Subject: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:28:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looks like Smeagol beat me to creating one of these.

As I am sharing items between the three mods, spinning out a thread for weapon and item requests. Please include at a minimum: - link to more information - rational why I should be adding your favourite gun to three different mods (I've included a list of weapons already in-mod to avoid embarrassing incidents of duplication) - description to item (bonus points if it is usable in-game) - graphics (bonus points if they are usable in-game, and you are the artist so I don't need to track anyone down for permission)

Note, that with New Magazine System (NMS) in the works, this thread will be mostly to gather information for future "Advance Capability" versions of the mods that will be created after the current "offical" cycle of v1.13 releases. Specifically NMS, so far, has a few features that not only simplifies adding unique magazine capacities and multiple magazine capacities, but on considering what ChrisL has already stated to be his plans for NMS, features that can be exploited (ie. not ChrisL's intention, but I plan on abusing it for this purpose) to make supporting a common item list between multiple mods much easier...

EDIT (2016/10/03): This thread has been replaced by The 2nd Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS noticed the list was broken when clearing the Sticky flag on this thread. See the Common AFS/DL-1.13/UC-1.13 Weapons & Items FAQ for a list of items already in-game and notes on "special" functions/features.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:36:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Item request: Full-auto auto trigger group - attaching this item to a semi-auto weapon would give it full-auto capability (drooling after a full-auto Saiga-12 with a 20-round drum)

Might only be possible through merge though :/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:10:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i wish see some epansion power in old one[.233]http://www.triadtactical.com/Black-Hills-New-223-Rem-55gr-Soft-Point.html & some for light show

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:41:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Full-Auto Trigger Group - Yes, I would prefer this as an attachment. Before it turned into a discussion on the ultimate in kit guns, I made a request for this very feature. I could produce a full-auto Saiga via mergers, and a copy of the existing gun, but I really would prefer an attachment that did this (I could get rid of so many items with this feature). For now would adding the magic ACME 3-round burst trigger group to the Saiga be acceptable?

.223 Remington - Once NMS is out (which will make it so much easier), or cancelled (which would make continued stalling pointless) I intend to add some additional ammotypes:

Tracer - yeah this one makes sense Ball - probably the civilian variant I use to prevent ball 7.62x54mm Rimmed showing up with the enemy HP Match

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:58:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473For now would adding the magic ACME 3-round burst trigger group to the Saiga be acceptable? Totally!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 11:45:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message it posible add ar-18 in .223 ? please .. ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armalite_AR-18 something here maybe is interesting, here you have some ammo for sniper rifles http://www.conjay.com/Ammunition%20for%20Armor%20Testing%20NATO%20300%20and%203 38%20Lapua%20Magnum.htm

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 13 Aug 2011 22:20:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No hurry to add the AR-18 before NMS and related capabilities, but I did look up the graphics.

Of more immediate priority are attachments, or full conversions I can get away with just an attachment:

- found an EBR kit for the Garrand M1, something I couldn't find a month ago. http://www.sageinternationalltd.com/si/access/ebr.html

- partially going in the direction of AIMNAS with stocks. FN Minimi and variants will have an attachment that allows the attachment of one of the three existing AR-15 stocks.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:01:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/smg/ch/type-05-e.html http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/ch/qsz-92-e.html these is in regural 9x19mm ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:13:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hairysteed wanting to redo the M203 to a longer barrel version reminded me that I still haven't

Page 3 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit updated the 30x71mm (Sci-fi) grenades yet. This is something I wanted to do for DL-1.13, as the M41A1 Pulse Rifle features prominently there.

I'll be basing the shape of the replacement graphics on the examples here, http://uscmc.wikispaces.com/munitions#Cased%20Ammunition-30mm%20x%2070%20High%20V elocity%20Grenades but I'll be using the adjusting the colour scheme to that familiar to JA2.

EDIT (20110829): Ok, you better post screenshots of your mercs actually using it in-game Wolf00, I added the JS 9mm SMG ( Preivew of Next Release ), in the process found that the stats for the Type 05 it is based on are all wrong so it means I was able to squeeze some additional utility out of it. No point in adding another 9x19mm pistol though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:00:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just got back to making those launcher graphics. Since the standard M203 is a permanent add-on that needs to be attached by an armorer, would it make sense to make separate M16A1/M203 and M16A4/M203 versions that you'd get by merging the launcher with the M16A1 or M16A4 respectively, or would you prefer to have just the launcher graphics?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:22:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, the entire M203 implementation could do with some reworking. Due to the needs of Urban Chaos support, there's a minimum of three different M203's needed:

M203PI - covers the long barrel model, fits most every gun that takes the full size M203 (M16's, AUG's, Galili, and Tavor). The M16 style hand guard is not entirely appropriate for this one.

M203A1 - covers the short barrel model, fits M4 and HK MP5 via NAS adapter, I'm also seeing that it should fit other weapons as well. This one will keep the stock v1.13 graphic once the long barrel version is available.

Modded M203 - from UC, this one only fits full size M16's, so the hand guard would be good (the original UC graphic has one)

Options:

1) change graphics for M203PI (no hand guard) and Modded M203 (hand guard) - EDIT: this means there will be a visual distinction between long range and short range M203's already in the mod, no real changes except perhaps a clean-up of which guns may use the launchers.

2) add M203's

Page 4 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit - Old-style M203 - hand guard, permanent attachment, only attaches to M16's, cheaper and earlier availability - M203PI/M203A2 - no hand guard, attaches to M16, non-RIS weapons like the AUG-A1 and Galili, and RIS hand guards

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:36:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Actually the PI and A1 are the shorter 9 inch barrel version while the Standard M203 and M203A2 are the 12 inch versions which can fit the full-length 20 inch barrel AR-15s as well as the 14.5 inch M4s

I've only seen pictures of the 9 inch barrel version mounted on weapons other than the AR-15 family. Curiously I haven't seen pictures of 12 inch M203s mounted on the C7 although I can't see a reason why It shouldn't fit.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:49:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Right, still can get away with the following minimum item M203 scheme:

Old Style M203 (12" new graphic, hand guard) - M16 only, permanent attachment, cheap and early availability Modded M203 (12" new graphic, hand guard) - M16 only, permanent attachment, UC-1.13 only (in-map) M203A1/PI (9" old graphic) - fits non-RIS/US weapons, M4 and MP5 with, permanent attachment M203A2 (12" new graphic, no hand guard) - fits any "sturdy" RIS, in-game it's niche will be as the no-frills RIS launcher

This way I only have to add one new launcher, but definitely will need to cleanup which guns get which M203.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:31:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I started with the M203A2 and did it the easy way: I just took the M203PI and gave it a longer barrel

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Bonus: An M16A4 Flat-top without the carrying handle:

Thought I'd make M203 versions of the full-length M16 rifles. Interface versions to come

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:41:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thanks Hairysteed, I got a start with adding your graphics last night. Did a minor edit to the interface for the M16A4, gave it visible "bumps" to represent the RIS. Adding the M203 (old style) was easy, the hard part is going to be reworking the others ones.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:47:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message this one is really old but still can be interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM148_grenade_launcher one question about magazine extender for cz 52 or tokarev tt 33... from 8rounds to 12 ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:25:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message XM148 - would anyone use a hard to finicky repair launcher, especially with all the penalties I attach to them?

M203 scheme - nomenclature changes:

Page 6 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit M203PI = M203A1, 9" M203, 230m range M203 Quick Detach (M203QD) = M203A2, or 12" M203 usable on "sturdy" RIS, 300m range M203 = 12" M203 that permanently attaches, 330m range (for comparison the M79 has 350m range)

The M203QD will not be able to attach to every RIS hand guard weapon that the M203PI can.

EDIT: Hairysteed, if you have a moment, please check the running preview of the next patch(es) for accuracy concerning your artwork http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=290040#Post290 040

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:51:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I just noticed that the MG3, M60 and CETME Ameli weren't in the mod (not that I miss them... ok maybe I do).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:37:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M60 and CETME Ameli should be in the mod (all of them). Since there are already a bunch of out of sequence weapons, no reason not to add the MG3.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:33:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/assault/ch/type-63-e.html mix your ak-47 witch your sks & you can get this one.. http://www.nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=361&group_id=5&country_id=88&lang=0

maybe this ugly one have chance ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:05:50 GMT

Page 7 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sure, the graphics for the Ruger-30 I added was produced the same way. Similarly, the Type 63 implementation can conveniently overlook the magazine size mismatch (20 for both Type 63 and Ruger-30) until NMS makes it really easy to add a 20 round 7.62x39mm magazine (by virtue of NMS only needing one item added to achieve this).

Same for the extended magazines you asked for earlier Wolf00, with NMS quite a few expanded magazines will be implemented.

EDIT: Adding the Mexican FX-05 Xiuhcoatl, another gun to make use of the NCTH Recoil Delay feature, and folding stock that adjusts for length.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:18:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Bren L4A4 7.62 nato originaly using 30 round magazine,but i think you can use 20 round magazines from mod... http://world.guns.ru/machine/brit/bren-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:23:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Work on AFS v3.30 lead to some AR-15 specific attachments being created, so now I'm thinking of fleshing out the AR-15 pistols (6.8mm SPC and pistol calibres - yeah, somewhat ludicrous but the XML infrastructure has be setup). Hairysteed, or anyone else for that matter, if you want to do splicing of existing artwork (or better yet new artwork), this is an area the mod may be expanding in future. for inspiration see: http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&It emid=37 http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=198

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:31:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I don't think new graphics for 6.8mm calibers would be needed. AFAIK 6.8mm SPC is compatible with STANAG 5.56mm magazines so externally they wouldn't look any different from their 5.56mm/.223rem versions. 6.8mm magazines are simply 5.56mm magazines with 6.8mm loaded

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How about a PDW upgrade kit for the MP5K transforming it into MP5K-PDW?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 11:56:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Some small difference helps telling them apart without having to look at the name though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:48:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Plastic waffle magazine vs. metal?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 13:28:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think we're using a different shade of grey to differentiate between 6.8mm SPC and 5.56mm

EDIT: sorry, I didn't see the request for a MP5K-PDW, yeah I've been thinking about adding this.

These are the graphics requirements: - MP5K-PDW with stock extended - MP5K-PDW with stock retracted - PDW stock kit (this would merge with MP5 to produce the MP5K-PDW and itself would turn into the FSS item need to flip between stock folded or unfolded modes)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 17:54:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i think here is image for mp5k-pdw ... http://www.esnips.com/doc/080e871b-d764-49e3-a5d9-567eb9004557/113_9xx_pics

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Cell on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:36:28 GMT

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:48:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If it's okay I'd prefer modifying the existing MP5K graphic by adding the folding stock. It just looks better when otherwise similar firearms share the same look, colors, sizing, etc.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:22:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message if i remeber this... i think mp5k-pdw is coolberg work ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:32:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message HairysteedIf it's okay I'd prefer modifying the existing MP5K graphic by adding the folding stock. It just looks better when otherwise similar firearms share the same look, colors, sizing, etc.

Thank you Hairysteed, my thoughts exactly.

Now while I cannot confirm or deny if Wolf00's screen shots are of a MP5K-PDW by Coolberg, they don't seem to match the same art style as the MP5K in stock v1.13. It may also just be a case of the picture being blurry on my end of things.

EDIT: related to the above, I eventually intend to replace the Mini-68 graphic from DBB with a recoloured (blue tinted) version of the v1.13 Ruger Mini-14 with a 6.8mm SPC magazine attached. Similar to how the Mini-30 was produced (but blue).

Page 10 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:53:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message im not not sure... about this artwork,maybe it is a mistake..not coolber artwork

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:18:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Drew a stock and a flash hider on the 1.13 MP5K

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:55:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thank you Hairysteed, I'll take a look at the graphics later on once I take care of something I've been putting off for a while now - recalculating autofire and burst costs (the amount of copying and pasting of supposedly similar guns has introduced way too many errors).

Are you planning on doing any additional graphics such as the AR-15 pistols discussed earlier?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:24:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm still too much of a beginner to start drawing a completely new firearm from scratch, although it looks like I could use the OA-93 as a base for K23P.

I don't suppose you need the 'tactical' version? You'd get essentially the same thing by adding some tactikool-aids

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:00:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nope, as you said the AR-15 RIS Hand Guard (right now an orphan attachment since the much

Page 11 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit better "Modular Weapon System" hand guard is available) can give OA pistols the "tactical" look. It's already setup for the existing OA-93.

Just to clarify, you're doing the K23P in 9mm right?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:48:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I can do it in 9mm too

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:42:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One thing about using the OA-93 as a base, please keep the optics rail on it. Otherwise I would have suggested using the CMMG 7.3 as a base, just swap out the magazine and RIS hand guard for that lightweight tubular hand guard.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:13:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Oh, in that case I'll do just that CMMG 7.3 has the padded buffer tube anyway

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:54:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There seem to be several AR-pistol manufacturers, and from the looks of things if a calibre doesn't exist in pistol form yet, it can be built up from existing parts and some gunsmithing (after all an AR-15 pistol can be just a cut down barrel/gas system and the absence of the normal stock). These new additions will use a generic naming convention. I did a check for the names and didn't come up with anything relevant so here is the tentative naming convention for the new AR pistols:

PAR-09 - 9x19mm PAR-10 - 10mm Auto PAR-40 - .40 S&W PAR-45 - .45 ACP PAR-68 - 6.8mm SPC

Page 12 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Just to maintain parity, I've already chopped up the stock AKM into a generic AK pistol. For in-game identification purposes, and in apparent contradiction to my earlier sentiments on the MP5K-PDW, I think I can produce the 10mm Auto and .40 S&W (probably by cutting down the OA K10 and K40 already in game). The smaller the gun, the harder it is to find details to differentiate them, so why not a change in art style.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:02:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: here is something for you ... http://uscmc.wikispaces.com/weapons

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:47:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Wolf00, I'm still waiting for proof of you using the new guns added in the last patch. wil473 EDIT (20110829): Ok, you better post screenshots of your mercs actually using it in-game Wolf00, I added the JS 9mm SMG ( Preivew of Next Release ), in the process found that the stats for the Type 05 it is based on are all wrong so it means I was able to squeeze some additional utility out of it. No point in adding another 9x19mm pistol though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 08:55:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m14-pics.htm two weapons from m14 family ...

m14e2 saw

m14k

Page 13 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:29:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No, I'd rather add the BREN you requested last week as a low capacity automatic rifle. The BREN at least looks different, and has a much longer service history than the somewhat rare M14E2. The game doesn't model overheating or other factors that would make the M14E2 SAW any different than the already in-game M14 with a foregrip and rod&spring.

Don't see much need for a chopped down M14 either.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:40:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dutch special melee device

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:20:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I would have offered to add that Gorro, on condition of you and two others providing proof it was actually used, but without more in-game animations it would look kind of silly.

That and I am still waiting for proof from Wolf00 that guns added in the latest patch have actually been used... come on, I know you know how to post screen shots. EDIT: I am be being serious, no AR-18 (.223) till I know my time isn't being wasted on a gun that I have no personal interest in.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:32:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i have order for:jsc smg & also for greenie g36 thingie clone .... yesterday im instaling uc 1.13 3.59 now i have them at calisto,waiting for some armor from B.R shop... this have test in subway...im go someone... hmm well ok

this my actual sector inventory

Page 14 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Thu, 08 Sep 2011 23:19:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One really nice addition would be an integrally supressed AR-SMG

It's amazing how versatile and customizable the AR-platform really is! There are quite a few manufacturers that make integrally silenced uppers. SRT seems to come up a lot. There are even some for 5.56mm I'll have to do some more research on them.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:15:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.sarkardefence.com/products/armour_plates/level3_dyneema/index.htm dynema armor plate

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:28:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The mods already have Steel, Titanium and Ceramic. What would a Dyneema plate bring that simply wearing a Dyneema vest wouldn't?

I could only find chatter online about integrally suppressed AR-15 weapons in 9mm, .45 ACP, and .22LR, since the last one is not in-game only added it in 9mm and .45 ACP. The pair were quickly put together due to having all the needed component images open for the PAR series of pistols. Still, I hope to see proof that someone is using these in-game. Using generic naming convention: ISAR-09 and ISAR-45.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 12:50:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message my point is complete set of armor-dynema armor dynema armor plate... exist nice rare variant from m3 family,m3 ops .... m3 you can find in afganistan war .... will: i have a question maybe it is out of place... i think some low cost shotgun can be nice...

Page 15 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit here is one ... http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/ch/hawk-pump-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:03:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M3 - rare variant? Adding the common M3A1 didn't take much time, even added it to the enemy guns list for the US Prime Vendor sub-mod, players may even see it within their first half dozen battles due to its low status. That's its hook, a very low end gun that doesn't affect balance adversely.

Cheap Shotguns - well this is a weapons & items request thread, so your post is not out of place. However, no interest from my end to add even cheaper shotguns than what is already available in-game now.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 07:09:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

m3a1 ops variant,you can see this gun in movie named iron sharks

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:39:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since the standard M3 from DBB/IoV is in, adding an integrally suppressed one would be trivial. Its rarity means that it will likely appear in BR's Used inventory only, and infrequently.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:51:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 16 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit m4 ar this one have build in silencer well i have i have here something,but you need translator for reading ... http://www.militaria.wz.cz/cs/sa-58/vg70.htm

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:13:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M4 Integrally Suppressed - are you sure about that? It looks like a flash hider to me. I found a small cottage industry in the US producing integrally suppressed AR's in 9mm, .45ACP, and .22LR, but nothing for .223/5.56mm.

By the way, I expect to see evidence of someone getting a proper kill (not assist) in-game with the suppressed M3A1. A screen shot per turn will do.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:06:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?32614-Pictures-of-your-airsoft-rifle/page265 this a web page where is foto for this is m4

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:18:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, your link is leads to a thread specifically for airsoft fantasy guns... For a suppressed AR (in a rifle calibre) I'm going to need something more substantial, a manufacturer's site actually. There seem to be quite a few people trying to build these themselves (in 9mm, .45ACP, .22LR), and while I remember an early proposal for a mod with custom gunsmithing, I'm drawing the line at guns that came off a production line of some sort (the recently added PAR and ISAR guns sit right on that line).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:00:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message well sorry for mistake ...

Page 17 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit so it is posible combine mp5 witch soviet ugl gp 25 or gp 30 ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:06:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Look, since the work would be minimal and there is no rush for a new patch, I'll add the ISAR-15 (5.56mm) and ISAR-68 (guess) but flag them as sci-fi. At this rate I might as well add integrally suppressed AK's, those at least have at least one production line of sorts.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:08:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message for fn scar l i have idea,conv for this gun,convert it from 5.56x45 nato to 5.45x39 ru,it is almost similar to conv for scar h[from 7.62x51 na to 7.62x39 ru]can be rated sci-fi

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:59:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The SCAR conversion system is much simpler than what stock v1.13 has, so any one conversion kit will work with any SCAR variant.

If you or someone else can produce the graphics to the specifications of the mod, I'll add them. - modify current graphics to have 5.45x39mm magazines, five graphics needed: SV, SV FSS, CQC, CQC FSS, and 5.45mm Kit

I'm trying to steer this thread back towards other people providing artwork.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:01:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hello guys!

I kept following the discussions in this forum for quite a while and would like to make my first post in this forum. So I would like to give some suggestions of what logical weapons/items should be included. The plot of Urban Chaos is taking place in a former Warsaw Pact country of Danubia. This means that the majority of weapons and other items should be oriented towards Soviet/Russian/Other Warsaw Pact members. I am a fan of DBB/IoV mod as well and, if I

Page 18 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit understood correctly, the authors of that mod have allowed to use their creations for other mods. As everybody has noticed, you have already transferred lots of Soviet/Russian based items from DBB/IoV mod. So why not borrow these items from DBB/IoV latest version with new attachment system (v.920):

1) Several more famous WW2 Soviet/German weapons (photos and descriptions can be found on http://world.guns.ru), because you have already included some of them (like PPSH-41, Mosin Nagant 1891 model etc.): Soviet AVS-36, SVT-38 or SVT-40, Degtyarev DP DPM RP-46, German MG-42 (you could include the upgrade kit from MG-42 into MG3 as well) etc.;

2) Several more modern Russian weapons: AK-74M, RPK-74M, AEK-999, OTs-11, AKS-74U-UBN with the BS-1 "Tishina" 30mm suppressed grenade launcher (take a look at FIDEL's starting gear from DBB/IoV mod), Dragunov SVDK, RPG-16 "Grom";

3) A few more Polish / Czech / Finnish AK clones: Finnish Valmet Rk. 62 / 76 / 95, Czech LADA CZ-2000, Polish Kbs wz.1996 Beryl, Mini Beryl etc.

4) Please include more Soviet / Russian uniforms and armor (you have already borrowed a lot of such stuff from that mod), for example, MASKA Spetsnaz helmet (take a look at IVAN's starting gear from DBB/Iov mod), Spetsnaz armor and trouses, Sniper camouflage suite, DRAGON Skin armor etc.

5) Please include more scopes and lasers from DBB / Iov mod, for example, NSPU-1 and NSPU-3, RPG scope (should be possible to attach it to AKs as well, http://www.google.lt/search?q=rpg+scope&hl=lt&biw=1240&bih=823&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo =u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=oB13TsD2JuLe4QTRrv2mDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQsAQ), PO 12x scope (for Russian 12,7 mm rifles), PKS-07 scope (a 7x scope, you can find it in AIMNAS, also all the SV-98 rifles should be equipped with this scope, not with PSO-1 by default - http://www.google.lt/search?q=rpg+scope&hl=lt&biw=1240&bih=823&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo =u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=oB13TsD2JuLe4QTRrv2mDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQsAQ#hl=lt&tbm=isc h&sa=1&q=PKS-07&pbx=1&oq=PKS-07&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=198088l200531l0l2 01073l6l6l0l3l3l0l271l757l2-3l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=e09c616b93e31bd3&biw=1240&bih =823),also more Western scope models from DBB/IoV (at this moment all Western rifles use only a generic 6x scope)should be included. One more thing - it should be possible to attach PSO-1 to regular AK type assault rifles, not just to SVD /9x39 mm weapons.

6) Please include the new 60 rounds 5,45 x 39 mm magazines (could be used with the help of an adapter)

This should be enough for the moment:) Hopefully these ideas will attract your attention and we will see the majority of the mentioned items in UC and DL in the near future.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:16:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 3:czech lada 2000 series is an experimental in prototype stage,this weapon never go on

Page 19 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit ambsembly line... better can be cz 805 bren...

1: mauser c96 can be nice,germans using pps-41 rechambered for 9x19,also pp-43 sudajev can be nice

6:there is adaptor for saw flat drum for 5.45x39 rifles[capacity at 90 rounds]

5:more lasers from iov? i dont think so.. so i wish you luck ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:05:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A reminder that I look favourably on requests that conform to the following on page 1 of this thread: wil473Looks like Smeagol beat me to creating one of these.

Please include at a minimum: - link to more information - rational why I should be adding your favourite gun to three different mods (I've included a list of weapons already in-mod to avoid embarrassing incidents of duplication) - description to item (bonus points if it is usable in-game) - graphics (bonus points if they are usable in-game, and you are the artist so I don't need to track anyone down for permission)

Note, that with New Magazine System (NMS) in the works, this thread will be mostly to gather information for future "Advance Capability" versions of the mods that will be created after the current "offical" cycle of v1.13 releases. Specifically NMS, so far, has a few features that not only simplifies adding unique magazine capacities and multiple magazine capacities, but on considering what ChrisL has already stated to be his plans for NMS, features that can be exploited (ie. not ChrisL's intention, but I plan on abusing it for this purpose) to make supporting a common item list between multiple mods much easier...

With regards to DBB/IoV items, you are encouraged to supply where exactly in the hundreds of graphics (ie. Gun111, P1Item111...) that make up the DBB/IoV graphics library your request is located. Yes, I am using IoV 920.

I'll go into specifics for the lists submitted by hermitageman and wolf00 later.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:22:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 20 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Rk62/76 doesn't really differ from the M76 already in the game except with having a milled receiver instead of a stamped one. Rk95 has a flash hider/muzzle brake that accepts NATO-standard rifle grenades as well as reflex sound suppressors.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:18:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now regarding those brand new 60 rounds 5,45x39 mm magazines - take a look at the so called AK-200. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_ujIkYrAfM&feature=related http://www.google.lt/search?q=ak-200&hl=lt&biw=1680&bih=877&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u& source=univ&sa=X&ei=h4Z3TvK_KfHY4QThssWXDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEEQsAQ

Graphics can be borrowed from the latest DBB/IoV as well.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:29:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Guys, I would advise you to follow this link http://flmsdown.net/ebooks/45153-russian-combat-small-arms-in-english.html and to read this book - it is in Russian and English at once. A very useful tool for modders which cotains graphics and all the technical data of the Russian weapons (the majority of them is already included into the mod). I read this book twice and liked it:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Toneone on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:40:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Those 60 round mags are "quad stacked". Heard about them somewhere around this year, and thought it would be nice to have em.

The ones ive found where the AK-74 magazine type Ak-74 mags

More of the same

Tech drawings and AR-15 type mags

Page 21 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Ar-15 mags

Magpuls version

Would be a legit alternative for adapters or beta-c mags.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:21:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Regarding the item codes for the requested weapons from DBB/IoV mod, I have studied the files a little bit. You should use such a program: http://ja2.su/opensours/redactors/dotNetStiEditor1.0.0.25.rar. It is a very useful tool for studying of hundreds of STI files from DBB/IoV BIGITEMS folder:)

I will try to study DBB/IoV files and will provide you with the names needed images (Gun111, P1Item111 etc.)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:29:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Actually, I check the IoV920 XML's directly to look-up the graphic. That said, I would prefer if those making the request do this as part of the request - the more effort you put into the request for a specific item, the more likely I am to add the item.

Special Hi-Capacity Magazines: - already in my plans for New Magazine System (NMS) - don't like adding magazines right now as I find it a pain - like the idea of adding magazines under the current Old Magazine System (OMS), and then having to do it again for NMS a pain (as per last known plans of ChrisL OMS being dropped in favour of magazine definitions that can server NMS and a pseudo-OMS, NMS ammunition definition becomes comparatively easier the more magazines being dealt with for a given calibre)

Valmet Rk. 62 / 76 / 95: - see Hairysteed's comments - Valmet M76 already covers: folding stock, rifle launched grenade, and sound suppressor capable

Page 22 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit AVS-36 - interesting, on first glance sounds like a 7.62x54mmR equivalent of the M14 - need for new 15 round magazine puts this one into the post-NMS catagory

SVT-40 - interesting, on first glance sounds like a 7.62x54mmR equivalent of the M1 Garrand - use of existing 10 round magazines in-game is a plus

Degtyarev DP DPM RP-46 - interesting, a 7.62x54mmR automatic rifle with decent capacity - the decent capacity pan magazine puts it into the post-NMS catagory

MG-42 - 7.92x57mm Mauser Belt puts it into the post-NMS catagory

AK-74M, RPK-74M - no point in adding plastic furniture AK-74 and RPK-74 - keeping in mind that the existing ones already allow scopes, and the AKS-74 has a folding stock, what is the difference? - more black plastic AK's will probably just get lost among the AK-10x weapons

AEK-999 - Modernized PKM with integral sound/flash moderator, good something to set it apart

OTs-11 - low end 9x39mm weapon could find a place

AKS-74U-UBN with the BS-1 "Tishina" - The FN F2000 Weapon System is a one off, in general this mod does not have the same regard for these "fully loaded" weapons

BS-1 "Tishina" - low end grenade launcher for AK's does have its appeal

Dragunov SVDK - second request for this one - see page 1 of this thread

Page 23 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit RPG-16 "Grom" - this was in the mod in past, removed due to the need to produce specific rounds for it

Czech LADA CZ-2000 - see wolf00 comments

Polish Kbs wz.1996 Beryl, Mini Beryl - well it looks different from the other AR's in game

Russian Uniforms - the ones added recently were added specifically because I wanted to reduce the need for some map compatibility copies

Camouflage Suit - there are two already in game (one is a map compatibility copy)

Dragon Skin - see FLX-C 3000 Vest

Russian LAM/Scopes - having enough problems balancing the ones in the mod now

PKS-07 - it was in for a while, specifically for the SV-98, removed as at the time there wasn't enough to differentiate it with the PSO-P

PSO-1 - Isn't there a slight difference between the side rail on the early AK's, the SVD, and the new universal AK/SVD rail? - some AK and related weapons have a "universal rail" that allows use of the PSO-P, I can check if these also allow the PSO-1 as well

Mauser c96 - odd magazine capacities put this one into the post-NMS catagory

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:42:07 GMT

Page 24 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It took some time until I have studied everything with the help of sti files viewer/editor and compariosn with the Bobby Ray's store in Iov (Alt-Tab combination all the time:)). So here is the "short" list of what I would recommend to include, if possible:

OTs-11 Tiss - Look for "gun 799.sti" - It's a 9x39 mm AKS-74U version.

AEK-972 - Look for "gun 749.sti" - It's a 5,56x45 mm AEK-971/973 version.

AK-74M - Look for "gun 695.sti" - It's a modernized AK-74 with plastic furniture and stock, is used by today's Russian higher end units.

AKS-74U-UBN with the BS-1 "Tishina"("Silence" in English) 30mm suppressed grenade launcher - Look for "gun 513.sti". Look also for "gun 528.sti" - it's a separate "Tishina" 30 mm grenadae launcher.

SVT-40 - Look for "gun 493.sti" - It's a 7,62x54 mm Soviet WW2 era semi-automatic rifle.

Kbk wz.96 Mini Beryl - Look for "gun 478.sti" - It's a Polish 5,56x45 mm AKS-74U clone.

Kbs wz.96 Beryl - Look for "gun 477.sti" - It's a Polish 5,56x45 mm AK-74 clone.

CZ 2000 LMG - Look for "gun 476.sti" - It's a Czech RPK clone in 5,56x45 mm (a 75 rounds drum).

CZ 2000 SAR - Look for "gun 474.sti" - It's a Czech AKS-74U clone in 5,56x45 mm.

CZ 2000 AR - Look for "gun 475.sti" - It's a Czech AK-74 clone in 5,56x45 mm.

Dragunov SVD-K - Look for "gun 465.sti" - It's a Dragunov SVD version in the new 9x64 mm caliber.

Makarov PB - Look for "gun 459.sti" - It's a 9x18 mm Makarov PM with built-in silencer - was often used by KGB and Spetsnaz.

Type 81-1 - Look for "gun 310.sti" - It's a Chinese 7,62x39 mm AKM clone.

Type 63 - Look for "gun 309.sti" - It's a Chinese 7,62x39 mm SKS clone, but it uses 20 rounds magazines (Soviet SKS uses 10 rounds magazines).

Type 79 SMG - Look for "gun 305.sti" - It's a Chinese 7,62x25 mm Tokarev SMG which uses 20 rounds magazines.

Type 64 Silenced SMG - Look for "gun 307.sti" - It's a Chinese 7,62x25 mm Tokarev SMG with built-in silencer, which uses 30 rounds magazines.

OTs-48 - Look for "gun 815.sti" - It's a modernized Russian 7,62x54 mm Mosin-Nagant, uses 5 rounds clips, used by Spetsnaz.

Page 25 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit OTs-48K - Look for "gun 816.sti" - It's a bullpup version of OTs-48.

AK-200 - Look for "gun 817.sti" - It's the newest AK version which uses 60 rounds magazines.

AVS-36 - Look for "gun 885.sti" - It's Soviet WW2 era 7,62x54 mm semi automatic rifle, which uses 15 rounds magazines.

6P62 HAR Barsuk - Look for "gun 812.sti" - It's a Russian 12,7x108 mm support rifle,uses 14 rounds clips.

AEK-999 Barsuk - Look for "gun 801.sti" - It's an upgraded PKM, a competitor to PECHENEG, uses 100 rounds 7,62x54 mm belts.

Saiga-410K - Look for "gun 509.sti" - It's a 410 Gauge (76 mm Magnum) Russian shotgun which uses 10 rounds clips.

Hopefully this information will be useful for wil473:) I will be able to provide a list of requested scopes, armors, uniforms tomorrow. Good night!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Anonymous on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:08:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I propose adding the Mossberg brand shotguns. They are ideal in close quarters combat and are used by both military and police forces.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:14:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now some more items from DBB/IoV mod, which could be included and would suit UC scenario:

1) 30 mm grenades BS-1 "Tishina" - Look for "p1item746.sti".

2) Soviet antitank grenades RKG-3/RKG-3M - Look for "p1item752.sti". A very powerful grenade.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RKG-3_anti-tank_grenade)

3) PKS-07 scope - Look for "p1item767.sti". You should use it with SV-98 by default.

