LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

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[Ninth Series, Vol. VII/, Thlfd Session, 199011912 (Saka))

NO.4, Friday, August 10, 1990/Sravana 19, 1912 (Saka)

COLUMNS

Oral Answers to Questions: 2-30

*Starred Question Nos. 61,62.64. 66 to 6B

Written answers to Questions: 31-424

Starred Question Nos. 63,65.69 to BO 31-47

Unstarred Question Nos. 705 to 716.718 to 728. 47-389 730 to 740,742 to 750, 752 to 795. 797 to 823, 825 to 837, 839 to 841. 843 to 848, 850 to 900, and 902 to 937

Papers Laid on the Table 425-432

Estimates Committee 433

Second and Third Reports-Presented

Business of the House 433-434

Calling Attention to Matter ot Urgent Public Importance 434-445

Agitation by employees of the All Incla Institute of Medical SCiences

Shrllnati Geeta Mukherjee 434 439-443

*The Sign + marked above the name of a Member Indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

COLUMNS

Shri Rashid Masood 434-438

Prof. Yadunath Pandey 443-445

Matters under Rule 377 445-450

(i) Need to take steps to improve the lot of coffee 445-446 growers of Kerala. Karnataka and Tamil nadu

Shri Mu"appa"y Ramachandra'l

(ii) Need to expedite construction of a by-pass for the 446-447 National Highway No. 47 in Quilon town in Kerala

Shn S. Krishna Kumar

(iii) Need to disilt Ansupa lake in Orissa 447-448

Shri Gopi Nath Gajapathi

,iv) Need to construct F .C.1. godowns in several districts of 448 Marathwada region in Maharashtra

Dr. Venkatesh Kabde

(v) Need to deal firmly with 9rganisations indulging in 448-449 anti-national activities in the country particularly in eastern region.

Shri Janardan Tiwari

(vi) Need to take steps to revamp Jute Industry in 449--450 West Bengal

Shri Sanat Kumar Mandai

(vii) Need to take steps to uproot corruption prevailing In 450 our society

Shri Anadi Charan Das (iii)

COLUMNS

Discussion Under Rule 193 450-479 Continued Atrocities on Scheduled Castes and Sche'duled Tribes in the country-Contd.

Kumari Mayawati 450-452 456-459

Shri R.N. Rakesh 459-463

Shri Satynarayan Jallya 563-567

Shri Yamuna Prasad Shastri 467-470

Shri Ramji Lal Suman 470-478

Shri Amar Roypradhan 478-479

Committee on Private Members' Bills and Resolutions 479-480

Seventh Report-Adopted

Bills Introduced 480-502

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 480 (Insertion of new articles 23 A, 23B and 23C) by Shrimati Basava Rajeswari

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 48u-481 (Amendment of Tenth Schedule) by Shrimati Basava Rajeswari

Providing of Free Medical and Technical Education Bill 481 by Shrimati Basava Rajeswari

Doctors and Engineers (Banning of Migration 482 to Foreign Countries) Bill by Sh-rimatlBasava Rajeswari

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 482--483 (Amendment of articles 341 and 342) by Shri Ram Lal Rahi (iv)

COLUMNS

Declaration of Assets by Civil Seryants Bill 483 by Shri K. Ramamurthy

Indian Penal Code (Amendment) Bill 483-484 (Insertion of new chapter VB) by Shn K. Ramamurthy

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 484 (Insertion of new article 48B, etc.) by Shri K. Ramamurthy

Representation of the People (Amendment) Bill 484-485 (Amendment of section 8, etc.) by Shri Mullappally Ramachandran

Council for Environment Protection Bil1 485 by Shri Mullappally Ramachandran

Crop Insurance Bill, 1990 485-486 by Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil

Public Interest litigation Bill 486 by Dr. P. Vallab Peruman

Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes 487 (Recognition of Welfare Associations) Bill by Dr. P., Vallal Peru man

Old Age Pension and Rehabilitation Bill 487-488 by Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Pati!

Salary, Allowances and Pension of Members of 488 Parliament (Amendment) Bill (Substitution of new section for section 3, etc.) by Shri Balasaheb Vikhe Patil

Right to Reply in the Press Bill 488-489 by Shri V.N. Gadgil

Abolition of Capital Punishment Bill 489 by Shri Yamuna Prasad Shastri (v)

\.~OLUMNS

Prevention of Social disabilities Bill 490 by Shri Kashiram Chhabildas Rana

Advocates Welfare Fund Bill 490--491 by Shri Kashiram ~hhabildas Rana

Indian Penal Code (Amendment) Bill 491 (Amendment of Section 376) by Shri Kashiram Chhabildas Rana

Rehabilitation of Victims of Terrorism Bill 491-492 by Prof. K. V. Thomas

High Court at Bombay (Establishment of a Permanent 492-493 Bench at Kohlapur) Bill by Shri Udaysingrao Gaikwad

Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Omission of article 370) 49~ by Shri Kashiram Chhabildas Rana

Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Substitution of new 493-49L Schedule for Eighth Schedule) by Shri Saty.agopal MIsra

Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Order 494 (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of the Schedule) by Snri K.S. Rao

Freedom of Religion Bill 494-49E by Shri Yadvendra Datt

Cnstitution (Amendment) Bill 49E (Amendment of Article 29, etc.) by Shri Sudhir Giri

Architects (Amendment) Bill 495-49( (Amendment ot section 25) .. by Shri Harish Rawat

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 496-49 (Amendment of Article 335) by Shri Harish Rawat (vi)

CoLUMNS

Provision of Employment Bill 497 by Prof. Mahadeo Shiwankar

Forest (Conservation) Amendment Bill 497-498 (Amendment of section 2 etc.) by Prof. Mahadeo Shiwankar

Scheduled Castes and Scheduled 498 Tribes Orders (Amendment) Bill by Prof. Mahadeo Shiwankar

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 499 (Insertion of new Article 31) . by Prof. Mahadeo Shiwankar

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 499 (Amendment of Article 311) by Shri Chitta Basu

Essential Services Maintenance (Repeal) Bill 500 by Shri Chitta Basu

Farmers and Agricultural Workers Benefit Fund Bill 500-501 by Shri Tej Narayan Singh

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 501 (Amendment of Article 48, etc.) by Shri Guman Mal Lodha

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 501-502 (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) by Shri Guman Mal Lodha

Architects (Amendment) Bill 544 (Amendment of Section 25) by Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam

Curtailment of Expenditure on Marriages Bill 544-545 by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt

Ceiling on Income Bill 545 by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt (vii)

COLUMNS

Constitution (Amendment) Bill 545-546 (Amendment of Article 124, etc.) by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt

Child Welfare Bill 546 by Shri Prakash Koko Brahmbhatt

Youth Bill by Shri Hannan Mollah 502-540 Motion to consider

Shri Tej Narayan Singh 503-505

Shri Mandhata Singh 505-513

Shri Jag Pal Singh 513-515

Shri Ram Krishan Yadav 515-516

Shri M.S. Pal 516-517

Shri K.S. Rao 517-521 529

Shri Santosh Kumar Gangwar 521-522

Shri Kusuma Krishna Murthy 522-524

Shri Chimanbhai Mehta 524-537

Shri Hannan Mollah 537-540

Grains Board Bill by Shri Yadvendra Oatt 541-544 Motion to consider

Shri Yadvendra Oatt 540-543 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA can participate in that discussion.

( Interruptions)

Friday, August 10, 1990/Sravana 19, 1912 PROF. SAIF-UO-DIN SOZ: We told the (Saka) Governor that the special powers under the Disturbed Area Act ... (Intsrruptions) ...

[English] The Iok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock MR. SPEAKER: You are a seasoned [MR. SPEAKER in the Chaitj parliamentarian and a senior Member of Parliament. Why do you want to deprive the [English] Members of Parliament the benefit of Ques- tion Hour .. (lnterruptions) PROF. SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ: Apart from the adjournment motion, I have given a no- PROF. SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ: The Home tice for suspension of Question Hour be- Minister must do a duty to come cause I have come from Kahsmir Valley and here ... (interruptions) Why do you not sus- I see a situation of death and destruction pend the Question Hour? there. I see the para-military forces killing innocent persons. There is misuse of Dis- MR. SPEAKER: I cannot suspend the turbed Area Act. I want this Parliament to do Question Hour. You can exercise your right a duty to the people of Kashmir. .. (Interrup- during the Question Hour. It is Members' tions) prerogative ... (Interruptions)

[ Translation] SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: I would appeal to Mr. Soz and also to you to allow MR. SPEAKER: Today, there is discus- him to raise this at 12 0' clock as the first sion on the Kashmir problem in the House. item. You are also a part of this House. ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [English] [ Translation] PROF. SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ: A parliamentary delegation has not gone there ... Rupee Value vis-a-vis sterling Pound

[ Translation] 61. PROF. YADUNATHPANOEY:WiJI I am a part of this House. I am telling you the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: what I have seen there ... (/nterruptions) (a) whether on 5 July, 1990, the Re- MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. To- serve Bank of India has fixed the purchase day, there is discussion on Kashmir and you and selling price of Pound at Rs. 30.06 and 3 Oral Answers . AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral AnswelS 4

Rs. 31.44, respectively after devaluating the a continuous downward trend in respect of Indian rupee; the value of sterling pound during the period 1980-81 to 1984-85 and as a result of that (b) if so, the reasons for effecting this there was a strong check on the devaluation devaluation; of rupee. If so, what long term measures the Government have taken to check the effects (c) the details of annual loss likely to be of devaluation of rupee on the payment of suffered due to the devaluation of Indian foreign loan and to check the devaluation of rupee and the extent of adverse effed it is rupee since April 1989 and if so, the details likely to create on the business with foreign thereof. countries; and PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, in (d) the number of times when Indian reply to the question asked by the han. rupee has been devaluated since 1985, the Member, I would like to say that the figures dates and extent and the outcome of devalu- that have been given in the main reply show ation effected each time? the adjustment made against different currencies from 1985 to 1988-89. And as I have THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. already said that it is not a devaluation but MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) No, Sir. adjustment only. As per the details, the number of adjustments made in the (b) and (c). Does not arise. rupeepound parity rate was 156 in the year 1985-86 and 200 in 1988-89. The reason for (d) The exchange rate of the rupee is such a large scale adjustment is to nullify the fixed with reference to the value of a basket adverse affect on our export in the competi- of currencies, mainly of countries which are tive market. I have not given the details of the India's major trading partners. In a regime of period prior to 1985. However, if he wants it, floating exchange rates, upward or down- I will lay that on the table of the House. ward movements of the value of the rupee, which depend on fluctuations in the value of PROF. YADU NATH PANDEY: Mr. these currencies, is a normal phenomenon. Speaker, Sir, what does the Government The number of adjustments made in the mean by saying it repeatedly that Govern- rupee-pound parity rate during the period ment is committed to check the devaluation 1985-86 to 1988-89 are as follows: of rupee. Since the Government has to pay higher amount in respect of repayment of 1985-86 156 foreign loans because of the devaluation of rupee, have the Government raised the 1986-87 148 matter with the concerned Governments for refixation of value of rupee forthe purpose of 1987-88 140 buying and selling of yen, mark, British pound and U.S. dollar and if so, the details thereof 1988-89 200 and how far it is possible to check the recent fall in value of the rupee? In view of the number of adjustments made in the rupee-pound parity rate it is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, the difficult to assess the outcome of each ad- Indian currency is linked not only with one justment. currency but with five currencies. When some changes take place in the exchange rates of [ Trans/ation] these five currencies, these have adverse effect on our currency also. These changes PROF. YADU NATH PANDEY: Mr. take place not because of our currency but Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the because of the changes that are effected in hon. Minister whether it is true thatthere was the International currency and to avoid its 5 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6

adverse affect we have to make certain over the last two years give the impreSSIOn adjustments. that the rupee is' not stable: The International Monetary Fund which is based in London is [English] a capitalist-oriented Fund which devalues rupee much more than what it should be. At SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE: the same time, the value of the rupee is much What I am unable to understand because of better than is at present rated in international my poor knowledge in these matters is; what circles. Possibly, a .reviews of the total is the implication of this distinction between monetary system is required as it is based on the former devalu~~:on and the floating devalue of goods and services. I do not think valuation that is going on since the days of rupee is as inferior as is made out to be. If we 80s? What distinction really is there in terms can hold our own in the whole of South-East . of any impact either on foreign trade or on Asia, why not in international sphere? foreign exchange reserves or on any other aspect on which the hon.Finance Minister PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, I may like to enlighten us? would like to remind the hon. Member that as far as the value of the rupee is concerned PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: As I have and the changes in the value of rupee are already pointed out earlier, really speaking, concerned, there can be an internal change after all, devaluation on depreciation is in the value of the rupee and there can be depreciation. I shall only point out to him that external change also. As far as the various the criticisms that are levelled are general specters in the economy of the country are criticisms. There must not be devaluation in concerned, they are responsible for the order to see that there are certa1n skeletons change in the value of the rupee and we find in the cupboard that can be hidden, and that the purchasing value of the rupee also some manipulatory results can be produced. changes. But, as I said earlier-I will repeat But, as far as these adjustments are con- that-sinceourcurrency is linked upwiththe cerned, if you can look at the numbers 156, basket of five currencies where, due to vari- 148, 140 and 200, all these adjustments had ous extraneous factors to Indian situation to take place because we wanted to maintain when some internal changes in the curren- the competitiveness of our exports and, cies take place, exchange rate takes place, therefore, these marginal adjustments which we have to take cognisance of that and in are made from time to time, we cannot give order to protect our market and our competi- in every case 150 times. I am not saying that tive exports, we are forced to undertake 150 or 200 are marginal. What I am saying is certain adjustments, and they have to be that when the changes take place 150 times, done. in that case, these are changes that have to be made in response to the fluctuations that As far as the second part of his question take place and we have to protect the com- is concerned, that problem is constantly under petitiveness on our export market, and that is review. the reason why these adjustments are being made by the past Government, present SHRJ P. CHIDAMBARAM: Sir, I agree Government and I think even in the future if that the hon. Finance Minister is not hiding we will l:lave to make, they will become any skeltons in his cupboard, but I think he is inevitable. That is -the reason why these trying to hide his discomforts in managing adjustments are heing made by the past the economy. I think he should be candid. Government. by the present Government Now, 200 changes in 1988-89 means prac- and I think even in future also they will have tically every other day you are adjusting the to be made. They will become inevitable. exchange value of the rupee vis-a-vis the pound. What you should tell us, Mr. Finance SHRI JOSS FERNANDES: Sir, the Minister, is what was the rupee-pound ex- number of fluctuations that have takAn Dlace change value on the 1st of April, 1988, on the 7 Oral Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral Answers 8

1st of April, 1989 and on the 1 st of April, 32.55 in relation to pound sterling, Rs. 17.31 1990. That will tell us whether the decline in in relation to dollar, Rs. 10.98 in relation to the value of the rupee vis-a-vis pound ;s deutche mark, and Rs. 0.104 in relation to marginal as you try to make out or it is sharp Yen. These are the latest fjgures as on 7th as we maintain it. I think we should honestly , August, 1990. admit that the pound is a much stronger currency. The Indian rupee is a weak cur- [ Translation1 rency vis-a-vis the pound. The Indian rupee has become weaker and the policies that SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Mr. you are pursuing are likely to make it even Speaker, Sir. if we compare rupee and doltar weaker. If your trade deficits are high, if your we shall find that the value of rupee is falling growth rate is low, if your revenue deficits are rapidly. In the official figures and according high, the Indian rupee will be weaker. As the to assessment by the Chief Ministers the balance of trade is adverse to you and it is unofficial rate of exchange of dollar is Rs. growing, it will b~come weaker. What is the 1 ?5 or As. 18 but in the actual dealings it is harm in admitting that the Indian rupee is As. 22. I mean to say that there is rapid fall weaker vis-a-vis the pound? Also tell us what in the value of rupee. We are putting up a steps you are taking. Instead of hiding be- facade of maintaining the value of rupee. hind all this verbiage that we have made 200 Why don't we go in for the devaluation of changes and it is marginal as compared to rupee. What is the harm in doing so? They 156 changes in 1985-86, tell us honestly apprehend that it will bad to poor impression whether the rupee is getting stronger vis-a- about the party in power. The Governmel"lt vis, the pound or it is getting weaker. If it is should take a bold step and devalue the getting weaker, what are you doing about it? rupee so that the national economy may not Also, please tell us what was the exchange suffer further loss on that account. value on 1st of April, 1988, 1st of April, 1989 and 1st of April, 1990. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I think the devaluation of rupee is not an easy thing. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir,ldo However the suggestion made by Shri Chi- notthink I have tried to hide anything less talk dambaram is the best course. The rate of about the skeletons. In fact, it is very clear growth, balance of payment ·situation and from the statistics that are available, and export. growth these three are the best which have been given to the entire House courses and I think we should go ahead for by the previous Government and even by the them only. 50 far as the adjustment is con- present Government, that in comparison with cerned, that is also a sort of devaluation. We the harder currencies-the five currencies in have been doing adjustments for the last few the basket-the Indian currency, that is, the years and that adjustment too is devalu- rupee, is a weaker currency. There is no ation. We have been doing that but I would sense in denying the fact and, therefore, we like to submit that the suggestion to go in for will say that in course of time, as we try to sharp devaluation of rupee may be a soft improve our international trade relationship, option but it is not a good option for us. we try to reduce the trade deficits, the balance of payment position improves and all [English] these extraneous tensions and constraints on the economy are reduced to a greater 5HRI K.S. RAO: Sir, the replies and the extent. To this extent we will succeed in speaches of the han. Minister will always be seeing that we are able to make our cur- full of humour and very pleasant but indi- rency, which is not a very strong currency, rectly certainly not to be correct and straight stronqer than what it is today. answers. The hone Minister was telling right now that he will have discussions with the If the hone Member wants to know the various foreign countries in regard to the latest position of the exchange value, it is Rs. fixing up of the variations in the exchange 9 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10 rate. By now he must have realised that it is SHRI V.N. GADGIL: May I know from not his talent and speeches or the negotia- the hon. Finance Minister what is the reac- tions orthe expressions or the language that tion to the proposal of one of their Chief help in the exchange rate but it is the wealth Ministers, Shri Biju Patnaik, that the rupee that is generated in the country that could should be made free? decide the value of the rupee in comparison with the foreign currer.cy. I would like to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, I know from the hon. Minister whether he is think Mr. Biju Patnaik, did a little bit of loud himseH satisfied with the tax structure or the thinking and I must make it explicitly clear various policies of the Government that he that when we have so much fiscal imbal- has introduced in the last budget to motivate ances in the country, the present position of the Indian citizen, whether he is an ordinary high deficits, inflationary pressures in the citizen, common man or businessman or economy, again imbalances in our trade anybody else in various professions, to work, relationship, under such a situation if we try to earn, to produce and generate wealth to float the currency and accept convertibil- sufficiently, to avoid this type of fluctuations ity, I think it will bring disasterto our economy happening too many times in the country. and I am totally ooposed to that. (Interrup- Does hethinkanything revolutionary method tions) or has he got any revolutionary concept-if he could not introduce it in the last budget- Seizure of Jewellery in Income Tax that he will introduce at least in the com~ng Raids budget? *62. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Speaker, Sir, if you read the question here, the question is regarding rupee value vis-a- (a) the circumstances under which In- vis the sterling pound and even personally I come tax authorities have the right to take feel that the questions is completely outside away jewellery during raids; the ambit of the question that he has asked. (b) whether jewellery valued below Rs. MR. SPEAKER: He is asking the ques- 1 lac is permitted as "Stri Dhan" to a Hindu tion because you will reply to that. woman and the Income tax authorities cannot take it away;

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: But, Sir, (c) whether the Income tax authorities since you have not prevented him from asking can take away jewellery during the raids the question, I assume that you have also which is assessed under the Wealth Tax Act given the consent to ask the question and for and on which Wealth Tax is paid; and all that I would say that if you want to broaden the ambit of the question and go to the (d) if so, the distinction made between question of tax-structure how we have to the Wealth Tax paid and unpaid jewellery? reduce deficits in the country, how the bal- ancement of payment position is to be im- THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. proved, etc. f don't think this is the correct MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (d). A State- ambit which we can discuss. But while reply- ment is laid on the Table of the House. ing to Mr. Chidambaram, broadly I have accepted that basic aspect of tackling this STATEMENT problem as also to see that we reorient the economy, try to have better resources, try to As per Section 132 (1 ) of the Income-tax improve our relationship, try to augment the Act, the authorised officer can seize any resources and also have better balance of money, bullion, jewellery or other valuable payment. (Interruptions) article or thing found as a result of search 11 Oral Answers AUGUST 10. 1990 Oral Answers 12

under section 132 (1) which represents ei- regard to compensate an assessee for the therwhollyorpartly income or property which loss of prestige in society as a result of the has not been, or would not be disclosed for raid, in case cash, assets or jewellery are not the purpose of the Indian Income-tax Act. As found during the raid as per the survey report per section 37 A of the Wealth tax Act, the or it is found to be totally baseless? What authorised officer can seize any money, measures are proposed to be taken to pro- bullion, jewellery or other valuable article or tect the honest tax payers against raids etc. thing found as result of search which is disproportionate to known assets, particu- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. lars of which will be useful for, or relevant to Speaker, Sir, one thing I would like to put it any proceeding under the Wealth-tax Act. straight that before conducting raids on the business premises, shops or houses, the The Income-tax Act and the Wealth-tax Government examines all the evidences and Act do not prohibit seizure of jewellery val- information received by them from various ued even below Rs. 1 lac if the income reliable sources. Such information is often represented by the jewellery has not been provided by the hon. Members, Social work- indisclosed under the Income-tax Act and if ers and political parties. Only when prima the jewellery is disproportionate to known facie evidence of evasion is there, then only assets, particulars of which will be useful for raids are conducted. I would like to inform or relevant to any proceedings under the the hon. Member that in 5 to 10 cases only of Wealth-tax Act. raids out of a hundred conducte.d by the department the information provided is not The jewellery owned by the female found to be correct. But in most of the cases members of the family is not seized to the of raids on houses, the assets, gold and extent it is found reasonable, considering Jewellery is found to be disproportionate the status of the family concerned, the cus- and the information supplied to be correct. tom of the community, the number of female So, if in some cases the information supplied members in the family and the time of mar- is found to be incorrect and on that basis if riage of the female members concerned. the system of conducting raids is altogether Each case is judged on its own merits. In discontinued, it would not be justified. Even respect of the assesses who are assessed to then I would like to inform the hon. Wealth-tax, only such jewellery which is in Member ... (Interruptions) excess of the amount of jewellery disclosed under the Wealth-tax Act is considered for SHRI HARIN PATHAK: I have not sug- seizure. gested the discontinueance of the system of raids. That is not my contention. [ Translation] PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I would SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Mr. Speaker, like to assure the hon. Member that before Sir, no han. Member of this House will dis- conducting any raid, the Government will agree with me that there is a parallel econ- definitely verify the authenticity of the infor- omy in our country. Whenever a raid is mation and the reliability of the source of that conducted the premises of big national information. The Government will never be companies, multinational companies and vindictive in ordering raids and even if the black marketeers, efforts are made to save information provided proves to be incorrect, them but generally it is seen that marginal nobody will be harassed through raids. and hones.t income tax payers are harassed by the Income Tax Officials. Sir, I would like SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Sir. through you to know from the hon. Minister whether any I would like to know from the hon. Minister· departmental survey is conducted before the details about the number of raids con- conducting raids on the premises of Income ducted in connection with the Income Tax Tax payers? If so, what are the provisions in evasion during the last two years all overthe 13 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 country and the amount of black money and reporting system, representation on the assets unearthed thereby? Boards of Directors, periodical meetings with the Chief Executives external audi1 by quali- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. fied accountants. Supervision over banking Speaker, Sir, the main question was: whether operations is also exercised by Reserve jwellery valued below Rs. one lakh is permit- Bank of India, the Central Banking Authority. ted as 'stri dhan' to Hindu woman. So right Specific aspects of functioning of the banks now I do not have the information desired by are also scrutinised and examined by Com- the han. Memt;>er. In reply to a question I mittees and working groups set up by the have placed before the House a statement in Government. Instructions and guidelines are this regard and I assure the han. Member issued to the banks from time to time on the that a copy of that statement will be sent to variOUS aspects of their operations. him. The public ~ector banks are required to MR. SPEAKER: Shri Mullappally Rama- function within the legislative frame-work by chandran. which they have been constituted. The annual report of each of the public sector banks is Prof. Ram Ganesh Kapse. laid before the Parliament as per the statutory requirements. A consolidated report on [English] the working of the public sector banks is also laiu before the Parliament every year. The Government Control over Banks working of the banks is also reviewed at the meetings of Consultative Committee for .~. PROF. RAM GANESH Finance Ministry and various other Commit- KAPSE: tees of Parliament. Government do not pro- PROF. PREM KUMAR DHU- pose to enact any separate legislation in this MAL: regard.

Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: I would to state: like to know whether it is a fact that unde- serving persons were nominated because of (a) the nature and extent of Govern- favouritism and nepotism on the part of the ment control over the working of banks; Board of Directors of banks and what steps have been taken to correct the disease on (b) whether Government propose to the long-term permanent basis. enact a law with a viewto make public sector banks effectively accountable to Parliament; PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, I and would like to inform the han. Member that we have already received some complaints (c) if so, the details thereof? regarding the appointment of certain persons for various Boards. We have already THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. set up an Appointment Board presided over MAOHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (c). A State- by the Governor of the Reserve Bank. That ment is laid on the Table of the House. Board is supposed to recommend names about the members who are to be appointed STATEMENT on the Board and the final decision is taken by the Minister. We have also entrusted the Government exercises control over the work to a committee to enquire into certain working of the public sector banks as per the complaints that have been lodged by Mem- powers enjoined upon it in the relevant stat- bers of Parliament, MLAs, social workers utes governing these banks. The control, as and members of the political parties regard- necessary, is exercised through the detailed ing some favouritism that had taken place in 15 Oral Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral Answers 16 the past. As a Finance Minister, I would not to evolve a certain institutionalised pattern like to. induct any politics into the matter and whereby matters will not be left to the discre- therefore whatever complaints are brought tion of individuals encouraging arbitrariness. in, we will look into them. Only those who are No doubt, irregularities not only about ap- not connected with politics and those who pointments on various Boards" but certain will judge the issues on administrative merits doubts have even been expressed about have been entrusted with the responsibility granting loans to various institutions or indi- to enquire into the matter and when I get the viduals and also about waiving certain hurdles report in about two week's time, I will take a which are there. To give him a concrete very firm attitude without showing favourit- instance-I do not want to elaborate the ism of whatever type. Only men of merit, as reply further-very often Members of Parlia- far as possible, will come to the Board, ment come to us saying that a particular unit because whatever selection is ultimately is sick-more than 2,20,000 units are sick- made, it will always be open to some objec- and say that the unit deserves a certain help. tion that 'X' is more meritorious than 'Y'. But, Now, we have evolved a guideline. If a large we will see to it that whoever had suffered at number of sick units are there, lOBI, BIFR the hands of the instrument of favouritism and other banking institutions are supposed will not continue to suffer. to give them necessary credit facilities and assistance. It is better that they try to find out PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: Sir, the as to which are the units which are likely to Government is a permanent and continuous become viable and survive if they are given affair. I would like to know as to what steps certain assistance. Whatever kit is available have been taken to correct the system on a to us, we will distribute to all units. We will long term basis as far as other wings are give priority to those units which are likely to concerned. I would also like to know as to gain viability as a result of the assistance and why, after taking all the precautions, there loans given by us and on the basis of that, we were hundreds of instances of irregularities will try to give loans. Like that. for various in the banks because of oral instructions form of changes and reforms, we are trying from the Ministry in the earlier regime. So, to evolve the norms. It might be that there what steps are being taken to stop this might be some gap between professions practice for ever? and practice. We will try to close that gap and whatever I had said while sitting on the other PROF. MADHU DANDAVATt:::Sir, lam side. I will try to implement them while sitting not sure whether he is connecting the sec- on this side. ond question with the first one which relates to the appointments to the Board, but this [Translation] relates to the general function ing of the banks. PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL: Mr. PROF. RAM GANESH KAPSE: In the Speaker, Sir, I would like to know from the general functioning, there are instance after han. Minister whether service in a bank is instances of loaning to wrong persons in- considered as an Office of Profit and whether volving crores of rupees which you were bank employees could contest Parliamen- criticising when you were in the Opposition. tary or Assembly elections; if so, the name of So, I would like to know as'to what you have the competent authority to grant such a done to prevent it. If you do it, it must be for permission. Besides, I would like to know ever, not only in your regime. whether in pursuance of the reply given by the hon. Mtnister to second part of my ques- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, the tion, the Government proposes to bring for- han. Member has rightly said that a Govern- ward a legislation in this regard? Even after ment is a continuing affair-affair in a good receiving complaints about it, why does not sense. I fully agree with him. When putting the Government take note of them and take the responsibility on 'X' or 'Y', we are trying remedj~1 measures? Do you consider the 17 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18

present system all right? Does not the Gov- regard to working of banks, it is necessary ernment consider it necessary to bring forthat the Government should exercise more ward a legislation so as to gain more control control over their functioning to ensure regu- over the banking system and make the sys- lar and smooth working of banks. Will the tem more effective, in view of the complaints Government bring forward a legislation in received by them. this regard?

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. Speaker,'Sir, the hon. Member has made a Speaker, Sir, while replying the main ques- very good suggestion and has also desired tion, I had covered all these points. We have to know whether baf'fk employees have a evolved a separate procedure to ensure the right to contest the elections. In this connec- participation of people and parliamentary tion, I would like to cite here an old instance. institutions in the functioning of the banks. This point has been under discussion in the We have also evolved a set procedure with country for a pretty long time. There was a regard to the functioning of the Board and time when teachers and professors of uni- the non-official members of the board, ex- versities and schools had no right to contest tent of power of the Reserve Bank of India in elections. But the Kothari Commission in this monitoring the working of banks and their report made a recommendation that profes- accountability to Parliament. I would also sors and teachers might contest elections like to inform the han. Member that the and become members of such institutions as Estimates Committee, which is a Parliamen- long as it does not come in the way of tary Committee, is fully empowered to in- discharging their duties. spect the working of banks in various states. Several hon. Members of Parliament have MR. SPEAKER: You are also here made a number of complaints in regard to because of that. the working of the banks and have given a number of reports. Parliament has the right PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I en- to inspect all the banks under the public tered this field after my retirement. But so far sector in the country. Annual reports of each as the bank employees are concerned, noth- and every public sector bank is laid on the ing has so far been decided in thiS regard. table of the House. Not only that, an overall There is a difference between the railway or report with regard to the working of publiC Government employees and banks or insur· sector banks is prepared by the Ministry of ance employees. But no final decision has Finance and submitted to the Parliament. yet been taken about them. In a democratic Such reports are brought before the Parlia- state, any employee of a bank or insurance ment. During the previous Lok Sabha, I had company or a corporate body has every right raised a point of order that as and when a to contest elections and your suggestion in document is placed on the table of the House, this regard is most welcome. H considered every hon. Member has a right to raise a necessary. we will bring forward a Bill to that discussion on any of the points contained effea ... { Interruptions) therein. Similarly, as and when reports of the banks or any individual bank are laid on the PROF. PREM KUMAR DHUMAL: Mr. table, hon. Members of Parliament have a Speaker, Sir, reply to my second question right to discuss the report in the House and has not come. I had desired to know as to point out any irregularity that comes to their why the Government does not bring forward notice. a Bill in order to deal with the complaints of the general public coming in respect of [English] banking services so as to have a greater Government control over the banks. I had SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The Banks raised the point of elections separately. In were nationalised ;n 1969 by Shnmati Indira order to redress the public grievances in Gandhi so that the banking system may 19 Oral AnSW91S AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral Answ81S 20 subserve the cause of social justice and men!, is that we would like to maintain bal- investment in priority areas. In order to en- ance between functional autonomy of the sure that the banks adhere to the social and banks on the one side and accountability on economic objectives, there is need for ade- the other and, in order to increase the ac- quate control by the Central Government on countability, we will try to see that various the Banks. So, a fine balance has to be Committees of the Parliament like the Esti- achieved between the fiscal and profes- mates Committee are req~ested to take up sional banking principles as well as the more and more problems connected with the concerns of social justice. The Janata Oal Banking institutions, prepare a report on Government seems to be revelling in taking them and these reports are laid on the Table a series of steps to whittle down the power of of the House and I would very much like that the elected representatives of the people as rather than discussing so many other non- well as the political executive. I do not want issues, if we are able to discuss those prob- to elaborate. Let us take legislations like the lems, I think Parliament will be able to exert Lok Pal Bill and the Prasar Bharati Bill. In its authority more effectively than we have each of these initiatives, parliamentary con- been able to do. trol and the power of the political executive is being whittled down. It is almost like a SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Are you scorched earth policy. They know that they going to reduce the strength of the banking are not going to be in power for long. They Deptt. of the Finance Ministry? want to reduce the power of the political executive for over. PROF. MAOHU OANDAVATE: No. I am not at all in favour of curtailing the powers Against this background in the bankIng of the banking Section of the Finance Minis- sector, I would like to ask the Finance Minis- try. But, at the same time, I do not want ter whether there is a proposal to reduce the undue political interference in the working 01 power of the Department of Banking. over insurance and the banking system. the national Banks and hand overthe nationalised banking system totally to the Reserve SHRI NANI BHATTACHARYA: Will the Bank and make it 100% under its control, hon. Minister enlighten the House about the almost extinguishing the Banking Depart- incidence of backdates as the quantum of ment of the Finance Minister. 1 understand backdates have increased continuously since there is a proposal like that. We would like to 1980 in the nationalised banks? know the Finance Minister's reaction.

PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE:Thehon. PROF. MAOHU DANOAVATE: The Member has unnecessarily tried ;.:> induct picture is not uniform. Some of the banks politics into the banking system. I never have produced adequate surpluses, if you indicated that we wanted to reduce the control do not like the word ·profits'. But at the same of the Parliament. Of course, I have made time I must say that because of certain habits my very first submission while speak:ng on of the customers and those who taken the banking in this House that in order that the loans from the banks, in some of the sections banking and insurance are able to function the bad debts are increasing. The Reserve more effectively and to make them viable Bank has addressed itself to this task and it and profitable institutions, it is necessary was, to a certain extent, alarmed by this that these institutions should have functional particular trend in some of the banks no autonomy subject to accountability and I matter whether they are the private banks or said that accountability had been diluted. whether they are the nationlised banks. So, merely giving autonomy end forgetting Therefore, we will take due cognizance of accountability is not gOing to solve the prob- the doubts you have expressed. We will take lem. The new Government's equal stress as all possible measures to see that this par- of your Government, the former Govern- ticular aberration of bad debts in the banks is 21 Oral Answe/S SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Oral AnswelS 22

reduced to as small an order as possible. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. (1ntMLJ)ti:)ns) Spetiker, Sir, he has raised a point aboutthe employees of regional rural banks. His trade In this respect, the State Governments union colleagues met me only 4 days ago and the Central Government can also do a and I have given them assurance. Of course, lot of work. Some Governments had done a I cannot refer to the proceedings of the other very good job in assuring those who have House, Le. Rajya Sabha. taken the loans that if they return the loans within the prescribed amount of time, then [English] the Government will give some subsidy so that there will be more incentive for clearing And in other places, I can say. the debts in time. I remember. as far as Karnataka State is concerned, irrespective [ Translation] of the political party that runs the Govern- ment, I think this experiment has succeeded An other han. Member had raised this a lot. I hope this will be emulated by the issue. I have assured him also that after different States. holding negotiations with our friends from the trade unions and in the light of the ver- [ Translation] dicts of the tribunal and the court, we will think about coming to an amicable settle- SHRI GUMAN MAL lODHA: Mr. ment. They will feel satisfied when they are Speaker, Sir, I would like to know whether'in consulted in the matter. pursuance of the Supreme Court verdict dated 26.11.87, the National Industrial Tri- SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: By when it will bunal was constituted in order to bring parity be done. in the pay scales and allowances of employees of Regional Rural Banks and those of PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: The the nationlised banks. Is it also a fact that in trade unions, who were apprised of our views, para 8 of Government of India notification, it have accepted our proposal. has been stated that. SHRIMATI SUBHASHINI ALI: Mr. [English] Speaker, Sir, the hon Minister of Finance made a reference to the question of ac- The decision of the court is final and countability. I would like to make two sug- binding. gestions so as to ensure accountability. However, I would like to know whether the [ Translation] hon. Minister is prepared to accept those suggestions. Firstly, there should be the Is it also a fact that the Chief Justice of representatives of the employees on the Andhra Pradesh High Court, Shri S. Dbal boards of the Nationalised Banks. Is the hon. Reddy who was Chairman of the above Minister going to give them representation Tribunal, passed orders that the pay and on the boards or not? My second suggestion allowances of both the categories shall be is about C.A.G. and I would like to know identical? Is it also a fact that during the whether the hon. Minister is going to bring Congress regime, it was also made appli- the accounts of the nationalised banks within cable to the undertakings? Your Govern- the ambit of the C.A.G. ment is more progressive and you are yourself well-versed in the socialistic ideology PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. and one who has always extended his sup- Speaker, Sir, as regards the suggestions port to the employees of the rural banks. Are given by the hon.,Member, the first sugges- you going to implement the above recom- tion concerns the legislative part of it. As per mendations and if so, by what time. the existing provisions of law, the structure of 23 Oral Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral Answers 24 the banking board will have one representa- recommendations of the Kelkar Committee tive from bank employees union and one in which they have asked to broaden the per from the bank Officers association. This case capita base of the bank to try to change the had also been referred to the Supreme Court investment policy. But we will take final and the High Court. These courts also gave decision, as I assured the unions of the their verdict that the Government should regional rural banks, in consultation with recognise the majority union in each indus- them, in the matter. (Interruptions) try, banking industry or banks. They have given maximum freedom in the matter. The Pay Parity Recommended by Ninth union could make their suggestion but the Finance Comm Ission board wottfd-tak~ its\fifflitdecisibn. In pursuance of the above verdict, the Government *66. SHRI SURESH KODIKKUN- on its part has decided that a panel of three NIL: persons will be forwarded by the majority SHRI PALAI K. M. MATHEW: union. However, only one person from amongst the persons on the panel will be Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased taken on the board and there will be one to state: representative from the officers' association. As such the suggestion made by the (a) whether the Ninth Finance Commis- hon. Member is hundred per cent accept- sion has recommended additional financial able to us. So far as the suggestion regard- assistance to States which propose to give ing the C.A.G. is concerned, we will consider their employees the same pay scales as are that point. To this date, no final decision has admissible to Central Government employ- been taken In this regard. As such, I would ees; not like to give wrong information to the Hon'ble Members of the House. (b) if so, the details of such States and the reaction of Union Government thereto; [English] (c) whether the Ninth Finance Commis- SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA:The sion has recommended a sum of Rs. 513.27 hon. Minister has already explained different crores for Kerala in this regard, while com- types of control over the banks in improving puting the revenue expenditure of Kerala the functioning of the nationlised banks. (Inter- Government for the period 1990-95; ruptions) I want to know from the hon. Minis- ter what are the causes of total loss in which (d) the revenue surplus or deficit calcu- the regional rural banks are running now. lated by the Ninth Finance Commission in And what remedial steps the Government respect of Kerala for the above period; and propose to take for the proper functioning of the regional rural banks? (e) whether this position takes in account the expenditure of the State for Pay PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, as parity? far as regional rural banks are concerned, it is a fact that some of the banks are running THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. into losses. There was a Kelkar Committee MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). The that was set up and that made various rec- Ninth Finance Commission has not recom- ommendations to improve the situation. One mended any specific financial assistance to of the suggestions outside the Committee States which propose to give their employ- that was put forward is that those regional ees the same pay scales as are admissible rural banks which are running in losses they to Central Government employees. sho~ld be merged with the sponsoring banks" But we have not taken a decision. On the (c) While computing the normative reve- contrary. we would like to follow some of the nue expenditure of Kerala for 1990-95, the 25 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

Ninth Finance Commission has estimated a 60%. Weightage will be given in per-capita provision of Rs. 513.27 crores towards Pay income below the national average-that Parity. will be 20%. Then weightage will be given to the fiscal management of the economy- (d) The non·Plan revenue surplus of that will be 10%. Lastly for special problems Kerala after devolution at share in taxes and of special category States there will be 10% duties is Rs. 2.29 crores. weightage. On the basis of that we will calcu- late the total amount that is to be accrued by (e) Yes, Sir. each State and you can rest assured that on the basis of this we will be able to give the SHRI SURESH KODIKKUNNIL: The assistance. 9th Finance Commission has not recommended any specific financial assistance to Lastly, there is a mOV8 to modify this some States. What does the Union Govern- Gadgil formula still further so that those ment propose to do to help these States States which are having deficits will be able which want to give their employees the same to get more assistance. The National Devel- pay scale as are admissible to the Central opment Council will try to consider these Government employees? steps and try to arrive at a final conclusion.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: As far SHRI SURESH KODIKKUNNIL: If the as the 9th Finance Com mission is concerned, State Governments decide forthe pay-parity we have accepted the broad recommenda- of their employees, how much of the total tions because we have been treating the estimated provision will be met by the Cen- Commission's Report as award. tral Government?

Firstly the Finance Commission Report PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I do not has prescribed that 85% of the total revenue want to make any commitment at all. But as generated by the personal income tax should far as the Finance Commission is concerned, to the State. Secondly 45% of the revenues they have already worked out the details. For that are generated by excise duty should be various States they have also mentioned given to the States. Further it has been what will be the total amount. We have not at suggested that among various States some all made our commitment. but those esti- of the States have got deficits, there are a mates are ready. some other States in which the revenue collection is better-they have actually SHRI PALAI K.M. MATHEW: Part (c) of mentioned a list of 15 States in which they the questions says whether the 9th Finance have tried to indicate as to what can be the Commission has recommended a sum of provision for pay-parity. In the 8 States in Rs. 500 and odd crores etc. But in the which there is some non-plan revenue defi- answer it is said that "The Finance Commis- cit, current grants have also been recom- sion has estimated ... ". There is a vast differ- mended. You will be happy to know that as ence between these two words. I would like far as the non-plan revenue deficit grants are to get a clarification on that. concerned, in the case of these 8 States where the recommendation has been made, I would like to know whether the Kerala we have accepted those applications and Government has submitted a proposal for we will fulfil them. pay-parity. Did they approach for any specific help in this regard? Has the Kerala I would like the hon. House to know that Government represented before the Finance there is a modified Gadgil formula in which Commission for a recommendation by it? the assistance will be given based on various categories. For instance the weightage PROF. MADHUD, .NDAVATE:Notonly will be given in terms of population-that is Kerala State, but some other States have 27 Oral Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Oral Answ91S 28 also made certain suggestions. We are main question is about Kerala. seized of the matter. We are also aware of the fact that in various States if this pay-party SHAI JANAADAN YADAV: Bihar is is to be accepted how much expenditure will giving the Central pay-scales to its employ- be involved. ees, just like other States. What type of other assistance does the Central Government SHRI PALAI KM. MATHEW: Did they want to provide to the State of Bihar. submit a concrete proposal? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Yes, that Speaker, Sir, it is a very wide question. If he is right. We have not finally accepted that has a specific question he can write to me because we cannot take the decision for one and I will reply, but let him not join it with this particular State and deny it to others. Unless question. (Interruptions) we are able to take an overall decision about all the States, I do not think we will be able to [English) arrive at a final decision in that direction. SHAI HANNAN MOLLAH: Sir, to en- [ Translation] able the Finance Commission for proper assessment, I would like to know whether KUMARI UMA SHARATI: Mr. Speaker, the Government will consider a proposal to Sir, the employees of regional rural banks of set up a single Pay Commission for a" the Kashmir, the rural banks in Kashmir valley ... employees-Central, State and teachers.

MR. SPEAKER: Madam, this question (interruptions) is related to Ninth Finance Commission. Your question is related to it. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Hannan Mollah, your question pertains to Pay Commission. KUMARI UMA SHARATI: Mr. Speaker. I do not think it comes under the purview of Sir, I know it. I am talking about pay parity. I the Main Question. delete the word 'rural'. The Kamraj Rural Bank, which is being run by Jammy and ( Interruptions) Kashmir Bank and the employees working in other rural Banks ... (lnterruptions) SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: No, Sir. J want to know how much money they have to MR. SPEAKER: Madam. this question keep for this. is about the Finance Commission. Your subject is different. ( Interruptions)

(Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, the only common point between Finance Com- SHRIJANARDAN YADAV:Mr. Speaker, mission and Pay Commission is only 'Com- Sir, I would like to know from the Minister mission'. Therefore, Sir, I think this is com- through you whether the State Government pletely outside the purview of this Question. of Bihar is giving the same pay-scales to their employees those given by the Central Off-Shore Fund of State Bank of India Government. The Chiei Ministerot Bihar has rejected the Gadgil formula. Grant should be *67. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRA- given to them on the basis of poverty and NHUBHAIT: Will the Minister of FINANCE population of the S1 teo be pleased to state:

MR. SPEAKEF . If the Hon'bte Minister (a) whether the State Bank of India wants, he ccn reply to this question. The (S81) is considering to launch a 50 million 29 Oral Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

dollar off-shore fund as a part of the Bank's [English) effort to bring money from abroad for invest- ing in the Indian Capital Market; Precious Stones In Orissa

(b) if so, whether any concrete formula -68. SHAI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister has been prepared by the SBI in this regard; of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: and (a) whether a large quantity of previous (c) the schemes on which money so stones have been located at Doik allu-Muni- gaeJu railway sector near Hatdoikkalu in obtained is proposed to be spent? Orissa recently; and

THE MIN ISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. (b) if so, the details thereof? MADHU DANDAVATE) (a) and (b). The State Bank of India (SBI) has already THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES launched the second tr:anche of the India AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE Magnum Fund N.v. inJuly, 1990 for US $ 50 (SHRI DINESH GOSWAM1): (a) and (b). million. Occurrence of semi-precious stones i.e. garnet and chrysoberyl have been reported (c) It is proposed to invest the proceeds on the railway track about 2.5 Kms. south of in equities and equity-related securities in Dahikhal Railway Station on Raipur-Vizian- India mainly through capital market opera- garam line in Bissam Cuttack Tehsil of Kora- tions. put District. The occurrence is limited to an area of about 50 metres X 10 metres and is [ Translation] close to the railway line.

SHRI PRAKASH KOKO SHRI N. DENNIS: It is learnt that there BRAHMBHATI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, he has was delay on the part of railway department Informed about the second tranche. How to pass on the information about the availa- much amount was mobilised in the first bility of precious stones of the mining depart- scheme. fT1':-'" If! the meantime, the common men, s' jlers and others got involved in illicit mi, 1:9 and they tool away the precious \)(18S, thereby causing a heavy loss to the [English] Government. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, it May I know from the Minister the esti- does not mean, in the order it is the second mated loss caused to the Government by the one. It is not that. illegal mining by smugglers, etc? Has anybody been punished for illicit mining and also [ Translation] for taking away the previous stones from there? SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATI: How much foreign money SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: If this ques- was mobilised under this scheme? tion is related to this area, sufficient protection has been taken. But it it refers to the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Mr. entire generality, then, of course, 'shall have Speaker. Sir, the Government has a target of to answer differently. US$ 156 million. We hope to mobilise much more than that. 31 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 32

[Eng/ish] shortage of staff in bank branches in rural areas; and WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (d) the details of the scheme formulated Panel to Study Tea Trade by Government in this regard?

*63. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COM- MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) Yes, Sir. MERCE be pleased to state: (b) In terms of Government Guidelines

(d) if so, their response thereto? (d) No, specific scheme has been formulated by the Government in this regard. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): [English] (a) No, Sir. Pac Between .TOe and US Hotel (b) to (d). Do not arise. Corporation

( Trans/ation] *69. SHRJ YADVENDRA DA IT: SHRi BRU SHUSHAN TIWARI: Shortage of Staff In Rural Branches of Banks Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state: *65. SHRI PRAHLAD SINGH PATEL: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (a) whether the India Tourism Develop- state: ment 'Corporation have entered into a pact with Radisson Hotel Corporation of the (a) whether according to the Reserve U.S.A.; Bank of India report there is surplus staff in the Metrpolitan branches of nationalised (b) if so, the terms of the pact between banks whereas there is shortage of staff in them; the rural branches of these banks; (c) whether discussions were held with (b) if so, the reaction of Government in other international groups of hotels before this regard; entering into an agreement with Mis Radis- son and (c) whether the Reserve Bank of India (d) the reasons for selecting Radisson has submitted any scheme to remove the in comparison to others? 33 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which has offices at 100 locations. MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (4) MIs Radisson have offered to TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL train at their own cost and out- MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. side India upto-10 ITOe executives per annum; the duration of (b) The broad .terms and conditions of which would range between 6 the Agreement are given in the annexure. weeks to 9 months. The training cost has been computed at U.S. (c) and (d). ITOC held preliminary Dollars 5,00,000 annual, which negotiations with two other well known Inter- will be borne by MIs Radisson national Hotel chains. While one party did and will be a major foreign ex- not show interest the other party's interest change saving for rTOC. was linked with its hold on the management of ITOC hotels. This was not acceptable to (5) The Radisson Hotels have ITOC as it was not in the interest of Govern- brought out operating manual ment. However the proposal received from which could be modified to suit MIs Radisson Hotel Corporation of USA was local hotel operations. considered mutually beneficial as per detailed terms and conditions outlined in the (6) The Radisson Hotels has a de- Statement give below. tailed Management Information System. Further, the following factors went in favour of MIs Radisson Hotel Corporation; (7) The Company has an in-house design and construction group (1) Radisson Hotels is rated amongst which can help planning ITOC's the ten top companies of US. It new projects besides assisting manages ar.td operated Plaza in updating its technology. Hotels, All Suite Hotels, Colony Resorts and Inns besides run- (8) The Radisson Hotels specialised ning the famous TGI Fridays. in maintenance and security.

(2) The company is the fasters grow- (9) The Radisson Hotels can help in ing international chain-starting providing inputs for technical with 39 hotels in 1983 had 230 know how, which include kitchen hotels by the end of 1989. equipment. laundry and other house keeping appliances. (3) The Company has a back up of largest travel organisation hav- (10) The Radisson Hotels are known ing 708 travel agencies and sales for their local promotional activi- outlets throughout the US, Can- ties which help building up of ada and Mexico. traffic; these include; Adventure Weekends and Unique Packages The Company includes firms and estab- for Restaurant Promotion. lished operators like "Ask Mr Foster Travel Service' and 'First Toursim the USA. (11) Mis Radisson, as per the agreement will participate jointly with In Canada it has back up of lawson ITOC in International Sales 35 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 36

Conventions. In respect of an- The agreement is for a period of nual ITB Convention at Berlin, ten years; Germany, Ms Radisson will pay the affaire, board and laoding It covers provision of marketing, expenses of 2 ITDC's Marketing technical and consultancy serv- representatives. ices by Mis Radisson Hotels Corporation of Minneapolis USA; STATEMENT

The broad terms of agreement entered the benefit under the agreement into by ITOC with MIs Radisson Hotels Cor- will be for the following proper- poration are given below: ties of ITOC:-

(1) Ashok Hotel, New Delhi, which will be an affiliate hotel of Radisson Hotels Corporation (2) Hotel Ashok Bangalore, Bangalore These properties will be designated as Ashok Radisson. (3) Lalitha Mahal Palace, Mysore

(4) Kovalam Ashok Beach Resort Kovalam

The following services will be provided telephone system, computers, by Mis Radisson Hotels Corporation to software, cleaning and mainte- ITDC:- nance facilities as also business meeting facilities; (1 ) To provide operating manuals to ITDC so as to introduce stan- (5) To actively engage and cooper- dardised procedure and system ate with 'TDC in establishing on in its hotels. line reservation system between ITDC and the Radisson Hotels (2) To train at their cost and outside Corporation with a view to bene- India upto ten executives annu- fiting the Ashok Radisson prop- ally. The duration of which would erties. range between 6 weeks and 9 months. Terms of Agreement

(3) To make available at their cost The fee payable to Radisson Hotel 20 men months training outside Corporation an envisaged in the agreement India in marketing. finance and will be as follows:- project management. (i) US $ 100,000 in lump sum for (4) To provide technical expertise in management Development the area so equipment procure- (Training) on-going ~xpenses ment, laundry, security system, and for technical and operational 37 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

consultancy services. clone hit areas in Andhra Pradesh in May, 1990. (ii) 3% of room revenue, as fran- chise fee, generated by the four (b) and (c). As a result of discussions hotels covered under the agree- between Government of India/Government ment. of Andhra Pradesh with the World Bank, a proposal for financing reconstruction works (iii) US$6 as booking fee for every in Andhra Pradesh is being considered by materialised reservation on re- the World Bank: The Project is yet to be ciprocal basis. negotiated and no assistance has so far been received from the World Bank. World Bank Team to Andhra Pradesh Cyclone Hit Areas [ Translation]

"70. SHRI RAJA MOHAN REDDY: Will IMF Suggestions for Rupee Devaluation the Minister ot FINANCE be pleased to state: "71. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: (a) whether a World Bank Team visited Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to the cyclone-hit areas in Andhra Pradesh in state: May, 1990; (a) the present market value of Indian (b) if so, the details thereof including rupee; their assessment of the devastation and the purposes for which the assistance recom- (b) whether the International Monetary mended; and Fund has suggested to India for devaluation of rupee; and

(c) the a~sistance received from the (c) if so, the details thereof and the World Bank so far? reaction of Govqrnment thereon?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) The Division MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) The spot buy- Chief, Agriculture Division of the India De- ing rates to RBI as on 7.8.1990 forthe major partment of the World Bank visited the cy- currencies are as follows:

Rupee per unit of foreign currency

(1 ) u.s. $ 17.31

2) D.M. 10.98

3) Japanese Yen 0.1148 39 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1390 V'lritten Answers 40

(b) No, Sir. mOt!lties which were a cause of concorn at the beginning of the year. However, the (c) Does not arise. position in respect of some items, particularly edible oils, continues to be uncom10rt- [English] able because of low supplies. During the current financial year upto 21 st July 1990, Rise In Prices the WPI has registered an increase of 4.3 per cent which is lower than 4.5 per cent ·72. SHRIMATI BAS AVA RAJES- increase recorded in the corresponding WARI: ' period of last year. SHRI MADAN LAL KHUR!\t~A:

Will the Minister of FINANCE be p!(~ased (d) Tr,e main items whose prices have to state: recordod increases in I eCEent months are sugar, tea, ed;ble oils, cement and salt. (a) whether Government have made Prices of items like pulses, fruits and vege- any assessment of the situation arising out tables have also risen mainly due 10 sea- 10 the continuous alarming price rise in the sonal factors. The Government has taken a country; number of measure to bring them under control. These include higher releases of (b) if so. the outcome of such assess- levy and free-sale sugar, import of edible ment and the suggestions made by the Prime oils, staggering of tea exports, removal of Minister in this regard; transpoft bottle-necks on cement and salt. As a result, the increase in prices of several (c) the measures being considered by of these items have been moderated. Government to check the rise in prices; and

(d) the main items on which there h3S World Bank Aided Forestry Programme bee steep price rise and the steps takc:n t:; check them? ·73. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the Min- THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. ister of FINANCE be pleased to state: MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) 10 (c). The Government accords high priority to control (a) whether Kerafa Government has of inflation. The price situation is kept under requested Union Government to a({ow to constant review and measures have been continue the World Bank aided social for- taken, both on the demand and the supply estry programme for two more years; and side, to keep prices under reasonable check. These include; curbs on growth of liquidity; (b) if so, the action taken by Union monitoring the budgetary deficit through Government in this regard? careful scrutiny of, and control on, Govern- ment expenditure; ensuring supplies of THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. essentia\ commodities under the POS: aug- MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) Yes. Sir. mentations of domestic supplies through imports as feasible; and action <1rpin:.~ hoarders. The measures taken have led to (b) 1 he proposal for extension has some softening of prices of certain com- been recommended to the World Bank. 41 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

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Per10rmance of Export Houses Agreement With Portugal for Retrieving Gold Jewellery of Goans -75. SHRI M.V. CHANDRA SEKHARA MURTHY: SHRI V. SREENIVASA *74. SHRI HARISH PAL: Will the Min- PRASAD: ister of FINANCE be pleased to state: ,) i-_.' ",_. ~" Will the Minister of COMME~ be (a) whether Union Government have pleased to state: entered into an agreeme.nt with Government of Portugal for retrieving gold jewellery of (a) whether the attention of Govern- Goans; ment has been drawn to the news-item captioned "Poor performance by export houses" appearing in the Hindustan Times, (b) if so, the details of talks held in this dated 16 July, 1990; regard with Government of Portugal; (b) if so, whether several export houses (c) whether they have agreed to return have not achieved their export targets due to the entire jewellery: and which foreign exchange earnings have declined; and

(d) if not, the reaction of Government (c) if so, the reaction of Government th_ereto? thereto and the steps proposed to be taken to boost exports?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (d). Govern- TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): ment have been pursuing the matter relat'lng (a) Yes, Sir. to the return of gold ornaments and other safe custody articles presently held with (b) The status 01 Export Hoses is con- Banco Nacional Ultramarino (BNU), lisbon 1erred on the basis 01 previous three years' (Portugal), with the concerned Portuguese average export performance which has to be authorities through diplomatic channels. A more than the prescribed eligibility thresh- delegation from State Bank of India had old. Other than this, no export targets have visited Lisbon during May, 1990 to hold been prescribed bytheGovernmentforthem. discussions with BNU, Lisbon in regard to the return of these gold ornaments and other (c) Question does not arise. saie custQd~ art\c\es. BNU I L\sbof\ has agreed to return the go\o ornaments p\eogeo Export ot Betal Leaves with its erstwh ile branches in Goa and Daman "76. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: Will and the other safe custody articles depos- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to ited with their offices. The banks have final- state: ised and initialled a draft agreement which would facilitate the handing over of these (a) the steps his Ministry has taken or gold ornaments and other safe custody ar- propose to take to promote the export of ticles by BNU. Lisbon to State Bank of India. betel leaves; 43 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 44

(b) whether Government propose to functions being performed by them with a include betel leaves in the list of oommodi- view to reduce functions and activities which ties to be exported; and are no longer relevant or can be performed more economically in some other way. Min- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? istries!Departments have also been instructed to restrict expenditure on travel as THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE AND well as use of petrol, staff cars, etc. TOURISM (SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU): (a) to (c). Export of betel leaves is freely (c) and (d). The full effect of all the allowed on decontrolled basis without any measures can be assessed only over a export licence formalities. The- Agricultural period of time. and Processed Food P,roducts Export De- velopment Authority (APEDA), an autono- Foreign Exchange earnings by Compa- mous body under the Minsitry of Commerce, nlea assists exporters, inter alia, of betel leaves. Registered exporters of betel leaves are *78. SHRI SUBHASHINI ALI: eligible for 5% REP import licences. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA:

Measures to Slash Government Expen- Will the Ministeraf FINANCE be pleased diture to state:

·n. SHRIC.P. MUDALAGIRIYAPPA: (a) the reasons as to why companies Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to are asked to report their foreign exchange state: earnings in theIr balance sheet; and

(a) whether Union Governemnt have (b) whether this data is tabulated by the decided to slash Government expenditure; Ministry to find out which companies are causing drain of foreign exchange? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. (c) whether the measures decided have MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) The disclosure yielded any positive results; and of information relating to foreign exchange earnings in the profit & loss account of the (d) if so, the details thereof? companies is for the information and use of the share-holders and other concerned. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). It is (b) No such data is oompiled under the continuous endeavour of the Government to Companies Act at present. contain non-developmentalexpenditure. All Government Ministriesl Departments have Waiver of Agriculture Loana by States been asked to absorb addnKlnai commitments on Dearness Allowance within the *79. SHRI A. CHARLES; ?to'l\s\on made 10r estab\\shmen\ expendi· SHR\ AJ\l PANJA: \Ufe. The ~\n\stf\es'Departmet\\s have been asked to locate savings with in their budget Will the Minister of FINANCE be pfeased to matcb the Supplementaries ought for by to state: them. The Ministries/Departments have also been requested to review the whole range of (a) whether any of the State Govern- 45 Written Answers SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 46 ments has commenced waiver of agricul- expeditiously. The Government of India have turalloans; if so, the details thereof; also advised the State Governments in June 1990 that the State Cooperative Banks can (b) whether Union Government have also avail concessional loan from the Na- issued specific instructions to State Govern- tional Bank for Agriculture and Rural Devel- ments regarding the mode of waiver and the opment (NABAAD) to meet their share of time within which loans are to be waived; if 50% of the cost of debt relief of the Coopera- so, the details thereof; and tives.

