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A Service of Continuing Education and Extension - lm University of Minnesota, DL:Jluth VO~. 1, NUMBER 8 JUNE 1980

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I SUPPORT PUBLIC the Listener RADIO Reoort Airwaves is a monthly publication of WDTH-FM, the public radio station at the University of Minne- MARATHON! to be sure that we weren't going coming months, and it could set the sota. Duluth. A yearly membership anywhere. stage for a renovation of our space in the in WDTH costs just $20. Member- Two hundred sixty-three new members future. ship entitles you to receive "Air- and 90 members ofWDTH from the fall It's impossible to stay disappointed waves" mailed directly to your marathon pledged $6,500 to WDTH with someone like that in your corner, SENIORS PROJECT home. during our pledge weekend May 16, 17, and with 900 people like that, I can't be and 18. While we fell short of our goal, anything but ecstatic. We were stunned to receive news that Write or call us at University of the total for the year still works out to an our seniors project would not be funded Minnesota, Duluth, 130 Humani- impressive $21,500 from 900 pledgers. Thank you to all who pledged, and to for the coming fiscal year. While ties Bldg., Duluth, Minnesota Considering that it is our first year of all the volunteers who make this station funding seemed assured until the last 55812, 218-726-7181. l~stener support, the total is impressive. possible and who made this marathon a minute, and the reviewers were success. Some of the volunteers leaving favorable to the project, it turned out WDTH STAFF The high point of many high points in our area and the station include: Karen that they had less than half the money Station Manager ..... Tom Livingston Collins, Pat Regan, Anna Cole, John this marathon came for me 1n the last they had last year. Program Director ...... J ohn Ziegle r fifteen minutes of the weekend. All day Layton and Don Rosacker. Ass t. Program Director .. Pa ul Schmit7 Sunday had been very quiet, mostly We are in the process of searching for Engineering ...... Peder Nelson because of the beautiful weather. It was I'm sure there are more, and if I missed funds to continue the program. especially quiet during the last two you, my apologies and thanks. Seni ors Project ...... Jea n J ohnson hours, and it became clear that we WIND POWER The University of Minnesota is weren't going to make the goal. But in MORE GOOD NEWS those last' few minutes, I got a call from Our wind power proposal is still alive, committed to the policy that all a listener in the Cable area who only We've gotten final confirmation on the though we will be rewriting and persons shall have equal access to pledged $5, but who talked for several additional space we will receive from resubmitting it to other possible it's programs, facilities, and em- minutes about how important the the University. We will be adding the funding sources. I will post you as ployment without regard to race, stations was to him, and how he wanted space to our current facility in the developments occur. creed, color, sex, national origin, or handicap. · TOM LIVINGSTON, STATION MANAGER

A recent weekend saw the playing of the It's a good idea. A question that 12th Annual Ashland Folk Festival at plagued the Bangladesh concert, film Northland College in Ashland. This and that should be asked here is event has become one of the the amount of money that will actually prerequisites' for spring, like smelting, go to anti-nuclear work. That aside, the the first ore boat, and the first Buster Bar musical content is somewhat lacking. of the year. Both and Crosby, Stills & Nash are in less than top form, and I feel I The festival is exactly what folk music the overall song selection was The Vinyl Blow means to me: it's comfortable. The uninspired. The two exceptions to .; iat ·l by Tom Livingston Winnipeg Festival has become too big, come at the close of side one with Johr. and most of the others, too far away, so Hall's "Plutonium is Forever", and an Ashland is our festival. ensemble on "Power", songs that l capture anti-nuke feelings well. I I' Folk music happens when a bunch of recommend this album (which sells for ! people get together in someone's house around $15) to 1) someone who doesn't to play, and it's totally spontaneous and already own by these artists. informal; sort of First person music. A (They ARE all top-notch performers & I good folk festival is like that, and influences in contemporary music) or 2) Ashland is a good festival. This year I if you are half-activist/ half-music fan. went only to the workshops, and at the acapella workshop 10 or 12 people sat On the other hand, if you are interested around a fire in the fireplace of a lounge mostly in tnusic, buy th?ee Gil Scott- in one of the Campus dormitories and Heron or Bonnie Raitt albums instead, almost everyone contributed a song or and if nuclear activism is your thing, l,. twol I still don't know who was give the money to the Union of "performer" and who "audience". Concerned Scientists or better y~t, give l it directly to a local anti-nuclear For musicians, folk festivals are a place organization. to get together, swap songs, and have a good time. This happens at nearly all of Speaking of time, timing has been a big the various festivals around the factor in the success of nimble-fingered country. Only at the really small guitarist Norman Blake. Blake festivals like Ashland does the audience appeared on the scene with his get into the act. lightning fast runs and crisp flat-pick style after musicians like Clarence Last month I talked about resurrecting White, and Doc Watson had begun to the past in the form of "The Rose", a show the potential of the instrument. movie about a 60's rock star. This month I'll start with another attempt of He became a relatively large success, the same, . and has since put records out regularly that have sold quite well. The problem "No Nukes" (Asylum ML-801), with this heavy exposure is that Blake's features some of the biggies who formed melodic and lyric inventiveness has not an organization called M. U .S.E. always been up to it, and the result has (M.;sicians United for Safe Energy). been uneven quality. The group then performed a series of benefit Madison Square Garden A less kind friend has tagged the style Concerts, and from those made a threes "Chicken Picking". While he doesn't album set complete with pictures and a break any daring new ground on his story book. All proceeds from the new album "The Rising Fawn String concert and record sales go to a Ensemble" (Rounder 0122) the foundation that will dole it out to anti- addition of Fiddler James Bryan, and nuclear groups around the country. the mixture of slow and fast tunes makes Blake's return to Rounder . Records rank with his best. I recommend it to Norman Blake fans, Pictured at 1'eft: and also those interested in flat-pick The Gogebic Tambutitzan's entertain who don't own any Blake. If at the 12th Annual Ashland Folk you've been dissatisfied in his recent Festival. work, try to listen to it before you buy.