4) PO 12x scope for Russian 12,7x108 mm sniper rifles - Look for "p1item769.sti". You could use it by default with KSVK, OTS-96 etc.

5) A stock for APS - Look for "p1item783.sti". I do not know if it is already included or not, should

Page 26 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit give a longer useful range for APS and more accuracy.

6) Russian simple LAM - Look for "p1item809.sti". Could be used as a cheap laser for Russian pistols, a little bit weaker than the normal LAM.

7) Russian Spetsnaz "VITYAZ-S" helmet - Look for "p2item154.sti". Could be used by Elites.

Russian AK bayonet - Look for "p2item366.sti". Another good knife, which can also cut wire fence.

9) Russian Spetsnaz Uniform - Look for "p2item155.sti". Could be used by Elites.

10) Russian Spetsnaz trousers - Look for "p2item156.sti". Could be used by Elites.

11) DRAGONSKIN armor - "Look for "p2item175.sti". Could be used in the end of the game.

12) Soviet/Russian Sniper suit - "Look for "p2item217.sti". Could be used by Elites' snipers.

13) OMON Wood Shirt - Look for "p2item406.sti". Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts.Also if you could modify it to allow the attachment of vests (like in Demise of Man mod), it could provide wood camouflage bonus.

14) OMON Wood Trousers - Look for "p2item407.sti". Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts. Could provide wood camouflage bonus.

15) OMON City Shirt - Look for "p2item408.sti". Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts and police.Also if you could modify it to allow the attachment of vests (like in Demise of Man mod) , it could provide urban camouflage bonus.

16) OMON City Trousers - Look for "p2item409.sti".Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts or police. Could provide urban camouflage bonus.

17) BEKAS Jacket - Look for "p2item305.sti". ould be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts.Also if you could modify it to allow the attachment of vests (like in Demise of Man mod), it could provide wood camouflage bonus.

18) BEKAS Trousers - Look for "p2item306.sti". Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts. Could provide wood camouflage bonus.

19) Soviet Tropical Cap - Look for "p2item302.sti". Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts. Could provide desert camouflage bonus.

20) VDV Trousers - Look for "p2item304.sti".Could be used in the beginning of the game by the redshirts. Could provide desert camouflage bonus.

Should be enough for the moment:) I will continue in the evening.

Page 27 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:14:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now once again regarding the scopes and other items from DBB/IoV mod:

1) PKN-032 NVS - Look for "p1item770.sti" - This Night Vision Scope is an integrated day/night reflex sight for the Russian Assault Rifle.

2) AN/PVS-10 Night Vision Sniperscope - Look for "p1item766.sti" - This Night Vision Sniperscope is an integrated day/night 12.5x sight for the Sniper Rifle, features a day/night selector switch and adjustments for output brightness and reticle illumination. (I am not sure if this one is already included or not,but if not, please include it for Western sniper rifles).

3) 24x Ultimate Scope - Look for "p1item764.sti" - A hi-power megascopic large scope for long range sniper rifle. (Could be used with Western sniper rifles in game).

4) Marksman 4x Battle Scope - Look for "p1item762.sti" - Combat Military Optics LTD developed the MARKSMAN series of compact rifle scopes for the serious sport shooter who demands the ultimate in accuracy, dependability, and durability. (An alternative to ACOG and ELCAN which are already in the mod).

5) 1.1-4x CRT Scope - Look for "p1item757.sti" - This Close Range Tactical scope is a variable power scope that can fill the gap between a reflex and a telescopic sight. (Would be a good tool for various Western / modern Russian SMGs).

6) Leupold Mark-IV CQ/T - Look for "p1item756.sti" - Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T Scope is a revolutionary optical sight for tactical firearms that combines the strengths of a red dot sight and the variable-power rifle scope. The magnification can be adjusted from 1x to 3x.

7) ITL MARS - Look for "p1item759.sti" - ITL Multipurpose Aiming Reflex Sight or MARS features a laser pointer and a red-dot scope. It's the standard accessory of the Israeli TAVOR assault rifle. (I am not sure if you have included this item for IMI Tavor weapons in game).

1PN58 Night Vision Scope - Look for "p1item894.sti" - The 1PN58 (NSPU) Night Vision Scope is an integrated day/night sight for the Russian Rifle. The magnification is higher than 1PN51.

9) PGO-7B 2.7x Scope - Look for "p1item914.sti" - Russian standard scope for RPG-7 Rocket Launcher was occasionally used on Soviet troops' AK rifles in Afganistan.

Should be enough for this moment - managed to do all this will being at work and doing my primary duties. I will continue in the evening when I come back home - hopefully you will include at least half of the mentioned items:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:53:35 GMT

Page 28 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hermitageman:please post here item number: m9 witch kac silencer,s&w hush puppy silent pistol,h&k sl 9 silent sniper rifle[7.62x37mm].h&k mp5 navy -sd & m1 bazooka at weapon ... thx

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:26:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Actually, don't bother with the following as they will not be added:

H&K SL9 - there's a perfectly good image from stock v1.13, also it is a rare prototype so I'm not in a mood to invest effort into a simple graphic upgrade (if that is even the case).

M9 with KAC Silencer - Again, no "All-Up" guns, not enough difference between this and a Beretta 92FS with a sound suppressor attached.

S&W Hush Puppy - same reasons as the M9/Suppressor combo above but with different guns

MP5Navy SD - why? Any discernible difference between this and the MP5SD already in game?

EDIT: when I have time later, I'll clarify which of the many items requested over the last 48hours have a chance of appearing soon (next series of releases after the patching of v1.13), down the road (after New Magazine System or other anticipated new code features), and never. Asking twice isn't going to help a particular case.

Also, some general issues:

- I'm on record pondering the removal of the 9-10x scopes in the mods for balance reasons, anything more than 12x is just going to be a no - There is no specific way of setting random gear selection for use by red shirts, admins or elites. Map Editing is being minimized when possible (ie. no map editing was needed for DL-1.13, and if I can get some time to work on it, none for UC-1.13 v3.60 Old Map campaign) - Vests may appear as LBE - Pants are a no as I want to avoid the exploit of both leg LBE slots being filled with pants - Armoured LBE is not possible at this time, yes I know code branches based on v1.13 have it (IoV/DBB), please start a proper v1.13 feature request if you really want this capability - I consider it nice to have, but not enough to put any more effort into it (I've already asked in the context of better way of handling UC's Commando Armour/LBE system).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 29 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:29:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok... k31 rifle & k31 pistol is good favorites for you ? maybe fg 42 is interesting ... or mc 51k

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:37:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473, thank you for these explanations about the future plans of your mods. In the past I have really enjoyed DBB/Iov and Smeagols AIMNAS mods and have discovered your UC 1.13 mod only in the end of this June, when you have adapted NCTH. After that I do not want to play with OCTH anymore:) This is the main reason why I am trying to convince you to include as many logically suitable for the plot items as possible. I will give you the links of some other suitable items later on this evening.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:00:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

at4 or javelin rocket launcher ?

vg 70 ugl for sa vz 58[please]

h&k smg 2

& now something just for you: le france m16k in .45 acp please add this one... it is basicaly same gun from t2 movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1887/1901

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:08:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 30 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit So a few more items which could be included into UC and DL mods:

1) 1P29 scope - Look for "p1item891.sti" - The Russian 1P29 4x combat scope renders very clear sight picture. The illuminator capsule for the reticle pointer is actually Radium rather than Tritium.

Now for the making the things much easier for you all, please pay a more thorough attention to what is written inside "items.xml" file while describing an item, I mean, pay attention to the line number. As you can see, the number here gives you a clue for which p1 or p2 item or gun sti to look, for example, 891 - here 891 says to you that we should look for "p1 or p2 item891.sti". This is not a rocket science. Hopefully this will make your work much faster and will encourage you to start doing it.

2) 1P70 Giperon Scope - Look for "p1item905.sti" - The 1P70 "Giperon" variable 3-10x42 mm scope which is the latest variable power sniper scope used by Russian special forces.

3) Aimpoint Comp M2 - Look for "p1item192.sti" - This red-dot Close Combat Optic sight allows you to put rounds on target rapidly and accurately.

4) Aimpoint Comp M4 - Look for "p1item918.sti" - A durable red-dot sight with many improvements over its predecessor, will soon replace the COMP M2 in the U.S Army.

5) Aimpoint Micro T1 - Look for "p1item919.sti" - The smallest red-dot sight of Aimpoint company. Compact enough to fit on most pistols and SMGs.

6) AN/PEQ-15 - Look for"p1item917.sti" - Also known as ATPIAL, the AN/PEQ-15 is a compact laser/IR target pointer/IR illuminator aimed to replace the bulky AN/PEQ-2. It has already seen service in the USMCand Special Forces.

7) AN/PEQ-2 ITP - Look for "p1item774.sti" - The Infrared Target Pointer (ITP) is a laser sight for use on rifles which was manufactured by Insight Technology. The two laser are tied into one 6-mode switch and point to 600 meters.

AN/PVS-17 MNS - Look for "p1item880.sti" - AN/PVS-17 2.25x Mini Night Sight is designed to meet the specific requirements of the US NSWC for a light weight, compact, high performance system for the SOPMOD program.

9) AN/PVS-2 NVS - Look for "p1item955.sti" - The AN/PVS-2 is the best Gen 1 weaponsight ever made. The optional Mil-Spec M14, M16 or Elcan weapon mounts make sight a simple task and allow the PVS-2 to be removed and re-attached without losing zero.

10) AN/PVS-24 NVD - Look for "p1item765.sti" - The AN/PVS-24 NVD is a Mini Night Sight (MNS) for NATO small arms, compatible with other weapon sights such as the ACOG and CCO. (I think that you have already borrowed this one and you are using it as a Night Vision Advanced Reflex Sight magnifier).

11) CHN 3x Scope - Look for "p1item908.sti" - A Chinese 3x battle scope for QBZ95 and some other Chinese rifles.

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12) CHN Dual Sight - Look for "p1item907.sti" - A Chinese Laser / Red dot dual-sight for QCW05 and other Chinese SMGs.

13) Chinese Red-Dot - Look for "p1item906.sti" - A Chinese Red dot sight for CF05 and other Chinese SMGs.

14) DBAL-A2 ITP - Look for "p1item807.sti" - The Dual Beam Aiming Laser Advanced 2 is more compact and powerful than the AN/PEQ-2 ITP and won the contract of US Department of Defense as part of MFAL.

15) Commander's Digital Assistant - Look for "p2item83.sti" - The Commander's Digital Assistant utilizes Satellite thermal-image to detect and display position of enemy and friend on its LCD.

16) Elcan Spectre DR - Look for "p1item881.sti" - Elcan's newest 1x/4x optic scope is designed for Canada's standard rifles and machineguns. (I think that at the moment you are using another picture as a 4x Battle Scope for Western Rifles).

17) Elcan Spectre OS34X - Look for "p1item755.sti" - This Canadian day/night optic scope is designed for Western Bloc machineguns, The SpecterOS3.4x comprises fully shock protected optics and mount assembly, incorporating all ballistic corrections.

18) Raytheon X1 Thermal Imager - Look for "p2item81.sti" - A hand-held thermal imager made by Raytheon, provides usable thermal imagery under almost every natural and man-made obscurant, even walls - day or night.

19) Small Scope, 2x - Look for "p1item525.sti" - A small scope for mounting onto shortranged guns like revolvers or shotguns. Optional mounts for a few autoloaders available. Usable as a replacement for damaged assault rifle optics.

20) SPP 10P50 Sight - Look for "p1item903.sti" - The SPP 10P50 3-6x26 daylight sights are intended for use with tripod-mounted heavy machine guns of the NSV type and the Kord.

21) Trijicon ACOG TA55 - Look for "p1item816.sti" - The powerful Trijicon ACOG TA55 5.5x50 Scopes / Sights is specifically designed for a variety of medium and long range shooting applications up to 400 meters.

22) VG-70 Grenade Launcher - Look for "gun611.sti" - A Czech underbarrel mounted grenade launcher for Sa Vz58 assault rifles.

23) VG-70 26.5mm Grenade - Look for "p1item820.sti" - The VG-70 26.5mm Grenade is for Czech VG-70 underbarrel mounted grenade launcher.

24) RGN Offensive Grenade - Look for "p1item795.sti"- This Russian offensive grenade is used when controlled fragmentation is necessary. It is similar to the RGO, but has a thin aluminum casing with no prefragmented content, and a smooth exterior.

25) RGO Defensive Grenade - Look for "p1item841.sti" - This is a modern Russian hand grenade.

Page 32 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit It consists of a steel body with the lower half notched and the inner body prefragmented for a large amount of fragment production.

26) TBG-7V Thermobaric Rocket - Look for "p1item225.sti" - Guaranteed to blow your enemies away. (For use with RPG-7 in game).

27) URG-86 Frag Grenade - Look for "p1item843.sti" - This fragmentation grenade is used by Czech forces. It is both impact and timer detonated; if the grenade strikes a surface at least as hard as packed snow or soft sand after the pin is pulled, the grenade detonates.

28) Headwrap - Look for "p2item403.sti" - Fashion and practical, this military cotton headwrap sucks sweat and protect your head. This is a popular item for jungle warfare SEALs during Vietnam era and a long time headgear of Russian Spetsnaz.

29) K6-3 Helmet - Look for "p1item383.sti" - Widely used by Spetsnaz units in Russian, the K6-3 heavy bullet proof helmet is intended to stop major pistol rounds and fragmentations. Comes with reinforced glass visor, integraded intercom and antenna.

30) KLMK Shirt - Look for "p1item404.sti" - The KLMK or Camouflage Summer Deceptive Coverall is an extremely effective camo oversuit used by Russian forces since 1960s. They are still seen at combat areas today Used by special forces, sappers, snipers, and sometimes regular infantry.

31) KLMK Trousers - Look for "p1item405.sti" - The KLMK or Camouflage Summer Deceptive Coverall is an extremely effective camo oversuit used by Russian forces since 1960s. They are still seen at combat areas today Used by special forces, sappers, snipers, and sometimes regular infantry.

32) MASKA-1Sch Helmet - Look for "p1item382.sti" - MASKA is a well-known bullet-proof helmet made for and used by Russian Special forces including MVD's SOBR and OMON police units. Due to its weight, MASKA helmet is NOT designed for prolonged battle but rather for short periods of combat.

33) RD-54 Backpack - Look for "p2item301.sti" - The RD-54 was developed for the airborne troops of the Soviet Military, the VDV. The RD-54 saw action in the Afghan war in the 1980s and has even seen action recently in the Chechnya conflict.

34) R60 Sniper Jacket - Look for "p2item217.sti" - Russian R60 is a green reed patterned SVD sniper jacket with Infra-Red defeating capabilities.

35) RFVC1 Flak Vest - Look for "p2item216.sti" - Russian Army flak vest covered with pockets for AK magazines and grenades.

36) Rocket Backpack - Look for "p2item433.sti" - Ammo backpack for RPG-7, can hold 6 RPG-shells.

37) Russian Combined Pouch - Look for "p2item300.sti" - These pouches can be attached to all Russian-made officers/soldiers belts as well as to all TARZAN assault vests and sniper's webbing, also compatible with American and British webbing.

Page 33 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 38) Russian M22B Vest - Look for "p2item432.sti" - A black version of Russian special forces RM22SF vest. (Should provide night camouflage).

39) Russian RM23G - Look for "p2item282.sti" - A versatile Russian special forces chest rig, can hold 8 AK magazines or 4 RPK magazines, and 4 frag grenade.

40) Russian VOG-25 Pouch - Look for "p2item260.sti" - This pouch holds 6 VOG-25 grenades for Russian grenadiers.

41) VOG Chest Rig - Look for "p2item431.sti" - Authentic Soviet VOG-25 grenade chest rig (dated 1988) is famous for being used in Afghanistan in 1979-1989.

42) Kord-S Light - Look for "gun694.sti" - This powerful Russian heavy machinegun can be fired from a lightweight bipod due to its reduced recoil.Uses 12,7x108 mm 50 rounds belts. (Only the strongest mercs like GRIZZLY and BULL could walk and shoot it:))

43) Type 81 LMG - Look for "gun312.sti" - The Squad Automatic Weapon of the type-81 family has a longer barrel and slightly higher ROF. The long return spring gave it a smoother action to make it easier to control than its Russian counterpart. (Chinese RPK clone).

44) Bizon-2-07 PP-27 - Look for "gun129.sti" - Variety is the spice of life, try out the SMG in its 7.62 Tk variant. (ALso you can borrow it from the standard 1.13 mod, uses 45 rounds 7,62x25 mm Tokarev magazines).

45) Pallad-M MAG - Look for "p1item875.sti" - A magazine hold 7 rounds of polish 40x47 mm grenades for the Pallad M.

46) Pallad-M - Look for "gun726.sti" - An experimental polish gun from the late 1980s, this beauty is a handheld beast. With the abilty to blow away oppenents and cover alike, you will never want to leave your home without one.

47) SVD Magazine Pouch - Look for "p2item297.sti" - A pouch for carrying four SVD magazines strapped to the upper thigh. (You have included an analogical pouch for AK magazines, so why not doing the same for SVD ones as well?)

So this list of items should cover DBB/Iov items I would like to see in UC mod.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:45:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mossberg 500 / IoV920 gun858.sti = Likely and Soon - it will be 7 round capacity till NMS - see next

Page 34 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Mossberg 500 Bullpup / IoV920 gun590.sti = Likely and Soon - while ugly looking, not many bullpup shotguns in-mod right now

OTs-11 Tiss / IoV920 gun 799.sti = Likely and Soon - fills niche for low end 9x39mm

AEK-972 / IoV920 gun 749.sti = Unlikely - too many 5.56x45mm in general - seems like this weapon only had limited/no production - 5.56x45mm gun with counter-recoil mechanism already present in the three variants of the in-production FX-05 Xiuhcoatl

AK-74M / IoV920 gun 695.sti = No - redundant with existing AKS-74 - visually indistinct from AK-10x weapons already in-game

AKS-74U-UBN / IoV920 gun 513.sti = No - notwithstanding the argument that the in-mod FN F2000 Weapon System is one (and I don't share that view), no

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:42:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.militaria.wz.cz/cs/sa-58/vg70.htm in czech langue .. this be usefull http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12:the-efl-flare-launcher& catid=20:all-other-weapons&Itemid=5

Winchester Model 1887 full size variant can be ok ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:15:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dear wil473,

Thank you for the comments. Now I will try to answer into some of your questions:

1) Type 63 / IoV920 gun 309.sti Comment: Probbaly I have not noticed this item. The original UC graphics will be ok.

Page 35 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 2) Russian Spetsnaz "VITYAZ-S" / IoV920 p2item154.sti Comment: Why not including this helmet? If you watch the news you can notice this helmet on the heads of Russian Spetsnaz (especially VITYAZ and ALFA units) fighters during urban counter terrorism operations, for example, against Chechen terrorists. Can be used by the elites. The same can be said about K6-3 Helmet (Look for "p1item383.sti") and MASKA-1Sch Helmet (Look for "p1item382.sti"). ( (http://spetsnaz.su/inspiration/images/gear/helmet/Vityaz-S/shlem_41.jpg) (http://gearsoc.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=7254&start=0).

3) 1PN58 Night Vision Scope / IoV920 p1item894.sti = maybe - please clarify just what are the magnifications of the 1PN58 and 1PN51 Answer: 1PN58 (or NSPUM/NSPUM-2) - has a magnification of 4x, basically a PSO-1 night vision version, was used widely in Afghanistan (1979-1989) and the First Chechnia war (1994-1996. Can be seen in many Holywood and Russian war movies. (http://www.dragunov.net/1pn58.html) (http://www.google.lt/search?q=1PN58&hl=lt&biw=1241&bih=823&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u &source=univ&sa=X&ei=NYR5Tu3cMK_74QSyoqX2Dw&ved=0CFIQsAQ) (http://www.npzoptics.com/catalog/earlier_issued_production/1pn58_nspum-2/) (http://ra.spetsnaz.su/wiki/1PN58)

1PN51 (or NSPU-3) - a newer version NV sight, magnification is 3x. (http://ra.spetsnaz.su/wiki/1PN51) (http://www.dragunov.net/1pn51.html) (http://www.npzoptics.com/catalog/earlier_issued_production/1pn51_nspu-3/)

4) VG 70 = Maybe - need some information on this one, such as what does it fire? Answer: VG-70 26.5mm Grenade - Look for "p1item820.sti" - The VG-70 26.5mm Grenade is for Czech VG-70 underbarrel mounted grenade launcher. (http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vg70.jpg) (http://www.moddb.com/groups/military-personnel-arms/images/samopal-vz58-with-vg-70-grenad e-launcher)

5) RD-54 Backpack / IoV920 p2item301.sti = Maybe - what pockets should it have?

Comment:

10 4 1 47 30 30 30 30 0

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(http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/detail.php?product_id=323) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDPVpY_ZHo) I will give you the exact answer in the evening when I get back home and turn on DBB/Iov mod. At the moment I am at work - the boss is abroad so everybody is relaxed in the office:)

6) Kord-S Light / IoV920 gun694.sti = No - 12.7mm machine-guns are too powerful for this game

Comment: Why not include such a weapon for the end game? Everybody would love this. Could require the minimum strength of 90 or 95. Imagine BULL, GRIZZLY or MORGAN walking around TERMINATOR style:)

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwu3ivAJ68U&feature=related)

You are saying that 12,7 mm rounds are too powerful but somehow we have quite a few antimaterial 12,7 mm rifles in game:)

7)Raytheon X1 Thermal Imager / IoV920 p2item81.sti = No - redundant

Comment: Why not include such an item when we have several binoculars in the mod? Everybody would love this. Just make it a really expensive item as in DBB/IoV.

RFVC1 Flak Vest / IoV920 p2item216.sti = No - if armoured LBE's become available perhaps, but I'm not doing another two piece armour/LBE deal for flak jacket level protection.

Comment: Why not including this vest - could simply be a Flak level vest with wood camouflage bonus (alternative to the white KAZAK vests in the mod). (http://www.tridentmilitary.com/load-bearing-vests.html)

9) R60 Sniper Jacket - Look for "p2item217.sti" - Russian R60 is a green reed patterned SVD sniper jacket with Infra-Red defeating capabilities. Comment: There are plenty of Elites with sniper rifles so including such a LBE with wood camouflage bonus (a lower end alternative to Ghillie suite) would be useful.

10) AEK-972 / IoV920 gun 749.sti = Unlikely - too many 5.56x45mm in general - seems like this weapon only had limited/no production - 5.56x45mm gun with counter-recoil mechanism already present in the three variants of the

Page 37 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit in-production FX-05 Xiuhcoatl.

Comment: You have included AK-108 which is a 5,56x45 mm AK version, so adding one more variant shouldn't create many problems.

11) Makarov PB / IoV920 gun 459.sti = Maybe - it is on the edge of being regarded as a

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:32:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message can you post here item number for:taurus judge .410 ? sp7 ammo,m24 & m3a1 h.g,bereta 90 two can replace 92f or 92fs in mod[have underbarel rail]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:01:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dear wolf00,

A small reminder from my previous post:

"Now for the making the things much easier for you all, please pay a more thorough attention to what is written inside "items.xml" file while describing an item, I mean, pay attention to the line number. As you can see, the number here gives you a clue for which p1 or p2 item or gun sti to look, for example, 891 - here 891 says to you that we should look for "p1 or p2 item891.sti". This is not a rocket science. Hopefully this will make your work much faster and will encourage you to start doing it."

So Taurus Judge is "gun888.sti". I doubt that sp7 is included in DBB/IoV - maybe you it is named in another way? M24 is "gun19.sti". M24A2 SWS (an upgraded M24, with 10 round detachable box magazine and a sound suppressor) is "gun375.sti". M24A3 SWS (The Model M24A3 Sniper Weapon System chambered in the highly successful .338 Lapua Magnum. Also features a detachable 5-round box magazine, and an OPS 338 LM Muzzle Break and Sound Suppressor.) is "gun376.sti".) M3A1 is "gun479.sti". Beretta 90-two is "gun567.sti".

If you need any other help please let me know:)

Page 38 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:22:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message sorry man:sp7 ammo is from possum mod[it is based on iov mod],m24 hg is this one ... http://www.ecvv.com/selling-lead/1030810.html m34 grenade w.p[white fosfourus],mk3a2 def. grenade[usa],type 77-1 grenade,p-93 pistol sorry for mistake wil: make you choice if you want some fresh http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/pistols/pistols-combat-defender/ http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:57:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well to put it bluntly, a big consideration for whether duplicates or seemingly redundant items end up in-game is that I'm the one who ends up doing the work, so if I have a personal interest in a "copy" it gets added. For this mod it is not simply a mater of copying it from DBB/IOV, the following must be done: - a folded/unfolded stock copy (graphic and item entry) is needed if the weapon features a folding stock - a upper receiver copy (item, generic graphics usually used) is needed if the weapon is an AR-15 - a rifle launched grenade copy of the weapon must be made if it can make use of these - stats must be determined, these three mods use different design principles for generating stats, also original NCTH values do not exist for IoV/DBB items due to the age of the mod - items must be fit into the existing balance, or the balance must be adjusted for the new weapon(s) - Note I just finished redoing the coolness values for BR availability of gun and ammo as well as, AI assignments (this time with an overarching scheme)

Try opening up the mod in the XML Editor, you'll see just what I mean with the above.

Now for some specific rebuttals:

Scopes - I tend to have only one Scope per mounting system per magnification (or range of magnification), as I said I dropped the PKS-07 because it didn't seem worth it. EDIT: the P.O.

Page 39 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 3.5x21P covers the "4x" scope role for Russian Arms, for a while it even had the same stats (under OCTH where I could get away with that).

Scope Nomenclature - for some reason Russian scopes tend to get named, probably a carry over from the original project being an emulation of original UC where this was the case as well. Starwalker also tended to give generic names to non-Russian scopes in v1.13, so this is a case of just how things are done by some of of us.

Variable Power Scopes - guess I'll be blunt again, only one will be added per RIS mount and RSA/SVD mount. As the 1P70 Giperon seems to be the only Russian variable power sight from DBB, it gets a pass (unless someone produces graphics for another variable power Russian scope that I find aesthetically better). Right now I am partial towards the Elcan for future inclusion, but this is all contingent on a code feature that has only been talked about occasionally (mostly by me it seems on the XML modder side of things).

SUSAT - at the time it was added, its mount was considered a unique mount (still is); also it was an inseparable attachment originally. The SA80 program weapons demanded in my mind this attention due to their inclusion in original UC - where they were giving "scope" characteristics somehow (hex editing?). It became a buyable item when I noticed that some FN FNC's were using it. Other examples of semi-unique scopes/sights are the: H&K/NATO clamp mounts, the old German 4x scope, and the one used by the Moisin. Some of the older weapons will be added in part due to them being able to use some of the lesser used scopes already in the mod (ie. FG42 and SVT-40).

AK's - most of them are actually from stock v1.13. I only added the Zastava's because they caught my eye when I was trying to figure out if the AKMSU actually existed.

That said, I'll make a concession with the one or two of those helmets with integral masks.

EDIT: by the way, DBB/IoV uses a different pocket scheme as v1.13. My three mods have not only different pockets, but also different sizes. I just need to know for the backpack roughly what can fit it, and is it a Backpack or combat pack (or a chest rig for that matter).

EDIT2: about the .50 BMG/12.7mm rounds, even with the Anti-Material Rifles they're kind of a poor fit for JA2. I suppose for JA2:Unfinished Business, they wanted a weapon to make the player drool over, but they restricted it to only one or two from Raoul's shop.

Thermal Imaging Camera - the mods this sub-forum covers already has one, and it does see through walls, though you have to be very close. I don't remember seeing much in the way of comments about it, positive or negative, so one is enough.

EDIT3: the M24A3 SWS is already in, sort of, as the Remington 700. Its the civilian version due to me wanting a 6.8mm SPC bolt gun for the in-country BR's.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 40 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:46:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dear wil473,

I am just a beginner in JA2 modding, but if I can help somehow to speed the things up - just let me know. I am patient enough in editing text files and bug testing:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:44:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One more suggestion - please include lockbuster ammo for shotguns. You can borrow graphics either from DBB/IoV or from Smeagols AIMNAS. I miss this item in UC.

DBB/IoV link:

12Ga Shells 12 Lock-Buster - p2item62.sti - 12 shells of lock buster will help you bust any lock with alacrity.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:50:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sorry, my mistake - lockbuster ammo is already in the mod. I am studying the possibilities of the XML editor and will probably try to include some of items myself. It doesn't look so difficult, just it is time consuming in the beginning. The only problem, as wil473 said, might be balancing of the new weapon/item in the game.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:57:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message posum mod have interesting items inside:20mm ilumination grenade for oicw,25 ilumination grenade for x25, same for 43mm gm94 ru launcher.Ammo for udar:lockbuster 12.3x35 & polyshock 12.3x35 ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:41:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message XML Editor is very nice tool - played with it for a while and already have an understanding of how

Page 41 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit it works and what means what. However I do not know how to make it read the files not of the default 113 mod but of another one, for example, UC. Any manual editions in "XmlEditorInit.xml" like changing the target directory or overwriting the files from UC folder into Data or vice versa do not give any positive results- the editor crashes while loading the files. Any ideas? Or are you working manually with the help of Wordpad or Excel?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:00:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thanks for reminding me I need to update the UC-1.13 FAQ and Spoilers: Help with Modding the Mod, including the XML Editor

Now the problem is you're not going to be able to simply add those items discussed earlier to the mod via the XML Editor directly (not unless you are content to have no graphics for them). Copying and renaming the BigItems is the easy part, but you also have to worry about the the Interface and Tileset\0 libraries. To copy items from one mod to another, I generally use the program STIVIEW to first extract the graphic as a BMP. STIVEW only has a few buttons to worry about, backwards and forwards among individual STi files, and backwards and forwards among the pages inside each STi file. Sorry, don't know where I downloaded it from, I started messing with this stuff years ago.

The thing is, I find clicking through hundreds of pages within the Interface and Tileset STi's a pain (you can't simply punch in a page with this particular program, and I prefer the results of this program for extracting BMP's). This is why I culled the graphics I wanted into a spreadsheet so I can export them in a single one directional pass. If you want to help out with adding the items, please try extracting the following from their respective Interface and Tilesets\0 STI's:

Type 64 Silenced SMG gun307 Makarov PB gun459 SVT-40 gun493 FG 42 gun500 "Tishina" (BS-1) 30 mm grenade launcher gun528 Mossberg 500 Bullpup gun590 VG-70 Grenade Launcher gun611 Pallad-M gun726 OTs-11 Tiss gun799 AEK-999 Barsuk gun801 OTs-48 gun815 OTs-48K gun816 Mossberg 500 gun858

BS-1 30 mm grenade p1item746 RKG-3M p1item752 Elcan Spectre OS34X p1item755 AN/PVS-10 p1item766 PKN-032 NVS p1item770

Page 42 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Trijicon ACOG TA55 p1item816 VG-70 26.5mm Grenade p1item820 Pallad-M MAG p1item875 Chinese Red-Dot p1item906 CHN Dual Sight p1item907 CHN 3x Scope p1item908 Aimpoint Micro T1 p1item919

Commander's Digital Assistant p2item83 Russian Spetsnaz "VITYAZ-S" p2item154 Russian Spetsnaz Uniform p2item155 Russian VOG-25 Pouch p2item260 Russian RM23G p2item282 SVD Magazine Pouch p2item297 Russian Combined Pouch p2item300 Russian AK bayonet p2item366 VOG Chest Rig p2item431 Russian M22B Vest p2item432 Rocket Backpack p2item433

Hints: - you will be opening up a total of six files using STIVIEW - STIVIEW offsets the page number by one (since it does not start at 0 like STIEDIT, or the actual STI files do) - please name the files in such a way that indicates if it is a Gun, P1Item, or P2Item, and if it is an Interface or a Tileset example: the two extracted BMP files for the Type 64 Silenced SMG (gun307) could be named gun307IN.BMP and gun307TS.BMP

I'm not going to ask you to edit the interface and tilesets STI's with STIEDIT, this program has a tendency to mess up the colour palette (ie. ruin all graphics in it) if you are not careful. It actually still does that to me, but I use backup strategies to minimize the work that I have to repeat. Instead, if you choose to help with this soul destroying, but necessary, work, please send the resultant files (zipped) to the projects gmail account - uc.ja2113.projects

Look on the bright side, what looks like a short list to you is actually one of the bigger batches of items I've imported from DBB/IoV at any one time. Oh and please do not make additions to the list, the reasons for the inclusion/non-inclusion for a particular items stands.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:50:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 43 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I was wondering about one thing: The "reflex scope" I guess is supposed to represent the kind of scope that takes advantage of "Bindon Aiming Concept" where with the help of an illuminated reticle and having both eyes open for faster target acquisition.

