Tillamook County Beach Access for Vehicles Public Comment Process Monday, October 5, 2020 – Tuesday, October 20, 2020 Survey Responses

This document contains the text of all on-line survey responses, in order of submission. The text is complete and unedited, except for a couple instances of foul language. Names and addresses have been removed.

Survey responses: 882 Emails to [email protected]: 107 Letters to the BOC: 7 Speakers at October 19, 2020 Virtual Listening Session: 18

Note: the above numbers contain a small number of duplicates, e.g. a couple folks spoke at the virtual meeting, wrote an email, and filled out the survey.

Text of Survey: Public Opinion Survey: Vehicle Access on Tillamook County Beaches

1. Vehicle use should be prohibited at Tillamook County beach access points. (Yes/No) 2. Vehicle use should be allowed at Tillamook County beach access points. o Tierra del Mar (Sand Lake Road) o McPhillips Drive o Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot (Hungry Harbor Drive) o Pacific City Turnaround o Other 3. Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. 4. I confirm that I am aware I am submitting public comment to the Tillamook County Board of Commissioners and my responses will be entered into the public record. Name: 5. Address: 6. If you would like to provide testimony directly to the Board of Commissioners at the Monday, October 19, 2020 virtual public meeting from 4:00 - 6:00 pm, please provide your email address and we will send registration information.

Question 1: Vehicle use should be prohibited at Tillamook County beach access points.

YES/Prohibit NO/Allow • 300 survey respondents + 50 emails • 582 survey respondents + 51 emails • Tillamook County residents: 230 • Tillamook County residents: 272 • Non-Residents: 70 • Non-Residents: 310

Note: addresses were required for the on-line survey only; no address information is available for those who emailed. YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow We should not have to close our beaches because of tourists. Residents still enjoy the option of being able to drive on tdm mcP ck pct 10 No the beach. Start giving people fines for stupidity instead of ruining for everyone. 11 Yes During the last beach closure period, instead of visitors avoiding the beach, they just parked along the roadways. This No tdm mcP ck pct caused extreme traffic congestion, dangerous pedestrian situations and unsafe (Social Distancing) bottle necks at the 12 beach access points. I think it is a terrible choice for the environment and therefore our coastal economy. Sure some tourists will come to Yes rip it up on the beach but let’s stay different from our neighbors to the north and south. With the kayaking tours and 13 None other natural offerings we stand out! Closing down access to the beach's has made a very serious safety hazard especially in the Tierra Del Mar area because tdm mcP ck pct 14 No there is not enough parking. Only for boat Don’t allow it. It is so much nicer and safer for people, dogs and kids to run around and not worry about getting hit. Yes launching, You should still allow beach access for boat launching only. If you don’t have a trailer and boat you shouldn’t be 15 nothing else. allowed to drive on the beach. 16 YES None Vehicles should not be allowed on Oregon beaches. Vehicles do not belong on the beach. Period. Motorized Vehicles on the beach reduce safety and make it far less 17 YES NONE desirable for families, children And anyone trying to enjoy the beauty of Oregon’s coast. Pacific City for It is not appropriate to allow vehicles on the Tierra Del Mar beaches. There are no facilities available and the are Yes fishing boat unable to be adequately paroled due to pressure on the county law enforcement department and state parks in more 18 access populated county locations, We should be allowed to drive of the beaches, the push to close access is from a group a transplants not people’s who tdm mcP ck pct 19 No are from pacific city that are taking advantage of covid I love not having vehicles on the beach at the Cape, I also think the front parking spot should be for handicapped mcP 20 Yes drivers and there should be a fee to park in the lot no fee for Dory parking 21 Yes I see no positive result from allowing vehicles on the beach This will be nice for people's whit special needs. tdm mcP ck pct 22 No Barbiew jetty For local who would like to go enjoy a 🌄🌄 close to the water inside their cars

Yes While most drivers on the beach are sensible, we notice some who speed and drive over the dunes in front of houses, 23 destroying sand and vegetation . So far we haven’t seen anybody injured, but it certainly is a possibility. I think it would be good to keep vehicles off the beach if for nothing else, for environmental reasons..... I'm a full time automotive technician and I know how vehicles leak fluids. With one exception being residents with handicap parking Yes tdm permits as i know a few who are not able to walk the beaches, but still love to be on the beach to watch out beautiful 24 sunsets I think this is getting out of hand and we need to stop closing places up. Give us back our freedoms. If someone doesn't tdm mcP ck pct 25 NO All like it, they can stay home.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 1 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

It's been wonderful not having public access except for boat launching activities at the Cape. So much safer for Yes tdm everyone. I like having some access at Tierra del Mar because my husband is handicapped and it is the only way we 26 can get down to the beach. Thank you for allowing that this past month. I'd love to see that part continued. 27 No

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As a hang and paraglider pilot I have been flying Cape Kiwanda for 30 years The parks even mention us on their websites. While I can hike my paraglider in it makes for a difficult day and hiking No tdm mcP my hang glider in is not an option. I do see the increase use at the beaches and it is a big issue. Perhaps hang gliding and paragliding could be grandfathered in to allow us to continue to fly this great site. Thanks for your consideration . 29 I lived in Portland for decades and now live in Issaquah WA but still make trips to the coast for flying people come from accross the country to say they drove on the beach, second there are various local tow companies tdm mcP ck pct 30 No that relies on that revenue to supplement there business. I believe it is our right to be able to use our beaches we are already very limited to small parts of our beach that happen tdm mcP ck pct 31 No to be in our county to drive on and have a private camp fire and or picnic by our vehicles

32 No tdm mcP ck pct Bay Ocean Spit Entry allowed with spacing at Cape Kiwanda. Vehicles should be allowed to access and drive on the beach! It is a state highway and I like to go surf fishing and tdm mcP ck pct 33 No pump shrimp at the bay as well as beach come especially in the winter months!

If you shut these accesses down where are all the visitors to these beaches going to park. Along the road and anywhere they can find a spot big enough. They will block driveways, streets and business parking lots. This seems to come up every few years and it's usually because of the people that have houses along the beach. They think that should give No tdm mcP ck pct them a say over how the beach is used. They have no more rights then every other citizen of Oregon. I've been through the Tierra del Mar area when the beach was closed and the road was narrowed down to 1 way traffic, because they park out in the road when they can find a spot big enough on the shoulder. Many on these areas are still open for 34 horses and you can't park a horse trailer along the road in Tierra Del Mar. Vehicle beach access is becoming more rare across America. It is one of the things that makes Pacific City/Cape No tdm mcP ck pct Kiwanda special and it's why I choose to come and spend my money in that area. I support maintaining the pre-covid 35 vehicle beach access policies. It is no longer safe for vehicles to drive on the beach. There are way to many vehicles on the beach. It is not safe for my children to play on the beach without the fear of being ran over. We should be able to enjoy the beach without the Yes fear of being hit by a car. Tourists are crazy drivers who are not aware of the dangers of driving on the beach. They 36 None are constantly getting stuck in the sand too.

37 No tdm mcP ck Some are old and it’s difficult to enjoy the beach without driving down on it.

tdm mcP ck pct 38 No Parking is a nightmare now and negatively impacting local business owners like myself. Please restore access

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 2 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow The north side of Cape Kiwanda is a vital free flight flying site for Hang gliding and Paragliding, and walking in gear No tdm mcP pct is prohibitively difficult for many. McPhillips drive access supports the local hang gliding school, as well as several 39 other free flight instructors in the surrounding areas. There are ample roads to access the Oregon coast and driving to sites is not necessary. By removing vehicle access, especially in busy areas such as Cape Kiwanda and McPhillips Drive, the beaches will be less crowded and more Yes serene. If the issue is providing ample access the beaches, consider adding parking on the street and trails to access the 40 waterfront. Dorys should be allowed and only Tierra Del Mar so people with disabilities have access. They should have to have a tdm 41 No pass so not everyone drives on the beach. Vehicles should be allowed on some beaches, but not all. Beach parking allows a much greater number of people to access the beach, including those with disabilities. The Cape Kiwanda area has businesses that benefit from tourist traffic, but residential areas do not, and so it makes economic sense to allow additional traffic in commercial areas, but No ck not residential.

42 Please note, I do not know where the "Pacific City Turnaround" is.

No tdm mcP pct The Cape should be the only beach off limits to vehicles for public safety reasons. The only exception would be dory 43 boat activities to the north of the access. All other beaches pose no threat to public safety and should be left open.

No tdm mcP ck pct Beach access is a unique aspect of Oregon beaches and it’s an expression of freedom for those who love nature and 44 love to immerse themselves in the elements with the whole family including those members who could walk on the sand 45 Yes I don’t think any beaches in Oregon should allow cars on the beach. It gets abused, drivers don’t follow the rules, Yes ruins the beach experience for families (and cars are always getting stuck). The beach is not the place for cars. The 46 None! state/county does not have the funds to monitor them. Driving on the beach is bad for the environment and creates an unsafe atmosphere. Even when it is allowed in certain areas, I have regularly observed individuals deciding to drive beyond those signs. When used to extend the parking lot Yes at the cape, it then creates a tailgating atmosphere where families and individuals are essentially recreating on a sandy parking lot. It is only a matter of time before someone gets hurt. Only launching vehicles and emergency vehicles 47 should be allowed. Dory launching 48 Yes only Dangerous to children and harmful to razor clam populations

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Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 3 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

Open Mcphillips The beach between Mcphillips drive and the north side of Cape Kiawanda should be open to anyone with the proper dr., leave hungry vehicles, Hungry harbor drive should be open to boat launching only otherwise it becomes to crowded with vehicles for No harbor drive anyone to safely play or walk on the beach. The turn around could be opened to appropriate vehicles if they change the open to boat entrance so you do not need excessive speed to get over the entrance. The way it is now is dangerous for any pedestrian 51 launching only walking over the dune The actions and/or wants of a few should not effect the lives of many... Our neighbors to the north embrace the beach No tdm mcP ck pct access at Del Ray and have multiple groups helping to protect it and the people on it. Maybe we can arrange such 52 groups to "protect" the neighborhoods virtue. It’s an Oregon institution. It’s what keeps us from being California, and what generation after generation has such fond tdm mcP ck pct 53 No memories of.

Our beaches are complex ecologically, including numerous sea life such as clams and shrimp, that live along our Yes shores. Cars and other motorized vehicles have no place along our shores. These vehicles make it more hazardous for 54 walkers, kids playing and sun bathers. Please unless its emergency vehicles, keep our beaches vehicle free. I do not support vehicle access on the beaches. I do support parking and I would like to see Tillamook County needs to 55 Yes address this.

56 Yes Vehicles other than official or emergency vehicles should not be allowed. They are a nuisance and a public safety risk.

57 No tdm mcP ck pct Don’t take our rights away, if we can drive in the woods than we can drive in the beach. A complete closure of all beaches is not a great compromise. To enable safe social distancing and keep partial access tdm ck 58 No would be a more effective option in keeping the overall population happy and safe.

59 No tdm mcP ck pct It is a God given right. 😁😁😁😁 I personally enjoy having my vehicle in the beach to allow for ease with small children. However, I think there needs to No tdm ck pct be some kind of monitoring for what kind of vehicle can go on the beach (so they don't get stuck) and a limit per area 60 to control crowding and keep things safe.

I love driving on the beach. I have been doing it responsibly sense I was able to drive. I am a local, several generations on both sides of my family have called this beautiful county home. It feels as though the things that make me want to No tdm mcP pct stay in the area are slowly being taken away. I understand not wanting just anyone driving at the Cape. As a local I don’t even go there. There are to many people to enjoy it. I say leave it to the Dory Fleet to drive at. I do however drive 61 at McPhillips and Tierra Del Mar as often as I can and would love to continue to.

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The turnaround has become very popular during the capes closure so therefore vehicles should not be permitted at No tdm mcP either of there points and honestly I can’t believe nobody has been hit there so far because you have to fly blindly up and over each side or you will not make it and you really have no idea what you are heading into. Before there was 63 hardly any foot traffic but now that is definitely not the case, especially with the horse and camel rides there... This is an important way for some that can access no other way. It is a highlight for some visitors to come drive our Yes tdm mcP pct beaches. Many thousands of people not being surveyed have built memories on these beaches and returned time and 64 time again because of these unique access points.

I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the summer on cape Kiwanda without having to dodge speeding vehicles and grimacing as I Yes tdm mcP pct watch a toddler or dog almost get hit. I support keeping that access point closed except for Dory boats. The other 65 access points are less heavily trafficked and I therefore don’t mind having them open for access.

I am all for cars accessing the beach at certain points during the off season, but this should not include Kiwanda Drive Yes tdm mcP pct at all (except Dories). As an avid surfer and beach walker who lives at the beach, it has been wonderful not having to dodge the traffic on the beach while they try to keep their momentum and make it up the ramp or through the sand 66 without getting stuck, and compete with the Dories who need to access the ramp. The vehicle access helps people who have kids or cannot walk in sand very easily to be able to enjoy the beaches and I tdm mcP ck pct 67 No have not yet seen any issues with it in my 38 years.

Yes Allowing vehicle access (other than emergency or law enforcement) is dangerous for pedestrians, especially children, 68 and wildlife. Increasing numbers of tourists increase the danger, and spoil the beauty, peace and quiet of our beaches.

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I'm not aware of it being necessary anywhere (except perhaps for a bona fide health/safety emergency). It pollutes, Yes interferes with birds and other wildlife, and detracts from the peace and serenity of our wonderful beaches. It creates 71 noise and hazard for people, especially children. It also invites littering and other misuses.

72 No tdm mcP ck pct It’s our right to be able to drive on some of the last “drive on beaches” in Oregon as tax paying citizens.

No tdm mcP ck pct Our family has been enjoying parking on the beach and driving to the month of the river forever. Absolutely not 73 enough parking if we are not allowed to drive and park on the beach. Wife’s family home is in PC

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 5 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I'm disabled and this is the only way I can get down on the beach to enjoy.

I live here and I've always considered this my Beach. I pick up garbage and take care of it.

During certain seasons if it had to be closed on weekends or Friday Saturday and Sunday, I would be okay with that. I'd rather not lose it! When covid-19 happened I hadn't been on the beach since a few weeks before it was announced & I didn't get to enjoy the beach until a few weeks ago!

That's not fair to people that live here and moved here for the beach. Why should we lose out because of tourists bad No tdm behavior?

I don't have a wheelchair that can access soft sand and the terrain and that's why I only marked it Tierra del Mar area I'm not as familiar with the other beach access. Also it is a short span Beach that is the lowest populated during tourists invasion and has the least amount of danger and problems period people that don't want vehicles can always walk to the right in the restricted area that vehicles are not allowed most of the year. because

I sent emails in before when all this happened and I've never yet received a response from the county commissioners. 74 Please don't take my beach away.

Historic vehicle access should not be removed do to the county or states lack of involvement with its own constituents this violates the very rights of Tax Paying Citizens and is a slap in the face of those who volunteer to maintained OUR No tdm mcP pct beautiful beaches. Remember we voted you in to your positions we can just as easily VOTE YOU OUT! This is not a reasonable decision based on facts this is a rash decision forced on the public by a few bad people with power that went to their heads. Do not make excuses that there is not enough law enforcement or that money is tight. Oregon 75 Beaches are Every Oregonians GOD GIVEN RIGHT not a privilege. My family and I love the fact that Pacific City has driving access on the beach. It’s a family tradition that we would tdm mcP ck pct 76 No love to continue years to come. Don’t let something good get taken away... Please!

Only allowed I think it would be okay during the winter months, or off seasons. It gets too busy and too many cars and people would Yes during winter be flooding the beaches dangerously or getting stuck. In areas where dory boats need to go in and out they should be 77 months allowed all season, but otherwise no on vehicles in the summer during busy season.

I believe there is more problems created than solved by allowing vehicles to access the beach at all the access points Yes listed above. The ONLY time a vehicle should be allowed to park on a beach is for fishing purposes (dory boats, 78 kayaks, zodiacs, jet skis and other fishing crafts) at Cape Kiwanda, and Tierra Del Mar

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 6 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

As a full time TIllamook County resident living in Pacific City we’re not opposed to charging parking fees to help support infrastructure to handle tourists. But like many I've spoken with since the 8-15 CAC meeting we're wanting to play the "local full time resident and taxer” card for special consideration. I wasn't surprised by the feeling of most people who attended the 8-15 meeting in wanting to abolish vehicular operation on local South TC beaches. At that meeting Larry Rouse mentioned "traditions" and the fact they're going to change. We love to take family and friends for rides on the sand in our 1975 International Harvester Scout II. That's the only thing we do with that vehicle and sadly if beach driving is outlawed a family tradition spanning 4 decades will be no longer and we'll probably have to sell our 1975 IHC Scout II. My dad; Jack Doyle, deceased former long time PC resident, had IHC Scout 4WD’s and my kids (Jack and Carol's Doyle’s grandkids) were taken down on the sand towards the mouth of the Nestucca River for roasting hot dogs, kite flying, skim boarding, and playing in the sand and surf. Cautious and safe driving practices used always when “going over” at the turn around. And we recognize others, mainly tourists who aren't (cautious and safe). Sadly a few rotten apples can spoil the barrel. We often use a spotter to walk up to the top of the dune to make No mcP ck pct sure a run up that dune is safely done. The mouth of the Nestucca is so enchanting and beautiful. Many memories of crabbing with the Criders, Adolf, Starbuck families and others at the mouth. In the last years before my mom (Carol Doyle) passed she so enjoyed taking Scout rides with my wife and me down on the Cape Kiwanda and McPhillips beaches, and occasionally over the dune at the turn around. As a kid my dad taught me and two brothers how to drive on the beach in the sand and he'd set up a driving course with driftwood as markers. Dad did the same for his grandchildren. Driving on the beach is woven into 4-generations of Doyle's dating back to the early 1950’s. Sadly it’s the newer generation of PC residents who are opposed to beach driving and will carry the opinion for closing local beaches (to vehicles) to fruition. And as mentioned it’s the tourists who’ll spoil it for the minority of us PC residents who want to keep beaches open. Spoiled by people who operate vehicles unsafely and by people who lack common sense assuming they can drive on the sand but end up getting stuck.

The more important issue is Tillamook County’s, State Highway, and State Park’s lack of funding for staffing and 79 resources to manage and handle the tourism impact on South Tillamook County (Pacific City).

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Yes Maybe open just to county residents as I feel we have more respect for our county than the visitors who come here and 82 None trash our beaches. We as residents can't go to the beaches on weekends because you can never find a parking spot. Beach access has been a very special privilege on NW beaches. Many recreational activities are still dependant on vehicle access. The activity I'm keen to enjoy is Hang Glider training and flying at Kape Kiawanda and various dunes No tdm mcP ck pct up and down the coast. Hiking in a 50lb glider is exceptionally challenging on sand, so I look forward to using my vehicle when access reopens. I also expect people less physically able than myself would also benefit from vehicle 83 access.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 7 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow With the beach closed, it has made it next to impossible to enjoy our amazing little town due to lack of parking. I can tdm mcP ck pct 84 No see this hurting small businesses in the area if something isn’t done.

85 No tdm mcP ck pct This is a draw for tourists to the beach and now tourists are leaving and business is down. I own Oregon Outdoor No tdm mcP ck pct Adventure and all the tourist I drove around the trash left on the beach was not from tourists it was from the ocean. Ask 86 SOLVE beach clean up Vehicles, excluding those used to transport fishing boats and water recreational vehicles, should be banned as they Yes ck create a potentially dangerous mix with pedestrians, adds noise and environmental pollution, and de-beauties the beach 87 experience for everyone. Keep our beaches clean and beautiful.

While I prefer not allowing vehicles on the beach, if the Board allows or partially restricts access, then they need to consider a comprehensive plan to address the consequences of their decisions, e.g. overflow into residential areas, Yes trash, dog feces, vehicles violating beach no parking zones (north TDM), safety, adequate and affordable parking, proper signage and communication, emergency preparedness, vehicles violating residential parking ordinances, 88 adequate and timely response by Sheriff and other authorities to violations, accidents, etc. 89 Yes This is public property and there is no reason to take that freedom away. Except at cape kiwanda.the Dorys should take tdm mcP pct 90 No front stage The beaches belong to the people,what right does anyone have to take them away from us? Please leave vehicle access tdm mcP 91 No open to vehicles, as some people have a hard time walking This is a historic past time and has no connection whatsoever to COVID-19. Beach access to vehicles is a wonderful No tdm mcP ck pct way for families and friends to enjoy the outdoors and the Oregon beaches. Taking this right of access away is 92 unnecessary and shouldn’t be considered on a public owned & tax paid access beach. No access should be allowed, go to Yes Sandlake if you Is nothing SACRED? Go to Sandlake, it’s the recreational vehicle place to go. Being raised in Tillamook and going want to play in back today, it makes me sick to see the crowds and their disrespect of our beautiful beaches. I don’t see a need to allow 93 the sand! access in south county. Some of us have special needs, and access would not be available if not by vehicle access. Secondly, there is a severe Yes tdm mcP pct parking issue in Pacific City and TDM that causes more issues for residents than vehicles on the beach. Maybe don't 94 blanket solve this but find solutions that are compromising. Please leave the access alone. Everyone who owns houses in the area bought them knowing full well there were No tdm mcP ck pct multiple beach access points nearby. The closures conducted by the state and county caused much of the problem by 95 forcing people to bunch up instead of being able to spread out. No changes should be made in the way of vehicle access to our beach's. That would only serve to concentrate it tdm mcP ck pct 96 No elsewhere. Instead improve Sheriff's office funding and increase law enforcement.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 8 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

All beaches! They are deemed No tdm mcP ck pct highways and are unconstitutionaly 97 being blocked it is in our state constitution to allow it Vehicle beach access allows visitors to disperse from each other on the beach. Also as a paragliding pilot vehicle beach No tdm mcP access is critical for our ability to fly at Tierra Del Mar. Limiting vehicle beach access will be detrimental to the 98 schools that use this location on a weekly if not nearly daily basis.

99 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should be allowed on ALL beaches to launch and retrieve watercraft Allowing vehicle access on the beach will not only provide additional opportunities for the elderly and disabled to No tdm mcP ck pct enjoy the beach but it will also provide an experience for all to enjoy bringing families, gear, etc to our wonderful 100 ocean. I believe the only vehicles that should be allowed on the beach are those launching dories or other watercraft—at designated areas like we have had all summer at Hungry Harbor Rd.

I’m a surfer and fisherman and I personally loved having our prior access to drive on the beach. As a full time resident of Pacific City I’ve seen firsthand the explosive growth in visitors and the daily chaos that ensued with the beach Yes traffic. Seeing this situation overwhelm and ultimately cause Lisa our previous ranger to leave last summer was frustrating, as was how trashed the beaches were on a daily basis.

Now after experiencing a summer beach where families, surfers, dogs and all beach goers could enjoy the ocean without fear of being hit by a car or surrounded by stuck vehicles, I realize that it’s time for this to be a permanent 101 closure.

102 No tdm mcP ck pct Beach access has caused no problems for 50 years. The pandemic has provided a solid case study in the benefits of closing all South County beaches to vehicle access. The beaches are safer, more environmentally friendly and more pristine. Opening back up TDM beach provided more Yes pct information in favor of closing permanently. As a frequent runner/walker on that beach, I noticed increased garbage, reckless driving, increased camping and driving up the north side of the cape, which deteriorates the integrity of the 103 dune.

Yes With the exception that Dory Fishermen should be allowed to drive on the beaches; but not the general public as 104 recreational driving. There is always some risk to pedestrians and toxic waste when vehicles are driving on the beach. I enjoy going to the beach with my pets in the winter. I do avoid it during the summer as it is too crowed. what if we tdm mcP ck pct 105 No were to require permits, passes, or make it seasonal.

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107 No tdm mcP ck pct So few areas still available for cars and cars are cleaner now than ever so damage is minimal

108 No tdm mcP ck pct Why not charge an access fee? $1 a day? I'd pay it! 109 Yes No motorized vehicles should be allowed on beaches anywhere.

Yes Please prohibit all recreational use of vehicles on the beach. Continue to allow (and promote!) dory boat launching 110 from Pacific City; recognizing that vehicles are needed to move the dory boats on/off the beach to launch.

I think in this day and age there is a large percentage of people who are NOT responsible enough to make good decisions ..and that impacts the whole. So sadly we need to make 'rules' that we can enforce to make them accountable for their actions and behaviors. Seeing how our county was treated just in Pacific City with parking on side of roads, blocking people's homes etc, it seems that a lot of visitors to our beaches are becoming increasingly entitled and selfish and I don't think this is going to change anytime soon. IF they want to go and drive on the beach, it should be a 'charge' No and monitored and that $ can go toward employment costs to 'babysit' them and any towing or costs should be charged back to that individual. etc. It's sad we have to MAKE people RESPONSIBLE For their actions and decisions that impact others and our county local law enforcement etc. and the people who live here and pay taxes to do so! I am not against tourists, we rely on their $ for many local businesses, but I'm against anyone that makes irresponsible decisions that impact others in any way, be it leaving trash, parking, using peoples private land to access the beach etc. and it seems that most of that is being done by non locals. So create projects that help police/babysit them and create the 111 funds out of it to do so.

112 No tdm mcP ck pct We have very few places to drive on the beach. Do not take them away The area north of cape kiwanda is a particularly special place for recreation. Without vehicle access it will be far more difficult to enjoy.

No tdm mcP Without vehicle permission, in order to access the beach people will park on the side of the road en masse.

113 The parking lot is already overflowing. Beach access will help spread vehicle distribution.

Yes Allowing vehicles onto the beach increases pollution in an already fragile and overused ecosystem. These areas are 114 already overrun and overcrowded; allowing vehicles on the beach would only increase that, causing more congestion.

115 No tdm mcP ck pct Tickets should be give for leaking vehicles and dangerous operation.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 10 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I live near a previous beach access at the turn around in Pacific City. I walk that beach year round. Since it's been None, the closed to vehicles, heron, seals and pelicans have come to rest on the beach in large numbers. I pick up trash on my environment walks, and the overall debris has reduced substantially! Most of the trash I pick up now, is after storms coming in from doesn't need our the sea. Yes vehicles on the Vegetation that I've never seen before had begun to grow down from the dunes, it's truly remarkable. beach at all. Lastly, the amount of rescues and patrol by the sheriff has become almost nil. Dory men can 116 use a boat ramp. Please for the sake of our precious ecosystem, do not reopen to motor vehicles. 117 Yes Allowing vehicles on the beach is not good for the ecosystem there Without beach access, parking would become out if control and drive tourism away. Within a year local businesses No tdm mcP ck pct would take an enormous hit and suffer greatly. Your property taxes will still be there either way, houses aren't going 118 anywhere, but businesses will suffer and go away. McPhillips Drive provides access to the South side of Cape Kiwanda, an historic hang gliding training site. Excluding No mcP vehicle access would effectively inhibit future flying activity there, and create a negative impact on a legacy coastal 119 recreation.

With the increased amount of visitors to our area it is now impossible for our limited infrastructure of police and fire YES and service officials to cover this additional area safely. Please do not put our locals and those tourists and their pets in 120 harms way by allowing driving day and night on unlicensed areas with no lights, no lanes no regulations.

121 No tdm mcP ck pct As an owner of a vacation home in Tierra del Mar since 1964, I have seen a marked increase in the number of cars on the beach. It has changed my walking habits because I don't like to maneuver around them. During the summer months, these cars often drive north on the beach and children/families enjoying the water or building sand castles have Yes ck to keep a constant lookout for them. Even when there is supposed to be no driving on the beach, I rarely see any enforcement of this rule. Not to mention the environmental hazards of cars and trucks on the beach. I frankly don't 122 understand why vehicles need to be there. Non-fishing vehicles; that is, those not specifically used to trailer in and launch dory type fishing boats, create unnecessary hazards to those enjoying walking, playing, sun-bathing, etc. on our beaches. I would also mention the Yes cost of having to haul a stuck vehicle off the beach because someone didn't realize how easily one can get mired in the 123 sand. Non-fishing vehicles belong on roads, not beaches.

