September 14, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — SENATE S 13619 Canadair to replace its Brası´lia makes a 50-seat turboprop, the Dash 8. ‘‘But dollars? While you are thinking about planes on the Salt Lake City-Boise run. Turboprop and jet technology were born in it, bear in mind that it was the U.S. Thirty-one Canadair Regional jets currently the same time frame, around the time of Congress that ran up the Federal debt operate in the United States. World War II.’’ that now exceeds $4.9 trillion. That’s not all. Earlier this summer two Whatever the manufacturers say, pas- 70’s a new Dutch jet with 79 seats, sengers recognize a clear difference. On a To be exact, as of the close of busi- began service for America West Express, a flight from Rochester to Cincinnati, a ness yesterday, September 13, the total unit of Mesa Air Group. They provide non- Canadair operated by Comair, Federal debt—down to the penny— stop service from Phoenix to Des Moines and another Delta commuter affiliate, was excep- stood at $4,967,410,712,825.60, of which, to Spokane, Wash., both long, thinly used tionally quiet and smooth, taking off quick- on a per capita basis, every man, markets that previously required at least ly and flying above the turbulence. But the woman and child in America owes one stop. Also flying in the United States are seats in junior jets do not vary that much in $18,856.78. 16 four-engine BAe-146 jets appearance and comfort from those typically Mr. President, back to our pop quiz, and a few newer models of the same plane. found in most . Fokker is a unit of Daimler-Benz A.G. The main reason more do not rely how many million in a trillion: There And at least one American plane maker, on junior jets is because they are much more are a million million in a trillion. McDonnell Douglas, is trying to develop a expensive to buy than turboprops. And even f shorter version of its smooth-flying MD-80. though they hold more seats, that’s still a It has not yet decided whether to go ahead real burden, particularly for commuter oper- MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE with construction. ators without a lot of extra investment cap- At 2:58 p.m., a message from the Over the next 20 years airlines worldwide ital that are operating on paper-thin mar- House of Representatives, delivered by are expected to buy as many as 1,500 jets gins. The new regional jet, for ex- that carry fewer than 100 passengers, said ample, will cost nearly double the $7.7 mil- Ms. Goetz, one of its reading clerks, an- Barbara Beyer, president of Avmark, an air- lion price of its Brasilia turboprop. A nounced that the House disagrees to line industry consulting firm in Arlington, Canadair Regional jet costs even more—$17 the amendment of the Senate to the Va. million to $22 million a copy. bill (H.R. 2126) making appropriations Still, the turboprop is not about to dis- But the new Brazilian operating costs are for the Department of Defense for the appear. Bombardier, the Canadian plane expected to be comparable. Its new regional fiscal year ending September 30, 1996, maker, estimates that between 1993 and 2012 jet, Embraer says, should cost about $27 an airlines worldwide will spend $91 billion to and for other purposes, and agrees to hour per seat to fly, compared with $29 per the conference asked by the Senate on buy 8,107 regional with 15 to 90 seats. hour for a Brasilia. And some airlines think Most of these planes will be low-cost the investment is worthwhile, in part be- the disagreeing votes of the two Houses turboprops with 40 of more seats. in- cause jets fly much faster than turboprops, thereon; and appoints Mr. YOUNG of dustry experts say that turboprops will con- allowing more flights each day. Delta Con- Florida, Mr. MCDADE, Mr. LIVINGSTON, tinue to serve as the backbone of flights be- nection flights on a turboprop be- Mr. LEWIS of California, Mr. SKEEN, Mr. tween small- and medium-sized cities like tween Rochester and La Guardia Airport in HOBSON, Mr. BONILLA, Mr. NETHERCUTT, Concord, N.H., and Syracuse and nearby New York City are scheduled for 85 minutes, Mr. NEUMANN, Mr. MURTHA, Mr. DICKS, major airports, such as Boston and New compared with USAir’s 64 minutes via a 737 Mr. WILSON, Mr. HEFNER, Mr. SABO, and York. jet, adding about one-third to the gate-to- Mr. OBEY as the managers of the con- For an increasing number of lucky fliers, gate time. though, the junior jets will provide a lot Jets can also cruise higher, which means ference on the part of the House. more speed and some added comfort over fewer cups of coffee ending up in passenger The message also announced that the turboprops. And for thousands of others, laps. ‘‘You can fly up quickly and get above House has passed the