The Elcan battle scope as well as SUSAT might also benefit from BAC since their reticle is also illuminated (by tritium). I'm not sure however if tritium-illuminated reticles are bright enough for BAC to work in daylight and you'd have to either the reticle illuminated by fiber optic light gathering or a battery.

Oh, and IRL ACOG has no electronics and neither do trigger groups.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:31:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Presently the "Elcan" is just a 4x Battle Scope, the "Elcan" in the list of graphics to be imported is just a graphic upgrade. The minor bonuses present in the ACOG are just there to imply it is a higher technology scope.

As far as the SUSAT having anything special, I've always thought of it as the earliest of the Modern 4x battle scopes in the mods. Based on a hazy concept of which is better it would be SUSAT < 4x Battle Scope < 4x ACOG.

Soon there's going to be a 5.5x ACOG, though I'm not sure if I want to treat it as a sniper scope (where its rational is that it fits RIS without adapters) or as an extra powerful Battle Scope. Due to how I've separated the scope mounts, quite a few of the modern sniper rifles have ended up with a 4x Battle Scope as their default attachment scope which doesn't seem right - for this reason I'm leaning towards balancing the ACOG's benefits and penalties closer to those found on the 6x sniper scope, though perhaps ease up on the NCTH Aiming Levels (penalty), it is an ACOG after all. No reflex pedestal on it though, they seem to be marketing ACOG/RMR Cobo's in 3-4x and 6x, but not 5.5x, nor does there appear to be one in the graphic from IoV.

I'll clear the electronics tag on the ACOG and Trigger Group.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hairysteed on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 07:43:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I haven't seen pictures of a TA55 with an RMR mount either, but the mount itself is advertised for TA01, TA31, TA11 as well as TA55. After all their eyepieces are identical. I would however consider reflex sights on top of scopes an exploit unless there was a way to prevent getting the benefits from both sights at the same time.

Besides, ACOG acts like an opaque collimator sight in close range anyway due to BAC - the illuminated reticle seen by the right eye is superimposed on the image seen by the left eye

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:21:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok have some idea 9x19mm bat ammo from aim mod,it is in base hp ammo but have better armor penetration, but range to shot is cut down ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by smeagol on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:37:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473 Russian AK bayonet / IoV920 p2item366.sti = Likely and Soon - makes sense there is a "named" Warsaw Pact era knife

Dunno how the one from dbb looks, I just made one... maybe you like to use that pic...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 08:53:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message here you have real one

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:42:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dear wil473,

Once again I would suggest using this program to speed up *.sti files viewing and editing: dotNetStiEditor - http://ja2.su/files_viev.php?type=red Requires NET 2.0 to be installed. In the "open" screen select all the files inside "BIGITEMS" folder and you will see them all in the

Page 45 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit program. It's much faster than STIVIEW (can be downloaded from the same site) you are using.

Hopefully this helps:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:13:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Regarding the list of items which are being included from DBB/IoV mod - I would still insist in adding 1PN58 Night Vision Scope - Look for "p1item894.sti" - could be a night vision PSO-1 version, cheaper, more bulky and with less clear view than 1PN51 in game.

Also 1P29 scope - Look for "p1item891.sti" is a Russian copy of British SUSAT.Make it possible to use only with AK rifles and machineguns and not with SVDs, VALs etc. In such a way it would find a niche inside the mod.

Everyting elese is great:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:48:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The 1P29 scope is a copy of the older British Sight Unit, Infantry, Trilux (SUIT) not SUSAT. All of them are in the 3.5-4x category which is already filled by the P.O. 3.5x21P for the RSA side mount. Indeed if I remove the distinction between RSA and SVD mounts there will be two 4x scopes already in-game for this mount.

Same goes for the 1PN58, the 3.5x NV is covered for the RSA/SVD mount. If anything, I think I'm going try redoing the image of the 1PN51. Got a very good result re-sizing the graphics for something else I'm adding, I think I can produce a more crisp graphic than the one in use now. This is were I'm investing my time.

Additionally, I don't think most players bother with NV Scopes. While the NVG sight bonus stacks with any present on the scope, I'm not sure if people put up with the logistical burden of carrying both NV and Daylight scopes. This may change with the next patch (where most NVG lower the NCTH aiming cap by a significant amount). That or people will get pissed off I'm trying to encourage use of the NV scopes, we'll see in a few more weeks.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by knightofni on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:16:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, some people do use NV scopes. As soon as possible, i have one weapon for day combat, and one for night combat. NV scopes are amazing in night fights. Actually i think they're too

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:29:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, my comment would be that 1PN58 has magnification of 4x and the newer 1PN51 has magnification of only 3x. Also 1PN58 could be seen in many Holywood movies (I will provide the list later on) is it is better known than 1PN51.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:51:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Fine, I'll add the graphics for the 1PN58, but as a replacement for the somewhat shabby looking 1PN51. I'm sticking with one NV for RSA in 3-4x rule.

EDIT: yeah, I've got to look up the low light penalty so as to be able to rebalance the NV bonuses.

EDIT2: looking through the list and ran into a possible contradiction to earlier statements, remind me again why am I adding the PKN-032 NV? I cannot seem to find a description of it anywhere (ie. Magnification level, NV Gen equivalent), and I seem to be treating it as a NV Sniper Scope (in the 6+ Mag Factor range)...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:36:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Lots of good info about the Russian scopes can be found here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/136964_.html&page=1 http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/standard.html http://ra.spetsnaz.su/wiki/1PN51 http://ra.spetsnaz.su/wiki/1P29

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:57:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 47 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Regarding PKN-032 NV, I also have difficulties finding information about it.

Now please do not remove 1PN51 which is 3x scope. Western rifles already have 2 night vision scopes from this category - Thales 4x NV scope and Night vison ARS magnifier (4x). So the additional 1PN58 would somewhat equalize both sides. 1PN51 can serve as a lower power NV sight - it's acceptable to me if in game terms it will be counted as a 2x NV scope.

Regarding 3x-4x daylight scopes, Western guns have SUSAT, ELCAN and ACOG in 4x (I do not count G36 3,5x and FN2000 4x scopes:)). Russian counterparts are only 3,5x PO3.5x21P and 4x PSO-1. So addition of 1P29 would equalize both sides. Check http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_64/136964_.html&page=1 for better understanding.

In 6x-7x category Western weapons have a generic 6x scope, 7x FLIR (Thermal imaging) scope, ARS 6x magnifier, ADD Daeqoo K11 (OICW with 6x scope), also TA55 ACOG 5,5x which you are going to include. The only Russian counterpart is 6x POSP. So if you would return 7x PKS-07 (it's ok if it will be used only by sniper rifles) this would make the things more equal.

In 9x-12x category Western weapons have a generic 10x sniper daytime scope, and AN/PVS-10 12,5x NV scope (which you are going to include). The only Russian counterpart is 1P21 "Minuta". So addition of 1P70 "Giperon" which is 3-10x daytime scope would make the things equal. It's ok if it is only a fixed magnification 10 x daytime scope - somehow we cannot change the magnification from 3x up to 9x in the current 1P21 "Minuta" and everybody is satisfied:)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:09:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, in DBB/IoV mod PKN-032 NV has such stats:

15 50 40 20

So it looks like a somewhat 2x NV scope too me.

1PN51 has such stats:

10 35 -4 70 20 60 20 35

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15 65 -5 100 50 90 50 70

1P70 "Giperon" has such stats: 20 75 -12 3 35 85 15 85 90

Hopefully this will help while balancing these items in the mod.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:21:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DBB stats of 1P29:

10 35 10 10 25 25 40

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:29:09 GMT

Page 49 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A few more suggestionswhich can be very easily implemented:

1) change UC grpahics of 7,62x39 mm magazines with those from DBB-Iov: "p1item29.sti" for AP, "p1item30.sti" for HP, "p1item266.sti" for Tracer, "p1item453.sti" for Match. All the russian 7,62x39 mm AK weapons use black metal colour magazines, not brown ones (only 5,45x39 mm brown magazines were produced until 1990's - after that Russians have switched to black colour).

2) "p1item771.sti" - a more beautiful version of 1PN51 night vision sight.

3) Some probably very useful graphics can be found in Renegade Republic 113 mod. For example, p2item94 Russian gasmask.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:29:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @hermitgeman - I know you mean well, but please start using the EDIT button when you need to relate new information within the space of a few minutes.

I also have to fault you on the accounting - of course there are going to be more "western" scopes and sights, there are more scope mounting systems from the west portrayed. Also via the use of adaptors, any of the "RIS" scopes and LAM's can be attached to any "RSA/SVD" mount weapon. In my estimation, the Russian weapons have the advantage as far as selection for attachments.

As far as Russian NV sights, the information you've provided (and I've already looked on a few of those websites) indicate that they only are available 1-4x. With this in mind:

PKN-032 NV will be a 2x, with Battle Scope penalties 1PN58 will cover the higher end 3.5x with Sniper Scope penalties anything more will be a US NV device on the RSA/SVD to RIS Adaptor

EDIT: I won't be removing any graphics with, so you may easily resurrect the 1PN51 if you wish for your own sub-mod.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 06:55:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @wil473, thank you for these comments:)

A few more ideas, which might be interesting and could be implemented sometime in the future:

Page 50 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 1) RENEGADE REPUBLIC 113 mod has a rifle sling attachment which gives a small stability bonus while shooting in the standing position (I will be able to provide the item number in the evening - I am at work at the moment).

2) Tripod attachment for machine guns like PKM or M60 - would give a huge accuracy bonus while shooting from the crouch position, but would increase the weight of item a lot.

3) The use of batteries for NV and Thermal imaging devices - NIGHT OPS mod uses this feature. Would make the things more realistic.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 17:02:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message We talked about the possibility of not being able to use the rifle slot, unless having a sling attached.

It would grey out the rifle sling slot (just like when a back pack is not equipped).

I am requesting this feature for all mods.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:07:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As promised:

2-Point Rifle Sling - This 2-Point Rifle Sling comes in handy to help stabilize the gun while firing. Due to its lengtht, it fits on carbines nicely- p3item25.sti.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:47:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message taoWe talked about the possibility of not being able to use the rifle slot, unless having a sling attached.

It would grey out the rifle sling slot (just like when a back pack is not equipped).

I am requesting this feature for all mods.

Page 51 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit That level of micro-management would require one of the following:

1) specific coding for a sling attachment, "this-is-a-sling" tag, and NIV to recognize the sling tag being set 2) sacrificing size 9 for sling use: The sling attachment bumps item up by 9, but since size 9 is the cap for the expanding size range, any item that has a sling attached to it will always be size 9. Size 9 is the only size the weapon sling will accept. JMich's variable size system code would give some more freedom to this one as it not only allows definition of how many sizes are available in a mod, but also where the expandable range ends.

Also, the good will of players for this scheme would be required, by necessitating a sling attachment before the sling is used, I'm expecting the modder to face more player anger than gratitude. ie. I recieved more flak than anything else when I cut down the backpack's ability to carry large weapons (down to one size 7-9 gun except for two very specific cases).

So while it can be done right now, at present no interest in requiring a sling before a weapon could use the sling pocket.

EDIT: forgot to mention, in all three of my mods, Size 9 is already being used for weapons that cannot use the sling slot, both inherently and when pushed to size 9 by an attachment. Option 2) is the inverse of what I'm already doing.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:40:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message In my opinion, it would work like back pack slot. The gun slot would be greyed out and unusable until a sling is placed in the sling slot.

And I also think the knife slot needs to go bye bye. It can be replaced with L.B.E.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by knightofni on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:36:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message While i agree that the rifle slot is not realistic, i don't think that the game should become a micro management hell, requiring to find and attach a sling before using it. It's already complicated enough to remember which size of gun can fit in which backpack.

Regarding the knife slot : I always assumed it was a scabbard of sort... what is wrong with that ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 52 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:58:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A sling serves so little purpose otherwise that we can just assume every long arm comes with one.

And how many players would seriously consider exchanging, say, a 6x Magazine pouch with a sheath just to carry a knife? Without the free slot, they would get used even less.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:44:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Micro managment hell for having to carry a gun in the main hand or in a backpack until finding a sling....yeah...that is desolate.

Regarding the knife slot:

It would work like the sling as well.

Both of these reasons give us motivation to seek out this gear or feel excited about getting it.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:24:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message taoIn my opinion, it would work like back pack slot. The gun slot would be greyed out and unusable until a sling is placed in the sling slot.

And I also think the knife slot needs to go bye bye. It can be replaced with L.B.E.

That's a code based option, beyond the scope of this thread. Please start a feature request if this is truly a code change that you want for NIV.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Anonymous on Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:35:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Okay...

:walking:

Page 53 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:01:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Almost done adding the items I said I would add last week. Items between the three mods are being kept more or less synchronized, though I think I'm going to note the next version of AFS as being save game in-compatible due to a few minor organizational changes with the item numbers. (Perhaps even skip a few revision numbers to sync the version numbers as well).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hermitageman on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 08:01:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One more AK clone could be implemented and would be quite interesting in the game. AIMNAS includes Yugoslavian Zastava M77B1. It is a clone of RPK in 7,62x51 mm NATO and it uses 50 rounds drums. We already have some Zastava weapons and 50 rounds 7,62 mm drums already included in UC, so adding this weapon should not be a big problem. It would make 7,62x51 mm ammunition more usable in the mod.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:40:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sure, an AK in 7.62x51mm would be somewhat unique. Technically the Zastava M76 was the only one, till I decided to rechamber it for 7.92x57mm (on finding more web info supporting that it was never in 7.62x51mm). Not knowing anything to dispute this, the NCTH recoil on this one is going to be rather bad due to the power of the cartridge.

These will probably be the last items added to the initial v3.60 release. Right now in the process of trying to balance everything. So far with the reduced NCTH Accuracy headshots with assault rifles are very rare in testing (even with scopes). The Iron Sights seem a bit too good, so what is in the preview of v3.60 right now this moment is probably going to change.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Saibot on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:41:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Honestly adding a new LBE just for knives seems a bit much, considering all those knives are sold with scabbards IRL anyway, and the utility knife can just go in your change pocket.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:39:21 GMT

Page 54 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just so nobody gets concerned, v3.60 will not be replacing the default NIV knife slot. Any additional NIV knife pockets being added are part of larger LBE's and not scabbards. If anything is to happen to the default NIV knife slot it will be replacing it with a "hook" type pocket for external stowage of face items or small LBE's (leg rigs and M-LBE items).

Slightly wrong about the Zastava M77 pair being the last items for v3.60. Took care of two longstanding deficiencies while I was adding stuff:

1)IMI Galil's now have a triple rail scope mount (still uses the AK Handguard for the front end)

2) HK69A1 - the last item from original Deidranna Lives! not added to the base mod, kept forgetting to import the IoV 920 graphic. To set it apart from the M79, made some adjustments to the pockets/sizes scheme so that it fits the MP and SBR Rig pockets.

For details of what the three v3.60 mods will have see the preview here: http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=290775#Post290 775

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:57:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hi:aimnas have nice feature,making camo kits from kuban cigar & cantene ... there are two,for wood camo & dezert camo,this can be nice ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by K0ukku on Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:34:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As in the AIMNAS thread, I'd be happy to see the AMT Hardbeller 7" version in this amazing mod aswell.

Straight copy drom the AIMNAS item req. thread:

Quote: AMT Hardballer Longslide. 7" barrel, .45 ACP and 7 rounds per mag.

Would be a nice addition to the "longer range" pistols in the .45 caliber. Familiar from the Hitman - game series and of course from the movie Terminator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMT_Hardballer

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by K0ukku on Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:46:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message On top of this, I remember playing Rogue Spear when I was a kid long time ago and there was some kind of AR-15 variant in the .300 Whisper wildcat caliber. Basically it is a scaled down 5,56x45 cartridge with various capabilities. Straight quote from wiki: Quote:It was developed as a multi-purpose cartridge, capable of utilizing relatively lightweight bullets at supersonic velocities as well as heavier bullets (200

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 04:27:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The AMT Hardballer 7" shouldn't be too much of a problem, it is essentially a Colt 1911 with longer range.

EDIT: looked at IoV's AMT Hardballer, and I don't care much for the prop laser sight on it. Can anyone produce a clean AMT Hardballer 7" please?

The multi-purpose cartridge, while intriguing, will have to wait for New Magazine System.

EDIT2: I've modified Tbird's ParaOrdinance 14-45 into the AMT Hardballer Longslide, longer slide, wrap around grip, trigger, and other detailing. I'm going to see if I can filter it in Gimp to be more gunmetal or at least darker in colour.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 06 Dec 2011 11:05:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:

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czechoslovakia flare gun vz 44/67

Metal 26.5 mm shell casings Green is a single star Flare Blue is a smoke cartridge Red Rain is a multiple star Flare White is a single star Flare. cz rv 85 rifle flare launcher http://www.hkpro.com/forum/non-hk-firearms-sale/148302-wts-czech-military-cz-rv85-26-5mm-gre nade-flare-launchers.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:44:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I was thinking of the H&K flare pistol (which is made by CZ under licence). That and the CZ BRNO RV85 Flare Launcher have been on my mind for a while. Problem is right now I've got a glut of tactical stock equipped weapon mods that need to be done up and added to preserve a mod feature while avoiding a crash. (Don't fold the stock of weapons using a Fixed Stock Kit under HAM5.)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:49:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Multiple Star Flare - I wonder if the fragmentation feature in HAM 5 will let me do that. Flare mortar that blankets a map in flares... probably end up crashing the game, but something to try.

Since NMS is on hiatus for now, recommencing the addition of stuff with the addition of an easy

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ASh-12.7 - I call it easy because 12.7x55mm is a brand new calibre, so I can easily add its magazines to the end of the list - also, it is a freehand/pixel-by-pixel redraw of the A-91M imported from IoV a year ago, magazines are also based on a magazine I found in IoV as well - 12.7x55mm in: Soft Lead (ball), AP, Duplex, and Heavy (combination of Heavy AP "semi-AET" ammotype used for 5.56mm Heavy and a -40% volume reduction used for subsonic rounds) - why? It caught my eye, and it is meant for "urban" use

Now comes the hard part, I need some research done on this weapon: - magazine capacity? - weight? - Rate-of-Fire? (yes, a 12.7mm/.50 weapon with full automatic)

For now it is a mix of the stats from the A-91M and .50 Beowulf rifle, and it is only in a build of AFS v3.60-HAM 5 Optimized.

Next I'll probably add that odd AR-15 round, weapon, and associated upper. If I remember correctly, it is another one that has dual super/sub-sonic ammo (but not cold loaded). Oddly it was not requested in this thread, but if the author of that request can repost details here I would be most obliged. Remember the more work you do, the better the chances of your request making its way into the three mods.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:09:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message any chance update images in uc? iov 925 now have nice images for 40mm nato grenades ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:59:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'll take a look. Please post here a list of graphic file to grenade associations so importation may be expedited. Thank you.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:42:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 40mm-high epxplosive,illuminant,mustard gas,napalm,smoke,tear gas,thermobaric[for me loking

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:06:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Right, so what is the p X item Y for NATO HE and so on?

EDIT: sorry K0ukku, I missed your post from November 2011, right so it is the .300 Whisper in two ammotypes. I remembered it was .300 something. I also found the .300 Blackout, which seems to be a mass produced cartridge with similar intentions instead of a wildcat. I'm actually thinking of adding that one instead - it has manufacturer claims over its performance related to some common in-game weapons and ammo. ie. I've got something to base stats on.

EDIT2: Yup, I'm thinking of adding the .300 Blackout in supersonic (long range) and subsonic (Heavy Bullet) loadings, along with: - AAC MPW "Honey Badger" - an AR-15 pistol & SBR pair - Carbine & Upper - Rifle & Upper

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:56:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wilf473:please can you eplain more ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:36:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If you want the 40mm NATO grenade graphics replaced, please look up in your install of IoV the file names for the associated big graphics. ie. P1Item234.STI

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:28:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 40mm he[id 147] p1item147.sti,40mm tg[id 148] p1item148.sti,40mm stun[id 149] p1item149.sti,40mm smoke[id 150] p1item150.sti,40mm mustard[id 966] p1item966.sti, 40mm

Page 59 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit tb[id 970] p1item970.sti , ... id numbers are from xml editor ... i cant find sti for[40mm napalm+iluminant]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:44:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm going to have to call you out on this one... all you did was simply tack the item number on the end of "p1item." For instance p1item147.sti is a FN Five-seveN magazine and not the 40mm HE grenade. As this change is only cosmetic and has no impact on game play, I will not be devoting much time to this - please do the actual work of finding the correct filenames in IoV 925 if you want those graphics implemented. Thank you.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:57:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message p1item111.sti-tg,p1item112.sti smoke,p1item113.sti stun grenade,p1item313.sti iluminant, p1item314.sti thermobaric grenade, p1item315.sti napalm grenade

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:18:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message in your mod you have sa vz 58P,please it a posible add folding stock kit for sa vz 58 ?

this is sa vz 58V

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:56:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The SA vz 58 is already a folding stock weapon, and has been for a very long time.

This brings up an important point, you still haven't given me proof that you've been using stuff added in the last round.

Oh, I've added the 40mm graphics from IoV. While they are more realistic, the art style clashes with the other grenades. The graphics are being left in so you can modify the XML yourself if you

Page 60 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit want to use them. Also when I get around to adding the "Hellhound" round the graphics are in place.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:35:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok i have now instaled uc 3.60rc5 [ham5]using some brens & zastava lmg[m3 ops is a very rare in game] & im curently playing afs 3.60rc2[mostly im in my work,im in my home im a very limited time]so if im waste your time with my stupid request's,im going to the hell.. im spent my time for searching about these 40mm images..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by lockie on Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:45:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:[mostly im in my work,im in my home im a very limited time]

Err ,shouldn't that be the other way round , crack on at work son !

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:04:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well the grenades are not a complete loss, eventually I will be adding longer (won't fit in M203) 40mm Low Velocity grenades.

As far as you SA vz.58 request, the way you asked for it, Wolf00, gave the impression that you didn't actually research what was already in the mod. The SA vz.58 has had a folding stock of some kind for since near the beginning of the whole folding stock business a few years ago.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:25:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message maybe this is interesting weapon ... http://mikediazaz.tripod.com/id37.html sniper[dmr] in 6.8 spc

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 61 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:10:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AFS v3.61 released yesterday added the Wilson Combat Recon 6.8 SPC 18" to cover the 6.8mm SPC DMR/Hunting AR variant. I'm still waiting for some kind of feedback on the NCTH changes before I will retrofit UC-1.13 v3.6x with these change though.

By the way, I've updated the item list on page one of this thread.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:29:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.natchezss.com/Ammo.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RT27676&prodTitle=Re mington%206.8%20SPC%20115%20gr%20Premier%20Match%20BTHP%2020%2Fbox match class ammo in 6.8 spc

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:18:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Match grade 6.8mm SPC is in yesterday's dual AFS v3.61 release. There is one problem, integrating the changes to ammo/magazines that existed pre-v3.61, such as the 6.8mm SPC, may have to be delayed due to save game and map pre-placement considerations.

Also there is a pressing need to re-order a bunch of stuff for the "Encyclopedia" feature found right now in "Unstable" builds. Unless the encyclopedia now sorts alphabetically, like Bobby Rays, in the most recent code base.

Basically with ChrisL's "Map Item Substitution" feature (part of the now stalled NMS project), ammo/magazine changes are going to be a pain. The changes to 6.8mm SPC and 7.92x57mm were designed preserve the ordering for other ammo, but it hasn't been tested yet.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:17:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

You know, the Stoner 63 is pretty modular. Can be used as everything from a carbine to a LMG. Mix and match! Slap a 150-round drum on it and you can finally get some use out of all of that .223 ammo you've left behind. Really, look it up. Plenty of info around. Such a big kit, so many

Page 62 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit possibilities. (I imagine it isn't already in the game. Forgive me if I'm mistaken.)

Oh, and I found some VEPR variations. Minor stuff, but still fun.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:59:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message With NMS on hold there are currently plans to revamp .223 ammo in UC-1.13 - mostly ammotype selection, but I might as well add some belts (I think that drum is a round belt holder from the info I read). My current plans for .223 will be save game breaking so I'm saving them for a major revision.

The VEPR right now is missing a Tac-stock variant, so there is a need for one more variant. Actually, I won't be adding any more guns until the next major revision (the one where .223 will be worked on).

EDIT: sorry got "to" and "until" mixed up

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:47:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I've been wondering, have you thought about revamping the ammo values at all? What I mean is that seeing the same values on basically every AP and HP variation, regardless of caliber, doesn't tell you much. I imagine that caliber still comes into play but there's really very little in the way of visual representation. Weapon damage? Can that be the only difference? MAM style is a bit too much but some variation would be nice. Just a thought.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:49:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There are already several flavours of AP in the mods: Pistol AP, Slow Large Calibre AP, Old AP, Old XAP, Large Calibre AP, Heavy AP.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:06:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That's what I mean. Caliber doesn't seem to matter much. Penetration VS. stopping power and

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:13:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Those are the reasons behind the multiple AP values ammotypes. Take a magazine of 9mm AP, 5.56 AP, 5.56 Heavy, 7.62x51mm AP, and 7.62x39mm AP they all should have different modifiers.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:29:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.grandpower.eu/en/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_zbrane1.tpl &product_id=26&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=119 grand power k22 s or cz kadet adaptor ... http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/79-pistols-cz/PA/CZ_75_ADAPTER_KADET.aspx both are in .22 caliber

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:43:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'll add the CZ-75 Kadet, not the adapter though as there wouldn't be an in-game reason to downgrade the weapon. Not unless a player wants to deliberately use a .22LR for in-combat training of mercs.

EDIT: if someone can do a decent set of graphics for the Grand Power K22, I'll add it as well. This whole .22LR business is actually a long term plan to be worked on over several months and includes resorting all the items again. Additionally I'm going to start playing around with the in-game encyclopedia. From some of the feedback, and watching the two "Let's Play" runs of UC-1.13 on youtube, there appear to be some features that can be better explained in-game...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:43:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 64 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Some potential additions for the civilian market. 5.45 and 7.62, semi-auto. http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-semiauto-kalashnikov.shtml

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 19 Feb 2012 19:45:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I may just add the Grand Power K22 to fill a capability gap. While researching for "Project Squirrel Hunter" got the idea to ease the likely first UBT battles by arming the hooligans with .22LR weapons. Even found/added a handmade Russian .22LR revolver popular with criminals there. May be a good idea to fill out their numbers with more eastern .22LR auto-loading pistols, though so far all I'm finding are competition guns.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:22:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .45 ACP +P ammunition. More pressure for an already powerful round. Special ammo for a special weapon. The HK MK23 along with other "classics" can supposedly handle it. Special ops stuff indeed!

Then there's .45 Colt. +P variants come with almost twice (!) the pressure. Great for those big nasty revolvers and rifles (carbines?).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 11 Mar 2012 18:19:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Slax.45 ACP +P ammunition. More pressure for an already powerful round. Special ammo for a special weapon. The HK MK23 along with other "classics" can supposedly handle it. Special ops stuff indeed!

Then there's .45 Colt. +P variants come with almost twice (!) the pressure. Great for those big nasty revolvers and rifles (carbines?).

Due to the nature of XML modding, it would be easier to introduce .45 Colt, including +P, instead of adding +P .45 ACP. I'll think about it because there is going to be a big gap in the middle when I move .223 Remington to the end of the ammo list (so I can easily add all the versions on the todo list).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:07:27 GMT

Page 65 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.gunshop.cz/en/gsg-ak-47-r-22lr-2620.html ak in .22lr something for squiriel hunting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzDWHOV3Lx8 1911 in .22 lr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMuI4L-qk1w or 1911 cheaper clone in same caliber

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:15:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, I forgot to add a .22 LR AK clone. Probably modify one of the existing ones into one (just need to splice in the appropriate magazine). Do people want one in wood or synthetic furniture?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:09:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i personaly prefer wood furniture,colt 1911 in .22 lr is not insteresting for your needs?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:59:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://glockstore.com/pgroup_descrip/20/2560_.22%2BLR%2BConversion%2BKit/ http://glockstore.com/pgroup_descrip/20_Training+Devices/2560_.22+LR+Conversion+Kit/?return =%3ftpl%3Dindex%26category_id%3D20%26_Training%2BDevices%2F/#video

.22 lr conv. kit for glock

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:52:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message this one can bring fresh air to the mod http://www.shopcorbon.com/Glaser-Safety-Slug/762x39-130gr-Glaser/05600/500/Product what you think about this one?

Page 66 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:19:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No to the Glock 22LR conversion: 1) not much reason to downgrade any found Glocks, even less for ones bought and shipped to your mercs 2) already plenty of European Polymer pistols in .22 LR

GSS 7.62x39mm - I'll think about depending on how the whole ammo revamp for later this year goes.

EDIT: will be adding the following:

Modernized FG-42 - gets more use out of 20 round mags for 8mm Mauser (or whatever notation is used in-game)

PDR-C - again it fits a niche in-game, and must encourage people to do more artwork. Hint to people who browse this thread, throw artwork at me and I'll come to you asking for permission to add it to the mods...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:47:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message While browsing sniper rifles i realized there is no Cheytac Intervention. Due to appearance in MW2 it became an iconic gun. I know it has its own caliber and sniper selection is already too crowded but i just wanted to tell.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Kaerar on Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:36:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .408 or .375 Cheytac isn't the best unless you are going for short tactical insertions due to availability (especially in JA2). Tough gun to draw in 117px too due to detail, but can be done.

Though I think others are needed first.

Working on these at the moment:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:17:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 67 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit wil473: it is a posible make cleaning aviable for pistols ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:28:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00wil473: it is a posible make cleaning aviable for pistols ?

Sure anything that I figured out how to setup with items and mergers can be applied to another gun, but the question is do I want to? Answer is no, the Cleaning Kit was originally meant to take the edge off of lack of reliability found on AR-15. It later expanded to other rifles. I am not going to expand weapons that cleaning kits are applicable to pistols as that would water down its purpose even more.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 08 Apr 2012 19:19:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/smith-wesson-632-carry-comp-pro-series-327-magnu m/

.327 federal magnum caliber devolpment from .32 caliber,it is a more more modern & having more power,almost at level .357 magnum ruger rehawk have variant in .327 federal http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-327s.htm

.41 magnum another intesting caliber http://www.shootingtimes.com/2011/01/24/handgun_reviews_sw_model_357_night_guard_41_ma gnum_012411/

s&w model 357 or http://www.shootingtimes.com/2011/03/04/handgun_reviews_the_ruger_41_magnum_flattop_revo lver_030411/

Page 68 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit ruger flattop it is a variant from ruger redhawk

choice is yours ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by veedotja2 on Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:53:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I made a rather impassioned case for inclusion of the the Winchester Model 94 lever action rifle in .30-30 caliber over in the AIMNAS request thread. I don't know how to link to a specific post, sorry, I think I have the only posts that discuss the .30-30 so a quick search ought to turn it up.

In summation: It is a very real, very popular (millions!) rifle / caliber combination. They are ubiquitous in the United States. They are also quite popular in South America, the setting for JA2's fictional Arulco, and has military application as a "scout rifle" platform when mounted with a low power (2.5-4x) scope. This is a gun highly likely to be found in the militia of a poor South American nation. My post in the AIMNAS forum has links to scope mount manufacturers, ghost ring sight sellers, and a synthetic stock "tactical" .30-30 lever action made by Mossberg - with rails even! With modern ammunition (that has eliminated the blunt nose bullet limitation) the .30-30 gives up nothing to any other intermediate range rifle caliber.

More important than the rifle really is the .30-30 cartridge itself, the most popular caliber by far in the lever action platform, and much harder hitting than any pistol-caliber (.44, .357, etc.) lever gun. In fact, the rifle could even be a Marlin 336, or Mossberg 464, etc and not the Winchester. I do like the Winchester Model 94 because the graphic is already in the XML and that particular .30-30 lever action was made in vast numbers since its introduction in 1895, 117 years ago!

I made one for my own game using the Winchester trapper graphic. Since the ballistics of the .30-30 are similar to 7.62x39mm Warsaw Pact I made it take that caliber, though it really needs it's own ammo entry. My attempts to add a caliber didn't work out so well. I will persist but I'm sure some xml whiz can knock it out in a day.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by veedotja2 on Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:57:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I also agree with Wolf00 that some more revolvers are needed, but if a new caliber is called for,

Page 69 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit .45 Long Colt is a no brainer. The .454 Casull in game is a lengthened .45 LC, and is "backwards compatible," .45 LC can chamber in those guns. Not in-game, of course, but in real life.