Our beaches are Oregon Public property and access should not be denied based on possible dangerous or hazardous NO tdm mcP pct activity by the public. Addressing an overall ban on beach access based on possible safety violations should not be the reason for closure. On any of our highways you will find safety violations and those who cause damages are held 124 accountible. I am confident that the public will police harmful activities and report them to the authorities. 125 Yes Our beaches are a sanctuary for both people and animals and cars violate that.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 11 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow empty lots such as bank, Yes tdm mcP ck pct community 126 center Simply put, the sheer number of vehicles clogging the entry, or parking on side streets, or parking on Sandlake Road Yes (both legally and illegally), or entering the beach then driving far north is way more than it used to be during the last 127 few years. I have a cabin in Tierra del Mar. During the summer, it is almost impossible to walk south to Cape Kiwanda with our dog with all the cars parked and driving on the beach. Almost every trip, someone ignores the sign and drives north on Yes the beach. During the season when it is permitted to drive north, it is dangerous to be on the beach at times especially 128 when it is raining or foggy (which is often!) The number of people flooding our beaches is astounding. It drains resources to the point that when local residents none of these want to access services, resources and shopping, they aren't able to. Store shelves are bare, parking is taken up, hiking Yes areas should be trails are overrun. My husband and I are in the high risk category for COVID-!9. I feel trapped in my home because of 129 opened. this.

Only Vehicles Over the last 5 or so years, traffic to our area has significantly increased. The number of people driving and parking on with Commercial the beaches is simply insane. You can't even see the beach for the cars lined up. It's gotten so bad that we, as tax-paying Fishing Vessels Tillamook County residents, can no longer enjoy our own area. Tourists need to pay to park locally at beach lots and Yes should be tax-paying locals should be allowed free or discounted parking placards. allowed to drive Cars driving and parking on the beach is dangerous for humans and wildlife alike. The commercial Dorymen and on the beach to Dorywomen cannot safely operate. Things have gotten completely out of hand and it is a tragedy waiting to happen. offload their The County did not plan well for the influx of tourism that their advertising generated. But, that's part of another 130 vessels. conversation.

As a long time resident of Tierra Del Mar the designation of the beach access at the south end of the small community of Tierra Del Mar as over flow parking for the "Pacific City" Tourists has been a disaster! Increased traffic on Sandlake drive and every individual street has experienced non stop flow of Tourist continually drive up and down the streets looking for a place to park and access the Beaches. After darkness sets, several vehicles show up and the occupants head to the Beach for a night out of partying and mayhem. Fires are built on the beach, many in the tall grass. As a concerned resident I have approached them asking them to put their fire out and leave; the insults and Yes threats begin and all I can do is walk away and let them wake up. I do not agree with opening the Oregon Beaches to vehicular traffic or parking. I do agree that Tillamook County should provide clean up crews daily along with refuse County Built and cans, restrooms and hand washing stations at every location that are provided for people to stop and relieve themselves. paved Parking As It should be a policy at all state parks when opened for visitors the agency will provide full serviced restrooms that lots with foot are daily maintained which will include "HANDWASHING" stations. These facilities and services can easily financed access to the with the Tourist funds collected from the " Short Term Vacation Rental taxation Tillamook County " enacted several 131 Beach. years back.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 12 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I feel like the number of cars and what they are allowed to do should be heavily regulated with priority given to those No with a disability placard. Perhaps a permit system for those who want a day pass to drive on the beach, with so many 132 set aside each day for the disabled. 133 Yes tdm All beaches No tdm mcP ck pct should have 134 vertical access They should be allowed on all beaches. We should ban dogs though..

I have lived in Pacific City for 14 years. Over those years PC has become more and more popular. The number of vehicles on the beach has grown proportionally. Every time I have been on the beach with vehicles (dories excepted) I have been fearful watching little ones and pets running through the cars to get to the water. I have seen many "near Yes misses". Many of the drivers have been drinking or are just out to have fun and are not as careful as they should be as they navigate the lines of cars. The beach should be a restful area. It is also an area that supports marine life that is important to our planet. I am aware that parking is an issue in our area, but I would like to see other solutions rather 135 none than using our beautiful natural resource as a parking lot....

Please don’t close down our beaches! We chose to buy and live full time in Pacific City because of the unique access we have to these beaches by vehicle. We are responsible locals that feel this right is being jeopardized by recent rash decisions made by our local officials. Temporary closure at Hungry Harbor seemed logical with the expectation of Hungry harbor increased tourism during the busy season and the pandemic but the other closures did not make sense. Locals like drive should be myself, enjoy the access at the turnaround, McPhillips, and Tierra Del Mar to get away from the crowds and enjoy the No tdm mcP ck pct open to the beaches we chose to live nearby. Admittedly, as we all get older, hiking at least 2 miles one way to the mouth of the public during the Nestucca lugging chairs and picnic supplies isn’t reasonable. We desperately missed enjoying the beach near the off season and mouth this past summer with no vehicle access and we were unable to find parking most days and evenings near the consider closure Hungry Harbor access because of the big influx of tourists this past season. This can’t be a forever closure as it limits only through access to locals and long time visitors who responsibly enjoy access to these areas by vehicle. The beach and vehicle high tourist access is a local favorite and there are a lot of full time local residents that are furious about the recent closers and 136 season potential for permanent closer would be devastating to quality of our beach life in the PC area. Thank you. 137 Yes Allowing vehicles on the beach prevents the massive crowd and associated parking problems at the main parking area/beach access near the Pelican Pub. By allowing vehicle access to multiple beaches in the area, people naturally distribute themselves to beaches in the area which allows for less crowds in the concentrated area around the Pelican Pub. This makes the beach much more enjoyable for all. No tdm mcP ck pct I have been visiting PC for the last 25 years and one of the main attractions for me and my family is that we can drive on the beach and go to less crowded areas. I just purchased my first vacation home in PC this summer and I would be 138 extremely disappointed if the beach access points do not reopen.

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Yes tdm An exception should be made for dory fleet vehicles. Tierra del Mar access is easy and could be allowed. All other 139 points present safety issues for access, particularly the Pacific City turnaround due to the height of the dune.

We have been using McPhillips and Tierra del Mar access for Cape Kiwanda to learn hang gliding, since 1973. Locals No tdm mcP ck pct have been using it to drive down to Cape Kiwanda for generations. Wouldn't kill you or the state to add a couple 140 portable outhouses in the summer months instead of bitching about people going to the bathroom in the bushes.

There isn't enough parking as it is. Let people come and be able to park on the beach. I have surfed PC and McPhillip's NO tdm mcP ck pct beach most of my life and never have seen major problems. The people that are against this already live there and have 141 access to the beach. We can enforce the rules that are already on the books to get rid of the people that are problems.

142 No tdm mcP ck pct Allows people to spread out

143 No tdm mcP ck pct

144 No tdm mcP Beach access has been aloud on the four beaches for many years. It wasn't until covid that it was stopped. People are staying home and not traveling far from home. Covid will not stay a problem for ever and people will start traveling No tdm mcP ck pct again. THe beaches will go back to normal at that point. Please reopen the beaches to automobile traffic. I don't think 145 they should have been closed in the first place.

146 No tdm mcP ck pct

147 Yes tdm mcP I've had fun driving on the beach, but it sounds like it would be best for the long-term preservation of our parks to 148 Yes prohibit access to vehicles.

Yes I can think of no good reason for vehicles to be on the beach, aside from emergency response. Tillamook County often 149 None prides itself on progressive natural resource management and this is a great opportunity to show that we mean it!

No tdm mcP ck pct Oregon is very cold other than a few months. Vehicles provide a means to 1 get your family of all ages to the beach. 2 150 provide relief from the weather. 3 allows for quick response to any emergency that may occur in these areas.

Our family has enjoyed accessing these beaches by vehicle for more than twenty years. This allows us to access areas like the mouth of the Nestucca to crab, swim, picnic and enjoy this amazing place. These access points also provide No tdm mcP ck pct alternative areas to be on the beach during the busy summer months when there is no available parking at the Cape. Many evenings after work this summer it was impossible to find parking to be able to take our children down for a session surfing and having these access points closed was very unfair to those living here full time. Vehicle access is 151 something we have always known and is part of our traditions here in Pacific City. Please keep this access open.

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Cape Kiawanda and Turn around have too many visitors to allow safe access. I have a jeep wrangler and enjoy driving onto Tierra Del Mar and McPhillips to have my fishing gear close for surf fishing but will admit there are those that take to the beach to do donuts or other unsafe driving practices just for fun (isnt that what Sand Lake Rec is for) - just 2 weeks ago in the fog someone either wasn't paying attention or didn't see my jeep but swerved last minute and fishtailed coming close to the back end of my jeep driving way to fast and reckless. . I think with parking access and the vast amount of houses and vacation homes at Kiawanda and the Turnaround creates more traffic for drivers to contend with and seeing how some visitors and locals drive its an accident in the making - obviously access needs to be Yes tdm mcP there for Dory or boat launches on the marked side of the Cape but even then I've seen people not pay attention to the trucks or the boats coming in - having this all the way down the beach with goers that would be drinking and driving creates a recipe for disaster. I think having Tierra and McPhillips allows for disabled people to have beach access if they of course have 4WD which I have heard many complaints about that - I understand this might of been a legacy thing but from what I've heard PC has changed dramatically and with more people comes more unwelcome problems. I've only been here over a year now and my first experience after the opened the beach from COVID was OMG how does someone not get hurt or killed with cars 2-3 deep - how can you enjoy the true beach with that many vehicles blocking the entire stretch of beach access. I'd hope that Tierra or McPhillips wouldn't get that crowded but if that was 152 the result I'd vote for no beach access anywhere. Only for Yes Dorymen/Doryw It makes walking on the beach a loud and potentially dangerous situation that would otherwise be an enjoyable 153 omen experience. I have a niece and I do not take her on the beaches where cars are. It is especially dangerous for kids. It it of great benefit to our community to prohibit vehicles on the beach at all of the above listed locations. The benefit is not only to our local families and visiting families who can more safely and peacefully enjoy time by the ocean Yes without the obstruction, noise, and danger of cars and trucks (especially when vehicle owners drive recklessly on the beach). The benefit is also extended to our local environment - the ocean and all of the plants and animals who live on 154 or near the beach also benefit from the decrease in pollution. I don't think vehicles need to be on the beach. I want people to come and visit the beach, and I know parking in all of Yes the access points listed is limited, but the vehicles shouldn't be parked on the sand. They're an unnecessary stress to the 155 beach ecosystem. Congestion at Cape Kiwanda make vehicle access challenging. Preserve the rights of dory fisherman, but prohibit all Yes tdm other vehicles. PC Turnaround is dangerous. McPhillips can be tough to access. Only Tierra del Mar is easy for 156 vehicles to get on the beach. I walk the beach everyday, and have for 16 years. Without vehicles on the beach during 2020 more locals and visitors, especially children, had the freedom to enjoy themselves without the fear of needing to constantly watch for vehicles. Many beach drivers do not have the knowledge needed to drive safely in sand and they create hazards for others. Cars that are stuck in the stand pose a danger to others as they spin their wheels to try to find a foothold. Without vehicles Yes on the beach, there is no concern regarding vehicles driving in the section that is currently off limits to cars. Without vehicles on the beach, the part of the beach north of Hungry Harbor Drive is truly reserved for Dory boats and other boaters. 157 Thank you for considering this option.

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158 No tdm mcP ck pct I do not like seeing vehicles on the beaches, I consider it dangerous for the public, there are some that don’t watch Yes what they are doing and put others at risk. When I go to the beach, which is quite often, I don’t want to have to watch 159 for vehicles,. With the exception of the Dory Fleet, I would like to see vehicles prohibited on the beach, specifically in the summer. After the shut down of beaches due to COVID-19 we saw what it would look like on a busy summer day. What it looked like was a busy busy beach, but full of people. It was less chaotic, safer, easier to social distance, and generally a lot more peaceful. The boat ramp wasn't clogged and full of literally dozens on dozens of cars digging themselves out, because people are truly uneducated when it comes to driving on the beach. The beach could not be everyones parking lot, so people began parking illegally. It really painted a picture for our town that we do not have the infrastructure to handle the amount of cars/tourists on any given day. Eliminating what I call "Festival Parking" on the beach, would only help manage the over-tourism.

I will say that I think it should be across all beaches. If the choice is to open one but not the other, for example Tierra Del Mar, the residents of TDM will be flooded with the impacts that were once in Pacific City. The amount of cars, trash, and environmental impacts that come with the amount of people who want to drive and park on the beach will be more saturated in those places. It also would help with resources like the state and park rangers directing traffic to assist the Dory guides, digging people out and monitoring chaos.

Yes I personally was very excited to see McPhillips (my dog's favorite!) closed off to vehicles. But once TDM opened up, people were driving up to the base of the north side of the dune, a lot of them driving way too fast, endangering myself and my dog. Personally I loved driving my pickup down there and letting my dog run, but unfortunately not everyone has a locals mindset and is overly respectful. I am willing to sacrifice that luxury to keep those less mindful off the beach.

I do know a lot of locals who are on the opposing side of this argument. Those who know how to drive on the beach, those you pack out their trash, those who enjoy a day on the river mouth of the Nestucca...So to that I would say, at minimum, start by making it seasonal. In what we can define as the off-season, let locals enjoy their beach how they want. It does not make sense to allow it in the summer. Period.

Thank you so much for taking the time!

Lauren Pahl Pacific City resident, Marketing Coordinator for Explore Lincoln City, Secretary and Exec Board for Surfrider Three 160 Capes Chapter NONE. Only Yes Dory fishing I feel like our small town with our infrastructure can no longer support the tourism and our beaches are paying for it. It 161 access makes sense to allow dory fleet members only to drive on beach access. For launch/landing support.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 16 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Vehicles pollute the beach. It is totally unsafe. Over the years I have seen so many close calls with people (adults and children) and dogs. It appears that when someone is behind the wheel on a beach, they drive with reckless abandon. There is not any good reason to allow vehicles on the beach. There are many easy access points for those with Yes disabilities. It may require that the county expand off street parking areas as well as provide garbage cans. The beach is for walking. Highways/ roads are for driving. For the safety of our residents and our visitors, vehicular beach access 162 NONE is just not ok. I do not like vehicles on the beach it is disgusting why do I want to smell car exhaust when I'm relaxing on the beach! 163 Yes Not to mention how bad it is for the sand, ocean life and ecosystem. Those of us who have trouble walking, being able to access the beach by car is crucial. Maybe limit access to Handicap tdm mcP ck pct 164 No permits only. Stop taking away our freedoms. Not many places anymore you can take your vehicle on the beech. Don’t take away the priceless memory of our youth and family driving and seeing cars on the beach. I bet you have No tdm mcP ck pct found memories of cars on the beach from days of your youth. 165 Continue to allow what we’ve already been allowed to do. Been driving on the beach for my entire life and have some amazing memories with friends and family doing so. Even No tdm mcP ck pct Anywhere it's using the beach as a highway at one point in time hasn't caused any significant damage or problems of any kind to the 166 possible. beach. Leave the beach open.

tdm mcP 167 No The cape is crowded enough with beach goers and surfers. Give the dory fisherman a space to make their living. Tourism has been heavily promoted throughout Oregon since I was Mayor of Cascade Locks (2000-2006). We did a great job. Now we have tourists, campers and daytripers everywhere and they are not going away anytime soon.

I owned a vacation house in Pacific City for 18 years (lost in a divorce). Now I camp at the coast when I can get a reservation.

As I see it, all coastal counties need to build more campgrounds, parking lots and open some beaches for motor No tdm mcP ck pct vehicles. I've been saying for years that I would happily pay $200 for an annual beach parking pass. Don't offer daily passes. By not offering daily passes you kind of thin the herd....not all are going to buy a $200 pass and if they do that solves the budget issue for operational expenses.

You saw what happened this past summer, visitors are not going away anytime soon. So, embrace them. This is not a unique problem for coastal communities, mountain and high desert communities are experiencing similar issues. I understand a lot of locals don't want the crowds but its "the beach", people will always figure a way around what ever rules you put in place to keep them out. I have to assume enforcing a ban is about as expensive as embracing the 168 visitors. I myself love to drive the local beaches with my kids especially tierra del mar and would be very hurt if I couldn't, I tdm mcP ck pct 169 No live in tillamook and I would hope this wouldn't happen .

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The Cape is the popular tourist zone, so I agree that it should be closed down to vehicles because it becomes a "parking lot" in the heavy tourist season. However, I believe the other beaches should be open year-round or at the very least have a short season in which they are closed (July-Mid September). The residents of Pacific City and Tillamook No tdm mcP pct County should have the right to access the beach. I know a majority of the residents respect the beach and keep it clean. Along with that they want their own space and I believe it won't create a "parking lot" effect in the other areas. If actions to stop an unsafe use of the beaches in the heavy tourist season must be made, then at the very least a designated time during the year that the beaches are closed is viable. Thank you for reading. I am glad a survey is being 170 sent out for residents to weigh in on the issue. I hope our responses are taken into account. It bothers me and a lot of people in the community that our rights are taken away to accommodate the tourist industry. This is our back yard and having access to our beach is not only our right but it is also our way of life. The county No tdm mcP ck pct commissioners need to understand that there will be a political price to pay if they close the beaches to vehicle traffic. They also need to understand that the bulk of the people wanting closed beaches are not registered voters in tillamook 171 county. It is so much safer without all those cars on the beach. Dorymen should absolutely be allowed down there, but no one 172 Yes else. Please protect our beach and it’s ecosystem!

173 No tdm mcP pct Love parking on the beach at Cape Kiwanda so that my handicapped wife can watch the surfers and dory launches tdm mcP ck pct 174 No from the comfort of the car. 175 Yes None It is terrible for the environment and should not be allowed. The erosion problem isn’t getting better and tourists have clearly shown in recent years that they are not capable of 176 Yes respecting our beaches. You should have to buy a permit to drive on the beach and that permit fee should go directly to keeping the beaches Yes tdm mcP ck pct cleaned up of trash. Also only 4x4 vehicles should be eligible for a permit. Day permits and seasonal permits available 177 for residents. When done safely I see no issues. For the most we take great care when we enter beach access zones. There’s always tdm mcP ck pct 178 Yes the very few that mess it up for everyone. 179 Yes None Exception: handicap permits allowed access

180 Yes tdm mcP ck pct

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In the last 8 years I have seen an increase in the use of our beaches. It is horrible it looks like the Jersey shore or beaches in California and Florida. That is not what our beaches are for. These people come here they are rude, disrespectful and leave their litter and feces all over the place. I know for a fact that in Neskowin people couldn't even get into their driveways because cars were parked blocking them. It was so bad there, an emergency vehicle could not Yes get through the street. They were also pooping and peeing where ever they wanted to. In Pacific City they park their cars where ever they want and could care less if it inconveniences anyone. If you try and talk to them they do not care. Also what should take a few minutes to get from the four way stop in the middle of town to past the cape for local people to get home it was taking over twenty to twenty five minutes due to traffic congestion. This is unacceptable. Something needs to be done we local people can't even enjoy the beauty of our beaches because of all of these horrible 181 people invading our beaches.

182 No tdm mcP ck pct

We use the access at the turnaround to get away from all the tourist at the cape. We’ve lived in PC for many years and No tdm mcP ck pct have good friends that are generational PC residents. It’s one of the few places that isn’t overrun to get away in the 183 summer. My wife also has a medical issue that doesn’t allow her to walk long distances.

I live in Pacific City and have enjoyed beach access at many points along our stretch of coast. If cars can’t be on the beach where will they park? There is not enough parking available in and around the Pacific City area. When beach No tdm mcP pct access at Tierra Del Mar was closed it put more cars along the road side and it got very congested along the roadside there. People were crossing the road and pulling on and off the road with little warning. It created a dangerous situation for both pedestrians and drivers. The same has occurred in the past along Cape Kiwanda drive. With vehicle access 184 prohibited on the beach it puts more cars along roadsides and easily creates additional congestion and danger. 185 Yes None! Only dory boat haulers or emergency vehicles should be allow on the beaches It creates unsafe situations with on-street parking in these areas. It is public land, where the public should be able to tdm mcP ck pct 186 No access and utilize as they seem fit. There has never been an issue in the past, and people are even less social distanced at the parking lot than the when the tdm mcP ck pct 187 NO beach was opened

Beach driving has turned into a rather chaotic event on this stretch of the coast- gone are the days of fishermen launching their boats and families having a nice day at the river mouth. If the beaches are to open up we'll be seeing tons more trash, defacing of land, contaminated beach runoff, hazardous play area for families, etc. Having the access points closed has been great for our beaches but put a spotlight on our lack of infrastructure. So long as the beach is Yes closed, parking is limited. However, opening the beach will not solve that problem, it will simply make it worse. I like being able to take my niece down to the water without worrying if a drunk driver is going to speed past me in the sand like they've done many times before and my dog can chase her ball for miles without fear of being flattened by an irresponsible driver. I think at the very least, it should be banned due to the blatant disrespect of the beautiful stretch of 188 land we're all trying to protect.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 19 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow ONLY vehicles intended for launching boats and Kayaks should be allowed beach access for this sport and recreation 189 Yes purpose. PLEASE consider the importance of permitting boat and kayak launching vehicles. 190 Yes Vehicles don't belong on the beach. Not good for the environment.

The north side of Cape Kiwanda is the best and safest training site in Oregon for hang gliding. Hang gliders are too No tdm mcP heavy to reasonably be carried the distance from the road to the dune. Without vehicle access to that beach this premier site will be effectively unreachable. 191 During the many times I have visited Cape Kiwanda, I have never seen more than ten vehicles on this beach. We need to able to launch our kayaks and dorys in Pacific city. Also public should still have access to drive on Oregon tdm mcP ck pct 192 No beaches

Yes Vehicles should not be allowed on our beaches. Beaches are not roads or hiways. They are our opportunity to walk 193 unimpeded on the shores of our magnificent ocean without fear of us or our dogs being run over by negligent motorists.

194 No tdm mcP ck pct Anyone should be able to drive on the beach.

195 Yes Our lives and that of so many we speak with - and the children - are improved so much by no cars driving on the beach! McPhillips Dr, the access to the area north of Cape Kiwanda, is the only access to that area. What is so special about it is that generations of people have learned to Hang Glide at Cape Kiwanda on the north side, and now also we have Paragliding lessons there. The only change that would be good there is to stop traffic right before you get to the dune. No tdm mcP ck pct The area close to the due is somewhat fragile, with falling sandstone, and sometimes people will try to drive their vehicles up the dunes on the north side. A vehicle stop, such as to the south of Kiwanda, would be helpful, but not full 196 access denial. Please keep the existing controls for vehicle parking on South County beaches. The current restrictions are important to Yes tdm provide a safer, cleaner, more desirable environment for all users. 197

No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles allow people with limited mobility beach access where they couldn't otherwise reach. 198 Additionally, the north side of Cape Kiwanda is very difficult to reach for paragliding and hang gliding on foot.

199 No tdm mcP ck pct Oregonians have a long tradition of having full access to our beaches. It’s something we’ve always been proud of. tdm mcP ck pct 200 No Please continue that tradition. 201 Yes ck Dory and kayak launching at cape kiwanda

202 No tdm mcP ck pct

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In 31 years of living in this area I have never felt children are safe on the beaches when there are cars & trucks. There Yes should be vehicle access for boat launching and emergency vehicle use, and accommodation made for access by aged/infirm/handicapped people in some areas. Please take into account that opening access at Cape Kiwanda or the 203 Turnaround opens the beach to vehicles all the way south to the mouth of the Nestucca. Environmentally unfriendly and degrades habitats. Noise levels, litter, and required police protection are expenses 204 Yes None Locals should not have to absorb. I’m in favor of closing beaches to vehicle access. 205 No tdm ck pct You will force people to illegally park and then walk down roads with no sidewalks to get to the beach I would just like access the beach to launch my kayak so I can go fishing, but I understand everyone’s frustration with ck 206 No the increase population. Public beaches are public beaches. Lets not be like California and allow them to become unaccessible tdm mcP ck pct 207 No Vehicle access on the beach is unnecessary, hazardous to pedestrian beach goers, and high impact to the fragile Yes ecosystem. Exclusive pedestrian access is more than adequate for tourism needs, encourages healthy exercise, and 208 bolsters the allure of the beaches by simply designating beaches as "not highways". It is a fun and positive addition to life experience in Tillamook County. No harm is done. Closure would significantly reduce recreational access for older citizens, families with young children and the physically challenged. It would No tdm mcP ck pct restrict a resource that should be open to all, unfairly reserving it to the smaller population of the young and physically 209 fit. there is no reason to block the access points and try and make a privet beach we fought for public beaches and it should tdm mcP ck pct 210 No winema remain that way all people should get to enjoy or beaches handicapped an all

Cascade Paragliding Club has been an active part of this community for a number of years. The access north of Kiwana No tdm mcP is important for the training of new paragliders as well as for helping older paragliders retain their skill levels. It would 211 be a shame to see this access at Terra del Mar and McPhillips Drive shut down. Vehicles should ONLY be permitted trailing fishing boats to launch into the water. No other vehicles should be ck 212 Yes allowed - they erode the beach and pollute the beach. 213 Yes

I see no harm in staying with the way it has been for so many years. It part of Oregon history, the old time pictures No tdm mcP ck pct show how the city dwellers with flock to our beaches to enjoy themself, the same as they are doing today. 214

tdm mcP ck pct 215 No There was no reason to shut down the access to the outdoors and at the same time opening bar and grills hotels etc...

216 No tdm mcP ck pct Those of us who paraglide would really like to be able to drive out to the beach. Also, there is not enough parking to No tdm mcP ck pct handle all the people who want to visit the beach. So they park on the streets and everywhere in town they can walk 217 from. It clogs up the town.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 21 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I believe launch vehicles for dory boats or kayaks should be the only ones allowed and I believe KAYAKers should be tdm mcP ck pct 218 Yes considered a launch vehicle. Driving on the beach makes this section of the coast unique. I learned how to paraglide at the big dune and cutting off No tdm mcP ck pct driving access will make learning my sport and hang gliding much harder to learn and will eventually diminish our 219 sport in oregon as the dune is the main practice hill

This is a tradition of access for family activities and outdoor recreation that is symbolic for Oregon. The access points No tdm mcP ck pct represent such a small percentage of the states beach, it should be kept available for vehicles. More effort should be put 220 toward keeping vehicle beach-goers responsible for being safe and not leaving trash. I assume beach access was closed do to covid. Driving on the beach with the family for a picnic or play in the sand is tdm mcP ck pct 221 No one of the few recreational activities we can do safely while maintaining distance from others. I support allowing access to the beach in these areas. They have been traditionally used as such, and Vehicular access to the beach in these areas, if the beach is used properly, and maintained appropriately by its users is a nice asset to Yes tdm mcP ck access when we are at the coast. These areas are commonly used for vehicular access, and it would be a worthwhile 222 tradition to continue.