(c) whether any State Government has [ Trans/ation] raised objections to such waiver of loans; if so, the details thereof? Aid by 'Aid India Consortium'

THE MIN ISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. *80. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (c). Govern- SHASTRI: ment of India have formulated a scheme SHRI UMA SHARATI: known as 'Agricultural and Rural Debt Relief (ARDR) Scheme, 1990' for providing debt Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased relief to farmers. landless cultivator, artisans to state: and weavers upto As. 10,0001- by public sector banks and regional rural banks. In so (a) the amount of foreign assistance to far as the banks in cooperative sector are be provided to India in 1990-91 by the 'Aid concerned, State Government have been India Consortium'; as decided in Paris in requested to frame a scheme on similar June, 1990; pattern. As per reports received, seventeen State have accepted in principle the Central (b) whether the current amount of as- Government's scheme for adopting it in sistance is les$ than the amount provided respect of Cooperatives. The State Govern- last year by the 'Aid India Consortium' and if ment are finalising their schemes. Ten State so, the extent and reasons thereof; and Governments have already sent their schemes to the Government of India and (c) whether the assistance is being NABARD. given as loan and if so, the amount of loan instalment and interest likely to be paid by Finance Minister had met Chief Minister India each year in foreign exchange? of different Sta13s. Some Chief Minister had also met the Prime Minister. The issue of THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. debt relief and burden on State Government MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). The budget was also discussed in the National indications of probable aid levels pointed to Development Council (NDC) in June, 1990 commitments level of U.S. $ 6.0-6.5 billion when Chief Ministers of the States were for 1990-91. This did not include pledges of present.· one donor country, which was to be announced later. In 1989-90. an indicative

\n Ya~ , '\ ~O t ~h\\e \o~atO\09 aCO?'I 0\ comm\tment \e~e\ 01 U.s. $ S.7 b\\\\on V4as the Scheme 1ormu\ateo by the Government announ~ed. On comparab\e basis, the aid of India, to the State Governments, it was indication this year are of the same level as suggested that the State Governments, may last year. draw up a scheme on the same pattern for COOperatives and implement the scheme (c) The details regarding the form of 47 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnSW81S 48 assistance i.e. loans and grants, the amount (3) Petlad- of repayment of principal and payment of interest will be detemined only after aid (4) Savarkundala Upgraded to negotiations are finalised with each donor 'C' class for agency. HRA. (5) Viramgam [English] (6) Visnagar Upgradation of Cities (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The cities of 705. SHRI BALWANT MANWAR: Will Jamnagar Bhavnagar and Rajkot in Gujarat the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: do not qualify for upgradation under the criterion mentioned in (a) above. Baroda (a) whether Government have upgraded (Vadodara) has since been upgraded as 48 cities for the purpose of Compensatory mentioned in (b) (ii) above. City Allowance recently; Opening of Branches of NABARO (b) if so, me number and details of cities upgraded in Gujarat: 706. SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA NARA- SIMHA RAJA WAIDYAR: Will the Minister of (c) whether repeated representations FINANCE be pleased to state: have been received by Government to up- grade Jamnagar Bhavnagar Baroda and (a) whether National Bank for Agricul- Rajkot cities of Gujarat; and ture and Rural Development had chalked out a programme for the expansion of its (d) if so, the reasons for not upgrading branches in each State; these cities during the recent upgradation? (b) if so, the number of branches set up THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE by the National Bank for Agriculture and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Rural Development (NABARD) in each State TRI): (a) Govt. have upgraded 48 cities for as on 30 June, 1990; the purpose of House Rent Aliowances (HRA)/CompensatoryCity Allowance (CCA). (c) whether one branch has been set up whose population fell short of the mark re- in each district headquarters and quired for upgradation to the next higher class by 10% as per 1981 census. Out of (d) the future programme of the NA· t"ese 48 cities, only 4 cities have been BARD with regard to expansion of its upgraded for the purpose of Compensatory branches in Karnataka during 1990-91? City Allowance. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) The following cities in Gujarat have MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- ben upgraded:- TRI): (a) to (d). National Bank for Agriculture and Rural Development (NABARD) has (i) Surat-upgraded to 'B-1' reported that it has chalked out a programme class for H.R.A. for opening of Distrid development Office in all the Distrids in phases in each State. The ii) Vadadora-upg aded to 'B-1' number of offices opened during the year class for both H.R.A. and C.C.A. 1989 (as on 30th June 1990) is 42 and 49 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 number of those being opened during 1990- 1990, NABARD has already opened 3 dis- 91 is tentatively 75. The Statewise position trict offices in Karnataka. It is expected to is given in the Statement below. NABARD open offices in 3 more districts during the has further reported that as on 30th June year 1990-91. 51 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 52

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[ Translation] deposits at present there;

Development of Tourism in Ajmer (c) the scheme of Government regard- (Rajasthan) ing utilisation of manganese;

707. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: (d) whether Manganese Ore of India Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to ltd. had prepared a scheme for the produc- state: tion of ferro manganese by making use of manganese, if so, the main features of this (a) whether Union Government have scheme; and received any specific proposals from Rajast- han Government for the development of (e) the steps taken by Government to tourism in Ajmer and also for its inclusion on exploit ferro manganese in Balaghat area of the tourist map dunng the current year: Madhya Pradesh?

(b) if so, the details thereof and the THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDM!NES action taken by Government thereon; and AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) if not, the time by which these proposals are likely to be cleared? (b) As per the mineral inventory prepared by Indian Bureau of Mines, Nagpur, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the total proven resources of manganese MIN ISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS are in the Balaghat district of M.P. as on AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- i. i .85 were about 62.72 lakh tonnes. TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) No, Sir. However. Ajmer is (c) Manganese Ore is utilised directly in already included as one of the tourist centres the production of pig iron and the form of in the three travel circuits identified for pro- ferro-managense/silico manganese in steel motion. mixing. In small quantities manganese diox- ide are is also used in the manufacture of dry batteries. Utilisation of manganese ore will (b) and (c). do not arise. increase with the growth of user industries.

(d) Manganese Ore (India) Limited had Exploitation of Manganese in Balaghat a proposal to set up a 60,000 tonnes per (M.P.) annum ferro manganese plant in Balaghat in 1982 at a total estimated cost of Rs. 44 crores. Due to decrease in the demand for 708. SHRI S.C. VERMA: Will the Min- ferro manganese in the world market and the ister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to resultant problems in marketing this pro- state: posal to set up a large scale plant was abandoned. (a) whether manganese is being mined for decades in Balaghat area of Madhya Pradesh and huge deposits of manganese (e) It is not proposed to set up any new ore are reserved there; ferro manganese plant in the area. Empha- sis is on improving the quality of ore already (b) if so, the quantity of manganese are being mined there. 57 Written Answers SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

[English] mate are awaited from the State Govern- ment. Development of Tourist Centre In Karnataka Number of Employees in AIR/Door- darhsan 709. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Will the Minister of TOUR ISM be pleased to 710. SHRI CHHAVIRAM ARGAL: Will state: the Minister of INFORMATION AND BRAOD- CAS TING be pleased to state: (a) whether Union Government have received any proposal from Karnataka (a) the total number of gazetted, non- Government for the development of tourist gazetted and class IV staff (Technical and centres; non-Technical) in AIR and T.V. stations including AIR and T.V. News readers/announc- (b) if so. the details thereof; and ers as on 30 June. 1990;

(c) the action taken thereon? (b) the total number out of them belonging to SC and ST category in ail categories: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFPARLlAMENTARY AFFAIRS (c) whether there is any shortfall in AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- filling the vacancies reserved for Scheduled TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Castes and Scheduled Tribes categories: MALIK): (a) to (c). In consultation with the and State Government of Karnataka. seven schemes have been prloritsed for the State (d) if so, the steps Government propose for the Year 1990-91 as follows:- to wipe of the shortfali?

1. Wayside facilities at Patadakal. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF 2. Wayside facilities, one each of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Hundung. Lomapur and Banavasi UPENDRA): (a) The total number of employees in All India Radio and Doordarshan 3. Additional accommodation and as on 30th June. 1990 is 39,539. tourist complex tat Hampi.

4. Trekking equipment/tented ac- (b) to (d). The recruitment to the various commodation. posts in All India Radio and Doordarshan is done through different recruiting agencies 5. Boats for Krishanraj Sagar and like Union Public Service Commission, Staff Tungbhadra Dam. Selection Commission & Employment Ex- change etc. on all-I~dia. zonal and local 6. Fishing huts at Bheemeshwari basis. As such, information relating to all Camp. categories of employees and shortfall in the reserved vacancies is not maintained on 7. Hili Cottages at Murudeshwara centralised basis. Shortfall, if any, in the and B.A. Hills. reserved vacancies have however, been taken into account in Special Recruitment However, projects with detailed esti- Drive launched by the Govt. 59 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 60

Credit Camp in Dhanbad of Left Hand Drive Cars being imported into the' Country; and 711. SHRI A.K. ROY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so. the measure contemplated to correct the situation? (a) whether a Credit Camp was organised in Dhanbad, Bihar in July, 1990; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- (b) if so, thedetailsthereof including the ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). Under names of the banks which organised the the present Import Policy for cars, an Indian credit Camp; citizen returning after a minimum stay abroad of 2 years can import a car provided it has (c) whether the Deputy Commissioner. been purchased by him at lease one year Dhanbad located irregularities in selecting prior to his return to India. Subject to this beneficiaries of loans; stipulation, either a Left-hand drive or a Right-hand drive car can be imported. (d) if so, the facts in this regard; and Campaign to Attract Tourists from the (e) the action taken by Government in Gulf Countries the matter? 713. SHRI B.N. REDDY: Will the Minis- THE DEPUTY MINISTER 'IN THE ter of TOURISM be pleased to state: MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) to (e). The commercial banks did (a) whether Government have launched not, on their own, organise any credit camp an extensive campaign to attract tourists at Dhanbad.~owever, at the instance of the from the Gulf countries; and Deputy Commissioner, Dhanbad, a credit camp was scheduled to be organised on July (b) if so, the details thereof? 10, 1990 for cases under the Self-Employ- ment for Educated Unemployed Youth THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (SEEUY) Scheme and the banks were also MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS asked to verify the status of each beneficiary AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- by the Deputy Commissioner, before pro- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL ceeding further with the sanctioning of loans MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. a beneficiaries. (b) Campaigns on the tourism potential Import of Cars by Indians Returning of the country are projected through the Home For Permanent Settlement electronic and print media. In addition, the Government of India Tourist Offices located 712. PROF. VIJAY KUMAR in the Gulf countries participate in vairous MALHOTRA: Will the Minister ot COM- Trade Fairs, Exhibitions and Festivals to MERCE be pleased to state: promote India. Brochure support to local Travel Agents for introducing and promoting packages to India is also extended. Journal- (a) whether changes made in the new ists and other media perslJnalities are also import policy regarding motor vehicles as identified and sent on familiarisaing tours of pertaining to Indians returning home for India in return for publicising the country as permanent settlement will result in a majority a tourist destination. 61 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answe"S 62

Borrowing from A.D.B. Programme In Regional Tribal Lail- guages

714. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will 716. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAi

(a) India's contribution to the Asian (a) the names of Ooordarshan Kendras Development Sank (A.D.S.) as on 31 March, telecasting programmes in regionalltribal 1990; and languages;

(b) the amount borrowed by India from (b) whether Government propose to A.D.S. as on that date?' telecast programmes in more regionalltribal languages and dialects dr. ring the Eighth THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Plan period; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- TRI): (a) $ 176.715 million (c) if so, the details ~nereof?

(b) The loan commitments from ADS as THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION on 31 st march, 1990 totalled to $ 1773.50 AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTEROF million, including equity/loans of $ 25.90 PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. million to private sector. UPENDRA): (a) A"the 19 Kendras functioning at preset in Doordarshan's network telecast programmes including those in regionall World Bank Assistance to A.P. tribal lang uages of the area concerned to the extent possible. The names of these Ken- 715. SHRI KALP NATH RAI: Will the dras are given below in the statement-I. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) and (c). 29 additional Programme (a) whether the World Bank is to pro- Production Centres under the Implementa- vide a special disaster reconstruction assis- tion at present as a part of the spill-over tance to Andhra Pradesh of the order of Rs. schemes from the VII Plan WOUld, on com- 2,000 crores: missioning. also telecast programmes in regional/tribal languages the names of such (b) whether Union Government agree addotional centres are given in ths State- to seek such loan assistance from the World ment-II below. As the allocation underthe VII Sank; and Plan has not so far been made to Ooor- darshan, it is not possible to indicate the (c) further action if any, taken regarding details of the new projects to be set up under the offer of the World bank? the VII Plan.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 5TATEMENT-I MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (c). No, Sir. Financing of a Name of Kendras Reconstruction project is being examined by the World bank. The size of the loan has not 1. Delhi yet been finalsed, but preliminary indications are that it could be about $ 200 million. 2. Bombay 63 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 64

3. Madras 6. Muzaffarpur

4. Calcutta 7. Daltonganj

5. Ahmedabad 8. Hissar

6. Jaipur 9. Shimla

7. Trivandrum 10. Jammu

8. Hyderabad 11. Gulbarga

9. Jalandhar 12. Bhopal

10. Bangalore 13. Raipur

11. Lucknow 14. Pune

12. Cuttack 15. Imphal

13. Srinagar 16. Shillong

14. Guwahati 17. Tura

15. Panaji 18. Kohima

16. Gorakhpur 19. Bhubaneshwar

17. Ranchi 20. Gangtok I

18. Rajkot 21. Madurai

19. Nagpur 22. Agartala

STATEMENT-II 23. Bareilly

Names of Programme Production 24. Allahabad Centres under implementation: 25. Siligurui 1. Vijaywada 26. Aizwat 2. Dibrugarh 27. Port Blair 3. Silchar

4. Itanagar 28. Chandigarh

5. Patna 29. Pondicherry 65 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

Modernisation of liSCO is under consideration.

718. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- Government are considering pre-quali- DAL: fied global tendering for the foreign pack- SHRI CHinA BASU: ages of the plant, equipment and services for the project to foster great-er competition Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES among reputed international and national be pleasea to state: suppliers of equipment and services. The approach is oriented towards reduction of (a) the progress made so far in the cost and foriegn exchange outflow and to revamping of the Indian Iron and Steel increase indigenous content. Company's (liSCO's) plant at Burnpur (West Bengal); Manufacture of Sponge Iron by MIs. Essar with Foreign Collaboration (b) whether Dasturco. Study commissioned by Goverrnment has since been 719. SHRI SHAILENDRA MAHATO: evaluated by the Department of Steel, if so, Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be there reading of the situation; pleased to state:

(c) whether the global tendering and (a) whether Mis. ESSAR has entered inviting of international bidding is at present into any foreign collaboration for manufac- under the consideration of Government; and ture of sponge iron;

(d) how far the delay caused in the (b) if so, the details thereof including ISSCO's modernisation has escalated its likely payment to the foreign collaborator cost and the considerations for not accept- and project cost and cost of production ing the Japanese aid? envisaged at reaching commercial production; THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (c) whether ESSAR has been allowed (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) to (d). hundred per cent export oriented project for MS'dernisation of the Burnpur works of the manufactures of sponge iron; and IndIan Iron and Steel Company Limited (liSCO) stands approved in principle. Be- (d) if so, the details thereof? cause of the very high project costs with poor rates of return in the project report by the THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES Japdnese Consulting Companies, Govt. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE sought a second professional opinion on the (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Ye, Sir. approach to the modernisation investment including, inter-alia, possibilities of cost re- (b) MIs. ESSAR entered into a foreign duction, utilisation of existing facilities, an collaboration with Mis. Voest Alpine of Aus- enlarged role for indigenous agencies and tria for putting up a sponge iron plant at greater competition for supplies and serv- Hazira in Gujarat. This plant has already ices for the project. The report submitted by started production. The details are given MIs. M.N. Dastur and Company has been below: examined in consultant with the Steel Au- thority of India Limited (SAIL). A revised i) Foreign Collaboration Fee:-Gov- investment proposal has been prepared and ernment had approved payment of 67 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 68

46.3 million OM towards design, " (c) whether the income from some engineering, consultancy, know- other occupations is also exempted for In- how, supervision, etc. come-tax; and

ii) Project Cost:- The project cost as (d) if so, the details thereof? reported by the Company is Rs. 375 crores. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- iii) Cost of Production:- The produc- TR1): (a) and (b). The taxation of agricultural tion cost as intimated by the com- income is a state subject under the Constitu- pany is around Rs. 4,620/-pertonne tion. It is, therefore, outside the purview of of hot briquitted sponge iron. taxation by Central Government. Hence agricultural income is exempt from income- (c) No, Sir. tax, which is a levy by the Central Govern- ment. (d) Does not arise. (c) and (d). Income from various other Tourist Office in Hilly Areas of U.P. sources is also exempt from income-tax either partially or wholly. These sources 720. SHRI M.S PAL: Will the Minister of include earnings from exports, interest from TOURISM be pleased to state: certain specified sources, earnings in foreign exchange and income from poultry farm- (a) whether these is any proposal to set ing. up a tourist office in the hilly areas of Uttar Pradesh; Self sufficiency in coins

(b) if so, the time by which it will be set 722. SHRI D. AMAT: Willthe Ministerof up; and FINANCE be pleased to state:

(c) the location thereof? (a) the quantum/value ot production of coins in the Government Mints in the years THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1987-88, 1988-89 and 1989-90; MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- (b) the extent of import of coins (Value- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL wise and denomination-wise) during the last MALIK): (a) No, Sir. three years, if any, and the reasons thereof; (c) whether Government Mints are now (b) and (c). Does not arise. geared-up to produce sufficient quantity of coins to meet circulation needs; and Non-Taxation of Agr"icultural Income (d) if not, the steps being take in this 721. SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAL: Will regard? the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (a) whether agricultural income in tax- TRI): (a) The quantumlvalue of production able: of coins in the government Mints in the years 1987-88, 1988-89 and 1989-90 were as (b) if not, the reasons therefor; under: 69 Written Answers SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

Production (in million pieces) Value (in million Rupees)

1 2 3

1987-88 2945 1060

1988-89 3183 1085

1989-90 2844 1387

(b) During the above period 1250 mil- cost of Rs. 17.09 crores in the foilowing lion pieces of stainless steel coins at a total denominations were imported:-

Denomination Quality (in million pieces)

50 Paise 300

20 Paise 400

10 Paise 550

The coins were imported to implement (b) the number of cases which are still Government's decision to introduce stain- pending disposal? less steel coins in the denominations of 50 paise, 25 paise and 10 paise. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (c) Yes, Sir. TRI): (a) and (b). A very large number of representations and other communications (d) Does not arise. from serving and retired Government servants, general public, Members of Parlia- [ Translation] ment etc. addressed to the Minister of Fi- nance are received every day. These com- Redressal of Public Grievances munications are processed in the respective sections of the various Departments under 723. SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR the Ministry of Finance which are concerned MAHALE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be with the subject matter. Communications in pleased to state: which issues not concerning the Ministry of Finance raised are passed on to the Minis- (a) the number of petitions for redressal tries concerned for appropriate action. h is of grievances received by him from general ensured that suitable action on various public since December, 1989 and the num- communications addressed to the Minister ber of those disposed of; and of Finance/Ministry of Finance is taken as 71 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 72

expeditiously as possible. No separate rec- (a) whether Government have decided ord is maintained of such communications to curtail foreign tours of VIPs; from the general public. (b) if so, the details thereof; [English} (c) the expenditure incurred by different Expenditure Incurred on Renovation! Ministries on foreign tours of VIPs during the Furnishing Rooms In Hotels used as last three years: and Residences by ITOe Executives (d) the specific areas for which foreign 724. SHRI ASHOK ANANDRAO tours will be permitted under the new guide- DESHMUKH: Will the Minister of TOURISM lines? be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) the mount incurred on renovation! MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- furnishing of the residences of ITDC Execu- TRI): (a) and (b). Instructions have been tives in each of the ITDC's Hotel propel1ies issued that expenditure on foreign travel in during the last three years: and various Ministries/Departments should be limited to 75% of the actual expenditure in (b) what would have been the incomeof 1989-90 or the current year's budget provi- India Tourism Development Corporation sion, whichever is less. (ITDC) if the rooms/hotels accommodation occupied by the ITDC Executives as their (c) The information is not readily avail- residences would have been rented out to able and will have to be collected from all the customers on tariff rates in each hotel? Ministries/Departments of the Govt. of India. Col/ection of this information will involve THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE considerable time and labour and the result MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS to be achieved will not be commensurate AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- with the time and labour involved in the TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL collecting the information. MALIK): (a) No separate expenditure has been booked on this account. (0) Foreign tours will be allowed only

when these are inescapable. 9 (b) The rooms lor residential purposes have been provided to the hotel executives Honouring of Letters of Credit by as per general practice of the trade. How- Banks ever, the occupancy of lettable rooms in ITDC hotels has been less than 100%. As 726. SHRI J.P. AGARWAL: Will the such there would have been no additional Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: net income on account of these rooms, if made available to guests. (a) whether Government have received complaints for not honouring letters of credit Curtailment of Foreign Tours of VIPs. by banks for loans during the current year (so tar); and

725. SHRI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) it so, the corrective measures Gov- state: ernment proposed to take in this regard? 73 Written Answers SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE for overdraft facilities for the coffee growers; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHR I AN IL SHAS- TRI): (a) Reserve bank of India and Govern- (b) whether there is any proposal to ment have received a few such complaints. reduce it; and

(b) Such complaints are examined and (c) if so, the details thereof? appropriate remedial action is taken. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Overdraft Facilities for Coffee Growers TRI): (a) to (c). Coffee Growers who come under the purview of priority sector guide- 727. SHRIB. RAJARAVI VARMA: Will lines are eligible for concessional rate of the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: interest as applicable to advances for short- term agricultural purposes which are as fol- (a) the interest rate levied by the banks lows:

Short-term loans to farmers Rate of interest (% per annum)

a) Upto Rs. 7.500/- 10.00

b) Over Rs. 7,500/- and upto Rs. 15,000/- 11.50

c) Over Rs. 15,000/- and upto Rs. 25,0001- 12.00

d) Over Rs. 25,0001- 15.50

To the extent there are coffee growers Export of Iron Ore outside the priority sector (mainly planta- tions). overdraft facilities provided by scheduled commercial banks are at an interest 728. SHRI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI: rate of 16.0 per cent (minimum) without any Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased ceiling stipulation. to state:

(a) whether the export of iron ore has The current prescriptions relating to increased during 1989-90; interest rates are considered appropriate at this stage. The rate structure remains how- (b) if so, to what extent it has increased ever under constant review of Reserve Bank as compared to the previous year; of india and changes as appropriate are introduced wheneverconsidered necessary. (c) whether Government propose to 75 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnswelS 76 further increase the e·xport of iron are n June 1990. 1049 kgs. (provisional) of heroin 1990-91; and have also been seized by ·the various En- forcement agencies throughout the country (d) if so, the target set therefor? during the above period. No precise value of herione can be estimated since it depends THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on its purity, place of origin etc. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI· AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) Anti-Smuggling drive has been intensified and the anti-smuggling machinery (b) 33.7 million tonnes of iron are is particularly in the vulnerable areas of sea estimated to have been exported during coast, lanQ borders and the international 1989-90, showing a 1.5% increase in quan- seaports and airports remain alert to check tity terms as compared to 1988-89. and combat smuggling and contraband. Sophisticated equipment such as: X-ray (c) and (d). The exports of iron are baggage machinery and metal detectors and during 1990-91 is likely to be almost of the being increasingly utilized. Close co-ordina- same level as that of 1989-90. tion is maintained with all the agencies concerned in the prevention and detection of Checking Smuggling Activities smuggling.

730. SHRI BALGOPAL MISHRA: Will Mining Survey in Goa the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 731. SHRI GOPALRAO MAYEKAR: (a) whether the smuggling activities Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be have been increase during the last six pleased to state: months; (a) whether the Government/National (b) the details of articles including brown Mineral Development Corporation has un- sugar seized form smugglers during the last dertaken exploration work for finding 'miner- six months; and als in Goa; and

(c) the effective steps Government (b) if so, the details thereof? propose to take to prevent smuggling activities? THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) National MINISTRY OFFINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Mineral Development Corporation has not TRI): (a) and (b). It is not possible to say under taken any exploration work. Geologi- whether smuggling activities have increased cal Survey of India has been conducting during the last six months. However, contra- exploration work for minerals in Goa as a band such as gold, silver, synthetic fabrics, continuous process since long. electronic goods etc. worth Rs. 3-1~.22crores (provisional) have been. seized by the Cus- (b) As aresult ofthe exploration work by toms auth~rities throughout the country GSI, the following reserves have been es- during the last six months form January to t~blished in selected areas of Goa:- n Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

i) Haematite Ore 1060 rriillion tonnes

ii) Magnetite Ore 143 million tonnes

iii) Bauxite 10 million tonnes

iv) Manganese Ore 2.6 million tonnes

Diamond Smuggling in Bombay 5. Mohammed Karim Kazi alias Iqbal Abdullah Memon 732. SHRI VASANT SATHE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 6. Ahmed Farook

(a) whether smuggling of diamond from 7. Ahaskan Bombay has increased significantly during recent past; (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. On31st May, 1990, one Shri M.M. Parekh of Mis Inter Gold India, (b) if so, the names of the parties caught SEEPZ, Ahdheri was apprehended while in smuggling of diamonds and value of dta- attempting to surreptitiously remove diamonds seized; monds worth As. 1.03 crores approximately from SEEPZ, Bombay. (c) whether Gove,rnment have tightened vigilance on the activities of diamond Nexus Between LTTE and Smugglers in exporters in SEEPZ, Bombay; and Coastal Tamil Nadu

(d) the results thereof? 733. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWMAY: Will the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANIL SHAS- (a) whether there is a nexus between TRI): (a) and (b). It is not possible to say Liberation Tigers of TamH Elam (L1TTE) and whether the smuggling of diamonds from smugglers doing brisk business in coastal Bombay has increased significantly during Tamil Nadu; the recent past. However, the customs, au- thorit" 3S of Bombay have seized diamonds (b) if so, the details thereof; and worth Rs. 3.28 crores approximately during 1990 and the names of the persons allegedly (c) the action Government propose to involved are given below:- take to stop smug9 ling in the coastal areas of Tamil Nadu? 1. Asif Jaliwala THE DEFUTY MINISTER IN THE 2. M.M. Parekh MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Available reports indicate 3. Prakash Mehta that some smugglers operating on the Tan- jore coast are abetting Srilankan militants in 4. Abdu\ Rasheed Abdu\ Kadar their activities. However, no direct evidence Memon· revealing such a nexus ttas come to notice. 79 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 80

(c) The Customs authorities remain devoted to the telecast of commercial adver- vigilant against smuggling activities on the tisements has not, how-ever, progressively Tamil Nadu roast.· Close co-ordination is increased during the last three years and being maintained between all the agencies continues to be around 2.5 per cent as concerned with the detection and prevention against the ceiling of 10 per cent prescribed of smuggling on this coast. Active assis- for the purpose. tance of the Coast Guard, the Navy and the State Police is also being taken. (d) No. Sir. The duration of a pro- . gramme is not curtailed to accommodate [ Trans/ation] advertisements.

Number of Advertisements Shown on [English] Television Developm~nt of Tourism in Kerala 734. SHRI SUKHENDRA SINGH: SHRI SURESH KIDOKKUN- 735. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the NIL: Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state:

Will the Ministerof INFORMATION AND (a) whether foreign nationals are al- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: lowed to invest in India for the development of tourism; (a) whether the number of advertisements being shown on Televis:on has con- (b) if so, the details in this regard; tinuously increase during the last three years; (c) whether publicity is given about the (b) the numberof advertisements shown India tourist centres in foreign countries; and during the last three years, year-wise; (d) if so, the details thereof, particularly (c) the total time taken by these adver- about the pUblicity given to pilgrim centers in tisements out of the total time of telecast Kerala like Thekkady, Manner Erumely, annually; and Sabarimala, Kaldy, Bharannanganam, Ponmudy and Guruvayoor? (d) whether popular programmes have been affected because of excess of adver- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tisements due to which their duration had to MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS be curtailed? AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION MALIK): (a) and (b). Foreign nationals are AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF allowed equity participation in hotel industry PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. in India. UPENDRA): (a) to (c). As the advertisements are telecast from different Kendras (c) Yes, Sir. and involve substantial numbers over a period of time, the labour involved in culling out (d) Tourist centres in India, including information about the precise number of Thekkady, Sabarimala, Kalady, Ponmudy advertisements telecast over last three years and guruvayoor and Kerala are being given may not be commensurate with the resu\\s pub\icity thmugh print and e\ectron\c media sought to be achieved. The overa\\ time \0 the overseas markets. 81 i Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

Modernisation of D.S.P. Officers' Promotion Policy In Public Sector Banks 736. SHRI AMAL DAnA; Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased 737. DR. P. VALlAL PERUMAN: Will to state: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:

(a) the value of orders placed on Man- (a) whether Public Sector Banks have nesman Demag of West German and Birla been directed by Government to suitably Technical Services Ltd. of Calcutta in rese- amend their officers' promotion policy and lect of modernisation programme of the incorporate the clause of 'Zone of Consid- Durgapur Steel Plant; and eration' benefiting the SC/ST candidates for promotions within officers' cadre; (9) the details of the item-wise list of the work which the above two companies are (b) whether these banks has imple- required to do in respect of the modernisa- mented the'said clause; tion of Durgapur Steel Plant? (c) if so, the names of the banks which THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES have implemented the clause; and AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The value (d) if not, the reasons therefor and the of orders place don MIs. Mannesman De- steps taken by Government for implementa- mag of West Germany and MIs. Birla T ech- tion of said clause to protect the interests of nical Services are for Rs. 309.61 Crores and SC/ST candidates? Rs. 461.60 crores respectively. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOFFINANCE{SHRIANILSHAS- (b) MIs. Mannesman Demag. West TRI): (a) No, Sir. Germany as leader of the cosnortia for Raw Material Handling Package and Basic Oxy- (b) to (d). Does not arise. gen Furnace Package is responsible for basic engineering, design and engineering [ Trans/ation] of imported equipment (except Tiajprom export of USSR portion). supply of imported Branches of Mithila Kshetriya Gramin equipment. supervision formance guaran- Bank and Madhubani Kshetriya Gramin tee. As a leader. MDH is responsible for Bank integration, interfacing and coordination of all activities for completion of the packages within the stipulated time and cost. 738. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:

As a member of the consortium m/~ (a) the total number of branches of Birla Technical Services undertake Projec.t Mithila Kshetriya Gramin Bank, Darbhanga Management work, Basic and Detailed and Madhubani Kshetriya Gramin Bank, engineering for indegenous equipment. Madhubani and the occasions thereof; supply of indigenous equipment, port handling and port clearance for imparted sup- (b) the locations where Government plies, inland transportation for imported and propose to open new branches of these indigenous supp\ies. bank.s; 83 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 84

(c) the amount of loans advanced to in Darbhanga and Madhubani Districts of poor villagers by these qanks during the last Bihar respectively .. Locations ot these three years; branches are indicated in the Statement below. (d) whether it is proposed to provide loans through these banks for self employ- (b) The branch expansion programme ment and productive activities to cottage for 1985-90 has come to an end on 31 .3.1990. industries and small scale industries etc. in The guidelines for the ensuing branch ex- rural areas; and pansion policy are being finalised by the Reserve Bank of India. It will not be possible (e) if so, the details in this regard and if at this stage to indicate the locations where not, the reasons therefor? the new branches of these banks would be opened. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (c) The total outstanding credit in re- TRI): (a) 79 branches of Mithila Kshetriya spect of these two banks as at the end of the Gramin Bank and 89 branches of Madhu- March, 1989 (latest date available) is as bani Kshetriya Gramin Bank are functioning follows:-

(Rupees in /akhs)

June 1987 June 1988 March 1989

2 3

Madhubani Kshetriya Gramin Bank 1460.33 1694.43 1997.31

Mithila Kshetriya Gramin Bank 1190.41 1492.46 1707.23

(d) and (e). The banks are required to Mithila Kshetriya Gramin Bank provide loans for self-employment schemes in small scale industries sector as per the District Darbhanga gu\de\\oes \ssued \0 th\s regard b'y the Re- serve Bank o~ lndia and National Bank for Alinagar, Andama, Baghant, Baghrasi, Agricutlural and rural Development (NA- Bahera, Bajitpur, Barh Samil, Bauram, Ber, BARD). Any cases that come to light regard- Bhalpatti, Biroul, Bishanpur, Bithauli, Cha- ing violation ofthese instruction share inves- nour, Chhotaipatti, Dekuli, Doghar, DuJarur, tigated and suitable corrective action taken. Ganayum, Habidih, Hariharpur Haripur, Hathauri, Hirauli, Hirni, Jagarnathpur, Ja- STATEMENT malpur, Jayantipur Oath, Jorja, Kabirchak, Kahua, Kaligaon, Karjapatti, Kasraur, Korthu, Names of branches of Mithila Kshetriya Lagama, Machaita, Madhopur, Mahinam, Gramin Bank in Darbhanga Ojstrict and Majhoulia, Makaranda, Maon Behat, Mo- Madhubani Kshetriya Gramin Bank in Madhu- hammdpur, More, Muraitha, Muria, Nawada, bani District Nimaithi, Parari, Parari Jaideopatti, Pathra, 85 Written Ans wers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 86

Patro, Pathori, Pokhrarn, Putai, Raathopur, (b) how manyofthem are individually or Raiyarn, Rarhi, Rasiarj, Ratanpur, Sajhuar, jointly promoted by the Non-Resident Indi- Sarhwara, Shi:lhpur, Shivnagar ans;and Shivnagarghat, Sirnri, Siso, Sonki, Subhakar- pur, Suhraeen, Surachachatti, Taralahi, (c) the basic norms to grant letters of Tarauni, Thalwara, Thathopur, Turnoul. intent for such projects? Ughra, Ujaina, Ujan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Madhubani Kshetriya Gramin Bank MINISTRYOFPARUAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- District Mdhubani TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) The Government does not issue Andharamath, Araria Sasgrarn, Aunsi, letters of intent for the construction of tourist Balia, Barha, Barhara, Basaitha, Basuari. complexes and Holiday/Sea resorts. Bela, Belauncha. Belha, Belhwar Bennipatti, Bhariabsthan. Bhatcharura. Bhatsiar Bhaur. (b) and (c). Does not arise. Bhawnipur, Bheja, Bhith Bhagwanpur, Bhupatti. Birpur. Birsair, Bisanpur, Borhar, Consumption of Petrol and Petroleum Chatra, Charapatti, Chikua, Dahibhat Mad- Products by Government Offices hopur, Deep, Dhakjari. Dullipatti, Ekhatha, Gajhara, Ganauli, Garatol. Haripur, Hari- 740. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: lakhi. Hathiyahi, Heropatti. Jhanjharpur. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Jyoth, Kakraul, Kalikapur, Kalna, Kamlabari state: Kapasia. Karhi, Khajedhi, Khirhar, Koilakh, Lanat Lukhnuar, Madhepur, Madhubani, (a) whether Government have deCided Madua, Mahadeomath, Maheshwarwa, to enforce a 20 per cent reduction of· petrol Mahinathpur, Mahrail, Manmohan, Narahia, and petroleum products by Central and State Narar. Padma, Paitghat, Pali, Pariharpur, Governments and public sector vehicles; Parsahi, Parasauni, Phulparas, Piprahi, Pi- rokhar, Raghauli, Raja Rampatt;, Rampatti, (b) if so, the stes taken to achieve the Rudrapur, Saharghat, Simra, Simri, Sing- desired cut in consumption; and haso, Siswar, Sug3una, Suggapatti, Suki, Tamuria. Taardiha, Thahar. Uchaith, Usrahi (c) the steps Government have taken to Deodha. rationalised and curtail the use of vehicles by the staff attach ad to Ministers in the' C&ntral iEnglish) and State Governments'?

letter of Intents for Tourist Complexes THE DEPUTY MINISTER' IN THE MIN:STRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- 739. SHRI VAMANRAO MAHADIK: TRI): (a) and (b). Instructions have been Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to issued that all Central Government Depart- state: ments and Public Sector Udnetakings from 1990-91 should reduce their consumption of petrol and diesel by 20% over the consump- (a) the number of letters of intent for tion during the year 1989-90. These Depart- tourist complexes and holiday resorts on the ments/Public Sector Undertakigs have been coast and sea resorts sanctioned by Gov- advised to evolve suitable modalities to ernment during the last six months: monitor the compliance of these instruci- 87 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 88 tons. State Goverments have also been States of the country. The Head Office of advise<. to take appropriate steps for reduc- SIOBI was inqugurated by the Prime Minis- ing petrol consumption. ter on April 28, 1990 and is already functioning at Lucknow. To start with it has opened (c\ Types of journeys for which staff one office in each State as also in Union cars can be used by the staff attached to the Territories of Delhi and Pondicherry. The Ministers in the Central Government are Office. of SIDBI in Maharashtra is located at specified in t"e Staff Car Rules. In addition, Nariman Bhavan, 227, Vinay K. Shah Marg, instructions have been issued that the total Nariman Point, Bombay. hs regional Office consumption of petrol in the cars used by the for the Western Region is also located at Ministers and their personal staff should not Bombay. exceed the prescribed limit. Government has not receiveu any rep- Small Industry Development Bank of resentation for setting up office of the SIDBI India at Nagpur.

742. SHRI.SUOAM OATTATRYA Illegal Sale of Narcotics DESHMUKH: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleaseci tv state: 743. SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (a) the date on which the Small Indus- state: tries Development Bank of India (SIOBI) started functioning and the location of its (a) whether illegal sale and consump- Headquartf$(s; tion of narcotics have increased during the last six months; (b) whether Government had received representati(;, IS for setting up Office of the (b) if so, the reasons thereof; SIOBI at Nagpur for benefiting SSls of less developed regions. if so, the action taken (c) the number of raids conducted on thereon; the dealers of narcotics during the last six months; (c) the locations of branches of the SIDBI in Maharashtra; and (d) . whether any effective states have been taken to check this illegal sale; and (d) the location of branches of the SIDBI. if any, proposed to be set up in the (e) if so, the details thereof? State and by when'? THE DEPUTY· MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- MINISTRY OF FINA~CE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). No such increase is dis- TRI): (a) to (d). The Small Industries Devel- cernible from the comparative figures of opment Bank of India (SIDBI) started func- seizures during the corresponding periods tioning from April 2, 1990 with five Regional of 1989 and 1990, as cited below. These are Offices and 20 Branch Offices in different the only available indicators. 89 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answt->fS 90

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(c) The number of cases given above MAKKASAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE reflects the reported number of successful raids. be pleased to state:

(d) and (e). Government have taken (a) the names of cities in the country various steps which inter-alia, include; provision of preventive detention for illicit traffick- which have been declared as '8-2' class ers and forfeture of property acquired by cities during the last three years; and :frug trafficking; provision of deterrent pun- 'shment to drug traffickers including death sentence on second conviction under cer- (b) the number of cities recommended tain circumstances; strengthening of pre- by Rajasthan Government to be declared as lIentive machinery (especially around the '8-2' class cities and the action taken by ::>orders and vulnerable areas); adoption of a iberalised reward scheme as incentive for Union Government so far in this regard? )fficers and informers, etc. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Translation] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Declaration of 'B-2' Class Cities in TRI): (a) The following cities have been Rajasthan upgraded as '8-2' class cities during the last three years; since August, 1987:- 744. SHRI SHOPAT SINGH

(1) Guwajati

(2) Guntur for the purpose of both HRA & CCA.

(3) Gorakhpur

(4) Chandigarh for the purpose of HRA only. (5) Ajmer

"(6) Thane for the purpose of CCA only.

(b) According to available information, (a) whether Government had made an ne Government of Rajasthan in a communi- announcement in Parliament that additional ation dated 16.1.90 addressed to the Min- Excise duty levied on man made cloth like ~try of Urban Development requested for re- cotton cloth shall be levied on yarn instead of :Iassification of Bikaner as a '8-2' city for cloth; Irant ,tor HRA/CCA to Central Government ·mployees. The proposal could not be agreed (b) if so, the steps taken by Government ), as Bikaner does not qualify for classifica- so far in this regard~ and on as 'B-2 city as per existing criteria laid lown for this purpose. (c) when Government's decision in this regard is likely to implemented? Duty on Ma n Made Cloth

745. SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABllDAS THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ,ANA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- leased to state: TRI): (a) Finance Minister in h'is speech 93 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 while presenting the Budget for 199-91 had TAl): (a) Shipping Credit & Investment Co. observed as under:- of India Limited (SCICI) has reported that as designated person of the Central Govern- "There is a growing concern about the ment, and 'Under Section 9 of the Shipping plight of the handloom weaver. It is widely Development Fund Committee (Abolition) believed that one of the main causes of the Act. 1986, SCICI has appointed receiver in distress is the neutralisation of the tax con- respect of vessels belonging to 6 trawler cessions given to this sector by wide-spread owner companies assisted by erstwhile tax evasion at the processing stage. There is SDFC. thus a near unanimous view in favour of transferring the excise duty from fabrics to (b) Till date, of the 6 trawler owner yarn, which I share. However, in the case of companies the receiver has taken posses- man-made fabrics, the entire duty is by way sion of 5 vessels belonging to 3 companies. of additional excise duty in lieu of sales tax. Therefore, any change in the duty structure (c) Due to the industrial relations situ- can be made only in consultation with the ation including the crew agitation, non-clear- States. I propose to consult the Chief Minis- ance of the outstanding port dues the ves- ters shortly in this regard." sels mentioned in part (b) have not been operative. Consequently there has not been (b) and (c). As mentioned in the Budget any sales turnover from the vessels after speech, it is proposed ~o discuss the issue in they were taken over by the receiver. a conference of Chief Ministers. [ Translation] [English] Increase of Transmission Range of Taking Over Trawler Owner's Compa- Doordarshan in Rajasthan nies 747. SHRJ NANDLAL MEENA: Will the 746. SHRI PIYARELAL HANDOO: Will Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: CASTING be pleased to state:

(a) the number of trawler-owners' (a) whether Government propose to companies to whom notices were issued to extend the transmission range of existing show cause against their take over in terms Doordarshan Kendras in tribal areas of Ra- of Section 9 of the Shipping Development jasthan such as Udaipur. Doongarpur, Ban- Fund Committee (Abolition) Act of 1986 as swara and Mandasaur; amended during the period, from 1st Janu- ary,1989; (b) if so, the action taken so far in this regard; and (b) the number of companies out of these which have actually been taken over; (c) the plan of Government to ensure and that maximum people of tribal areas of Ra- jasthan are benefited by it? (c) the turnover of these companies after such take over? THE MIN ISTEA OF INFORMATION ANO BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. MIN ISTAY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- UPENDRA): (a) to (c). There is no approved 95 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 96 scheme, at preset, to augment the power of (d) Does not arise. low power (100 W) TV transmitters functioning at Udaipur, Dungarpur and Banswara in Income to Doordarshan From Ramay- Rajasthan and at Mandsaur in Madhya ana and Mahabharata Pradesh. However, the transm.itter at Ban- swara is envisaged to be isnstan9d on a 100 749. SHRI GULAS CHAND KATARIA: metre high tower at an a"lternative site which Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND is expected to result in improvement in its BROADCASTING be pleased to state: the coverage range. It is the constant endeavour total income to Doordarshan trom the serials of Government to expand the TV network of Ramayan and Mahabharat separately? especially in tribal areas, as expeditiously as possible, but this can be undertaken only in THE MINISTER OF tNFORMATION a phased manner depending upon the availa- AND BROADCASTING AND:MINISTER OF bility of resources for this purpose. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): The gross commercial revenue [English) earned by Doordarshan from the telecast of each of the two serials was as :under:- Visit of Chinese Min ister Ramayana...... Rs. 25.75 crores 748. SHRI R.M. RAKESH: SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA Mahabharata...... Rs. 59.75 crores. GAVIT: Export of Fresh Fruits Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: 750. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: (a) whether the Chinese Minister for Metallurgy visited India during th~ month of (a) whether mangoes and other fresh June, 1990; fruits are being exported;

(b) if so, the outcome of the discussion (b) if so, the names of countries along held with him by the Indian leaders; with the quantity exported since April 1990 and the amount of foreign exchange earned (c) whether any agreement was also therefrom; signed during his visit; and (c) whether any subsidy or cash assis- (d) if so, the broad outlines of the tance is given to the exporters of such pro- agreement? duce;and

THE MINISTER QF STEEL AND MINES (d) if so, the details thereof? AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRt DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- (b) The discussions related to pros- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. pects of increasing trade between the two countries in the field of Metallurgy. "(b)" Mangoes and other fresh fruits are mainly exported to UAE, Saudi Arabia, (c) No, Sir. Bahrain, UK and Bangaladesh. The quantity 97 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

exported and the foreign exchange earned below:-

thereform in April & May I 199t> are given

April. 1990 May. 1990

qty. Foreign exchange Oty. Foreign exchange earned. earned.

(MT) (Rs.Lakhs) (MT) (Rs./Lakhs)

(Prov.) (Prov.) (Prov.) (Prov.)

Mangoes 1600 365 2100 490

Other fr.uits 2880 325 635 99

(SOURCE: APEDA, NEW DELHI)

(c) and (d). Cash compensatory sup- sible to indicate the details of the TV projects port at the rate of 22% is allowed on export to be set up in the State under the VIII Plan. of fresh fruits by air and at the rate of 10% on export by sea. Reduction in Government Expenditure

New T.V. Relay Centres in Orissa 753. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA; Will the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: 752. SHRI RAVI NARAYAN PANJ: Will thtf Ministerof INFORMATION AND BROAD- (a) whether Government have taken CASITING be pleased to state: any decision to reduce governmental expenditure; (a) whether Government propose to set up new T. V., Relay Centres in Orissa; and (b) if so, the details of the economy measures so decided; (b) if so, the details thereof and the time by which these relay centres would be (c) the expected amount of reduction in started? governmental expenditure consequent to such measures; THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (d) whether particular heads of govern- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. mental expenditure have been identified for UPENDRA): (a) and (b). A high power (10 reductionor only broad reduction has been KW) TV transmitter under implementation at sought; Bhawanipatna as a part of the spill-over scheme from the 7th Plan is envisaged to be (e) the basis on which particular items commissioned into service during the cur- of Governmental expenditure have been rent financial year. However, the VII' Plan· identified; allocation not having been made by the Planning Commission so far. it is not pos- (f) whether the obejective of the econ- 99 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 100 omy measure is to further reduce the budg- . (a) the progress made in recovery of etary deficit or to restrict escalations of the Customs duty under the order of Collector of budgetary deficit; Customs, Madras dated 12th February, 1990 of about Rs. 3.4 crores leviable on the fodder (g) the impact of the running of govern- machines, in respect of Mis Sanjeevani mental expenditure on the economy of the Fodder Production (P) Ltd. on account of country; and provisions of Customs Act, 1942; and

(h) whether the economy measures (b) the amounts of penalty proposed to would effect the strength of Government be imposed on the concerned firms and staff and if so, steps taken to protect the persons and the numberof fodder machines interest of the personnel? likely to be confiscated?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY M!NISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHR! ANILSHAS- TRI): (a) to (f). Government would like to TRI): (a) and (b). In this case, show-cause ensure that the budget deficit in the current notice was issued on 12th February, 1990 year's Budget is not exceeded. With this in for the recovery of Customs duty of about view, certain measures have been taken to Rs. 3.4 crores leviable on the fodder produc- control expenditure. Ministries/Departments ing machines imported by Mis Sanjeevani have been asked to absorb additional ex- Fodder Production (P) Ltd. and the confisca- penditure on DA instalments during the cur- tion of the machines as well as imposition of rent year within the sanctioned budget grant. penalty on the concerned firms/persons. The A cut has been imposed on the foreign travel case is under adjudication in quasi-judicial budget and on petrol consumption. Several proceedings before the Collector of Cus- overseas offices have been wound up. A toms, Madras. The quantum of penalty to be review of the activities of Government De- imposed on each of the concerned persons/ partments is being earned out. firms and the confiscation of the mach'ines is the discretion of the adjudicating auttlority. (g) Containment of growth of non-de- velopmental expenditure is expected to ease Development of Religious Places as the pressure on prices as well as the balance Tourist Centres rn Karnataka of payment position. 755. SHRI H,C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will (h) the economy measures do not the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to envisage any immediate effect on the strength state: of Government staff. (a) whether the Karnataka Government has submitted any proposal to develop Se- Recovery of Customs Duty leviable on fur, Halebid and Shravanablagola temples Fodder Machines as tourist centres with Japanese assistance;

754. SHRI SHANKERSINH (b) if so, the amount of assistance VAGHELA: sought for in this regard; and SHRI PYARELAL KHANDEL- WAL: (c) the action taken by Union Govern- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased ment to get Japanese assistance to develop to state: these places as tourist centres? 101 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions (FIEO). MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS AND MIN ISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN IS- [Translation] TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) to (c). A proposal of Govern- Irregularities in Delhi Financial Corpo- ment of Karnataka to deveiop tourism infra- ration structure at different centres of the State, was fielded for Japanese assistance. The 757. SHRI MITRASEN YADAV: Will OECF Mission of Japan appraised the proj- the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: ect and have suggested for remodification of the proposals, which the OECF may con- (a) whether Government have received sider during 1991 funding programme. complaints alleging violation of norms and Necessary revision/modification of project procedures in sanction, disbursement and proposals are being carried out by the State recovery of loans even by the senior officers Government of Kamataka. of the Delhi Financial Corporation;

Registration of Exporting Companies (b) whether, in view of the serious with FIEO allegations involving senior officers themselves, Government propose to conduct an 756. SHRI RUPCHAND P ,L\.L: Wili the enquiry into these allegations through the Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: C.B.!.; and

(a) whether Government have received (c) if so, when and if not, the reasons any representation from the exporting com- therefor? munity regarding the difficulties being faced by them as a result of the import and Export THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Policy requirement to compu!sorily register MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- themselves with Federation of India Export TRI): (a) to (c). The Staff Association of Delhi Organisation (FlEa) for exports of more Financial Corporation had sent representa- than 10 lakhs annually: and tions to various authorities including Delhi Administration alleging that senior officers of (b) if so, the reaction of Government the Corporation were involved in sanction, thereto? disbursement and recovery of loans in violation of norms and procedures of the Corpo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ration. Irregularities and malpractices were MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- also referred to in certain press reports. ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. These were inquired into by the Chairman and Managing Director of Delhi Financial (b) The relevant provisions of registra- Corporation and reported to the Delhi Ad- tion with the Export Promotion Councils/ ministration. The charges were found to be Commodity Boards have since been not substantiated. amended. An exporter of multiple products whose f.o.b. value of exports in the preced- SC/ST Employees in Public Sector ing licensing year is more than Rs. 10 lakhs, Steel Plants now has an option to get registration with each of the concerned export promotion 758. SHRI RESHAM LAL JANGDE: councils/Commodity Boards. In such a case, SHRI D. AMAT: the exporter need out obtain registration with Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES the Federation of Indian Export Organisa- be pleased to state: 103 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 104

(a) the category-wise number of posts (d) the steps being taken to fill up the reserved for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled aforesaid posts? Tribes in Bhilai, Rourkela, Durgapur, Bokaro, Visakhapatnam, Steel, plants in the public THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES sector; AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The Presi- (b) the total number of class I, Class II, dential Directives provide reservation of 15% Class III and Class IV employees working in and 7 112 for SC and ST respectively in direct the said plants as in July, 1990 separately recruitment on all India basis by means of and the category-wise and plant-wise num- open competitionltest and 16 213% for SC ber of employees belonging to Scheduled and 7 1/2 for ST in direct recruitment on all Castes/Scheduled Tribes; India basis otherwise than by means of open competition test. Percentage of reservation (C) tile category-wise number of posts for SC/ST for recruitment to Group 'C' varies reserved for SCs/STs lying vacant in the from State to State. This percentage in re- plants and the reasons for not filling these spect of States where Steel Plants in Public posts till date: and Sector are located is given below: 105 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 106

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(b) A Statement indicating the Group- exclusive advertisements are wise and Plantwise Number of employees being issued for different cate- working in the steel plants as on 1.1.90 and gories of posts to fill up SC/St the numberof erpployees belonging to sched- vacancies. uled castes arid SCh0dulE:d tribes is given below. ii) In Group 'B', 'C', and 'D' under· special recruitment drive va- (c) Groupwise numberof reserved posts cancies being notified to em- for SC/ST as on 31.3.90for which vacancies ployment exchange. exist in steel plants are given below: iii) SC/ST vacancies are being Group A 278 announced over Ooordarshan and AIR. B 25 iv) Letters are being sent to SCI c 653 ST Welfare Associations and local MPs. Vacancies exist due to nor.-availabdity of suitable SC/ST candidates, especially ex- v) Specification i.e. qualifications, perienced technical personne! fulfilling job experience, age are being re- specifIcations even after cnt8ria like experi- laxed in many posts reserved ence, age and quzd1fying rn3~ks. are relaxed for SC/ST. for them.

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[English] PATEL: SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: Establishment of a Bench of Bombay SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD High Court at Kolhapur YADAV: SHRI E.M.S. PAKEER MO- 759. SHRI UDAYSINGRAOGAIKWAD: HAMED: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be SHRI HET RAM: pleased to state: SHRI CHITTA BASU:

(a) whether Government have received Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased a demand from the people of five districts to state: namely Kolhapur. Sangli. Satara, Ratnagiri and Sindudurg for the establishment of a (a) the efforts made by Government permanent bench of the Bombay High Court since the beginning of 1990 to unearth black at Kolhapur: money;

(b) if so, the action taken by Govern- (b) the amount of black money recov- ment in this regard so tar: and ered/seized in the form of currency notes/ gold ornaments and incriminate documents, (c) the time by v·mieh Government pro- etc.; and pose to establish the said bench at Kol- hapur? (c) the details of the persons/firms etc. from whom black money has recovered? THE MINISTER OF STEELAND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (SHRI DINESH GOSWA(1): (a) to (c). MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Representations have been received for the TRI): (a) and (b). Unearthing black money establishment of a Bunch of the Bombay generated through tax evasion is a continu- High Court at Koihapur. The request has ous process. The Income-tax Department been passt7'd 011 to the State authorities. systematIc surveys, search and seizure Further acrion CJn De takf:n by the Central operations in suitLlole cases and deep scru- Government if a COtilplet0 proposal in thiS tiny In a selected number of cases for detec- regard is received from the Government of tion of unaccounted ineomG and wealth. Maharashtra.

Unearthing of Black Money The details of prima-facie unaccounted assets seized during the course of searches 760. SHRI SHANTILAL PU- conducted from January 1990 to June 1990 RUSHOTTAM DAS are as follows:-

Period January, 90 to June, 90

No. of searches 2018

Value of prima-facie unaccounted assets (Rs. in crares)

Cash 13.19

Jewellery 21.55 11 7 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 118

Others 37.02

Total 71.76

Besides, certain incriminating docu- about non-acceptance of soiled and muti ments were also seized. lated notes, whenever received, is taken u~ with the concerned bank for remedial actior (c) Keeping in view the large number of by RBI and Government. searches conducted in this period, the effort and time put in to compile the details of the [English] persons and firms who were searched may not be com mensurate with the results sought New Policy for Advertisements and to be achieved. Newsprint

[Translation] 762. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA WANSHI: Will the Minister of INFORMA Non·Acceptance of Mutilated Small TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased tc Denomination Notes by Banks state:

761. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANG- (a) whether Government's attentio WAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be has been drawn to the news item captione pleased to state: 'New Policy for Newsprint and advertiSE ments soon' appearing in 'Deccan Heralc (a) whether Government are aware that dated April 24, 1990; mutilated notes of small denomination and soiled notes are not accepted even by the (b) if so, whether the new policy ha~ banks: been finalised: and

(b) if so, the effective steps being taken (c) if so, the salient features of the nev by Government in tl115 regard: and policy?

(c) whether there is any proposal to THE MINISTER OF INFORMATIO~ make arrangements tor the exchange of AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER Of such notes at each district centre? PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P UPENDRA): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The News THE DEPUTY IdlNiSTER IN THE print Allocation Policy for 1990-91 has al MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- ready been laid in Parliament on 18th May TRI): (a) to (c). All the branches of public 1990 and the Rationalisation of the Adver sector banks maintaining currency chests tisement Policy is under consideration of thf have been authorised by Reserve Bank of Government. India (RBI) to exchange soiled and mutilated notes. Such branches are situated not only Fraud in New Bank of India at district headquarters but also at other urban and semi-urban centres. 763. SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: Wi the Minister of FINANCE be pleased te Any specific complaint from the public state: 119 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 120

(a) whether the Reserve Bank of India THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE has detected a fraud in the records of the MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- New Bank of India in Delhi resulting in a total TAl): (a) One Deputy Commissioner, eight loss of about Rs. 9 crores; Assistant Commissioners, twenty-seven Income-tax Officers have been working for (b) if so, when the fraud was detected; more than three years in a Ward/Circle/ and Range/Charge, in Delhi as on 31.7.1990.

(c) the action being taken against the (b) Three years' stay in a particular officials responsible therefor? Ward/Circle is seen as on 1 st April of a year. There were no Deputy Commissioners! THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Assistant Commissioners/Income-tax Offi- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- cers with more than three year$ stay in a TRI): (a) to (c). Reserve Bank of India (RBI) Range/CirclelWard as on 1 st April, 1990 has reported that it has not detected any except six officers holding special pay posts fraud in the New Bank of India resulting in a who have been retained for longer periods loss to the bank. RBI has further reported on account of administrative exigencies. that after finalising the Annual Balance Sheet and Profit and Loss Account for the year Financial Assistance for Development 1989-90, New Bank of India had noticed that of Tourism in Punjab an item ot expenditure was erroneously classified which distorted the profit figure 765. SHRl KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will earlier arrived at by the bank. As advised by the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to the RBI, the New Bank of India has since state: redrawn the Balance Sheet and Profit and Loss Account for the year 1989-90. The (a) whether Punjab Government has Balance Sheet has been certified by the submitted any proposals to Union Govern- Statutory Auditors of the bank and has been ment for financial assistance for develop- adopted by the Board of the Bank. The Bank ment of tourism in Punjab during the last one has initiated disciplinary action against some year; of the concerned officials who were responsible for this accounting lapse. (b) it so, the details thereof:

Impact of Overstay of I.T. Ofiicials on a (c) whether these proposals have been Circle on Revenue Collectors considered and funds sanctioned for the purpose; and 764. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the Minister of FINANCE bt: pleased to state: (d) if so, the details, thereat and if not, the reasons therefor? (a) the number of ITOs/Assistant Commissioners/Deputy Commissioners of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Income-tax. who are workIng tor ·more than MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS 3 years in a WardiCircle/F{ange/Charge, in AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Delhi as on 31st Ju!y, 1990: and TRY OF TOURISM (SHRt SATYA PAL MAUK)~ (a) to (d). The Central Ministry of (b) what action Government propose to 'Tourism have prioritised the following proj- take to transfer such aU icia\s who have ects/schemes for financial assistance dur- overstayed in a particular ward/circle? ing 1990-91 in the State of Punjab:- 121 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

1. Vatri Niwas at Mohali MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS· TRI): (a) to (c). There are at present 22 2. Wayside facilities at Nawashehar Regional Rural Banks in Bihar covering 38 between Chandigarh and Jalland- districts in the State. These Regional Rural har Banks and 1820 branches, mobilised deposits of Rs. 455.34 crores and their out- 3. Wayside facilities at Barnala standing advances stood at Rs. 348.85 crores as at the end of March, 1989 thus having a 4. Wayside facilities at Faridkot credit deposit ratio of 77% as compared to All India figure of 94%. The average busi- 5. Wayside facilities at Kapurthala ness per branch of Regional Rural Banks in Bihar is Rs. 44.19 lakhs against Rs. 42.88 6. Tents for fairs and festivals in lakhs per branch for all the Regional Rural Punjab Banks taken together.