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Week- At A Glance , Mon.-Thurs. Friday Saturday Sunday -- 6:00 Awakening 6:00 Awakening 7:00 Awakening 7:00 Awakening . 10:00 Press Review (Wed. 10:00 Press Review 12:00 Soul Arrival I 12:00 Soul Arrival Economic Perspectives) 10:15 Mid-Morning Report 3:00 Folk Migrations 2:30 Black Crys From the Ghetto 10:15 Mid-Morning Report 10:30 Album Feature 6:00 Free-Form Program 3:00 Blues N' Things 10:30 Album Feature 11:00 Noon Song 8:00 Third World of Music 6:00 One For the Road 11:00 Noon Song '1:30 First Person Radio 8:30 Equal Voice 7:00 Insight 1:30 M. - Senior Radio Program 2:00 Folk N' Blues 9:00 Expansions 8:00 Something For Your Head T. - Something For Your Head 4:45 Evening News 12:00 Moondance . 8:30 Marconi's Wireless Theatre W. - Spotlight Psychology' 5:00 Harmony of the Spheres 3:00 Sign-Off 9:00 Jazz Expansions T. - Third World of Music 7:00 Insight 12:00 Moondance 2:00 Workshop 8:00 Jazz Expansions 3:00 Sign-Off 4:45 Evening News 11:00 Moondance ' 5:00 Harmony of the Spheres 3:00 Sign-Off 7:00 Insight 8:00 Jazz Expansions 11:00 Moondance ' -2:00 Sign-Off

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MONDAY- 2 Roulette recording "All Because of 7:00 - Tonight on Insight "Women time guitarist for the Who, Peter You". Some of the guests are Curtis Workers Speak Out". In this program Townshend. The L.P. is entitled 5:00 - Liszt's "Olncerto No. 2 for Piano Fuller (), Victor Lewis you'll hear a variety of women 'talk "Empty Glass" and also features Peter's & Orchestra" with Van Cliburn and the (drums), and James Williams (piano). about their work, how they feel about friends Tony Butler (bass), Kenney Philadelphia Orchestra conducted by Mr. Watson is currently playing with their wages, their working conditions Jones (drums), and "Rabbit" Bundrick. Eugene Ormandy. This typically the legendary Art Blakey and his Jazz and their most personal feelings about romantic concerto abandons the three Messengers; tonight's recording shows the kind of work they do. (Produced by movement of the classical concerto and how this young man can wail. Bonnie Bellow and Brett Harvey for MONDAY- 9 says all it has to say in one long WBAI) movement-like a symphonic poem-for 11:00 - Tonight a new release by Paula 5:00 - "Magnificat", the song of praise piano and orchestra. Lockheart entitled "It Ain't The End of 8:00-Tonight a new release from vibist recorded in Luke, "My soul doth The World" with Peter Ecklund, Steve called "Un Poco magnify the Lord", has· been set to 7:00 - First Person Radio (Produced by Burgh, John Hammond and other Loco" (named after the glorious music by many composers. We the MIGIZI Communications Service) lriends. classic). Together with John hear Antonio Vivaldi's version tonight Abercrombie (guitar), as sung by the Roger Wagner Chorale. , 7:30 - "Iran: A Journalist Returns". (piano), Chuck Domanico (bass), and Freelance journalist Steven Manis Peter Erskine (drums) this quintet roars WEDNESDAY- 4 7:00 - First Person Radio (Produced by reported from Tehran for KPFK after through bop classics and new originals the MIGIZI Communications Service) spending 4 years in Iran during the 70's with equal ease. 5:00 - From a recording of late 18th as a teacher. He talks tonight about the 7:30 - "Talking To The Real Norma stand-off between the U.S. and Iran over Century music entitled "A Gala Dinner 11:00 - Tonight "Go For What You Concert at the Court of Vienna" we Rae". KPFK's labor reporters Bob the hostages. Know" by the Pat Travers Band "Live" Aldrich and Sam Kurshner interview offer Georg Muffat's "Victoria maesta" recorded at several locations in the concerto and Karl Georg von Reutter's Cry;tal Lee Sutton, the textile worker 8:00 - Beginning the month with a - south and east in February of 1979. Pat who organized fellow employees brand new release from "Servizio di Tavola". Guenter Kehr is Thrall (second guitar), Cowling the conductor. despite anti-union activities by J.P. featuring the combined piano talents of (bass), and (drums) Stevens and others. Her experience is and . The make up the poup. the basis for the film "Norma Rae". L.P. is entitled "Night Rider" and also 7:00 - Tonight, Minnesota Issues has on bass and Louie (Produced by Andy Marlow for KUOM). 8:00 - Tonight we feature the music of Bellson on drums. FRIDAY- 8 reed artist Sam Most from his Xanadu 7:30 - The Senior Citizens Radio release entitled "Mostly Flu~e". 11:00 -Tonight from the L.P. "On To 5:00 - Azerbaijan was one of the first Program (Produced by the Senior Together with the genius Tai Farlow Victory" the music of the group Soviet states. It is a province on the Citizens Radio Project for WDTH) on guitar, the outstanding Duke Jordan Humble Pie. This album was pre- southwestern shore of the Caspian Sea, ,,. on piano and veterans and empted last month, so tonight you get a and its folk songs and dances are the 8:00 - The master: Sonny Rollins is our Billy Higgins (bass and drums) this chance to hear Steve Marriott, Bobby inspiration for tonight's feature group proves they can really cook. Tench, Jerry Shirley, and Anthony featured artist tonight on Jazz Expansions from an early 60's record- "Azerbaijan Mugam" by a composer "Sooty" Jones. from that country, Fikret Amirov. ing "Sonny & the Stars". Some of the 11:00 - A new recording tonight by the l conducts the stars are: (vibes), John "". Houston Symphony Orchestra. Lewis (piano), Percy Heath (bass), and This is an incredibly versatile group of TUESDAY- 3 Art Blakey (drums). "In a Sentimental musicians whose influences range from 7:00 - Tonight on Insight "Jesse Mood", "Slow Boat to China", and rock to country, from blues to fusion. Jackson on Mideast Politics". Jesse 5:00 - "Lamination" by Morton "The Stopper" are just a few of the (), (bass), Jackson is a minister and the head of Subotnick. This influential composer tunes you can hear this evening. Allen Sloan (violin, viola), Rod is best known for his purely electronic Chicago based Operation PUSH. He Morgenstern (drums), and T. Lavitz I recently visited Saudi Arabia with 12 compositions-"The Wild Bull", 11:00 - Tonight the music of Danny (keyboarcls). other black American leaders and the t "Sidewinder", etc. The work we offer , O'Keefe from his 1979 release "The program tonight is a speech and tonight is different because it uses Global Blues". (drums), question/answer session al the Los traditional instruments, but it requires Veyler Hildebrand (bass), Tony TUESDAY .. 