you are never quite

17 sure when the next raider is going to be attempting to take

18 over your company.

19 It's a little bit hard to be long-term in your

20 view if you are facing some very, very serious questions

21 about whether you are going to survive as an entity. It's

22 also a truism that we live with the dynamics of Wall Street

23 as part of our ongoing lives. That has its effect on the

24 American psyche, business psyche.

25 So I do believe there is an element of a problem

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1 for a business person in the United States to work with and

2 to develop the right balance of short- and long-term

3 objectives, vis-a-vis some of the other societies. Again, I

4 think we are talking particularly the Asian societies.

5 perhaps the difficulties of the past, close on to

6 10 years, has done its job and has been sufficiently

7 therapeutic to cause more and more businesses to realize that

8 the long-term stability of the enterprise is obviously the

9 most paramount issue that any chief executive of any major

10 group of management individuals must face.

11 Certainly it's an institutionalized feeling in my

12 own company. And I sense, as I talk with other chief

13 executives, other people in business, that there is a growing

14 awareness of the importance of this, and a determination to

15 inject more thrust as far as long-term objectives into the

16 overall strategy that a company has for the future.

17 It's an ongoing problem, and there are some

18 built-in institutional reasons why it's there and it's going

19 to continue to be there.

20 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much,

21 Mr. Petersen.

22 (Applause. )

23 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: We are about ready to start the

24 final report of the Barriers Task Force, which I hope will be

25 interesting to you.

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1 Governor Baliles has asked to be recognized for

2 just a moment. I want him to make a brief comment, and then

3 we will go on to the report of the Barriers Task Force.

4 GOVERNOR BALILES: Mr. Chairman, I think it's

5 clear from this conference that in state after state many

6 good ideas are finding their way to the surface, offering the

7 debate for risk and models for action by other states. Time

8 and time again, whether we are talking about education, human

9 resources or economic development, the NGA has been a

10 catalyst for change in action in the national debate.

11 But during this conference, several comments have

12 been made, some from our speakers, that disturb me, because

13 it's been inferred that with all of our problems in the area

14 of economic development and trade, that our greatest

15 challenge is figuring out what to do about the Japanese.

16 The fact is, if you take the Japanese and the West

17 Germans together, they account for only 22 percent of

18 American trade. Canada, with whom we do not seem to have

19 many problems, accounts for almost 21 percent of the trade.

20 If you take south Korea, Brazil and some of the other

21 countries, they being for about 11 percent of the trade. So

22 it seems to me that while we need to keep the pressure on and

23 talk about two-way trade and removal of barriers, I think it

24 would be a mistake for anyone to associate disassociation as

25 engaging in the bashing of one country over another.

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1 The fact is that international trade is a way of

2 life; it has been going on for years. 25 years ago, when

3 Kennedy was president, I think the numbers that I saw the

4 other day, less than 10 percent of our GNP was tied up in

5 foreign trade. Today, it's 1/4. By 1990 it will be 1/3. 25

6 years ago, only 1/4 of our company faced foreign

7 competition. Today, it's 70 percent. So whether we like it

8 or not, foreign trade, international trade, will be a fact of

9 life for all of us to consider.

10 In the words of that immortal professor, Harold

11 Hill, much of the trouble, at any rate, is right here in

12 River City. The NGA report that Governor Clinton directed us

13 to consider and develop is aimed at healing ourselves, making

14 us competitive, so that when the streets are open, the

15 barriers are down, we have the able to hustle and compete in

16 world markets. I think it's important for us to recognize

17 that the importance of this report that the governors have

18 developed is to provide us with the ability to compete and

19 survive in an international marketplace that I think is here

20 forever.

21 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much, Governor

22 Baliles. I would just like to say in support of that, a

23 couple of brief remarks. All the studies I have seen

24 indicate that of the $60 billion trade deficit we had with

25 Japan last year, only about 20 percent of it was attributable

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11 to restrictive markets in that country. By contrast -- which

2 is about 6 percent of our total deficit by contrast, 19

3 percent of our trade deficit last year was due to the

4 depression in Latin America, which exceeds the conditions

5 which prevailed in the '30s. And if the growth rates of the

6 '70s had prevailed there, our trade deficit would have been

7 20 percent lower, and the farmers in the middle of the

8 country would have been much better off.

9 I think there's much we have to do with the

10 Japanese, not only with regard to markets, but in helping

11 them reduce the Third World debt. I think it's important to

12 do it in the context of always recognizing that we have a

13 responsibility to order our own house first.

14 Now, I would like to ask you to direct your

15 attention to the screens behind me. We will begin the final

16 report of the Bringing Down the Barriers Task Force.

17 (Presentation of "Bringing Down the Barriers"

18 film. )

19 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: When I became chairman of the

20 National Governors Association last year, the governors had

21 been working hard for four years on education reform. One of

22 the most fundamental issues of our time. Our association had

23 just issued a report on what governors should be doing for

24 the next five years to get the reform band-wagon rolling and

25 keep our schools improving.

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1 But I assumed the chairmanship with a haunting

2 sense that as important as these education reforms were, much

3 more needed to be done. I established this welfare

4 prevention project, the Barriers Project, composed of five

5 task forces dealing with most widespread and crippling

6 barriers facing our country today, welfare dependency, school

7 dropouts, teen pregnancy, adult illiteracy and alcohol and

8 drug abuse.

9 The plans developed by these task forces

10 emphasized prevention and are designed to enhance the ability

11 of our people to live up to their God-given capacities. And

12 in so dOing, to provide the contributions we need from them,

13 I am grateful to the governor of Delaware, Governor Castle,

14 to Governor Perpich of Minnesota, Governor Thompson of

15 Illinois, Governor Ashcroft of Missouri and Governor Collins

16 of Kentucky for their work in chairing these tasks forces.

17 Their work is found in the Bringing Down the Barriers Report,

18 which will now be presented by them.

19 Since March of 1986, Governor Castle and I have

20 worked as a team on the important subject of welfare

21 prevention. The National Governors Association will be proud

22 of the role we played in this welfare reform prevention

23 movement.

24 Governor Castle.

25 GOVERNOR CASTLE: Thank you very much,

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11 Mr. Chairman.

2 The task force of which I am chair came into

3 existence in February 1986, to take up the question of

4 welfare reform. It is significant that one of the first acts

5 of the task force was to rename itself from Welfare Reform

6 Task Force to Welfare Prevention Task Force. We could have

7 easily called it the Human Opportunity Task Force, because

8 that is the real issue the members of the task force and

9 every governor in this organization has addressed. Dignity

10 and hope and opportunity.

11 Over the past year and a half, the Welfare

12 Prevention Task Force has focused on the issue of redesigning

13 the welfare program as we know it, changing the emphasis from

14 income maintenance with a minor work training component, to

15 employment training with a minor income maintenance

16 component.

17 The work of the task force has taken two paths.

18 First, was the development of a welfare reform policy that

19 would support a major shift to emphasizing employment and

20 training opportunities for people already on welfare. Once

21 that policy was in place, we turned our attention to the

22 development of prevention strategies to end the generation

23 after generation of dependency the current system

24 encourages.

25 This would complement the work of the other task

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1 forces addressing the issues of teen pregnancy, substance

2 abuse, school dropouts and adult literacy. This effort was

3 not unlike the search for the single spring that represents

4 the beginning of a great river. To arrive at the root causes

5 of welfare dependency requires a long journey. And, for the

6 most part, the origins of that dependency are found at the

7 beginning of the recipient's life and even before.

8 It's almost like predestination. In many cases, a

9 24-year-old single mother on welfare today was born into

10 welfare. Her mother did not receive proper medical care

11 during pregnancy. As a baby, she received inadequate care.

12 The factors that put her at risk were not identified early

13 enough or were ignored. If we are to truly prevent welfare

14 and even work toward eliminating it, then we must concern

15 ourselves with intervening early on.

16 The question always before us was, what

17 interventions can be made and at what points in the person's

18 lifetime should they be made to maximize every individual's

19 chance to be healthy, productive and independent.

20 Because our original charge was a welfare reform

21 policy, we applied the question first to current adult

22 welfare recipients. We looked at the historical mission and

23 structure of the Aid to Families with Dependent Children

24 program. We talked to clients. We read the available

25 research on both the characteristics of AFDC clients and the

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11 impact of AFDC on their lives. We concluded that the current

2 welfare system requires people to choose between security

3 without pride or pride without security.

4 The welfare reform policy, adopted by the

5 governors in February, would change that. Adopted by

6 Congress and signed into law by the president, it would turn

7 the welfare system into a system capable of repairing damaged

8 and unproductive lives and would allow this nation to make

9 good on its promise of opportunity for every citizen.

10 We believe in a strong child support system, one

11 that ensures that each parent lives up to the responsibility

12 to support the children he has brought into the world. We

13 support a flexible emploYment program, combined services,

14 ranging from remedial education and training to child care.

15 We recognize the need for a case management

16 component that ensures its services reflect an individual

17 client's needs, resources and family circumstances. We

18 support a contract between client and agency which clarifies

19 the responsibilities of each. We believe that government can

20 help remove disincentives to work and can smooth the

21 transition to self-sufficient by providing key support

22 service like child care and healthcare coverage.

23 Finally, we support a revised income assistance

24 program, a family living standard based on state specific

25 costs of living, to provide fair and adequate support to

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1 families moving towards independence, as well as to families

2 that may never become totally free of the need for the

3 community's help and to nourish and sustain children

4 regardless of where they live.

5 With our welfare reform policy adopted and moving

6 towards Congressional action, we turn again to the question

7 of strategic points of intervention in a person's life that

8 would reduce the risk of the eventual dependency. We asked

9 ourselves what could we do for the children, the 7 million

10 children who live on AFDC and the 5 million children not

11 serving by the welfare system, who live in poverty in our

12 country.

13 The information emerging from the other task

14 forces about the interrelated natures of the problem of teen

15 pregnancy, substance abuse, school dropouts and adult

16 literacy and their common basis in low academic achievement,

17 low self esteem and restricted life options, haunted us as we

18 searched for the key elements of a strategy for children. A

19 simple yet profound truth emerged. By investing in some very

20 basic protections for our children, we can reduce the risks

21 they face; the risk of dependency, the risk of failing in

22 school, the risk of unhealthy lives, their risk that they

23 will give up on life convinced that life has given up on

24 them.

25 Comprehensive prenatal care, preventive

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11 healthcare, a healthy diet, child care that enhances a

2 child's educational and social development. Family resource

3 centers to nurture and support parents' efforts to raise

1 4 healthy children and recreation opportunities which

5 positively engage children's energy. These are the things in

6 which we must invest.

7 How can governors direct this change?

8 As it happens, the steps involved in developing an

9 action agenda for welfare recipients are little different

10 from the steps involved in developing an agenda to prevent

11 dependency in succeeding generations of children. There are

12 four critical factors: Leadership in the governors office,

13 creative reallocation of existing funds and pooling of funds

14 from multiple sources, broad interagency collaboration and

15 development of the public/private partnership at the

16 community level.

17 We believe that our best contribution to the

18 welfare debate has been to reshape the way we see the

19 problem. We can all look at the streams of discouraging

20 statistics and see a large and hopeless mess. Or we can look

21 at the statistics and see opportunity, opportunity to change

22 the way we do business, to invest wisely, systematically and

23 substantially in prevention.

24 The question before us all is how to bring down

25 the barriers to productive lives, invest in our human capital

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1 and make America competitive in a global economy. We must

2 act in concert; governors, Congress, county commissioners,

3 mayors, state legislatures, citizen advocates, communities,

4 churches. We must act deliberately and thoughtfully,

5 implementing investment strategies based on tested ideas and

6 at the same time open to innovative approaches. Our problems

7 are complex, but they are solvable. We cannot afford not to

8 solve them. Our very survival as a nation of compassion,

9 creativity and strength depends on it.

