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Roinn Cosanta. Bureau of Military ROINN COSANTA. BUREAU OF MILITARY HISTORY, 1913-21. STATEMENT BY WITNESS. DOCUMENT NO. W.S. 883 Witness Lieut. -Col. John M. MacCarthy, 225, Cabra Road, Phibsborough, Dublin. Identity. Adjutant, East Limerick Brigade; Member of East Limerick Flying Column. Subject. National and military activities, East Limerick, 1900-1921. Conditions, if any, Stipulated by Witness. Nil File No. S.523 Form B.S.M.2 Statement of Lieut-Colonel J.M. MacCarthy. CONTENTS. Pages 1. Family background and the national orientation in Kilfinnane in the early years of the century. 1-4 2. Schooldays - Clongowes & St. Colman's, Fermoy. 5-6 The: Volunteer movement in Kilfinnane from to the 3. 1914 Redmondite Spilt. 6-12 The Irish Volunteers after the: 4. Re-organised Split with the? assistance of Ernest Blythe: as the G.H.Q. organiser. The: formation of the Galtee. Battalion. 12-14 5. Galtee training camp under Ginger O'Connell in summer of 1915 - subsequent camp at Kilkee. 15-1614-15 The: 1915 Whit parade in Limerick. 6.7. Proposal to arm Volunteers with pikes. 17 Easter Week 18-23 8. 1916. The 9. Re-organisation and the Manahan-Hannigan Split and the enquiry. 25-28 10. Sean Wall. as the: Brigade Commander in East Limerick - his death in 1921. 28-30 The crises 30-32 11. Conscription period The: africars of the (Galtee) Battn. 32-34 12. re-organised 5th The elections - induct ion into the I.R.B. 13. 1918 My 34-35 Reference. to the rescue: of Sean Hogan at 14. Knocklong Station. 35-37 Reference ta the Limerick. strike and 15. railway billeting of"refugees" dealt with in appendices. 37-39 16. Acquisition of a. service: rifle - intimidation of intending R.I.C. recruits. 40 17. Peace conference appeal - Dáil Loan. Arrival of Tbmás Malone: (Seán Ford) in the Brigade area. Ballylanders barrack attack. 41-42 18. Comment on the claim of Seán T. O'Riordan to have organised and commanded the Ballylanders attack. 43 19. Further comment upon other Volunteer officers present at Ballylanders. 43-45 2. Pages 20. The attack on Kilmallock Barracks. 46-50 21. The organisation of the East Limerick Brigade - destruction of: evacuated R.LC. barracks. 50-52 22. Ernie O'Maliley appears in East Limerick as: a. G.H.Q. organiser. 52-53 23. Thee organisation of the first of the: Flying Columns June, 1920. 53-55 24. The escape: from I.R.A. custody of General Lucas. 55 25. A military raid on our house. during which I evade arrest; by escaping through the cordon. 56-62 26. Visits to Kilrush and Limerick while on the run. City 56-65 27. Rejoining the Flying; Column in December 1920, I am appointed to the position of Brigade Adjutant. 65-68 28. The Glenacurrane ambush, 66-68 29. Christmas break for the Column - death of David Tobin 68 and Thos. Murphy. 30. Consultation meeting foreshadowing the: divisioned ) organisation between six Brigades of Cork, Limerick and) 68-69 Tipperary at Glanworth, 6th. January,, 1921. ) Re-assembly of Easvt Limerick Column on same date. ) 31. Reference to a dispatch from G.H.Q. regarding the selection of suitable men to under-take the: execution of the; British Prime Minister', 69-70 32. The movements of the re-assembled Column. 70-73 35. Intelligence; situation - capture of I.R.A. arms; dump.. 73-75 34. Outline: of the general conditions under which the Column operated - discipline, administration, training 75 and local intelligence service. 35. Drumkeen ambush, 80-81 36.. The shooting down of a British aeroplane in the Martinstown area. 82-87 37. Thee Column evades large scale efforts to round it up. 87-88 38. I leave; the: Column at Bruree to give my full time to the duties of my appointment as Brigade Adjutant. 88-89 The; at: Bruff. 89-90 39. The Brigade Headquarters dug-out Uregare, Column losses at Sraharla & 91-92 40. Ballyhahill, Lackelly. 41. Capture of British "Intelligence Summary'. 91-92 time of the 42. General comment on I.R.A. situation at the Truce. 93-95. APPENDICES. A.1. Printed Manifesto datedl5th July 1915. A.2. Original letter ref. Personnel of Vol. Defence Committee. 