Plus, with .45 LC we can have ambidextrous Colt Peacemakers. Yee-haw!

One more thing that bothers me. .223 Remington and 5.56x45mm guns take different ammunition. .223 and 5.56x45mm are technically (though not practically) different but the in-game effect caused by separating them as two ammo types leads to a bizarre situation where a merc cannot use ammo that really ought to fit, even in a pinch.

The same situation in real life exists with the interchangeability of .308 Winchester and 7.62x51mm ammo but JA1.13 simply uses the latter even in rifles that should be .308 in real life, such as the Steyr Scout or the Vepr-308 (which even has .308 in the name)! Come to think of it this would be a good solution for .223, get rid of it altogether and change the .223 guns to 5.56x45mm since there are only a few .223 guns relative to the number of 5.56x45mm guns. This eliminates complication and is a real-world solution a ragtag bunch of scrounging mercs would adopt anyway!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:52:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .223 will persist for historical reasons (Urban Chaos). I will be looking into using item transformations (HAM5 feature) to convert ammo between .223 and 5.56mm NATO, the big thing being whether or not the ammo count is preserved between conversions.

A proven capability is guns that convert between calibres and I'll be proceeding with multi-cal weapon copies of some existing guns in future.

.45 Long Colt will be added along with compatible .410 shotgun shells.

No time till summer for any of this. Perhaps someone will take up New Magazine System (which includes multi-calibre compatibility for guns) and make this a moot point...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:03:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message cz vz83 variant from czechoslovakia servise pistol vz82 caliber .32 acp 15 rounds capacity http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-82-83-e.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD7JdK6eZX0 grafics is aviable from iov[nickel variant]

Page 70 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Xubor on Tue, 17 Apr 2012 23:22:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20483961/xubor_guns.png

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:34:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message xubor:please are you able draw this gun ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Xubor on Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:32:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00xubor:please are you able draw this gun ?

Well, I would need more pictures.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:17:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

here is some more images

Page 71 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Xubor on Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:22:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message what about this? It's partly copied from another image though

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:06:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message very nice,this one is para ordonance p14-45 limited [colonel shepard sidearm from stargate atlantis] arulco folding stock & urban chaos are wil473 work.choice is yours ....

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:11:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gotta love those one-shot pistols.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:25:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Xubor, with the Para P14-45, I'd prefer a more prominent magazine (that extended bit) to set it apart from singe stack 1911's already in-game please. Without a tac rail, it would make a good replacement for the graphics currently in use. With a tac rail (ie. easy edit) it would possibly be a new gun.

EDIT: checking the stock v1.13 graphics, the High-Capacity 1911 has the magazine extension, though not as prominent as I'd like.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Xubor on Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:17:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473Xubor, with the Para P14-45, I'd prefer a more prominent magazine (that extended bit)

Did it. What about the other guns?

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:15:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Xubor:

Para Ordinance P14-45 - replacement for current graphics

Para Ordinance P14-45 Tactical - new gun, will have to wait till v4.xx

Liemke DB-10 - Bullpup HK SL-8? Sure, I don't think the mod has a civilian bullpup in 5.56mm

Fortek 2002 - yes it will be in v4.xx, need a .50 BMG from Western Europe

SR-93 - seems to be somewhat rare

XP-100/100R - new calibre, or new size of .223 Rem (1 and/or 4 rounds)?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:25:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I say use the SR-93 (.338) as a unique/rare police weapon. Some fancy sniper dude, lawn chair on a roof. Starting to wish that Danubia was twice its normal size. More opportunities to find fun loot.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Xubor on Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:40:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Wil473: I gathered some infos for you

The DB-10 is the bullpub version of the H&K SLB2000 hunting rifle. barrel: 20" overall length: 82cm calibers: .223 /5.56x45 7,62mm NATO (.308 Win) 30-06 7,92x57 IS (Mauser)

Page 73 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 300 Win Mag Weight: 4,6kg Magazin sizes: 2, 5, 10 Price:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:13:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message mcr from czech republic cz 805 A1 Bren[7.62x39 , 5.56x45 & 6.8x43 spc] http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/86-law-enforcement-military/OS-AUT/CZ_805_BREN_A1.aspx full size http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/86-law-enforcement-military/OS-AUT/CZ_805_BREN_A2.aspx carabine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaL_oKeESUI

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Parkan on Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:22:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hello wil473.I have a little question\critic on all this stuff: The ja2 1.13 and Urban chaos mod is already have a many types of weapons.Why you still adding new weapons?What a reason for this?Maybe is will be much good if you develop the mod on gameplay stuff not a weapon stuff?

Ps.it was just a question.Your work on UC is great,but really there is already a lot of weapons.=)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:28:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Including v3.65, the last few version of both AFS and UC-1.13 included substantial attempts to re-balance NCTH. My attempts to prove that we all initially got the treatment of pistols under NCTH backwards being the most recent modification to game play.

New guns are easy to add, introducing a new feature like Over Heating weapons will take substantially more time and effort. I will not be in a position to implement much of anything till this summer. Aside from the new guns discussed here, v4.xx will have:

- rebuild of the item ordering to facilitate other features - rework all item sizes now that the limits have been externalized (this will take weeks...)

Page 74 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit - rework graphic libraries now that there are more of them available. - removal of Folding Stock System (FSS) v3 in favour of HAM5 Item Transformation FSS v4 - rebuild of attachment lists using the (New) Common Attachment Framework - it shouldn't be as bad as it sounds as the point of (N)CAF is to streamline the work of assigning attachments - Figure out how to add the JA1/DG mercs in UC-1.13 if possible, some will be in-country as RPC's, some may even fill in the ranks of the PMC serving Kingpin in the "UC-1.13: Betrayal" project - fixing up a few UBT maps - underbarrel shotgun(s) - weapon overheating - trip mines and claymores - anything else Flugente, Madd Mugsy, et al come up with by the time I start v4.xx

All of the features to be implemented will take several hours to days each to implement. A new gun should be less than an hour once the artwork is done.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by smeagol on Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:11:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473- rework all item sizes now that the limits have been externalized (this will take weeks...)

No kidding!

I have a spreadsheet for the itemsizes I use in AIMNAS. Maybe you'd want to use that as well. ATM I use 950 item sizes instead of 34.

If you're interested I can upload the spreadsheet to my skydrive.

Quote:- rework graphic libraries now that there are more of them available.

This will actually take even longer than item sizes. Even getting a decent 10 colour palettes for the the 10 available sti files is a LOT of work. I tried to make the palettes and gave up on that due to lack of time.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 10 May 2012 10:52:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/sv99-e.html short range sniper rifle .22lr

Page 75 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 14 May 2012 17:14:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Taking a break from real world commitments, I've updated my chart for how v4.xx is going to look - its ugly as far as changes go. Unless someone produces a proper Rifle Grenade System, there are already over 900 individual gun weapons and over 800 magazine items. I haven't even figured out where to put all the stuff displaced by mod specific changes.

Planned changes/features that just add to the mess - Multi-magazine shotguns: ie. one barrel will be a permanent "underbarrel" so each gun is actually two in the XML's - - Neostead - - Kel-Tec KSG - - UTAS UTS-15 - 2nd FN Barracuda to use .38 Special (just like AIMNAS) - most G3 and MP5 weapons will have fixed/retractable stock items - .300 BLK versions of the major HK416 variants, existing .300 BLK weapons will be direct impingement (meaning they won't like sustained autofire when overheating weapons is on)

For the next little while I will only be considering new guns in .45 Long Colt and .410 gauge. Particular interest in dual ammo guns (even though it will take up two item numbers) like the Taurus Judge.

Additionally, unless by some coding god comes up with "real-rifle-grenades" there is now a limit of 40 gun indexes left for UC-1.13 2012(or 2013 if I go by car model years). I am loath to cut the capability because I'm also looking to add IoV's system of converting some hand grenades into rifle launched grenades...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 14 May 2012 17:30:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Think I'll put in a request for a long slide LAR Grizzly. Something for BR's Used section, maybe? I enjoy rarities.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 15 May 2012 15:53:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxThink I'll put in a request for a long slide LAR Grizzly. Something for BR's Used section, maybe? I enjoy rarities. Perhaps after I fill in the .410 & .45Colt roster.

Page 76 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Looks like I have a candidate for the first .45Colt rifle for the game, and it is a dual calibre weapon too: Rossi(Legacy) Puma in .454Casul and .45Colt with a 10 (9+1) round capacity. Need to see what else is suggested before I decide on adding a new capacity size for .454Casul

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Sweeper on Fri, 18 May 2012 10:36:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, you changed my opinion on the 22 LR calibre yesterday when I pulled out the MK22 SCAR. Now what I would like is a complete AR-15 clone weapon of some sort in .22 LR that you later can buy any upper for and convert it to say a 300 Blackout rifle when it becomes avalible. I haven't tested or seen if there is one of these availible in the game right now, but I am toying with the 22 LR and I really like the Rat shot

Secondly, I have noticed that the latest release has a bug with Tony and Devin, their inventory have gotten sliced, even though the Booby Rays selection is set to Awesome (Always play with a lot of options till I learn the game and systems, and experiment.) Also I am missing mortars, grenades, grenade launcher grenades from Bobby Rays in there as well at the moment. I can understand it for lower settings than "Awesome", but I kinda expect to have it all with that setting turned on, dunno if it is a bug or not.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 18 May 2012 10:52:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The BR settings only govern 'how much' shows up 'when'. They have no influence on 'what' the modder wants BR to sell.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 18 May 2012 16:30:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .22, the mild 5.56

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 27 May 2012 19:19:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Only ten item indexes left for the 2013 Model year AFS/UC-1.13/DL-1.13, here are the planned additions so far:

Page 77 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit .22 Carbine (& Upper Receiver) .22 Rifle (& Upper Receiver) AK-12 (5.45x39mm, 7.62x39mm, Integral Rifle Grenade Launching***, and Tactical Stock variants) Baikal MP-27M (in .410 Gauge) Baikal MP-94 (12 Gauge / .223 Rem combination gun) Baikal MP-161K (.22LR/.22WMR) Baikal MCM Baikal Margolin Browning Automatic Rifle Cobra Titan Derringer (.45 Colt/.410 Gauge in 1+1/0, 0/1+1, and 1/1 combinations via HAM5 item transformation) CZ BRNO Combo (.30-08 / 12 Gauge combination gun) Fortek 2002 Gressar 2000 Henry Big Boy Henry Mare's Leg .22 Henry Mare's Leg .45 Colt HK 416 D10RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) HK 416 D145RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) HK 416 D16RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) HK 416 D20RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) Kel-Tec KSG LAR Grizzly .45 WM Long Slide Liemke DB-10 (probably in 5.56x45mm) M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System Micor Defense MD 50 Mossberg Model 500 .410 ParaOrdinance P14-45 Tactical Remington M870 Masterkey Remington M1100 (.410 Gauge Shotgun) Remington XP-100 (.223) Remington XP-100R (7.62x51mm) Rossi Circuit Judge (.45 Colt/.410 Gauge) Safir T14 (& Upper Receiver) Saiga 410K (& Tactical Stock variants) Savage Arms Model 42 (.22 WMR/.410 Gauge combination gun) Taurus Judge (.45 Colt/.410 Gauge) Taurus Model 4510 (.45 Colt/.410 Gauge) Taurus Thunderbolt UTAS UTS-15

In addition, the following .357Magnum weapons will get .38Special copies:

FN Barracuda Hartford 6 Manurhin MR-73

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Fr. Arms M83 Premier Grade Ruger S. Redhawk Alaskan SSK Contender Encore (also a copy for .410 Gauge)

*** New feature, many rifles will have "integral" rifle grenade launching capability made possible when the mod moves on from the Stable Release (needs HAM 5 item transform feature).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 29 May 2012 15:02:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:there is something,you can choice one from these if you like it ... http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/80-rimfire-rifles-cz/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 29 May 2012 17:15:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Already have the CZ BRNO Combo (.30-08 / 12 Gauge combination gun) in the list, though I suppose another .22 WMR rifle could be useful. Now that I think about it, I don't think there is a bolt action .22 WMR rifle in the mods.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Headhunter on Tue, 29 May 2012 19:32:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about the LWRC PSD in .300 Blackout? Dude talks about it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBlvMyt_iQ

Also this: http://world.guns.ru/machine/usa/lwmmg-e.html DepressivesBrot mentioned it in another thread.

How about re-adding the M27 IAR, why was this cut anyway?

M110 SASS: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/mk11-mod0-m110-sr-25-e.html

Page 79 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 29 May 2012 19:34:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The M27 is the standard HK416, it doesn't even have a heavy barrel, only a bayonet lug.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 29 May 2012 22:49:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, there wasn't enough to differentiate the M27 from one of the already plentiful HK416 weapons already in the mod.

Similarly the existing Knights SR-25 covers the M110 SASS.

Not interested in the LWRC PSD in .300BLK, the MAR-300 (with a trigger group) covers the direct-impingement SBR in that calibre. That said, I am interested in the bolt carrier upgrade they were discussing. The AR-15's in the mod are somewhat infamous for their jam potential, so an upgrade item to improve reliability sounds like a good idea. Now if only someone would figure out a way to have attachments grant autofire, I could eliminate a few more guns from the mod...

Adding the following: CZ 455 VARMINT - 6 round (pretend its one in the chamber) .22 WMR bolt action CZ 512 - 2nd gun to use a 10 round .22 WMR magazine that still needs to be added (otherwise I was planning on making the Baikal MP-161K in .22 WMR a 6 round weapon)

Basically the .22WMR magazines were setup a bit funny due to the first weapons in this calibre being those odd Kel-tec guns. These additions will fix that.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Headhunter on Tue, 29 May 2012 23:22:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473Yeah, there wasn't enough to differentiate the M27 from one of the already plentiful HK416 weapons already in the mod.

Similarly the existing Knights SR-25 covers the M110 SASS.

Okay, just curious.

Quote:Not interested in the LWRC PSD in .300BLK, the MAR-300 (with a trigger group) covers the direct-impingement SBR in that calibre. That said, I am interested in the bolt carrier upgrade they were discussing. The AR-15's in the mod are somewhat infamous for their jam potential, so an upgrade item to improve reliability sounds like a good idea.

Page 80 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Yeah, it could fit in one of those "internal slots"-thingies couldn't it...

Quote:Now if only someone would figure out a way to have attachments grant autofire, I could eliminate a few more guns from the mod...

Maybe I'm just an idiot here, but isn't that what the trigger group is for?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 29 May 2012 23:37:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nope trigger group modifies the number of shots in a burst. Specifically the Trigger Group attachment adds 3, so guns with 0 rounds burst (no burst) become 3 round burst. Allow a gun with a 3 round burst to have the TG attachment, and you will end up with a 6 round burst.

Still waiting someone to add a tag that allows an attachment to go from no autofire to some autofire. Would allow:

- elimination of the M16A4 as it would be handled by a trigger group swap - Homebrew/ghetto Glock17 to 18 conversion

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:34:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message CZ 527

Small bolt-action rifle/carbine, 7.62x39. CZ fits Danubia, methinks.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:33:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Name me a second five round 7.62x39mm weapon and the CZ-527 will be in. That or we'll all have to pretend it has a 10 round magazine option.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 19 Jun 2012 14:40:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Go for a Saiga. Don't know any models but I'm sure there are some semi-auto 5-rounders out

Page 81 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit there. A good counterpart, I'd say. Well, maybe not. Saiga's AK hunting variants would be able to take bigger mags. No reason to stick with a tiny box. Maybe a Norinco instead, just to be problematic.

There's this thing. And this. Possibly something for Bobby Ray's.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:04:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, it is going to be another hunting rifle. Still there are about a dozen item slots available for guns in the 2013 Model Year AFS/DL-1.13/UC-1.13. Basically, I gave in and now items 1001-2000 will be gun items (remember, some guns take up multiple item indexs).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Headhunter on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:21:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message What about the SMLE? You got the Mauser, the Garand, the Nagant but no Enfield...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:13:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think the Enfield is already on the list, added along with a few more BREN's that were recently drawn.

EDIT: nope, got the BREN/.303British mixed up with the BAR/.30-06 on the big list. Still, it is relatively easy to add a new calibre (compared to splicing ammo for existing calibres, which I'm doing anyways) so the SMLE, BREN Mk.4, .303British have been added. Down to eight spots now.

EDIT2: by the way, part of the reason why v4.xx/2013 is down to eight spots is that I got around to implementing some stock v1.13 guns that I skipped over in past. Ran into them while finishing up the initial import of Overheating Weapons stats.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M.Ciaster on Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:00:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I feel kind of weird posting here, because I'm mostly a lurker and post rarely, and thus I'm not sure if I should contribute to this thread. Heh.

Page 82 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit ANYWAY, I thought that an AR-10 would be great - you've got the power of 7.62x51 in a form easier to control than your average FAL or M14, and I guess you could make it take all these goodies the AR-15 weapons can (with maybe an exclusion of the handguard attachments, requiring the player to replace the handguard with the RIS version), making it a nice alternative for the people who prefer more vintage weapons but still want to have the tactical capabilities of the modern ones. Plus, the brown furniture would make it a really nice counterbalance to all these black AR-15s. Besides, you've already got the mag and everything, so this wouldn't be too much of a problem. That, and I always wanted to see an AR-10 in the game, but that's a purely personal reason and feel free to ignore it.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by WaterHazard on Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:30:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hmmmmm i'm looking forward to the new underbarrel weapons and the new combination guns! btw the new version will come out this year or in 2013?

Anyway i would like to see non-lethal weaponry in-game (just for the coolness factor LOL;;;)

Attachable and stand-alone Advanced Taser M26:

And what is this MAUL attachment? (I saw for use in the IOV mod)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:36:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 9x21 glock?

I'm currently using it. Just duplicated good ol' glock 19.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:19:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 83 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit walther pp .22 Lr hard to find,because it is aviable only in limited number's ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:02:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message WaterHazardhmmmmm i'm looking forward to the new underbarrel weapons and the new combination guns! btw the new version will come out this year or in 2013?

Now that depends on your definition of "year"... For now I am using the car company definition so sometime between now and September 2013.

WaterHazard Anyway i would like to see non-lethal weaponry in-game (just for the coolness factor LOL;;;)

Well the graphics exist, I wonder if sound files do too in IoV.

Also see the changes being proposed below for the UDAR ammo.

WaterHazard And what is this MAUL attachment? (I saw for use in the IOV mod) MAUL is a shotgun using Metal Storm technology. With Underbarrel weapons, it can be done...

Gambigobilla9x21 glock?

I'm currently using it. Just duplicated good ol' glock 19. As far as I know, 9x21mm in-game is not the 9x21mm IMI in the Glock. So no, unless you can both name some other notable 9x21mm IMI guns, and give me some advantages of this round. wolf00walther pp .22 Lr hard to find,because it is aviable only in limited number's ..

No plans right now, but the PP in .22LR and the AR-10 (as graphics exist) are contenders, behind 9x21mm guns, for inclusion in the few spots remaining.

Some additional details for changes to non-12gauge shells:

UDAR ammo, on more research on the UDAR, the following will be done to its ammo:

- renamed 12.3x50mmR - now called a cartridge clip instead of speedloader - the 12guage based graphics I did all those years ago will be replaced by proper "brass" based

Page 84 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit graphics - the ammo box graphic will be replaced with something Russian (instead of "Fiocchi" boxes) - removing Flechette ammotype - will be available in: Ball, Buckshot, SAP, Flashbang, Tear Gas (2nd type with smaller cloud), and Baton (new type, much reduced health damage, but massive breath damage)

.410 Gauge will be available in: - Slug - Birdshot (new type, the .22LR/.22WMR Rat-shot rounds will be switched to this ammotype as well) - Buckshot (new 3 pellet type) - Dragon's Breath (new fire round suitable for a spray effect) - Tear Gas (same new type mentioned above)

Am I missing anything as far as shells?

EDIT: Reorganized the v4.xx planning chart, added some additional guns to justify the 10 round .22 WMR/.22 Magnum 10 round magazine

AMT Automag II (not sure if I'm just going to use the Automag IV graphic or create a new one) Excel Arms MP-22 Accelerator Excel Arms MR-22 Accelerator

And to get more out of some rarely used calibres:

Excel Arms X-5.7P Excel Arms X-5.7R - existing 20rd 5.7x28mm magazines - can use appropriate AR-15 accessories, but like the Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 not part of the AR-15 Upper Receiver system

Excel Arms X-30P Excel Arms X-30R - new 20rd .30Car magazines - can use appropriate AR-15 accessories, but like the Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 not part of the AR-15 Upper Receiver system

Since graphics exist, added: Armalite AR-10 - due to its age, it will not be compatible with most AR-15 specific attachments or be part of the AR-15 Upper Receiver system Taser - I'm hoping one item that can server both as a pistol and as an under-barrel attachment

Only five spots left.

Page 85 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:04:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Double-posting as this is a somewhat important update: v4.xx numbering scheme for ammunition is now out of indexes with the addition of 12 gauge Metal Storm and the Taser catridge.

.22 Carbine (& Upper Receiver) - .22LR / 30 .22 Rifle (& Upper Receiver) - .22LR / 30 AK-12 (Integral Rifle Grenade Launching***, and Tactical Stock variants) - 5.45x39mm / 45 AK-12 (Integral Rifle Grenade Launching***, and Tactical Stock variants) - 7.62x39mm / 30 AMT Automag II - .22WMR / 10 Armalite AR-10 - 7.62x51mm / 20 Baikal MP-27M - .410 Gauge / 2 Baikal MP-94 - 12 gauge / 1 - combination with .223Rem / 1 Baikal MP-161K - .22LR / 10 Baikal MP-161K - .22WMR / 10 Baikal MCM - .22LR / 6 Baikal Margolin - .22LR / 10 Browning Automatic Rifle - .30-06 / 20 CZ 527 - 7.62x39mm / 5 CZ BRNO Combo - 12 Gauge / 2 - combination with .30-08 / 1 Excel Arms MP-22 Accelerator - .22WMR / 10 Excel Arms MR-22 Accelerator - .22WMR / 30 Excel Arms X-5.7P - 5.7x28mm / 20 Excel Arms X-5.7R - 5.7x28mm / 20 Excel Arms X-30P - .30Car / 20 Excel Arms X-30R - .30Car / 20 Fortek 2002 - .50BMG / 1 Gressar 2000 - .300WM / 5 Henry Big Boy - .45 Colt / 10 Henry Mare's Leg - .22LR / 10 Henry Mare's Leg - .45 Colt / 5 HK 416 D10RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) - .300 BLK / 30 HK 416 D145RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) - .300 BLK / 30 HK 416 D16RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) - .300 BLK / 30 HK 416 D20RS 300BLK (& Upper Receiver) - .300 BLK / 30 Innogun Hybrid - 7.92x57mm Mauser / 5 and 12 Gauge / 1 Izhmash Bars 4-1 - 7.62x39mm / 5 Kel-Tec KSG - .12 Gauge / 7 x 2 LAR Grizzly .45WM Long Slide - .45WM / 7 Liemke DB-10 - 5.56x45mm / 10 M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System - 12 Gauge / 6 Micor Defense MD 50 - .50BMG / 11 Metal Storm MAUL - 12 Gauge MS / 5 Mossberg Model 500 .410 - .410 Gauge / 5 ParaOrdinance P14-45 Tactical - .45ACP / 14

Page 86 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Remington M1100 - .410 Gauge / 5 Remington XP-100 - .223Rem / 1 Remington XP-100R - 7.62x51mm / 5 Rossi Circuit Judge - .45 Colt / 5 - convertible - .410 Gauge / 5 Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact - 7.62x39mm / 5 Safir T14 (& Upper Receiver) - .410 Gauge / 10 Saiga 410K (& Tactical Stock variants) - .410 Gauge / 10 Savage Arms Model 10 FCM Scout - 7.62x39mm Savage Arms Model 42 - .22WMR / 1 - combination .410 Gauge / 1 Taser X26 - Taser / 1 Taurus Judge - .45 Colt / 5 - convertible - .410 Gauge / 5 Taurus Model 4510 - .45 Colt / 5 - convertible - .410 Gauge / 5 Taurus Thunderbolt - 15 round magazine item for one out of production gun not justifiable UTAS UTS-15 - 12 Gauge / 7 x 2

In addition, the following .357Magnum weapons will get .38Special copies:

FN Barracuda Hartford 6 Manurhin MR-73 Winchester 94 Trapper .357 and the following .454 Casul will have .45 Colt copies:

Fr. Arms M83 Premier Grade Ruger S. Redhawk Alaskan SSK Contender Encore (also a copy for .410 Gauge)

At this point, the list for v4.xx is more or less done. Only guns to be considered now are things that either have completely new ammo (that can be pushed off to a new range), or something in a rare cartridge that uses existing magazines. Again, only five spots left.

*** New feature, many rifles will have "integral" rifle grenade launching capability made possible when the mod moves on from the Stable Release (needs HAM 5 item transform feature).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Haborym on Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:32:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 87 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Derp.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:05:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Do you specifically want to see these in UC, or did you mean to post your request here?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Haborym on Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:39:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message *facepalm* yeah, that's the one. I am very unfamiliar with this site and am not sure where everything is just yet.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by eNVee on Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:41:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Maybe you could add Robinson Arms XCR-L Pistol in 5.45x39mm? Of course, I know that 5.45mm isn't really that rare of a cartridge in your mod, but after all there is no other weapons, that fill the niche of pistol in this caliber.

And, well, as far as I understood, it uses gas piston system, similar to AK rifles to operate, so you could take a look at other calibers, if you would like to.

(Also, if someone reading this doesn't mind, could he rate how clear was this post by PM or otherwise. I'm still learning English language and would appreciate some pointers on where should I improve.)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by jEbUs on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:59:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Would it be possible to alter how BR works so people don't have to wade through swathes of .22 and low-quality guns when they've progressed further into the game?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by JMich on Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:48:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 88 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit jEbUsWould it be possible to alter how BR works so people don't have to wade through swathes of .22 and low-quality guns when they've progressed further into the game? In theory, yes, but it would require code changes. Also, by removing lower coolness items from BR, it means that you will lose access to vital items (toolkits, medikits, ammo, grenades, knives etc). So while possible, highly unlikely. You could use the filters BR has though to filter them a bit more though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:41:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message something like can be nice http://www.lowpriceguns.com/product.php_266227

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 03 Sep 2012 17:18:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00something like can be nice http://www.lowpriceguns.com/product.php_266227

As it looks like the Remington M1100 is no longer in production in .410, I'll probably be going with the M870 Wingmaster.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:42:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok fine .... im not if this gun is included in your mod http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=667&category=Revolver&toggle=&breadcrumbs eries=41

.45 long colt & .410g

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:53:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00ok fine .... im not if this gun is included in your mod http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=667&category=Revolver&toggle=&breadcrumbs eries=41

Page 89 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit .45 long colt & .410g

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, are you saying you will not be ok with the inclusion of the Taurus Judge? It has been in the list for quite some time now, so I don't think this is a request for it to be added to the list.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:56:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think he just forgot the 'sure'. You ever seen wolf not wanting to include a gun?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:10:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotYou ever seen wolf not wanting to include a gun? Good point.

By the way everyone, while there is now room for more guns, I'm still short on space for ammunition in the v4.xx scheme. Probably adding .380 ACP, another self-defence/concealed carry cartridge, though I haven't looked into its specific footprint in items.XML.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:49:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message im asking if is taurus judge present now in urban chaos .... .327 federal magnum looks interesting,i think it is logical choice,you have in mod some .32 caliber guns .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.327_Federal_Magnum

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:46:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No to the .327, I'm having enough problems trying to fit .380 ACP into the scheme, and there are more compelling reasons for its inclusion.

Page 90 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:33:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok fine ... http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/ar/bersa-thunder-380-e.html this ppk exit in caliber .380

one notice db sawed can have clone in .410

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:08:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message it posible add in mod watlher p-88 ? http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/de/walther-p-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by NewAgeOfPower on Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:52:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Magpul AFG- the Magpul Angled Foward Grip is an ergonomic grip that enhances weapon control.

Enhances accuracy and aiming modifiers, but has less effect on full auto Counter Force than the vertical grips.

EDIT:

Also, there is no way a hand-portable railgun fires slugs at a high fraction of C... A Mach number (5-10) might be plausible, but did you see the XKCD on .9C baseballs?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:54:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message HeavenlySwordMagpul AFG- the Magpul Angled Foward Grip is an ergonomic grip that enhances weapon control.

Page 91 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Enhances accuracy and aiming modifiers, but has less effect on full auto Counter Force than the vertical grips.

I've been considering this for some time now.

HeavenlySwordEDIT:

Also, there is no way a hand-portable railgun fires slugs at a high fraction of C... A Mach number (5-10) might be plausible, but did you see the XKCD on .9C baseballs?

While I can appreciate the reality of the subject, the railguns and their description are original Deidranna Lives! canon... just like the inclusion of the man portable Chain Gun, and the M41 Pulse Rifle.

EDIT: Can you name the films of the last century that inspired them?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:59:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It's not as bad - for low end projectile weights (1-5g) @ .9c we're only talking about tactical nukes in the double to low triple digit kilotons. Randall's baseball was a single digit megatons strategic weapon Yeah ... writers have no sense of scale.

Bonus Q: Eraser, Predator (if you mean the minigun, didn't find a chaingun in the xml) and Alien

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by NewAgeOfPower on Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:38:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473

While I can appreciate the reality of the subject...

A .9C railgun firing even a quarter gram slug is a weapon of mass destruction.

It will also kill it's user too...

EDIT: @ Depressive Ah. I didn't see your post before I wrote mine ;p

Page 92 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:44:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, I meant Minigun. If all goes well, I will have DL-1.13 v4.xx out around New Years in all its Hollywood Physics glory.

In the mean time, I will be revamping AR-15 Type weapon system - dumping the increasingly complicated merger relations for a more streamlined combination of mergers with lower receiver items, and item transformations to disassemble (I found out that Mad Mugsy already beat me to this idea).

Now you may have noticed I said lower receivers, the plural form, well I will be adding a whole new series of AR style weapons based on the Colt LE901 lower receiver. Basically most AR Uppers can be mounted to the Colt LE901 lower to form a single shot weapon with accuracy bonuses as befitting the use of the Colt LE901 as a precision rifle (we'll say it has a very nice trigger that improves accuracy).

I've also reserved space for something else, though it needs some more testing before I can commit to it. After the above, and some .380ACP guns I'll be adding, there are now only a dozen or so weapon slots left from the slots that Flugente heroically liberated.

EDIT: dropping the idea of a full range of trigger groups of AR-style weapons, so now I've got about 40 item indexes left after the LE901 system's inclusion.

Expanding the number of Rifle Launched Grenades:

Rifle Launched Smoke Grenade Rifle Launched Tear Gas Grenade Rifle Launched Mustard Gas Grenade Rifle Launched Illumination Grenade Rifle Launched White Phosphorus Grenade (this one if I can figure out how to make both smoke and fire come out of the same grenade via the fragmentation system)

EDIT2: decided to add the AK-12 in its Heavy (7.62x51mm) variant

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:12:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:maybe cz vzor 83 can be your gun in your mod,caliber .380 15 rounds http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-82-83-e.html

Page 93 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 16:57:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I took a look at the CZ 82/83 and the .380ACP variant actually has a 12 round capacity. Not adding a 12 round .380 mag. Now that said, there is a 12 round 9x18mm magazine that was added some time ago when I decided to make 9x18mm and the PMM form semi-interchangeable (via item transforms). So yes the CZ 82/83 will be added, but in 9x18mm.

EDIT: due to the fact it is easier to modify guns (the AK-12 is based on the existing v1.13 AK-100's, and then further modified for each variant), I am happy to announce the AK-12 will be added in the following forms.