223 No tdm mcP ck pct

224 No tdm mcP ck pct It’s a minor paragliding site for SAFE training that needs car access

No tdm mcP We need access to the north side of Cape Kiwanda to use the designated Oregon State Park for hang gliding. I have 225 flown there since 1974 and it is one of the only designated Oregon State Parks for hang and para gliding.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 22 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I have been vacationing in Pacific City for 27 years and have been a permanent resident and homeowner since Aug. 2018. I am also have been a Tillamook Farmers Market vendor for two years. When the virus hit I watched as you closed the beaches AND the parking lots - instantly creating an on-street parking problem. Then you opened the parking lots but locked up access to the beaches for vehicles. The weather got better and the on-street parking got worse. Tierra Del Mar had nearly 200 cars lining both sides of a 45 mph road on the weekends. Then you opened Tierra Drl Mar - PROBLEM SOLVED. You did not open access to Cape Kiwanda (Pelican lot) and the parking problem remained. Open the beaches to vehicles to solve the parking problem. There WERE no issues with public opinion about driving on the beach. There WAS less garbage left behind because people would take it out in their vehicle as the packed up to leave. Put things back the way they were. It wasn't broke until you "fixed it". Yes - there were hundreds of vehicles on the beach on sunny weekends and now there are hundreds of vehicles choking the whole town and neighborhoods. No tdm mcP ck pct Residents are mad and becoming polarized over the issue YOU CREATED and YOU have the power to make it go away! The "path of least resistance" is clear. Rick Cosgrave Chief Executive Smoker

Seasmoked Foods, LLC P.O. Box 773had Pacific City, OR 97135 206-235-2751-Cell

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If those accessing the beach by vehicle are doing so in a respectful and safe manner then it should be allowed. As a No tdm mcP ck pct paraglider I have frequently visited Cape Kiwanda and always respected posted signage and maintained safety at all 227 times. I would love to regain vehicle access as it would save hiking with all the gear. Thank you for your time.

No mcP This is a huge beach with lots of space, having a vehicle let’s us choose space without people while not carrying kid 228 toy and gear for a 30m walk. My family loves this beach and have visited 4-5 times since Covid started. 229 No tdm

230 No tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 23 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow There are very limited places that remain for vehicle access to Oregon beaches. This location has been traditionally used as such and should remain. It provides access to the North Side of Kiwanda which helps reduce the overloading in Pacific City. It also provides KEY access to dunes for those who use the dunes to teach (jobs) and enjoy No mcP paragliding. I have seen very little impact in this location. Please do not take away our limited resource and access. There are plenty of other beaches nearby where vehicle access is not allowed should that be the experience one is 231 looking for. 232 Yes Our beaches are beautiful, I have the opportunity to enjoy them frequently on foot, I currently avoid beaches with 233 Yes vehicles due to safety concerns.

For emergency vehicles only with the Yes exception of vehicles launching boats 234 at Cape Kiwanda. I feel that beach access should only be allowed at Cape Kiwanda for vehicles launching dories and kayaks.

235 No tdm mcP pct Appropriate social distancing is very easy to maintain while outside on a beach. Was this an issue before Covid ? I don’t remember it being one so why not open the beaches back up the way it was tdm mcP ck pct 236 No before? I think vehicles should be allowed, driving on the beach safely is fun and part of the oregon expirence. I do think they should only be open to vehicles during certain times of the year specifically beginning of October-end of No tdm mcP ck pct May....thought it was silly to have the beaches closed to driving all summer untill labor day weekend...if beaches do close to cars, there will need to be a parking solution as we saw so many cars on sandlake road and all over pacific city 237 streets parked illegally, causing traffic, etc. I think a bigger hazard would occur if everyone has to park on the street. There is not enough parking areas! It also tdm mcP ck pct 238 No allows handicapped people and elderly people to enjoy the beach! Alowing vehicles on the beach will alleviate a lot of parking congestion in Pacific City. Accessing/driving to the mouth No tdm mcP ck pct of the Nestucca river via the “Turn Around” for crabbing, clamming, kayaking and SUPing has always brought great 239 joy to our family

Yes Oregon beaches should be safe for all people and all wildlife to enjoy and live on. Motorized vehicles do nothing to 240 preserve the natural beauty we cherish. I see no advantage to allowing motorized vehicles on our beaches.

241 No tdm mcP pct

tdm mcP pct 242 No Closing access at Kiwanda is necessary due to overcrowding. Access should be allowed at less crowded points. 243 Yes Please, no cars or other motorized vehicles on our south county beaches. 244 Yes None No vehicles on beach. Safety hazard, and pollution hazard. Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 24 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 245 Yes Please allow beach access for vehicles again, this has always been such a special freedom allowed in Oregon, thank NO 246 tdm mcP ck pct you!! As a paraglider and kite surfer, brewing able to drive onto the beaches makes a huge difference in allowing me access NO 247 tdm mcP pct to the spots I love on the coast.

I have lived in Pacific City for over 50 years and in previous years enjoyed occasionally driving on the beach to the mouth of the river. Those days are long gone with the quanity of cars in Pacific City trying to drive on the beach. Visitors are disrespectful of the rules and it is a dangerous situation. I can see the use at the Turn-a-round on a daily use when it was open. People gun up their car or truck to get over the dune with no idea who is on the other side..often Yes children and families. At least one truck or car get stuck a day. They need to dig it out or call for a tow truck. I can see the tracks of the vehicles up in the dunes and places that they are not allowed to drive. They drive too fast! Not allowing cars on the beach at Cape Kiwanda has pushed on the cars to other areas and the impact is greater than ever. Why should other area be the new playground for cars on the beach? All beach access should be closed in South 248 Tillamook County. 249 No tdm mcP ck pct

Yes Vehicles launching dories should be allowed. Handicap access should be allowed. All other vehicle access should not 250 be allowed. It is a hazard to people enjoying the beaches. I am a frequent visitor to Pacific City. Thank you.

Regarding McPhillips Drive in particular, beach access to the north side of Cape Kiwanda is absolutely paramount to the freeflight community. Virtually every single hang glider and paraglider pilot in Oregon has used the cape as a training area due to its consistency in weather and perfect setup as a training hill. Most of us had our first flights there and continue to enjoy it regularly. Personally I know of no other place in the entire PNW region thats used as a "bunny hill" as safely as the cape. The ability to launch from low altitude and land on soft sand allows for skill building in a relatively safe environment and nowhere else I'm aware of in the state can provide as good of an experience. No Since the shutdown, hang gliding instruction has all but stopped, and paragliding instruction has been severely restricted since we're unable to transport our gear to the cape without hiking from the north side. A reasonably healthy person can hike over with a single paraglider, but not a hang glider, and instructors typically show up with several gliders at a time. Before the shutdown, it would be common for 20-30 of us to be there on any given day having fun and honing our skills, and I've met people that have traveled from as far as British Columbia and Colorado just to take advantage of this unique site. Since the shutdown I haven't seen more than 4-5 at a time, and not a single hang glider. 251 tdm mcP The importance of access to this area for our little community cannot be overstated. Thank you for reading. 252 No tdm mcP ck pct I am a resident of Tierra del Mar. Since opening car access, there is much more garbage left on the beach plus Yes 253 ck pct irresponsible driving (cutting cookies, driving fast, etc). 254 No ck Vehicle access should remain allowed for launching of boats and watercraft (pwc and kayaks).

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Until such time as the County has the resources to provide effective enforcement of posted notifications, stop erratic Yes driving behavior on the beach, protect the beach habitat and provide equitable consideration, treatment and service 255 delivery to all County residents, the County should just close down all beach access points. 256 Yes In addition to being unsightly, vehicles on the beach are environmentally problematic and dangerous to people walking, and especially young children playing on the beach. The beach is a place where one should focus on the ocean Yes and not have to watch out for cars and trucks cruising by. I have seen way too many cars stuck in the sand as the tide vehicles for dory comes in. Parking in our communities is a problem and definitely needs to be addressed, but the beach is not the place 257 launching only to use as a parking lot. Cars driving on the beach are bad and disruptive for nature (birds) and also dangerous for pedestrians (to avoid getting stuck in sand cars need to drive fast and can easily swerve in all directions). In addition, parked cars block and ruin the Yes view on a beach. If sufficient public parking is provided in coastal towns then no beach access for cars should be 258 None needed (other than for boat launching).

The North side of Cape Kiwanda (McPhillips & Tierra Del Mar access) has historically been much less crowded than No the south side beach. The Activities made available by allowing vehicle access on the North side are some of the Oregon Coast's true pleasures, including an amazing historical Paragliding and Hang gliding access. Removing this 259 tdm mcP access would truly be a detriment to the spirit of Oregon and it's much enjoyed perspective on public land usage. On busy weekends it is dangerous to have so many cars on the beach and it also depletes the experience of enjoying Yes 260 our beautiful beaches. 261 No mcP

I have friends within the Oregon surfing community who experience joy in the ocean with their disabled children. I fully support the community supporting these people and others with unique circumstances that are helped by vehicle No access. I support limiting vehicle access but maintaining where appropriate, which includes but is not limited to access for disabled or injured people. Use of badging or permits would create additional hassle. I think signage that states 262 tdm mcP ck pct “vehicle access is discouraged but allowed As necessary...” or something to that effect would be appropriate. Things have changed drastically out here on the coast since the influx of visitors during COVID-19. I understand that people need to get out once in awhile. However, vehicles on the beach are getting out of hand. SUggest just allowing Yes NO vehicles on people and dogs on the beach. Perhaps make a wooden path that is wheelchair accessible for a beach so everyone can 263 county beaches enjoy the ocean. Restricting vehicle access to public beaches prohibits fare access for people with limited mobilty. As a person who No uses a wheelchair driving onto the beach provides me access which I would not otherwise be able to. Please do not 264 tdm mcP ck pct deny my access to the already limited beaches available to handicapped people. 265 Yes ck Vehicles should be not be allowed at McPhillips and not at Tierra Del Mar. Park and walk.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 26 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Vehicle access to beaches is critical for small craft launch and recovery. In addition, vehicle access to the beach provides freedom of access for people and families with physical or situational restrictions that would otherwise No prevent access. Outside of these critical access issues, families have been building memories for years with the unique experience of being able to drive right to the beach and use their vehicle as "home base". Taking this unique 266 tdm mcP ck pct experience away from future generations makes for a poorer future.

No Visiting the beach is a great stress reliever. Allowing vehicle access reduces person to person contact as people walk 267 tdm mcP ck pct from overcrowded roadways to enjoy activities near the ocean. Let people and their cars back on the sand. The restriction of vehicle access on the beach has never made any sense as a response to COVID. Use your head No 268 tdm mcP ck pct people.

Vehicular Access allows for a unique recreation experience for fisherman, paragliders, picnicers, etc. If No volume/overcrowding is an issue there are alternatives to an all out ban. For example, look into the river permit system as implemented on the Deschutes. Other areas have found success with designated days for different user groups (ie 269 tdm mcP horses allowed Saturdays, mountain bikers allowed sunday's, etc). Don't give in to cancel culture. Yes it can get overcrowded so please limit the amount of vehicles allowed. It simply makes a harsh Coast much more No 270 ck family friendly. I do love to see families enjoying the beach and having fun, but find vehicles on the beach so invasive and disruptive, to downright rude. I think the dory boats are wonderful and should always of course have access to get into and out of Yes dory boat access the ocean easily. Beyond that, there is no reason for vehicles to be on the beach, especially where people are walking 271 at Cape Kiwanda and playing. Vehicles on the beach is dangerous, especially for kids and dogs. It allows people to bring more trash and things that litter our ocean as well. Without vehicle access, there is reduced fire issues and litter on our beaches, also less Yes fireworks. Vehicles also allow people to bring more alcohol with them which leads to drinking and driving and other dangerous activities and bad behavior. I feel much safer on the beach when we don’t have the vehicles. Makes for a 272 much more pleasant beach experience in every way.

Yes Beach access for the dory fleet only. Motor vehicles driving on the beach are a hazard to the public, wildlife, marine 273 life, and the first responders who have to rescue the people who abuse the privilege of driving on the beach. Vehicle access is one of the main reasons we choose to visit Tillamook County Beaches as it allows us to distance ourselves from the crowds that form around main parking areas. Without vehicle access, you are reducing the usable No beach to within a reasonable walking distance from available parking. Not to mention the mobility challenged, whose potential only chance to visit and enjoy the beach is by vehicle. Please reconsider the vehicle restriction, it is one of our 274 tdm mcP ck pct most favorite things to do in Tillamook Co.! Please consider opening the beaches back up for vehicles. My favorite thing to do is take my dog down to the Nestucca rivermouth and let her run and swim! She has a hard time with large crowds and the remoteness of the area is the best No thing for her. I would not be able to take her to her favorite place if it weren't for vehicle access. Thank you for 275 tdm mcP ck pct reconsidering.

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My father's favorite place in the world was the beach. He unfortunately lost his battle to cancer a couple years ago, but while he was still battling, he wanted to visit the beach one last time. He wasn't strong enough to make the walk from No the parking lot. Fortunately we were able to drive down to the hard packed sand where he got the chance to put his feet in the water one last time. Without vehicle access, this wouldn't have been possible. Please reconsider the prohibition 276 tdm mcP ck pct of vehicle access in Tillamook CO. Thank you. Hello, Vehicle access at McPhillips drive has helped Hang Gliders and Paragliders access the north side of the Cape Kiwanda No dune for over 30 years... it is very very difficult to get equipment over there without this access. Thanks for your hard 277 tdm mcP work and consideration of Vehicle access at these points. Beaches are for the public as dictated by the public trust doctrine. Driving on the beach is an outstanding experience No 278 tdm mcP ck pct that should continue to be permitted if done so appropriately.

Enjoying a day at the beach almost always requires things such as lawn chairs, a barbecue pit, pop up tents, and when No appropriate wood for a beach fire. These accoutrements are problematic if trying to transport them to a beach location without the assistance of a vehicle. Additionally, use of a vehicle on the beach allows beach goers to spread out along a 279 tdm mcP longer stretch of beach and not gather simply at convenient walking access points. The beaches are so much nicer since vehicles have been banned. Please keep them off. And thank you for all that you Yes 280 do for our community.

I am a permanent resident of Pacific City. I feel strongly that allowing vehicles on the beaches desecrates the natural beauty and disrupts the fragile environment of birds: snowy plovers, pelicans, sandpipers, seagulls, eagles, ducks, etc., Yes and animals. Additionally, it endangers dogs and kids running free on the sand and in the surf. On crowded days the deep ruts and the gaggles of people around the huge trucks and rigs that predominate near the Kiwanda Parking Lot ramp make it hazardous to walk through with my dogs even when they are on a leash. 281 Can you imagine motor vehicles on Manzanita or Cannon Beach? Why is our beach less worth protecting? 282 Yes We have given so much over to automobile use without a few places to walk and contemplate as we have for almost all of human history. There is really no good reason for an automobile to be on the beach other than in emergencies and to Yes launch dories. Enough of the thrill rides and then having to have another rig pull you out when you get stuck if you're lucky enough. 283 284 No mcP ck I am a paraglider and would greatly appreciate closer access to use the dunes for recreation! Thanks! It's just absolutely unsafe at Cape Kiwanda, there's just to much traffic, plus a brewery which adds to the number of YES inebriated people on the beach and the dory operators having the right of way is over pedestrians is absolutely 285 tdm pct ludicrous. 286 No mcP some places are fine . Others not

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 28 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Historic access to these access points should not be closed. I would agree that seasonal closures at Hungry Harbor No Drive would be appropriate. Closing Hungry Harbor Drive from July-September would be an appropriate management 287 tdm mcP ck pct strategy. If the beaches are closed to parking, then where is a person supposed to park to access the beach? The few parking lots are either full or roped off since the beaches have been closed. There are many No Parking signs in Pacific City all the No way up to Tiera Del Mar. I live in Cloverdale, four miles from the beach yet too far to walk. If you want to close the beaches for vehicles then the lack of parking should be addressed first. I don’t mind hiking a bit to access the beach if 288 tdm mcP ck vehicles are prohibited, but I must park my car somewhere. Way too dangerous for autos to be on the beach at Cape Kiwanda. The other areas (mcPhillips, turnaround, tdm are Yes much more suitable to cars on the beach. How about a permit sale for these locations similar to the off road permits? 289 tdm mcP pct Too many ca4s not equipped for beach transit try it and get stuck. 290 Yes tdm mcP ck pct It's good way to get the old and disabled into the water Cape Kiwanda is a beautiful paragliding site, please help keep these natural beautiful places available to the public to No 291 tdm ck pct use with respect. Since vehicles have been prohibited on the beach, traffic and parking in this area has been out of control and No dangerous. This is made worse by local parking restrictions which are extremely unreasonable. Beach parking is 292 tdm mcP ck pct needed to relieve this issue. Have special permits for handicapped I’ve lived here since 1987 and this place has changed more in just the past two to three years than in all the previous Yes access that can years. We need a safe place to recreate, without dodging cars and trucks. We locals cannot even enjoy our “backyard” be purchased any more without fighting our way down there. I’m hoping if we restrict vehicles then we might also restrict the hordes through kiosks of “Day-trippers” who mainly come here BECAUSE they can drive on the beach. Let them find a different beach to 293 on site. drive on. Ours is too small. 294 No tdm mcP ck pct Stupid

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I chose to live in Pacific City in large part for the unique access to beach by vehicle. I have mobility limitations from old orthopedic injury and cannot walk the distance from my house or a parking spot (if I found one) to the beach. Vehicle access also allows my friends and family and I to have the amenities nearby to spend the day at the beach including chairs, toys for the kids, boards, lunch supplies, etc. It may seem funny but the vehicles also provide as a wind block from the typical north summer wind which is quite pleasant. Vehicle access also allow us to enjoy the beach on busy days because we can drive toward the mouth from the turnaround or to Tierra Del Mar where there is more space to recreate. Other key points in favor of vehicle access: * There is more room/parking for the many visitors and locals who want to enjoy our beaches as parking is very limited. No * People can more easily haul away their garbage etc back home instead of to the dumpsters, or worse to be left on beach, etc. * Most people are respectable and safe. There could be more signage and/or monitoring to be sure speed limit and safe driving is obeyed and limiting access to 4WD vehicles only. * Could generate money for the state if state park permit was required. Or if Tillamook County could charge for beach I would access, the county could make money. understand the To dispute those who oppose vehicles on the beach, they can go elsewhere to nearby Neskowin, Oceanside, Rockaway cape not being Beach, etc. Most of our beaches don't have vehicles, so it shouldn't be difficult to avoid them. open from Additionally, to those who live or own businesses in PC or TDM who oppose vehicles on the beach could have located memorial day to elsewhere. There is a long standing tradition of vehicles on the beaches in our area and those who don't like them 295 labor day could live or do business elsewhere.

I am thrilled that Tillamook County is re-considering vehicle access on our beaches! I have always hoped this day would come. Vehicles dominate so many aspects of our lives, to also see them when walking on the beach is jarring Yes and no fun. They also disturb wildlife and destroy habitat. I would be in favor of a special access permit for handicapped persons, but I feel strongly that cars should be banned from our beaches! It has been an absolute JOY to 296 walk the beach in Pacific City/Tierra Del Mar without cars. Thank you!! 297 Yes Emergency, patrol and boat launch vehicles should be the only exceptions to a total ban. I live in pacific city year round so hope not to lose access completely. I would understand not allowing it at the cape or No 298 tdm mcP pct limiting it or making it seasonal.

Yes Vehicle access should be restricted to emergency vehicles. There are getting to be too many tourists using the beaches. 299 Tillamook County can not afford to add the additional law enforcement necessary to deal with all the vehicles.

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Vehicle access has been closed to the majority of beaches in Oregon, not to mention the country. If you want to find a beach that has no vehicles it’s not hard to find. Please continue to allow vehicle access to the beaches in the Tillamook area. Within the paragliding and free flight community alone, by having vehicle access to the beach provides access to one of the more frequently used flying sites, Cape Kiwanada. We don’t use the vehicle access to simply drive around No on the beach, we use it to gain access to our sport. Cape Kiwanda is an essential flying site that provides training to new pilots as well as practice for experienced pilots to learn and maintain flying skills. The unique qualities of Cape Kiwanda make it ideal for learning and practice in a safe environment that other flying sites simply do not have. Please consider these factors before closing vehicle access to the beach. Doing so would be detrimental to our flying 300 tdm mcP ck pct community. I’ve only seen a need for the dory fishermen to drive on the beach. All others...... totally un necessary. I believe doing Yes 301 so is Damaging to the beach and ecosystem.

I'd like to see beach access continue, but be managed. The Kiwanda parking lot beach access is chaotic and unsafe. If No you can provide appropriate convenient access to the beach, people will not need to take their cars on the beach. Don't discontinue the rights of the public to have beach access at Tierra Del Mar and McPhillips, but just limit WHERE they 302 tdm mcP can access it. (McPhillips access point needs to be maintained so it's vehicle safe) 303 Yes I think it is best for the environment to not drive cars on the beach. Vehicles on beaches in our south Tillamook County is ridiculously unsafe, especially for small children, older adults, Yes or people with a variety of disabilities. Secondly, this natural gem of peacefulness, fun, and livelihood feels destroyed 304 and undesirable with vehicles on the beach. No longer do all feel welcome.

These are the very few areas of Oregon’s northern coast that are accessible by vehicle, and the only areas disabled No people may get their feet in the sand. We understand and support the need to protect and keep Oregon’s beaches safe, 305 tdm mcP ck pct but we cannot exclude an entire population of disabled persons and others from access.

There is much more trash on the beach at Cape Kiwanda when cars were allowed to drive on the beach. In addition there were many issues related to vehicles getting stuck on the beach or entering beach / exiting beach. Tierra del Mar and McPhillips Drive seem like a good option for beach access and have much less human traffic. There is also a Yes greater "assumed responsibility" that comes with less people wondering on the sand and therefore hopefully more responsible behavior. I believe the Turnaround needs to be closed off as well. Trucks driving at a high rate of speed up both sides of the dune with very limited visibility is very dangerous! It needs to also be mentioned that Sand Lake is 306 tdm mcP already a ORV access point and very popular. 307 No Everywhere It's public property. You don't have the right to prohibit access. Vehicles should be allowed full access to the beach. Education on what make good beach going vehicles should be No 308 tdm mcP ck pct continued. 309 No tdm mcP ck pct It's the law! Oswald 310 Yes All Yes yes yesterday

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 31 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I think it is a tradition that people really still enjoy in our county. The only beach that is so crowded that it seems No 311 tdm mcP pct dangerous is the main parking lot with access in Pacific City next to the Pelican restaurant. 312 No tdm mcP pct 313 No tdm mcP ck pct They should be allowed. Require a permit and charge $25 bucks. Extra revenue stream.

Any other legal No access point not 314 mentioned. Don't try to change a tire that is not flat. This is a very bad idea. You need to think about this and not just act now. It's not a problem if people are driving responsibly. I have driven these beaches for over 30 years and the only problem No 315 tdm mcP ck are the careless and drunk drivers on the beach. Deal with them and not penalize the rest of us Being able to drive on the beach is one of the things that make Oregon stand out. Plus, parking at Tillamook county No 316 tdm mcP ck pct beaches is very limited. 317 Yes ck Only allow vehicles on beach for dory boat AND kayak launching. 318 No Everywhere Super awesome sauce! stay on the when i first came to Oregon, in 1961, I remember cars on the beaches, and almost got run over. have seen cars get Yes driving roads, claimed by the ocean, buried in deep wet sand, and always wondered how, why of all places, did Oregon allow driving 319 not the sand! on the beach. Please do not let this happen again, stop driving on the beach. 320 No tdm mcP ck pct Motorized vehicles (with the exception of emergency responders) do *not* belong on the beach! It is ecologically, Yes environmentally, and aesthetically problematic, and contributes to environmental degradation (remember- shorebirds 321 and other species call the beach their home; we are just visitors). We bought a house here 12 years ago because we could drive on the beach. My parents' who are aren't disabled, but do have mobility issues really miss being able to drive down to Haystack Rock for beach days with the family. Perhaps Yes paid permits for parking / driving on the beach are the way to go? Please open it back up so that we can drive on the 322 tdm mcP ck pct beach again at Cape Kiwanda, the Turnaround and McPhillips. Cape Kiwanda - ok to continue to limit access to the beach to the dory fleet and kayak fishing. For pedestrian Yes beachgoers, there's no real reason to allow them to park on the beach if it cannot be managed with current resources. 323 ck Same for other locations...

No 324 tdm mcP ck pct The beach should be accessible to all people for purposes beyond just dory fishing. (Someone who supports fishing) It will increase distancing between crowds and facilitate beach cleanup when leaving. Furthermore, the parking lots in No 325 tdm mcP ck pct place do not suffice for the volume of beach visitors. 326 No All acess Identify and Add more acess points Totally unnecessary to drive a vehicle on the beach. This increases risk of injuries, environmental pollutions, disturbs people who seek a quiet place to relax, affects animals, consumes county’s resources and probably many more. What Yes are the pros? Convenience/laziness? “Because I used to drive on the beach in the past”? Very weak arguments in my 327 eyes.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 32 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Bayocean No Peninsula, Being able to drive on the beach is a long-standing tradition. Perhaps it could be limited to county residents or require 328 summer only a $5 annual permit, but it should be kept! 329 No tdm mcP ck pct Seasonal summer closure at Cape Kiwanda beach only for everyone except dorymen

Will eliminate stupid __ tourist trespassing though people’s yards because that’s the fastest way to the beach. avoid stupid tourist parking along the hwy risking getting hit, their vehicle getting hit, and will allow people to pull off the road for emergency vehicles to go by and there is less GARBAGE left behind.. Also it will allow the locals to avoid they high tourist population at the cape by going to McPhillips, as a LOCAL that GREW UP DRIVING ON THE No BEACH it has allowed me to make great memories anywhere from bonfires while listening to music from our truck speakers after winning a football game or baseball game nothing beat loading up the truck beds full of wood before the game to go to a post game bonfire, or just board you and your buddies go for a cruise up and down the beach then go get pizza at dory land and sit on the tail gate and just eat pizza. If you permanently shut down driving on the beach will be the stupidest ___ thing any of you guys can do... Honestly lost of words you guys even shut it down and are even 330 tdm mcP ck pct thinking about keeping them closed for ever...

Yes 331 Vehicles on the beach create a safety hazard for children, pets and wildlife. They pollute and are an eye sore. 332 No tdm mcP ck pct 333 No Sandlake No reason not to allow it other than grumpy Karen’s who don’t even own the land not wanting them there 334 No mcP ck

No Part of the reason we have a second home at Pacific City is the access to the beach with a vehicle. We enjoy being able 335 tdm ck pct to drive on the beach and pick a spot and bbq and or just sit and enjoy the beautiful Oregon beach. It would increase traffic, litter, uncontrolled crowds, accidents, trespassing, interference with dories & environment & Yes 336 crime. 337 No tdm mcP ck pct It allows more access to parking and will allow more people to enjoy the beach. There is plenty of space.

Vehicle access should only be allowed for persons with disabilities who need special conveyance/assistance, and/or person(s) assisting those disabled persons. No Example: If a disabled person(s) would like to access the ocean for sports, they and their equipment (kayak, sup, surfboard, safety gear, etc.) may need to be transported to the water and back so they can participate in rectreational activity(ies). Their vehicle, the vehicle of the person assisting them, and/or the vehicle of the person providing them a 338 All Beaches recreational service should be allowed access to the beach for whatever period is necessary.

Vehicles should be aloud to access the points that gives them the opportunity to utilze the beach and the mouth of the No Nestucca and Sandlake estuary. There is crabbing, shrimping and clamming done at both areas. Everyone does not own 339 tdm mcP pct a boat. The PC turnaround could be set up like it was in the past for easy and safe access.