7. Tourist complex and festivals in The financial position of Regional Rural Punjab Banks which are incurring losses is being monitored by National Bank for Agriculture 8. Water Sport equipments and Rural Development and remedial action is suggested to them as well as to their The projects/schemes with detailed Sponsor Banks. Moreover, various financia estimates are awaited. However, during the and managerial measures are being taken year 1989-90, the Department of Tourism from time to time to make the Regional Rural has sanctioned Rs. 15.931akhs for the con- Banks viable. struction of a Tourist Complex at Sangho!. [English] [ Translation] Setting up NRI Fund by Kerala Govern- Regional Rural Banks In Bihar ment

766. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: 767. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD SHRI PALAI K.M. MATHEW: YADAV: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Will the Ministerof FINANCE bIe pleased to state: to state: (a) whether the Government of Kerale (a) whether the regiona! rural banks in has sought the permission of Union Govern- Bihar are working satisfactorily; ment to set up NRI fund:

(b) if not, whether there is need to (b) if so, the details thereof and whether strengthen the set-up and management of the permission has been given; and regional rural banks in Bihar: and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) if so, the steps being taken by Government in this regard? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS· THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TRI): (a) to (c). Information is beingcollectec 123 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 124 and will be laid on the Table of the House. (a) the details of austerity programmes or the steps proposedltaken by Govern- : Translation] ment;

Waiver of Loans Advance Under Self (b) the savings in foreign exchange and Employment Scheme in rupee expected during 1990-91; and

768. SHRI RAM PRASAD (c) the procedure adopted by Govern- :HAUDHARY: Will the Ministerof FINANCE ment for monitoring the progress? )e pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether any proposal to write off the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- oans given to unemployed persons under TRI): (a) The following instructions have he self-employment scheme is under the been issued to contain Government Expen- :onsideration of Government; diture.

(b) the amount advanced under the (i) all the Government Ministries! self-employment scheme in the form of loans Departments have been asked to n rural areas which is yet to be realised; and absorbadoitionalcommitmentson Dearness Allowance within the (c) whether the regional balance has provision made for establishment leen kept in view while granting loans under expenditure. he self-employment scheme? (ii) the Ministries/Departments have THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE been asked to locate savings MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- within their budget to match the TRI): (a) No, Sir. supplementaries sought for by them. (b) and (c). The data reporting system from banks undel the Self Employment (iii) the Ministries/Departments have Scheme for Educated Unemployed Youth also been requested to review the SEEUY) does not generate the information whole range of functions being 'ural and non-rural area wise. During the performed by them with a view to .fear 1988-89, loans to 1.92 lakh beneficiar- reducing functions and activities as amounting to Rs. 404.61 crores were which are no longer relevant or sanctioned under the scheme. The state- can be performed more economi- Nise targets of beneficiaries are fixed by the cally in some other way. 30vernment of India annually for the States. The latter, in turn, allocate the targets to the (iv) Ministries/Departments have been jistricts. asked to wind up the foreign offices of promotional agencies English) under their control.

Auat.,tty Programme of Government (v) it has been decided to class Washington and London.

769. PROF. K-V. THOMAS: Will the (vi) instructions have been issued to ~inister of FINANCE be pleased to state: cut foreign travel expenditure so 125 Written Answers S-RAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 126

as to limit the total expenditure (c) Information is being collected and this year to 75 per cent of the will be laid an the table of tfile Hause. actual expenditure in 1989-90 or the current year's budget provi- (d) and (e). The following tax conces- sion whichever is less. sions are available to investors in the units of mutual funds; notified under clause (23 D) of (vii) instructions has also been issued Section (1'0) of the Income Tax Act. to reduce consumption of petral and diesel in Government vehicles i) Deductions from gross total in- by 20 per cent over the consump- come upto a maximum of As. tion during the year 1989-90. 10,0001- in the aggregate, in respect of income from certain speci- (b) Full impact of these measures can fred assets including units of the be known only over a period of time. Mutual Funds;

(c) All the MinistrieSIDepartments have H) Deductions from income in respect been asked to arrange monitoring of their of the whale of investment in the receipts and expenditure against the monthly units of any Mutual Funds under targets and report to the Ministry of Finance any plan formulated in accordance if there are wide variations. with the Equity Linked savings Scheme. The amount of deduc- Guidelines Relating to Mutual Funds tion is restricted to a maximum of Rs. 10,000/-. 770. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: iii) Deductions, from income-tax of an amount equal to 20% of the (a) whether Government have recently cost of investment (subject to a issued new guidelines relating to mutual maximum investment of Rs. funds; 25,000/-) in the units of a Mutual Fund, subject to the condition that (b) if so, the details of the new guide- the Mutual Fund invests its funds lines and the objectives behind these; in the eligible issue of capital;

(c) the details of the mutual funds ivy The long term capital gain arising launched by various national banks in recent out of sale of units of the Mutual months; Fund is subjected to the same concessional tax treatment under (d) whether the investors in these funds section 48 of the Income-tax Act, are eligible to tax rebate; and as on the case of shares.

(e) if so, the extent thereof? STATEMENT

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Guide/ines for Mutual Funds MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANrLSHAS- TR1): (a) Yes, Sir. Institutions that collectively manage the funds obtained from different investors have (b) A copy of the guidelines is given in commonly come to be known as Mutual the statement below. Funds. These form an important part of th~ 127 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 128

Capital Market providing the benefits of di- the Trustees on the Board of versified portfolios and expert management Trustees should be persons of to a large number of persons, particularly eminence in suitable fields who small investors. are not representing or associated with the Promoters i.e. With a view to facHitating the develop- should be independent outside· ment and orderly functioning of Mutual Funds members. in India, Government have formulated the following guidelines:- III. Investment Objectives and Policies:

I. Establishment 1) Primerily, the Mutual Funds are expected to invest in stocks, 1) All Mutual Funds, except those bonds, securities and money established through a statute, market instruments. Investment would require the -approval of in money market instruments Controller of Capital Issues. should normally be limited to 25% Department of Economic Affairs. of their assets fortheir short term After such approval is obtained, liquidity requirement. This limit these will be registered with the would not apply during the first Securities and Exchange Board six months of a scheme. of India (SEBI). Existing Mutual Funds should get themselves 2) Mutual Funds shall not engage registered with SEBI within 90 in term-leading, except in cases days of the issue of these guide- of Consortium lending in asso- lines. ciation with other Financial Insti- tutions. 2) Mutual Funds, except the statutory ones shall be constituted as 3) Mutual Funds, except those es- Trusts under the Indian Trusts ·tablished with the declared ob- Act. The sponsoring institutions jective of undertaking invest- will be free to work out the details ments in immovable property, regarding the constitution of the shall not undertake property Trust. exceptfor its own use. They may, however, subscribe to the bond 3) The sponsoring institution should and debenture issued by Institu- contribute a minimum of Rs. 2 tionsdealing in Housing Finance. crores to the corpus of the fund which can later be converted into 4) Opening of bank accounts a subscription to anyone of the abroad or entering into an agency schemes of the Mutual Fund. arrangement with a bank incorporated outside India should be II. Management: done only in the case of funds which are floated abroad, and Mutual Funds should be man- with the prior approval of the aged by professionals with proper RBI. qualifications experience of In- IV. Investment Limitation: dustry, Capital Market and other relevant fields. Atleast 40% of 1) A Mutual Funds shall not invest 129 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

more than 5% of its assets in the the method to be adopted for shares of any company. A Mu- valuation of in investments. tual Fund shall also not invest in Besides. the time lag between more than 5% of the shares of successive valuations should not any company under any open exceed six months. scheme. VI. Distribution Policy. 2) Mutual Funds must take delivery of scrip purchased and give de- Mutual Funds must distribute livery in' case of scrip sold. The 80% or more of the income scrip purchased should be trans- earned during the yeartothe unit ferred to the Fund's name. holders. Such current income as is generated should be distrib- 3) Mutual Funds should not borrow uted soon after the closing of the money or pledge their assets in annual accounts. In funds where the normal course. If this is to be it is proposed to add the income done to meet any temporary to the fund Le. cumulative invest- emergency, this should be re- ment schemes. or in purely ported immediately to SEBI. growth oriented funds full disclosure must be made at the time of 4) One Mutual Fund should nor- the offer to the investors. mally not invest in another Mu- tual Fund. If in exceptional cir- 2) Depreciation on investment held cumstances such placements and provision for bad or doubtful are done, these should be for a debts, if any, should be provided temporary period and within a for to the satisfaction of the audi- ceiling of 5% of its assets. tors before declaring any dividend. 5) Mutual Funds should normally not keep deposits with compa- 3) With a view to avoiding sharp nies/other bodies corporate. annual variation in dividends for open-ended scheme, Mutual V. Disclosures. Pricing and Valuation: Funds should create a dividend equalisation fund by appropriat- 1) The offer brochure and other ing part of its surplus income. publicity material for each scheme should disclose clearly VII. Statement of Accounts: and prominently the investment objectives 'of the scheme. 1) Mutual Funds should maintain separate accounts in respect of 2) The maximum spread between each scheme launched segre- purchase and sale prices of un itsl gating the assets under each shares of any scheme should not scheme. exceed' 7% calculated on the basis of the selling pnce. 2) Mutual Funds should prepare a Statement of Accounts in respect 3) The announcements in respect ot each scheme containing the of any scheme should indicate details regarding assets and lia- 131 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 132

bilities income and expenditure. (d) the other steps taken/proposed to be taken for rehabilitation of the cyclone 3) The affairs of the Mutual Fund affected people? shall be audited by one or more auditors duly qualified to act as THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Auditors under the laws in force. MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (d). Reserve Bank of India have 4) The accounting and disclosure issued instructions in May, 1990 to commer- requirements would be pre- cial banks to speedily extend relief and reha- scribed by SEBI. bilitation assistance to the persons affected by recent cyclone in Andhra Pradesh. Its VIII. General: guidelines of August, 1984, inter-alia, envisage conversion 01 short-term production ') These guidelines will not apply to loans into medium term loans, reschedule- India's country funds established ment of the existing term loan instalments abroad e.g. India fund, India and provision of fresh croplterm loans to the Growth Fund. India Magnum affected persons. Banks have also been Fund etc. which would continue advised to extend housing finance as per its to be approved by the Govern- guidelines of November, 1988 for the pur- ment in the Finance Ministry and pose of repairs/reconstruction of the dam- governed by their own scheme. aged houses. Consumption loan can also be extended upto Rs. 5001- to the affected 2) The disclosure guidelines issued families. by the Government relating to institutional transactions in Appointment of SCs/STs Backward shares will also be applicable to Classes and Women Judges in High Mutual Funds promoted by Fi- Courts nancial Institutions/Banks. 772. SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: Recovery of Agricultural Loans in SHRI HUKMDEO NARAYAN Cyclone Affected Areas in Andhra YADAV: Pradesh SHRI K.D. SULTANPURl:

771. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA Will the Minister of LAW ANDJUSTICE GAVIT: be pleased to state: SHRI R.N. RAKESH: SHRI B.N. REDDY: (a) the numberof judges in various High Courts and the number of judges belonging Will the Minister 01 FINANCE be pleased to backward class, scheduled castesltribes, to state: minority communities and women judges out of them; (a) whether there is any proposal to defer the recovery of agricultural loans in (b) whether Government have received cyclone affected areas in Andhra Pradesh; recommendations from the Chief Justices of High Courts and the Chief Ministers of States (b) if so, the details thereof; recommending the names of persons be- \ong\ng to these categof\eS ior appointment (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and as High' Court Judges; 133 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

(c) jf so, the names cleared by Govern- (c) the action taken by Government ment so far, Court-wise; and against those involved in the case; and

(d) the further steps Government pro- (d) the remedial measures taken to pose to take to give adequate representation prevent recurrence of such rackets? to communities in High Courts? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (5HRI AR- AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The requi- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (d). As per site information is being collected and will be the Import and Export Policy and Hand Book laid on the Table of the House. of Procedures, the MMTC released non- ferrous metals to a number of S51 units (b) to (d). Information regarding caste, based on the recommendations of the con- community etc. is not specifically asked for cerned sponsoring authority (Commissioner at the time of making appointments. In view of Industries for SSI units in Delhi) or the of this, it is not possible to indicate how many certified consumption in any of the previous recommendations from the Chief Justices of two years out of purchases from authorised High Courts and the Chief Ministers of States sources of supply, whichever was higher. in respect of persons belonging to backward classes, scheduled castes/tribes, minority communities, etc. have been received or cleared. The Government have, however, The Central Economic Intelligence requested the Chief Justice and the Chief Bureau had searched the business and Ministers to locate persons from the Bar residential premises of 3 persons allegedly belonging to these categories so as to give involved in the sale of non-ferrous metals, them adequate representation on the bench. obtained from MMTC under the guise of actual users. Investigations revealed that a Racket on Sale of Import of Metals number of fictitious firms were set up and Through MMTC these firms had purchased the metals on actual user condition. However, the metals 773. SHRI KAMAL NATH: were sold at a premium in the open market. SHRI MANJAI LAL: The cases so far detected, involve lifting of SHRI R.N. RAKESH: non-ferrous metals to the tune of Rs. 8.5 SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- DAL: crores from MMTC. These 3 persons have been arrested for action under the Customs Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Act, 1962 and Import and Export (Control) pleased to state: Act, 1947.

(a) whether the Central Economic Intel- The Commission of Industries in the ligence Bureau has unearthed a major racket Delhi AdmInistration has initiated de-regis- involving illegal sale of metals imported tration proceedings against such fictitious through the Minerals and Metals TradJng firms and MMTC, under advice from the Corporation for industrial use; Delhi Administration, suspended supplies to these firms in November, 1989. (b) if so, details of the case: 135 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 136

[ Trans/ation ] (b) whether a regional office of the Company is proposed to be opened in these Insurance cases Pending with United areas for convenience of beneficiaries; and India Insurance Company Ltd. (c) if so, the time by which the regional 774. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the office is likely to be opened? ./ Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANI!..SHAS- (a) whether a number of insurance TRI): (a) The information regarding dura- cases pertaining to Almora, Pithoragarh and tion-wise break-up of claims pending with Chamoli districts of Uttar Pradesh are pend- Almora, Pithoragarh and Chamoli branches ing with the United India Insurance Com- of United India Insurance Company Ltd. is as pany Ltd. for a long time; under:-

Duration Number of claims pending

AIm ora Pithoragarh Chamoli

1 2 3 4

Upto 6 months 5 12 Nil

6 months to 1 year 3 20 Nil

1 year to 3 years Nil Nil Nil

(b) No, Sir. compiled by the State Government.

(c) Does not arise. World Bank Aid to India

Foreign Tourists in M.P. 776. PROF.MAHADEOSHIWANKAR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 775. DR. LAXMINARA YAN PANDEYA: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to (a) the amount of foreign aid received state the number of foreign tourists who from the World Bank during the last five visited tourist spots in Madhya Pradesh and years, year-wise; and the amountofforeign exchange earned from them during the last three years, year-wise? (b) the details of efforts made by Gov- ernment for getting greater foreign aid?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRI): (a) Year-wise amount of loan/credit TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL received from the World Bank during the last MALIK): The relevant statistics (;ire not being five years is as follows: 137 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (?AKA) Written Answers 138

(e) if so, the details thereof? Year (US $ million) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Loan/Credit MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The work of 1 2 the Offices of Custodian of Enemy Property at Bombay and Calcutta will be transferred to 1985-86 1314.4 the Ministry in Delhi and eventually the offices will be closed down. At any rate, the 1986-87 1294.1 work relating to disposal of claims will not be affected. 1987-88 2206.3 (b) and (c). Out of total 57,493 claims 1988-89 2470.1 registered under the Ex-gratia Scheme, 50,420 claim cases have been disposed of 1989-90 2012.4 7073 claims remain to be settled.

(b) The progress of projects financed (d) No, Sir. with foreign assistance are constantly being reviewed. Procedures for approvals have (e) Does not arise. been simplified and progress of projects is being monitored with a view to improving the Allotment of land for Construction of disbursement of loans/credits already com- Rooms in Kerala Tourism Development mitted. Corporation Hotel at Kovalam

[English] 778. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- MAN: Will the Minister 01 TOURISM be Disposal of Claims by Custodian of pleased to state: Enemy Property (a) whether the Kerala Government 777. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will the has requested Union Government to allot Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: the land lying between Kerala Tourism Development Corporation hotel at Kovalam (a) whether Government propose to and the I.T.D.C. hotel for providing addi- continue the offices of the Custodian of tional facilities to the existing K.T.D.C. hotel Enemy property; till the satisfactory disposal and for the construction of a 100 rooms new of all the genuine claims; block; and

(b) the number of claims pending with (b) if so, the action taken by Union Government till date and their stage of finali- Government in this regard? sation; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the number of cases settled so far; MINISTRY OF PARLlAMENTARY-AFfAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL (d) whether Government propose to MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. consider the cases of persons who could not register their claims earlier; and (b) In view of its own requirements, 139 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 140

ITDC is not in a position to spare land to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes as K.T.D.C. at Kovalam Beach in Kerala. provided under Presidential Directive are being followed by the Unit Trust of India; Representation of Minority Communi- tles Judges In Supreme Court (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and

779. SHRI HUKUMDEO NARAYAN (c) the action Government propose to YADAV: Will tha Minister of LAW AND take to ensure that reservation rules are JUSTICE be pleased to state: implemented there?

(a) the number of judges of the Su- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE preme Court: MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) to (c). The information is being (b) the number of judges belonging to collected and will be laid on the Table of the backward classes, scheduled castes, sched- House. uled tribes, minority community and women judges out of them; and [Translation]

(c) the steps Government propose to Loans Advanced to Agricultural and take with a view to provide adequate repre- Industrial Sectors by Banks sentation to the above categories? 781. SHRI JANARDAN TIWARI: Will THE MINISTER OFSTEELAND MINES the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Out of the (a) the amount of loans sanctioned by sanctioned strength of 26 Judges, 25 Judges nationalised banks to industries and agricul- are in position in the Supreme Court. ture sectors during 1988, 1989 and 1990 (upto 30 June), separately; (b) There is one woman Judge in the Supreme Court. As per available informa- (b) the details of recovery of loans from tion, two of the Judges belong to Scheduled both sectors during these years, separately; Castes. (c) the number of loan applications (c) The Government make all possible pending as on June 30, 1990; and efforts to provide adequate representation to the persons belonging to backward classes, (d) the steps taken/proposed to be scheduled castes and scheduled tribes, taken for early sanctioning of loans to these minority community and women. applicants?

Reservation for SCS/STs in UTI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- 780. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Will TRI): (a) As per date available from Reserve the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Bank of India, Deployment of Bank Credit to Agriculture and Industry for the years ending (a) whether the reservation rules for June 1988 and June 1989 were as under:- 141 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 142

>(Rs. in crores)

June 1988 June 1989

1 2 3

Agriculture 12285 14133

Industry 37231 47412

(b) Reserve Bank of India monitor;; THE MIN ISTER OF INFORMATION recovery performance of public sector bank AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF in respectoftheirdirectagricultural advances PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. only. The performance of public sector banks UPENDRA): (a) and (b). The availability of as at the end of June 1987 and June 1988 the capacity in the space segment has no was 57.1 % and 57.2% respectively. direct bearing on the increase of the duration of the existing services nor with the estab- (c) and (d). The present data reporting lishment of introduction of Second Channel system does not generate information in the TV Service at selected places which in- manner asked for. However, Reserve Bank volves establishment of terrestrial transmit- of India has advised banks that all loan ters for the purpose. applications from borrowers of priority sectors upto a credit limit of Rs. 25,0001- should Development of Oeogarh (Bihar) as a be disposed of within a fortnight and those Place of Pilgrimage over Rs. 25,0001- within 8 to 9 weeks. 783. SHRI PRATAP SINGH: Will the [English] Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state:

Setting up of Radio and T. V. Stations (a) whether Government have received after INSAT-IO any proposal from Bihar Government forthe development of Deogarh as a place of pil- 782. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: Will grimage; the Minist~tof INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (b) if so, the funds proposed to be allocated by Union Government for this (a) whether his Ministry has drawn up purpose during 1990-91; and any programmes for utilization of INSAT-ID satellite by increasing the duration of the (c) if not, the reasons therefor? present programmes of Radio and T.V. setting up of more Radio and T. V. Stations and 'THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE opening second channel of T.V. to these MIN ISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Stations where they are not available; and AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL (b) if so, the details' of those expansion MALtK): (a) No, Sir. programmes and the time by which these will be implemented? (b) and (c). Does not arise. 143 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1S90 Written Answers 144

Assistance for Development ,of Tourism Demand for Subsidy of Interest on Co- In Kerala operative Loans

784. PROF; P.J. KURIEN: 785. SH~I A. VIJA YARAGHAVAN: Will SHRI T. BASHEER: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:

Will the MinisterofTOURISM be pleased (a) whether Government of Kerala has to state: given any representation for allowing 5 per cent subsidy on interest for the punctual (a) whether Kerala Government has repayment of eo-operative loans; sent any new proposals to Union Govern- ment fer the development of tourism in the (b) if so, the details thereof; and State; (c) the reaction of Union Government in (b) if so, the details thereof; this regard?

(c) the action taken thereon by Union THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Government and the likely time by which MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- these proposals will be cleared; and TRI): (a) to (c). The State Government of Kerc~lIa sent a scheme in January 1990 to the (d) the total financial assistance pro- Government of India an National Bank for posed to be allocated to the State in this Agriculture and Rural Development (NA- regard during the current year? BARD) which provided interest subsidy in the shape of payment of interest at 5% below THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the rate of borrowing by the loanees and the MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS balance to be paid by the State Government AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- to the Cooperatives. As Reserve Bank of TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL IndialNABARD are not in favour of any inter- MALIK): (a) to (d). The following schemes est subsidy scheme, the proposal of the have been prioritisad in consultation with the State Government was not accepted. State Government of Kerala for the year 1990-91 :- [Translation]

1. 50 tents 10r trekking. Uniformity In Salaries and Other FacUlties to Employees and Officers In 2. Water-side amenities between Banks Coehin to Kottayam. 786. SHRIPYARELALKHANDELWAL: 3. Visitor's Centre at Trivandrum. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: 4. Tourist Huts at Pathrinimanam. (a), whether Government propose to 5. Water sports equipments for Co- bring uniformity in the matter of salaries and chin and Kova\am. other facilities being given to the employees/ Officers of all the Public Sector Banks; and However. projects with detailed estimates are awaited from the State Govern- (b) if so. tha time by which decision ment. would be taken in this regard? 145 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE has resulted in increase in the international MINISTRYOFFfNANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- prices. TAl): (a) and (b). The pay scales in public sector banks are identical10r the workmen. (c) The exporters of meat have been There are, however, slight differentials in the advised to resubmit complete cost data to pay scales of officers of Scale V and above facilitate review of the question of grant of between the State Bank of India vis-a-vis ccs. other public sector banks due to historical reasons. Reduction of Public Spending

[English] 788. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: SHRf PARAS RAM BHARD- WAJ: Export of Buffalo Meat to Kuwait Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased 787. SHRI E.S.M. PAKEER MO- to state: HAMED: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (a) whether Government has introduced a series of economy measures to reduce (a) whether the 10 per cent cash incen- public spending in addition to 10 per cent cut tive given by Government to meat exporters in budgetary allocations of Ministries and 20 has been withdrawn resulting in increase in per cent reduction in their foreign travel the price in the international market; expenditure; and

(b) if so, whether this has resulted in the (b) if so, the details thereof? boycott of Indian buffalo meat by Kuwait resulting in loss of foreign exchange; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN ISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- (c) the measures Government propose TRI): (a) Govemment has issued instruc- to take in this regard? tions for containment of public spending.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) All Government Ministries/Depart- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ments have been asked to absorb additional ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). Cases commitment on Dearness Allowance within of Cash Compensatory Support (CCS) on the provision madefor establishment expen- exports are decided by a inter-Ministeria) diture. 1hey have a)so been aSKed \0 \oca\e Committee of the Government, after consid- savings within their budget to match the ering the Cost Data submitted by exporters. additional expenditure provisions sought for After examining the cost data submitted by by them. The Ministries/Departments have some of the exporters of meat, the Commit- been requested to review the whole range of tee did not find any justification for granting functions being performed by them with a CCS on frozen buffalo meat and hence CCS view to reduce functions and activities which on this item was withdrawn w.e.f. 1.6.1990. are no longer relevant or can be performed more economically in some other way. In- Our Embassy in Kuwait has informed structions have been issued to Ministries to that so far as they are aware, there is no wind up the foreign offices of promotional boycott of Indian buffalo meat by Kuwait. It;s agencies under their control. Further they too early to s~y whether withdrawal of CCS are to reduce expenditure on foreign travel to 147 Written AnswefS AUGUST 10. 1990 Written AnSW91S 148

75 per cent of the actual expenditure in [English1 1989--90 or the current year's budget provision whichever is less. Consumption of pet- foreign Debt rol and diesel in Government vehides is also to be reduced by 20% over the consumption 790. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: during the year 1989-90. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased ~ state: [Translation] (a) the percentage of rise in Govern- Percentage of Rural Population Cov- ment borrowing and the external debt as on ered by Doordarahan Transmission in date (in foreign exchange); Uttar Pradesh (b) the percentage of the foreign bor- 789. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Will the rowing which went as servicing of debt and Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- what percentage the export earnings are CASTING be pleased to state: . used to service the debt annually;

(a) the percentage of rural population in (c) the priorities. if any t for reducing Uttar Pradesh which is fully covered by Government expenditure stating the areas Doordarshan transmission; identified for the purpose and whether Gov- ernment subsidies are proposed to be re- (b) whether Government propose to duced; and expand the coverage of Doordarshan in Uttar Pradesh; and (d) if so, the details thereof?

(c) if so, the effective steps being taken THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE in this regard? MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). There was an increase of THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION about 16 per cent in Government borrowings AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (domestic plus external) during 1989-90 over PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. that of 1988-89. The total external debt out- UPENDRA): (a) to (c). TV service is, at standing as on 31.3.90 is estimated to be US present, available to about 87.6% popula- $ 46751 million equivalent to Rs. 80132 tion of Uttar Pradesh including 86.8% of the crores at the prevailing exchange rate. The rural population. On the commissioning of a total debt serviCing payment (i.e. repayment high pOwer (10 KW) TV transmitter at Bareilly; . of principal and payment of interest) is esti- a very low power (2 x 10 W) transmitter at mated to be 21.6 percent of country's ex- Munsiari and a transposer each at Mus- ports and gross invisible earnings. soorie and Churk pre~ently under implementation as spill-over schemes of the VII Plan, TV service is expectec·~o be available (c) and (d). All Ministries have been to about 92% population of Uttar Pradesh advised to make sustained efforts for reduc- including 91.6%. of the rural,P0pulation. It is ing burden of administrative expenditure and the endeavour of the Government to further exercise careful scrutiny of all ongoing pro- expand TV service in the State, as expedi- grammes and schemes. Steps have also tiously as possible, depending upon the been taken to closely monitor expenditure availability of adequate resources for this so as to ensure that it does not exceed the purpose. budgetary targets. 149 Wnlten AnsW81S 3RAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsMH'S 150

ProposallD ... up AntI-Smuggling MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR· CoUectorat. ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir.

791·. SHRJ BANWARI LAl PUROHIT: (b) and (c). The investigation carried Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to out by the Coffee Board has revealed that state: four coffee curing works had misappropri- ated coffee to the tune of 325.41 tonnes (a) whether smuggling activities across valued at Rs. 77.29 lakhs approximately. In Indo-Burma border has increased sharply; respect of the three coffee curing works where the value of coffee lost to the pool is (b) if so, whether Government propose less than Rs. 11 lakhs, the value of coffee to set up anti-smuggling CollectoJate along together with the penalty imposed has al- the country's border with Burma; and ready been ordered to be recovered and the recoveries are being effected from out of the (c) if so, the details thereof? curing remuneration bills preferred by the respective curing works. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- In respect of the fourth coffee curing TRI): (a) to (c). Available reports indicate work, the matter is sub-judice in the High that the Indo-Burma border continues to be Court of Karnataka. sensitive to smuggling. However, it is not feasible to say whether sub smuggling ac- Withholding of DA Payment tivities have increased sharply at any particular time. A proposal for creation of a 793. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the Customs Preventive Sub-Collector ate for Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: combat smuggling across this border is being examined. (a) whether Government are contem- plating to withhold cash payment of D.A. Inquiry into Bungling by Coffee Board payable from 1 July. 1990 to those drawing basic pay above Rs. 3,5001-: 792. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJ: SHRI KAILASH MEGHWAL: (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and

Will the Minister 01 COMMERCE be (c) the grounds 10r discr\minat\on be- pleased to state: tween one and the other class 01 Govern- ment servants in regard to payment of D.A. (a) whether an inquiry by Coffee Board payable from 1 July. 1990? has revealed huge misappropriation of coffee by curing works; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS- (b) if so, the details thereof and whether TRI): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. Government has Government have examined the enquiry decided that the amount of additional instal- report; and ments of Dearness Allowance falling due from 1st July, 1990 onwards to all Central (c) the action taken against those who Government employees drawing pay above had been found responsible for it? Rs. 35001- per month shall not be paid in cash, but instead it shall be credited to their THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE respective Provident Fund Accounts. As the 151 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 152 lower r aid employees are likely to be more ing a proposal to grant general exemption affedeo by the price rise, employees draw- under FERA to Non-residents Indian (NRIs) ing pay upto Rs. 3500/- per month will be from declaration of assets held by them paid the additional Dearness Allowance abroad, retention of repatriable investment instalr.'Jents in cash. and foreign currency Non-resident (FCNR) deposits; 1mpo;-' of Gold Jewellery by NRls

794. SHRI BABANRAO CHAKNE: (b) if so, the detaits thereof; and SHRI R.L.P. VERMA: SHRI OALPAT SINGH PAR- (c) the steps being taken to induce the ASTE: Non-resident Indian to invest in sectors like SHRI GOPAL PACHERWAL: infrastructure, power generation and capital goods? Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether Government have decided MINlSTAYOF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- to permit Non-resident Indians and other TAl): (a) and (b). A proposal envisaging. people coming from abroad to bring gold in inter-alia, grant of exemption under various a limited quantity after paying the prescribed provisions of FERA. 1973 from declaration duty; of toreign currency assets held by NRI if they choose to came to Indiall for a temporary (b) if! J, the details thereof; and period for setting up illdustriallbuslness enterprises or taking up. specialised short- (c) the t Ivantages by allowing NRls to term assignments, is uooer examination. import gold/g ·Id jewellery?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) With a view to imparting greater MINISTRVOF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- transparency to the policies and for remov- TRI): (a, to (c). A broad proposal to this ing irritants for prospective NAI investors, eHed has been made to the Government but policies and schemes are continuously re- the proposal has not yet been accepted and viewed by the Government. as such details have not been worked out. Joint Ventures with Namibia FERA Exemption of NRls 797. SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: Willthe 795. SH81MATI CHENNUPATI Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: VADYA: SHRI SAN10SH KUMAR (a) whether Government have explored GANGWAR: the possibility of joint ventures with Namibia; SHRI B.N. REDDY: SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: \'0) \\ so, VII\"\e\het an'i \a\~s VIIete \\e\d Wl\\the M\n\stef 0' F\NA.NCE be p\eased {ecen\\~ w\\n the Nam\b\an M\n\stet at Oe\h\ to state: in this regard; and

(a' whether Government are consider- (c) if so, the outcome thereof? 153 Written Answers SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Translation J MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (c). As a Opening of Bank Branches In R1-' ral result of talks held with the Namibian Minis- Areas In Bihar ter of Mines and Energy in New Delhi on 8th June, 1990 India has agreed to:- 798. SHRI JANARDAN YADAV: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state:

(a) provide technical training upto 50 (a) the directives issued by the Reserve candidates to be nominated by Bank of India in regard to the opening of new Namibian Government in various branches in the rural areas underthe Branch fields: Expansion Scheme;

(b) depute upto 10 officers/experts in (b) the number of branches recom- selected areas to Namibia; and mended by Government of Bihar for opening in rural areas till 31 July, 1990; and (c) the number of licences issued for (c) prepare feasibility study for setting opening of new branches and the number of up pilot projects In small scale in- branches of commercial and regional rural dIIIIIlies S€;ctor. banks opened, separately, as on the above date? India nal!lllliliso agreed to extend assIS- tance under. AFHICA Fund in the tallow- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Ing areas:- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) to (c). The previous Branch licensing Policy 10r 1985-90 came to an end on 1. Feasibility study In the field of water 31.3.1990. Reserve Bank of India (RBI) has resources and supply of pumps not issued directives for opening new and small water storage facilities. branches in rural and semi-urban areas as the guidelines tor the ensUIng Branch li- 2. Medicines and mobile clinic. censing Policy have not been finalised so far. The number of branches recommended 3. Feasibility study In education sec- by the Government -of Bihar. the number of tor: and centres allotted by RBI and the number of branches opened by commercial banks and 4. Assistance for setting up vocational Regional Rural Banks (RRBs) during the training centr8S. previous policy are as tollows:

Recommended by Allotted by RBI -Ooened State Government Commercial Banks ARBs

1 2 3 4

1115 622 334 60 155 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 156

Setting up of a High Power T.V. Relay (d) if so, the details in this regard? Centre In Rosera, Bihar THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 799. SHRI DASAI CHOWDHARY: Will MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- TRI): (a) While some complaints are re- CASTING be pleased to state: ceived from time to tome, no evidence of cheating by some NRls under FERA have (a) whether Government propose to set come to the notice of the Government re- up a high powered television relay centre at cently according to available records. Rosera, Bihar; and (b) to (d). Do not arise. (b) if so, the time by which it is likely to be set up? Development of East and West Cham- paran Districts of Bihar THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF 801. SHRI DHARMESH PRASAD PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. VARMA: Will the Minister of TOURISM be UPENDRA): (a) and (b). No, Sir. There is no pleased to state: such proposal under the consideration of the Government at present. However, it is the (a) whether Union Government pro- endeavour of Doordarshan to extend TV pose to bring the East and West Champaran iervice to the uncovered parts as expedi- Districts of Bihar on the tourist map in view of iously as possible but this objective can be their historical importance: lchieved only in a phased manner depend- ng upon the availability of adequate re- (b) whether Union Government have sources under expansion plans of Door- received any proposals from the Govern- ::iarshan. ment of Bihar for the development of tourism in these districts: and English) (c) if so, the details thereof and the Cheating by Some NRls financial assistance proposed to be given to the State for the purpose? 800. SHRI D.M. PUTTE GOWDA: SHRI R. GUNDU RAO: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFPARL1AMENTARYAFFAIRS Will the MInister of FINANCE be pleased AND MIN ISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN IS- :> state: TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) Development of tourism is pri- (a) whether instance of cheating by marily the responsibility of the State Govern- ome of non-resident Indians have recently ment. However, some places of tourist inter- ome to the notice of Government; est in East and West Champaran Districts of Bihar have already been included in one of (b) i1 so, the details thereof; the three travel circuits identified in consultation with the State Government for promotion. (c) whether Government propose to ·'teek the actiVities of non-r8S1dent Indians (b) and (c). The Ministry of Tourism in ho are often visit1r1g Inold: and consultation with the State Government. has 157 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 158 prioritised the construction ot a Tourist give subsidy to State Government tor the Complex at Valmikinagar for Central finan- construction of private hotels. cial assistance during the year 1990-91. The proposal has just been received and is under Opening of T.V. Centres During 1990 scrutiny. 804. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: Television Tower in Palampur, Kangra Win the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 802. SHRI D.O. KHANORIA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- (a) the number of television centres CASTING be pleased to state: opened or proposed to be opened during the year 1990; (a) whether Government have any proposal 10 examine the feasibility of 1elevi- (b) the range of In~ore television centre; sion tower at Palampur, Kangra; and (c) whether its fujI capacity is being (b) if so, the details thereof? utilised; and

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION (d) the details of the places covered by AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF this centre? PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) and (b). It is the endeavour THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION of the Government to extend TV service to AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF the uncovered parts of the country. including PARUAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. those in Kangra district of Himachal Pradesh, UPENDRA): (a) The number of TV Centres as expeditiously as possible, depending upon commissioned so far during the current year the awilability of adequate resources forthis and those envisaged to be commissioned purpese. during the remaining part of the current financial year are indicated in the statement [Translation} below.

Subsidy Provided for Construction pf (b) The high power (10 KW) TV trans- Holel in H.P. mitter at Ind.ore provides service within a range of about 120 Kms. inclusive of the 803. SHRI K.D. SUL TANPURI: Will the fringe areas where satisfactory reception is Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state the possible with the help of elevated and multi- amount of subsidy given by Union Govern- element antennae. boosters etc. ment to Himachal Pradesh Government tor the construction of private hotels dUring the (c) Yes, Sir. last three years. year-wise? (d) The high power TV transmitter at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indore provides service, wholly or partially, MIN ISTRY OF P ARL lAMENT ARY AFF AIRS to the districts of Indore, Ujjain, Jhabua, AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Ratlam, Dhar. West Nimar, East Nimar, TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL Dewas, Sehore and Shajapur of Madhya MALIK): The Union Government does not Pradesh. 159 Written Answer.s AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answer.s 160

STATEMENT

I. Number of TV Centres Commissioned between 1.1.90 and 10.8.90

1. Programme Generation Facility (PGF) Centre

2. High Power (10 KW) TV Transmitter 2 (1 HPT in replacement of LPT (100 W) 1 HPT in replacement of another HPT (1 KW)

3. High Power (1 KW) TV Transmitter 2 (1 HPT in replacement of LPT (100 W)

4. Low Power TV Transmitter 5

5. Very Low Power TV Transmitter 3

6. Transposer 4

II. Number of TV Centres Envisaged to be Commissioned during the Remaining Part of 1990-91

1. TV Studio Centres 9

2. High Power (10 KW) TV Transmitter 3 (1 HPT in replacement of another HPT (1 KW)

3 High Power (1 KW) TV Transmitter

4. Low Power TV Transmitter

5. Very Low Power TV Transmitter 2

6. Transposer 2

[English] (b) the number of persons in Orissa who have taken loans to set up industry Loans Advanced in Orissa for Setting during the the Seventh Five year Plan pe- up of Industries riod;

805. SHRI NAKUL NAYAK: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) the number of such persons out of them who have not set up industry; and (a) whether a number of persons in Orissa have taken loans to set up industry (d) the action proposed to be taken by but they have'not set up any industry: Government against such persons? 161 Written Answers SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 162

THE -DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether a raid has been conducted MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- by the C.B.1. at the residences of some high TRI): (a) to (d). Reserve Bank of India has officers of some officers of India Tourism reported that the number of borrowal ac- Development Corporation due to their in- counts of small scale i nd ustrial un its financed volvement in possessing assets dispropor- , by all scheduled commercial banks in Orissa tionate to their income; as on the last Friday of December 1984, 1985, 1986. 1987 and June 1988 (latest data (b) if so, whether the report of C.B.1. has available) were 59075, 65907, 74940, been received by Government; and 103557 and 127694 respectively. However, the existing data reporting system does not (c) if so, the action taken by Govern~ generate information in the, manner asked ment in this regard? for.lnthe case of misutilisation ofbank loans by borrowers, the amount lent is ,recovered THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE from them by enforcing securities and taking MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS up matters in the court of law, wherever AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- necessary. TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. In the recent past, a Raids on Premises 01 GOldsmiths raid was conducted by the C.B.1. at the residence of a Sr. Executive of ITDC on 806. -SHRI RL.P. VERMA: wm the 26.6.1990. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) and (c). As per a report received (a) whetherthere have been large scale from the C.B.I. the case is at the initial stage raids by the Excise/Customs staff recently of investigation. Hence, no action can be on the premises of numerous GoidsmIH1s 1'1 taken by Government at this stag.e. various parts of the country including the coastal areas: and loans Availed by Farmers and Artisans from Cooperative Banks (b) if so, the steps being taken by Government to avoid harassment of the 808. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- ~oldsmiths in the matter of acqUIsitIOn and JEE: Will the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased ree movement of Gold and Silver within the to state: ountry? (a) whether in many States the Co- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE operative banks are not entertaining any MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS- appeal for waiving of loans to small and TRI): (a) and (b). The informati~I1i. marginal farmers and artisans upto Rs. collected and will be laid on th~ 10.000/- as on 2 October, 1989; House. ») if so, the reasons therefor; and C.BJ. Raid at Residen . I. T.D.C. Officia le steps!taken or contemplated by ent in this regard?

807. SHRI GANGA CHJ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of TOURISM . __ . .'~ISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- state: TRI): (a) to (c). On the basis of the advice 163 Written AnswBlS AUGUST 10~ 1.99a Written AnsWfHS 164 tendered to State Govemments by Govem- existing set-off notification in ment of India, necessary steps have been respect of some of the petr0- taken by many State Governments1O formu- leum items and textile goods lat&debt relief scheme covering loans given may be brought within the pur- by cooperatives. For smooth and. expedi- view of Modvat Scheme. tious implementation of the schema National Bank for Agriculture and RuralD&velopment (H) Extension of Uodvat to aer~ed (NA8ARD) has issued suitable g,Jidelines to water is recommended. all cooperative banks. On the basis of these guidafines and the procedure identifying the (iii) The time is not yet ripe tor the beneficiaries under the schema the work in introduction of oomprehensive the States are at various stages and aU the value added tax in India. identified beneficiaries including small farmers/marginal farmers will be eii~ble for relief (iv) The national credit scheme under the Scheme. under which input credit at rates higher than rates on which duty Report of Working Group of MODVA T has been actually paid is given in respect of products manufac- 809. SHAI ANANTRAO tured by small scale units should DESHMUKH: be withdrawn as this system KUMAR' UMA BHARAn: has resulted in certain distortion and misuse of Modvat Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased scheme. It has also been found to state: that this scheme discriminates against tiny units. (a) whether the "working group" to review the 'MODVAT SCHEME', has sub- (v) Excise rules and the existing mitted its report to Union Government; procedures should be amended to rationalise, simplify and im- (b) if so, the important recommenda- prove the working of the Modvat tions made by the group: and scheme.

(c) whether Union Government pro- (vi) Urgent action should be taken pose to implement these recommendations regarding staff augmentation. in near future and if so, when? computerisation training and orientation of the officers of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Department to take care of the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- additional items of work gener- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. ated by the Modvat Scheme.

(b) The important recommen~ (c) The report is receiving the attention made by the group, are as und ~he Government of India.

(i) Extension of Mo,4" " ..,~\usion of Tourist Places of Jammu leum Sector, tobe :~~; Region in Tourist Map of India matches and cin 810. SHR' JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Will films, textiles and C, Minister of TOURISM be pleased to is not recommende

(a) whether Government propose to [English] "include some places in Jammu region. namely Sarainsar. Mansar, T atta Pani. Noovi Show Causa Notices Issued to Foreign Chhamb. Kud, Patni Top. Mansar and Mann Share Holding Companies for Tax Talai on the Tourist map of India to attract Evasions foreign and domestic Tourists; and 812. SHRI KARIA MUNDA: Will the (b) if so, the time by which it is likely to Minister of FINANCE be pleased ~o state: be done? (a) the number of show cause notices THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE issued to companies with foreign share hold- MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS ings for evasion of Excise and Customs AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- duties which are pending adjudication and TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL the amount pending realisation; and MALIK): (a) and (b). In the maps produced by the Department of Tourtsm, Vaishno Devi, (b) if so, the details thereof? Tatta Pani and Kud have been included. THE DEPUTY M1NJSTER IN THE [Translation] MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHR1ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Information is being coJ- Conveyance Allowance to Employees lected and will be laid on the table fa the HOUSQ. 811. SHR1'KALPNATH SONKAR: Will the Minister of FlNANCE be pleased to refer D.A. Instalment Due to Government to the reply given on 16th March, 1990 to Employees Unstarred Question No. 818 regarding payment of conveyance allowance to Govern- 813. SHRI RAM SAGAR (Saidpur): ment employ'ees and state: SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: SHRI KALPNATH SONKAR: (a) whether a final decision has since SHRI 8ALGOPAL MISHRA: been taken in the matter: SMT. VASUNDHAAA RAJE: SHAI J.P. AGARWAL: (b) if so, the details thereof; and Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (c) if not, the reasons therefor and the to state: time by which the matter is likely to be finalised? (a) whether another instalment of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Dearness Allowance has become due to the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- Central Government employees effective TRI): (a) to (c). The award given by the from 1st July, 1990; Board of Arbitration regarding grant to conveyance allowance to non-gazetted Central Government employees is being processed (b) if so, at what rate and by when it is in accordance with the scheme for Joint likely to be released for cash payment; and Consultative Machinery and Compulsory Arbitration and a decision is likely to be taken (c) the concrete steps taken to bring shortly. down the ever increasing prices? Written Answers 168 167 Written Answers AUGUST 10. 1990

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. TRI): (a) The balance at the end of 1989-90 in the Acco'unts of Oil Industry Development (b) As per the existing scheme for Board amounted to Rs. 530.87 crores and payment of Dearness Allowance to Central that of Steel Development Fund Rs. 40.32 Government Employees, the instalment of crores. Dearness Allowance due from 1 st July is payable with the salary of September at (b) These fund3 are earmarked and rated linked to the percentage increase in utilised for development of oil industry and the twelve monthly average index of AICPI rehabilitation, replacement and modernisa- (1960 :: 100) over the average index of 608 tion of steel plants, respectively. and is determined according to the formula for neutralisation based on different pay (c) No, Sir. The funds are, however, ranges. It has been decided that in respect of taken into account as internal resources of employees drawing pay above Rs. 3500/- oil and steel sectors while determining their per month, the additional instalment 'Of D.A. Annual Plan size. shall not be paid in cash, but instead it shall be credited to their respective Provident (d) Does not arise. Fund Accounts. Rajasthan Government's Proposals for (c) Government is giving high priority to Foreign Assistance combating inflation. Steps have been initiated to exercise fiscal and monetary disci- 815. SHRIMATIVASUNDHARARAJE: .pline through reduction in budget~~~.:it Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to contractIon of money supply and ecomm,m state: public expenditure. Supplies of essential commodities are being maintained through (a) numberof scheme submitted by the public distribution system. Government of Rajasthan to the Centre for seeking assistance from International agen- Amount In oloa and SO Funds cies;

814. SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: Will (~) the total amount of assistance sought the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: by GovEJrnment of Rajasthan for implementing tho~chemes; (a) the total amount in tne account of Oil Industry Development Board' and also in the (c) now many of those schemes have account of Steel Development Fund; been approved so far; and

(b) ~tfe purposes for which these (d) the amount of loan secured by the amounts are earmarked and utilised; State Government for those schemes so far? (c) whether any part of this amount is utilised forthe purpose of reducing the budg- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE etary dJticit; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (d). Currently, there are 11 (d) if so. the amount so utilised, year- projects in Rajasthan which·.~ receivTng wise? external assistance. In additio~1here are 169 Written Answers SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

nine project proposals which have been oounter part funds and external commit- received from the Rajasthan Government ments available. for oonsideration of external assistance. They are at various stages of processing. The final cost of the projects and related external Statement-I giving the details of the on- assistance ar-e indeterminate at this stage going projects and Statement-II of the proj- since these would depend on the finally ects identified by Government of Rajasthan approved soope at the project, availability of for external assistance are given below. 171 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answe/'S 172

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STATEMENT-II

Statement Giving Project Proposals which have been Received from the Rajasthan Government and are Under Consideration

51. No. Name of the Project.

1. Narmada Canal Project.

2. Rajasthan CAD Phase-II

3. Sidhmukh and Nohar Irrigation project.

4. Indira Gandhi Nahar Project-Phase I of Stage II.

5. Rajasthan Water Supply -II.

6. Rajasthan Irrigation Project.

7. Afforestation of Arravali Hills.

B. Afforestation and Pasture Development in Indira Gandhi Canal Area- Stage-II.

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(a) the names of zones in each of the Cadre Scheduled Castes nationalised banks: Officers 13502 (b) the Regions in ea~h zone: Clerks 41522 (c) the number of employees belonging to Scheduled Castes in each Region: Sub-Staff 23703

(d) whetherthedistribution of the Sched- Sweepers 11015 uled Caste employees in equitable in all the Regions i.e. 15 per cent: and (d) and (e). In terms of para 2.1 of the Brochure on Reservations 10r Scheduled (e) if not. the actIon taken/proposed to Tribes in Services (7th Edition) the reserva- be taken by Government to correct the distri- tions for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in recruitment to clerical and sub-staff bution? cadres are provided in terms of Appendix-VII of the Brochure and broadly correspond to IN THE DEPUTY MINISTER THE their population in each State/Union Terri- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- tory. Recruitment to the officer cadres of the TRI): (a) and (b). The names of Zonal and banks is on All India basis and the reserva- Regional Offices of the nationalised banks, tion in posts at the rate of 15% for Scheduled bank-wise, as on 30.6.198Q. as reported by Castes and 7-112% for Scheduled Tribes Reserve Bank of IndIa. IS gIven in the State- corresponds broadly to their population at ment below. the All India level. 195 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 196