10 Thank you.

11 (Applause. )

12 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: More than 4 million teenage

13 girls in this country become pregnant each year, a teen

14 pregnancy rate that surpasses all other western developed

15 nations.

16 Governor Thompson.

17 MR. THOMASIAN: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

18 The work of this task force just may be the most

19 important item on our agenda today. I say that because we

20 are attempting to call attention to the nationwide problem of

21 children giving birth to children. It's not a population

22 explosion, but it carries significant problems today and for

23 the future of our states, for the future of those very young

24 mothers and fathers and their babies. We are all aware of

25 the effects that teen pregnancies have in our own states, in

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11 our schools, our welfare departments, our child protection

2 agencies.

3 But consider the impact nationwide. Here are just

4 a few of the statistics gathered during the course of this

5 task force's work.

6 Point one, more than 1 million teenage girls in

7 America become pregnant each year. Often forgotten are the

8 teenage boys and young men who become fathers each year.

9 That astounding and unacceptable teen pregnancy rate places

10 the United States first among all western developed nations

11 in its rates of teen pregnancy, abortion and births. Not a

12 record for us to point to with pride.

13 Point two, because these child mothers often

14 receive medical care late in the pregnancy, the probability

15 increases for low birth weight babies with complex and

16 expensive health problems. The likelihood increases that

17 their babies will die in the first year of life.

18 Point three, the future for these young mothers

19 and fathers is at risk. Teen pregnancy is the number 1

20 reason for females to terminate their education prematurely.

21 Without an income or job skills, these young parents will

22 turn to the government for assistance. Too many will never

23 know anything but a life on welfare.

24 Point four, the welfare, food stamp and Medicaid

25 cost of teenage childbearing last year was $18 billion. That

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11 conservative estimate exceeds the entire budgets of all but

21 four of the 50 states.

3 Those are only statistics, cold numbers. They may

1 4 describe the impact on a government budget document, but the

5 children have their own stories. In Illinois, our

6 parents-too-soon program has launched a media campaign to let

7 teens talk about the consequences of teen sexuality, about

8 the harsh realities of being a parent too soon.

9 (Film continued.)

10 MR. THOMASIAN: The task force examined the

11 parents-too-soon program in Illinois, efforts of the

12 governors on the task force and throughout the country. We

13 found much to be commended to all of you. We have completed

14 a report containing a full set of recommendations directed

15 towards the responsible approach by state government.

16 Through a careful analysis of successful programs

17 throughout the nation, the task forces developed a guide with

18 an eight-step process that states will find useful in

19 developing or building on their own programs. We recognize

20 that every governor in every state must tailor his own

21 system. We recognize that every governor must act.

22 In Illinois, we are paying attention to the

23 children of teenagers as well as their parents. As one

24 method of breaking the cycle of children having children, we

25 have adopted the class of '99. If we don't take special care

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1 of those four-year-olds today, we will compound problems for

2 both society and those children at the turn of the century.

3 Through that adoption, we are setting goals for state

4 government to work with volunteers and the private sector to

5 guide those children away from early pregnancies, away from

6 alcohol and drugs, away from gangs and prison. If we lose

7 the child, we lose the adult. By current statistics, at

8 least one of every seven females in the class of '99 will

9 have, as children themselves, become pregnant. We aim to

10 reverse that trend.

11 For the short-term, we turn to our community-based

12 parents-too-soon program, which receives its strength from

13 its diversity. We recognize that what works in Chicago may

14 not be best for rural Illinois. And what works in my state

15 may not be the answer for your state.

16 There are, I believe, three recommendations that

17 apply to all states and need to be highlighted in our brief

18 remaining time today.

19 First, our recommendations begin with ourselves.

20 While many of the programs will be adopted and implemented at

21 the local level, leadership by governors is critical.

22 Second, coordination among the many agencies and

23 volunteer groups serving youngsters is an important element

24 of the successful program. The more comprehensive approach,

25 the more better are our chances of reducing the number of

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1 pregnancies. Early sexual activity and early pregnancy are

2 linked to problems associated with low school achievements,

3 school dropouts, juvenile delinquency, teen unemplOYment and

4 alcohol and drug use. Programs aimed at combatting those

5 programs are directed at the same people we are trying to

6 reach. We will get our best results by coordinating the

7 response.

8 Third, the task force urges all states to increase

9 the awareness and the accountability of the fathers. Equal

10 attention should be focused on young males, both for

11 pregnancy prevention and to prepare them for the

12 responsibilities of being a parent.

13 In Illinois, we will increase our efforts in this

14 area next fall when we join with the United Way and the Urban

15 League for a summit on male responsibilities. Too often,

16 young males assume they can walk away, and they do walk

17 away. Males should be part of the solution. It means

18 encouraging males to postpone sexual activity and letting

19 them know the realities of child support enforcement. It

20 means including the fathers in parent education courses,

21 regardless of whether they have married the mother of their

22 children. It means reaching out to parents, instructing them

23 on their responsibilities for their son's sexual behavior and

24 its consequences. It means targeting, training and

25 emplOYment programs to young, unemployed fathers so they can

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11 provide for their new families and recognize the

2 responsibilities of raising a family.

3 The governors and their staff members assisting

4 this task force have done a very good job. Many of us think

5 that we have excellent programs in our own states to serve as

6 models. But in reality, there is much more to be done. We

7 cannot outlaw teen pregnancies through legislation, require

8 bureaucratic permits or taxing out of existence. We can only

9 commit to working on all fronts, to supporting our

10 communities and social service workers in the field. We

11 cannot sit back and do nothing. The price of inaction is too I

12 high. The governors of this nation should be prepared to

13 act.

14 Thank you.

15 (Applause. )

16 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Ashcroft chaired our

17 Task Force on Adult Literacy. Regretfully, he cannot be here

18 with us today. He has asked me to read his report and

19 present it for him.

20 Literacy may be the most important issue of our

21 time. It is fundamental to everything else, our system of

22 education, our work, the efficiency and productivity of our

23 society. It's fundamental to human fulfillment and to the

24 appreciation of world culture on western civilization. It's

25 fundamental to the future of our democratic republic. The

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1 literacy task for has benefitted from the exemplary work of

2 the United States Department of Education's national

3 assessment of educational progress. NAPH has published

4 several notable reports dealing with literacy.

5 Literacy has has received attention in the

6 publishing arena. Books by David Harmon and E.E. Hirsh Jr.

7 have received widespread attention and have elevated and

8 enlightened the national discussion of literacy.

9 But nothing has done more to bring public

10 attention to literacy than has the cooperative effort between

11 the Public Broadcasting Service, PBS, and Capital Cities,

12 ABC, Project Literacy U.S., or PLUS. ABC and PBS have

13 recently announced that they will continue PLUS for another

14 year. Both networks have major literacy programming events

15 in development in many everyday of every week PLUS

16 advertisements aired throughout the country.

17 In addition, the PLUS initiative has launched a

18 new literacy effort with America's theme parks entitled "Read

19 America, Win America." One of America's foremost

20 entertainers and theme park entrepreneurs, Dolly Parton has

21 agreed to chair this creative effort.

22 This task force worked with PBS, ABC and the

23 Education Commission of the States to sponsor a national

24 literacy summit in St. Louis in March. In the room on that

25 day, were many of the key players in the literacy efforts in

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11 our country, including President Frank Newman of ECS, Jim I 2 Duffy, president of Capital Cities, ABC communications

3 network. Margo Woodwell of PBS station WQED in Pittsburgh

1 4 and Harold McGraw, chairman of the board of McGraw-Hill and

5 founder of the Business Council for Effective Literacy. I 6 Other guests included foundation executives, scholars,

7 business leaders, association officers, political leaders and

8 educators.

9 The members of the task force are very encouraged

10 about the serious interest in literacy displayed by leading

11 America corporations. The number of companies sponsors

12 literacy initiatives and organizing in-house efforts

13 continues to expand. Governor Ashcroft and his task force

14 are pleased to note that several companies, McGraw-Hill and

15 General Dynamics, among others, have made significant

16 contributions to supporting the National Literacy Hotline,

17 the basic referral agency used in the PLUS campaign and by

18 state literacy coalitions in many of your states.

19 The burgeoning literacy movement in America has

20 received a tremendous boost from leading civic, political and

21 entertainment personalities. Their efforts to bring

22 increased public awareness to the issue and to recruit new

23 tutors and learners is accomplishing much to make easier our

24 jobs at the state level.

25 The task force has identified seven key components

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1 of an effective state literacy strategy to be led by

2 governors, that makes sense for our times. It's strategy

3 that calls for gubernatorial leadership. Let me share with

4 you its seven crucial themes.

5 First, a state literacy strategy that can bring

6 down the barriers to employment must focus on the needs of

7 adult learners. Adults learn differently than children do.

8 Their motivations are different; usually to enhance their

9 chances for increased work responsibilities and pay, to keep

10 up with changes in the nature of work or in anticipation of

11 new employment. Learning for adults is contextual,

12 functional and relevant to their needs in life. Those of us

13 who make state policy must acknowledge the circumstances in

14 which adults learn, and shape programs and services to meet

15 those special considerations.

16 A second component of the state successful

17 literacy strategy is to find ways to enhance literacy

18 training in the workplace. Because adults are best motivated

19 to learn in the work setting, state governments should take

20 advantage of that motivation to promote literacy programs in

21 conjunction with business and labor.

22 Related to promoting workplace literacy is the

23 need to foster cooperation among state agencies for private

24 sector and volunteer groups that deal with literacy. The

25 problem of adult literacy is staggering. We cannot afford to

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waste anything through inefficiency. 11I

2 I have already mentioned some of the corporate

3 leaders in literacy. Let me mention now some of the

1 4 volunteer groups that have labored in this field for years

5 without receiving the recognition they richly deserve. The

6 Lawback Literacy International, International Reading

7 Association, Literacy Volunteers of America, public

8 libraries, church groups and many others. These volunteers

9 have given time, money and dedication in the struggle to make

10 our citizenry more literate and productive.

11 As governors, we need to assure that business,

12 labor and volunteer groups are fully incorporated in our

13 literacy strategies.

14 The fourth component of a good literacy strategy

15 is to further program productivity and accountability. One

16 of the common themes shared during the task force meetings

17 was a need to ensure that literacy programs supported with

18 public funds are really working, and that they make a real

19 difference in the lives of adult learners.

20 Literacy programs need to be accountable for the

21 public funds they spend. We owe this to the taxpayers and to

22 the adults who come to the program as tutors and learners.

23 The fifth idea is this. We need to facilitate

24 means by which parents and children can jOintly enhance their

25 own literacy skills. Parents who foster an environment

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conducive to reading and learning in the horne will be doing 11I I 2 much to promote good literacy skills among their children.

3 In Missouri, Governor Ashcroft developed a program

1 4 called Parents as Teachers to help parents learn how they can

5 become their children's first and best teachers. This helps I 6 parents know when the child is ready to learn and what kinds

7 of learning are appropriate as the child develops. We need

8 to break the intergenerational cycle of illiteracy. I cannot

9 think of a better or more logical place to start in the than

10 in the horne. Our schools must be in the front line.

11 Although the task force recognizes an intervention

12 strategy necessary to address the problem of adult literacy,

13 a prevention strategy based in our schools is just as

14 important. Thus, we suggest that all governors follow

15 through with existing reform elements in elementary and

16 secondary education as a way to best prevent adult

17 illiteracy.

18 Many of us are heavily involved in implementing

19 education reforms that we sponsored in the last several

20 years. We must continue. We must work to prevent adult

21 illiteracy by enhancing the educational opportunities and

22 achievements of children in our schools.