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I am against Tillamook county Beach access closures! I have been going to the Oregon beaches for 30 years and I have always enjoyed the beach access- it is a unique and incredible feeling to be able to drive along the ocean with no No obstructions to ruin the view. I learned to fly hang gliders at North Cape Kiwanda beach. Without beach access that would NEVER have happened! Driving on the beach in this small area is something that has always made the Oregon 340 tdm mcP ck pct coast special for me and I doubt I would think of visiting or living in Oregon without that priviledge I’m a 70 yr old native. I have driven on most beaches where allowed. It’s time to end it. I also try to pick up trash. YES 341 Where vehicles are allowed there is more trash. Period.

I have lived here nearly 70 yrs. I don't remember anyone getting ran over on the beaches. I know locals who use their own gas and time to drive down and pick up garbage off the beach. As a local , I notice people with their own agendas No seem to be striping away at the locals freedom to enjoy our beautiful beaches. The fire chief seems to have his own agenda here to, that should be closely looked at to. If you would remove some of the sand, so people could park and enjoy the view at the Turnaround, it would take some of the pressure off the Pelican Pubs parking lot. Opps,I mean the 342 tdm mcP ck pct Cape Kiwanda parking lot. As my dear friend used to say, deep pockets, turn heads ! 343 Yes CLOSE ALL ACCESS TO BEACH EXCEPT HUNGRY HARBOR DRIVE FOR DORYS ONLY

I am in the area nearly every week day. These closures have caused unsafe conditions for pedestrians and vehicle traffic. People drive vehicles, that’s how they get here. Let them spread out on the beaches and not bunch them up No along the streets and beach accesses. If anything, these closures have made conditions more dangerous. The demand for outdoor recreation is increasing and not going away. We need to fill that demand with sustainable recreation areas and activities. If we don’t, the increasing masses of people will find it on their own and continue to overwhelm and 344 tdm mcP ck pct destroy our facilities and forests. Contact me for more ideas, I’d be glad to help. People can enjoy the beach on foot. Yes 345 tdm The beach is dangerous with vehicles on it. 346 No tdm mcP ck pct Cars don't belong on the beach. Safety hazard for families and children. Vars leak oil and other fluids on the beach Yes 347 None creating pollution problems. As a Paraglider, drive up access is essential to get to the N side of the dune, especially with family and young kids in No tow. Flying the dune is an incredible and special spot and we would be heartbroken if access is not opened back up. 348 tdm mcP ck We visit from Bend two to four times a year. 349 No None I have owned a home in Tierra del Mar for approximately 35 years. Up until the last couple of years, the rules which allowed driving north of vehicle access point which is just to the south of TDM between Labor Day and Memorial Day produced a reasonable amount of vehicle access. Over the past three years or so, two things have increased Yes significantly: the number of people using the beach adjacent to TDM and the number of vehicles on the beach. When children are on the beach, they are running everywhere and drivers, quite naturally, are looking at the ocean and the 350 scenery. A risky combination. 351 No tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 34 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 352 No tdm mcP ck pct My wife can't walk very far and she likes to go the beach. 353 No tdm mcP ck pct It is much more safe and secure and allows for easy distancing of your family and others 354 No tdm mcP ck pct

If the county decides any or all of these beaches should be accessible to autos I would ask for the following: 1) No driving any time north of beach entrance at Tierra Del Mar (residential area, wildlife sanctuary) 2) No driving after sunset - too many examples of reckless, fast driving at night making it extremely dangerous for people walking or sitting in the sand in the dark. 3) Clear, large signage at entrance to all beaches with speed limits, no camping signs, specific safety instructions for Yes driving on the beach, directional signs at Tierra Del Mar 4) Consistent enforcement with routine patrols. I have seen ATV's racing at night on the beach. Large, loud trucks doing "donuts" during the day and night over and over. I have seen children running near the beach entrance at TDM while vehicles drive by at high speeds. Seems like at some point there will be a bad accident on the beach due to high speeds and erratic driving. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY THOUGHTS 355 The fact that many people are parking on the beach should not be the reasoning for closure. If boaters get access then No paragliders should too. Kiwanda is a frequently used training site. There are plenty of miles of sand where vehicles are 356 tdm mcP not allowed. 357 Yes They are not safe and people are not smart. 358 Yes tdm I believe that allowing vehicles on the beach is both unsightly and unsafe. It also runs counter to sound environmental Yes 359 policy. Lately drivers have been unsafe and dogs have been loose in Tierra Del Mar, even with a bad experience or two, a No beauty about Oregon beaches belonging to ALL Oregonians is the motorized access on them. It should be maintained 360 tdm mcP pct WITH some supervision! 361 No tdm mcP ck pct It helps disabled people enjoy the parks.

No Dory access only 362 tdm mcP pct at Cape Kiwanda. Cape Kiwanda Dory access only. Enforce the parking and camping laws that are already in place. 363 Yes I don’t think motorized vehicle’s have any place on a beach.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 35 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Oregon's beaches are a public treasure - a place of quiet contemplation, family play, and natural beauty. They provide one place, open to all, where we can get away from our motorized society and enjoy some peace. Vehicles on the beach destroy that fragile calm.

Yes There are many, many places in the state where those who enjoy driving can do so. There's no need to add the state's famously beautiful beaches to that list.

At no point on I live near the beach, and strongly oppose vehicular access to the beach. It adds nothing essential, and destroys the 364 the beach. peace that many of us treasure. 365 Yes No need to use vehicles on the beach. Keep it for pedestrians. Driving on the beach is what makes pacific city great. I’ve witnessed multiple fights and aggressive driving in the No 366 tdm mcP ck pct parking lot due to limited parking. It is absurd that there is an exception for dory boats . I think vehicles for the disabled SHOULD be the only vehicles allowed on the beach. It is often the only way they can No 367 enjoy the beach. 368 No tdm mcP pct All vehicles assisting in Dory Launching must be allowed They have enough access points now. Vehicles going by walkers or people sitting on the beach cause a great deal of No 369 tdm mcP ck stress. There are far too many people on the beach now to mix vehicles and people. We need to preserve the beaches, keep Yes people safe, and protect the wildlife. It gets a lot more rowdy with vehicles on the beach. It is even worse in pacific 370 Not at all City with the boats coming in as well. 371 No tdm mcP ck pct Our beaches are a precious commodity. Please ban all vehicle (except Dory Boat Fleet) access on our pristine YES 372 None beaches. Too many vehicular traffic and way too much trash. 373 No mcP ck 374 No tdm mcP ck pct I like having vehicles on the beach in this location. I am against the use of vehicles (excepting Dory boats) on the Beach from the cape, south to the mouth of the Nestucca. My wife and I are 12 year permanent resident of Pacific city and my daughter and son-in-law will eventually Yes live in this home and they feel the same way. It seems a lot more natural since vehicles have been banned and that's 375 what Oregon is about. Thanks! 376 Yes The Dory fishery should be allowed beach access. But not the public. It’s what makes Oregon, Oregon. Most people that have lived here for a long time want to keep it as past practice. It’s too bad everyone is moving here and trying to turn it into California. Make it a free permit or something if you need to No regulate use. Or even to Tillamook county residents during the off season. How is an old guy supposed to take his dog 377 tdm mcP ck pct Manzanita to the beach. Beaches should be for walking, beach games and such. The only vehicles should be emergency vehicles. This could Yes 378 mean more parking is needed, for instance at Pacific City. 379 No tdm mcP ck pct Please do not take away more of our heritage 380 No tdm mcP ck pct Me and my family have grown up taking our kids to the beach via truck for decades, dont change that

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It’s one of the many few places you can drive on the beach anymore. Pacific city and surrounding areas rely on tourist company and by closing the beach access by vehicle you will lose a significant amount just because of beach access. Yes it gets busy, yes it gets packed, but not only is it tourists, it’s locals as well. We have dory fisherman, surfers, and No local gatherings on the beach constantly. I believe it would be a very poor decision to close the access. There was nothing I looked forward to more sometimes in the fall, after a good football game at Nestucca High school. That was driving my pickup down on the beach to all sit on our tailgates with all our buddies, around a nice fire and talk about 381 tdm mcP ck pct the game and life. I will miss those days and I hope we can still do that in the future.

For years I have seen cars and trucks at the south end of the Pacific City beach where the Nestucca River meets the Yes Parking lots, not ocean. Many more people get there by car and they bother the seals that congregate there. Beaches are where people 382 beaches. relax and enjoy family time and the cars going by are annoying. Please prohibit cars and trucks on the beaches.

We need to continue to protect Oregon's many beautiful public beaches from the ills that have ruined beaches in other Yes places. Cars annoy and harass everyone who is not in the car, and are dangerous to children and animals. The argument that they provide a really fun joyride is not sufficiently strong to outweigh the dangers cars bring to beaches; and a car 383 joyrider's entertainment is everyone else's annoyance as well. There is a good reason to severely restrict motor vehicle use on Oregon s public beaches, and that is safety. I refer here to actual danger of being injured by a vehicle on the beach, but perhaps more importantly, to the perception That beaches with motor vehicles driving on them are unsafe for pedestrians, especially children. All that said, I have never encountered recklessness on the part of a driver while I was walking on the beach, but I have always been acutely aware that the potential is there. I worry particularly since beach use appears to be steadily increasing. Pedestrian crowding at the beach is something we will all need to learn to live with. Crowding with a mix of motor vehicles and Yes pedestrians is asking for trouble. Allowing motor vehicles on the beach at all for other purposes than launching dories seems a questionable practice to begin with. As beaches get more crowded, it only makes sense to restrict motor vehicle use.

I checked the box for keeping Cape Kiawanda open to vehicles (I would suggest between the life buoy stand and the dory launching area) because the beach serves as overflow parking at a location where public parking facilities are 384 ck often overwhelmed. 385 No tdm mcP ck pct Yes 386 None Access should only be for special purposes--i.e. Dory boats, handicap/disabilities, emergency or other special needs In my opinion there is no reason to allow vehicles on to the beaches other than for emergency use. Vehicles on the beaches have a negative impact on others who are present and in some cases can provide dangerous situations. In Yes addition they have the potential to damage that environment in cases where they leak oil, produce excess exhaust 387 smoke etc. None of the I presently reside in a beach community. Vehicle use makes the beach considerable less pleasant for beach users, Yes 388 above including people who use the beach with their children or dogs.

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My thoughts are that whatever the outcome is the rules need to be enforced. If there is money raised from parking fees etc one of the major components should be that tickets are written. Not warnings ( it does no good to "warn" someone for camping the morning after they camped, to give them warnings when they are exceeding the speed limit by a huge margin, warn them that they shouldn't have parked there, warn them that they didn't read the signs about no access) warnings don't do any good at all when the majority of the offenders only plan on visiting that one time, or have learned that they are only going to be warned, so why the heck not. If tickets were being issued word would get out and management would be so much easier for the officials that are fighting a losing battle at enforcement. Rules without consequences are useless. I feel that having the cape itself closed to all vehicles but dories is a good solution with the other areas open, but monitored for illegal and reckless behaviors with CONSEQUENCES. Also to No note...having the parking area at Mcphillips open without the beach access doesn't seem like a great idea, as getting up onto the highway is not for the faint of heart. Those of us that drive responsibly and obey the rules get frustrated at people speeding by us into the restricted areas, doing cookies, using atvs on the cape itself on the North side. The frustration is more than doubled when we see them getting a gentle warning and sent on their way. If you drive past a sign that says no access, if you park next to a sign that says no parking, if you park your motor home after passing a sign that says no motor homes you should receive a ticket, go home and tell everyone that you got it, write to the news stations about it and get the word out: Pacific City is open for those that come to enjoy the beach and abide by our communities rules, but if you don't choose to abide by them stay home or pay the fine. I understand that the funding for full time officers is not available and that is why, as a long time home owner in Pacific City I am all for fees for access 389 tdm mcP pct to fund enforcement programs. Sorry for ranting, but non enforcement is quite the pet peeve for us With the ever growing crowds of beachgoers it is getting much too dangerous to everyone to allow vehicles on the Yes 390 beaches. 391 No tdm pct Limit to certain areas away from Cape Kiwanda Keep the vehicles, except emergency vehicles, off the beaches! The beaches are for human beings only. Cars pollute YES with leaking oil, tear up the sand and surf areas, endanger human beings, and are noise sources we don't need for a 392 beach experience. KEEP THEM OFF PERIOD!

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I have also submitted an Email to "Beach Access" with my full thoughts. It is too lengthy to paste into this space. I am adamantly opposed to closing our beaches to vehicles, with the exception of Cape Kiwanda under certain times, limits, etc. As a law enforcement officer in another community I have watched since you closed the beaches and have only seen more problems and a far greater lack of community safety. You pushed all the people who once parked on the beach into the communities, along residential streets, the sides of highways, parking lots, etc. This resulted in No disturbances between community members and visitors, vehicular accidents (including serious injuries), an an inability for many who respect the rules and the environment to visit the beaches.

Perhaps an "area fee" of $5.00 or so per day, with seasonal/year round options at a great discount (perhaps free access at county entrances for those who pay county taxes, would help in reducing numbers on our beaches, or at the least allow some funds to be used for enforcement, education, and engineering. One need only look at the 4th of July 393 tdm mcP pct celebrations in the area this year to see closing the beaches to vehicles did nothing to reduce problems. Non-business vehicle use by private citizens should be prohibited at Tillamook County beach access points. Private Yes 394 vehicles on beaches are a hazard to others and to children. Other than the above exceptions, only emergency vehicles should be allowed to travel on the beaches. The prohibition Yes 395 ck pct should include “4 wheelers” as well.

I mostly care about McPhillips Drive access. I am a paraglider pilot and the sand dune is one of the best parts of being No a paraglider pilot in Oregon. Not having access to drive to the dune means that we have to hike our gear over the dune which is very difficult. It is also one of the best places for learning and not having access puts instructors in a difficult 396 tdm mcP pct position. It actually hurts their businesses. At least provide a permit for instructor use. We need to control beach access right now before further population. No access at all is the simple and easy to enforce Yes 397 standard. 398 Yes I don't believe vehicles should be allowed on beaches, except for official and emergency use. My family visits Pacific City and Cape Kiwanda to fly paragliders at least once every year. With four children of my own along with our friends and their families, we have a lot of gear including paragliders, harnesses, helmets and other safety equipment for a day at the beach. It's not feasible to carry in either from McPhillips Drive or the Kiwanda No parking lot to the north side of the Kiwanda dune. We love the community in Tillamook county and support many of the business there when we visit. We respect nature on and around the beach by driving slowly, only on the flat beach area and pay attention to the tides and travel together for safety. Please keep the beach open for our use. Thank you for 399 tdm mcP ck pct your consideration.

I am a kayak owner and fish out of it by using the beach access above to launch from. If these beaches are closed to vehicle traffic, I then have to park up above in the parking lot, drag my kayak across pavement and then down to the Yes beach, leave my kayak on the beach unattended to return vehicle to start packing my gear back in forth in hopes that know one steals any thing off my kayak or the kayak itself. And then do the same thing when I come back from fishing and need to load up my kayak. Closing theses beach access areas to vehicles will hurt the kayak fishing community that 400 tdm mcP ck pct enjoy recreational ocean fishing which are group of men and woman who respect our beaches. Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 39 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow It is a public access. All oregonians deserve this. Restricting a lot of beach access to the handicap and elderly. A large No money resource in the cape area by pelican. With kawanda drive no longer allowing parking AND the beach that will 401 tdm mcP ck pct take away better than half of the income for this area. We do not have adequate parking in PC for the many tourists who bring dollars to our town. If we restrict driving on the beach at Cape Kiwanda only which is often packed with hundreds of people and many many cars we will cut w No choices to peopleay back on the problems between vehicles and people at the cape. Leaving the other beaches open for 402 tdm mcP pct vehicles will be a logical compromise. beaches should be restricted to pedestrians in order to protect the fragile environment of the coastal ecology, and motor Yes vehicles are NOT a necessity in our coastal environment. Wildlife habitat is threatened by the use of motor vehicles 403 here.

Please, please, please, do not allow any vehicles on any beach. When I explore the Oregon beaches I do not want to have to dodge vehicles and they are dangerous to dogs and children who run with abandonment without paying Yes attention to their surroundings. I have been on beaches where vehicles are allowed and they take away all peaceful activities with the noise, pollution, and having to watch out for them. Plus they run over any shells or sea treasures that the sea washes up. If a vehicle has an oil leak then it has an oil leak on the sand which is then washed into the 404 water by the tide. There isn't any need for a vehicle on our beaches. Cape Kiwanda for dory boats only, and Yes possibly Tierra Del Mar for launching jet Ridiculous that most Oregon jurisdictions have stringent water quality requirements for new parking lots but continue 405 skis only. to allow vehicles on beaches without any control. Also a safety issue to pedestrians.

Yes 406 none The beach is to crowed when vehicles are allowed on the beach. Vehicles should not be allowed on any Oregon beach. With ever more people coming to the coast, having specified, enforceable beach parking in the historic beach parking No 407 tdm mcP ck pct areas, takes pressure off the side streets, overflowing parking lots and will diffuse tensions. 408 No tdm mcP pct That’s one of the reason Pc is great. I grew up Driving down to the mouth of the river. The only vehicles allowed on ANY Tillamook County beaches should be emergency vehicles or government vehicles Yes 409 on official business such as wildlife surveys. 410 No tdm mcP pct what does it hurt? I believe that only vehicles towing launching dory boats should be allowed to drive on the beach. I think the days of No allowing the general public to drive on the beach has passed. Too many cars, too great a risk to public safety and too 411 ck great a toll on the environment.

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One of the many reasons we moved to Oregon and PC was because we could enjoy driving on the beaches with all our picnic and beach lounging items for and with our family and friends. As educators we love the rich history that our beaches were established as part of the highway system and that generations have enjoyed this gift for years. We No believe that this policy should not be changed for our generation or that of future generations to come. Yes indeed times have changed and in the past 12 years we have seen and experienced the concerns such as parking and safety at Cape Kiwanda but have NEVER experienced the same concerns at McPhillips or Tierra Del Mar. A compromise of closing just Cape Kiwanda would alleviate the safety concerns while also preserving the rich history our Oregonian 412 tdm mcP pct forefathers put in place and we can continue to protect this rich history and privilege for generations to come.

Please realize people have to learn how to follow the rules and that's the only way anything you do is really going to make a difference. We have lived here in our little piece of heaven for many years, we do follow the rules, we love No being able to enjoy our beaches and the ability to drive on them, but when others come to visit they don't follow the rules and make it bad for others. People who vacation here get to enjoy our beaches and then they do the socialistic thing and want the laws changed to suit their interests. Not what we need or why they started coming to our beach but 413 tdm mcP pct how to make it fit their needs and lives. DON'T CLOSE OUR BEACH ACCESSES!!!!!

No Kiwanda beaches are too busy. The other two could have beach access. Is there a way to disallow on summer weekends 414 tdm mcP or all summer. Then allow during winter when the ere are few people? Say November to February?

Allowing vehicles on the beach damages coastal habitat and negatively effects native species such as shorebirds. There Yes is no need to park on the beach if a parking lot is available nearby. Cars on the beach are a sore sight to see and ruin 415 the true beach experience. Vehicle use at beach access points should absolutely be prohibited. 416 Yes pct Only bicycles, wheelchairs, kayak carts, etc. Only NON-motorized wheeled vehicles. Street legal, registered vehicles with licensed operator should be allowed on beaches outlined in #2. Safe operation is No 417 tdm mcP ck pct required and people on foot own the right away especially the Pacific City turn around site. 418 Yes Allow only Emergency vehicles and vehicles with water craft trailers. Vehicle access isn’t the issue in regards to COVID. Just keep vehicles away from those who want to enjoy the beach No 419 tdm mcP ck pct and not have to worry about putting out signs that “SLOW” or “KIDS PLAYING”!!

No 420 tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should be allowed to access the beach for the purpose of recreational activities such as boat/kayak launching. Driving on the beaches has been as common to me as driving down hwy 101. Some of my earliest memory’s are related to driving on the beach, from launching the dory boat with my grandpa to having family BBQ’s at the mouth. It’s a way No of life here in Pacific city. It’s a feature that makes our community unique and keeps us connected to our heritage. Mcphillips and the turn around should especially be reopened because those are the two spots that locals can go enjoy 421 tdm mcP ck pct the beach’s without dealing with all the tourists. The beaches have been much improved since they closed them. People are happier - children can run and play on the Yes 422 beach without fear of being hit by a car. It’s much less trashed too. 423 No tdm mcP ck pct This is public property and the public should be able to use this property.

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Vehicle access should also not be allowed to the beach at Sandlake recreation area to Cape Lookout. This zone in Yes particular is a safety hazard for those wanting to walk from south beach to sandlake. I have enjoyed driving a vehicle 424 on the beach in the past, but feel like there are just too many people now and it isn't' necessary. Tierra del Mar beach is very flat, wide, long and directly off of Sand lake rd. Tradition and public demand are two No important reasons to leave some beach access open; TDM and Turnaround vehicle access fill both needs of public 425 tdm pct demand and historic tradition. 426 Yes These areas should be like most of the rest of Oregon's beautiful beaches, free of motorized vehicles. I believe that vehicle access should be restored to these beaches. These are public beaches with historical vehicle access and they should stay that way. There are plenty of other beaches with no vehicle access so why close off the NO access to the the few that have access for people that want to enjoy them the way that they have been able to for 427 tdm mcP ck pct decades. 428 No tdm mcP Have been a resident here for the past 12 years and have seen the growing traffic on the beach, am not in favor due to No damage to a pristine area. At the same time we need to continue making good choices for other parking availability. I 429 ck pct would favor a parking fee and some enforcement if at all possible . 430 Yes 431 Yes tdm mcP Times have changed and there's just too many vehicles on the beaches where they're currently permitted. Safety of Yes 432 pedestrians must outweigh the use of vehicles which serve no useful purpose. 433 No tdm mcP ck pct We’ve been doing it for years.

There should be continued access for car use of the beach for fishing and water sports at cape Kiwanda and the area in Yes front of the Pelican brewery but no access South of the pelican and not at the turnaround. There should be no beach 434 ck driving access in Bob Straub area beach. Since the closure of automobile access the beach is much cleaner 435 No tdm mcP ck pct

Yes Dory launching 436 at cape Kiwanda Vehicles with handicapped permits should be allowed on beaches due to mobility issues 437 Yes Beaches are not needed anymore as highways and a mix of vehicles and pedestrians is dangerous. I think they should be allowed on the north side of the big dune. Not on the south side though. Too many pedestrians No 438 tdm mcP walking there.

I do not like cars on our beaches but without beach parking you are drastically limiting the number of people who can Yes access these popular areas. Also it will push people to park in unsafe places along roads and in neighborhoods which 439 ck pct will create more problems. Please do not cut off beach access to vehicles unless you can offset the parking somehow.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 42 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I've been a regular visitor to these beaches for more than 20 years and bought property in Pacific City more than a decade ago. My main concern is safety for kids. My kids are grown up now, but I definitely remember how much they loved running in total freedom on the beach. It's a joy all kids should have. But it makes me very nervous to see so Yes many vehicles in motion in the same place. South of the turn-around at the bridge, people also drive quite fast. Kids and cars on the beach just don't mix. Unless they are actively needed to launch a boat, I think it's time to move all 440 vehicles off the Tillamook County beaches.

Visitors and tourists leave a lot of trash, dog feces, etc. on the beach now with no vehicle access. Adding vehicles only Yes will increase pollution on the beach and potentially into the ocean. As an Oregonian, I treasure the livability of our 441 None coastal environment. I don’t want to see oil slicks and/or other pollution/garbage added to our beaches.

As a hang glider pilot and a pg pilot I think that we should be alowed to drive on all the beaches we where allowed to No do so before covid 19 penedemic..it allows for more open area for people to social distance if needed and I never in the past 20 years have ever seen or heard of an incident on someone getting hit or ran over..I belive we should be able to 442 tdm mcP ck pct continue to be able to use the beaches for driving to our spots. Thank you for allowing our voice on this.

Perhaps a beach pass could be an added source of revenue for the local city/county and would possibly limit overall No travel on the beach. Annual passes would allow local populations to access without a large cost while controlling 443 tdm mcP ck pct tourist vehicle populations on the beach as they would tend to purchase weekend/week long passes. Cape kawanda No 444 tdm north side Hangliding’s need beach access to fly the cape. It has been used for training since 1973

do not allow vehicles on the beach. drivers do not always obey sign rules restricting driving especially in Pacific City. Yes We have had to jump out of the way several times of speeding vehicles. vehicles bring more trash that is not removed 445 tdm when leaving. We have seen a dog hit by a vehicle on the beach and driver just drove away.

Yes I don't even walk on the beach in the summer in PC. I can't tell you how many times I've had to get out of the way of 446 tdm cars while walking the beach with my leashed dog. The tourists act like they have the right of way and walkers don't.

I say yes to vehicles on the beach but within reason. I don't like noisy sand dragsters and four wheel drives tearing up No the beach and endangering people. I have been to the Cape to fly Hang gliders, and with out access to the beach it is 447 tdm mcP ck pct way to far to carry all the equipment. This country belongs to the people, the "State" is only a caretaker for the people.

No 448 tdm mcP ck These are vital access points for those who use the beach for fishing and flying activities. I'm for keeping these open.

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The Cape Kiwanda parking lot provides a concrete access rap and a limited area for autos. Driving on to the beach at Cape Kiwanda is relatively safe.

Yes In contrast, the Pacific City Turnaround is a crowded area, with lots of pedestrian traffic traversing the same space as autos, with no paved access road over the dune, without site lines over the dunes, all causing the access site being unsafe for beach-goers. Driving on to the beach at the Pacific City Turnaround is not safe. In addition, the Pacific City 449 ck Turnaround provides access to a large section of the coast line, which is unsafe for beach-goers. Times have changed in the 33 years that I have owned a home in Pacific City. The visitor demand has gotten so high that there is no room for cars on the beach. It is being over run and destroyed by overuse. Vehicles And people trying to use the same space is unsafe and dangerous. The atmosphere at the beach is so much improved without cars and Yes drunk/disorderly people. Removing cars has made the beach more conducive to families. I would prefer to eliminate all vehicular beach access except for boats. If it is decided to allow some beach access only Tiera Del Mar and the turn 450 around should be considered. Don’t take away access to the beach by car. There are so many times during the year where it’s cold wet and windy on No the coast. Having a vehicle provides shelter from the elements to experience the beauty of the beaches year round 451 tdm mcP ck pct without one makes beach-going unpleasant.

As a homeowner on the beach just south of the Pelican Brew Pub I have enjoyed No cars on the beach in front of our home. It is much safer for children and pedestrians. I will add that the illegal parking on Shore Drive and the Yes pedestrian traffic through our side yard and illegal use of our trash can or leaving trash on the beach and the use of the beach right in front of our deck has been rather annoying, disruptive and unsafe in terms of COVID. Disallowing cars on the beach has produced these issues which will now need to be monitored by local authorities at an 452 increased expense. I own a home in PC and McPhillips beach is very isolated without vehicle access and so it makes it unassailable most of the time. I would like Tierra Del Mar and McPhillips beach to have vehicle access. At low tide they are No connected. Cape Kiwanda and now after Tillamook county bought the property at the turn around there will be public 453 tdm mcP parking so access will be easier without vehicles driving on the beach. 454 No tdm mcP Vehicle access improves mobility for seniors with physical limitations No beach parking at Cape Kiwanda. Other points of access with limited accessibility. If it can't be enforced and Yes 455 tdm mcP pct managed just shut it all down permanently. Even though the State of Oregon has ruled on the beaches in Oregon as being "public right-of-ways", the fact that most drivers will not obey safe driving habits and the policing jurisdictions do not have sufficient officers to patrol said Yes beaches, the public should be kept off the beaches. Only the "Pacific City Dorymen's Fleet" should be allowed on the 456 mcP beaches at Cape Kiwanda.