10 Angeles World Affairs Council Dinner. THEM to imitate in timbre and texture Williams, (piano) and (Produced by Richard Mal,ller for those sounds that are created more friends make up this classic L.P. 5:00 - Edvard Grieg's "Lyric Suite Op. electronically. conducts the KPFK) / 54" consists of four short pictorial Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra. pieces: Shepherd Boy, Norwegian 8:00 - Tonight we're gonna "put it in Peasant March, Nocturne and March of 7:00 - Tonight on Insight, Studs Terkel THURSDAY- 5 the alley" with an old L.P. by tenor-. the Dwarfs. The Moscow Radi9 and Barry Commoner from a live saxophonist , "Brother Symphony Orchestra is conducted by recording in front of a crowd of 700 at 5:00 - Renaissance music by Christoph Jug!". Pay particular attention to "He's Gennady Rozhdestvensky. the Wilshire Ebell Theatre talking Demantius is featured tonight as we A Real Gone Guy" with Sonny Phillips about all manner of things. present his setting of Psalm 116 in a at the organ, and also to Gene's own 7:00 - "Accidents Will Happen". A performance by the Berlin-Spandau "Jungle Strut". This is from 1970. documentary tonight on Insight on the 8:00 - Alto saxophonist Robert Watson ·Kantorei under the direction of Martin is the featured artist tonight from his Behrmann. 11:00 - Tonight a new release by long- Continued on next page L I 4 JUNE HIGHLIGHTS (cont.) 7:00 • "CBS Blows It". Tonight on String Orchestra & Continuo in B-Flat Arleccinesco for Orchestra with Tenor, Insight. On April 26 CBS-TV aired a Major" is heard in a performance by Op. 46." W. H. Moser is the tenor nuclear reactor accident at Three Mile documentary entitled "Gay Power, Gay George Zukerman, with Jorg Faerber soloist, and C.A. Bunte conducts the • Island in March 1979. The program Politics", it was a badly biased piece of conducting the WurrtembergChamber Berlin Symphony Orchestra. contains statements by public relations reporting and will probably set the Orchestra. men for the utility company, physicists, struggle for gay rights back. The 7:00 • First Person Radio (Produced by politicians, the President, and program tonight discusses this 7:00 - Minnesota Issues (Produced by the MIGIZI Communications Service) consumer advocates on what actually documentary. '(Produced by Clare Andy Marlow for KUOMJ happened and what were the results. Spark for KPFK). 7:30 - "Argentina: The Final (Produced by Alan Snitow and Aileen 7:30 • Senior Citizen Radio Program Solution". Gloria Tierney discusses Alfandary for KPFA). 8:00- Lou Donaldson is a man who has (Produced by ,the Senior Citizen Radio Argentina's concentration camps and been playing good music for a long Project for WDTH) what's happening there and in 8:00 • Tonight from the "Newport time with little or no recognition. surrounding countries. (Produced by Years 1957" and an all-star group with Tonight we feature one of his quartet 8:00 - The most recent recording by Anita Frankel for KPFK) (tenor), Roy sessions with the late on Chick Corea "Tap Step" is the L.P. Eldridge (), Pete Brown (alto), guitar, John Patton on Hammond B-3, featured tonight on Jazz Expansions. 8:00 - One of the giants of the vibes: and rhythm section ofJo Jones (drums), and Ben Dixon at the dru.ms. The L.P. With Flora Purim, Airto, Joe Farrell, Milt Jackson is our feature artist Al McKibbon (bass), and is from the Blue Note vaults and is titled Stanley Clarke and a host of others tonight from his new L.P. "Bag's Bag" (piano). "Good Gracious". Corea and Co. go through seven new with (piano), compositions all dedicated to (bass). "I Cover The Waterfront", 11:00 - Tonight some rockin~ blues 11:00 • Tonight an early excursion by wonderful artists, past and present. "Groovin"', and "The Rev" aresomeof with the cool sound of Albert Collins Rory Gallagher and friends Richard the fine tunes on this recording. from his latest L.P. "Frostbite". This McCracken (guitar), and John Wilson 11:00 • Tonight we present, cat is a genius with his beat-up old (drums) from the album (and nam~ of uninterrupted, one of those classic 11:00 - "Loving Is Why" tonight by Telecaster as he just lays down some of the group) "Taste". Motown/Tamla recordings: "Diana that great Bay area band The Sons of the best blues around. His band is made Ross and the Supremes Anthology", a Champlin. Led by guitarist Terry up of Chicago veterans like A.C. Reed, three-record set containing "You Keep Haggerty and with Bill Champlin Casey Jones, Johnny Gayden and MONDAY-18 Me Hangin' On", 'Tm Gonna Make (guitars .and vocals), James Preston others. You Love Me", "Back In My Arms (percussion) and friends, this is 5:00- "Dolmen. An Elegy". Ben Weber, Again" and a multitude of others. something you won't want to miss. the composer of this orchestral work, WEDNESDAY - 11 explains that the title is an ancient Breton word for megalithic stone THURSDAY - 19 TUESDAY - 24 5:00 • Brahms wrote several of the finest structures serving as burial chambers, chamber works for clarinet late in his still numerous in Brittany and other 5:00 - "Ecuatorial" by Edgar Varese. 5:00 - Richard Yardumian was born in life. Two of these, the two sonatas, were northern European countries. The composer wrote: "The Philadelphia in 1917. His Second also transcribed by him for viola. Sometimes these stones were inscribed title ... (suggests) to me the regions where Symphony is based on settings of Tonight we feature the Sonata No. I in with runes, the meanings of which have pre-Columbian art flourished. I wanted selections from the Psalms, including F Minor as played by violist Walter been lost, but were most likely magical. the music to have something of the Numbers 130, 95, 27, 24, and 121. In our Trampler with Mieoyslaw Horszowski Robert Whitney conducts the same elemental rude intensity of these recording Lili Chookasian is the at the piano. Louisville Orchestra. primitive works." Maurice Abravanel contralto soloist and Eugene Ormandy conducts the Utah Symphony conducts the Philadelphia Orchestra. 