23 Seventh and finally, a suggestion for effective

24 state literacy strategy is this. We need to formalize plans

25 to help welfare recipients receive basic literacy skills that

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Ii I will help them to find productive employment. Providing 2 basic literacy training to those on welfare who need it is

3 essential to an effective welfare reform effort.

4 Finally, I want to mention the cooperative

5 relationship that task forces had with the Council of State,

6 Planning and Policy Agencies, one of NGA's affiliated

7 agencies. CSPA sponsored a state policy academy for

8 increasing literacy for jobs and productivity, June 1st

9 through 5th in Excelsior Springs, Missouri.

10 Teens from 10 states were selected to participate

11 in the academy which helped to clarify state literacy needs

12 and to develop policy to address those needs effectively. In

13 addition, CSPA has developed a literacy policy guide which

14 the task force helped to shape. Each of you will receive a

15 copy of that at this conference.

16 The task force appreciates this opportunity to

17 share with the governors the seven components of an effective

18 literacy strategy and to present information on the broader

19 literacy movement in America.

20 (Applause. )

21 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: At our February meeting, the

22 Task Force on Alcohol and Drug Abuse Prevention brought us

23 Amy Freeman and her parents. Amy is a teenage alcoholic and

24 drug addict who told us of her 16-month struggle to become

25 drug and alcohol free. We were all touched; we all yearned

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1 to reach out and help young people and adults like Amy.

2 Governor Martha Lane Collins.

3 GOVERNOR COLLINS: First of all, I would like to

4 thank all of the governors on this task force and their

5 staffs for the wonderful cooperation and job that they did.

6 I hope that all of the governors have seen the bags that have

7 been stuffed with information from about 12 different

8 states. I hope that you will take them home and share them

9 with your staff.

10 For nearly a year the Task Force on Alcohol and

11 Drug Abuse Prevention has been working to develop a

12 comprehensive plan for fighting substance abuse that can be

13 adapted to our states. Today, on behalf of the members of

14 that task force, I would like to present our agenda for state

15 action.

16 Our recommendations are not costly, and they will

17 work. They can be suited to the particular circumstances in

18 any state. The keystone around which they are built is an

19 effort to prevent abuse in the first place. But education

20 and prevention by themselves are not enough. They must work

21 in concert with other measures. The four steps of our action

22 plan are; one, lay the ground work; two, find a program that

23 works; three, find funding for the plan; and, then, four,

24 rally support for that plan.

25 Now, I would like to give you a more in-depth look

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1 at these steps and offer you some concrete examples of how an

2 action plan can be implemented. To lay the ground work for a

3 broad-based prevention and education program, states must

4 first assess the scope of the problem then develop individual

5 strategies. In the early planning stages, states need to

6 establish a clearinghouse for information, such as a task

7 force or a statewide action group. The clearinghouse would

8 report directly to the governor and would be instrumental in

9 developing the final action plan.

10 Develop a centralized system where substance abuse

11 data and statistics are collected. This enables states to

12 determine the scope of their substance abuse problem and will

13 help in targeting programs.

14 Review existing services. States should closely

15 examine current programs before deciding what areas need more

16 attention or where changes need to be made, and then

17 I coordinate state agencies that deal directly with drug and

18 alcohol abuse. In Kentucky, we have organized our state

19 agencies and other key groups under the umbrella of Champions

20 against Drugs. The division of Substance Abuse and the

21 Cabinet of Human Resources helps direct and plan the

22 Champion's efforts.

23 Several other states have undertaken similar

24 coordinated approaches, such as New Jersey Governor Kean's

25 Alliance for a Drug-Free New Jersey. Under the Alliance,

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1 Governor Kean is working to establish a drug-free program

2 against substance abuse in all of New Jersey's 567 cities and

3 towns.

4 Missouri's governor, John Ashcroft, recently

5 announced a six-part drug and alcohol abuse initiative

6 entitled "Mo Says No to Drug and Alcohol Abuse."

7 The Governors Alliance Against Drugs, spearheaded

8 by Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis is a nationally

9 acclaimed program which began in 18 communities in 1984 and

10 has grown to over 300 communities. Programs such as these

11 enable states to better focus responsibility and encourages

12 cooperation on both the state and local levels.

13 After laying the groundwork for a comprehensive

14 plan, states must find a program that works, which includes

15 addressing the areas of prevention and education, training

16 and professional development, intervention and treatment and

17 interdiction in law enforcement.

18 Prevention and education continue to be our most

19 effective weapons in the fight against substance abuse.

20 These programs are aimed at discouraging individuals from

21 ever using drugs and alcohol. Kentucky's Champions program

22 enlists the help of the well known sports figures and other

23 celbrities in spreading the message that drugs and alcohol

24 are dangerous. The members of our Council of Champions

25 volunteered to participate in rallies and other events that

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11 promote drug-free environments.

2 In designing an effective education and prevents

3 program, anti substance abuse messages must be tailored to

4 different age groups. In Kentucky, we have recently

5 introduced a very exciting program into several of our

6 schools' curriculum. project Dare, which originated in

7 California, gears messages to kindergarten and elementary-age

8 young people. One of of the unique aspects of Project Dare

9 is that a uniformed policeman serves as an instructor. This,

10 we have found, teaches children respect for law enforcement

11 officials, and we are already in the process of expanding the

12 program.

13 Training and professional development for those

14 involved in a fight against alcohol and drugs are also

15 essential ingredients for successful action plan. The

16 purpose of training and professional development is to

17 sharpen the abilities of teachers, judges, social workers and

18 others in detecting individuals with substance abuse

19 problems.

20 Intervention and treatment are vital components in

21 any broad-based state program. Schools and communities

22 across this country have already taken the initiative and

23 established substance abuse centers to help our citizens

24 triumph over drug and alcohol problems. Peer groups in

25 several states are using positive peer pressure in an effort

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11 to keep individuals from forming drug and alcohol abuse

2 habits, or help those with problems conquer it.

3 Amy Freeman, the young woman who testified during

1 4 NGA's February meeting, was a participant in such a peer

5 problem called Kids Helping Kids. Finding programs that

6 work, states must control not only the demand for but also

7 the supply of dangerous substances. States must make a

8 concerted effort to reduce the supply through increased law

9 enforcement and more stringent regulations.

10 In Kentucky, we've stepped up our efforts to stop

11 the supply of illegal substances. Last October, the National

12 Guard in Kentucky joined forces with Kentucky state police in

13 the "green-gray sweep," an operation to locate and destroy

14 marijuana fields across the Commonwealth. Our enforcement

15 efforts enabled us to confiscate and destroy $949 million

16 worth of marijuana last year alone, more than any other state

17 in the nation.

18 In October 1986, Iowa, under the leadership of

19 Governor Terry Branstad, took an innovative step in opening

20 eight correctional facilities for individuals convicted of

21 driving while intoxicated. These facilities combined

22 treatment programs, supervised living and emploYment

23 opportunities.

24 Once a program course has been charted, the next

25 step, the third step in our proposal, is find funding for the

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11 plan. Funding can come in many forms from several sources. I 2 In addition to state and federal money, states should not

3 forget to look to businesses, community organizations,

1 4 individuals, banks, corporations and even the media for

5 support. The key is to be -- is to determine long- and I 6 short-range goals and fund those programs that have proven to

7 be good investments or have the potential for being highly

8 successful. It is also important to once again survey

9 current expenditures and consider redirecting funds, if

10 necessary.

11 After states have formulated a comprehensive

12 strategy and have found funding for their programs, the final

13 and most important step is rally support for the plan. As

14 state leaders, governors can and must playa vital role in

15 garnering support for and implementing a successful program.

16 I have cited just a few examples of states that

17 have already begun coordinating and instituting substance

18 abuse programs. Many more states have begun exploring ways

19 to fight the drug and alcohol problem that plagues our

20 nation.

21 Our four-step proposal is meant to be used as a

22 guideline for mapping out individual action plans. Our

23 recommendations are far-reaching, comprehensive and

24 practical. It's imperative that we act on them, taking any

25 necessary initiatives strengthening existing programs. The

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1 frightening numbers tell us why. Too many dreams are being

2 destroyed, too many lives are being devastated. And we know

3 they are being devastated in every quarter of society.

4 As compelling as the numbers themselves are, even

5 more compelling are the faces of the young people. I ask you

6 to recall Amy Freeman's story of pain and anguish in her

7 struggle to overcome her addiction. Hers is not a unique

8 experience. Thousands are suffering and struggling every

9 day. Their tragedy should spur us to act, and their triumphs

10 tell us we can succeed.

11 Thank you.

12 (Applause. )

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Between 14 and 25 percent of our

14 young people are dropping out of school. The Task Force on

15 School Dropouts has stated every state dollar invested in

16 educating potential dropouts returns an estimated $9.

17 The governor with the lowest school dropout rate

18 in America, Governor Rudy Perpich.

19 GOVERNOR PERPICH: It's been a privilege to study

20 an issue of great importance to this nation. Success in

21 school has great social and economic implications for

22 individuals and for society as a whole.

23 I belong to a generation that believed education

24 could be a passport from poverty to a life of productivity

25 and opportunity. As a first generation American, I could not

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1 speak a word of English when I entered school at the age of

2 5. But thanks to dedicated teachers, I learned to read and

3 write English, prepare for higher education, a profession and

4 a career in public service.

5 Today, with nearly 1/4 the students in this nation

6 dropping out of school, we must rekindle the expectations

7 that many of our parents around grand parents had for us. We

8 must rekindle the expectation in America that our children,

9 all of our children, will do well.

10 I would like to briefly describe some of the major

11 findings of our task force. I will highlight some of the

12 actions states can take to provide opportunities for many

13 more young people to succeed. We found that a strong

14 correlation exists today between success in school and

15 success in later life. In the future, it will be even more

16 vital for students to succeed in school in order to lead

17 productive lives.

18 In Minnesota, we are fortunate to have a good high

19 school completion rate. It is no accident that we also have

20 the nation's second lowest rate of incarceration. We can see

21 this relationship when we look at the few people who are

22 incarcerated in Minnesota. 60 percent of those individuals

23 never finished high school. Nationally, 2/3 of the people in

24 our nation's prisons are functionally illiterate.

25 The relationship between success in school and

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1 success in later life also shows up when we look at the

2 welfare roles. Half of the long-term users of public

3 assistance in my state are high school dropouts. The cost of

4 this failure is high, both for the individual and for society

5 as a whole.

6 Public assistance paYments may amount to a minimal

7 income for apparent and child. But collectively, these

8 paYments add up to a substantial cost for society. And the

9 costs of our correctional system are even more staggering.

10 In Minnesota, it costs $23,490 to incarcerate an adult male

11 for one year. Far less than that amount, we could support an

12 individual through a year of study at Harvard University.

13 The choices are clear, we can invest in our young people

14 today or pay the consequences later. Governors are in an

15 excellent position to point to the solutions.

16 First, we can help shape public opinion. We can

17 convey the importance of keeping our young people in school,

18 and the certainty that we can accomplish this objective. We

19 can rekindle the expectation that all of our children will do

20 well.

21 Second, as governors, we can move forward with

22 education reform that will increase opportunities for

23 students to learn.

24 Finally, we can make a strong and highly visible

25 commitment to education through our budget priorities.

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1 In what types of efforts should we invest? We

2 have time today to highlight only a few of many different

3 options. Our task force finds that there is no single

4 isolated prevention or intervention effort that works. A

5 range of services must be provided from the prenatal care for

6 mothers to second chance programs for young adults who have

7 dropped out of school.

8 The two main strategies that I would highlight

9 today are these: Provide a variety of alternatives for

10 parental involvement, and utilize technology to teach basic

11 skills.