Automatic Rifle (AK handling & AP costs / RPK magazine capacity & overheating unless otherwise noted), and "U" form carbine

5.45x39mm 7.62x39mm 9x39mm (Sci-fi) 6.8mm SPC (I'm not adding 6.5 Grendel, probably Sci-fi as well though there are rumours of an advance Western round being used) 7.62x51mm (20 round mag)

PPK-12 9x21mm (instead of the more likely in real life 9x19mm)

SVK-12 7.62x51mm 10round capacity 7.62x54mmR 10 round capacity

These are all going to be Coolness 7-10 weapons.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:27:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Fancy. They gonna see any action or just fill up Bobby Ray's?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:55:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The AK-12's are meant to fill in for the seeming depletion in enemy gear choices by late game: v4.xx will be reworking coolness (again)

Page 94 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 0-1 = .22 pistols, very small (short range) 9x18mm pistols 2-3 = .22 SMGs & rifles, 9x18 service pistols & SMGs, .410 Shotguns 3 = 9x18mm(PMM) guns, AKS-74U, SKS 3-5 = Lots of AK's, 9x19mm side arms, bolt action 7.62x54mmR rifles, 12g shotguns 5 = RPD 6 = Better AK's (100 series), self-loading 7.62x54mmR Rifles, RPK's 7-10 = 9x21mm guns, AEK-97x, AN-94, AK-12's, larger cal sniper rifles, PKM and related weapons

Not sure if I want to make the AK-12's available in BR's, for all intents and purposes, a player can assemble a functionally identical weapon from a AK-100's given the right attachments. The game however cannot, justifying the many examples I've been putting together via the power of cut&paste.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 02:21:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looking forward to the early game in that case. Sneaking into Port Kip, clearing the merchant sectors, going to business with civilian rifles and scavenged goodies! Well, that'd definitely be the easy route.

Any plans for any major map updates? Things have felt a bit wonky (easy or simply uninteresting) for a while now. Been more noticeable now with Arulco Revisited setting new standards.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:14:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ironically, I was planning on cleaning up the original maps campaign (so that it used only original Urban Chaos maps) in UC-1.13 v4.xx.

I'm not sure I'm the best qualified person for crafting new maps, not much feedback from the few maps I have edited (UBT, Drake University).

Back on topic, I'm deciding to add the Bersa Thunder 380 PLUS (the double stack magazine variant) - another gun to use the .380ACP 15 round magazine.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by NewAgeOfPower on Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:04:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473Ironically, I was planning on cleaning up the original maps campaign (so that it used only original Urban Chaos maps) in UC-1.13 v4.xx.

Page 95 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I'm not sure I'm the best qualified person for crafting new maps, not much feedback from the few maps I have edited (UBT, Drake University).

Back on topic, I'm deciding to add the Bersa Thunder 380 PLUS (the double stack magazine variant) - another gun to use the .380ACP 15 round magazine.

I'm enjoying the UBT, but I've never played the old system.

A bug (may have been reported before) occurs on Drassen/Calisto Airport, when I try to load it. Probably a large BR order and the box didn't close or something.

BR's worked for 4-5 orders, and this order crashes it. I sadly have no saves where this does NOT occur, so 20 days into my campaign and I already am locked out of BR's.

Still, I have 2 assault teams all wearing Striker/Commando and with at least on-par weaponry. I should be fine. Will give you a review when I'm done playing.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:37:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote: Rifle Launched White Phosphorus Grenade (this one if I can figure out how to make both smoke and fire come out of the same grenade via the fragmentation system)

This will be possible very easily with a new feature I am currently doing - artillery strikes. A minor sub-feature of this is the ability to 'chain' explosives. That way you can have, say, a flare that also emits smoke. And does a vacuum explosion. And sends out frags. That are rockets. You get the idea.

Atm it's not possible.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Tobias on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:27:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473 Yeah, there wasn't enough to differentiate the M27 from one of the already plentiful HK416 weapons already in the mod.

Just a question. What do you think why choose the U.S.M.C. the HK M27 IAR to replace the SAW

Page 96 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit M249? If it is just an HK416 with 100 round Beta C-Mag? On the HK-USA website is written that it usest a heavier barrel and some other new features ...

I am just interrested.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:36:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Could you link the page directly? Didn't find anything.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Tobias on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:35:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Here are some links: http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/usmc-m27-infantry-automatic-rifle-video

They say there are just some fine tuning on this rifle. So pretty much an HK416. http://spartanat.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/m27-iar-va-hk-416/ http://www.hk-usa.com/military_products/mil_newsroom_10042011.asp

Interessting fact in 2011 introduced LWRC International their own M27 IAR. Why the USMC has not chosen this weapon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OukIvPxdakw

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:32:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, I know that material. I was specifically asking about your claim that Farmer TobyOn the HK-USA website is written that it usest a heavier barrelIn fact, I used the very same video to support that it doesn't.

As for the whole issue what the Corps choose and why ... I suppose they have their reasons. An

Page 97 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit undying legend is that it's supposed to be a back door to adopt the 416 as the standard rifle instead of the M4/M16 As for the LWRC: That swap from closed to open bolt sure is technically intriguing, but it just screams 'more complex, moving parts'. The 416 on the other hand had already been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, going by another press release on the HK page. A clear plus over a totally new system. Another fun fact: That scene where Mack touches the LWRC's bolt in your vid? There's another FW episode where he disassembles the 416 after dumping a Beta on full auto, holding the bolt in his hand ... doesn't seem to be much difference there.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:44:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message At best, I've seen "slightly heavier profile" barrel noted for the M27. There is also acknowledgement from the USMC that the M27 will have a lower rate of sustained fire vs. the SAW (which is not being totally replaced by the M27). Can't seem to find the USMC press release (which in my end of academia would be treated as a primary document, even with the spin) I ran into yesterday noting the trade-off of accuracy vs. sustained firepower.

EDIT: if people really want one, I've got room in the attachments for a "slightly heavier profile" barrel that can convert the HK 416 into a M27-like weapon (or give the M4/M16 better overheating characteristics). I think the Overheating system lets attachments modify how much heat a gun can take, just don't remember there being an example in-game already.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:56:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes it does (attachments can also modify the cooldown factor or the thresholds), and no, there is no ingame example

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by usrbid on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:25:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Farmer TobyInteressting fact in 2011 introduced LWRC International their own M27 IAR. Why the USMC has not chosen this weapon?

LWRC has less than 100 employees according to this. Even if they have a product which is superior (which I don't know if that is correct), they would have to go through a manufacturer with a larger fulfillment capacity and essentially obtain royalties instead of building and selling a product.

Page 98 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Also remember that you will get feedback from the field during production, as you can't fulfill such a large order in one delivery (this one stretches out over 5 years). This means that you need to be able to apply design changes while you are producing the rifles, something only the patentholder can do, making it not desirable for USMC to deal with a manufacturer who doesn't hold the patent.

By the way, I work for a company that makes 15 million every single day. I am surprised to read how cheap that USMC & HK contract is, especially because it took 3 years to decide. This really tells you how little money is available. If they would have lots, they may not be so picky?

Also, I own the REPR rifle in the 20" configuration from LWRC.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by NewAgeOfPower on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:12:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nobody has asked for a M202 FLASH?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:14:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Why ask for something that is already there?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by NewAgeOfPower on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:44:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sorry, I can't find it in game!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:23:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I double checked the XML's last night, the M202 FLASH is available from two sources in-game: Tony and Devin. Please note that Devin appears in a different randomization scheme, see UC-1.13 FAQ Spoiler's section for more details.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:23:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 99 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Ok, I gave up on the 1000 gun list and now am using a 2000 gun system. So I used a few dozen for the following:

AK & SKS bullpup kits Alternate Trigger Group AR-15's (I think I can use mergers and attachments to produce 1, 1-3, 1-A, 1-3-A trigger groups out of only a pair of copies per AR in the system) Springfield XDS (modern compact 45ACP) IWI X95 (formerly Tavor-2) in 5.45x39mm, and 9x19mm suppressed

Not adding any more guns to the v4.xx plan, but plenty of room for post v4.xx.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:28:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I present, the initial v4.xx Gun List: *** Note that some guns appear in the order they do due to relations to other weapons (ie. are based on, or a variant of a more "significant" version), also I have not bothered to remove the folded/unfolded stock copies, uppers (which I set as guns for BR organizational purposes), and place holders for special project that I have not implemented/tested yet ***

Toggle Spoiler .22 LR Revolver .22 Carbine .22 Carbine, Alt Trigger Group .22 Carbine, LE901 .22 Carbine Upper Receiver .22 Rifle .22 Rifle, Alt Trigger Group .22 Rifle, LE901 .22 Rifle Upper Receiver .38 Special 300BLK Carbine 300BLK Carbine, Alt Trigger Group 300BLK Carbine, LE901 300BLK Carbine Upper Receiver 300BLK Rifle 300BLK Rifle, Alt Trigger Group 300BLK Rifle, LE901 300BLK Rifle Upper Receiver 9A-91 9A-91 (>) A-91M AAC Multi-Purpose Weapon AAC MPW (>) AAI LSAT ACME assault rifle

Page 100 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit ACME P99 ACME pistol ACME SilentPistol ACS HEZI SM-1 ADD/Daewoo K11 AEK-906 AEK-906-01 AEK-919K "Kashtan" AEK-919K "Kashtan" () AEK-973 AEK-973 (>) Agram 2000 AI AWM AK-47 AKS-47 AKS-47 (>) AK-47, Tactical Stock AK-47, Bullpup Mod AKM AKMS AKMS (>) AKM, Tactical Stock AKM, Bullpup Mod Krinkov / AKMSU Krinkov AKMSU () AKS-74U AKS-74U (>) AKT-74U AKS-74U, Bullpup Mod AK-102 AK-102 (>) AK-102, Tactical Stock AK-102, Bullpup Mod AK-103 AK-103 (>) AK-103, Tactical Stock AK-103, Bullpup Mod AK-104 AK-104 (>) AK-104, Tactical Stock AK-104, Bullpup Mod AK-105 AK-105 (>) AK-105, Tactical Stock AK-105, Bullpup Mod AK-107 AK-107 (>) AK-107, Tactical Stock

Page 101 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit AK-107, Bullpup Mod AK-108 AK-108 (>) AK-108, Tactical Stock AK-108, Bullpup Mod AK-9 AK-9 (>) AK-9, Tactical Stock AK-9, Bullpup Mod AK-12 5.45mm AK-12 5.45mm (>) AK-12 5.45mm, Tactical Stock AK-12U 5.45mm AK-12U 5.45mm (>) AK-12U 5.45mm, Tactical Stock AK-12 7.62x39mm AK-12 7.62x39mm (>) AK-12 7.62x39mm, Tactical Stock AK-12U 7.62x39mm AK-12U 7.62x39mm (>) AK-12U 7.62x39mm, Tactical Stock AK-12 9x39mm AK-12 9x39mm (>) AK-12 9x39mm, Tactical Stock AK-12U 9x39mm AK-12U 9x39mm (>) AK-12U 9x39mm, Tactical Stock AK-12 LW AK-12 LW (>) AK-12 LW, Tactical Stock AK-12U LW AK-12U LW (>) AK-12U LW, Tactical Stock AK-12 7.62x51mm AK-12 7.62x51mm (>) AK-12 7.62x51mm, Tactical Stock AK-12U 7.62x51mm AK-12U 7.62x51mm (>) AK-12U 7.62x51mm, Tactical Stock AK-22 AK-22, Tactical Stock AK-22, Bullpup Mod AKS-22 AKS-22 (>) Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf Rifle Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf Rifle, Alt Trigger Group Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf, LE901 Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf Upper Receiver

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Page 104 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:44:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The list's looking good. Now the only gun UC1.13 still needs is RK 95.

Could you shed some light on what the new coolness scheme would be like? Weapon categories each progressing truly simultaneously (didn't you talk about this at some point), or something different?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:10:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No, I'm still planning on mixing things up to accommodate NCTH. However players shouldn't need to be worrying about facing AMR's in early game.

Revolvers/.22 pistols (early game) - Service Pistols (Mid-game) - PDW (Late game) Machine Pistols (early game) - SMG (early Mid-game) - "classic" AR (Mid-game) - "advance" AR (Late game) Rifles (early game) - DMR (Mid-game) - AMR/suppressed sniper rifles (Late-game) Shotguns (early game) - very high capacity SMG (Mid-game) - LMG (Late Game)

Calibres will be also factor in coolness. For instance .22LR, .380ACP, and 7.65x17mm will only appear in early game. .300BLK will only appear in Late-game.

AR and AK based pistols will be spread all over the place as they can fit many roles (badly).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:40:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is a posible add Para-Ordnance p16-40 ? same for walther p88 ? http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/de/walther-p-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:08:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not right now, still working on the v4.00 list I've already committed to.

Page 105 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 29 Nov 2012 21:24:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ok thx for info ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:13:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/2010/01/22/taurus-raging-judge-magnum/ tauruss judge magnum.another revolver in .454 if you are interest ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:14:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This was looked at but ultimately rejected due to an odd capacity that isn't shared with any other weapons in game (5 vs 6).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:26:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message any chance add ar 15 style rifle in 454 ? if exist ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii3aMTAkDJ4 http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/plr-16/ http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/plr-22/ keltec pistols in .22 lr & .223 .. maybe can be interesting

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:32:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/revolvers-alfa-steel-357-mag num/3530-s551600

Page 106 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/revolvers-alfa-steel-357-mag num/3540-s551720 http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/revolvers-alfa-steel-38-speci al-32-sw/ http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/revolvers-alfa-steel-22-wmr-2 2-lr/ http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/revolvers-38-special-32-sw-3 80-alfa/ some revolvers from alfa production

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:23:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Holy sh*t Wil,just went through that list,it's very extensive. However,if you're still looking for guns to add in the future,I can suggest a few interesting pieces: the Steyr M1912 and M1916,Mauser C96,Steyr GB,Beretta M1951,HK VP70,Parker Hale PDW or the Bushman IDW,Korth and maybe custom 1911's like Safari Arms Matchmaster or a piece from Strayer-Voigt,f.e. Example. Can't wait for AFS 4.0 : D

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Mon, 07 Jan 2013 09:54:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thumbs-up for customized match pistols.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 07 Jan 2013 21:08:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @El_Wrobel

Those old handguns would fit well in some museum sector. Steyers and Mausers at least.

@wil Ivan and Barry, my two ramshackle commandos, would like to request some more machine pistols. The PM-63 RAK does some amazing things on full auto right now so I fell in love with the little beasts.

Page 107 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:49:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message VEPR-308 and Saiga-12K had a baby!

The VEPR-12. I bring this up because 12 round magazines are being produced for it by now. The Saiga has a ton of magazine sizes in real life but it'd work as a substantial upgrade in-game. The folding stock is a nice touch too.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:29:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message IoV/DBB has a HK VP70, and I don't feel like reworking Xubor's HK 121 into a folded stock version. (Does anyone use the folded stock version of the HK MG43?)

Bonus: ran across a .357Sig SMG (prototype) by Sig, and as it is largely styled on the AR platform I added it to the v4.xx list a few weeks ago. The compact version with its stock folded will handle like a MP (looks like it is MP5K size). This will even out the transition from pistol cal MP's to PDW's.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:06:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Slax So should be BAR,M1919 and a few other weapons from that list,including the Rak you mentioned : D @Wil Too bad about VP 70,the SIG proto sounds cool though. You might consider B+T TMP-46,Colt MARS,Gepard and the gun designed by Martin Tuma,can't remeber it's name :

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:20:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_Wrobel@Wil Too bad about VP 70,

Actually I meant that I will be importing the VP70 graphics from IOV/DBB, and using the item index I had previously reserved for a folded stock HK 121.

I am nearly finished with adding items to the initial v4.xx. The VP70 was to save time and make use of an already allocated item index. Going forward all items will have to wait till after v4.00 (all

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:46:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/21864 rocket launcher for single use ... edit: this text need translator ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:13:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

ak & ar 15 build by customer for 7.62x25 tokarev ammo

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:37:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473El_Wrobel@Wil Too bad about VP 70,

Actually I meant that I will be importing the VP70 graphics from IOV/DBB, and using the item index I had previously reserved for a folded stock HK 121.

I am nearly finished with adding items to the initial v4.xx. The VP70 was to save time and make use of an already allocated item index. Going forward all items will have to wait till after v4.00 (all three mods).

Sorry,didn't get it the first time,wonderful mate : D BTW,any ETA on the release date?

Page 109 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:13:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @wolf00 - You can get any gun in any caliber if you ask the right gunsmith. Seems superfluous.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:28:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_WrobelSorry,didn't get it the first time,wonderful mate : D BTW,any ETA on the release date?

I hope to get the common item set done in a week or two. I just finished graphics for the wider selection of 12.3x50mmR rounds (and also replacing the western ammo manufacturer's box with a Russian one).

Highlights: VP70 & APS Holsters - now can be directly attached (earlier APS stock had to transformed into a stock item first)

Taser X3 - works as both standalone and as an underbarrel weapon.

M41 Prop - will be featured in Gumpy's high end gearkit

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Tobias on Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:47:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hello Wilson, what about the brandnew SIG SAUER submachine gun, called the SIG MPX?

The SIG MPX is the only submachine gun that allows the operator to change barrel length, caliber and stock configuration in the field to meet mission requirements.

SIG MPX-SD (with Sound supressor) Caliber: 9mm NATO, Converts to .357SIG or .40S&W

SIG MPX Caliber: 9mm NATO, Converts to .357SIG or .40S&W

A caliber/barrel kit would be great!

Page 110 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 20 Jan 2013 03:19:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Farmer TobyHello Wilson, what about the brandnew SIG SAUER submachine gun, called the SIG MPX?

The SIG MPX is the only submachine gun that allows the operator to change barrel length, caliber and stock configuration in the field to meet mission requirements.

SIG MPX-SD (with Sound supressor) Caliber: 9mm NATO, Converts to .357SIG or .40S&W

SIG MPX Caliber: 9mm NATO, Converts to .357SIG or .40S&W

A caliber/barrel kit would be great!

Ah, I started adding it before the 2013 SHOT show (where it was announced to the world) and hence included it as the SIG SMG. Guess I better rename it. v4.xx will only have it in .357SIG in plain, K and SD variants. I'm working on finishing off odds and ends for the initial v4.xx item set tomorrow so adding a conversion kit shouldn't be a problem.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:07:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message here is some ugly thingy ...

http://deuce45s.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=176 10mm auto tracer

http://deuce45s.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=52_44&products_id=253 .40 s&w tracer

http://deuce45s.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=52_54&products_id=239 .380 auto/acp some fresh for scorpio vz 61 ...

Page 111 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:57:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is posible add ar15 asult rifle or clone in .22 wmr if exist ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:31:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This here seems like it would fit right in with AFS/UC.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by graywolf364 on Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:30:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxThis here seems like it would fit right in with AFS/UC.

It was my hope that it would be incorporated with AFS/UC, because of the AR15 upper receiver system. I just wish that Adcor would make a 6.8 variant.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:11:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Beyond the pretty picture what's so special (and can be defined in-game) for this piston AR?

We've already got the HK 416 covering 5.56x45mm and .300BLK, LWRC covering 5.45x39mm (as well as its own odd auto rifle mechanism in 5.56 and 6.. Plenty of time to elaborate/build a case as I will not be adding any additional items until I get all three v4.xx mods out.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by graywolf364 on Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:10:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I was also kinda curious about what separates it from a HK416 as they are both in the Individual Carbine Competition, have very good quality free-floating barrels, and are piston driven.

The B.E.A.R Elite has a very cool 'Forward placed, reversible/ambidextrous charging handle' in addition to the standard charging handle. Ideally, this makes for faster and more streamlined reloads. Theoretically between the FN made M249 style barrel, dust wiper, and the supposed elimination of carrier tilt, it should make for a much more reliable rifle then most AR15 derivatives.

Page 112 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit From what I have heard, they work a lot better with suppressors then most SBRs, the location of piston makes for better weight distribution (more control), and good performance when blowing through mags. They also appear to run slightly cheaper then the HKs.

I was thinking that the fully-automatic 10.5 barrel variant what be the best fit, being a controllable, reliable, and accurate SBR with fast reloads.

I apologize for any spelling, typographical errors or if anything is unclear. As I am severely dyslexic when it comes to writing. It's not really working well with my new year's resolution of not being a lurker.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:39:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mm, faster reloads at least with the ambidextrous forward charging handle. No need to lower the gun. Free floating barrel should also make auto fire more controllable. Smart dust cover keeps it cleaner too. Comes with speedy (in case sight switching AP costs ever come into play) Magpul flipup-sights. Repairs could be a bit trickier to balance the thing. It does seem to have more parts so it does make sense.

Now, I don't know how much of this is new and/or improved over say a 416 but... you know, it sounds real neat.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:51:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Something for the ol' face.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:58:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Slax Nice one.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:15:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 113 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/612HomeDefense/ http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/550-UCS/ http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-magnum-het/ some fresh from C.R

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Panzerdraco on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:52:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Lockbuster shells for .410 bore?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:55:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxSomething for the ol' face. This. Ballistic masks/faceshields in general would be a logical addition to the existing armor selection, IMHO.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:32:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxSomething for the ol' face.

Helmet version of ceramic plate? That increases coverage (I think that can be done)?

When producing the initial .410 bore ammo types I did consider lock busting, but could not find any mass produced examples. It seems that breeching rounds are only available in 12 gauge.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:53:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473 Helmet version of ceramic plate? That increases coverage (I think that can be done)?

Page 114 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I'd personally really love to see that.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Headhunter on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:44:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/mcmillan_cs5-e.html

Something along the lines of the SL9SD or the VSSK but in 7.62x51.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:35:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Headhunterhttp://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/mcmillan_cs5-e.html

Something along the lines of the SL9SD or the VSSK but in 7.62x51.

This is the ugliest gun i've ever seen. No comment on its usefulness though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:38:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message c7/c8 upper reciver[for .300 blk if exist] c10 training rifle pls...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:21:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message here on link is cz vz 27,fit nice in third world country,like arulco,it is in caliber .32 http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-27-p27-t-e.html http://world.guns.ru/smg/chex/submachine-gun-cz-vz-3-e.html high capacity old timer smg caliber .380

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by lockie on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:27:17 GMT

Page 115 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Are there any guns in the world left that you want in the game ?

:crazy:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:56:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd rather ask if some kind of firearm exists that wolf does not want to see in the game.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:02:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message yes these two guns is ugly like hell for caliber existing in afs mod, at least smg vz is interesting magazine capacity 36 or 96 rounds ... cz vz 27 is normal looking avegare military pistol ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:20:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message maybe this can be usefull http://www.waltherarms.com/products/tactical-rimfire-replicas/uzi-pistol/ http://www.waltherarms.com/products/tactical-rimfire-replicas/uzi-rifle/ http://www.waltherarms.com/products/handguns/ppks-22/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by buuface on Wed, 01 May 2013 11:48:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Argh too many .22 caliber guns already imo

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by eNVee on Mon, 06 May 2013 15:31:18 GMT

Page 116 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Perhaps Cobb MCR-300 could be added? Sure, it's railed AR-15 derivative, but there is no examples of them in .30-06 and 7.92x57mm, isn't there?

Another rifle can be VHS-2 , since being bullpup with adjustable stock does make it somewhat unique.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Mon, 06 May 2013 16:10:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ^^i wouldn't mind a couple of AR-15 derivatives using exotic ammo.

@buuface, completely agree

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 12 May 2013 18:29:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:here is something to taste http://www.proarms-armory.com/en/parmk3/index.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:01:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473SlaxSomething for the ol' face.

Helmet version of ceramic plate? That increases coverage (I think that can be done)?

I've harvested a few graphics from IoV, and have run into a major problem with Helmet/face armour addon's as a concept - these attachments should, but cannot be incompatible with certain face items. Short of someone adding a feature where armour values can be read from the face slots (to be applied to the head), best I can come up with are attachments that add modest improvements to the helmet.

Additionally, the helmets seem to have too much coverage to begin with. I'm thinking of dropping

Page 117 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit their coverage, while increasing their protective value a tad (helmets being relatively small and inflexible items should be stronger than soft body armour).

Also adding: - STG-76/45/34k (in 9x19mm, .45ACP and 7.62x25mm, various stock options) - Shooters Arms SAS-12 pump action shotgun (that can use some AR accessories) - STK Ultimax 100Mk5

Considering: - VHS2

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:51:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Reading armor values from the face slots would be unhelpful, as then one could wear the mask along with an unfitting helmet (I don't think this stuff would be compatible with WW2 steel helmets). So it seems to me you want the face incompatibility functions to take into account helmet attachments (and possible helmets themselves). Correct?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:21:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message FlugenteSo it seems to me you want the face incompatibility functions to take into account helmet attachments (and possible helmets themselves). Correct? Yes, that is the effect I am wanting.

Guess this means I should get all the graphics from IoV ready. As far as v1.13 is concerned, this will stop the EOD helmet from working with any face items (as it should be for realism and/or balance).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:06:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473 Considering: - VHS2

I strongly support that, we need more Bullpups! (at least I do )

Page 118 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:38:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Had a look at the face items code, and wether it can be fitted to work with helmets and helmet attachments.

There is major flaw: The way I had it in mind, we would simply add helmets and their attachments to the CompatibleFaceItems.xml, and expand the code to take in helmets and helmet attachments. However, that would make the much used and reasonable concept of storing sunglasses/NVGs on helmets infeasible, for obvious reasons...

Either store face items on helmets, or have incompatibility expanded to helmets, we can't have both (unless I make the xml unreasonably more complicated, which I'd hate).

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:46:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Add a tag to attachment slot definitions?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 18:58:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That would not help. If we define the helmet slot to be storage, then all helmets are storage, so nothing would be incompatible.

The problem is that a NVG 1 in faceslot 1 should compatible to NVG 2 as a helmet attachment, but not to a armourmask attached to the same helmet. We could achieve that by having NVG 1 and NVG 2 being compatible... but then you could wear them at the same time, getting superior boni.

Edit: ah, to attachment slots... :puke: nah, the attachment system is already way too complicated.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:26:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message FlugenteHad a look at the face items code, and wether it can be fitted to work with helmets and helmet attachments.

There is major flaw: The way I had it in mind, we would simply add helmets and their attachments

Page 119 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit to the CompatibleFaceItems.xml, and expand the code to take in helmets and helmet attachments. However, that would make the much used and reasonable concept of storing sunglasses/NVGs on helmets infeasible, for obvious reasons...

Either store face items on helmets, or have incompatibility expanded to helmets, we can't have both (unless I make the xml unreasonably more complicated, which I'd hate).

There would be a lot of anger if we did something to helmet storage... even it is optional.

Can we add a tag/flag for non-face items to be considered for incompatibility with face items when they are attached to the helmet. Attachment without this tag, such as face items, simply will not be checked for incompatibility.

EDIT: actually, can we have this tag used for any time an attached (in-use) attachment may come into conflict with a face item... perhaps we can stop people from stacking NVG and NV scope bonuses. Try shouldering a weapon with a NV scope and the player will be told to remove the NVG.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:18:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message foudn something from izmach factory ... http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/medved.shtml

.308 civilian rifle http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/tigr.shtml civilian dragunov variant[.308/7.62x54r/9.3x64]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 30 Jun 2013 01:15:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hm. We don't have a full size Saiga-12, do we?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 30 Jun 2013 01:41:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxHm. We don't have a full size Saiga-12, do we? Nope, but the Vepr-12 in v4.47 will be full size.

Page 120 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:02:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Greetings :wave:

There are a ton of handguns, SMGs, assault rifles. What i feel missing are more rifles, battle and sniper rifles. Speaking of... hopefully i got the term "battle rifle" right. I'll post a list of requests, but that doesn't mean i "want" to see "all" of them. If you chose 2 battle and 2 sniper rifles and maybe 1 of the covert ops rifles this would be glorious already :cheerleader:

sorry, didn't mean to put any pressure

One note: when speaking of "tactical" rifles, i'm actually meaning "upper and maybe lower RIS mounting for almost all attachment wishes a merc could possibly ever have". Tactical is much shorter

Calibers. I shorten them for convenience sake: .50 = .50 BMG / 12,7*99 .308 = .308 Winchester / 7.62*51 762 Rus = 7.62*54 Rimmed 762 WP = 7.62*39 .300 WM = .300 Winchester Magazine .223 = .223 Remington / 5.56*45 .338 = .338 Lapua multi caliber = weapon has a selection of at least 4 calibers

Battle Rifles

- HK G28 tactical rifle, sleek design, even "fully" equipped a reasonable weight, .308 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/de/hk-g2-sniper-rifle-e.html

- Desert Tactical Arms-Stealth Recon Scout a wet dream: tactical, bullpup design, multi caliber and supports quick change of barrels (for heating and caliber purposes ? ) http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/dt-srs-e.html

- SIG 550 sniper sufficient accesories, quick firing/follow up shots, a bit heavy though, .223 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/switch/sig-sg550-sniper-e.html

- SIG 556 light weight, tactical variant of the SIG 550, .223 http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/sig-556-e.html

Page 121 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit - LWRC REPR (rapid engagement precision rifle... jeez, the military and its abbreviations) basically a HK G28 clone regarding its capabilities, .308 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/lwrc_repr-e.html

- Remington R11 RSASS rifle a tactical AR-10 derivative in sleek design, fixed stock, .308 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/rsass-e.html

- Noreen "Bad news" sniper rifle tactical, black colored, fluffy battle rifle in .338 and .300 WM calibers, also has fixed stock, simply "bad news for the bad guys" http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/noreen-e.html

Rifles

- DRD Paratus modular rifle short length, light weight, quick disassembly, tactical... what more could a Covert Ops operative need to cross enemy lines ? ah, .308 caliber of course http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/paratus-e.html

- Armalite AR-7 extreme light weight, quick disassembly Covert Ops weapon (for early game maybe), caliber .22LR http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/armalite-ar-7-e.html

- MAGPUL / Bushmaster ACR (Adaptive Combat Rifle) tactical, light weight, sleek design, "civilian" rifle, available in .223, 762 WP and 6.8 SPC calibers additional caliber info of this weapon from wiki http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/magpul-masada-acr-e.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmaster_ACR

- Saiga self-loading rifle sufficient accesories, light weight, multi caliber rifle (well, a shot gun it seems ) http://world.guns.ru/civil/rus/saiga-e.html

Sniper Rifles

- DSR 50 sniper rifle upgraded/modified DSR 1, can mount "blast compensator" (sound suppressor), .50 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/de/dsr-50-e.html

- Remington MSR (Modular Sniper Rifle) tactical, reasonable weight, multi caliber http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/remington-msr-e.html

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- OTs-48K sniper rifle a Mosin Nagant... as bullpup http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/ots48-e.html

- Zbroyar Z-008 Tactical rifle high accuracy, has a variant with upper RIS, multi caliber rifle from the Ukraine http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/ua/zbroyar-z-00-e.html

- Barrett 98 Bravo tactical, reasonable weight, "small" caliber weapon from the famous "BFG" manufaction, .338 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/usa/barrett-9b-e.html

- Keppeler KS-V sniper rifle tactical, bullpup, unusal magazine and bolt placement (for quicker firing and magazine reload), available in .308, .300 WM and .338 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/de/keppeler-ks-v-e.html

- ORSIS T-5000 precision sniper rifle tactical, sleek design, russian made for nato calibers .308 and .338 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/sniper-rifles-orsis-t-5000-e.html

- Bora JNG-90 sniper rifle high accuracy, floating barrel, full adjustable butt, tactical sr from Turkey, .308 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/tr/mkek-jng-90-bora-e.html

- QBU-10 sniper rifle chinese bullpup design, caliber 12.7*108 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/ch/qbu-10-e.html

- Barrett Model M99 upgraded, light weight variant of the M82, .50 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/usa/barrett-m99-e.html

- Serbu BFG-50A sniper rifle tactical, semi-auto, light weight, wait... what ? its name is BFG , .50 http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/usa/serbubfg-50a-e.html

- Micor Defense MD 50 tactical, bullpup, extreme light-weight .50 "allows accurate" shooting while standing http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/usa/md_50-e.html

- SIG 50 sniper high accuracy, tactical, "light" weight .50

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- Unique Alpine TPG-1 high accuracy, tactical, multi caliber http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/at/unique-alpine-tpg-1-e.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPG-1 Some info on the weapon are missing, sadly. The wiki entry also doesn't make them clear, though it has a link to the manufacturers page, that site is in German though: http://www.cbs-mode.eu/UniqueAlpine/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid= 32

Others

- HK M27 IAR (infantry automatic weapon) tactical, light weight SAW, .223 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M27_IAR

- Dragunov SVU-A this is actually not a "new item" request, at least not by all means. There is a variant of the SVU that comes with single AND burst AND auto fire Selective fire i guess. Absolutely crazy. Basically, could you make an merger, that when the trigger group gets added to a SVU it becomes a SVU-A please ? http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/svu-and-svu-a-e.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragunov_SVU

[edit] Just realized that i left out several weapons, so not all calibers stated on top are "used".

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by lockie on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:49:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The mod is based on street fighting , basements , stations , not really much call for long range weapons ? Other mods do this .

