Page 1 1 2 3 MARJORY STONEMAN DOUGLAS HIGH SCHOOL 4 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION METING 5 6 BB&T Center, Chairman's Club 7 1 Panther Parkway 8 Sunrise, Florida 33323 9 10 June 7, 2018 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 2 1 COMMISSION MEMBERS/ATTENDEES: 2 SHERIFF BOB GUALTIERI, Chair 3 JASON JONES, PSC General Counsel 4 CHRIS NELSON, Chief of Police - City of Auburndale 5 BRUCE BARTLETT, Chief Assistant to State Attorney - Sixth Judicial Circuit 6 RICHARD SWEARINGEN, Commissioner - Florida 7 Department of Law Enforcement 8 MAX SCHACHTER, Parent of Victim 9 LARRY R. ASHLEY, Sheriff - Okaloosa County (via phone) 10 MELISSA LARKIN SKINNER, CEO - Centerstone of Florida 11 PAM STUART, Commissioner of Education 12 JUSTIN SENIOR, Secretary - AHCA 13 CHRISTI DALY, Secretary - Department of Juvenile 14 Justice 15 MICHAEL CARROLL, Secretary - DCF 16 JAMES HARPRING, Undersheriff/GC - Indian River County 17 DESMOND BLACKBURN, Superintendent - Brevard County 18 GRADY JUDD, Sheriff - Polk County 19 DOUG DODD, Member - Citrus County School Board 20 LAUREN BOOK, Senator - District 32 21 RYAN PETTY, Parent of Victim 22 MARSHA POWERS, Member - Martin County School Board 23 KEVIN LYSTAD, President - Florida Police Chief 24 Association 25 CHRISTINA LINTON, Commission Staff - FDLE Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 3 1 MARK GREENWALD, Director - Research & Data Integrity, Department of Juvenile Justice 2 JACOB OLIVA, Executive Vice Chancellor - K-12 Public 3 Schools 4 MICHAELLE POPE, Executive Director of Student Support Initiatives- Broward County 5 LINDA CHAMPION, Deputy Commissioner - Department of 6 Education 7 EDWARD UPTHEGROVE, Program Administrator - Florida Crime Prevention Institute 8 ART HUSHEN, President & Owner - National Institute 9 of Crime Prevention 10 BOB KOWALSKI, Deputy Assistant Secretary - Department of Homeland Security, Office of 11 Infrastructure Protection 12 13 Also present: 14 APRIL SCHENTRUP, Parent of Victim 15 TONY MONTALTO, Parent of Victim 16 CRAIG DEWERFF, with Rauland Incorporation 17 TIMOTHY STEINBERG, Former Assistant Principal of Pine Ridge Education Center 18 KRISTEN JACOBS, Representative - District 96 19 DANIEL SOHN, City Councilman - Town of Haverhill 20 JOSEPH VALCARCEL, Owner - Safeway Security Services 21 SHAWN VERNE, Expert in communications technology 22 MICHAEL SIRBOLA 23 KRISTINA BRAZIEL 24 25 Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 4 1 (Thereupon, the following meeting was had:) 2 CHAIR: We'll call to order the meeting of 3 the Marjory Stoneman Douglas Public Safety 4 Commission for June 7, 2018. If you would 5 please stand and join me in a moment of silence 6 to remember and honor the seventeen people who 7 lost their lives on February 14th, the 8 seventeen others who were injured, and the 9 countless other victims whose lives will be 10 forever changed. 11 (Thereupon, a moment of silence was had.) 12 CHAIR: Thank you. Please join me in the 13 pledge. 14 (Thereupon, the Pledge of Allegiance was had.) 15 CHAIR: All the Commissioners should have 16 received in your agenda packet a copy of the 17 minutes from our April 24th meeting. Does 18 anybody have any additions/corrections to those 19 minutes that you received? Do I have a motion 20 to approve the minutes? 21 SHER. JUDD: Motion. 22 SEN. BOOK: Second. 23 CHAIR: A motion from Sheriff Judd, and a 24 second by Senator Book. Any other comment? 25 All in favor, aye? Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 5 1 (Aye.) 2 CHAIR: Any opposed, same? That motion 3 passes, and the minutes from the April 24th 4 meeting are approved and adopted. I'm going to 5 turn over for a moment to our general counsel, 6 and the general counsel for the Florida 7 Department of Law Enforcement, Jason Jones, 8 just as a brief discussion again on the 9 Sunshine Law. Jason. 10 MR. JONES: This is just a friendly 11 reminder of the Sunshine Law, and that we're 12 governed by that. So, just to remind everyone, 13 that means that even though we're here for the 14 meeting that means you cannot have 15 conversations with each other outside of the 16 open portions of this meeting about stuff that 17 might come before the Commission. And just be 18 careful of outside conversations that you're 19 having during the meeting going on. Even if 20 it's about something else, it may appear as if 21 you're talking about something that we are 22 discussing that needs to be heard for everyone. 