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PODCAST TRANSCRIPT SPECIAL EDITION PODCAST: ROBERT MCCLOSKEY Sarah Mackenzie: 00:00 This is a special edition of the Read-Aloud Revival Podcast. Some authors and illustrators deserve, well, extra attention. If you see their books on a bookshelf, at a garage sale, at the library, and pretty much anywhere, you should just pick them up and read them, read them on your own, read them to the kids in your life. No matter which book it is. And the authors and illustrators behind these kinds of books fascinate me. In this special edition podcast we're meeting the man behind Make Way for Ducklings, Blueberries for Sal, One Morning in Maine, Time of Wonder, Homer Price, and others. Yes, indeed. You've got a special edition of the Read-Aloud Revival. I'm your host, Sarah Mackenzie, and friends, I want to introduce you to Robert McCloskey. Sarah Mackenzie: 01:22 Mr. And Mrs. Mallard we're looking for a place to live, but every time Mr. Mallard saw what looked like a nice place, Mrs. Mallard said it was no good. There were sure to be foxes in the woods or turtles in the water. And she was not going to raise a family where there might be foxes or turtles. So they flew on and on. When they got to Boston, they felt too tired to fly any further. There was a nice pond in the public garden with a little island on it, "The very place to spend the night", quacked Mr. Mallard. So down they flapped. Next morning, they fished for their breakfast in the mud at the bottom of the pond, but they didn't find much. Just as they were getting ready to start on their way, a strange, enormous bird came by. It was pushing a boat full of people, and there was a man sitting on its back. "Good morning,” quacked Mr. Mallard, being polite. Sarah Mackenzie: 02:25 The big bird was too proud to answer, but the people on the boat threw peanuts in the water. So the mallards followed them all round the pond and got another breakfast better than the first. "I like this place,” said Mrs. Mallard, as they climbed out on the bank and waddled along, "Why Page 2 of 18 don't we build a nest and raise our ducklings right in this pond? There are no foxes and no turtles. And the people feed us peanuts. What could be better?" “Good,” said Mr. Mallard, delighted that, at last, Mrs. Mallard had found a place that suited her. "But look out!” squawked Mrs. Mallard, all in a dither, "You'll get run over!" And when she got her breath, she added, "This is not a place for babies with all those horrible things rushing about. We'll have to look somewhere else." So begins one of the most celebrated picture books of all time, chances are you've heard this story before. Chances are you've seen its illustrations. Make Way for Ducklings is arguably one of the most well-known picture books ever created. Sarah Mackenzie: 04:03 And the ducks that grace it's pages: Mr. Mallard, Mrs. Mallard, Jack, Kack, Lack, Mack, Nack, Ouack, Pack and Quack would not only delight children over several generations, they would also go on to become permanent sculptures fixed in the Boston Public Garden, and even make way for international diplomacy as part of the SRART Treaty between the US and the USSR in 1991. A picture book is a powerful piece of art. You'll be certain enough of that by the end of this episode. Now let's take a closer look at the man behind the ducks. Oh, there he is. Do you see him? Rather unassuming, right? Quietly hauling groceries from his boat in Penobscot Bay off the shore of Maine. He lives on a private island there. So he's got to haul everything in and out by foot. Enough groceries and supplies for his family of four, his wife, Peggy, and their daughters, Sal and Jane. Ah, Sal and Jane. Sarah Mackenzie: 05:14 Yes, you know them too. If you've ever read Blueberries for Sal or One Morning in Maine, the girls show up time and time again in his stories. Although perhaps showing up is not the right way to say that. It seems the stories bloomed from the girls’ very existence, doesn’t it? The man on the dock stops now, and again, he looks at the gull's passing over, the dinghies, bobbing in the water, the swirl of clouds as the weather changes more. And he's not looking at any of these things the way most of us look at them. No, he is seeing them, seeing them with accuracy and artistic vision in a way most of us have never seen a thing in our lives. And once he's done hauling these groceries, he'll batten down the hatches against the new England storm and head back to his sketchbook to see all of it again, even more clearly this time, he'll see the gull's passing overhead. The dinghies bobbing in the water, the swirl of © 2021 SARAH MACKENZIE MEDIA LLC, all rights reserved WWW.READALOUDREVIVAL.COM Page 3 of 18 clouds, the very dock he hauled his groceries in on, but this time they'll leap from his pencil onto his sketchbook. Sarah Mackenzie: 06:31 And this time we will get to see what he sees because he'll put those drawings into books and not a single one of them will go out of print even decades later. Did I mention he's a private man? Well, there, he goes up to his house to love on his family, to sketch what he sees, to make stories. He never really set out to become a children's book writer and illustrator. He never set out to become famous for his illustrations and picture books. No, he didn't set out that way at all. Let's take a moment to go way back to when he was born - September, 1914. Robert McCloskey, known by everyone in his life as Bob, was born and raised in Hamilton, Ohio. He grew up tinkering with clocks and old motors, taking things apart and putting them back together. He played multiple musical instruments, including the piano, the drums, the oboe, and of course the harmonica. Sarah Mackenzie: 08:04 He was skilled at a great many things. He invented. For example, the Christmas tree at his house actually revolved. It spun around on a contraption Bob created as a child. He made a machine that some remember as a tattoo maker and others as a contraption to whip cream, but suffice it to say, a pattern of the Milky Way Galaxy spattered all over his mother's kitchen. As a result of that particular childhood invention. He carved wood into totem poles, carving soap into, well, all sorts of things. In fact, he taught others to do the same. He was pretty young when he started teaching soap carving at the YMCA and things didn't always go exactly according to plan. Jane McCloskey: 08:54 My father from a young age was pretty artistic and he belonged to the YMCA in town and they recognized it and they had him teach a class in how to carve soap. Sarah Mackenzie: 09:06 That's Jane, Bob's youngest daughter. You know her, if you've ever read One Morning in Maine or Time of Wonder, she's the younger sister in the McCloskey house and she's Bob's daughter Jane McCloskey: 09:18 He'd have these little kids. And Bob was maybe 14, 15, 16. And these little kids were 7, 8, 9. There was one little boy who was wiggling. And finally he raised his hand and said, "Can I go to the bathroom?" And, well, they were on the fourth floor of the YMCA. And Bob said, "Sure." So the kid got out to the edge of the hall, but he had to go down a flight to get to the bathroom. And he decided he couldn't do © 2021 SARAH MACKENZIE MEDIA LLC, all rights reserved WWW.READALOUDREVIVAL.COM Page 4 of 18 it. So he opened his fly and on the landing of the fourth floor, he peed over the edge. It went down four floors and it landed on the fuse box! So, all the lights went out, and they all had to have an exit to get out of the building just to be safe, but that's what happened! Sarah Mackenzie: 10:10 Kind of sounds like something that would happen to Homer Price, doesn't it? Bob wanted to be an artist. He went to Vesper George Art School in Boston, walking, it turns out, through Boston Public Garden on his way, home from school every day. And he was a very accomplished artist, indeed. Listen to what Regina Hayes, the former editor at large at Viking, Bob's publisher, had to say about his early days. Regina Hayes: 10:35 Bob, in his youth was a big deal, I must say - he was a protege of Paul Manship. Did you know that? Paul Manship did the Prometheus, at Rockefeller Center and [inaudible 00:10:46] on the bridge in Washington. And then he won the Prix to Rome, which he wasn't able to take until after the war.