Yes beach access for no vehicles allowed on the beach except for fishing dorys. commercial only. if people want to access the beach ,they 457 the fishing dorys can walk in.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 44 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Keep the cars off the Beaches. A totally ridiculous precedent. Time to change the allowance with the exception of Dory Yes 458 fishing. with increasing popularity of the PC area, vehicle use is getting out of hand. an environmental issue (i.e. leaking oil Yes 459 goes directlyy into ocean, erosion) as well as an aesthetic one. We urge you to close Tillamook County beaches to motor vehicles, except for the noted above, dory vehicles and vehicles with the handicapped insignia at the Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot.

The Oregon beaches are public and open to everyone (and that will not change), however, they are not meant to be parking lots, stunt driving roadways, or race ways. This summer has been an example of all of the above.

With the closure of Pacific City beaches, Tierra Del Mar became unbelievable and unsafe. Over Labor Day weekend, hundreds of cars parked on the beach wherever they chose. The sign at the entrance stating no vehicles north of the sign was ignored. Vehicles parked north and south of the sign. Vehicles drove up and down the north end of the beach all the way to Sand Lake at all times of the day and night. Some of the vehicles carried families and their animals coming to enjoy the beach. While other vehicles drove on the sand and in the ocean to see how high of spray they could create from both, and/or make “donuts” in the sand, all going as fast as they possibly could. What an extremely unsafe environment! While some of the vehicles were carelessly “joyriding”, kids and dogs were running and playing. With the amount of fog present at times, it was truly amazing that no one was injured. As of yet!

YES Also, since the reopening of the Tierra Del Mar access, we have seen overnight campers (in tents, trailers, and one motor home) on the beach. Again, people are ignoring the signs which states no camping.

This period has been extremely frustrating. We realize people want to enjoy the beach, as we do, but many treat it as an amusement park. They want to use it, while not respecting it and taking care of it. Some enjoy racing towards the birds to get they to fly off (we just observed this this weekend). Do they not realize it takes a gull time to get some elevation or that injured birds wash ashore and can’t take flight? Since the middle of September, quite a large number of Common Murres and Cormorants have been washing ashore. The Murre is unable to take flight on land period, while Cape Kiwanda the Cormorants are weak and many unable to fly. It is saddening to see how many dead birds lined the Tierra Del Mar Lot: Dory boat beach. Besides the birds washing in, the crabs also get carried in on the high tide. They bury themselves in the wet sand vehicles and until the next high tide. It is frustrating to think that they are being driven over and killed. vehicles that display a current We walk on the beach twice a day, everyday. On each walk, we carry bags to pick up the trash. Regretfully, there has and valid never been a day we have not found something. In the winter, it is mainly trash that has washed ashore. In the summer, handicapped it is the trash from the beach visitors. Before the beach was opened to vehicular traffic, the trash was light, which was 460 insignia encouraging. However, as soon as the vehicles swarmed on the beach, the trash exploded. You’d think people would The beach area is one of the best training opportunities for paragliding and hangliding pilots. Perhaps a fee-based No 461 tdm mcP ck pct access must be considered in order to pay for enforcement.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 45 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Not only is it a long standing tradition on the Oregon coast, but law enforcement agencies find it easier to manage parking if the beaches are open. I recommend opening more public parking (whether that means existing lots not NO previously deemed for public use, or creating parking lots) before moving to permanently close beach access. I think we can all agree that parking in PC this summer was a nightmare, mainly because the beach access was closed and cars 462 tdm mcP ck couldn't park on the beach. And I suspect it will only get worse. Access to Oregon's beaches was permanent when the "Beach Bill" was initiated and the beaches were transferred from the state Dept of Roads to the Parks Department. Taking away our driving access to the beaches limits access to the No Dory Fleet at Cape Kiwanda and those with disabilities. Driving on our beaches is our right and privilege. It is not my fault that the Parks Department may have staff funding problems. I want driving access to our Tillamook County 463 tdm mcP ck pct beaches. Being a disabled adult having had the ability to access the beach beauty up close in person has helped me to live a No richer life. I have been on the beaches for 55 years and stopping that access would take away some of what makes my 464 tdm ck pct all life bearable.

465 No tdm mcP ck pct As our family ages it is necessary to use a vehicle to attend family outings at the beach. 466 No tdm ck pct Vehicular access to the beach at pacific city has always been allowed it’s part of the unique character of the area. Driving to the mouth of the Nestucca, etc. The beach is considered a public highway I remember hearing in the past. That said, the beach access at the cape is somewhat problematic in the summer months. The other three locations should be open year round, as there are no existing or possible areas to park. People are No going to come no matter what. This past summer people parked everywhere along side the road at TDM & Mcphillips accesses. Keeping those accesses open solves that dangerous issue. The cape should be closed to anything but dory vehicles with trailers from late spring to October 1. Greater efforts 467 tdm mcP pct should be made to increase parking off the beach and a shuttle services at the cape. Its the only way my Uncle can still go on the beach. He can no longer walk and the beach is his favorite place in the NO world. He has a beach house that he goes to frequently and going on the beach is one of the activities he holds most 468 tdm mcP ck pct dear. Leave beaches open to vehicles. Reticent to restrict access because it would include locals. It is the overwhelming use by nonresidents that creates problematic overuse. However, it is the very attraction for beach use that brings in revenue to our coast. Charge a reasonable fee to *non-locals*, which pays for employee(s) to check usage. Restrict it No completely in Tillamook county and day use will go north or south, depleting revenue for already strapped local businesses. Adopt a county beach day use $ permit program that excludes local residents. It’s called “ kamaʻāina” in 469 tdm mcP ck pct Hawaii, locals always get in free or with discount. I have been driving on our beaches since i was a small child. I like to dory fish in our family dory and I like to pull down on the beach to watch others launch or to see if i may want to launch. I also enjoy driving over the turn around a No few times a year and drive on down to the mouth of the river. I don't think that the over abundance of tourists during 470 tdm mcP ck pct the summer months should ban me from driving on the beach year round.

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I grew up in the Pacific City area. I have always enjoyed driving on the beach with my family as well as with my No friends. One of the unique things about our area is that we are able to drive on our beaches. I understand the summer months are getting over crowded, so at worst maybe just not in the summer time at the cape. There are no recorded 471 tdm mcP ck pct accidents at Cape Kiwanda. Parking on the road side is far more dangerous. Allowing vehicles on the beach allows people with disabilities (like my father) access to the beaches they love. We 472 No tdm mcP ck pct should share these beaches with everyone, and that means making this accessible.

I am both a surfer and a fisherman. I have been driving on our beaches for about 20 years. I enjoy driving to the cape and looking at the surf from my car in the early mornings, or in the evenings at sunset. It is unique and it is something No our area has that no alot of other places do. I see how the cape could be closed during the summer months, but there is no sense to close it all year long. Why punish the locals because of crowded beaches from tourism? I say open the 473 tdm mcP ck pct beaches back up, and relieve yourselves of major parking issues. Since I was a child, I have loved to drive on the beach in our car. Now I am old enough to drive down on the beach myself. I can't imagine that being taken away because there "could" be a tourist incident. It doesn't seem fair to me No that something could get taken away from me because of tourists. All it has done is cause parking issues and an 474 tdm mcP ck pct accident on Cape Kiwanda Dr. Please do not take it away. Ive been driving on the oregon beach for over 30 years since young kid. Kape kawanda has always been a personal No favorite. Please dont shut down our only beach driving access, the rest of the state is off limits, lets keep these few 475 tdm mcP ck pct places for vehicle access. The county can't afford to enforce the laws there so people shouldn't be allowed to drive there. It's also hard on the 476 Yes environment. The overwhelming use of Tillamook County beaches is by individuals and families on foot. I can see no compelling reason to allow motor vehicles capable of highway speeds intermixing with beach walkers, picnickers and children Yes playing in the sand and surf. Noise, exhaust and reckless driving are antithetical to the amazing peaceful beauty 477 Tillamook’s beaches provide. I believe allowing vehicles on the beach creates a hazard to all who wish to walk and enjoy the beach. I’ve watched 478 Yes countless cars get stuck in the sand and created environmental and other hazards.

It is a short walk from most accesses to the beach. The difficulty, of course, is parking. The best location for beach Yes parking, if it is allowed, is the Tierra Del Mar Beach, however, that beach also has the closest parking along the 479 highway. The beach experience is better when it is only you (and others), the sand, the sky and the ocean. As a Tillamook County homeowner and 20+ year beachgoer, I have always been okay with the cars on the beaches in Pacific City, as long as they stay within designated areas. Over the last few years, more and more people drive where they are clearly not allowed to, endangering people and damaging dunes at Cape Kiwanda and Bob Straub. So either there must be more enforcement of regulations or less cars on the beach. Yes I believe the Dory boats This year, with the pandemic keeping cars off the beach, I was amazed how much more pleasant the whole beach has should still have been. More people, less mayhem. However, this will require additional parking to be created somewhere as now the 480 vehicular access. mayhem has moved out onto Cape Kiwanda Drive. Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 47 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow A parking structure needs to be built at Cape Kiwanda. Closing the beach access just pushed the parking problem onto the neighborhood streets and along the highway and up into Tierra del Mar. The parking problem is due to allowing No too much development at Kiwanda without adding parking, and is the predictable result of terrible planning decisions 481 tdm mcP ck pct by Tillamook County.

Did we not learn anything from the traffic experience from ealier in Covid months. Inlanders will come (no matter what). Stay at home orders apparently did not apply to all, Inlanders still visited our areas along the coast. Everyone needs a place to play and they will come no matter what. I would like the continued beach access beacuase for some it acts as parking. I travel Sandlake Rd regulary going by the Tierra del Mar and McPhillips Beach accesses. There are visitors who will drive onto the beach (or down into McPhillips limited parking area).... hey, that gets them off the roadside areas. I cannot imagine if the beaches are not accessible what that will mean to the on roadside parking congestion. CANNOT!!! Altho we recently saw that people parked double stacked, they get out of the car and allow their children and pets to roam willynilly!! until ready to walk down onto the beach. Months ago there was someone who walked out from between 2 parked cars and a driver hit them....I don't know what that outcome was but it could not have been good. We want the visitors to come to Tillamook County and spend their money to help our coastal economy but we don't seem to want to make it easy.... Tierra del Mar dwellers have been trying for years to privatize that beach. I have attended meetings over the years and heard really one underlying comment more than once "I just want to have the beaches safe for my No grandkids/kids/family". Well guess what those that live in Tierra del Mar have their yards and private little dead end roads but the beach should be open for everyones enjoyment. I imagine you don't want visitors parking along your driveways, do you???? There are people who need the beach access to enjoy the ocean. Not everyone is able to walk down to enjoy the view. 1) I am opposed to closing the four (4) mentioned beach access areas. 2) I believe closures would create a congestion problem. 3) I believe in the future we'd be having meetings and asking for imput on how to relieve that congestion problem. 4) I believe more visitors parking along our narrow roadsides will create a safety issue over time like we have not seen before. . You cannot fix st----. Humans are naturally curious and adventurous and things will happen, but I don't believe the decision to close beach accesses would be fair to everyone, locals or inlanders!! Let' face it 2020 with it's Covid 19, local fires and lack of county income has been an interesting year, but I don't believe beach access closures will really help Tillamook County in the end. Nice to have Covid-they will still come. more off Fires- can still happen. 482 tdm mcP ck pct roadway parking Income- visitors spend money, just ask any small business. My family grew up on our local beaches. We have parked and fished. Parked and walked on the beach. 483 No tdm mcP ck pct Make more Brought visiting relatives for a close up experience. I can't imagine that not happening in the future. 484 Yes Vehicles belong on roads, not on our beautiful public beaches.

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486 No tdm mcP ck pct Stop trying to take more of our rights away and leave us alone please. Thank you I am particularly in favor of keeping cars off of Bob Straub beaches. In the past 3 to 5 years, the increase in cars, combined with many drivers driving off of the beach and into the dunes, has made these beaches unsafe for other users. Yes The past 6 months have shown how great these beaches can be, and the dunes that were damaged by cars have begun 487 to heal. Some people need handicap access to the beach. I believe that a handicap parking permit should allow people to park on the beach at Tierra del Mar only. Yes 488 tdm Definitely do not allow it at the Turnaround or at Cape Kiwanda parking lot, or on McPhillips Drive. Keep It closed in the summer and open them back up in the winter for the locals to use and enjoy, God knows we can No not use them in the summer months.... 489 tdm mcP pct Tierra del mar North is set up that way.

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Our beaches are unique in that families and friends are able to drive down to the beach and have a fire, bbq, spread out and have a good time. This also gives the disabled population a space where they are able to easily access the beach and take in the sights, sounds, and smells. There is already two zones where vehicles aren't allowed to drive. The prohibited zone between the turn around and south sign at cape kiwanja, and the north side of tierra del mar up to the nestucca estuary is closed for much of the year. These are points where people can enjoy the beach without vehicles if that is their preference.

In pacific city the beach access is also used as parking for our restaurants. There are only a handful of very small parking lots available in Pacific City, so people who have capable vehicles use the beach access to park and go to our shops, cafes and restaurants.

I, along with many others in Tillamook county, believe that if vehicular beach access is prohibited in P.C. we will lose a large amount of tourism and south Tillamook county will suffer. There is no room to put in new parking lots or a parking garage, and cars will line the streets. Just imagine how dangerous the corridor along McPhillips beach and No tierra del mar would be. Cars will once again be double parking behind each other, or in peoples yards just like they did during the summer of 2020 while beach access was taken away during covid.

This will likely happen the first few sunny weekends in spring or summer before the people that drive here from the valley, who bring money to our stores and restaurants, will decide that the extra 30 minutes to 1 hour drive north to Cannon Beach, Seaside, and Astoria. And why wouldnt they? Clatsop County beach towns have; more restaurants next to the beach, more hotels, more shopping, and they already have in place the required parking infrastructure needed to handle them.

I believe that prohibiting vehicle access to tillamook county beaches would be detrimental to our local economy with the loss of a lot of tourists. We would forfeit a unique experience of being able to drive down to the sand and set up base for an afternoon of fun.

A very small population of Oregonians will be happy if we lose the opportunity to drive our vehicles on to the beach, 490 tdm mcP ck pct and a very large amount of people will be left disappointed, mad, and traveling to different communities.

Among all of the other problems (public drunkenness, garbage, cars getting stuck, human feces, etc.), I'm especially concerned for the safety of pedestrians at the Tierra Del Mar beach, which is the one of which I am most familiar. It's Yes difficult to hear vehicles approaching from behind. If you're playing fetch with your dog you may very well throw the stick in the pathway of an SUV. Drivers are often trying to maintain speed and their own preferred course to avoid getting stuck. Distracted children are often hidden in the deep sand pits they like to dig--sometimes burying each other 491 up to their necks. Alcohol, plus Cars, plus Speed, plus Little Kids, is a very dangerous combination. We have been driving and parking on the beaches in Tillamook County for more than 30 years. We do not think that No 492 tdm mcP ck pct should change.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 50 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 493 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicle counts and types allowed on beach should be considered. When too many vehicles are on beach at Kiwanda No the dory boat captains cannot launch and land safely, nor is it safe for others who don’t understand the space these 494 tdm captains need. Vehicles should only be allowed on beach area’s where there is enforced supervision. Vehicles should not be allowed No 495 ck pct on beaches where there are homes. 496 Yes Never Ocean beaches, like forests, are places where we go to get away from noise and human presence - especially motorized Yes 497 human presence, so that we can connect with the real power of natural places. 498 Yes Accidents waiting to happen: people getting hit by cars, cars ending up in the ocean, or stuck in the sand. My husband and I own a second (non rented) home in Pacific City. We bought our home five years ago. Allowing cars on the beach makes our town unique and brings in more tourists which brings in more revenue. Even in the winter No months, tourists come to us because they can make a day of it since they can get so close for wave watching. Anyone with disabilities or difficulties has access to our mighty ocean because they can be brought down onto the sand. I 499 tdm mcP ck pct strongly support allowing cars back onto the beaches. Unnecessary. Vehicle tracks disturb the immediate serenity of nature's beauty. Potentially dangerous to those on foot Yes 500 at play, especially children. Should be restricted to emergency vehicles only. Vehicles should be allowed at Tillamook County Beach Access Points with the purchase of an annual pass. This should No include all user groups, surfers/dorymen/kayakers/visitors etc. The money raised by this would go to maintain and 501 tdm mcP ck pct monitor the activity at the beaches. We need to allow for limited parking for personal watercraft aka water jet ski. They need access to launch their craft Yes and Pacific City has encouraged them to locate to Tierra del Mar. They should not be pushed back to the Nestucca 502 River or Hungry Harbor Drive. Being outdoors is the safest place to be and giving people access to the beach with their families with a safe place to No 503 tdm mcP ck pct park and enjoy the day is a plus.

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I am writing to request reopening of driving access on beaches in south Tillamook County. I’m asking you as leaders of the County to take action to open beach driving access to commindate the increased visitors that are here now and are struggling to get to the beaches. The current management strategies have had a significant negative impacts on county residents' ability to access beaches. I do not understand how it can be fine to park in a restaurant parking lot but somehow not okay to park on the beach to enjoy the area.

Please allow all past access to beaches in Pacific City, McPhillips and South Spit. The current situation is not acceptable. I realize that with the Covid situation, short-term temporary closures were needed. However, the County has continued to promote tourism and has also allowed recreational fishermen to drive and park on the beaches. This No same access has been denied to every other citizen that uses these beaches. Closing access to these beach should only be considered after other options have been tried and then after greater public input. The decision to allow only boat related driving and parking access seems completely arbitrary from a public health perspective and discriminatory against any non fishing beach user, not to mention individuals who have mobility or other limitations. The ability to drive and park on the beach is unique to this area of Tillamook County. OAR 736-024-0015 section (f), (h), and (j) state that “Motor vehicle travel and parking is allowed at any time from the line described...” which include McPhillips beach, the main beach at Pacific City and the beaches south of Pacific Ave. As a County resident, I have based many of my life choices on the specific type of beach access that is written in these Oregon rules. Local officials have to represents all residents and Oregonians not just special interests or influential people. Please open driving and parking 504 tdm mcP ck pct access in south Tillamook County to everyone immediately. This is the only action that is fair to all Oregonian. There is no reason presented for closing the beaches to vehicles and I see no reason for doing so. Limiting vehicles limits people with disabilities to beach access and only allows the more affluent people (i.e. people who can afford No property on the beach) access to certain beaches. Gov McCall made the beaches open as a highway for a reason. And 505 that reason is to keep the beaches open to all Oregonians not just the rich ones. We have been going to pacific city and have noticed the Increase of traffic on the beaches. With kids and dogs running Yes around and increased crowds of people I have definitely seen a few close calls. Pacific city should no longer allow cars 506 on the beach. Please do this before a serious accident occurs We have been going to pacific city and have noticed the Increase of traffic on the beaches. With kids and dogs running Yes around and increased crowds of people I have definitely seen a few close calls. Pacific city should no longer allow cars 506 on the beach. Please do this before a serious accident occurs

Access to the backside of Kiwanda is important for those who fly hang gliders and we love to see them there. The No instructors who use The backside of the dune to teach paragliding also require that access and I support what they do. I 507 tdm mcP pct find it to be a favorite place on the coast to drive back there and hope we do not lose the access. 508 No tdm mcP ck pct I’m for reopening up ALL beaches just like before this Covid Emergency situation. 509 No tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 52 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I have used these Beach accesses to visit the mouth of the Nestucca and the Northside of cape kiwanda for over 60 No years. Closing these accesses deny me from visiting these places. I am old and retired with bad knees and can't walk 510 tdm mcP pct great distances. I can access these areas with a vehicle. Please don't close them

I am a Paragliding pilot, it is very difficult to access Cape kawanda with our gear If we can’t drive on the beach. The No vast majority of people that drive on the beach are very respectful and many of us use our trucks to clean up garbage 511 tdm mcP ck pct and debris that are washed up on the beach, which is a benefit to the environment. And visitors to the beach. 512 No tdm mcP pct I agree with closing the Cape Kiawanda closure of driving in the beach but keep Dory access. This beach gets too many cars and the beach stretch is not large The other 3 locations should not close to cars as the beach stretch to drive is much larger and I have never seen them crowded with cars as I have seen at Cape Kiawanda. Oregonians have always (in my lifetime) been able to drive on certain beaches and that should not change just because a few commissioners are making covid excuses and think it’s just not safe and can’t get emergency vehicles on the beach. To this I say we live with all of our viruses and diseases now. It is up to each individual to stay safe. Covid is not a good No excuse, nor is the excuse of the emergency services not being able to get on the beach. They never have been able to get down there and if you go in the beach, you go at your own risk like everything else in life! These are not good enough reasons to me to close our beaches to car traffic! And if the Tillamook County Commissioners still want to close the beaches this should be a voter issue for all Oregonians! This is not just a Tillamook County voter issue. This will effect all Oregonians!

This will really effect the disabled people that must drive in the beach to enjoy it. And everyone has a that right to 513 tdm mcP pct enjoy our natural resources. Please don’t close our beaches!

Yes Beach access should be reserved for a quality recreation experience. Beach access should provide a safe experience in 514 a visually attractive environment. Row upon row of cars detract from the natural environment and are a safety hazard. Although we generally don't drive on the beach, It is nice for people who cant maneuver to the beach edge. It is a 515 No tdm mcP ck pct unique offering in Pacific City. So sad you have restricted my access to mcphillips. No Lived in pc for 26 years, pay my taxes and now restricted due to tourist. 516 tdm mcP pct Doesn't seem fair and I now have limited access.

Yes The Beach is supposed to be a beach and not a parking lot or a raceway. There is potential for accidents when the 517 None beaches are littered with cars, trucks, campers, jeeps, etc. It spoils the beauty, serenity and pleasantness.

No Residents have used vehicles on all these beaches for many generations, and certain areas are simply not accessible to 518 tdm mcP ck pct older residents without vehicle access. Closure will pose significant equity issues inside the county. I feel that preventing vehicles on the beach (except for boat launching) will make the beaches very much safer for 519 Yes pedestrians. In addition this will be much better for the environment.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 53 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I think we have too many tourists May to October to have vehicles on the beach. I would be in favor of vehicles on 3 of Yes the beach access points in winter on weekdays for local residents to find firewood. Beach access at the cape should be 520 limited to dory or boats launching into the ocean at all times. 521 Yes tdm mcP ck pct Responsible people deserve access. There is no reason to inhibit access to historically driven sections. I understand that the section by Pelican Pub has No become too busy and may need to limit access on weekends or peak weeks. But a blanket kill to driving in the area 522 tdm mcP pct would be ridiculous and unnecessary. The entrance point for dory boats should NOT allow cars! It gets very crowded- can barely get around all the cars 523 Yes mcP there. McPhillips NEEDS access for hang gliders. This is a Long Beach and can handle cars.

As your description of the issue says “Times have changed...” and, as times change so must the rules we live by. Our visitors are overwhelming our public safety resources and literally trashing the beaches. I think it is important to acknowledge that this has little to do with the current pandemic. The problems leading us to consider this change have Yes been building for years.

I think the only logical and responsible response is to close beach access to all but public safety vehicles and those launching dory boats at Cape Kiwanda. There will be pushback by some loud voices but over time people will accept 524 the change and we will have a safer and more enjoyable experience at the beach for everyone.

We have been renting places in PC since my wife of 23yrs have been together. Now we share this same passion with our kids. It’s our go to place, load up the chairs, boards and picnic on the beach. The thought of closing it down is No overwhelming sad to our family. We tried to pack all our stuff out on the beach and it was a disaster and at that point why not go anywhere else. We have always bought 4x4’s with PC in mind. If we need to make a compromise like 4x4 525 tdm mcP ck pct only or something like that I understand but to just close is a absolute travesty. It’s nice for people with disabilities and the elderly to have access to the beach. It’s a public right to have access to 526 No tdm mcP ck pct public land. Having beach access allows those with physical disabilities and elder citizens to use and enjoy the beach. Limiting 527 No tdm mcP ck pct access would take this away. 528 Yes tdm mcP ck pct ALL How does driving in a vehicle put others at risk for COVID or increase transmission? 529 No tdm mcP ck pct All for it as long as it can be done safely 530 No tdm mcP ck pct Covid has nothing to do with vehicles access to the beach. 531 No tdm mcP ck pct Driving on the beach won’t spread covid 532 No tdm mcP ck pct Access to the beach with Vehicles is one of the things that makes our home here in Pacific City Special. It is a part of 533 No tdm mcP ck pct our Families and Friends life. 534 No tdm mcP ck pct 535 No tdm mcP ck pct all beach roads we should be allowed to drive on all beach's

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 54 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Allowing vehicles on the beach clears the already full parking lots and side roads for non capable vehicles. It also allows family’s to have more distance from other beach goers. It’s common sense, if everyone has to pack their coolers No and gear from the asphalt, distance between groups will be much closer. I’m curious why NOT allowing vehicles 536 tdm mcP ck pct access on the beach is even an option?? 537 No tdm mcP ck pct Closing beaches to vehicles only hurts tourism and businesses. Why would anyone want that to happen? Having these types of activities available now is more important now than ever before especially with all the closures the Covid 19 No virus is causing. We all know mental health issues are sky rocketing because of all the quarantining- people need an 538 tdm mcP ck pct No places closed outlet - let’s not eliminate these types of outlets. 539 No tdm mcP ck pct The only way we can enjoy the beach I have family with COPD and others with arthritis that would otherwise not be able to enjoy access to some of these 540 No tdm mcP ck pct areas as easily. Wh 541 No tdm mcP ck pct 542 Yes tdm mcP ck pct 543 No tdm mcP ck pct No reason to change it. return to the previous access points, which includes vehicle restrictions to the TDM beach, but allows vehicles to be on 544 No mcP ck pct the beach to the south of TDM. 545 No tdm mcP ck pct allow them they are hurting nothing 546 Yes tdm mcP ck pct Allows for great family fun with incredible surroundings 547 No tdm mcP ck pct All

I’m a lifelong Oregonian & live on the coast. My early years were strongly influenced by Tom McCall’s Intelligent decisions to value & save our precious coastline. Beaches are not parking lots! They’re meant to relax, recreate & Yes enjoy. Generations of families have made memories playing & escaping the stress of city life there. Cars do not belong there at all. I’m surprised we haven’t had serious pedestrian/car accidents yet. And, times have changed. The influx of 548 NONE tourists driving onto the beach seems to have quadrupled. NO CARS ON OUR BEACHES!!!!!

Yes Vehicles driving on the beach are a significant danger to people on the beach. Vehicle caused noise on the beach is a 549 nuisance that can be heard well beyond the beach area. Vehicle tire tracks in the sand are an unattractive nuisance. 550 No tdm mcP ck pct Oregon beaches are for everyone. People should be able to use beach access points. I fly hang gliders and enjoy playing on the dunes. It would be impossible if vehicle access was not allowed. It is such 551 No tdm mcP ck privilege to do so please don’t take that away, I believe vehicles on the beach ruin the total beach experience. For many years the beach at Cape Kiwanda has been overwhelmed with tourists vehicles to the point that there is very little open beach during the summer months. It has been turned into a parking lot, introducing lots of garbage, careless and intoxicated driving. With the current closure Yes the beach is natural and unspoiled again. Both locals and tourists appreciate this very much. Please keep it closed to vehicles except for boat launching. However, we absolutely need more off beach parking to offset some of the parking 552 tdm mcP loss from the beach closure.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 55 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 553 No tdm mcP pct I think that vehicles should be allowed on the beach seasonally in certain areas. 554 No tdm mcP ck pct The beach has always been a hwy stop regulating our lands 555 Yes None 556 Yes I feel it’s much better without cars on the beach. Much more space and easier to get around. 557 No tdm mcP ck pct Cape kiwanda parking lot for No boat launching There is enough beach for everyone to use. Restrict access for pedestrians only but allow vehicles on other beaches so 558 only people that aren't able to walk or walk that far can enjoy the ocean as well

I think all access should be granted to all beach access points. Regulations should be in place for summer activity north NO of the ramp at the pelican brew pub parking lot in Pacific City due to boats and tow rigs coming on and off the beach. 559 tdm mcP ck pct Pedestrian vehicles should not be allowed during summer months north of the ramp. Makes the beach not usable for the locals too crowded dangerous for little children we had someone hit in the parking Yes lot actually this last summer by a vehicle. Most beaches don’t allow cars. Why can’t we just close the parking lot off 560 after it’s at capacity safety should be first. I have been a dory fisherman and Pacific City land owner for 30+ years. Governor Tom McCall designated Oregon No The beach at beaches as public highways and we have enjoyed parking on the beach to fish and enjoy the awesome views for many 561 Cape Kiwanda years. Please continue to allow us access to the beaches and fishing traditions.

