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LAS POSITAS COLLEGE DESIGN TECHNOLOGY ADVISORY BOARD

Tuesday, October 26, 2004 4:00 PM Room 1603

APPROVED Minutes

Present: . Carolyn Baranouskas, LPC Instructor/Design Technology Program Coordinator . Ron Batchelor, LLNL, LPC Adjunct Faculty . Ted Brownlee, ATS Systems California, Inc. . Don Danner, Granada High School . Neal Ely, Dean of Academic Services, Division III . Stan Rudolff, Livermore High School, Drafting and Electronics Instructor . Dennis Ryder, Lawrence Livermore National Lab . Winston Wong, Lawrence Livermore National Lab/LPC Adjunct Faculty

Called to order: 4:06 pm

I. WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS

Dr. Ely welcomed everyone to the Fall 2004 Design Technology Advisory Board meeting, thanked them for coming, and asked all to sign-in and update e-mail addresses. It was noted that Stan Rudolff retired from Livermore High School and now works full- time at the Lab.

Dr. Ely offered all in attendance the “Gifts of Appreciation” listed below. They are the College’s way of thanking Advisory Board members for their support, time and advice.

 A voucher good for two tickets to any Las Positas College Performing Arts event on campus during the Fall or Spring semesters. The vouchers must be redeemed at the LPC Bookstore at least 24 hours prior to the event you wish to attend. Design Technology Advisory Board Minutes October 26, 2004– Page 2  Special Parking Permits are available to Advisory Board members. The permits are issued on a two-year cycle and are valid through the current academic year. Board members themselves should only use parking permits. Anyone who needs a permit should see Colleen after the meeting.

 LPC Library Cards are also available to Advisory Board members. Application forms are contained in each meeting packet. They should be completed and returned to Colleen so that a Library/LPC card can be issued.

II. APPROVAL OF SPRING 2004 MINUTES

Motion: Accept the minutes from the April 20, 2004 Advisory Board meeting as submitted. MSC: Rudolff/Brownlee Vote: Unanimous

III. COLLEGE REPORT TO THE BOARD

A. Fall 2004 Enrollments Dr. Ely reviewed the Fall 2004 Enrollment handout. He noted that enrollments are a little better than before, although he would like to have seen higher enrollment in the DSNT 62C class. DSNT 70, the Pro/E class is down a little this semester. He noted that Will Jorgensen would like to offer a sheet metal-based class.

Course Title Allowed Enrolled +/- Instructor DSNT 9-WE1 Colloquium-Design Technology 24 10 -14 Jorgenson DSNT 52-V01 Technical Graphics 24 21 -3 Slutz-Baranouskas DSNT 62A-093 Computer Aided Drafting (CAD) 24 16 -8 Slutz-Baranouskas DSNT 62C-093 Three Dimensional Modeling 24 8 -16 Slutz-Baranouskas DSNT 70-093 Manufac & Design Using Pro/E 24 15 -9 Jorgenson DSNT 9950-V01 Design with an Edge Cancelled

Dr. Ely reported that it was a real disappointment that the new creative class, Design with an Edge, had to be cancelled. Only two students enrolled, which was not enough to keep the class, especially since it is a 2-course sequence. Carolyn Baranouskas noted that the class was a day offering and that either information about the class did not reach people or they were not available to take a class during the day. Dr. Ely commented that perhaps the course title did not effectively communicate the course content to the outside world. The College has not given up on the class and will offer it again. Design Technology Advisory Board Minutes October 26, 2004– Page 3

B. Spring 2005 Schedule Spring schedules are available to anyone who would like one. The following courses will be offered in Spring 2005:

DSNT 9 Colloquium-Design Technology DSNT 52 Technical Graphics DSNT 62A Computer Aided Drafting (CAD) DSNT 62B Computer Aided Design DSNT 71 Assembly & Design/PRO/Engineer DSNT 9950 Design with an Edge

Dr. Ely noted that DSNT 9950 will be offered again on Tuesday and Thursday evenings, to take out the daytime variable. Hopefully, enrollment will increase.

C. 2004-2006 Catalog The 2004-2006 catalogs are available to anyone who would like one. There will be an addendum in 2005 and a new catalog again in Fall 2006.

D. Budget Update Dr. Ely reported that it is a tight year, but there has been growth to where we were two years ago. We have been frugal and prudent and are in good shape for the year.

E. Enrollment Management and Education Master Plan Update Dr. Ely explained that the Enrollment Management Committee is the College’s process for sorting out what classes we offer, based on funds allocated to the district. The Enrollment Management Committee allocates FTEF based on several factors, including projected growth and prior efficient use of FTEF. The colleges each have Enrollment Management committees, which allocate FTE to each division and respective disciplines, including the Design Technology discipline. Currently, the Enrollment Management Committee is in the process of assessing how much FTEF is used. It is anticipated that 15-25 additional FTEF will be allocated to the College for use for additional classes. They will watch the student growth target to get growth money.

Consistent with that, the College is updating the Education Master Plan and will continue the process over the next few months.

F. Bond Activities Dr. Ely reported that last March the $498M Measure B bond passed. He noted that there are two buildings in the pipeline being built with funds not from Measure B. The gymnasium is under construction and the multi-disciplinary building will house classrooms and computer rooms, and should start in the Spring. Design Technology Advisory Board Minutes October 26, 2004– Page 4 The College is in the process of detailed planning for the efficient use of the Measure B funds. There are three major task forces looking at the planning opportunities, including facilities and organization plans. Student enrollment is currently at 7500 and is expected to be 14,000-15,000 in ten years. If the campus is not built out, there will be no place for students to attend class. In fact, the College may have to lease space temporarily in the Spring.