12 First, I would like to address the role of

13 technology in helping students to succeed. Our task force

14 learned that inadequate basic skills are the strongest

15 predictor of school failure. Many states have found that the

16 skills can be taught more cost effectively, using

17 technology. Using computers, interactive video disk and

18 other devices also give students a sense of mastery and

19 higher self esteem. The Northern Carolina Governors Program

20 allows low-achieving students to work at their own pace at

21 computer terminals with programs designed to meet their

22 individual needs.

23 In Minnesota, I had the opportunity to work with a

24 PALS literacy system developed by IBM. The system has proved

25 to teach reading and writing skills to more students more

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2 conventional classroom setting. Technology has the great

3 potential to reach more students and motivate them to stay in

1 4 school.

5 The other major points I want to stress today deal I 6 with parental involvement. Many studies have shown that

7 children do better when their parents play a role in their

8 education. States promote many avenues for this involvement.

9 One such avenue is early childhood health and

10 developmental screening. Through this testing process,

11 parents can obtain an early understanding of the expectations

12 for their children. Minnesota was in the forefront in

13 beginning the screening in 197; and today, of course, many of

14 the other states have this program. Screening helps parents

15 to know their children's strengths and weaknesses, and so

16 that they may place a child where he or she will enjoy the

17 greatest success.

18 Another way of encouraging parental involvement

19 and monitoring the progress of our children is to make child

20 care available at places where parents work and where parents

21 go to school.

22 We have additional funding in Minnesota this year

23 to provide child care facilities on-site at all of our

24 vocational training centers. This encourages parents,

25 specially single mothers, to get the education they need in

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1 order to get jobs to support their families. We will make a

2 similar push to increase the number of child care centers in

3 our inner-city high schools.

4 For teenage parents, there's a dual benefit to

5 providing child care on-site at schools. It's reported that

6 1 in 4 teenage girls who drops out of school does so because

7 of pregnancy. If child care services are provided, teen

8 parents will be encouraged to complete school. Meanwhile,

9 early prevention and intervention efforts will be provided

10 for the children of these teen parents, offering greater hope

11 for their futures.

12 Finally, states must provide dropouts as potential

13 dropouts with choices with every opportunity to succeed. We

14 cannot afford to lose even one of America's young people if

15 we are to meet the challenges of the future. This year in

16 Minnesota, we enacted what we call High School Graduation

17 Incentives Program. This frees students between the ages of

18 12 and 21 to find learning environments in which they can

19 succeed. A student can select from any secondary school in

20 the state or any schools offering alternative programs.

21 Under legislation passed in 1985, the opportunity also exists

22 for these students to complete their education at post

23 secondary institutions and receive both high school and

24 college credits. We call this the Post Secondary Enrollment

25 Options Program.

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In the first year of this program, 6 percent of

the students participating had earlier dropped out of school.

So we have found that choice empowers students, empowers parents, generates greater parental involvement, promotes better support for schools. Most important, choice promotes better schools and better opportunities for the young people.

All of these are means to greater success for

individual students. There are many other activities states and local school districts can undertake to promote students'

success. Ultimately, however, an individual student must have the will and the desire to learn.

A student must be helped to see the benefits of education, as many of us were helped to see the benefits of education when we were very young. As we heard from individuals at our February meeting and on the video recap of that meeting presented today, students wanted to learn, once they saw the importance of getting a good education and once they saw some hope. They were eager to do something to be somebody.

In Minnesota we have a program that provides that motivation. Our marketing strategy, "be somebody, a star," provides tools to encourage students to adopt positive attitudes and set education and career goals. This is a program that a state, local district or community can use to

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1 help young people succeed.

2 Before you, or they are now distributing a black

3 box containing some of tools of this program, please review

4 them at your leisure and feel free to use them to develop

5 plans for your own state. As governors, we must make sure

6 that there is a commitment to helping every young person to

7 succeed. We owe each of these young people a chance to be

8 somebody, a star.

9 Thank you.

10 (Applause. )

11 (Film played.)

12 (Applause. )

13 GOVERNOR PERPICH: Our marketing program, "be

14 somebody, a star," awards the superstar an Oscar and we

15 believe -- we in Minnesota, at least, believe that you and

16 Hillary, is Hillary here? Where is Hillary? Well, you and

17 Hillary really deserve an Oscar for the good work, very hard

18 work, dedication on behalf of the children and the young

19 people of the nation. This Oscar is presented to you.

20 Hillary is not here, but the two of you together are

21 undoubtedly the superstars in this nation in what you are

22 doing for young people. I am very, very proud to be able to

23 present this to you, to what I believe is the best governor

24 the United States.

25 (Applause. )

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1 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much. Thank you

2 very much, Governor Perpich and all the other task force

3 chairs.

4 Because of Governor perpich's efforts in education

5 and the efforts of the other governors who are working to

6 bring down the barriers, I am pleased to announce today that

7 the council of state planning agencies has provided $180,000

8 to establish a state policy academy for 10 states and

9 Minnesota to teach officials of the states to combat the

10 problem of school dropout. I will congratulate Governor

11 Perpich and all the others of the task force who did such

12 good work.

13 This final report of the Barriers Task Force is a

14 powerful testament to the work that lies ahead of us. It is

15 clear today as it was when we started this effort that

16 America won't work if Americans can't work or learn or

17 believe in the promise of tomorrow. Governors have seen in

18 stark, permanent terms the cost of these barriers not only to

19 those that live in their shadow but to the rest of us as

20 well. We must work to break down those barriers because our

21 capacity to promote economic opportunity, even to preserve

22 our national security, is limited by the incapacity of our

23 fellow citizens. We are all in this together.

24 One of our speakers said that he was raised with

25 the idea that the obligation of our generation was to pass on

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1 to the next a better opportunity than we had, and we do face

2 that prospect that we won't be able to do that. I think what

3 is important to recognize today is that today the opportunity

1 4 of the next generation depends upon, or is the precondition

5 of our own continued opportunity. I 6 In my daughter's public school, they permit the

7 parents to come to lunch everyday and sit at the guest

8 table. I was there the other day having lunch with Chelsea

9 right before the end of the school with a lot of her fellow

10 classmates, some of whom are desperately poor. I was looking

11 at them and thinking, I hope they do better than I have done

12 economically. If you are governor of Arkansas, that's not

13 too tough. But I was also thinking I want them to do well

14 not just for them but for me as well and for all the people

15 of our generation. If they don't learn, not just those who

16 are well born, not just those who have parents who are well

17 educated but all the others as well, we are never going to be I

18 able to be what we ought to be. We will never be able to

19 compete, no matter what else we do.

20 As much as we have to do, it has become clear to

21 me also during this year that government can accomplish

22 little without a reciprocal effort on the part of those in

23 need. Government cannot replace or control that moving force

24 within each individual which causes them to abuse drugs or

25 get pregnant, drop out of school or remain illiterate or on

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t 11 welfare.

2 So government cannot be a savior, but government

3 cannot be a spectator either. We need a government that can

1 4 be a catalyst. One that offers people the right to

5 participate in the American dream in return for their I 6 willingness to assume the responsibilities of citizenship. I

7 believe most of our people are ready do their part to build a

8 new politics based on this very old idea, a social contract

9 between government and the people in which no right can be

10 asserted without a citizen being willing to assume a

11 corresponding responsibility.

12 That idea is at the heart of our welfare reform

13 proposal which requires a person to return for the right to

14 receive benefits to assume the responsibility to move toward

15 independence. It is at the heart of our best education

16 reforms, which require teachers more accountability in return

17 for higher pay; students, more effort in return for more

18 opportunity.

19 The American people want us to work together to

20 take responsibility for our future. They know we share a

21 common commitment to solving these problems. They know that

22 government cannot solve them alone or leave them alone. They

23 know they must do their part. We are making progress, our

24 schools are better, our children are learning more.

25 Manufacturing productivity is up.

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11 But we still have a long, long way go. Our nation

2 remains deeply divided by region, race, age, sex and income.

3 We simply cannot have another five or 10 years in which 40

4 percent of our people grow poorer as 40 percent grow

5 wealthier, in which both prosperity and poverty have a

6 distinct geographical aspect.

7 The states are going to do their part, but we also

8 need an agenda of national unity, committed to these new

9 partnerships which embody neither the uncritical generosity

10 of our past nor the penurious neglect of the president. The

11 principles when have guided the governors in developing the

12 Making America Work Project should be a part of that national

13 agenda of unity.

14 For example, I would argue that the national

15 interest would be served in the area of adult literacy by

16 increasing, not decreasing, student loans, but by requiring

17 at the same time those who have a right to receive them to

18 assume the responsibility of helping adult illiterates to

19 learn to read.

20 I would argue if our Japanese and European friends

21 want us to maintain our economy in a more consumer-oriented

22 manner than theirs, they, in turn, should be willing to spend

23 the vast sums of money they have accumulated on trade to help

24 us refinance the debt of the Latin American countries whose

25 depressed condition accounted for nearly 20 percent of our

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1 trade deficit last year.

2 I close my work on this project with a call to

3 you, all of you, my colleagues, Republicans and Democrats, to

4 get your political parties to address our agenda and its

5 fundamental principles. If we believe the New York

6 stockbroker and the California defense contractor has an

7 interest in common with the pain and promise of farmer in

8 Iowa or unemployed auto worker in Michigan or a poor black

9 southern school child, surely we must believe that what needs

10 to be done is a national question, without any necessary

11 partisan element. If we believe our prosperity and security

12 are threatened by the divisions among us, we must believe in

13 a national unity effort to heal them.

14 So I ask you to unite in a commitment to the

15 future of every individual child in this country whose mind

16 and strength and spirit will determine the way America will

17 walk into the future. I thank you for giving me the chance

18 to work with you this last year to reaffirm my commitment to

19 this country's fundamental principles to have renewed my

20 commitment and faith in the governors and what they can do

21 and to feel very good at the end about the promise of

22 America's future.

23 Thank you very much.

24 (Applause. )

25 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Believe it or not, I lost my

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1 agenda. Hard to move around in the dark without losing

2 something. Some people think that's the story of my adult

3 life.

4 We now move to the consideration of the proposed

5 policy positions. We will have discussion and votes on the

6 revised and new committee policy provisions that were sent to

7 you on July 10th. You have before you these statements plus

8 any amendments made by the standing committees at this

9 conference and any proposals offered under suspension of the

10 rules.

11 To expedite matters, we will vote en bloc on

12 proposals of each committee except where a request is made to

13 consider a proposal on an individual basis. We will proceed

14 in alphabetical order by committee beginning with the

15 Agricultural Committee.

16 Will the standing committee chairman please

17 summarize and move adoption of policy postitions, beginning

18 with Governor Branstad, chairman of the Committee on

19 Agriculture.

20 GOVERNOR BRANSTAD: Governor Clinton, thank you

21 very much. The first thing that I would note is a name

22 change of the committee to Agriculture and Rural

23 Development. We have some changes in policy positions, G-l

24 on global agricultural, trade and development; G-2, strategic

25 management and investment for rural vitality; G-3 is an

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1 update of our agricultural finance policy; G-4, an

2 agricultural research technology and innovation, discussing

3 the opportunities for adding value to the agriculture

4 commodities that we produce in this country; G-5, on a

5 natural resource conservation and management; and G-7 is on

6 agricultural natural disaster management.

7 And I don't think there's a great deal of

8 controversy with this. We have another one that was not

9 recommended out of the committee. I would move the adoption

10 of the proposed policy changes by the Committee on

11 Agriculture and Rural Development.

12 GOVERNOR CLINTON: Is there

13 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: Second.

14 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: The motion has been made and

15 seconded.

16 All in favor?

17 (Chorus of ayes.)

18 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

19 The ayes have it. The policy is adopted.

20 Governor Deukmejian, the chair of the Committee on

21 Criminal Justice and Public Protection.

22 GOVERNOR DEUKMEJIAN: Mr. Chairman, the Committee

23 on Criminal Justice and Public Protection met on Sunday

24 afternoon. We discussed the issues of prison overcrowding

25 and the status of the National Guard on overseas training.

