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Page | 891 Page | 892 IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION UNDER THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC-CENTRAL AMERICA-UNITED STATES FREE TRADE ALSO PRESENT: AGREEMENT, SIGNED ON AUGUST 5, 2004 ("CAFTA-DR") MR. JULIAN BORDAÇAHAR AND Secretary to the Tribunal UNDER THE UNCITRAL ARBITRATION RULES Court Reporters: (AS ADOPTED IN 2013) (the "UNCITRAL Rules") MS. MARGIE DAUSTER Registered Merit Reporter (RMR) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -x Certified Realtime Reporter (CRR) : B&B Reporters In the Matter of Arbitration Between: : 529 14th Street, S.E. : Washington, D.C. 20003 MICHAEL BALLANTINE, LISA BALLANTINE, : United States of America : PCA Case No. Claimants, : 2016-17 MR. DANTE RINALDI : MR. DIONISIO RINALDI and : D.R. Esteno : Colombres 566 THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, : Buenos Aires 1218ABE : Republic of Argentina Respondent. : : Interpreters: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -x Volume 4 MS. SILVIA COLLA ORAL HEARING MR. DANIEL GIGLIO Thursday, September 6, 2018 The World Bank 1818 H Street, N.W. MC Building Conference Room 4-800 Washington, D.C. The hearing in the above-entitled matter came on, pursuant to notice, at 8:58 a.m. (EDT) before: PROFESSOR RICARDO RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ, Presiding Arbitrator MS. MARNEY L. CHEEK, Co-Arbitrator PROFESSOR RAÚL EMILIO VINUESA, Co-Arbitrator Page | 893 Page | 894 APPEARANCES: APPEARANCES (Continued) Attending on behalf of the Claimants: Attending on behalf of the Respondent: MR. EDWARD "TEDDY" BALDWIN MR. MARCELO SALAZAR MR. MATTHEW ALLISON MS. LEIDYLIN CONTRERAS MS. LARISSA DIAZ MS. RAQUEL DE LA ROSA MS. SHAILA URMI Dirección de Administración de Acuerdos y Baker & McKenzie LLP Tratados Comerciales Internacionales, 815 Connecticut Avenue, N.W. Ministerio de Industria y Comercio Washington, D.C. 20006 MS. PATRICIA ABREU United States of America MR. ENMANUEL ROSARIO MS. ROSA OTERO Claimant Representatives: MS. JOHANNA MONTERO MS. CLAUDIA ADAMES MS. LISA BALLANTINE Ministerio de Medio Ambiente y Recursos Naturales MR. MICHAEL BALLANTINE MR. PAOLO Di ROSA MR. RAÚL R. HERRERA MS. MALLORY SILBERMAN MS. CLAUDIA TAVERAS MS. CRISTINA ARIZMENDI MR. KELBY BALLENA MS. KAILA MILLETT Arnold & Porter, LLP 601 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20001-3743 United States of America Of Counsel: MR. JOSÉ ANTONIO RIVAS CAMPO Page | 895 Page | 896 C O N T E N T S PIETER BOOTH PAGE Direct examination by Mr. Herrera....................1142 PRELIMINARY MATTERS.....................................899 Direct presentation..................................1144 Cross-examination by Mr. Baldwin.....................1160 WITNESSES: Redirect examination by Mr. Herrera..................1166 JAIME DAVID FERNÁNDEZ MIRABAL Direct examination by Ms. Silberman...................901 Cross-examination by Mr. Baldwin......................905 Redirect examination by Ms. Silberman.................928 Questions from the Tribunal...........................929 JOSE ROBERTO HERNÁNDEZ Direct examination by Ms. Silberman...................931 Cross-examination by Mr. Baldwin......................936 Redirect examination by Ms. Silberman................1017 Questions from the Tribunal..........................1020 ELEUTERIO MARTINEZ Direct examination by Mr. Antonio Rivas..............1023 Cross-examination by Mr. Allison.....................1036 Redirect examination by Mr. Antonio Rivas............1085 TIMOTHY HART Direct examination by Mr. Di Rosa....................1091 Direct presentation..................................1092 Cross-examination by Mr. Allison.....................1105 Redirect examination by Mr. Di Rosa..................1114 PETER DEMING Direct examination by Mr. Herrera....................1116 Direct presentation..................................1116 Cross-examination by Mr. Baldwin.....................1129 Redirect examination by Mr. Herrera..................1137 Page | 897 Page | 898 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 1 conscience that I shall speak the truth, the whole truth, 2 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Good morning, 2 and nothing but the truth. 3 Mr. Mirabal. 3 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Thank you very much, 4 THE WITNESS: Good morning. 4 Mr. Mirabal. 5 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Can you hear us? 5 I will now give the floor to counsel for 6 THE WITNESS: I can hear you, yes. 6 Claimants. They're going to ask you a few questions. 7 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Good morning. How 7 THE WITNESS: Very well, Mr. President. 8 are you? 8 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Excuse me. I made a 9 THE WITNESS: Good morning. I'm very well, thank 9 mistake. It is counsel for Respondent who is going to ask 10 you. How are you? 10 a few questions. 11 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: I'm going to ask you 11 MR. BALDWIN: I just want to do a quick point of 12 a very important question. How is your health? 