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Emulator Issues #9019 Change Disc Doesn't Properly Notify Games About the Disc Change 10/08/2015 04:02 AM - Projectrevotpp Emulator - Emulator Issues #9019 Change Disc doesn't properly notify games about the disc change 10/08/2015 04:02 AM - ProjectRevoTPP Status: Fixed % Done: 0% Priority: Normal Assignee: Category: Target version: Operating system: N/A Relates to No performance: Issue type: Bug Easy: No Milestone: Relates to No maintainability: Regression: No Regression start: Relates to usability: No Fixed in: 5.0-12436 Description Mario Party 4 has the "Tray is open" message when the cover is open on a real Gamecube, but this causes the game to crash on the emulator when changing the disc to another before resetting, preventing us from switching games programmatically (MP4 to MP6). It's a mundane feature since it's an emulator and not a real Gamecube, but not having it is causing us problems. Related issues: Has duplicate Emulator - Emulator Issues #11726: GameCube Games aren't proper... Duplicate History #1 - 10/08/2015 04:16 AM - Felk Here's an example of Mario Party 6 continuing to read it's music from the changed iso and causing distorted music: https://youtu.be/ifx1Ax6rLGc #2 - 10/08/2015 06:44 AM - JosJuice When you change disc, Dolphin simulates the tray being open for 1 second before inserting the new disc. Which problem are you reporting? Not having a function for opening the tray for longer than 1 second, or games like Mario Party 6 not behaving as on console when the tray is open? #3 - 10/08/2015 07:08 AM - ProjectRevoTPP JosJuice wrote: When you change disc, Dolphin simulates the tray being open for 1 second before inserting the new disc. Which problem are you reporting? Not having a function for opening the tray for longer than 1 second, or games like Mario Party 6 not behaving as on console when the tray is open? More specifically have the disc cover be open while the file dialog is open to select the new disc, so yes, open longer than 1 second. #4 - 10/08/2015 07:16 AM - JosJuice Could you explain why you want that? It sounds like a very weird feature. I'm all for adding a separate "remove disc" option, though. 09/23/2021 1/6 #5 - 10/08/2015 07:19 AM - Anonymous If this really doesn't work anymore, then it's a regression. All you (used to?) have to do to simulate removing the disc is to do "change disc..." and then click cancel instead of selecting a new disc image. I coded it originally. Feel my wrath if you broke it :) #6 - 10/08/2015 07:25 AM - Felk godisgovernment wrote: If this really doesn't work anymore, then it's a regression. All you (used to?) have to do to simulate removing the disc is to do "change disc..." and then click cancel instead of selecting a new disc image. I coded it originally. Feel my wrath if you broke it :) Yes, it does not work anymore. Opening the "change disc" dialog does not affect the game. clicking cancen does not affect the game. choosing another iso makes the game break. If you separately call DVDInterface::SetDiscInside(false) it does not affect the game. #7 - 10/08/2015 07:27 AM - JosJuice This commit changed how cancelling the file open dialog works: https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/commit/b3c9f437db116eae1d6df1068029c8b1eab60357 #8 - 10/08/2015 07:33 AM - JosJuice Also, this commit seems to have removed the "empty the drive" function being triggered by the file name being empty. Now it just re-inserts an old disc if it couldn't insert a new one. https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/commit/a3b59f684575086f233233fbae04fb7eabfd1f46 #9 - 10/08/2015 11:14 PM - theincrediblemastere JosJuice wrote: Could you explain why you want that? It sounds like a very weird feature. I'm all for adding a separate "remove disc" option, though. Wasn't the exact same question asked for the "Wiimote battery charge" setting? Since there are things you can't do like run out of charge or open a disc tray in a virtual space like an Emulator, having these sort of trivial things as an option just puts that little bit more "reality" into the equation. And besides, maybe an issue could be uncovered involving behavior when the disc tray is open! #10 - 10/09/2015 06:48 AM - JosJuice Like I said, I'm all for having an option to remove the disc. What I don't understand why it should happen when opening the disc change dialog. 