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Broughton, a Senior Consultant to Brunswick, for- who are making the biggest contribution to steering rate would be so much higher than in a flu out- time. You have to make sure you’re getting a decent mer New York and Paris Bureau Chief for the Daily through a crisis. break. That’s what has led to the pressure on all these night’s sleep, you’re getting some exercise, you’re eat- Telegraph and the author of best-selling books. In a democracy, you can’t avoid the head of gov- healthcare systems. ing healthily and regularly. ernment—the central decision maker. One thing I Quite often I find political and business leaders How is it running a daily newspaper these days? was constantly reminded of in government was that How do you sustain energy and morale on a team remain frenetic and can’t spot the ebbs and flows This pandemic is the biggest story of our lifetimes every one of the most difficult decisions is elevated under intense pressure? of when they really do need to be up all night, and and there is an enormous amount of public interest to the Prime Minister. If they were easy decisions, For the people at the top of government, it is incred- when now’s a night you can actually go to bed. Obvi- in getting authoritative facts and analysis. But there’s by their very nature, they wouldn’t have reached the ibly exhausting and challenging. But this is also, ously you get completely burned out. I saw it happen also the real business challenge of the precipitous fall Prime Minister’s table. Some of the burden can be frankly, the defining moment of their careers. If a lot in politics, people work absolutely flat out, then in advertising revenues. It’s both a great opportunity shared by people like the Chancellor, but essentially you talk to the people who were directly involved in get frazzled, and they’re no use to anyone. and a big challenge. the PM is left with the hardest calls. the financial crisis, they will now say that those few We’ve responded in two ways. First, we’ve had to Usually there’s also the head of the civil service. months in 2008-9 were the high point of their career. How has the British government handled this reduce costs. We’ve put some of our staff on a fur- The late Jeremy Heywood in the UK was the out- They may not have felt it at the time, when they were Days before presenting crisis? lough scheme, and we’re making sure we’re as effi- standing example of this. overworked and faced enormous pressures, but it budget to Parliament in Britain is in the middle of the pack, I would say, of March 2016, Osborne cient as we possibly can be. “THEY WON’T Obviously in this kind of crisis, you’re also relying was also the moment they could make the biggest visiting a construction the Western countries. It has clearly been better than Second, we have reshaped the newspaper to cover on your public health officials, your chief scientific contribution to the well-being of their societies. And site in central London. many. It has the advantage of a public healthcare sys- the Covid-19 crisis and dramatically changed the THINK OF THIS advisors, who usually wouldn’t have anything like tem so it can direct the nation’s healthcare in a way distribution. We used to hand out copies at Tube sta- NOW, BUT this kind of access to the PM. In ordinary times, they in which, for example, the US with its fragmented tions but people aren’t using the Tube. Now we’ve might see the Prime Minister once or twice a year. healthcare system cannot. switched to hand delivering copies of the newspaper FOR THE PEOPLE A big challenge for government is that you can’t But now it has announced all these schemes to to homes across London. We’re also seeing traffic up AT THE HEART be entirely led by the science. Scientists are making deal with the problems, it can’t keep announcing on the online platform. This is just accelerating the a very important judgment, which is how you tackle more schemes. You have to deliver, otherwise you’ll merging of our print and digital operations. OF THE COVID-19 the disease. But politicians and officials have to bal- undermine confidence in what you’re doing. CRISIS, THIS IS ance that with other judgments like what is sustain- There’s a legitimate debate about whether Britain, What do you imagine it’s like in ? able for the economy, or acceptable to society. You like other countries, was too slow to move to quar- Downing Street is a very small building. Even though THE GREAT could imagine a piece of scientific advice which antine and to adopt the strategy of trying to halt the you’re part of a broad network of the state with thou- MOMENT OF THEIR would be to let the elderly and the sick die so you spread of the disease altogether. But that will be for sands of people working in departments and differ- can concentrate your resources on the young. But no the wash-up afterwards. ent arms of the government, ultimately the decision CAREERS. civilized society could make that judgment. What’s clear is that this is an absolutely defining making comes down to a very few people in that very TO USE THE Expert opinion should certainly inform any deci- event for all governments. Many will be casualties of small building. sion, but ultimately the political leaders in a democ- it. Recessions and crises like these lead to changes of There will be intense pressure on the political and HACKNEYED racy are balancing various judgments, and the group government. Probably not in the UK, because we’ve official leadership. And they’ve got the additional PHRASE, helping them with this is very small. just had an election, but in many other places, I sus- human toll, which I never had, of infection and pect, there’ll be regime change. self-isolation. THIS IS WHAT How does government prepare for these kinds of crises? when they were required to be as innovative and In 2015, when George What differences have you noticed in the THEY TRAINED Osborne was Chancellor What’s the government’s biggest communica- The government I was part of had a risk register flexible as possible. They won’t think of this now, but response of government and business? of the Exchequer and tion challenge? FOR.” which we’d regularly interrogate. It was a grid show- for the people at the heart of the Covid-19 crisis, this was Mayor Events like this remind you of the power of govern- Trying to get the balance between reassuring people ing a combination of the risk of a particular event is the great moment of their careers. To use the hack- of London, the pair ment compared to the power of an individual busi- delivered a joint speech that you have a plan and a path through, whilst at happening with how damaging it would be. Top of neyed phrase, this is what they trained for. at the Tate Modern, ness, which is only as strong as its balance sheet. the same time not giving false hope and promis- the risk register was a nuclear war, which govern- outlining a long-term plan This virus has struck different business sectors in ing things that can’t be delivered. Governments get ments still do some planning for, though not nearly How do you stay level-headed? for the city’s economic this completely random way. An otherwise healthy, future. themselves into all sorts of trouble when they over- so much as 30 or 40 years ago. Then there are events Inevitably, in the first couple of weeks of a crisis, exceptionally well-run travel business now finds promise and under-deliver. like