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Closure of Indian Investment Centres India Investment Centre in Delhi would attend to NRJ related matters. 818. SHR\ KUSUMA KRlSHNA MURTHY: Demands ot Doordarshanl A.I.R. Per- SHRI P.M. SAYEED: sonnel SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: DR. C. SILVERA: 819. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: PROF. K.V. THOMAS: SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR SHRI NANI BHATTACHARYA: GANGWAR:
Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND to state: BROADCASTING be pleased to state:
(a) whether Government propose to (a) the main demands of the agitating close India Investment Centres, Tourist Of- Programme personnels belonging to Door- fices and India Supply Missions abroad; darshan and All India Radio; and
(b) if so. the details thereof and the (b) the response of Government details of the countries where the Indian thereto? Investment Centres are proposed to be closed; THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (c) the annual savings likely to be made PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. after the proposed closure of IICs; UPENDRA): (a) The main demand of the Programme Staff Association of All India (d) whether the Non-resident Indians Radio and Doordarshan is the constitution of are against the closure of lies: and the Indian Broadcasting (Programme) Serv- ice. (e) if so, the steps proposed to be taken by Government in this regard? (b) The Government have taken steps for early constitution of the proposed Serv- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ice. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. Income Tax Raids
(b) It is proposed to close down the 820. DR. C. SILVERA: Will the Minister overseas offices of IIC in Tokyo, New York, of FINANCE be pleased to state: London, Frankfurt, Abu Dhabi and Singapore. (a) whether some Income Tax raids (c) The annual savings from this are have been conducted in different parts of the likely to be to the extent of Rs. 22.80 crores co~ntry during January to July, 1990; (based on HC's Budget estimates at 1990- 91 ). (b) whether these raids have also been conducted in certain houses and premises (d) and (e). Government have received of assesses against whom no arrears of representations from some of the NRls income tax were pending; and against the closure of the IIC's overseas offices. The Indian MiSSIon overseas and the (c) if so, the reasons for such raids? 231 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 232
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE The searches are authorised only on MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- the satisfaction of any of these conditions. TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. Export of Indian Films During last (b) and (c). Outstanding arrears of Three Years Income tax is not a criterion for auth'orising a search under the provisions of Income Tax 821. SHRI NATHU SINGH: Will the Act. Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: Section 132 of the Income Tax Act provides that a search can be authorised by (a) the number of India films exported the Director General or Director or the Dep- during last three years; uty Comr.,issioner. dS may be empowered in this behalf by the Board. when in conse- (b) the amount of foreign exchange quenc.G of Information in hiS possession he earned therefrom; and has reason to believe that: (c) the steps Government propose to (i) any person has omitted or failed to take to promote export of Indian films? produce such books of accounts or other documents as required un- THE MIN ISTER OF INFORMATION der a summons or notice specified AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTEROF in clause (a) of sub section 1 to PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Section 132, or UPENDRA): (a) and (b). The number of Indian feature films exported by the National (ii) any person to whom a summons or Film Development Corporation (NFDC). a notice as aforesaid has been or public sector enterprise under this Ministry, might be issued, will not produce during the lastthree years and the amount of any books of accounts or other foreign exchange earned thereon are given documents which will be useful for in the statement-I below. The export docu- or relevant to any proceeding un- ments are maintained financial year-wise by der the Income-tax Act, or the Corporation.
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STATEMENT-II 6. Foreign delegates are invited regularly for Indian Markets or Steps taken by the National Film Devel- otherwise thereby creating a opment Corporation to promote export of meeting ground for buyers and Indian feature films; Indian exporters.
1. To regulate prices at market 7. NFDC advertises in leading for- sustainable levels, export canali- eign film journals during Film sation procedures which entail Festivals/Market thus creating an the following have been stream- added awareness and exposure lined: of Indian films.
Registration of contracts 8. NFDC prepares marketing tools such as video cassettes, sub- Price approval based on rec- stitled prints and pUblicity mate- ommendation of pricing Con- rials of India films used for pro- sultative Committee, consist- motion during Film Festivals! ing of experts from the Film Markets. Industry. 9. NFDC has exclusive agreements Endorsement of shipping with several State agencies documents. where NFDC makes vigorous efforts to sell Indian films. 2. Regional and Central Film AdVI- sory Committees have been 10. Vigorous efforts are made to sell established where representa- Indian films on TV networks tives of Film Industry and export- overseas. ers are Invited to advise the NFDC regarding export promotion [ Translation) measures. Allotment Through Discretionary Quota 3. NFDC teams regularly partici- by SAIL pate in major International film markets with prints/cassettes 822. SHRI HARSH VARDHAN: Will the exposing Indian films at Interna- Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased tional Market fora. to state the extent of discretionary quota allotted by Steel ~uthority of India Ltd. during 4. Trade delegations comprising the each month of the year i 989-90 and upto representatives of Industry and June, 1990 and the categories of people to NFDC Visit countries where whom it was allotted? special effolts are necessary.
THE MIN ISTER OF STEEL AND MINES 5. Film Markets are organised AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE alongwith Indian International (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): SAIL (exclud- Film Festivals/Filmotsav so that ing liSCO) has allotted the following quanti- producers can ~xhibit their prod- ties of steel items to actual consumers in ucts for prospective buyers. Status 'A' 'B' and 'c' priority groups during 237 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 238 the April '89 to June 1990, out of the main Proposal for Translation of Regional producers'reserve. Film in Hindi
('000 tonnes) 825. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARDWAJ: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 1 2 BROADCSTING be pleased to state:
April - June '89 2.4 (a) whether therQ is any proposal under the consideration of Government to trans- July-Sept. '89 1.2 latethe regional films shown on TV, in Hindi, so that the Hindi knowing people may also Oct.-Dec. '89 1.4 get acquainted with the culture and traditions of other States to which they are not Jan. -March '90 0.6 fam iliar; and
April-June '90 0.3 (b) if not, the obstacles being expe:-i- enced by Government in this regard?
[English] THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. Setting up of Steel Plant in Orissa UPENDRA): (a) and (b). The dubbing of regional language films into Hindi presents severe technical and aesthetic limitations 823. SHRI LO~ANATH CH- and involved considerable expenditure. The OUDHURY: regional feature films telecast by Door- SHRt GOPI NATH GAJAPA- darshan over its national network, therefore, THI: normally carry English sub-titles and in the absence of such sub-titles a gist of the story Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES is given at the commencement of the tele- be pleased to state: cast of the film. The sub-titling in Hindi would have been more feasible but the facility (a) whether Government have received available for the purpose in the country are any proposal from Orissa Government about inadequate and unecononomical. setting up an integrated high-tech shore based steel plant at Paradeep; Vacant Scheduled Castes/Scheduled (b) if so. the details thereof and Govern- Tribes posts in India Security Press, ment's reaction thereto; and Nashik & Gandhinagar
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Revision of Voters List in Assam THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 827. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be The current electoral rolls in the State of pleased to state: Assam which were finally published on 23rd - December, 1989 were prepared with refer- (a) whetherthe Chief Election Commis- ence to 1.4.89 as the qualifying date. With r; sioner of India has issued a circular recently the change of the calender year the qualify- for revision of the voters list of Assam; ing date for revision of rolls too has under- gone a change and now the qualifying date (b) if so, the details thereof; is 1.1.90. To update the electoral rolls with reference to new qualifying date as wellps to (c) whether it is a fact that tnQ term of ensure that only eligible persons are in- Assam Legislative Assembly will expire in cluded in the electoral rolls and no ineligible 1990; and person is included in the electoral roll, the Commission has ordered a special revision (d) if so, the steps being taken by Government to have Assembly and Parlia- of the electoral rolls as per the following mentary Elections in Assam simultaneously? programme:-
(i) Draft publication 28.5.90
(ii) Last date for filling of claims and objections 21.5.90
(iii) Last date for disposal of claims and objections 5.9.90
(iv) Printing of supplement and final publication of roll ... 25.9.90
The Commission has issued detailed Special Awards of Seventh and Eight guidelines to the Electoral Registration Otti· Finance Commission for Tribal Areas cers to ensure by exercising Suo Motu power under the Registration of Electors Rules, 828. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the 1960 that no names of ineligible persons are Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: included in the rolles and no names of eligible persons are excluded from the rolls. (a) whether there were some specific awards in Seventh and Eighth Finance (c) The term of present Legislative Commission Reports providing special allot- Assembly of Assam is to be expire on ments for upgradation of Administration in 8.1.1991. tribal areas such as allotment for buildings for staff, incentive allowance or compensa- (d) A special revision of electoral rolls in tory allowance for the staff employed there; in Assam is progress. After the revision is completed, the Commission would consider (b) whether such allotments have also a suitable programme for holding elections been made by the Ninth Finance Commis· to fill Lok Sabha seats as well as for holding sion; general elections to the State Legislative Assembly. (c) if not, whether his Ministry will pro- 247 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 248 vide thi~ allotment for the tribal areas; and (a) the number of applications received by Government during 1989 for the appoint- (d) if not, the procedure adopted by ment of notary Public in West Delhi area; Union Government to continue this process? (b) the details of appointments made so far; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- (c) if not, the time by which these TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. appointments are likely to be made.
(b) to (d). The Ninth Finance Commis- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES sion in its First Report have recommended AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE upgradatioll grants for 1989-90 for the fol- (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Only one. lowing h .... schemes in tribal areas i.e. (i) housing units; and (ii) capital outlay for (b) the application was duly considered villages.lf! the case of deficit States, the and rejected. grants-in-aid recommended by the Commis- sion took into account the liability on account (c) Does not arise. of continuance of payment of compensatory allowance to the employees posted in tribal Castor Oil Exports areas. In the case of surplus States, the surplus was worked out after allowing for 830. PROF. SHAILENDRA NATH such payrr. :.:nt. SHRIVASTAVA: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: The Nillth Finance Commission in their Second Repe 1 for the period 1990-95 have (a) whether some exporters of castor oil adopted "no. 'ative approach" in assessing procured certificates from Agmark Authori- the revenue r~'ceipts and expenditures. The ties in the name of castor oil B.P.; Commission have not recommended any specific grants-in-aid for upgradation of the (b) whether the castor oil exporters also service because "the need for upgrading obtained from Government a substantial these services in States where the are below amount as Cash Compensatory Support average has been taken care of in the norms" given for export of castor oil B.P. between adopted by the Commission. The Ministry of July, 1986 an~ June, 1989; and Welfare have advised the State Govern- ments that the scheme of payment of com- (c) if so, the action Government pro- pensatory allowance t~ the employt3es in pose to take against those castor oil export- tribal areas be \, ontinued with the provision ers who obtained Cash Compensatory under devolved funds. As regards the con- Support from Government? struction of staff quarters in tribal areas in infra-structure development in tribal villages, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE since they' involved new investments, they MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- would form part ot the Plan programmes. ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Export of castor oil is subject to compulsory grading Appointment of Notary Public In Delhi and certification under Agmark by Director- 829. SHRI JAGANNATH SINGH: Will ate of Marketing and Inspection, Depart- the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be ment of Rural Development. No complaint pleased to state: has been received by the Directorate of 249 Written Answef.S SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 250
Marketing and Inspection from importers AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE about the quality of castor oil exported from (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Va Sir. India. (b) Under the Industrial Development (b) Cash Compensatory Support@5% Bank of India Act mining is treated as an was paid on exports of castor oil of Medicinal industry for the purpose 01 financing. grace with effect from 1.7. 1986. The question of inlcusion of mining as (c) Does not arise. an industry under the industries (Develop- ment and Regulation) Act had also been Exploitation of Garnet in Bhilwara considered by Government bl t it was not (Rajasthan) found feasible.
831. SHRI HEMENDRA SINGH BAN- [ Translation] ERA: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: New Housing Finance Subsidiary
(a) whether Government are aware that 833. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- granet is found in large quantity in Bhilwara TIL: Will the Ministerof FINANCE be pleased district of Rajasthan; and to state:
(b) if so, the steps taken/propose.d to be (a) whether a new housing finance taken by Government for commercial exploi- subsidiary of the General Insurance Corpo- tation of garnet mining In that area? ration has been constituted as reported in the Business Standard of July 21, 1990; THE MINISTEROF STEELANDMINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (b) the total amount invested in the (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Garnet is above subsidiary: found in Bhilwara district of Rajasthan; (c) the facilities proposed to be pro- (b) Mining leases are being granted for vided in rural areas especially to farmers, exploitation of garnet and at present five labourers and the people belonging to eco- mining leases are in operation. noroidilly weaker sections through this new institution; and Proposal for Giving Industry Status °to Mining (d) the percentage of amount earmarked for giving loans to farmers, labourers and 832. SHRI Y.S. RAJA SEKHAR economically weaker sections for house- REDDY: Will the Minister of STEEL AND building? MINES be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) whether the Federation of Indian MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- Mineral Industries has urged that industry TRI): (a) GIG Grih Vitta Ltd. (GGVL) has status be given to mining; and been incorporated as a Company on 12th December, 1989. (b) if so, Government's reaction thereto? (b) While authorised capital of the THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES Company is Rs. 50 Crores, the initial sub- 251 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 252
scribed and paid up capital is Rs. 5 Crores. [English} Out of Rs. 5 Crores, GIC and Subsidiaries would subscribe to the extent of 49.5% i.e., SC/ST Employees of Malanjkhand _ As. 247.50 lakhs and the balance 50.5% is Copper Project being raised from other financial institutions, namely. ICICI. IFCI, UTI, HDFC and S81 834. SHAJ KANKAR MUNJAAE: Will Capital Markets Ltd. the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (c) and (d). No specific percentage has (a) the numberof Harijan/Adivasilhandi- been earmarked for giving loans to farmers capped employees in various categories in and economically weaker sections but spe- Malanjkhand Copper Project; and cial preference will be given to persons in low & middle incomegroup. The Company would (b) the total amount being spent to- function on all India basis. To begin with wards pay and allowances of the staff? centres have been set up at some irrportant cities in the country. housing loan applica- THE MIN ISTER OF STEEL AND MINES tions from applicants belonging to SC/ST, AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE widows of Defence Personnel killed in action (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Number of Scheduled Caste, Sc.;heduled Tribe, and and physically handicapped persons will be Handicapped employees, category-wise, in given special treatment. Malanjkhand Copper Project is as follows:-
Group SC ST Handicapped
A 11 2
8
C 100 134 5
o 81 379 4
(b) Total Amount being spent towards "Export ~ncentive" scheme during the same pay & allowances on the employees in period? Malankhand Copper Project is Rs. 2,35,43,312 per annum. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Exports During 1989-90 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) According to 835. SHRI JAG PAL SINGH: Will the the provisional figures, India's exports dur- Ministerot COMMERCE be pleased 10 state: ing 1989-90 amounted to Rs. 27681 crores.
(a) the total value of exports during (b) An expenditure of Rs. 2014.34 crores , 989-90; and was incurred from the Market Development Assistance during i 989-90 on various export (b) the total amount involved under incentive schemes. 253 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 254 f Translation] SHRIK.MURALEESHARAN: SHRI CHITTA BASU: New Item Captioned 'Kachra Binane Walon Par Bani Film Ka Kachra Bana Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE Oala' be pleased to state:
836. SHRI BENGALI SINGH: (a) whether the judicial system of the SHRI HARISH PAL: country is oomplex and time consuming; and
Willthe Ministerot INFORMATION AND (b) if sO,the steps being taken by Gov- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ernment to make it simple, accessible and expeditious? (a) whether attention of Government has been drawn to the news-item appearing THE MIN ISTER OF STEEL AND MINES in Navbharat 'Times' dated 14th May, 1990 AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE undenhe caption 'Kachra Binane Walon Par (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). In Bani Film Ka Kachra Bana Dala' order to streamline the funcitoning of the courts and to expedite disposal of cases, (b) if so, the reaction of Government Government entrusted the study of judicial thereon: reforms to the 11 th Law Commission which, inter alia, aimed at decentralisation of the (c) whether any steps are being taken system of admmistration of justice. reforms by Government to telecast this film on Door- of procedural laws, improvement in the darshan; and method of appointments to judIciary, reduction In the cost of litigation etc. The Commis- (d) it not. the reasons therefor? sion has submitted 18 reports. The Govern- ment have also set up a three-member THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION Committee of Chief Justices to look into the AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF problem of arrears in Courts. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) Yes, Sir. Dissemination of Sindhi Programmes
(b) to (d). All the TV programmes as- 839. SHRI S.C. VERMA: Will the Min- signed to outside producers are previewed ister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- by a Committee for assessing their overall ING be pleased to state: suitability. The TV programme entitled "Maili Sugandh" referred to in the news item has (a) whether Government have exam- not so far been previewed by the present ined the feasibility of increasing the duration Committee. Doordarshan have, however, of Sindhi programmes, being telecast by been advised to take prompt action to place Bombay Doordarshan, by half-an-hour dur- it before the Committee for final decision. ing a week and also starting a programme in Full payment has, however, since been re- Sindhi of Half-an-hour duration from Aka- leased to the Producer . shvani. Bombay;
. Judicial System SHAKYA: programme from Akashvant. WuO'€:~ tn 255 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 256
(c) whether Government propose to (a) the details of places to be covered start the regular telecast of programmes in by Doordarshan in next two years in Kama- Sindhi language from Delhi Doordarshan; taka; and . and (b) the centres to be covered by High (d) the other steps proposed to be taken Power Transmitters in Karnataka? by the Ministry to acquaint the people with Sindhi Culture? THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt p. AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF UPENDRA): (a) and (b). Two high power (10 PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt P. KW) TV transmitters under implementation, UPENDRA): (a) Doordarshan Kendra, one each at Dharwad and Shimoga are Bombay. had been telecasting Sindhi pro- envisaged to be commissioned into service grammes of 30 mts. duration twice a month during 1991 as a part of spill-over scheme of Channel II. Recently the Kendra has in- from the VII Plan. However, the VIII Plan creased the frequency of this programme allocation not having been made by the from twice a month to thrice a month. Planning Commission so tar, it is not possible to indicate the details of the TV projects All India Radio, Bombay, is already to be set up in the State under the VIII Plan. broadcasting Sindh programmes for a duration of half an hour twice a week. Religious Serial to be Telecast on Doordarshan (b) No, Sir: 841. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: (c) No, Sir: and Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (d) Fourteen stations of All India Radio broadcast Sind hi programmes to acquaint '"(a) whether serial based on religious the people with the rich Sindhi culture and themes other than Hindu religion are pro- heritage. Songs in Sindhi are also included posed to be telecast on Doordarshan: and in Vividh Bharati programmes broadcasttrom 29 stations of All India Radio. Sindhi pro- (b) if so, the details thereof? grammes of 2112 hours duration are broadcast daily in External Services of All India THE MIN ISTER OF INFORMATION Radio. AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. e mounts UPENDRA): (a) and (b). It is the endeavour indhi cul- of Doordarshan to telecast high quality programmes on socio~cultural themes with universal values. This is a continuing process.
Cashew Exports oor-
JARY: 843. SHRI MULlAPPAlLY RAMA- AND CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state: 257 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 258
(a) whether cashew export has re- cashew exports has increased when com- corded an increase during the first six months pared to the previous year; and of the current year; (e) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) what proportion of the nation's MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- cashew export is contributed by the State of ANGIL SHREEDHARAN); (a) Yes, Sir. Kerala; (b) Export of cashew kernels during (d) whether Kerala's contribution 10 January-June, 1989 & 1990 were:
MT Rs. Crores
2 3
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January-June 1990 (E) 20795 170.06
(P)-Provisional (E)-Estimate
(c) to (e). Export Statistics are not reported from this coast and the quantity and maintained on the basis of states of origin. value of confiscated goods; and
Smuggling Activities Along Tamil Nadu (c) the measure being adopted by Coast Government to prevent such smuggling activities on this coast? 844. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to -state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN ISTRY OF FI NANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- (a) whether there ha& been- an increase TRI): (a) and (b). The number of cases in smuggling activities along the Tamil Nadu booked and the value of contraband goods coast, especially in Tanjore district during seized by the Customs authorities having , 989-90; jurisdiction over the Tamil Nadu Coast and the Coastline of Tanjore district are 'given in (b) the number of smuggling cases the table below: 259 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 260
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It is not possible to estimate whether statement of accounts and duplicate pass smuggling activities have increas~d on these books, inland guarantees, stop payment coasts during the financial year 1389-90. instructions, standing instructions, etc.
(c) The anti-smuggling drive has how- (c) Some representations have been ever been intensified and the Customs au- received by Government in this regard. thorities have been suitably alerted. Close co-operation is being maintained between (d) Since the revisions are related to all the agencies concerned with the detec- cost inputs of banks in relation to their serv- tion and prevention of smuggling on this ices, no immediate re-examination is con- coast. Active assistance of the Coast Guard templated. and the Navy is also being taken. Action for Non-Liquidation of Preferen- Raising of Service Charges by Banks tial Convertible Debentures
845. SHRI B.N. REDDY: 846. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister SHRI PALAI.K.M. MATHEW: of FINANCE be pleased to state:
Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) the details of action taken against to state: firms which have not liquidated preferential convertible debentures as on date; and (a) whether Government have decided to raise the various service charges by 25 (b) whether any instructions have been per cent from the a<.."'Count-holders in the issued in this regard to the Controller of nationalised banks: Capital Issues and if so, the details thereof?
(b) if so. the details thereof; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (c) whether there is demand for reduc- TRI): (a) There is no such instrument as tion/withdrawal of the Increase in bank serv- preferential convertible debentures. There- ice charges; and fore, question of taking action against firms does not arise. (d) if so. the action taken!proposed to be taken by Government In this regard? (b) Does not arise.
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Technical Consultancy Organisations MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI AN IL SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). PubliC sector banks have 847. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will revised theIr service charges with effect from the Mtnisterof FINANCE be pleased to state: 1.7.90 taking tnlO account the cost of inputs in relatIon to the service rendered by them. The charges have been increased in respect (a) the steps Government are taking to of certain services such as processing in utilise the services of Technical Consultancy applications for advances exceeding Rs. 2 Organisations set up by the Industrial Devel- lakhs, remittances of drafts! Mail Transfers/ opment Bank of India (1081), the Industrial Telegraphic Transfers beyond Rs. 2500/-, Finance Corporation of India (IFCI) and the MICR cheque books (excludIng savings bank Industrial Credit and Investment Corpora- account of Individuals), Issue of duplicate tion of India (ICICI) after the formation of the 263 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 264
Small Industries Development Bank of India vised that they should develop an appropri- (SIDBI); ate businElss-mix so as to achieve viability in their operations while performing their pro- (b) whether these organisations are motion role. likely to become sick as they have not been able to offer services at low cost to SSt units It has been reported by lOBI that as per in backward regions; and latest financial results available for the year ended 31 st Marcy, 1989, a number of TeOs (c) if so, the steps Government are viz. those in J&K, Guwahati, U.P., West taking to strengthen these organisations to Bengal, Gujarat, Tam'ilnadu, Haryana, Hima- enable them to 'help small entrepreneurs? chal Pradesh, Maharashtra and Punjab-had been able to generate cash surpluses. Other THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE TeOs are expected to stabilise their finan- MINISTR't OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- cial position with the development of appro- TRI): (a) to (c), Technical Consultancy priate business mix and with higher busi- Organisations (TCOs) are basically designed ness turn over. to carry out industrial potential surveys and render technical consultancy services for Trade auantum with Sri Lanka, Paki- the development of small and medium in- stan, Bangladesh and Nepal dustries in their respective jurisdictions. Thus, even after formation of SIDBI, services of 848. SHAI PRAKASH V.PATIL: Will the TCOs would be needed by the sponsoring Ministerof COMMERCE be pleasedto state: all-India financial institutions. TeOs will also be functionally associated with SlOB!. (a) the quantum of India's trade with Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal lOBI and other financial institutions have during the last three years, year-wise and been giving specific assignments to TeOs in country-wise and reasons for upward/down- the fields of surveys, special studies, entre- ward trend in each case; and preneurial development programmes, etc. In addition, lOBI is giving them support to- (b) the total foreign trade position dur- walds training of personnel so as to enable ing the last three years, year-wise? them to develop necessary expertise in their organisations. The sponsoring institutions have also augmented their share capital THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE over the years .. So far as their assignments MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- for the small scale sector industries are ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). The concerned, lOBI is operating a scheme for details of the year-wise and country-wise subsidising their modernjs~tion and rehabili- trade of India with Sri Lanka, Pakistan, tation assignments, under which a subsidy is Bangladesh and Nepal and in total are gives given to TCO.s. TeOs have also been ad- as under:- 265 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 266 "0 C en 0 ~ 0 GO C") GO to ,..... to c.o (f) 0, It) :¥ ci an ,...: ai cr) (5 N 0 ,..... C") m ..... -q- 0 a.. N >- to .0 "0 t/) :::I en <.> c: (]) Q) .0 t/) en ..r::: en ., (/) -E -~ rn ....J e(.) ()') 0:> to ,..... I'- N 0> u) v 0 v 0 I'- cI5 cb "'t 0:: 0:> «i 0) <.0 N C"),....._ :S .S Q) I'- 0 I'- C") .~ N ,....._m (]) (l) ~ V "0 ~ g -- .£ (l) .S C3 Q) "0 (l) ..c: I- 0> c .~
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Gold Smuggling the anti-smuggling drive, maintaining close co-ordination .between all the agencies concerned in the detection and prevention of 850. SHRI SAN AT KUMAR MAN- smuggling of gold and providing sophisti- DAL: cated equipments such as X-ray machines. SHRI KARIA MUNDA: metal detectors etc. to the anti-smuggling formations .. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Rupee Devaluation
851. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: (a) the reasons for the India Govern- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to ment mint stopping to refine/recylcle gold; state:
(b) whether this has created an artificial (a) whether the rupee has slipped shortage of gold in market and boosted gold against Pound Sterling and if so, to what smuggling; extent;
(c) its effect on market price of gold; and (b) whether the rupee has also depreciated against some other major currencies (d) the measures Government propose like Dollar, etc. and if so, the details thereof; to take to ,meet this new situation and stop smuggling and black-marketing of gold? (c) whether a further fall in the external value of the rupee is also likely; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FlNANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (d) if so, the steps Government propose TRI): (a) to (d). Consequent upon the repeal to take to stop the process of a hidden of Gold Control Act, processing publi/mer- devaluation continuing unabted at the cur- chant gold was suspended temporarily by rent level? the Government of India Mints for making administrative arrangements. Such processing has since been resumed. Gold has been THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE traditionally sensitive to smuggling into the MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- country. However, no reasonable estimate TRI): (a) and (b). The rupee has depreciated of such smuggling is possible. Since gold is against the Pound Sterling and some other not an essential commodity, Government currencies, namely, the US $, Deutsche has not found it necessary to regu\a\e the Mark, and Yen. The date on annual aver- prlce oi go\d. However, in order to curb the ages of rupee value against these curren- smuggling of gold various measures have cies for the period 1985-86 to 1989-90 (April- been taken which include intensification of Ma'rch) are given below: 269 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Writtsn Answsrs 270
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(c) and (d). The exchange rate of the duction of steel during 1989-90 and 1990-91 rupee is fixed from time to time with refer- including Secondary Steel Sector; ence to the value of a basket of currencies, mainly of countries which are India's major (b) whether any planltarget has been trading partners. In a regime of floating fixed for production of steel by 1994-95; exchange rates, upward or downwcard movements of the value of the rupee, which de- (c) if so, the details thereof; and pends on fluctuations in the values ot these currencies, is a normal phenomenon. (d) whether there is any proposal to stop the export of iron ore in near future?
THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES ~~Q ~\~\S1ER Of L~W ~ND JUST\CE 852. SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: Will (SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The total the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be assessed demand and production of fin- pleased to state: ished steel during 1989-90 and estimates tor 1990-91, including that of the Secondary (a) the approxImate demand and pro- Steel Sector, is as foHows:
(ODD (onnes)
Year Assessed Demand Production
2 3
14810 12963
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(b) and (c). The production target of {b) how it was disposed of and at what finished mild steel for 1994-95 is 22.92 mil- price? lion tonnes.
(d) At present there is no proposal to THE MINISTEROF STEEL AND MINES stop the export of iron ore. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) During Production of Ammonium Phosphate at 1989-90, 4461 tonnes of Ammonium Sul- V.S.P. phate (not Am monium Phosphate) was produced at V .S.P. which was marketed 853. SHRJ RAJAMOHAN REDDY: Will under the trade name of 'Pushkala'. the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) 3400 tonnes of Ammonium Sul- (a) the quantum of Ammonium Phos- phate was sold to the institutional agencies phate names of as "PUSHKALA" produced of Andhra Pradesh at a price of RS. 1560/- in Vozag Steel Plant Operations during 1989- per tonne. The balance was carried forward 90; and as stock to 1990-91. 273 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 274
Import of Cast Iron Scrap AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL 854. SHRI SAL VANT MANVAR: Will MALIK): (a) to (c). The Department of Tour- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to " ism have prioritiesed two wayside amenities state: at Mukteshwar and Ramgarh tn the Kumaun region in consultation with the State Govern- (a) whether Government have received ment for the year 1990-91. Detailed propos- representations for putting cast .iron scrap als with estimates have, however, not been under O.G.l. list; received from the State Government.
(b) if so, the details thereof; and Devetopment of Open Cast Mining Technology at H.Z.L., Udaipur (c) the reaction of Government thereon? 856. SHRI KAllASH MEGHWAl: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be MINISTfW Of COMMERCE (SHRt AR~ pleased to state: ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Suggestions have been received for (a) whether the Hindustan Zinc Limited, altowtng import of cast iron scrap under Udaipur has entered into a technical collabo- Open General Licences on the ground that ration with an Australian Company for the use of cast iron scrap in place of pig iron in development of open cast mining in their the manufacture of castings would result in Rampura-Agucha Mines; saving of foreign exchange. (b) if so, the reason thereof: and (c) Import of cast iron scrap is already permissible up full value of freely transfer- (c) the numbers multinational compa- able REP licences and against flexibility nies which quoted tor this project and the available on Additional Licences. As regards reasons for selecting the Australian technol- importunder O.G.L. the matter is under ogy? examination in consultation with the Ministry of Steel. THE MINISTEROF STEElAND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE ConS\fUC\\on 0' Co\\ages anci Re$\au- ~SHR\ O\NESH GOSWAM\): ~a) No. S'{. rants in Kumoun Hills (b) and (c). Do not arise. 855. SHRt M.S.pAL: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased to state: Determination of Bank Interest Rates
(a) whether there is any proposal to 857. SHRJ KAllASH MEGHWAL: Will construct cottages and restaurants in the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Kumoun hills: (a) the procedure followed in the deter- (b) if so, the details thereof; and mination of bank interest rates (lending and deposit)~ (c) the estimated expenditure involved? (b) whether these are fixed unilaterally THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE by Government and communicated to the MiNISTRY OF PARLIAMENT ARY AFFAIRS banks for execution "or these are fixed by the 275 Written AnswelS AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnswelS 276
banks after due consultations; various measures initiated to improve the services in public sector banks. Further, (c) whether representatives of consum- during the course of inspection by RBI and ers are also consulted before varying the the banks' own internal inspections. the ef- interest rates and service charges; fectiveness of service is also looked into.
(d) whether the banks have advisory Expenditure Incurred on Indian Invest- councils at all levels including the branch ment Centres level and whether these council are active; 858. SHRI D. AMAT: Will the FINANCE (e) whether there is any system of MINISTER be pleased to state: monitoring and random surveys to study the effectiveness of banks services to the cus- (a) the total expenditure incurred on . tomers: and Indian Investment centre during 1988-89 and 1989-90; (f) if so, the details thereof? (b) the amount spent in foreign ex- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE change out of them in each year; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (c). The lending and deposit (c) the details of the total foreign invest- rates of scheduled commecial bank are ments approved by Government during the prescribed by the Reserve Bank of India. above period year-wise; and The structure of lending rate of banks is determined taking into account a number of (d) the amount out of this investment, factors such as relative priorities accorded to obtained through the efforts of Indian Invest- various sectors of the economy/sections of ment Centres? population, growth rate of the economy, the rate of inflation, the pace of monetary expan- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sion, the cost of raising resources of banks MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- and the profitability of banks, etc. While TRI): (a) to {d) ... The total expenditure in- formulating such rates, the RBI takes into curred on Indian Investment Centre during account overall developments in the coun- 1988-89 was Rs. 309.78 lakhs and during try, the special requirements and demands 1989-90 Rs. 360 lakhs. Out of this, the from various sectors and the size of the foreign currency expenditure was Rs. 208.73 borrowings. lakhs in 1988-89 and Rs. 264.07 lakhs in 1989-90. The figure_s of foreign investment (d) The nationalised banks constitute approvals for calender years 1988-1989 are advisory committees on such specific mat- as follows: ters as considered necessary by them. Besides, for redressal of grievances of cus- 1988 Rs. 239.75 crores tomers, the banks have evolved suitable grievance redressal machinery at different 1989 Rs. 316.66 crores levels including at branch level. Indian investments Centre is a promo- (e) and (f). Reserve Bank of India and tional agency. hs objective is to dissemiate the banks have been conducting sample information regarding ourforeign investment surveys through reputed institutIOns period,- and NRI investment poliCies, and to pro- cally to ascertain the effIcacy and impact of vided assistance to potential investors. It ;s 277 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 278 difficult to quantity the investment approvals I below. that can be ascribed directly to the efforts of the Indian Investment Centre. (b) Information is given in Statement-II below. Self Sufficiency In Currency Note. (c) Yes, Sir. 859. SHRID.AMAT:WiIltheMinisterof FINANCE be pleased to state: (d) To bridge the gap between the demand for and the supply of currencylbank (a) the estimate of Reserve Bank of notes, the following steps have been taken:- India of the requirement of currency notes for circulation during the last three years, de- (i) The existing two note printing nomination-wise and year-wise: presses at Dewas and Nasik have ben put on two-shift working of (b) the details of actual currency notes " hours each. printed and put into circulation. value. denomination and year-wise, during the above (ii) The Government have decided period; to set up two new Note Print\ng Presses~ one at Sa\bon\ ~Wes\ (c) whether there was a shortiall in the Bengal) and the other at Mysore printing of notes as compared to demand: (Karnataka). and (iii) A decision has been taken to (d) if so, the steps taken in this regard? coiniseprogressively Rs. 1/-, As. 2/- and Rs. 5/- denomination THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE notes so as to utilise the capacity MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- so released tor printing ot higher TRI): (a) Information is given in Statement- denomination notes. 279 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 280
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(b) if so, the terms and conditions on (c) and (d). During the Seventh Plan which such services were offered to each of period (1985-90) ITDC transferred seven the private sector hotel projects during the small travellers' lodges to the State Corpora· above period with quantum of gains in return tions and one restaurant to the Delhi Tour· to ITDC from each offer; ism Development Corporation. The main. reason for their transfer was ope rat ion all (c) whether a number of ITOC own managerial difficulty becuase of their far units/establishments were also transferred flung locations. uneconomic size (4 to e to the private sector as well as to State rooms) and for ensuring better supervision Governments/Corporations during the said and oontrol by the State/U. T. Government period; and Corporations. 285 Writtsn Answsrs SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written AnswB~ 286
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Foreign Exchange Earnings and (c) if SO, the reasons therefor; Expenditure by I. T.D.C. (d) the details of the trips undertaken by 861. SHRI ASHOK ANANDRAO individuals/groups of executives of I.T.D.C. DESHMUKH: Will the Minister of TOURISM during the above period; and be pleased to state: (e) t~e achievementslbenefits derived (a) the amount of foreign exchange by the India Tourism Development Corpora- earned and spent by India Tourism Develop- tion out of these visits? ment Corporation from 1986-87 to March, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1990; MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· (b) whether there has been an increase TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL in the foreign exchange spending during the MALIK): (a) The requisite information is above period: given below:
Year Foreign Exchange
Earned Spent (Rupees in Crores)
2 3
1986-8'7 18.92 6.58
1987-88 19.93 8.68
1988-89 21.85 10.36
28.36 13.46
The foreign exchange earned does not bodies (like World Tourism Organisation, include the foreign eXChange received by Pacific Asia Travel Association, American the Travel Agents and paId to ITDC in Indian SOCiety of Travel Agents etc.). Though quan- Currency. tification of benefits from each individual foreign tour in terms of business generation (b) and (c). The increase in foreign is not feasible, these have helped ITDC in exchange spending is mainly due to import achieving increased profitability. of goods for sale at Duty Free Shops at International Airports against foreign cur- [ Translation] rency. Indian Refractories Limited in Pithora- (d) and (e). The foreign tours have garh (U.P.) been/are undertaken by ITDC executives in connection with foreign projects/ventures, 862. SHRI RAMESHWAR PRASAD: holding Food Festivals of India abroad. par- Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be ticipation in annual conventions of \Norld pleased to state: 291 Wttt.n Answers AUGUST 10. 1990 WItten AnsWMS 292
(8) whether the work at the Magneite THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Project of Indian Refractories Limited in MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS· Pithoragarh (U.P.) has been stopped; TRI): (a) to (d). Government had earlier decided that the Purbanchal Bank Limited (b) whether Government propose to (PBl). Guwahati. may be converted into a close down this factory; subsidiary company of the State Bank of India by transferring the shareholding held (c) if SO, the reasons therefor; and by the United Bank of India to State Bank of India. There were representations both from (d) the steps taken to resume the work Purbanchal Bank Employees Association there? as also from the ASsam Provincial Bank Employees Association urging that the Pur- THE MINISTER OFSTEELAND MINES banchal Bank Ltd. may be merged either AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE with Central Bank of Indiil or with any other (SHRIDtNESHGOSWAMI):(a)to(d). Bharat nationalised bank. Keeping the interests of Refractories Limited had a proposal to set up the employees as well as the depositors of a Rotary Kiln Complex at Pithoragarh (De- the bank in view, it has now been decided to valthal) for production 01 Dead Burnt Magne- amalgamate the Purbanchal Bank Ltd. with site to cater to the needs of their refractory Central Bank 01 India. plant situated at Bhilai. The financial and economic viability of the project became Investments by Residents of Madhya doubtful on account of changes in circum- Pradesh In UTI stances of the refractory industry. Decision to implement the project could not, there- 864. SHRI PRAHLAD SINGH PATEL: fore, be taken. Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Amalgamation of Purbanchal Bank Limited with Central Bank of India (a) the amount of money invested by the residents of Madhya Pradesh in the units 863. SHRI RAMESHWAR PRASAD: of the Unit Trust of India (UTI) upto 31 st Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to March, 1990; state: (b) whether the Unit Trust of India has (a) whether Government have taken a invested some amount out of this for th'e decision to amalgamate the Purbanchal Bank development of Madhya Pradesh; and Limited with the Central Bank of India; (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) whether Government have received any memorandum from the employees of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Purbanchal Bank Limited against the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- amalgamation; TRI): (a) The total sale of units of Unit Trust of India in Madhya Pradesh during it's fil1an- (c) the details of the other representa- cial year 1989-90 (July-June) is 31.30 crores. tions received against the amalgamation; and ._ (b) and (c). The UTI invests its funds in various securities such as equity shares and (d) the adion taken/proposed to be debentrures of companies and these are taken by Government in this reaarti? mainly by way of secondary market opera- 293 WrMM Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) WItten AnSwe13 294 tions through various Stock Exchanges. The Proposals otherwise viable should not be un does not maintain Statewise data of it's turned down merety tor want of such collat- investments through the Stock Exchanges. eral security or third party guarantee. AJI Apart from such investments, the UTI also complaints against the working of public provides direct assistance to the corporate sector banks are taken up with the banks MCIOr by way of term loans, deposits etc. concerned for appropriate action. Taking sUch direct assistance given by the UTI to into consideration the seriousness of the the corporate sector in Madhya Pradesh lapse, if any f on the part of the bank staff, the amounted to As. 71 crores during the 1988- - management of the bank concerned takes 89. action against them as they deem fit in accordance with the service regulations. [English] [ Translation] Collateral Security for Loans Setting up of Doordar.han Relay 865. SHRI J.P. AGARWAL: Will the Centre. Under Tribal Sub-Plan In Minist.r of FINANCE be pleased to state: Rajasthan
(a) whether Government have received 866. SHRI NANDLAL MEENA: Will the c:ompIaintsagainstbanks that inspiteofclear- Minister of INFORMArlON AND BROAD· cut instrLL1ions not to insist on collateral CASTING be pleased to state: security for loans upto Rs. 25000/- some banks refused loans to those who do not give (a> whether Government propose to set such security; up Doordaman Relay Centres in Pratapgarh, Dhariyaband, Khariwada. Gounda. Jhadol (b) if so, the action taken thereon; and Abu Parbhat, coming under tribal sub- plan area in Rajasthan to bring Adivasis into (c) whether such complaints have been national mainstream; and gone into by bank officials themselves; and (b) if so, when? (d) if SO, the efficacy of such inquiries made by the guilty persons themselves? THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI P. TRI): (a) to Cd). Reserve Bank of India (RBI) UPENDRA): (a) and (b). Whereas TV serv- has reported that the existing data reporting ice is already available in parts of Chittaur- system from banks does not generate i~for gam, Udaipur and Sirohi districts of Rajast- mation in the manner asked for. As per the han falling under the Tribal sub-plan, the instructions issued by RBI the banks should areas mentiond are not at present covered not ask tor collateral security, third party because of their distance from the existing guarantee for loans upto and inclusive of Rs. transmitters. It is the constant endeavour of 25,0001-. For loans in excess of As. 25,0001 Government to expand the TV network. - coUaterai security by way of immovable especially in tribal areas, as expeditiously as properties or third party guarantee may be possible, but this can be done only in a asked tor only in cases where primary secu- phased manner depending upon the availa- rity is inqdequate or for other valid reasons. bility of resources for this purpose. 295 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 296
UN Development Council Supported tioned during 1988 with financial assistance Projects In India from UNOP of ~ 14.43 million. 22 proiects were sanctioned in 1989 with financial assis- 867. SHRI NANDLAl MEENA: Will the tance from UNOP of $ 20.72 million. The Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: names of these projects and the financial assistance for each are indicated in the (a) the names of projects and the amount statement below. The names of the projects ~anc1ioned as financial assistance in re- approved by UNOP and the amounts sanc- spect of them by United Nations Develop- tioned for them during the period 1990-93 ment to India during the years 1988-89 to cannot be given at this stage as it is too early 1990-93; to predict which of the projects will be approved by UNDP for assistance during the (b) the number of officials sent abroad period ending 1993. for training under these projects; and (b) and (c). Once the project document
(c) the number of trained officers among has been Singed with UNDP I the project them working at present in the departments objectives are pursued by the administrative for which they had been trained? Ministry/Departments and project authorities concerned directly with UNDP. The in- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE formation regarding number of officials sent MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- abroad for training under these proiects and TRI): (a) There is no organisation called the number of trained officers among them United Nations Development to India. How- working at present in the departments for ever, there is United Nations Development which they had been trained is not main- Programme (UNOP). 12 projects were sane- tained centrally. 297 Written Answers SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 298
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Rate of Interest of Loan. for Setting up SHAI KAPIL DEV SHASTRI: of Gardena SHAI BHABANI SHANKAR HOTA: 868. SHRI S.C. VARMA: Will the Min- SHRI PALAI K.M. MATHEW: ister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (a) whether banks advance loans for to state: setting up of gardens; (a) the number of farmers and other (b) whether the crop comes up 5 to 7 categories of persons benefited tiJI date from years after the setting up of garden; the debt relief scheme announced by the Government: (c) if so, whether Government propose to reduce the rate of interest charged by the (b) the details thereof State-wise and banks on loans advanced 10r setting up of bank-wise: and gardens: and (c) the estimated total amount to be (d) if so, the details thereof? borne by the Union Government and each of the states, separately, under the debt relief THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE scheme? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MIN ISTAY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (c) and (d). At present there is no TRI): (a) to (c). Implementation of the Agri- proposal to reduce the rate of interest charged cultural and Rural Debt Relief Scheme is at by banks on loans advanced for agricultural different stages of implementation in variotJs purposeS, which includes horticulture. States. Till the banks submit the claim statement, it would not be possible to indicate the Debt Relief to Fanners Etc. exact number of farmers and other category of borrowers benefitted from the Scheme. 869. SHRI YADUNATH PANDEY: Similarly the amount of money involved in SHRI C.D. GAMIT: the Debt Relief Scheme and the share of the SHRI GULAS CHAND Union' Government and Slate Government KATARIA: therein can be worked out only after banks SHRI G.S. BASAVRAJ: prepare the list of beneficiaries eligible for SHRI JANARDHANA relief under the Scheme. POOJARY: SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- [English] JEE: SHR\ JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Imports and Exports Features of Some SHAI YUVRAJ: Fera Companies SHAI SRIKANTA DATTA NARASlMHA RAJA 870. SHR\ HAR\N PATHAK: Will the WADIYAR: Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: SHRI LOKANATH COUHDHUARY: (a) whether FERA companies 01 erst- SHAI BALGOPAL MISHAA: while FERA Companies which have techni- SHRI T. BASHEER: cally become Indain companies now by bring- 305 Written Answers SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 306 ing down their equity holding below 40 per and Delhi Sales Tax was not accepted. cen are importing majority of their requirements from hard currency areas and major- Enquiry into Switch Deals Involving ity of their exports are to rupee currency Indian Exporters areas; and 872. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (b) if so, the detailed break up of imports BRAHMBHATT: Will the Minister of FI- and exports of following companies during NANCE be pleased to state: the last three years separately mentioning both imports and exports from or to hard (a) whether the Union Finance Ministry currency areas as well as rupee currency has instituted an enquiry into the switch areas (i) Colgate Palmolive: Nastle; Philips deals involving Indian exporters and East India; Siemens: I.T.C. Ltd; Brooke Bond; European buyers: and Liptons? (b) if so, whether the Directorate of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Enforcement has been instructed to investi- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- gate the modus operandi of "rupee clearing" TRI): (a) and (b). Import and export data are trade; maintained for country as a whole and not according a classification of companies such (c) whether the enquiry report has been as FERA or non-FERA. nor are they main- submitted to Government; tained company-wise. (d) if so, the details thereof; and Memoranda Pertaining to Income-Tax, Abolition of Sales Tax and Octroi (e) the action taken against these held responsible? 871. RAM GANESH KAPSE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to s1~te: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- (a) whether Government have received TRI): (a) and (b). No, Sir. a memorandum from the Delhi Electrical Traders Association and other bodies per- (c) to (e). Do not arise. taining to Income-tax. abolition of Sales-tax and Octroi: and Action Plan to Curb Black Money
(b) if so. the action taken thereon? 873. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHfviBHA TT: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SHRI E.S.M. PAKEER MO- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- HAMED: TRI): (a) A large number of memoranda SHRI HET RAM: have been received from various sources SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: suggesting changes in Income-tax and SHRI KALP NATH RAI: abolition of- Sale Tax. SHRI D. AMAT:
(b) The proposals were examined. Some Willthe Minister of FINANCE be pleased changes were made in Income-tax law as to state: reflected in the Budget of 1990-91. The proposal to abolish levy ot Central Sales Tax (a) whether Government have pre- 30 7 Written Ans wers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 308 pared an action plan to curb black money in (i) Systematic survey operations; the country; (ii) Search and seizure operations in (b) if so, the main features of the plan; appropriate cases;
(c) when it is likely to be introduced; and (iii) Verification of information by Cen- tral Information Branches in a (d) to what extent this plan wiN curb the planned manner; ~money? (iv) In-depth investigation in a selected THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE number of cases; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIl SHAS- TRI): (a) to (d). The Government is fully (v) Pre-emptive purchase of immov- committed to combat tax evasion. Unearth- able property by the Central Gov- tng black money through tax evasion is a ernment under the provisions of continuous process. The Government takes Chapter XXC of the Income-tax necessary legislative administrative steps, Act, in certain notified cities. as deemed appropriate. from tIme to time to curb the generation. growth and use of black The results of the surveys and searches money. The steps taken, Interalia, inctude conducted during the lasl three financial the tollowing:- years and the current years are as under:- 309 Written AnSW91$ SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written Answel$ 310
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874. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (b) the total number of hoarders and BRAHMBATI: profiteers who were not provided bank credit SHRI MANORANJAN since January 1. 1990; BHAKATA: (c) the extent to which the decision Will the Mmister of COMMERCE be helped in reducing the prices of essential pleased to state: commodities; and
(a) whether several changes are being (d) the other steps being taken in this considered In the new Import-Export (Exam) regard? Policy 1990-93: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) if so. the details thereof; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (d). Reserve Bank of India (RBI) (c) the reasons for making these has advised that bank advances against changes: and sensitive commodities are subject to selective credit controls so as to prevent the (d) by what time these changes are misuse of bank finance for speculative hoard- likely to be inC'.oroorated In the policy? ing of these commodities in times of adverse supply-price developments Selective credit THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE control measures, inter alia. Include levy of MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- minimum margin, ceilings on level of credit ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) to (d). ReView and rate of interest. Depending on the price! of Import Export Policy IS a contlnOus proc- output situation of individual sensitive com- ess and necessary corrective measures are modities. the selectiye credit control meas- taken. as and when the situatIon so war- ure are tightened or eased. rants. atter tdklng Into consideratIon all the relevant factors and keeping in view. the So far during the year 1990, the margins needs of the economy. The changes In the on bank advances against ollseeds and policy as and when maoe. are notified in the vegetable oils have been raised twice in
Gazette of IndIa. May I 1990 and in July 1990 by 15 percentage points on each occasion. Margin on Bank Credit to Hoarders and Profiteers bank advances against released stocks of sugar have also been raised in July 1989 in 875. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO the context of increase in sugar prices. BRAHMBATI: SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: The measures taken to control price rise include reduction in budget deficit. stricter Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased economy in Government expenditure, main- to state: tenance of supplies of essential commodities through the public distribution system, (a) WhE'lt1er Government have decided augmentation of domestic supplies through to take stern measures to s;op bank credit to imports to. the extent feasible and action hoarders and profrte:ers as a part of its Inte- against hoarders and black marketeers. 313 Written Answers SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 314
investigation by S8. Regarding Waiver (a) whether Israel had invited famous of Loans of Agriculturists film director and table masters of India to take part in the film festival of Israel; 876. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof;
(a) whether the State Bank of India has (c) whether Government granted nec- undertaken any investigation for locating essary permission for this visit; and loan waiver for agricultunsts; (d) if not, the reasons for not according (b) if so, the details thereof; and the permission?
(c) whether Union Government and THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION State Governments have been involved in AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF this InvestigatIon? PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. UPENDRA): (a) Yes, Sir. The Organisers of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 6th Jerusalem Film Festival invited certain MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- Film Directors to attend the Festival. TRI)' (a) to (c) The information is being collected from State Bank of India and will be This Ministry is not aware of any invita- laid on the Table of the House. to the extent tion extended by Israel to Tabla Masters. available. (b) The organisers of the Jerusalem Coal Based Processing of Sponge Iron Film Festival informed the Directorate of Fnm Festivals in May, 1989 that they would 877. SHRI YADVENDRA DATI: Will like to invite Shri Mirnal Sen and Shri Shyam the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be Benegal. They also requested for Shri Sen's pleased to state: film "Ek Din Achanak" and Shri Senegal's film "Trikal." The film "Ek Din Achanak" was (a) whether the coal based processing also invited fortheJerusalem Film Festival in of sponge iron is still used in India; and 1990.
(b) If so, the reasons th&reof? (c) and Cd). Ministry of Information and Broadcasting could have suitably advised THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES any Director who was desirous of attending AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTIce the Festlval on hislher own volition. In this (SHRi DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir. particular instance no Director approached this Ministry for such permission. (b) Most a the ooal based sponge iron plaF'ts set up in india are working satistacao- {TransJation] rily. Pay Scales of RRB Employees isr_t·. Invitation to Film Dtt&clor and 879. SHRJ DIlEEP SINGH BHURIA: Tabla Mast. of india SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHOSALE: 87B. SHAM YADvaIDRA OA IT: Wi" SHRI A.K. ROY: th& Uinisterof 1NFOfl'MA~ ANOmoAO- WiRth. Minist.d FINANCE be pleased CASTING be pleawj to slate: to state: 315 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 316
(a) whether the Trbunal constituted in (b) if so, whether Union Government accordance with the directives issued by the propose to ask the State Governments to Supreme Court in the writ petition filed by the adopt uniform policy and make provisions employees of regional rural banks, has given for providing same benefits without discrimi- the verdict to give these employees same nation? pay scales, aIowances and other benefits as 81. admisIibIe to the employees in there THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sponsor banks w •••f. September 1, 1987; MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRt ANll SHAS· TRI): (a) and (b). The Debt Relief Scheme (b) if so, the reasons for delay in com· prepared by state Government of Madhya plying with the above orders of the Tribunal; Pradesh is liberal than the Scheme announced by the Government of India relating (c) the additional burden to be borne by to Commercial Banks and Regional Rural the regional rural banks every year as a Banks. The ~vernme: It of India would meet result thereof; the 500/0 of the share on the basis of the norms prescribed in their scheme. The (d) whether the regional rural banks are additional financial burden would have to be not in a position to bear this additional ex- met by the State Government on account of penditure; and liberalisation of the scheme.
Ce) if so, the action proposed to be taken [English] in the high of this verdict? Steel Export THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- 8819SHRIMATI BAS AVA RAJESWARI: TRI): (a) Ves, Sir. Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: (b) The Tribunal's Award is under legal scrutiny. (a) whether Government have planned to export two million tonnes of steel by the (c) to (e). These aspects of the Award end of Eighth Plan; will be taken up after completion of the said scrutiny. (b) if so, the details thereof;
Variations in Loan waiving Schemes 0' (c) whether any concrete formula for Union Government and Madhya steel development has been made; Pradesh Government (d) if so, the details thereof; and 880. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (e) 'by what time the policy is likely to be state: implemented?
THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES lal whether there are variations be- AND M\N\STER OF LAW AND JUST'CE tween the \oan Wa\Vlng scheme as an- lSHR\ D\NESH GOSWAM\): {a) to (e). The nounced by Union Government and as Eighth Plan Working Group on Iron & Steel announced by Madhya Pradesh Govern- has agreed with the proposal that about 2 ment; and MT 01 'ron and Steel items can be exported 317 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 318 by the end ofthe VIII Plan. Exports of specific YADAV: products will depend or available surplus and international market. Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: The broad strategy recommended by the Working Group on Iron & Steel for the (a) the number of posts of judges lying development of the steel Sector includes vacant in Supreme Court and different High renovation and technological upgradation of Courts and since when these posts are lying existing integrated Steel Plants, creation of vacant, Court-wise; additional capacities and increasing production in the Secondary Sector. (b) the action being taken to fill up these posts; and Vacant post. of Judge. In Supreme Court/High Court. (c) when these posts are likely to be filled up? 882. SHAIMATI BASAVA RAJES- WARI: THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE HIT: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) The requi- SHRI BABANRAO DHAKNE: site information is given below in the state- SHRI RAJ MANGAL MISHRA: ment. SHRt NANDU THAPA: SHRI KALPNATH SONKAR: (b) and (c). For filling up the existing SHRI SRIKANTA DATTA vacancies of Judges in the High Courts and NARASIMHA RAJA the Supreme Court, the process of consulta- WADIYAR: tion among the concerned constitutional SHAI KAlP NATH RAI: authorities is on. It is not possible to indicate SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD the time by when ·these posts will be tilled up. 319 Written Ans wers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 320
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Dialogue with USA on Super 301 Issue Section 301 would be warranted.
883. SHRIMATI BAS AVA RAJES- World Bank Development Report 1990 WARI: SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: 884. SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES- WARI: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be SHRI GULAB CHAND pleased to state: KATARIA: SHRI HARSH VARDHAN: (a) whether both India and U.S. have SHRI KALP NATH RAI: agreed to have further discussion on Super 301 issue; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether any delegation from India visited U.S.A. In this connection; (a) whether the World Bank Develop- ment Report for 1990 is reported to have (c) if so, the details thereof; and been recently released by the World Bank;
(d) by what time the controversy on (b) what are the observations made in Super 301 is likely to be resolved? the Report about India; and
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the reaction of Governmenttheraon? MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) No, Sir. India THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE has consistently declined to negotiate under MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- threat of retaliation. TRI): (a) Yes, Sir.
(b) Does not arise .. (b) The 1990 World Development Report has, as its theme, the issue of World Poverty (c) Does not arise. and measures to reduce poverty. The Re- port while examining the trends and pros- (d) On 14 June, 1990, the US Trade pects of reducing poverty all over the world Representative (USTR) has determined that over the next decade has also made refer- certain allegedly,trade restricting investment ences to India. While emphasising upon the measures and barriers to foreign insurance need for sustaining further fiscal reforms, the providers imposed by government of Indian World Bank Development Report has pro- are unreasonable and burden or restrict US jected a 3.4 per cent per capita GOP growth Commerce. The USTR has however deter- for the 90's for India. This is higher than what mined that no responsive action under sec- has been projected for other region/groups tion 301 of the US Trade Act is appropriate at of countries except for East Asia and China. this time, given the potential for results through Government of India's participation Measures and Services. Theretore. the in- (c) The World Development Report is vestigations initiated against India have been an annual publication of the World Bank and terminated and the status of India' practices each series focuses on a major topical issue is proposed to be reviewed after the conclu- relevant to World Economic Development. sion of the Uruguay Round negotiations to Observations made in the Report are only determine at that time whether actions under suggestive in nature. 327 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 328
Recommendations of Electoral Re- Rules for Telecasting of Regional Films forms Committee on Doordarahan
885. SHRI T. BASHEER: 886. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA SHRIMATI VIDYA CHEN- SHEKARA MUTHRY: NUPATI: SHRI V.SREENIVASA SHRI P. NARSA REDDY: PRASAD: SHRI K. PRAOHANI: SHRI PRAT APRAO B. SHRI PRAKASH V. PARIL BHOSALE: SHRt RAMESHWAR PRASAD: Will the Minister of INFORMAnON AND Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE BROADCASTING be pleased to state: be pleased to refer to the reply given on 25 May, 1990 to Unstarred Question No.1 0471 (a) whether Government have recently regarding Report of Committee on Electoral made new rules for telecast of regional films Reforms and state: on Doordarshan;
(a) whether Union Government ha'le (b) if so, the detailS thereof: considered the recommendations made by the Committee on Electoral Reforms: (c) the number of Kannadafeaturefilms telecast on Doordarshan durrng the last six (b) if so, the follow up action taken or months in comparison to other regional fea- proposed to be taken thereon; ture films; and
(c) if not. the reason for delay; and (d) the steps being taken tor increasing the telecast of Kannada films? (d) the time by which these recommendations are likely to be implemented? THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE UPENDRA): (a) and (b). Yes, SIr. A state- (SHR' OJNESH GOSWAMI): (a) Yes, Sir ment indicating the revised criteria is given below. (b) Based on the reoommendations of the Committee on Electoral Reforms foul (c) Five feature films in Kannada were Bills viz. (1) The Constitution (Seventieth telecast on the national network of Door· Amendment, Bin. , 990 (2) The Constitutton darshan during the period Jan~uIy. . (Sevenly-flfStAmendment)Bin, 1990{3) The 1990. The number of feature films in other Representation of the People (Amendment) language telecast during the same period 'is Bifl1990 and (4) The Chief EIectJOn Com- asunder:- missioner and other EIectD1 Commission- ers (Conditions of Setvi;::Q) Bill, 1990 have 1 alr8lCy been intlOduced ., the Parliament during the Budget Session itself. 5
(el Does not arise.. Gujarati 1 (d) The Bills are awaiting consideration and passing by Parliament. Marathi 3 329 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 330
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Oriya (a) Entry in the Indian Panorama and mainstream Sections of any Tamil 4 International Film Festival of IndialFilmotsav Telugu 4 (b) Films which have celebrated (d) The present arrangement is consid- Silver JUbilee (having run con- ered adequate. tinuously for 25 weeks) and carry a 'U' certificate. STATEMENT Increase in Smuggling Activities with Regional language feature films which Reopening of Khasa Kodari Road have won any of the following national awards or which fulfil any of the following criteria, as 887. SHRIM.V.CHANDRASHEKARA the case may be, only are considered for MURTHY: Will the Minister of FINANCE be telecast on the national network on Sunday: pleased to state:
I. Awards won in NatIonal Film Festi- (a) whether smuggling has Increased vals sharply from the North following reopening of the Khasa Kodari road; and (a) National award for the Best or second Best Feature film of the (b) if so, what steps Government have year (in all languages combined) taken or propose to take to curb smuggling activities across Indo-Nepal border?
(b) The Indira Gandhi Award for Best THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE first film 01 a Director MINtSTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) and (b). Available reports do not (c) Award tor best film providing indicate any sharp increase in smuggling from the North following reopening of the popular and wholesome enter- Khasa Kodari road. Anti-smuggling machin- tainment ery on the Indo-Nepal border has been geared up. Close co-ordination is maintained with all (d) The Nargis Dutt Award for Best the agencies concerned in the prevention Feature Film on National Inte- and detection of smuggling. Special drives are launched from time to time on the border gration to curb smuggling. Constant re-deployment of staff and equipment to areas vulnerable to (e) Best film on Family Welfare smuggling is undertaken. Sophisticated equipment like metal detectors, walkie-talk- ies and night vision binoculars etc. are being (f) Best film on Other Social issues increasingly used. such as prohibItion, women and child welfare, anti-dowry, drug Instructions for Use of Maruti Vans abuse, etc. 888. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA SHEKARA MURTHY: SHRI V. SREENIVASA (g) President's Award of 'Rajat PRASAD: DR. C. SILVERA: Kamal' for the Best Feature Film Willthe Minister of FINANCE be pleased In a regional language. to state: 331 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnsW61S 332
(a) whether Government have instructed"' (d) if so, by when the instrudions would all Ministries/Departments to make use of be implemented; and Maruti Vans in place of Ambassador Cars to save petrol; (e) the measures proposed to be taken to watch implementation of the decision? (b) if so, whether the instructions are being strictly followed by all the Ministries! THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Departments; and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) No, Sir. (c) if not, the steps being taken to ensure their compliance? (b) to (e). Do not arise.
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Demand for Continuation of Ms· MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- habharat for Showing Swargarohan of TRI): (a) to (c). Instructions were issued in Pandavas 1985 to all Central Government Departments that in addition to Ambassador/Fiat cars, 890. SHRI C.P. MUDALA GIRIYAPPA: they could also purchase Maruti cars for use Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND as staff cars. Subsequently, purchase of BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Maruti vans and Gypsys was also allowed. These instructions have recently been reit- (a) whether there is a demand by sev· erated, keeping in view the need to econo- eral organisations and by the people in mise on consumption of fuel. general for the continuation of 'Mahabharat' on the pattern of 'Uttar Ramayan' to show Banning Use of Government Vehicles "Swargarohan" of Pandavas; on Sundays (b) whether the producers of Ma· 889. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA habharat have come forward to produce SHEKARA MURTHY: such a T.V. serial episodes depicting 'Swar· SHRI V. SREENIVASA garohan'; and PRASAO: DR. C. SlLVERA: (c) if so, the reaction of Government thereto? Willthe Ministerof FINANCE be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (a) whether Government have a pro- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P posal to ban use of Government vehicles on UPENDRA): (a) No, Sir. Sundays with a view to curbing petrol consumption; (b) No such proposal appears to have been received. (b) if so, the details of instructions issued in this regard; (c) Does not arise.