12 order here, if I could, before we start the questions. 13 THE WITNESS: Well, all things considered, I'm 13 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Yes. 14 doing well. One of my vertebrae is squished. 14 MR. BALDWIN: The first is because of the video 15 But--sometimes it's hard to walk, but I'm doing well. 15 conferencing and the way this room is set up, I would ask 16 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: All right. Very 16 that the gentleman be at least one seat away from 17 well. I hope you get better soon. 17 Mr. Mirabal because where he is right now, he can write 18 I know that you do not have the Witness 18 notes and the Minister can see. So, I would just ask if he 19 Declaration there, Mr. Mirabal. But for the record, I 19 could move to another spot. 20 wanted you to confirm that you solemnly declare, upon your 20 And secondly, I don't recognize--that document 21 honor and conscience, that you shall1 speak the truth, the 21 seems to have a picture in front of the Minister, and I 22 whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 22 don't think his Witness Statement is a picture so I'm just 23 THE WITNESS: I do declare upon my honor and 23 curious as to what documents he has there. 24 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Mr. Mirabal, could 1 English Audio Day 4 at 00:05:59 25 you tell us what document it is that you have before you? Realtime Stenographer Worldwide Reporting, LLP Realtime Stenographer Worldwide Reporting, LLP Margie Dauster, RMR-CRR [email protected] Margie Dauster, RMR-CRR [email protected] Page | 899 Page | 900 1 I can't hear you. 1 because I wasn't able to travel because of health reasons2. 2 THE WITNESS: All right. We're going to remove 2 We can now begin. 3 everything. These are my personal papers. 3 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: We completely 4 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Okay. 4 understand. You have nothing to apologize for. We hope 5 (Pause in proceedings.) 5 you get better soon. 6 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: You are fine with 6 Please proceed. 7 the seating now? 7 MS. SILBERMAN: Mr. President, Members of the 8 MR. BALDWIN: Yes. 8 Tribunal, let me present you Jaime David Fernández Mirabal. 9 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: So, we will go right 9 He's a psychiatrist and a doctor. He was also the Vice 10 back to Respondent. 10 President of the Dominican Republic between 1996 and 2000. 11 Mr. Baldwin, we've been told that what you 11 He was the Ministry for the Environment and 12 saw--the picture you saw is an iPad. That is from the 12 Natural Resources between3 '08 and 2011. And on 13 World Bank there. And when he turned it off, that's where 13 25 May 2017, he has submitted a Witness Statement in this 14 everything. So-- 14 arbitration. 15 (Comments off microphone.) 15 JAIME DAVID FERNÁNDEZ MIRABAL, RESPONDENT'S WITNESS, 16 PRESIDENT RAMÍREZ HERNÁNDEZ: Okay. So we are 16 CALLED 17 fine. 17 DIRECT EXAMINATION 18 If you agree, the Parties agree, we're going to 18 BY MS. SILBERMAN: 19 continue as we are right now, and hopefully we'll be able 19 Q. Can you hear us, Mr. Mirabal? 20 to see you later. 20 A. Yes, I can hear you. 21 THE WITNESS: Honorable President, I would like to 21 Q. Do you have any correction that you would like to 22 extend my greetings to you, the co-arbitrators, and to all 22 make of your Statement? 23 of you there present. I would like to present my excuses 2 Original in Spanish adds: “y estar presente como era mi deseo”. 3 Original in Spanish:“ministro del Medio Ambiente y Recursos Naturales entre agosto de 2008 y agosto de 2011”. Realtime Stenographer Worldwide Reporting, LLP Realtime Stenographer Worldwide Reporting, LLP Margie Dauster, RMR-CRR [email protected] Margie Dauster, RMR-CRR [email protected] Page | 901 Page | 902 1 A. None. 1 them to the Minister for their approval or rejection and 2 Q. Do you ratify the contents of your Statement? 2 any other consideration. 3 A. I do. 3 Q. Thank you very much. 4 Q. Could you please describe your professional 4 In the Reply for this arbitration6, the Ballantines 5 background. 5 allege the following at Paragraph 212. And this is a 6 A. Yes. From 1970 to 1974, I did studies on 6 quotation. 7 agricultural technical matters, and then architecture4, in 7 "The story of the cement factory is a typical case 8 the Santo Domingo Institute, then a master's degree in the 8 study of the political influence in the Dominican 9 Complutense University of Madrid on psychology and 9 Republic." 10 psychiatry, medical psychiatry and psychology. 10 MR. BALDWIN: For this part, I don't believe he 11 Then I studied at the University of Trieste on the 11 talked about the cement factory in his Witness Statement, 12 matters of mental health. I have been a doctor here in the 12 so I don't know why counsel is going into it. 13 public health system. 13 MS. SILBERMAN: Mr. President, this is something 14 And then I became a Senator, a national Senator, 14 that the Ballantines alleged postdating the Witness 15 in 1990. And from then on, I have been a politician.