BASE BALL, TRAP SHOOTING AND GENERAL SPORTS ___________________________________Tltla Keglstared In U. 8. Patent Offlce. Cojorriglrt, 1909, by The Sporting Life Publishta* Company. Vol. 54-No. 11 Philadelphia, November 20, 1909 Price 5 Cents PLAYER The Case of Player (f Necessary Sales Torrey Affords an System in Base Illuminating Ex Ball May Be Sub ample of Abuses jected by Money- to Which the Seeking Magnates INOINNATI, Ohio, November 15. The National Commissioner recent legal as far as I know. The oddest thing ly ordered the Springfield Club, about Kinsella©s alleged purchase of Torrey of the Indiana-Illinois-Iowa is that he then sold the player to the New League, to strike the name of .York Club for $4,000 without ever having Player W. A. Torrey from its re seen the man. Our friend Kinsella is a good serve list, and also cancel the sale of that business man, but a punk base ball magnate player by the Springfield Club to the New if he thinks this kind of ©brokerage busi Yorlf National League Club, on the ground ness© goes. We are going to keep our eyes that said player was under contract with the on his deals from this time on and if he Logan Square Club, of Chicago, for the sea turns any more such tricks as the Torrey af son of 1909, and ineligible for the list of fair we will at least try to show him where players in "organized ball." In the state he is wrong. Then maybe we can do more.©*1 ment of the Commission dealing with the case CINCINNATI©S CLAIM CLEAR. it is also brought out that Torrey last April Mr. Herrmann continued: "There never was signed with the Cincinnati Club. At the has been a case before the National Com recent National Association meeting in Mem mission in which a clearer title was estab phis President Robert Kinsella, of the Spring lished to a player than that of the Reds to field Club, showed Torrey. We have not only the various con THE REPORTED CONTRACT tracts entered into by Torrey to substantiate of Torrey with the Springfield team and our claim, but we have affidavits that further «aid: "This contract is dated November, strengthen our case, so that there seems to be no way that we can lose the man. The 1908, long before the Logan Squares got hold of the player. I will never stand for Cincinnati Club in the case of Torrey, as such a deal as that. When I signed this boy in its acquisition of Dick Hoblitzell, made a thorough investigation of all the conditions the Logan Squares were not under protec tion, being considered as an outlaw organi surrounding the status of the player before zation. Last summer, through some question he was signed. When we went after him we of policy, they were admitted to protection, felt certain that we had a right to acquire but that does not give them the right to sell him, and nothing has come up since that time a player belonging to me. The decision of, to cause us to feel that we have been in th« wrong. Torrey now is oa our reserve list, the Commission was a most unjust one, and I shall fight it in the United States Courts if and I have no doubt that he will remain ther» it refuses me a rehearing. The Commission as long as we want him." intercepted the check sent to me by the New York Club, and I will have a strong case JOHN O©CONNOR, CINCINNATI©S CLUB. against it by reason of that action. I am ab Manager of the St. Louis American League Club. solutely certain that I am right in this case, Re-Elects Its Officers and Lets Out Some The veteran catcher. Jack O©Connor, has been appointed manager of the St. Louis American and you can put it down that Torrey will not league team, in succession to Jimmy McAleer, who has signed to manage the Washington Young Players. play in Cincinnati next year." team next year. O©Connor is a veteran player of ability and experience, who knows the game Cincinnati, Ohio, November 15. The an- CHAIRMAN HERRMANN©S VIEW. well and who has done good work for the American League in various ways ever since its expansion. O©Connor was bom in St. Louis 36 years ago. His first engagement as a profes nuitl meeting of the stockholders of the Cin In commenting upon Mr. Kinsella©s state sional player was with St. Joseph in 1886. The following year he played with the Cincinnati cinnati Club was held at the Havlin Hotel ment Chairman Herrmann, of the National American Association team. In 1889-90 he played with the Columbus team, also of the last Friday afternoon, with a fair attendance. American Association. In 1891 he played with Denver and from that team went to Cleveland, Commission said to-day: "This case is very where he played for seven years. He was transferred