23 So, that's just a friendly reminder, and thank 24 you. 25 CHAIR: All right, thank you, Jason. I Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 6 1 want to bring you up to speed on a change in 2 the makeup of the Commission. I received 3 yesterday a resignation letter from Andrew 4 Pollock, and I will read that letter to you: 5 "To the members of the Marjory Stoneman 6 Douglas Public Safety Commission: At this time, 7 please accept my resignation from the MSD 8 Public Safety Commission. I thank you for the 9 opportunity to serve on this Board. I will be 10 spending my time helping to elect individuals 11 to the Broward County School Board that will 12 ensure our schools are safe. It is my 13 intention to get individuals elected to our 14 School Board that will take preventative 15 measures in keeping our schools safe. I will 16 also be spending my time and resources on an 17 independent investigation that will get to the 18 bottom of who is responsible for the atrocities 19 that occurred in our school on Valentine's Day 20 2018, the last Valentine's Day that I would 21 ever spend with my daughter. It's my intention 22 to make sure that all of the individuals and 23 agencies that are responsible for this massacre 24 be held legally accountable. I have full faith 25 that the members of this commission will get Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 7 1 the answers that they are seeking, and that 2 they will continue to make sure that 3 preventative measures are taken, and that our 4 schools can be made safe. With kind regards, I 5 remain very truly yours, Andrew Pollock." 6 We have copies of this, so for the media 7 that's here, you can get with FDLE PIO Gretel 8 Plessinger, and she has copies of Mr. Pollock's 9 resignation letter. I know you're going to want 10 it, so we've already made copies, and they are 11 available for you. I'll work with Governor 12 Scott's Office, as Mr. Pollock was one of 13 Governor Scott's appointees, and work with 14 Governor Scott to see who he wants to appoint 15 to replace Mr. Pollock. 16 So, as everybody knows, we have set two 17 day per month meetings for every month now 18 through November. You have a schedule of those 19 meetings in your agenda packet, and in your 20 book. All of your staff should have received 21 that, so you could calendar those meetings. 22 But, our next meeting will be here in Broward 23 County on July 10th and 11th. This month's 24 meeting and the July meeting are going to focus 25 on providing knowledge base for Commission Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 8 1 members on the investigative topics that we 2 agreed upon at our last meeting, in that those 3 that we're required to investigate by statute. 4 In August, we're going to begin hearing from 5 the investigators and learn the results of 6 their work regarding the approved investigative 7 topics. 8 There's been a lot of work done to prepare 9 for today and tomorrow's meetings, and I want 10 to talk for a minute about the meetings today 11 and next month. As we know from looking around 12 the room, this is a very interdisciplinary 13 commission. We have diverse backgrounds, and 14 varying levels of knowledge in the areas that 15 we're charged with investigating. It's 16 therefore important that we get everyone on the 17 same knowledge page, and that everyone has the 18 background information to establish the proper 19 framework within which to evaluate the facts 20 and the evidence. 21 If we don't do that we're making 22 uninformed, or under informed decisions, and in 23 essence decisions in a vacuum as we begin to 24 hear the evidence and learn the facts and 25 uncover in an objective way what occurred. So, Veritext Legal Solutions 800-726-7007 305-376-8800 Page 9 1 all that has to be measured against something, 2 and that's what we're going to do today, 3 tomorrow, and in July. So, in these meetings 4 we're going to hear from subject matter experts 5 with a wide variety of expertise in areas that 6 are relevant who will help us gain an 7 understanding of the basics in these varied 8 areas, and then again in August we'll begin 9 hearing from the investigators. 10 In our first commission meeting back in 11 April, we asked to hear presentations on 12 several different topics, and these are the 13 topics that you all asked for, and so what 14 you're going to hear today, and tomorrow, and 15 then again in July, are speakers who are 16 subject matter experts on those areas that you 17 all identified that you wanted to know more 18 about before we move forward in learning the 19 results of the investigative efforts.