7:00 - Minnesoti Issues (Produced by 7:00 • First Person Radio (Produced by Orchestra. Andy Marlow for KUOM). the MIGIZI Communications Service) 7:00 - "Gayjavu". Reliving gay history 7:00- "Nuclear Power: The Wall Street through information and music. 7:30 • The Senior Citizen Radio 7:30 • "Alan Soldofsky and Michael Connection". On October 28 & 29, 1979, Program (Produced by the Senior Lerner". Soldofsky is a San Francisco the 50th anniversary of the Great Stock 8:00 - A wonderful new release by Bill Citizen Radio Project for WfffH). area poet, Lerner is from the Institute Market Crash, several thousand people Evans, "We Will Meet Again", is for Labor and Mental Health. Together demonstrated on Wall Street to protest tonight's feature L.1_". With Tom 8:00 - Miles Davis is in the spotlight they take a look at the psychology of the financial community's bankrolling Harrell (trumpet), and Larry Schneider tonight on Jazz Expansions from a new Americans of this era. (KPFK) of the nuclear industry. (Produced by (reeds), and rhythm section mates release of old material (from the years Robbie Leppzer and Kelley Doolan for Marc Johnson (bass) and Joe 1955-1970) entitled "Circle In The 8:00- From July of 1977 and the Pablo WMUA) LaBarbera (drums), Evans and friends Round". Some of this is truly classic Live series we feature the music of swing through old classics like "Peri's stuff, "Two Bass Hit" and "Love For saxophonist Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis 8:00 - "Just Friends" is the name of the Scope" and new compositions like Sale" with and Julian with his All-Star rhythm section of latest recording by swingin' tenor "Bill's Hit Tune". "Cannonball" Adderley; other Oscar Peterson (piano), Ray Brown saxophonist . Together with selections featuring Bill Evans, Wayne (bass), and (drums). Harry "Sweets" Edison and a rhythm 11:00 • "Connections ... the medium Shorter, Ron Carter, Tony Williams, "The Breeze and I", "Angel Eyes", and section of Pablo regulars, Zoot and between things that comprehend etc. "This Can't Be Love" are a few of the friends sail through "Blue Skies", "My separateness as if it were a reality". tunes to be heard tonight. Heart Belongs To Daddy", "A Little Tonight we feature the new L.P. by 11 :00 • Tonight from the Tutu" and several others. Richie Havens entitled "Connections". Motown/Tamla record label we hear 11:00 • From a new release by the the music of and his Rockets tonight we hear "No Ballads". 11:00 • Tonight from·a new 1980 release classic "Let's Get It On". David T. Dave Gilbert (vocals), Jim McCarty The Marc Tanner Band and the L.P. WEDNESDAY- 25 Walker, , Victor (guitar), Dennis Robbins (guitar), "Temptation". "Hold Your Head Up", Feldman, Plas Johnson are just a few of Donnie Backus (keyboards), and John "Lonely Street", "Temptation", and 5:00 • Rachmaninoff's "Piano the fine musicians who grace these "Bee" Badanjek (drums) make up the several others are included tonight. Concerto No. 3 in D Minor, Op. 30" is grooves. group. heard in a recent recording with Lazar Berman at the piano and the London FRIDAY- 20 Symphony Orchestra conducted by Claudio Abbado. THURSDAY • 12 TUEIDAY-17 5:00 • Leon Stein is a composer, conductor, and educator born in - Minnesota Issues (Produced by • An All Beethoven Program! No 7:00 5:00 5:00 • Robert and Gaby Casadesus are Chicago in 1910. He has written works Andy Marlow for KUOM) special reason for this celebration, other the two soloists in Mozart's "Concerto in many forms, including five string than the Master's music itself. Walter in E-Flat Major for Two Pianos, K. quartets. Tonight we hear the fourth of 7:30 • Senior Citizens Radio Program. Gieseking's clarsic recording of the 365". The Philadelphia Orchestra is these, written in 1965 and containing (Produced by the Senior Citizen Radio Fourth Piano Concerto will be among conducted by Eugene Ormaildy. three movements. The Chicago Project for WDTH) the highlights. Symphony String Quartet performs. 7:00 • "Musical Outlaws" Tonight's • From the years 1956-58 we get Tonight from "The American 8:00 7:00 • documentary takes a look at the new 7:00 • "Me and My Shadow". In the mid tonight's feature by Billie Holiday. Enterprise Institute the program phenomena of contemporary music 70's Congress assumed a watchdog role From the album, "Broadcast "Future Directions For Public Policy". "New Wave". Jim Tindall of KPFK over the CIA after revelations in the Performances Vol. 3" with appearances talks to musicians, club owners, and press and before the Senate Intelligence by Coleman Hawkins, , • "In Walked Sonny" from Art 8:00 small record label distributors. Committee. Tonight's documentary , , Gerry Blakey and the Jazz Messengers with the contains confessions of former Mulligan ·and many other legendary tenor / alto giant leading the 8:00 • The brilliance of McCoy Tyner is infiltrators, the retrospective performers. way. "ICan'tGetStarted", "ltMightAs featured tonight on Jazz Expansions ruminations of the infiltrated, and the Well Be Spring", and "Blues March" from a recording of May, 1968 entitled texts of FBI files. - Tonight the music of Philip are just a few of the tunes you can hear 11:00 "Time For Tyner". Bobby Hutcherson Ram bow from his recording "Shooting tonight on Jazz Expansions. (vibes), Herbert Lewis (bass), and 8:00 - Organist Lonnie Smith is in the Gallery". "Don't Call Me Tonto", Freddie Waits (drums) round out the spotlight tonight from his new release "The Rebel Kind", and "Deep River" • Tonight the music of Jorma 11:00 group with Mr. Tyner in control at the "When the Night is Right!" A man who are just a few of the tunes. Kaukonen and Co., from the piano. played many years ago with George L.P. "Yellow Fever". From 1975, with Benson, Smith has evolved to a point Jack Casady (bass), and Bob Steeler 11:00 • "Growing Up In Public" where his style is a unique mixture of THURSDAY - 28 (drums), we hear "Baby What You tonight from Lou Reed. This is a new many elements. Tune in tonight for Want Me To Do", "Hot Jelly Roll 1980 release by one of rocks interesting "Impressions", "Apex" and others. 