Yes I believe that, with exception to dory boats, the beaches should be closed to vehicles. This summer has shown that it is 562 a very viable option and the beach is ultimately a safer place when vehicles are not allowed on them 563 Yes

Vehicles should be allowed on all designated beaches by law except Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot (Hungry Harbor Drive). Having no public vehicle beach access this summer at Cape Kiwanda/Hungry Harbor Drive has improved No conditions for all user groups. Less congestion, improved safety, no demand for Park Rangers to manage, no vehicles getting stuck on ramp, and overall improvement conditions existed this summer without public vehicle access. Let's 564 tdm mcP pct keep it this way forever... no public vehicle access at Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot (Hungry Harbor Drive). Boat vehicles should be allowed @ Hungry Harbor Dr ONLY! Vehicles should be allowed @ McPhillips & the 565 Yes mcP pct Turnaround.

Keeping Tierra Del Mar & McPhillips open will allow tourists access to beach and opportunity to park off-road. No Hungry Harbor should be dory fleet only. The Turnaround is virtually a blinded dune to be overcome at speed and. 566 tdm mcP therefore, much too dangerous for pedestrians or drivers unfamiliar with using it. 567 Yes tdm ck Only Dory Boat vehicles should be allowed. I have submitted a written response to your email address. 568 Yes It is time to join the rest of the Oregon coast and prohibit driving on our beautiful beaches.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 56 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

I believe there's major congestion at Cape Kiwanda parking lot (Hungry Harbor Drive). It's a very small section of beach to have the amount of non-boat launching vehicles that use the beach access. Boat launching is affected when Yes Boat you have vehicles that are not capable of driving on the beach (RV's and 2 Wheel, Ext.) get stuck and ruff up the Ramp! Launching/Cape Leaving Tierra del Mar and McPhillips Drive open should help with the vehicle and people congestion for those who 569 tdm mcP Kiwanda wish to drive on the Beach. 570 No tdm mcP 571 Yes tdm Beach access must be prohibited to try and bring back integrity of our coastline 572 Yes Only dory vehicles should be allowed on the beach I have owned a home in Pacific City/Woods area for almost 20 years and have watched the Cape Kiwanda beach become a chaotic parking lot. So many vehicles degrades the natural beauty of this beautiful beach. We have enjoyed driving on the beach as well as other locals, but it is no longer a sustainable option. YES This summer after prohibiting access, I watched people enjoying the more open beach area, flying kites, and having 573 tdm mcP pct more space to enjoy the sand and ocean.

NO Beach access was allowed prior to the covid19 shutdown.. I ask that access be restored to its previous places. If you do 574 tdm mcP ck pct not allow beach access, you are going to have the same parking mess that you had last Spring and Summer. If these beach’s were closed how would people with mobility issues cross soft sand? People are still going to use these beaches in the same number. If not parking vehicles on the beach where do you suggest the park, the roadway No shoulders don’t have enough room. How about people with small children who would like to get away from the crowds? Sounds to me that you are trying to kill tourism!! I see beaches the vehicles on them cleaner then walk on 575 tdm mcP ck pct beaches because people back their trash out. Allowing beach access in the less populated area of Tierra del Mar allows those with disabilities the ability to access 576 No tdm mcP the beach while keeping the chances of any accidents to a minimum. Kiwanis over the last 50 years has been an almost perfect training ground for foot launched flight of all kinds, most recently hang gliding and paragliding. It can be thought of as Oregon’s Kitty Hawk. The road access to the north side No of the cape has been an integral part of this activity for the whole time and it would really impact the practice of foot 577 mcP launched training if it became unavailable.

I for one have made some amazing memories with friends and family driving on the beaches to get away from other people, quite often way further than I could walk and pack my stuff. Tierra Del Mar has a huge safety problem parking No along the road, not enough spaces, WAY TOO close to the road for kids and dogs to be hit by passing cars. I also find the trash is way less with people that drive down to the beach, everything gets packed into their vehicles and driven out vs the long haul to carry things out and drop things without noticing. It’s also a romantic get away to drive down on any beach sit in the back of the car and watch the sunset. I personally 578 tdm mcP ck pct think it would be a travesty to get rid of the few places you could still drive on ANY Oregon beach. 579 Yes allowing vehicles on the beach interferes with the public's access to the beach.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 57 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 580 No tdm mcP Seasonal use allowed at turnaround October through February only. Charge 100-200 dollar parking passes. Those that go to the beach a ton will gladly buy them. The people that don’t go No to the beach often will not buy them. So it is unlikely that the beach will be as intense with traffic as years prior. 581 tdm mcP ck pct Anyone who doesn’t have a pass gets heavy fines

Vehicles should continue to be allowed to access and utilize the beach in several places in Tillamook County. Specifically vehicles should be allowed to access and utilize the beach from the Tierra Del Mar access point off Sand Lake Road and at the access point off of McPhillips Drive. However, I do not think that the continuation of vehicle access to the beach from the Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot is a good idea at this point in time. The beach in front of that parking lot currently gets much too crowded with vehicles parking in a very limited area on a very crowded beach. The No same is not true for the access points and beaches further north where there is much more space, and much less of a crowd. Vehicle access to the beaches north of Cape Kiwanda should be continued. These two vehicular beach access points are critically important for transporting pilots and their foot launched flying equipment, hang gliders and para gliders, to the north side of Cape Kiwanda. The sand dune there has been a training site for those learning to fly foot launched gliders since the 1970s and the site continues to be one of the best sites for people to learn to fly. There is no other place accessible on the Oregon coast that is as good. Closing beach access to vehicles to travel on the beach to the north side of Cape Kiwanda would truly be a tragedy for the free flight community. It would also hurt small 582 tdm mcP businesses in Tillamook County that benefit from the pilots and their families that use this world class flying site bring . Those of us who are older and cannot get around as well as we use to will be punished unfairly. I enjoy driving down the beach to a spot where my dog can enjoy some run time away from the main access points and the increase in people No and other dogs. But most likely once again the law abiding tax paying easy target citizen will get punished while our 583 tdm mcP ck pct governor endorses criminal behavior.

No Beach access allows people to enjoy the recreational opportunities of oregon. If you limit access, you limit 584 tdm mcP participation, and without participation, your county will lose the financial benefits of those using the resources.

No Beach access allows people to enjoy the recreational opportunities of oregon. If you limit access, you limit 585 tdm mcP participation, and without participation, your county will lose the financial benefits of those using the resources. Been going to our family cabin off Sunset since I was born. My kids should not have to watch out for adults who drive 586 Yes tdm mcP recklessly while on the beach playing in the sand and surf. Driving on the beach May best o let be allowed from Oct 31 thru April 30 of each year. The summertime crowds have 587 Yes tdm pct been shown to be unmanageable.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 58 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow permitting vehicles on the beach is dangerous. Many of the folks driving on the beach seem to think they are expert at vehicles doing so. Tow truck drivers make a lot of money hauling these experts out of the sand. People have been hit on the involved in beach (I know of no fatalities) and I have seen many near misses. Tourists in cars and trucks drive and some walk in launching dories very dangerous ways with the seeming idea that sand is a stable medium and stopping in it is a cinch. We launch a should be able to dory from Pacific City. Evidently the county and the state have little concern for public safety in this long standing Yes access and park tradition. Surfers and tourists using the boat launching area are ignoring their own safety as if they were impervious to on the injury. They walk in front of vehicles hauling a heavy dory as if we can just stop on a dime. They ride the surf right up designated beach to our boat as if we can stop at all. They walk around on the beach as if in a daze. When we try to land on the beach, area at Cape sounding our horn, they converge on the spot where we are headed then stand and stare. The hazards of dealing with Kiwanda during the tourists sometimes rival the dangers of the ocean. ocean fishing 588 seasons. One can never underestimate the ignorant behavior of the public when gathered in groups. TDM and McPhillips should remain open year round. Close Cape beach and Turnaround to cars excepting dory South of Bob launch. Consider partnering with OPRD to develop vehicle access south of Bob Straub parking lot. Press forward to No Straub parking develop more parking at Jensen property. Turning Webb campground into parking will be very $$$$ to get people 589 tdm mcP lot. over or under CK Drive. 590 No tdm mcP ck pct Neskowin Allow all beach entry for vehicles It should be allowed. So many activities would be limited if we couldn’t drive to the mouth of the river or limited 591 No tdm mcP ck pct parking on the roads or parking areas.

No My wife’s favorite place to go is the mouth of the Nestucca. I have a Jeep dedicated for this use only. Took my Mom 592 tdm mcP ck pct there on her 80th birthday. Oregon beaches have always been open. So no I don’t support this. Cindy Lane

Oregon's unique beach access, open to the public should not be infringed upon. Visitors both local visitors and tourists NO would be better informed about the laws, rules, and etiquette if there were signs posted asking for the public's 593 tdm mcP ck pct cooperation. Peer pressure alone would go a long way to enhancing everyone's enjoyment of our beautiful beaches.

I have been very concerned about vehicles on the beach, sharing the same space with families and small children for many years. Beach use has greatly increased and will not likely lessen in future years. Vehicles and people need to be Yes separated. The vehicle prohibition this summer seemed to encourage people to spread out along the whole beach rather than congregating around Cape Kiwanda and created a much more pleasant beach experience for all. I encourage 594 None Tillamook county to create parking areas for visitors away and off of the beaches.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 59 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

Allowing vehicles on the beach has always been a great way to enjoy the Oregon coast. People who are less mobile and have younger children have a hard time finding parking and then hiking the long trek into the beach. If few beach access points that have allowed people have been completely inundated as of late because people can no longer drive on the beach. Being able to drive onto the beach reduces the amount of stress at the access points and allows people to disperse over greater area. In the days where the government is promoting social distancing this can we be a win-win as people will have greater distance between them and it'll be easier to achieve. When you can only walk onto the beach many people will gather in a very tight area and this will not be effective social distancing. Being able to drive your vehicle on the beach while you to gain access further down the beach to other areas that would not be accessible by walking. It also let everybody enjoy the space more as there is a lot of extra space that one cannot safely walk to. If it's expected that people should walk 5 or 6 miles while on the beach to gain access to its Many Wonders then what will happen in the event of a tsunami when no vehicles are there to evacuate the people that are on these beaches. The right to drive on the beach has been part of the people's Gifts of living in Oregon and visitors to Oregon for a century. This No should never be taken away and it should be allowed to drive our vehicles where they once were allowed. The strain on the focal points have been tremendous during this covid-19 . I witnessed it firsthand as I live in Pacific City. Amount of people coming to Pacific City in the Tillamook area is increasing every year exponentially. This you will not be able to stop. There is not adequate parking at the access points on the beach. And there is no additional lands that can be easily purchased to remedy the situation. This means that driving on the beach needs to be allowed to continue to relieve the Overflow of people coming to this area. If need be then create the system and charge for daily passes or annual passes much as the same they do for a TV off-road permit. Mini the people coming here live in metropolitan areas where they pay as much as 20 to $30 a day to park in her very much willing to pay and bring money to the local economy. This will also fun things like additional sanitary area bathrooms in patrols. This is important factor that should not be overlooked simply by a few people who want to never see vehicles on the beach. This is the right of the people all the voices that are not being heard now who would like to have a voice for simply not getting a chance to take the survey many of them would say they would love to be able to drive on in Oregon beach. In short if you restrict the ability to drive on the beach you have removed a gem of a gift from the Oregon people and people visiting this 595 tdm mcP ck pct beautiful resource. The impact is almost nothing to the small percentage of area that makes up the coast. Important for hangliders to access north side of kiwanda .This is the 596 No mcP Only safe place to learn on the west coast.

Vehicles are fine on the north end. They cause congestion where the dories launch and are not safe coming over the hill at the turn around where people are walking and congregating. At the cape, not having vehicles on the beach has been fabulous! People are able to enjoy the beach without the Yes garbage, congestion and overall deterioration of the ramp. The amazing view of the ocean can be seen without the obstruction of numerous large and small vehicles in the way. On another note, we haven’t had to deal with small cars getting stuck in the sand when they shouldn’t be there in the first place and blocking access on and off the beach. It has 597 tdm mcP been a much safer environment for the public and dorymen. 598 No tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 60 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 599 Yes pct Just for Dory usage and the turn around There should be continued use of the Cape Kiwanda parking lot for Dory fisherman to launch their boats and park on 600 No ck the beach. 601 Yes Only vessel launching vehicles should be permitted on the beach at Cape Kiwanda. Vehicles on the beach are a serious safety issue at all access points; Tierra Del Mar and McPhillips need to be given Yes the same concern as Cape Kiwanda. Allowing vehicle access at the Turnaround is total madness. Please create new off- 602 street parking in all areas and keep the beach safe for everyone again. 603 Yes tdm pct Only dory use at Cape Kiwanda, including support vehicles for their safety. 604 Yes Desire walking, biking and birding without cars driving and parking on the beach. Vehicles should be allowed on the beach. Often this is the ONLY way the elderly and disabled can put their feet in the 605 No tdm mcP ck pct sand. As an elderly paraglider with a bad knee. I can't get my gear from the Pelican to the dune nor carry water fro my dog. I also don't have a place to put trash and dog poop I clean off the beach, nor do I have my first aid gear. I used to give a No Free Kiting Clinic to help reduce accidents from paragliding but I can't carry all the gear from the Pelican. Lastly as a 606 tdm mcP safety issue, I can no longer haul injured folks off the beach.

Kiwanda has been a popular and accessible beach area which is the primary training grounds for all oregon based No paragliding students. Restricting drive up access not only diminishes our access as we need to haul in gear which is difficult to carry, it also would negatively impact emergency response in the case of an accident. We dont have many 607 tdm mcP ck areas which are drive up accessible, please retain vehicle access to this one area. The beaches are public property and should remain that way and accessible to the public not controlled by the wealthy No few that own houses along the beach. Historically we have been able to drive our vehicles on our beach and it should 608 tdm mcP ck pct remain that way and not turn into a California or East coast. Cape Kiwanda is the best training site for hang gliders and paragliders on the West Coast. It is crucial for the safety of Yes learning how to fly. Hauling a 90 pound hang glider for 45 minute up and over a tall sand dune is an unreasonable 609 mcP expectation. Safety is created by allowing safe training practices. Vehicles are necessary for fair public land use. They are paramount to the paragliding community and are helpful for No teaching as well as for safety reasons. We are happy to transport an injured pilot in the case of an incident. Please allow 610 tdm mcP ck pct vehicles They haven't seemed to be a problem on the north side of the cape in the 7 years that I have been enjoying this area. I 611 Yes tdm mcP ck pct think it spreads the impact of people out. It also allows people tomorr easily carry out there trash. Our family has enjoyed the beautiful recreational beaches for 3 generations. It would be such an unnecessary “taking” 612 No tdm mcP ck pct of Healthy family Fun.

I am a veteran with a slight disability of the right foot who para glides on the north side of Kiwanda. It is one of the only sites I can access and fly safely. It is very difficult for me to access the north side of Kiwanda on foot especially No with gear to carry. It is also one of the only places you can drive a disabled or elderly person directly onto the beach without difficult access. I have been visiting pacific city for the last 8yrs to do this and ask for consideration for para 613 tdm mcP glider pilots as well as people with disability access issues. Thank you for your time

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 61 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 614 No tdm mcP 615 No tdm mcP ck pct It is a Public space that needs to be opened to everyone. My parents are disabled and cant enjoy the beach right now 616 No tdm mcP ck pct with it closed. Dory fishing also needs to be allowed with helper vehicles to assist .

Us Handicapped people struggle getting down on the beach especially through the soft sand. I would love to be able to go down on the beach and be with my family and sit while they go out fishing and I can watch my grandkids play in the No sand if they are there. Please allow us to be able to be on the beach. I can't drive and I struggle walking, I hope someday there is a cure for lupus and arthritis just to name a few but until then I need help. I use the ramp and the 617 tdm mcP ck pct Handicapped parking spots but its not the same as being on the beach itself.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 62 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow

First and foremost this is a public highway and has been my entire life. The beach is ours to enjoy and should not be taken away under a false pretense. As a citizen of Pacific City and my family before me it is our right to have access to our beloved beach by vehicle. As I age it is even more important that I and my husband are able to drive onto the beach as to enjoy it personally because it is difficult with disabilities to walk through the sand to reach the water. We were unable to even enjoy the beach when it was restricted this spring while most people could walk to enjoy it, we could not. Our young granddaughters came to visit and we couldn’t take them to enjoy a day at the water because we were unable to traverse the uneven sand and up and down terrain. We moved here to enjoy the beach. We pay a fairly high property tax to do so and taking that away seems like you are stealing it from us while we pay to subsidize the tourist that have free reign of our town. Secondly you want to close the beach from tourist parking on it while WE the citizens, WE the tax payers of Pacific City, and Tierra Del Mar can’t even enjoy the beach due to the overwhelming volume of tourist. They park on all streets, roads, driveways and anywhere they find a spot, anywhere their car will fit. In order for all of us to co exist the No entire beach should be open to vehicles. This would ensure we can absorb the influx and keep our private property to ourselves, keep the roadways clear and safe while there is plenty of room for all. Thirdly there are areas of the beaches that have restricted access so the home owners on the beach namely between south of the Cape and the Turnaround and north of Tierra Del Mar are not bothered by vehicles in front of their homes. This is very unfair to the rest of us that own property here. While we fight cars parking everywhere, people, dogs, bicycles and nonstop noise these people are allowed to not be bothered by the tourists on the beach. Restricted These restrictions were put in place along time ago before the town grew and the tourist came in droves. These beaches: 1. restrictions are discriminatory allowing some residents more privilege than the vast majority that by far exceed their tax Between status that afforded this privilege in the first place. between south of Hungry Harbor In closing The complete beach access should be open with no restricted areas. We all are equal and the beach is a Drive and publicly owned treasure for all of us to enjoy. I cannot imagine being unable to drive on the beach. I cannot believe Pacific City you would consider taking something that has always been ours away. To not allow us to continue to enjoy our beaches Turnaround. 2. fully is unjustifiable. The beach north Covid -19 should not even be a consideration Or an excuse to close. Access. If you want to separate people give them 618 tdm mcP ck pct of Tierra room to separate by allowing complete vehicle access to all. There is plenty of beach parking for all. As a 50 year resident of Pacific City and doryman I have watched the tourist invasion of South Tillamook County. The dangers to people on the beach and the numerous other problems caused by vehicles (not to mention the oil contamination) should be plain to see. I agree with the Commissioners opinion that it has overwhelmed South County. I also agree with the stated opinions of the Commissioners. I urgently suggest the Commissioners vote to Yes close at least the Cape Kiwanda Parking lot access and the P.C. Turn around to vehicular beach access except for dory activity. Also, I have noted the almost total lack of parking enforcement on Cape kiwanda Drive. It should be an easy thing for 619 tdm mcP deputies to ticket the illegally parking.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 63 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Should allow beach access for dory fleet at Cape Kiwanda. There is no reason for vehicle access at Tierra Del Mar. No Vehicles on the beach cause safety and environmental risk. People do not comply with posted rules, and there is little 620 ck or no enforcement. Need to barricade access points where access is prohibited. I grew up there and still have property in the family in Woods and Cloverdale. Being able to drive on the beach is one 621 No tdm mcP ck pct of the many special things for that area.

622 Yes Vehicle traffic on our beaches has become a safety concern and prematurely erodes the resource for others to enjoy.. 623 No tdm mcP ck pct Manzanita Allowing vehicles on the beach allows the public to get to areas that they are unable to get to otherwise. 624 No tdm mcP ck pct It's necessary for recreation like paragliding and hang gliding

seasonal at "PC No turnaround" Boat use only at Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot access with day-use fee for parking lot (open Oct. 1 To Allow seasonal Beach access at "PC turnaround" (ie. Prohibited May 1 to Sept. 30), same dates as other State Beach 625 tdm mcP April 30) Closures in Tillamook Co. 626 No tdm mcP ck pct 627 Yes 628 No tdm mcP ck

My concerns are as follows: safety concerns having witnessed several near disasters with children and pets playing in the pathways of cars/suvs/trucks gunning it to get through the sand; the nightmarish messes left behind from heaps of trash easily hauled down onto the beach in cars but not cleaned up upon their departure; the spoiled experience of going to the beach to walk in the sand and enjoy family time BUT instead weaving through a literal “parking lot” of trucks, SUV’s and cars to get to the water’s edge; the limited bathroom facility for thousands of people resulting in people doing “their business” on private properties, children peeing right on the beach or hiding in the dunes; the lack of funds to keep up with monitoring the specific (formerly available before March closure) prohibition of cars/trucks/suvs to the north of the Cape boat ramp where the dory boats are allowed to park trailers on the beach and launch boats; and speeding trucks driving south of the Turnaround again spoiling the experience of taking a beach walk Yes but having to watch for “trafffic.” Overall, on a warm summer weekend, the beaches look like crammed winter holiday mall parking lots and the mentality of the drivers seems to vary from wreckless abandon, rudeness, stupidity and selfishness. Frankly, charging fees to park at the Cape parking lot and monitoring the out of control parking in neighborhoods should help manage the crowds. When the lots are full, then they are full. Unfortunately, unless the county wants to build parking garages and greatly expand the restroom facilities to accommodate thousands of visitors, the town is MAXXED when the lots are full. Tierra Del Mar has suffered greatly with the Facebook debacle and that small community has the nightmare on Monday mornings to have to clean up after the carloads of people who use their beach for theIr personal dumps. The safety issue of parking along the sides of the road south of Tierra del Mar also is Only Dory Fleet a huge concern. Doors swing open into traffic, pets and children are at risk getting in and out of cars, and excessive at Cape tourist trash lines both sides of the road where cars have parked on weekends. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO 629 Kiawanda PARKING ON OUR BEACHES except for dory boats and emergency vehicles.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 64 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I'm a paraglider who loves the Oregon coast. My family and I spend a substantial amount of time traveling to Oregon and understand the damage and expense associated with driving on the beach. While paragliders in general are responsible stewards of our environment, I know there are some people who are not. I would not be opposed to No paying an additional fee for a beach access permit. Vehicles that do not have this permit displayed could be ticketed and any infractions could lead to revocation of vehicle access. The funds received could be used to administer the 630 tdm mcP ck pct program and police the beach. 631 No tdm mcP pct Only dory boat or other boat launching should be allied at cape Kiwanda Prior to 2020, vehicle access at Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot was unmanageable and unsafe. Even with adequate personnel, the beach and parking lot would often become overwhelmed. Although I am advocating for permanent YES closure to vehicles at Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot, it is imperative to keep the access open to Dory launching and 632 tdm mcP landing activities.

I've used the beach access points for over 30 years to launch dorys and provide a safe way to get on the beach with kids and family. Closing access would severally limit the ability to visit the beach for me and my family. My family has owned property in the past in the county and would like to move back. We normally rent houses in Pacific City for 2 - 3 weeks or more per year in the fall and winter months, as well launching a Dory to fish through the summer. Not No having driving access to the beach would cause us to look at other areas.

I would encourage and like to see the requirement of a permit to access the entry points. Something like a 2 year permit issued by the county to only vehicles with four wheel drive. I feel this would reduce the number of issues seen on the beach, as well as help provide the funding needed to help support the activity. I would be in favor of anything up 633 tdm mcP ck pct to $200 dollars for this 2 year permit.

Denying access by county authorities could lead to closing beach areas to public use and the private/business access only. Oregon (Pacific City especially) has a wonderful resource in our beaches. It is my opinion that at certain times of No the year when there is a history of high impact beach usage the resources necessary to monitor or limit usage should be enforced. The Pacific City Dorymen should always have access as this is a necessary mode of access to ocean waters 634 tdm mcP ck pct for the livelihood of local families and community.

It is a wonderful thing to be able to drive on the beach however at Cape Kiwanda parking lot and the beach there is Yes very dangerous due to overcrowding. Allowing Dory boats access to this beach makes sense as the lively hood for the 635 tdm mcP pct fishermen and enjoyment of the sports fishermen is something I would like to see continue. Vehicles should be allowed on these beaches. The hungry harbor boat launch area is the only access that should be 636 No tdm mcP pct restricted for use other then launching boats.

I feel as though it is a major attraction to living in Pacific City and visiting our amazing community. It provides a NO unique experience. It allows for ease of access to those that otherwise may not be able to get on the beach. Allows for 637 tdm mcP ck pct greater distance between groups of people, making it feel like your own personal beach.

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638 No tdm ck pct No vehicles on Cape Kawasaki beach. Way too dangerous for the dory fleet. The visitors never seem to read the signs Pc turn around is to dangerous when there was so many cars on beach. they would get stuck and block everything 639 YES tdm mcP up.shuttle busses would be perfect to drop off people for on the beach without cars 640 No tdm mcP There is plenty of beach at terra del Mar. Cape kannada should only be for dory boats on beach. There's just to many cars on beaches with alot of people and not alot of room.cape Kiwanis should stay like it is.much 641 YES tdm mcP safer now

Speaking in terms of the common law, it is my understanding that unless the people with their vehicles on the beach are No causing harm to anyone, the people have the natural unalienable right to be on the beach with their vehicle. It is unlawful to deny the peoples rights when there is no harm caused. The most a municipal government can lawfully do 642 tdm mcP ck pct is offer advisory statements but enforcement is outside of their jurisdiction.

No Keeps cars from blocking cape Kiwanda dr and helps manage the amount of cars needing to park in lots around the 643 tdm mcP ck pelican. Closing the beach didn’t deter people from coming, just caused worse traffic than it could have been. Not allowing parking on the beach will make parking inPacific City a nightmare, but prohibiting beach parking is still the right thing to do. For reasons of safety, preventing trash, and environmental stewardship,I support the ban. Also a Yes good idea is the fee to public park anywhere else in Pacific City. Selfishly, I hope all these things will discourage day trippers. But I do pay property taxes, so I have a right to complain! Just let me buy an annual pass so I don’t have to 644 buy one every day. 645 No tdm mcP ck pct 646 No tdm mcP ck pct

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I would prefer that the current prohibitions would be made permanent for the following reasons:

### Reducing safety risks

It seems to be very easy for both drivers and pedestrians to be distracted when on the beach. I believe that limiting vehicle access to boat and kayak launching would reduce the likelihood that the close calls I had seen in the past would ever become real injury accidents in the future.

### Reducing beach trash Yes The beach south of Cape Kiwanda seems to have much less day-use trash on it since non-launching vehicles were prohibited this spring. I believe that people who carry their stuff to the beach are more likely to carry their trash away when they leave than those who brought all of their excess stuff directly to the beach in their vehicles.