following bills, in there is the prospect of an end to the time- the weather, which is especially attractive which it requests the concurrence of wasting change of planes. during thunderstorm season,’’ said David A. the Senate: ‘‘After two hours a turboprop is a real Siebenburgen, president of Comair Holdings, H.R. 1162. An act to establish a Deficit Re- pain,’’ Miss Beyer said, ‘‘Essentially there the in Cincinnati that intro- are two kinds of markets that can be served duction Trust Fund and provide for the duced the Canadair Regional Jet into serv- downward adjustment of discretionary by regional jets. Those that are more than ice. ‘‘Our customers love them.’’ 400 miles apart, but are not large enough to spending limits in appropriation bills. Comair operates 64 turboprops and 23 H.R. 1594. An act to place restrictions on command larger jet equipment. And those Canadair Regional jets, but within five years markets that have been abandoned by the the promotion by the Department of Labor the company expects to operate fewer than and other Federal agencies and instrumen- major carriers since deregulation of the air- 50 turboprops and at least 70 Canadair Re- lines—markets that had been jet markets talities of economically targeted invest- gional jets, Mr. Siebenburgen said. ments in connection with employee benefit and should be jet markets.’’ And even though the carrying costs are For years, the big United States aircraft plans. higher, SkyWest, based in Salt Lake City, H.R. 1655. An act to authorize appropria- manufacturers—Boeing and McDonnell sees advantages in the eight Canadair Re- Douglas—resisted building smaller jets, ar- tions for fiscal year 1996 for intelligence and gional Jets, all leased, that it now flies. intelligence-related activities of the United guing that the development costs would be ‘‘The reason we feel comfortable with the too high to justify the expense of building States Government, the Community Man- risk,’’ said Bradford R. Rich, SkyWest’s chief agement Account, and the Central Intel- jets that would inevitably sell for much less financial officer, ‘‘is that the plane fits into than their bigger bread-and-butter jet air- ligence Agency Retirement and Disability the longer, thinner markets we have. We be- System, and for other purposes. craft. lieve it can expand our market area because ‘‘Then we hounded Canadair with the idea of the high speed and comfort.’’ f that they ought to turn their Challenger As far as Canadair’s new Brazilian com- MEASURES REFERRED into a regional ,’’ Miss petitor goes, it already has 18 firm orders for Beyer said. ‘‘And ultimately they did and its regional jet, five of them from BWIA, a The following bills were read the first now it is an absolute raving success.’’ Caribbean airline. Embraer also says it has While off to a good start, it remains to be and second times by unanimous con- 16 options and 127 letters of intent. sent and referred as indicated: seen just how successful the Canadair will So far, however, no airline in the United H.R. 1162. An act to establish a Deficit Re- be. Bombardier has delivered 65 such States has ordered an EMB–145. But Michael duction Trust Fund and provide for the Canadair jets and has orders for 37 more. It Warwicke, Embraer’s vice president for downward adjustment of discretionary says it plans to bring out a lengthened ver- sales, is counting on a few orders to roll in spending limits in appropriation bills; re- sion that can carry 75 passengers. once the airplane completes flight-worthi- Aircraft makers readily acknowledge that ferred jointly, pursuant to the order of Au- ness testing. Long-suffering prop-jet pas- most passengers do not like turboprops, not gust 4, 1977, to the Committee on the Budget, sengers may want to start counting the days. just because of their noisy vibrations and and to the Committee on Governmental Af- cramped space, but also because they appear f fairs. outdated and less safe. And the crash last H.R. 1594. An act to place restrictions on October of a French-made ATR turboprop THE BAD DEBT BOXSCORE the promotion by the Department of Labor plane, which led the Federal Ad- Mr. HELMS. Mr. President, before and other Federal agencies and instrumen- ministration to ban the planes temporarily discussing today’s bad news about the talities of economically targeted invest- from flying in icy weather, only added to the Federal debt, how about ‘‘another go’’, ments in connection with employee benefit safety fears surrounding turboprops. But the plans; to the Committee on Labor and manufacturers insist that view is misguided. as the British put it, with our pop quiz. Human Resources. ‘‘People tend to look at propellers and Remember? One question, one answer. H.R. 1655. An act to