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Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Fourth Session- Thirty-Sixth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Louise M. Dacquay Speaker Vol. XLVIII No. 718-1:30 p.m., Thursday, June 25, 1998 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Sixth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ASHTON, Steve Thompson N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky Wellington N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise, Hon. Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Roblin-Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary Concordia N.D.P. DOWNEY, James, Hon. Arthur-Virden P.C. DRIEDGER, Albert Steinbach P.C. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside P.C. EVANS, Clif Interlake N.D.P. EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East N.D.P. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo P.C. FINDLAY, Glen, Hon. Springfield P.C. FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley N.D.P. GAUDRY, Neil St. Boniface Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa P.C. HELWER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KOWALSKI, Gary The Maples Lib. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord St. Johns N.D.P. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McALPINE, Gerry Sturgeon Creek P.C. McCRAE, James, Hon. Brandon West P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane Osborne N.D.P. MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia P.C. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn St. James N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East P.C. NEWMAN, David, Hon. Riel P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PITURA, Frank, Hon. Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet P.C. RADCLIFFE, Mike, Hon. River Heights P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack, Hon. Niakwa P.C. RENDER, Shirley St. Vital P.C. ROBINSON, Eric Rupertsland N.D.P. ROC AN, Denis Gladstone P.C. SALE, Tim Crescent wood N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Broadway N.D.P. STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin N.D.P. SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye P.C. TOEWS, Vic, Hon. Rossmere P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. Fort Garry P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River N.D.P. 4865 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, June 25, 1998 The House met at 1:30 p.m. THAT gambling is now the Manitoba government's third largest revenue source behind only income tax ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS and sales tax; and PRESENTING PETITIONS THAT the provincial government doubled lottery advertising in 1996,· and Mining Reserve Fund THAT the Manitoba government has become more Mr. Gerard Jennissen (Fiin Flon): I beg to present dependent upon gambling revenues than any other the petition of E. Fox, D. Scott, B. Fox and others province; and praying that the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba �ay be pleased to request the Minister of Energy and Mmes THAT the number of the tragedies involving people (Mr. Newman) to consider transferring the account of who have lost their savings homes and in some cases the Mining Reserve Fund to a banking service in Lynn their lives following gambling addiction continues to Lake should such a facility meet provincial standards. grows; and Community VLT Plebiscites THAT the provincial government spends less than 1 percent of its VLT profits on gambling treatment Mr. Doug Martindale (Burrows): I beg to present the programs; and petition ofT. Bode, A. Peeling, D. Finnigan and others praying that the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba urge THAT the Manitoba Lottery Policy Review Working the Premier (Mr. Filmon) to consider permitting Group, amongst many others have requested that communities to hold plebiscites on VLTs, reducing communities be allowed to hold plebiscites on banning gambling advertising and increasing funding for VLTs as is allowed in Alberta and Saskatchewan. treatment of problem gamblers. WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERSHUMBLY PRAY READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS THAT the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba urge the Premier (Mr. Filmon) to consider permitting Community VLT Plebiscites communities to hold plebiscites on VLTs; reducing gambling advertising and increasing funding for Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the treatment of problem gamblers. honourable member for St. James (Ms. Mihychuk), and it complies with the rules and practices of the House. Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? honourable member for Burrows (Mr. Martindale), and An Honourable Member: Dispense. it complies with the rules and practices of the House. Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? Madam Speaker: Dispense. No. Dispense. THAT in 10 years the current government has THAT in 10 years the current government has increased gambling revenues from $55 million to more increased gambling revenues from $55 million to more than $220 million annually; and than $220 million annually,· and THAT the introduction and the proliferation of video THAT the introduction and the proliferation of video lottery terminals in virtually every licensed premises lottery terminals in virtually every licensed premises across the province has resulted in Manitoba having across the province has resulted in Manitoba having nearly 5,000 VLTs, the most per capita in the country; nearly 5,000 VLTs, the most percapita in the country,· and and 4866 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA June 25, 1998 THAT gambling is now the Manitoba government's advise the minister of the need to consider establishing third largest revenue source behind only income tax an independent judicial review committee to report to and sales tax; and the Legislature on ways in which our judicial system may better serve the public of Manitoba. THAT the provincial government doubled lottery Petition advertising in 1996; and PRESENTING REPORTS BY THAT the Manitoba government has become more STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES dependent upon gambling revenues than any other province; and Standing Committee on Law Amendments Seventh Report THAT the number of the tragedies involving people who have lost their savings homes and in some cases Mr. Jack Penner (Chairperson of the Standing their lives following gambling addiction continues to Committee on Law Amendments): I would like to grows; and present the Seventh Report of the Committee on Law Amendments. THAT the provincial government spends less than 1 percent of its VLT profits on gambling treatment An Honourable Member: Dispense. programs; and Madam Speaker: Dispense. THAT the Manitoba Lottery Policy Review Working Group, amongst many others have requested that Your committee met on Wednesday, June 24, 1998, at communities be allowed to hold plebiscites on banning 3 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building to VLTs as is allowed in Alberta and Saskatchewan. consider bills referred. WHEREFORE YOUR PETiTIONERS HUMBLY PRAY Your committee heard representation on bills as THAT the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba urge the follows: Premier (Mr. Fi/mon) to consider permitting communities to hold plebiscites on VLTs; reducing Bill 51-The Cooperatives and Consequential gambling advertising and increasing funding for Amendments Act; Loi sur les cooperatives et treatment of problem gamblers. modifications correlatives Independent Judicial Review Committee Rudy Comeau/!, Manitoba Co-operative Council Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the Michael Sinclair, Manitoba Pool Elevators honourable member fo r Inkster (Mr. Lamoureux), and Anders Bruun, Manitoba Pool Elevators it complies with the rules and practices of the House. It is the will of the House to have the petition read? Your committee has considered: An Honourable Member: Dispense. Bill 51-The Cooperatives and Consequential Amendments Act,· Loi sur les cooperatives et Madam Speaker: Dispense. modifications correlatives THAT an independent judiciary does not justifya total and has agreed to report the same with the following lack of public accountability; and amendments: THAT the lack of public confidence and the level of frustration in our judicial system continues to grow. MOTION: WHEREFORE your petitioners humbly pray that the THAT section 88 be struck out and the following Legislative Assembly of Manitoba may be pleased to substituted: June 25, 1998 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 4867 Application of The Securities Act (c) continuing as a body corporate under the laws of 88(1) The Securities Act another jurisdiction; {a) applies to the sale or issue by a cooperative of ifthe body corporate is authorized to enter into the securities of the cooperative where the securities may agreement by the laws of the jurisdiction in which the be issued or sold to the public; and body corporate is incorporated.; and {b) does not apply to the sale or issue by a cooperative MOTION: of THAT subsection 305(1) be amended in the part (i) membership shares of the cooperative, or preceding clause (a) by adding "under sub­ section 304(1)"after "amalgamate".; and (ii) securities of the cooperative where the sale or issue of the securities is restricted to members of the MOTION: cooperative and where only members of the cooperative are eligible to own the securities. THAT subsection 305(2) be amended by adding "under subsection 304(1)" after "two or more cooperatives".; Application of sections 89 to 91 and 88(2) Sections 89 to 91 MOTION: (a) apply to the sale or issue by a cooperative of THAT the following be added aftersubsection 306(6): (i) membership shares of the cooperative, or Amalgamations under clause 304(2)(a) (ii) securities of the cooperative where The Securities 306(7) Section 305 and subsections (1) to {6) of this Act does not apply to the issue or sale; and section apply, with necessary modifications, to the amalgamation of a cooperative and a body corporate (b) do not apply to the sale or issue of securities by a for the purpose of continuing as one cooperative under cooperative where The Securities Act applies to the this Act, as provided for in clause 304(2)(a), and, in issue or sale.; and this regard, a referenceto "cooperative" in section 305 includes the body corporate.
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