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1 The committee also reviewed its policies pursuant

2 to the directive from this body at its winter meeting. All

3 policies of this committee are current and do not need any

4 revision at this time.

5 Governor Sinner submitted a policy proposal which

6 the committee discussed but decided not to move forward on at

7 this time until further information is obtained.

8 That's the report of our committee. Thank you,

9 Mr. Chairman.

10 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

11 Governor Dukakis, chair of the Committee on

12 Economic Development and Technological Innovation.

13 GOVERNOR DEUKMEJIAN: Mr. Chairman, our committee

14 has also a series of developments that I don't think are

15 controversial, deal with housing issues, especially modular

16 housing, and how we deal with those issues and make modular

17 housing work for decent, affordable housing for families of

18 low or moderate income especially.

19 We have a proposed amendment submitted by Governor

20 Thompson of Wisconsin on rural development which jives very

21 nicely with the work of the Agriculture Committee.

22 We have a proposed amendment urged and supported

23 by Governor Celeste and the entire Committee on Technological

24 Innovation, and especially the role of governors in states in

25 working with the administration, working with the Congress,

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11 as we now embark on what clearly will be a major new national I 2 investment in technology.

3 Principally through the National Science

1 4 Foundation, but also through the Department of Defense and

5 the National Institutes of Health. I can't emphasize too

6 much how important it is for the National Governors

7 Association to work closely with the administration, with the

8 NSF and with the Congress on these issues. The President has

9 recommended a 17 percent increase in the National Science

10 Foundation budget, has signed off on a doubling of the NSF

11 budget for the next five years from $1 billion 7 to $3.27

12 billion. We are talking about a lot of money and a lot of

13 investment in a national network of engineering research

14 centers and centers for technological excellence.

15 While I know many of you are deeply involved in

16 making proposals for the supercollider and superconductor

17 project, don't forget that there's a lot of federal

18 investment that will now be coming down the road in

19 technology generally. We are going to try to establish a

20 clearinghouse with the administration, with the Federal

21 Government, where governors in states will be actively

22 involved in helping to plan, share, take advantage of these

23 opportunities, especially those states with serious economic

24 problems. This resolution deals with that and commits the

25 NGA to working closely with the Administration and the

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1 Congress as we embark on what could well be a whole new

2 chapter in public investment and new technology.

3 Finally, 10 is simply an administrative transfer

4 of responsibility from no-fault insurance to our committee,

5 and one which I do not think is controversial.

6 I would move adoption of all of these policy

7 resolutions, Mr. Chairman.

8 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: Second.

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Motion has been made and

10 seconded.

11 All in favor?

12 (Chorus of ayes.)

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

14 Adopted.

15 Governor Moore, Committee of Energy and

16 Environment.

17 GOVERNOR MOORE: Mr. Chairman, the Committee on

18 Energy and Environment has one more position. These include

19 amendment to our electricity policy, D-15, reflecting the

20 recommendations of our Task Force on Electricity

21 Transmission. This important addition to our policy charts

22 actions that the states can take to ease the development of

23 new electricity transmission lines in order to take advantage

24 of important opportunities for sales of inexpensive

25 electricity from areas like the Midwest where we have a

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1 surplus capacity and to areas in need in our country.

2 Our policies also touch upon other recommendations

3 and changes in the following areas. An amendment to our

4 nuclear energy policy. This amendment reflects the hard work

5 of the Task Force on Nuclear Safety, and I am placed to

6 report to the plenary session, the task force developed total

7 unanimity on the policy position advanced here today.

8 In addition to that, an amendment to our policy on

9 oil and gas to reflect recent changes in the federal law.

10 And thirdly, an amendment to our policy on solid and

11 hazardous waste, making recommendation to the Congress and to

12 EPA on these important programs.

13 We embarked upon a new area of consideration to

14 and perhaps emphasis and concern more importantly to coastal

15 states. But nevertheless, the governors and your committee

16 have advanced for your consideration, new policy on ocean and

17 coastal pollution reflecting the importance of this resource

18 today.

19 And in wanting to keep current the addition we

20 undertook a review of the President's policy positions within

21 the breast of the Energy and Environment Committee. We are

22 recommending several consolidations and deletions of existing

23 policy in the form of technical changes and updates without

24 changes in substance.

25 Mr. Chairman, I move the adoption of these

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11 additions and/or changes of policy en banco

I 2 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Is there a second?

3 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: Second.

1 4 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: All in favor?

5 (Chorus of ayes.)

6 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

7 They are adopted.

8 Governor Castle, chairman of the Committee on

9 Human Resources.

10 GOVERNOR CASTLE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The

11 Committee on Human Resources has covered many important

12 topics this year, from worker adjustment to focus on the

13 first 60 months. I hope you the all got that booklets on

14 that, from education to health to welfare reform.

15 Mr. Chairman let me say I have enjoyed working with you. I

16 feel very good about our accomplishments. Welfare reform

17 will continue to be a priority issue for us, as you all

18 know. And I believe that the governors working together can

19 continue to be the honest brokers of welfare reform.

20 I would like to move policies C-2 and 18 to the

21 committee resolution and a policy update on education and a

22 committee resolution on AIDS, which is a matter of great

23 importance to all of us. Before we make the actual motion, I

24 would ask that Governors Dukakis and DiPrete be recognized

25 for the outstanding work that they have done. I believe they

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1 both want to comment on this after the motion is made.

2 Governor Celeste would also like to comment on the AIDS

3 position. This is not, as we all know, a very easy subject

4 to handle, but it is a subject in which the country has taken

5 a great deal of interest, particularly in more recent months,

6 as the problems have spread in greater on the problems that's

7 come into being.

8 We fortunately have had governors who are thinking

9 in advance of that and are ready to develop and have

10 developed a policy for us which will address this particular

11 issue. With that, I would move the policy en bloc and yield

12 to the others who are the actual authors of the policy.

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

14 Governor Dukakis.

15 GOVERNOR DUKAKIS: Mr. Chairman, thanks to Mike

16 Castle's leadership, and with the very strong leadership of

17 Ed DiPrete and help of Dick Celeste and Tom Kean and other

18 members of the committee, we have produced through the

19 working group on AIDS, which we established over a year ago,

20 what I think is a very strong and very comprehensive

21 resolution. I think Governor DiPrete wants to comment in

22 some detail on it and its importance, and I would defer to

23 him. But I simply want to express my appreciation to the

24 members of the Human Resources Committee, to members of the

25 working group and the staff who worked so hard to produce

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I 11 what is a very strong and, I believe, a very positive

2 governors' position on aids.

3 We have much to do. As all of us know, this is 1 4 the most serious threat to the public health we have had

5 probably in our lifetimes. It is very important that we

6 establish a real partnership with our federal counterparts,

7 with the public health community and the citizens generally

8 with a very strong emphasis of education and

9 confidentiality. That is what the resolution attempts to do,

10 and I know Governor DiPrete, who has been so deeply involved

11 in this, has some comments on his own and I would defer to

12 him.

13 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor DiPrete.

14 GOVERNOR 01 PRETE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

15 This policy that we are considering at the moment

16 is certainly a very strong policy and breaks new ground, I

17 believe, for governors, in this particular area. However,

18 the question of AIDS, and AIDS, as we all know, is always a

19 fatal disease. AIDS recognizes no borders, and I believe

20 this policy, which is -- I would be pleased to say, is an

21 improvement over the one that I first presented in February,

22 working with Governor Dukakis and the other governors and

23 staff individuals. I believe this policy we are considering

24 is comprehensive in scope, I will say it's very strong, will

25 affect not only high risk groups but, as I had suggested

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11 several months ago, I think it was important that we consider

2 the general population, and I believe the policy does exactly

3 that with an emphasis on education and the prevention of

1 4 AIDS. I would certainly encourage approval by my colleagues

5 here today.

6 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

7 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Governor Celeste.

8 GOVERNOR CELESTE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

9 I would like to express my appreciation to

10 Governor DiPrete, who raised this concern at our last meeting

11 and persued it to Governor Dukakis, who chaired a task force

12 on what is an urgent and often controversial subject.

13 I support the policy which was approved yesterday

14 in the Human Resources Committee. I would call attention to

15 my colleagues to one omission in that policy, which I think

16 needs to be a concern of each of us as we confront this

17 matter in our states. And that is the issue of under what

18 ground rules testing occurs. We do not, and I think it's

19 very difficult to come to a consensus on the matter of the

20 need for particularly a focus on voluntary testing, to make

21 that voluntary testing readily available in reliable

22 circumstances through our citizens and to avoid getting drawn

23 into undue controversy about those appropriate circumstances

24 where mandatory testing should occur.

25 I would simply underscore the fact that not only

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1 American Medical Association, Surgeon General, Center for

2 Disease Control, these who are involved professionally in

3 addressing this problem, encourage expanding voluntary

4 testing problems, recognizing the importance of

5 confidentiality, which is underscored in this resolution,

6 ensuring that the screening or testing is not so much used on

7 large general population groups who are at low risk, but

8 targeted to those who are at high risk and where necessary

9 subsidizing the cost of the tests for individuals who can't

10 afford it. I believe that the demand for the expectation for

11 reliable screening is growing. That is going to present a

12 challenge to all of us. We will have our hands full if we

13 run the right kinds of testing programs that are available

14 for people on a voluntary basis.

15 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much.

16 Is there a second to Governor Castle's motion?

17 All in favor?

18 (Chorus of ayes.)

19 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

20 It's adopted.

21 I want to say a word of personal thanks to the

22 chair to Governor Dukakis and task force and a special word

23 of thanks to Governor DiPrete who raised this issue for all

24 of us in February and insisted that we needed to move on it.

25 I would also like to thank all of the physicians and other

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I 11 people from around the country who contributed to the work

2 that resulted in our policy statement. Thank you,

3 especially, Governor DiPrete and Governor Dukakis.

1 4 Governor Baliles, chair of the Committee on Trade

5 and Foreign Relations.

6 GOVERNOR BALILES: Mr. Chairman, the committee

7 proposes three minor amendments to existing policy statements

8 of this association. The first one deals with the promotion

9 and expansion of international trade, minor amendment, simply

10 highlights the importance of the federal role in providing

11 leadership in the world's financial system, highlighting the

12 need to stabilize exchange rates, coordinate monetary and

13 fiscal policy.

14 The second amendment deals with H-6 and simply

15 expresses the strong support of this association for the work

16 and funding of U.S. Travel and Tourism Administration. The

17 third deals with a minor amendment to policy H-l,

18 substituting the most recent statistics on U.S. Trade as it

19 relates to Gross National Product. The Committee's

20 deliberations and recommendations were unanimous and I move

21 that the amendments be adopted.

22 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Second?

23 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: Second.

24 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Comment? Governor Sinner.

25 GOVERNOR SINNER: Mr. Chairman, I want to commend

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1 the committee for including this reference to the federal

2 rule in the exchange rate issue. I am sort of appalled by

3 the fact that speaker after speaker after speaker at this

4 conference has alluded to the difficulty that American

5 production products have had in the world market as a result

6 of the exchange rate problem that has existed for seven

7 years, and yet nothing that I read anywhere suggests a

8 solution. Everyone goes on, the free trade talks go on with

9 Canada, not even addressing the exchange rate problem.

10 I think it may fall, again, to the governors to

11 undertake a special effort to highlight and direct the

12 Federal Government in this area. I hope that in our future

13 work, the Committee on International Trade and Foreign

14 Relations, if it must, will take a look at specific answer to

15 this problem.

16 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much. I agree

17 with that.

18 Anybody else have anything to say about this

19 proposed policy?