authorize appropria- think old-fashioned,’’ said Colin Fisher, a The question: How many millions of tions for fiscal year 1996 for intelligence and spokesman for Bombardier, which also dollars does it take to add up a trillion intelligence-related activities of the United S 13620 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — SENATE September 14, 1995 States Government, the Community Man- and Budget, Executive Office of the Presi- By Mr. BRADLEY: agement Account, and the Central Intel- dent, transmitting, pursuant to law, a report S. 1242. A bill to authorize the National In- ligence Agency Retirement and Disability entitled ‘‘Statistical Programs of the United stitute of Justice to provide technical assist- System, and for other purposes; to the Select States Government″; to the Committee on ance to State and local law enforcement en- Committee on Intelligence. Governmental Affairs. tities, and for other purposes; to the Com- f EC–1435. A communication from the Comp- mittee on the Judiciary. troller General of the General Accounting By Mr. SPECTER (for himself, Mr. EXECUTIVE AND OTHER Office, transmitting, pursuant to law, notice KOHL, Mr. GRASSLEY, Mr. LEAHY, and COMMUNICATIONS of reports and testimony for the month of Mrs. FEINSTEIN): July, 1995; to the Committee on Govern- S. 1243. A bill to provide educational assist- The following communications were mental Affairs. ance to the dependents of Federal law en- laid before the Senate, together with EC–1436. A communication from the Chair- forcement officials who are killed or disabled accompanying papers, reports, and doc- man of the Council of the District of Colum- in the performance of their duties; to the uments, which were referred as indi- bia, transmitting, pursuant to law, copies of Committee on the Judiciary. cated: D.C. Act 11-134, enacted by the Council on f EC–1423. A communication from the Assist- July 29, 1995; to the Committee on Govern- ant Secretary for Communications and Infor- mental Affairs. STATEMENTS ON INTRODUCED EC–1437. A communication from the Chair- mation, the Department of Commerce, trans- BILLS AND JOINT RESOLUTIONS man of the Council of the District of Colum- mitting, the report of the Public Tele- bia, transmitting, pursuant to law, copies of By Mr. INOUYE: communications Facilities Program grants D.C. Act 11-135, enacted by the Council on S. 1240. A bill to provide for a special for fiscal year 1995; to the Committee on July 29, 1995; to the Committee on Govern- application of section 1034 of the Inter- Commerce, Science, and Transportation. EC–1424. A communication from the Ad- mental Affairs. nal Revenue Code of 1986; to the Com- ministrator of the General Services Adminis- EC–1438. A communication from the Chair- mittee on Finance. man of the Council of the District of Colum- tration, transmitting, pursuant to law, the SPECIAL APPLICATION LEGISLATION report of three contracts for design-build bia, transmitting, pursuant to law, copies of ∑ Mr. INOUYE. Mr. President, I ask D.C. Act 11-136, enacted by the Council on construction services on behalf of the Inter- unanimous consent that the text of the nal Revenue Service; to the Committee on July 29, 1995; to the Committee on Govern- mental Affairs. bill be printed in the RECORD. Environment and Public Works. There being no objection, the bill was EC–1425. A communication from the Ad- EC–1439. A communication from the Chair- ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as ministrator of the General Services Adminis- man of the Council of the District of Colum- tration, transmitting, pursuant to law, the bia, transmitting, pursuant to law, copies of follows: report of a building project survey for Okla- D.C. Act 11-139, enacted by the Council on S. 1240 homa City, Oklahoma; to the Committee on July 29, 1995; to the Committee on Govern- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- Environment and Public Works. mental Affairs. resentatives of the United States of America in EC–1440. A communication from the Assist- EC–1426. A communication from the Ad- Congress assembled, That, in the case of Rita ant Secretary of the Interior for Indian Af- ministrator of the General Services Adminis- Bennington— tration, transmitting, a draft of proposed fairs, transmitting, pursuant to law, the re- (1) who purchased her new principal resi- legislation entitled ‘‘Emergency Leasing Act port of the Plan for the Use and Distribution dence (within the meaning of section 1034 of of 1995″; to the Committee on Environment of the Funds Awarded the La Jolla Band of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986) in Janu- and Public Works. Mission Indians; to the Committee on Indian ary 1992, and EC–1427. A communication from the Ad- Affairs. (2) who was