5:00 · OPERA NIGHT. Prokoviev's Blues", "Sunrise Dance With The and innovative artists. Tunes include "The Gambler". Based on the short Devil" and more. "My Old Man", "The Power of Positive 11:00-Tonight a collection of tunes by novel by Dostoevsky of the same name, Drinking", "Think It Over" and more. from his L.P. "Blue this story of compulsion makes for Suede Shoes" from the years 1955 to powerful music drama. Our recording , FRIDAY-13 1965. "Solitary Man", "So Fine", "It's is a Russian production under the WEDNESDAY-18 All Right" and several others. direction of Gennady Rozhdestvensky. 5:00 • Ernst von Dohnanyi's "Cello Concerto, Op. 12" is featured with 5:00 • Johann Gottlieb Graun lived 7:00 - "Facing Joe McCarthy ( 1953) and soloist Janos Starker and Walter from 1703 to 1771. He spent many years MONDAY- 23 The House Un-American Activities Susskind conducting the Philharmonia in the service of Prussia's Frederick the Committee ( 1960)". Lewis Freed berg Orchestra. Great. His "Concerto for Bassoon, 5:00 • Ferruccio Busoni's "Rondo (KPFA) interviews William Mandel 5 about his appearances before Joe 7:30- "Ron Dellums". From a stop-the- McCarthy and the HUAC. war teach-in at Berkeley in April 1980, Dell us attacks the Carter federal budget, 8:00 - Tonight a new recording by calls Carter a Lorn again cold war Jessica Williams entitled "Rivers of warrior, and gives him interpretations Memory". All selections were of Iran and Afghanistan. (KPFK) Letters from Listeners composed by Ms. Williams who continues to show her artistic 8:00 - We conclude the month with a development at the keyboard. new release by pianist Kenny Drew, To All At WDTH: me through work on the weekends. I've "Home Is Where The Soul Is" with got to have it continue for my own 11:00 -Tonight the Mark Farner Band bassist , and drummer Just wanted to write and tell you what a sanity and the sanity of my customers. from the LP. "No Frills" is the Frank Butler. From classical fantastic radio station WDTH and all "Dul•u th, Minnesota-Duluth, Moondance feature. Formr · member of beginnings, to the early days of be-bop, those involved with it are. I have been Minnesota, Soul has arrived-Soul has Grand Funk Railroad together with to settling in Copenhagen in 1964, to unemployed for six weeks now and I arrived." Please Duluth, Minnesota, let Dennis Bellinger (bass), and Andy 1978 and this record, Kenny Drew has listen from 8:00 a.m. until 12:00 Soul always remain. Newmark (drums) make up this group. grown and developed to be one of the Midnight. I'm into Jazz, Blues 8c finest pianists alive today. Bluegrass and feel your selections are S!ncerely, great. All the announcers deserve a pat FRIDAY- 27 11:00 - Tonight we feature the group on the back for the time and energy Gary Crandull Hummingbird from their L.P. "We donated for my pleasme, as well as the Drummond, WI. 5:00 - Miriam Gicteon has recently Can't Go On Meeting Like This" with thousands of other listeners. You all are written many works for voice and Bobby Tench (guitar), Bernard Purdie so laid back and relaxed even when instrumental ensemble in which the (drums), and Co. things to wrong..... The program the Dear WDTH; vocal part shifts between the original other night "The Life", on prostitution language and an English translation. was excellent. All in all I can find Your request for financial support "Songs of Youth and Madness" which Senior Citizen Radio absolutely nothing to bitch about with prompts me to write regarding your we hear tonight is an example. It is regards to WDTHI Thank you for the scheduling of gospel (i.e., religious) based on poems of Friedrich Holderlin Programs for June millions of hours of listening pleasure music on Sunday afternoons. A written during and after a tragic love -Monday, June 2 Be Wednesday, June 4: you've given me. program of this type has no rightful affa1r. The setting shifts from German "Aging in Denmark," from Radio place on a state-sponsoreed radio to English. Judith Raskin is the Sweden. Part of a series on older people Catherine Sebek station, which you are, essentially. Are soprano, and James Dixon conducts).he in the Scandinavian countries. Hayward, Wisconsin there no "black cries from the ghetto" American Composers Orchestra. other than gospel songs? Monday, June 9 Be Wednesday, June l l: 7:00 - "Women Organizing For Decent "Move to Sunrise," a program about Dear People: I know that you've heard of separation Housing" . Tonight's program focuses the move of a group of older people of church and state, and even though on how single mothers and Third from an old Board 8c Care Home to a Thank you for the excellent radio one might speak of gospel music as World women are being threatened by new Intermediate Care Facility in Two programs. a distinct musical genre, it IS church discriminatory trends in the Berkeley Harbors. Produced by the Senior oriented. You have no business touting housing market through interviews, Citizens Radio Project for WDTH. 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A Conversation with Sonny· Rollins by John Ziegler