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:54:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Long range is one part of the sniper rifles, damage another. I tried to find "light weight" versions of long range/large caliber weapons, that could prove useful for a mercenary organisation in terms of

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[edit] Sorry, i think now i get you: my requests were targeted towards AFS which allows for some long range fighting. That and the part about damage.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:35:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No problem guys because AFS/DL/UC has most of these guns.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:05:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i spyed the wrong xmls

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:13:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message GambigobillaNo problem guys because AFS/DL/UC has most of these guns. Mausi i spyed the wrong xmls

Yes, I was wondering why such a large fraction of the weapons you wanted were already in-game...

I'll get around to updating the list on page one of this thread soon. Probably this weekend when I revamp all the FAQ's so that common/non-spoiler info will be separated out into a common weapons & items FAQ. For now, I am taking a break from modding.

EDIT: also see page 6 of this thread for why the M27 will not show up as a standalone weapon in my projects again. As of v4.47 I have implemented the discussed barrel attachment that gives the 16" 5.56mm HK416 M27 like heat/overheating behaviour in-game.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:53:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is a posible add m1-a springfield or variant ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A_rifle

Page 125 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit t65 ar look like average ar15 clone at first look,but this gun have gas system based on ar18 system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T65_assault_rifle http://world.guns.ru/assault/taiw/t65-t6-t91-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:26:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473GambigobillaNo problem guys because AFS/DL/UC has most of these guns. Mausi i spyed the wrong xmls

Yes, I was wondering why such a large fraction of the weapons you wanted were already in-game...

I'll get around to updating the list on page one of this thread soon. Probably this weekend when I revamp all the FAQ's so that common/non-spoiler info will be separated out into a common weapons & items FAQ. For now, I am taking a break from modding.

EDIT: also see page 6 of this thread for why the M27 will not show up as a standalone weapon in my projects again. As of v4.47 I have implemented the discussed barrel attachment that gives the 16" 5.56mm HK416 M27 like heat/overheating behaviour in-game.

I'm sorry for the confusion - the last few days were a bit stressy.

Thanks a lot for all your efforts on this mod :cheerleader:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:30:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about adding AK-74M?

AK-74 and AKS-74 is already in the game.but AK-74M isn't exist. can anyone add AK-74M? http://rostechnologiesblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ak-74m00.jpg

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:43:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:02:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00please it is a posible add m1-a springfield or variant ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1A_rifle t65 ar look like average ar15 clone at first look,but this gun have gas system based on ar18 system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T65_assault_rifle http://world.guns.ru/assault/taiw/t65-t6-t91-e.html

Like the AK-74M, there are no practical(meaning stuff than can be portrayed in-game) differences between the M1A Springfield and existing guns.

Same applies to the T65 though enough of them seem to exist in South America that it may be worth reconsidering at a later date.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Parkan on Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:58:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473

Your Mods (UC,AFS,DL) have already a very huge variation of weapons for ja2 1.13 mod.It is too bad that only 15-20 percent of all weapons in game can be obtained from enemy,other 80-85 percent of weapons can be obtained from buy from BR or rarely obtained on maps.I am having two proposals: 1.Don't add new weapons to mods(UC,AFS,DL),it is already have HUGE(REALLY) variatons of weapons. 2.Maybe increase enemy gun choices,so enemy soldiers all time will have really random weapons not only 1-30 type of guns.(fill every progress of item choices of enemy to full-every 50 slots of game progress)

Thank you for listening =)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 04:42:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 127 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit but I really want AK-74M in AFS mod. please. I got tired of AK-74

I want AK-74M! Please!..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:47:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message *squints eyes* Can't tell if trolling...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:06:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ParkanYour Mods (UC,AFS,DL) have already a very huge variation of weapons for ja2 1.13 mod.It is too bad that only 15-20 percent of all weapons in game can be obtained from enemy,other 80-85 percent of weapons can be obtained from buy from BR or rarely obtained on maps.I am having two proposals: 1.Don't add new weapons to mods(UC,AFS,DL),it is already have HUGE(REALLY) variatons of weapons. 2.Maybe increase enemy gun choices,so enemy soldiers all time will have really random weapons not only 1-30 type of guns.(fill every progress of item choices of enemy to full-every 50 slots of game progress)

Thank you for listening =)

When work restarts on AFS/DL-1.13/UC-1.13 I will be restoring the vendor specific sub-mods in AFS. Right now AFS is operating on a v1.13 like system where most guns are in use. The only exception being most of the new ones.

I'm not expecting to produce anything major, aside from revamping the documentation, till September at the earliest. Enjoy the mod as it is folks!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:14:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hidasfbut I really want AK-74M in AFS mod. please. I got tired of AK-74

Page 128 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I want AK-74M! Please!.. 1. Open Items.xml, search for AK-74 2. Rename AK-74 to Ak-74M 3. ??? 4. :cheerleader: Extreme Profit! :cheerleader:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:05:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This thing seems kinda neat. http://www.fnherstal.com/primary-menu/products-capabilities/fire-control-systems/general/product/ 266/298/266/8/_/fn-fcutm-850n.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 29 Jul 2013 20:22:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .410gauge triple slug .. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/20rds-410ga-cd.aspx?a=1154048

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sat, 03 Aug 2013 19:38:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Greetings :wave:

I am not sure how realistic this is: Could you please add either a Kit/Item to repaint Ghillie Suits or different versions of the Ghillie Suit to adapt to different terrains ? Or maybe there exist some type of "suit" for different environments in reality - i'm not sure where i would find this info on search machines. At the moment, there is only Woodland available, enhencing this part of the game would be glorious

An example would be: dry grass/jute/branches could be used to simulate desert camo (maybe not as effective/high camo values than the woodland/green one).

Regarding Camo Kits themselves: I feel confused why they do add up to 100% camo, as they basically only paint hands (and arms possibly), face and neck. I don't know how the system works, but if possible, could you please cap the value much lower ?

Hm. But maybe those 2 requests are much more work than benefit :idea2:

Page 129 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by lockie on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 09:30:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:Hm. But maybe those 2 requests are much more work than benefit

Probably ! Use your imagination a little more

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 09:55:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message MausiCould you please add either a Kit/Item to repaint Ghillie Suits or different versions of the Ghillie Suit to adapt to different terrains ? Or maybe there exist some type of "suit" for different environments in reality - i'm not sure where i would find this info on search machines. At the moment, there is only Woodland available, enhencing this part of the game would be glorious

An example would be: dry grass/jute/branches could be used to simulate desert camo (maybe not as effective/high camo values than the woodland/green one).1. Open Items.xml, copy Ghillie items. 2. On new items, replace 20 with 20 etc. 3. ??? 4. :smilingsoldier:

If you want these things to be created from woodland ghillies, you could simply add transformations: woodland ghillie + desert camo = desert ghillie etc.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:08:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I've been thinking i would be great if those weapons in AFS Mod.

Smith & Wesson M629 Performance Center http://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/SMITH-WESSON-629-Stealth-Hunter.jpg

AK-74M http://z.enha.kr/pds/2/2d/AK_2d74/ak04.jpg Unlike AK-74 , AK-74M has Folding Stock

AN-94 Folded in ja2 AFS mod AN-94 'Abakan' doesn't have Folding stock.

M68 Aimpoint Red dot sight

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and serveral kevelar vest in Aimnas. i've looked AIMNAS. Wow. So many guns, items.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:44:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message these are only foto images,please post some data for this gun's ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by lockie on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:53:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:If you want these things to be created from woodland ghillies, you could simply add transformations: woodland ghillie + desert camo = desert ghillie etc.

I think what they really want is someone else to do the work ....ie , you ... :/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 11:58:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think you mean wil here

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 12:17:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message lockieQuote:If you want these things to be created from woodland ghillies, you could simply add transformations: woodland ghillie + desert camo = desert ghillie etc.

I think what they really want is someone else to do the work ....ie , you ... :/ MausiI am not sure how realistic this is .. i'm not sure where i would find this info on search machines.

Please think again

Page 131 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:27:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message like what? give me some examples.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Gambigobilla on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 14:34:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No AK-74M for you!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:48:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hidasflike what? give me some examples. Rate of fire, caliber, weight, internals (bolt and gas operation), effective range of fire, magazine size, accuracy/MOA, etc.

Flugente1. Open Items.xml, copy Ghillie items. 2. On new items, replace 20 with 20 etc. 3. ??? 4. :smilingsoldier:

If you want these things to be created from woodland ghillies, you could simply add transformations: woodland ghillie + desert camo = desert ghillie etc. I feel something is missing: Copied the Ghillie items, changed Camo to DesertCamo. Messed with uiIndex (first unchanged, then increased to "last count+1" ) coolness (lowered/raised) new games started... but the modiefied Ghillie's don't appear ingame. Is there an additional change needed ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:51:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message What do you mean, appear? BR? Enemies? Enemies need them in their item xmls, BR needs entries on the items, and has to refresh (~1 day).

Page 132 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:59:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sorry, Bobby Rays was meant. Which entries - in the items.xml or elsewhere ?

[edit] now that i think of it: what changes would be needed so that enemies chose the new Ghillies on desert maps - or is it a general choice which the AI does ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:05:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Items.xml - and .

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:08:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There isn't much to post about his selection. #1 is the same as the M29 already in game, maybe trade ready for shooting AP due to the heavier barrel. #2 is the same as the AK-74 already in game, except for black furniture and a scope bracket (dunno if wil gave one to the original) It's also been declined by him, repeating your request is just rude to the modmaker. You aren't even arguing, you are just repeating. #3 is an expensive club, I advise using a simple piece of wood for better cost efficiency (the AN can't fire from folded) #4 is a reflex sight. How many of those can you have without them all being re-skins?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:08:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message *confusion* these are not set for the original Ghillie's, yet those still appear on BRs.

I guess NewInv. and UsedInv. need to be set to 1 ?

Thanks a lot for your help

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Flugente on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:14:34 GMT

Page 133 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The numbers are the maximum number that can show up at the website. 1 might be a bit low

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:49:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message jesus. That mean I make myself.

Since I understand how to make sti file. but AK-100 seies is exist, why AK-74M doesnt? i can't understand it.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 17:23:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Easy: All major mods build on the items that were in 1.13 when they branched off. 1.13 had a phase when the old vanilla item limit had just been removed. In that phase pretty much any gun someone could find got included. Now the modders apply stricter standards for inclusion but don't bother to purge the existing set.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:06:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I hope wil is okay with this

Thank you very much Flugente :cheerleader:

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:33:25 GMT

Page 134 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message and. um,,, Since Zastava M series AR is added. so

Zastava M85 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/Zastava_M85.png cartridge: 5.56 x 45mm weight: 3.5kg Length: 800mm with folding stock / 540mm without folding stock and

Zastava M92 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/M92.jpg cartridge: 7.62x39mm Weight : 3.57 kg Length: 795 mm stock extracted / 550 mm stock folded Rate of fire: 620 rounds per minute can you add this in AFS?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 04 Aug 2013 19:15:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message these are clones from akmsu compact asault rifle ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:27:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message but.. the design and made company is different.

Than what about Zastava M70B1,B2? that is AK clone Rifle

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by pheloncab on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 06:33:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hidasfbut.. the design and made company is different.

Page 135 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Than what about Zastava M70B1,B2? that is AK clone Rifle

Thats the point.. they are CLONES, which we already have huge numbers of.

If there are specific clones you want, then you should add them to your personal game. if you make a clone and you want it in a mod, then you should copy all the information after you have made and tested it and mail it to the mod owner for consideration. repeatedly asking for more clones of items generally just gets on a mod makers nerves, which most of us try not to have happen because we want them to continue to produce the quality and fun mods that we get for free.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by eNVee on Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:00:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Breaking the subject that's been going here for some time, how about adding Valmet KvKK62? (Right side view) I'm pretty sure that this belt-fed machinegun in 7.62x39 is not a clone of something already in the mod.

Also, more weapons in 9.3x64 would be nice, although I don't know any specific models (beyond Tigr-9, but that one would be just a clone of SVDK) to suggest. >_>

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by iklop on Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:39:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Greetings :wave:

*scary* 2 days ago i was also looking for rarely used ingame calibers like .458 SOCOM and 9.3*64. Hard to find - or the search machines don't like me.

In 9.3*64, the Tigr 9 was also for me the only weapon about which i could find reliable info. Another would be the Winchester Model 70, according to this: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-Model-Pre-x-MM/1508563.uts However, the wiki doesn't state the 9.3 caliber :whoknows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_70

This thread states the Saiga 9 model, yet i couldn't find info on a 9.3*64 version (the provided link leads to a website that's not longer active): http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-26572.html

Page 136 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit As opposed to the link above the Saiga 9 actually uses the 9*53 R: http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/saiga.shtml

I guess the 9.3*64 cartridge is rarely used in reality when it comes to military production/serial models. It's mostly hunters who use the 9.3 - either building their gun by themselves or respectively ask the gunsmith to do so (according to the wiki the Mauser M 98, if modified, can fire the 9.3 round) or made a special order at a gunsmith for building one of their models around this cartridge (forgot the names but i saw some German and Russian gunsmiths during my search which offered their weapons in "many different calibers if ordered/specified" ).

For the .458 SOCOM it's even less info i could find - actually only the Wilson Combat Rifle, which already is ingame.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Headhunter on Wed, 07 Aug 2013 22:50:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hidasfAK-74M http://z.enha.kr/pds/2/2d/AK_2d74/ak04.jpg Unlike AK-74 , AK-74M has Folding Stock

Dude, just change the name of the AKS-74 and use the AK-107 picture. It takes less than 5 minutes in the XML editor.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by hrqa on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 00:56:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AK-107 is so much different. anyway I already make AK-74M in sti file. and .357 Magnum variants too.like colt python 6"

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by fallschirmjager on Fri, 23 Aug 2013 02:58:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message EDIT: My bad, it's already in there.

Page 137 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:34:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Stocks! For weight management, I'd imagine.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:28:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxStocks! For weight management, I'd imagine. Before I consider this the AR base weights need to be sorted out. Does someone mind going through all the AR's and comparing their empty weight to reasonable real world values? ie: if real M4 = X hg, in-game M4 = Y hg, and default stock for M4 = Z hg correct for Y so that Y + Z = X

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by pheloncab on Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:51:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I make no promises on speed, But i'll volunteer to look into it and see what I can find.

Edit 1: Set up sheet as google Doc so if I am too slow at least what work I've done can be used. i;ve been using world.guns.ru for many of the weapons, and manufacturer websites for the others.

Spreadsheet view, comments allowed

Stock listings are none, Wire (retracted or folded, with or without buttpad), Composite folded, Fixed, Retractable. I tended to go via weight more than anything since it looks like for many of these we will be guessing the original stock weights.

Weights are also empty weight, with notes on integral items if listed.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Mon, 26 Aug 2013 05:18:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 138 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Hmm,an idea just hit me,dunno if it's original or not. Either way,how about light/heavy bolts/slides s an attachment for most weapons? IMO it could be a universal mod,as in one fits all,I don't think there's any point to making individual items for different weapons.

Anyways,what do you think? And is this even doable?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:15:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Valmet M78, anyone? Looks like fun.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 28 Aug 2013 23:23:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message pheloncabI make no promises on speed, But i'll volunteer to look into it and see what I can find.

Edit 1: Set up sheet as google Doc so if I am too slow at least what work I've done can be used. i;ve been using world.guns.ru for many of the weapons, and manufacturer websites for the others.

Spreadsheet view, comments allowed

Stock listings are none, Wire (retracted or folded, with or without buttpad), Composite folded, Fixed, Retractable. I tended to go via weight more than anything since it looks like for many of these we will be guessing the original stock weights.

Weights are also empty weight, with notes on integral items if listed.

Thanks, right now, only the weapons with modular (tactical) stocks need to have their weights checked. In game there are only three modular stocks that need to be accounted for:

AR-15 Fixed Stock = 6 hg AR-15 Telescopic Stock = 6 hg AR-15 Precision Stock = 8 hg

So if a real M16 = X hg, and in-game M16 = Y hg, then Y = X - 6

With the exception of the few guns that come with the Precision stock default, the in-game weights must be 6 hg less than real world weights.

Page 139 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit AK, SIG's, and G36's currently have a stock modification, so their weights should be checked as well... except should these be standardized as being a certain mass less than their unmodified forms. Is there a standard weight for an AK-47 stock that we should account for?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by deknegt on Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:04:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A few more LBE add-on ideas I got.

I am not sure, but I think there are no bandoliers in the game right now, and the way they work they would be the perfect attachable piece of LBE.

Naturally when you think about those, you think about Clint Eastwood movies where our hero shoots 200 bullets at a time and never even thinks about using those bullets on his bandolier to reload... But I digress.

There are modern day variants of the bandolier in use by some police forces and some military forces. (Think about a bandoleer for individual shotgun shells, or that badass grenade bandolier Arnie used in T3.

Anyways, bandoleers are still used all around the world, and having your mercs be able to sling a bandoleer across their body is a good way to carry around those shotgun shells or those sniper bullets for guns that don't use clips. And even for guns with mags, there are bandoleers for that too!

And well, it ramps the badassness up to 11 too! That should be reason enough to add it!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by pheloncab on Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:10:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

@Wil I know I'm filling in more than you asked for, I figured it would be helpful to someone modding at some point since I was having to hit the websites anyways.

I noticed most the newer firearms are pretty accurate ~.5kg which seems to be about the difference between websites, though a few were WAY off, so hopefully it all works out.

Also since your mod allows many weapons to go to a tactical version I figured why not gather data since you might change or add more weapons that have this option. and yeah I am hoping once I have most the base data to poke around and see if I can find something better on stock weights, probably hit Magpul for precision stocks, and maybe a few to see the difference between say

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Tue, 10 Sep 2013 03:50:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd like to see pistol stocks(maybe even a fixed and folding variant),could be a universal item,attachable to most pistols. And I don't mean the pistol2carbine,I mean these nasty bastards . I'm not sure if it won't be too much effort though

Edit: I don't know why the hyperlink won't work,so here http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GLR-17-FAB-Tactical-Stock-for-GLOCK-Jericho-941-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/ $T2eC16F,!yUE9s6NEHTsBQsKE6nziQ~~60_35.JPG

Also,an FMG-9 type weapon would be nice for our covert operatives

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:06:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_WrobelI'd like to see pistol stocks(maybe even a fixed and folding variant),could be a universal item,attachable to most pistols. And I don't mean the pistol2carbine,I mean these nasty bastards . I'm not sure if it won't be too much effort though

Edit: I don't know why the hyperlink won't work,so here http://i.ebayimg.com/t/GLR-17-FAB-Tactical-Stock-for-GLOCK-Jericho-941-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/ $T2eC16F,!yUE9s6NEHTsBQsKE6nziQ~~60_35.JPG

Also,an FMG-9 type weapon would be nice for our covert operatives

Hmm, I personally don't see in how far Pistol-Stocks would be a real change to the pistol2carbine gamewise, apart from being inferior? I mean "p2c" is a pretty low coolness item and getting one is no problem, why would you chose an "inferior product" at the same (low) level?!?

ON the other part: Yes, I agree at least one "weapon out of the box" for each "type" (pistol, smg etc) would be nice for CovertOps guys (even just for the novelty/choice, here, It seems with the DRD Paratus there is one for sniper rifles)

Something else: I don't know if it's intended or a bug or whatever, but the Commando-LMG vest is

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:02:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Those stocks shouldn't increase size,thus you could holster your weapon without deattaching the stock.

BTW,it's rather easy,I just made one for myself via XML editor,but I agree,it's a very low priority item (if any at all)

As for the cover,easily disassembling weapons,there's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite.

What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:06:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AR-7 Survival Rifle?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Faalagorn on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:06:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_Wrobelthere's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite. As a sidenote - there's a random chance that the IMP you create might get this, I think it's dependent on the "sniper" trait.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:19:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotAR-7 Survival Rifle? Pretty sure that's already in.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 142 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:20:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, it's on the list. It was in response to El WrobelAs for the cover,easily disassembling weapons,there's one more,a .22LR rifle,but I can't remember it's name,I think it's Armalite.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:25:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 10 points,that's the one

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:26:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ah, alright.

Anyway, SR-15, SR-25 and SR-30 with goodies.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:18:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SR-25 is already in IIRC. I don't think any more guns is needed right now,more LBE,attachments and maybe a rebalance of the current gunz would be more beneficial. Just putting my thoughts,I know this is a weapons and items requests thread

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:12:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_WrobelSR-25 is already in IIRC. I don't think any more guns is needed right now,more LBE,attachments and maybe a rebalance of the current gunz would be more beneficial. Just putting my thoughts,I know this is a weapons and items requests thread Agreed, though we don't have a SR-25 Carbine or equivalent right now. As far as 7.62x51mm AR's, we have the AR-10 covering non-RIS assault rifle, and the SR-25 covering the DMR roles. The SR-25ECC doesn't have an in-game equivalent yet.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 143 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:29:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NuYviRPOzDY ok here is something from my country ... basic model is in caliber .223 7.62x39 & 9x19 are optional http://www.v-ar.cz/en/v-ar-en.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Fri, 13 Sep 2013 04:14:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hmm,since we're talking Cesk

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:38:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_Wrobel What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

It was the mk48. And I could belt feed it allright with a "loader" and the standard "SAW Vest", just not the Commando-LMG thing...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:34:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mr_ClarkEl_Wrobel What LMG are you using? There was one that wasn't belt-fed even though it should be,can't remember what it was though. And I'll check the vest later.

It was the mk48. And I could belt feed it allright with a "loader" and the standard "SAW Vest", just not the Commando-LMG thing...

Yeah,I just checked,it's fucked,it has the belt fed flag instead of belt LBE.

Page 144 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit If you wanna fix it,do this: 1. Go to your installation directory,launch XML editor,if it doesn't want to launch copy from Data-Graphics folders that are in capital letters to data-AFS,UC113 or whatever you've got.

Edit. And also change the data directory XMLEditorInit.xml to whatever mod you're using,that is Data_Directory_1,3rd line,via notepad. 2.Press alt+B or choose,from the top,items-show-by class-Load Bearing. 3.Find Commando LBE - LMG,double click it 4.Choose attributes,in the right column there'll be Flags drop down menu,click it and change from belt fed to belt LBE. 5.Save,check if works

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:35:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_Wrobel 5.Save,check if works

Yeah, works just fine now. Must admit that I am weary using the XML editor with current releases for all the warnings of it stripping certain (new) item properties around the forum...

EDIT: Looking around a little I found a Bullpup RPK (the 762*39 version) but no in-game merger for it.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:48:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I've done quite a lot of editing and haven't noticed any stripped properties,for now at least. Do you,by chance,remember what properties are getting stripped?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:22:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Flashlight for sure, dunno what else was added recently.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:03:22 GMT

Page 145 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-magnum-het/ modern cz sniper rifle .. .300 wichester magnum or .338 lapua magnum colt 1911 can have an silencer ... if you have this litle thing http://www.silencershop.com/shop/colt-umarex-22lr-1911-adapter

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:11:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:can you please add one from these ? http://www.allmulticam.ru/multicam/tuning/tuningAK/Transparent_magazine_for_30_rounds_5_45 http://www.goldenstatetactical.com/Bulgarian-Transparent-Poly-40-Rd-AK-47-mags-p/bulak40ptr. htm http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/9-58078 http://www.huntingsuppliesoutfitter.com/hunting-gear/promag/saiga-41030-round-drum-black-rd-- GS-97423.html drum for saiga in caliber .410 capacity 30 rounds it is a posible add double or triple slug for caliber .410 thanks

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:24:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00drum for saiga in caliber .410 capacity 30 rounds it is a posible add double or triple slug for caliber .410

There is already a 30 round drum - I just forgot the adapter, fixed for v4.48.

.410 Buckshot covers your want for a triple bullet round.

Page 146 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:44:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.allmulticam.ru/multicam/tuning/tuningAK/Transparent_magazine_for_30_rounds_5_45 http://www.goldenstatetactical.com/Bulgarian-Transparent-Poly-40-Rd-AK-47-mags-p/bulak40ptr. htm http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/9-58078 trasnparent magazines for ak asault rifles

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 30 Sep 2013 21:03:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00trasnparent magazines for ak asault rifles Did someone code a feature to v1.13 where transparent magazines make transparent magazines more than a cosmetic change?

If you want to simply replace the existing graphics, do it for your own use, I like the classic orange 5.45x39mm magazines.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:12:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Wieger StG 940.

Or this thing.

...because it looks sexy.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 03 Oct 2013 20:12:20 GMT

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aviable in .300 wichester magnum or .338 lapaua magnum http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-magnum-het/

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-2075-rami/ compact size rami pistol

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 13 Oct 2013 03:43:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd like to see the introduction of a recoil pad.

I've noticed with my low strength characters that they lose a certain amount of Energy/Stamina when they fire a shot, especially with shotguns. I'd like to have something that counteracts it.

Example:

This is a sleeve that goes over the stock of any given rifle; as the weapon recoils back, the foam compresses and absorbs the brunt of the weapon's recoil.

This may have an adverse affect on autofire, or not! In terms of what it'd do, however, it'd reduce the energy impulse on the shooter, potentially reducing recoil as well...or at least increasing the shooter's ability to cope with the recoil.

Edited due to formatting error with picture

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by WaterHazard on Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:12:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SRM1216 (Is it possible to have in the v1.13 engine?)

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by pheloncab on Tue, 05 Nov 2013 23:40:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The 1216 should be doable, more or less a Neostad type. you would need to make the Magazine pictures as well as the gun pictures.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:19:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.berettaweb.com/armi/Beretta%2022LR%20Practice%20Kit.htm there is small caliber conv. kit for betty 92/96 edit: can please ad this item ? [i tem images are in iov mod] http://www.camofire.com/forum/hunting-deals/crkt-m21-special-forces-folding-tactical-knife

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by WaterHazard on Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:47:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sorry i'm kind of a Shotgun addict... XD (if i'm not wrong, i believe all of them are 12-gauge)

QBS-09

MTs-255

Winchester Model 1897

Page 149 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 09 Nov 2013 23:31:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message for winchester 1897 my vote is for model witch bayonet lug ... data for guns qbs-09 http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/ch/qbs-09-e.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTs-255

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:12:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It probably hasn't made it in already so I'll put in a request for a rare piece of candy. Probably belongs in the used section, hm? A full auto AR57!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 17 Nov 2013 17:29:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxIt probably hasn't made it in already so I'll put in a request for a rare piece of candy. Probably belongs in the used section, hm? A full auto AR57! Guess I should go and bring up my yearly want for attachments granting Auto-fire... This would allow me to get rid of 1/3rd the AR items, and allow for "civilian/military" versions for guns to appear with two new attachments...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Parkan on Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:40:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hello Wil473.

How about to add to core suff of your mods with additional armors(helmets,vest,leggins).You can use for Vests and leggins icons\sti files in P1items.sti(there is sti icons from stock 1.13 mod with Recon,Field ops and other armours).In suggestion i can advise to make those armors upgrade with appropiated kits,so those armors will be a little more protective and with camo bonuses(but without possibility to add Ghillie stuf on them).

Page 150 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 23 Dec 2013 21:31:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:maybe something from this is usable foryour mod uzi smg family Custom barrels are available for all makes and models of UZI firearms, Full Auto or Semi, Full size, Mini and Micro/Pistol, Porting optional Calibers available are: 380,9mm,9x21,357SIG,40S&W,10mm, 45GAP,45ACP, 30 tok. http://barrelxchange.com/_wsn/page2.html browing 1919 http://barrelxchange.com/_wsn/page3.html Convert your 1919 to 7.62x39 or 7.62x54R

7.62x39 conversion aviable

7.62x54R Conversion aviable

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 01 Jan 2014 07:42:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/smg/mex/cobra-e.html submachine cobra[9x17 caliber] uzi like smg if want more guns in this caliber

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sat, 04 Jan 2014 01:13:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 100 years later...

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Apparently not a joke.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 12 Jan 2014 02:15:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Double post for great justice.

Page 151 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit As http://world.guns.ru/smg/chex/skorpion-vz61-e.html states, "Scorpion SA Vz 68 - a rare version of the basic submachine gun produced for infantry use, chambered for 9x19 ammunition." Fixed stock Scorpion in 9mm Parabellum? Sounds like a perfect 'unique' find to me!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:16:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sa.23 and Sa.25 9x19mm Luger/Para this is much more interesting for me .. http://world.guns.ru/smg/chex/sa-23-e.html

7.62X39 130gr Glaser Safety Slug Blue[sixpack]

30-06 Springfield 130gr Glaser Safety Slug Blue[sixpack] this is nice ammo for early stage of game http://www.republic-arms.com/glaser.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:41:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Robinson Arms made a 7.62x51mm version of their XCR line, called the XCR-M, I'd like to see that included for completionist's sake

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by draculea on Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:18:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just got a VSSK drop and i think 17 handling difficulty it's too much. It is not that heavy at 6.8 Kg and has a bullpup config.

Also the integral heavy bipod is not standard. Seen only one VSSK in real life and it did not have one attached.

Also it would be nice to have the option to remove/replace such integral bipod/foregrip (as the option exists IRL) or at least fold them to make them more usable from crouch/standing.

For the included/integral optical attachments i think they are great and close to reality as they are now.

Nice job and keep it coming.

Regards!

Page 152 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:36:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: any chance add betty 92 compact model ? http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/it/beretta-92-e.html or taurus pt92 maybe pt100[alternative to beretta pistols]+ lower prize.-but having cheaper quality,you must have proper maitance ... http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/braz/taurus-pt92-pt99-pt100-pt101-e.html wlther p88 .. very rare & hard to find in third world country,aviable only in limited number having high prize http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/de/walther-p-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:17:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.csa.co.cz/en/15-produkty/24-sa58-223.html sa vz.58 in caliber .223[more variations] [.22 converzion kit aviable for .223 variant] http://www.csa.co.cz/en/15-produkty/25-sa58-765-39.html civilian variants from sa vz.58 http://www.beretta.cz/index.php?mod=eshop&cat=5_beretta&zbozi=1169_beretta-arx160-pistol&l ang=cz http://www.beretta.cz/index.php?mod=eshop&cat=5_beretta&zbozi=1168_beretta-arx160-rifle&lan g=cz

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mr_clark on Sun, 02 Feb 2014 12:00:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The new Kel-Tec here: http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/kel-tec_rdb-e.html looks interesting as a "early"/"low coolness" 5,56mm Battle Rifle. Plus I feel we need more

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As it seems one could also use this one with the .223Rem to 5,56 NATO "conversion barrel", maybe only make the .223 available from BRs?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:30:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:can you please add this sniper rifle. L42A1 military sniper rifle http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/brit/enfield-l42a1-and-enforcer-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by fallschirmjager on Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:04:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Alright, I'm a big machine gun junkie so here are a couple of interesting (in my opinion) requests.

The first is a modified and shortened PKP GPMG; http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/k_a_r_d_e_n/27475373/849836/849836_original.jpg http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/k_a_r_d_e_n/27475373/850029/850029_original.jpg

The ADF is now fielding 7,62 mm FN Minimis dubbed unofficially as "Maximis" by our guys. This is supposed to augment a rifle section's 5,56 mm Minimi LSW. Currently it isn't unusual to see the LSW not used at all with a section sporting both a Maxmimi and MAG-58 GPMG.

The reason I'm requesting the Maximi is because I'd like to see a full length, modular GPMG. I love the MAG-58 and adore the modularity of the MK 48 Para but I want the best of both worlds... that is a Maximi. http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o586/grylsyjaeger/maxpower.png

I had a play with one today during a Brigade event and was pretty impressed, I'd love to see it in JA2.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:34:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I was wondering about some of the weapons that come with bipods, especially the Steyr Scout and the FAMAS variants.

Page 154 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit They have bipods that fold out of the way and don't contribute to any reduction in maneuverability sans the extra weight. I could imagine an attachment (Integrated Folding Bipod) being added to simulate this, and possibly an attachment could work too (Folding Bipod). I'd recommend coolness 8-10 for this since it'd more or less mean a straight upgrade from the Bipod

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by jasmith on Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:45:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hi Wil, just stopping by to toss in some gap-filling suggestions, all from the HK lineup.

The HK417 in the 16" barrel (aka the existing G28 in automatic) would make the perfect DMR/spotter's rifle, which is how it's being used in a lot of countries (Australia, Norway). Nice mix of range, accuracy, and full-auto to throw down some long-range suppression or cover a sniper position being flanked. Add the 50-round mag for a DMR/LMG mix like what the L86 LSW has turned into.

The USP and UMP in 9mm. Maybe just replace the current USP in .40 with 9mm to represent the P8, or move along to the newer P2000/P30. It always struck me as odd that there wasn't a modern HK 9mm pistol in the mod, since that's their most common caliber by far.

