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This Is Winnie Woodruff.] World War II Memories Dick Schumacher Woodruff [This is Winnie Woodruff.] Today is December 18th, 2006, and I am interviewing Dick Schumacher for the second time in his home at 107 Silver Spur in Horseshoe Bay, Texas. We will start with information about your beginning—when and where were you born, what were your parents’ names and where did you spend your childhood? Schumacher I was born in Canton, Ohio, on September 4, 1916. My mother and father, Robert and Sarah Schumacher, were both from Hartville, Ohio. We lived Ohio State in Canton where I spent all my early years. 1938 Then I went to Ohio State and graduated from there in 1938 and went to Commis- work for the Manufactures Light and Heat Company which was a sioned as subsidiary of the Columbia Gas System in Pittsburgh. I was there for Ensign three years and then got a commission as a probationary ensign until I completed a course at the Harvard Business School in supply corps procedures and then was assigned to my first billet at the Naval Supply Depot in Philadelphia. Woodruff Where and when did you enlist? Schumacher I applied for a commission in the Supply Corps and was accepted and sent to the Navy Supply Corps School in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Woodruff What were the factors that influenced you to join the Navy? Schumacher I had a very low draft number for one thing. And I didn’t want to serve in the trenches. In the Navy you normally had a clean place to sleep and you knew where your next meal was coming from. Woodruff Where were you on December 7, 1941? Schumacher I was in Philadelphia. Woodruff Who were you with and what was their reaction? Schumacher I don’t think I was with anyone in particular. I was in the service in Philadelphia at the Naval Supply Corps at the Naval Supply Depot. Woodruff Do you have any other special recollections of that time—that day? Schumacher Not really. You know—disbelief, of course, like everybody had. I knew Page 1 of 12 Burnet County Library System All Rights Reserved World War II Memories Dick Schumacher that it was going to make a change in my life. Woodruff And what about your training? Where and how long and what type? Schumacher I had three months training at the Harvard Business School learning the Supply Corps manual and learning how things worked in the supply Training at department in the Navy. That’s the main part of the training—and then Harvard they sent you to a duty station. Woodruff And how were you transported from training to your first duty assignment? Schumacher I believe I had leave at the end of Supply Corps School and went back to Canton, Ohio, and then from there went to Philadelphia, probably on a train. I remember I flew from Cleveland to Boston when I went to the Supply Corps School, but I don’t remember exactly how I got from Canton to Philadelphia. Woodruff What was your first duty assignment? Schumacher I was in the Receiving Department for the supply department for the Navy Yard and they were engaged at that time in building two battleships—the Navy Yard Wisconsin and the New Jersey. This was in Philadelphia. at Philadelphia And as a junior ensign—this is a little aside here—that my signature got completely awry. Because as a junior ensign in the Receiving Department at that time, every public voucher had to be manually signed. Later on they stamped them, but when I was there, you had a stack of about 250 public vouchers at the end of the day. And I had to sign every one of those. Woodruff Did you have to check them at all or did you just sign them? Schumacher You just signed it and got it out of the way. Woodruff And you had such a nice, long name to be signing—did you change your name? Schumacher It got to be “D. L. Schum”—and a big long tail. It was a kind of shorthand. Woodruff What were your living conditions like then? Schumacher When I first went to Philadelphia, I think I stayed in a hotel for a while until I found an apartment. Then I had a roommate. We shared an Page 2 of 12 Burnet County Library System All Rights Reserved World War II Memories Dick Schumacher apartment there in Philadelphia for about 16 months. Woodruff And your clothing, equipment, weapons, mealtime-- Schumacher We had a uniform allowance which incidentally at that time required a sword and I still have the sword with my name engraved on it. That was part of the uniform allowance. I think maybe they had $50 for the sword because you had enough money to get a couple of uniforms--dress uniforms and regular uniforms. But that was all—you were given cash and then you went to a tailor in Philadelphia and had it made. Woodruff So it was really like a full-time job. You lived in your own apartment and were responsible for your own meals. Schumacher Yes, I just commuted. The Navy Yard was at the end of South Broad Street so I could commute there every day. Woodruff Who were you closest to during that time? Did you stay together throughout the war? Schumacher No, there was one person that I shared an apartment with, a man named Stan Graff. Friend Stan Graff He had been a football player at Stanford and was in the apartment with me for about a year and then was sent to Morocco for the North African invasion. He was in the Supply Corps, too. There were a lot of supply officers at the Navy Yard who were Philadelphia Mainliners, brokers, lawyers—people like that who had received direct commissions. Woodruff When did you go on a ship? Schumacher I went from Philadelphia to the Chicago Bridge and Iron Co. shipyards in Seneca, Illinois, and from there—it was about a three-month tour of USS duty—and then from there I was assigned to the commissioning detail for Ashland the U.S.S. Ashland. That was in March of 1943 and the ship was put into commission in June. So that’s when I went to it--in June of 1943. Woodruff And what were your immediate superiors like? Schumacher The first commanding officer we had was a Britisher. He had been in the Merchant Marines and had a commission as a lieutenant commander and put the ship in commission. Page 3 of 12 Burnet County Library System All Rights Reserved World War II Memories Dick Schumacher He was the commanding officer for about six months or so and then we had a Naval Academy four-striper assigned as commanding officer. The first commanding officer was a different sort of individual because the British Navy runs their ships for the officers rather than for the crew and were pretty tough on the men. I think that’s why he was transferred. But the second commander was a very good officer. Woodruff Any interesting stories related to any of them or others? This was before—when was the Jeep incident? [See Memo to Paul Adams, June 15, 1999.] Schumacher That was when we left—he came to Pearl Harbor—he came after we had already gone off to Pearl. I can’t remember the name of the first Captain commanding officer right now. But the second commanding officer, Atkison Captain Atkison, was the one who wanted the Jeep. That was when we had gone to Pearl Harbor and then to Baker Island. We came back to Pearl and Kwajalein and Eniwetok and then they sent us back to the states to get new furniture and re-provision the ship and so forth and that’s when we got the Jeep. Woodruff Were you in battle? Schumacher I was in eight major assault operations. That would be Tarawa, Kwajalein, Eniwetok, Saipan, Tinian, Leyte, Lingayen and Iwo Jima. I 8 major left the ship after Iwo Jima. [See History of USS Ashland] assault operations Woodruff Were you ever in frightening circumstances? Were you ever torpedoed? Schumacher We were under submarine attacks several times, under air attacks several times. The ship was never hit, but we spent a lot of time at General Quarters. Woodruff And this was in 1943? Schumacher This was in ’43, ’44 and early ’45. Woodruff Were you corresponding with anybody at that time? Did you have time for that? Schumacher Letters to my family because I was single at that time. Woodruff Did you receive any packages? Anything special that you can remember? Page 4 of 12 Burnet County Library System All Rights Reserved World War II Memories Dick Schumacher Schumacher Not anything in particular. Woodruff What were the concerns of your family and friends during that time? Schumacher They were sending letters to the fleet post office—they didn’t know where we were. And we weren’t allowed to tell them where we were. Woodruff Was anybody ever killed or wounded? Schumacher Some fatalities. There was one I know of--on a garbage run of all things—the boat capsized and the crew was lost. And we had injuries to Mission – troops because the mission of the Ashland was to carry Sherman tanks— carry medium tanks-- to an assault area. The ship ballasted down to disembark Sherman the tank-loaded LCM landing crafts and they went in on the assault tanks operation. After that the boats were used to transfer personnel and materiel back and forth and those people were under fire whenever they were going in on a beach and there were some people wounded.
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