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NONCONVENTIONAL MACHINING & SURFACE ENHANCEMENT MARCH 2015 CONFIRMED
CONFIRMED MINUTES MARCH 2-5, 2015 BERLIN, GERMANY
These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.
MONDAY, MARCH 2 to THURSDAY, MARCH 5
1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – OPEN
1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check
The Nonconventional Machining & Surface Enhancement (NMSE) Task Group (TG) was called to order at 9:00 a.m., 02-Mar-2015.
It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.
A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:
Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME COMPANY NAME
* Tomohiko Ashikaga Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Christopher Borg Gulfstream Aerospace (General Dynamics) * Zeljko Calija Goodrich (UTAS) * Alessio Colombara AgustaWestland David Day GE Aviation * Caroline DesLandes Bombardier Ilona Dilorio Rolls Royce Deutchland * Martin Grepl Honeywell * Rodney Holt Triumph Group Inc. * Joakim Idetjarn GKN Aerospace Sweden Steven Johnson Triumph Group Robert Koukol Honeywell * Marc-Andre Lefebvre Heroux Devtek * Simon Long Airbus Takehide Maura Mitsubishi Heavy Industries * David McCallister Pratt & Whitney (UTC) Secretary * Marc Montreuill Heroux Devtek Gudrun Muehlbauer MTU Aero Engines * John Pfeiffer GE Aviation Shlomo Ramati Israel Aerospace Industries * Nouman Usmani GE Aviation * Paul Woolley Rolls-Royce Chairperson
Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)
NAME COMPANY NAME
Irgun Evrehsize TAI-TUSAS Dmitry Galant Turbine Jet Koray Kiling TAI-TUSAS Igor Rudman Turbine Jet Ltd * Yoshiomi Sukesada Asahi Kinzoku Kogyo Inc. Tugba Uyar TAI-TUSAS
PRI Staff Present
Michael Graham Scott Nelson
1.2 Safety Information – OPEN
Scott Nelson highlighted the safety information.
1.3 Review Code of Ethics and Meeting Conduct – OPEN
Scott Nelson reviewed information on this topic. (Ref: The Nadcap Attendees Guide)
1.4 Antitrust Video – OPEN
TG reviewed the Antitrust video from Joe Pinto.
1.5 Review Agenda for Surface Enhamcement – OPEN
Paul Woolley reviewed the agenda.
1.6 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes – OPEN
The minutes from October 2014 were approved as written.
2.0 RAIL (SE ITEMS) – OPEN
The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed.
For specific details, please see the current NMSE Task Group Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.
3.0 REVIEW SE MEMBERSHIP STATUS – OPEN
Two companies (Asahi Kinsoku and Curtiss Wright) did not meet the criteria for maintaining membership. One representative from Asahi Kinsoku is in attendance at this meeting. The TG Chair agreed to maintain voting membership after attaining commitment to comply with requirements going forward.
The NMSE TG approved the following new voting members after verifying attendance at 2 meetings:
Rodney Holt of Triumph Aerospace (Subscriber Voting Member [UVM])
Martin Grepl of Honeywell (Alternate UVM [AUVM])
Joakim Idetjarn of GKN Aerospace Sweden (UVM)
David Jones of Precision Protective Coatings (Supplier Voting Member [SVM])
Marc Montreuill of Heroux-Devtek (AUVM)
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson to send Subscriber Voting Member list for both NM and SE to TG, to review for accuracy. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson to send e-mail to Curtiss Wright, to see if they wish to remain as Voting Member. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015) NONCONVENTIONAL MACHINING & SURFACE ENHANCEMENT MARCH 2015 CONFIRMED
4.0 WORKING SESSION – OPEN
The TG reviewed the following Checklists, to explain any N/A responses:
AC7117, AC7117/1, AC7117/2, AC7117/3, AC7117/4, and AC7117/5
AC7117/2, AC7117/3 and AC7117/4 need further review for the purpose of addressing a supplier issue. Subcommittee will work on this before June 2015 meeting. (Paul Wooley, K.T.Quader, Mike Schmidt, Zeljko Calija, Alex Pohoata, Caroline Des Landes, Jeff Robb)
ACTION ITEM: Subcommittee to hold telecom to continue working on revisions of AC7117/2, AC7117/3, and AC7117/4, to address supplier issue. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Caroline Des Landes will send wording to Scott Nelson for Handbook comments on AC7117/5 para. 9.7.4. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015)
5.0 WORKING SESSION –OPEN
Continued from item 4.0
6.0 LASER PEENING – OPEN
Nouman Usmani presented some basic (non-proprietary) principles of Laser peening performed at GE Aviation. After discussion with the group, it was determined that many details of this process are company proprietary. Several others indicated that their companies are not using the process and/or it is proprietary information.
John Pfeiffer made a motion and Dave McCallister seconded, to table the topic of Laser Peening. Motion was unanimously approved by the TG.
7.0 NEW SE BUSINESS – OPEN
No New Business was discussed.
8.0 COMBINED METRICS – CLOSED
Scott Nelson reviewed various metrics from eAuditNet. The metrics showed that PRI Staff Engineers and Revieweres ared doing a good job keeping up with the audits.
Scott Nelson noted the number of Major NCRs written has increased in 4Q14. It was noted that the subject of minor vs. major NCRs was reviewed at the October 2014 Auditor Conference.