8.1. Drawing of Pikehead (original). B.2. An CosantÓir proof of article on Sean Wall. C.I. Typescript copy of correspondence of April 1919 re Limerick Strike and billeting proposal. C.2. Original printed copy of G.H.Q. instruction on formation of Intelligence Service dated 1st Nov. 1919. D. Single proof copy of article on Ballylanders Bk. attack. E. Single proof copy of article on Kilmallock Bk. attack. F.I. Typescript copy of G.H.Q. instruction dated 4.10.20. on organisation of Flying Column. F.2. Single original copies in mimeo of G.H.Q. Orders 1 to 6, and No. 10 (19.5.20 to 19.6.20). G. Typescript copy of minutes of (Glanworth) meeting 6.1.21. H. Type&cript copies of Report of Vice-Brigadier E. Limerick to O/C. Brig, for transmission to G.H.Q. dated 12.1.21. I. Typescript copy of letter of C/S to O/C East Limk. Brigade dated 19.1.21 concerning selection of men for special mission. J. Typescript cow of Intelligence reports to O/C. E.L. Brig. from O/C. 4th Bn. Cork II Brig, and 5th Bns. E.L. K. Single copy of portion of I" map showing route of column. L. Single copy of proof of article on Drumkeen Ambush with sketch map. M. Typescript copy of letter of Pilot Officer Mackay, R.A.F. to his captors. N. Single original copy of captured British Intelligence Summary. 0. Typescript copy of Orders (5 pages) from E. O'Malley O/C. 2nd Div. P. Typescript copy of Orders to Liaison Officers from Chief Liaison Officer dated 12th July 1921. Q. Typescript copy of summary of actions in which E.L. Brigade was involved. STATEMENT OF LIEUT-COLONEL JOHN MAURICE MacCARTHY Dunard, 225 Cabra Road, Phibsboro', Dublin. To a degree depending on his branch of historical research, the historian recording his findings of cause and effect in Irish politics of the years, 1913 to 1921, will seek to delineate the type and characteristics of the individual men and women who played a part, great or small, in the events of that period. Whether his delineation be merely a composite picture, a visualisation to be kept in the mind's eye as events and motives are assessed, or a scientific classification in some specialised study of the many and varied personalities involved, no mere chronicle of purely political or military matters will suffice as material for such a picture or study. It is with those considerations in mind that I think it proper to preface this account with an outline of my early years, associations and environment. I am a native of the County of Limerick, where I was born at Sycamore Lodge, Kilfinane, on 8th November, 1896. My father, who had been educated at The Monastery School, Clondalkin, Dublin, with a view to a professional career, eventually took over control of the family's commercial interests, a wholesale, retail and distributing business in Kilfinane, and also developed my birthplace into a well-known stud farm, the Sycamore Lodge Stud. In politics he was a Nationalist but opposed to the Irish Parliamentary Party, being an -2- adherent of William O'Brien. As such he was closely associated with T. Westrdpp Bennett (later to become Chairman of the Senate) who usually was the O'Brienite candidate opposing the Irish Party nominee at Parliamentary elections in East Limerick. As will later appear, the existence of this sub-division of nationalist opinion was not without influence in the subsequent developments within the Irish Volunteer organisation, not alone in County Limerick but especially in Cork, Kerry and Tipperary where the. O'Brienite nationalists had their principal strongholds. This, however, was all in the future, but accounts for my elaboration of what might otherwise seem unimportant. In the meanwhile, Bennett, as standard-bearer for the O'Brienite Nationalists, usually gave the Irish Party candidate a close contest for the East Limerick seat, but generally the Redmondite machinery of the United Irish League and the Ancient Order of Hibernians organisations were supreme in the constituency. This. was definitely so in the Kilfinane area where the O'Brienite supporters, though fairly numerous, were clearly in a minority. So much was this the case that with party feeling running high, as it was apt to do at election times, opposition to the Irish Parliamentary Party could be very harmful to a business man. In my father's case this certainly would have been the effect were it not that his minority political views were offset by his fairly large and employment and generous treatment of labour his sporting associations. These included patronage of a notable hurling team with many claims to a unique record. This team, Kilfinane, won the ill-Ireland Championship at Jones' Road, Dublin, in 1897 when club teams, not county -3- selections, were the unit of the competition and it was subsequently County Champion Team for many years. The locality as a whole has in fact a remarkable record for such a circumscribed area in the field of sport and athletics, having produced many record holders, including World (Olympic) Champions. Altogether it was a very virile community. Nowadays, as a sign of changing times and a falling population, its once famous hurling team is graded junior, its two bands reduced to one and its claims to champion status confined to its Chess Club being the first in Ireland to win some trophy or other.
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