AGUA DULCE TOWN COUNCIL Regular Meeting of Wednesday, November 20, 2019 APPROVED MINUTES ***Due to scheduling conflicts, this meeting is one week later than usual*** Agua Dulce Women’s Club 33201 Agua Dulce Canyon Rd, Agua Dulce, CA Council Members Present: President-Don Henry (DH), Secretary-Mary Johnson (MJ), Treasurer-Troy Fosberg (TF) arrived at 6:40 PM, Clerk-Ed Porter (EP) arrived at 7:00 PM, Candy Clemente (CC), Scott Keller (SK), Lou Vince (LV) Council Members Absent: Community Members: About 150 community members in attendance inside and on porch. PA system inside and outside.

TOPIC/DISCUSSION MOTION RESULT/ DECISION ADMINISTRATIVE MEETING: Regular Council Operations: 6:30 PM: 1. Call to order by DH at 6:33 PM 2. MSP: Move to Approve Agenda as Submitted M: CC 5-0-0 S: MJ 3. MSP: Move to Approve Minutes of Regular Meeting of October 9, 2019 as submitted M: LV 5-0-0 S: CC 4. Council Reports: A. President Report i. General: ii. Outgoing Correspondence: a. Letter to Zoe International outlining community concerns regarding their project sent 10/16/19 b. Letter to Dept of Public Health/Environmental Health regarding the annual fee for conventional OWTS sent 10/16/19 iii. Incoming Correspondence: See Community Meeting, Item 10.A. B, C., and D. a. Reply from Deputy Director of Public Works regarding Safe Clean Water Program A. Future agenda item: Bruce Hamamoto of Public Works and Santa Clara River Watershed Area Steering Committee possibly January 2020 iv. Miscellaneous Incoming & Webmail: a. Agenda Request: Acton Agua Dulce Unified School District: Superintendent King: standing agenda item, monthly “State of the District” b. Agenda Request: Graffiti Abatement Program Manager: Ari DeChellis possibly January 2020 c. Agenda Request: Water Talks: Integrated Regional Water Management Plan, Heather Merenda, Environmental Services, City of Santa Clarita: Future Agenda Item d. Webmail: Code Violation Inquiry at 4965 Sweetwater Drive (referred to Regional Planning) B. Secretary Report: Liability Insurance policy reinstatement C. Treasurer’s Report i. Election Committee Account: a. Beginning Balance: $2,239.00 b. Candidate fees deposited $200.00 c. Ending Balance: $2,439.00 ii. General Account a. Beginning Balance: $2,314.25 Page 1 of 6

b. State Farm Insurance paid: $252.96 c. California Bank Overdraft Fee refund deposited: $12.05 d. Ending Balance: $2,073.34 iii. Combined Account Ending Balance: $4,512.34 D. Association of Rural Town Councils: October 30, 2019 i. County Housing Initiatives, LA County Community Climate Action Plan, Clean Power Alliance, Senate Bill 100-CA Renewables Portfolio Standard Program, ARTC Election 2020, Public At in Private Development. . E. Other: Request from iLEAD Agua Dulce 6th Grade project Birth of Democracy. Speak to students regarding local government and any ideas on how the students can get involved. MJ will attend. COMMUNITY MEETING: Reports and Presentations: 7:00 PM: Open to Public 5. Call to order by DH at 7:00 PM. Pledge of Allegiance & Flag Salute led by LV and Moment of Silence in honor of the shooting tragedy at Saugus High School 6. Agency Reports A. California Highway Patrol/Cops Team: Officer Hallgren: Absent (arrived later during SCE presentation—no report) B. County Sheriff Resident Deputy: Deputy Martinez: Regarding PSPS events, be prepared and look out for your neighbors. C. Los Angeles Dept/Community Service Rep: Maria Grycan: Absent: October Stats: 5 fires: 1 brush fire ¼ acre, 3 vehicle fires, 1 trash fire. 31 EMS, 10 good intent. D. Acton-Agua Dulce Library: Librarian Jim Wall: Absent: Announcements: Gingerbread Geometry, Saturday, Dec 7, 12-2 PM. Red Cross Blood Drive, December 27, 9 am to 4 pm. SCE PSPS resulted in the Library being closed 10/28, 10/30, and 10/31. Bootlegger Circuit. E. Other 7. Fifth District Report: Stephanie English: Nicole Vartanian: Supervisor Barger motion supporting public health that Meal Service Delivery should be sealed. Rising mortality rate among the homeless population. Supervisor Barger is aware of the PSPS problems. The Supervisor contacted the Chairman of SCE to come to a meeting to answer questions and concerns. 8. CA 38th Assembly District Assemblymember Christy Smith: Letter sent to Governor Newsome expressing grave concerns regarding SCE’s PSPS asking for reassessment and immediate action, citing business losses and hardships for residents. In attendance to listen to residents and concerns. 9. CA 21st Senate District Senator Scott Wilk: Regarding PSPS-The “new normal” is not acceptable. Stated the PSPS investigation launched by the California Public Utilities Commission is ludicrous since it is the CPUC’s job to know what SCE is doing. Asked for an independent state auditor to investigate. Without a federal representative because of the resignation of Congresswoman Katie Hill, he requested FEMA assistance. SCE is reconsidering claims. If you had a claim denied, resubmit. For those charged for service during PSPS, SCE has indicated those bills will be corrected. He and Assemblyman Lackey rented a generator for a local resident on oxygen. He indicated his feeling that “PSPS is PSBS.” He understands the community’s pain and he will listen and take action. 10. CA 36th Assembly District Assemblymember Tom Lackey: Brandon Roque, Filed Representative: Attending the meeting to listen and will take back comments and concerns to Assemblyman Lackey. 11. Presentations/Discussions: A. SCE: Report on PSPS events: October 10-October 11, October 24-October 25, October 28, October 30-October 31. Liz Seelman, SCE Local Public Affairs, Erik Takayesu, Vice President (Transmission, Substations, & Operations), Robert Quintero, Director, Local Public Affairs, Bob Stiens, Local Public Affairs: DH read the list of concerns submitted to SCE after the PSPS events: communication failures-internet, cell service, digital phone & TV service, access to well water, extended length of outages, impacts to population reliant on powered medical equipment, impacts to schools, business losses, emergency service communication failures, impacts to livestock, perishable items, inconsistent notification process, home insurance consequences, property value decreases, lack of heat during cold temps, costs of being prepared, continuing maintenance, oversight, well being and security of residents are jeopardized, Page 2 of 6