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This man is very simply one of the to study music at the time. I was more JZ: After that, the next tenor player our own band. He was lucky enough to finest jazz artists who has ever lived. interested in playing ball and having that's always listed in importance and get recommended to T helonius Monk From his formative years when he fun out with the other kids. But by the who has influenced a multitude of horn and he became a part of a band that learned from Coleman Hawkins and time I was l l or so, I began to really like players and other musicians was Les ter Monk had. He wanted me to join the Lester " Pres" Young through his early some of the music. I was hearing and I Young. band, and he brought me by to associatioins with Eddie "Lockjaw" wanted to play the . Thelonius' house so I could get a Davis, Thelonius Monk, and Bud SR: That's right. There was always a chance to JOm the band That Powell, on to being an integral member JZ: Yeah, will you talk about the time big rivalry (at the time) between happened, and I spent many, many of groups led by Clifford Brown, Max your cousin had an alto, and the time Coleman and Lester. When I heard afternoons down at Thelonious' house Roach and Miles Davis and finally to you first saw it in its case? Lester I also liked him. They were where we would be going over this very his development as a leader and one of different but I liked them both, and by intricate, difficult music that Monk was the most profound voices in the musical SR: Oh yeah! (Laughs) Well it was just my liking Lester's playing it didn't in writing. And, it was at that time that I idiom we know as jazz: Sonny Rollins that when I saw this instrument (he any way diminish what Coleman was met some other fine musicians who has always been a standout. brought it out from where he had it, I doing because they were different were rehearsing with Thelonius. think it was under the bed) he set it people. But I did love Lester very, very The following is a portion of a 50- down there and opened up the case. much and I went about getting as many So that period was very fruitful for me, minute "live" telephone interview I There was this shiney, beautiful of his records as I could and listening to and as you say, I feel very, very fortunate had the pleasure of doing with this instrument and that was it for me, it was as much of his stuff as I could. I think I and blessed to have come up in that giant of jazz from Berkeley, California, love at first sight. That was it (laughs), I got influenced by him also; I think environment and around such people. as he was in the midst of a West Coast knew that I had to have one. there is some of him in my playing. At tour. Like his saxaphone playing, least I hope so because he was so great. JZ: Another person I would ask about, Sonny was warm, interesting and JZ: Your mother got you an alto then? and another person that would be humorous: JZ: Also, there were some other cats included in this same framework was SR: Well, as soon as she was able to she from around that time who didn't get as the time you lived around a place called did, in fact, get me an alto not too long large a name, but you've cited Eddie Sugar Hill. The man I'd like to have JZ: Sonny, could we go back and learn after that. A used horn and then " Lockjaw" Davis and Lucky you talk about was Bud Powell. something about the background of eventually I was bought a brand new Thompson as influences. Sonny Rollins that has lead up to the horn after she saw that I really wanted SR: Well, I'll tell you Bud lived fairly present time. Some of the different to play it and I was really going to SR: Right, right! Well, Eddie Davis is close to us. Bud lived on 141st Street and people you've played with and some of practice and study it. Then I finally got one of the finest players around and I I lived at 153rd Street which was close the different periods you've gone a brand new tenor. That's how it came think he is probably a very underrated enough that we were wuhin walking . through. about. musician also. They used to call him distance. And it was at that age that you "Baby Ben" at one time because he was walked all over the place. Bud was a SR: Un-huh. JZ: I know one of your first influences influenced a great deal by Ben Webster. tremendously important figure, a very was Coleman Hawkins. But there was something younger and fine musician, and a very (well I could JZ: l know that you were born in New more contemporary in Eddie Davis' say) eccentric person. York in the late 20's (1929). Could you SR: Right. playing at the time. We were all in high talk a little bit about what the musical school at that time and we felt attracted JZ: He had some personal problems I environment was for you, because you JZ: Could you talk about the first time to his music. So I (one time) made a trip guess. had some diversity when you ·were you heard Coleman and what effect that up to the Bronx in New York where young. You have a mother who comes had on you? Eddie was living and knocked on his SR: Yeah, yeah but he was a very from the Virgin Islands and that door with my horn and said "Well, here dedicated musician. Caribbean influence has come through. SR: When I first heard Coleman it was I am man, show me something." quite a departure for me because I had (Laughs) JZ: Right, one of the things I was going SR: Right. been listening to mainly a lot of so- to ask about was, you made one of your called rhythm 8c blues players. People JZ: What did he say? early records with Bud and the thing I JZ: I know you have a brother that plays like Louis Jordan who was one of my noticed in learning about you Sonny the violin, and an uncle who used to big, big favorites. Coleman, when I SR: Well (Laughs) you know he just was that many times these players not have some recordings of people like heard him, was quite different because sort of said, "Gee, how you doin' kid." only influenced you musically, but in Lonnie Johnson and Tommy he had a different approach to music. It But he was very nice to me because he other ways also. One of the things you McClellon that you used to hear when was on a gut level but it was more could see that I was serious and I really got from Bud was dedication. you were young. intellectual, if you will. And even wanted to play. though I liked Louis Jordan a great SR: Yeah, because Bud didn't care too SR: Right. deal, I still do, I like all his stuff; the way JZ: You've been fortunate Sonny much about other things such as events Coleman Hawkins played impressed through a large part of your career in that were happening in his life or JZ: Could you talk about the me deeply because there was so much that you've always had some very fine everyday things. He