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Thursday Volume 556 17 January 2013 No. 98 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 17 January 2013 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2013 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 1003 17 JANUARY 2013 1004 ensure that there is a purchase of new rolling stock House of Commons soon, do I assist my constituents if at the same time on their behalf I ask him to peg fares, or even reduce them? Thursday 17 January 2013 Mr McLoughlin: I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. I met him this week and he made the case very The House met at half-past Nine o’clock strongly for extra and faster capacity for his constituents in the feed-in to Liverpool Street. He highlights the exact dilemma: people want extra investment and it has PRAYERS to be paid for. The Government are prepared to subsidise the railways and are doing so, but the passenger also has to pay for extra capacity and new trains. [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Lab/ BUSINESS BEFORE QUESTIONS Co-op): Many of my constituents, whether they are using local or cross-border services on the west coast LONDON LOCAL AUTHORITIES AND TRANSPORT FOR main line, are frequently confused by the times at which LONDON (NO.2)BILL [LORDS] they can use their tickets. Would it not be a sensible step Motion made, That the Bill be now considered. to print on the tickets the precise time when they can be used, so that we end confusion and people do not end up paying fines. Hon. Members: Object. Bill to be considered on Thursday 24 January. Mr McLoughlin: In some cases, those times are printed on pre-booked tickets. We are conducting a fares review, and I would like to see a much simpler ticket operating system so that people understand the fares they are Oral Answers to Questions being charged. The review is due to report in May, and that is one of the points I am looking at. TRANSPORT Sir Roger Gale (North Thanet) (Con): The franchise agreement imposed by the previous Labour Government The Secretary of State was asked— has meant that my constituents travelling from North Rail Fares Thanet have faced year-on-year increases way and above the average level. It now costs a huge sum of money to 1. Heidi Alexander (Lewisham East) (Lab): What the travel to London from Kent. It is an appalling service. maximum regulated rail fare rise was in January 2013. Will my right hon. Friend seek to ensure that Railtrack [137492] and Southeastern now deliver what my constituents are paying for? The Secretary of State for Transport (Mr Patrick McLoughlin): The average increase in regulated fares Mr McLoughlin: I have met with my hon. Friend to was 4.2%. An extremely small number of fares will have discuss the service in his constituency and in the rest of risen by 9.2%, but those will have been offset by reductions Kent. He has made a number of points that I will be elsewhere. The “5% flex” policy was introduced by the discussing with Network Rail in due course. previous Government. Lilian Greenwood (Nottingham South) (Lab): Very Heidi Alexander: Commuters using Hither Green straightforward: will the Secretary of State categorically station in my constituency have seen their annual season rule out “super peak” fares? A simple answer will do: ticket rise in the past two years from £856 to £944, yet yesorno. overcrowding on routes into London remains horrendous. What guarantee can the Secretary of State give my Mr McLoughlin: As I said, the Department is constituents that this time next year overcrowding will undertaking a review of fares. That is not to look at a be less and that there will not be huge profits going to way of making fares more expensive, but to ensure that train operating companies? people understand how fares are delivered. Mr McLoughlin: One of the problems we face is that South West Rail Network (Flood Resilience) there is a huge demand and we have seen huge increases in the number of people using the railways. Matching 2. Mr Ben Bradshaw (Exeter) (Lab): What discussions that, the Government are pulling in huge investment. he has had with Network Rail on improving the flood We have set out our plans for 2014 to 2019, as has resilience of the south-west rail network. [137493] Network Rail, which published its plans last week. I understand the concerns of the hon. Lady’s constituents, The Secretary of State for Transport (Mr Patrick but I have to say that a lot of work needs to be done on McLoughlin): I had a number of conversations with investment. Network Rail throughout December about improving the flood resilience of the south-west rail network. I Sir Alan Haselhurst (Saffron Walden) (Con): If I am also visited works on the west coast main line on new pressing my right hon. Friend, as indeed I am, to invest year’s eve, where I was able to discuss the issue in person more in track capacity on the West Anglia line and to with David Higgins, Network Rail’s chief executive. 1005 Oral Answers17 JANUARY 2013 Oral Answers 1006 Mr Bradshaw: I thank the Secretary of State for that Mr Crausby: I come from the world of industrial reply. Between the end of November and the end of manufacturing, where incompetent mistakes get someone December, Devon and Cornwall were effectively cut off the sack. It occurs to me that in this Government no from the rest of the country by rail for two periods one gets the blame, while hard-working, travelling members lasting more than a week each. That is not acceptable of the public pay the price for the mistake through for rail travellers or our economy. Will he impress on higher rail fares. Will the Secretary of State tell me Network Rail the absolutely urgency of tackling the exactly which Minister, if any, will take responsibility problem at Cowley bridge in Exeter, which is the cause for his Government’s humiliation in this affair? of most of the problems? Mr McLoughlin: I think I have been very open with Mr McLoughlin: The situation that people in the the House. I have made two or three statements to it south-west faced over that period was unacceptable. It about the incident involving the west coast main line, was the result of weather that we do not see often. I and I have commissioned two reports that have broadly have talked to many Members who have made been welcomed, I think, by the House. Both those who representations to me on that, and I have asked Network wrote the reports have given evidence to the Transport Rail to give a briefing to Members from those areas. Committee, during which, Sam Laidlaw, who wrote the That will take place in early February, and I hope that report on what went wrong in the Department, said that the right hon. Gentleman will attend. Ministers were not made aware. Neil Parish (Tiverton and Honiton) (Con): Further Charlie Elphicke (Dover) (Con): I thank the Secretary to the point by the right hon. Member for Exeter of State for being so open with the House about this (Mr Bradshaw), the Tiverton to Exeter line is extremely matter. It is an issue not just about the cost to the public low and will be affected by flooding not only this year, purse, but about the potential for franchises to be but in future years. A substantial job needs to be done delayed. In my constituency in Deal, we want a hard-won on that particular track of rail, so I urge the Secretary commuting high-speed service to be made an all-day of State to do as much as he can to get Network Rail to high-speed service. Will he tell us what the impact of the put a package in place. delay might be? Mr McLoughlin: I accept what my hon. Friend says and I hope that he will come to the meeting I am Mr McLoughlin: As I said, two reports were conducted, organising with Network Rail, which I will also attend. one by Sam Laidlaw and the other by Richard Brown. I I am trying to break it into regions in the parts of the published the latter last week, and in the near future will area served so that Members can discuss their concerns make a statement to the House about how I intend to directly with Network Rail. implement Mr Brown’s recommendations. Mr Adrian Sanders (Torbay) (LD): There are two Mr Speaker: As the Clerk has very originally observed, other important areas within the south-west that raise the Secretary of State has brought the matter back on potential problems for the resilience of rail services. track. We are grateful to him. One is the rail line between Exeter and Honiton, which also floods, but most crucially there is the coastal route Maria Eagle (Garston and Halewood) (Lab): The between Exeter and Newton Abbot, which for decades Laidlaw report is clear about where the blame lies for has required a great deal of maintenance. We want the west coast franchise fiasco—it was Ministers who certainty about the future of the resilience of our rail decided to carry out a botched reorganisation of the services in the south-west.