consequences to SCE if PSPS were eliminated, and what triggers a PSPS. Liz Seelman: Significant impacts in October with 4 PSPS events and acknowledged the hardships to the community. SCE provided a generator and supplies to the Agua Dulce Women’s Club for public use. A water tanker to be provided in the future. Claims are being re-evaluated and reviewing billing statements. Goal is to reduce necessity and reduce impacts. Erik Takayesu: Agua Dulce is Tier 3 fire risk—high fire danger. SCE is placing weather stations and hi-def cameras in community. Increased vegetation management, sectionalizing of circuits and insulating wires. Maintenance outages will continue as SCE hardens the grid over the next few years. Bob Stiens: October had extreme red flag warnings. 3 categories of information determine the need for PSPS: 1. Weather information from SCE’s weather stations and other data such as the condition of potential fuel. 2. Computer modeling. 3. Field crews with handheld weather stations with real time statistics and LA County emergency centers. Notification process has improved. 4-7 days out, monitors are in the get ready stage. 72 hours notification to public safety partners, sheriff, fire, etc. 48 hours notification to customers. Registered critical care customers are notified by phone 2 times. If no answer, SCE does a personal visit. Website has been updated. Better maps. You can enter an address to see if you are affected. Better notification for those with a master meter. Zip code alerts and partnering with Next Door app. Telecommunications companies get early notification so they can prepare for outages. Community Comments: 30+ attendees spoke to voice their concerns.  CC indicated are not a new occurrence to Agua Dulce. Questioned if SCE is loyal to their customers or investors.  Seniors citizens not physically able to get fully prepared. Looking for access to list of local residents dependent on power medical devices.  SCE subjecting community to third world country conditions. Limit outages to 6 hours. Liability for losses during PSPS.  PSPS brings hardships: no heat, no security, loss of food and medications. Many people can’t afford generators. Anxiety and emotional trauma when the wind blows. Schools and businesses forced to close. SCE Tips page needs to be updated.  Has something changed in the infrastructure that is not disclosed? Lower voltage with the existing technology. Need for dedicated well pump service at Agua Dulce Airport for helicopter fire fighting ability. Water haulers have issues with CARB (older non-compliant trucks) and question of renewal of Conditional Use Permits. People may accidentally start fires because of PSPS conditions.  Victim of Tick Fire plans to rebuild. Has 13 acres with a 200’ cleared perimeter. No power, no sprinklers, no ability to fight fire. Home destroyed.  Another victim of Tick Fire with brush clearance-Home destroyed because of no power for well water. Horrible precedent for the country. SCE does not give people a fighting chance. No one from SCE has reached out.  Communication was poor. Generators not affordable for all. Vegetation both above and below power lines need to be cleared. Malibu area was only without power for a short time.  DWP is not turning off power  Santa Ana winds nothing new to area. No communication means to way to get help. Unacceptable.  Tick Fire started by an outdoor bbq in use because of no power in house. SCE is responsible for Tick Fire.  SCE has responsibility to deliver safe electricity. SCE had corporate offices raided in 1997 looking or evidence that SCE was responsible for a 1996 fire. Class action suit may be required.  SCE has been powering Southern California for over 100 years. Up until now, power was not shut off for longer than necessary…never preemptively. SCE is a monopoly. It takes its profits from ratepayers, not just investors.  SCE tree trimming problems. Oak tree branches left on power lines after trimming. Loss of power hampered evacuations of people and animals during the Tick Fire.  Is SCE protecting their customers or executives getting bonuses? Santa Ana winds are not new to us. There are Page 3 of 6