### Reducing another major nuisance

It has been so much more pleasant to walk on the dryer beach sands without having to wade through hundreds of vehicle tire ruts crisscrossing every which way. I believe that many people who enjoy and respect the beaches would 647 regret encountering the return of this nuisance if the vehicle access prohibition were lifted.

I have been a property owner, and a tax payer in Tillamook County since 1977. Since that time I have enjoyed fishing, beach combing and among other things the freedom of driving on the beach. In the early days it provided my parents the opportunity enjoy the mouth of the Nestucca River and the north side of Cape Kiwanda as they were not able to walk long distances. Now 43 years later I find myself having it difficult to walk long distances as they did. No I urge you, the commissioners, not to take away this privilege from me and my contemporaries. The charging of access fees and the regulation of speed and the requirement for safe driving would help limit the access of the general public, promote safety and provide funds for enforcement. Again please don't take away one of the pleasures of enjoying the beach. Thank you. 648 tdm mcP pct Scott Culp 649 Yes tdm Cape Kiwanda should only allow dory boat launching. 650 No tdm mcP ck pct

As someone that loves to walk the beach I enjoy the stretch south of the pelican pub to the mouth of the river!! I hardly No ever see cars down there and when I do they’re always respectful and I do not feel endangered in anyway!!!!! I feel like 651 tdm mcP ck pct there’s lots of opportunities for walking on the beach without feeling endangered

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 67 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I’d like to see more ticketing for parking violations. No I appreciated last summer the park ranger letting people know if they don’t have 4 wheel drive they cannot go on the 652 tdm mcP ck pct beach.

Yes None of the There’s no reason for vehicles to be on the beach. For the safety of kids, dogs, seabirds, and everyone, please restrict 653 above beach access for ALL vehicles at all access points. This will cut down on noise and emissions too. It can be dangerous and people end up getting vehicles stuck in the sand. also children are in danger of getting ran 654 Yes tdm over. It's time to open up our beaches. It's time to let the residents enjoy part of why they live here in PC. Dorymen need to No get back on the beach, surfers, elderly, children, and families. There are no recorded incidents on 3 of the beaches you 655 tdm mcP ck pct listed above. And, only 1 on the other. I think that the turn around access should be paved like the beach access at Fort Stevens Park. I think the Capre 656 No tdm mcP pct Bob Straub Park Kiawnda parking lot beach access should be limited to Dory Boats launching.

I believe the Cape should be for dory boat only. The tourist ruin it...turning it into a big parking lot. There was no beach and it was no longer safe. If you open the turn around I would like to see it from Sept 15 to May 15 like Fort No Stevens. I would also like to see more of a paved drive onto beach at that point like they have done at Fort Stevens. I want to see Tierra Del Mar remain open year around so those of us that are handicap and want to walk the beach have 657 tdm mcP access. Maybe more signs to block cars from driving in front of the houses and higher fines. I have two young children and there have been many times when a truck comes roaring up the dunes at the turn-around, Yes or zooming down the beach (even in the no-car section) and my heart skips a beat fearing for my children's safety as 658 they play on the beach. 659 No tdm mcP ck pct Dory launching is a huge part of the history and culture of Pacific City and should remain allowed. 660 Yes It has been this way for ever, this is just another way to take more privileges from the public. My family has been No accessing the beach for 90 years as a Dory fisherman and as recreational user, don't take this away just manage it like 661 tdm mcP ck pct any other state park.

Beach access via vehicles has opened up so many possibilities and it is one thing that makes this part of the coast so special! Losing that would be losing a part of the Oregon coast. Vehicle access is a great way for older and disabled people to get down to the water and live a life as free as possible. It can also be a way the same group of people can exercise their dogs. Other groups rely on this access too. Dory boats are iconic in the area! It would also be detrimental No to other people who recreate there. The guys with the hang gliders must have access to the cape! This is a historic site for them and a rare site worldwide for clean sand coastal flying. Families also us this access for picnics, pictures and sun bathing! Some people just are not physically equipped to hike into these areas. Of course anything open to the public with attract the few bad apples, the parties and drug users, the trash slingers, but let’s not let this small group of people ruin something good for the rest of us. The benefits far outweigh them! If anything let’s implement HUGE fines 662 tdm mcP ck pct on littering and let everyone else enjoy our beautiful outdoors😊😊

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 68 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow It's pretty hard to enjoy a peaceful beach walk, especially with children or a dog when you have to be on the lookout for speeding cars. There are plenty of places for cars to drive, I'd like to see the beach reserved for pedestrians to jog Yes or stroll in a car-free environment. Our community is not blessed with many sidewalks or public pathways; we already have to walk along roads and dodge cars to take a walk. It doesn't make sense to me to extend this problem to the 663 beach. 664 No tdm mcP pct Dorys only should be allowed at Cape K. 665 No tdm mcP pct

It is time for Tillamook county to put the short term rental funds they are collecting for "TOURIST" enhancement and Build facilities with restrooms that allow the Tourist to park away from the Beach and walk in. The Beach ecosystem is severely damaged every time a vehicle ventures out on the sand. This last summer at the Tierra Del Mar access easily had 1000 cars parked from the waters edge to the eastern dune every weekend. The Porta potties were so far away that No visitors just squatted behind their vehicles and let it fly! When these tourist left the left their trash and wastes behind. The other positive thing the Commissioner's must do is protect the rights of the Historic "Dory Fishermen" and their safe access to the Pacific city launch. We had so many people on that beach that it became so dangerous for launch and retrieval. I strongly support this County Tourist attraction needs restricted access allowing the Dories to launch and 666 ck retrieve safely and stop the swimmers and boarders from the area . 667 Yes tdm mcP Vehicle beach access at the Cape Kiwanda Parking lot for other than Dory launching has become a safety hazard. In an effort not to get stuck in the sand or relocate vehicles for incoming tide(s), drivers put beach goers at unnecessary YES risk. Additionally, rescue vehicles cannot access victims due to the overcrowding caused by allowing so many vehicles 668 on the beach. I understand some of the problems caused by allowing vehicles on the beach at these locations, however, driving and parking on the beach continues to be a valuable way for people to recreate at the beach and provides parking area that No is otherwise scarce at these locations on busy days. Tourists want to come spend their money in these areas, and 669 tdm mcP ck pct decreasing the parking just means they will go somewhere else. All accesses that No were open pre- It is ridiculous to use Covid as an excuse to close beach access for vehicles. Beaches get swept clean twice a day by 670 tdm mcP ck pct Covid the tide. Oregon has had access for the public as a tradition. There is no reason to change that now 671 No tdm mcP ck pct All! It has been done safely for years all over the country. I have no concerns.

1) I'm fundamentally against loss of rights. 2) I'm vehemently against "COVID" being the trojan horse causing that loss of that right - temporarily - then leveraged from there pushing for the permanent loss of that right. 3) I'm for a better management plan allowing for day-fee usage (or annual permit) allowing use of these resources, all the while No providing necessary funding for safety and sanitation, especially in areas such as Pacific City, which experiences high All beaches day-use of beach resources but not much economic stimulus to the local economy from the day-use people coming and restored to pre- going. Florence Oregon (Honeyman Park and others) comes to mind as a resource that is well managed, allowing dune 672 tdm mcP ck pct COVID status. access and fee structure supporting that local resource.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 69 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Cape Kiwanda is too small for the number of vehicles that use it, especially on busy summer weekends. With the Dory fleet it becomes unsafe without law enforcement or park folks there to manage it. No The current restrictions allowing boat launching and recovery work well - continue that. 673 tdm mcP pct The other access points are less used and do not create safety issues. In my opinion they are overstepping their authority in this issue and are trying to justify their actions by saying it is the 674 No tdm mcP ck pct will of the people, when in fact, it is only a few that are trying to close our beach access. Lifelong resident and feel access should be allowed everywhere but Cape Kiwanda. Too many dangerous situations 675 Yes tdm mcP pct involving tourists who cannot navigate sand. Dangerous for dory launchers. It should be continued to be allowed in existing areas. There is no valid reason to take that access away. It IS public 676 No tdm mcP ck pct land for public use

No There is no reason to use COVID as an excuse to close beach access to vehicles. As an owner of a house in Cape 677 tdm mcP ck pct Meares, I feel I have a grasp on coastal concerns and having vehicles on a few beaches is not a problem. 678 No tdm mcP ck pct This has been a tradition for many families for generations. 679 No tdm ck pct 680 No tdm mcP ck pct People need safe outlets to enjoy life the impact to the elderly and the disabled is not being considered in this decision. All user groups should be considered No in this decision, the limited number of times the beaches are crowded should not impact the local community for the 681 tdm mcP ck pct entire year. Pleas respect the Oregon tradition of beach access. thank you I would be sorely disappointed if the beaches are shut down to vehicle traffic. Im sure the money spent with local No business would be missed when I take it to other areas due to lack of vehicular beach access. As of now I spend 682 tdm mcP ck pct approx. 30 days a year on the Oregon coast. 683 No tdm mcP ck pct Access should be allowed. 684 No tdm ck pct 685 No tdm mcP ck pct

This would be seeking to solve a problem that does not exist. Yes, the beach can become crowded. But this happens No at points in time and is managed reasonably amongst citizens. Easy enhancements on signage and direction at choke points can help ease pain points without heavy investment in "patrol." Please don't remove our historical access to the 686 tdm mcP ck pct beach year round to solve your annoyance at visitors who fuel the coastal economies. 687 NO tdm mcP ck pct Buy a permit. If vehicles have been allowed on the beach this should not be changed.

This are spots that are great for families to access the coast that do not require access fees like many other areas. These No access points also allow people to spread out from each other. These access points permit the physically disabled and elderly to have easy access to the beach by riding in a vehicle. Without these access points you will be 688 tdm mcP ck pct excluding/depriving the disabled/elderly from reasonable use of traditional Oregon beach access. 689 NO tdm mcP ck pct I support vehicle recreation on these beaches.

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690 No tdm mcP ck pct My wife is unable to walk to the beach, so driving onto the beach is our best option. I would support speed limits.

Tillamook County depends on tourist revenue generated by the tourists - local and out of state- limiting beach access seems incredibly short sighted by the county which would restrict public access to the coastal areas which have traditionally been a mainstay. You will be imposing further hardships to your communities businesses and residents who depend on tourism dollars for subsistence...not a good plan of action for recovery either. My family and I visit No Tillamook regularly - 5-6 times per year and make a habit of buying locally in Tillamook county to support your county's businesses and residents. If you do follow through with limiting beach access in your county it will discourage us from visiting- we will make plans to frequent other areas that show support for their communities businesses and residents that are struggling to make ends meet during these trying times, I can understand temporary restrictions due to 691 tdm mcP ck pct the current COVID pandemic, but to make them permanent? Absolutely not.... I believe in access to public spaces, vehicle and otherwise. Increase lodging taxes or local fuel taxes with mandatory 692 No tdm mcP ck pct spending only for sheriff and first responders, NOT to County general fund.

No This seems like complete over reach by county commissioners. This is reminescent of the commissioners strong, over 693 tdm mcP ck pct reaching and largely ineffective response to covid 19 and brings in to question the effectiveness of this group. 694 No tdm mcP ck pct 695 No tdm mcP ck pct

All access points should remain No open as they were previously 696 tdm mcP ck pct covid It is fully acceptable as it has been in the past.

My good friends, Tom Butterfield (of Tillamook), Ted Lew and I make 2-4 trips a year with Pacific City dory charter boat fisherman. Typically we book the whole boat. This is worth $750 to $1000 in revenue to the charter operator plus No our purchase of fuel, lunches and (post pandemic) a visit to the Pelican brew house for an ale. If the beach access is closed, both Mr. Butterfield and Mr. Lew will be unable to participate in this fishery due to health problems (hip, back and knees) which necessitate riding to and from the beach launch site in a vehicle. Your local businesses will lose our 697 pct revenue if we are prevented from vehicle use on the beach. Please do not exclude us from this tradition. 698 No tdm mcP pct 699 No tdm mcP pct 700 No tdm mcP ck pct 701 No tdm mcP ck pct I see no issue with it. Let vehicles on the beaches. 702 No tdm mcP ck pct Do not change a thing! Beach is for vehicles! Why is there a question about it?

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 71 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I think that times have changed, and that there are too many visitors visiting our beautiful beaches to allow shared Yes access of vehicles and pedestrians. Increased vehicle traffic is a danger to people, dune recovery, and the nesting birds 703 and animals in these areas. Vehicle beach access is important to those of us who can't walk long distances. I use the beach to fish, collect rocks, No visit tidepools and clam. But because of spine issues I cannot walk very long on soft sand. I don't do a lot of driving 704 tdm mcP ck pct on the beach, but I do it and I need to be able to do it. The beaches are cleaner and safer when vehicles are not allowed. Safer for pedestrians, water activities such as YES surfing; safer for children playing and dog walking. Bringing vehicles onto beaches encourages longer stays, much 705 pct more litter and poor hygiene, alcohol consumption. Prohibiting vehicle access to beaches is solving a problem that doesn't exist. It is an unnecessary impediment to public 706 No tdm ck pct access and use of public property. 707 No tdm mcP ck pct If not people will be way to condensed 708 No tdm mcP ck pct

The beaches are a public right of way and should be open to all people, street legal vehicles, horses, hikers, boaters, hang gliders, etc... The PC and McPhillips approaches were much more crowded and congested at the access points this year because it is hard for people to carry all of their supplies for a day at the beach and they understandably setup No at the closest beach spot to their car. The Tierra del Mar beach had beach goers dangerously parking on the busy road way to access the beach. There isn't much a shoulder for parking on the beach side of road. The wide shoulder for parking is good on the East side of highway, requiring people to put themselves and drives at risk as they cross the road to access the beach. A day at the beach is much safer, less congested and more enjoyable for all when vehicles access is 709 tdm mcP ck pct allowed onto the beaches.

710 No tdm mcP ck pct Beaches are public property and all access should be allowed, foot, horse, bike or motorized vehicle it shouldn't matter. Beach access is permitted by law via Oregon Beach Bill. This should not be revoked. Use this access for paragliding 711 No tdm mcP ck pct the coast and it is very important. I don't think anyone should drive on the beach except for the dorymen. I see no reason for it. It gets crazy during the tourist season. I hate to see people driving to the mouth.. the access point at the turnaround is dangerous. I am Yes surprised no one has been hurt.

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No It's been part of my family's history to drive and play on the beaches of just not Tillamook County but the whole 714 tdm mcP ck pct Sand Lake Oregon coast. To take away our right to access OUR beaches is not right, they're part of our history and our rights! 715 No tdm mcP ck pct The limited amount of parking will create even more dangerous situations for people trying to enjoy this beautiful part 716 No tdm mcP ck pct of our state.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 72 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow It is a well established tradition that allows sports people, families and the elderly access to Oregon's beaches that 717 No tdm mcP ck pct should be maintained. Please continue to facilitate paragliding and hang gliding at Cape Kiwanda. It is an intensely important resource for 718 Yes tdm mcP ck pct our community.

No PUBLIC beaches should not be closed to the PUBLIC. Many people are using the outdoors to cope with loss of jobs 719 tdm mcP ck pct All beach access and the world being shutdown. Shutting down a means to relax and escape will only make things worse.

No I feel that vehicle access to the listed beaches should still be allowed. I understand the need to close the beaches for 720 tdm mcP ck pct Covid conditions, but once that is over the beach access should be restored to the prior conditions. Oregon beaches should remain fully accessible to motor vehicle traffic where reasonable road to sand beach transition 721 No tdm mcP ck pct exists. I visit the beach on the weekends and during Covid it’s helpful to keep distance by driving onto the beach with my 722 No tdm mcP ck pct Subaru versus filling up a parking lot. 723 No tdm mcP ck pct All of them It appears you guys are looking for a problem with your solution.

you don,t have the capacity for parking on the road. could you imagine? Webb county park is for campers not a No parking lot. on highway 18, their is several billboards come to pacific city. sure, a lot of stress for the municipality. this is also a huge revenue for the city ,and county. its called tourist. that,s where locals make their money to live. other 724 tdm mcP ck pct county,s have money shortfalls also. keep it for the us tourists. as it has been historically. thanks I have enjoyed the limited vehicle access as it existed from 2009 to 2019, and it has always felt appropriate, and 725 No tdm mcP ck pct respected by other users, to me.

I am most interested in preserving access to the northern side of Cape Kiwanda. I learned to fly hang gliders there 30 years ago when I was 16 years old and continued to fly both hang gliders and paragliders there over the years. It is a world class training site because of its easy access, consistent winds, giant landing zone and progressive slope. If the Yes access is removed, the other factors become moot.

There are many decades of history created by that site. Closing it would be a terrible loss to the free flying community and the economy of the area. Not to mention the fact that budding pilots will be forced to train at locations that are less 726 tdm mcP ck pct safe and forgiving than Cape Kiwanda, increasing the probability of injury and loss of participation. Our beaches do not need motorized vehicles driving on them. There are no positive consequences and many negative 727 Yes consequences of allowing such access. It’s not a matter of ALLOWING vehicles on the beach. It a matter of resuming the policy that ALLOWED vehicles on 728 No tdm mcP ck pct the beach. 729 No tdm mcP ck pct

No For Handicap and children it’s a lot easier to have beach access. If driving on the beach is closed, I would have no use 730 tdm mcP ck pct to going to a Tillamook County beach. I will seek out a different county to take my tourist money to.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 73 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 731 No tdm mcP ck pct Please keep the beach access open for the residents of Oregon to ensure their outdoor activities!!! Thank you for your 732 No tdm mcP ck pct support and assistance regarding this issue. I learned to fly paragliders on Cape Kiwanda dune 23 years ago. Not having vehicle access would shut down all hang 733 No tdm mcP ck gliding and most paragliding. 734 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should be allowed on the beach. hang gliding 735 No launch sites don't like it, just want to be able to launch without having to carry kite so far. many tourists like seeing the flying Yes yes for access . why would u cut off access just because a few who are transplants from other states have a new 736 No tdm mcP ck pct vision .pull your heads out of the sand !!!

No vehicles on Yes beaches (besides 737 dory boats) 738 Yes I’d rather there be no vehicles on any beaches 739 Yes ck They are a hazard and speed limits are not enforced. There is no valid reason to allow vehicular traffic on our beaches, with the exception of Cape Kiwanda parking lot, which allows dories access to beach and could give those with disabilities vehicle access to beach, as well. With ever increasing numbers of visitors and vehicles driving on our beaches, the sand is eroding, bird’s, crab’s and other native wildlife and vegetation habitats are being destroyed, and people who are relaxing on the beach and birds are being endangered by speeding, zigzagging vehicles, who are ignoring signs prohibiting beach driving and CDC’s Yes Covid 19 safety and health guidelines of social distancing. Beaches are no longer the sole access routes for vehicles and driving on the beach is not permitted in North County, so why allow it on South County beaches? With limited resource personnel for law enforcement, the time has come to prohibit vehicular traffic on beaches, with the exception of Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot. Thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion on this important topic. 740 ck

741 Yes Feel there should not be vehicles on beach. Should be only pedestrians. Dangerous to mix cars and pedestrians.

No Limiting amounts on cape Kiwanis and pacific city could be justifiable but there is no reason to ban them from all 742 tdm mcP ck pct access points. Driving out onto the beach and hanging out is a great experience for everybody and generations to come

This creates extreme hardship for the handicapped to be able to access the beach. We live in Tillamook and enjoy No going to the beach. If this restriction takes place we will be no longer be able to get sand in our toes. It becomes another blockade for those who are handicapped. There are already enough of those in daily life!! Please don't take 743 tdm mcP ck pct away our opportunity to enjoy the beach like others who are not physically challenged!!!

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I have been a resident of Oregon for 47 years. I feel strongly that we need to keep the beach access open for vehicles. No There are many people who need to be able to drive onto the beach for health or handicap reasons, or bringing 744 tdm mcP ck pct firewood down for family campfires. Please don’t close the beaches down to vehicle access. Vehicular access to north Cape Kiwanda from McPhillips drive is highly beneficial for paragliding activities. Less distance required to carry flying gear to the dune from the small parking lot. Also, having easier access will be No beneficial for EMS/Fire/Rescue vehicles in case of an medical emergency. Cape Kiwanda is one of three locations I 745 tdm mcP ck pct regularly fly a paraglider here on the Oregon Coast. 746 No tdm mcP ck pct It is a coastal past time. We have limited so much through out the years of where people can and can’t go. . Why do we keep closing down No access points for people and locals to enjoy? This is oregon, let people enjoy the beach with being able to drive on 747 tdm mcP ck pct them. Close off one thing and people will find a way to still get down to the beach. I'm a senior with a handicap parking permit. It is difficult to walk any distance. For me to be able to access a dory No fishing trip I have to be able to get to and from the boat easily. Let alone the restroom. If you take away access you're 748 tdm mcP ck pct impacting my life all up and down the Tillammok County beaches. Please don't do this. 749 No tdm mcP ck pct All Open all

750 No tdm mcP ck pct This is one of the highlights as a Native Oregonian. Getting to take the family on the beautiful Oregon beach. 751 No tdm mcP ck pct They should allow vehicles on the beach where ever they are currently allowed. 752 No tdm mcP ck pct Whats it hurting?? Do the coastal towns all of a sudden hate money? Im a atv rider and we spend alot of money and 753 No tdm mcP ck pct really enjoy our time on the coast almost year round along with thousands of other Oregonians. 754 No tdm mcP ck pct It should continue to be allowed. 755 No tdm mcP ck pct I believe it allows families to interact and for some who can't walk the beach it allows access

I learned to fly hang gliders at Cape Kiwanda in 1974. I soon discovered how unique this site was for the process of learning to fly. I will be 70 in February and am in the process of learning to fly a new type of glider. I have already lost a season of practice due to Covid19 closure since it is not practical to carry this glider from the parking lot to the No dune used for flying. I have spent countless hours looking for alternative sites to use for the learning process and have come up with nothing. New pilots have come from California, Washington, Idaho and beyond to learn to fly here for many years because of the unique terrain and consistent winds Cape Kiwanda offers. Closing vehicle access essentially 756 mcP closes this site to hang gliding as a beginner/learning site forcing new pilots to attempt to learn at much less safe sites. 757 No tdm mcP ck pct

No my family and I frequent the beaches regularly and I feel it would be unfair for limited beach access for vehicles. 758 tdm mcP ck pct All others Especially unfair to those that are handicapped or have some type of restrictions that limit their mobility. 759 No tdm mcP ck pct It’s one of the few places left in oregon where we can drive on the beach. 760 No tdm mcP ck pct We need more beach access not less.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 75 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 761 No tdm mcP ck pct Speed limits are fine just don’t lock/block us out! 762 No tdm mcP ck pct Every where Don't go on the beach if you don't have 4 wheel drive 763 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should always be allowed on public land. We've been paying for them for years just because it's not being managed correctly by the correct people and it is a No growing industry that isn't going to stop. Just because a few are upset . But instead of come up with a solution you just 764 tdm mcP ck pct shut them down. Very sad. Public vehicle access gives people the ability to enjoy the beautiful Oregon Coast. The unlimited parking and ease of No access plays a huge role in more people coming and spending money at local businesses. We need to keep small towns 765 tdm mcP ck pct alive! Raise the speed limit at low tide. 766 No tdm mcP ck pct Any other point Should always be allowed. 767 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should be allowed 768 No tdm mcP ck pct I think vehicles should be allowed on the beach to better appreciate the beauty of the pnw There is no place for vehicles to be on the beach 769 Yes With people, children and animals. 770 No tdm mcP ck pct All 771 No tdm mcP ck pct

Lifelong resident of Tillamook County. The issue of vehicles on the Beach is being blown out of proportion. I have gone to Terra del Mar many many times to walk the beach and fly my kite. It is a nice convenience to drive onto the beach and park.I have NEVER come away disgusted because of an over-abundance of people driving in these No locations. Sure there are times when others are enjoying the benefits of driving onto the beach- but it has always been reasonable and sensible. During the pandemic perhaps there has been an increase in visitors to these beaches but I believe it will pass. (Lack of other places available to go) I do not believe this is the time (2020) to make a determination. Local people and visitors have enjoyed these locations for decades with very minimal negative 772 tdm ck behavior. The concerns and wishes of the locals should be strongly considered. Hurts no one 773 No tdm mcP ck pct Brings people together 774 No tdm mcP ck pct Limiting access is unconstitutional, and quite honestly anyone who puts this into motion should be released from their 775 No tdm mcP ck pct duties. You already closed majority of the access to all of the mountains and forest lands and now you want to take away the 776 No tdm mcP ck pct beach. 777 No tdm mcP ck pct 778 No tdm mcP ck pct 779 No tdm mcP ck pct It relieves Parking on roads and allows more spacing of ppl- plus endless entertainment when ppl get stuck 780 No tdm mcP ck pct They are ok on the beach

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 76 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I think allowing cars on the beach causes no harm but a law of trash should be applied i think a lot of people leave trash 781 No tdm mcP ck pct and that is unacceptable 782 No tdm mcP ck pct 783 No tdm mcP ck pct Enables vehicle traffic to experience the beaches further and faster than foot traffic 784 No tdm mcP ck pct They don't cause any problems and they are not a coved issue I grew up doing this. I am one of the few that ALWAYS packs out what I pack in. And I have instilled that in my 785 No tdm mcP ck pct children. Closures isn’t the answer. Educating people to be better is worth the time and money. 786 No tdm mcP ck pct Launching and retrieving dory boats or wet bikes 787 No tdm mcP ck pct All acess points No shall be un 788 tdm mcP ck pct restricted Limiting travels and acxesbility to public land is a disgrace wheather it be beacehes or wooded areas 789 No tdm mcP ck pct Enjoy driving down on the beach to sit and watch the waves and birds. It's so relaxing and peaceful.

The ability to drive out on the beach in certain sections is a great way for family’s like mine to access the beach. We No specifically go to these points for that reason, the majority of Oregon beaches are not accessible by vehicle and limiting 790 tdm mcP ck pct that further will just limit the places family’s like mine and many others visit regularly. For us, it’s a family tradition to go out and drive out onto the beaches. For sand lake area in particular, the ability to drive out on the beach is one that allows us to get away from the crowds in the parking/camping spots on the asphalt. No Stopping the ability to drive on the beach would be a mistake, and would result in some lost revenue for Tillamook 791 tdm mcP ck pct County.

Do what the government does VERY well. Put a tax on it. A special permit tax to drive on the beaches. Every beach No county could levy their own tax. Think of all that extra money the State would bring in on fines it a car didn't have a 792 tdm mcP ck pct permit sticker. Sounds like a new gold mine to me. Tom McCall will be turning over in his grave if this goes through.

793 No tdm mcP ck pct Still a lot of beaches that aren't accessible by cars. I think this amount of access is fair for people with disabilities. It’s a tradition for a lot of families / individuals while growing up, me included. It’s one of the few places left where No people can relax with a blanket while watching the waves, or their kids and they can be at peace. Nobody wants to have 794 tdm mcP ck pct this privilege taken away. Let us keep it alive. All current 795 No tdm mcP ck pct access points please do not change current practices regarding access . Do not over regulate, 796 No tdm mcP ck pct All others It allows people who are not able to walk the beach to enjoy it in another way if they are disabled. 797 No All Makes it easier and better atmosphere 798 Yes tdm mcP ck pct Public land should have public access, cars are simply the accepted transportation medium for the developed world. No Hence cars and trucks should continue to have beach access to allow for the exploration and recreation on our beloved 799 tdm mcP ck pct land.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 77 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 800 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles on the beach is a valuable tradition in Oregon and does no harm. It is one of the reasons people from the 801 No tdm mcP ck pct valley come down. Allowing vehicles on the beach in Pacific City leads to over crowding of the beaches which makes boat launching 802 Yes tdm mcP unsafe. ALL TRADITIONAL No ACCESS 803 tdm mcP ck pct POINTS Allowing vehicles on the beach spreads the use out instead of concentrated crowds. All other access 804 No tdm mcP ck pct points

No All others that It's the only way dory fishing can continue. Generations have been doing it with no issues. It's great for seniors and 805 tdm mcP ck pct have been closed handicapped people to access the ocean.