Export Obligation of Companies (c) whether instructions have also been 891. SHRIMATISUBHASHINIALl: Will issued to State Governments to follow the the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to guidelines in this regard; state: 333 Written AnSW91S SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Written AnswBIS 334
(a) whether some companies are ex- visiting these tourist spots; and porting items manufactured by other companies to me,et their export obligation; and (c) if not. the steps Government propose to take to provide these facilities at (b) if so, the steps taken by Government these places? to ensure that these companies export their own manufactured goods for which they had THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE got the licence? MINISTAYOFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- MALIK): (a) to (c). Assessment of tourism ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). In resources on specific tourist centres and its case of import of Capital Goods with export development is primarily the responsibility of obligation, it is necessary that the goods the State Government. exported are manufactured using the Capi- tal Goods allowed for import. In case of Impact of New Import-Export Policy obligation against licences providing for import of inputs for export production. it is 893. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD necessary that the goods exported are SHASTRI: manufactured by the licenceee when he is a PROF. P.J. KURIEN: manufacturer-exporttir. In case the licencee SHRI HARI KEWAL PRASAD: is a Merchant Exporter. he is allowed the facility of getting the goods manufactured Will the Minister of COMMERCE be from his supporting manufacturers for fulfil- pleased to state: ment of his export obligation. (a) the value of goods imported and [Translation J exported during the period December. 1989 to June. 1990 and the figures tor the corre- Provision of Transport and Lodging sponding period last year; and Facilities at Chachai Waterfall in Reena District of Madhya Pradesh (b) whether exports have increased and export-import gap reduced as a result of 892. SHAJ YAMUNA PRASAD SHAS- the new Import-Export Policy and if so. the TRI: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased extent thereof? to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether a large number of foreign MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- and Indian tourists visit Aeena district in ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) and (b). As Madhya Pradesh every year to see Chachai per the latest data available. imports and waterfall and the ancient temple on Debtalab; exports during December, 1989 to May, 1990 and during the corresponding period of (b) if so. whether there are proper December, 1 988 to May, 1989 were as transport and lodging facilities for tourists under:- Rs. crores
Period Value Imports Exports Deficit Dec. '89 to May, '90 20127 15957 4170 Dec. '88 to May, '89 14990 12140 2850 (Source: DGCI&S, Calcutta) 335 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 336
The exports as well as the trade gap lection during the quarter ending on 30 June, have increased dUring December, 1989 to 1990 and the revenue collection position as May, 1990 as compared to the correspond- compared to similar quarters in the past In9 period of December, 1988 to May, 1989. three years; However, the impact of the new Policy cannot be assessed at this stage, as the new (b) whether there has been any im- Import and Export Policy came Into effect provement in revenue collection during this only on 01.04.90. quarter; if so, the extent thereof and if not, the reasons therefor; and [English] (c) the steps being taken to improve Revenue Collections revenue collection?
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 894. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Will MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: TRI): (a) and (b). The total revenue collections in the first quarters of 1988-89, 1989-90 (a) the details regarding revenue col- and 1990-91 are as under:-
(Rs. in crores)
1988-89 1989-90 1990-91 (UP to June) (up to June) (up to June)
2 3
8372.06 9467.69 10213 13
There has been Improvement In revenue Golkonda shaft. Kolar Gold FIeld. Karna- collections In the quarter. taka:
(c) Appropriate adrrW ,15tratlve as well (b) if so, the details thereof and wnether as other measures are taken from time to Government have taken any action to en- time to Improve the recovery of taxes. qUire Into the alleged pilferage of gold; and
Gold Pilferage from Bharat Gold Mines (c) whether the maner is proposed to be Ltd. referred to CBI for investigation?
895. SHRI H.C SRIKANTAIAH: Will THE MINISTEROFSTEELANDMINES the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE pleased to state: (SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) There is nothing to substantiate the allegation of pilferage of gold from Bharat Gold Mines lim- (a) whether it has come to the notice of ited. Government that there is an alleged pilferage of gold from Bharat Gold Mines limited, (b) and (c). Do not arise. 337 WItten An._1S SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 338
.nlmum DeposIt Amount In NlltIonal- (d) the total amount required to com· I88d Banks plete the Film Complex; and
896. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will (e) the amount proposed to be spent on the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: construction during 1990-91?
No. Sir. (b) if so. the reasons therefor; and (b) The Project Report on the feasibility (c) its likely effect on inculcation of of the Children's Film Complex at Bangalore saving habits among the poor rural people? is under preparation.
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) The construction work is likely to MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- start within about a year's time and is ex- TRI): (a)to (c). Minimum balance required in pected to be completed within about two a savings bank account continues to be As. years thereafter. 5/-. However, considering the increase in money supply, etc., Indian Banks' Associa- (d) and (e). The complex is expected to tion have amended their Ground Rules from cost around Rs. 12 crores at the present 1.4.90 to provide that savings bank account estimates. A Plan provision of Rs. 4 lakhs with cheque book facility shall have a mini- has been earmarked for this project during mum balance of Rs. 2501- as against Rs. 1990-91. 1001- earlier. This, according to Indian Banks' Association and Reserve Bank of India, is Payment Defaults by US Importers not likely to affect the saving habits among the poor rural people as they can save in 898. PROF. RUPCHAND PAL: Will the savings bank account with the same mini- Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: mum balance of Rs. 5/-. (a) whether Indian exporters are facing Construction of Chlldren's Film Com- an increasing trend of defaults in payment by plex, Bang810re US importers;
897. SHRI H.C. SRIKANTAIAH: Will (b) if ~o, the number of such cases :>f the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- defaults· In payments towards exports from CASTING be pleased to state: India reported to Government; and
(a> whether construction work of Chil- (c) the steps Government propose to dren·. Film Complex at Bangalore· has take to ~rotect the interests of Indian export- Itarted; ers?
(b) if not. the reasons for the delay; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) the time by which the construction MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- work is likely to start and when it is likely to be ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) No. Sir. there completed; ia no increasing trend. 339 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 340
(b) Does not arise. TRI): (a)10 (c). It has been reported by Delhi Administration that the cases are processed (c) The cases that are received are at various levels from Assistant to Deputy generally of three types: General Manager, who are all collectively responsible for achieving the laid down tar- i) where US importer has com- gets. plained about damaged or substandard goods; Since performance of the officials of disbursement department as a whole was ii) where US importer has gone not found upto the mcuk, suitable administra- bankrupt or is not available on tive action has been, inter-alia, initiated the address given; against the concerned ..
iii) where goods have been col- Joint Ventures with USSR and Japan lected by the importer but the payment has not been made. 900. SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR MAHALE: Will the Minister of COMMERCE Assistance is provided by Indian Mis- be pleased to state: sions located in USA to the exporter to secure payments. Advice is given to him on (a) whether Government have taken the best course of action to be taken to steps to set up joint venture with U.S.S.R. secure the payments. and Japan;
[Translation] (b) whether any agreement was signed with U.S.S.R. and Japan for expanding the Loans Advanced by Deihl Financial trade during 1989-90 or prior to it; Corporation (c) if so, the details thereof; and 899. SHRI MITRA SEN YADAV: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to refer (d) the scheme of Government for to the reply given on May 25, 1990 to Unstar- expanding Indo-U.S.S.R. and Indo-Japan red Question No. 10468 regarding loans trade? sanctioned by the Delhi' Financial Corpora- tion and state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- (a) the particulars of officials of the ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The Govern- Delhi Financial Corporation responsible for ment as such has not set up joint ventures non-achievement of targets in disbursement with the USSR and Japan. The Government of loans; is, however, encouraging the various commercial organisations to set up joint ven- (b) what action has been taken against tures. each of them; and As regards USSR, a new Indo-Soviet (c) if no action has been taken against Working Group on New Forms of Coopera- any of them, the reasons therefor? tion has been set up with Department of Industrial Development as the nodal a.uthor- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ity on the Indian side to promote joint ven- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- tures with the USSR. 341 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 342
As regards Japan. the Government is conducted periodically and efforts are being encouraging the setting up of joint ventures mad. to promote Indian exports through and in this connection has set up an Inter- exchange of delegations, trade fairs, exhibi- Ministerial Group to facilitate Joint Ventures tions, etc. with Japan. Boarding and Lodging Facility In (b) and (c). As regards USSR, the Indo- Maharashtra Soviet Trade Plan Protocol for 1990 was concluded on 10th January, 1990 which 902. SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR envisages export of the order of As. 5,300 MAHALE: Will the Minister of TOURISM be crores from India to the USSR and imports of pleased to state: the order of As. 3,500 crores from the U.SSR into India. In accordance with this Protocol, (a) the names of places in Maharashtra the main items of exports from India to the where boarding and lodging facilities are USSR are agricultural products, mineral available through India Tourism Develop- products, leather items, chemical items, ment Corporation or the State Government; textile items and engineering items. The main items of jmports from the USSA are (b) the amount spent for development crude oil. oil products, non ferrous metals, of tourism in Nasik district of Maharashtra industrial raw materials. fertilizers, machin- during the last three years; ery and equipment for power, steel etc. sectors, etc. (c) whether there is any proposal to develop some places as tourist centres in As regards Japan. a bilateral Trade the country and if so, the details thereof; and Agreement was signed in 1958 between India and Japan. The Agreement provides (d) the details of amount to be spent for most favoured nation treatment by each thereon during the current year? country to the other in trade matters. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Efforts are being made to expand MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS and diversify the trade with both USSR and AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- Japan. Visits of business delegations, par- TRY OF TOURISM (SHR'I SATYA PAL ticipation in exhibitIons, iairs, organisations MALIK): (a) ITDC and MTDC are presently of seminarslbuyer-seller meets, etc. are being having following facilities of board and lodg- encouraged. New Forms of Cooperation like ing in Maharashtra;- joint ventures are being encouraged. ITDC ~s regards the USSR, since imports generate rupees for exports given the bal- i) A 2-star. 66-room Hotel Auran- anced rupee trading system with the USSR gabad Ashok at Aurangabad being which has now been extended upto owned and operated bV ITOe. 31.12.1995. the imports are also being encouraged. Thrust is being given tor market ii) A 71-room Hotel Executive Ashok penetration of Indian goods in the USSR, of a private limited company is being particularly, quality goods and value-added managed by ITOC at Pune. products. MTDC As regards, Japan. review of trade is 36 holiday resorts at different places 343 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 344
like hill stations, sea beaches, re- for the purposes of Section 30 of the Gold ligious places, historical places etc. (Control) Act, 1968. are being run by MTDC in the State of Maharashtra in the distrias of (b) In view of (a) above, question does Ahmednagar, Am arav ati , Auran: not arise. gabad, Bhandara, Buldhana, Kol- hapur, Nagpur, Nasik, Osmanabad, (c) No, Sir. Pune, Satara, Solapur, Sindhudurga, Parbhani, Ratnagiri, (d) In view of (c) above, question does Raigad, ThanEJ and Wardha. not arise.
(b) The Central Department of Tourism [English] have not incurred any expenditure for development of tourism in Nasik District of Mahar- Role of Export Promotion Councils ashtra in the last three years. 904. SHRI J.P. AGARWAL: Will the (c) and (d). Development of tourist Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: centres is primarily the responsibility of the State Governments. However, based on (a), whether Export Promotion Councils specific proposals received from them, the were set up to boost export efforts; Department of Tourism provides financial assistance within available resources based (b) if so, how and to what extent they on tne\l mel\\ and \n\et-Se-pT\oT\'\\es. 'ha'lle 'he\ped \'he \o\end\ng exporters~
Gold Samples Collected In Gujarat and (c) whether these Councils also organ- Madhya Pradesh ise seminars etc. to educate exporters on various .export procedures; and 903. SHRI HARIBHAU SHANKAR MAHALE: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (d) if so, the details thereof? pleased to sta1e: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the number of samples collected in MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh in 1988 under ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. the Gold (Control) Act, 1968; (b) Export Promotion Councils have (b) the action taken in this regard; helped exporters by providing them market intelligence, organising delegations, study (c) whether Government propose to teams, seminars, etc. and also organising formulate a scheme to mark purity percent- participation- in trade fairs/exhibitions etc. age of all gold ornaments for the benefit of consumers; and (c) Yes, Sir.
(d) if so, the details thereof? (d) Seminars and Workshops organised by Export Promotion Councils do in- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE clude programmes for educating the export- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANILSHAS- ers on policies and procedures announced TRI): (a) No samples were collected in by Govemmentfrom time to time and also for Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh during 1988 making recommendations to concerned 345 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 346 agencies for resolving the problems that India has not finalised its views so far. arise in promotion of exports. Tax Evasion by Bldl Manufacturers Loan Advanced to London Based Shipping Company by UCO Bank 906. SHR\ SHANT\LAL PU- RUSHOTTAM DAS 905. SHRI SHANTILAL PURUSHOT- PATEL: TAM OAS PATEL: wm the Minister ot FI- SHR\ RAM BAHADUR SINGH: NANCE be pleased to state: SHRI HET RAM: SHRI D.M. PUTTE GOWDA: {a) whether th~ UCO BanKS su\\ered a SHR\ R. GUNOU RAO: Joss in financing a london based shipping sHRI PARAS RAM BHARD- company; WAJ:
(b) if so, the details thereof; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (c) whether any inquiry has been made into the transadion; (a) whether it has been reported that bidi manufacturers are making an unearned (d) if so, the findings of the inquiry; and tax-evaded huge income every year on the rejeds (called 'chaant bid;") that constitute (8) the action contemplated by Govern- about 20 per cent of the estimated total men\ \n \he ma\\et'? ptOOuc\\on~ and
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof and the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- steps taken or proposed to be taken by TAl): (a) to (e). The London branch of UCO Government in this regard? Bank had given certain facilities by way of Deferred Payment Guarantee to a London THE DEPUTY MIN ISTER IN THE based shipping company for purchase of a MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- vessel. As per the agreement the repayment TRI): (a) "Chaant Bidis" (rejects) are either of the guarantee amoun~ was to be made in removed as sub-standard bidis on payment , 0 instalments. The company is reported to of Central Excise duty or are unrolled to have paid six instalments in full and the retrieve the tobacco for further use in the seventh instalment in part. Since the com- manufacture of fresh bidis which are also panydid notmakefull payment, the Deferred cleared on payment of duty or are destroyed Payment Gua~antee devolved on the Bank. in the presence of Central Excise Officers In terms of the statutes governing the nation- and the duty leviable thereon is remitted. alised banks and in accordance with the practices and usages customary among the (b) Does not arise. bankers, further details in respect of the affairs of their constituents cannot be dis- Impact of Cutting Down Go'vernment closed. Expenditure
The Reserve Bank of India has reported that it had conducted a scrutiny of the rec- 907. SHRI SHANT LAL PURUSHOT- ords available at the Central Office of the TAM DAS PATEL: Will the Minister of FI- UCO Bank at Calcutta. The Reserve Bank of NANCE be pleased to state: 347 Wnlten AnSWBrs AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 348
(a) whether Govemment have asked Incr_ In CUstoms Duty on Paraxy- the Central Ministries to cut down their ex- lene penditure by 10 per cant; 908. SHRI SHANTILAL PURUSHOT- TAM DAS PATEL: Will the Minister of FI- (b) if so, the areas where expenditure is NANCE be pleased to refer to the reply given proposed to be cut and the estimated saving on 20 April. 1990 to Unstarred Question No. as a resul1 thereof; 5804 regarding Paraxylene prices and state:
(a) . whether in view of drastic fall in the (c) the basis for arriving at the saving price of Paraxylene in international market. figure; Govemment have taken steps to increase Customs duty on this material; and Cd) whether with the imposition of cut in expenditure, some ongoing projects and the (b) if not, the precise reasons for delay- projects proposed to be taken up by the ine the decision on the subjed particularly various Ministries are likely to be delayed; when it has an adverse impact on revenue and collections and growth of indigenous industry? (e) if so, whether the 10 per cent cut in the expenditure would check the inflationary THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE trends and meet the foreign debt obligations MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- especially when the expenditure on these TRI): (a) and (b). Bureau of Industrial Costs projects when taken up would enormously and Prices (SICP) has been asked to ascer- increase with the continuous amount esca- tain the fair selling price of indigenous paraxy- lation in prices? lene. A decision on the appropriate level of import duty on paraxylene can be taken only THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE after the receipt of the BtCP report. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (e). A review of proposals, for Law on Adoption anticipated additional expenditure indicates that a cut of 10 per cent in the budget of all Ministries may be necessary if the additional 909. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA- allocations sought are to be sanctioned and WANSHI: Will the Minister of LAW AND the deficit is still to be contained at the JUSTICE be pleased to state: budgeted level. (a) whether Government are aware that While identifying the areas of likely the law on adoption prevents Non-Hindu savings the Ministries are free to prioritise communities to adopt a child; their schemes/projects and reduce expenditure on low priority and inessential items. No (b) if so, whether Government propose cut has been imposed specially so far on the to bring forward a uniform legislation on existing provisions for any project or scheme. adoption for non-Hindu communities also as per the pr'Jvision of Hindu Adoptions and Maintenance Act, 1986; The above rr asures, by keeping the budget deficit und~r control, will help check (c) if so, thetimeby which it wiUbe done; inflationary trends. and 349 Written AnsMHS SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 350
(d) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) if so, the details thereof;
THE MIN'STER OF STEEL AND MINES (c) whether some suggestions have AND MIN'STER OF LAW AND JUSTICE been received from FICCI and other organi- (SHAt OINl;SH GOSWAMI): (a) -Yes, Sir. sations in this regard; and The Hindu Adoption law is not applicable to non-Hindus. (d) if so, the details thereof and the action taken thereon? (b) No, Sir. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) Does not arise. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAIANllSHAS- TAl): (a) and (b). The policy in this regard is (d) The Adoption of Children Bill to under consideration of the Government. provide for a uniform law on adoption was introduced in Parliament in the year 1972 (c) Yes, Sir. and also in the year 1980 but in view of vehement opposition from certain minority (d) The suggestions received are for communities the proposals were dropped. investment of unaccounted income and The manifesto of the National Front states wealth for socio-economic purposes, such that religious and ethnic minorities will have as slum clearance, housing for low and middle the fullest protection in following their per- income groups, industrialisation of rural areas sonal laws and that complete non-interfer- and construction of roads and bridges etc. ence will be observed in their personal laws These are under consideration of the Gov- and fulfilment of their distinctive cultural ernment. identities. Loss of Revenue Due to Decline In Suggestion of FICCI for Channelising Tourist Traffic to Kashmir Valley Unaccounted Money 911. SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: 910. SHRI NARSINGRAO SURYA- PROF. PREM KUMAR DHU- WANSHI: MAL: SHAt PYARELAL KHANDEL- WAL: Will the Minister of TOURISM be pleased SHAI RAJENDRA AG- to state: NIHOTRI: SHRI UITAM RATHOD: (a) the total revenue loss during the SHRr RAM_SAJIWAN: current tourist season due to the adverse SHAt KALP NATH RAI: conditions prevailing in the Kashmir Valley;
Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) the break-up of the total loss in to state: foreign exchange and Indian currency; and
(c) how Government propose to com- (a) whether Government propose to pensate the people of the Kashmir Valley bring about a policy for investment of unac- whose main source of Hvelihood depends on counted money for housing and other social the tourist traffic? welfare based schemes, development works and for generating additional jobs; THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE 351 Written Ans",. AUGUST 10, 1910
MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS proposal of the Ministry of Tourism to import AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- 3OO.airconditioning units for the travel trade TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL over the next 2 years and the duty would be MALIK): (8) and (b). As per the estimates reduced to 50%. The foreign exchange in- available, the tourist expenditure in Kashmir volved will be to the tune of approximately Valley was about Rs. 87 erores (Rs. 35 RI. aix crores. crores by foreign tourists and Rs. 52 crores by domestic tourists) du'ring 1989. The tour- (c) The Travel Trade was not satisfied '.t traffic to the Vaney so far during the w)th the pertormance 01 the airconditloning current year has been greatly reduced. units of indigenous make which tend to break However, the shortfall in tourist expenditure down during the hot weather and that is why during the current year can only be esti- it has been decided to impon the aircondl- mated aftar the tourist saason is fully over. tioning units.
(c) All segments of the economy of tha SeUlng up of A.I.R. Statton. In Punjab stata has been affected dua to the prevailing conditions in the state and as such the eco- 913. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will nomic resettlement of tha people in general the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- has been taken up by the J&K Government. CASTING be pleased to state: The que.tion of compensating the people involved in tourism industries separately, (a) the number of AU Ind,a Radio station therefore, does not arise. functioning in Punjab; and
Air Conditioning Unit. In Tourlat Bu... (b) the details of new stations to be set up in Punjab during 199O-91? 912. SHRI AJIT PANJA: Will the Min- ister of TOURISM be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF Ca> whether there is any proposal to PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. instal air-conditioning units in the tourist UPENDRA): (a) At pi'esentthere isonty one buses; radio station in the State of Punjab functioning at Jalandhar. (b) whether the air -conditioning units are proposed to be imported and it so, how (b) Two local radio stations. one each at much foreign exchange will be involved Bhatinda and Patiala with 2 x 3 KW FM therein; and transmitters, multi-purpose studios and receiving facilities are envisaged to be com- (c) the reasons for going in for imports missioned during 1990-91 as part of the when good quality air-conditioning units are approved Seventh Plan schemes. available indigenously? Foreign Exchange Raserve Position THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- 914. SHRt S. KRISHNA KUMAR: TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL SHRI NATHU SINGH: MALIK): (a) Yes, Sir. .Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (b) Government has approved the to state: 353 Wrlrten Ms_,. SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA)
(a) the latest position of th4a foreign in; the stipulated net foreign exchange earn- exchange reserves; ings.
~) the efforts made.duriog the last six (e) and (f). The country's foreign ex- months to boost export; change reserve (excluding gold and SORs) decreased by As. 737.05 crores during the (c) whether the export houses have not period between 31.3.90 and 31.7.90. Steps reached the desired target; have been taken to maintain and improve the foreign exchange reserves position by (d) if so, the facts thereof; initiating a number of measures to promote exports and curtail inessential imports. At- (e) whether the foreign exchange re- tempts are also being made to augment serve are decreasing; and foreign exchange earnings through invisible earnings and capital inflows. including ac- (f) if so, the details thereof and the steps celerated disbursement of external assis- proposed to be taken to increase foreign tance. exchange? [Translstion ] THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIANIL SHAS- Non-Refund of Deposit of Share- TRI): As on 31st of Juty, 1990 the foreign Applicants exchange reserves (excluding Gold and SDRs) were As. 5050.12 crores. 915. SHRI RAM PRASAD CHAUDHARY: WiUthe Ministerof FINANCE (b) Government has taken a series of be pleased to state: measures towards making exports commer- cially viable through upgrading industrial (a) the number of applicants who have efficiency. supply of raw materials at com- been allotted shares/debentures by each of petitive prices, strengthening infrastructure J.C.T. Ltd. and Cetex Petrochemicals Ltd. and simplifying procedures. Some of the and Video-Con V.C.R. Ud. in response to important measures taken during the last six applications invited by them in June, 1989 months include: announcement of the new and January, 1990 respectively; Import-Export Policy for 1990-93; provision of incentives for promoting exports in the (b) whether these companies have yet Central Budget 1990-91; scheme for import not returned the, amount of those applicants of capital goods by registered exporters on who have not been allotted shares/deben- concessional duty of 25% provided they take tures; greater export obligation; maior modifica- tions have been made in the Internationa\ lc) the action proposed to be taken by Price Reimbursement Scheme available to Government against these companies who exporters of engineering goods in order to illegally block the money of small investors streamline existing scheme and ensure (applicants); and optimal use of IPRS Funds, etc. (d) the steps taken by Government for the early disposal of such complaints? (c) and (d). No targets are specified for Export Houses. However, they are eligible THE DEPUTY 'MINISTER IN THE for incentives depending on their maintain- MJNISTRY OF fiNANCE (SHR\ AN\l SHAS- 355/ Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 356
TAl): (a)' The number of applicants who concerned companies is given below: have been alfotec:f shares/debentures by the
Name of the Company Number of applicants aJIoted shares/debentures
1 2
J.C.T. Ltd. 59483 (EqU-ity Shares)
Cetax Petrochemicals Ltd. 30846 (-do-)
Video-Con V.C.R. Ltd. 31647 (Debentures)
6650 (Equity Shares)
(b) According to the information fur- (b) whether the foreign exchange re- nished by the concerned regional Stock serves have increased or decreased on 1 st Exchanges, the companies have already July, 1990 as compared to the figures of 1 st completed mailing of refund orders to the January, 1990; and applicants who have not been alloted shares/ debentures. (c) the steps proposed to be taken by Government to reduce foreign debt and the (c) and (d). The provisions of Section 73 payment of interest thereon? of the Companies Act, 1956 contain safe- guards for protecting the interests of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE applicants who have not been alloted shares/ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- debentures. TRI): (a) The total amount of domestic and external debt outstanding against the coun- Foreign Debt try as on 31.3.1990 IS estimated to be Rs. 2,38,096 crares and Rs. 80,132 crores re- 916. SHRI RAM PRASAD spectively. The amount of interest payment CHAUDHARY: during 1989-90 on domestic and external PROF. MAHADEO debts is estimated to be Rs. 16226 crores SHIWANKAR: and Rs. 3559 crares respectively. Inforrna- SHRI PY ARELAL KHANDEL- tion for a broken part of the financial year is WAl: not avai(able. SHRI J. CHOKKA RAO: SHRI NATHU SINGH: (b) The foreign exchange reserves as on 29th June, 1990 increased by Rs. 78.87 \film the M\n\stet ot F \NA.NCE be p\eased crores compared to the position as on 1 st \0 s\a\Ef. ~an\la~. \ ~~~.
(c) The Government has taken a num- (a) the amount of domestic and external ber of steps to bring about improvement in debt and the interest thereon as on 1st revenue receipts and eliminate inessential January, 1990 and 1st July. 1990;, and low priority expenditure, to boost ex- 357 Written Answers SAAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers . 358
-ports and to increase invisible earnings, to (b) if so. Government reaction thereto; ensure efficient import substitution and to and .. reducrflpendency on borrowed funds for financing expenditure. (c) the expected Rupee balances to the cred~ of German Democratic R9Public as on [English] 31 December, 1990?
Cut In Import Ucences THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- 917. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the ANGll SHREEOHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) The existing Trade and Payments (a) the details of cut proposed in the Agreement between India and the GOR dated import licences granted under phased Manu- the 1st November, 1985 providing for the facturing Programme to curtail expenditure rupee payment arrangement between the in foreign exchange; and two countries is presently valid upto 31.12.1990. The trade will continue to be (b) the savings of Foreign Exchange implemented on the basis of rupee trading expected in 1990-91 by the proposed cut? arrangements and as per the Indo-GOA Trade Plan during the period upto THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 31.12.1990. However, having regard to the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- developments in the GDR, both the Govern- ANGIL SHREEOHARAN): (a) A cut of 15 ments are presently conducting negotiations percent has been imposed on import entitle- to avoid any disruption in trade during the ments in Free Foreign Exchange in the case period upto 31.12.1990 and also to discuss of actual users engaged in the manufacture and finalise the trade and payments ar- of automobiles, electronic items and con- rangements beyond 31 .12.1990. sumerdurCltMes. This cut will be applicable to imports of raw materials and components (c) The Rupee balances of GOR vary made under Open General Licence as well from time to time and it will not be possible to as against Supplementary Licences/after- anticipate the position as on 31.12.1990. sales service licences. Exports to USSR by EPZ Un its (b) It is difficult to assess the quantum of foreign exchange savings at this stage. 919. PAOF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the Ministerof COMMERCE be pleased to state: Trade with G.D.R. (a) whether export of goods from Export Processing Zones are covered under the 918. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the recently concluded 1990-95 trade agree- Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: ment with USSR which envisages export of Rs. 5,300 crores worth of goods to USSR; ana (a) whether the attention at Govern- ment has been drawn to the news item (b) if so, the details thereof? captioned "Efforts on for hard currency trade with GOR" which appeared in Financial THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Express of 4 July, 1990; MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answ.,. 360
ANGll SHREEDHAAAN): (a) and (b). The i) Stepping-up export production Indo-Soviet Trade Plan for 1990 envisages by the development of capture exports from India to the USSR of the order fisheries; of As. 5300, crores during the year. The export provisions in the Trade Plan are made ii) Stepping up production by cul- on the basis of exports from the country as a ture fisheries; whole and with reference to various items of export. iii) Induction of new technology and value addition; No separate provisions are made in the Trade Plan for exports from the Export Proc- iv) Modernisation of processing essing Zones and, therefore. the question of facilities, quality upgradation furnishing details does not arise. and reduction in waste; and
Target of Sea-Food Export v) AggreSSive market promotion measures. 920. SHRI KS. RAO: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: Housing Bond Scheme
(a) the target fixed for export of seafood 921. SHRI K.S. RAO: Will the Minister in the Eighth Five Year Plan period; of FINANCE be pleased to state:
(b) whether Kerala Government pro- (a) whether Government have finalised poses to impose a ban on trawling during the the scheme of issuing 'Housing Bonds'; monsoon months; (b) if so, the main feature of the scheme; (c) if so, whether the imposition of the ban on trawling would affect the target fixed (c) the public sector housing organisa- for export of sea-food; and tions that are likely to be involved in the scheme and how; (d) if so, the steps proposed by his Ministry to keep the export target? Cd) the targets fixed for the bonds;
. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) whether one of the objectives of the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRf AR- scheme ;s to help in diverting the black ANGlL SHREEDHARAN): (a) The Eighth money into productive scheme~ and Five year Plan is still at formulation stage.
(b) The Kerala Government had \m- (1) \t so, the deta\\s thereat? posed a ban on trawling from 20th June, 1990 to 22nd Ju\y, 1990. THE DEPU,'{ M\N\SlER \N THE (c) The ban should not materially affect MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- the exports. TRI): (a) to (f). No scheme of issuing 'Hous- ing Bonds' has been finalised; however (d) Government has taken various steps proposal to divert unaccounted money for to boost exports 01 mar\ne products. These housing and S\um c\earance scheme \5 under inc\ude:- consideration. 381 Written AnsW91S SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written AnsW91S 362
Seizure of Gold and Sliver In Madras SHRI R.N. -RAKESH:
922. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA Will the Minister of COMMERCE be GAVIT: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) whether a high powered business (a) the amount of gold and silver seized delegation visited South Korea to attend the in Madras in the last week of June, 1990; meeting of India-Korea joint business council in Seoul on 12 July, 1990; ... (b.) •.the d~taU~:Ph!W~sts mada¥and enquiry conducted; and (b) if so, the namesofthe members who participated in the meeting; and (c) further action taken in the matter. (c) the nature of discussion held and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE outcome thereof? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) to (c). The Collectorate of Customs, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Madras has booked only one case relating to MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AA- smuggling of gold/silver during the last week ANGIL SHREEDHARAN): (a) Yes, Sir. The of June, 1990. In this case, 1400 grams of meeting was held in Seoul during 10-12July, crude gold jewellery valued at As. 4.83lakhs 1990. approximately were seized from one passenger who had arrived at Madras airport (b) List of Indian members who partiCi- from Jakarta via Singapore. The passenger pated in the meeting is given in the state- named Abdul Khalik Ginting holding an Indo- ment below. nesian passport was arrested and has been remanded to judicial custody. (c) Discussions centred on promotion Meeting of India-Korea Joint Business of trade, investment etc. Indian capabilities Council in areas such as electronic components, chemicals etc. were noted and it was agreed 923. SHRI MANIKAAO HODLYA that groups of Korean Businessmen and GAVIT: industrialists will visit India for further tie-ups.
STATEMENT
List of Indian Economic Delegation for the 10th Meeting of the India-Korea (July 12, 1990)
~ . Of. O.C. Kotnaf\ Leader
2. Mr. Arun Bharat Ram Co-Leader
3. Mr. R. Arumugam
4. . Mr. M.R.. Chhabria
5. Mr. J.C. Garware 363 Written Answers AUGUST 10, '990 Written Answers 364
6. Mr. S.B. Goenka
7. Mr. S.K. Jain
B. Mr. Satish K. Kaura
9. Mr. Binay Kumar
10. Mr. H:M. Periwal
11. Mr. C.L. Verma
12. Mr. l.l. Narayan
13. Mr. Kantikumar R. Podar
14. Mr. V.G.S.V. Prasad
15. Mr. Vivek Singhal
16. Mr. S.N. Srivastava
17. Mr. J.C. Taneja
18. Mr. Sadhan C. Dutt
19. Dr. V.S. Palkar
20. Mr. R.K. Jajodia
21. Mr. H.S. Sandhu
22. Dr. Pai Panandiker
23. Mrs. Neela Khandge
24. Ms. Shanta Ghosh
News Item "58-Cr. Worth Heroin has been drawn to the news item captioned Seized" "58-Cr. worth heroin seized" in Jammu appearing in "The Hindustan Times" dated 924. SHRI MANtKRAO HODLYA 15 July, 1990; GAVIT: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof:
(a) whether Government's attention (c) whether any arrest has been made 365 Written Answ81S SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 366 in this regard; and (d) if so, when; and
(d) the further adion taken in "the mat- (e) whether Government have received ter? representations from any organisations and from the representatives of the people in this THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE regard? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANll SHAS- TRI): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF (b) to (d). During the early hours of 13th PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. July. 1990, the Naka party laid jointly by the UPENDRA): (a) to (d). The programme B.S.F. and the Customs in the area near 'Kudrat De Sab Bande' is regularly telecast village Agre Chak (Jammu Sector), observed on 2nd and 4th Mondays ofthe month at 7.50 suspicious movement 01 two persons. On P.M. from the Doordarshan Kendra at Jal- being challenged, they ran away towards andhar. The Kendra also telecasts another village Badhal Brahmana taking advantage programme based on 'Shabads' under the of darkness and thick Sarkanda growth. title 'Gao Sachchi Bani' on every Tuesday at During the search of the area, two gunny 7.50 P.M. Apart from this, the Kendra tele- bags containing 58 packets of heroin weight- casts every Sunday morning a 13-minute ing 58 kgs. were recovered. programme on Gurbani and a similar programme based on 'Shabads' twice a week at No precise valuation of prohibited drugs, about 5.00 P.M. which are often of indeterminate chemical strength and composition, and which are (e) A representation from Shri Guru liable for destruction, is feasible. Singh Sabha Oadian, District Gurdaspur, has been received on the subject through No arrest has been made in this regard. the Minister of External Affairs and from the Appropriate action under the relevant law Hon'ble Member Shri Kirpal Singh. has been taken. Railway Passes to Ex-MPs Discontinuation of T.V. Programme 'Kudrat De Sab Bande' 926. SHRIPRATAPRAOB. BHOSAlE: Will the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY 925. SHRI KIRPAL SINGH: Will the AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (a) whether some requests have been received for issue of railway passes to Ex· (a) whether a programme "Kudrat de MPs and their spouses; sab Bande" used to be te\ecast hom Door- darshan, Jalandhar; (b) if so, the details thereof;
(b) if so, the reasons for discontinuation (c) whether Government propose to of the programme; take action on the requests; and
(d) if so, the details thereof? (c) whether Government would con- siderto re-introduce this Gurbani"P.rogramme THE MlNlSTER OF 'NFORMATlON 'Kudrat de sub Bande'; . AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF 367 Written Ans.,. AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answell 368
PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI P. (d) if so, the details thereOf? UPENDRA): how many foreign collaborations state: with foreign equity are currently existing in India; (a) whether the Non-resident Indians (NRls) have shown keen interest in invest- (b) how many of them have positive ment in real estate housing development foreign exchange earnings for the country; plans. waste-land development and agricul- and tural activities; (c) how many foreign collaborations are (b) if~. whE;tther Government have losing foreign exchange? agreed to involve NRls in housing projects, agriculture etc; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) The total foreign collaboration (c) if so, whether any effective scheme approvals issued during the period from 1985 has been prepared for involving them; and to 1989 are as under:-
Total Financial
2 3
1985 1024 '238
1986 957 240
1987 853 242
1988 926 282
1989 60S 369 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 370
(b) and (c). The data of actual foreign Insurance Corporation (Lie) for water sup- exchange earnings in respect of foreign ply schemes, if so, the terms thereof: collaborations approved in previous years are not compiled by Ministry of Finance. (b) the rate of interest charged by the However, many of the foreign collaboration Life Insurance Corporation this loan; proposals are for import substitution and acquisition of technology which is not avail· (c) whether water .supply schemes do able indigenously. not fetch any profit; and
[Translation] (d) if so, whether it is proposed to reduce the rate of interest?
Interest on Loans Advanced by Lie for THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Water Supply Schemes MINISTRYOFFINANCE (SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) to (d). Lie of India grants loans 929. SHRI S.C. VERMA: Will the within the amount allocated by Planning Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Commission for each State for Water Supply Schemes in Urban and Rural Areas on the (a) whether loan is provided by the Life following terms and conditions; 371 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnswefS 372
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The interest rates so far charged by lIC and regulations regarding NRI investment are the lowest and have not in fact been are continuously under review and suitable revised since August. 1986. changes are made where necessary.
[English] Investigations in Corruption Com- plaints Against I.T. Officials Investment Climate for NRls 931. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will 930. SHRI RAJAMOHAN REDDY: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to refer DR. LAXMINARAYAN PAN- to the reply given on 15 April, 1988 to Unstar- DEYA: red QUestion No. 7054 regarding Complaints SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJ: of alleged corruption received against In- SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA come-tax officials and state: RAJE: SHRI GOPAL PACHERWAL: (a) out of the pending complaints how many have been investigated and the re- Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased sults of the investigations; to state: (b) how many further complaints of (a) whether Government are giving a corruption have been received by Govern- fresh look to the existing schemes in order to ment and the Central Board of Direct Taxes create a more conducive climate for invest- against (i) Income-tax Officers: (ii) Assistant ments by Non-resident Indians in India; Commissioners; (iii) Deputy Commission- ers; (iv) Commissioners and Directors; and (b) if so, the main proposals being (v) Chief Commissioners/D.Gs of the In- considered in this regard; eome-tax department from April. 1988 to March, 1990; and (c) the time by which a final decision is likely to be taken; and (c) how many out of them have been investigated and the action taken against the (d) whether the NRI representatives officers found guilty? have been consulted and their views undertaken before any complete scheme is pre- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE pared? MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRr ANIL SHAS- TRI): (a) Out of the pending 389 complaints THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE as intimated in reply to Lok Sabha Unstarred MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- Question No. 7054 answered on 15.4.88, TRI): (a) to (d). The existing schemes. rules 155 complaints have been investigated.
Results of Investigations in the cases referred to under (a) above:
(i) Penal action initiated 40 cases
(ii) complaints closed 115 cases
(b) Further complaints of corruption received by Government and Central Board of Direct Taxes from April, 1988 to March, 1990. 375 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 376
1389
Break-Up
(i) Against Income-tax Officers 632
(ii) Against Assistant Commissioners 143
(iii) Against Deputy Commissioners 251
(iv) Against Commissioners and Directors 316
(v) Agamst Chief Commlssioners/D.Gs. of Income-tax Department 47
Total: 1389
(c) (i) 241 complaints have been taken up for investigation out of the 1389 complaints. No investigation was needed in the remaining cases being anonymous/pseu- donymous etc.
(ii) Investigation has been completed in 97 cases upto 31.7.90. The details of action taken are as under:-
1. Penalty.proceedmgs initiated 21
2. Other actions initiated 3
3. Cases closed 73
Total: 97
Tax Arrears of Cine Artists (c) if so, in how many cases, and if not, the reasons therefor; and 932. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (d) the action Government propose to take to recover such huge outstanding In- (a) the details of the Film Cine Artistsl come-tax arrear demands? Directors/Producers who owe more than Rs. 1 lakh as Income-tax/Wealth-demand to the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Income-tax Department ason 31 July, 1990; MINISTRYOFFINANCE(SHRIANILSHAS- TRI): (a) The latest information available in Central Board of Direct Taxes is as on (b) whether Government have initiated 31.3.1990. The names of Film Cine Artists! proceedings u/s 226 (3) of the Income Tax Directors/Producers who owed more than Act, 1961 and Wealth Tax Act. 1957 to Rs. 1 lakh as Income-taxlWealth-tax as on attach their moveable and immoveable prop- 31.3.1990 are given in the Statement I and II erties; below. 377 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 378
(b) Yes, Sir. Ina number of cases action to attach moveable and/or immoveable prop- 1 2 erties has been initiated.
(c) and (d). Adion for attachment of 10. Anubhava Film (P) Ltd. properties has been initiated in 19 cases. In some of the cases Where properties have not 11. A.R. Raju been attached, either the demands had not fallen due for payment, or the demands are 12. Biswajit Chatterjee disputed, or there are no properties for attachment.ln some cases, recovery has been 13. Barkha Roy stayed or payment has been allowed to. be made in instalments. In some other cases, 14. Bhappi Lahiri applications for rectification/waiver of the demand/settlement, are pending before 15. C. Suhasini Hasan various authorities. Recovery of outstanding demands in all the cases is under constant 16. Chhaya Lok (P) Ltd. review at various levels. 17. Dilip Kumar STATEMENT-I 18. Deepti Naval Names of Film Cine ArtistslDirectorsl Producers who owned more than Rs. one 19. D. Venkatesh lakh as Income-tax as on 31.3.1990 20. E.V. Saroja 51. No. Name 21. Farooq Ahmed Farrpur (De- Mr.lMs. ceased
2 22. G. Madhave (Km)
1. Amjad Khan 23. G. Prabhu
2. Ashish Sen Gupta 24. G. Vijaya Nirmala
3. Amitabh Bachhan 25. Gulab M. Gulbani
4. A. Sreedevi 26. G. Venkateswaran
5. A. Venkatanarayana Aao 27. G. Adiseshagiri Rao
6. Arton Hir;lgorani 28. G. Hanumantha Rao
7. Akbar Ali Khan 29. Helen Ann Richardson
8. A.V. Mohan 30. Hermes~' Malhotra
9. Ashok Khanna 31. J. Jar.lUna 379 Written Answers AUGUST 10. 1990 Written AnswetS 380
1 2 1 2
32. Kishore Kumar Ganguly (late) 54. Navketan Ind. Film (P) Ltd.
33. K. Bhagyaraj 55. Mrs. Neera P. Mehra
34. Kamal Vijay Production 56. N.N. Sippy
35. K.A. Narayan 57. Nitin D. Kapoor
36. Kamaluddin Kazi 58. Smt. N. Radha
37. KC.N. Trust 59. D.P. Ralhan
38. KS. Dattatreya 60. Parveen Bab;
39. K 8alaji 61. Padmini Kolhapure
40. K.J. Joy 62. Mis. Prakash Mehra Combine
41- K Subramaniam 63. Shri Prakash Mehra
42. Lakshmi Productions 64. MIs. Padmalaya Films
43. Maushmi Chatterjee 65. MIs. Padmalaya Studio (P) Ltd.
44. M.R.A. Vasu 66. MIs. Praveena Films Circuit
45. M.R. Radhika 67. Rajesh Khanna
46. Mukta Arts (P) Ltd. 68. Rekha Ganesha"
47. M.S. Gohan 69. Rati Agnihotri
48. N.T. Ramarao 70. Raj Babbar
49. Nasirkhan Sarvarkhan (late) 71. Rajendra Kumar Tuli
50. Nageswara Rao 72. R. Jayapradha
st. N. Hari Krishan 73. R. Rajni Kanth
52. N. M( ,an Krishan 74. R.K. Films Studios (P) Ltd.
53. N.Jayakr ;hna 75. R.D. Burman 381 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 382
1 2 1 2
76 Ranjit Singh Virk 98. Tina Munim ~ n. Ramanand Sagtar 99. Tahir Hussain Khan
78. Shatrughan Sinha 100. T.M. Bihari
79. Shabana Azmi 101. T. Rama Rao
80. Satyendra Kumar Sharma 102. T.R. Chandran
81. Shreeram Lagoo 103. Vikram Alias M.N. Makandan
82. Sarika Thakur 104. Vidya Sinha
83. Sanjay Alias Abhas Khan 105. Vijay Anand
84. Shashi Raj Kapoor 106. Vinay Kumar Sinha
SS. S.S. Rajendra 107. Varna Shree Films
86. Sri Vidhya 108. V.C. Shanmugam
87. S. Kamal Hasan 109. V.C. Ganeshan
88. Satram Rohra 110. W. Rajesh
89. Sahan Lal Kanwar 111. Yash Raj Chopra
90. Subhas Ghai STATEMENT-II
91. S.M. Sagar Names of Film Cine Artists!Directors! Producers who owned more than Rs. one 92. Sardar Malik lakh as Wealth-tax as on 31.3. 1990
93. Satyandrapal Chaudhary 51. No. Name
94. MIs. Surneet Films Mr.lMs.
95. MIs. Sangam Art International 1 2
96. Mis. Supraja Film Studio 1. Amjad Khan
97. Shree Vijay Krishan Movies 2. Dev Anand 383 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 384
targets; and 1 2 (c) the steps taken/proposed to be taken to achieve the production targets?
3. Jeetender Kapoor THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 4. Lata Mangeshkar (SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. 5. N. T. Ramarao As against the target of 2.794 million 6. Nirupa Roy tonnes, Bokaro Steel Plant of SAIL produced 2.325 million tonnes of Saleable Steel 7. O.P. Rathan dUflog 1989-90 representing a shortfall of 17%. The main reasons for the shortfall in 8. Prem Kishan Sikand production were:
9. Rajesh Khanna i) Inadequate and irregular supply of metallurgical coal. 10. Rekha Ganeshan ii) Constraints of power supplies, both 11. Raj Kumar Pandit in qualitative and quantitative terms, from the DVC grid. 12. Shatrughan Sinha iii) Managerial shortcomings including 13. Vijay Anand somewhat unproductive industrial relations environment. 14. Vinod Khanna (c) In addition to the revamping of the 15. Yash Raj Chopra top management of Bokaro Steel Plant, following measures have been initiated to [Translation) achieve the production targets in the current year: Achievement of Production Targets by Bokaro Steel Plant i) Implementation of technological upgradation and improved tech- 933. SHRI RAMESHWAA PRASAD: niques of operation: Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state: ii) Phase-wise improvement in infras- tructural support and logistics im- (a) whether the attention of Govern- provement; ment has been drawn towards the newsitem captioned '"Bokaro Steel Ghoshit laksh se iii) Efforts to improve the quantitative padihe raha" appearing in the "Jansatta" and qualitative supply of imported dated 28th April. 1990: as well as indigenous coking coal;
(b) if so, the reason~ for the Bokaro iv} Maximisation of Bokaro Steel Steal Plant not achieving the production Plant's own power generation to 385 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 386
take care of exigencies whenever 1990-91, they should reduce their petrol DVC imposes severe restrictions; consumption by 20o/~ over the consumption during the year 1989-90. v) Carrying on capital repair and maintenance of equipment in (b) and (c). Instrudions already exist phased and planned way to im- that staff cars ~hould be parked only in the prove the health of equipment; and garages allotted near the place of duty and in the absence of garages, within the office vi) Holding discussions with various complex. interest groups. (d) No, Sir. [Eng/ish] Share of Punjab In DGS&D Purchases Restriction of Use of Government Vehicles 935. BABA SUCHA SINGH: Win the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: 934. SHRI KANWAR MUNJARE: SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH (a) the total value of Government pur- MEWAR: chases through Directorate General of Supplies and Disposals during the last three Will the Ministerot FINANCE be pleased years; to state: (b) the share of Punjab in these pur- (a) whether with a view to save petro- chases and how doeS it compare with other leum products and the foreign exchange, States; Government are considering to impose restrictions on misuse of Government vehicles (c) the reasons for not making more by officers for private purposes; purchases from Punjab; and
(b) whether it is being ensured that the (d) the steps proposed to be taken for vehicles are stationed in office premises improving the purchase position from only and not allowed to be kept in the night at Punjab? the residences of officers/drivers; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) if so, the steps being taken in this MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AR- regard; and ANGILSHREEDHARAN): (a) ThetotaJvalu8 of purchases made by DGS&D during the (d) whether any directives have been years 1986-87, 1987-88 and 1988-89 ;s as issued to State Governments in this regard? under:-
THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Year Value of purchases made MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- (in Crores of Rs.) TRI): (a) The use of staff cars in Central Government offices is governed by the Staff 1986-87 3151.59 Car Rules which, inter-alia envisage use of staff cafS for bonafide purpose. Besides, 1987-88 2722.11 instructions have been issued recently to all Central Government Departments that from 1988-89 2949.10 387 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 388
(b) The share of Punjab in the above purchases is as under:-
Year Value in Crores of Rs. % of total purchases made
1 2 3
1986-87 29.39 0.90%
1987-88 55.61 2.04%
36.23 1.23%
Barring a tew States like Maharashtra, Sri nagar station of All India RadiolDoor- West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh darshan till about a year back, have since and Andhra Pradesh the share of Punjab in been curtailed/stopped; the total purchases made by DGS&D com- pares well with the share of other States. (b) if so, the reasons for the curtailment or stopping of each such programme; (c) and (d). DGS&D as the Central Purchase Organisation makes purchases (c) whether local news bulletins (broad- on all India basis through competitive bid- castlT elecast from Srinagar station) are ding. No purchase preference is allowed actually produced in Srinagar; and State-wise in the purchase programmes of the DGS&D, now can any quota of pur- (d) whether there is a proposal to res- chases be allotted to any State. Wide public- ume the curtailed/stopped programmes, if ity is given to the OGS&O's purchase pro- so, whenl grammes and it is entirely up to the entrepreneurs of a State to show adequate aware- THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION ness and participate in the DGS&D's pur- AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF chases programmes by developing neces- PARUAMENTARY AFFAlRS (SHRI P. sary capacity, improving the quality of the UPENDRA): (a) All India Radio has stopped products and quoting competitive rates which the programmes on tourism based on inter- are acceptable on all-India tenders. views with tourists, and school broadcasts. The frequency of the programme entitled Curtailment in Broadcast/Telecast 'Rai Trai' has been reduced and it has been Programmes in Srinagar made a monthly programme from a weekly programme. Doordarshan have not stoppedl 936. SHRI PYARELAL KHANDEL- curtailed any regular programmes; WAl: SHRI KARIA MUNDA: SHRI PHOOl CHAND VERMA: (b) The reasons for stopping the programmes 01 AI\ india Radio are (i) the fall in Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND inflow of the tourists to the valley, and (ii) the BROADCASTING be pleased to state: closure of schools in the valley. The programme at All India Radio has been curtailed (a) which of the regular program~es because of the constraint in mobility for which were being broadcastltelecast by the doing outdoor recordings: 389 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Ans WSfS 390
(c) The regional news bulletins of AU (Interruptions) India are produced in Delhi. based on newsfeeds from Jammu and Kashmir; [Translation] whereas Doordarshan's news is produced from Jammu; and MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat.
(d) No, Sir. (Interruptions)
Increa.. In Passenger Tax on Air Travel [English]
937. PROF. SAIF-UD-OIN-SOZ: Will MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to Mr. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: Soz.
(a) whether Government propose to (Interruptions) enhance passenger tax on air travel; PROF. SAIF-UO-DIN SOZ (Baramulla): (b) if so, whether any analysis of factors Sir. I have returned from Kashmir after 12 necessitating enhancement of fare within six days. I want to share what I saw there with months has been done on scientific lines; this august House. I want the Parliament of and India to do its duty unto the people of Ka- shmir. Earlier I requested you to suspend the (c) if so, the details thereof? question hour today. (Interruptions) You rejected my adjournment motion. I feel. I THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE should discuss Kashmir crisis under ad- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- journment motion. (Interruptions) Your rul- TRI): (a) No, Sir. ing is a law for me, Sir. 'have to abide by your ruling. (Interruptions) \ want to inform this (b) and (c). Does not arise. nation what is happening in Kashmir.
[Translation J
12.03 hrs. PROF. VIJAY KUMAR MALHOTRA (Delhi Sadar): This issue will be discussed (Interruptions) for six hours.
[English1 (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Soz. [English]
(Interruptions) PROF. SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ: I have been permitted by the Speaker. MR. SPEAKER: Will you please take your seat? (Interruptions)
(Interruptions ) .MR. SPEAKER: Will you please take your seat? MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Sontosh Mohan Dev, I have seen you. (Interruptions) 391 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 392
(Translation J struction. I do not know whether or not the Home Minister is serving any purpose to the MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat. Government by hiding facts. But the nation I have called him.' would like to say to all of should not be misled. Kashmir is in real you. Prof. Vijay Kumar Malhotra, you were crisis. It is in a dangerous situation. We had not present at that time ...... approached the Governor saying that the Central Government's Disturbed Area Act (Interruptions) should not be passed. Butthe Home Ministry used the Governor and got that barbaric law (English] passed alongwith the Armed Forces Special Powers Act. Sir, even a havaldar or a ser- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz, I will listen to geant had the power to open fire without you as I have called you ...... giving any explanation to any higher authority or without seeking any orders for firing. (Interruptions) And what happened now? Mr. Saxena wanted to control the situation in a different (Translation J fashion but he belied the hopes of those people who believed him at that time. Now, MR. SPEAKER: The Question is that the most dangerous situation is that the when Question Hour started, Shri Soz stood innocent people are being treated as ene- up to speak. I told him that I will not allow him mies in Kashmir. Sir. do you know what to speak at that time. But' had also told that happened on the 6th of August? At Mashalj today discussion would be held on Ka- Mohalla, one BSF jawan was killed. Irre- shmir ...... spective of whoever is being killed, we have rejected all kinds of violence in this House ... (Interruptions) (Interruptions)... Sir, innocent people are killed in Kashmir. In Mashali Mohalla, some MR. SPEAKER: You may please take miscreants entered a house and killed 11 your seat. I had assured the House that I people inside the house including a 70 year would not suspend the Question Hour. But old person and a sleeping child of 8 years. he was very much impatient and the hon'ble Sir, these are the papers in which this has Members of the House had also pleaded for been published. namely, Aftab, Srinagar listening to him. At that time I had assured Times and Alsafah. (Interruptions) him that I would call him after the Question Hour. I am not denying any opportunity to [Translation] you. The solution of the problem is only this much that all of you may kindly listen to Shri MR. SPEAKER: There is no need to Soz. show the papers, your statement is enough.
(Interruptions) (Interruptions )
(Englishl {English]
PROF. SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ: Sir. I want PROF. SAJF-UO-OIN Sal: Pictures to give facts to this august House. You are also published inthem. One otthe proofs should understand as to what is happening is that Mr. G.C. Saxena himself castigated in Kashmir. Kashmir is witnessing a situation the DIG (BSF) for these killing. DG (Police) of unprecedented scene of death and de- fought a battle with the DIG (BSF) in the 393 Written Answers SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 394 control room. He told him that the BSF is not Kashm ir with us. here to kill innocent people ...... (Interrup- tions) ... You are bringing shame to the In- Lastly, I want this House to pass a dian nation by placing Mr. Saxena as Gover- Resolution to send a parliamentary delega- nor there.... (Interruptions)... Earlier, the tion to Kashmir to assess the situation there. forces of CRPF and BSF had set fire in Iqbal The ruling party has faiJed ...... (lnterfllp- Market in Sopore. BBC has said that the loss tions) works up to Rs. 200 crores since our Door- darshan and AIR do not do their services. MR. SPEAKER: You had your say; Now, it has been reported that the forces had please sit down now. set fire to two villages in Magam. (Interrup- tions) My point is: Are the forces free to treat PROF. SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ: This ruling the innocent people of Kashmir as their party has no right to be there. I want a enemies? What is this Government doing? parliamentary delegation to go there ...... Do they rely on the Home Minister who is (Interruptions) bent upon hiding facts? Earlier also the Home Minister misled the House by givmg con- [Translation] cocted figures to the House ...... (Interrup- tions) What is the policy of this Govern- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Bhat, please take ment? ... ,. (Interruptions) your seat. Shri Rajendra. you may also please take your seat. Shri K. Manvendra Singh MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude now. why are you standing? The Question is that some of the Hon'ble Members have given PROF. SAIF-UO-OIN SOl: I am not notices in regard to A.I.I.M.S. And you know concerned directly with the Prime Minister that Calling Attention Notice has been given and the Home Minister. Let them run the on this issue and Calling Attention is being Government whatever way they want. But I taken up. Therefore, this is not the appropri- am pained to see that this Government has ate time to raise this issue at this moment no policy on Kashmir, and they are indulging and ...... in negligence and dereliction of their duty. They have no poltcy on Kashmir .... (Inter- (Interruptions) ruptions) They do not share with us the true facts. How long would they go on like this? PROF. VIJAYKUMARMALHOTRA: Mr. Han. Speaker. Sir. I want you to do duty to Speaker, Sir, whenever we rise to speak, this House. Will you ask the Government. you ask us 10 take our seats. We have given the Prime Minister and the Home Minister to notice to you in writing and you are asking us lay the facts of killings of innocent people, to speak only for one minute. When we cases of fires tn which several houses were speak even for half a minute. they do not burnt etc. How long will they go on treating allow us to speak. Many Members go on innocent Kashmiris as enemies? speaking for as much as 20-25 minutes. Why is it happening? One more thing. I will speak later on the Resolution tabled by Shri Jaswant Singh. I MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Vijay Kumar have so many facts with me; I have real facts. Malhotra, it is not necessary that you may I do not speak untruth here ...... (Interrup- also do the same thing, which other Mem- tions) You kindly ask this Government that bers are doing. this House wants facts. Let the Prime Minis- ter and the Home Minister share true facts on (Interruptions) 395 Written Answers AUGUST 10. 1990 Written Answers 396
PROF. VUAY KUMAR MALHOTRA: sentially a homeland of Muslims.· The issue of Kashmir has been bungled by the Congress and National Conference. Why [ Translation] do you give them so much time? (Int9rrup- tions) SHRt MADAN LAL KHURANA: I would like to urge the Government that people, who SHRI MADAN LAL KHURANA (South are indulging tn pro-Pakistani propaganda, Delhi): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I had given you in should be arrested. writing on 8th August that some days ago an Affidavit given by the former Chief Justice of MR. SPEAKER: The entire House Jammu and Kashmir Shri Mufti Bahauddin condemns such activities. Farooq has posed a serious danger for the unity and integrity of India. A writ was filed by SHAI MADAN LAL KHURANA: They him. It has been stated on the 8th page of the are supporting the people, who are talking writ ...... (Interruptions) ...... distorted facts against the unity and integrity of India. Even have been presented in the writ. It has been after 42 years of independence they are stated in it ...... (Interruptions) indulging in such anti-national activities. (Interruptions) What has been stated by him as a retired Chief Justice is against the Constitu- MR. SPEAKER: Shri Sontosh Mohan tion. Pakistan is indulging in anti-Indian Dev. propaganda by taking benefit of it. It has been stated in it that 42 years ago India PROF. SAIF-UD-DIN SOZ: Mr. annexed Jammu and Kashmir by manipula- Speaker, Sir, I have a point of order to make. tion, fraud and force against the declared Just now, Shri Madan Lal Khurana has said wishes of people of the State. At the time of something. He is not following any rules and merger of Jammu and Kashmirwith India the regulations. numberofmuslims was 77.11 percent of the total population. Therefore, it was essen- MR. SPEAKER: What is your point of tially a home-land of Muslims. (Interruptions) order. You tell as to which rule- has been infringed. MR. SPEAKER: Why are you standing? PROF. SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ: I am raising the point of order under Rule 376. SHAI MADAN LAL KHURANA: I would like to quote the wordings of Shri F arooq in MR. SPEAKER: All right, what is yqur the House. point of order.
[English] -PROF. SAIF-UO-OIN SOZ: Believe me, I always raise a point of order according to "That nearly 42 years back India~ an- rules. I would like to say that what Shri nexed the Jammu and Kashmir State by Khurana just now said ...... (Interruptions) manipulation, fraud and force against the declared wishes of the people of the State. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Khurana. why are you speaking? Mr. Kumaramangalam. That at the time of its annexation by please take your seat. India, Muslims formed 77.11 per cent of the total population of the State which was es- PROF. SAIF-UD-OIN SOZ: Unless they 397 Written AnSWelS SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 398
stop speaking, how can I express my views. of Assam had been killed. 143 tea garden Shri Advani is sitting on one of the front proprietors in Assam had to pay Rs. 5 lakh
# benches of the BhartiyaJanata Party, I would each to the ULFA, though the original sum like you to assure him that the proceedings demanded by them was Rs. 20 lakh each. of this House will be conducted according to This matter was dialogued by the Ministers rules. along with the Tea Industries, who were asked to pay Rs. 20 lakh each. The Ministers MR. SPEAKER: This is not a point of intervened and reduced the amount to Rs. 5 order. lakh.
(Interruptions) Now, the matter is such that even the decisions which are taken by the Cabinet- [English] Government of Assam-are known to the ULFA extremists before they are known to MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz. I am here to others. who are supposed to know. Under regulate the proceedings of the House. What the circumstances. the ULFA is running a is your point of order? parallel Government in Assam and unfortunately, till today, not a single encounter has [ Translation] happened between the police and the ULFA as has happened in Kashmir. PROF. SAIF-UD-DlN SOZ: There is no need to pay attention to the points raised by In view of this and in view of the fact that Shri Khurana about the ex-Chief Justice. the election is due, I urge upon the Govern- People say many things outside this House ment, through you, to come forward here and it is not necessary to take note of them. and give a statement as to what action is Afterwards he said that we support him. being taken. I had personally spoken to the Prime Minister and the Home Minister. I . MR. SPEAKER: Yes. do you want to know that they are taking some action . say that you do not support him? O.K., now please take your seat. Shri Sontosh Mohan I would request them to come before Dev. this House-either by way of a statement or by way of a discussion-and let us know [English] what action is being taken regarding the situation in· Assam. (Interruptions) SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Tripura West): Situation in Assam in the last one MR. SPEAKER: I am coming. I will try month has become very grave.lshwar Deb, to accommodate everybody. Superintendent of Police along with his bodyguard was killed. (Interruptions) [ Translation]
Mr. Speaker, Sir, one Superintendent of Police along with his bodyguard. had been SHR: GUMAN MAL LODHA (PaU): Mr. killed. The ULF A had ow.ned the responsibil- Speaker, Sir, I want to draw the attention of ity. The Manager of Oil India Limited was the House to a strike and dharna started by kidnapped. He was 'released a1 the expense the employees of Regional Rural Banks on of three terrorists, of oourse by the order of account of non-implementation of the award the Court. One political leader, Shri Rhuite- of the National Industrial Tribunal regardings shar Saikia, brother of the ex~Chief Minister equal pay. (lnte"uptions) On 1st Septem- 399 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written Answers 400 ber, 1987 the Supreme Court of India made Sir, I fully support what he has said. The the following observation; judgement of the Tribunal should be implemented immediately without wasting any [English] time. Already two months have elapsed. I have given a notice on a yery important 'We are happy to note that the Central matter. Government has agreed to appoint a Na- tionallndustrial Tribunal to decide the future Sir, 1 ,000 railway employees, loco run- relating to pay, salary, allowances and other ning staff. were dismissed from service inthe J:lenetits payable to the employees of the year 1981. They participated in a strike, and Regional Rural Banks constituted under the the strike was there because there was an
Regional Rural Banks Act. H agreement with the All-India Loco-Running Staff Association in the year 1983, with [Translation] Government of India for reducing their duty hours from 20-22 hours to 10 hours; and Mr. Speaker, Sir, after it the Govern- though there was an agreement and a statement of India issued an order on 26.11.87 ment was made in this House, it was not that final decision would be taken in the implemented. They waited for eight long matter after receipt of the award of the Na- years, and they had to go on strike in the tional Tribunal constituted under the Chair- month of January 1981. Thousands of rail- manshipoftheformerChiefJusticeof Andhra way employees were dismissed from serv- Pradesh High Co~rt, Justice S. Reddy. I ice. The National Security Act was imposed want to draw the attention of the hon. Mem- on the striking Railway employees. Thou- bers of the House to the statement of our sands were arrested. han. Minister of Finance, who is a wise and experienced person and who claims to be When there was a change in Govern- messiah of social justice, that consultations ment, a commitment was made by the Rail- will be held in regard to the Industrial Tribu- way Minister on 28th March, 1990 that all the nal Award. 'think nobody has a right to hold cases of victimisation since 1980 would be consultations on a issue after the Supreme reviewed; but not a single case has been Court has given its judgement. It is very reviewed so far. I demand that the Railwf}f strange that after the observation of the employees and the loco-running staff who Supreme Court and after Central Govern- had been dismissed from service for trade ment orders that the award of the National union actiVities in 1981 should be reinstated. Tribunal would be final and binding, Prof. (Interruptions) Their past wages should also Madhu Dandavate is now saying that con- be paid. I demand that they all should be sultations will be held. By saying so, Govern- reinstated, after their cases are reviewed. ment wants to with-hold its implementation. ( Interruptions) In my opinion, consultations can not be held on the judgement of the Tribunal. The award MR. SPEAKER: Now Mr. Anbarasu era of the Tribunal should be implemented immediately for giving that very pay to the employees of the Rural Banks as is given to SHRI ANBARASU ERA (Madras Cen- the employees of the Nationalised Banks. tral); I will take only three minutes.
[English] MR. SPEAKER: One minute.
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MA. SPEAKER: Shri Jai Parkashji, I will MR. SPEAKER: You told me that you call you later on, please take your seat now. would take only two minutes. I have been telling you to take your seat, but you are not doing it. Will you please take your seat. [English) ( Interruptions) SHAI ANBARASU ERA: On 19th June, there was a ghastly murder in my constitu- SHRI ANBARASU ERA: I have to tell ency; 19 people were killed. including the the reality of the problem. (Interruptions) Secretary~General of the EPRLF by LTIE people. Government of Tamil Nadu has not SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGAlAM: Mr. taken any action so far. (Interruptions) There Kamal Nath has allowed me to speak first. is one Member of Parliament who is protect- On the 7th of this month, Mr. I.K. GujraJ gave ing this group. (Interruptions) an assurance in the House that he would make a statement immediately. Today is Under the blessings of the Chief Minis- 10th. Three days have passed. We are talk- ter, such a heinous crime has been commit- ing of total lack of law and order in Tamil ted in my constituency. Therefore,l want not Nadu; there is a total break-down of law and only a statement, but also a full-fledged order. Lakhs of refugees are there now in discussion. I do not know what is the policy Tamil Nadu. Wewantedtoknowthereaction of the Government on Sri Lankan Tamils. of the Government. Neither the Minister of (Interruptions) I accuse this Government: Parliamentary Affairs is reacting to it nor is they are totally anti-Tamil. (Interruptions) the Minister of State for Home Affairs reading to it. Is this the system? SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- lem): We were told that a statement was Mr.SPEAKER: Mr. Minister, he says coming; what has happened to it? (Interrup- that Mr. Gujral made a promise in the House tions) that he would make a statement immediately. SHRI ANBARASU ERA: There are two aspects. Firstly, the entire Tamil race will be ( Interruptions) wiped out in Sri Lanka. (Interruptions) SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Th~. The entire Tamil race will be wiped out would not make a statement nor would they by the Premadasa Government. The other give us any assurance about it. (Interrup- is, that the LTIE is Wiping out the other tions) groups in Sri Lanka. (Interruptions) [ Translation) MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Anbarasu, will you please take your seat? Now Mr. Kamal Nath. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE I repeat, Mr. Anbarasu, that you should take MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAI8S your seat. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL (Interruptions) MALIK): I will convey your feelings and pass on the information given by you to the con- SHRI ANBARASU ERA: Unless the cerned Minister. Minister of External Affairs comes to the House and makes a statement, I will not sit [Eng/ish] down. (Interruptions) SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: You MR. SPEAKER: Shr; Kamal Nath. 403 Written AnswelS AUGUST 10, 1990 Written AnsWBIS 404 give us the time by which you will be able to is being done by the Central Government make a statement. (Interruptions) also.
