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Continue I read Saracen Archery, which is freely available as a PDF here. I led this Lars Andersen viral Youtube video on the topic of shooting speed. I became interested in finding evidence of high-speed shooting in the past and its use in operations. With a fascination with the speed of shooting generated by Lars Andersen's video, I became intrigued by the concept, especially given my doubts about Andersen's historical claims. Indeed, some of the things said in the narrative video are false, and proven to be the very historical texts he quotes (Arabic archery and Saracen archery). For example, how could he say that the purpose of archery was unknown in the past, and that the back quiver is a Hollywood myth when both are mentioned in these texts for me. But I was also curious to know whether the impressive shooting speed that Andersen demonstrates was so accurately possible with bows that ancient archers would have used to wage . It is clear from archaeological and literary sources that the military archers of the East and West will shoot bows with a draw weighing from 100 to 150 fore. Is it really possible to shoot 3 arrows in less than 2 seconds with a bow requiring such force and still consistently hit its target? Enter Saracens archery, and two passes (from pages 141 and 142 in the text bound above) that describe both the speed at which the average Saracens war archer is expected to shoot (3 arrows in 1.5 seconds) and practice getting a good grouping from 75 yards (the desired diameter of the grouping was 3 feet). Pound onions and the speed of flying arrows are not mentioned. I only know from my own experience that the arrows shot at the target 80 yards with 30 ib bows take about 3 seconds to land in the right place. If we put the next two passes against grouping and speed together, we can conclude - albeit without certainty - that saracen archers will shoot 3 arrows before the first arrow has even landed, and they have undoubtedly done so with bows weighing more than 100 ibs! In literature and legends of many countries there are stories about almost incredible shots made by archers, and in our time really were made wonderful shots. Such feats, however, can be seen as isolated cases representing the perfect shot of the many thousands made. In our text, on the other hand, we have a rare and important guide to the standard of accuracy expected from every archer. He owes a group of his arrows in a circle about 3 feet in diameter to 75 yards. The ability to do this with wooden shafts and without the help of a sighting device such as can be mounted on a bow by a modern archer requires a very high level of accuracy and speaks of a well-trained and experienced bowman. However, it is within reach of anyone who will with diligence. In terms of view for the modern reader, the standard of speed that the author sets for archer is the ability to discharge 3 arrows in about 1/5 of a second. It's a quick time, and the first reaction is surprising that such a high level, which few, if any, Western bowmen today could expect from the overall launch of Mameluke Archers. However, this is an achievable standard, as evidenced by the achievement of today's Saxton Pope, which excelled on a number of occasions in shooting 7 arrows in 8 seconds (Elmer, Target Archery, p. 428-30). Accuracy naturally decreases with increasing speed, and field tests show that it is difficult to exceed 8 well-directed shots per minute. However, there is no doubt that the Muslim archers could shoot at high speed and, given the large enough target, hit all the shots. During the Second Crusade, Wilhelm Thirsky, who must have been in conversation with the performance of his bowmen, repeatedly remarked on the dexterity of the enemy archer: The Saracen cavalry... started shooting thicker and faster than one might believe, perhaps a fairly typical period commentary (Smail, Crusading Warfare, page 76-77 and nn. 8, 9). In modern , the speed of projection of missiles, multiplied by their weight or explosive force, gives what is called firepower. If we can be justified by anachronism and, in the context of admittedly ridiculous, the use of words for a yet legitimate purpose, then the firepower of the crossbow, shooting 2 x 800 grams. rockets per minute, will be 1600 grams. per minute and can be compared to archery 8 x 400 grams, or 3200 UAH per minute. Firepower combined with mobility is the point at which modern military teaching puts great stress, and it is this combination that undoubtedly contributed to the effectiveness of Muslim equestrian archers in their heyday. This 3 arrows can actually be regularly shot in about 1.5 seconds we don't matter; we only regret that we were not told exactly how the arrows should be held in order to shoot with such elasticity. Authors : Faris Nabich Amin - Elmer Robert Potter Title : Saracen archery English version and exposure mameluke work on archery (ca. A.D. 1368) Year : Link download : Saracen_Archery.zip Conceived as contnbution to the history of archery, this, the book is primarily intended for toxicite, whose spirit of investigation carries it beyond the realm of archery, as a modern sport in the world of a medieval warrior, for which the bow was much more than a pastime. ... Thank you for your interest in our services. We are a non-profit group that runs this website for document sharing. We need your help to maintain this site. To keep our website running, we need your help to cover our to the server (about $400/m), a small donation will help us a lot. Please help us share our service with Friends. When I first came across the following video, I admit that I was very excited, but I was also very skeptical. What we have here is some fantastic trick shooting techniques by Lars Andersen, and don't get me wrong, they're amazing. Lars appears to have revived a number of ancient archery techniques that were lost when the gun appeared, combing through thousands of ancient texts to restore these forgotten art. But on closer inspection, it seems that he has taken on a number of techniques that are not so much forgotten as relegated to circus acts and laughed from the battlefield. Roll 1: Critical MissThere is a few dubious historical claims that I could easily dismiss in a video with only a vague background in Middle Eastern and European history, and a few more that have been questioned by my own archery experience. First of all, who claims that the oldest, best or most authentic method is probably peddling something, and of course, I've found that it is here. We can start with simpler questions though, and move on to more complex problems after that. The simplest problem is that I immediately doubted simply because I had killed a live affair with a bow before. Most of these methods will not be fatal ... some of them wouldn't even be very intimidating. Let me clear the air here before I get uphill: I wouldn't want to be shot, and I don't want anyone to shoot the bow of any drawstrength in any context. It is