806 No tdm mcP ck pct It is the only think people can do right now. It gets them out of the house. They spend fun time with their family. 807 No tdm mcP ck pct All areas This is crap, one of my favorite things is riding on the beach.

As a parent of two small children, I'm very concerned about vehicles on the beach. When vehicles were allowed I always had to be extra vigilant because many vehicles would drive quickly so as to avoid getting stuck and driver's weren't watching carefully. Now that vehicles currently aren't allowed my wife and I come to the beach with our kids Yes more often and enjoy it much more.

I have absolutely no issue with continuing to allow the dory boat fishermen to continue to be able to drive vehicles on 808 the beach for the purpose of hauling their boats. But, all other vehicle use should continue to be prohibited.

I think this is great for family and friends, especially in these covid times. NO It's great to drive to the beach. It gives me access to scenic beauty that I would not have been able to walk to. 809 tdm mcP ck pct Sandlake 810 No tdm mcP ck pct This is valuable parking area 811 No tdm mcP ck pct These beach access points are the only way I can get my aging parents to the beach. Please keep open. Allowing beach access for vehicles brings a unique attraction for Tillamook to offer people. We especially enjoy it, we have a special needs toddler and having my truck with us makes a day on the sand possible. Otherwise we have to make the drive to Long Beach. Perhaps invest in better signage at the access points, encourage (not mandate) 4x4 and No high clearance vehicles only and discourage cars or other low clearance vehicles. Also reach out to 4x4 clubs for cleanup days as many are willing and eager to help out and love the opportunity to give back, and keep the beach open. 812 tdm mcP ck pct Thanks so much for asking for input! 813 Yes tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 78 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow I oppose vehicle access on all Oregon public beaches for four reasons: 1- It is unsafe to have vehicles on beaches. People go crazy driving when they go to the beach. Combining children and families and reckless people and alcohol and lack of controlled lanes and lack of supervision Is a recipe for disaster. 2- Allowing vehicles to drive on the beach is obviously damaging to the environment and precious habitat and threatened plant and animal species. Yes 3- Allowing vehicle access to beaches is a tourist magnet. Our family has been a homeowner in Tierra Del Mar for 50 years and we are becoming overrun with tourist. Since there are few other options to drive on Oregon beaches, vehicle access at Tierra Del Mar is clearly a tourist magnet and a big contributor to our tourist nightmare. 4- McPhillips and Tierra Del Mar beach access points seem to have become the counties preferred solution to tourist parking problems. It is a ‘gut punch’ to have Tillamook county and various commercial interest in Pacific City pump up tourism for their own economic interest and then promote Tierra Del Mar as the solution to inadequate parking. If the county and various commercial interest need a parking lot or parking structure then build one someplace other than 814 on the beach. People who are not able to easily access the beach, should be allowed. Having a family member that can't walk very 815 No All far, this would be very detrimental to limit access It’s been a tradition, I learned how to drive a manual with my dads bronco on the way down to the mouth of the 816 No tdm mcP ck pct nestucca, I was hoping to share the same experience with my kid 817 No tdm mcP ck pct 818 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicle should be allowed on the beach all access just like the forest or anything else The pandemic has presented an onslaught of challenges for the world. A bright spot in the journey for many at the beach in Pacific City has been the closure of the beach vehicle traffic at Cape Kiwanda & the Turnaround, thus providing a peaceful and safe experience on the beach south of Cape Kiwanda. I have seen volleyball nets, beach umbrellas, toddlers & children with parents venturing safely over the dune with pails, shovels and sandcastle molds. I have not once feared for my life as a truck or SUV comes careening out of the fog nearly missing me. As an organizer of a neighborhood group Citizens On Sunset, we adopted the Nestucca River for cleanup via SOLVE Oregon, I am Yes amazed at the reduction of trash that we have had to pick up this year along Bob Straub State Park and at the mouth of the river. Our beaches are a natural resource, but first and foremost they are a habitat for marine life and wildlife. It is time that those elected oversee, protect and govern our lands and resources on all levels come together to set the example to follow suit with the remainder of the world. It is time to cherish and preserve those resources, not to mention keep our residents and visitors safe. I ask that you recognize there are designated recreational areas for vehicles and finally become the sterwards of the access closing our beaches to vehicle access that is so desperately 819 needed. Thank you in advance for your thoughful consideration. 820 No tdm mcP ck pct I have been driving on the beach my whole life and would still enjoy doing it. Winter is when I do it the most looking 821 No tdm mcP ck pct for glass floats. 822 No tdm mcP ck pct Governor Tom McCall. Beach Bill. We aren’t California!!

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 79 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Well I do not live there but do enjoy visiting. I do think it should only be open to 4WD vehicles. Maybe absorb these 823 No tdm mcP ck pct into the park system where you have to purchase a annual, monthly or day parking permit ? 824 No tdm mcP ck pct Why change it now? Oregon beaches are public, and 100% accessible. Leave it a lone

I have been to Pacific City many times. Prior to having a vehicle that can actually drive on sand, we would find ourselves lacking parking space near the brewery, plus it gets really busy. So going there would be iffy at best.

Then we found ourselves going to McPhillips or Tierra Del Mar. I don't do anything crazy. Once I am in the sand, I drive 20 to 25 mph and when I find a good spot, I park, and chill. I've seen stupid people do stupid things like donuts No which bothers me, but I don't think good and safe users of the beach should be punished by the actions of the few idiots out there.

I have also found that the times I have been North of Pacific City, we've never been crowded. Please allow us access at least North of Cape Kiwanda. I am one of many people who respect our beaches and do not leave trash behind or make 825 tdm mcP ck a mess. We respect the privilege of having a beach to drive on. 826 No tdm mcP ck pct Beaches should be for beachcombing, building sand castles with your grandchildren, flying kites, reading under an umbrella, running your dogs and strolling hand in hand with your lover. Countless times I've had to jump out of the Yes way of idiot drivers who care not what the pedestrians are doing on the beach. It's a shame it's gone on this long, please 827 prohibit vehicles on our beautiful beach! 828 No tdm mcP ck pct This is government over reach. Once they take it away, we will not get it back. This is historically a right and freedom to which all people can enjoy especially those who are disabled and cannot 829 No tdm mcP ck pct walk distance to access the beach and water. Its a great way for people to spread out and social distance. Compared to a parking lot which funnels people into one area. Going to the beach is healthy and the one of the safest activities you can do during covid. (Sunlight and fresh No air)... by using a vehicle you can get farther away from people too. Vehicles on the beach are a great way to fight 830 tdm mcP ck pct covid. I do not think there should be added restrictions to access public outdoor space due to covid. All this does is funnel If it is normally everyone into the same areas, creating larger crowds at the few spaces you've left open because the fresh air is good for No open, keep it us and keeps the immune system strong, as well as our VERY important emotional balance. Move on and open up like 831 tdm mcP ck pct open! the rest of the world! 832 No mcP ck pct Yes, vehicles should be allowed and Areas designated to drive.

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My family has been coming to the Pacific City area since the days there was only a pedestrian bridge across the river. We have owned property in Tierra Del Mar and Pacific City area since 1962 to the current time. My husband and I currently own an ocean front home on Sunset. We have never had a problem with people driving on the beach and have frequently done so ourselves. My husband is No now handicapped and driving on the beach is the only way he can get on the beach now. When we use the Tierra Del Mar access we frequently see families that have driven up the beach and are having a day camping/picnic on the beach. That’s a good thing. I have walked on the beach many times with a dog and never felt threatened by cars going slowly on the beach. Please don’t take away another one of the privileges and enjoyments of coming to the pacific City area. Gov Tom McCall designated Oregon's beaches as open for all. Let’s keep them that way. 833 tdm mcP ck pct Barbara Baltzell It has been really nice not having the cars at the Pelican parking, its already a zoo down there. Trying to separate them 834 Yes tdm mcP pct out is the better option.

All public beaches that are No accessible by vehicle should Vehicles driven responsibly on public beaches is a nice way to enjoy the public space I pay taxes for. Limiting this 835 tdm mcP ck pct be allowed. would not be fair. 836 No tdm mcP ck pct 837 No tdm mcP ck pct We strongly agree that there should not be any vehicle access on the beach other than boating activity.

My family has owned property at Cape Kiwanda for 50 years and of course over the years the beach visitation has greatly increased. Along with that, the amount of cars has also greatly increased and it is very unsafe for pedestrians and especially children's ability to safely play and run on the beach. Since the pandemic created a forced closure of Yes vehicle traffic on the beach, it has retuned the beaches to a safer environment that our children and all people can safely enjoy once again.

In addition we also feel that eliminating non essential vehicles on the beaches will lessen the surface pollution on the 838 beaches, for example litter, gas and oil from vehicles. Not allowing beach access makes people park anywhere they can that could lead to accidents. 839 No tdm mcP pct Maybe set up a beach access fee to offset hiring more patrols. 840 No tdm ck pct Please do not limit public access via vehicles to our public beaches.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 81 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Traffic access at those areas noted create a dangerous conflict between pedestrian access and auto access.

Traffic access at The TurnAround is particularly dangerious because there is NO defined separation of pedestrian and auto traffic as there is at The Cape location. (The Cape has will defined walkway access and drive access lanes)

The 'dune' condition at The TurnAround creates a dangerious condition in that auto need to approach the dune at 'high- Yes speeds', with NO ability to see pedestrians over the dune until they are at the top and begining their deswnt down the dune to the beach. Pedestrians are at risk. The same condition works in reverse when auto are leaving the beach.

Pedestrians who are walking up the dune do so across the entire width of the dune and very offen must 'skadder' in order to avoid approaching autos.

841 This particular access point is potentially the most dangerous access point of the 4 locations noted. Most oregon beaches already do not have vehicle access, please keep some beach access for vehicles for recreation that No is not supported on those other beaches. This provides more diverse beach access, with minimal real impact to the 842 tdm mcP ck pct beaches themselves. Being able to drive on the beach in Pacific City was a reason for moving here years ago. This allows people to spread No out without the congestion witnessed at Cape Kiwanda. This also allows me to haul fishing gear and other items that 843 tdm mcP ck pct would not be possible with a closure.

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Prohibiting vehicles on the beaches at Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot (Hungry Harbor Drive) and Pacific City Turnaround creates safer and cleaner beach environments for beach visitors and residents. My grandparent’s beach cabin in Pacific City has been a favorite vacation spot for my entire life. I grew up fishing on a dory and playing in the sandy front yard on many summer weekends. My own kids are enjoying visits to the cabin and the beach at Cape Kiwanda. These last few months without cars on the beach has been a literal dream come true. As a parent, it puts my mind at ease to know that I don’t have to worry about cars speeding along the shoreline or carelessly trying to drive up the banks.Allowing cars on the beach promoted an environment of driving and drinking with open alcoholic beverages in vehicles. I have called Tillamook County Sheriff’s nonemergency reporting line more than once to report people actively driving on the beach with beer cans in their hands. It seems that some of the population forgets that driving on the beach fall under the same laws and regulations as driving on an Oregon State Highway, where drinking and driving Yes is never legal. I can’t comment about the level of intoxication people reach when driving home from the coast, but I doubt most have sobered up completely. Overall, I feel that walking along the shoreline has become a safer place for people to walk and children to run and play because they do not have to watch out for vehicles driving down the beach. Since vehicles have been banned from driving on the beach at Cape Kiwanda, the shoreline seems cleaner. There is less litter that haphazardly drops from people’s vehicles. While visitors are still carrying their day tents, coolers, and other beach-day essentials from their car, the cars themselves are not leaking oils and other pollutants onto the soil. My grandmother recently had her sand pushed from around her oceanfront home. The sand in-between houses was not able to be pushed down the bank (toward the ocean) because it was deemed to “dirty” because of its proximity to cars and garbage dropped from people passing through. If that sand is not safe enough to be down by the ocean, why is it okay for many cars (sometimes over a hundred on weekends like Independence Day) to park right up against the shoreline all day long? Yes, long weekends with a higher volume of visitors will usually create more waste, but at least some of that can be reduced by keeping cars and the pollutants they leak in designated parking areas. 844 Thank you for the opportunity to provide testimony. Why not its sand waves wash away tracks.STOP TRYING TO SHUT THE SAND DUNES DOWN PEOPLE GET 845 No tdm mcP ck pct OVER YOURSELVES

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 83 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow My family and I have been driving vehicles safely on Tillamook County beaches since 1990. I am a photographer, beach comber, ocean lover and sometimes quad rider and I dry camp on the sand at least 10 times a year. My 3 boys have all their birthday parties in the sand. This is how much it means to them. Over the years we have met people from all over the world going to Sandlake. As we have also brought our family from Europe to experience driving along the beach and camping in this unique way. Sandlake and Cape Kiwanda are our second home. Tourism does take resources, but it also brings in cash with it, which can help to offset those costs. I have spent so much money at Tillamook businesses that I feel at home there, and we want to retire within this county so we can bring our grandchildren to experience these amazing access points to access our goregous sand dunes and oceans. If access is No closed to beaches, that could change our decisions on buying the second home there and not at a different beach. If you allow growth it will actually allievate the over crowding of some of the smaller access points. Making MORE access is a great idea. Charge a little more money for parking or sand use and be proud to show off what you have, or people will go somewhere else. So you know, I used to go to Canon Beach but once they closed access I stopped going. I still drive on the Sand in the fall and winter for storm watching photography and workshops at Pacific City/Dory launch. Sandlake East When I go to Seaside I always drive on the beach at Del Rey, because it's that important to me to be able to get all of and West Dunes my family down to the water and beach including the youngest of my family and my elderly in-laws. This is where we Lot/Sand spend our time. Why are you resisting this growth? Thanks for reading my feelings on vehicular beach driving and 846 tdm mcP ck pct Campground access.

I am a Doryman who owns a vacation home in Pacific City. This area has a long tradition of vehicle access. should this vehicle access be limited there will need to be a plan to provide sufficient parking for beach goers at all these points of No beach activity. Our mission of the Dorymen's Association is preserve the long history of beach launching our Dory's at Pacific City. We are here to help the County deal with increased popularity of the beaches in our county. Let's work 847 tdm mcP ck pct together so the general public gets what they need and the Dorymen get continued access to the beaches. My family has grown up riding OHV on the beach and really would love to keep it around for future generations to 848 No tdm mcP ck pct enjoy. It has been a tradition to drive/park on the beach & this a town with very limited parking so it really helps relieve the No pressures of parking. Why bother promoting the area if there is no place to park once people get here. Charge fees for 849 tdm mcP ck pct parking in the county lot or access to park on the beach. Oregon statutes designate Beaches are public roads and their access should be not limited due to the irresponsible 850 No tdm mcP ck pct actions of a few I like having the option especially if I have chairs and coolers and such to use on the beach to be able to drive it all to the spot I plan to hang out. Also for those who are not able to walk very easy for a long distance from the parking No areas or walk on the sand can have the experience that everyone else enjoys if they are able to drive to their spot on the beach. Also for the foul weather days it is nice to sit inside the car and enjoy the view and take pictures in the comfort 851 tdm mcP ck pct of my car. There should be no change in the previous pre covid rules on beach access. We moved from Multnomah County to No Tillamook county partly because of the great beach access. My wife is handicapped and cannot walk to regular 852 mcP ck pct beaches. This would not be a fair decision.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 84 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Vehicles should be allowed on the beaches. Better access for older and handicapped people to enjoy our great beaches 853 No tdm mcP ck pct and ocean.

Vehicles should absolutely be allowed on the beaches in Tillamook County. It would be wrong to limit the vehicular No access to the public land that has for all of time been available for the public to enjoy and use. This is a tradition I have 854 tdm mcP ck pct grown up knowing my entire life and it would be both devastating and unjustified to restrict access. 855 No tdm mcP ck pct 856 No tdm mcP ck pct 857 Yes Allowing vehicles onto the beach makes it much easier for families who have disabilities or elderly access to the beach 858 No tdm mcP ck pct which would be very hard if they had to park and walk. 859 No tdm mcP ck pct Don't take this away from us. I'm part of multiple generations that have used these beaches respectfully. This summer was a hot mess. We've seen where we need to improve. It will not always be like this covid summer once people are allowed to freely travel outside the state again. Limiting any of the beach drive access points will strain the Yes other points. It will hurt disabled people who use the points for beach access they otherwise wouldn't have. I myself 860 tdm mcP ck pct have missed mcphillips immensely this summer.

Motor vehicle use onto the beach should only be used for dory boats and emergency vehicles.

Motor vehicles on the beaches ruin the majestic beauty of Oregon beaches and bring pollution onto the beach.

Yes Motor vehicles also create a nuisance for people wanting to relax on the beach by sitting or walking. Instead, people have to keep their eyes out for motor vehicles when walking or sitting.

Disorderly conduct / improper behavior sometimes occur on the beach because people can bring inappropriate objects onto the beach by motor vehicle. Having no motor vehicles onto the beach discourages a person from bringing these 861 objects onto the beach because they are limited on what he/she can bring by hand onto the beach. I'm not necessarily in favor of allowing vehicles for recreation purposes, but for all fishermen - dory, kayak, PWC, etc. - No having vehicular access to the beach increases their ability to fish/crab in an enjoyable and safe manner. It should be 862 tdm ck allowed. People with disabilities and physical limitations should be allowed to limited access simply by displaying a valid Handicap Parking Permit from their vehicle. My elderly parents used to walk on the beach for years in their younger No days but once that was not possible due to their age, it was nice to take them for a short drive near the surf line and 863 tdm pct enjoy the scenery and view the wildlife.

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 85 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow My family has a home in Pacific city. We fish and enjoy time on the beach their almost every weekend. With the growing numbers of tourism it can be difficult but the beach can act as our biggest parking lot. While being close recently our town has been flooded with people parking where they shouldn’t. I love being able to drive on the beach No and know a handful of people that drive down almost everyday to simply play fetch with their dogs because their yard isn’t big enough. My greatest childhood memories come from driving around that coast line with my father and I wish 864 tdm mcP ck pct to recreate some of those memories with my son. I understand there are people (residents and visitors) who are unable to access the beach without being able to drive onto it due to mobility issues. Some accommodation needs to be made to allow them to access the beach at reasonable points. Maybe allowing additional access and designated parking areas near Hungry Harbor Drive with a handicap permit could be used to address this.

Beyond that, the area around Hungry Harbor Drive is simply too crowded to allow general vehicle access to that area of the beach. On a typical spring, summer, or fall weekend, and even during holiday and summer weekdays, the beach tends to be very crowded. Having cars on the beach during that time increases the danger of injury as pedestrians dart out from behind cars and cars attempt to navigate the crowds to find a parking spot. I believe access for the Dories needs to be maintained, but allowing the general public seems like a serious safety issue.

As for access at the Pacific City turnaround, the current access allows driving essentially past Bob Straub State Park and then to the Nestucca River mouth. During the same times noted above the beach adjacent to the State Park is becoming increasingly crowded and allowing vehicles into that area increases the danger of a pedestrian/vehicle No accident. Furthermore, the sands of the beach between the State Park and river mouth tend to shift and mound during the year, creating rises and valleys that vehicles must traverse, and at times there isn't enough beach in spots for vehicles and pedestrians to share. Even at low rates of speed, it is difficult to see pedestrians in those valleys until a vehicle topping the rise is too close to stop. I've walked this stretch of beach 3 times when vehicle access was still allowed and almost got hit twice.

If you want to allow some vehicle access in Pacific City for the general public, my suggestion would be to open a stretch of beach at the turnaround, possibly extending south to the northern boundary of the State Park, and perhaps expanding north to the Southernmost home in Kiwanda Shores. This area was traditionally open to driving and is a bit less crowded so cars might safely be accommodated. However, given the need to cross the dune and the significant speed and momentum needed for vehicles to top the dune and make it down the other side coming from either direction, some solution needs to be developed that provides a protected pedestrian access path as well. Otherwise, there is a risk cars trying to cross the dune to the beach will collide with pedestrians trying to access the beach at that 865 tdm mcP point.

866 No tdm mcP ck pct Closing beach access to vehicles would be a shame. It would also affect those with disabilities! Think about that. 867 No tdm pct 868 No tdm mcP ck pct Dory launching ,and handicap people need access ,

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 86 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow 869 No tdm mcP ck pct Vehicles should be allowed.

Please do not take any more of our rights away. I know there is risks in life but from what I saw this summer, closing NO everywhere like the beaches and access points to the beach created a far more dangerous situation as far as safety for pedestrians goes. 870 tdm mcP ck pct Tom McCall said Kids, families and people parking precariously on the side of the road trying to access the beach, These access points to the beach were closing during the spring and summer this year and it caused a parking disaster in Pacific City and Tierra Del Mar. TLT dollars have gone into a lot of advertising to tourists and they showed up this year. By having the beaches closed to vehicles, it forced visitors to find parking elsewhere, which caused very unsafe No areas in Pacific City and Tierra Del Mar. The beaches need to be opened for cars to accommodate the large number of visitors we see each year.

871 tdm mcP ck pct A lot of local residents also enjoy driving and parking on the beach with our families and friends.

WE live in Pacific City and have witnessed the unsafe and over-crowded vehicle situation. It's too much to try and Yes police and there will be accidents. As much as we love to drive on the beach, it's just not worth it the headache of 872 dealing with people obviously drinking, kids and dogs running all around; it's a dangerous situation for all. 873 NO tdm mcP ck pct Let people have legal access, if not they will ruin the rest if the land making their own ways in.

Common folks & the law abiding citiizens should have the right to drive street legal vehicles on the the beach. No Let's not punish the responsible tax paying citizens that want to use & access the public beaches with valid registered & 874 tdm mcP ck pct insured vehicles.

I've been vacationing at Pacific City, Cape Kiwanda since I was born. I'm 32 years old. My grandparents have owned one of the beach front properties since the 1970s. I grew up at that beach. When I was in high school none of my friends even knew about Cape Kiwanda. Now EVERYONE and their cousin knows about it. The beach has essentially been ruined by WAY too many tourists than the beach can handle. In the early 2000s there would maybe be a handful Yes of cars on the beach on the weekends, that was no problem. Now, on ANY nice weekend there are dozens and dozens and dozens of cars FLOODING the beach. Walking down to see the tidepools is so stressful when there are so many cars. You have to have your head on a swivel because the people drive their cars SO irresponsibly. I seriously fear for my kids safety. Now, since Covid, there haven't been any cars allowed on the beach and it's been so amazing! I can take my kids down to the water and not have to worry about some jerk driving 40 mph past us. It's a dream come true. Why do some beaches in Oregon allow cars and some don't? That doesn't seem fair. They shouldn't allow cars on ANY 875 of the Oregon beaches. We have a major highway system now, we don't need cars on the beaches. 876 No tdm mcP ck pct

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 87 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow Vehicles have been driving on the beach in Pacific City for a very long time. Not allowing parking on the beaches this summer was a complete disaster that created extremely unsafe conditions along Kiwanda Drive all the way from the Turnaround to McPhillips on many weekends and holidays.

No There has been an increase in tourism in the area and steps need to be taken to manage it, but that does not mean that this historic use should be eliminated. The County tourism board and heavy marketing by local businesses have created the situation. Additional parking, implementation of parking fees, and parking and traffic enforcement are 877 tdm mcP ck pct needed to manage the congestion in the area. 878 No tdm mcP ck pct If you take away recreation at our beaches your local businesses will suffer. 879 No tdm mcP pct 880 No tdm mcP ck pct Life long Oregon and Tillamook tradition. Keep the beaches open! 881 No tdm mcP ck pct

The Pacific City area will continually be under pressure because of people traveling from inland areas. During the pandemic, having the beach and Cape Kiwanda Drive closed has been an enforcement failure. The lack of parking has made living in PC miserable and on-street parking is dangerous for pedestrians. Controlled parking at all beaches will No disperse the crowds and reduce the need for on street parking. Allowing parking for boats only is giving exclusive use to a single user group. This is against the spirit of the Oregon Beach Bill. 882 tdm mcP ck pct What authority does the county have for limiting access at McPhillips? This is inside a Oregon State Natural Area. Access should be stopped during certain parts of the year as follows: > Tierra del Mar - close access from October 1 thru April 1 > McPhillips Drive - close access from October 1 thru April 1 No > Cape Kiwanda Parking Lot - close access from March 15 thru October 15 > - Turnaround - Allow year round, and address pedestrian safety by building a set of steps on the north side of the due 883 tdm mcP ck pct and require use by all pedestrians. Leaving the rest of the "opening" for vehicle access If allowed, I would like to see more cleanup facilities to accommodate the garbage brought. More presence of law 884 Yes tdm mcP enforcement to cite illegal dumping and other crimes committed. 885 No tdm mcP ck pct Not at Cape Kiwanda except for doryboat fishers trailers with Oregon registered boat on trailer or in the ocean. Give Yes permits to guide services that are licensed in Oregon if launching at the Cape. Shuttle other users from parking lots to 886 tdm mcP beach. Adjust day use fees to cover shuttle. 887 No ck It’s something that’s unique to come to the beach in Oregon. Everyone goes for the reason that you can be in your car 888 No tdm mcP ck pct out on the sand enjoying the view. 889 No tdm mcP ck pct 890 No tdm pct Could you at least allow beach access to driving in non tourist months

Beach Access Survey-October 5-20, 2020 Page 88 of 89 YES= ID Prohibit tdm mcP ck pct Other Please share your thoughts about allowing vehicles on the beach. NO=Allow and his family built a home here in Tierra Del Mar.

Gradually, our community has become a vacation destination spot. Tillamook County started advertising "come to the coast" which is fine. It does help our local businesses but there was no preparations made for the influx of so many people. With COVID-19 our community was basically shut down which included parks, beaches and parking. Pacific City closed basically all parking areas which pushed a massive amount of people to Tierra Del Mar and other areas which caused a dangerous traffic issue on Sandlake road because our beach access remained closed. People have parked in our driveway and just walked to the beach. I walked out my front door and found a couple in their car having relations in my neighbors driveway. I watch people use other peoples water or trash cans. They dump trash, disrespect my community and home.

The beach is classified as a highway which should be open to everyone. I do not feel the county should close our beach access to motor vehicles. In Tierra Del Mar we have a time frame where we are not allowed to drive down the beach in front of the houses which I am all for but I do not think the rest of the beach should be closed off to vehicles. I have found that you cannot stop people from littering but the people who park on the beach to have a picnic or play are more No apt to pick up their trash when they leave.

A lot of locals "Tillamook County Residents" and people with disabilities drive onto the beach because that is the only way they can get to the water, watch a sunset or even just see the north side of the cape. I drive on the beach because I enjoy it and it calms my mind. My husband taught both my girls how to drive using the beach when they got their permits. It was a safe wide open area for them to learn the dangers of a vehicle, how to control a vehicle and park in a draw out box in the sand. My husband and I have had many dates meeting on McPhillips beach to watch the sunset in our truck. I love to park my vehicle and just sit in our natural surroundings because we are blessed being able to live here.

I understand that Pacific City has problems with people parking in general on and off the beach but this problem came with advertising "come to the beach in Tillamook County". I live in Tierra Del Mar, Cloverdale, OR. and this is my home where we are allowed to drive onto the beach through Tierra Del Mar access and McPhillips access. I don't want the county commissioners to take this away from our small community. We did not create the parking situation in Pacific City or Cape Kiwanda. Pacific City should deal with their parking problems and have a plan on how to handle 891 tdm mcP ck pct so many people coming there

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