G. Majors Faire (October 18); Senior and Parents Night (October 27) Dr. Ely announced that the Majors Faire was held October 18th. There was a very large turnout and great participation. Senior and Parents Night is scheduled for tomorrow evening. At this event high school seniors and their parents from Livermore, Pleasanton, Dublin and Sunol are invited to attend. They are given an overview of the College with breakout sessions where they learn more about specific disciplines.

H. Report to the Board by Carolyn Baranouskas, Program Coordinator Carolyn Baranouskas reported that when she re-wrote course outlines for the program, she chose to rewrite outlines for courses that would potentially be offered in the future. She did not rewrite DSNT 50, Mechanical Drafting for Non-majors, a 2 unit course on mechanical drawing and design, because there is minimal demand and interested students are directed to take DSNT 52. The division voted to inactivate DSNT 50. If it is to be offered in the future, Carolyn will rewrite the outline at that time. Dr. Ely noted that if DSNT 50 were to be put into the schedule, it would compete with DSNT 52 and Design with an Edge.

Carolyn also reported on the DSNT 9950 Design with an Edge class, offered for the first time this Fall. The course was designed as an attempt to break out of the linear sequence of degree-bound students and offer students an interesting mix of concepts. However, the class did not have enough students enroll so it was cancelled and will be offered again in the Spring. The second class in the sequence will be offered next Fall.

There was general discussion about various courses and need for courses. Dr. Ely explained that it is difficult to offer classes for three or four students and it is not financially sound. Carolyn was interested in what the Advisory Board sees as needed classes. Stan Rudolff and others discussed using AutoCAD for interior design, horticulture, and mechanical design, and teaching the subjects vs. the tool for the design. Carolyn would like to offer an interior design/AutoCAD class in the summer. There also seems to be some hesitancy on the part of the Interior Design instructors to team-teach such a class.

Winston Wong expressed the opinion that it is correct to diversify the CAD tool because trying to focus on a single subject (i.e., Horticulture or Interior Design) is not the way to go. The field in evolving away from drafting and more to “smart” design where the design is used as a spreadsheet with calculations, data storage and documentation and data is extracted from the drawing. Carolyn commented Design Technology Advisory Board Minutes October 26, 2004– Page 5 that there is a pool of people in Interior Design who have not been exposed to CAD and she would like to introduce them.

There was discussion about AutoCAD being a basic program and adding other programs into it. It might require fundraising to acquire more sophisticated software. Dr. Ely noted that changes in a course outline would have to be presented at the January Division Meeting in order for a summer class to be included in the printed schedule that goes out to the community.

There was general discussion about the costs of educational rates for services and software and grants that can be used for licenses. Mr. Rudolff noted that he has used grants to pay for software and been given additional software by the vendor. He noted that there are other means to get software. Instructors are able to review software on line. There are websites that provide on-line conferences that include one to two hours of live instruction. AutoDesk often has packages for 30 day trials; the 30 days can be extended.

Carolyn would like to have as many tools as possible available to students. Winston Wong suggested that if the tools are not available, that students be given information about them and get students to ask questions. Perhaps in the summer students can try some to the tools, even if they are on a 30-day trial. Carolyn noted that the more students use computers, the more excited they become. Dr. Ely suggested that the Design with an Edge class could introduce some of these tools. Carolyn explained that the general public seems to be confused about what software programs they should be exposed to or need to know.

Dr. Ely asked Carolyn to write out a good press release about the Design with an Edge class so that the District’s Public Affairs department can put it out to the media and generate interest. Dr. Ely noted that, in general, education writers have given the College good coverage on new programs. Specifically, the people who own The Independent are supporters of the College. It would be an opportunity to inform people about courses, beyond the catalog descriptions.

There was discussion about appealing to various people and making design relevant to a variety of applications. There was also discussion about the possibility of participation in local competitions. Ron Batchelor also emphasized the need to make classes relevant to a working environment.

Dr. Ely emphasized that Carolyn is striving to synthesize ideas and information into a class that will meet the needs of industry and bring students to the classroom. Design Technology Advisory Board Minutes October 26, 2004– Page 6

IV. RECOMMENDATIONS FROM ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS TO THE COLLEGE

1. Diversify applications and ideas and teach students to use the tool, but use the tool for what they want to do. For example, Winston Wong cited a practical application using excel spreadsheets, a database and horticulture and landscape specifications. Students must identify what they are interested in, in order to apply the tools.

2. Investigate CAD vendors and other CAD programs that can be interfaced in the program. It was suggested that Carolyn investigate AutoDesk University in Las Vegas or other such conference classes.

3. It was suggested that Carolyn conduct exit interviews with students to find out why they are not going on in the program. It could be a five-minute sit down meeting, but the College should find out why students are not continuing in the program.

V. OTHER BUSINESS/ANNOUNCEMENTS There were no other announcements.

VI. DATE OF NEXT MEETING The next meeting date was set for Tuesday, April 26, 2005, at 4:00 PM.

Meeting adjourned at 5:35 PM. Minutes submitted by Colleen Heller, Administrative Assistant, Division III