really didn't care environment and things that you musicality involved. There was so players as (direct) influences. too much about that. What he cared picked up at that time. much intricate playing of chord about was music. And although it's changes and progressions that I was You were still quite young when you pretty hard to be like that, I admire SR: Well, I came from a musical family intrigued and I was overwhelmed by his used to rehearse at Thelonius Monk's people that are, and I respect them. I and a musical environment, and I great ability. So at that point I made a house. think it can take a toll on you because always liked music as a kid. I started out slight departure: instead of wanting to you have to have some kind of personal on piano. My family started me out play more blues stuff, I wanted to play SR: That's exactly right! There was a life besides your music. But I admire when I was eight years old but I didn't more intellectual type of jazz. That's very close friend of mine, a high school and respect Bud and even though he take to it very much being the youngest why I always list him as one of my big chum of mine, who played trumpet; he had a rather short, abbrevi.-ted life, he child in the family I really didn't want influences, one of my big idols. and I played together a lot and we had contributed a great deal and was a 7 tremendous influence on a lot of excluded the comping instrument: SR: Yeah, actually it was the was the only group that was really people. Hi's music is here on record and piano/ guitar). Some people cite you Williamsburg Bridge. I did practice making it pretty good. There wasn't too

will remain. and some cite as having 1 some on the Brooklyn Bridge but the much happening in general, the first experimented with that. Williamsburg was a better bridge for business was n~t so good. He liked my playing which gave me a that purpose. tremendous boost, and he asked me to SR: (Laughs) Well, I don't know who I had an opportunity to travel and I was - record with him on one of those early did what first. The only thing I can say JZ: Before you were ready to come back, interested in a particular movement records (on which ·1 was also in the is that Gerry, who is a good friend and for some reason, you recorded that (yoga) and I traveled to India to check it company of the great Fats Navarro). So who I've played with on many album called, "The Bridge" with Jim out. I stayed there for a while and I got a , I learned a lot from going by Bud's uccasions, and-I play differently. So it's Hall (guitar), Bob Cranshaw (bass), and lot out of it, it was a very interesting house and listening to him practice. not a matter of who did it first, we each Ben Riley (drums). experience I had there. did it with our own particular things in JZ: Do you remember the place in the mind. So it really didn't come out the I came back and I began playing a little Bronx where you first mt.. Miles Davis? same. The instrumentation might have SR: Right, what happened was that bit, and a little bit and finally I got I guess at the time Miles had people like been without a piano, but I don't think having the type of personality that I rolling again around 1971. I've been Art Blakey and John Coltrane in that there was any conscious attempt on his have; I'm the type of person that likes to playing steadily since then. band. part to do what I was doing or on my have things perfected. I always feel there part to do what he was doing. is more that can be done to satisfy me as JZ: Sonny, do you have a particular SR: That's right. Well, it happened like far as my own particular ideals are approach to composing? In general do this: There used to be a place called JZ: The next thing I would like to ask concerned. So, no I didn't think I had it you usually compose on the horn, on Minton's Playhouse which was quite a about is the period betwen 1959-61 all together then but I &!so realized that the piano, or without an instrument? histprical place in the history of jazz. I •when you took some time off and it I was bringing a tremendous hardship · used to go by there and wait my turn to created kind of a stir. Some people call on my wife. My wife was working, SR· Actually I use all three methods. get a chance to play. To just sit in and this "The Bridge" in your career. This helping us make it. I was getting some Sometimes music comes to me and I jam with the other musicians. So of was a time when you really wanted to royalty checks but it was hard. So I might be walking down the street or I course, it was a matter of "survival of get further into music. You wanted to figured I might as well make a stab at it might be riding the train on my way the fittest". There used to be a lot of study and do some work on arranging now because I'll always be trying to home,' I might be doing anything. At musicians who came by who wanted to and composition. perfect myself (which I'm still doing to that point the next things to do is to play but you had to be of a certain this very day). write it down before you forget it. So I cali her. If you were, you were allowed to SR: Right, right. Well, actually it came compose like that, and other times I go play and if you weren't then you would about due to several things. One thing, I JZ: After this, Don Cherry joined you to the piano which will lead me into just be up there once and that would be was becoming very, very popular with for a while. hidden recesses of my mind which will the end of it. So, Minton's was quite a jazz fans at that time and I felt a produce songs. And at other times I place and one night I was there playing tremendous obligation to satisfy those SR: Right, right. I worked with Don compose by playing my instrument. with some people and there was a guy in fans. I felt I was unable to do it without Cherry and Billy Higgins whom I had . the audience who came up to me after some more studying and some more met in California in the 50's when Ifirst JZ: As for looking for a tune .... the and said, "Well, listen kid, how'd you composing: just get my act together a went out there. harmonica