SHAI P. CHIDAM8AAAM (Sivaganga): T oday's Economic Times shows that There are five holidays in the next week. The the Government of India has almost decided statement must come today. (Interruptions) to slash the subsidy on food and fertilizer by As. 4,000 crores. Till the other day they were MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kuppuswamy,l am giving extensive publicity that this Govern- not permitting you to speak. ment is for the farmers, for the rural people and they have increased the remunerative ( Interruptions) prices and support prices for the farm products. But today, with the decision of the SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: You Government of India to slash the subsidy by ask him to say something about it. Rs. 4,000 crores for food as well as the fertilizers the farmers as well as the poor MR. SPEAKER: He is your good friend. people will be affected very badly. Particu- larly in Andhra Pradesh the people below the ( Interruptions) poverty line have been getting rice at Rs. 2 per kg but with the' slashing down of the SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: He subsidy the poor people will not be getting is not saying anything about it. (Inte"up- this facility. I wish to impress upon the Gov- tions) ernment of India not to take away with one hand what is given with the other. I appeal to MR. SPEAKER: Shri Kamal Nath. Government not to slash the subsidy.
SHAI KAMAL NATH (Chhindwara): [ Translation} Yesterday a large number of farmers came to Delhi. Why did they come? What were SHRI DINESH SINGH (Pratapgarh): Mr. their grievances? (Interruptions) Speaker, Sir, I would like to raise an important issue in the House. Terrorism is rapidly MR. SPEAKER: This is not the forum. spreading in Western Uttar Pradesh. You No, no. must have seen that about 59 murders have taken place in Meerut city alone during the (Interruptions) last 6-7 months. According to the figures furnished by the police, about 218 murders MR. SPEAKER: You please take your have been committed in the last seven seat. This is not proper. I am not permitting months in the entire district. I would like to you. draw your attention to the happenings in Meerut during the last seven months. The ( Interruptions) han. Minister of Home Affairs is Sitting here. The figures furnished by the police show that MR. SPEAKER: Shri K.S .. Rao. the State Government orthe police are unable to do any thing in this regard. Perhaps they (/nte"uptions) are under pressure from some quarter or facing some problems due to which terrorism is on the.increase in the entire Western SHRI K.S. RAO (Machilipatnam): With Uttar Pradesh. You must have read in the the entry of Shri N.T. Rama Rao into public newspapers today that people are roaming life publicity has taken precedence over about on roads with guns and pistols in their service and promises have taken prece- hands. As the han. Minister of State in the dence over implementation. Talk has taken Ministry of Home Affairs is sitting in the precedence over action. Now the same thing House, I would like to request him through 405 Written AnsW91S SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 406 you that he himself should look into this age of resources and even oxygen is not matter and assure the people there that all available in those dispensaries. The doctors the available security measures will be fully working in those dispensaries are simulta- utilised and the police will firmly deal with the neously doing private practice. You go there situation. In the case of 59 murders that I at any time, you will find that the hospitals have just mentioned, not a single culprit has remain almost non-functional. When a poor been nabbed so far. The police is unable to man goes there for treatment his dead body do any thing in the matter. On the contrary, comes out of hospital. About 50 such inci- police is seeking help from those persons. I dents have occurred there. would like to say that police is showing its helplessness. Therefore, the Central Gov- Either the hon. Minister of Heahh him- ernment will have to do something in the seH should go there or send a study team matter. and the State Government should also take firm steps. I want a reply in this regard from SHRI GULAS CHAND KATARIA hon. Minister today itself. (Udaipur): Mr. Speaker. Sir, I would like to draw your attention to the miserable condi- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tions prevailing in Rajasthan. Rajasthan is MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMilY chronically a drought area but the heavy WELFARE (SHRI RASHEED MASOOD): I rains in the desert of Western Rajasthan have already written to the Health Ministerof during last July caused wide spread devas- Government of Uttar Pradesh in regard to tation in which 129 people lost their lives and the problems raised by the han. Member and property worth crores of rupees was dam- I hope that he will take immediate action on aged. Again heavy raIns rendered a large it. number of people homeless and they are still on roads. Roads and railway lines etc. have SHRI JAI PARKASH (Hisar): Mr. been damaged. Recurrence of heavy rains Speaker, Sir, in Himachal Pradesh fruit and have created a flood like situation in the vegetable growers are on agitation since 3rd area. I would like to tell the han. Minister that July because last year. the Government of the country can not be run in such a manner. Himachal Pradesh fixed the prices of apple The Central Government has not paid any at Rs. 2.75 but the present Government has attention to Rajasthan in spite of problem of reduced it to Rs. 1.30. Farmers of the entire this magnitude. Not a single Minister has Himachal Pradesh are on agitation against gone there to study the situation. In fact, if it. On 30th July the police opened fire on you go there and see for yourself the extent peacefully agitating farmers which resulted of damage caused. you will be horrified to in the death of 3 farmers and injuries to 8-9 see the plight of the people. farmers. The Central Government should conduct a judicial enquiry into this incident I would like to submit that the Central (Interruptions) because the State Govern- Government should send its representative ment does not listen to the grievances of the to Rajasthan and give them financial assis- farmers. tance for their rehabilitation and employment. SHRI GIRDHARI lAL BHARGAVA (Jaipur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI draw your attention towards a sad accident (Jhansi): Mr. Speaker. Sir. I would like to that took place on Tuesday in my constitu- draw the attention of the hen. Minister of 9ncy of Jaipur in Rajasthan. Health to the backward areas of Uttar Pradesh like Jhansi and other areas where district MR. SPEAKER: In brief. dispensaries are in such a bad state that the people who come there for treatment die due ·SHRI GJRDHARI lAL BHARGAVA: I to lack of proper treatment. There is short- am relating the accident in brief only. Sir, It 407 Written AnSWBIS AUGUST 10. 1990 Written Answe15 408 was a very sad accident. The scene of the I request the hon. Minister to make a accident. near the Dadiwala railway cross- statement regarding this. The relevant pho- ing in Jhotwara, is a place where 4 accidents tographs, 'Rajasthan' Nav Jyoti 'Rashtra- have already taken place in the last two doot' and copies of 'Navbharat Times' are years. Keeping this in view, the local resi- laid on the Table of the House for persual by dents had made a demand for installation of the han. Minister. (Interruptions) a gate immediately. The installation of gates at the Dadiwala railway crossing and Ka- [English) maniwala railway crossing was approved 4 years ago. But due to negligence on the part SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY of Railway Administration the gates were not (Jagatsinghpur): I want to bring to the notice installed and they remained on the site for 4 of the Government through you that for the months as a result of the gates got rusted last two months in Orissa farmers have been and had to be taken back. On Tuesday the selling paddy at distress prices. This matter Jaipur-Bikaner Express hit a matador carry- was brought to the notice of the'Government ing school-children at the Dadiwala railway of India and the Government of Orissa. But crossing. 10 school-children died in the unfortunately. there is a nexus between the accident and several were injured. (Interrup- business men and others. those who are tions) buying this paddy at a rate of Rs. 140/- and even in cases Rs. 90/- per quintal. The MR. SPEAKER: You have said what business men are looting the farmers. It is a you wanted to say. nexus between business men and the FCI also who force the peasants' to sell their SHRIGIRDHARI LAL BHARGAVA: Sir, paddy at distress prices. This matter had 1112 years back gateman huts were built at been brought to the notice of the hon. Minis- both these raHway crossings and iron-angles ter 01 Food. He is not taking any steps and were fixed on four sides of the railway cross- says that the Orissa Government will do it. ;ngs. (Interruptions) When such a question was raised in the case of other States. the Central Government Sir, during the recent past there have ordered the FCI to purchase the paddy so been 13 accidents in the Jaipur railway divi- that peasants are not looted. But in the case sion. At some places railway lines pass of Orissa they are not taking this step. When through populated areas. Out 01 the 936 the loan waiver scheme has faced rough railway crossings in this division, 21 have weather and farmers are not financed be- been declared dangerous. (Interruptions) cause they do not gel remunerative prices for the paddy, they are not able to start their agricultural operations. Therefore, I request Afterthe accident, a makeshift gate was that immediately Government of India should put in place and photographs of the entire instruct Fel to purchase paddy and save the scene including the matador and the engine peasants from this loot. were taken to show that the matador had crashed into the gate and then moved onto SHR1 KADAMBUR M.R. JANARDHA- the tracks. This should be investigated along NAN (Tirunelveli): I want to know whether with the delay in installation of the gate even Shri Karunanidhi or Shri P. Upendra is the after approval was given. The concerned Doordarshan Minister. Yesterday night at officials should be punished and gates should about 10.40 P.M. in the television there was be installed immediately at the railway cross- a telecast of public opinion about the MandaI ings where there are np gates at present. Commission's report. The opinions of farm- Compensation should be given to the injured ers, labourers and some of the Hindi speak- and the kith and kin of the dead. A judicial ing Mfs were telecast. But. then. came a inquiry should be held in this matter. (Inte,- man from Tamil Nadu. Shri Karunanidhi. tuplions) whose party is not represented in the Lok 409 . Written AnswetS SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 410
Sabha. We are 11 AIADMK MPs and there genuine Kisan at all. The fake which has are also 28 Congress (I) MPs from Tamil been managed by Shri Upendra is a fraud. Nadu in Lok Sabha. We have not been given We have heard all kinds of forgery by an opportunity to speak on the Mandai elements of this Government. Forgery has Commission on TV. I am getting so many become a major word in the political diction- telephone calls from my Constituency ask- ary of India after they have come. This is the ing me as to why our Tamil Nadu MPs were first time that we have seen a forgery on. not represented on Television regarding television. Mandai Commission's report. Therefore, we must be given an opportunity to give our views on the Television on the Mandai MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude. You Commission's report. have had your say.
SHRI M.J. AKBAR (Kishanganj): Sir, SHRI M.J. AKBAR: Sir. we saw excel- while thanking you I am sorry to say that I lent acting that day on 'Khula Manch' acting could not raise the point when both Shri by the Questioner-I would not mention his Upendra ans Shri Dandavate were present name-who actually was flaunting lies in the in the House. The point that I want to raise name of questions ... (Interruptions) concerns both of them as also the Door- darshan. As you are aware, a new pro- We are discussing the kind of media we gramme called 'Khula Manch' has been in- have. troduced on T.V. This programme is an imitation of 'Janvani' which used to be tele- Doordarshan has become. under Mr. cast earlier. You are familiar with the pro- Upendra, an object of live machinations and gramme rules. The programme features a forgery and we demand that for this forgery Minister who answers. questions put to him against the audience of this country. for by an audience consisting of selected showing a fake kisan instead of a genuine members of the public. In leday's milieu of kisan. this Minister for 'nformation and Broad- rising prices, the credibility of the Govern- casting must resign for insulting the farmers ment is falling. To inllate the image of the and for cheating this great audience which Government Finance Minister Shri Madhu has by some mistake, thought that they were Dandavate was presented. Among those being told the truth ... (Interruptions). who were putting the questions was a well- known artist of Doordarshan. Perhaps be- MR. SPEAKER: Please take your seat, cause of the prevailing political situation. Mr. Akbar. farmers are being given more importance. (Interruptions) That is my personal assess- SHRI M.J. AKBAR: This is very impor- ment. At least listen to what it is happening. tant, Sir. A farmer had appeared in the programme to put questions to the Finance Minister. To the MR. SPEAKER: No, Mr. Akbar. You people, who watch T. V. regularly, the farmer's have had your say ... face appeared familiar. Later on everyone realized that the so-called farmer was ... ( Interruptions)
(English] MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Upertdra ...
I am happy Shri P. Upendra has come. ( Interruptions) The gentleman who can:te as a kisan for this programme was asked to put relevant questions ref~ing the anguish and sorrow of the MR. SPEAKER: No, I have called the people of India. and that gentleman turned Minister, Mr. Upendra. He is not yielding. out later on an inquiry to be an actor, not a Please take your seat ... 411 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 412
( Interruptions) ity to this programme. we have associated an independent producer, the Hindustan MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Akbar, will you Times T.V. owned by Mr. Birla, one of their please take your seat? Mr. Upendra, Minis- own supporters I do not know whether he is ter for Parliamentary Affairs wants to say a member of the Congress Party-and all the something ... names selected for this programme have been selected by that Hindustan Times T.V. ( Inteffuptions) I had left it to them. They selected the names and we invited them. Therefore, there is no THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (PROF. question of hanky-panky or manipulation in MADHU DANDAVATE): The Minister was this. genuine. he was not fake, Sir. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Janardhana MR. SPEAKER: You did not name him Poojary ... but you know who he was. ( Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF MR. SPEAKER: No. Mr. Akbar. You PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRt P. please take your seat. UPENDRA): Sir, I do concede that my friend Mr. Akbar has a tot of experience in manipu- SHRt P. UPENDRA: I have not con- fating the media and he was closely associ- cluded, Sir. ated with the media in the previous regime ... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I thought you have concluded. MR. SPEAKER: He is not yielding, Mr. Akbar ... SHRI P. UPENDRA: Sir, I may also add that for the future programmes, if Mr. Akbar ( Inteffuptions) suggests any names, I am prepared to consider those names also-and select seme of PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Akbar, them ... (Interruptions) have the sportsman spirit to have exchanges 13.00 hrs.
SHRI P. UPENDRA: Probably, Sir, he MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Akbar, please take must be speaking from his experience of your seat. handling the Janvan; programmes earlier where people were being collected outside ( Interruptions) the studio and being brought. This time this is not a programme thrust upon us. We MR. SPEAKER: I have asked Mr. voluntarily wanted the Minister to be sub- Poojary to speak now, not others. jected to some kind of a public scrutiny. That is why we have restarted this programme in ( Inte"upiions) a different form. Instead of the lay people being called, people concerned with particu- SHRI M.J. AKBAR: Sir, he has misled lar Ministries, dealing with those Ministries, the House. He has accused the Hindustan have been specifically selected and they Times and he has accused Mrs. Mrinal have been invited ... (Interruptions). Let me Pandey. complete. Also, Sir, previously the programme was being organised entirely by the PROF. P .J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): Hit is Doordarshan when the Janvaniprogramme found that he is an actor what action will you was being organised. To give more credibil- take? 413 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 414
SHRI P. UPENDRA: An actor also can MR. SPEAKER: I am not permitting you be a farmer. (Interruptions) to raise that issue. I am permitting you only to speak on the Mandai Commission Report. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY (Mangalore): Sir, the State Qt)vernments SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir. are being destabilised. It is a very serious do you think that it is not an important issue? matter. You are the custodian of the democracy. But here democracy is murdered. (Inter- MR. SPEAKER:- Don't ask that? ruptions) SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, a MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Poojary, I have democratically elected Government has been permitted you to raise the point on Mandai dismissed in the State. Commission Report. I am not permitting you to raise other point. MR. SPEAKER: No, no. Don't raise that issue. You can speak only on the Mandai SHRIJANARDHANA POOJARY: I have Commission Report. given both the points. The other point is also very important. SHRI JANARDHANA POOJAF3Y: Sir. you are the custodian of the House. MR. SPEAKER: You are not to judge to decide which is very important. I am permit- MR. SPEAKER: You know the rules of ting you to raise the issue on Mandai Com- the House~ We cannot discuss about the mission Report. Assembly affair here. Please speak on the Mandai Commission report. Why do you SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Why want to waste your time and the time of the is it so. Sir? The other point is much more House? I have permitted you to speak on the important. Mandai Commission Report.
MR. SPEAKER: No. You can only speak ( Inte"uptions) on the Mandai Commission Report. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Poojary, I will call SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Sir, Mr. Sathe to speak, if you don't want to speak this is very important point. I have given my on Mandai Commission Report. I have per- priority also. (InterrUptions) mitted you to speak on Mandai Commission Report, not on State Assembly matter. MR. SPEAKER: You have given your priority. But I have permitted you only to raise ( Interruptions) the point on Mandai Commission Report. You cannot raise the Assembly issue here. [ Translation]
SHRt JANARDHANA POOJARY: I am SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): On a raising an important issue about the democ- point of order, Sir. racy being murdered in Tripura. The elected Government inthe State has been dismissed. MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down, Mr. Gangwar, you may also please sit down. MR. SPEAKER: No, no. You can speak only on the MandaI Commission Report. [English] SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: So, SHRIJANARDHANA POOJARY: There Sir. you don't want to hear me ... is a conspiracy to dismiss the State Govern- ment there. MR. SPEAKER: Will you speak on the 415 Written Answers AUGUST 10,1990 Written AnSwelS 416
Mandai Commission Report or not? Well, I do not want to do that. Sir, on Door- darshan-it is a very important medium, the SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Un- entire country watches it-at 10.30 p.m. in the der what rule you are not allowing me to Parliament News yesterday, a deliberate speak? statement that your honour was pleased to chastise me was made by the reader, which MR. SPEAKER: I am not here to quote is a total falsehood, as you yourself know, the rule. Sir. From the records it is very clear that when honourable Shri Kundu yesterday had ( Interruptions) raised a question as to whether -these are his words, Sir. MR. SPEAKER: Now, I call Mr. Vasant Sathe to speak. Mr. Poojary will you please MR. SPEAKER: You should not take sit down? more time.
( Interruptions) SHRI VASANT SATHE: I know fully well. Sir. He said, "I am very thankful to you MR. SPEAKER: I have not permitted that you have rightly reprimanded Mr. Sathe. you to speak on the other point. This is what honourable Shri Kundu said. To that, you immediately said, "I have not repri- SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY. Un- manded him.- Sir, this is the record. these der what rule? are the facts. Knowing this, ifon Doordarshan the News reader of Parliament News is madf' MR. SPEAKER: You don't have to ask to state that Mr. Sathe was chastised. mildly ... that. (Interruptions). What can I do? What protection can we have, Sir? We are under your ( Interruptions) protection. If anything is done to defame or demean, you alone can protect us. If Door- MR. SPEAKER: What can I do? You darshan does this, should the han. Minister know there are rules. I have told him. He has for Doordarshan and Parliamentary Affairs- given tow issues. I have told him that he can he was here fortunately some time back... raise one issue and that is the Mandai (Interruptions). Alii want is, he should apolo- Commission. He is not going to speak on gise and correction should be announced on that. Yes, Mr. Vasant Sathe. Doordarshan in teday's Parliament News stating that they apologise for this. (Interrup- ( Interruptions) tions) . So, kindly direct him, Sir. You have to protect me because this is even humiliating MR. SPEAKER: He is not going to speak to you. Kindly direct the Government to cor- on the Mandai Commission Report. Now, rect it. Mr. Vasant Sathe. That is what I am asking you to do. I ( Interruptions) think Madhuji will also agree with me.
SHRI VASANT SATHE (Wardha): Sir. I PROF~ MADHU DANDAVATE: Was it want to bring to your kind notice a very "Today in Parliament"? serious matter. I should have raised. a privilege motion for committing contempt both 01 SHRI VASANT SATHE: Yes, yesterday the Speaker and of this House. But. Sir ... ( Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: There is no privilege. [ Translation]
SHRI VASANT SATHE: I CQuld have. SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: We take Mr. 417 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written AnSWEHS 418
Sathe's statement as correct. But he must be Speaker. Sir, I was present here on the aware of the working of Ooordarshan as he occasion to which Shri Vasant Sathe refers. himself had the opportunity to run Door- I am not on the aspect of chastisement, darshan. We have also seen him on T.V. in reprimand or whatever. I think the hon. the role of Shahjehan. Doordarshan has Member is perfectly right that whatever nothing to do with the reporting of Parliament happens in the Parliament must be correctly News. We have no direct control over the reported. It is for the Government to estab- journalists who report on the Parliament lish as to who reported what. It is not for me News. If any incorrect reporting is brought to to remind the hon. Member or to remind him the notice of the Chair, the mistake is set of what his reaction was on this very floor of right and it should be set right. The Govern- the House when Shri Samarendra Kundu ment has not got anything to do with it. had interrupted and r~ferred to it. According (Interruptions) to his impression, perhaps you had reprimanded the han. Member. The response [English] and reaction that was then witnessed by those of us who were present in the House SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, alii want to was also certainly not behoving of the tradi- say is this. I have brought to your notice that tion or decorum of the House. I would be in yesterday's Parliament News at 10.30 failing in my function if I do not bring that to p.m., a deliberate distortion was announced your notice, because subsequently in your by the reader-whosoever be the reader. I am chamber. in the presence of Shri Samaren- not concerned-saying that I was mildly dra Kundu I brought to your notice that this chastised by the Speaker which according to was in a moment of unrestrained anger, the record, I pointed out. is absolutely un- perhaps, that han. Member could not con- true. Alii am requesting is that in tonight's tain himself and words were used on the Parliament News at 10.30 p.m., with an floor of the house which were certainly not apology that such a distorted news was meriting. Definitely, I am sure, the hon. given, it should be categorically corrected so Member himself subsequently regretted. But that justice is done to me. (Interruptions) because the totality of the incident is now to be referred, I think the han. Member is per- [ Trans/ation] fectly right that whatever happens on the floor of the House must be correctly reported MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Upendra, please by Doordarshan. But the story ;s not com- look into it and make the amendment. All plete unless this aspect of it was also brought right, please sit down. out. (Interruptions)
DR. SHAILENDRANATH SHRIVA5- SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, what TAVA(Patna): Mr. Speaker. Sir,ShriSharad Jaswant Singhj; is saying? In the record, let Yadav has been referred to as Shrimati Jaswant Singhji point out even one line of Sharad Yadav in the Lok Sabha Papers. 50 what he is trying to refer as to not in keeping when orders are issued to Doordarshan with the decorum. What is he referring to? regarding making the correction, orders ( Interruptions) should also be given to make changes in the relevant record of lok Sabha, where the SHRI P. UPENDRA: Sir, Shri Vasant name oi Shri Sharad Yadav had been erro- Sathe is one of my distinguished predeces- neously spelled as Shrimati Sharad Yadav. sors. He should not be made a 'Shrimati' (Interrup- tions) MR. SPEAKER: He was your illustrious predecessor also. [English] SHRI ·P. UPENDRA: He knows the SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Jodhpur): Mr. system of reporting the parliamentary pro- 419 Written Answers AUGUST 10, 1990 Written Answers 420
ceedings in 'Today in Parliament' and in have been lost by the Government by ground- 'Parliament News'. Certain correspondents ing this aircraft. have been assigned for covering the proceedings of Parliament and the Government Recently, with a lot of fan fare, the or Doordarshan has no direct hand in what is Minister of Civil Aviation had decided to put said in that because they write their own this aircraft into operation. But because of stories. Also, in a hurry. when the proceed- pressures form the PM's Office, it has been ings are prolonged also, they have no time to told that it was the Prime Minister'S Office refer to the actual proceedings in writing. which had given instructions that this aircraft They go. generally. by what they hear here. should not start flying. It is because, the Civil ( Int9rruptions) Aviation Secretary himseH is reported to have said that it is one of the best aircrafts in SHRI P. UPENDRA: Mr. Sathe had the world and there was no technical defect. definitely a grievance. When Mr. Samaren- It was due to political consideration that the dra Kundu referred to it yesterday that he aircraft was grounded. (Interruptions) was reprimanded, you were kind enough to say, "No, Idid not reprimand". It ison record. SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM:Justbecause the Prime Minister's office and the Civil Avia- Mr. Sathe has a real grievance. I will tion Minister could not agree on how to run bring it to the notice of the writer as well as I the Ministry, a senior civil servant has to will see,how it can be rectified. apply for leave under protest. leave is yet to be granted. Most shabby treatment has been MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Kamal given to him. (Interruptions) Chaudhry. MR.SPEAKER:Yes,Mr.KrishnaKumar, ( Interruptions) are you not speaking? (Interruptions)
SHRI P. CHIDAMBARAM: It is not [ Translation] acceptable. He says, "I will see, how it can be rectified." (Interruptions) SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA (Jammu): I had given a notice regarding Civil Aviation. SHRI P. UPENDRA: I have only .said This a very serious matter. Yesterday'S edi- that how it will be rectified. I did oot say, "I do tion of Times of India has reported that the not know whether it can be rectified." I have Secretary in the Department of Civil Avia- said, "I will see how it can be rectified". That tion, Shri Ganesan, has proceeded on long means, it will be rectified, but "how", that we leave. will see. (Interruptions) [English) MR. SPEAKER: Please sit down. I have called Mr. Kamal Choudhry. I want to say that I have given a notice on this. t want that the Minister should make a statement on this. (Interruptions) SHRt KAMAL CHAUDHRY (Hoshiar- pur): Hon. Speaker, Sir, I am raising about [ Trans/arion] the economic health of this country. More than Rs. 200 crores of public money has MR. SPEAKER: Please don't mention been wasted by grounding Air-Bus-30 air- any names. craft. The Secretary in the Department of Civil Aviation has sought 3112 months leave, [English] reportedly as a protest against the way the Department of Civil Aviation is being run. He SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (Pan- is reported to have told that crores of rupees skura): I want to raise a point of order. The 421 Written Answers SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) Written Answers 422
calling-attention motion is so urgent today atrocities under 193 (Interruptions) but you are letting the Zero hour go on like . this. I protest and demand that this calling- [ Translation] attention be turned into a discussion under rul. 193 on any of the days because today at MR. SPEAKER: Shrimati Geeta. p'ease 2 O'clock. discussion on atrocities has to sit down. begin. (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I ~uld also request the Members to cooperate. This is the last MR. SPEAKER: The next five days are day of the week. There is constraint of time. holidays. I agree that today's Calling Atten- I would request you all to cooperate. You tion is on a very important matter. With your know. there is also another discussion. permission
SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: You [English] said now there is no time tor Call Attention. Our unanimous request in this House is let We can dispense with Lunch Hour if, this be treated as 193 so that it would be . you agree. properly discussed. All parties would agree to this. Call Attention on All India Institute of SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATIERJEE Medical Sciences if very important and all (Dumdum): They will consume that also for parties should discuss it seriously today. zero hour purposes.
[ Translation] SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: I would be very happy if it is possible to take up MR. SPEAKER: There is no time today. the Call Attention now.
SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Let 'SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: It should be this be taken up on the 16th under Rule 193. taken up immediately. ( Inte"uptions) MR. SPEAKER: Those who have given SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: Sir, discus- their points for raising today need not give sion under Rule 193 is listed in to-day's fresh notice. I will take them up on the 16th. agenda and Private Member bills are also to But today we cannot ignore the AIIMS issue. betaken up. Regrettably, fourdaysaretaken to pass one Bill. The Zero-Hour goes on for ( Interruptions) one hour-and-a-haHtotwo hours. Many other matters are also raised. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: There is constraint on timing. AIIMS strike is there. Notice for this MR. SPEAKER: What is to be done was received yesterday. now? THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES SHRI SATYA PAL MALIK: The Calling AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE Attention may be taken up now. (SHRt DtNESH GOSWAMI): I have been in this House for a pretty long time. There is a certain procedure for zero hour also which is [English] a innovation. Some Member were allowed by the Speaker to raise points for 20 to 25 SHRI MANDHATA SINGH (lucknow): I minutes. Is it the case of every Member who suggest that Call Attention is more impor- wants to raise an issue that he should be tant. It can be discussed today. H we drag it allowed for 20 or 25 minutes? Then how will into 193. it will drag on like the discussion on the House run? 423 Written AnswelS AUGUST 10. 1990 Written AnSwelS 424
[ Translation] (Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: Alright. I will look into PROF. P.J. KURIEN: I will make my it. point before the Minister.
[English) MR. SPEAKER: No. You can give it in writing SHRI DINESH GOSWAMt: We are not allowed to lay the papers even. ( Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. MR. SPEAKER: Now, P~rs to ~ laid. Shri Dinesh Goswami. SHRt NIRMAl KANTI CHATTERJEE: Yesterday there was a clamour in the House (Interruptions) that the discussion on atrocities regarding Agra has to be taken up at 2.00 PM. Other· MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Kurien, you can wise. it was declared in the House that write to Shri Ani! Shastri. nothing would be allowed to go. But today if you continue this Zero Hour, and after that, ( Interruptions) the Can Attention is taken up, it has to close at 2.00 PM because it will not be allowed to MR. SPEAKER: I have not permitted go (Interruptions) Prof.Kurien. It is not going on record.
SHRI NIRMAL KANTI CHATTERJEE: ( Interruptions)- If you allow the Zero Hour to continue in this fashion, what will happen? (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Prof .Kurien, I asked you to give it in writing so that Anil-ji will reply MR. SPEAKER: We will go by the list of to it. There is no difficulty. Everything is Business. I would request hon. Members not serious. The more serious matter is the to press for their issues n"ow. AIIMS strike and atrocities on Harijans.
( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)
MR. SPEAKER: You know, yesterday MR. SPEAKER; You please give it in there was so much furore. There is also the writing to Shri Anil Shastri. I will tell Shri Ani! discussion on the atrocities on Harijans. Shastri to do the needful. That must be discussed. Then, the AIIMS issue is also very important. I think, so tar as ( Interruptions) the issues which you have raised they can be taken up afterwards, on 16th. I think the PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Then, I will give it more important issues are to be taken up. to the Minister.
( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Yes, you give it. You can give it to him but not now. let him finish. PROF. P .J. KURIEN: Sir, I will take only You can give it afterwards. two minutes. ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Not now. If I permit you, then others will also want one or two min· ~Ites.
*Not recorded. 425 Papsrs Laid SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Papers Laid 426
13.27 hr•• Imports and Exports (Control) Act, 1947:- PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (i) The Exports (Control) Twelfth Notification under Representation of Amendment Order, 1989 pub- the People Act, 1950 and National lished in Notification No. S.D. Mineral Policy 646 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 18th August, 1989. (English] (ii) The Exports (Control) Thir- THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND MINES teenth amendment Order, AND MINISTER OF LAW AND JUSTICE 1989 published in Notification (SHAI DINESH GOSWAMI): Sir, I beg to lay No. S.O. 657 (E) in Gazette of on the T able- India dated the 22nd August, 1989. A copy of the Notification No. 282/ 1/MT/90 (Hindi and English ver- (iii) The Exports (Control) Four- sions) published in Gazette of India teenth Amendment Order, dated the 6th June, 1990 making 1989 published in Notification certain corrections in the Hindi No. S.O. 757 (E) in Gazette of version of the Delimitation of Par- India dated the 26th Septem- liamentary and Assembly Constitu- ber, 1989. encies Order, 1976 under sub- section (2) of section 9 of the Rep- (iv) The Exports (Control) Seven- resentation of the People Act, 1950. teenth Amendment Order, (Placed in Library. See No. L T- 1989 published in Notification 1189/90] No. S.O. 830 ,E) in Gazette of India dated the 18th October, 2 A copy of the National Mineral Policy 1989. for non-fuel and non-atomic minerals (Hindi and English versions). (v) The Exports (Control) Eight· [Placed in Library. seeNo. LT-1189/ eenth AmendmentOrder, 1989 90] published in Notification No. S.D. 845 (E) in Gazette of India Notifications under Imports and Ex- dated the 23rd October, 1989. ports (Control) Act,1947 and Annual Accounts of the Basic Chemicals (vi) The Exports (Control) Twenty· Pharmaceuticals & Cosmetics Export first Amendment Order, 1989 Promotion Council Bombay together published in Notification No. with Audit Report thereon 5.0.939 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 9th November, 1989. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MIN ISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (vii) The Exports (Control) Twenty· AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS· first Amendment Order, 1989 TRY OF TOURISM (SHAI SATYA PAL published in Notification No. MALIK): Sir, On behalf of Shri Arangil 5.0. 988 (E) in Gazette of India Shreedharan I beg to lay on the Table- dated the 6th December. 1989.
(vi;i) The Exports (Control) Twenty- (1) A copy each of the following Noti- second Amendment Order, fications (Hindi and English ver- 1989 published in Notification sions) issued under section 3 of the No. 5.0. 1060 (E) in Gazette 427 Papers Laid AUGUST 10, 1990 Papers Laid 428
of India dat3d the 20th De- (1) A copy each of the following Notifi- cember, 19S9. cations (Hindi and English versions) under section 159 of the Customs (ix) The EXpOrts (Control) Third Act, 1962:- Amendment Order, 1990 published in Notification No. S.O. (i) S.O. 380 (E) published in 76 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 24th January, 1990. Gazette of India dated the 11th May, 1990 together with an (x) The Exports (Control) Fourth explanatory memorandum Amendment Order, 1990 pub- regarding revised rate of ex- lished in Notification No. S.O. change for conversion of Swiss 113 (E) in Gazette of India France into India currency or dated the 1st February I 1990. vice-v9rsa.
(xi) The Exports (Control) Sev- (ii) G.S.R. 476 (E) published in enth Amendment Order, 1990 Gazette of Indiadatedthe 14th published in Notification No. S.O. 272 (E) in Gazette of India May, 1990 together with an dated the 30th March, 1990. explanatory memorandum regarding revised rate of ex- (xii) The Exports (Control) Thir- change for conversion of teenth Amendment Order, Russian Rouble into Indian 1990 published in Notification currency or vice-versa. No. S.O. 458 (E) in Gazette of Indiadatedthe 5thJune, 1990. (iii) S.O. 414 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the 26th (xiii) The Exports (Control) Fifteenth May, 1990 together with an Amendment Order, 1990 pub- explanatory memorandum lished in Notification No. S.O. 664 (E) in Gazette of India regarding revised rate of ex- dated the 7th June, 1990. change for conversion of [Placed in Library See No. LT- Pound Sterling into Indian 1190/90] currency or vice-versa.
(2) A Copy of the Annual Accounts (iv) S.O. 511 (E) published in (Annual Report was laid on the Gazette of Indiadatedthe26th Table of Lok Sabha on 16th March, June, 1990 together with an 1990) (Hindi and English versions) explanatory memorandum of the Basic Chemicals, Pharma- regarding revised rates of ceuticals and Cosmetics Export promotion Council, Bombay, for the exchange for conversion of year 1988-89 together with Audit Australian Dallars into Indian Report thereon. [Placed in Library Currency or vice-v(lrsa. See No. LT-1191/90] (v) 5.0. 513 (E) published in Notifications Under Customs Act, 1962, Gazette of India dated the 27th Central Excise & Salt Act, 1944, Life June, 1990 together with an Insurance Corporation Act, 1956 and explanatory memorandum General Business Rules 1990 etc. regarding revised rates of 1972, (Nationalisatlon) Act, National exchange for conversion of Saving Scheme certain foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice-versa. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE [Placed in Library. See No. LT- MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI ANIL SHAS- 1192190] TRI): Sir, I beg to lay on the Table- 429 Papers Laid SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Papers Laid 430
(2) A copy each of the following Notifi- tion No. G.S.R. 628 (E) in cations (Hindi and English versions) Gazette of Indiadatedthe 10th under sUb-section (2) of section 38 July, 1990. [Placed in Library. of the Central Excises and Salt Act. See No. L T -11 94190] 1944:- (4) A copy each of the following Notifi- (i) G.S.R. 567 (E) published in cations (Hindi and English versions) Gazette of India dated the 22nd under sub-section (5) of section June. 1990 together with an 17A of the General Insurance explanatory memorandum Business (Nationalisation) Act, providing for rebate of duty 1972:- paid on any excisable goods. (i) The General Insurance (Ra- (ii) G.S. R. 655 (E) published in tionalisation and Revision of Gazette of India dated the 23rd Pay Scales and other Condi- July, 1990 together with an tions of Service of Supervi- explanatory memorandum sory, Clerical and Subordinate seeking to provide that in ac- Staff) Amendment Scheme, cordance with a general prac- 1990 published in Notification tice that was prevalent at the No. S.O. 405 (E) in Gazette of relevant time, the excise duty Indiadatedthe24thMay, 1990. on tea shall not be required to be paid during the period from (ii) The General in Insurance 28th February, 1986 to 1st (Rationalisation of Pay Scales
January I 1989. [Placed in and other Conditions of Serv- Library. See No. LT-' 193/90) ice of Development Staff) Amendment scheme, 1990 (3) A copy each of the following Notifi- published in Notification No. cations (Hindi and English version) S.O. 478 (E) in Gazette of India under sub-section (3) of section 48 dated the 13th June 1990. of the Life Insurance Corporation [Placed in Library. SeeNo LT- Act, 1956:- 1195/901
(i) The Life Insurance Corpora- (5) A copy of the National Savings tion of I,ldia Class III and Class Scheme (Amendment) Rules, 1990 IV employees (promotion) (Hindi and English versions) pub- (Amendment) Rules, 1990 lished in Notification No. G.S.R. published in Notification No. 597 (E) in Gazette of India dated G.S.R. 462 (E) in Gazette of the 22nd June. 1990 under sub- India dated the 30th April, section (3) of section 15 of the 1990. Government Savings Banks Act, 1873. [Placed in Library. See No. (ii) The Life Insurance Corpora- L T-1196/90] tion of India Class III and Class IV Employees (Revision of (6) A copy of the Notification No. 5.0. Terms and Conditions of Serv- 495 (E) (Hindi and English ver- ice) Amendment Rules, 1990 sions) published in Gazette of India published in Notification No. dated the 19th June, 1990 notifying G.S.R. 509 (E) in Gazette of that during the year 1990-91, sub- Indiadatedthe 24th May, 1990 scriptions made to the Public Provi- together with a corrigendum dent Fund and balances subscrip- thereto published in Notifiea- tions made to the subscribers shall 431 Papers Laid AUGUST 10, 1990 Papers Laid 432
bear interest at the rate of twelve (12) (i) A copy of the Annual Report percent per annum issued under (Hindi and English versions) section 5 of the Public Provident of the Delhi Financial Corpo- Fund Act, 1968. [Placed in Library. ration for the year 1988-89 See No. LT-1197/90] under sub-section (3) of section 38 of the State Financial (7) A copy of the Foreign Exchange Corporation Act, 1951. Conservation (Travel) Tax (Amend- ment) Rules, 1990 (Hindi and (ii) A copy of the Audit Report English versions) published in (Hindi and English versions) Notification No. G.S.R. 386 in on the Accounts of the Delhi Gazette of India dated the 2nd Ju ne, Financial Corporation for the 1990 under section 105 of the Fi- year 1988-89 under sub-sec- nanceAct, 1987. [Placed in Library. tion (7) of section 37 of the See No. LT-1198/90J State Financial Corporation Act, 1951. (8) A copy of the Notification No. G.S. R. 252 (HindL and English versions) (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi published in Gazette of India dated and English versions) by the the 28th April, 1990 making certain Government on the working of amendments in Notification No. the Delhi Financial Corpora- G.S.R. 814 dated the 20th August, tion for the year 1988-89. 1981 issued under sUb-section (1 ) of section 15 of the Foreign Ex- (13) A statement (Hindi and English change Regulation Act, 1973. versions) showing reasons for de- [Placed in Library. See No. l T- lay in laying the papers mentioned 1199/90J at (12) above. [Placed in Library See No. LT 1203/90] (9) A statement (Hindi and English versions) indicating the results of (14) A copy each of the following An- market loans floated in June, 1990. nual Reports (Hindi and English [Placed in Library. See No. LT versions) :- 1200/90] (i) Report of the Gaur Gramin (10) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi Bank, Maida, for1heyear1988- and English versions) of the De- 89 together with Accounts and posit Insurance and Credit Guar- the Auditor's Report thereon. antee Corporation, Bombay, forthe (Placed in Library See No. LT year 1989-90 along with Audited 1204/90] Accounts under sub-section (2) of section 32 of the Deposit Insurance (ii) Report of the Kosi Kshetriya and Credit Guarantee Corporation Gramin Bank, Purnia, for the Act, 1961. (Placed in Library. See period form 1st January, 1988 No LT 1201190] to 31 st March, 1989 together with Accounts and the Audi- (11) A copy of the Consolidated Report tor's Report thereon. [Placed (Hindi and English versions) on the in Ubrary See No. LT 12051 working of Regional Rural Banks 90) for the year ended the 31st March, 1989.[Placed in library. See No. LT-1202190] 433 E. C. Report SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) Calling Attention 434 Agitation by Emp. of AIIMS 13.28 hrs. (2) Consideration and passing of:
ESTIMATES COMMITIEE (a) The Prasar Bharati (Broadcasting Corporation of India) Bill, 1989. Second and Third Reports (b) The Lokpal Bill, 1989. [English] SHRI HARISH RAWAT(Almora) I am on SHRI JASWANT SINGH (Jodhpur): Sir, a point of order. I have given an I beg to present the, following Re- amendment. .. ports: . ( Interruptions)
(i) Second Report (Hindi and English MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of versions) of Estimates Committee order. There is no question of any amend- on action taken by Government on ment now. Now we shall take up Calling the recommendations contained in Attention. Shrimati Geeta Muklerjee to call the 80th Report of the committee the attention of the Minister. (Eighth Lok Sabha) on the Ministry of Surface Transport-Dredging Operations in Major Ports. 13.30 hrs.
(if) Third Report (Hindi and English [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chai~ versions) of Estimates Commitlee on action taken by Government on 13.30 hrs. the recommendations contained in the 79th Report of the Commitlee CALLING ATTENTION TO MATIER OF (Eighth Lok Sabha) on the Ministry URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE of Health and Family Welfare (Department of Health) All India Agitation by employees of the All India Institute of Medical Sciences. Institute of Medical Sciences
[English]
13.28 112 hrs. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (Pan- skura): Sir, I call the attention of the Minister BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE of Health and Family Welfare to the following r. jatter of urgent public importance and re- [English) questthat he may make a statement thereon:-
THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE "The situation arising out of agitation MINISTRYOFPARLIAMENTARYAFFAIRS by the employees of All India Institute AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINIS- of Medical Sciences causing hardship TRY OF TOURISM (SHRI SATYA PAL to the patients and the steps taken by MALIK): With your permission, Sir, I rise to the Government to resolve the issues announce that Government Business in the involved." House for Thursday, the 16th and Friday the 17th August, 1990 will consist of:- [ Translation]
THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (1) Consideration of any item of Gov- MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY ernment Business carried over from WELFARE (SHRI RASHEED MASOOD): today's Order Paper. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir the Karamchari 435 Calling Attention AUGUST 10, 1990 Agitation by Emp. of AIIMS 436
[Sh. Rasheed Masood] spect of similar posts under the Central Government. Further, in the Government Union of the All India Institute of Medical promotions are linked to availability of posts Sciences, New Delhi, representing Group and no time bound promotions are consid- C&D employees and other technical staff ered as a matter of policy. The Assessment have been agitating during the past few Promotion Scheme is in operation in a few weeks for the acceptance of the following S& T organisations where flexible comple- demands:- menting scheme obtains. This scheme cannot be allowed to be considered tor any new organisation. As such it has not been found (i) Implementation of Dr. B.N. TanGon possible tor the Government to agree to this Committee Report which has rec- demand. ommended a minimum of three promotions at an interval of five The second rlemand of the employees year each for the non-faculty staff is tfiat ali !he omployees who have com- on the basis of Assessment Pro- pleted 8 years of service atter the first cadre motion; and review conducted in 1984, be also given proMotion on cornpletion of 8 years of serv- (ii) Promotion of all those employees ice. The first cadre review was done in 1984 who have completed eight year5 of tor the first time after the Institute was estab- service in a 9r ade In accordance lished in 1956. This cadre review was done with the tlTst cadre review scheme prior to the recommendations of the Fourth which was introduced in 1984 with Centra! Pay Commission. Before 1.1.1984 effect from 1st April, 1984. there was a system of selection grade to relieve stagnation in certain cadres. How- The Karamchari Union went on a relay ever, after the implementation of the recom- hunger strike from 6th July, 1990. They mendations of the Fourth Central Pay abstained from duties for three hours from Commission in full in respect of these em- 8.00 to 11.00 A.M. from 17th to 19th July ployees, the very basis of the first cadre 1990 adversely affecting the OPO services. review ceased to exist. Apartfrom elongDted They observeq total strike for a day on 24th pay scales introduced as per the recommen- July, 1990. They have now gone on an dations of the Fourth Pay Commission the indefinite strike from 8th August, 1990. Pay Commission had also introduced up to three stagnation Increments. Therefore the The demands of 1he Karamchari Union numberof personnel actually stagnating has was carefully considered 'uy the Govern- decreased considerably. In this context ment. As far as the implementation of Tan- conceding the demands of the employees don Report is concernp.d, it may be pointed virtually would mean time hour promotions out that the employees of AIIMS both minis- for the staff on completion of 8 years. This terial and scientific and technical have been cannot be done without wide repercussions allowed the same scales of pay as have not only in autonomous bodies under all been adootAd for the corresponding catego- Ministries but more significantly amongstthe ries of E'n:~ . I' es of the Central Govern- staff of other hospitals under this Ministry. ment bas8c or: the recommendations of t:!e Hence it is also not possible to concede this Fourth Cenllal Pay Commission. Since the demand of the employees. pay structure of these employees corresponds to the pay structure of similarcateg~. I would like to assure the House that ries of staff in Central Government, there IS every effort was made by the Ministry and no justification for review of furt:ler pay struc:. also by myself to explain the situation to the ture or Introduction of time bolmd promotion representatives of the employees. It is unfor- in their case alone. Any such move will tunate that despite this, thp. II nion has re- obviously havo wide repercussions in re- sorted to agitational methods including an 437 Calling Attention SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Agitation by Emp. of AIIMS 438
indefinite strike which is definite to disrupt the same can be extended to Group C and 0 patient care services. What is more unfortu- employees of AIIMS also. We see, there- nate is that the striking employees have fore, no justification for the employees to forcibly prevented willing employees from continue their agitation. While the AIIUS doing their work. Incidents have occurred have taken steps and drawn contingency where the striking workers have pulled out plans to meet the situation arising out of the willing workers from wards and have tried to strike, I hope that the employees will see cut off essential supplies of water, electricity reason and will not act in a manner prejudi- and gas. There has been a report of misbe- cial to their own·interest and the interest of havior with some staff nurses who have the Institute as well as patient care services. complained about their insecurity after such While being sympathetic to genuine griev- happenings. Deliberate attempts have been ances of employees I would like to make it made to stop the working of lifts putting clear that Government has a responsibility patients and their relatives to unnecessary also towards the public. Govt. must ensure • inconvenience and hardship. Perishable and that patients are not put to difficulty and costty items in deep freezers and refrigera- costly and perishable equipment is not put to tors have been put to risk by interfering with risk the supply of electricity. The supply of vital liquid oxygen was prevented yesterday when the tanker was sent back without being al- [English] lowed to off load with the threat that the vehicle will be put on fire. Appropriate steps MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Before the have been taken to file cases with the Police discussion starts on the Calling Attention, I under the law. The striking staff have untor- would like to bring to the notice of all the han. tunately not only adopted agitational meth- Members that yesterday we decided to take ods which has caused great inconvenience up discussion under Rule 193 relating to the to the patients but some misguided ele- Atrocities against SC and 5T at 2 O'clock ments amongst them have also done things today. I do not know whether we will be able which endanger the safety and security of to complete the discussion on this Calling the patients. Instead of taking any harsh Attention before 2 O·clock. However, I would measures I have continued to try to reason like to request the Members to be very brief with the striking employees so that they may and ask only one question. If it is not possible go back to work especially to avoid hardship to complete this discussion by 2 O'clock, at to patients from far off places. It is most S minutes to 2 p.m. we will take up Matters unfortunate in these circumstances that the under Rule 377 and immediately after that is Karamchari Union has persisted with its over we will take up the discussion under • agitation. Rule 193 so that these matters are discussed. If there are other Members left out I have set out the reasons about why who are listed to speak on the Calling Atten- Government cannot accept the demands of tion without getting an opportunity to speak. the employees. It IS not a question of only Rs. then we will postpone it to the next day. S or 10 lakh involved in payment to the members of the AIIMS Karamchari Union (Interruptions) alone but the same principle will have to be applied to all similar cases. The Government IT ransJation 1 is not oblivious to problems of its Group C&D employees. In tact on a demand raised by the JCM, Government is considenng a gen- SHRI RAM KRISHAN YADAV eral proposal for granting at least one pro- (Azamgarg): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, kindly motion in the career of all Group C and D allow me to speak for two minutes only. I employees. A decision is likely in the early want to speak on a very important matter. future on the introduction of such a scheme, ( Interruptions) 439 Calling Attention AUGUST 10, 1990 Agitation by Emp. of AIIMS 440
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now we have MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: "we com- switched over to another issue, you will get plete it today, it is very good. Otherwise, it will time for it afterwards. be on the next working day.
[English] SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: On the next working day. with the same Mem- SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE bers and with the same ballot, is it not? (Panskura): Sir, I could not follow you. (Inter- ruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: C~rtainly.
MR ,DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am re- SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: Sir, questing the hon. Members to be very brief. this is such a subject, in which one can ask As per the rules, they can ask only one a long question and short question. as well. question. That is one thing. Then. supposing if all the Members are not in a position to ask MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: According to the questions today. then we will postpone it the Rule also. every Member has to com- to the next day, so that the remaining Mem- plete/her say, within five minutes. If you bers may also ask the questions and the want, I can read it out to you. Minister may also reply. And we close the discussion on the Call Attention Motion at (Interruptions) five minutes to 2 O'clock and at five minutes to 2 0' Clock. we take up Matter under Rule SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: Is 377 which can be completed within five that how, Zero Hour is being conducted? minutes' time. Then, we go to discussion (Interruptions) under Rule 193. as we decided yesterday. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If we con- SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: We duct everything like that, then we would not will resume this discussion, after the discus- be able to do anything. sion on Private Members' Business; is this the proposal you are making? (Interruptions) (Interruptions)
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We have SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: decided yesterday that at 2 0' Clock, we will shaH be following the House, Sir. (Interrup- take up the discussion under Rule 193. We tions) are going to stick to it. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You could SHRIMATI GEETA MUKH.ERJEE: Do have asked yours questions by this time. you propose that after the discussion under Rule 193. we shall take up the discussion on SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: the Call Attention? (Interruptions) shall be asking questions; but I will not be able to finish it in four or five minutes. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The discussion under Rule 93 has to be completed Sir, I am sorry. I am totally dissatisfied before we take up Private Members' Busi- with the Statement given by the Minister with ness because Private Members would not regard to the situation in AIIMS. I, with every allow us to continue with this discussion. other han. Member in the House, including those who are not here now, share the (Interruptions) concern that this is a very complicated situation and it must be immediately resolved. From that point of view, I find that the reply SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: given by the Minister has not taken jnto Then, when will we take up this discussion? account, t~e urgency of the situation; be- 441 Calling Attention SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Agitation by Emp. of AIIMS 442 cause he says that the demands cannot be there is no justification for a further review 01 met. What are the reasons? Firstly, for the pay structure or introduction of the time demand that the employees' promotional bound promotions as any such move will avenues by opened and that they be treated obviously have wide repercussions. etc .• on a special category as far as pay structure Just prior to that, he says that only a few is concerned. he says that it would then cases are left. If only a few cases are left, is apply to every other Central Government it not a fact that for those few cases, the institution. Research and stagnation are entire Institute should not be held at ransom contradictory and it really cannot happen in and that should be given? Is it not a fact that life if we are serious. It is not only this it is not only this thing which has created the institution. The Fourth Pay Commission did tension in AIIMS today, but it is a general notfix a single pay scale for each category of absence of credibility in the present leader- employees; for example. the research and ship by the Faculty members, by the employ- scientific institutions like the lSI. Bhaba ees, by different sections of people con- Research Institute, TIFR, have a different nected with the entire institution there, which scale for the same category of employees in has created this difficulty? Is it not a fact that Central Government departments. Has that there were 9 strikes since 1985 in the same been the case with all the other Government Institute? Is it not a fact that the Director of employees? No. Therefore, in these research this Institute has already been given exten- institutions-whether research is conducted sion twice and that has created a very seri- or not, that is a different thing, but these are ous situation in the minds of the employees research institutions-this should not stand as well as the Faculty people that they do not in the way. (Interruptions) feel that this leadership will take up their case as they should? Is it not a fact that five MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Madam, I do Janata Party MP's have made serious alle- not want to offend or obstruct you. But, I gations in the Press that very grave irregu- would just like to bring to your notice, about larities have been committed there while the rule on this. buying certain instruments, etc? It it not a fact that in the same situation for such alle- 'There shall be no debate on such gations, a non-bailable warrant was issued statements at the time it is made. But, against another Director of a Medicial Insti- each Member in whose name, the item tute in Lucknow? Is it not a fact that here the stands in the List" of Business, may, appointment of the Director was done in with the permission of the Speaker, contravention of the rules? Clause 4 of Rule ask a clarificatory question'. 7 of the AIIMS Act regarding 'Creation of post and appointment reads": "In the event of SHRIMATJ GEETA MUKHERJEE: That, the Director proceeding on leave, resigning I am asking. or retiring, 10r the post falling vacant in any eventuality, till such time a new Director is Is it not a fact that there are certain appointed, the President may appoint the research institutions, like the ones J men- senior most Professor to look after the func- tioned already, employees of which are en- tions of the Director for a period not exceed- loying the same bene1its, as are being ing six months." demanded by the employees of the AIIMS? Is it not a fact that TIFR, BARC, lSI, ICMR, Is it not a fact that by granting extension, etc., are enjoying the same benefits? About this clause was totally contravened and that promotions, he said that these cannot be created further crisis in the AIIMS. There- done, etc., etc. It is not a tact that the same lore, as you have appealed to us, I ask: Is tne kind of promotional avenues are to be given Minister really prepared to conduct a thor- for the research institute if it has be really ough CBI Probe into th, situation obtaining inspired? According to his own statement, in AIIMS today includir. ~ the conduct of its very few peop~e are to be given. He says that Director in managing the finances? 443 Calling Attention AUGUST 10, 1990 Agitation by Emp. of AI/US 444
(Smt. Geeta Mukherjee] 'issued orders of further extension merely 15 days before June 30. the date on which the In the AIIMS, credibility in the leader- director was to retire. As per the rules of the ship can be restored if such like extensions Institute, the new director is elected three are not given? Is the Minister also prepared months before the date of retirement of the to examine de novo the cases of the employ- previous director. But he violated the rules ees as presented by me? and took the step just 15 days before the retirement. We do not know what is the lastly, I also want to make a special secret behind it. But the thing is that neither appeal to the employees to change their there is lack of leaders nor policies. But what present behaviour. But it is necessary that is required is the sincerity of purpose. Now special appeal also requires special treat- the intention of the han. Minister has been ment. I hope, while answering, he will tell us questioned • ...... what special treatment he will give for the special appeal which we are prepared to Extension was given despite the charges make so that the strike ends and the credibil- of corruption that have been levelled against ity of the AIIMS leadership is restored. him ... (Interruptions)
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PROF. YADUNATH PANDEY (Hazar- SHRI HARISH RAWAT: ... *< ...... I have ibagh): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through no grudge against anyone. I am unhappy you I would like to draw that attention of the over what has been taking place in the han. Minister towards the indefinite strike Institute because it is not functioning prop- started from the 8th of this month by the erly and many complaints have been re- employees of All tndia Institute of Medical ceived to this effect. The person whom you Sciences. I support what Shrimati Geeta are referring to cannot come here to defend Mukherjee has submitted, we are not satis- herself. Do not mention her name. fied with the statement given by the hon. Mini&ter. When the strike started Shri Advani had talked to the hon. Prime Minister. the Minister of Finance and other Ministers who MR. DEPUTY ·SPEAKER: Do not are present in the House. But the measures mention the name of an individual. required to deal with it were not taken. PROF. YADUNATHPANDEY: Dr. Ram MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you have Nigam Swami was made chairman of the any doubts in regard to the submission he Selection Committee. has made in the House, you may seek clarification. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Again you are making a speech. You cannot talk about PROF. YADUNATH PANDEY: I would it. You are supposed to keep the rules in like to draw your attention to the irregularities mind while speaking in the House. and violation of rules which took place in that Institute. This is a matter related to the (Interruptions) employees. But he has concealed some facts while giving his statement. The previ- PROE YADUNATH PANDEY: The ous Government had given six months' expe~on who was made chairman had been tension to the Director of the Institute. In the advisor to Shrimati Indira Gandhi and December the new Government took over. Shri Rajiv Gandhi. When AIDS spread in The change in Gr 'ernment do not reflect India a machine costing Rs. 25 crores was any change in the. [itude. The hen. Minister purChased from America. Her son works as
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an agent of some company. She has taken Coffee .Board. The Indiscriminate taxes commission. In this manner the functioning imposed by State Government, for example. of the Institute is being affected. (Interrup- purchase tax, with retrospective effect, on tions) the one hand, and the small margin that sale price of coffee has over production cost. on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Such the other hand, has made it impossible for speeches cannot be allowed. You have to the small and marginal coffee growers to pay put a question. tax, repay loans and purchase insecticides and f3rtilizers. PROF.YADUNA TH PANDEY: The hon. Minister may kindly tell whether it is true or Instead of trying to help out the coffee not that the director selected the chairman growers, the Coffee Board and the Govern- and the chairman selected the Director, ment are more keen to help the instant whereas the chairman works under the di- coffee manufacturers. rector. It is, therefore, earnestly requested that MA. DEPUTY ,SPEAKER: Pandey ji, I the hon. Minister for Commerce may take feel that you want to speak extensively on immediate steps to see that coffee growers this issue but the time is very short and we are assured of remunerative price. The State have to discuss many other important is- Government may also be requested to with- sues.Therefore I will give you a chance next draw the purchase tax levied with retrospec- time. Now I am taking up the next matter i.e. tive effect. Immediate urgent steps must Matter Under Rule 377. also be taken to revamp the Coffee Board. Other Ministries may be requested to extend better financial assistance to coffee growers. 13.56 hrs. (ii) Need to expedite construction MATIERS UNDER RULE 377 of the by-pass for the National Highway No. 47 In Qullon town in (I) Need to take 'steps to Improve Kerala the 101 of coffee growers of Ker. a IJ, Karnataka and Tami: NNJl- S. KRISHNA KUMAR (Quilon): ~,Jty Speaker, Sir, the proposals for [English] , ~; "Iuction of a byepass for the National .iigtlway 47 in Ouiloa town in Kerala wa~ SHRI MULL'" • At LY RAMACH"., nitiateo ]5 early as in 1959. The present DRAN (Oanr-a-: t.t. Deputy-Sceake. -llignment was fina!ly approved by the Gov- Sir, the coffee gr':Mii:rSof Kerala, Karnata' .nrnent of India, Ministry of Surface Trans- and Tarnil Nadu are facing the worst crisis ,. port in May, 1970. several decades, The byepass is to start from Km'. 4881 In Kerala. tne district of Wyanad pro- 972 of NH 47 at Kavanad near Sakthikulan- duces the largest quantity of coffee. The gara at the North up to Km 502/804 near small and marginal coffee growers are the Thattamala at the South end. The entire land worst affected by the present crisis and are through which the byepass passes is aligned on the agitational path to seek justice. except the portions where it crosses the back water which is owned by private parties The present crisis is precipitated not and hence land acquisition is a major hurdle only by the fluctuations in the international inthe formation of the byepass. The approxl- market but is aggravated by the policy ']f the mate cost of land acquisition together with Government and indifferent attitude c~~'-',' cost of work comes to Rs. 700 lakhs. 44 7 Matters Under AUGUST 10,1990 Ru1B377448
[Sh. S. Krishna Kumar] around 'Ansupa' accompanied by large scale siltation, mushrooming of water hyacinth and As the alignment had been approved in algae, have turned the sweet water lake into 1978 and demarcations made, the land a swamp. owners are being put to great difficulties due to delay in land acquisition. Abouttwocrores The State Government is not financially of rupees has already been sanctioned for sound to desilt the lake. In order to save that the project. The land acquisition which has sweet water lake from extinction, I urge the been done in stages and which is now mid- Government of India to draw a time-bound way has to be completed and compensation programme to desilt and beautify the lake paid to the land owners. with 100 per cent Central assistance. Only then perhaps it will remain a tourist spot per Sanction for the land acquisition esti- excellence. mates for the entire phase I and II of the project and sanction 10r starting construction 14.00 hrs. of the byepass according to the alignment already sanctioned, may be expedited. The (Iv) Need to construct FCI godowns State Government be directed to complete In several district of Marathwada the land acquisition without further delay and region In Maharashtra construction work of the byepass should be completed on top priority basis. DR. VENKATESH KABDE (Nanded): Food Corporation of India is a massive or- This is a long cherished essential proj- ganisation with godowns for storage of food ect for the development of Quilon in particu- grains at different places. Manmad in Ma- lar and Kerala in general. The Government harashtra has one of such large godowns. of India may implement the project within two The supply of food grains depends on timely years as a priority project. and efficient distribution of food grains from this large depot. Availability of wagon, diesel (Ill) Need to dlsilt Ansupa Lake In engines and other logistic problems have Orissa ' hampered timely distribution of food grains to many districts in Marathwada. Nanded, SHAI GOPI NATH GAJAPATHI (Ber- Latur, Beed districts have earmarked land hampur): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, it is a for construction of ,godowns for Fel but no matter of grave concern that 'Ansupa', the action has been taken so far. The supply of second largest lake in Orissa in on the verge food grains in fair price shops at the begin- of extinction.The first largest lake of the ning of every month will go a long way to help State, Chilka is Asia's largest blue lagoon. the com mon man fight the battle of steep rise But 'Ansupa' is the only largest sweet-water in prices of consumable items. May I request lake in the State of Orissa. It was drawing a the Agriculture Minister to kindly construct large number of tourists because of its beau" godowns at Nanded, Latur, Beed and other tiful surroundings, sweet water and above all districts of backward Marathwada region in its tranquil location. Maharashtra.