20 All in favor?

21 (Chorus of ayes.)

22 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

23 It's adopted.

24 Governor O'Neill, the chair of the Committee on

25 Transportation, Commerce and Communications.

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1 GOVERNOR O'NEILL: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2 We dealt with a number of items on the

3 Transportation Committee. One particular under air

4 transportation led by Governor Jim Thompson, calls for the

5 reauthorization of legislation in Washington as it expires

6 September 30, and proposes diversion of trust fund monies for

7 other purposes, and it supports continuation of essential air

8 services in the country. Under motor carrier safety results

9 of hearings held in Nebraska by Governor Kay Orr and myself

10 in Connecticut, we had six components to effect a national

11 policy of truck safety in the United States. A number of

12 items in those policies called for one driver'S license, of

13 course, and also motor vehicle inspections. Also under motor

14 carrier taxation to promote procedural uniformity across the

15 United States as far as a tax base.

16 That's basically the report, and I therefore move

17 the policy issues collectively.

18 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Is there a second?

19 MR. THOMASIAN: Second.

20 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: All in favor?

21 (Chorus of ayes.)

22 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

23 They are adopted.

24 Governor Orr, what are the Executive Committee

25 policies and updates?

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1 GOVERNOR ORR: Mr. Chairman, there were six policy

2 matters taken up by the Executive Committee; A-4, A-26, A-27,

3 A-28, A-29. And policy updates and technical revisions, a

4 number of policy measures. I would move that all of those be

5 enacted en bloc.

6 GOVERNOR SCHWINDEN: Second.

7 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: It's been seconded. All in

8 favor?

9 (Chorus of ayes.)

10 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

11 They are adopted.

12 I would now to like to call on Governor Kean for a

13 1991 update on education. Governor Kean.

14 GOVERNOR KEAN: A year ago, we gave each other

15 advice on education. Did we take it? We certainly did. The

16 report is called Results on Education, 1987. In a very real

17 sense, everybody in this room around this table wrote it,

18 just as surely as they are writing the nation's education

19 policy every day that goes by. You can't read this report

20 without thinking of people you want to talk about, people

21 around this table who are doing exciting things. You can

22 call Terry Branstad if you are ready for a bold performance

23 in investment in teacher pay. You can talk about Bob Orr

24 about what it takes to lead a comprehensive education reform

25 package. You can look to Rudy Perpich if you really want to

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1 put pressure on schools to perform for young people at risk

2 of failure. Bill Clinton can tell you what it will be like

3 to rethink the school leadership role. If you are ready to

4 go after schools year after year, just fail to teach kids to

5 even read or write, then you can call me.

6 Some people say the American political process is

7 shortsighted, but we don't see that here. What governors are

8 doing for the schools is a compelling expression of faith in

9 the future of America and the future of American children.

10 Governors make the difference, no matter if it's a Democrat

11 or Republican. Governors have made courageous decisions,

12 they've risked political capital, taken on powerful interest

13 groups. And they have done it for the children of this

14 country. Believe me, people notice. They remember, also.

15 Bob Orr, you have proved that in many so ways.

16 Would you like to make a comment?

17 GOVERNOR ORR: Yes, I would, Governor Kean. Let

18 me say quickly that in 1987, Indiana enacted it's A-plus

19 program for educational excellence, which was the most

20 comprehensive education reform package in our history. I do

21 believe the most comprehensive in the nation this year.

22 Really, it was six years of continuing effort, session by

23 session, which was climaxed in 1987.

24 My state of the state message, which was delivered

25 over statewide television in the evening, had the theme that

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1 was essentially the same as the one for this NGA conference,

2 meaning the international competition. I gave out books by

3 David Halverstam to all members and quoted one passage which

4 I will quote now.

5 "In some ways, as America faced the future and

6 prepared to find its place, it was still remarkably blessed.

7 There were, however, two real respects in which America was

8 ill prepared for the new world economy. One was the public

9 school system and the low level of literacy. The other was

10 in terms of expectations. Few Americans were discussing how

11 to marshall the nation's abundant resources for survival in a

12 harsh, unforgiving new world. II

13 To increase our school year from 170 days to 180

14 days was perhaps one of the most difficult accomplishments,

15 and we did do that. We accomplished change and overall

16 change in our educational system to make it accountable to

17 taxpayers who expect better results. Performance of all

18 individuals and schools must be effectively evaluated and

19 rewarded. I believe that we have accomplished that.

20 One use we made of television, really, to scare

21 people, to cause them to awaken with the competition in the

22 world. I would now like to ask it to be shown.

23 (Film showed.)

24 GOVERNOR ORR: That was shown week after week

25 toward the end of the session. We did obtain an increase of

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1 $640 million above an already sizable budget. And if those

2 of you are a bit frightened by the prospect of doing

3 something of that kind, let me simply make the pOint that

4 it's politically wise. During that period, my job approval

5 rating went up 10 percent. Education is popular with the

6 public.

7 GOVERNOR KEAN: Thank you very, very much,

8 Governor Orr.

9 I would like to ask now for Chairman Clinton to

10 make a comment.

11 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much, Governor

12 Kean. I will be exceedingly brief.

13 I have concluded, after two years of studying the

14 whole question of leadership in the schools, that it is still

15 one of the most neglected but most significant issues in the

16 whole matter of educational improvement. We recommend in the

17 1991 report several specific strategies designed to deal with

18 the people who are running the schools, how do we select

19 them, how do we train them, how do we support them, how do we

20 evaluate them. The report reveals that the states have made

21 a great deal of progress in that regard.

22 There is now a second major issue which has to be

23 faced, which is even if you get good people in the schools,

24 what will be the rules for them. Will the state be a problem

25 to them or will the state be an asset? What kind of

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2 leaders and will they work with their teachers in an

3 atmosphere of shared leadership.

4 I wrote this report for the Education Commission

5 of the States, which I released a couple of weeks ago in

6 Denver. If any of you are interested in it, we are going to

7 send it to all of you chief state school officers. I commend

8 it to you, not because it's my work but because it has a

9 whole series of specific examples from across the country

10 documented of schools where leadership is succeeding in

11 stunning fashion because of the rules that have been

12 changed. One of them in Governor Gardner's home state that

13 we deal with quite extensively.

14 I would commend that to you and I would urge you

15 to make sure that in your states you are paying close

16 attention to the issue of leadership, how do you get them,

17 how do you train them, how do you support them, how do you

18 evaluate them. Then how do you give them the environment

19 they need to succeed.

20 Thank you.

21 GOVERNOR KEAN: Thank you, Governor. As I say in

22 the preface to our report, we didn't write this report to

23 celebrate. We are doing well as governors, but we still have

24 a long way to go.

25 Where should we put our energy now? Well, I think

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11 we as governors have to, as we said in our report, get behind I

2 the National Board of Teaching Standards. Governors should

3 lead the way in defining the results, what do we really want

4 our children to know, and how do we get there state by

5 state. Governors should go after schools that fail to

6 educate year after year in spite of reform. Governors should

7 champion programs to educate all Americans to a far higher

8 standard than we do today. These are some of the best bets.

9 But there's a special opportunity, I think, that

10 we have before us right now. I first saw it last winter on

11 the Education Subcommittee, as we translated our experience

12 into a sit of principles to try to guide the United States

13 Congress as it reauthorized Chapter 1. We are now making

14 education policy, we are, as governors; that's where it is

15 happening. State leadership isn't enough. Our economic

16 competitors are acting in exactly the same agenda we follow,

17 but they don't have the muscle we have. They don't have our

18 constitution. They don't have our potential strength and

19 diversity of our people.

20 But to use this competitive advantage, to work

21 together on it, we need each other. Federal action is

22 limited by the deficit. The economies of nearly 1/3 of our

23 states that are here are weak at the moment. Some local

24 school districts have abundant money and ideas but don't know

25 where to go. They all need help.

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I Ii I We all have limits, but we can share a strength

2 that was born of a common purpose. We must join those

31 willing to link the energies of the states and localities to 4 the actions of the Federal Government.

5 We have concentrated our experience into a set of I 6 principles, respecting the states' responsibilities to set

7 high standards and then to follow through. Supporting the

8 focus on schools as a place where results can really count,

9 concentrating on the schools with the greatest needs,

10 supporting and nourishing teachers, rewarding performance and

11 so on.

12 On your behalf, I have asked the Congress to apply

13 those principles in a straightforward manner. We have allies

14 in the Congress who are very willing to work on education

15 matters with the governors. Congress is now asking hard

16 questions on major education programs. Let's try to work

17 with them this fall as they wrestle with these ideas. Let's

18 talk about those districts with the highest proportion of

19 poor and low achieving students.

20 That's where our nation's future lies, for good or

21 for real. In the United States of America, there is no place

22 for an underclass. Over time, we need to concentrate our

23 funds and our energy. That doesn't mean rewarding past

24 failure with more money. We need to combine more money with

25 better tools and absolutely better controls and measurement

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1 on performance. I would offer performance grants only to

2 those low achieving schools that start to get results.

3 Let's start to reward success in education for a

4 change and not reward failure. Let the others who fail try

5 to explain to their people why in spite of more money and

6 more help they weren't able to succeed. I want somebody

7 beside the children to pay the penalty for increased

8 educational failure.

9 This nation has some thinking to do before it's

10 ready to invest in a major way in education at the national

11 level. Invest we must; governors are setting the terms of

12 that discussion, governors are leading the way. Governors

13 are not going to walk away from the schools.

14 I am turning over this chairmanship to Governor

15 John Ashcroft of Missouri. Governor Ashcroft couldn't be

16 here today, but he wanted me to tell you that he will

17 continue to work with you in every way. He asked me to tell

18 you that he will continue forward with time for results, and

19 he is particularly interested in the area of parental

20 involvement. He wants to pursue that more. He wrote me. He

21 said we need to reconnect our families to the schoolhouse.

22 Also, we need to reconnect neighborhoods and

23 communities to the schools. I firmly believe that we cannot

24 enjoy the success we so earnestly desire for education reform

25 unless we gets parents, grandparents and citizens involved

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2 learning for their children.

3 More than 100 years ago, Abraham Lincoln said, on

4 the subject of education, "I can only say that I view it as

5 the most important subject that we as a people can be

6 enjoined in." We believe that today as governors. Nothing

7 is more important. Nothing that we are doing, certainly

8 nothing that Washington is doing, is more important than the

9 education of our children. Because if we fail in that

10 regard, we fail in all other regards also.

11 I congratulate you, the governors of the United

12 States, on what you have done already. I commend you for

13 what you are about in the future. That's my report. Thank

14 you.

15 (Applause.)

16 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Thank you very much, Governor

17 Kean, for the kind of excellent presentation we have almost

18 come to take for granted from you. I would like to take care

19 of a couple of preliminary matters now. First, Governor

20 Sinner has asked me to announce that there will be a 1:15

21 meeting of the Canadian premieres and the governors. We hope

22 all the governors will make every effort to be there on time,

23 because the agenda is tight.

24 Secondly, I would like to propose for unanimous

25 consent a tribute to Secretary of Commerce Malcolm Baldridge,

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1 recognizing that we mourn his passing, that he worked

2 tirelessly to benefit our country and our competitive

3 position which we are dealing with at this conference. He

4 was a great patriot with a high degree of integrity. We will

5 all miss him. If there is no objection, this will be

6 presented to the Baldridge family and Department of Commerce

7 as unanimous resolution of the NGA.