messy and painful and potentially crippling, but the videos are directly claiming to be military use and come from military hardware, so it should be analyzed in terms of military history. Now, in Canada and the United States, and many other countries around the world, there are lower limits throughout the bow. Hunting bows usually need to be priced over 50lbs because nothing less than this is just not going to reliably and effectively kill a living thing. I freely admit that Lars is built considerably more directly than I am, but he uses a 50lb bow, and most of his methods would be impossible for anything more than 80. Now, I just said that 50lbs is enough to kill something, yes, however, the government has put that limit with the assumption that people would like to kill rabbits at less than 10 yards away. 50lbs is enough to kill a deer, no doubt, and the deer is basically like an 80lb naked man, however, in one video you see Lars standing in front of a clean green cloth designed to stop the arrow being launched from another man's bow. What would happen if he stood behind this cloth? Doesn't Lars look like he weighs more than 80 pounds? What if he was 60 yards away? It's not a very effective . Next: his actual technique of drawing and shooting. It's painfully obvious. that onion didn't turn all the way back, which would mean that the 50lb bow was significantly disabled. Recurve bows are specifically designed to only give them full weight when fully drawn to reduce fatigue, so it's probably drawing on something like 20-30lbs, something akin to throwing arrows very, very hard. What's more; The technique he uses for quick shooting without a thumb ring is called theading string, and it makes a really cool sound as well as breaking the flight arrows at a distance that is not shown because all the shots are at close range. Also, the reason target archers carry only one arrow at a time is that you have to open your hand to avoid plucking, and this will obviously lead to the fall of the remaining arrows. Finally, while his stunt shooting is absolutely stunning and enviable, the shooting trick is neither lost nor Saracen archery technique. Hitting tiny targets at relatively close range, or even small targets at surprisingly long range, is very cool, very wonderful, very modern shooting. Now the story is a bit. Yes, as a historian, I sometimes take things too seriously, but you all just have to deal with it. First of all: Why archery is done at range. Historically, there were a number of reasons why archers would fight at close range, and none of them included that they decided to do so, and they all included that they had no other at hand. Learning to shoot effectively at close range is a neat skill, but so it's almost lost to the art of the Kung Fu paddle boat. Both of them have about the same practicality, which is to say if you run out of literally any other option you will absolutely surprise people who are about to inevitably kill you. Let's appreciate the beauty of the medieval pike for a moment. Well done! Now you can see that these lovely people are not particularly interested in your flips, and that said flips are considerably harder and pierced. These beauties, the most common weapon in most medieval European battles, exclude fighting at distances closer than 4 yards or so (almost all shots made in video), and the fact that people can run eliminates shooting effectively at 5-10 yards, and after about 10 yards we no longer talk about archery at close range anymore... That's why archery at close range isn't really a thing. Further, as I said earlier, 50lb bow is an effective way to kill a naked 80lb man who is 10 meters away, but medieval archers, those who actually change the methods of combat and who are actually responsible for the fall of some ancient practitioners, tend to kill prefer men dressed in steel on top of horses for 200 yards. Wearing a medieval European plate before, and being struck by the broad word while so armored, I really think I might be ready to up to Lars semi-cocked 50 pound, if I were 200 meters away. In less than a minute he could have missed me three times. Now, I have a little explaining to do because Lars makes some interesting points. First, the ancient archers seem to hold a few arrows while firing, and I'll go back and forth right here to explain one quick point: There is a need for close range, fast-moving archery, and that's with cavalry archers. From pharaohs in chariots to Mongols on their chunky horses, cavalry archers often blitz into cramped quarters, unleash hell, and bolt again before anyone notices (well, they've probably noticed). Their bows were often lighter weight, they had to shoot as fast and hard as possible and they used different techniques than the foot archers did. The glory of the British was great, but not for long. It was a howitzer of bows, maxing out power, range and damage, but taking years to master. At 200lb drawstrenght, it will take considerable preparation just to draw. And then something was invented that could penetrate the armor at close range and that even a child could be able to go. Enter the Musket, stage leftBy the time the Europeans came up with firearms, their local arms race completely eliminate the need for cavalry archery, so yes, these methods were largely lost to Europeans (except for all exceptions like Eastern Europe). By the time the Europeans began exporting the musket to the Saracen lands (usually Burrell-first), the latter had missed several steps, and the ancient techniques of cavalry shooting were knocked out of their heads by tiny metal balls. But this should be emphasized once again that I am not talking about any of the methods used by Lars as he has yet to appear in any of his videos on top of the charging horse. The fact that this video emphasizes military application and historical accuracy is the only problem I have with it. It's an amazing shot, I'll always say that, but it has nothing to do with real army practice or with Saracens. In fact it may have something to do with Saracens, as it has made up a name for non-existent people, just as these methods are made up. (They are called Arabs, Persians or Muslims, depending on who you are actually talking to). Think about it, it is only natural that someone will get their mystical technique of archery from mystical time of mystical knowledge. Well, in general, it's sad that this isn't some secret Muslim archery technique that we can revive and use to win all the Olympics (or fight , as Lars emphatically implies in other videos). But, on the other hand, it is an impostor to learn something from from Lars (except for his crazy trick shooting skillz). When we work to revive real historical knowledge, and there are real lost art out there to be discovered, we need to make sure to do it carefully and and and so we neither step on the feet of other peoples nor damage the integrity of a very something that we hope to restore. Restore. saracen archery free pdf

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