Thousands of migratory birds come to (v) Need to d~al firmly with organi- this lake every year from far-off places like sations indulging in anti-national Siberia and the Caspian Sea. Its clear wa- activities in the country, particu- ters and undisturbed environment add to its larly In eastern region beauty. So, it is often and rightly called 'Surupa', which means beautiful. But ;s re- [ Tra,ns/ation J grettable that this beautiful lake in Orissa no longer attracts either migratory birds or tour- SHRI JANARDAN TIWARI (Siwan): ists. Heavy exploitation of vegetation in and There is a net work of anti-national elements 449 Matters Under SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Disc. Under Rule 193 450 Rule 377 Contd. Atrocities on 5C 5T in the country in the eastern regions of the country like to save the dying jute industry in West Ben- Assam, Nagaland, Mizoram, Tripura etc. gal. ULFA in Assam is creating chaos. Recently on July 17, 1990 the General Manager of (vII) Need to take steps to uproot Indian Oil, Assam and his son were kid- corruption prevailing in our flapped. By now, the people of ULFA have society killed about 40 'prominent industrialists. On the other hand Bodo movement, is causing SHRJ ANADI CHARAN DAS (Jajpur): It large scale destruction and demanding a is enshrined in the preamble of our Constitu- separate State. It is my submission that the tion that India is a Secular Socialistic and Government should take appropriate action Democratic Republic. We have to take some to deal with such anti-national elements. concrete steps if we want to establish socialism in our country. This will be possible if we (vi) Need to take steps to revamp take some drastic steps to check corruption Jute industry in West Bengal in public life. We have fixed ceiling 01') property as well as on income. Lists of movable [English] and immovable property of every person must be maintained. Everybody must submit SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL (Joyn- his property return to the local T ehsildar agar): Sir, the century old jute industry, which every year by the end of March. Provision had its origin in Bengal, is not only languish- should be made in such a way that a copy of ing but is almost without any hope of re- the list of properties under the possession of demption. This industry was not only earning one person can be obtained by any other considerable foreign exchange for the Gov- person on depositing some token fee before ernment but was also a great source of the Tehsildar. The property return of every employment. Instead of modernisation and person should be scrutinised once in very rehabilitation of old jute mills, jute barons are three months. I urge the Government to setting up industries outside West Bengal bring legislation in this regard without any with the result that there has been lock-outs further delay. in more than half of the West Bengal's 77 jute mills, throwing out of employment several thousands of workers. Government at one time set up the Bureau for Industrial and 14.07 hrs. Financial Reconstruction in the interest of the industry as well as workers and then DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193 established Jute modernisation Fund. Un- fortunately I the BIFR has failed to rehabili- Continued Atrocities of Scheduled tate the sick jute mills. Castes and Schedu led Tribes In the Country - Contd. Earlier the West Bengal Assembly had passed a Resolution urging nationalisation [English] of the jute mills. This did not cut any ice. Now, in this situation, eitherthe Government should MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, we will prevail up on mill-owners to re-start their take up discussion under Rule 193-0iscus- mills or take them over. Further Government sian on atrocities on Scheduled Castes and should consider the banning of use of Syn- Scheduled Tribes in the country. thetic granules for packaging materials that replace jute bags. The Trade Unions have Kumari Mayawati. also reijresented against the use of circular looms, which have resulted in rendering [Translation] thousands of workers unemployed. It is high time that Government should do something KUMARI MAYAWATI (Bijnor): Mr. 451 Disc. Under Rule 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 ST in the Country 452 Con rd. Atrocities on SC [Kumari Mayawati] your accordingly but please do not disturb her like that. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on April 14, 1990 on the occasion of the birth centenary of Dr. KUMARI MAYAWATI: I would like to Ambedkar the former Prime Minister of India draw your attention towards the untoward Shri V.P. Singh has declared the year 1990 incidents that took place in Agra and I would as the year of social justice. But since then like to present before you, some naked truth wide-spread injustice is being done and regarding those incidents. I am not present- atrocities are being committed on the poor ing these things before the House, on the and down-trodden people in various parts of basis of any hearsay, rather, I myself visited the country. I would not mention all the Agra on the 6th July and 2nd August. Our incidents but certainly refer to the Agra inci- Party President Shri Kanshi Ram our MLAs dent. It was such a horrible incident which in U.P. and other hon. M.Ps also visited never took place even during the rule of the Agra. When we went to Agra, the District Congress Party. Sir. I want to put various Magistrate and the S. P. made the necessary aspects related to that incident before you. arrangements for us and also 2'lowed us to I would like to clarify that when the discus- hold a meeting in the Court premises. It sion was held under rule 193 on 8th, mem- appeared from the attitude of the D.M. and bers of Janata party and Janata Dallevelled S.P. that the Prime Minister of the country the charge that the members of Bahujan was directly involved in the clashes that took Samajwadi party and the Congress Party place in Agra. I would like to present some were Involved in the Agra incident. So , facts before you, which would prove beyond would like to tell the members of BJP and doubt that the Prime Minister had a direct Janata Dal that if we had joined hands with hand in organising the clashes there. (Inter- the Congress. that party would have been in ruptions) the power and Janata Dal would have gone out of power ... (Interruptions) SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI (Rewa): I am on a point of order. Rule 352 of SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Who the Rules and Procedure clearly states that was responsible for all these atrocities. You an advance notice should be gj.,/en. if any are speaking here in the House ... (Interrup- charge is levelled against a particular p9r- tions) son. Han. Shrimati Mayawati has levelled such a serious allegation against the Prime KUMARI MAYAWATI: Kindly listen to Minister by saying that he is directly involved me. (Interruptions) in the clashes that took place in Agra. No advance notice was given by the han. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please take Member in this regard. I request you to your seat. expunge the allegations made by the han. Member, from the proceedings of the House KUMAR! MAYAWATI: I would like to and the han. Member should be asked to place the facts. (Interruptions) withdraw the allegations levelled against the Prime Minister and also refrain from such MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Joshi, if action in future. (Interruptions) you want to say something, I will give you time forthat. but you should not stand up like SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): In her this again and again. . speech. Kumari Mayawati has referred to the office of the Prime Minister, she did not (Interruptions) mention any memberor any other person, by name. Had she named any member or person. while levelling the charges, we could MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you want to say that she should give advance notice. speak, I will note down your name and call She' ha$ referred to the offices of the Prime 453 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) 5 T in the Country 454 Contd. Atrocities on SC Minister, the Home Minister and the Chief (Interruptions) Minister and as such. the point of order raised by Shri Shastri is baseless. It is noth- PROF. P.J. KURIEN: What is this? ing but a point of disorder. (Interruptions) [Translation 1 SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: Rule 352 clearly provides that no allegation MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I want to should be levelled against the Prime Minis- repeat that when Kumar; Mayawat; is speak- ter or any other Minister. (Interruptions) ing, you should not disturb her. Your behaviour shows that you do not want her to speak SHRI KALKA DAS (Karol Bagh): Mr. on the issue, she has raised. This is not right. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if charges are levelled I would like to tell Madam Mayawati that she against any person holding responsible of- should not mention anybody's name. Simi- fice, it creates unnecessary disorder. There- larly, it won't be proper on her part to drag fore, you may please tell her not to level any any office into the controversy while discuss- allegations. (Interruptions) ing criminal cases. While speaking, she should keep all this in mind. If she has said MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: We are hav- anything unpalatable, there is no need to ing a discussion on the atrocities committed raise a hue and cry, again and again. The against the Scheduled Castes and Sched- hon.Minister is present in the House and he uled Tribes. If any ctlminal incident has taken willgivethe necessary reply. However, if you place and allegations are levelled against a want to speak on this issue, then you may person holding an office, about their involve- send your name to me. I shall provide you an ment in the incident, then it amounts to a very opportunity to speak. serious allegation. In such a situation, it is essential that the person against whom the (Interruptions) allegation is levelled should be aware of it in advance. You should talk about it, keeping [English] this in mind. You can say that the Govern- ment is responsible for the clashes. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Joshi, I will not allow you to speak. You should sit [English] down. If I am not allowing members from this side to speak, I will not allow you also to SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Cooch speak. Behar): In this House the Prime Minister is one. If you are making an allegation against [Trans/ation ] him, you should come out with documents. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: PROF. P.J. KURIEN (Mavelikara): I am She should accept that she has committed a on a point of order. grave mistake by levelling such serious allegations. (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: When I am speaking you will not raise a point of order. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Shastri, When I am on my legs, there is no point of I don't deny what you are saying. I am just order. putting the matter straight. You should cooperate with each other. Please don't make (Interruptions ) an issue of it.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have to (Interruptions) follow some discipline I WOu Id be constrained to pass some remafk~ .gamst you. You MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Prof. Kurien, please behave properly In the House. I will listen to you later on. 455 Disc. Under Rule 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 ST in the Country 456 Contd. Atrocities on SC [Eng/ish] [ TransJation ]
PROF. P.J. KURIEN: I did not stand up MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. when you were speaking. I stood up only Kumaramangalam you are not allowed. when you were not speaking. I am very sorry. [English]
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: h is all right. We are discussing atrocities against Forget it. Harijans and if you are trying to say something which involves somebody in criminal (Interruptions) matters, you shall have to be careful. I have given my ruling very carefully and it is not for PROF. P.J. KURtEN: I want to make any MeiTlber to raise a discussion on that one submission. ruling. If thi~ is allowed to be done, there will be an unending discussion. So, please be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You cannot careful. I have not said that you cannot say make a submission on my ruling. You do not anything against Government. But when you challenge the ruling. are saying something against an individual, even by mentioning designation and it in- PROF. P.J. KURtEN: I accept your volves acriminalcase, then you shall haveto ruling. , never questioned your ruling. , am a be very careful. Yes, Mayawatiji, you con- Member of this House for the last ten years. tinue. During the last Lok Sabha I have seen that always charges were made not in the [Translation] name;-not in the name. Even Botors Charge was raised against the Prime Minister Shri KUMARI MAYAWATI: Hon. Mr. Deputy Rajiv Gandhi here in the House and it was Speaker, Sir, I completely agree with you allowed. Number of times it was allowed. and I would like to assure you and the House You please go through the record. Please go that t am presenting some facts about the through the record. I would request you to caste clashes that took place in Panwari reconsider your ruling that designations village of Agra district, after considering all cannot be mentioned while levelling the aspects and I would also like to clarify that I charges. This is a new precedent you are have not dragged that office of the Prime creating. Minister into this. I did make a reference to the Prime Minister, but it was because he is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now you are the leader of the nation and he is heading the challenging my ruling. country's Government. Therefore, I am aware of the seriousness of the charges that I am PROF. P.J. KJ,JRIEN: I am requesting. levelling, because I am making these allega- I am not challenging. I am only requesting. tions after considering all pros and cons and I take full responsibility for this action. I should be allowed to presentmy point. I am MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Kurien, not going to withdraw my statement. I would please sit down. t expect the Whip of the give vent to my feelings and no one should Opposition Party to be very careful in making try to stop me from saying, whatever I want the statement. Now, I have said that if there to say in the House. f raised this issue in the is a regular motion against anything and if House, because it is a matter involving the something is mentioned, that is different. oppressed and downtrodden people. Sir, Now, here we are discussion the atrocities. now that I have replied to whatever you ~ave said, I would like to speak on the incidents of violence that took place in Panwari village of ( Interruptions) Agra district. 457 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) 5 T in the Country 458 Contd. Atrocities on SC . Now, I would like to tell you that these indulging in hearsay. There is a village named clashes took place in Panwari village of Agra Dhanauli at a distance of 6 kilometre from district, which is situated at a distance of Agra. In this village thousands of Jatavas about 17-18 kilometres from Ag ra city. The were forced to flee from their own Panwari clashes took place there on 21 st June. Be- village and their womenfolk were dishon- for'e that day, that is from 18th to 20th June, oured. I had gone there on the 6th July to 30000 heavily armed Jats started gathering listen to their wC?es. There were more than at panwari village, at the instance of the one thousand women there. They told me Prime Minister. Meanwhile, the Jatavs of that not a single female, right from a child to Agra city made written representations to an e Ide rly lady, was spared by the Jats. They both the D.M. and S.P. expressing appre- did not spare even those girls whose age hensions about the possibility of clashes, on was just five years. Most of them were raped the day of the marriage. These apprehen- and chest of some elderly women were cut. sions were also aired in the daily newspa- Girls aged 3-6 months were teared of into pers from 18 to 20th June. The Dalit organi- pieces. Some of them died. Such horrible sations also made repeated representations incidents took place during the carnage in 20 to the District Magistrate and the Superin- to 25 villages near Panwari. The Govern- tendent of Police in this regard. During three ment should have taken some action in this days between 18th to 20th of June. 30 thou- regard as these distressed people have not sand armed Jats assembled there. The D.M. yet returned to their villages from Dhanauli. as well as S.P. and administration know of it They are lying there under the open sky even through newspapers. One may ask. why 30 in this rainy season. The Government has thousand Jats were allowed to assemble at done nothing in this regard. We have given Panwari between 18th to 20th of June? Riots them 20 tents on behalf of the Bahujan occurred on 21 st. No action was taken by Samaj Party and now they are have taken D .M. and S. P. and these people were neither shelter under these very tents. The Govern- arrested nor apprehended by the admini- ment has not arranged for their food either. stration, despite all information. This is the We have sent them food from Delhi. I have reasons that I alleged that P.M. had a hand toured in mostot the localities there. In these in all this. It proves that Panwari carnage was 20 to 25 villages, the women were forced to preplanned. leave in just one Ohoti. We have sent them clothes to cover their bodies. The Govern- Secondly, afterthis carnage on 21 st the ment claims that it has helped them. But I 30 thousand Jats entered into about 20 or 25 would like to say that even today these villages near Panwari where Jatavs are in people are staying there far away from their minority. Sir, I would like to assure you of the homes and village. Government has done validity of this statement. Meanwhile. Agra nothing for them. was kept under curfew despite no dispute there and in Panwari where the rioting was Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is the re- going on, there was no curfew. Agra was sponsibility of the Government to resenle kept under curfew to stop the Jatavas who them and enable them to lead a honourable wanted to go to Panwari to help their breth- and graceful life as their houses have been ren and 1009 Jatav youths were arrested. destrayed, their belongings looted and their During the 24 hours' curfew the police and women-folk dishonored. I would also like to P.A.C. entered into the houses of Jatavs and substantiate my statement with facts be- humiliated their womenfolk on the pretext of cause Janata Oal and Bhartiya Janata Party searching operation. Besides, in at least 20 Members are saying that I am making alle- or 25 villages nearly 30 thousand Jats en- gations against the Prime Minister. I would tere'd and robbed the Jatavas, broke their like to tell clearly tha~ the incidents of injus- limbs and dishonored 'their womenfolk. I tice and tyranny are increasing even after would like to tell you that I myself have coming into force. ot 'Prevention of Atrocities spoken to these distressed women. I am not Act' on 30th January. 1990. Though Shri 459 Disc. Under Rule 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 ST in the Count/}' 460 Contd. Atrocities on SC [Kumari Mayawati] not the P .A.C. personnel of the aggrieved section ware deployed there or at least per- Ram Dhan, Chairman of the National Com· sonnel of some third section should have mission on Scheduled Castes and Sched· been sentthere. Similarly, why the arms, etc. uled Tribes had gone there, he has pre- of these people were not confiscated as per sented no report in this House. Our Welfare the information? Who had asked them not to Minister also has presented no report in this confiscate the arsenals? Who is responsible connection. Not only this, Prime Minister has for all this? used Jats as a tool for maligning Chaudhary Devi Lal so that his Chair may remain intact. Mr. Deputy Speaker, when it is. the You may also have read that just prior to the question of construction of Ram.Janmab- 21 st of June there was a slogan about hoomi-Mandir some people try to enlist the Chaudhary Devi Lal:- "Tau pura taulega, support of Harijans, but no one goes to Agra Lal Quila se bolega." From this Prime Minis· to listen to the complaints of the people in ter felt that his chair was in danger and he Agra where Harijans were killed. There is no took the help of Chaudhary Ajit Singh and one to wipe their tears. Today,lwould like to used the Jats as tool and Jatavas were made reveal something more in this House. Prior scapegoat. to this. I had gone to Meenakshipuram. There some people had embraced a new religion. Therefore, I would like to tell the House I asked about their well being. At this they that we would not let Jats and Jatavas fight said that they were much better in the new among themselves. We would generate the religion. They said thattheyfaced no atrocity feeling of brotherhood among them and make after their conversion from Hinduism. This is them to face you squarely. not a statement fabricated by me. It is the voice of their soul. I would like to appeal that With these words I conclude and thank people should try to understand this reality. you. Atrocities on Harijans are continuing even today on a large scale in the country. If these SHRI R.N. RAKESH (Chail): Mr. Dep- go on, others may have also by force, to take uty Speaker, Sir, for the last two days discus- recourse to conversion as it happened in sion on Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Meenakshipuram. Tribes is going on. Some of my friends were offended by the allegations levelled by that The incident of Manawari in Rajasthan side and they were also offended when their is known to all of us, where 16 Kanjars were allegations were answered or countered. burnt, their homes were gutted, their wives After these two days a situation has come up and daughters were molested. Whose Gov· in which those who suffered are naming the ernment is there? Whether there is Con- tyrant and the tyrants are saying that those gress Government or Bahuja Samaj Partv's who are giving a hearing to the sufferers are Government? wrong. If all this is true, I would like to ask, why did the entire administration remained Similarly. I want to quote the incident silent despite the information that something that took place in Etawah constituency in may happen on 21 st or 22nd? Did we or the Uttar Pradesh from where 1he Chief Minister Congress or the B.S.P. asked District hails. There a Harijan woman was gang administration to remain silent and let the raped and then murdered, many people things go in their own way? Who is respon- went there and saw it. Dozens of Harijan sible for all this? Is Congress responsible for villages were vacated there. Similarly I want all this? Is there a Congress rule there? to tell about Ajamgarh from where the Chair- (Interruptions) Besides some particular man of SC/ST Commission hails. This sections were involved in this dispute. Then commission has been constituted by the why the P.A.C personnel belonging to Government. A relative of the Chairman of particular section were deputed there? Why this Commission was killed at the behest of. 461 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) ST in the Country 462 Contd. Atrocities on·SC
the Councillor of that place for not passing here private part. A case has been regis- fake bills. FIR has ben lodged, Chairman is tered. For one Sita, the legandany city of himseH a witness, but he too is not getting Lanks built with gold was reduced to ashes, justice though he had appealed everywhere. another Sita finds a respectable place in Prime Minister's house and yet another Sita I want to draw the attention of the han. was disgraced in such a manner. Alas she Home Minister towards an incident which is has not hailed from a Harijan family. I want to related to him. The Central Jail, Naini of say something about Prime Minister's con- Allahabad has branch in Bhurma Mirzapur. stituency, Fatehpur.ln Fatehpuron 5th May In that Jail on 16th May Prabhawati 16 year in Kalyanpur Thana a harijan women Smt. old daughter of Ramkhilwan, a tribal of a Indrani was shot dead since she refused to neighbouring village, was gang raped by do 'Begar.' On 6th May in Gadia Majra, police personnel of BhurmaJaii in broad day Unnao, Shrimati Sumitra was shot, Ram light in her own house. After my great efforts Pyare and Suresh are still lying severely a case was registered in Chopan Police injured in Fetehpur hospital. On 16th May station. But the culprits are getting political Somvati incident took place in Oaryapur. protection and they are not being arrested. Prime Minister had gone there and he had Who is providing them protection? stated that culprits would be dealt with severely. He got himself photographed with AN HON. MEMBER: Congress. the child and had said the Government would protect this child. The child died for want of SHRI R.N. RAKESH: Is Congress medicine. The Prime Minister did not even Government in power there? By mistake you go to see him. In Shekh Alipur, which is 13 are sitting there. Give resignation and go kms from Fetehpur district, the feudal lord away. I want to say something about were dragging the daughtier of Maya Devi. Allahabad, the place I come from. The Min- She cried and ran out to protect her daught- ister sitting on the bench there also comes ier. She was shot dead and her dead body from Allahabad ... remained lying there for two days. Later on police remitted the body. F.I.R. was not MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Han. Mem- lodged. The Memberof Parliament who has ber, you have spoken for ten minutes. I have been elected from that constituency is hold- a list of ten members. You please finish ing a big position. People still come to greet quickly. him. Under Malwa Police Station the feudal lord Thakur Nirpat Singh was dragging the SHRI R.N. RAKESH: Mr. Deputy daughter of Harijan Palturam. He was an Speaker, Sir, I will finish within five minutes. active worker of Janta Dal in the last election In Allahabad near the jail, the police shot and presently he is General Secretary of the, Manni Pasu after bringing him out of his Party in the district. Paltu Ram the father ran house in the night. I questioned the police, to protect his daughter, his legs were broken ghereoed the jail administration and then and thrown. No case was registered. Re- they informed that information has been cently a similar incident has taken place in received from the Prime Minister House and Shakvapur. In Chakki village under Malwa those people whose name appears in the list police station a harijan family drew water have to be encountered. Hue and cry was from Government hand pump, over this a made in U.P. legislative Assembly and U.P. women was shot. Her name is Kanchana. Government got C. B.I. enquiry conducted. She has been admitted to Fatehpur hospital. Efforts· are being made to suppress the Her husband Dutare was also shot and he matter. I want to inform that in the Mela too is admitted to the hospital. His son Suresh Tehsil in Allahabad under Atkharia Thana, died last night. I want to say that these which falls in the constituency of the Prime incidents speak themselves. It appears that Minister, a Harijan women named Sita was nothing is going to be achieved by worship- amhanled by feudals and stick was put into ping Dr. Ambedkar. The man who framed 463 Disc. Und9f Rul9 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 ST in the Country 464 Contd. Atrociti9s on SC
[Sh. R.N. Rakesh] wards them, since we talk of representing and protecting them. The incident that took the constitution, his children are being killed place in Agra is not a sudden development. by the Government. Dr. Ambedkar's name is This short of happenings keep on taking being misused. The manner is which the place in this region and whenever such an cooks of Maharajas used to carry the um- incident takes place a voice is heard in brellas over their heads, similar things are Parliament or the legislative assemblies and being done and they want to project their we claim that we want to raise their voice. own name. You cannot become a messiah Yesterday, hon. V.P. Singh said in Rajya by installing a statue of Dr. Ambedkar. In Sabha that he would feel happy if the people Faridpur village under Sikandrabad pplice living below poverty line get representation station in District Bulandshahar, the statue in the Parliament. It is indeed a good idea of Dr. Ambedkar was demolished. Those and Congress too have expressed their will- people who tortured Jatavas in Agra, demol- ingness to· put these feelings into practice ished the statue and took it away. whereas and to create proper atmosphere for it. The the pedestal still exists there. Dr. Ambedkar entire nation stands united on the issue th~t was a nationalist and the way things are adequate opportunity should be provided for happening in his name is very unfortunate. the upliftment of the people belonging to SCI The statue of Dr. Ambedkar is being dese- ST community. crated. In Allahabad, near Shastriji Niketan there is a big house where a five feet long SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA whip lash made of leather and a yard long (Jhabua): Make Shri Paswan the Prime shoe are there, with which Harijans and Minister. Girijan were' thrashed on refusing 'Begar'. The house belongs to the Prime Minister and AN HON. MEMBER: Why Shri Jagjivan is known as Manda House. You know the Ram was not made the Prime Minister. Prime Minister from outer appearance, whereas I know him through and through. SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: Poli- The people who were betrayed in the last tics should not be brought into it. elections and those who lost their way are trying to compose themselves. This Govern- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you wantto ment has become totally inactive. this type of discussion. I have no objection (Interruptions) SHRI SATYNARA Y AN JATIY A (Uliain): Hon. Deputy Speaker, Sir. whenever an [Eng/ish] incident takes place the attention of the entire nation is drawn towards it and all of us MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will pass start thinking as to why such things happen strictures against you. Please maintain si- at all. Such incidents have been taking place lence. from time to time and have been drawing the attention of the country. This continues to [ Translation] happen on Scheduled Castes and Sched- uled Tribes and people belonging to weaker ·SHRI SATYNARAYAN JATIYA: Hon. sections. This should not be viewed politi- Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is a procedure for cally. If we look at it in this manner and electing a Prime Minister and there is no indulge in allegations and counter allega- problem with if. But it we keep on saying all tion, no solution to the problem ~an be found these things merely as a practice that will although it may serve as an instrument of yield no result. If we are serious about their achieving our personal' interest. But if we welfare and their upriftment, it requires de- make SC/ST or the weaker sections a termination. We have accorded equal statuI medium of fulfilling our political ends, it would to all in our constitution. It consists of a be an act of injustice and exploitation to- chapter on fundamental rights also wherein 465 Di.e. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) ST in th. Country 466 Contd. Atrocities on SO
It has been enshrined that we are going to ments. Because of this all these disparities give them the right of equal status. It has prevail. Attempts are being made to instigate been clearly written in Article 14 that every- infighting among the people, yet we talk of body should be equal before law. In article national unity. Taking a cue from 15 it has been said that discrimination on the "VASUOHAIV KUTUMBKAM" we talk of the basis of creed, religion, caste, sex or place of universal brotherhood and we profess that birth will be prohibited and in article 16 it has we shall unite the whole world. I am not ben stated that everyone will be provided willing to accept it that we shall ever be able equal opportunity. But despite reser.vation, to fulfil such a tall promise because we did the people get any benefit? On the face cannot even unite two brothers living to- of It reservation might have served the pur- gether. Keeping in view the situation prevail- pose, but it is improper to befool people by ing in Our society talking of a united world is not implementing it properly. H you really nothing but merely a dream or a vaulting want to give something it should have been ambition. We should eriously ponder over given to them in practical terms. The statis- what we are doing in our house, in our tics as on 1st January, 1989 reveal that only neighbourhood, in our town and in our coun- 8.51 per cent Group A posts have been filled try. We should keep in mind the circum- by scheduled caste and 2.24 per cent by stances prevailing around us. We try to get scheduled tribes, though we say that we will the votes in the name of the reservation, we give them 27 per cent and 40 per cent posts approach each and every jhuggi and slum respectively. There number is only 11.65 area to seek votes. At that time we call the per cent in Group "8", 14.85 per cent in voters as our brothers and as our godfather, Group C and in Group "0" also, in which no but as soon as we are elected we forget one wishes to serve and where one has to those voters and care littls for their comforts serve as an attendant or a cleaner. There and facilities. That is why even today there seems to be no determination to fill the are slums and jhuggies in our country. The quota. It is different matter to say a thing but problems of Scheduled Castes still exist in in order to do something there should be our country·. Social and economic disparities determination and a time bound programme. are also prevailing in the country because It has been said in our constitution that we find ourselves incapable to make any untouchability should be abolished. It was special provisions for them. Why could we included in our constitution way back but not do anything in the past forty years? what is being done in practice? In the end it Although by having a large number of Five has been written that untouchability is being Star Hotels in our country we claim that we abolished and it's practice in any manner is have made much progress but side by side prohibited totally. It will be a crime to imple- these hotels there are large number of jhug- ment anything on the basis of untouchability gies where no civic amenities exist. Who will and will be punishable under rules. All these come forward to bridge this gap of inequali- incidents show prevalence of discrimination ties? These inequalities cannot be removed and a sense of ruler and the ruled. When a by merely talking and delivering speeches. oppressed person raises his voice against We shall have to work tor alround upliftment atrocities and people struggle fortheir rights, of these down trodden people. We shall it leads to social struggle. Whenever atroci- have to bu ild a society free from exploitation: ties are committed people lose self control. If we want order in the society to prevail every "Shoshan mukt samaj rachna ka, section of society will have to remain within Pratibandh hamein swikar nahin. limits and he have in a dignified way. It Uska jina bhi kya jina, applies uniformly to the incidents in Agra or Jisko manav adhikar nahin. Belchi or in any other part of the country. This Nyay, swatantrata, samta, bandhuta, reflects only the difference between our Sabko samanta ka adhikar. profession and practice. We do not reveal Isse cum mein samjhauta kalsa, our mind and we never fulfil our commit- Swarga Moksha se bhl inkaar." 467 Disc. Under Rule 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 5 T in the Country 468 Contd. Atrocities on SC
[Sh. Satynarayan Jatiya] ready to bring a change in the present set- up. It will not serve any purpose to say that Only seeing dream for tall these things is not such incidents never took place during the sufficient, rather we shall have to uplift them Congress regime. During their regime too tothe highest level in reality. The incidents of such incidents took palce frequently but I will such atrocities will continue to shake the not blame the Congress regime for that. If society forever until we are dedicated com- you look into the history (Interruptions) ... You pletely to their upliftment. The whole House, will come across many incidents similar to therefore, is seriously considering this issue that of Agra and we should feel ashamed of today so that the incident like the one that all those incidents. I represent Rewa Parlia- occurred in Agra might not be repeated and mentary Constituency. In Kachur village situ- no case of atrocity and injustice on the Har- ated near district Rewa 5 harijans were ijans and Scheduled Tribes should occur brutally murdered some years ago during again in the country. For that we shall have the Congress regime. But even for that I do to act with a firm determination. not want to blame the Congress. I never said that due 10 the policies of the Congress such "Buland wadon ki basti ko lekar kya incidents took palee. I just want to point out karenge, that many incidents like that of Agra have Hamen hamri jamin de do, Ham aas- taken place in our country. Two years ago, in man lekar kya karenge. Bastar district, the Schedu~ed Tribe girls were raped. I, although a blind person visited Thanks. those villages in the rainy season by crossing the bridge which was submerged into SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI water upto (Rewa): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir a discussion on the atrocities on Harijans and the 15.00 hrs. Scheduled Tirbes is going in the House, today ... (Interruptions) waist level. I was greatly shocked to know the intensity of the crime committed MR. DEPUlY SPEAKER: .Please take there. Which party was in power then? I your seat. You will also be given time to would like to know as to who was in power speak. when the incidents ot Sadhupur in UP and of Deoli took place. All the members of a har- SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: ijan family in Durg district of Madhya Pradesh Such incidents undoubtedly are agreat blas- were killed. Thethen Chief Ministerof Madhya phemy on our society and country but we Pradesh belonged to that area where atroci- should find out a concrete solution to these ties were committed. We should go into the while considering these problems. We should root causes of such incidents. We should go into the root causes of such incidents. remember that when we adopted our own The incident of Agra has brought a bad name Constitution after Independence. we had to the whole country and we should feel taken a pledge for removing untouchability ashamed of that. We must have introspec- and for bringing social equality. I would like tion as to why this incident took place after to ask as to what has been done for removing all. If we try to take political benefit out of it untouchability even after adoption 01 the and if political parties try to blame each other Constitution 40 years ago. 1he division 01 for the same, it will clearly mean that we have society into four castes is the main cause nothing to do in reality for those WhO have behind all this. Such incidents would con- been the victims of the atrocities and the tinue to occur untiU we abolish completely killings and whose mothers and daughters the four-castes system that determines the were maltreated. We shall have to remove status of a man on the basis of his birth. What the root causes of these problems if we are efforts in the last forty years have been made reaUy sympathetic towards them and are to bui\d an ln1rastructure in which an persons 469 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19, 1912 (SAKA) ST in the Country 470 Contd. Atrocities on 'sc are treated equal irrespecth/e of their caste meeting, it is not a favour. and creed? Have we forgotten the Congress rule during which just two years ago harijans KUMARI MAYAWATI: What can be were shot dead in Panda Tarai in Bilaspur done by a D.M. and S.P. if the Prime Minister because they tired to enter a temple? No is involved in it? (Interruptions) culf!)rit was punished for that. The harijans were attacked likewise while they wanted to SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: I enter Nathdwara temple. We are very much would like to say that such incidents cannot pained to see all these things. All such inci- be checked only be the Government's action dents happening around us are very shame- of punishing of making arrests because this ful for tall of us. Recently, on the 16th July at is a deep-rooted problem. Such incidents Khamaharpul of Rewa district two harijan will not come to an end unless we abolish women were burnt alive. Who cares forthat? caste system. All of us should seriously You have visited Agra because it is near consider it and action should be taken to Delhi but none of the leaders either from the remove casteism for ever. With these words Congress or from any other party took the I thank you. trouble to visit that remote place because it is very difficult to reach that place. MR. SPEAKER: We must take up Pri- vate Members' BUSiness at 3.30 p.m. and KUMAR I MAYAWATI: How do you say there is a long list of the Members with me. that no one had gone there? Have you any proof for that? (Interruptions) SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA: It may please be carried on to the next week as SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: A many Members have to speak on it. (Inter- sixty year old woman had died and her ruptions) daughter-in-law is struggling for life in a small hospital. She gave premature birth to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If it is to be a daughter as the dacoits kicked her in the concluded today itself then time will have to belly. be extended. Without that Private Members . Business cannot be taken up. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shastriji, others also have to speak and have to finish [Eng/ish] it today. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will request SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: the han. Members to be very brief and not to That woman victim of burning, after giving repeat the points which have been made and birth to a boby, is 'lOW lying on death bed in not go to individual incidents b~cause it is not the hospital but no on.e is there to look after possible to find out the truth from the individ· her. There is no doubt that such incidents are ual incidents. Those things have to be de- frequently taking place but we should have cided in a court of law or to be investigated instrospection for that. As I have already into details. While dlSCLJssing these things, stated that all of us should rise above party you can make references to individual inci- politics and collective efforts should be made dents if they are very very important but to abolish caste system and remove the small inddents will not help you. This is my blashphemy of untouchability in our country. request. This is not binding but you will keep Unless we do that. such incidents will con- it in mind. tinue to occur. Mere levelling charges and counter charges will not serve the purpose, [ Translation] Will it be proper to level charges against the Prime Minister, if the D.M. of Agra, despite SHRI RAMJI LAL SUMAN (Firozabad): having the information. did not take any Mr.r Deputy Speaker, Sir, fortunately or un- action? If the D. M. permitted you to hold a fortunately I was present at the spot where 471 Disc. UndlN RuJ. 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 5T In th. Countl)' 472 Contd. Atrocities on SC
[Sh. Ramji Lal Suman] in the Congress and sometimes in the Janata Oal . and now he is making the poor his this painful incident took place on 22nd. I scapegoats. knew that a discussion on it will be held in this august House. We have not yet been able to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have asked free ourselves from the old method of level- him not to make references. He will not do ling charges and counter-charges against that now. each another. We should sit together and find out measures 10 as to how the situation SHRI RAMJI LAL SUMAN: Mr. Deputy can be controlled and recurrence of such Speaker. Sir, Mayawati ji is linking me with incidents can be checked. It is a matter of the Congress, even though I have baen great regret that we are following the same linked with the socialist movement from the old method. The Congress people blame us very beginning. Now, I have to tell her about for it and we blame them for the same. that also. (InterruptiOns) Baseless charges have been levelled here and nothing concrete has been said. If any Sir, I am responsible for whatever I say National Award is to be given for here. The hon. Lady Member has levelled telling .... •• ...... should be conferred on May- many charges against me in this august awati ji (Interruptions) House. It is a fact that people had been killed there and it is also true that 9 persons are still KUMARIMAYAWATI:Onlyyourpeople missing, about whom it has been presumed went there and created all these troubles. that they have been murdered. It is good that The leaders of your party were in connivance the Government has announced compensa- with them. (Interruptions) tion of Rs. , lakh to the kith and kin of the deceased. I would request the Government [Eng/ishl to provide the same amount of compensation to the family at those who are missing MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please let us and presumed dead as given to others. not speak on 'Members'. Let us speak on 'Atrocities'. Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I was there on the 12th of June. I tried to visit all the places, PROF. P. J. KURIEN: If there are atroci- where there was tension and met the local ties on our own Members, what do you do? people. 'I went on fast for 48 hours. then only (Interruptions) the situation came under control. It has also been alleged that some women were raped [Translation J there. This is an august House. It is not proper to voice such allegations here. If MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I didn't let Mayawati can name a single woman" .... anyone interrupt your speech. Now you also ( Interruptions) let him speak and don't interrupt him. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mayawati ji, KUMARI MAYAWATI: Mr Deputy as I have stopped others during your speech, Speaker, Sir, I have a point of order. It is the now I have. to check you also. Please don't tradition of the House that no Member of disturb him. Please listen to him carefully. Parliament can use the word...... He has Your speech was good. used this word. So, it should be expunged from the proceedings. I am a responsible ( Interruptions) Member of my party and I am also the leader of my party in the House. He himself had SHRI RAWI LAl SUMAN: Mr. Deputy been changing the parties. Sometimes he is speaker, Sir, the situation is very clear. The
"Expunged as ordered by the Chair. 473 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) ST in the Country 474 Contd. Atrocities on SC daughter of a Jatav was to be married in the get that girl married. I had gone to my house Panwari village. Before the marriage, the just to take a bath. Meanwhile, the member administration was informed that there can of the Congress Party present there told be some tension. them that it would be against our pride, if only 50 to 100 persons go there. So, the entire Those, who are still downtrodden and crowd of thousands of people present there are exploited and victim ised even after the should join the marriage procession to 40 to 42 years of independence, now do not Panwari and this is the reason behind the want to live the life their ancestor had lived. tension. At Nagla Sohan Lal, the police had They want to lead a life with self-respect. to open fire on the Jatavas to stop them and They want to take out their marriage proces- a boy named Santosh was killed in the firing. sions like other people. They want that they Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would also like to should also have respect and the same right submit that the police had to use force at two to live in the society and they should not be places. One was a Jatav dominated area in considered as second grade citizens. So, on Panwari and the other was Nagla Sohan Lal the one hand, these people wanted to take where there is a shoe factory. In Panwari, the the marriage procession through the permit- police had to use force to control the strong ted route and on the other hand there were crowd of one thousand people gathered the people who thought that it would be a there and in Nagla Sohan Lal, a boy named blow to their pride, if that marriage proces- Santosh of Jatav community was killed. As I sion passes through the prescribed route. have already said that the people were de- The marriage processionists neither be- termined not to let the marriage procession longed to the B.S.P. or the Congress or the pass on the night of 20th, the members of Janata Dal. Those who wanted to stop the Bahujan Samaj Party made a statement that procession represented a feudalistic men- they would hold a rally along with the proces- tality. They had no relation with any caste. sion. For the first time, I have heard of a rally The simple question is that this reactionary on the occasion of a marriage. I don't society does not want to change its mental- know ...... Ity. Chokhe Jatav only wanted to get his daughter married. Now a lot of excuses are ( Int9"Uptions) given that the girl or the boy was major or minor. But I would like to make it clear that MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mayawati ji, the question was not the girl or the boy a of whatever you say after this will not go on major or minor, but the people were deter- record. mined not to let the marriage procession proceed at any cost. This was the onlyprob- SHRI RAMJI LAL SUMAN: Mr. Deputy lem and the reason behind this whole inci- Speaker, Sir, they are deliberately trying to dent. provoke you. Mayawati ji, the time that you have spent in politics...... (lnt9rruptions) On the 22nd, I was in Delhi, When I Please don't try to teach me politics. I was reached Agra on the morning of 22nd, there submitting to you that ...... was tension in the city. I went to Jagdish- pura, the area of Jatavas and appealed to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mayawati ji, the strong crowd of 15 to 20 thousand people for your benefit, I would like to read out the already gathered there·that the history of our following. country reveals that whenever there was tenSion between the Scheduled Castes and [English] Scheduled Tribes on one side and people of higher castes on the other, it were the poor "It is desirable that, as far as practicable, always suffered and so we should try to a member should not be referred to by avoid tension. I told in front of everyone that 'name, but in some other suitable way, only 50 to 100 persons will go to Panwari and e.g., •• '1h. member who has last apo- 475 Disc. Under Rule 193 AUGUST 10, 1990 STin the Country 476 Contd. Atrocities on SC k.n-' "the member was looted, 85 houses were set on fire and r.presenting ...... constituency", "the atrocities were committed in Panchayat member tram ...... ", etc. It unavoidably Khera and thousands of people were hurt. necessary, full name may be used" There was no limit to this caste war. People were caught and beaten up. When the friend Please do not mention her name. of a Jatav boy was caught, he said that he was a muslim. Hewasdisrobedandchecked. ( Interruptions) They let his otherfriends also go taking them as muslims. No amount of condemnation of the atrocities is enough. Sir, I didn't want to ( Trsns/ation 1 make this question a political issue, but since some friends mentioned here that the reigns SHRI RAWI LAL SUMAN: Mr. Deputy of the country have now slipped from the Speaker. Sir. I was narrating the situation hands of the nobie persons into the hands of created there and the retaliation thereafter. It unprincipled ones, Harijans are also past is true that a person each was killed in them, I would like to quote some figures Panwari and Nagla Sohan Lal. hands and here. From 1980 to 1988, there was Con- legs of 74 persons were broken in Akola gress rule and Harijans were killed during Shyam Lal Ki 8agiya consisting of 40 houses that time also. The relevant data is as under:-
Year No. of murders No. of incidents of violence
1980 500 1411
1981 493 1492
1982 514 1427
1983 525 1362
...... (lnterruptions) ......
1984 551 ~468
1985 489 1357
1986 563 1406
1987 495 1503
1988 579 1557
The number of cases of rape in 1980 Government cannot escape responsibHity. was 551 and there is constant increase in it. So we should make efforts to avoid such The number of other atrocities committed in incidents. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through 1980 were 10,4i3. There is constant in- you, l would like to urge may party triends, crease in these atrocities. , would like to particularly, belonging to the Communist submit politely that our Congress friends are Party, the B.S.P. and the B.J.P. and the responsible for whatever happened during members of all the other parties that they the Congress regime. Today, if any down- should consider this issue. I had submitted trodden person is insulted or killed. the my report to the pa' ". p' !?:,:.ident and told him 477 Disc. Under Rule 193 SRAVANA 19.1912 (SAKA) STin the Country 478 Contd. Atrocities on SC that a delegation of the party or representa- national problems. I used to be an activist of tive should be sent from Delhi. But it is the socialist movement and ! am proud of regrettable that even after all these things, that. But now-a-days politics of ideology has no one went there. Whosoever goes there, vanished. People are more eager to enter he'gives his report. 10 persons of Janta Oal Parliament and the State Assemblies some- submitted their reports. In these last seven- how or the other. They know how to get the eight months, Shri Vishwanath P rat ap Singh booths captured, how to get the people killed has done some good work for providing and how to form equations on caste lines. facilities to the weaker sections. But we are Present day politics has been reduced to the persons who convey his message to the such a position, Today, there is not a single people. So I would like to tell my party person who would dedicate himself to the members that their efforts proved futile. There battle against exploitation and call upon the could be two types of efforts to ease tension. people to fight re-actionary and feudalistic The first effort should have been on the part forces, It is necessary to revive that spirit. of the administration and the second effort Now-a-days, the practice of holding semi- should have been made by the political parties nars in party circles, arranging training camps by holding a meeting and discussing as to has since been stopped. As long as dedi-' how the tension can be e.ased. We should go cated workers, who could remove the social on fast and assure the people that they maladies spreading in the society, do not should not be afraid. If any person tries to kill emerge, the ill-feelings spreading all over an innocent person, we will come to his the country cannot be checked and we will rescue by staking our lives. But it was not not be able to tackle national problems. done there and only the process of allega- (Interruptions) ..... tions and counter allegations continued. The effective role which should have been played KUMARI MAYAWATI: You have also there by the different political parties, was heard his views. But I am saying that the not played. Hon. Prime Minister and the hon. Minister of Home Affairs did not visit Agra ..... (/nterrup- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, ! would like to lions} .... submit that no amount of condemnation of this incident will be enough. But I would also [English] like to submit that we didn't do our duty except levelling charges against each other, SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Cooch we didn't do anything. The hon. Prime Min- Behar): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the discus- iSler has announced a compensation of Rs. sion is about the atrocities on Scheduled 10 lakhs. I met him today and told him that Castes and Scheduled Tribes. I am in this this help is almost negligible. Secondly, r House for a long time. So far as r can would like to submit that thousands of the remember, we are discussing this particular poor persons in Agra are in great distress as issue the problem of atrocities on Scheduled curfew has been imposed on the city and Castes and Scheduled Tribes, harijans or - they are unable to carryon their vocation. I Girijans - in every Session and sometimes have personal knowledge about it. twice also. The problem of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in a socio-economic The Government tried to provide maxi- problem, For the last 42 years, we have tried mum assistance, but it is of no use as long as to solve this problem. Sometimes, with this the people do not repose faith in each other problem, the problem of social untouchabil- and are not prepared to go there. The Gov- ity is also discussed. But, never we go deep ernment should take measures to instill into it. If we go through the Report of the confidence in the people and provide maxi- Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes mum possible assistance. Mr. Deputy Commission- 1st to 8th-we will tind that the Speaker, Sir,! would also like to submit here main reason for the atrocities is the land that we should think seriously about the reforms. We never tried to solve this problem 479 CPMBR Report AUGUST 10, 1990 Bills Introduced 480
[Sh. Amar Roypradhan1 [English] of land reforms. Our country lies on the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question feudal system of the capitalist economy. We is. stand on the capitalist economy. Forthe last· 42 years, it was mainly the Congress, at the "That this House do agree with the healm of power in India. It is true of course Seventh Report of the Committee on that They developed the capitalist economy Private members' Bills and Resolutions in this country, but today they are speaking presented to the House on the 9th so may things about the Scheduled Castes August, 1990." and Scheduled Tribes. The motion was adopted Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Shrt Ramji Lal Suman spoke on this, by quoting the atroci· 15.31 hrs. ties committed on Harijans and Girijans. It is going worse day by day. We are responsible CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL" for it. It is our social structure; it is our economy, that is responsible for all these [English] things. What had happened in Agra? We all condemn that incident. It is a shameful inci- (Insertion of new articles 23A, 238 and dent. But, at the same time, we should not 23C) forget that such incidents happen not only in Agra and UP alone. SHRIMATI 8ASAVA RAJESWARI (Bellary): I beg to move for leave to introduce MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Amar a Bill further to amend the Constitution of Roypradhan, you can continue your speech India. on the next occasiorr.- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question Now, we can take up the Private Mem- is: bers' Business. Shri Rameshwar Prasad. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India." 15.30 hrs. The motion was adopted COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS' BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI: introduce the Bill. Seventh Report
[ Translation] 15.31 hrs. SHAI RAMESHWAR PRASAD (.Arrah):' I bog to move. CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL;' (Amendment of Tenth Schedule) "ihat this House do agree with the S~venth Report of the committee on (English] Private Members' Bills and Resolutions presented to the House on the 9th SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI August, 1990. (8ellary): I beg to move for loave to introd uee
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MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question DOCTORS AND ENGINEERS (BANNING Is: OF MIGRATION TO FOREIGN COUN- TRIES) BILL" "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of [Eng/ish] India." SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI The motion was adopted. (Bellary): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for baning of migration of SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI: doctors and engineers to foreign countries. introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is:
15.32 hra. ''That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for banning of migration of PROVIDING OF FREE MEDICAL AND doctors and engineers to foreign coun- TECHNICAL EmJCATION BILL· tries."
15.32 HRS. The motion was adopted
[English] SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI: introduce the Bill.
SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI (Bellary): I begto move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide free medical and technical 15.33 hrs. education to all students and for matters connected therewith. CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL"
(Amendment in Articles 341 and 342) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: [ Trans/ation J
"That leave be granted to introduce a SHRI RAM LAL RAHI (Misrikh): I beg to Bill to provide free medical and techni- move for leave to introduce a Bill further to cal education to all students and for amend the Constitution of India. matters connected therewith." [English] The motion was adopted MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI: introduce the Bill. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of In- dia."
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The motion was adopted Bill further to amend the India Penal Code." [Translation] The motion was adopted. SHRI RAM LAL RAHI: I introduce the Bill. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: I introduce the Bill.
15.33112 hrs. 15.34 1/2 hrs. DECLARATION OF ASSETS BY CIVIL SERVANTS BILL- CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL"
[English] (Insertion of new article 488, etc.)
SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishnagiri): {English] I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for 1he declaration and public scru- SHRI K. RAMAlv1URTHY (Krishnagiri): tiny of assets of civil servants. I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: "That leave be granted to itroduce a Bill to provide for the declaration and public "That leave be granted to introduce a scruti ny of assets of civil servants." Bill further to amend the Constitution of India. The motion was adopted The motion was adopted SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: I introduce the Bill. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: I introduce the Bill
15.34 hrs. 15.35 hrs. INDIAN PENA.L CODE (AMENOMENT) BILL" REPRESENTATION OF THE rCOPL[ (AMENDMENT) BILL' (Insertion of new Chapter VB) (Amendment of Section 8, etc.) SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishnagiri): J beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill [English] further to amend the Indian Penal Code.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Th8 question SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMACHAN- is: DRAN (Cannanore): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the "That leave be granted to introduce a Representation of the People Act, 1951. ------_._--- ·Published in the Gazette of India, Extraordinary, Pw1-II, Section 2, dated 10.8.1990. 485 8ills Introduced SRAVANA 19. 1912 (SAKA) Bills Introduced 486
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question (Kopargaon): I beg to move for leave to is: introduce a Bill to provide for a comprehensive crop insurance scheme so as to protect ''That leave be granted to introduce a the farmers from loss of crops in natural and Bill furtherjo ameod the Representation other calamities and for matters connected of the People Act, 1951." therewith.
The motion was adopted MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: SHRI MUlLAPPAllY RAMACHAN- DRAN: I introduce the Bill. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for a comprehensive crop insurance scheme so as to protect the farmers from loss of crops in natural and 15.35 1/2 hrs other calamities and for matters connected therewith." COUNCIL FOR ENVIRONMENT PRO- TECTION Bill- The motion was adopted
[English] SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: introduce the Bill. SHR\ MULLAPP ALLY RAMACHAN- DRAN (Cannanore): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the constitution of a Council at the Centre and in each 15.36112 hrs. State and U nion Territory for the protection of environment and ecology. PUBLIC INTEREST LITIGATION BILL-
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question [English] is: DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN (Chidam- "That leave be granted to introduce a baram): I beg to move for leave to introduce Bill to provide for the constitution of a a Bill to provide for recognition of public Council at the Centre and in each State interest litigations and for matters connected and Union Territory for the protection of therewith. environment and ecology." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question The motion was adopted is:
SHRI MULLAr>P ALLY RAMACHAN- "That leave be granted to introduce a DRAN: I introduce the Bill. Bill to provide for recognition of public interest litigations and for matters connected therewith. "
15.36 hrs. The motion was adopted
CROP INSURANCE BilL*K DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: I introduce the Bill. [English]
SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL
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15.37 hrs. The motion was adopted
SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHED- SHRt BAlASAHEB VtKHE PATll: ULED TRIBES (RECOGNITION OF introduce the Bill. WELFARE ASSOCIATIONS) BilL·
[English] 15.38 hrs. DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN (Chidam- baram): I beg to move for leave to introduce SALARY, ALLOWANCES AND PENSION a Bill to provide for recognition of all Sched- . OF MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT uled Castes and Scheduled Tribes welfare (AMENDMENT) BILL· associations and to provide facilities to them. (Substitution of new section for section 3, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The q(Jestion etc. Is: [Eng/ish] "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for recognition of all Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes welfare associations and to provide facilities to them". SHRI B~LASAHEB VIKHE PATIL The motion was adopted (Kopargaon): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Salary, DR. P. VALLAL PERUMAN: I introduce Allowances and Pension of Members of the Bill. Parliament Act, 1954.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: 15.37 1/2 hrs. "That leave be granted to introduce a OLD AGE PENSION AND REHABILITA- Bill further to amend the Salary, Allow- TION BILL* ances and Pension of Members of Parliament Act, 1954," (Eng/ish] The motion was adopted SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PATIl (Kopargaon): I beg to move for leave to SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: introduce a Bill to provide 10r payment 01 introduce the Bill. pension and provision of other rehabilitation facilities to old persons.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question 15.38 1/2 hrs. is: RIGHT TO REPLY IN THE PRESS BILL* IIThat l~a\7e be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for payment of pension [English] and provision of other rehabilitation facilities to old persons." SHRI V. N. GADGIL (Pune): I bog to
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MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The q~~stion " [English] is: SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS RANA "That leave be granted to introduce a (Surat): I beg to move for leave to introduce Bill to give members of the public the a Bill to prevent the imposition of social right to reply to allegations made against disabilities by a member or members of a them or mis-reporting or mis-represen- community on a member or members of his tation concerning them in the Press." or their own community; to provide for penalties for such an act or acts and for matters The motion was adopted connected therewith.
SHRI V. N. GADGIL: I introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is:
"That leave be granted to introduce a 15.39 hrs. Bill to prevent the imposition of social disabilities by a member or members of ABOLITION OF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT a community on a member of members BILL· of his ortheir own community; to provide for penalties for such an act or acts and [ Translation] for matters connected therewith."
SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI The motion was adopted (Rewa): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS for the abolition of capital punishment in RANA: I introduce the Bill. India.
[English] 15.40 hrs. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: ADVOCATES' WELFARE FUND BILL·
''That leave be granted to introduce a [English1 Bill to provide for the abolition of capital punishment in India." SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS RANA (Surat): I beg to move for leave to introduce The motion was adopted a Bill to provide for the constitution of a welfare fund for payment of retirement bene- [ Translation] fits to advocates and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD SHASTRI: I introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is:
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"That leave be granted to introduce q. beg to move for I~ave to introduce a Bill to Bill to provide for the constitution of a provide for payment of monthly pension and welfare fund for paym'ent of retirement provision of other facilities to the members of benefits to advocates and for matters the families of persons killed in terrorist vio- connected therewith or incidental lence in the country. thereto." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question The motion was adopted is:
SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS "That leave be granted to introduce a RANA: I introduce the Bill Bill to provide for payment of monthly pension and provision of other facilities to the members of the families of persons killed in terrorist violence in the 15.40 112 hrs. country."
The motion was adopted INDIAN PENAL CODE (AMENDMENT) BILL·
(Amendment of section 376) [English) PROF. K. V. THOMAS: I introduce the Bill. SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS RANA (Surat): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Indian Penal Code. 15.41 1/2 hrs.
. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question HIGH COURT AT BOMBAY (ESTABLISH- is: MENT OF A PERMANENT BENCH AT KOHLAPUR) BILL * "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Indian Penal [English] Code." SHRI UDAYSINGHRAO GAIKWAD The motion was adopted (Kolhapur): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide forthe establishment of SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS a permanent Bench of the High Court at RANA: I introduce the Bill. Bombay at Kolhapur.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Ques- tion is: 15.41 hrs. "That leave be granted to introduce a REHABILITATION OF VICTIMS OF Bill to provide for the establishment of a TERRORISM BILL* permanent Bench of the High Court at Bombay at Kolhapur." [English]
PROF. K. V. THOMAS (Ernakulam): t The motion was adopted
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SHRI UDAYSINGHRAO GAIKWAD: I SHRI SATYAGOPAl MISRA: I intro- introduce the Bill. duce the Bill.
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CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· CONSTITUTION (SCHEDULED TRIBES (Omission of Article 370) ORDER AMENDMENT) BILL"
[English] (Amendment of the Schedule)
SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS RANA [English] (Surat): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question SHRI K. S. RAO (Machilipatnam): I beg is: to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) "That leave be granted to introduce a Order, 1950. Bill further to amend the Constitution of India." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: The '!}otion~as adopted "That leave be granted to introduce a SHRI KASHIRAM CHHABILDAS Bill further to amend the Constitution RANA: I introduce the Bill. (Scheduled Tribes)
The motion was adopted
SHRI K. S. RAO: I introduce the Bill. 15.42 1/2 hrs.
CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· 15.43112 hrs. (Substitution of new Schedule for Eighth Schedule) FREEDOM OF RELIGION BILL·
[English] [English] SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA (Tamluk): I beg to meve for leave to introduce a Bill SHRI YADVENDRA DATI (Jaunpur): I further to amend the Constitution of India. beg to move tor leave to introduce a Bill to provide for prohibition on conversion from MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question one religion to another by the use of force or is: inducement or by fraudulent means and for matters incidental thereto. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of In- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question dia." is: *Published in the Gazette of India. Extraordinary. Part-II, Section 2, dated 10.8.1990. 495 Bills Introduclld AUGUST 10, 1990 Bills Introduced 496
"That leave be granted to introduce a Sir, the Bills standing in the name of Shri P. Bill to provide for prohibition on conver- R. Kumaramangalam at Serial No. 22 and sion from one religion to another by the Shri Harish Rawat at Serial No. 34 are iden- use of force or inducement or by fraudu- tical. / lent means and tor matters incidental thereto." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The titles may be same, the contents may be different. The motion was adopted Shri Harish Rawat. SHRI YADVENDRA DATI: I introduce the Bill.
SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): I beg 15.44 hr•• to to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Architects Act, 1972. CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question (Amendment of Article 29, etc.) is:
[English] "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Architects Act, SHRI SUDHIR GIRl (Contai): I beg to 1972." move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India. The motion was adopted
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER:Thequestion SHRI HARISH RAWAT: I introduce the is: Bill.
"That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India," 15.45 hrs
The motion was adopted CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL·
SHRI SUDHIRGIRI: I introduce the Bilr. Amendment of Article 335)
[English)
, 5.44 112 hrs. SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to ARCHITECTS (AMENDMENT) BILL· amend the Constitution of India.
(Amendment of Section 25) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Question is: [English] "That leave be granted to introduce a MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Harish Bill further to amend the Constitution of Rawat. India"
SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishnagiri): The motion was adopted
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SHRI HARISH RAWAT: I introduce the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question Bill. is:
"That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Forest (Con- servation) Act, 1980." 15.~5 1/2 hrs.
PROVISION OF EMPLOYMENT BILL* The motion was adopted
[English] PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR: I introduce the Bill. PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR (Chimur): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for employment to every adult unemployed person or for payment of unemployment allowance in lieu thereof. 15.46 112 hrs.
MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHED- is: ULED TRIBES ORDERS (AMENDMENT) BILL. * ''That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for employment at every adult unemployed person or for pay- [English] ment of unemployment allowance in lieu thereof. n PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR (Chimur): I beg to move for leave to intro- The motion was adopted duce a Bill further to amend the Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Order, 1950, and the PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR: I in- Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) Order, 1950, troduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is:
"That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution 15.46 hrs. (Scheduled Castes) Order, 1950, and the Constitution (Scheduled Tribes) FOREST (CONSERVATION) AMEND- Order, 1950." MENT BILL*
(Amendment of Section 2, etc.) The motion was adopted
[English] PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR: I introduce the Bill. PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR (Chimur): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Forest (Conservation) Act, 1980.
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15.47 hr •. 15.48 hr•.
CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL· ESSENTIAL SERVICES MAINTENANCE (REPEAL) Bill- (Insertion of New Article 31) [English] [English] SHRI CHinA BASU (Barasat): I beg to PROF. MAHADEO SHIVANKAR move for leave to introduce a Bill to repeal (Chimur): I beg to move for leave to intro- the Essential Services Maintenance Act, duce a Bill further to amend the Constitution 1981. of India. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: is: ''That leave the granted to introduce a ''That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to repeal the Essentlal Services Bill further to amend the Constitution of In- maintenance Act, 1981." dia.- The motion was adopted The motion was adopted SHRI CHITTA BASU: I introduce the PROF. MAHADEO SHIWANKAR: I in- Bill. troduce the Bill.
[English] 15.47 1/2 hrs. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Prakash CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL * Koko Brahmbhatt is absent.
(Amendment of Article 311) Shri Tej Narain Singh, you were absent when we had called out your name to intro- [English] duce the Bill. Are you now interested in asking for leave to introduce the Bill? SHRI CHITTA BASU (Barasat): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to 15.481/2 hrs. amend the Constitution of India. FARMERS AND AGRICUL rURAL MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question WORKERS BENEFIT FUND BILL * is: [Eng/ishl "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH (Buxar): \ India." beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to provide for the constitution of a fund for the The motion was adopted benefit of the farmers and agricultural workers. SHRI CHinA BASU: I introduce the Bilt. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thequestion is:
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"That leave be granted to introduce a beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill Bill to provide for the constitution of a further to amend the Constitution of India. fund for the benefit of the farmers and agricultural workers." MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: The motion was adopted "That leave be granted to introduce a SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: I intro- Bill further to amend the Constitution of duce the Bill. India."
The motion was adopted
[English] SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I introduce the Bill. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Lodha are you also interested in asking for leave 10 introduce the Bill now? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, we take SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: Yes, Sir. up the Bills for consideration and passing.
15.49 hrs. Lasttime wewere considering the Youlh Bill. Shri Tej Narain singh was on his legs. If CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL" you remember, you were speaking some time back. Do you have .::.nything more to (Amendment of Article 48, etc.) say?
SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India. 15.50 hrs.
MR. OEPUTY SPEAKER: The question YOUTH BILL is: by Shri Hannan Mollah-Contd. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of [English] India."
The motion was adopted MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, further consideration of the following motion moved SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA: I introduce by Shr; Hannan Mollah on the 26th April, the Bill. 1990, namely:-
, 5.49 112 hrs. "That the Bill to provide for a comprehensive policy for the development of CONSTITUTION- (AMENDMENT)- BILL" the youth in the country, be taken into (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) consideration. "
[English] Shri Tej Narayan Singh to continue his SHRI GUMAN MAL LODHA (Pali): I speech. He has already taken six minutes.
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[ Trans/ation} month of 'Chaitra' and returning to Bihar during the month of 'Agrahayan' are not SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH (Buxar): required to do so. But the Government did Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. the problem of not take any measures in this regard. unemployment is a very important problem in our country. As per Government records, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we criti- at present. there are about 4 crore unem- cise the Congress Party, the elderly people ployed people In the country which include of the party get annoyed as to why we should M.A. and B.A. pass persons, doctors and criticise them. According to the law, if a 12 engineers. This unemployment problem is year old child commits an offence, it is not not a problem of today. A large section of punishable. If a person aged more than 12 people are of the view that this problem has years commits an offence, the law says that been created by the 8 month old Govern- the offence is punishable. They criticise a ment. But the Government figures show that Government which is only 8 month old, but since 1952 even though some schemes forget!o criticise a 42 year old Government. were launched to remove the unemploy- Had this problem been solved by the Gov- ment problem, yet none of the schemes was ernmentwhich ruled the countryfor42 years, successful. Now, it is very essential to have the present situation would not have arisen. this right which we would put to test and see Similarly, had the various problems facing as to how far the problem of unemployment the country now been solved earlier the could be solved be solved after people get country would not have faced this situation this right. Right to employment has not so far now. As such, I would like to request my been included in the Costitution. The pres- brethren from the Congress Party not to get ent Government has made an announce- annoyed at these remarks, but to go through ment that it would amend the Constitution their past records as to what they have done. after which all the unemployed youth in the Had you people done a good thing, the country would be entitled to file a case in a present situation is the country would not court of law and secure jobs in case Govern- have arisen. Only your figures show that ment fails to provide jobs to them. If such a there are about 4 crores unemployed people provision is made in the Constitution or a in the country. new clause is added to Article 16, the problem being faced by the unemployed youth AN HON. MEMBER: No. no we are not could be solved. If this is not done now and at all annoyed. if we remain careless about the youth, a day may come when we would be constrained to SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: You look into their complaints when they will people not only get annoyed but also start come on the roads and made a demand for quarelling. That is why I say that it is not the their rights just as we are, now-a-days dis- Janata Oal which is only 8 month old, which cussing about the atrocities being commit- committed this offence, but it is the Congress ted on the Harijans. It is, therefore, neces- Party which should be squarely blamed for sary that the Government should take suit- this which held the reigns of administration able steps to provide jobs to youth in very for 42 years but did not solve the problems. field. Now-a-days unemployed youth from This situation has been created by you and Bihar numbering about 51akhs are staying in . we are being put to blame unnecessarily. It Delhi. They are doing petty jobs in factories does not matter whether he is your son or our and private shops to earn their livelihood. son but after 'doing his B.A. or M.A. he These youths are doing the job of cutting the· becomes a burden on the head ofthefamily. crops not only in Delhi but also in Punjab, All the avenues of employment are closed Haryana. If irrigation facilities could be pro- for him. You have stopped recruitment since vided in our State, Bihar, the unemployed 1975. Now the Janata Oal should lift the ban people, who are going to Punjab and Har- on recruitment. I am hopeful that the Janata yana, during the harvesting season in the Oal Government will take suitable measures 505 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 1'9, 1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 506