8 NOW, I would like to alter the agenda for a

9 minute. As governors, we don't always have the opportunity

10 to recognize personally individuals who have rendered

11 outstanding service to us as staff. Today, on behalf of my

12 colleagues and the nation's governors, we would like to

13 recognize and honor such an individual. As of this past

14 April, he has served the interests of state government and

15 represented all the 50 states and five territories and the

16 commonwealths that constitute the NGA for 20 years. He came

17 to NGA in April of 1967 as the associate director of the

18 Washington office, the Council of State Governments, and

19 deputy director of the office of State and Federal relations

20 of the National Governors Conference. In March of 1976, he

21 became director of state and local relations. And in 1979,

22 he assumed the responsibility of staff coordinator for state,

23 city and county public interest groups for the Academy of

24 Contemporary Problems. Two years later he returned to the

25 NGA in his current capacity as director of state and federal

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1 relations.

2 On the occasion of the 79th annual meeting of the

3 nation's governors, we want to take this opportunity to

4 express our sincere appreciation for the many years of

5 devoted professional and personal service in fostering,

6 advocating and tirelessly representing policy and legislation

7 which advances the quality of life for the citizens of our

8 country.

9 Therefore, it's with deep gratitude and public

10 recognition that we honor today Jim Martin, NGA's director of

11 State and Federal relations, and Parliamentarian and resident

12 historian, liasison to Washington state and local interest

13 groups, and the only person who has lived in Washington, D.C.

14 for 20 years who still thinks governors are the best public

15 officials in America.

16 Through the years, Jim has brought to his

17 responsibilities a keen sense of understanding and concern

18 for the programs and legislation which protect and provide

19 the best opportunities for human development and dignity

20 through the office of governor. His sense of loyalty,

21 direction and purpose have earned him the respect of all of

22 our chief executives and his peers as well.

23 We just want to say thanks, Jim, for your sense of

24 service which you rendered to all of us for the last 20 years

25 as the charter NGA staff member whose historical perspective

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1 has earned respect and affection. We salute you and thank

2 you for a job well done. And your staying power and love of

31 your fellow man is a real inspiration to all of us. And 4 besides, you have got a good sense of humor.

5 Congratulations.

6 GOVERNOR MARTIN: Mr. Chairman, as the other Jim

7 Martin, I would like to motion my second to the real Jim

8 Martin.

9 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Mr. Martin has never given a

10 speech here because if he even opens his mouth, he will run

11 afoul of these rules he has hung us up all these years, which

12 has thoroughly prevented us from doing anything interesting

13 at these plenary sessions. You have to say at least two

14 sentences.

15 MR. MARTIN: I fully believe that the basic policy

16 of the National Governors Association is a governor is a

17 governor is a governor. I really appreciate the privilege of

18 working with the governors of the United States, and that

19 is -- it grows year after year. I am absolutely convinced

20 with your 2/3 rule requiring your votes on policy, that when

21 2/3 of the nations's governors agree on an issue, that that

22 is the next best step for the nation. It's a privilege to

23 work for you in that regard. Thank you very much.

24 (Applause.)

25 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: I would now like to calIon

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I 1i I Governor Celeste for a brief word about our next summer's

2 meeting in Cincinatti.

3 GOVERNOR CELESTE: Thank you, very much.

4 Mr. Chairman, I think Michigan and Traverse City have been

5 fabulous, I know you will say more about that. Governor

6 Blanchard, you have been terrific. It will take me quite a

7 while to recover from the Motown Review, but hopefully by

8 next year this time I will be fully recovered and in

9 Cincinatti to greet all of you at what will be the 80th, I

10 don't know whether it will be the 80th, but the next annual

11 meeting when we have family all together, be prepared for

12 chili five ways, as Cincinatti only can do it, Pete Rose and

13 all that goes with it. It's going to be a good time for the

14 governors and for your families. I will give you detailed

15 instructions on how to take full advantage of our meeting in

16 Cincinatti at the winter meeting. I will look forward to

17 seeing you.

18 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: Mr. Chairman, did he say

19 chili five ways? New Mexico over here. Did he say something

20 about chili five ways?

21 GOVERNOR CELESTE: You have got to come,

22 Governor.

23 GOVERNOR CARRUTHERS: I will challenge that, man,

24 we will bring our chili cooks to Cincinatti. We will give

25 you seven ways.

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1 GOVERNOR CELESTE: Please do.

2 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Maybe we should have a chili

3 cookoff in Cincinatti.

4 I have three minutes to make, in this little

5 agenda, to make my concluding remarks. I have already said

6 substantively what I would like to say. I would like to say

7 a few things in a very personal way about what has been one

8 of the most rewarding years of my life. First of all, when

9 it's all said and done and I look back on the years I spent

10 in public service, I think that knowing so many governors and

11 understanding what they are trying to do and how deeply

12 committed they are to doing what is best for the people of

13 the country is one thing that I will always count as one of

14 the richest experiences I have ever had.

15 Second thing I would like to do is thank you for

16 taking these issues seriously. I noticed that our making

17 America work report made the front page of one of our

18 country's distinguished newspapers, something that would not

19 have happened a few years ago. I went up to the reporter and

20 I thanked him for taking this business as seriously as all of

21 you do. I am grateful for that. I appreciate it. I know

22 you all have other things to do, yet you come here

23 consistently year in and year out to try to make a

24 difference.

25 I would like to think Governor Sununu for being

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1 such a good vice chairman. When we got on this boat

2 together, people made all kinds of cracks. I made a few

3 jokes at the opening conference, we were as different as

4 night and day.

5 I am Democrat, he is Republican. He's got eight

6 kids and I have one. I have taxes and he has liquor and

7 lottery. People said we would never see the same facts the

8 same way. You can never assume people will see the same set

9 of facts the same way. The Motown Review last night reminded

10 me of the story I heard about two dogs who were watching a

11 bunch of kids break dancing. One of the dogs looked at the

12 kids and said, you know, if we did that they would worm us.

13 You can never assume things will come out the same.

14 (Laughter. )

15 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: But he has been so good to me

16 and good for our association. I really look forward to being

17 a good soldier during his year as chairman.

18 I would like to thank the NGA staff. I gave them

19 a whole lot of extra work to do, and they did it without

20 complaining, at least within my hearing. I would like to

21 thank my staff. They sure had a lot of work to do. We had

22 an election, Education Commission of the States, two

23 legislative sessions. They did a good job. I appreciate all

24 of that.

25 Let me just say in closing that, to follow up on

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11 something Jim Martin said, we do have this 2/3 rule. We also

2 have practical people who without regard of party have to

3 deal with the stark and you human problems of our people and

4 the exhilarating possibilities. I meant what I said, I think

5 we should try to put these issues that we have worked so hard

6 to work through, on education, human development, economic

7 development, on the national agenda.

8 It would be good for the country if they wound up

9 on the national agenda of both parties. Because when I was a

10 kid growing up in the '50s, we were all dealing with the cold

11 war. A lot of you will remember this. The common parlance.

12 was that politics had to stop at the water's edge. One of

13 the most difficult things about the path we steered with the

14 Vietnam war was dealing with that first question about

15 whether it was all right for anybody ever to criticize the

16 foreign policy of the country. Because in those early years

17 after World War II, we perceived that our security was so

18 caught up in dealing with the cold war that all the political

19 discussion and differences and partisan differences had to be

20 concentrated on domestic issues.

21 Today it seems to me that our security is so

22 dependent on our ability to compete in the world by

23 developing the abilities of our people. None of us should be

24 ashamed to say it would be a good thing for our country if

25 both parties adopted the positions that we have advocated and

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1 enshrined the values that we have tried to hold up. I hope

2 that all of you will do that.

3 I hope you will give me the chance, whenever I

4 can, to make up to you for the opportunity you have given to

5 me to have one of the best, most enjoyable years of my life.

6 And finally I would like to say a special word of thanks to

7 Governor Blanchard. Governor Dukakis may go to the White

8 House, but last night with Junior Walker and the Four Tops, I

9 was just one step from heaven.

10 (Applause. )

11 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: I have to call now on Governor

12 Moore for the report of the Nominating Committee and the

13 election of the officers and the Executive Committee.

14 GOVERNOR MOORE: Mr. Chairman, for and on behalf

15 of the Nominating Committee, Governor Branstad of Iowa,

16 Governor Harris of Georgia, Governor Bryan of Nevada and

17 Governor Martin of North Carolina, we submit this following

18 report and move its adoption, that the nominations for the

19 1987-88 executive committee be as follows: Governor Bill

20 Clinton with saxaphone in hand from Arkansas; Governor Robert

21 Orr of Indiana; Governor of Michigan;

22 Governor Ted Schwinden of Montana; Governor Tom Kean of New

23 Jersey; Governor Norman Bangerter of Utah; Governor Madeleine

24 Kunin of Vermont. As the new and incoming vice chairman,

25 Governor Gerald Baliles of Virginia, and as the new chairman

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1 of the NGA, Governor John H. Sununu of New Hampshire.

2 I move the adoption of the report of the

3 nominating committee, Mr. Chairman.

4 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Is there a second?

5 GOVERNOR CELESTE: Second.

6 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: All in favor?

7 (Chorus of ayes.)

8 CHAIRMAN CLINTON: Opposed?

9 The committee's recommendations are unanimously

10 accepted.

11 It is my pleasure now to present to you your new

12 chairman of the National Governors' Association,

13 distinguished Governor of New Hampshire, John Sununu.

14 (Applause. )

15 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Stay here a minute, Bill.

16 Certainly what has been accomplished this past year is a very

17 important result for the governors of the country. It comes

18 about not by accident but because somebody led them well.

19 There's been a lot said today about your effectiveness. I

20 would also like to stress that one of the aspects I have

21 admired and certainly I think serves as a model has been a

22 style and a capacity of dealing with colleagues to get

23 results. I want to commend you for that.

24 I would be remiss if I didn't note that your seven

25 colleagues in the party that you represent should feel very

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1 happy and comfortable that you have chosen to relax in 1988.

2 I guarantee you both the style and effectiveness that you

3 carry would have played very well in New Hampshire.

4 On behalf of all of the governors, having said

5 that, I would like to present this plaque to you as something

6 that will remind you that your colleagues appreciate what you

7 have done, recognize what you have done as a model to be

8 emulated, and certainly wish you and your family nothing but

9 the best -- but the best and the West.

10 (Applause. )

11 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Before I get into any formal

12 remarks, I must add my thanks to Governor Blanchard and

13 everyone here, not just in Traverse City, but Governor

14 Blanchard's staff and all the citizens of Michigan, both for

15 their hospitality and really for the quality of this

16 experience, which I think for all of us, as governors, and as

17 governors with families, has been really one of the nice,

18 nice events that I have had the opportunity and all the other

19 governors have had the opportunity to share with our

20 colleagues. We appreciate it. Last night was a high point,

21 but the whole event has done professionally. We do

22 appreciate what you have done, Jim.

23 I have also been asked to recognize Governor

24 Collins of Kentucky for a few minutes before we go into any

25 formal acceptance. Governor Collins.

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I 11 GOVERNOR COLLINS: Thank you. I just want to take

2 this opportunity to tell all of you, I guess an official

3 goodbye, to tell you how proud I am of this group and how

1 4 proud I am to have been a part of this group. I wish

5 everyone the best and the future.

6 This is my last NGA meeting, because in Kentucky

7 you can't succeed yourself. So you will be having a new

8 governor from the Commonwealth of Kentucky at your next

9 meeting.

10 I want to commend all of you all, of course

11 Governor Clinton and everyone who has worked so hard in

12 giving me the opportunity to work with you for the betterment

13 of our people.

14 Thank you and God bless you all.

15 (Applause. )

16 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Thank you, Governor Collins. As

17 Governor Clinton indicated the other day, we suspect you

18 might be back as a member of his renowned phoenix club of

19 governors who go out, come back after missing a little bit of

20 a beat.

