March 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/0330r0

IEEE P802.11 Wireless LANs

TGT Teleconference Minutes for March 10, 2005

Date: 2005-03-13 Author: Name Company Address Phone email 9600 SW Oak St. Tom Alexander VeriWave, Inc Suite 380 +1 503 473 8358 [email protected] Portland, OR 97223

Abstract

This document contains the meeting minutes from the TGT Task Group Teleconference on March 10, 2005.

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Recorded attendees (more may have attended – please send updates to TG Chair):

Mlinarsky, Fanny Warren, Craig Wright, Charles Victor, Dalton Foegelle, Michael Lemberger, Uriel Tolpin, Alexander (Sasha) Berry, Don Goel, Sachin Alexander, Tom

Proceedings:

Charles opened the teleconference at 09.05AM. Tom Alexander was appointed secretary for the teleconference. The agenda was approved without opposition.

Charles invited Sasha to comment on the work done in the definitions ad-hoc group.

Sasha said that there had been good discussions in the ad-hoc, but the group wanted to first synchronize their work before publishing it on the server. It was not up on the server yet.

Question from Charles: Was Michael Foegelle involved in the discussion on integrating into the document? Answer: There was some e-mail exchange, but he hasn't had much time to review it, so that's another reason why it was not published.

Question from Charles: Will you be able to present it in Atlanta next week? Answer: Yes, we plan to.

Question: Are there more changes being made to the definitions from last week? Answer: We've adopted the summary that Michael published in his mail. We have added some new terms from the discussions. We need to get feedback from the rest of the group.

Michael joined the group at this point. Charles brought him up to speed on the discussion so far and asked if he had anything to add.

Michael said that Steve was working on updating the Intel document and was working on adding the definitions from the ad-hoc into that. They hadn't got through every definition in the ad-hoc group.

Charles noted that he would rather see some output rather than wait longer for full output. Michael then asked if Steve was on the call. Charles said that Steve was caught up in another meeting and couldn't make it. Charles further noted that the formatting was not important; he would even want to see just slides with 1 definition per slide.

Charles then asked Tom to proceed with his topic.

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Tom said that he had observed that the group had been in existence for 9 months now and there was no sign of any draft text emerging. He would like to see some discussion in Atlanta on the timeline for the group.

Charles said that this was a good topic, especially as the 802.11 chair had requested a timeline from all the task groups. He suggested that perhaps people should be allowed to bring in some work proposals that were informal (not necessarily voted on) so that we could discuss them. A discussion of timeline would be in order at the next meeting as well.

Tom mentioned that sometimes what might break a stalled situation was a proposal coming in out of the blue, that caused everyone to wake up and bring in their proposals as well.

Craig noted that he would like to make presentations for diversity and for ACI. Charles said that this would be welcome, as we hadn't talked about these subjects in the group before.

Charles then reviewed the agenda for the next week, and said that we had a solid 14 hours of meeting time on Tuesday and Thursday.

Question from Craig (addressed to the metrics ad-hoc group): I have some other metrics that have been unplugged from Sasha and the other guys to get feedback on. Would that be possible to have this happen? Clarification from Charles: Do you want to present them? Answer: No, I just want the ad-hoc group to take a look at them.

Fanny said that there had been some discussions on document structure and so on, and this could be one contribution if Craig wanted to join forces on that. Craig generally agreed with this suggestion. Charles said that more metrics were better.

Question from Craig: Is there a plan to present the ad-hoc document in Atlanta and discuss? Charles turned the question over to Uriel and Sasha. Uriel said that he was somewhat indefinite on that at the moment. Charles said that we could open it up for discussion in the group and see where it went.

Charles then asked if there were any other comments on these topics. No comments were forthcoming, so he ended the teleconference.

The teleconference ended at 9.30 AM PST.

Action Items:

None.

Next Conference Call:

TBD after the March Plenary.

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