Same logic with the UMP, since it seems like it's normally been adopted in 9mm or .40. If you feel like it you can even add a conversion kit to swap between all three calibers, a feature of the real weapon. Maybe bump the coolness up by one to compensate for the new flexibility.

The nice thing about all of these is that it'll just be modifying existing pictures, you wouldn't need to make any new mags or ammo types, and none of the stats should be difficult to judge.

P.S. Microscopic bug report that's not worth another post. The .300 Blackout barrel for the HK416 14.5" is listed as 10.5" in BR. The description is right, but someone looking at it for the first time might not know which to trust.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Wed, 14 May 2014 07:34:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about some alternative ammunition for the Dart gun?

My inspiration comes from the Resident Evil: Outbreak games, in which one of the main characters spawns with a Dart launcher. With it, he can shoot these little pills that can either heal teammates or harm enemies. For reference, there's healing pills, antidotes (great vs plants), hemostats, and antivirus (massive damage to zombies) pills.

Now while JA2 is no Resident Evil game, it still has Energy Boosters/Regen Boosters. What if you

Page 155 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit could use those in dart guns and shoot them into allies? This way your medic has a ranged way to heal allies (with the risk of missing). Definitely Scifi-level stuff.

In terms of coding, the ammunition would be unique and replicate using energy/regen boosts on the target (or fail if it misses of course)...at least, theoretically. Hope this isn't too much to ask for!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 14 May 2014 07:44:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dart is obsolete,im for intar device from stargate sg-1,this item can convert any weapon to high tech stun gun[they have adjustable power setings for amount of stun]you need only recharging energy ....

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 14 May 2014 12:19:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message John A SmithThe HK417 in the 16" barrel (aka the existing G28 in automatic) would make the perfect DMR/spotter's rifle, which is how it's being used in a lot of countries (Australia, Norway). Nice mix of range, accuracy, and full-auto to throw down some long-range suppression or cover a sniper position being flanked. Add the 50-round mag for a DMR/LMG mix like what the L86 LSW has turned into.

The USP and UMP in 9mm. Maybe just replace the current USP in .40 with 9mm to represent the P8, or move along to the newer P2000/P30. It always struck me as odd that there wasn't a modern HK 9mm pistol in the mod, since that's their most common caliber by far.

Same logic with the UMP, since it seems like it's normally been adopted in 9mm or .40. If you feel like it you can even add a conversion kit to swap between all three calibers, a feature of the real weapon. Maybe bump the coolness up by one to compensate for the new flexibility.

The nice thing about all of these is that it'll just be modifying existing pictures, you wouldn't need to make any new mags or ammo types, and none of the stats should be difficult to judge. Low priority, probably for v5.xx - not really wanting to add more items unless they are feature related (I want to try my hand at modifying other aspects of v1.13).

John A SmithP.S. Microscopic bug report that's not worth another post. The .300 Blackout barrel for the HK416 14.5" is listed as 10.5" in BR. The description is right, but someone looking at it for the first time might not know which to trust. Fixed

M16AMachinegunHow about some alternative ammunition for the Dart gun?

Page 156 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit My inspiration comes from the Resident Evil: Outbreak games, in which one of the main characters spawns with a Dart launcher. With it, he can shoot these little pills that can either heal teammates or harm enemies. For reference, there's healing pills, antidotes (great vs plants), hemostats, and antivirus (massive damage to zombies) pills.

Now while JA2 is no Resident Evil game, it still has Energy Boosters/Regen Boosters. What if you could use those in dart guns and shoot them into allies? This way your medic has a ranged way to heal allies (with the risk of missing). Definitely Scifi-level stuff.

In terms of coding, the ammunition would be unique and replicate using energy/regen boosts on the target (or fail if it misses of course)...at least, theoretically. Hope this isn't too much to ask for! In-game any shot that hits is considered hostile, so game mechanics would make "health darts" problematic. Imagine the militia going hostile because you tried to heal one of them. In-story however this makes sense, well for Sci-fi mode and Urban Chaos. Probably best to ask for it as a new feature instead of leveraging off in-game attack mechanics. wolf00dart is obsolete,im for intar device from stargate sg-1,this item can convert any weapon to high tech stun gun[they have adjustable power setings for amount of stun]you need only recharging energy .... There are already quite a few stun weapons. Before considering a variable lethality weapon, I must ask are people using the current less-than-lethal inventory?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 15 May 2014 17:46:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 12g: i hhave in use-flasbang,tear gas,firestarter shell. same in .410 caliber & birdshot for close range... udar revolver:flasbang/tear gas/baton shells http://imzcorp.com/en/company/99.html this can be nice .. http://imzcorp.com/en/company/317.html second ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 20 May 2014 00:08:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just thinking out loud here, I dont really care for how most optics block iron sights

Is there any chance you could include one or more of the following:

1) If it doesn't exist, a way to disable "Scope blocks iron sights" 2) Off Axis Iron sights (I'd additionally say maybe an off axis reflex sight but i think that'd be too overpowered 3) Flip mount that lets you get the scope out of the way for irons, could cost AP to use (though with alternative scope modes this is really irrelevant)

Page 157 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit One of my favorite things to do in video games (specifically modern military shooters) is take DMRs and use them in CQB. I've got the reflexes to do just that without getting myself killed the majority of the time but it forces me to use a lower powered scope to do effectively.

Oh wait, there's ACOG (Reflex 4x scope) + Reflex sight or Advanced Reflex Sight + Dependent 2-6x magnifiers. These get the job done in my mind, as do the "Scope Mount + Reflex Sight" attachments

MAN, resetting so often with each new release is getting annoying, I never get to the good gear by the time another update comes around! XD

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 20 May 2014 05:43:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_786049_-1_ 769651_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y[caliber:.410,.45 acp ,.45 colt]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 22 May 2014 10:56:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html http://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/bond-arms/texas-defender-derringer-40sw-3in-2rd-stain less/ wil473: can you please add in these two ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 22 May 2014 11:19:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Scroll down to The Operative. Complete silence for your sneaky scout.

This thing too.

Page 158 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:21:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message conversion kit for glock:glock in 9x18 makarov

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 03 Jun 2014 20:19:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 9x18 Glock sounds very interesting.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:13:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A large line of popguns, in case Glock isn't your thing.

Oh, and the new P320. Toggle Spoiler IyBfrf7iitA[/video]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:37:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message walther p99c beretta 92compact

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:13:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Desert Tactical has renamed/rebranded themselves as Desert Tech. The Desert Tactical SRS rifles in .308/7.62x51mm and .338 lapua should have their names updated

Page 159 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Source: http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/ Check the top of the page, it says "Desert Tech". Apparently this change is recent.

Additionally it seems they're making a bullpup battle rifle with modular calibers. The Micro Dynamic Rifle, seen at ShotShow 2014.

Their first run will include calibers: 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm, 7.62x39mmWP, 6.8 SPC, and .300BLK.

A 7.62x51mm prototype shown at ShotShow had a 16" barrel, was 26" long overall, and weighed 7.5 lbs A 5.56x45mm prototype at the same show had a 10.5" barrel, was 20.5" long overall, and weighed 7.12 lbs. The compact version was called MDR-C.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:55:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah, I've been looking at the MDR - easy way to knock out 10 bullpup rifles.

Additionally I've been thinking about redoing the Walther lineup. Nothing too soon however.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by sidew on Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:44:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I like to see a conversion kit for pistols like CAA Tactical RONI for converting Glock pistols in carbine

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:49:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message sidewI like to see a conversion kit for pistols like CAA Tactical RONI for converting Glock pistols in carbine

[img] This item is already in the mod as an attachment (attaches to more than just Glock's).

Speaking of Glocks, another thing I have planned for the next major addition of new items will be 1st generation Glocks - same stats but less attachments. The current Glocks and similar polymer (light weight) pistols I want to push to mid-game. This is to assist with the NCTH balance, need to

Page 160 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit shift more pistol to mid-late game.

A low capacity Beretta may be in the cards for similar balance reasons, perhaps as a progress 0/1 weapon - though will have the fudge the magazine down to 8. This is also why I'm looking at adding some of the new Walther's.

The DT bullpup(s) are meant to provide me we additional options to push down the appearance of "proper" AR's possibly as early as game progress 3.

With NCTH, every class of gun should appear throughout the game to some extent. With moving tanks, I'm going to have to come up with some progress 2 AT weapons...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:27:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Regarding Berettas...

If you're going to include an early, 8-round version of it, perhaps that could be a 92 Compact, or otherwise make it "New York Legal" or something lol

On the flip side, could you possibly include Beretta 92A1s? They make berettas with underbarrel attachment rails and whatnot.

Regarding Progress Lv2 AT Weapons...

Panzerfaust? Perhaps allow for early explosives (dynamite/C4/etc) and especially detonators to be obtained? Perhaps find a way to prevent tanks from physically spawning in maps unless in Meduna or a certain progress level is active? I dont know

That's cool that you're trying to push ARs to Progress Lv3 though, and I support that design decision: getting even poor 5.56 or other intermediate caliber weapons in early will help for longer range combat...plinking with pistols at 20 squares or further is annoying when you get past Drassen.

...Or you could just fight at night, which i never do due to lower visibility and being overwhelmed by 15 enemies that just happen to be out of visual range (INSANE difficulty because why not)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 20:04:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message panzerfaust?

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 19 Jun 2014 23:12:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Lets go with both

But yes, i meant the Panzerschreck. Thank you for the correction, i had a feeling i was using the wrong word

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:45:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It wasn't actually wrong, just a different weapon with the same purpose. The Bazooka's proliferation makes it a more believable choice though. RPG-2 would also be a good early-mid choice, lacking the versatility of its successor.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Sat, 21 Jun 2014 22:28:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about KS-23? I know it would require a new caliber,but man,that's one badass shotgun/rifle : D

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:26:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://gunsru.ru//rg_pistol_OTs-21_eng.html http://gunsru.ru//rg_mp-488_eng.html http://gunsru.ru//rg_vintovki_mts-116m_eng.html

Page 162 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit http://gunsru.ru//rg_granatomet_gp-34_eng.html http://gunsru.ru//rg_revolver_ots-38_eng.html two small frame pistol,sniper rifle,grenade launcher,silent revolver

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:24:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message El_WrobelHow about KS-23? I know it would require a new caliber,but man,that's one badass shotgun/rifle : D Hell yeah!

How about the AB-10 as a not-so-cool early high-capacity pistol alternative? Something for Tony to brush off and sell cheap. The Tec-22 would be neat too but I dunno.

Also found a bullpup conversion for the 10/22. Right here.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:24:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZOw8znTyTQ[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdOcBAaKeLc&list=PL5WW8HF3UXj-is9_nr62taytEsoHfYQfX &index=1[/video] what about these ?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:25:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: if you want boost for mac10/11 series,this page have some upgrades &part to show ..... even .22 conv.kits are aviable http://www.max-11.com/

Page 163 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 08 Jul 2014 07:16:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-Desert-Eagle-1911-GR-Model.asp

.45 acp dezert eagle ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 06:26:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message p226 .22 lr conv. kit

http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=SI G1200353&Category_Code=SIG

.22 lr conv kit for p229 http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=SI GCONV-229R-22&Category_Code=SIG http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=19 11+THRD+CONV+Combo&Category_Code=Colt1911

1911 conv. kit variation1

1911 .22 lr conv for small frame pistols http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=19 11+STND+CONV+PICT&Category_Code=Colt1911

glock .22 lr conv kit http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RSC&Product_Code=T SG-22&Category_Code=GLK

if you vant expand your ak rifles line in mod,there is something

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.223/5.56x45 https://www.k-var.com/shop/MK-028.html .22lr conv kit for makarov pm

http://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/magnum-research/desert-eagle-pistol-357-sig-6in-black /

dezert eagle .357 sig

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:37:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hey hey, Beretta taking charge again. Seems the 92 A1 is made to handle +P loads. 96 A1 and 98 A1 also exist.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:56:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message well i realy like to see colt 1911 but 9x19[arnie gun from terminator2] or in .40 s&w paraordonance also .38special +p can be nice

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Oberst_Klink on Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:33:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I am playing Urban Chaos and noticed that Elhi has some Mags of Overpressure Rounds for her Vityaz. Where can I get these Ammo ingame? Bobby Rays online shop don't list them.

Greetings

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Pepper79 on Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:34:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZOw8znTyTQ[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdOcBAaKeLc&list=PL5WW8HF3UXj-is9_nr62taytEsoHfYQfX &index=1[/video] what about these ?

I could make a picture of an AK with drum mag, but you would have to add it to the game on your own. Changing calibres of guns is really easy, you only have to change 1 parameter in the xml file.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 05 Sep 2014 20:20:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil:can you please at these guns ? http://gunsru.ru//rg_pistol_OTs-21_eng.html aviable in 9x18 pm & .380 colt http://gunsru.ru//rg_mp-488_eng.html

9x18pm &.380 colt note veresk sr2: SP-10 (7N29) - armor piercing bullet with hardened steel core

SP-11 (7N28) - standard FMJ bullet with lead core

SP-12 - low ricocheting, expanding bullet

SP-13 (7BTZ) - tracer AP bullet based on 7N29

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 12 Oct 2014 05:17:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .357 magnum revolvers can use .38 ammo

Page 166 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit how bout including a .460 Rowland set of guns that can take .45acp ammo?

>High pressure .45 acp derivative. .45 normally runs at ~21,000 psi. 460 Rowland runs at ~40,000 psi. Attempts to recreate the performance of the .44 magnum in a semi-auto package. Seems to be successful. >Is to .45 acp what .357 is to .38 spl. Available in conversion package for glocks, 1911s, and XDs. Has a few pistols made for it including MP and Wilson. >Completely interchangeable with .45 acp mags. >Felt recoil is supposed to be substantially less than .44 magnum. http://460rowland.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.460_Rowland

I was thinking maybe .460 Rowland could be limited to low capacity firearms for game balance purposes, for example, the low capacity, 7-round m1911 could have a .460 Rowland derivative

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Additionally, I'm curious to see if your next patch will have compatibility with IMP gear selection, http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/336070/New_Feature:_IMP_gear_selectio #Post336070

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:43:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looking through the XML editor at the different guns, noticed: why isn't there a Steyr AUG A3 HBAR?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:27:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Speaking of new AUG A3 stuff... They call it the SF, or M1.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sat, 25 Oct 2014 03:52:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @ Slax

Page 167 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit As cool as that is, it seems like it's the same as a steyr AUG-A1 with a double-railed 1.5x scope instead of the simply 1.5x scope it comes with in-game

Not to mention the A3 in-game does the same thing except with a 42 round mag

Edit 1: SIG's planning on making a 10mm P226 variant! woot, more high capacity choices rather than just the glock 20!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 05 Nov 2014 00:34:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Here's a little something special I think can find a home in the world of wil473. http://www.gunsinternational.com/PTR-91SS-SUPER-SNIPER.cfm?gun_id=100497293

It's... just so pretty!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:17:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message PTR-91SS - a civilian G3 clone with floating barrel? I suppose it would be easy to knock one out by messing around with one of the existing G3's, perhaps mash in the P-Stock (looks like a Magpul stock).

First, I need to get the mods caught up with both development and release. I held off on advertising 4.49 because it generated a lot of (harmless) errors when installed on the "Stable 2014." Have time and motivation to get it done right for 4.50, trying for end of year, plenty of incremental Release Candidate's planned and will try to add a few new items.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 10 Nov 2014 03:32:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message More stuff for the AR-15 tweakers (ME!) right here. http://youtu.be/FhXb2xUCuto

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 12 Nov 2014 07:05:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 168 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit You know, the Glock 17L seems like something a sharpshooter cop would be using. *whistle*

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:26:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please add this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-42

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 30 Nov 2014 18:35:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: here is something from my homeland http://www.proarms-armory.com/en/parmk3/techspecs.html http://www.proammo.cz/zbrane/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:43:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Found a crazy cheap shotgun. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_871/products_id/411553152

Don't know how it performs but it's under $300 and that seems like a steal. Good for early game shenanigans.

Also, M1 in 9mm and .22LR. http://www.chiappafirearms.com/path/competitive Very handy.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 07 Dec 2014 11:22:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Walther PPQ M2 .22 graphics I did up ended up looking really ugly, and the stats ended up being identical to the Walther P22 and Walther P22 Target anyways so I'm dropping the both .22LR PPQ M2 variants from v4.50. Instead I will be adding the Chiappas M1 in 9x19mm and

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EDIT: No more new items in v4.50 unless someone comes up with something really compelling (and easy to add). I've still got to check the INI's against the latest SCI and produce a golf course for UC-1.13. See here for what items have made it into v4.50's final cut.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 04:19:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I can think of something easy to add

SIG P226 10mm with potential SAS/compact variant

SIG made a press release saying they're considering making a 10mm SIG a bit ago.

Why include it: We only have one 15 round 10mm pistol at this point, the Glock 20...unless I missed one. Do we need it? No, of course not, but that doesn't mean it isn't cool.

Picture could be copied or slightly modified from existing SIG pistols. Maybe a Dark Grey slide, mimicking the Delta Elite (or whatever the elite's color was)?

Additionally, is there anyway to include caliber conversion kits for the Desert Eagle, including a 10" barrel version? the Deagle XIX can swap out the barrel, bolt, and magazine to switch between .357mag, .44mag, .41-somethin or other, and .50AE. Having three deagles potentially condenced into one would make the heavy pistol at least somewhat more useful vs having to purchase specialty ammunition for it.

Recommend recycling the graphics for the ACR conversion kit, or using some other suitcase-like graphic.

Re-deagling yer deagle to deagle some fools with some other deagle food is deagle-tastic!

I think I lost a few brain cells typing that out, sorry.

[IF YOU INCLUDE THIS QUOTE IN THE DESCRIPTION I WOULD LAUGH MY ASS OFF]

In summary, conversion kit for the three desert eagle variants (you can keep the color change)? Potentially including a 10" barrel variant, if we can get an artist on that?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:43:22 GMT

Page 170 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message so why not try .38 sp in dezert eagle ? of course this have some penalty included ... maybe add some p+ ammo for some other calibers can be interesting

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:05:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Why would you want to make your impractically large and heavy pistol even more impractical by making it a bolt action?

(Non-witty version: A .38 doesn't produce enough pressure to cycle fully and chamber the next round)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:23:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message you talking about normal .38 round ? maybe .38+p can be able create pressure for reload nex round but if not,no problem ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:41:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nope, place I checked specifically mentioned +p

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:49:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dezert eagle variant exist also in .357 sig.. from what i hear near every handgun in .40s&w[read pistol] can be able handle .357 ammo, you need right spring & barrel with match to this caliber,excample walther p99 in .40 s&w have propably chance for using .357 sig amuniton ..

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:16:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .38 Super for the DEagle, maybe? More muzzle velocity at least. Just over half that of a .357

Page 171 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Magnum. Still, why use a .38 when you've got access to dat yummy .357?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:01:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.grandpower.eu/kategoria-14-clanok-434-detail-roxor-#ad-image-0 http://www.grandpower.eu/kategoria-16-clanok-437-detail-p-40l-#ad-image-0 http://www.grandpower.eu/kategoria-16-clanok-436-detail-p45-l-#ad-image-0 http://www.grandpower.eu/kategoria-16-clanok-194-detail-p380-#ad-image-0 http://www.grandpower.eu/kategoria-16-clanok-176-detail-p9m-#ad-image-0 some candidates from slovakia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4vqO8NQyKE[/video] falcon sniper rifle czech republic

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:16:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:can you please add this gun Cz vz.50 .32 acp 8round magazine capacity http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/chex/cz-50-cz-70-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 02:30:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M16AMachinegunAdditionally, is there anyway to include caliber conversion kits for the Desert Eagle, including a 10" barrel version? the Deagle XIX can swap out the barrel, bolt, and magazine to switch between .357mag, .44mag, .41-somethin or other, and .50AE. Having three deagles potentially condenced into one would make the heavy pistol at least somewhat more useful vs having to purchase specialty ammunition for it.

Recommend recycling the graphics for the ACR conversion kit, or using some other suitcase-like graphic.

Page 172 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Re-deagling yer deagle to deagle some fools with some other deagle food is deagle-tastic!

I think I lost a few brain cells typing that out, sorry.

[IF YOU INCLUDE THIS QUOTE IN THE DESCRIPTION I WOULD LAUGH MY ASS OFF]

In summary, conversion kit for the three desert eagle variants (you can keep the color change)? Potentially including a 10" barrel variant, if we can get an artist on that?

This would be doable before the end of the year (after I get that map replaced in UC-1.13). Initially four items:

DE Frame DE .357 barrel/spring/slide DE .41 barrel/spring/slide DE .50 AE barrel/spring/slide

The conversion process would like the AR-15 and MDR, rather than that used FN SCAR or Steyr AUG. One extra item, the frame, but easier to manage mergers and item transformations.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:09:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message my vote go to the urban+wood omon uniform omon & r60 sniper jacket [grafics is aviable via iov mod] also dezert eagle le carbine can be interesting choice[this have atached pernament fixed stock & slightly longer barrel[source iov,colt scamp can be & tuma .224 vob can be nice but these towo bring problem[need new caliber to create]

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:08:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473 DE Frame DE .357 barrel/spring/slide DE .41 barrel/spring/slide DE .50 AE barrel/spring/slide

.44mag as well bud.

Wait, is .41 even in this mod?

Page 173 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:37:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I was half asleep when I typed that, I meant .44 - slightly ahead of schedule, I may have time to hack the v1.13 Desert Eagles into the 10" variant.

EDIT: ...and it is done, the Desert Eagle is now a modular weapon system like the MDR and AR-15. It will be in v4.50 Preview 3 of UC-1.13 (tomorrow if all goes well). That's it for 2014 additions, need to get all the items consistent between mods and documentation done before release later this month.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:41:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Only other thing i can suggest is the Crye Precision Six12 shotgun. It'd essentially be a semi-auto Masterkey with a 6-round magazine. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/01/16/crye-precision-six12-shotgun/

Besides that, I don't recall if you updated this or not, but the FN MAG needs an optic rail OR a variant that's introduced later that has one, like the US Army's M240B.

As for other 7.62x51mm LMGs, I vaugely recall the HK 21E missing the ability to include optics as well.

Is this simply oversight, or for balance reasons?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:35:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M16AMachinegunOnly other thing i can suggest is the Crye Precision Six12 shotgun. It'd essentially be a semi-auto Masterkey with a 6-round magazine. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/01/16/crye-precision-six12-shotgun/ Interesting... on a conceptual level, there is the problem of the existing 6rd 12 gauge magazines being box mags vs. cylinders in the mods.

M16AMachinegunBesides that, I don't recall if you updated this or not, but the FN MAG needs an optic rail OR a variant that's introduced later that has one, like the US Army's M240B. Looked at the FN website, I have an urge to replace the Mk.48 graphic (using one from IoV presently). Something to do in 2015.

I'm thinking about dispensing with the Desert Eagle Rail kit in v4.50 (Full Release) and just giving the Desert Eagle a RIS optics rail from the start. I may recycle the double rail graphic for a FN MAG rail kit so that I can limit availability. I did consider just using the generic Scope mount RIS,

Page 174 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit but this way I can give the MAG a forward set of rails as well.

M16AMachinegunAs for other 7.62x51mm LMGs, I vaugely recall the HK 21E missing the ability to include optics as well.

Is this simply oversight, or for balance reasons? Checked all three mods, the HK 21E should be able to accept the same optics, laser sight, and scope adapter as the G3/MP5's. Will test in-game during final tests.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:01:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i know i maybe now say something stupid.i feel waste of posible resources,this termalscope on at4 rocket launcher is after usage aviable on gun body,if it is posible remove it & use on some gun[most expeded on antimaterial rifles],this item can have status canont be repaired.. http://nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=364&group_id=24&country_id=179&lang=0 rocket launcher for cheap prize

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 21 Dec 2014 00:12:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00i know i maybe now say something stupid.i feel waste of posible resources,this termalscope on at4 rocket launcher is after usage aviable on gun body,if it is posible remove it & use on some gun[most expeded on antimaterial rifles],this item can have status canont be repaired.. No, the thermal scope is locked on the AT4 for balance. For a few hours I thought I could give the AT4 a rail and that would allow the player to have versatility without balance issues (scope sold separately), but due to game mechanics that is not possible. wolf00 http://nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=364&group_id=24&country_id=179&lang=0 rocket launcher for cheap prize

Maybe in 2015.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 22 Dec 2014 21:02:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/79-pistols-cz/PS/CZ_2075_D_RAMI.aspx

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pocket beast from czech republic aviable in 9x19 or .40 s&w http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2800/2858.htm

maybe this interesting to add

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:48:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A new dress for the Mosin.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by mentatz on Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:56:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Requesting the SIG P250C and other variants. I got jealous of the modern Walther variants. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/SIG-Sauer_P250

Edit: added image

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:21:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message For reference, the SIG P250 is able to change calibers by changing out the frame, barrel, and slide; you'd only have to hang onto the trigger group and you'd be good to go. mentatz, I personally disagree, there's not much advantage to caliber-swapping weapons that are THIS light. You'd be better off just having another pistol.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

Page 176 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by Slax on Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:52:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Bullpup dress for the 10/22.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:10:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.bodyarmorchina.com/ maybe some armor type from this site can be interesting

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:42:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not sure about this one, buuuut...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:16:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think Magpul had this mockup of a Glock mod that would be interesting: The FMG-9

When deployed, it'd only have the short, top rail to work with. Integrated foregrip, some bonus stats to account for the stock. It'd be statistically identical to a Glock 18, but of course have those elements added.

The kicker to the FMG-9 is having it being able to fold up into a much more manageable shape; Apparently when folded up the FMG-9 can fit into an adult male's back pocket, easily. It may not be as small as a pistol but it'd arguably make for the tiniest machine pistol in terms of what pockets you can store it in while it's folded up.

Of course, it'd take AP to deploy/store it, so a merc/player has to consider if he can spare that much time to deploy it (and keep it out) vs maybe take the time to use a larger weapon. ...Or just hipfire that sniper rifle and get a headshot at 20 squares away >_>

I dunno, something cool to consider.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:45:07 GMT

Page 177 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message When I originally heard about this mod I was pretty estatic and was enthusiastic about having my author-insert merc carrying 2-3 spare uppers for ARs and swapping them in as ammo counts runs low.

...Well, that never happened, but it does happen with the pistol caliber weapons. Specifically the Desert Eagle, which uses a similar receiver + 'upper' now to the ARs that I sorta feel like it needs a dedicated case to store the extra barrels and whatnot, or SOME way of easing the limited inventory space.

I came up with a few solutions that could be applied to ARs.

1: Having an item to flat out merge uppers with and then applying it to an existing weapon much like how the Bushmaster ACR or SIG MPX works Cons: Would likely eat/destroy attachments, hundreds of thousands of variants to individually code, ruins the point of actually being able to separate the upper receiver from the lower

2: Having a dummy 'gun' which the extra parts can be 'attached' to for storage, including but not limited to an entire working gun. With the Underbarrel mod from a few months/years back we can attach guns to guns, so Cons: "Remove All Attachments" could screw with this, EVERY SINGLE AR/Deagle variant/upper/lower needs to be modified to be an attachment

3: Allowing extra uppers to be 'stored' in the Internal Storage slot. Same as 2 but doesn't require a new item Cons: Severely limited amount of extra uppers to be stored, potentially infringes on the realism factor

4: Dedicated Backpack (or combat pack) for storing extra uppers/lowers/ammo Pros: Uses existing architecture/code, might require specific pockets to ONLY hold uppers/lowers Cons: Dealing with backpacks in combat, remembering to take out of backpack before you Drop All Backpacks in case you want to use it in the field, etc; Gear Bag might already work for this sh*t

Of course, changing uppers in combat is sort of a moot point anyway because the argument of "Why not just bring another working gun" is exceptionally strong that I sometimes notice I bog down one or two of my favorite/favored mercs with 4-6 guns at a time

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:23:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M16AMachinegun wrote on Mon, 09 February 2015 14:45Of course, changing uppers in combat is sort of a moot point anyway because the argument of "Why not just bring another working gun" is exceptionally strong that I sometimes notice I bog down one or two of my favorite/favored mercs with 4-6 guns at a time One main rifle, one backup carbine/SMG, one sidearm, two spare uppers, at least one "I'll get to it

Page 178 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit later" lower aaaand... Ehm. Yes. It's hard to resist.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:23:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Carbines/SMGs are obselete when you have Pistols 2x

Once you use a Walter PPS to one-shot enemies at 20 squares, you can't go back to using automatics, especially how SLOW they are.

I mean seriously, it's like you can get 15 or so shots off with a pistol, and meanwhile you can't even get two aimed 3-rnd bursts with an MP5SD6

...Granted, the MP5SD is naked and the pistol has a red dot sight...

But no, My personal-insert merc's loadout is usually

KAC SR-25 or DT SRS Some AR/Carbine Some Grenade Launcher, sometimes attached to the AR/Carbine (I'm prolly gonna pick up and keep an F2000 WS) Grenades out the wazoo, i generally use em a lot too Scoped Desert Eagle or suppressed SOCOM and more recently a Walther PPS (fits in a Small pocket!)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:47:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message precision lower reciver for ak platform based weapon[just like leo 951],adaptor for gp 25/gp 30 can be used on western asult rifles,adaptor for using western under grenade launchers on wp asult rifles ... maybe just some clone from h&k mp5 adapted for .380 acp or 9x18 makarov can be nice ... some cheap bulletprof armored vest from china ... http://www.bodyarmorchina.com/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 03 Apr 2015 22:36:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:06:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message thats what .410 bore is for bro

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 04 Apr 2015 09:33:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message certain guns in this mod can load .45 long colt ammo. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/769614/cci-shotshell-ammunition-45-colt-long-colt-150-grains -9-shot-box-of-10

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 05:13:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Any chance at expanding the MPX's calibers to additionally taking .40S&W and 9x19 with conversion kits?

Also, the SIG MCX rifle looks quite amazing, like a top-tier AR upper. Hyper-reliable, suppressible, has a folding stock...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:06:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now in the few minutes I've had looking into these new Sigs the Pistol Brace Stock (PSB) caught my eye. Looks like I'll have to examine how attachments are handled again to add this. I may be able to get away with classing this as an AR stock.

As far as new variants, I should be able to use existing resources to produce another system of uppers/lowers/weapons/badly done (and repetitive) graphics.

MPX (redone) in: - MPX (Standard), MPX-K, MPX-P, MPX-PSB, MPX-SD, MPX-C - .357SIG, 9x19mm, .40 S&W

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MPC in: - Carbine, SBR, PSB - 5.56mm, 7.62x39mm, .300BLK - folding and telescopic stock options - compatibility between MPC upper receivers and existing in game lowers and (probably) new SIG lower(s)

I've been meaning to produce an AR upper in 7.62x39mm, but have put off researching if 7.62x39mm would fit the magazine well of a 5.56mm lower. Now if the mods had a 7.62x51mm lower...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:58:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It will fit, but IRL you would be restricted to special 7.62x39 AR mags rather than any of the 1000 AK mags. Also, it appears those platforms are generally prone to feed issues due to the geometry of the magazines.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:36:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @wil473 regarding "Now if the mods had a 7.62x51mm lower..." Colt LE901 Oh wait that isn't full auto

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 19:11:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm considering adding a few new Upper/Lower combo's actually: 1) 7.62x51mm Lower (possibly just a Mil/LE version of the Colt LE901) 2) Ares Sport Configurable Rifle (SCR)

In the meantime, I don't remember if I've used negative modifiers to achieve the effect to semi-auto only, Semi & Full Auto only, and Semi & Burst only trigger groups. Something to do before I start my usual request for the same new XML tags.

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Page 181 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:45:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I still think there needs to be another item to store excess uppers or lowers into as well as ammunition

Or will a simple backpack of some sort do, and i'm overthinking this?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Wed, 08 Apr 2015 00:29:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Why is the DT MDR .308 semi auto only?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:32:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://onlylongrange.com/bad-news/ nice rifle http://onlylongrange.com/ulr/ looking ugly like hell..can fire .50 bmg or .338 lapua magnum ammo

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 10 Apr 2015 19:51:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M16AMachinegun wrote on Tue, 07 April 2015 19:29Why is the DT MDR .308 semi auto only? Bug - fixed in the patch. wolf00 wrote on Fri, 10 April 2015 04:32http://onlylongrange.com/bad-news/ nice rifle http://onlylongrange.com/ulr/ looking ugly like hell..can fire .50 bmg or .338 lapua magnum ammo

Since I'm revisiting the AR type weapons, won't take much to fill in a few odd rounds with Noreen BN's - .338 Lapua - 30-06 Springfield - .300WM

EDIT: Wil473 wrote on Sun, 05 April 2015 14:11In the meantime, I don't remember if I've used negative modifiers to achieve the effect to semi-auto only, Semi & Full Auto only, and Semi & Burst only

Page 182 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit trigger groups. Something to do before I start my usual request for the same new XML tags. I can create an attachment that removes burst fire, but not one that removes autofire. Basically, trigger group attachments alone will not be able to control what fire modes are available and the mods will still be using duplicate guns to achieve the same effect.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sat, 11 Apr 2015 03:33:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.fd-defense.com/index.php/fd338

I've noticed theres a lack of semi-auto .338 Lapua Magnum rifles. Is there any reason besides lack of popularity for this? Or is it a balance issue? (which i'd imagine it isnt since the semi auto .50bmg exists

Also, since we can now differentiate between how much damage in Breath Points and Hit Points ammo types can do, we can now have non-lethal ammo for potentially capturing enemies.

