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Executive Board Tuesday, November 8, 2011 SAC W314 8:00 pm
I. Call Meeting to Order
Guests not allowed to speak unless yielded floor or recognized by chair
Lots of guests this meeting
Motion to move campus freedom resolution to top of agenda
Approved
II. Roll Call
III. Election Rules
Three separate documents: supreme court rules, Senior Advisor Max
Morley has changes, Senator Graudick has changes
President Frizzell would like to go through like the constitution
Chapter 100
President Frizzell would like to add potential run-off dates
Chief Justice McReynolds is allowing a week between file deadline for
cases and run-offs, run-off held from March 5th 12am-March 7th 12pm
Max reminded that Senate passed second day of formal campaigning not
allow for active campaigning due to Rally and State of Student Body
President Pappe yield floor to Skylar Senator Graudick would like the Court to hold debate for Top 4 and
councils as well
President Wetterer says law elections later than timeline
Senator Graudick says specific amendments for other schools
Max says could make it for all schools participating in SGA general
election
Chief Justice McReynolds reminds all schools participate because vote for
President and Top 4
President Frizzell thinks good to have council debate, overshadowed by
Top 4, fair, Feb 9th-12th , shortly after Top 4 debate
Senator Graudick doesn’t care when as long as get out
Senator Mattingly suggests write a separate act to have separate debate
Max agrees that debates are not necessarily election rule, pass an act
EVP Sangoi: recommendation for debates but do as separate act,
approved
Approved Chapter 100 as is
Chapter 101
Approved
Chapter 102
President Frizzell yield to Skylar
Senator Graudick would like to designate slate affiliation on ballot President Wetterer asks if everyone on slates, might vote as whole slate
only
Senator Graudick says still vote individually for each position
President Wetterer thinks then voter should know names
Max believes this would increase number of uninformed voters, just vote
based on name, even if convenient
Senator Schoen agrees with Max, if you don’t know who voting for then
rather you not vote
President Frizzell says a problem could occur with candidates running
under false name
Approved as is
Chapter 200
Max change 200.2, unfair opportunity to run twice for positions, not fair
to undergraduates
President Harris asks who able to do that
Max replies graduate school, other professional schools, A&S not able to
do this, unfair
President Wetterer says that elected office separate from Law school
elected office
President Frizzell realizes two different things for professional schools
Senator Schoen thinks autonomy of councils may not be able to tell
councils not to pick who they want
EVP Sangoi suggests figure out what constitution says about this Max replies the Constitution does not address it
President Frizzell says it is very unclear, put bluntly what we are trying to
fix, motion to discuss not run for Top 4 and Senate seat
President Navale thinks the clearer we are less ambiguity
President Frizzell says Dean Mardis said specifics great
Presidetn Smithson asks what if resign, can we appoint a new person
Max believes that would be special election, they are not running
President Navale asks if elected in Kent
President Smithson says they are not elected, appointed by previous
council, by application
EVP Sangoi asks what does constitution say about appointed seats vs
elected seats
Chief Justice McReynolds responds have to look at what councils have
done in the past
Move to approve Max’s recommendations
Approved
Chapter 201
President Heisler notices 2010 should be 2012
Approved as friendly
Chapter 300
Approved
Chapter 301 Approved
Chapter 302
Senator Graudick believes allows for loophole, intentional nature is
problem with messing with flyers, violation of person’s voice, award
highest penalty
President Frizzell disapprove of adding Class 1 sanction because
disqualification, not like assessment of sanctions, important for court to
have authority
Senator Graudick would at least keep “bad faith”, creating a loophole,
intentionally placing flyers as to hinder other candidate
EVP Sangoi asks how know who is doing bad faith things
Senator Graudick answers he addressed in 800.2
Max likes it, whole boards designed to prevent all candidates from getting
publicity, that fall under bad faith, word better
Senator Graudick says Max said my intention
President Frizzell still thinks it is bad, more court cases based on
ambiguity, competitive advantage to slate is good thing, display materials
better
Senator Graudick states issue with flyers is ambiguity over whole thing,
take pictures, high violation
Senator Mattingly has a problem with second sentence, too specific
Presidetn Pappe knows random people could walk by and change things,
asks how can you regulate that, so ambiguous, look at other avenues EVP Sangoi says more of a problem to whatever already is a problem,
“bad faith” too ambiguous
President Harris reminds there is a fine line between smart and sneaky,
give time frame to fix it
President Frizzell says a flyer violation has been filed every year, court
sends email to inform, can call it “bad faith”
Motion to approve 302.4 as written by Court
Motion to approve all of Chapter 302
Senator Graudick thinks we should do something about it, issue because
happened last year
President Heisler says call the question
Approved as is
Chapter 303
Approved
Chapter 304
Approved
Chapter 305
Approved
Chapter 306
President Pappe add 306.2 all election materials be recycled
Motion to add 306.2 that all recyclable campaign materials are
encouraged to be recycled Senator Schoen vote nay
Chapter 400
Approved
Chapter 500
Approved
Chapter 501
President Heisler ask why and ink or paper
President Frizzell says flyers reported, ink and paper could be included
Chief Justice McReynolds explains there were inquiries in past
Max asks what if already has ink
Chief Justice McReynolds says try it
Approved
Chapter 502
Max says current rules don’t allow for RSOs to endorse or make
donations, organ of the university is still undefined, both changed in
rules, RSO should be allowed to endorse, look at Max’s changes