21 I would like to tell you all how much I

22 appreciate, how much I am honored to accept this chairman of

23 the National Governors' Association. I want you to know that

24 I accept it with sincere appreciation to each and everyone

25 of you for providing an opportunity that I think is unique

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11 and certainly one that, I guarantee you, I accept with an

2 enthusiasm particular commitment to reflect the positive and

3 constructive bipartisan approach that I think has been the

4 hallmark of this association.

5 As all of you do, I love my job as governor. I

6 can't think of anything I would rather do than be governor of

7 the state of New Hampshire. In that role, one of the most

8 gratifying and rewarding experiences, the most satisfying

9 experiences, has been the shared activities I have had as

10 governor with my fellow governors. Any success that anyone

11 might anticipate in accepting the responsibilities of a

12 chairmanship to an organization has to be built on the

13 foundation established by predecessors. I am very mindful of

14 the significant contributions made by those chairmen that I

15 have had an opportunity to serve with and to serve under in

16 the past. Governor Mathison, Governor Thompson, Governor

17 Carlin, Governor Alexander, and in particular, I want to

18 reiterate my acknowledgement of the understanding

19 contribution and the leadership role played by Governor Bill

20 Clinton this past year.

21 His leadership has focused the examination of our

22 national capacity to compete, and that leadership has

23 produced a very significant set of proposals and guidelines

24 for addressing how best we as a nation can use the resources

25 of our great population. Under Bill Clinton's direction, we

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2 move the less advantaged of our society from a role of

3 dependency to one where they can be productive, contributing

4 members. I do believe that the successes of this

5 organization under his leadership and those contributions

6 contained in the reports and the activities of governors

7 across the country will be major contributions to our shared

8 commitment to keep America great.

9 Over the next year, our country will be

10 celebrating the 200th anniversary of the writing and the

11 ratification of our constitution. As our citizens

12 participate in that celebration, I think we have an

13 opportunity to review and to reconsider, and, in fact, to

14 renew the fundamental principles that framed the debates that

15 created that constitution. We will have an opportunity to

16 examine the give-and-take of the delicate compromise that

17 established a unique governing structure and unique set of

18 relationships that have served the nation and our states well

19 over the past 200 years.

20 As those historic discussions are reviewed, I

21 anticipate, at least from the perspective of a governor, that

22 one clear and critical balance that was very carefully

23 crafted in that constitution will stand out. There was a

24 very careful effort to provide some strength in a central

25 government, while retaining effective authority and

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1 preservation of rights within the states. And that debate

2 occupied a great deal of the difficult exchanges in

3 Philadelphia in 1787. It was a sensitive compromise and that

4 compromise was specifically reaffirmed in the Bill of Rights

5 and the 10th Amendment.

6 The other evening we as governors were eating

7 dinner at a very nice setting on the lake. Governor

8 Blanchard spoke, and he noted that as governors with our

9 legislatures, we do make sure that we have programs which

10 actually determine the quality of life and the constructive

11 destiny of our citizens. We work hard to make sure that

12 those programs work well. He noted that issues such as

13 education, economic development, job creation and job

14 training, quality of health service and even our social and

15 welfare assurance programs, are all made more effective by

16 and within our own states.

17 Paradoxically, at the same time that we are

18 becoming aware of a heightened role and responsibility for

19 our states, I think we as governors, and I think more and

20 more our citizens, are becoming well aware and sensitive to

21 the fact that there has been a long-term and drastic erosion

22 of the basic state authority. We carry responsibility to

23 govern our states, and with our state legislators we fulfill

24 specific duties to our citizens.

25 But unfortunately, the carefully crafted and the

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! 11 planned balance between the states and the Federal Government

2 that came out of Philadelphia has, over the years, been

3 tilted to a drastic overcentralization of power in

4 Washington. The fundamental federalism structure as

5 understood by the framers of our constitution was based on a

6 clear recognition that the authority of the Federal

7 Government, the national government extended to only a few

8 enumerated powers. That authority not delegated by the

9 states to the Federal Government were explicitly denied to

10 the states by the constitution was reserved to the states,

11 from the very first days following the ratification of our

12 Constitution. There's been a constant erosion, steadily

13 nibbling, if you will, by the Federal Government, through

14 Congress and the federal courts, that that delicate

15 relationship which was so careful framed and so carefully

16 balanced.

17 That drift in a sense, that change in the basic

18 character of our federalism structure reached a point wherein

19 the Supreme Court's decision excluding the authority of both

20 the municipality and the state in the Garcia case, made clear

21 that there remains virtually no rights reserved to the

22 states.

23 In fact, the decision in the Garcia case was, in

24 effect, a complete rescission or a completion of the

25 rescission process of the 10th Amendment separation of

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I 11 powers. That loss represents not only fundamental change,

2 but what I believe is a rejection of one of the basic

3 ingredients that made our system so effective. The resulting

4 exclusive concentration of authority and power does not serve

5 this country well.

6 Many of our efforts in the National Governors

7 Association in recent years have been directed to influence a

8 restoration of an appropriate federalism balance. They have

9 not always been successful. However, any frustration that we

10 might feel of the limited impact of past attempts should not

11 keep us from continuing our efforts and focusing some

12 resources in that direction. Therefore, the focus that I

13 have selected for the coming year will be to try and build on

14 what I hope will be the increased citizen sensitivity and

15 awareness to our constitutional heritage.

16 That understanding should make it clear that it is

17 in the nation's interest to restore a balanced separation of

18 powers and return to the states the rights and authority

19 originally envisioned in our constitution.

20 You all will be receiving correspondence outlining

21 the details of a broad agenda based on three parallel efforts

22 to restore that balance. The first effort includes a call to

23 each governor to identify specific changes in federal rules

24 and regulations which would allow us within the states to

25 improve the quality of service and the efficiency and the

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1 effectiveness of what we do for our citizens.

2 That effort, which will probably be based on

3 interaction with our departments and agencies, is intended to

4 be a more intense examination of the initial recommendations

5 we gave to the Federal Government last year and which, in

6 fact, the Administration did give us a quick and constructive

7 response about 2/3 of the requests that we made have been, in

8 general, acceded to.

9 In concert with that effort, I will ask our

10 standing committee structure to examine in detail the

11 existing federal legislation in each of the areas of

12 responsibilities to the standing committees and to identify

13 very specific changes in federal legislation which could

14 improve our capacity to serve our citizens.

15 Finally, the third segment will be undertaken by a

16 task force on federalism, which will be charged to examine

17 and, if appropriate, to develop a bold, direct, overall

18 approach at restoration of the balance.

19 I assume that this task force will examine a range

20 of alternatives, including umbrella legislation at the

21 federal level or even suggesting a federal constitutional

22 amendment.

23 I am confident that a significant bipartisan

24 effort on our part can make an impact on this basic

25 federalism issue.

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1 As we all know, that impact, that shifting of

2 authority and capacity back to the states, would have a real

3 long-term significant benefit to the people of this country.

4 A couple of nights ago, at that same dinner on the

5 lake, Roger Smith, the chairman of General Motors

6 Corporation, quoted James Madison on what was the intention

7 of the constitutional compromise. Madison said: "The powers

8 delegated by the proposed constitution to the Federal

9 Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in

10 the state governments are numerous and indefinite. The

11 former will be exercised principally on external objects as

12 war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. The powers

13 reserved to the several states will extend to all objects

14 which in the ordinary course of affairs concern the lives,

15 liberties and properties of the people and the internal

16 improvement and prosperity of the states."

17 Those distinctions are why we as governors are on

18 the firing line. We meet with our citizens daily, we see

19 them daily, their problems are our problems and we must make

20 on a daily basis difficult and decisive decisions.

21 As Madison noted, "on those issues critical to our

22 citizens the most responsive government is the one closer to

23 the people."

24 We, and our constituents, have always recognized

25 the capacity of states to serve the most effective role of

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1 all our government institutions. Once again, I believe we

2 governors must take the lead in addressing that challenge.

3 I have a feeling that this time, with your help,

4 we can and will succeed. Thank you all very much for this

5 opportunity to serve.

6 (Applause.)

7 GOVERNOR 5UNUNU: Thank you. I have a couple of

8 announcements to complete the formality of this meeting. The

9 first is to communicate to you the committee assignments. We

10 have tried very hard, and with the help and cooperation of

11 incoming Chairman Baliles, and I hope that Jerry and I

12 continue the great chemistry that Bill Clinton and I have put

13 together, I am sure it's going to happen that way. We have a

14 copy of the committee structures, which we will give you

15 before you leave. I hope you understand that in an effort to

16 get something to you now today, we had to trade-off a little

17 bit in terms of time and finality of these assignments.

18 50 what we have given you is, in essence, a 99

19 percent sure, but not absolutely final structure, but

20 something we can begin to work with. Let me announce a few

21 of them, so that you will have some point of reference to

22 leave with.

23 There will be the Task Force on Federalism, which

24 I will, as chairman, continue to chair. The Task Force on

25 Rural Development will be chaired by Governor Branstad of

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1 Iowa. The lead governors on welfare reform will be Governor

2 Bill Clinton and Governor Mike Castle of Delaware. The lead

3 governors for out-of-state sales tax collections will be

4 Governor Thompson of Illinois.

5 The Committee on Agriculture and Rural Development

6 will be chaired by Governor Sinner of North Dakota and

7 Governor Ashcroft of Missouri. The Committee on Criminal

8 Justice and Public Protection will be chaired by Governor

9 Deukmejian of California; Governor Casey of Pennsylvania will

10 be the vice chairman. Committee on Economic Development and

11 Technological Innovation will be chaired by Governor DiPrete

12 of Rhode Island, and vice chair will be Governor Romer of

13 Colorado.

14 The Committee on Energy and Environment will be

15 chaired by Governor Moore of West Virginia, and vice chairman

16 will be Governor Joe Frank Harris of Georgia. The Committee

17 on Human Resources will be Governor Castle of Delaware, with

18 Governor Celeste of Ohio as vice chairman. The Committee on

19 International Trade and Foreign Relations will be chaired by

20 Governor Gardner of Washington, and Governor Martin of North

21 Carolina will be the vice chairman. The Committee on

22 Transportation, Commerce and Communications will be chaired

23 by Governor O'Neill of Connecticut, and Governor Kay Orr of

24 Nebraska will be the vice chairman.

25 One point on the committee assignments, which is

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1 included in the cover letter, but I would like to stress

2 here. All the assignments were based primarily on first and

3 second choices as expressed by the governors. You will

4 notice that one committee, the Committee on Economic

5 Development and Technological Information, is extremely large

~ 6 on that basis. I would just ask that those of you that might

7 have sought that assignment might take a look at it. If you

8 feel comfortable, you might indicate to us a preference for

9 reassignment to one of the other committees which is a

10 little -- which may be a little bit smaller and might address

11 specific interests that you have.

12 Having said that, the last announcement is that

13 the executive committee will be meeting after the press

14 conference in room Peninsula B, and with that, Governor Orr.

15 GOVERNOR ORR: Mr. Chairman, a little noted

16 element of this morning's proceedings is the departure from

17 the Executive Committee of one of the governors who has

18 served in that capacity for nine years.

19 I refer to our colleague, Jim Thompson. It seemed

20 appropriate to me to call everyone's attention to the fact

21 that he has declined to continue to serve on that important

22 committee, and we should recognize his great service, his

23 important, strong efforts for all things good that that

24 organization has accomplished over that nine years of his

25 service.

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1 (Applause.)

2 GOVERNOR SUNUNU: Governor, obviously all of us

3 agree to that. I assure you we will try to take full

4 advantage of Governor Thompson's long, long, long years of

5 service as governor and As a member of this organization.

6 Is there anything else anyone cares to bring up

7 before adjournment? If not, he will entertain a motion to

8 adjourn.

9 Seconded?

10 Thank you very much. We look forward to seeing

11 you in Washington in February and Cincinatti next summer.

12 (Whereupon, at 12:50 p.m., the meeting was

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