to St. Louis along with the rest of the The reports of President Herrmann and simple, arid,our friend Kinsella has no show Cleveland team and played there until 1901, when the Pimburg Club purchased his release. Treasurer Max Fleischman were read and whatever of getting Torrey away from the In the Fall of 1902 he jumped in the New York American League Club, with which he approved. The owners were thoroughly sat /^Cincinnati Club. He tried to coax Torrey played during 1903. after which lie \«fts released to the St. Louis American League Club. He played with that team until 1908. the last two years of this term being principally used as isfied with the showing made by the club dur away from the Logan Squares and succeeded coach for the pitchers and scout for playing talent. In the Spring of 1909 he was loaned to ing the year, as was evidenced when they re- in inducing him to sign a Springfield con the Little Bock Club, of the Southern League, and played the better part of the season with elected the old Board of Directors, including tract. Jimmy Callahan, to whose club he that club until recalled in the Fall by President Hedges to take up the managerial reins President Herrmann, Julius and Max Fleisch- was under contract, however, induced Tor dropped by McAleer. mann, Caspar Rowe and Thomas Cogftn. There rey not to go to Springfield and the young was some talk of improvements at the grounds ster finished the season with Callahan©s club. and the lease will be renewed for a term of When the matter was brought to the atten 10 additional years, but no further important tion of the Commission it was agreed that he ! Behle picked up a high school boy for the player signed a contract and then jumped to business was transacted. The club has just was the property of the Logan Squares and j Shamrocks and signed him to a semi-profes some/ minor league club before it expired. purchased Pitcher George Suggs from the Kinsella had sional contract. Would it be fair to the That again Mobile Club and has sold four players to minor league clubs with the privilege of re VIOLATED A BASE BALL LAW player if Behle had the right to sell him to WOULD BE UNFAIR, when he induced Torrey to break with Cal purchasing them. Catcher Pauxtis goes to a minor league club without securing his and so we think the rule a good one. I no Rock Island, Outfielder Patterson to For lahan. The ruling of the Commission serves consent? Of course it wouldn©t, and that tice that Kinsella claims he has purchased to protect both the semi-professional players Wayne, Pitcher Carmichael to Buffalo t was one reason the ruling, which covers that two other players from semi-professional clubs Pitcher Ashley to Topeka. Pitcher Ke «nd clubs. Suppose, for instance, that Frank point, was passed. Suppose, again, that a in Chicago. Neither of these purchases is has been returned to the Quincy (111.) Cl\j SRORTUXQ NOVEMBER 20, 1909 National Association; the story of the Rise, long established Camden institution go the way of all Progress and Death of the ojd American Asso PHILADELPHIA POINTS. things in that dead town. TEBEAU TIPS ciation; and the record of the World©s Cham During the past week the Athletics played four pionship Series from 1884 to the present games with the Pacific Coast League champions at year in short, a complete history of all that No Change in the Status of the Local Clubs San Francisco with this result: November 11, Ath is really worth while knowing of the origin, The Inactivity of the Philadelphia Club letics 1, San Francisco 1, 12 innings. Coombs against rise and progress of our National game. The Prowning; November 12, Athletics 7, San Francisco book should be on sale at all news-stands at Due to Unavoidable Conditions The 1, Bender against Henley; November 14 (A. M.), ten (10) cents the copy. If your newsdealer Athletics 2, San Francisco 1, Coombs against Willis; cannot supply you, send 10 cents (coin or Case of Manager Murray. November 14 (P. M.), Athletics 3, San .Francisco 1, stamps) to this office and copy will _be sent Krause and Plank against Browning. you by next mail. By Francis C. Eichter. ———;______:——»__________ Philadelphia, Pa., November 15. There is The Associated Magnate Has Three still no news of importance regarding either NO PERMANENT PEACE. local club. So far as the Athletic Club is concerned that doesn©t matter The Washington Team to Train at Norfolk Suggestions to Offer to the Joint Walter McCredie Still Distrustful of the as the club©s policy is well settled, the management is More About the Plans of Manager Rules Committee for the Promo California League.