flooding, a solar flare, a fuel strike, all sorts of there is a physical toll. You have to get through an itself in a critical position. Whereas a badly run At the moment, I would be erring on the side of things like that. There’d be rigorous and regular enormous amount of material and make a huge chemical company which happens to make hand caution, explaining to people what we don’t know as assessments of the register. Pandemic flu was very number of decisions. You have to be realistic that sanitizer finds itself in a very good position. well as what we do, and not promising either time- high up on the register. So it is not true that no one you’re going to be using most of the hours of the day Businesses tend to be narrowly focused on what lines that can’t be delivered or exit strategies that don’t in the British government had done anything to to do that. the management can deliver, the costs of the busi- exist or help that is not about to imminently arrive. think about this. Governments have had stockpiles What’s crucial is spotting the moment after you’ve ness, the income, and I guess for better businesses, of protective equipment. But clearly, it’s self-evident, made the initial decisions when you have to figure concern for their workforce. Who really makes the decisions at times like this? not enough thinking had gone into this. out how to pace yourself. The absolute key to staying A government has so many more consider- In any organization, and government is no different, Looking back in a lot of countries, we hadn’t really sane and making sensible decisions is knowing that ations—very many more stakeholders and at the

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brunswick review · 2020 brunswick review · 2020 GEORGE OSBORNE doesn’t have that narrow concern about the balance because the crisis has come so quickly, what you sheet. You can see the way central banks and Treasur- want from your political leaders is candor about the ies have massively expanded their balance sheets. situation, not false hope that there’s any easy route Provided governments can maintain the confi- through this or it’s all about to come to an end. But dence of financial markets, they can deploy incredi- at the same time you want hope that there is a path ble resources—but if they lose that confidence, as you through and that government will be deployed in saw so many countries do after the financial crisis, “FOR brand new ways. then like any badly run business they face bankruptcy. CORPORATES Will this lead to greater international cooperation What will be the consequences for business? WHO ARE or greater mistrust? Businesses are going to have to look at their balance The striking difference between this crisis and the sheets. Investors are going to ask, what is the strength RESCUED global financial crisis is the lack of international of those balance sheets in a crisis? What are the cash AND BAILED OUT, coordination and the high degree of mistrust. reserves? You’re going to end up with these fortress During the global financial crisis, there was lots balance sheets. Certainly in the short- to medium- THE PRICE WILL of coordination between central banks, the G20 and term after this crisis, you will see a big suspicion of HAVE TO international institutions like the IMF. You see almost over-leveraged companies. none of that now. The G20 is completely irrelevant. It’s quite similar to the banking crisis. The banks BE STRONGER There has been some central bank coordination but fell over. They were rescued. After that, they were BALANCE not much. And of course, unlike in 2009, when the required to hold very large amounts of capital. All the cooperation between the US and China was critical, people in the industry who complained that regula- SHEETS.” with China stepping in to help the global economy, tors and politicians like myself were demanding too now you have a war of words between the two. much of the banks can now look at this present cri- Unfortunately, international cooperation has sis and thankfully the banks are in a relatively strong been almost entirely lacking. Countries have tended position precisely because they have these reserves. to adopt their own economic and health solutions to I think the same thing will happen in the broader the problem. In the future, what you’ll see is coun- corporate sector. For corporates who are rescued tries essentially building out their resilience, creating and bailed out, the price will have to be stronger bal- domestic supply lines for key chemicals and testing ance sheets. They will have to show they can oper- kits, and ventilators and protection equipment, and ate with zero income for longer than they are clearly acting more quickly to shut borders. able to at the moment. Clearly, it should be self-evident that this is a global crisis, which shows no country is an island. What are the most relevant historical parallels to Everyone is affected in much the same way. I suspect, today? the actual result will be countries thinking they can Plagues and pandemics are actually fairly regular isolate themselves from future episodes like this. occurrences in human history. It’s amazing when philip delves broughton you read historical accounts, like Samuel Pepys on is a Senior Consultant to You’re a passionate Londoner. What’s it like see- the plague in London in the 17th century, how simi- Brunswick, based in New ing your city under siege? York. He was previously lar the issues are: the pressure on the authorities to London has been through a hell of a lot: plagues, a Senior Adviser to the close down activity; the strain that puts on the indi- Executive Chairman of Great Fires, the Blitz. It’s pretty eerie going around viduals being confined; what do you do when people Banco Santander. His books seeing how everything is shut in London just as in are defying the quarantines. There’s the reassurance have appeared on The New these other great cities like New York. But London York Times and Wall Street that these are not new issues. will come back. It always does. Journal bestseller lists. He An interesting model is Franklin Roosevelt. In his is a former Financial Times If I was looking for a silver lining, I’d say that in first inaugural address, he is very candid with the columnist, and former Daily the street where I recently moved, one of my neigh- American people. He does not promise the Great Telegraph bureau chief in bors celebrated their birthday. I didn’t even know New York and Paris. He has Depression will be over immediately. But he offers who this neighbor was. But the whole street came collaborated with corporate vigorous leadership and is innovative in getting the and non-profit leaders at out and raised a glass. There was this incredible com- bureaucracy of the US government to think differ- firms including Blackstone, munity spirit in a street where I barely knew anyone. ently about how to help the American public. You Apple and Goldman Sachs. In these rather anonymized cities, like London and He has a Masters Degree end up with enormous schemes to keep people at New York, one of the amazing paradoxes of every- from Oxford University in work, to rescue banks, to support businesses. Classics and an MBA from one being forced to stay at home is perhaps we are Although this is a more condensed timetable now Harvard Business School. becoming stronger and greater communities. u

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