to provide jobs to the unemployed youth. If And before we plan, we must not forget that this Government does not take measures to inorderto have afool-proofplanning, certain provide jobs, it will face the same conse· thing~ are essential. , quences which its predecessor faced. I would, ~erefore, like to make an appeal to all the Fortunately, our Minister of State for hon. Members to take steps to provide jobs Planning happens to be present here, and to unemployed youth. One of our hon. friends the Minister for Human Resource Develop- said that the situation will go from bad to ment and above all the Ministerfor Law Law worse. In this connection, I would like to say and Justice is also gracing the occasion. that it is the time only which would decide as Therefore, I would like to submit that what to what will be the situation. At present, your has gone wrong with us all these years of position is very weak. Even though your Independence is that inspite of the fact that party is not in the Government, people from the right to universal education is enshrined the length and breadth of the country criticise in the Directive Principles of the Constitu- it. People also criticise the Janata Oal Gov· tion, the right to work also is in some way or ernment but only this much is being said that the other included in those Directive Prin- the 'prices have gone up and these need to ciples.ltforms an essential part of the United be curtailed. Nobody says that the Congress Nations Charter of Human Rights. It forms Party should be brought back to power. As part of the declaration of the International such your position is not at all sound. LabourOrganization, and it forms, of course, part 01 the National Front and the Janata Dal Finally, I would like to make a request to manifesto. And even if it is not mentioned the Janata Dal Government to add a new there, the need of the hour, the crying need clause to article 16 of the Constitution so that of the hour is that we should rise from our all the unemployed youth of the country slumber, deep slumber; and awaken the could get this right. Here after, whichsoever consciousness of the entire nation and the Government comes to power, if it does not powers that be, the rulers, the Members of work in the interest of the youth and does not Parliament, the elected representatives of provide them jobs, the youth can file a case the people both in the States and at the in a court of law and get their due rights. Centre, that we have to think very deeply about bringing about a socio-economic revo- [English) lution in the country. Revolution does not necessarily mean shedding blood in the SHRI MANDHATASINGH (Lucknow): I streets; revolution does not necessarily mean am really thankful to the mover of this Bill resorting to violence. revolution means radi- which has drawn the attention of this august cal change, but what to speak of radical House and the nation towards a very burning change, the sorriest 9art of the story is that problem. What my friend has just now said is we have forgotten all about socio-economic this: he was talking about the 42·year rule change and revolution, and what is emerg- and the 8 month rule. In that connection, I ing on the horizon is the fundamentalist would not blame anybody. forces, the feudal forces and the casteist elements. I wQuld like simply to unde-rline the fact that the entire problem revolves round the 16.00 hrs. hard reality, that after Independence, we have not yet been able to chalk out a clear- The feudal forces, the casteists ele- cut socia-economic policy whiCh can absorb ments are very much seen around the hori- the manpower potential of this country. Call zon. They seem to engulf the entire nation them youth, call them students, call them and all talk about emotional and national educated unemployed or call them unedu- integration has gone into the background. cated unemployed the entire gamut covers Everybody has forgotten it. You must be the socio-economic planning of the country. remembering it. Our senior-most leader, Prof. 507 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 508
[Sh. Mandhata Singh] base. I repeat what I said in the Consultative Committee meeting on planning, the base. I Ranga is here. He remembers those good am talking about the economic shape of old days when, during the freedom struggle, things. The base remains feudal or at best we were tring for national integration. Then you can call it, semi-feudal. This base is after independence the word 'emotionar was feudal, and I wish again to repeat that at best added to it. So, nobody talks about now it is semi-feudal because of Zamindari Abo- emotional and national integration. Every- lition Act and what not the credit for which body is talking about caste domination, goes to veterans like Prof. Ranga and others communal domination, whetherwe consider and Kisan Sabha and the trade unionists the situation in Punjab or we talk about the who have done this because of those minor Kashmir issue. Much heat was generated enactments. only this mornjng while discussing the Ka- shmir affairs, making a mention of the Ka- India is a rural country. The base of our shmir Affairs. More heat might be generated economy is feudal, still remains feudal or when we come up with the repeal of the semifeudal, and the structure during the last Ordinance and its replacement by the nec- four decades that has come up, that has essary legislation empowering the use of been built consciously is capitalist. I have armed forces in Kashmir. Daily we talk about read the history of Capitalism. Kashmir; daily we talk about shoot out and what not. But you can call them name. Call Many of our senior friends must have the youths any name you please; call them done that. Capitalism was consider$d to be Pakistani agents in Kashmir; go on calling a progressive force which, with its rise in them terrorists in Punjab or in Assam, ULFA Europe abolished the remnants of feudal- and all that; call the Bodo agitationists or the ism. French Revolution ushered in the era of rest of it; call them naxalites in Tamilnadu liberty, equality and fraternity, that is, parlia- and South Bihar and other parts of the coun- mentary democracy. And, after the French try. But the hard fact remains, I wish to Revolution the rise of capitalism is visible on underline this fact, that unless and until this the scene of Europe with all vestiges and problem of youths is tackled properry and remnants of feudalism wiped down. But here humanly and constitutionally, immediately, most unfortunately both the things continue these things are bound to go beyond control. right up to this day in 1990. When we are Go on calling them name. You can confer discussing this problem the base is feudal, any title on them. You can deploy any num- the structure is capitalist and shall I add with ber of armed forces anywhere, in any part of your permission the super-structure, the the country. But things are not going to die dome over it, the Gumbhaj is neo-colonial- down because we have failed to notice the ism which is the new phrase coined for root cause of the problem. What is the root imperialism now. Wetalk about multi-nation- cause? The root cause is this. Theotherday. als and all that; and this economic imperial- I said something about it in the Consultative ism or imperialism has changed its colour. It Committee meeting. Our Minister of Plan- does not necessitate the physical presence ning was there. I wish to share it with the of the white man. What they used to call the whole House, although not much attendance white man's'burden has taken a new shape. is visible. Everybody wants to play to the It has taken the shape of economic imperial- galleries and galleries are empty atthis hour. ism and it concretises itself changing its So, nobody cares to attend the House when shape, in the form of World Bank (oans, and such momentous th ings are being discussed. multinational cooperatives and what not. But, anyway, I wish to go on record. I am thankful to the members who are giving me So, my formulation is, my humble sub- a patient hearing. We must understand now mission is that the base is feudal, the struc- that it is on the wrong structure that we have ture is imperialist and the super-structure, built up, all these 42 years or 43 years, the the dome constructed over it as the dome 509 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 510 here not this one here it is neo-colonialism Commissions. 'What happened to that Mu· and you can call it economic imperialism daliar Commission? I read through it. Many sitting over our head. That dictates our eco- years ago, the Mudaliar Commission has set nomic policies and even the education poli- only three objectives for education. I would cies.1 am afraid, nobody's feelings should be like to narrate them. It might enlighten the hurt that most of our labour and education hon. Members of this House. Many decades policies so far -have been formulated at the ago, Mudaliar Commission wrote that edu- dictates of the World Bank and the IMF, cation has only three aims in view. They are: because they say, "We give you this money only with the conditions, strings attached,- 1. Creation, production of an inte- as the idiom goes, "with the strings attached grated and dynamic personality. to it". Can we say that the personality of our So, this is a very shocking state of students or youth that we produce are inte- affairs and the nation is going to pieces. grated and dynamic? Youth is getting desperate and in sheer desperation they are doing some things. I 2. Creation, of healthy citizenship have been a teacher and I represent the in the country. teaching fraternity of the country also; therefore added to it are the working classes and 3. Our education system should the common man. But as a teacher I have enable young men to have a been a student of psychology and we cal! it, wage earning capacity. we say, when We analyse the personality of a child. or a young man we are used to Today we are talking about so many saying that a frustrated youth I have been schemes and yojanas, but none of the three saying this in national seminars and for and objectives is anywhere in sight. Creation of a it wouid not be improper to repeat it is a dynamic and integrated personality what positive dangerto society. A frustrated youth dynamic and integrated? I may say that is a oositive danger to society and frustration every single individual is a split personality. ieadrs to disenchantment. They do not be· What I mean by 'split personality' is this. In Heve in the ieadership, they do not believe in sanskrit my teacher used to teach me I want their faith, the get frustrated, they get disap· to go on record, which will be a tribute to my pointed. they take to wrong channels. If sanskrit teacher. somebody gives them grants they freely use it. If somebody asks them to burn something, Manasyekum, Vachyjekum, Kar· they will gladly do it mamyakum ·Mahatmanah.
Only one or two days ago we heard of What is the definition of "Mahatma"? some burning incident and arson in Calcutta Manasyekum' I have translated it into Eng· also: which is ruled by a Left Front Govern· lish for the convenience of the Reporters. ment. But with the rise in fares or whatever the immeciate caJse, the frustration is the Unity in thought, speech and action. underlying factor. Therefore, this frustration has to be avoided and as a teacher my That is the definition of a Mahatma. conscience is guilt~' because we have not yet been able to formulate a clear cut education ( Translationl policy in spite of the fact that reports of the Mahatma does not mean one wh", wears Education Commissions, the Mudaliar only a loin cloth and lives in a forest. Commission was there, the Radhakrishnan commission was there and so on. I am [English1 speaking about the Commissions and Committees in free India, not of the older The reverse of it is Manasyant, Vacha- 511 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 512
[Sh. Mandhata Singh] Formerly the Central B~dget on education used to be 0.9 per cent, near to 1 per syant Karmanyant, Duratmanams. What is cent, hovering 1 per cent. I must congratu- the definition of a 'dusht? who is a wrong- late our Human Resource Minister and th~ doer? Who is a 'badmash,? Finance Minister for doling out this time to at least two per cent of the Central Budget for [ Translation1 the Human Resource Development Depart- ment. Rs. 98 are given for canal develop- One whothinks something else, speaks ment, cement development and for enabling something else and does somewhat differ- engineers to swallow up the cement also and ent. only Rs. 2 per Rs. 100 are given for the gigantic task of human resource develop- [English] ment. I congratulate the previous Govern- ment for giving the Education Ministry this I cannot say all of us because. anybody great name. But by giving great names only, may move a privilege motion against me. But problems will not get resolved. So I charge treat this as a self-confession. At least I carl that we have neglected education both at the say for myself that I have a split personality. Centre and in the States. I had been a Most of us have a split personality. The aim Memberofthe UP Legislative Council forthe of education is the creation of a dynamic and last 16 years. Three years were still to go for integrated personality. What healthy citizen- the present term to be over. But I was picked ship we have when casteism is on the hori- up for this august Assembly. There I had zon and when communalism is on the hori- passed the budgets either by show of hands zon! Therefore, we have to see the entire or by saying 'Ayes'. UP which is supposed to problem in its national perspective. bethe heartland of India and which produces only Prime Ministers of the country and noth- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please con- ing else, there the education budget hovers clude. round 10 to 11 per cent only while the small, tiny State like Kerala in the southern-most lip SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: I want your of our continent, has been spending 35 to 40 indulgence for a while. It seems that not per cent on education alone since the days many Members are interested in the topic. of EMS Government in 1957. That is why, you can find a Keralite even in Kuwait. Yes- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, I have a terday, we had a loud talk of Keraiites in list of Members who wish to speak on this Kuwait. They are there in all parts of the topic. country. They are there even on the high Himalayas, in Kumaon, in Garhwal and other SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: That is my places. On the human resource develop- good fortune and the fortune of the Mover of ment, on the education policy or shall I say the resolution that other Members have also on the policy of national development we got interested in this problem. have to ensure larger allocation forthe cause of youth and students. As a representative of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can take the National Movement of Teachers we have some more time. been fighting for three long decades and crying hoarse, holding rallies 41t the Boat Club, that at least 10 per cent of the budget SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: I was plead- at the Centre be allocated to education. If I ing for a national parspective and there is have my own way, I will give the topmost neglect of education' deliberately used the priority to the human resource development words 'Neglect of education' in our national and not to road building and dam building. scheme of things in the Five Year Plan~ and what not. All the terrorist and separatist activities 513 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 514
are the by-product of this faulty youth and of this House towards the greatest problem education policy in this country. The rise of of this country. While supporting this Bill I will casteism and communalism is also directly express my views before the House in brief linked with this. It is shocking to know that at because all of us know this fact that no least in Northern India schocls and colleges country can make any progress so far as its are named after castes. We have Hindu youth are backward psychologically, physi- College, Muslim college. As if not satisfied cally, economically and socially. Such a with Hindu and Muslim, they have gone in for country always remains backward and India Shia College, Suni College. I represent is a striking example of that. Today our Lucknow. Every year on Maharrum Day we country is in the' grip of various types of have Shia-Suni riots also ...... problems, social, economic, casteism, re!ig- ious and separatism. The main reason of it is MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have a list of that the schemes formulated by our Govern- 10 more members to speak on this Bill. ments for the development of youth are not adequate. Besides, no special constructive SHAI MANDHATA SINGH: I am con- plan has been made for their mental and cluding, Sir. Therefore, I take this opportu- physical development. nity of congratulating the mover of the Reso- lution, who has given us an opportunity to Our friend Shri Hannan Mollah just now express our thoughts here. It is not only the gave suggestions to solve all these prob- responsibility of our good friend Shri lems. One of the suggestion given by him is Chimanbhai Mehta, who presides over the that schemes should also be formulated for Education Department here, but it also con- couples. I also agree with Shri Hannan Mollah cerns the entire nation. What is needed I that it being a Private Member's Bill will not repeat what I said in the meeting of the be passed. However there should be an- Consultative Committee on Planning thatwe other suggestion in the Bill for encouraging need sound Education planning, coupled inter-caste marriages in India which will go a with manpower planning, added by labour long way in abolishing caste ism. Inter-caste intensive technology which alone can guar- marriages between high caste and lower antee the right to work. Otherwise, there can caste boys and girls will eradicate the evil of be no right to work, unless we plan for our caste ism which is nowhere present in the education and we produce only those num- world. The main problem of ourcountry is the ber of technical hands or general graduates problem of casteism. No other country is that the country needs today. otherwise, facing this terrible problem of casteism. they can go upto the Higher Secondary Alongwith casteism, a nexus between fedu- stage and not upto the higher stages of alism and capitalism have made the prob- learning. lems of our society more complex. Due tothe nexus between capitalism and feudalism, I am thankful to you for bearing with me today the problems have assumed alarming for a short-while. There were some out- proportions in our country. bursts also. I Rope t9rbe excused if I have used any unparliamentary language unin- The incident of Agra or Fatehpur or the tertian ally. incident of Chittorgarh and all such incidents denote psychology. Unless we remove the [ Translation] feudalism from our society, the problems of our country could not be removed because SHRI JAG PAL SINGH (Hardwar) : Mr. the youth of our country have not fully devel- Deputy Speaker, Sir, the hon'bla member oped mentally so far. We have been seeing who spoke before me has taken a long time the minor youth of Punjab and Jammu and but he emphasised more on this Private Kashmir. Forthe last 12 years, the underage Member Bill. Fist of all, I would like to thank youth are becoming terrorists, who have not Shri Hannan Mollah for drawing the atention fully developed from physical and psycho- 515 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10. 1990 Sh. Hannan MoHah 516
[Sh. Jag Pal Singh] ment allowance by the Government unless jobs are provided to them. The youth should logical point of view. It is a gift to the country be given job guarantee. A commission may given by those who have not made progress be set up to safeguard their interests in a socially and educationally. comprehensive manner and present it~ reports after going through the!r problems. It is necessary to remove this sectarian The Government should chalk out compre- outlook and for that it is necessary that the hensive scheme for the youth on the basis of Government of India should formulate a the recommendations of the Commission so comprehensive policy. These problems can that a good system can be established. be solved only if Government of India evolves a comprehensive policy. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the youth of our country can be divided in many groups With these words, I support the Bill the one who lives in a village, the other who moved by Shri Hannan Mollah and urge the works in the fields and their who lives in a Government to bring a commendable Bill in city. There is a lot of difference between the the House in the coming Session, so that State of educated youth and the youth who schemes can be formulated for the develop- live in village in our country. The youth of the ment of youth of India. villages works very hard whole day but even then he does not get two square meats. On SHRt RAM KRtSHAN YADAV the other hand, the sons of capitalists, land- (Azamgarh): Hon'ble Deputy Speaker. Sir, lords lead a different life on the basis of the youth power is the greatest power of the property of theirfore-fathers. So there is a lot country. It is the backbone of the country. But of difference between the life style of poor it is very unfortunate that the youth of our people and the rich people. Due to this a country are misguided and rebellious. I think feeling of hatred has been created among it is not a fault of youth of the country. The them. I want to say that being a welfare State education policy, social system and the it is the responsibility of the Government to Government are responsible for it. The provide uniform education to the children of education advocating the principles of secu- the poor, the farmers and labourers. When larism. socialism, democracy and national- uniform education is provided to all the chil- ism has not been provided to the youth dren, they will develop equally. I think if we which should have been given to them. Even want that our country makes progress it is today, conserv.stive S¥.stem, Brahmanism, is the responsibility of our leaders to have good dominating our country as a result of which indication towards the youth. If changes are the traditions of caste ism are still perpetuat- not made in the present system, our country ing in our society for the last thousands of can not march ahead in the coming years. If years. Due to this, the youth of our country we want our country to make progress, the has been misguided. We are the citizens of youths of our country should be given good independent India. Therefore, it is our re- education about morality, honesty, national- sponsibility that if we want our country to ism, socialism, secularism. I think tnen only make progress, the youth power of the our country will make progress. country should be strengthened. It is the responsibility of the Government to frame With these words, I conclude. and adopt policies with this objective in view. SHRI M.S. PAL (Nainital) : Mr. Deputy Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. it is very unfor- Speaker, Sir, I support the Bill which has tunate that today a very large number of been introduced for inclusion of right to work youth are unemployed and misguided as in fundamental rights. \ hope that the Na- they could not get good education due to, tional Front Government will implement its poverty. , am of the view that these'unem- election manifesto which envisages that right ployed youth should be given unemploy~ to work will be made a fundamental right. 517 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 518
Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, the Socialist H a nation were to prosper, it is only countries have given priority to right to work. because of the care that the Government or They believe that eoonomic freedom is the the society has taken in developing the youth basic characteristic of freedom. The real in the right way .. If a nation was not to prosper meaning of freedom is economic freedom. I or lagging behind, also the reason is neglect. beiieve that in the absence of right to work So, f belong to the Congress where my and economic freedom, political, social and colleagues were telling that it is neglect. I religious freedom and the freedom of speech don't say or" I can't join with them on party are incomplete. The basic reason for the lines, but certainly J have a feeling right from situation of lawlessness, unemployment and the beginning that the human resources secessionism that we are facing today is development was neglected suddenly. And economic. Unemployment is showing up- when I entered into the Parliament in 1985, ward trend due to economic reasons. Lakhs when the name of the Ministry was changed and crores of youngmen and youngwomen from 'Education' to 'Human Resources are unemployed. Educated people and semi Development', I felt elated, but later. I have educated people are facing unemployment. seen the policy of the Government or the Hright to work is made a fundamental right, Ministers who were telling, 'new policy', 'new a person who does not get any work accord- policy' every time which I suppose the Prime ing to his qualifications or the Government Minister also will tell the same thing tomor- does not provide him work, he will be able to row, but with no real content. This is leading go to the court and he can get a decree from to all the evils, not one evil. If today in the the court for providing him job which will be CabinetortheGovernment human resources binding on the Government to give him development were to be glvl3n the top prior- employment or unemployment allowance as ity. as also the allocation as my colleague compensation. I support this Bill and would was telling me a levy minutes back, this like to say that our Government will imple- constraint of resources will be taken care of ment it in future as-stated in its election automatically. We don't need to break our manifesto and the crores of people, who are heads or use brains to fi"d resources for the unemployed. will get some help in getting development of this country. Sir, unless we jobs. make our youth useful, unless we make our youth motivated, put them to discipline, how [English] can we achieve targets? What amount of discussions in Parliament or the State Leg- islatures can help imprOVing the economy of 5HRI K.5. RAO ( Machilipatnam): Mr. the nation? Certainly not. So, everyone of Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I congratulate and us, the Members here, if we were to resolve admire the han. Member, Shri Hannan Mol- it above party lines, even prepared to find lah for his effort in bringing forward this fault with our own governments. in which- important Bill before this House for consid- ever governments we are there, and im- eration. First of all, I would like the han. press upon them that it is this force that Minister, Shri Chimanbhai Mehta, not to take should be taken care of firs:, if we take care this Bill very lightly, as has been the practice of this which ;s in abundance in this country in the case of Private Members' Bill, .but to fortunately or unfortunately because there put his heart and soul in understanding the was no check on the population growth, the importance of this Bill and see that an officiai percentage of youth is high and the youth are Bill is brought forward before this House on available in abundance now, the same lines very soon. Particularly as Mr. Mollah was telling, Sir, many han. Members here have between 16 and 45 years the percentage already expressed and emphasised the need would be not less than 60 now. So, if this 60 and importance of the youth for every aspect per cent in their initial career are not taken of development and growth of the nation. care of, certainly not only the youth, but even 519 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 520
[Sh. K.S. Ra01 not become a burden on their parents apart from the nation and make their parents to go the politicians that represent them, also will round the doors of the politicians or the be of the same category. Even if the right bureaucrat or some officer or welfare citizen representatives are to be selected in the ;n the area for the employment. If we have to country. it requires the right youth to be avoid this unfortunate situation, we should made, to be built up. Sir, when we go to our create the confidence that he need not constituencies. when we see hundreds and depend upon anybody. The youth should thousands of youth coming to us for some have the confidence to translate their knOWl- livelihood or employment, we really feel edge into action, the moment they come out ashamed. I attribute this entirely to the'sys- of the institute. But the only thing is when he tern of education. starts earning his livelihood, the doors of the universities and colleges should not be Sir, we are producing lakhs and lakhs of closed, no matter what his age is. If he has degree holders and doctorates. I myself being got the zeal, ability and time he must be an ~ngineer, feel that this education is doing allowed to secure a degree or a post-gradu- extensive damage to us, the reason being ate degree later and then improve his living that when I came out of the Institute as a conditions, his income and all that. When it engineer, an ego was built up in my mind that comes to the question of doctorate, unfortu- I am an engin99r. S~ felt that my job is not nately, I feel ashamed to see on several to learn, my job is only to order, my job is not occasions, many people claim that they are to work, not to sweat, but it is only to give the doctorates in their own subjects, but when work to somebody. This feeling is causing we go seriously into their knowledge, not extensive damage. While going into the many of them have got innovative thinking knowledge I acquired, I felt sincerely that and not many of them think in a creative way. even as a graduate engineer I only learnt So, I wish the scrutiny must be more in ABCD. but I am sure that I did not learn how regard to the higher education and in the to bring CAT together and make it a 'cat'. I earlier ages, it must be purely vocational. In now understand it, I believe. This could be this regard, I go to the extent of requesting known only when we enter into the real life, ~ou to bring a system of compulsory educa- that too when we have a zeal to learn, tion. If you bring compulsory education and understand things and come out. It this is also give the minimum facilities, as my friend lacking, even that also is not possible. So, I was suggesting, like free mid-day meals, do not want to take much time, but I am only free clothing, free stationery etc., which are giving expression to my feeling. I am of the required-initially it might be opposed-then, opinion that it is not the criticism of the earlier later it will be a great help to all those poor- Government orthe present Governme'nt. but people who are suffering from centuries and jf all of us feel that the rAsponsible Members thousands of years because of poverty. who have to account for the progress of the Education is the best instrument of transfor- nation are the youth, we must all resolve it mation, particularly for the poor to improve above party fines. The concentration must their livelihood. Otherwise, these thousands be only on building up the youth. In this I am of crores which you are giving through vari- of this opinion let us put an end to the present ous means, either through financial institu- system of education entirely. tions or otherwise, is of absolutely no use. The best thing is the right education and right Let us bring a new system of education method of training the youth in the initial where even at the Eighth class level. all the stages itself. As it was taken by many of the youngsters or the students depending upon predecessors, I do not want Mehtaji to be their attitude must be diverted to vocational one among them and then get criticised by training institutes to make them acquire the the later Governments. I would request you confidence that by the time they leave the to humbly secure more funds through the institute, they can live or. their own and do budget or planning by whatever support of 521 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 522 the members. We are prepared to work for it 52% and that of man is 34%. In rural areas above party lines. I request you to bring a this percer.tage is much higher. 82% woman revolutionary change in the system to take and 59% men are unemployed. The hon. care of the youth of this -country and thereby Minister and other Members are present in the progress of the nation. the House. They should ponder over this issue seriously and make their contribution [ Translation] in providing better opportunities of employment to the youth who are the builders of the . SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR future of the nation. The leaders always talk (Bareilly): Mr. Deputy Speaker,Sir, first of all, about future generation but it is only the I would like to thank Shri Hannan Mollah for wisemen and thinkers who really contribute presenting a Bill keeping in mind various to progress of the country. Therefore, if we issues related 10 youth. After the change in want to lead our country, in the right direc- administration, the present Government is tion, make it prosperous, then we will have to making efforts to solve various problems, generate adequate employment potential the country is facing. If the Government for the youth so that we are able to build a wants to bring a Bill for solving the problems new future for them. Sir, I am grateful to you of youth, then this Bill can be accepted as a for giving me an opportunity to speak. Government Bill. I would like to give two or three suggestions. Today one third of the [English] population of our country consists of the youth, but inspite of it, youth is being ignored. SHRI KUSUMA KRISHNA MURTHY As a result we have not been able to achieve (Amalapuram): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, at the required progress though we are a coun- the outset, I would like to congratulate the try of 80 crore people. Only a few selected mover of this Bill, Shri Hannan Mollah. The persons have actually achieved something. Government can improve upon this Bill and Whenever, we want to do something tor the make it a good piece of legislation. It is a fact country, we keep the youth I the forefront that a comprehensive youth policy was not and try to accomplish the task with their help evolved so far in this country. Though it was but we do not pay sufficient attention to their very important, somehow that could not be problems, whether it was Udham Singh or brought so far. But for the first time, in this Bhagat Singh, it was the youth who re- country, after independence, the significance mained in the forefrontofourfreedom struggle of youth force was realised and the Ministry and sacrificed their lives. I would like to say with the name of Human Resource Develop- that it is an era of change and if problems of ment was created. That was done by the youth are not attended to, the country will not Congress Government. Somebody rightly progress. Today, the youth is becoming drug said that by bringing a policy or introducing a addict. The system of education is faulty and new name, does not serve the purpose. But there are different patterns at different lev- I would like to precisely put it that after els. At some places fee is Re. I and head of independence, for the first time, the demo- the family. cratic rights of the youth- about which this Bill is also referring to-were realised by the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: This point Congress Government under the leadership has already been covered, please make of Rajivji. In spite of strong opposition, he some new points. had carried forward that aspect and given the right to vote for youth with 18 years of SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR: age. It is giving the real significance to the I would like to say that at present more than democratic rights of the youth. It is a very 2 crore youths are registered with the em- important right that would enable the nation ployment exchanges and they are facing the to formulate the policies as perthe wishes of problem of unemployment. In the urban the youth. That right was realised and was areas, percentage of unemployed women is given proper shape and significance. Frankly, 523 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10: 1990 Sh. Hannan Mol/ah 524
[Sh. Kusuma Krishan Murthy] been clearly mentioned in the Bill that this social inequality is coming in a big way and the credit goes to the previous Government discoura9ing and also creating a kind of under the leadership of Shri Rajivji. inferiority "COmplex among the youth. That should also be removed through our policy. There is a false.,jmpression among the youth because the dignity of labour which is These are the important aspects which an important aspect, was not properly culti- the Government should take into cO!'lsidera- vated among them. We always think in terms tion while improving upon this Bill and make of white-collar job. I do not know how we it a good piece of legislation. Certainly, it is have imbibed this spirit but it still continues. an important piece of legislation which the This myth has to be exploded. Education Government is really thinking about and I does not mean only college or university would urge upon the Government to take up education. Education which gives the kind of this Bill and bring forward a piece of legisla- setf-confidence to youth to stand on their tion with necessary improvements. Certainly own legs is important. We have been seeing this will help in a big way and help the nation that in various other countries. This kind of to build up on sound and exemplary way approach, this kind of way of life should be because youth force is the real force and the taught to the youth. in whatever form they real wealth of the nation. Definitely this Bill wanted to evolve. We are not dearth of should help us. We are giving lot of signifi- talent. We have the largest number of youth cance and importance to various Bills. There- force in this country as compared to other fore, I would request the hon. Minister to take countries. But we are always very insignifi- this Bill into consideration and bring forward cant on the question of representing our this very useful and necessary piece of leg- country in the field of sports and games. We islation in the interest of the nation. are lagging behind in international games and sports. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now the hon. Minister will speak. Not that we lack the talent. Forexample. in the tribal areas, we see a very good youth The MINISTER OF STATE IN THE force and in the Bill it was correctly men- MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DE- tioned some of the factors which always VELOPMENT (SHRt CHIMANBHAI come in the way of bringing up the rural MEHTA): I am much obligedtodistinguished youth. Therefore, we are not able to give a hon. Members who have participated. al- proper importance and opportunity for the most numbering 22 speakers and perhaps it youth and draw it from wherever they are is discussed for more than eight or nine available. This kind of barrier should be hours and the mover of the Bill Shri Hannan removed and a proper importance, depend- Mollah has also done a stupendous work ing on the talent, wherever it is available, and much labour has gone into the prepara- should be given. For that, proper encourage- tion of the Bill and that is reflected in the Bill ment need to be provided through a compre- and the comments that are offered by vari- hensive policy on education or a compre- ous speakers. hensive policy on youth which is a very Important aspect in our national life. At the outset, let me say that our approach towards this Bill is certainly positive Much has been said about education. I and we consider that the suggestions and would not like to repeat it. But I would like to the points made are of vital importance in say one thing. The youth irrespective of framing, in the first stage, a national youth urban or rural or whichever part of the coun- policy and then after that stage when the try they belong, should be given a kind of proper time would arise for the enactment of Impression that they are all equal. In this the Bill I hope it comes very soon and it can country. there is no social equality. It has be undertaken also. 525 Youth BiD by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 526
I was happy to note that almost all the education is not lUXUry. It is a very rewarding speakers who spoke contributed their ideas investment forthe nation and we must under- while maintaining the level of the debate take that approach. above narrow party partisan approach. It was an approach and concern for the youth With regard to youth, the Planning that was reflected. Commission has recently given directions. In the Eighth Plan, the working group has Sir, some of the points that have been proposed three times more provision for made are of general nature but which may sports and youth activities compared to the require some comments in the beginning Seventh Plan. But that would hardly come to and then I may reply to some of the important a figure around Rs. 800 crores. points also in detail. 17.00 hrs. About the Ed ucation that has come now, a long criticism has been done. Most of the At the moment, in the Seventh Plan, we speakers have made this criticism. The criti· just spent Rs. 300 crores and we may go up cism is on two counts. First, it is largely to Rs. 800 crores' Of around that. That is a textual and bookish; the content of the edu· plan towards ouryouth approach. Ultimately, cation is poor, and secondly it is not job· the discussion over here certainly would be oriented. Covering both the aspects, the conveyed to the Planning Commission and limitation of the Budget has been showed. we would request them to consider the The attitude of the Government reflected in considered views of the Members of Parlia- the Budget has been showed and they ment. Our general approach towards youth pointed out that very meagre Budget is being is of taking two things into consideration-that earmarked for education. There is a sub· they must become the pride of our nation. As stance in that criticism offered. In the year Mandhataji has rightly observed, at the , 964, the Kothari Commission suggested moment, they are loaded with the heavy the earmarking of 6 percent of the national feeling of frustration. He has described in income for education. Till this date, we are detail about the double personality and ulti· just around 3.9 per cent including the States mately, I")ot delivering goods-one thing which and the Central sectors. That comes around was promised to the youth and not delivered to Rs. 14000 crores. To reach the 6 per cent to them. That is what is happening today. target, we haveto make still more efforts and it is not impossible. Therefore, the National 17.01 hrs. Front is committed and this Government is also committed that in the first stage we will [SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE in the reach the 6 percent target that was laid in Chailj 1964 and ther. again in 1986 and before that also. But we would certainly realise and try to Now take the vocational education. The do beyond that. real problem is of unemployment. And the backlog of unemployment is terrific around Sir, in the Youth Bill, which Shri Hannan four crores. Out of this, 16 million are edu- Moflah has put forward, he has made some cated unemployed. According to them, above rough calculations and that may also take us matriculation level are educated. But those around to Rs. 10,000-12000 crores if we try drop-outs below the matriculation level shou Id to formulate the schemes on the lines sug· be considered. The number is much bigger gested by him, perhaps more than that. But and they all add to a collective frustration, the the resource crunch-should not be the ex· rise of militancy. terrorism, caste wars, cuse. I agree with him in this regard. Per· communal riots. Mandhataji is absolutely haps, some of the developing countries and right that politicians are having double per· developed countries are spending more sonalities. They denounce casteism and they money on education and money spent on exploit caste;sm. They denounce commu· S27 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 528
[Sh. Chimanbhai Mehta] is going to be taken into confidence. Mem- bers have criticised and said, give up the nalism and they exploit communalism. And present education system. Somebody has this is how we try to satisfy youth-by filling the said that it is a British legacy orwhatever it is rich of a chauvjnistic ideology. This is not and we will do away with that. leading our nation on the path of healthy progress neither to national integration nor About the National Youth policy, the to emotional integration. That is our first, Prime Minister the other day in the Rajya concern of our youth approach and "youth Sabhasaidthatoneofthe ingredients is right policy. How to combat casteism; how t6 to work as a fundamental work. That has combat communalism is a very important been discussed here. We are not evading aspect that can be debated on some other the issue. Someone has thought that per- occasion also. haps it was in response to the electoral need that this slogan was worked out. I don't think The Members expressed their concern so. Even if youthink so, why such an urgency about character building or the youth. It is arose? There is a national urgency to give absolutely correct. When I go and sermor such a slogan for political parties which they them on building a character, they say, you never felt before. And the right to work to be are our best teacher-what you have taught, made fundamental is now in the process and you are building. So, politicians have to the enactment may corr.e before we think it address themselves first on this task be- is late. Because on this Bill as you know our cause we are the leaders, considered as Government is working out a line of consen- such, of the society. And therefore, unless sus. We are discussing with various political the vanguard improves, those who are at the parties. This is a policy of all the parties as helm of the society with social healthy attrib- they have supported it. So we feel that it is utes, younger generation is not going to our duty that we discuss it before we put the learn anything from the sermons. But they Bill before the House. That is the only point will copy them because they are already and there is no difference of opinion on this frustrated. measure.
Now I will take up some of the vital I have already said about the education points. About what is spent on education policy. We are committed to giving free today, I have already given the figure as Rs. education upto the age of 14. I think most of 14000 crores. A question has been asked the schools to that level is under State sub- about the existing education policy. There is ject. Kendriya Vidyalaya is under Central Acharya Ramamurthy Committee. The Government and to the Delhi Administration National Front manifesto is committed on largely we are giving the budget. There various important points. We can immedi- education upto this level is free. Beyond that ately enact it, frame a policy and put it into to make it free or to what extent it should be practice. There is the mandate. But we made free, we have to consider. thought it wise that-educationists should consult various sections of the people in- I request you to consider one point, that cluding teachers primary, secondary and for a student in engineering college, we are university-Members of Parliament, Manage- spending Rs. 25 thousand, including recur- ment, parents and other people-whosoever ring and non-recurring. But the Government desires to meet them. The time limit is not is charging a fee of Rs. 800 only.' going to be extended; it is six months. That means on the 6th November the Report is On attaining graduation, an engineer going to come. It is just three months away. earns-on employment-around Rs. 3,000/- Then whatever Report comes, it will be per month, to start with. Or may be after two considered soon and in that consideration years-sometimes there is a surplus market and evaluation of that policy this House also or sometimes there is a shortage in a particu- 529 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mol/ah 530 lar Branch. In computers and electronics, , what you suggest. there is a big demand. Do you want to' make education free in that case? Some Members have suggested and I have already discussed the question of right I may remind you that in the rural areas, to work. schools 30 per cent of the villages do not have apuccabuilding oreven ordinary school Now, Let us take vocational education. building; 28 percent of the schools are one- I am talking of the 10th and 12th level and not teacher schools. Only one teacher is teach- the engineering or technical college or di- ing for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th classes. I want ploma courses. The Education Policy, 1986 to know whether to provide Budget for them decided that by 1990, 25 per cent students or f9r the general education from where are going to be enrolled in vocational stream. graduates pass out. The graduates, after But, today, we have reached hardly a figure few years, after bribing-without bribe also- of six percent. Two years back-I am giving a get a job of a clerk. Even for the teacher's job, rough estimate-less than two per cent was one has to pay a bribe of Rs. 50 thousgnd in spent on vocational education from the secondary schools and for primary schools, Central Budget. Now we have reached the Rs. 25 thousands. The markets vary from six per cent limit. But we wanted to reach the time to time. When I quote Rs. 25 thousand, 25 percent limit. they say, ' you are out-of-date'. They say, 'new rat~s are operating now'. So, where At the moment, we are spending Rs. have we to put more money? 200 crores. Then, you have to spend Rs. 2500 crore. These are the issues and we I would like education to be totally free, have to cope- up with them. I am not just as is being done in socialist countries. That saying that these limitations should be ac- will be the ideal concept and practice also. cepted. If 35 percent boys in the 10 to 12 get Not that, it is not practicable. But under the vocational education, they get the linkage situation, what is to be done? I think we are job. They have started. In the Generallnsur- spending Rs. one lakh on one boy, per year. ance Corporation, we have an agreement Butwhat is the fee he pays? It is only Rs. 400 with them that we have a tailormade course per annum or something like that-this is a for you in 10 to 12. Why are you asking for rough estimate. degrees? When they give the job specifications, we prepare the students during 10 to SHRI K.S.-RAO:ts it Rs. one lakh on ITI 12 in a tailor-made course. The first batch of Boy? 215 have already gone out of the schools. Now they are taking preliminary training. SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA: No. On According to the agreement, they must get liT Boy. Most of them go abroad, after edu- an employment in the General Insurance cation because there is a big demand. They Corporation. look out for better jobs. That was just a beginning. Now, we May I ask for some reimbursement from have written to Health Department, Railway them, so that I can open more !ITs and the Department, public undertakings and other boys may be retained here? May I ask Ministries. Therefore, we are in communica- something from engineers that they may tion with them. We want to make it in a bigger reimburse some amount after they become way. It should not be done only by the economically well. So that I can modernise Government Departments. We want to tell to education; I can open more engineering the vocational education institutions that let colleges? I can divert that money on primary them become the nodal agencies to have a education, which is needed. To consic;ierthat ' contact with the industrial units and agricul- aspect, lIeave itforthe House to decide. W~ tural units-a very big marketfor self-employ- are at your disposal and we will carry out ment. We do not want wage-earners. The 531 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10,1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 532
[Sh. Chimanbhai Mehta] undertake jobs of vocational and other nature. Mudal.;;;."; Commission might have suggested about tr e wage-earners in the form of self- Regarding formation of students unions suppont"lg persons. !\ dynamic person can in schools and colleges, they believe in be croated if dynamic opportunities are pro- democratisation of educational institutions. Vided by !he society. Therefore, agriculture We also believe that students and teachers has to ab~'Jrb crores of youth. should also should participate in the management. Parents also should participate to India has big sea coastline. There is a make education more responsive. So, there big scope ;or marine engineering, sea coast is no difference of opinion and we have busines:. trade, and from region to region, agreed to it. But the only trouble is that every vocational institution should find out its violence and some ugly incidents occurring own tr, de~ and jobs. We are thinking in in some university campuses are quoted. terms 0· ',;?, eater autonomy to them to intro- We have told the Vice-Chancellors and the duc~ 1ho··..... wn course so that they can have authorities concerned not to make an ex- tailor-made courses to the boys for employ- cuse out of it to prevent elections for a long ment immediately after they go out of the time because they may not occur some- schools. times. But as far as elections are concerned, schools and colleges have their own auton- Now about NSS and other departments, omy. We do not interiere butwe do givethem we agree v:ith these. In the beginning, the guidelines. enrolme twas 40,000. Today, the enrol- ment has 'lOrle up to one million. On the As far as national policy is concerned, it whole, th" 1ings are progressing. But we is going to be announced very soon. This is want sorr~"- 19 more to be done. There is a being considered now at the highest level suggestio. ,at then~-6hould be compulsory and is in the final stage. What has been done scheme fOi tt·,· m. We shall have to give a priorto that? Two national level Seminars or deeper thour . to it. How to make it compul- Conferences of Youth, in which representa- sory? Can Jntives of other kinds like tives of almost all the political and non- marks or pre:. -;ions be given? There has to political parties participated, and been con- be a very wi e consensus on this point. vened and all the points which have been Otherwise. somc3body may agree here. discussed in detail are reflected in this Bill. Governmen' :nay declare and somebody And not only that our Deputy Minister has else might (;r)pose it. gone to 12 States and has participated in State level Youth Conferences and almost Then, t lere is :1 question of more reser- every week, the youth delegations were vation for youth in jobs. With the latest an- discussing the problems of the youth. There- nouncement, 1e reservation for the SC/ST fore, a most democratic youth policy is going and OBCs ha reached up to 49.5 percent. to be framed and would be announced soon. Still, there is a I Jestion of reservation for the We know that the biggest section of our handicapped. here are suggestions for .. population is our rural youth. We are very reservation for' . omen in jobs. Some .states ' much with the rural youth and we want to do have some p, 'rcentage. So, this has als,? give them agricultural jobs. Apart from that, 10 be looked into. There are reservations for we want to decentralise industries. We want women and for r1andicapped. to develop cottage industries, small scale industries and we have started community In some States, it is 64 percent and in polytechnic centres which is something worth some States, it is 68 percent. I think it is seeing. The capital infrastructure is not big bound to be covered in a substantial way and for these centres. I had been to one of the to make them cover more and more, we are centres. They say that it is just Rs. 5 lakhs. making more peo(:'le e-ligible so that they can TV repairing, radio repairing, welding, furni- 533 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Me'/ail 534 ture making, wiring, pump repairing and pass out every year. Military trairir;g for whatever is required in the villages are taught three years would require a huge! ~ncial there. Something about tractor repairing, outlay_ But how to substitute it, wha 3n be something about scooter repairing. This sort done in an elementary manner, that s being of education is also being undertaken. We looked into. There are repeated demanrls by want that it should be done on a bigger scale. friends that this should be made a lav and For that thousands of community-polytech- I have replied to that also. The first vital nic centres have to be opened and more measure that we are taking is the announce- money invested. We would also require ment of National Youth Policy very soon. persons with multi-skills to give the required education. A person put on the job should In November-December, 1988 an at- know various skills. So, that is being done. tempt was made and it was p'lced before the Parliament. But placing it before the Then, about removal of illiteracy. We House is one thing and acting upon it in a are working on it also. It is a spontaneous serious manner is a differe;.t thing. Anyway, desire of college and university students, some attempt was made. Whether it was and those who pass ten plus two, that they good, whether it was done half-heartedly, I would like to use their vacations for removal do not want to go into H ~ details of it. It is of illiteracy. I have seen some of the student O.K., you have done scmething. Now, we camps. They said thm they would not mind have to drastically alter it, give a new direc- even if we made it compulsory. Ernakulam in tion in order to make youth leader of the Kerala is one of the shining examples for nation with new idealism, and vanguard in this. There, the college boys and girls, pro- several fields and put as much finance as fessionals, teachers as also political workers possible in the Youth Regeneration move- of various parties are devoting fully for the ment, Renaissance movement because only removal of illiteracy. that section can fight vigorously against casteism which would bring them on the We are discussing about youth; they proper rail. We, elders have lost the stamina. can play a vital role. About forth lakhs of We have opposed it, but we adjusted with college and university students are there the reality. Perhaps my friend, Mandhataji around us. The last figure that I have is 48 has objection to this double personality but lakhs of 1988. Then, we have the 10th and that idealism has come into that section only. 12th class students; their number is more than one and a half crores. If all of them are I don't want to repeat all the points again employed during vacations forthis purpose, and again. I would say let the first stage of we can visualize the result. And that dO.es not' announcement of Youth policy be over and require a heavy financial outlay either. SomEJ then we can go on to the next stage. I think stationery has to be given and for that the that would be a well scheduled programme. provisions has to be made in the Central It is not to avoid or put in cold storage the sector. Implementation WOUld, of course, be ideas of this Bill. at the local level. Planning Commission has to be requested that some more provision for A point was made that inter-State youth the ongoing schemes should be made at exchange programme may be conducted. least for a decade. That has been done on a minor scale and it can be done on a major scale. Then, the youth can play an important role in the education of family planning. That I have already answered most of the WOUld, of course, need no elaboration. points. Points regarding compulsory education, participation of youth in management of As regards three years military training administration of schools, all are okay. after graduation, that is a very expe.nsive Something is going to be done on ail these proposition. Forty to fifty lakhs graduates scores. Regarding sports facility to youth, 535 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mo/lah 536
[Sh. Chimanbhai Mehta] SHRI MANDHATA SINGH: Madam, one clarification. from Seventh Plan to Eighth Plan three times more expenditure will be undertaken on it. Han. Minister has referred to the Acharya Something more should be done. Now, we Ramamurthy Review Committee. We even are trying to identify the sport potential in the do not know the names of the Members of student age. We try to pick them up while the Committee. Only three months are left. If they are children so that in the international is supposed that they have to react with the arena they could get good marking and teachers' organisations and the Members of come out with bright results. Parliament. If the Minister can kindly give us a list of Members of that Acharya Ramamur- There can be no difference of opinion thy Review Committee, we might send our with regard to promC)fion of health amongst suggestions to them in writing. youth. Regarding provision of nutritional meal in the schools, some States are providing SHRI CHIMANBHAI MEHTA: Madam, packet meal and others are providing in a the names of the Members of the Acharya regular meal form. Most of the points raised Ramamurthy Review Committee were an- in the Bill ego Medical care tor youth, training nounced here on the 7th May and the whole of youth in trade, vocationalisation, appropri- statement of policy was laid down. All the 17 ate training to students have already been names were read out be me, in this House covered. I think the National Youth Policy will and in the other House. But, certainly we will take care of the apex body for youth. Some provide the list to the Members of Parliament noddle agency will try to steer through the again. They are going to call a meeting of the youth programmes. teachers' organisations and various organisations. They have got their addresses. They I think I have covered almost all the are going to meet in Delhi in the last week of points to the extent possible. I do not know August. They will be calling you also. But whether I have satisfied to the Members or even then, we will provide you the names. not. I have tried to answer to the ~xtent possible. In the end I would say that our Now, I will come to the point regarding approach to the Bill is very positive. National uneducated skilled persons who are pre- Youth Policy would be announced very soon. pared to part with the skills to others. That is We are moving in a very effective way to- a very good idea. Certainly, we will try to wards the vocationalisation, job orientation work out such kinds of institutions. There are and right to work. I have already elaborated some such institutions in Aurangabad where other points and I need not repeat them. they say, with a very meagre expense, they Thank you tor giving me a patient hearing. impart certain skills as well as general education so that they can get good jobs. SHRI K.S. RAO: There are a lot of people in the rural area who are not qualified So, my only request ultimately would be but who have got lot of skill and are prepared after this clarification to Shri Hannan Mollah to impart this skill to the uneducated youth. is this. All that is required is infrastructure. Will you kindly think in terms of assisting them? You He has done a tremendous service by said it does not require more budgetary bringing in this Bill, by focusing the question resources it only requires one-tenth of the of youth. We would reconsider this and a resources which you require for training the satisfactory youth policy could be announced. same youth through Government. Will you I congratulate him. keep in mind assisting these people either through Government organisation orthrough MR. CHAIRMAN: I would like to inform voluntary organisations or youth c\ubs in the House that the time allotted 1m the BiI\ providing the infrastructure? has been already over. But I think everybody 537 Youth Bill by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Hannan Mollah 538 wi!1 agree that the mover of this Bill should be First, they invited the youth organiza- given some time for his reply. Mr. Hannan tions. We had long deliberations. Even the Mollah, how much time do you require? Prime Minister was present there. We collected a lot of suggestions, and on their basis SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Uluberia): the Government had prepared another Not much. Suggestion Paper, and that was placed before a proper audience: all national level Madam, Chairperson, firstly I thank all youth organizations, students organizations the hon., Members who spoke here and and voluntary organizations also participated. supported the basic ideas behind this pro- They were also there during the delibera- posal which was brought forward by me, in tions. the form of a Bill, in this House. All the suggestions put together have I was working and propagating all these been placed before the Government. We ideasof youth-student movementforthe last think tftat the Government will consider all 20-25 years, outside the Parliament as well those suggestions in their proper perspec- as inside the Parliament. I am also happy tive, and that on some flimsy grounds, e.g, of that has come to the Parliament. We think funds or anything else they will not abandon that we have to put pressure to formulate all these suggestions which we have col- such a comprehensive youth policy in order lected. They are necessary. Now at least we to cover all aspects of the youth. If we do it, should honestly make a start. Where we will then only we can develop healthy citiz.ens in ' reach, the future will prove. At least a honest the future. . beginning should be there. Government has already stated that it is going to announce a The point is that. all suggestions that full-fledged policy, during the middle of this have been mooted in the last five years will month, in the present Session. I think it will not beiully implemented in the present social be proper to place the entire policy in the system. I have no illusion that all that we House. It should be discussed properly, and have desired will be fulfilled. we should reach a conclusion unanimously, so that we can form a comprehensive youth Anyway, some beginning should be policy. To the extent possible, we should made there. At least we can expect this reach a consensus. No patriotic citizen can minimum. This Bill was again brought by me have two opinions on the need for the devel- in the last Session. For four years, it was just opment of youth and future citizens. For lying and ultimately it lapsed. Therefore, I good things, naturally all good minds will brought this Bill to draw the attention of the come together. So, we hope that policy will Government. Since the formation of this be properly formulated. Still, 1 insist that an Parliament, never such ayouth-studentpolicy announcement of the policy alone will not had been discussed in the House in detail. serve the purpose, because policy announce- Only in 1988 was a policy announced, with ments will just express the desire; but how some high-sounding words, without any will it be implemented? concrete programme for the full-fledged development of the future citizens of our I know the 8ill which they have pre- country. pared, is not comprehensive. Many new things may be added. The Deputy Speaker himself had written to me, that of the things Anyway, the hon. Minister has re- mentioned in the Bill, some could be in- spondE)d to certain aspects which I have cluded in the Policy. Everything cannot be brought in this Bill. I am also thankful to this brought in, in the form of a Bill. Some should Government that they at least have tried to be in the form of a Bill, and some others in the app\y their mind and tried to find out how we Policy. I agree that everything cannot be can formulate a comprehensive policy. brought within an Act. The policy part will be 539 Youth Bill by AUGUST 10, 1990 Sh. Hannan Mollah 540
[Sh. Hannan Mollah] to the vote of the House.
there, no doubt. In the implementing part, the Amendment No.1 and 2 were put and right to work, the right to education, are negatived there. Certain other issues which we have brought in here, should have legal status and MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Hannan Mollah, legal authority, so that they can be imple- il" view of the assurance given by the Minis- mented. ter, would you like to insist on it or would you like to withdraw your Bill? There are many Ministries dealing with this matter. The Department of Youth Affairs SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: In view of the has nothing to implement. They implement assurance given by the hon. Minister that only certain orders and decisions. So, a they are going to accept my suggestions in proper Act should be there for the Depart- two phases, that is, they are going to an- ment of Y::.uth Affairs to implement, That' nounce a new policy with regard to it and a Youth Act should be properly form'ulated, comprehensive Bill incorporating all the and it should include sports and cultural important provisions of this draft Bill will be activities also. It should have legal binding brought before the House very soon, I with- and legal authority. Such a Bill should be draw my Bill. bought in. MR. CHAIRMAN: Has the han. Member The Government had, in the first place, leave of the House to withdraw his Bill? agreed to prepare a comprehensive policy with regard to that. After consultations with SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. the Members, certain provisions will be bought before the House in the form of a Bill The Bill was, by leave, withdrawn and certain provisions will be bright in the form of policy. Everything will not be incorporated in the Bill. It will be in two parts. Only then we will have a comprehensive guid- [English] ance for the Central Government, State Governments and the ccncerned authorities to work for the development of human re- MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Yadvendra Datt, sources. They are real resources. The other you have to move your motion for considera- tesources are materials. If the human re- tion of the Bill. sources are properly developed and the material resources are utilised properly, we SHRI YADVENDRA DA IT (Jaunpur): will be able to build united and strong nation. May I seek one clarification for my guidance. We will also be able to safeguard our unity, Now it is ten minutes to six. The House will integrity and independence. I hope the han. probably adjourn at Six O'Clock. So, if I Minister will keep these suggestions of mine move my Bill for consideration, then you will in mind and as soon as possible try to bring ask me to speak on it. It is such a broad affair forward a piece of !egislation incorporating that it will not be possible for me to complete all these provisions. it within ten minutes. So, you kindly let me know what should I do. With these words, I conclude my speech. Thank you. MR. CHAIRMAN: You first move your MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Yuvraj has moved motion for consideration of the Bill. two amendments to the motion for consideration of the Bill. J find that he is not present in the House. Now I shall put them together 541 Grains Broad by SRAVANA 19,1912 (SAKA) Sh. Yadvendra Datt 542
17.49 hrs. itself. This has got to be remedied. How to remedy it is the question. There is only one GRAINS BOARD BILL way to remedy it. That is, for the foodgrains prices there should be a board, a permanent by Shri Vadvendra Datt autonomous board which is not controlled by the Government at all. The Government may [English] have a representative in it. But the Govern- ment should not be the boss of it. That board SHR~ YADVENDRA DATT (Jaunpur): J should be autonomus. beg to move: It should have the purchasers in it, the "That the Bill to provide for establish- small, the big, the medium and the marginal. ment of an autonomous Board tor fixa- It should have established economists on it, tion of minimum prices every yearof all especially agro-economists. the agricuitural commodities in the nature of foodgrains and for matters I will tell you my experience of one great connected therewith, be taken into agro-economlst in this country because consideration." people have been talking too much ot planning, and planning. That gentleman pro- I am very glad that the han. Minister has duced a paper in 1978 probably when my just now spoken about agriculture. Is agricul- friend Shri Kumaramangalam was not here. ture economical? That agro-economist wrote that with one acre of a land if a farmer was putting tobacco What really happens is that by and large he earned a profit of Rs.20.000. When I read agriculture has become a hand to mouth that paper. as that great agro-economist affair. Except for a few big farmers who have was a good friend of mine, I went to him and surplus to sell, forthe rest it is hand to mouth. said, "My friend, I will give you an acre at land Now, how to correct this position? Every in my house, Come on, make all the invest- year, you see the strange and unusual phe- ment that you can. on this tobacco and give nomenon in our country, that immediately me Rs. 18,000 as profit. I will sell that piece close to the harvest period the prices of the of land to you. But land is not a rubber affair. foodgrains decline and the farmers are left at There is a diminishing return on it. the mercy of the traders and as so on as the lean period starts the consumer has to pur- How much will you be able to produce in chase the same foodgrains at a very high it?" I asked him. With the high cost of inputs, price and they are left at the mercy of the of the fertilizers, of the tractors, of the labour traders. charges, how much will it produce? For God's sake, let us therefore be done with such dreamy economists. I want inthis Board This is a phenomenon occurring year by real agro-economists. year. It is said tnat there was a prising board. The Government is selling and purchasing. There is another question. If my friends And, do you think Madam, that any producer travel around into the country. especially on will fix a price which will not suit him? This is the Mandi side what do we see on the railway the only industrial affair in the world vJhere stations? The Government which haS pur- the producer is not allowed to fix his price. chased the food grains. at a support price- Someone heaps a price over his head. mind you, that is a support price not a fixed price-from the farmer. that foodgrain is lying If I manufacture a pen I fix a selling price. in the open, uncovered. Probably a tattered If I manufacture a boot, I fix the selling price. plastic sheet is spreaj over it. Thefoodgrains But if I farm the land and become the Anna- are a welcome food for all the rats around data the poor Annadata is shouted down by about it. I regret to say, even for hum.)!) rats. some purchaser which is the Government whatever colour they may be. Millions of 543 Grains Broad by AUGUST 10, 1990 Bil/lntroduced 544 Sh. Yadvendra Datt [Sh. Yadvendra Datt] Shri Kumaramanglam. tonnes of foodgrains are being destroyed'. That is why I have added that this Board shall deal with the matter connected therewith 17.59 hrs. and the biggest matter connected therewith is storage. How to store it? There is a lot of ARCHITECTS (AMENDMENT) BILL" talk of modern, what you call, storage bins. Are those amount of bins is sufficient? I have (Amentdment of section 25) been heanng in the Parliament. Many questions have been put. Oh, we are building this [English] much of bins and that much of bins. It is like pie in the sky. Why do you forget your old SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- method, khati system, which is as much lem): I beg to move for leave to introduce a waterproof as modern bins are? At a very Billfuitherto amend the Architects Act, 1972. small cost. khati system could be introduced in the villages. MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: Let us handle first whatever people know how to do best. We have not taken one step "That leave be granted to introduce a and we start flying in the airto crash down to Billfurtherto amend the Architects Act. absolute destruction. This board will also 1972." deal with the creation and the building of the bins. For the information of my friends, I may The motion was adopted tell them that in older days, even till I was 45 years, the bins were made in the villages, a SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: deep cave was dug in, it was burnt and then introduce the Bill. foodgrains were put )n and sealed water tight. 18.00 hrs.
Madam, it is true that in this khati, grains CURTAILMENT OF EXPENDITURE ON could be maintained for two years. But then MARRIAGES BILL" you did not have to poison your grain to protect them from yoiJf rats and every variety [English] of insects. We have seen what happened in Basti. Poisoned wheat was given and people died. It was a natural way of protecting the SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATT grains. So, forthe purpose of storage, forthe (Baroda): I beg to move for leave to intro- purpose of protection, this Board should be duce a Bill to provide for the curtailment of giv~n full rights to do it. expenditure on marriages and for matters connected therewith. Then, the question arises acout inputs. Let me take first the question of irrigation. I MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:: do not know what has happened in South. "That leave granted to introduce a Bill MR. CHAIRMAN: From irrigation. you to provide for the curtailment of expen- can continue next time. diture on marriages and for matters connected therewith." Now, let us take up introduction of Bills which were left out. The motion was adopted
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SHRI PRAKASH KOKO introduce a Bill further to amend the Consti- BRAHMBHAIT: , introduce the Bill. tution of India.
MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:
18.01 hrs. "That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of CEILING ON INCOME BILL· India."
[English] The motion was adopted
SHRIPRAKASH KOKOBRAHMBHAIT SHRI PRAKASH KOKO (Baroda): I beg to move for leave to intro- BRAHMBHAIT: I introduce the Bill. duce a Bill to provide for ceiling on income of families of employees and professionals and 18.03 hrs. for matters connected therewith. CHILD WELFARE BILL· MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is : [English] ''That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for ceiling on income of SHRI PRAKASH KOKO BRAHMBHATT families of employees and profession- (Baroda): I beg to move for leave to intro- als and for matters connected there- duce a Bill to provide for the welfare of with. children.
The motion was adopted MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:
SHRI PRAKASH KOKO "That leave be granted to introduce a BRAHMBHAIT: I Introduce The Bill. Bill to provide for the welfare of children."
The motion was adopted 18.02 hrs. SHRI PRAKASH KOKO CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BRAHMBHAIT: I introduce the Bill. BILL·
(Amendment of Article 124, etc.) 18.03 hrs. [English] The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven SHRI PRAKASH KOKO of the Clock on the Thursday, August 16, BRAHMBHAIT: I beg to move for leave to 1990/Sravana 25, 1912 (Saka)
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