Or perhaps just to knock them out so we can stab them

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:17:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message While I agree that there is a lack of semi-auto .338 Lapua Magnum rifles in-game, I'm thinking one AR style/direct impingement is enough. That said, the FD338 may be the one added due to the colour scheme.

As far as a dedicated LBE for AR parts, I'm looking at possibly redoing the in-game med graphics so that some of them fit a small LBE slot (14" and less). AR leg pack with 2 14" uppers, 1 lower, 2x AR mags, and a cleaning kit?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 17:54:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Wil473: Yeah, it's a good start, because at least then you can shove a few of em into a backpack plenty easily for longterm storage

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Page 183 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:03:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_MSR how about this multicaliber msr ? gun images are aviable in iov mod

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:21:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Other contenders for .338LM both semi-auto:

Alexander Arms R-338- Ulfberht RND2000

I'll take a look at importing the MSR as well.

EDIT: actually on closer inspection of their descriptions, the FD338 has a piston system and the Bad News is Direct Impingement... guess both will be in.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 03:35:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Do you have a 7.62x51 version of the Rheinmetall MG 3?

Wikiped says theres a 7.62x51mm version

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:19:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Huh? The MG3 is the 7.62x51 version of the design.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:23:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I only vaugely recall the MG3 being in the game, i dont know what caliber it's in, which is why i'm asking for someone to confirm/deny it's in 7.62x51

Page 184 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:30:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It is, otherwise it wouldn't be an MG3

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 19 Apr 2015 12:23:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: please can you add this one ? https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/dominion-arms-grizzly-mag-shotgun-12-5/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:10:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Beep beep. Found a cool little monster. https://www.full30.com/video/bfbadc538aed574c05565a3ad8965854

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 26 Apr 2015 13:52:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thats really cool Slax

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 28 Apr 2015 12:03:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-GCP702S

http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=856&category=Revolver

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:33:44 GMT

Page 185 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message keltec ar pistol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_PLR-16

keltec p32 modern .32 acp pistol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_P-32

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:21:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473: can you please add this gun AAC MK 46 SAW .300 BLK http://www.tactical-life.com/gear/aac-mk-46-saw-300-blk/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sat, 02 May 2015 19:51:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd like more ammunition types for the .410 bore weapons, for example baton, flashbang, stun, etc it'd make having a pocket pistol in this caliber have plenty of utility! I wouldn't have to have an oversized 12g just to have 4+ flashbang shots

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 02 May 2015 22:07:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Planning on replacing some of the Mk.46 graphics (eventually), but then I'll need belts for .300BLK.

Related to the 2015 Scope and Sight Changes, need a suggestion for a western/RIS equivalent of the PO 1.5-4.5x16 Scope please. Testing the patch right now and the PO 1.5-4.5x16 in conjunction with changes to the Heavy Bipod and preparation (the only reason I'm not reversing these particular changes) made the KSVK usable at a reasonably short range.

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Page 186 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 03 May 2015 08:09:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message if something for shotguns, cd ammo for .410 http://www.slickguns.com/product/hornady-86238-critical-def-410-triple-def-410ga-25-3541cal-sho t-20bx10cs-flat-rate-ship ping- or pdx ammo for same caliber http://www.slickguns.com/product/winchester-pdx1-410-defense-ammo-10-rounds-2-12-1234-free -shipping

.410 lock busting ammo can be usefull ... i see this gun at first time in afs:ak12 lw but in 6.8 spc remington ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 03 May 2015 10:50:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It seems to me like russian rifles (specifically using russian scopes) are immensely inferior to western rifles using even the Battle Scope, and i'm not sure why

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 07 May 2015 16:07:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ok, the scope (and now general AP) changes will at the least "inconvenience" save games - might as well break it completely. Open season on any odd magazine sizes for existing in-game calibres.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 10 May 2015 12:33:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Loose rounds for everything! Stuff your pockets.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 11 May 2015 20:07:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/assault-rifles/hk417/hk417-a2-20/technical-data. html if it is a posible... http://www.waltherarms.com/g36/

Page 187 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 17 May 2015 03:27:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I mentioned this before, but:

SRM 1216 and Crye Precisions Six12 http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/21/gun-makers-push-the-limits-on-tactical-shotgun-de sign.html

SRM 1216 is like a souped up, 4x4 shot version of the 2x7 Keltec KSG/the Neostead

Crye Six12 is a six-shot, semi auto version of the M26/Masterkey

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Marcho on Mon, 18 May 2015 17:51:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The latest model of the Finnish service rifles, the RK95/M95/SAKO M95 Why? When I was in the service as a Military Police I had this rifle in my name. It differs much from the RK62 or/and the M76 model, for example the standard folding stock, better iron sights and night sights, can use various optics and accessories (I've used unknown tactical light, might have been Surefire's something something... Yet again unknown IR laser pointer, Aimpoint CompM4, Trijicon ACOG and Patria VV2000 passive night sights during my service) with the use of RIS blocks (On top and left side of the rifle with side mount rails and RIS blocks under/on the sides (next to) the front sights), can fire rifle grenades, can be fitted with suppressors and in overall it's much more modular than the previous models. Only the shit thing is that the folding stock might get loose, but only if you rape it that is. The gun's butt also features (like the previous ones) a small space for a cleaning kit. The gun is reliable, accurate, modular, has good penetration and stopping powers and it's from my country.

Here's a pic of the rifle with little candy attached to it, notice the cheek raiser on the gun's butt. I really think it might be a good addition to the current arsenal that AFS has to offer, great job on the mod by the way.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Wed, 20 May 2015 06:19:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message looking at the wikipedia article for the AK-12. It says there's a 5.56x45 NATO variant, and that all variants shoot at 1000 rpm in burstfire.

Also doublecheck the 7.62x51 variant, i'm not sure you meant to have it at 50 rounds

Page 188 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Marcho on Wed, 20 May 2015 14:44:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AK-12 is quite different from the RK95. The AK-12 can switch calibers by changing the barrel and they have manufactured different lighter and heavier variants of the same gun, RK95 is a basic infantry rifle stuck with the basic 7.62 x 39mm round unless any heavy modifications are done in the weapon. RK95 has a rare export model though that is meant to only fire the NATO standard 5.56 x 45mm round. What comes to the AK-12's RPM with different calibers rounds.. I'm not sure how the AK-12 is designed, but usually heavier the round makes the gun fire much slower thus effecting the bullet's accuracy and velocity or jamming it entirely. AK family is well known for it's reliability and the parts, so I wouldn't see any problem any AK rifle firing a heavier caliber with any SIGNIFICANT changes in the firing rate, but mainly larger changes being in the accuracy, stopping power and the velocity (Of course, if the barrel, chamber and the ejection system are big enough for the round that is, otherwise boom, jam, ejection problems or the round ricocheting at 50 meters.) The only magazine I've seen for the RK95 to be fed is the basic 30 round box magazine and it can use most AK47/AKM magazines. In short: The Russian AK-12 (+ the variants) and The Finnish RK95 TP/SAKO M95/M95 are different.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Thu, 21 May 2015 01:35:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You still say that the AK-12s can be converted between different calibers, and that's a feature that's yet to be implimented.

Also, 5.56x45 ak-12s DO exist.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Thu, 21 May 2015 12:38:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Working on graphics for the Sig MPX and MCX right now - which has lead to some changes and questions:

1) New grip and telescopic stock for the original in-mod MPX. 2) There will be no folding stock MCX as it duplicates the functionality of the telescopic stock. Yes I know the current sales brochure only illustrates the folding stock, but an earlier one from 2013 shows the stock from the MPX as an option. 3) Which side does the MCX-PSB's stock fold? Does it actually make sense to allow players to fire with the PSB stock folded? Is this for storage purposes only?

Page 189 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Marcho on Thu, 21 May 2015 14:29:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm not quite sure who you tried to forward the message originally about the AK-12.. I might have misunderstood, my bad. And the AK-12 can be converted for real (not in-game if that's what you meant), the special divisions such as Spetnaz, OMON, Alpha, MVD and other divisions will use the light (highly convertible version, once the prototype phase is finished) to use the rifle more efficient in urban combat and cqb, using it in smaller caliber kills the recoil and makes the rifle more controllable. The heavy version of AK-12 is meant to be the master key for any Russian battling in large forests, rocky hills or any harsh battlefield. It's the basic service rifle equipped to fire the larger 7.62×51 mm round. And yeah... the 5.56x45 mm do exist, but still in prototype.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Thu, 21 May 2015 17:01:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I wouldn't consider the RK 95 a particularly modular rifle. There are less rail add-ons available than for your run-of-the-mill Kalashnikov, most notably no railed handguard.

I once also asked for the RK 95, but there was some reason why Wil didn't want to include it. Can't remember what it was, though. Might have been something to do with how the gun is essentially just a high quality AK and nothing more. Still, I agree it would be nice to have it included in the mod. I might be way off here, but I don't think there's really that many end-game 7.62x39 assault rifles apart from the AEK-973.

Talking of which, according to Wikipedia it seems that last year the Russian Army accepted a modernized version of the AEK-971, the A-545 into service for evaluation. This new version looks pretty neat.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 21 May 2015 20:54:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Wil473 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2015 14:383) Which side does the MCX-PSB's stock fold? Does it actually make sense to allow players to fire with the PSB stock folded? Is this for storage purposes only?Left-folding and as much sense as it makes with any gun, i.e. should work mechanically. Btw, have you found a way to actually use the brace for it's designed purpose or just what everyone and their dog use it for?

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Page 190 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by M16AMachinegun on Fri, 22 May 2015 02:21:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Hazapuza: why do you keep mentioning the RK 95? I'm talking about the AK-12, the one that's already in the mod

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Fri, 22 May 2015 11:11:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Uh, because Marcho was talking about it. What makes you think I was replying to you?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Fri, 22 May 2015 11:31:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You mentioned the AK-12 and I hadn't properly read the thread, my bad!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Sun, 24 May 2015 12:40:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrot wrote on Thu, 21 May 2015 15:54Wil473 wrote on Thu, 21 May 2015 14:383) Which side does the MCX-PSB's stock fold? Does it actually make sense to allow players to fire with the PSB stock folded? Is this for storage purposes only?Left-folding and as much sense as it makes with any gun, i.e. should work mechanically. Btw, have you found a way to actually use the brace for it's designed purpose or just what everyone and their dog use it for?

My plan is to give the PSB variants stats between a plain AR pistol and a SBR - with the added bonus of allowing one-handed use. To avoid watering down the "uniqueness" of the Sigs and to avoid redoing both systems of attachment bitmasks (again) the PSB will not be a general AR attachment as has been mused.

EDIT: Sig MPX and MCX graphics done, now the task of stats.

I should have an Experimental UC-1.13 v5.xx out the door next weekend with: - new Sig's - AR type weapons in 7.62x39mm and .338LM - new reduced AP penalties

Later in the summer will be an experimental release with new ammo (which will cause map issues which is why I didn't want to make those changes yet). Once the ammo additions are done there

Page 191 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit will be experimental versions of AFS and DL-1.13 out as well.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 25 May 2015 03:14:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message More rails for your lmgs! M60E6, used by danish forces

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:36:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message .410 Enfield. Because why not. Ishapore Enfield .410

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 04 Jun 2015 13:17:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf-performance-ammunition/500-round-case-762x54r-203-grai n-soft-point-wolf-wpa-military- cl i think this can be usefull http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/16/lehigh-defense-introduced-close-quarters-fragme nting-bullet/ .308 hyper velocity cqb ammo http://www.lehighdefense.com/products/308-78gr-cq-bullet .308 hv cqb ammo 2

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:53:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Could you please make the AUG-A3 42 round magazine an attachment? it's cumbersome trying to stock ammo for it since it's inefficient to store 42 round magazines.

Alternatively, could you make the 42 round magazines not take so much space?

Page 192 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:48:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M16AMachinegun wrote on Sun, 07 June 2015 13:53Could you please make the AUG-A3 42 round magazine an attachment? it's cumbersome trying to stock ammo for it since it's inefficient to store 42 round magazines.

Alternatively, could you make the 42 round magazines not take so much space?

The AK magazine pocket should allow carriage of the "oversized" 42 round pocket. That's why the AR upper LBE's have these magazine pockets instead of the normal AR ones.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by jarodchen on Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:22:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about this:

DSR-50

Panzerfaust 3/ RGW 90 /RGW 60

Crye Six12

Liemke 60mm Mortar

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 14 Jun 2015 07:46:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:That's why the AR upper LBE's have these magazine pockets instead of the normal AR ones.

I'll keep that in mind when i can get your mod working again

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 14 Jun 2015 19:36:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/sovietbalkan/russia/drift.html cs gas hand grenade wp region,

Page 193 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit cheap he grenade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RG-42 http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/europe/index.html more interesting items are here on this link

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 21 Jun 2015 06:17:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message New ammo type and weapons:

6.5x25 CBJ Specifically designed to penetrate armor, and does so much better than even 7.62x51 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/07/08/the-amazing-6-5x25mm-cbj/

Weapons: CBJ-MS PDW / submachine gun (Sweden) http://world.guns.ru/smg/swed/cbj-ms-pdw-e.html Brügger & Thomet MP9 (Switzerland) http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=625 Steyr AUG Para (Austria) http://www.cbjtech.com/sida.asp?sida=3_CBJ%20MS [Mentioned in bullet drop chart] SIG pistol http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=625 Glock pistol http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=625 "Those tested to date range from the Steyr AUG SMG to SIG Sauer and Glock pistols."

Seems like a lot of 9mm weapons could be converted to 6.5CBJ

Not exactly worth it, though, considering AET ammo exists, but it's interesting

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:43:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message maybe not typical for arulco or danubia,but this can be bring to home from b.field. ex-soldiers are now farmers .. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/repeating-rifle/fr/lebel-e.html http://world.guns.ru/rifle/repeating-rifle/fr/mas-36-e.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:37:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.csla.cz/zbrane/pancerovky/rpg75.htm

Page 194 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Caliber 68 mm total length of the weapon (marching position / Martial position) 633/890 mm Length 270 mm Weight of missile weapons Weight 3.2 kg 0.82 kg projectile initial velocity 189 m / s The maximum range of 750 m Mirena distance shooting skill at skirmishing 300 m armor 300 mm http://www.ray-vin.com/bmr/bmr.htm

.22 wmr upper part for ar15 platform

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:07:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message jarodchen wrote on Sat, 13 June 2015 15:22How about this:

DSR-50

Panzerfaust 3/ RGW 90 /RGW 60

Crye Six12

Liemke 60mm Mortar

Panzerfaust 3 with dual-mode warhead is being worked on right now. Not sure if it is going to be a system of one-shots or a simple reloadable.

Liemke 60mm Mortal looks interesting as an extremely lightweight late game mortar.

The Crye Six 12 has been under consideration for a while now. Probably have to get around to doing a freehand graphic (or mangle some existing graphic) for it though.

With proof of .22WMR AR-upper in the world, will be adding generic set to the mods in the usual rifle/carbine/SBR/pistol.

The 6.5x25 CBJ guns have a better chance of being included than some of the more obscure vintage guns...

Page 195 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:48:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message night sight for ak rifles

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:28:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Found something crazy. Convert your AR-15 to an... MG-34! Nuts! Too bad it's semi-auto but maybe we can bend the rules. ;)

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 25 Jun 2015 20:12:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The page actually says you get FUN!-mode if you use an FA lower.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:16:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Saiga MK-107/AK-15.

A semi-automatic civilian version of the AK-107, with the same balanced action/counter-recoil system. Could be interesting as a high-quality early/mid-game rifle...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 27 Jul 2015 19:19:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gun balancing request:

Make Mini-14/-30-68/M14/M21 utterly shit when it comes to reliability and increase difficulty to maintain, in exchange for being a lower 'coolness' factor

Page 196 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subsequently, reduce the amount AR-types (specifically Direct impingement, but idk about piston) are affected by dirt

Evidence: http://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/ https://www.full30.com/video/6618755f336970e55e6c50c1fe894ff8 https://www.full30.com/video/9eef6b3a4eb6c8846a4c8dc4b8968bc4

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:35:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the claims of that article were spot-on, but I don't see why that would necessarily apply to the Mini-series. Care to explain?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Mon, 27 Jul 2015 22:54:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message mini-14/-30/-68 use the same action as the M1A, downscaled for the smaller calibers, and therefore share similar issues

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Hazapuza on Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:49:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message But based on that article, the problems seem to be mainly caused by shitty manufacturing quality. And as far as I understand, Mini-14 doesn't even have that much in common with M14, apart from the locking mechanism and general looks.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 28 Jul 2015 04:42:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The action's way too open to be reliable in a combat environment. Reliability's fine but dirt buildup quickly shuts things down. M14 and Mini-14 alike.

It's dangerous to go alone. Here, take this M1A sand test.

Page 197 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:20:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ha, i already posted that link, Slax

But yeah, my point is once the M1A/M14/M21/Mini-14/-30/-68 gets dirty it locks up like crazy, i think changing the in-game values to reflect this AND ALSO lowering its coolness gives it a niche as a finicky, early-game source of 7.62x51mm ammo

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:58:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Requesting SCAR-20 reskin for the SCAR-H SV, OR a separate variant with a range that's comparable to other 7.62x51 semi auto sniper rifles in terms of range. Seriously, 550 range on a 7.62x51 sniper rifle with a 20" barrel?

Nah, we don't need a reskin. But why does the SCAR-H SV only have a range of 550?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:40:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just checked the SCAR-H SV in stock v1.13, it has a range of 670... so I don't actually have an explanation of the current range. I'm guessing a previous reblance pass years ago.

I'll look into increasing dirt effects on the M14/21, Mini-14/30/68 in the next AFS experimental.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by M16AMachinegun on Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:53:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message yay, 10mm SIGs! http://www.gunsandammo.com/first-look/sig-sauer-10mm-p220-pistols-10mm-elite-performance-a mmo/ http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/aboutus/news/SIG%20SAUER%20Offers%20Selection%20of%2 0P220%20Pistols%20in%2010mm.pdf

Page 198 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:44:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

steyr manlicher ssg-08 aviable .308/.300wm/.338 lapua mangum http://www.steyrarms.com/products/sporting-rifles/steyr-ssg-08/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:50:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message caliber conversion kit for some pistols in .40s&w to .357 sig & back from .357 sig to .40 s&w if posible

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:01:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message An older piece of 12g goodness.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:59:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message magnum power from bohemia land

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 06 Sep 2015 07:49:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message h&k mp 53 civ. variant ar pistol http://www.kellyenterprises.net/firearms/kellyenterprises-omega-german-rollerlock-pistols-rifles-an d-sbr-s/kellyentepris es-omega-ke-53k-5-56-pistol-pkg-detail.html http://www.kellyenterprises.net/firearms/kellyenterprises-omega-german-rollerlock-pistols-rifles-an d-sbr-s/kellyenterpri ses-omega-ke-91k-308-rcm-ptr-pistol-pkg-detail.html

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g3 ar pistol

mp53 sbr http://www.kellyenterprises.net/firearms/kellyenterprises-omega-german-rollerlock-pistols-rifles-an d-sbr-s/vke-53-5-56-p istol-w-rcm-cold-hammer-forged-barrel-detail.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 12 Sep 2015 09:04:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

http://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/pak1-2/

http://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/par1-guns/

http://heizerdefense.com/category/products/guns/ps1-guns/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DoubleTap_pistol posted here only to show them ... first is7.62x39 single shot, second is5.56x45 single shot,3rd is .45 long colt/.410g single shot,4rd is double shot for .45 acp or 9x19

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:43:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.efkfiredragon.com/beretta-taurus-357sig-conversion-from-40sandw.html .357 sig barrel conv. kit for beretta 96 http://www.efkfiredragon.com/browning-hi-power-357sig-conversion-from-40sandw.html .357 sig for browning high power .40

Page 200 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:26:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This thing seems promising.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Fri, 02 Oct 2015 18:33:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Something for the cops.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 03 Oct 2015 09:58:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://hi-desertdog.com/scar-16-300-aac-blackout-barrel-13-sbr.html http://hi-desertdog.com/scar-16-300aac-blackout-barrel-sightless.html

.300 blackout barrels for fn scar ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 19:45:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wil473:can you please add this one ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_Mle_1950

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by johnson on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:43:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Am I correct to assume that all 3 mods use the same weapon\item list? If so I would like to request a documentation of possible merge options. I am thinking something along the lines of this. (I am asking because I can't make the Gameboy + Copper Wire to work)

Page 201 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:05:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

pump action shogun with magazine ... http://www.tacticalimports.ca/sap6-blemished-p-405.html

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 01:35:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message johnson wrote on Sun, 11 October 2015 15:43Am I correct to assume that all 3 mods use the same weapon\item list? If so I would like to request a documentation of possible merge options. I am thinking something along the lines of this. (I am asking because I can't make the Gameboy + Copper Wire to work)

Yeah, I've been meaning to update the FAQ's including the item FAQ... now that being said, the Gameboy + Copper Wire is not an original Jagged Alliance 2 merger. I believe you are wanting to create the Display Unit (for the X-Ray Detector). It is over a decade and a half on, but marking it as a spoiler none the less: Toggle SpoilerCopper Wire + LameBoy Display

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 27 Oct 2015 23:13:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i hope you like this one .. here is models aviable for sale http://www.prodej-zbrani.cz/AR15/PROARMS-ARMORY/

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sun, 01 Nov 2015 17:44:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message So, someone decided to modernize the FG-42. 3 variants.

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Pretty dang sweet.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 06 Nov 2015 20:25:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

http://www.guns.com/review/2011/12/09/mechtech-carbine-conversion-kits-for-glocks-and-1911s/

they are ugly like hell,but it is a chance for glock's & 1911 pistols gain some more range to shoot ...

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:39:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It would seem that most (if not all?) AKs come with a tiny cleaning kit in the stock. May wanna take that into consideration.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:52:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message my vote going to resurect one idea from past,black market guns for brothers santos ... maybe limited to nam era & ww2 surplus goodies

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:14:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/civil/usa/msar-stg-556-rifle-e.html

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these two is clones based on steyr aug[aviable in 6.8 spc],i think it can be nice have steyr aug clone in 6.8 spc caliber

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:43:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SS191 Tracer 5.72x28 tracer round or SS193 Sub Sonic 5.7x28 http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/foghorn/gun-review-ruger-mini-14-tactical-in-300-blk/ can you please look at this?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:50:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message S&W police grenades!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Slax on Sat, 09 Apr 2016 11:37:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Fancy pre-kitted AR. YEEHAW!

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Sat, 04 Jun 2016 00:17:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Damn, haven't been around the forums for about a year or so, but I see that Wolf is still dropping

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One suggestion from me: Falkor Defense Petra https://falkordefense.com/rifles/petra-carbon-fiber/

Nothing special, but seems cool.

Is Wil still developing this mod?

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Parkan on Sat, 18 Jun 2016 19:40:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I think the first priority-is fixing mod bugs.There are som bugs with attachments,armor properties and few other.I think Wil say some word about progress soon.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by ElWrobel on Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:41:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Damn, just noticed this is an also an item request thread. I'd like to request AIMNAS items for AFS, like the multitool, incendiary/thermite grenades, willie petes, combining vests with uniforms and more 12G and 9mm ammo types, that would be great : D

@Parkan I hope so, this is the best mod for JA2 IMO, even though I usually have to tweak each release a bit to my taste.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 29 Jul 2016 07:19:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 45 round's & 90 round's drum for 5.45x39 for wp guns,c-mag adaptor for 5.45x39 for use in west made gun's

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:02:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As I didn't want to triple post in the AFS thread, and it seemed more relevant here just a quick update - contrary to my initial plans I'm delaying the start of reworking AFS into the next UC-1.13, I decided to actually try a campaign and found that the anti-vehicle balance is a little off (also the

Page 205 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit AT hand grenades don't seem to work against jeeps in-game). At the same time I've decided to add two new "systems" to the mod:

1) 40mm Alsetex Cougar MS grenade launcher - magazine fed (sort-of) launcher - one round without the magazine attachment (there is a technical reason why this had to be done, I'll explain later...) - magazine attachment adds four more and these may be pre-attached (allowing compact storage of four rounds and quick reload of four) - right now it all works except when the magazine is "unloaded," then all but one round from the magazine end up as loose inventory, but I figured out how to get reloading to work - may form the basis of a revamp of the 20mm launchers to allow mixing of grenade types

2) MSBS - if I'm going to add an entire family of conventional-bullpup convertible weapons to the mod(s), I better do it early on - based on the graphics in the Jane's article it should be relatively easy to get the scale right (ie. scale for max pixels in the DMR version, then the rest are just barrel length, muzzle, and magazine edits) - finally a non-Steyr AUG using the 42 round magazine (I'm not going to worry about it being an inaccurate depection of magazine capacity, the LMG versions will be in 42) - coversion between conventional/bullpup via system similar to the AR reciever system already in the mod, though disassembly will dump the barrel too - conversion between roles (carbine, DMR, LMG) via barrel selection - low AP cost so it can be done during turn based - may throw in the launcher to be complete - may also throw in 7.62x39mm and 7.62x51mm options as well

EDIT: and yeah, the MSBS has been on the radar for a while, but the post in AIMNAS' suggestion thread got me moving.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by gizin on Thu, 01 Sep 2016 15:58:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i think hs10 shotgun would be good to see becouse is funnny shotgun that can be made 1 handed with shortest version ks 23 drozd is also so cool becouse every one want get 4 gauge shotgun slug in head dont know if someone mentioned it before

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 15 Sep 2016 11:08:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 206 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit there is pt 91 rifle family line http://www.ptr91.com/products/,many variants to choice ... rifles in h&k g3 style for caliber .308 or 7.62x39

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:23:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.czechweapons.com/en/civilian-firearms/ http://www.czechweapons.com/en/czw-127/ basic model is in 12.7x108 also variant in .50bmg is posible for order

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Mastermaul on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:44:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hello! Long time lurker here. Been playing 1.13 for a few years but just decided to try out AFS, impressed with the variety.

One thing which I think could add an interesting dynamic is the Barrett XM109, a semi-precision anti-material rifle that fires 25mm grenades. I suppose there's already something similar with the QLZ-87B, but I think the XM109 offers a more familiar western styling on the same concept, and Barrett seems a tad under-represented.

Another thing that i'm surprised to see absent, given the incredible variety of grenade launchers, is the pump action 40mm China Lake launcher. Would be a nice bit of flavor, getting the same satisfaction from chambering the next round on a shotgun, except with a high explosive shell.

I had some photos but I guess I can't post links as a new member, sorry.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:56:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mastermaul wrote on Tue, 27 September 2016 03:44Hello! Long time lurker here. Been playing 1.13 for a few years but just decided to try out AFS, impressed with the variety.

One thing which I think could add an interesting dynamic is the Barrett XM109, a semi-precision anti-material rifle that fires 25mm grenades. I suppose there's already something similar with the QLZ-87B, but I think the XM109 offers a more familiar western styling on the same concept, and Barrett seems a tad under-represented.

Another thing that i'm surprised to see absent, given the incredible variety of grenade launchers, is

Page 207 of 211 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit the pump action 40mm China Lake launcher. Would be a nice bit of flavor, getting the same satisfaction from chambering the next round on a shotgun, except with a high explosive shell.

I had some photos but I guess I can't post links as a new member, sorry.

Back when I was importing the QLZ-87B from IOV the XM109 was available as well, though it was left out because the High Velocity 25x59mm rounds seemed to be going nowhere - still hasn't gone as far towards adoption as the 25x40mm in the XM25. Also I was unsure how the QLZ-87B was going to be implemented in-game (is it a gun or is it a launcher?) That said it wouldn't take much to add another "gun" with exploding ammo.

A four shot pump action launcher, the EX41 also from IOV, was also imported in some time ago. It is only available used from BR's and from Devin. Oddly I suspect there are more XM109's in existence than those four shot pump action 40mm launchers.

EDIT: UC-1.13 item mod work has again stalled due to a "new" gun. Over the last few years a certain gun's absence from UC has bugged me. No more - the Nagant revolver (with the ability to attach a suppressor and horrible ready cost) is now in the base mod.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Mastermaul on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:43:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sorry, I must have missed the EX41. BRs doesn't seem to sell used launchers for me.

Also, is it a prerequisite for the weapons to have generally seen use in real life then? You're right, the XM109 and all that are kind of special snowflakes. Information on the XM109 is rather vague, I've seen places claim the Ukrainian army has used it but no real substantiation. Barrett has also been quiet on the matter. Still, there's guns like the OICW and G11 in the game, and I like the idea of busting through a window with a 25mm tear gas round (bit of creative liberty there maybe) from a distance and hitting anyone who runs out of the building with a high explosive round.

Also, on the subject of revolvers, how about the Chiappa Rhino series? A DA revolver firing from the 6 o' clock cylinder designed by the same guy as the Model 6 Unica. Much more available here in America and for much, much cheaper. I like the 40DS the most myself but if you wanted a way to set it apart from other revolvers, the 60DS version has an integrated top and bottom picatinny rail. Some of the .357 models come with a 9x19mm conversion cylinder. I know the Mateba already comes with a rail, but perhaps it could be on an earlier coolness level, with a higher AP penalty since it's not an autorevolver?

Are you interested in LBE requests? I have one in particular.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:15:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:19:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mastermaul wrote on Tue, 27 September 2016 14:43Also, is it a prerequisite for the weapons to have generally seen use in real life then?

Not really, considering I just added a DRDC/Colt Canada demonstrator (it is not even a prototype) - it caught my interest and it happened to use existing in-game ammo and the "magazine" system for launchers that I had just got working.

As an example of what may get in-mod, the Chippa Rhino has more going for it than another AR or AK clone: - uses existing .38SPC/.357mag and 9x19mm six round ammunition items (these are in-game but there are comparatively few guns using these, I think only one in-mod for the later) - fills niche of a rail covered revolver (I don't think there is anything else in mod that has this) - the basic graphic is readily adaptable (specifically, from two base graphics, one black, one chrome, I can get nine items out of it)

Along the same lines a 40mm Russian illumination round fills a gap in the mod as well.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Mastermaul on Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:15:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I see.

One thing I found strange was that the Stetchkin APS has a shoulder stock/holster combo, but the Mauser C96 does not. Though, I haven't tried to put the C96 in said stock, so forgive me if the capability is already there.

Another small thing about the C96, the C96 sprite still has the M712 fire selector switch. That's a super small detail that I don't think is even noticeable in the smaller inventory sprite though.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 01 Oct 2016 21:08:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Michael Gal on Sun, 02 Oct 2016 00:00:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nice find, a modern riot gun.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Mastermaul on Mon, 03 Oct 2016 02:48:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about a De Lisle carbine? It could be an early-mid weapon for stealthier characters. It uses already existing 1911 magazines (they were slightly modified on the real rifle, but I believe there are versions out there that use normal ones), would be extremely quiet (but AP heavy) due to the bolt action and inherently subsonic .45ACP ammunition, and isn't typically something you would mount a scope on (so it would be less useful in the later game). There are even some out there with folding stocks. Would be a fitting addition to a game with a lot of sneaky commando-type stuff in it already, a long gun to complement the welrod already in the game.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Michael Gal on Mon, 03 Oct 2016 09:31:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That's a good idea as Valkrie arms do make a modern reproduction.

Subject: Re: Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 03 Oct 2016 15:30:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Did up graphics for: - Chiappa Rhino: 2, 4, and 6 inch barrels, 9x19mm (black) and .357Mag/.38Special (in Chrome) - M04 illumination grenade

Imported from IoV: - XM109 - PAW-20 - De Lisle carbine - XM500 (it turns out the one I've been using is just a painted M82A2) - magazines for XM109 and PAW-20

Right, I now need to really get back on track on UC-1.13 production. Also, this thread has

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EDIT: replacement The 2nd Weapons & Items Requests for UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS

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