Chief Justice McReynolds says 502.2 largest concern, defining what an
“organ of the university” means is very vague, watch how do language,
could cause problems
President Frizzell says does cause major headaches, organ of university is
anything funded by university, athletics ran a campaign a few years ago, must be funded, strike out necessarily and change to monetarily funded,
go through previous court cases
Max says it is vague, but better than ever had, need definition
Motion to approve Chapter 502 as amended
Senator Schoen says with respect to Province and Cardinal Towne still
carry same weight, close to organ
President Frizzell thinks same as restaurant example
Max says endorse and cause problems too, negatives outweigh positives
President Schwenker adds management company pays me not Cardinal
Towne
Jeff Lamb adds all three are UofL Housing affiliated
President Schwenker says there are different levels of affiliation
Max states Province paying University, not other way around
President Frizzell problem if use monetarily funded because on website,
funded by university
Max thinks would be in-kind donation
EVP Sangoi asks if good idea to get specific
President Smithson understands what doing but huge amount of power
to student, asks how safeguard
Senator Schoen says not cater exclusively to students, affiliated to
University
Senator Graudick says candidate running alone or for first time, set them
up for trap, create list of prohibited organizations Max thinks need to define one way or other with affiliated housing,
ambiguous possible gain better than ambiguous guaranteed loss
Justice Thomas suggests situation to defer to court, define what organ
means, removes process from potential candidates
President Frizzell says trying to be more detailed, struck it completely,
only individuals and RSOs
Senator Schoen likes what Kurtis said, do same things from departments
Max reminds still doesn’t define organ
President Nasseri likes referring to court
Motion withdrawn
President Nasseri: Motion to refer to the court for an organ of the
university definition
President Frizzell suggests recommend use specific language
President Wetterer reminds can’t tell Court what to do or how to say
Max suggests request by next Senate meeting
Approved
Motion to approve 502.1 and 502.3 of Max’s changes
Approved
Chapter 503
Approved
Chapter 600
Approved Chapter 601
Senator Graudick says we should make every attempt to send emails
about elections
Max says no reason shouldn’t if could
Chief Justice McReynolds says he drafts email and sent to someone else
Motion to add Skylar’s amendment
President Pappe asks isn’t already in there
Max change will to shall
Approved
Chapter 700
Approved
Chapter 701
Approved
Chapter 800
Motion to set time to adjourn at 10 pm
Approved
Senator Graudick thinks there should be high penalty for intentional
President Frizzell says still issue with Class 1 sanction
Motion to approve Chapter 800 as is
Approved
Chapter 801
Max say use based on votes for specific candidates President Schwenker: Motion to approve Chapter 801 as amended by
Max
Approved
Chapter 802
Approved
Chapter 803
Senator Graudick thinks change to 48 hours to make more fair
Max agrees, 24 hours is quick turn around, have lives
Senator Schoen says all in college and stuff comes up
Motion to amend the minimum to 72 hours
President Wetterer asks is that going to mess up timeline with court
President Frizzell says that’s 6 days after campaign
Max believes makes for more fair case
Seantor Schoen says in the end only comes down to extra 4 days from
what it is now
President Frizzell asks turned in early, can Court act earlier
Approved
Chapter 900
Approved
Go back to Chapter 801
Senator Graudick believe unfair, add bad faith definition Max states those words mean different things to different people, ask
Skylar to talk about 801.11 and 801.12
Senator Graudick says target people who committed offense, 801.12
important for new candidates
Chief Justice McReynolds says it is all online
President Frizzell says if already doing it then add to rules
Motion to include 801.11 and 801.12 of Skylar’s changes to Chapter 800
Approved
President Frizzell: Motion to have court define “bad faith”and present at
next Senate Meeting
President Wetterer asks if realistic to have 2 opinions
Approved
IV. New Business
Campus Freedom Resolution
Preston Bates says working with non-partisan group, rate first
amendment rights of colleges, red/yellow/green rankings, no school in ky
has green light, red light reflects unconstitutional, FIRE, how to fix
unconstitutional policies, administration please do something about it
EVP Sangoi says first reading here, second reading will be at senate
Preston explains having meeting this week about it and want some
support
Max went and put what each light means
EVP Sangoi asks what makes UofL red light Preston says one red light policy makes you a red light, computer usage
policy, vague phrases that can group people in broad categories,
prosecuted for large amount of things because of broad language, no
academic freedom, one specific red light policy that we can try to fix,
consider policy recommendation
EVP Sangoi asks if have idea of what it could be
Preston says would get it this week and be able to present it to senate
Max is amenable to changing wording, use “consider” instead in therefore
be it resolved
Preston says that would be fine
Max: motion to change to “consider the proposed changes”
Friendly
President Frizzell would like to show senate what we would like to
change, some stuff would probably want to be the same
Preston says difference between unconstitutional restrictions and
unrestricted campus, red light policy is unconstitutional, civilly liable,
yellow lights are not necessarily unconstitutional
President Frizzell would want to see changes before go to President
Ramsey
Preston says hope conversation not reduce down to that, can’t take
unconstitutional policies in public university, just be constitutional
EVP Sangoi syas E-board reccomend show exact policy change to Senate
Preston would also send to Faculty Senate President Frizzell suggests talk to AVP Heil about introducing it to Faculty
Senate, go with him
Motion to pass as amended
Approved
V. Announcements
A&S Lunch with Dean tomorrow
VI. Adjourn Meeting
Motion to adjourn