09/23/2021 2/6 Looking for the disc image you want to insert is like looking for a real disc you want to insert, in that you don't have to eject the old disc until it actually is time to insert the new one. I think it would be confusing to have the disc change dialog do something by just opening it (or cancelling it...) #11 - 10/10/2015 02:23 AM - ProjectRevoTPP JosJuice wrote: Like I said, I'm all for having an option to remove the disc. What I don't understand why it should happen when opening the disc change dialog. Looking for the disc image you want to insert is like looking for a real disc you want to insert, in that you don't have to eject the old disc until it actually is time to insert the new one. I think it would be confusing to have the disc change dialog do something by just opening it (or cancelling it...) You know you can open the disc cover without taking the game out right? #12 - 10/10/2015 07:24 AM - pauldacheez - Subject changed from [Enhancement] Support Disc Cover being open to Change Disc doesn't actually open the disc cover, other disc manipulation tasks are missing - Status changed from New to Accepted Whether the disc is physically in there or not, when the disc cover's open, the game can't read the disc. The issue here is that we're not properly telling the game that the lid is open in our current disc-switching code, we're just swapping the disc without notifying the currently-running game (as evidenced by the first comment's example, whereas on real console you'd instantly get an open-cover message). Are we not blocking disc reads or forgetting to set a bit that the open-lid sensor sets or something? I'm amazed this functions at all for multi-disc games. I see plenty of valid complaints here about missing functionality (having the lid open indefinitely or having no disc in the drive); I'll ignore the UI part of the debate and just say that you should be able to do everything you can on real console. Since I took the time to test this, lemme give examples of behavior exhibited by my two real consoles (DOL-101 GameCube, early launch-era Wii) and the handful of games I had lying around: GameCube: games either instantly complain when you open the cover ("Please close the disc cover.") or they delay their complaining until the next disc read ("Please close the disc cover to continue."). Removing the disc (and optionally inserting another) and closing the lid makes them ask for their original disc ("This disc is not [game]. Please insert the [game] Game Disc." or just the latter sentence if no disc was inserted), at which point you can press Reset to reboot back to IPL. (Reset is a soft button, e.g. the game handles its signal, so it'd normally flush most of the RAM and send you back to the title logos, but when there's no disc or a different disc in the drive, it resets the console completely. Games that delay their complaints to the next disc read don't need to display any of these disc-related messages before pressing Reset does this.) Wii (Wii discs, firmware 4.2U): games generally just complain instantly when you eject the disc ("Please insert the disc for [game]."), and pressing Reset (still a soft button; signal's probably still handled by the game, but it probably calls Starlet to do most of the actual reset work anyway) sends you back to the Wii menu with whatever method pressing Home > Wii Menu uses (e.g. it shows the "grey channels" animation before showing the home menu). Wii (GameCube discs, MIOS v10): when ejected, games act like the disc cover's open ("Please close the disc cover."). Inserting another game's disc makes them ask for their original disc ("This disc is not [game]. Please insert the [game] Game Disc."); games attempt to read the disc regardless of whether it's a GameCube or Wii disc. Reset reboots the console entirely (e.g. "Health & Safety" white-text-on-black-screen, then home menu). There seems to be no way to get it to a state where games think the disc cover's closed without a disc inside. 09/23/2021 3/6 #13 - 10/10/2015 08:04 AM - JosJuice Dolphin is supposed to open the cover when a disc is ejected. Maybe there is something wrong with the implementation. https://github.com/dolphin-emu/dolphin/commit/61da252858644b1ca52b4e3eac1317854fb17977 #14 - 10/12/2015 04:03 AM - windows4ya - File Screenshot (13).png added ProjectRevoTPP wrote: Mario Party 4 has the "Tray is open" message when the cover is open on a real Gamecube, but this causes the game to crash on the emulator when changing the disc to another before resetting, preventing us from switching games programmatically (MP4 to MP6).
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