many reasons for fires in our area. We need news, we need the ability to communicate via cell phone and computer. SCE leaves us helpless. We need a change to the PSPS policy TODAY not in 10 years.  PSPS is unacceptable. Third world country situation. Who oversees SCE?  Senator Wilk replied that CPUC has oversight but is an outdated agency that needs reform. CPUC needs to determine if it is more dangerous to shut off power or keep the power on.  A daughter of a founding family in Agua Dulce indicates fire insurance is getting expensive and many are cancelling policies in our area. Agua Dulce is self-sufficient if given power and water.  Home based businesses are being denied claims for losses associated with PSPS. A family member on a CPAP machine suffered a heart attack during PSPS. Was this caused because of no power to use CPAP machine?  Shutoffs by zip code don’t work. Agua Dulce’s zip, 91390 is shared with Saugus.  “Be Prepared” is stock answer. Older resident stuck in bed. Seniors are at great risk. Generators are stolen because electric gates need to be left open during PSPS.  Santa Ana winds blow regularly with no fires. SCE needs to refine the shutoffs to smaller areas. Shutting off the whole town is unacceptable. Agua Dulce is used to fighting the elements. SCE is just another element.  I can monitor and be prepared to take care of himself and his family. Notices come too late. What are the parameters to start PSPS so we can protect ourselves better?  Are all wires being insulated? PSPS is unacceptable. Solar not generating payback. Official in Sacramento must take action to correct the problems with PSPS.  SCE has no idea how we live and how much water it takes for livestock. Will SCE reimburse us for gas to run generators? Wants permission to go “off the grid.”  SCE is stripping us of the ability to take care of ourselves.  SCE must answer to shareholders and insurance companies that insure SCE. Maybe we need our own power company. How about something as simple as a GFI type of device on a larger scale?  PSPS had detrimental negative impacts on businesses. 7 full days of business were taken away over a 3 week period.  Too many notices. Community was kept in a constant state of alarm. SCE suggestion that claims be taken to small claims court is without merit. Small claims don’t apply to fire, flood, earthquakes, and disasters. Bootlegger, Pick, and Shovel circuits all have covered conductors. Why are underground power lines de-energized?  SCE took our water which no one has been able to do. Solar goes down with PSPS. Wants to go off the grid. Generators are being criticized for adding to climate change problems. We are living in third world conditions. Valencia and Palmdale had no PSPS. Not acceptable. SCE Response: Erik Takayesu: Thanked everyone for candid comments and how you want to protect your community. PSPS is not a solution, it’s a tool. Severity of wildfires has increased. Covered conductors will make the grid more tolerant and they can raise wind thresholds. They will take back some good input raised at the meeting: underground lines, sectionalizing, gfi type devices, change in voltage. They have already made some upgrades to the system including fast acting fuses that are more sensitive and will disconnect equipment. Thunderstorms and monsoonal conditions may result in damage to lines from lightening. Bob Stiens: Registered critical care list is sent to LA County Emergency Staff. It may accessible from them. Liz Seelman: This is not our first meeting, nor will it be our last. We will continue to cooperate with the Councils and LA County Staff. Don Henry Response: Requests that SCE not shut off the power until issues are resolved. Be fair and don’t turn the power off. We need assurance of that. People in this community are suffering. 12. President’s Report A. General: B. Incoming Correspondence for Action:

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C. Incoming Correspondence for Notice: i. Reply from Deputy Director of Public Works regarding Safe Clean Water Program ii. Future agenda item: Bruce Hamamoto of Public Works and Santa Clara River Watershed Area Steering Committee (Jan 2020) iii. Regional Planning Plans Filed: a. 8027 Valley Sage Rd, Acton, Wireless Telecommunications Faciltiy, replace 4 antennas and replace 4 radio remote units and add 2 more radio remote units b. 35618 Anthony Rd, installation, operation, and maintenance of a new wireless telecommunication facility c. 8078 Shady Lane, Remodeling and addition of SFR d. 36260 Anthony Rd, Dog training e. 12753 Sierra Highway, Non-Conforming Use Application and clean hands waiver to allow continued operation of a mobile home park and existing residence f. 9661 Sierra Highway, gas station and store business license g. 33638 Agua Dulce Canyon Rd, Special Events Permit-Agua Dulce Airport-Agua Dulce Women’s Club Parade of Tables event December 14, 2019 h. 34289 Rocking Horse Rd, Special Events Permit i. 6931 Sierra Highway, APN 3216005025, Residential Single Family House and Accessory Dwelling Unit D. Public Hearing/Community Meetings: 13. Open Forum: None 14. High Speed Rail Update: Pam Wolter: Palmdale to Burbank section Draft Environmental Review to be released February 2020. Jacqui Ayer will host some workshops on how to respond to DEIR sections in January of 2020. 15. Committee Reports: A. Agua Dulce/Acton Town Council Ad Hoc Committee-Santa Clara River water quality: No meeting dates set yet B. CHP Community Advisory Committee Meeting: Candy Clemente: No meetings currently scheduled C. Bylaws Revision Committee: Lou Vince/Mary Johnson: Working on revision to eliminate Election Committee Treasurer Responsibilities and Change date of Write in Ballot Deadline D. CSD Revision Committee: Mary Johnson/Scott Keller: Inactive E. Election Committee: Chair: Rosie Heffley: i. Election Report: All incumbents (Candy Clemente, Troy Fosberg, Mary Johnson, and Lou Vince) filed applications to rerun. No other candidates filed. Candidates were verified. October 26, 2019 was the final day for write-in candidates. No write-in candidates filed. No formal election was needed. All 4 candidates are declared to be elected and will be installed at the December meeting. ii. Final 2019 Election Committee Financial Report: a. Beginning Balance: $2,239.00 b. Candidate Application Fees: $200 ($50 each from Candy Clemente, Troy Fosberg, Mary Johnson, and Lou Vince ) c. Ending Balance: $2,439.00 iii. In October 2018, the Election Committee bank account was combined with the general Agua Dulce Town Council account at Union Bank. F. Film: Candy Clemente: 24 film shoots last month. Ford vs. Ferrari released. Great shots of Agua Dulce area. G. Land Stewardship: Ed Porter: Nothing to report H. Parks and Trails: Mary Johnson: Nothing to report I. Water Stewardship: Don Henry: Report on Well Yield Meeting October 16, 2019: Rejected based on their research indicating water is not sustainable. Asked to have DPH-EH to issue a statement indicating their full reasons for rejection. Page 5 of 6

J. Ways & Means: Troy Fosberg/Scott Keller: Nothing to report K. Disaster Planning: Gary Hebdon: Request for coverage of ADTC Liability Insurance for Committee: Congrats to the 26 new CERT graduates. All PSPS events will be posted on AD Disaster Planning website L. Acton/Agua Dulce School Board Liaison: Ed Porter: Resigned from AADUSD Board in July of 2019. In his resignation letter to Board, he pointed out 6 reasons for his resignation including health issues. M. Acton Town Council Liaison: Lillian Smith: water, water haulers, PSPS, CHSRA DEIR N. Other: 16. Announcements A. CERT Training ended on November 5, 2019 with 23 new CERT graduates. Thank you to Maria Grycan for instructing. B. Santa Visits Agua Dulce: December 7, 2019, 10 AM to 12 PM, Agua Dulce Women’s Club, 33201 Agua Dulce Canyon Rd, Agua Dulce, CA 91390 C. Next regular ADTC meeting: December 11, 2019, Agua Dulce Women’s Club, 33201 Agua Dulce Canyon Rd, Agua Dulce, CA Meeting will be limited business with a Holiday Celebration. D. Red Cross Blood Drive: December 27, 2019, 9 AM to 4 PM, Acton-Agua Dulce Library, 33792 Crown Valley Rd, Acton, CA 93510 E. Association of Rural Town Councils: Dark until January 29, 2020, Quartz Hill Library Meeting Room, 5040 West Ave M-2 Quartz Hill, CA 93536. 17. Unfinished Business: 18. New Business: 19. Future Agenda Items: A. SCE: January 2020 B. Graffiti Abatement Program (March 2020) C. Bruce Hamamoto of Public Works and Santa Clara River Watershed Area Steering Committee (March 2020) D. Water Talks: Integrated Regional Water Management Plan, Heather Merenda, Environmental Services, City of Santa Clarita E. Acton Agua Dulce Unified School District: Superintendent King: standing agenda item, monthly “State of the District” 20. MSP: Move to Adjourn at 10:20 PM M: SK 7-0-0 S: LV Respectfully Submitted: Mary Johnson, 2019 ADTC Secretary APPROVED: December 11, 2019

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