content, the melodic like to play up at the Club 845 as the little better. content, do you look for some humor in intermission band on a big thing I'm JZ: In 1968 you took another sabbatical the tune? What captivates Sonny So, I've always been a person that having up there on Sunday. How'd you and this time I think you just wanted to Rollins? follows my own mind and so I said I'm like to be the intt:rmission band?" So I check things out. You took a trip to the just going to stop and get myself said, "Sure, great." So I went up there, East or around the world or something? SR: (Chuckles) Well, humor. I have a and Miles was one of the big stars that together and that's what I did. sense of humor. In fact when I was a kid was playing, and he heard me and I was called "Jester" by my friends and I immediately offered me a job in his As far as the bridge was concerned it just SR: Right. Well, I had (ever since the used to be big on jokes and things like band. happened that I was out in the street one period of "The Bridge") begun to think that. Like there used to be guys in day and I was living in a small a lot about philosophy, and I had school who if you offered them candy JZ: Was that your first meeting with apartment at the time where it was questions about the meaning of life, they'd always want something. So I John Coltrane? really impossible to blow a saxophone and the meaning of my existence. I was used to get Feen-A-Mint which was a as much as I wanted to do it, which was trying to gtt some understanding of it laxative and put it inside of a chicklets SR: Well, after I started playing with maybe 22 hours a day. So the idea came all. I had been studying various things, chewing gum box. When these greedy Miles then we started playing with to me, "Well, hey, look at this bridge, Rosicrucianism, yoga and sabud guys would come around "Oh year, let Coltrane. Kenny Clarke, Nelson Boyd why don't you walk up on this bridge," (which is another type of mental me have some", I'd say, "Sure, here." (bass), there were some times that the And so I walked up on the bridge and I discipline). I'd also been doing a lot of . band would change but that was started to walk across the span across reading on philosophy and Sir Francis So I'd be big on these type of practical basically the nucleus of the band. the East River, and "lo and behold" the Bacon. And as you know the music jokes and stuff like that, and I'm sure That's when I met Coltrane. perfect place to play. There was no one business in the 6()'s was not terrific at that that's carried over into my music. up there and I could blow as loud as I that time. JZ: What was your relationship with wanted and it didn't disturb anybody JZ: The next logical question: Your him? Did you become close over the and that was it. I had found paradise JZ: Especially for a jazz artist. humor carries over into your years? right there. soloing... what are you thinking about, SR: Right, right. There weren't many what is in the head of Sonny Rollins SR: Yeah, Coltrane was a good personal JZ: That was the Williamsburg bridge? jazz groups. I think maybe Coltrane's when he is improvising or playing his friend of mine and we were pretty close horn on stage? on a personal level. And, of course, I respected his music very much. SR: Well, ideally nothing is in my head because what I try to do is make my head JZ: Did he have something to do with blank so that instead of thinking about your getting involved with the soprano. what to play, I allow ideas to come into my head. In other words, I try to be SR: Well yeah, I would say so to an blank and just let things happen rather extent because I. think he more-or-less than trying to force them to happen. re-introduced the instrument. I think it When I'm really at my best I'm not hadn't been played since Bechel who thinking about anything, my mind is played it last. Coltrane re-introduced it, just a,;i e·:npty canvas and that way it can I mean no one had even been thinking be filled without my really trying to do about playing it. anything.

JZ: Let me ask you briefly about Music is a very mysterious thing and it Clifford Brown because you speak with can happen a lot of different ways. But real fondness for Clifford not only as a the best way is when it happens in a musician but also as a person. mysterius way because music IS mysterious. SR: Right. Well, he was a very, very warm person. A person that as far as I JZ: One project that I've learned about could see had no bad points at all. He was that you are writing a saxophone just had a perfect personality; Patient concerto. with everybody, real nice guy, great musician, real humble guy. It was such SR: Right, that I'm still working on and a shock to us when he died that the ony the progress is fairly good on that. I''m way we rationalized it was by saying, making some pretty good strides. I "The world is not a good enough place might do something like that on my for him." He had a tremendous next record, it's just a matter of time. influence on me to try to be more of a You know it's got to be the right thing nice person. because there are a lot of pieces out there, but I've got the idea and it's just a JZ: At different stages of your career you matter of putting it together. So the got pretty wild. next project that I have, it might be a record or it might be a concert, that SR: Well, I hadadrughabitatonetime. lends itself to that concept of an That was around the early 50's. When I extended work: I'm going to do it. finally was able to get rid of that habit ( 1955) I joined -Clifford JZ: I've had a real nice time talking to Brown. And at the time I was sort of you. Our listeners (and readers) have unsteady emotionally in many ways, learned a good deal about Sonny and this is when Clifford helped me in Rollins, you gave us 50 minutes of your many ways beside musically. time. Thank you very much Sonny.

JZ: How did~ou decide on opting for a SR: Thank you very much. I'd like to trio? (When we talk about this trio, it say "Good, Luck" to all of you. 8

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