It was noted that NM Auditor #6 did not write any NCRs in 14 reaccreditation audits conducted in 2014. The TG asked Scott Nelson to review data from 2014 and 2013. If the data is correct, the TG does not want Auditor #6 conducting NM audits.
The TG confirmed that Brian Manty and Rick Sovich will continue as Delegated Reviewers. Scott Nelson has reviewed 9 audits so far. He is required to review a minimum of 25 for NM and 25 for SE.
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson to review performance of NM Auditor #6. If data is correct, Scott Nelson will notify PRI to no longer use Auditor #6 for NM audits. (Due Date: 30-Apr-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson to clean up “Top Findings” list for posting on eAudit.Net. (Due Date: 30-Apr-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson to work with CSR to ensure Auditor Identification numbers are the same for NM and SE. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015) 9.0 REVIEW OF NMSE SUPPLIER COMMENTS – OPEN
The TG reviewed supplier comments, and there were no concerns expressed.
10.0 NOP-012 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY TEAM ACTIVITY/WORKING SESSION – OPEN
Subscriber Oversight Audit was reviewed:
155656: by Simon Long (Airbus)
The TG discussed potential face to face feedback with auditors during October 2015 Auditor Conference. It was suggested that Scott Nelson discuss the issue with the Heat Treating (HT) TG.
11.0 UPDATES – OPEN
Feedback from auditors – none received. TG discussed Auditor Training.
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson will identify 3-5 auditors prior to June 2015 meeting, that would be candidates for auditor feedback in the October 2015 Auditor Conference. (Due Date: 22-May-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Scott Nelson will send out schedule of upcoming audits, to encourage Primes to participate in Oversight Audits. (Due Date: 15-Apr-2015)
12.0 NEW BUSINESS – CLOSED
The TG discussed appeal from a supplier (Supplier Advisory #2579), after the TG voted to withdraw accreditation. Paul Woolley made a motion which was seconded by Simon Long: Based on RCCA provided by Messier-Bugatti-Dowty, the TG recommends to put their accreditation back in place for 12 months, conditional upon TG Chairman contacting MBD, to confirm there are no objections. Motion was passed unanimously.
ACTION ITEM: Paul Woolley will contact Messier-Bugatti-Dowty, to ensure they have no objections to returning accreditation to subject supplier. Due Date: 1-May-2015)
Mike Graham presented Mode B failure data for 2014. The TG voted to leave Mode B failure threshold criteria the same, due to checklist revisions this year. Will review data again in March 2016 meeting.
13.0 RAIL (NM ITEMS) – OPEN
The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed and updated by Mike Graham.
For specific details, please see the current NMSE Task Group Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.
14.0 REPORT OF MEETINGS – OPEN
No Supplier Support Committee (SSC) member was in attendance to give a report-out.
15.0 NM MEMBERSHIP STATUS – OPEN
Attendance and Voting status of Primes and Suppliers was reviewed. No issues noted.
The NMSE TG approved the following new member after verifying attendance at 2 meetings:
Martin Grepl of Honeywell (AUVM)
16.0 WATERJET CHECKLIST – OPEN
The TG began the draft of a checklist for Waterjet machining. The draft checklist will be sent out to the TG for review and comments. Finalization will occur at June 2015 meeting. NONCONVENTIONAL MACHINING & SURFACE ENHANCEMENT MARCH 2015 CONFIRMED
ACTION ITEM: Mike Graham will e-mail draft checklist and matrix of Prime Requirements for Waterjet Machining to TG Voting Members, including Supplier Voting Members. (Due Date: 30- Mar-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Mike Graham will request the feedback on the Waterjet machining checklist be provided by April 30, 2015. (Due Date 30-Mar-2015)
ACTION ITEM: Nouman Usmani will collect the comments, update the checklist, and reformat the Checklist for review in June 2015 meeting. (Due Date: 22-Jun-2015)
17.0 WORKING SESSION – OPEN
NM Checklists were reviewed. Finalized “NA Justifications” for AC7116/5 LPM and AC7116/6 SEG checklists. NM Handbook was reviewed.
Due to emergency with Staff Engineer, this topic was not discussed. Topic has been transferred to June 2015 meeting agenda.
18.0 NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
No new business discussed.
19.0 REPORT OF MEETINGS – OPEN
Paul Wooley gave an update from the Nadcap Management Council (NMC) Meeting.
No SSC member was available to present from the SSC meeting.
20.0 RISK MITIGATION – OPEN
Mike Graham gave training on the Risk Mitigation process.
Paul Woolley suggested that some of the Subscribers involved with the failed audit volunteer to participate in the Risk Mitigation process.
21.0 AUDITOR TRAINING PREPARATION – OPEN
A list of topics was developed and various Subscribers volunteered to present topics during the October 2015 Auditor Training.
22.0 ACTION ITEM REVIEW – OPEN
Dave McCallister reviewed Action Items from March 2015 meeting. Several revisions were made, to allow correct RAIL entry.
23.0 JUNE MEETING AGENDA PLANNING – OPEN
Paul Woolley and Mike Graham led the discussion and generated a draft agenda for June meeting.
24.0 NEW BUSINESS – OPEN
Redundant topic.
ADJOURNMENT – 05-Mar-2015 – Meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
Minutes Prepared by: Dave McCallister ([email protected])
***** For PRI Staff use only: ****** Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)
YES* ☐ NO ☒
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