unable to meet the require- ministrator of the General Services Adminis- f ments of such section with respect to the tration, transmitting, a draft of proposed sale of an old principal residence until May legislation entitled ‘‘Prospectus Threshold REPORTS OF COMMITTEES 1994, because of unexpected delays caused by Increase Act of 1995″; to the Committee on The following reports of committees Hurricane Iniki, the Secretary of the Treas- Environment and Public Works. were submitted: ury, in the administration of section 1034 of EC–1428. A communication from the Assist- the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, shall ant Legal Affairs Adviser for Treaty Affairs, By Mr. HATFIELD, from the Committee apply subsection (a) of such section by sub- the Department of State, transmitting, pur- on Appropriations: stituting ‘‘2.5 years’’ for ‘‘2 years’’ each place Special Report entitled ‘‘Revised Alloca- suant to law, the text of the international it appears.∑ tion to Subcommittees of Budget Totals agreements, other than treaties, and back- from the Concurrent Resolution for Fiscal ground statements; to the Committee on By Mr. EXON: Year 1996’’ (Rept. No. 104–141). Foreign Relations. S. 1241. A bill entitled the ‘‘Public By Mr. COCHRAN, from the Committee on EC–1429. A communication from the Assist- Appropriations, with amendments: Broadcasting Financial Independence ant Secretary of State for Legislative Af- H.R. 1976. A bill making appropriations for and Family Viewing Act of 1995’’; to fairs, transmitting, pursuant to law, notice Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and the Committee on Commerce, Science, of a Presidential determination relative to Drug Administration, and Related Agencies the International Organizations and Pro- and Transportation. programs for the fiscal year ending Septem- grams Account Funds; to the Committee on THE PUBLIC BROADCASTING FINANCIAL ber 30, 1996, and for other purposes (Rept. No. Foreign Relations. INDEPENDENCE AND FAMILY VIEWING ACT OF 1995 EC–1430. A communication from the Assist- 104–142). ∑ Mr. EXON. Mr. President, as Gov- By Mr. MCCONNELL, from the Committee ant Legal Affairs Adviser for Treaty Affairs, on Appropriations, with amendments: ernor and Senator, I have been a long the Department of State, transmitting, pur- H.R. 1868. A bill making appropriations for time supporter of public broadcasting. suant to law, the text of the international foreign operations, export financing, and re- In Nebraska, public broadcasting leads agreements, other than treaties, and back- lated programs for the fiscal year ending the way in innovative programming, ground statements; to the Committee on September 30, 1996, and for other purposes Foreign Relations. distance learning, and educational op- (Rept. No. 104–143). EC–1431. A communication from the Assist- portunity. That dedication to excel- ant Secretary of State for Legislative Af- f lence, to children and to families has fairs, transmitting, corrections to the text of made Nebraska Public Television an is- INTRODUCTION OF BILLS AND the Convention Between the Government of land of decency, sanity, and enrich- JOINT RESOLUTIONS the United States of America and the Gov- ment in the sea of violence, sex, and ernment of the Republic of Kazakhstan; to The following bills and joint resolu- immorality which is commercial tele- the Committee on Foreign Relations. tions were introduced, read the first EC–1432. A communication from the Presi- vision. dent of the United States, transmitting, pur- and second time by unanimous con- I am pleased to introduce legislation suant to law, the report on the cost for oper- sent, and referred as indicated: titled the Public Broadcasting Finan- ations and assistance to Haiti for the period By Mr. INOUYE: cial Independence and Family Viewing October 1, 1993 to March 31, 1995; to the Com- S. 1240. A bill to provide for a special appli- Act. mittee on Foreign Relations. cation of section 1034 of the Internal Reve- Opponents of public broadcasting EC–1433. A communication from the Presi- nue Code of 1986; to the Committee on Fi- have sparked a debate about the future dent of the United States, transmitting, pur- nance. on this national treasure. That debate By Mr. EXON: suant to law, the report of an alternate plan has been healthy and ironically could for Federal pay adjustments; to the Commit- S. 1241. A bill entitled the ‘‘Public Broad- tee on Governmental Affairs. casting Financial Independence and Family lead to the salvation of public broad- EC–1434. A communication from the from Viewing Act of 1995″; to the Committee on casting. As a member of both the Sen- the Director of the Office of Management Commerce, Science, and Transportation. ate Commerce Committee, and the